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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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Speaker 3: This is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And

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Speaker 3: today we're going to be talking about a Thai kaiju movie,

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Speaker 3: or at least partially Taie. I think this is a

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Speaker 3: Thai Japanese co production. Am I right about that? Rob?

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Speaker 2: Yes, though it is. It's the Thai aspects of it

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Speaker 2: are definitely tie to the max. It's filmed in Thailand,

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Speaker 2: has Thai actors, and features the really stars the Thai

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Speaker 2: variation of the god Hanuman.

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Speaker 3: Right, So this movie has a couple of different titles.

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Speaker 3: I think the English translation of the Thai title is

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Speaker 3: Hanuman versus Seven Ultramen. And then there's also an English

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Speaker 3: translation of a Japanese title I've seen it filed under,

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Speaker 3: which is The Dick's Ultra Brothers versus the Monster Army,

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Speaker 3: which I like out that the titles do not agree

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Speaker 3: on the numbers of ultras.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it can also be sometimes confused because

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Speaker 2: there's another film from the same year in the same

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Speaker 2: directors that I think is the follow up to this,

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Speaker 2: titled Hanaman and the Five Common Writers so that's a

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Speaker 2: different film but similar premise.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so this is not only our first Thaie movie,

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Speaker 3: this is also our first false versus film false versus

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Speaker 3: because the title Hanuman versus the Seven Ultraman is entirely misleading.

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Speaker 3: Hanuman never fights the Seven Ultramen. In fact, Hanuman in

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Speaker 3: this movie is created by the Seven Ultramen and they

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Speaker 3: fight together against some bad demons that are released from

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Speaker 3: the earth by arrogant scientists who don't believe in the gods.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more like seven Ultramen en list Hanaman, yeah,

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Speaker 2: or team up with Hanaman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But my one sentence review this this movie is

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Speaker 3: just a rush of endorphins. It's so good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a Oh it's a very colorful film.

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Speaker 2: I can't really stress that enough. Like when you think

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Speaker 2: of a Kaiju movie, there are certain things you expect.

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Speaker 2: You expect cool, kind of practical, sometimes goofy monster costumes.

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Speaker 2: This film has that. You expect model cities and structures

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Speaker 2: blowing up and getting crushed. Definitely, we have that. You

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Speaker 2: often expect children playing a major part in it, because

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Speaker 2: ultimately these are films for kids, and yes those are

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Speaker 2: present as well, But there are these mythological sequences involving

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Speaker 2: Hanoman and sometimes other deities. There are cosmic scenes that

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Speaker 2: are in play, and as we'll describe some of these

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Speaker 2: as we move along, but they are just so brilliant

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Speaker 2: and psychedelic at times that it's overpowering.

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Speaker 3: I was actually going to point out that there are

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Speaker 3: parts of this movie, in fact, I would say, especially

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Speaker 3: the first few minutes of the movie, going from like

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Speaker 3: the studio logo through the opening narration, that feature some

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Speaker 3: film techniques that you don't usually expect to see in

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Speaker 3: a big monster fight movie. And it actually weirdly reminded

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Speaker 3: me of the experimental films of Stan Brackage, like the

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Speaker 3: Dog Star Man sequence, which have a lot of things

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Speaker 3: like extreme close ups of weird textures and color manipulation,

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Speaker 3: unusual manipulations of the film stock itself. It felt like

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Speaker 3: techniques that felt more at home in the realm of

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Speaker 3: you know, mid twentieth century experimental film, but here they

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Speaker 3: are in a big in a big Kaiju slam.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's often invoked in a way that,

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Speaker 2: especially in the space scenes, it depicts a thoroughly mythological cosmos,

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Speaker 2: you know, a cosmos that ultimately has more in common

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Speaker 2: with with with say, like like like Hindu astrology than

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Speaker 2: with you know, even nineteen seventies understandings of what the

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Speaker 2: cosmos actually consisted of.

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Speaker 3: You Know, one of the funny things we were talking

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Speaker 3: about before we started recording is that I didn't quite

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Speaker 3: realize that this movie, in terms of themes, was essentially

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Speaker 3: going to be like one of those Christian apologetics movies,

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Speaker 3: like the Gods not Dead movies except for like Hanuman,

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Speaker 3: the Hindu Deities here and the Ultramen where an arrogant

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Speaker 3: scientist is punished for not necessarily punished, but an arrogant

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Speaker 3: scientist does wrong and releases a bunch of demons and

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Speaker 3: causes trouble basically because he doesn't believe in the gods. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a strong theme of that. There's some other

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Speaker 2: It's a film that's very forward with its themes, like yeah,

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Speaker 2: especially with some of the minor bad guys who we'll

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Speaker 2: get into. Like the minor bad guys are just super bad.

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Speaker 2: They're like tai and ladies to railroad tracks bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're also their major sin is that they

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Speaker 3: don't respect the gods either. I don't respect the temples.

