1 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: The autumn wind. Now sometimes it's a trade win, though 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: not enough to blow DeVante Adams out of Las Vegas 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: just yet. We'll tell you the latest on the future 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: of the Raiders. Star receiver Drod Mayo has been adamant 5 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: that Jacoby Rissett remains the Patriots starting quarterback, save to 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: say at this point, Boston Sports Radio might have some 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: other ideas. We will break down when the number three pick, 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: Drake may could be ready to roll and Sunday in 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: London and on NFL Network, the old Jets quarterback beats 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: the new Jets quarterback who happens to be thirteen years older. 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: What are the keys to this? Tottenham tilt? Baldy and 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: bark Gross have some bangers for you. We'll bring the 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: Max Welcome inside with the insiders alongside Ian Rappaport, Judy 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: Matista and Mike Garrafolo. I am Tom Pelisero. Ian's clapping 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: just because it's a Pavlovian response to hearing our theme music, 16 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: but also because we are just hours away from Week 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: five in the NFL officially kicking off. You can see 18 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: a little bit different design right there in the end zone. 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: The falcon's going with the old school look. Not just 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: on the field with those you know the diamond pattern 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: they're spelling out Atlanta, but also they are wearing their 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: throwbacks tonight. If you love those red helmets, and I 23 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: certainly do, visions of Dion sanders Hi stepping down the field, 24 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna love this game tonight on Prime Video. Our 25 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: top story, though today, remains in Las Vegas, where no 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: clarity yet on what the future holds for DeVante Adams. 27 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: Ianuad a story on NFL dot com earlier today, I 28 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: saved the floor to you. What is the latest that 29 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: we know? 30 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: Much earlier today. 31 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: I believe that posting time was about five thirty five AM, 32 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: which was about two thirty five. 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: Las Vegas timely. 34 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: Here's where we are on DeVante Adams. My understanding, according 35 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: to sources informed of his thinking, is that he wants 36 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: to play for the Jets. He wants to play with 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 3: his old friend Aaron Rodgers, who left in Green Bay 38 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: when it was on again off again, chose a new 39 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: home and now wants to go back with Rogers again. 40 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: But that is not the end of the story. 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: My understanding, talking to several sources, is this is not 42 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: like when Aaron Rodgers told the Packers, I want to 43 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: go to the Jets, and that's all the only place 44 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 3: I want to go, and I'm probably going to retire if. 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: I don't get that. 46 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: This is not that DeVante Adams is open to other teams, 47 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 3: and there are several other teams that are expected to 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: be interested. This is not something where he's saying trade 49 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 3: me here or else. There is, of course a possibility 50 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: if the Raiders don't get what they want, which would 51 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: be a second round pick up potentially more, that they 52 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: could keep him. He has been instructed that when his 53 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: hamstring is healthy, he is going to play. In other words, 54 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: if this trade takes a little longer than expected, if 55 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: there is a trade at all, and he is expected 56 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 3: to play for the Raiders, this is a fascinating situation. 57 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: Certainly seems like the Jets right now are the best possibility. 58 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: They are one of the teams that have spoken to 59 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 3: the Raiders and called the Raiders over the course last 60 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: several months, trying to see if DeVante Adams is available. 61 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: And the other thing I should mention here the Raiders 62 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: are going to do what's best for them. 63 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: If it coincides, that's great, but they're going to do 64 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: what's best for them as far as the trade goes. 65 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. Five point thirty three am. 66 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 4: You tweeted that out this morning, which I assume you 67 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 4: did and not auto tweeted, But so that was impressive. 68 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 4: I woke up at six thirty and it was like, no, 69 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 4: I did, oh forty something minutes ago it was posted, 70 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: so very impressive. 71 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 5: Ian. 72 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and yeah, I agree with that last part that 73 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 4: you said that the Raiders are going to do what 74 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 4: is going to be best for them, and they're honoring 75 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 4: the trade request in that they are now trying to 76 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 4: find the best possible landing spot for him. But it's 77 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: not like he's driving the train here. 78 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: He's got a little bit of leverage. 79 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 4: And we've got a couple of weeks before the trading deadline, 80 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 4: which gives some time for the Raiders to find the 81 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 4: best suitor. And we'll see if something happens in a 82 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 4: game this weekend and all of a sudden makes it 83 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 4: more urgent for some of the teams. 84 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: Involved, like the Chief losing Rushie Rice. 85 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: If that happens to a team that the Raiders would 86 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 4: be willing to trade to Vante Adams too, because certainly 87 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 4: the Chiefs don't fit that one right there. And there's 88 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 4: a financial component because that number goes up astronomically next year. 89 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 4: So he could rework his deal and give the next 90 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 4: team a new contract right now for the next couple 91 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 4: of years. Or he could sit there and say, well, 92 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna play it out this year with whoever I 93 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 4: go to and then we'll take it from there, which 94 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 4: then might make a team a little bit more reluctant 95 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 4: to give up that much more in the trade. So 96 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 4: there's a couple of factors at play here. Again, he 97 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 4: does have a little bit of leverage, but the Raiders 98 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 4: are not sitting here saying you're gonna hold his hostage 99 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 4: on this one. They are gonna say, Okay, this is 100 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 4: what you want. Maybe we can find something that works 101 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: best for us. 102 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 6: The Jets have to do what's best for the Jets 103 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 6: here too, and what's best for the Jets. I think 104 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 6: it's inarguable is getting DeVante fine light. They tried to 105 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 6: do it in the off season, it didn't happen. That's 106 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 6: when the Raiders were convinced they were going to keep him, 107 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 6: and now they have to make a move. Their offense 108 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 6: has sputtered in the first month of the season. This 109 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 6: is a move they can make. They can afford to 110 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 6: make it. They have the draft capital to give up if. 111 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: They choose to do it. 112 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 6: And what makes him so appealing, aside from his obvious 113 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 6: relationship with Aaron Rodgers and Aaron rodgers desire to play 114 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 6: with him again, is he's a plug and play guy. 115 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 6: Like he knows Nathaniel Hackett's system. He obviously knows what 116 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers likes his receivers to do. You get him, 117 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 6: you put him in, assuming that the hamstring is healthy 118 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 6: by the time he gets to New York. You put 119 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 6: him in and he takes off, and that would improve 120 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 6: the entire offensive operation, which frankly has sputtered in the 121 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 6: first four weeks. They are clearly not on the same page. 122 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 6: They're clearly not on Aaron Rodgers page. He would be 123 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 6: on Aaron Rodgers page from the minute he stepped into 124 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 6: the building. And that is something the Jets need. They 125 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 6: are in win now mode. We can't say that enough. 