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Speaker 4: Fandel Sportsbook. Taylor said to me, and he said to Mikeya,

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Speaker 1: Pete Thamil, welcome to my world.

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Speaker 4: I had this story seventy two hours before you did.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're talking about North Carolina and the fact

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Speaker 1: If it's important to Taylor, it's important to me.

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Speaker 4: And so I flew right to Chapel Hill to try

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Speaker 4: to Youubert Davis and who's going to replace him as

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Speaker 4: the next head coach of the North Carolina tar Heels.

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Speaker 1: But the Tea and Taylor it stands for Theamil. How

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Speaker 5: I would say this for Taylor. I will mock him.

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Speaker 5: I will make fun of him at every turn when

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Speaker 3: He absolutely crushed this one. He had this.

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Speaker 5: He had this three days ago. Pete Damil's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no, no, no, no no. Taylor broke

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Speaker 1: Ye're just confirming it, right he did, yep.

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Speaker 6: So I kind of proved it with the Bill Belichick hiring.

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Speaker 6: When Bill Belichick came to Carolina and Adam Schefter was

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Speaker 6: Schefter that inc is.

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Speaker 3: Is long dry, right.

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Speaker 6: Things don't happen in Chapel Hill without Taylor finding out.

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Speaker 1: Put it on the pall?

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Speaker 4: Do they Does anything happen in Chapel Hill without Taylor

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Speaker 4: finding app Why am I here and you're not?

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Speaker 5: I mean, how come Stu's flight was delayed and we

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: I mean, Jesus, I mean, how come your boots aren't

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Speaker 4: on the ground because you don't need boots on the ground.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's boots? Are your boots here in Chapel Hill? Right?

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Speaker 3: Correct?

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Speaker 6: I'm working the phones right now trying to figure out

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Speaker 4: Yes, you didn't really report it that you speculated that

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Speaker 4: Youbert Davis was going to be fired.

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Speaker 1: You need to report it next time.

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Speaker 4: If you're that confident, you need to scoop them all

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Speaker 4: in our business.

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Speaker 1: Just take a shot a flyer, It's okay. So I knew.

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Speaker 6: I knew for certain Carolina was moving on from Hubert Davis.

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Speaker 6: I just didn't know what the language was going to

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Speaker 6: Right Hubert Davis, there was some pushback there.

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Speaker 4: He didn't want to resign. He still thinks he should

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Speaker 4: be the head coach at North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: The language was fuck you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: But there's also some reports that when Hubert Davis took

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Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, Hubert.

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Speaker 6: Davis, you didn't really want to take This is not

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Speaker 3: To do today. I don't want to bash you.

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Speaker 4: Wait, I just want to be clear the year because

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Speaker 4: Anyone who knows anything about this program knows it's a

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Speaker 1: He wants to continue coaching.

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Speaker 4: He thinks he should be the head coach at North Carolina.

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Speaker 4: I'm not certain if Hubert Davis will get a job

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Speaker 1: I'm not certain, but Hubert Davis told Carolina.

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Speaker 4: I don't want your fucking celebration. I want your job

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Speaker 4: at Carolina said no, you're fired.

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Speaker 1: And that's how it went down. How do I know?

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Speaker 1: Boots on the ground.

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Speaker 5: The takes just flow into you from the streets.

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Speaker 4: I go, I stand, what's the main street here, Taylor,

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Speaker 4: Franklin Street. Yeah, I go out to that street, Franklin Street.

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Speaker 4: I just stand there in the middle with my boots

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Speaker 3: That's what you see Belichick this morning.

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he came to me on Franklin Street. He put

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Speaker 6: Oh Jesus, give him a boot out of town.

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Speaker 4: He's the longest tenured coach in North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: I love the idea of you across the quad going

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Speaker 3: Willie willieby.

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Speaker 4: I'm also laughing because Taylor, Mikey, we've been doing this

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Speaker 1: He leapt into news gathering.

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Speaker 4: Mode the second Hubert Davis was let go by North Carolina,

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Speaker 4: and we have a beat reporter coming on.

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Speaker 1: We are going to old school right now. A beat reporter.

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Speaker 3: That's what sports radio is all about.

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Speaker 4: You're right, you're right, right, but you're listen. You're going

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Speaker 4: to an expert. But you're the expert. And so what

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Speaker 4: I'm wondering here is you have your own career to

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Speaker 4: think about here. Okay, you're the guy who reported this

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Speaker 4: seventy two hours before Famil did.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he was late to the party, right, So.

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Speaker 4: The only people, the only person that people should be

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 4: Like the guy we're having on here, he should be

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: So this is where there's the Stu gots a strong

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Speaker 6: in me. My confidence comes from Inside Carolina's confidence. Oh okay, God,

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Speaker 6: And that's why we got Greg Barnes because anything that

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Speaker 3: From Greg Barnes and Inside Carolina.