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Speaker 3: They don't respect the Buddha. They try to cut off

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Speaker 3: a Buddhist statue's heads so they can sell it for money,

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Speaker 3: and they are they are mercilessly brutally punished for this act. Well,

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Speaker 3: actually they're they're punished for that and for shooting a

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Speaker 3: child in the face, so conventionally morally evil as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and that's another thing that I would say

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Speaker 2: it is it is kind of surprisingly violent at times. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like with the with the terrestrial violence involving the you know,

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Speaker 2: when you get to the big kaiju battles, these are

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Speaker 2: some brutal beatdowns. There are like moral Kombat style fatalities

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Speaker 2: that take place here that I don't recall really seeing

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Speaker 2: in the likes of Gamera and Godzilla.

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Speaker 3: You're absolutely right about that. And there's another way in

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Speaker 3: which I thought this was different than many of the

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Speaker 3: other giant monster fight movies I've seen. This one had

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Speaker 3: much more of an element of dance in it, yes,

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Speaker 3: than I thought any other one I've ever seen. So

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Speaker 3: it's not just you know, people in giant minds costumes

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Speaker 3: doing wrestling moves at each other. There spend a lot

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Speaker 3: of time almost sort of dancing at one another. And

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Speaker 3: there are other dance sequences in the movie, like a

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Speaker 3: large part of the early third of the film is

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Speaker 3: like children dancing and playing music to make it rain,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you might find yourself watching this and thinking how

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Speaker 2: much of the dance sequence am I going to have

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Speaker 2: to watch? And the answer is you will watch all

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Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, it is an extended sequence. And indeed

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Speaker 2: Hanaman and in a minute will explain Hanaman for everybody's

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Speaker 2: not familiar. The Hanomon is depicted here is not like

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Speaker 2: some sort of like sci fi twist on Hanaman. For

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Speaker 2: the most part, it is Hanomon as Hanaman is depicted

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Speaker 2: in the art and culture of Thailand, both in terms

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Speaker 2: of visual depictions but also performance depictions and traditional Thai dance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, So you get a lot of monkey

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Speaker 3: dances in the movie. Now, another thing I wanted to

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Speaker 3: come back to is I was trying to think of

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Speaker 3: examples of other false versus movies. I know there are some,

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Speaker 3: I just couldn't call them to mind. I didn't know

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Speaker 3: if you could think of any examples. But the closest

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Speaker 3: thing I actually came up with is a trash DVD

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Speaker 3: early two thousands. That's a movie called Frost Portrait of

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Speaker 3: a Vampire. It has Gary Busey in a bit part

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Speaker 3: but he is not a vampire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I can't think of another film offhand where it's

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Speaker 2: something versus something and they don't actually fight. Now, there

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Speaker 2: are plenty of examples where the versus matchup is about

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Speaker 2: two good characters who will fight each other but then

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Speaker 2: ultimately team up against a greater evil. I mean that's

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Speaker 2: a common trope.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, you know King Kong versus Godzilla, and

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Speaker 3: then actually they have to fight Mecca Godzilla or something. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but in this I don't Yeah. Hahnaman and the

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Speaker 2: the Ultra team are pretty square from the get go,

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Speaker 2: like they're they're they're never in conflict with each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even recall a minor disagreement. They're they're

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Speaker 3: absolutely in lock steps by side the entire time.

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Speaker 2: Fine tune the machine.

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe we should hit that trailer audio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's hear a little bit of the trailer

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Speaker 2: and and hopefully this is the right clip. You'll hear

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Speaker 2: some of the music in it, because there's a fabulous

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Speaker 2: Hanimon theme song in this that just as delightful, especially

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Speaker 2: if you if you enjoy like ty pop music of

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Speaker 2: this era, really good stuff. One easy Gone.

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Speaker 1: La playing on.

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Speaker 3: On get your Dumb Pig. Oh. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: we mentioned the year, we should say this movie is from.

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Speaker 3: What year? Is it nineteen seventy four?

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Speaker 2: Is that nineteen seventy four?

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Speaker 3: Yes, oh boy, that was a good year for tai kaiju.

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Speaker 2: All right, so let's get into some of the connections here.

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Speaker 2: Normally we talk about the human connections of Note, and

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Speaker 2: we are going to get to the humans, But first

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about the god of Note here,

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Speaker 2: and that is Hanoman born. If we can really put

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Speaker 2: a data on this sort of thing, maybe fifteen hundred BCE.

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Speaker 2: But then again, Hahnaman is a god, so it's kind

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Speaker 2: of ridiculous to even throw that out there. So yes,

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Speaker 2: this movie heavily features Hanaman and it's it's it's not

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Speaker 2: actually the Hindu god Hanaman. It's actually a guy in

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Speaker 2: actual god. And we're not talking Zeus or Poseidon, We're

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Speaker 2: not talking Cthulhu or Go. We're talking about a mythological

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Speaker 2: a god that is still like very much in play.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Hanaman is a fascinating figure in Hindu mythology. And while

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Speaker 2: nothing is certain, I believe some scholars believe that the

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Speaker 2: Chinese figure of Sun Wukong, the Monkey King, the Great

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Speaker 2: Sage equal to Heaven, may have at least partially emerged

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Speaker 2: a separate mythological entity as well.