126 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 6: Win now mode. They have Aaron Rodgers this year and 127 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 6: probably next year, and that's it. They need to do 128 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 6: everything they can to put all the pieces around Aaron 129 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 6: Rodgers to try to win. 130 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 7: Now. 131 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: This was the spring and summer of wide receiver contract 132 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: extensions around the league that has now given way to 133 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: what appears to be a month or so of wide 134 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: receiver trade rumors and reports. It glet me one. That 135 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: was kind of spurred on, mostly by Tyreek Hill himself 136 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: getting onto social media earlier this week and posting something 137 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 1: to the effect of I woke up to great trade news. 138 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: There were like thousands of comments on it. That's Tyreek 139 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: messing with everybody here. But he was asked the follow 140 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 1: up question today about the possibility, with the Dolphins offense 141 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: struggling with no to a tongue of I loo for 142 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: at least a few more weeks, would there be a 143 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: possibility you might want to go someplace else, maybe, oh 144 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 1: one of his former teams. 145 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 8: I'm just focused on right here and right now. We 146 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 8: got a beautiful team here, and I want to be 147 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 8: a part of it. You know, we got a great 148 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 8: situation here. My my family loves it. I enjoyed. The 149 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 8: weather's great, the fans are great. So we got a 150 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 8: beautiful situation here. 151 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 9: Man. 152 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 8: Obviously, you know, my my parents always taught me, you know, 153 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 8: control the controllables, and I only can control so much, 154 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. So with that being said, 155 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 8: we all know the NFL as a business. Whatever happens happens, 156 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. So moving forward, I would 157 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 8: love to be here. I love being here, you know. 158 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 8: I love the guys. I love my locker mate, Javon Holland. 159 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 8: He's he's a maniac. He's the he's the guy. You 160 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 8: know what I'm saying. He brings me nice snacks sometimes, 161 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 8: you know, so so. 162 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: The good snacks or what's keeping Tyreek Hill, who makes 163 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: millions and millions of dollars a year wanting to stay here. 164 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's slightly more nuanced than that, listen Ian. 165 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: This is a Dolphins team that has been in the 166 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: playoffs in the last couple of years. Here. They had 167 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: big designs of what they could accomplish. In twenty twenty four, 168 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: they extended of it to a tongue of I LOOA 169 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: extended to Mike mcdegel's contract. They adjusted Tyreek Hill's contract 170 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: to pay him at a fair level here for twenty 171 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: twenty four. In my mind, this would have to spiral 172 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: way way further than a couple of bumpy days with 173 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback before they would even consider doing anything 174 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: of the level of traded away Tyreek Hill. A lot 175 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: of things are possible. We see that year after year, 176 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: but certainly doesn't seem like this is anything that's on 177 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: the front burner in Miami. 178 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: Well, two things that jump out to me. 179 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: First of all, Tyreek Hill kind of started this receiver 180 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 3: contract craze when DeVante Adams got his new deal with 181 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 3: the Raiders and it was a huge deal, but the 182 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: number on the back end was really really high, which 183 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: we didn't really know at the time. He saw that number, 184 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: asked for a contract extension from the Chiefs him weren't 185 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 3: willing to go where he was going to go. He 186 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 3: got said to Miami, receiver contracts went crazy, and now 187 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 3: we're sort of back around to get no, Tyree Hill 188 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: is not getting traded. Let me just say that I 189 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: never say never in the NFL. I feel pretty comfortable 190 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 3: saying never ish on this one. 191 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: First, well, they just sign him to that new deal 192 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: you mentioned. They could trade him. 193 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 3: Anyone could trade anyone, but the cat pit would be astronomical. 194 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 3: The other thing is, yes, I know the dapfhits this year, 195 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: maybe not or not having the greatest season of all time. 196 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: I'm not sure it's going to turn around even when 197 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: Tua Tagovailoa comes back in the lineup, although I guess 198 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: anything is possible. They didn't sign Tyreek Hill for this year. 199 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 3: They signed him for this year and next year, and 200 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: the year after and the year after. It seems like 201 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: he's as good as he always was, even though he's 202 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: getting to thirty. I don't see this happening at all. 203 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: And i'd blame Jason McIntyre, who used to call the 204 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: Big Lead, for starting this rumor. But at least Tyreek 205 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 3: Kill commented on and so that's something well. 206 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: And Tyreek again, who loves to have fun on social 207 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: media and send everybody into a frenzy. I definitely as 208 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: another factor in why there was at least some level 209 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: of believability to a rumor like that, is the fact 210 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: that Tyreek's old team, the Chiefs, suffered a significant loss 211 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: to their team last week, the one that we still 212 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: do not have a clear timetable on where she Rice 213 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: officially in the past few minutes, was placed on injured 214 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: reserve by the Chiefs. That means that he misses at 215 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: minimum four games. Andy Reid, though earlier today, said that 216 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: they're still waiting for Swelling to go down to get 217 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: additional tests. If this were just a straight up ACL tear, 218 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: they would know that by now there's a ray of hope, 219 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: maybe even a slim one, but a ray nonetheless, that 220 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: perhaps that the possibility Rashid could get back this season, 221 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: which would obviously be big for the Chiefs. They already 222 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: lost Hollywood Brown as well. He's out until at least 223 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Travis Kelsey hasn't really gotten going, and that's 224 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: reflected in the numbers of Patrick Mahomes, who you look 225 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: through in twenty twenty four. So far, He's played a 226 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: high level of passes right now, but passing yards per 227 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: game a career low. So is his passing touchdown to 228 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: interception ratio six to five. You don't normally expect that 229 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: from Mahomes. Also the worst passer rating so far in 230 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: his career Mike, which brings us to the question, Okay, 231 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: it's not going to be Tyreek Hill are in the unforeseen, 232 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: but what are the Chiefs do at receiver and how 233 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: does this offense as a whole do something that it 234 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: really took it till the playoffs last year to do, 235 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: which is get moving like we expect the Patrick Mahome's 236 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: offense too. Yeah. 237 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 4: Well, first thing, I'm not going to doubt the Chiefs 238 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: because I did that when they traded Tyreek Hill and 239 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 4: America's game. Took that clip of me on the air 240 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 4: and put it there saying, oh boy, the Chiefs got 241 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 4: worse today by trading That was hyrate. I'm not going 242 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 4: to sit here. Yeah, give us another one. 243 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: I give them. Come on, it's over. 244 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 4: NFL films, NFL Films producer coming through footage right now, 245 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 4: keep moving. 246 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: You got nothing here. I ain't gonna give it to you. 247 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 4: So yeah, they'll they'll they'll find a way, and Andy 248 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 4: Reid will find a way. An offensive coordinator Matt Naggy's 249 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 4: been a big part of this as well. 250 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: They'll find a way to get more product. 251 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 4: I also feel like there is going to be a 252 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 4: move coming at some point, right like, at some points 253 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: the Chiefs are going to do something. Uh you know 254 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 4: the Devonte Adams thing. They were ruled out immediately again 255 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 4: because of that trade potential in the division, But there 256 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 4: are other receivers that are potentially going to be better 257 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 4: in receivers, are potentially going to be on the trading 258 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 4: block as we get close to that early November trading 259 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 4: deadline date, and the fact that the Chiefs have gotten 260 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 4: off to such a good start that lowers the urgency 261 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 4: a little bit and gives them a chance to go 262 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 4: through this and see, Okay, which one of these guys 263 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 4: are gonna emerge? Now, look the Justin Watsons of the 264 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 4: world and these other guys that are on their roster. 