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Speaker 1: What's up, y'all. Welcome back. I'm your host, Will mcfatt

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Speaker 1: and I've got Tory mclaney and Tarren Walk and we

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Speaker 1: are here to break down joint practices. We're gonna start

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Speaker 1: at the top of a little bit of a follow

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Speaker 1: up to the first preseason game. I apologize. I told

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Speaker 1: y'all you would have a final whistle coming Monday, but

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Speaker 1: because of the way that the game ended, you know,

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Speaker 1: we decided just to press pause on that. It's still

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Speaker 1: you know, we're working through the kinks, and we felt

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Speaker 1: like that wasn't the right time to kind of go

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Speaker 1: through that exercise. So everything, you know, if it goes

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Speaker 1: according to plan, we will have another final whistle on

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Speaker 1: Monday for you all after this second preseason game. But

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Speaker 1: kind of to share some thoughts on that preseason the

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Speaker 1: first preseason game, because you didn't hear from us, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna start briefly at the top, just talk about one

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Speaker 1: guy that we each picked that we felt either kind

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Speaker 1: of built throughout these two joint practices or maybe took

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Speaker 1: needs to kind of reignite that fire this weekend. So Tory,

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Speaker 1: we'll start with you after Friday's preseason game. Was there

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Speaker 1: somebody you felt really stood out in that game that

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Speaker 1: kind of either did a great job these last couple

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Speaker 1: of practices or maybe took a step back.

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Speaker 2: For me, it was D'Angelo Imlone. I was very fascinated

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Speaker 2: with the cross training that he has been doing at

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Speaker 2: inside linebacker and more traditionally coming off the edge, and

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Speaker 2: that has been something that I feel like I've spent

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Speaker 2: a lot of time on this week asking Jeff Ulbrick,

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Speaker 2: Raheem Morris, even Dangelo himself what this transition has looked

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Speaker 2: like for him, because I do think that this is

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Speaker 2: the coaches really valuing. Yes, he is a special teams guy,

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Speaker 2: I believe, Rahim said he is the Barnyard bully on

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Speaker 2: special teams and that is his starting role. But the

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Speaker 2: fact that they are they're gonna have to make hard

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Speaker 2: decisions on a fifty three man roster, and you have

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Speaker 2: to provide more value than just special teams, and so

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Speaker 2: they're actively trying to figure out how to add value

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Speaker 2: to him within this defensive unit. He is somebody who,

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Speaker 2: like Jeff Fulbrig said, there were so many guys that

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Speaker 2: when Jeff Elbert came in and started evaluating this roster.

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Speaker 2: Is like there was a lot of guys who were

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Speaker 2: that was a fair They'd been in so many different

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Speaker 2: They didn't have time or honestly the capabilities to be like,

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Speaker 2: we can only focus on this one thing. So for

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Speaker 2: someone like Dangelo and Malone, it kind of got lost

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Speaker 2: in the shuffle. Well, as time has gone on this preseason,

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Speaker 2: I've been really excited about what I've seen him, particularly

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Speaker 2: playing a depth role within inside linebackers and off the edge.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're really full off the edge, and we

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Speaker 2: only got to see him a little bit, but what

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Speaker 2: I saw from him an inside linebacker I thought was

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Speaker 2: pretty important as you're talking about roster cutdowns, as you're

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Speaker 2: talking about people who add value across the entire fifty

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Speaker 2: three man. So he was somebody who if I'm talking

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Speaker 2: movers and shakers up and down the roster, he's someone

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Speaker 2: that after I saw what he did in that first

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Speaker 1: And you have a movers and shakers piece that comes

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Speaker 1: up after these preseason games. So anybody who wants more

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Speaker 1: of an idea of really who we saw kind of

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Speaker 1: rise or fall after a prese game, go check that out.

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Speaker 1: But dan Sel Malone is a player we talked a

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Speaker 1: lot about last preseason as somebody who really stood out

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Speaker 1: he's doing a lot. Was there anybody who saw in

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Speaker 1: this first preseason game that you felt the same way about.