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Speaker 3: Now sun Wukong, is this the figure who appears in say,

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Speaker 3: the novel Journey to the West, and yes, sometimes characterized

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, that is that is the Monkey King indeed,

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Speaker 2: and they have some shared characteristics, but again, each one

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Speaker 2: It's like they're really separate entities at this point. So

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Speaker 2: in getting into the Hindu origins of Hanaman, which then

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Speaker 2: of course are become important in Thai culture as well.

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Speaker 2: I was reading a book titled The Sacred Animals of

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Speaker 2: Hindu epic the Ramayana, in which Hanaman and his soldiers

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Speaker 2: king Ravana, the word copy is not used to describe

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Speaker 2: Hanaman and his soldiers. Instead, they are described as the Venara,

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Speaker 2: literally the forest men, the people of the forest.

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Speaker 3: Oh whoa, So is is it possible this is something

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Speaker 3: more like a bigfoot kind of creature that they have

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Speaker 2: I mean, I imagine there are some interpretations that may go

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Speaker 2: monkeys as kind of totem animals for the Vanara. So

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Speaker 2: the interpretation that Krishna is making in this book is

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Speaker 2: that perhaps the origins were like a like a people,

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Speaker 2: and perhaps they had as their emblem the monkey, or

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Speaker 2: perhaps they worshiped a deity that they had that monkey characteristics,

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Speaker 2: No, I mean not really, not to my eye anyway,

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Speaker 2: No, though, weirdly enough, you do see in some of

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Speaker 3: I see some strange symbolic parallels between El Santo and Samson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and actually it Hanaman reminds me a little bit

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that. Okay, So who are the

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Speaker 2: Okay, we have a couple of directors. First, there is

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Speaker 3: Okay, so this would be an example of what in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tokusatsu. So I guess you could say, like to

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Speaker 2: So both of these directors gave us this Hanaman movie,

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Speaker 2: So that brings us to the writer Boonzo wak Atsuki.

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Speaker 2: Starwolf Fugitive Alien, Fugitive Alien two. These were films that

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Speaker 2: the star of the excellent nineteen sixty seven assassin film

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Speaker 2: Branded to Kill all Right. What about the cast, Well,

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Speaker 3: Now, probably the most memorable human characters in this film

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, their names are shriep Polk and Shressuya I believe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And on IMDb at least, which has especially given

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Speaker 3: Oh well, they're even wearing white face paint in some scenes,

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Speaker 3: Oh, I remember her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's our connection to a previous film. The

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure?

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Speaker 2: mention the music. Toro Fuyuki did the music on this.

432
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: It's nothing really to write home about. It feels very

433
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: old fashioned and very you know, sort of cliche adventure music.

434
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 2: But this guy did a lot of Ultraman music. Also

435
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: Inframan from nineteen seventy five, which starred Danny Lee who

436
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: was in The Oily Maniac.

437
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 3: Or are you ready to get into the plot.

438
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 2: Let's get into the plot of this movie.

439
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 3: Okay, Now we start off with a once again a

440
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 3: beautiful film studio logo. I have to say, I've noticed

441
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: many times since we started doing Weird House Cinema that

442
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 3: I really love a lot of Asian film studio logos.

443
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: Love the Shaw Brothers logo, I love the Toho logo

444
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: of course, and I would say the Chaio Film Studio

445
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: here joins the list because it's just got these two

446
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 3: heavenly beasts, these kind of you know, like dragon tiger

447
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: type creatures cradling the studio name in a disk between

448
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 3: their paws while a kaleidoscopic supernova just roars behind them.

449
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: It is really gorgeous.

450
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's quite beautiful and eye catching and flows

451
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: nicely into the rest of the film because it's it's

452
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 2: not like we cut from this to just a city

453
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: street or anything.

454
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 3: Like.

455
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 2: We're right into the into the the the blinding, you know,

456
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 2: astrological world of the mythic cosmos.

457
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, the very first thing you see is the sun.

458
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 3: You are just right up in the Sun's business like

459
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: you're you know you're you can smell the Sun's breath.

460
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 3: And I also have to say a caveat on all

461
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 3: that follows. I can only judge the text content of

462
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 3: this film based on the English subtitles that I encountered,

463
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: which were maybe not professionally produced. I'm not sure so.

464
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 3: Of course, the quality of a film translation can vary

465
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 3: a lot, and any awkward qualities of the narration or

466
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 3: dialogue that I'm about to mention may well be a

467
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: result of the translation and not the film itself.

468
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, same here. I think we used the same

469
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 2: stream of this that had the imperfect subtitles, but it

470
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 2: was still an improvement over the original way I watched

471
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: this film, which was on a tie DVD that I

472
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: bought off of eBay, which had no subtitles, and I

473
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 2: just had kind of had to figure it out. I mean,

474
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 2: you can figure out most of this film by watching it.