265 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: These are the guys that we've been talking about even 266 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 4: into last year as well. They could emerge and potentially 267 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: be like our number two. Rashi Rice was really the 268 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 4: only one he ever heard mentioned as a possible number 269 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: one for this team. So with these guys here, yes, 270 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 4: they're gonna have to step up and they're gonna have 271 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 4: to look for production there. But you're still not gonna 272 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: have that number one overall type guy the way that 273 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 4: they were feeding Rashi Rice to the first couple of 274 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 4: weeks of the season. But they also do Travis kelce Ian, 275 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 4: you had a good report about I still got some 276 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 4: left in the tank. They're still confident in them, and 277 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 4: we started to see it this past. 278 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: Week for anybody sitting here saying, well, why aren't they 279 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: already trading for a wide receiver. Why haven't the Chiefs 280 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: already made a move? They have a clear need here. 281 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: A big part of that is we're four games into 282 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: a seventeen game season. There's one winless team. That's the Jagua, 283 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: whose owner said before the season they got the best 284 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: group of coaches and players that they've ever had. They 285 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: still anticipate winning. In other words, four games, generally speaking, 286 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: is not enough for people to punt on a season. 287 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: You can only trade for players who are available. DeVante 288 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: Adams is a unique situation, the guy who they're probably 289 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: looking at this as a possibility before the trade deadline. 290 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: At some point it gets pushed forward based upon other factors. 291 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: Biggest takeaway though from this segment obviously wow from Mike 292 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: Garafalo saying he believes the Chiefs dynasty is now on 293 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: thin ice. Let's go to New England right now, where 294 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: girod Mayo has said repeatedly and did it again this week, 295 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: that Jacoby Brissett is the starting quarterback for the Patriots. 296 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: There's obviously been questions based upon how the season has 297 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: gone so far for New England, a three game losing 298 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: streak and offense that has sputtered. But at what point 299 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: it's appropriate to play number three overall? Pick Drake may 300 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: Go be your thoughts on this situation. 301 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 10: I don't think it's it's time for the pity party, 302 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 10: you know what I mean. I don't think we have 303 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 10: time for a pitty party. You know. So, you know, 304 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 10: we kind of understand like going forward. You know, this 305 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 10: second quarter, you know, Mayo kind of emphasized that, you know, 306 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 10: our offse coordinator, deecordinator, special teams coach kind of emphasized 307 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 10: that in our respectable rooms about you know, this second 308 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 10: quarter of our season, you know, and the first quarter 309 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 10: was what the first quarter was. You know, it's it's 310 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 10: you know, it's no escaping it. But you get a 311 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 10: chance to make a new second quarter, you know, and 312 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 10: started new momentum and start you know, a new junction 313 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 10: of the season, and a lot of guys, and I 314 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 10: know a lot everybody is excited about that opportunity, you know, 315 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 10: and it starts today on Practicevielle. 316 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: The Patriots dilemma, I think it was encapsulate today, Judy, 317 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: where not only are they without David Andrews is out 318 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: for the season. Their backup center was limited. Alex van Pelt, 319 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, said a underrafted rookie on the practice 320 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: squad was taking the first team reps at center. There's 321 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: a variety of different factors in why they're taking a 322 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: cautious and conservative approach in terms of when to put 323 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: Drake May on the field. The situation on the offensive 324 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: line certainly remains a piece of the puzzle. 325 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like we need a reality check for 326 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 6: the New England Patriots. This is exactly what we thought 327 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 6: the New England Patriots were going to look like when 328 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,479 Speaker 6: we saw them in training camp and in the preseason. 329 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 6: It's a rebuilding team. How many times did we say 330 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 6: that in the offseason? It is a rebuilding team. The 331 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 6: offensive line is not good. They don't have good skill 332 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 6: position players. The receivers can't get separation. You don't want 333 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 6: to put a rookie quarterback behind that offensive line because 334 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 6: if his decision making is just a tick slow, he's 335 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 6: going to get hammered back there. Jacoby Brissett is a veteran. 336 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 6: He's already been sacked fifteen times in four games, and 337 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 6: by one met trick has taken forty hits four zero 338 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 6: hits in four games. You don't want to put a 339 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 6: rookie who may be a little bit slower behind there 340 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 6: to say nothing. Fact that there's nothing around him that 341 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 6: would help Drake May develop and help elevate his game. 342 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 6: Ramandre Stephenson, who was supposed to be a bedrock of 343 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 6: this offense, he may sit down this week because he's 344 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 6: fumbled four times this season. So there's a myriad of 345 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 6: problems at the Patriots, none of which were unexpected. That 346 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 6: game against the Bengals that opened the season, that was 347 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 6: the aberration. What we have seen the last three weeks. 348 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 6: This is what we always expected the Patriots to look like. 349 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: The counterpoint to this, Judy, is yes, you're right on 350 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: basically everything you just said. And still every week the 351 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: Patriots and their fans and everyone who follows has to 352 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: watch and go. Man, if Drake May was out there, 353 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: wouldn't this all be better. It's like a test of wills. Patriots, 354 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: I would say, are doing exactly what they came into 355 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: the season to do. They are patient, they're taking a 356 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: deep breath, They're watching Drake May develop as they did 357 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: in training camp. 358 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: In practice. 359 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: He's getting thirty percent of the reps, which is a 360 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: lot for a backup quarterback. It's all happening as they 361 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 3: drew out, as they wanted. They wanted to take their time, 362 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: they wanted to learn, they wanted to keep him out 363 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: of harm's way, they didn't want to stunt his growth. 364 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 2: All of the right things, and yet. 365 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: Every single week Jeron Mayo gets asked by the media, 366 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: and every single week inside the building, they're still having 367 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: the same conversation we are right now, which is, well, yeah, 368 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: but like, wouldn't it be a little better with Drake 369 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 3: may out there? And the answer is it may be. 370 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: But this is the line that Patriots now have to walk. 371 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 3: Is it better to have him out there and risk 372 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: some sort of injury or risk stunting his grow, or 373 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: would it be better just to take all the slings 374 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 3: and arrows and just let him sit. Every single week, 375 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: this is going to be a battle inside the Patriots 376 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 3: building of what to do. 377 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 4: And he is learning. I mean, he's staying engaged on 378 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 4: the sideline. He does a great job with the x's 379 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 4: and o's. We saw it on display with the Giants' 380 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 4: off season hard knocks. 381 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: When you saw their pre draft. 382 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 4: Meeting with him in the way that he was kind 383 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 4: of able to digest the information and spit it back. 384 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 4: So he's getting that part of his development now, and 385 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 4: he's getting these little spurts of action preseason into that 386 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 4: late game action against the Jets, which the only thing, 387 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 4: like the late game drive against. 388 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: It, he could have completed that with a touchdown. 