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Speaker 3: Well, you can always find my standouts from a game

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Speaker 3: in the game breakdown that'll publish right at the buzzer

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Speaker 3: every game, and this week in the preseason game, I

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Speaker 3: did a defensive and offensive and instead of going into

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Speaker 3: detail about them, go read it. But the names are

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Speaker 3: because you said, going into joint practices, what you wanted

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Speaker 3: unquote flag of concern would have to be the run game,

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Speaker 3: see more, you need to see more, and so that's

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Speaker 3: something I hope they focused on in joint practices. I

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Speaker 3: don't know that we saw any big runs, but it's

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Speaker 3: It's just a thud and done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the problem that I had with the second

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Speaker 2: that's a big area that I think we're all looking

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent that not being able to climb

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Speaker 1: But I thought all week long, Josh Woods has been

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Speaker 1: more about joint practices. We mentioned kind of that reserve

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Speaker 1: But was there anything else that over the span of

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Speaker 3: Oh, gosh, the today is more recent mind aka Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: I almost a Thursday.

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Speaker 1: It feels Thursday energy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But Wednesday, with all the scuffles that happened, I

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Speaker 3: And something that surprised me is like, when it was

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Speaker 3: so I'll let Tory talk about it. The offense was

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Speaker 3: what I expected, and I think that has stood out most.

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Speaker 3: But besides that, I think yesterday was a completely different

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Speaker 3: walked away thinking the Falcons quote unquote won the joint

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Speaker 3: showed up thinking they had more to prove or had

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Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley did did call out social media while scoring

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Speaker 3: of social media, so he know about what people were

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Speaker 3: something with more to prove, and maybe that heightened the emotions.

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Speaker 3: Not saying they won. It just was a very different practice.

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Speaker 2: I think for me, my observations are kind of twofold.

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Speaker 2: I'll start with the idea of I feel like this

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Speaker 2: have been very impressive. They're very impressive on Friday night,

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Speaker 2: collapsing the pocket. I thought that they're very impressive, especially

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Speaker 2: it was obvious how much pressure he has been under

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Speaker 2: the last couple of days, based on the intensity that

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Speaker 2: talking about within the fifty three man roster is Natrone

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Speaker 2: This is a guy who we have been talking about

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Speaker 2: And so he's someone who, as we're talking about the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, you guys, piggyback off that a little bit because

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Speaker 3: it just reminded me of someone who I noted today

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Speaker 3: to see how much they are cultivating that depth in

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Speaker 3: so to know that they're building that in the backfield. Also,

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Speaker 3: not that they're going to rotate nearly as often, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's an important note because you could

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Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily matter as much, but you are able

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Speaker 1: to get that continuity developing of I'm just hearing somebody

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Speaker 1: else's voice that I'm not used to giving me that

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Speaker 1: information is important. But we haven't done a great job

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Speaker 1: of sticking with our Camp Champ, much of the chagrin

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Speaker 1: of a vocal minority. But I do think Theatron Brooks

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Speaker 1: would be definitely in the running right now for Camp Champ.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he and Casey Washington like that we should just

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Speaker 1: We should have done that afterwards? Is all right? You

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Speaker 1: We do have a great interview with Westurham coming up

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Speaker 1: Of course, the minute he speaks, you will know exactly

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Speaker 2: it's probably established. But for you, is there a feeling

436
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Speaker 2: around the team right now that remind you of any

437
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 2: team in the last twenty years.

438
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Speaker 4: I'm really bad at recalling specific years. Here I can

439
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 4: recall players, okay, okay, So here's kind of where I

440
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 4: am on this, And it didn't take me long to

441
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 4: draw this kind of comparison. We haven't really had any

442
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 4: as Arts likes to call them pile scrapers since Harvey

443
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 4: Dall and Tyson clay Bow were in the offensive line.