475
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: It's not too deep. But there were a few things

476
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: that I just I had no idea how they were

477
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: supposed to have happened, and we'll get to those here

478
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: in a bit.

479
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 3: So the very beginning, I wonder if you have some

480
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: insights into you might have some astrological knowledge that I don't.

481
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: But the opening narration and it's showing us the Sun

482
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 3: and space and planets, and it says, in our universe

483
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 3: there is the Milky Way, the galaxy where our solar

484
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 3: system is encircling the Sun. Nine planets were born Wednesday, Mercury, Friday, Venus, Earth, Tuesday, Mars, Saturday, Saturn, Thursday, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto.

485
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 3: Do you know what's going on there with the days?

486
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: And maybe something's lost in translation.

487
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 2: I think it's perhaps a connection to Hindu astrology, Yeah okay, okay,

488
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: and the earlier associations of the of the planets.

489
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: Yeah okay, or like days of the week on which

490
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 3: these planets were created. Maybe I was wondering, but I'm

491
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 3: going to go with yours. And then next it tells

492
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: us three million light years away there is the ultra galaxy.

493
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: Now brief astronomy note here. I was like, wait a minute,

494
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 3: what could that be referring to? So the distance from

495
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 3: our galaxy to the next nearest galaxy, which is the

496
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 3: Andromeda galaxy, is about two point five million light years away,

497
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: So that's you know, pretty clear ballpark of three million

498
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: light years away. But the funny thing about that is

499
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 3: it won't always be that far away. While most galaxies

500
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: in the universe are moving farther and farther away from

501
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 3: each other as the universe expands, the Milky Way and

502
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: the Andromeda galaxies are actually on a collision course. They

503
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: will probably slam into each other at least pass nearby

504
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: one another within four to five billion years. So if

505
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: the Ultra galaxy is indeed the Andromeda Galaxy, then then

506
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: you know, maybe we'll get more ultraman movies a few

507
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 3: billion years from now as they get I don't know, closer,

508
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: and that reduces the required budget for recruiting them. But anyway,

509
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: the Narration then tells us that there are sixty nine

510
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: planets which circle around something called M seventy eight. Now,

511
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: at first I was like, is that supposed to refer

512
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: to Messia seventy eight, which is sometimes called M seventy eight.

513
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: I think it's probably not, because this, it turns out,

514
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 3: is a planet, and Messia seventy eight is a hazy

515
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: nebula within the Milky Way that's about sixteen hundred light

516
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: years away. So we learned from the Narration that M

517
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: seventy eight is a planet full of light and happiness

518
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: and quote, there were born the Ultras. They have extraordinary

519
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: powers and are extremely intelligent. They guarantee the piece of

520
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: the galaxies.

521
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: And the Ultras are of course, this is Ultra man

522
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: and his kin.

523
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 3: Yes, his mother and his brothers. And then while we're

524
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: being told this, we're getting a pan over the surface

525
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: of M seventy eight. But it looks like a wall

526
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: on the satellite of Love. It's just a big old

527
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: mess of bike reflectors glinting in the stage lights and

528
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: Greebols on the loose.

529
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of Greebels.

530
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good Greebels. It's also really funny because as

531
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: we're being told that they guarantee the piece of the galaxies,

532
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: we see a close up on one of the Ultraman masks,

533
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: which don't necessar saraily look benign, and they look somewhat

534
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 3: evil with orange eyes, and we hear a sound that

535
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: is kind of like rats shrieking in the darkness. It's

536
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: not the most piece of the galaxy sound audio visual

537
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: combination you could imagine.

538
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I guess it's a tough job at times.

539
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: I mean, clearly it involves combating monsters half the time.

540
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: Uh huh. But then we get more facts delivered by

541
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: the narration. So talking about M. Seventy eight, we learned

542
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: that piece is eternal. There, that's good. We also learned

543
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: that Ultraman Taro watches over the three hundred cities that

544
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: in the cities without sunlight, warmth is provided by nine

545
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: hundred heaters. I found these numbers very funny. Then we

546
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: also learned that Ultraman Taro teaches the Ultra brothers how

547
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: to fight that Ultraman Zaffi leads his brothers helped by

548
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: their mother. And then we meet Mother Ultra. And Mother

549
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: Ultra is awesome. She is just a grand slam. I

550
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 3: love her costume. I love her movement. She's got this

551
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: big red cape that opens like bat wings. She holds

552
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: it open kind of like the Master and Manos the

553
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: hands of Fate. And we see her framed by an

554
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: Aurora when we first meet her. She's just awesome.

555
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have even though again we have we have

556
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: sci fi like superhero robot people you know, colliding with

557
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: with actual gods here, the Ultra men, the Ultra folk here,

558
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: they do have a mythic quality to the way they're

559
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: presented that ultimately makes things feel like they fit together,

560
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: I feel cohesive.