389 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 4: The Patriots is one to get out of there with 390 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 4: no injuries, so they didn't even call timeouts. 391 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: I'm on the satellite, say call timeout, call timeout. Let 392 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: them get in the end zone. Let him give a 393 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: reason to feel good. I feel like he could have 394 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: gotten in the end zone with that drive. 395 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: So that's the only thing I would question right now 396 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 4: with the Patriots and how they've handled Drake May to 397 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 4: this point. 398 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: But I like the slow rollout. 399 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 4: I like the fact that he has that good part 400 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 4: of the preseason to build on. He had some success 401 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 4: against the Jets as well. It's like, get these little 402 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 4: spurts of good along the way while you're also developing 403 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 4: watching the film and in meetings during the week. 404 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: Patriots hosts the Dolphins on Sunday, and which kind of 405 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: feels like an early season elimination game in the AFC East. 406 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: The Colts set to head down to Jacksonville on Sunday. 407 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: Another team in Jacksonville that really needs a win, and 408 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: they might face a shorthanded Colts team. Anthony Richardson, who 409 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: took a couple of hard hits last week and when 410 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: ended up being a win over the Steelers, d Lee 411 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: with a couple of different muscle strains and abdominal strain 412 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,239 Speaker 1: and oblique strain, was on the practice field on a 413 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: limited basis today. He said on Wednesday that he was 414 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: feeling sore certainly, though nobody ruling him out yet for Sunday. 415 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: Same goes for running back Jonathan Taylor, who told reporters 416 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: he is dealing with an ankle sprain. Seems like this 417 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: one perhaps might be more pessimistic for his possibility of 418 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: playing this week. We also know Jonathan Taylor, a very, 419 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: very tough guy, would like to be on the field 420 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: if he's able to pull it off. Meanwhile, Giants wide 421 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: receiver Malik Neighbors not practicing again today, has not practiced 422 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: in a week since suffering a concussion last Thursday night. 423 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: Based upon the five steps that you have to pass, 424 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: including being cleared by an independent neurology. Certainly seems like 425 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: the deck is stacked against Milak neighbors being out there 426 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: this week. We know that Aaron Rodgers will be out 427 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: there on Sunday this fight that me that remains swollen 428 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: had him limited on the injury board. He'll be going 429 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: up against a former j Sam Donald, who's playing well 430 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: very Unjets Sam Darnold like we take it to London, 431 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: not literally, but we'll talk about that game next. 432 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 4: On the inside, we've reached the London portion of the program. 433 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: Three straight Sunday morning games across the Pond. 434 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 4: I think I'm contractually obligated to use that phrase across 435 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 4: the Pond. Vikings and Jets nine point thirty am Eastern 436 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 4: on NFL Network and NFL Plus. But tune in earlier 437 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 4: because we've got game day kickoff. We'll be a part 438 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 4: of that The Insiders. We'll get you ready and set 439 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 4: for that game, as will Jamie Ernol, who's already over 440 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 4: there across the Pond. 441 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 11: First time being invited on The Insiders. I guess I 442 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 11: had to come all the way to London to qualify 443 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 11: to be on your show. So I will try to 444 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 11: bring my a game ahead of Jets Vikings. I can't 445 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 11: think of two teams that are emotionally in two very 446 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 11: different places coming into Week five. Vikings flying high, undefeated, 447 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 11: bait the Packers on the road last weekend. Now Justin 448 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 11: Jefferson can continue his prime Staff is the best wide 449 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 11: receiver in the game. Going up against one of the 450 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 11: best young cornerbacks in Sauce Gardner this weekend. Big test 451 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 11: for Sauce, Huge test for this Viking offense that continues 452 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 11: to perform well and have Sam Darnold rise to the occasion. 453 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 11: Speaking of quarterbacks, the last time we saw Aaron Rodgers 454 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 11: leave the field at MetLife, I get it the towel 455 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 11: was over his head, but it's about how he was 456 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 11: looking hobbled coming off the field. The Broncos defense got 457 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 11: after Rogers. He has tried his best to correct some 458 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 11: of that timing issue that he has with his wide receivers. 459 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 11: For the Jets offense, these things are going to have 460 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 11: to be worked out. They're just going to have to 461 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 11: do it in London this weekend. Now, when I talked 462 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 11: with Jets players on Monday after that Broncos loss, the 463 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 11: big thing for me was, Hey, let's cover what happened. 464 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 11: Get to you guys yesterday. These players would not answer 465 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 11: my questions. They blamed the fact that they didn't see 466 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 11: the tape yet. But I thought that was very telling 467 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 11: that they want to leave that game as a blip 468 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 11: on their radar. 469 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 4: Jamie Earl coming right at us for not having her 470 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: on the show. I mean, not a revolution war. Have 471 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 4: shots been fired while they weren't fired for me? 472 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 5: Yes? 473 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: Never mind, you get the points whatever. 474 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 4: Ryan Baldinger's here, Mark Ross is here. He does not 475 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 4: approve by metaphor Baldy. 476 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: I want to start with you on this matchup. 477 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: It's easy to just talk Sam Darnold, but this Vikings 478 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 4: start to the season is about both sides of the football. 479 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 4: Let's talk about the success offensively and defensively for Minnesota. 480 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 5: So the operative word right there, Mark Mike, is start. 481 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 5: They have started fast. They have outscored their opponents in 482 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 5: these four games right now, sixty nine to seventeen, scoring 483 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 5: at least two touchdowns in the first half of each game. 484 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 5: And so what that has done, including last week up 485 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 5: in Green Bay when they jump out to a twenty 486 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,239 Speaker 5: eight to nothing league and so a lot of that 487 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 5: is game planning by Kevin O'Connell. It's the play of 488 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 5: the offense line off five starters have started all four games. 489 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 5: Aaron Jones has been terrific. The receivers are awesome. They 490 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 5: use Justin Jefferson as their a guy. They'll use them 491 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 5: as a decoy to fly, you know, to fly it 492 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 5: to nailor or anybody else. And so what that does 493 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 5: to Brian Flores and the defense is they have been 494 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 5: playing with the lead. In fact, the opposition in the 495 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 5: four games right now have ninety six more passes than 496 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 5: they have runs. And so what does that do? That 497 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 5: leads to They lead the league in interceptions, they lead 498 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 5: the league in sacks right now. I mean when you're 499 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 5: dropping back and throwing to try to catch up the 500 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 5: way the opposition has all of a sudden, it plays 501 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 5: right in Brian Flores's hands. They play that three deep coverage, 502 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 5: They give you a myriad of looks, they give you 503 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 5: a bunch of junk at the line of scrimmage. You're 504 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 5: trying to figure out who's coming, he's not coming. I mean, 505 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 5: is this Brian Flores's bag right here? Playing with the lead. 506 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 5: And so that's what the Jets are facing here. Mark 507 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 5: is that this is a team that has played from 508 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 5: in front all season long, and it's helped. I think, 509 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 5: you know, obviously the execution is the execution offense, but 510 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 5: it's really helped the complementary style of defense that they're 511 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 5: playing right now. 512 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 4: When fans complain, you know, we're behind, why are we 513 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 4: still running the football? Because you can't throw it every 514 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 4: down in this league. Eventually, when you do that, the 515 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 4: dam is going to break. And that's what Brian Flores 516 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 4: and the Vikings have been able to do. Great analysis there, 517 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 4: Baldy speaking of the damn the damn Jets. That was 518 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 4: from Big Daddy, although he had another word in front 519 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 4: of down there, Mark the Jets had a Now listen, 520 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 4: Robert Sala if you're watching this. 521 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm not playing into it. 522 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: But there was an issue with false starts and the 523 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 4: cadence and all this. They got to get that right. 