444
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 4: It feels like now that Matthew berger On and Ryan

445
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 4: Noozl and Chris Linstrom and to a degree Caleb and Jake,

446
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 4: who are the much more familiar pieces, if you will,

447
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,120
Speaker 4: it feels like we got some pile scrapers right, and

448
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 4: maybe Bergeron has moved himself into the pile scraping mode. Now,

449
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 4: why are they pilescrapers? Because the early things with James Pierce, okay,

450
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 4: and we hadn't had anybody like that in a while

451
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 4: who's willing to bring the fight when it's your own

452
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 4: team and you're not wearing pats. Okay, So I respect

453
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 4: kind of the emotions in the momentum of both those

454
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 4: and think that that is a potential playing personality once

455
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Speaker 4: we get going. Look, we got three preseason games, by

456
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 4: the way, and then you start the season in weeks

457
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 4: one and two against teams that were double figure win

458
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 4: teams a year ago. I mean it's a lot and

459
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 4: so I see where that kind of energy can really

460
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 4: help this team. Because I don't know, you guys will

461
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 4: talk about the schedule at back and forth. I think

462
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 4: the first four are pretty big before the bye yep.

463
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 4: I think those four games. If you box him up

464
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 4: and said any four of the rest of the year,

465
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 4: I'd pick those four just because of who they are,

466
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 4: where they are that kind of you know, Tampa the

467
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 4: way last year went Minnesota because of what happened up

468
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 4: there last year, Washington, Carolina. I mean, you know, they're

469
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 4: all kind of sitting right there in that nice little

470
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 4: bracket before the bye week. So I think it's going

471
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 4: to be a team that does and raheem use this

472
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 4: term too edge, I think this team's gonna play with

473
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Speaker 4: the edge. I think it's gonna be on both sides

474
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Speaker 4: of the ball. That's kind of we haven't had the

475
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 4: offensive line edge, if you will. We had it some

476
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Speaker 4: with the Super Bowl team, right, but not like the

477
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 4: Clay Bow Doll McClure. You know guys you wanted to

478
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 4: talk to on the bus going to the airport, Clay

479
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 4: Bow who came up acted really nice to you, and

480
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 4: you were like, God, he is such a jack on

481
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 4: game days. Or Harvey Dall, who I'll never forget just

482
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 4: went downfield one time and cleaned some guy out and

483
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 4: got a flag. And I'm thinking, that's okay, that's what

484
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 4: you that's a message you wanted to send. So we'll

485
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 4: see how it goes. But I am intrigued to kind

486
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 4: of see it once it gets going.

487
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Speaker 1: I mean one of the one of the kind of

488
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: scuffles out there during practice was kind of a moment

489
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Speaker 1: like that where it was a double team I think

490
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 1: on James and sure, we'll just kind of like just

491
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: kept holding him the whole time. But you could tell

492
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: that James wasn't backing down either. So yeah, you've got

493
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: this kind of immovable object, unstoppable force mentality at least

494
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: I think.

495
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Speaker 4: And look, and there are other guys on this team

496
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 4: who have that kind of playing personality. I mean, Tory

497
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 4: and I have talked in the off season a little bit,

498
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 4: and the one that drives me crazy is Divine Diablo

499
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 4: because I saw him as a college player as a safety,

500
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 4: and now knowing kind of what he does for this team,

501
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 4: I am really gunned up about what he can beat, right,

502
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I just think he fits it. And then

503
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 4: his impact on other guys, and that's back to the

504
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 4: whole you know, youth movement, veteran element composition of this

505
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 4: football team. And yeah, I can hear everybody going, well,

506
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 4: all thirty two other teams are just like that, Yeah,

507
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 4: but this one is a little unique, I think in

508
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 4: just the dynamic of timing more than anything else. And

509
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 4: sometimes it is about timing, yeah, I mean, you guys

510
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 4: know the history of this franchise. Sometimes you just kind

511
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 4: of walk into it and it feels somehow like maybe

512
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 4: that's to their advantage again this year too.