561
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this comes back to, you know,

562
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: something we've talked about on the podcast before, on our

563
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 3: core episodes, which is that I'm not sure the distinction

564
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: between gods and aliens is something that would have been

565
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: quite so well distinct to say, ancient people as it

566
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: is to us, because I think the main distinction that

567
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 3: we make in the modern world between gods and alien

568
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: is whether you're talking about something that is natural or

569
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: something that is supernatural. And I don't think the natural

570
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: versus supernatural categories held as firmly in the ancient world,

571
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: where you know, to many ancient peoples, the gods would

572
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: be not necessarily supernatural, but something that's defined by sort

573
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: of being of another place, maybe a place above in

574
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: the stars or a kind of pure land or something,

575
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: and then also being extremely powerful or being immortal. And

576
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: so if you were, say an alien from another planet

577
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: who had amazingly powerful technology, that I mean that seems

578
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: basically almost the same as being a god.

579
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

580
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely, But then we get an origin. So then we

581
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: cut straight from the ultras to an origin story for

582
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 3: Hanuman this all just sort of blends together. It's as

583
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: if it's all part of the same epic cycle.

584
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: So it has always been.

585
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: Yes, So you go so straight from the epica origins

586
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: of the Ultras. We go to narration that ten thousand

587
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 3: years ago King Panela was raining in India and you

588
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: see natural disasters. There's wind and black clouds blowing rocks

589
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: over the ground and tree limbs snapping in the wind,

590
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: water swirling, and the narration tells us that it was

591
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 3: under his reign that Hanuman was born from Ajana, pregnant

592
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: from the god of the Wind. And we see her

593
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 3: dressed in a splendorous outfit and a red sky background,

594
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: and there's wind being generated by the wind god and

595
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: she just vacuums it up into her mouth.

596
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. And this, by the way, is why Hanuman can fly,

597
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: because he is the offspring in part of the wind.

598
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then there's there's a very psychedelic birth sequence

599
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: for Hanuman. He's like, I don't know, again, it's very

600
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 3: experimental film. It has these dog star man like textures

601
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: and and Hanuman flies out of the ether toward the

602
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: camera with a fist extended. Then I guess that's all okay,

603
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: dust off the hands. Background round is done. Time to

604
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 3: roll the credits over, which plays an original theme song

605
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: about Hanuman, which I love it. I love it. It's like

606
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 3: green slime time, you know, green slime. Every sci fi

607
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 3: fantasy movie should get its own original theme song with

608
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: lyrics about the plot.

609
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is a great song. I think we

610
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: probably heard part of it in the trailer audio earlier.

611
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: It just it has, you know, even even though you

612
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 2: know I, you know, I don't speak Thai, the Thai

613
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: language has this wonderful cadence to it, which which works

614
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: perfectly in songs like this.

615
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 3: Let's get another clip.

616
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: Of that.

617
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: On pub one on okay, I want to cite some

618
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 3: lyrics of this song. Again. This is according to the

619
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: translation that I had access to, So this is the

620
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: best I could do. It says that Hanuman is invincible

621
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: with his incandescent trident. I don't know if I remember

622
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: a trident. Oh well, he's got his slicing weapon at

623
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 3: the Yeah, it looks.

624
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: Like a sigh what we might think of as a sigh,

625
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: and that's traditionally Yeah.

626
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, I buy it. Now we learned

627
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 3: that he is immortal he is the Master of the

628
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: Wind against five monsters he fights aided by the seven Ultras.

629
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: Before a fight, he prays, that's why he is invincible. Uh.

630
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 3: And then finally the lyrics say, Hanuman and seven Ultramen

631
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: watch this great movie.

632
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: Yes, there there are, there are some. I don't know

633
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 2: how much of it is the translation, but this would

634
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: be a couple of one of a couple of places

635
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: in the movie where they seem to be breaking the

636
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: fourth wall, like there's a part with the narrations like, hey,

637
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: this is our protagonist.

638
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, that happened. In fact, that happens almost immediately.

639
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 3: We meet a boy named Co who is at a

640
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: ruined temple with many other children, and they're praying and

641
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 3: dancing and playing music in order to get the gods

642
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 3: to make it rain because the earth is very hot

643
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the movie, like the sun is

644
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 3: too close to the earth and it's very dry and

645
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 3: very hot and they need rain to cool the earth off.

646
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 3: So they're doing these rituals. And when we very first

647
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: meet Co, he's dancing around in a Hanuman mask, and

648
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: the narration just says, this is the protagonist. Yes, yeah,

649
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 3: But actually, before we meet Co. The first human characters

650
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: we meet are the clowns we were talking about earlier.

651
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: We see two dudes who were they're off roading in

652
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 3: a truck or a jeep or something that is spewing

653
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 3: these wonderful pink fumes, and they are wearing really good jumpsuits.

654
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: They're kind of Mario Super Mario Brother colors. They're red

655
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: and blue with white stripes. And their truck breaks down.