524 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 4: Is it a detriment to try to do that, to 525 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 4: get that part of your game right when you're flying 526 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 4: overseas and there's all other logistical stuff going on. 527 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 12: Well, they got to get a lot of stuff right, Mike, 528 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 12: you know, and number one, everyone in the organization has 529 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 12: to get on the same page. And namely the head 530 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 12: coach and the quarterback and the offensive coordinator the star receiver. 531 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 12: You can't have success if you've got the head coach 532 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 12: after a game taking shots and the quarterback coming back 533 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 12: right away, and then during the week your star receiver's 534 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 12: talking about the scheme. 535 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: And the offensive coordinator. That's number one. 536 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 12: They've got to get on the same page at all, 537 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 12: speak the same language for better or for worse. Behind 538 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 12: the scenes it might be different, but out in public 539 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 12: they've got to get on the same page. 540 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: And then number two, I think all of. 541 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 12: Those issues are manifesting themselves on the fields. Baldy was 542 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 12: at that game the other day, and correctly it's not wrong, Baldy, 543 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 12: but you called. 544 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: It a slop fest. 545 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 12: I believe because of all those thirteen penalties, as you mentioned, 546 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 12: five fall star penalties, two penalties consecutive plays. You can't 547 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 12: win and succeed like that. Now you get to the 548 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 12: actual players, and with Denver, they just blitzed. They just 549 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 12: blitzed like crazy Aaron Rodgers, and they had no answers 550 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 12: for it. The offensive line is not good. 551 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. 552 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 12: Is not that Aaron Rodgers of old that can get 553 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 12: out of the way the playmakers weren't stepping up. So 554 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 12: I think this is a bad, bad deal here to 555 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 12: go up against that Brian Flores d as Baldy mentioned, 556 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 12: that's gonna blitz even more and get after Aaron Rodgers. 557 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 12: So when you talk about the all field, big picture 558 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 12: on the field, mistakes the play on the field, there's 559 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 12: a lot of questions to be answered here for the 560 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 12: Jets and going across the pond, Mike, as you'd like 561 00:25:59,080 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 12: to say. 562 00:25:59,320 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: I don't like that. 563 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 12: I'm not sure if that'll happen. 564 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 4: It's a big it's a big pond. I think I 565 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 4: have that same exact shirt mark. I'm glad I didn't 566 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 4: wear it today, not because it would be awkward, but 567 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 4: because I don't want to go toe to toe with 568 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: you when it comes to fashion and who. 569 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: We did that earlier this year and you won. Mark Cross. 570 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 4: Brian Vaullinger, love you guys, Thank you very much, appreciate it. 571 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 4: It is Thursday, Thursday Night Football. We are going to Atlanta, 572 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 4: UH to break this one down between the Falcons and 573 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 4: the Bucks with Cameron Wolf. 574 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: He is live Falcons and Bucks. 575 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 2: There's Atlanta. Is that a is that a falcon? Imagine 576 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 2: it's a falcon, right theoretically. 577 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 3: Usually the Atlantic scenics are like the Varsity or something 578 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: like that, which I love. 579 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: There's a lot of good Atlanta scenics. Uh, welcome back 580 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 2: to the Insiders. 581 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 3: Let's bring in my good friends Cameron Wolf and Brian Baldinger. 582 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 2: Cam, of course right there in Atlanta. 583 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 3: I got a lot of questions including where'd you go 584 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: to get barbecued? 585 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: You go, Fox Brothers. 586 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 3: That's a great place community Q also good, Well put 587 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 3: a pin in that for a second. 588 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: I mean answer that, But I. 589 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 3: Want to talk about Baker Mayfield first, been one of 590 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: the feel good stories of this year. Obviously got it 591 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 3: rolling for the Bucks. What have you learned about Baker 592 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 3: and what kind of job. 593 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: Has he done for this offense this season? 594 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 9: Well, yeah, and tight end Kate Iden told me this 595 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 9: week he's never been around anyone like Baker in his personality, 596 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 9: whether he's throwing the ball thirty feet into the stands 597 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 9: after a touchdown or yelling in the face of defenders. 598 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 9: He said, he gives us our identity, our energy, and 599 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 9: we feed off of that. And also, as you look 600 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 9: at this team, remember two years ago when Tom Brady retired. 601 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 9: Everyone thought it's the rebuilding team, they have to start over. Well, 602 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 9: Baker Mayfield has brought his own personality. He hasn't been 603 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 9: succumbed by the pressure of replacing Tom Brady, and the 604 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 9: results have been a Division title last year, a Pro 605 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 9: Bowl berth and this year he has been even better, 606 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 9: completing seventy percent of his passes. And the one thing 607 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 9: might Kevin said has been a big key in the 608 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 9: year two jump has been increased trust. He knows exactly 609 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 9: worse receivers, particularly Evans and Godwin, will be and trust 610 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 9: them no matter what. And his time to throw his 611 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 9: from snap to throwing is two point four to four seconds, 612 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 9: the fastest of his career, third fastest of any quarterback 613 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 9: in the league. And so he's getting that ball out 614 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 9: of his hands very quickly. And that's something that he's 615 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 9: gonna need today against the Falcons secondary that's gonna throw 616 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 9: a lot of disguises at him with Jesse Bates and 617 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 9: Justin Simmons on the back end. Another thing that Baker's 618 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 9: done that I don't think a lot of people give 619 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 9: him a lot of credit for is his dual threat ability. 620 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 9: Hodden said he's one of the best in the league 621 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 9: at extending plays. He bails us out as a pass 622 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 9: protection group when we don't get right. And so as 623 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 9: the Bucks try to go to four and one, they'll 624 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 9: have to do it without a couple of receivers and 625 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 9: Jalen man Millan and Trey Palmer. But they feel like Baker, 626 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 9: no matter what, we'll keep them right. And I had 627 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 9: steak last night ya at a house Guys. 628 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: Oh all right, well that's not bad. Could do worse 629 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: than that. 630 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 5: L like steak. 631 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: Bonney Cam talked about the fact that the Bucks kind 632 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 3: of skip by the rebuilding part of this right, like 633 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: they went from Brady Leaves to still good. And one 634 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 3: of the reasons for that is because the defense has 635 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: been kind of awesome. Todd Bowles's unit has got a 636 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 3: rolling as they always do, confusing people really bringing it. 637 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 3: And you're a big dude, I want to give you 638 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 3: the opportunity. Who's your favorite big dude on the Bucks defense? 639 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 5: Well, I mean Vidave is just pure Polynesian power. I 640 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 5: mean he was a force last week against the Eagles 641 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 5: and immovable object but also a guy that could push 642 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 5: the pocket. But you know, honestly Ian like just talking 643 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 5: to Todd Bowles this offseason. This is the first time 644 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 5: he's ever had coaching stability in his life and his 645 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 5: ability to blitz impression. Now he's going up against the 646 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 5: Falcons offense. Ian last week did not score an offensive touchdown. 