513
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Speaker 2: I think the word we're talking about playing with an edge,

514
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: but I also think the word that this offense specifically

515
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 2: wants to be known for is explosion. Explosion being an

516
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 2: explosive offense. And I'm curious, even in the three games

517
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 2: that we saw of Michael Pennix, what your impression was

518
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: of him and what needs to happen in order for

519
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 2: him to take the next step to potentially be the

520
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,959
Speaker 2: guy super long term down the road.

521
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this has really probably been a very

522
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 4: different season from a year ago for him, long before

523
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 4: camp started, long before certainly we played the year. I

524
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 4: thought one of the things that benefited him so much

525
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 4: last year when he was given those three games was

526
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Speaker 4: the fact he played a lot of college football. And

527
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 4: the term I came away with at the end of

528
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 4: last year was he throws guys open. I think his

529
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 4: arm is big enough to do that. I think now

530
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Speaker 4: we get to find out how many variables there are

531
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 4: in Zach Robinson's playbook for Michael Pennix to make plays. Look,

532
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 4: we're not talking about Lamar Jackson's speed, but we are

533
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 4: talking about a guy who can make plays with his feet. Yeah,

534
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 4: he is very athletic. You know, we're all enamored about

535
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 4: he and Kyle Pitts in their golf game, along with

536
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 4: their ability to connect because we've been waiting on Kyle

537
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 4: since his rookie year. But the reality of this is,

538
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 4: Michael Pennix has to orchestrate the offense here. He's got

539
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 4: to make Jean Robinson a top five running back. He's

540
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: got to make Drake London top five wide receiver. Given

541
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 4: Darnell Mooney's health, what will he be able to contribute?

542
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 4: Can he come back toward those numbers a year ago?

543
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 4: And then how does Cadaryl Hodge figure in? How does

544
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 4: some of these other guys coming along. I just think

545
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 4: Michael Pennix is wiring, is going to be exposed this year.

546
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 4: Last year was just the physical gifts, the ability to

547
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 4: rip it, you know, make the decisions, drive the team

548
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 4: laid against Washington, stuff like that. This year we get

549
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 4: to find out if he's got that kind of killer

550
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 4: mentality from Game one on, that winning mentality. You know,

551
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 4: we got spoiled around here for a long time with that.

552
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 4: And Michael had moments at Washington, not so much at Indiana,

553
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 4: although there were a couple. He did have some moments

554
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 4: at Washington where you know, he drove them to win,

555
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 4: and that year they ultimately ended up in the National

556
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 4: Championship Game one at Oregon. I do believe he is

557
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 4: were in that acumen than we realize, but we haven't

558
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 4: seen it except for the one drive in DC. So

559
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 4: that's the one thing I'm looking forward to. I'm also

560
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 4: been pretty impressed with his poison handling all this. Yep.

561
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 4: You know, some guys get ahead of themselves. That's not

562
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 4: been the case, at least so far with him.

563
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we've talked you know, a good bit

564
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Speaker 1: so far and came about his kind of maturity and

565
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: the confidence, but that it's been very true to himself, right,

566
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: And that's the biggest thing with the quarterback is it

567
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: can't be fake. And I actually I know the Washington

568
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: game was a great moment for him. I feel like

569
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: that touchdown run against Carolina and we gave team sure.

570
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: I've felt a little bit of that kind of like

571
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: competitive like you're not getting me down. I'm making this

572
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: play by myself vibe from him. So, but you're right,

573
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: the ability to orchestrate an offense and what does he

574
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: bring to an offense that allows them to kind of

575
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: open it up and have these weeks week maybe wrinkles

576
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: that other teams then have to really game plan against,

577
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: or it takes time away from some of the other things.

578
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: What does Michael Pennix bring to that so early on?

579
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: Like do you still expect knowing the great running backs,

580
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: the great offensive line? Like this is still a running offense, right,

581
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: Or do you think adding a big arm with Michael

582
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: Pennix changes that to some degree?

583
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: No?