656
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: They're having car trouble and that turns into a bunch

657
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 3: of high jinks and tumbling around. And after they fail

658
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: to get their cars started and it spews a bunch

659
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: of smoke all over the place, they run away from

660
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 3: it and the car explodes, and then they laugh and

661
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: they dance. And I don't know if this is correct,

662
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: but in the version I was watching, there's a subtitle

663
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: annotation telling us that they are dancing like Hanuman in

664
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 3: order to receive better luck, though I don't know what

665
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 3: their luck could be now that their car has exploded.

666
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure either, but man, they are, Yeah,

667
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: they are. They are clowning hard in this, in this

668
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 2: scene and all subsequent scenes.

669
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: Yes, And so we get more about how hot the

670
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 3: sun is like they witness birds falling out of the

671
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: sky on fire and smoking because the sun is so hot.

672
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 3: And so the two clown characters here, they run around

673
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: chattering and they're doing like monkey like dances and talking

674
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 3: about how hot they are and how they need water.

675
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: And I think the implication is that their car exploded

676
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 3: because it was so hot outside.

677
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: Yes, I think so.

678
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: Eventually the two clown guys shed their their awesome jumpsuits,

679
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: which is which is sad, but they shed them because

680
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 3: they see a river that they want to swim in

681
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 3: to cool off. So they take off the jumpsuits, run

682
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 3: and jump in the water. They're wearing like one piece

683
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: bathing suits under their jumpsuits. Interesting choice. But then while

684
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: they're enjoying the water, they explain that someone named doctor

685
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: we Suit has invented a way to make it rain

686
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: and so everything's going to be okay, And the narrator

687
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 3: tells us that these two guys are in fact famous pilots. Yeah,

688
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: and they do some really good camera mooning and such.

689
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: But we learn more about doctor Weesuit's plan that he's

690
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: going to shoot some rockets into the sky that are

691
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 3: going to make it rain and cool off. The world,

692
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: and so we go to doctor Wezut's lab to learn

693
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 3: about his plan. His lab set is really awesome. It's

694
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: part sort of green slime type set, you know, standard

695
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 3: sci fi rivets everywhere, but also it's part dangerous nineteen

696
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 3: seventies playground with metal equipment, which is my favorite kind

697
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: of playground.

698
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really splendid to behold.

699
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: Like the background really should have a rusty swing set

700
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: and a slide that just has blood all over it.

701
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 3: You know, it's like a lawsuit factory playground. But there's

702
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 3: an argument between doctor Weesuit and another character somebody else

703
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 3: who works in the lab named Melissa about whether they

704
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: need to ask the angels for rain in addition to

705
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: their rocket plan. Melisa is like, hey, you know, I

706
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 3: think we should appeal to the gods. That would be

707
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 3: a good idea, and doctor we Suit is like, no,

708
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: it is foolish to believe in the gods. Hanuman does

709
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: not exist, and I will not ask him for rain

710
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 3: because I am arrogant. So some very heavy handed science

711
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 3: versus religion stuff. Yeah, and then meanwhile, back at the

712
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: temple where the children are dancing and praying for rain.

713
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: Of course, all the dancing goes on, but some bad

714
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 3: guys show up. There are these ruthless thieves who appear

715
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 3: in a jeep and want to steal a precious idol

716
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: from the temple complex. So they up to a statue

717
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 3: of the Buddha and start chopping its head off, saying

718
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: soon we will be rich.

719
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is yeah, this is just super low, Like,

720
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 2: this is highly frowned upon. I mean, and we don't

721
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: you don't even need to be told that. Obviously they're

722
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: they're messing around with with on sacred grounds. But yeah,

723
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: to rip the head off of a statue like this

724
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: on temple grounds just the lowest of the low. And

725
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: our hero instantly realizes this.

726
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he sees what they're doing. He catches the thieves

727
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 3: in the act, and CO tries to stop them. They

728
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 3: fight him off. In fact, this goes there's a long

729
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: sequence of him chasing the thieves around and then like

730
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: kicking him to the ground, and every he's really insistent,

731
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: he keeps getting back up. That's perseverance, you know, he's

732
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 3: going to fight for that Buddha head. And eventually the

733
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 3: robbers they have enough of CO and they just straight

734
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 3: up shoot him in the face.

735
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, like three shots and then I mean, it's not

736
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: too graphic. It is a little surprising. When I watched

737
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 2: it for the first time, I'm like, oh my god,

738
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: that just happened. But you know, to be clear, it's

739
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 2: just like three gunshots and then suddenly he has red

740
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 2: paint smeared on his face and he's dead.

741
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 3: Yes, so the way it actually looks in the movie

742
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 3: is kind of benign and comical, but conceptual. Yes, they

743
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: shoot a child in the face. That is what kicks

744
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 3: off the rest of the plot. So Co is dead.

745
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 3: He's lying there dead in the road as the robbers

746
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: escape with their booty and the children. They come to

747
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 3: see their friend. He's been killed and they start to

748
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 3: hold a funeral for him. And then meanwhile on planet

749
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: M seventy eight, the mother of Ultra gathers her six

750
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: sons and ooh, it is bad news for those thieves

751
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 3: because the Ultras saw what you did. They so they

752
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 3: reason about this. Here's how it goes. Co was good,

753
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: thieves are bad, so they deem this instance of shooting

754
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: a person in the face unfair. And then we learn

755
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 3: that the Mother of Ultra transports Ko's body to the

756
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: planet M seventy eight and then quote the Ultras merge

757
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: his body with Hanuman, so Co will be able to

758
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 3: return to Earth as an avenger.