647 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 5: I mean they scored on defense. They scored on special 648 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 5: teams last week. So Kirk Cousins and this Falcons offense 649 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 5: has got to get ready for probably as many different 650 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 5: types of pressures as you can possibly draw up. And 651 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 5: sometimes it's just a four man rush, but it's four 652 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 5: men to the weak side, and they're overloading, and they're 653 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 5: coming from different angles, and they're coming from the corner 654 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 5: and the slots in the safeties. And so once Todd 655 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 5: feels like he's got you, he's not gonna let up. 656 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 5: He will just keep coming out to you with the 657 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 5: barrage of pressures. And oh, by the way, those two 658 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 5: corners on the outside, now they will go up against 659 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 5: Drake London and you know the other receivers in Atlanta. 660 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 5: I'm talking about Jammel Dean and Zion McCollum. Both these 661 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 5: guys have had excellent seasons. They have defended the pass, 662 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 5: they can play man coverage and you need to be 663 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 5: able to do that with Todd's pressure packages that are 664 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 5: coming out every quarterback every week. Last week Jalen Hurts 665 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 5: and the Eagles really struggled against it. 666 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 3: This week Kirk Cousins, and look, he's at his moments 667 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: this season. I know it seems cam like he's been 668 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 3: kind of like trying to find things that work and 669 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 3: really trying to find his happy place in this Vocon's 670 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 3: office when he's got to have it at the end 671 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 3: of games he's done it. How is Cousins done kind 672 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 3: of finding his maybe comfort Jone with this Falcons offense. 673 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 9: Ian comforts a great word for Kuk Cousins because I 674 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 9: think a lot of people expected with all the free 675 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 9: agency that they were going to be this explosive offense 676 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 9: out the gate, and it hasn't quite clicked to that 677 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 9: level yet. You know, Bijon and Kyle Pitts and Drake 678 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 9: London haven't had those big plays yet. Their numbers are 679 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 9: actually very similar to what they were last year with 680 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 9: their offense. But you mentioned that the Leyden game, ability 681 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 9: of Kirk Cousins to be able to win against Philly 682 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 9: and against New Orleans are things that teammates points to 683 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 9: when I asked him about Kirk Cousins, Jesse Bates told me, Look, 684 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 9: Kirk's presence is something you can't quantify in stats. It's 685 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 9: like I watched him during the week and how he 686 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 9: pushes Kirk Kyle Pitts, how he pushes Drake London. I've 687 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 9: never seen a quarterback like that, Jesse Bates said, I've 688 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 9: never seen a leader like that. And he's like, the 689 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 9: rest is coming. Drake London said, Look, this is a 690 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 9: new guy tote in the pill for us, and so 691 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 9: the big explosion offense is coming now. It'll be a 692 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 9: tough challenge for them this week against Todd Bowles defense. 693 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 9: As Baldy was talking about, they bring a lot of 694 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 9: pressure and as we've watched Kirk Cousins, he doesn't seem 695 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 9: to have that mobility fully back yet from that torn achilles, 696 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 9: and so expect Bowles to try to test him off 697 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 9: the spot to see if he can move outside of 698 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 9: the huddle. But they are trying to have a stream 699 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 9: focus on getting Kyle Putz the ball. He's had eight 700 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 9: catches for one hundred and five yards in four games. 701 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 5: Not good enough. 702 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 9: Raheem Morris joked that stats are for losers, but keep 703 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 9: an eye on Kyle Pitts being a big focal point 704 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 9: today in the offense. 705 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 5: You know, Cam, one way to counter Todd Bowles blitz 706 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 5: is to be able to run and run effectively, and 707 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 5: that's what Atlanta wants to do. They have a clear 708 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 5: cut demarcation between Jon Robinson and Tyler Algier, but I 709 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 5: went inside depth study of the two backs, and you know, 710 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 5: Tyler Algier has He's got twenty seven carries this year, 711 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 5: not one negative carry. Bjohn's got twice the carries. He's 712 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 5: got six negative carries. Tyler Aljier sometimes I want he's 713 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 5: averaging two yards per carry more than Bijon is. Sometimes 714 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 5: I feel like Tyler Aljier is a better fit for 715 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 5: this offense because he's going to keep you on schedule. 716 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 5: He's going to get you the yards are there, and 717 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 5: he finishes his runs and he has real good contact balance, 718 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 5: and when I watch him, I feel like, maybe need 719 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 5: to get more carries to Tyler Aljeer. Here As the 720 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 5: season starts to move forward. 721 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: As the heads of the fantasy owners of Jon Robinson 722 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 3: collectively explode, hearing Baldi advocate for a carry share. 723 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: Baldy Cam thank you. Fyi. 724 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 3: Fox Brothers has an amazing brisket chili. If you get 725 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 3: some time, I recommend checking it out. Thanks guys. 726 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 5: Judy yep. 727 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 6: Well, the story of the week, of course, has been 728 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 6: Devonte Adams and his request to be traded out of 729 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 6: Las Vegas, and I suspect it's going to be the 730 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 6: story of every day until that trade gets done, if 731 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 6: it ever gets done. Why are so many teams at 732 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 6: least considering picking up the phone to talk to the Raiders. Well, 733 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 6: this is why this is DeVante Adams since twenty eighteen, 734 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 6: first in the league in reception, second in receiving yards, 735 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 6: first in receiving touchdowns. It's no wonder that somebody like 736 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers loves him so much wants to play with 737 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 6: him again. Let's bring back Baldy and Mark Ross. Mark, 738 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 6: I want to start with you. Let's put on our 739 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 6: front office thinking caps here. If you were sitting in 740 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 6: a front office right now and thinking about this, what 741 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 6: would you offer for DeVante Adams? And if you were 742 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 6: in the Raiders position, what would you want in exchange 743 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 6: for Dfonte Adams. 744 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 12: Well, Raiders already came out and said they're not giving 745 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 12: any hometown discounts or friendly discounts. They're going to the 746 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 12: highest bidders. So that's number one. You have to look 747 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 12: at forward as a team. And when DeVante got traded 748 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 12: to the Raiders, it was a one in a two. 749 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 5: And that was just two years ago. 750 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 12: So now, of course you're not going to get that much, 751 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 12: but you at least if you're a team on the 752 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 12: cusp of winning the Super Bowl. The Ravens or forty 753 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 12: nine ers, let's just say, I mean that one would 754 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 12: have to be in play. Certainly no lower than a two, 755 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 12: but definitely not that one and. 756 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: Two that you got before. 757 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 12: So I really like looking at this from DeVonta Adams 758 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 12: point of view and his agent, where I know he 759 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 12: wants to play with his buddy there Aaron Rodgers, and 760 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 12: when he got traded, he wanted to play with Derek Carr, 761 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 12: and those seem to be the two that are in play. 762 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 12: It just because he's so familiar with those guys. But 763 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 12: are those really the best situations for him? I mean, 764 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 12: we've already just talked about all the turmoil with the 765 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 12: Jets and what's going on there, and the Saints are 766 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 12: are they that close? 767 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 1: If I'm his agent. 768 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 12: I'm really advising him and say, well, maybe let's look 769 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 12: at the Ravens. And you know, the Ravens are a 770 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 12: little bit strapped for cap space, but they made it 771 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 12: happen a couple years ago to go get ro Kwan Smith. 772 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 12: So there's a precedent for the Ravens that, Okay, we 773 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 12: needed that defensive playmaker. 