584
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 4: I think you're right. I think the usage rate of

585
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: Tyler Algier will be interesting. John Robinson's usage rate will

586
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 4: be high. It should has to be high, and it

587
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 4: should be high, right, But what is Tyler Aljier's usage rate? Look,

588
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 4: we all understand the math of the National Football League, right,

589
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a big year for Tyler Algier.

590
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 4: It's a big year, you know, invariably a big year

591
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 4: for Drake London, Kyle Pitts. We understand that on the

592
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 4: offensive side, And I agree with Pennix. If it all

593
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: goes right, this can be an incredibly gifted unit. Yes,

594
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 4: but you got to have it go right and you've

595
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 4: got to get off to the good start. I'm curious

596
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 4: to see and I think Warren Sharp does the football

597
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 4: analysis and I think he's got great information. Tyler Aljier

598
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 4: did not play more than twenty snaps in like the

599
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 4: last four or five games of the year weird, and

600
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 4: when you look at the number, you think, oh no,

601
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: wait a second, he was on the field more than that,

602
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 4: and then you realize the ball of his work was

603
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 4: what set week seven through ten somewhere along in there, right.

604
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 4: It felt like in the middle of the year he

605
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 4: had the big game in Charlotte when Arch coined him

606
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: the bowling ball of knives or whatever it was. Yeah,

607
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 4: razor blades, that's it. Amazing work, you know, and it

608
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 4: was just it was hilarious. So you did see a

609
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 4: high usage rate for him. But did we ever get to,

610
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 4: like I know you guys talked about this last year,

611
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 4: did we ever really get to a combination of he

612
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 4: and Beajon together where there was an impact to be made.

613
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: There was one It was against the Steelers Week one,

614
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: and there was one specific play that they had them

615
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: both in the backfield. It was a handoff two Bajon

616
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: and I think it was a pickup of seven or

617
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: eight yards and that. And then there was one other time,

618
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: notably the same thing, but it was a tackle for

619
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: a loss a few weeks later the.

620
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: City is the game that I'm saying it was that

621
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: fourth down play. Yeah, fourth and two both go in

622
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: there at the same time, and Tyler, you know, not

623
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: that he missed the blood like I think that was

624
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: his assignment yamately, So that was kind of the last

625
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: time because I remember being like, ooh, yep, we're getting

626
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: the two backs in here.

627
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: In very early yeah, and then we never really saw

628
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: it out of that. Yeah.

629
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you wonder somewhere in the packaging is there,

630
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 4: you know, we saw a lot of what one back

631
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 4: two tight end situations last year. Is there some place

632
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 4: this year where it's eleven personnel and it's Toleral Jeers

633
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 4: the running back and Robinson somewhere lining up as a

634
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: wide receiver.

635
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: I think it's very possible.

636
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, because you know, and look, everybody's everybody

637
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 4: says they're four three three four whatever, they're all multiple, right,

638
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 4: But the reality toory, right is it feels like at

639
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 4: some point you put both those guys out there, and

640
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 4: if you can do it the right way, especially upfront,

641
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: you can handle the blocking up front. How much of

642
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 4: that happened post Cousins, not much, if any, because Algier,

643
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 4: as we just stated, was not on the field that much.

644
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: So I'm curious to see what they can get to

645
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 4: I don't think we'll see it in the preseason, right,

646
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 4: and I think we'll I think we'll get to it

647
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 4: at some point. And I'm curious on the usage rate

648
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: of Tyler in particular, especially early in the campaign, as

649
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 4: to how that works for him, and what's the checks

650
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 4: and balances with Bajan because clearly he's a showstopper.

651
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Speaker 2: So you brought him up and I'm gonna bring him

652
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Speaker 2: back up again because he is basically the enigma of

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Speaker 2: this offense, and it's Kyle Pits and what this fifth

654
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Speaker 2: year could look like for him? And I know I

655
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Speaker 2: asked Robert Mays this question. I've asked some different people,

656
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Speaker 2: but like, what does a successful year for Kyle Pits

657
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Speaker 2: look like? When you have a rookie year that you

658
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Speaker 2: are trying to replicate and you.