759
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 2: Okay, So on one hand, I'm not entirely sure why

760
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: Earth is under the jurisdiction of seventy eight, but fair

761
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: enough the other thing like this, So this whole bit

762
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: about how the boy Co becomes Hanamon, or to what

763
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: extent he becomes Hanaman, I was always unclear about this

764
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 2: watching it without any translations. I'm still unclear unclear about

765
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: it with a translation. So I guess it's like, because

766
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: Hanaman exists, Hanaman has a reality, it pre exists, and

767
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: yet somehow they are stepping in and allowing Hanaman to

768
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: return to Earth by fusing him with Koe's body. So

769
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 2: there's some sort of the metaphysics on it are a

770
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: little foggy, is what I'm saying.

771
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: Well, at one point, one of Ko's friends explains the

772
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: situation by saying Co is dead, but he became Hanuman. Okay,

773
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: I'm I'm not sure, So I don't know to what

774
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 3: extent he's still Co, but to some extent he is. Yeah. Anyway,

775
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: So the form that the mother of Ultra's intervention takes here,

776
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 3: is that a giant hand reaches out of the sky

777
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: at Coe's funeral, picks him up, takes his body to

778
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: the altar of the Ultramen, turns him into Hanuman. And

779
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: then we see Hanuman flying over cities in Thailand in

780
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 3: that iconic pose, you know, so upright, sort of posed

781
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 3: with the arms in the air, just zooming around over landmarks.

782
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I think the ruins are in Ayuthia. And

783
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: then we see Hanuman flying over what I believe is Bangkok,

784
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: and I think even flies over that the Royal Palace

785
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 2: that I was mentioning earlier that has the fabulous murals.

786
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: I think that's one of the locations you see him

787
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: fly over.

788
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: And there were like reports there are sightings of Hanuman

789
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: flying around because in doctor Weizut's lab, Melissa receives the reports.

790
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: She's like, hey, they're saying Hanuman was sighted flying through

791
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: the sky and we suit his smug and dismissive and

792
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: he's like, Hanuman does not exist. That is foolishness. I

793
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 3: only need science. And then we get a bunch more

794
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 3: lore that I really enjoyed. It feels mostly superfluous to

795
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: the rest of the film, but we get the legend

796
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: of fra Rahm and his brother Frau Loch. So Frau Loc,

797
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 3: we find out, fought against the demon thought Sakhon, and

798
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 3: he was wounded by a lance. And because a wise

799
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: man had said that only the sap of the flower Sangkon,

800
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 3: which was found on the mountain of Sapaya, could heal

801
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 3: Frauloc Hanuman had to go looking for this flower. But

802
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 3: he is warned by the sage that the flower must

803
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 3: be plucked before sunrise, and so in order to get

804
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: it before sunri he has to slow down the Sun's cart.

805
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 3: So there's some drama with the sun cart driver. We

806
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: see Hanuman going up to the guy who basically, you know,

807
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: like the Sun, the driver of the Sun, and the

808
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: Sun agrees to slow down because Frau Loc is a

809
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: saint who must fight a demon to maintain the universe.

810
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: And then there's a long scene where Hanuman chases the

811
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 3: flower around the mountain. They seem to kind of be

812
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 3: flirting with each other. The sequence is very good and

813
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: it has more of that psychedelic imagery. Ultimately, Hanuman wins

814
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 3: this chase by tying up the mountain with his tail

815
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 3: and he gets the flower.

816
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's this whole sequence is just like a marvelous

817
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: fever dream. But to your point, I'm not exactly sure

818
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: why it was necessary. It's nice, it's yeah, it's great,

819
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 2: and it's about our main character Hanuman, but I don't

820
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: know if it was super necessary for what is a

821
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 2: rather long movie about gods and Kaiji.

822
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not complaining. I will take this sequence. I

823
00:45:58,719 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: want it left in.

824
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, it's good.

825
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: Don't streamline it for me anyway. So Co after this

826
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: returns to stop the thieves. The thieves are they're in

827
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 3: their car with the stolen buddhahead and they're like, haha,

828
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 3: we're going to get some money for this. We're going

829
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 3: to sell it for a crime. And then they're driving

830
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: along the road and then suddenly, standing in the road

831
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 3: in fact dancing is Co the boy Ko who they

832
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 3: shot in the face, and they're like, what is this?

833
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: Is this a ghost? You know? They start freaking out

834
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 3: and they shoot at him. They empty their guns into

835
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: him to no effect, and then Koe goes into Hanuman mode.