774 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 2: They went and got them. 775 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 12: Were here they are now we know what they can 776 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 12: do on the ground flashes in the past game you bring. 777 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: Someone like that in. 778 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 12: If I'm DeVonta Adams, like, you know what, let me 779 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 12: not go play, but my buddies, let me go play 780 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 12: with that potential Super Bowl champion there, Judy. 781 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 5: You know, I think when you look at this here, Mark, 782 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 5: I mean, everybody you know wants to put The New 783 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 5: York Post has Aaron, Rodgers and Davonte already together yesterday 784 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 5: and all that is taking place like he's going to 785 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 5: steal reps away from Garrett Wilson. Garrett needs to get 786 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 5: involved in his offense. He was uninvolved last week. I 787 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 5: know Sirtan was on him. Mike Williams is just starting 788 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 5: to come on. He had his best game as a 789 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 5: jet Like he's starting to run the whole route tree. 790 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 5: There's a place for his already, Conklin like if Davante comes, 791 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 5: I know there's a trust factor. You know, Aaron trust 792 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 5: Davonte probably more than any other player he's ever played with. 793 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 5: So there is that, and they need that trust because 794 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,959 Speaker 5: it didn't show up last week when they needed most 795 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 5: at the end of that game. He did lead the 796 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 5: league in touchdowns when he was with Derek Carr in 797 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 5: twenty twenty two. By the way, Pittsburgh tried to trade 798 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 5: for Brandon Ayuk. It didn't get done. They still need 799 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 5: a receiver opposite of picking. So I think those are 800 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 5: three teams that you could probably say that I'm just 801 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 5: playing backyard GM right here. You could, you know, kind 802 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 5: of put that together and say there's a need in 803 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 5: all three of those places and you could have success 804 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 5: in those places. 805 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 6: I feel like we're probably going to have this conversation 806 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 6: a lot in the next few days, next few weeks. 807 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 6: The trade deadline, if it goes that long, is not 808 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 6: until early November, so we'll be repeating ourselves a lot. 809 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 6: Probably don't go too far, Mark and Baldy because when 810 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 6: we return, we're going to talk about some other quarterbacks 811 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 6: that guy Josh Allen and CJ. Strout. They meet this 812 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 6: weekend in one of the best matchups of this weekend. 813 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 6: Looking forward to this one and looking forward to previewing 814 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 6: it when we return on The Insiders. 815 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: The records might not reflect it, but we got a 816 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 1: pretty intriguing matchup on Sunday in Santa Clara Cardinals forty 817 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: nine ers. It is an NFC West game between a 818 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: really banged up forty nine team and the Cardinals team 819 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: that's off to a one in three start, albeit with 820 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,919 Speaker 1: some flashes of brilliance from their young wide receiver among 821 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: other things. Welcome back to the Insiders. Tom Pillicero join 822 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: now by Omar Ruiz. While I walk by in the 823 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: hall yesterday, I said, hey, I'll see you on set tomorrow. 824 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: Instead he drove back to Arizona, but fitting that's where 825 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: he is for this segment. So Kyle Shanahan and Jonathan 826 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: Gannon Omar. We know that they've had some battles going 827 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: back to Gannon's days on the NFC side. Break down 828 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: the coaching aspect of this matchup. 829 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 7: For me, Yeah, you said intriguing, I said, interesting matchup. 830 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 7: This will be the fifth time that these two have 831 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 7: met since Jonathan Gannon has been a coordinator, and you 832 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 7: look at the forty nine ers production without Christian McCaffrey 833 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 7: and so many injuries like you mentioned, but they still 834 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 7: find ways to produce. And Jordan Mason at running back 835 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 7: leading the league and carries, leading the lead in rushes 836 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 7: ten yards or more, leading the league in yards after contact. 837 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 1: He's second overall. 838 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 7: And Jonathan Gannon was asked what about Kyle Shanahan's scheme. 839 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 7: What about Kyle Shanahan's play calling has allowed for different 840 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 7: running backs to thrive in that offense, and he said, 841 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 7: it's whenever you figure out how to slow down or 842 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 7: stop what the forty nine ers want to do offensively, 843 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 7: Kyle Shanahan immediately has the CounterPunch locked and loaded so 844 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 7: they can continue to attack relentlessly. You mentioned the Cardinals 845 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 7: one in three start. They're trying to find their footing 846 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 7: get another win here in the NFC West Race. They've 847 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 7: been blown out, frankly against the forty nine Ers the 848 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 7: last four times, an average score of thirty nine to seventeen. Really, 849 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 7: they're coming off the worst loss of this Jonathan Gannon, 850 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 7: Kyler Murray, Aaron Tom we talked all offseason so much 851 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 7: hope and optimism building on last year's second half of 852 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,439 Speaker 7: the season for the Cardinals, but they've said the entire 853 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 7: offseason has to translate into wins. They're looking to translate 854 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 7: all of that energy and they'll have to do so 855 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 7: coming back after that devastating loss against the Washington Commanders 856 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 7: on Sunday, and it'll be a tall task going to 857 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 7: a place that's been a house of horrors for them of. 858 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: Late Yessey West just all beat up in general. That 859 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,479 Speaker 1: goes for the Rams too. They are one in three 860 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 1: as they get set to face the two and two 861 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: Packers right across the street here at Sofi Stadium, where 862 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm told in my ear that Omar is coming back. 863 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 1: He's gonna be at that game on Sunday. Omar Jordan 864 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: Love certainly seemed like he got more comfortable with the 865 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: knee as that game went on last week against the Vikings. 866 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: Threw some picks but also through some touchdowns, had some 867 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: really good moments in that game. How is he preparing 868 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: for the second game back from that MCL spring. 869 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, Jordan Love coming back to Southern California. It'll be 870 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 7: the first game at Sofi Stadium for where close to 871 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,399 Speaker 7: where he grew up, a couple hour drive from Baker's reel. 872 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 7: The excited about having the family and friends in there. 873 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 7: But you mentioned the three interceptions, so four interceptions in 874 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 7: his two games this season, and that really is headline 875 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 7: making because you consider Tom how well he played down 876 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 7: the stretch last year in the last eight games, only 877 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 7: had one interception. And Jordan Love practice as a full 878 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 7: participant today for the first time since before the season started, 879 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 7: before the knee injury. He's saying that hopefully that chemistry 880 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,919 Speaker 7: and the rhythm and the timing with his receivers ought 881 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 7: to show up there a little off on Sunday, and 882 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 7: obviously they were down twenty eight nothing at one point 883 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 7: against the Vikings, so they were throwing an unusually high amount. 884 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 7: Matt Lafleur saying, throwing fifty four times in the game 885 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,720 Speaker 7: is not how they want to win consistently. So looking 886 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 7: to get the ground game back and a little more 887 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 7: balance attack against the Rams, who obviously boast the rookie 888 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 7: of the Month in Jared First with his five tackles 889 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 7: for loss his sack. But offensively, you know, Matt Lafleur 890 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 7: has a ton of respect for his brother, Mike the 891 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 7: offensive coordinator, and Sean McVay, who's like a brother to him. 892 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,479 Speaker 7: Matt Lafleur looking to go five and zero against Sean 893 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 7: McVay as head coaches and the Rams focusing on getting 894 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 7: in the red zone and scoring touchdowns. They had four 895 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 7: field goals just one touchdown last week again the Bears. 