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Speaker 4: So he got it before Pete thatmilk, but he didn't

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Speaker 4: report it as certain right, with certainty.

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Speaker 1: He just said he was speculating. Correct.

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Speaker 6: They inside Carolina all weekend was reporting that a change

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you need to next time, okay, when you

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Speaker 4: become the Carolina Insider, next time, you have something from Barnes, okay,

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Speaker 4: that you don't have, because I'm your boss and you

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Speaker 4: have no integrity. And the reason you don't is because

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Speaker 4: I am your boss and I'm your mentor. Okay, And

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, mentor of sorts, And so what you need

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Speaker 5: You got thirty mentors and he doesn't make the list.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, nor is he. It's unbelievable. It's

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Speaker 3: I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: Who is your mentor?

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Speaker 3: Is it Barnes my top two mentor? My top mentor?

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Speaker 6: I would say Dominique Fox work just because it's so

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Speaker 6: damn cool.

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Speaker 7: Just because he's cool.

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Speaker 1: What kind of advice has he given you other than

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Speaker 1: he's cool?

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Speaker 3: Just jackets his style.

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Speaker 1: That's a mentor right there. Who's number two?

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Speaker 3: Maybe BOUMANI real don't. I don't think Bomani knows that, though.

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Speaker 1: He does so, like, do you talk to him ever

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Speaker 3: No, how was he meant to you? Of sorts? Of sorts?

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Speaker 1: Right? So it's not me, it's not it's not like.

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Speaker 1: So this is all I'm.

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Speaker 4: Next time you feel good enough about that news, you

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Speaker 4: Israel goody airs, And trust me what I tell you,

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Speaker 4: getting behind you, because if Israel says this is valid,

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Speaker 4: this is good. I believe in Taylor's sources, then everyone's

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Speaker 1: Okay, if I back you up, no one's gonna believe you.

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Speaker 4: The beat reporter who feeds Taylor all is Carolina information,

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Speaker 4: Greg Barnes.

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Speaker 6: Greg, on the topic of Bill Belichick, You're looking at

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Speaker 7: And if they want North Carolina basketball.

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Speaker 9: To continue to be an elite program, that means you

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Speaker 9: And then part of that, of course, is that buyout

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Speaker 5: Greg, how much did his coaching tenure sort of sully

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Speaker 7: Him, and he did not.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have to play along, right.

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Speaker 7: Sure, yes he does not.

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Speaker 7: I don't think that's going to be the case now.

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Speaker 4: So it's interesting because Carolina it's it's it's a family.

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Speaker 1: They usually hire from within.

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Speaker 4: Youbert Davis played at North Carolina and Ubert Davis. I

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Speaker 4: Right, Okay, Yeah, the standards very high, and he's not

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Speaker 9: And at this point in time, when you've got so

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Speaker 4: Of the names you've heard, what's the name that gets

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Speaker 7: Right now.

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Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you turn over every stone if you're in

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Speaker 7: You're it's the southern gentleman charm.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: Baby steps, baby steps.

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Speaker 6: You're right, Greg, you mentioned that Billy Donovan wouldn't be

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Speaker 9: nobody in the UNC coaching tree right now that.

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Speaker 1: Ads that right and some Southern charm that's what they need.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Greg, how does Bill self being unsure if he'll

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Speaker 6: return to Kansas affect Carolina search?

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Speaker 9: I think that is a massive elephant in the room

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Speaker 9: because it's one thing if you're the only blue blood

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Speaker 9: searching for a coach, but once you add another one

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Speaker 9: like Kansas and every all of a sudden, everybody's kind

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Speaker 9: of competing for the same positions, which means that the

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Speaker 9: bidding process is elevated. There's a lot of other dynamics

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Speaker 9: to go into play. So one of the advantages of

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Speaker 9: North Carolina has at this moment is that they have

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Speaker 9: an op open coaching job.

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Speaker 1: Kansas does not.

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Speaker 7: Yes, but that's gonna change, I would imagine very soon.

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Speaker 1: Right wow.

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Speaker 4: I mean these jobs usually they never become available. And

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Speaker 4: to have Carolina and Kansas of it. Roy Williams went

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Speaker 4: to Kansas so we could wait for the Carolina job.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is crazy.

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Speaker 7: And Dean Smith, you have from Kansas.

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Speaker 4: I know what a time in college sports, Indiana dominates football.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 4: If I hear anything, I'm gonna walk around. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: talk to some people see if I can get to

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Speaker 4: the bottom of this.

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Speaker 1: If I do, I will uh.

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Speaker 4: I will shoot you at text and let you know,

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Speaker 4: okay before anyone else does.

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Speaker 7: You can't cuss and chapl will just have.

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Speaker 1: Five times during this interview. Thank you buddy.

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Speaker 7: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 1: All right,