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Speaker 5: Never really get back to that, Ye, what does this

660
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Speaker 5: fifth year look like? If what does that success look like?

661
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Speaker 5: Do we need to change the way we're thinking about

662
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Speaker 5: Cole Pits.

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Speaker 4: It feels like it's been years and years, I mean

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Speaker 4: like a decade since he caught the touchdown pass in London. Yes, yes,

665
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Speaker 4: I mean TV pass from Matt Ryan in London. Feels

666
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Speaker 4: like it was three presidential administrations ago.

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Speaker 2: And also that was the only touchdown he scored at

668
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Speaker 2: all that year the Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you will for those of you scoring on the

670
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Speaker 4: Pro Bowl way, Yeah, that's what will McFadden's got all

671
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Speaker 4: your Pro Bowl highlights coming up next year.

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Speaker 2: That was important because it was the only touchdown that

673
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Speaker 2: he scored on US oil.

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Speaker 1: That's why I remember it. That's why I remember it.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it does feel like forever ago because it was.

677
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Speaker 4: So let's go back to the dynamic here about Cole Pits. Okay,

678
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Speaker 4: highest drafted tight end right the whole nine yards. We

679
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Speaker 4: remember that second part it is he's coming to a

680
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: city who really has had not only a Hall of

681
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 4: Fame tight end Tony Gonzalez, has had very successful, underrated

682
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl tight ends in their history. I mean Algie

683
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Speaker 4: Crumpler on.

684
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Speaker 2: We literally this summer, we're talking about Algae Crumpler for

685
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Speaker 2: probably ten straight minutes.

686
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Speaker 1: All right, I use my favorite player growing up out

687
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Speaker 1: outside of mic of course, but.

688
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 4: Now Algernon Darius Crumpler from Wilmington, North Carolina. So all

689
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Speaker 4: that being said, Kyle came in and had to operate

690
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Speaker 4: with those expectations already built in. Okay, you come in

691
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Speaker 4: under one coach, you end up with another.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, thank.

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Speaker 4: You, Yeah, that's the other one. Go from the greatest

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Speaker 4: quarterback in franchise history. So then you go through the

695
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Speaker 4: carousela Mariota Desmond Ritter. Oh by the way, here yeah,

696
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Speaker 4: Taylor Henike, Here comes Kirk Cousins. And now all of

697
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Speaker 4: a sudden, you're Michael Pennix, now one of their golf buddies.

698
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: He's trying to get a name tag, get a feel

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Speaker 4: for the guy.

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Speaker 1: Figure it out.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you threw me the ball of water Washington is

702
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Speaker 4: a great catch. Here's tell me what else you like

703
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Speaker 4: to do?

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Speaker 1: We got a tea time, let's go.

705
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you don't. I don't blame him, but it

706
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 4: gets back to the question of the sharing of the

707
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Speaker 4: football here. I mean, what's the matchup going to look like?

708
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Speaker 4: How do our defense is going to key more on

709
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 4: seven than eight? Are they going to key on five

710
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 4: more than seven? Seven and five are outliers and a

711
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 4: scouting report, in my opinion, they're the two top names

712
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 4: every week. Then what does nine do and how does

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Speaker 4: that impact eight. The one thing I've noticed in training camp,

714
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Speaker 4: Kyle's been much more of a willing blocker in some things,

715
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Speaker 4: in terms of things like Mike Johnson, who does the

716
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Speaker 4: mornings here in Atlanta on radio. Stand behind him at

717
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 4: one camp and he'll say, man, way, Pitts just you know,

718
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Speaker 4: created a block and a path for a jump cut

719
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Speaker 4: on a run game. There we go, Okay, so let's

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Speaker 4: check on the investment. I don't disagree that it's enigma

721
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Speaker 4: is such a negative connotation in terms of the word,

722
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Speaker 4: and it's frustrating for him as much as it is

723
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Speaker 4: for any fan. And we totally understand that. And as broadcasters,