896 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 7: That was the difference. And you talked about everybody being 897 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 7: banged up seemingly in the NFC West. The Rams have 898 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 7: already started nine different offensive linemen this season, looking to 899 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 7: find some consistency there, looking to find their footing as 900 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 7: they face the Packers in this what seems to be 901 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 7: an all important game for as much as it can 902 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 7: be in early October for the Rams. 903 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: Thank you, Omar. Enjoy that game on Sunday, George Love 904 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 1: versus Matthew Stafford. And that is not the only intriguing 905 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: quarterback matchup come Week five. Here, Ian, you know, we 906 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:36,760 Speaker 1: got a good one. 907 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 2: Look at these guys. 908 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 3: I think we're gonna see a lot of well, if 909 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 3: we see a lot of that from Josh Allen, that's 910 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 3: probably not a great sign for the Houston Texans that 911 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 3: if we see a lot of this from c Dish 912 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 3: Droud not a great sign for the Bills. My guess 913 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 3: is we probably see a lot of vote that for 914 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 3: both of these two rockstar quarterbacks. 915 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 2: CJ. Stroud be Josh Allen. 916 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: To the best young quarterbacks in the NA. 917 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 2: Going toe to toe. 918 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 3: I know they don't face each other, they're not in 919 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 3: the field at the same time, but you still sort 920 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 3: of say that it's quarterback v quarterback right anyway. 921 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 2: Mark Ross, Brian Baldinger, welcome. 922 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 3: Back and thanks for hanging out with me. Look, these 923 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 3: are two of the best young quarterbacks in the NFL. 924 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 3: It's a matchup that I think everyone loves. I'm not 925 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 3: saying this overshadowed these Tefon Digg's revenge game, but maybe almost. 926 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 2: Mark, take me through what you see on Sunday from 927 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 2: these teams. 928 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 12: Definitely Stefon Diggs is a storyline. But yes, let's talk 929 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 12: about those quarterbacks and Ian you stole my thunder there. 930 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 12: Whereat they're not playing each other, they're playing against the defenses, 931 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 12: but it's still fun to talk about it. This really, 932 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 12: for me is just the ascension of CJ. Stroud and 933 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 12: where does this put him on the hierarchy? We know 934 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 12: Mahomes is at the top, Lamar is up there, but 935 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 12: Josh Allen went against Lamar last week. Lamar got the 936 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 12: better of that deal. But this is another measuring stick 937 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 12: for CJ. Stroud to say, at my time, am I 938 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 12: third guy in the AFC? And Joe Burrow is still there? 939 00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: Where am I here? 940 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,280 Speaker 12: So I think this will be a huge opportunity for CJ. 941 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 12: Stroud to say, you know what, I'm deserving of being 942 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 12: top five. If he wins this game and balls out 943 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 12: torches that defense, then you can definitely make a case 944 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 12: for that. So Stefan Diggs, the second story line, Buffalo 945 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 12: is saying they don't need them, get rid of them. 946 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: Well, CJ. 947 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 12: Stroud, I think might target him often early and always 948 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:21,959 Speaker 12: throughout this game. 949 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: Baldy. 950 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 5: You know, Mark, it's interesting when you look at Houston 951 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 5: this year. They're three and one. They got really skunked 952 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 5: by Minnesota two weeks ago, they bounced back and come 953 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 5: back win last week. They're basically a twenty point offense, 954 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 5: and you're like, wait a second. They got Nico and 955 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 5: they've got Digs, and they got this offensive line, and 956 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,919 Speaker 5: you go, what's holding him back? Well, they're the most 957 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 5: penalized team in the league, and you know that can't 958 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 5: be a good thing for Demico Ryan to deal with. 959 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,720 Speaker 5: And you watch him last week against Jacksonville and CJ's 960 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 5: making great throws and these calls and these players are 961 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,919 Speaker 5: all coming back, and you know they needed a fourth 962 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 5: quarter touchdown to go win that game, and they did 963 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 5: a goal line stand to win. But they had twelve 964 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 5: penalties last week, and a lot of them on the 965 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 5: offensive line, holding illegal procedures, and they keep putting themselves 966 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 5: into a hole. I feel like this offense can really 967 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 5: take off if they clean that up. It hasn't happened yet, 968 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 5: and maybe it's going to continue. But if it does 969 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 5: clean up, I think this offense is going to take off. 970 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 5: And maybe we see a shootout this weekend in Houston. 971 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 2: I mean I would be here for all of that. 972 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 3: If this is the game where the Texans offense hits 973 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,399 Speaker 3: their stride and the Bills offense has already hit the stride, 974 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 3: then we will be some fireworks this Sunday. Mark Baldy, 975 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,280 Speaker 3: thank you guys very much for your insight. 976 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 2: As always, cannot wait for this one on Sunday. 977 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, this guy right here, Jayden Daniels has done nothing 978 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 3: except for basically complete every single pass and have sixty 979 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,720 Speaker 3: five to seventy percent of the highlights of this NFL season. 980 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 5: Was this what I expected? 981 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 3: No, but let's talk about some of our favorite players 982 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 3: of the week. 983 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 2: Coming up next on the. 984 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: NFL It's Sunday Morning Football Live from London nine to 985 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,720 Speaker 1: thirty am Eastern six thirty am Pacific, exclusively on NFL Network, 986 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and the Jets take on Justin Jefferson and 987 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: the Vikings. Oh the disrespect to Sam Darnold in this 988 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: promo copy at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London. Rise, shine 989 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: and watch Jets versus Vikings on NFL Network and streaming 990 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: on NFL Plus. Subscription required for NFL Plus. We got 991 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 1: some initial awards for September, not just this past week, 992 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: and it's a whole month. Josh Allen AFC Offensive Player 993 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 1: a Month, Kyle van Noyt AFC Defensive Player of the Month. 994 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels, no surprise, he is the Rookie of the 995 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 1: Month in the NFC. Jared Versus Defensive Rookie of the Month. 996 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: Getting that Rams defense go and I start out with 997 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: you here, Judy who had the most impressive September across 998 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:00,720 Speaker 1: the NFL. 999 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 6: I am going with Vikings quarterback Sam Donald. We didn't 1000 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 6: give him any love in that. 1001 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: Promo, but I will give. 1002 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 6: He looks nothing like the quarterback that we saw for 1003 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 6: the New York Jets. His best year was twenty nineteen 1004 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 6: for the Jets. He had nineteen touchdowns and thirteen interceptions 1005 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,959 Speaker 6: in thirteen games that year. That year, He's already thrown 1006 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 6: for eleven touchdowns this year in four games, Sam Donald, 1007 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:29,439 Speaker 6: give me Kyle. 1008 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: Van Noy, and remember, I'm going to last year. 1009 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 4: Kyle Van Noy was supposed to be a guest on 1010 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 4: The Insiders. 1011 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: He was a free agent. We're going to have him 1012 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: on to be like. 1013 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 4: Hey, everybody here, I am kylevid. He canceled because he 1014 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 4: was visiting the ravens now. He's picking up two sacks 1015 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 4: a game. 1016 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,399 Speaker 1: As he's getting older. Agent like, fine, wine, what's up? Kyle? 1017 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: Be on the show one of these days. 1018 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 2: He's got no love for us, even though we had 1019 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,359 Speaker 2: love for him. It's all right. He broke his face. 1020 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 2: He still played the next game. Anyway. I want to 1021 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 2: talk about Brandon Aubrey, the Cowboys. 1022 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 3: Kicker, one of the coolest joy in the NFL basically 1023 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 3: was on his couch and was like, I can go 1024 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 3: be an NFL kicker, and that was one of the 1025 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 3: best in the NFL. 1026 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 2: That's a ridiculous story that never happened. 1027 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 1: By Carbon bye, everybody, see you tomorrow.