724
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 4: you want to see, you want to call his name

725
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 4: in a game. That's the thing when I noticed they're

726
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 4: in a bit of a downswoon with him is when

727
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 4: I don't call his name much. Interesting if I don't

728
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: say his name much during a game ball intended for

729
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Speaker 4: whether it was completed or not. If you don't call

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Speaker 4: his name much, you wonder, Okay, has he disappeared from

731
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Speaker 4: the plan? Have they just not been able to find

732
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Speaker 4: a way? Feels like right now, with given the other weapons,

733
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Speaker 4: he's not at the top of the old scouting report.

734
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Speaker 4: I mean, think about it. Is he he's not one

735
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Speaker 4: or two? Is he three?

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Speaker 1: I think strong? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Again, I go back to the conversation that I had

738
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Speaker 2: with Robert Mays, which everybody can can go check that

739
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Speaker 2: out as well. But he was like, when I'm thinking

740
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Speaker 2: about this offense, He's like, I don't really think about him,

741
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Speaker 2: And that is like, that's hard to hear because you're

742
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Speaker 2: talking about a number overall pick. But like if you're

743
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: having people from the outside looking in from five thousand

744
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: feet up, like and they're not really talking.

745
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Speaker 4: About him, Like, I mean, he's gonna be on the roster,

746
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 4: you know. That's he's locked here. Yeah, he and Charlie

747
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 4: Warner are locked. The third tight end is gonna be

748
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 4: a fascinating piece of what Atlanta ultimately gets to here.

749
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Speaker 4: But he has got to be a factor. And I

750
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Speaker 4: wouldn't say we're boxing up those four games, will I'm

751
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 4: not gonna put as much pressure on those four as

752
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 4: I am the long game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. First I

753
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 4: just wanted to be start to finish. I'm just not

754
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Speaker 4: really interested in like, you know, flashes in.

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Speaker 1: The first three to six yards and then twelve yards

756
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Speaker 1: right and then yah.

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00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then go back to ratios on targets per game. Yes,

758
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 4: sometimes it goes six, sometimes it's two. A couple of

759
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 4: times it's been one, you know. I mean we go

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Speaker 4: back to usage with toler aljiyear we can have the

761
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Speaker 4: same conversation as the urunfolds. I think about Kyle Pitts too.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's such an interesting way to look

763
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Speaker 1: at it, where it's like when I'm saying his name,

764
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Speaker 1: more like I feel like the offense is in a

765
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Speaker 1: flow that there may be you know, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, when you've got the weaponry that Archie

767
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Speaker 4: and I've been fortunate to call for twenty odd years here,

768
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 4: you kind of know when it's rolling okay, and you know,

769
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 4: like in the Super Bowl year you were bang bang

770
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 4: bang bang bang bang, And that's kind of what it

771
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 4: feels like it has the chance to be. Not saying

772
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 4: it will be, but it feels like it can do that.

773
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Speaker 4: And if so, he's going to be a big part

774
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Speaker 4: of that. Well.

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Speaker 1: The player I was I thought about when you were

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Speaker 1: saying that was actually Harry Douglas. It reminded me a

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Speaker 1: little bit of like nobody would compare him to de

778
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Speaker 1: Julio RODDI. But when like Harry was getting the ball

779
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Speaker 1: and successful at doing it, it was almost a sign

780
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Speaker 1: that the entire offense was having a good day.

781
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, let's go back to that team in this respect.

782
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 4: Everybody knew how good Devonte Freeman was, But who scored

783
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 4: the touchdown to open a second half of Atlanta Tevin Coleman.

784
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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 4: See, that's what I mean about the combination at running

786
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Speaker 4: back too. You've got two gears. How do you change

787
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Speaker 4: those gears? Kyle Shanahan found ways to balance Freeman and

788
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Speaker 4: Coleman together. I think Zach has the ability certainly if

789
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Speaker 4: they want to try and do that with Robinson and

790
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Speaker 4: with al Jeer, they also do it in the throw game.

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Speaker 4: Because remember who else was involved in that touchdown in

792
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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl too, rookie tied end from Stanford Austin,

793
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Speaker 4: Austin Hooper, Austin Hooper, Julio Jones, Harry Douglas. Right. I mean,

794
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 4: you had all this stuff stacked up, all this artillery

795
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 4: was stacked up and ready to go. And you know, again,

796
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Speaker 4: that's why I think Pennix is not just saying it

797
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: to say it, although as the quarterback you probably should

798
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Speaker 4: you know, buy some optimism by some excitement, but there's

799
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Speaker 4: reason to think that if all goes well, you can

800
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Speaker 4: get toward that level they were was it ten years ago?

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Speaker 4: Now keep your take.

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00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: So that actually leads us right into kind of how

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Speaker 2: we like to close out the podcast with this question.

804
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: So it's a thought provoking one where it's like a

805
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: thought exercise.

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Speaker 4: Too old for thought provoking question.

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Speaker 2: Here's That's all we've been doing today is we're just

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00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: thinking it.

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00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: So let's fast forward to January twenty twenty six, and

811
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: you are calling the game for this team and they

812
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: have punched their ticket into the postseason. Okay, what is

813
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: one thing that happened over the course of the regular

814
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 2: season that got them there?

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Speaker 4: If they punched their ticket to the playoffs, they're going

816
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: to have been decent against the run, and I mean

817
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 4: that defensively, and they're going to win the turnover battle.

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Speaker 4: I'm not caught up in the red zone stuff yet

819
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Speaker 4: with this team. I just don't see that as kind

820
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 4: of being one of those things. But I do believe

821
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Speaker 4: they're going to have to stemy run and they're going

822
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Speaker 4: to have to win the turnover battle. They can't give

823
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Speaker 4: the ball away last couple of years, last three years,

824
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Speaker 4: I think the turnover stuff's just been you know, almost like.

825
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Speaker 2: A death mail, very lopsided. Yeah, and also the timeliness

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Speaker 2: I think of turnovers it matters greatly as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they look there been things from a during a game.

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Speaker 4: I keep this chart and make notes each week about

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Speaker 4: percentage of scoring allowed in a quarter or percentage that

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Speaker 4: they've scored in a quarter, and there have been quarters

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Speaker 4: where they've been sub fifteen percent. They can't have that

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Speaker 4: happen this year either. Now. They also can't allow teams

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Speaker 4: to score forty odd percent in the first half like

834
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Speaker 4: they did, you know, last couple of years. I think

835
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Speaker 4: that's all really really impactful. But to me, the two

836
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 4: things are run, defense and turnovers, and if they do

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Speaker 4: those two things, and the other part too is they've

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Speaker 4: been kind of unfortunate with injuries. When you think about

839
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Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, Grady Jarrett and the ACL

840
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Speaker 4: tear right, and then last year, you know, you just

841
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 4: never quite felt like they got it. DeMarco Hellams, to me,

842
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 4: was going to have a huge season a year ago,

843
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 4: and he would have been a perfect fit for what

844
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 4: they're doing defensively. If they can stay away from the

845
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 4: big injury. I think that's going to be critical too.

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Speaker 4: And that's easy to say, run defense and turnover margins

847
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 4: a little bit more factual.

848
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously, you know, injuries are the main thing

849
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: to kind of watch throughout the preseason and just hope

850
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: they can make it, you know, to that week one

851
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 1: relatively healthy. But totally agree, Wes, this was amazing. Thank

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00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: you so much for taking the time to join us.

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00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: Your insight is always appreciated and welcome.

854
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 4: Will you got the best voice on this podcast.

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00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: See now you're lying to the people that we got

856
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: the best hair on the podcast. I'll take that. I'll

857
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: take that.

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Speaker 4: Quite a flow you got going at Trevor, I mean

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Speaker 1: Will Yeah, Thank you guys so much for watching and listening,

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Speaker 1: and we will see you guys next time.