836
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 3: He changes into Hanuman form and becomes gigantic and just

837
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: brutally murders the three thieves brutally murders them with a

838
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 3: preference for gory, crushing deaths, like one of them he

839
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 3: stomps on. One of them, he knocks over a tree

840
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 3: on and that guy gets crushed in is all bloody.

841
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 3: And then the last guy he grabs and crushes in

842
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 3: his hand like a can.

843
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: That one I love because he's also kind of nodding.

844
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: Holly does it as if he's acknowledging us the viewer

845
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: and saying, yep, yep, I'm crushing him in my hand.

846
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: Like there's kind of like a monkey's zeal to the vengeance.

847
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: Yes, And there's also this bniacal like Hanuman talks, you know,

848
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: he says like while he's chasing them around, we get

849
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 3: at least the subtitles I saw where haha, you're all

850
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: going to die. You cut Buddha's head, and after the

851
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 3: three thieves are crushed, the buddhahead magically returns to the

852
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: statue where it began. So next, now that he's sated

853
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: his thirst for bloody revenge, Hanuman has to fix the

854
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 3: sun right He's he's going to protect Earth, so he

855
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 3: flies up to the sun and much like earlier, so

856
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 3: I guess here's one way it connects. You know, previously

857
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 3: he has talked to the Sun into slowing down. Now

858
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: he flies up and he tells the Son. He's like,

859
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 3: you're too close to Earth. Your flames are too strong.

860
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: You need to back up. And the Sun says okay,

861
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: and the problem is solved. Hanuman convinced, says the Sun

862
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 3: to back off, and seems like things should be okay.

863
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: Now the movie should be over. It's only been about

864
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: forty minutes. So something's got to happen. And incomes the

865
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: evil atheistic science to step in and ruin things. So

866
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: doctor Weizut and his rocket plan to cause rain. This

867
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: leads to a fiasco. There's a long sequence in the

868
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 3: middle of the movie here where rockets start malfunctioning and

869
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: blowing everything up and whoops, the explosions of the godless

870
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: science rockets open up cracks in the earth and release

871
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: ancient demons. And now you know what. The rest of

872
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 3: the movie is going to be a good old fashioned

873
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: kaiju meat slam, some some foam costume suplexes and Frankensteiner's

874
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: and here it's just basically monster action for the rest

875
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: of the movie.

876
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's pretty great. Like I say, you might

877
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: come into a film like this thinking, wow, you know,

878
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: I'm a Godzilla fan, I'm a Gammerer fan, and if

879
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: you hie, hold those particular films in high regard. But

880
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 2: this is some some fabulous monster wailing.

881
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there are a lot of monsters. Five of

882
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 3: them wake up and they're running all over the place.

883
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 3: They're dancing in the rocket fields. That's a great but

884
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 3: again it's very dance oriented kind of fighting. Yeah, they're

885
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 3: almost There are parts where it looks kind of like

886
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 3: the demons are doing the dugie. And so there there's

887
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: first the classic human forces versus the giant monsters. That

888
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 3: doesn't go so well for the humans. They send in

889
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 3: the air force and the monsters breathe jets of fire

890
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 3: on the airplanes and wreck them and so forth. And

891
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: then we get another phase of the movie that is

892
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: Hanuman to the Rescue Hanuman versus Demons. At first, Hanuman

893
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: is doing pretty well, but then all the demons gang

894
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 3: up on him and he starts getting whipped and they

895
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 3: paralyze him inside a crystal laser ball. And then there's

896
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 3: a big third phase of the fight where the Ultramen

897
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: show up and then the Ultramen join on Hanuman's side

898
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 3: the Tides, and yet again we get a classic destroy

899
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 3: all Monsters command and uh Rob, I was wondering if

900
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 3: is there a term for this in professional wrestling, where like,

901
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 3: you know, the fights between this guy and that guy

902
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 3: and it's not going so well for the likable character,

903
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 3: but then another one runs into the rescue.

904
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: I mean it's a run in? Is the terminology for it?

905
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

906
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so basically this would be this would be, you know,

907
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: a run in where Hanaman is getting handled again it's

908
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: five to one, yeah, but now it's it's soon going

909
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: to be what eight to five? And one of the

910
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: things that's very noticeable is that either side, either the

911
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 2: Monsters or Ultra the Ultramen and in Hanaman, neither side

912
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: is afraid to use the numbers game to their advantage.

913
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're not going to insist on on Neither

914
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: side is going to insist on fair numbers and fair fights.

915
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 2: If it's like four to one, it's going to be

916
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: a four to one whaling.

917
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, to use the wrestling terminology and pardon my friend,

918
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 3: but there are several cans of whoop ass that are opened. Yes,

919
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 3: they so the monsters gang up on Hanuman and they're

920
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 3: all just like pushing him around. It looks very they're

921
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: bullying him, and that makes sense. They're demons, they're from

922
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 3: the earth. They're bad monsters. But then the same thing

923
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 3: happens when the Ultramen show up. The Ultramen. You really

924
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 3: start kind of feeling bad for the monsters the way

925
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 3: they gang up on them. And then there is a

926
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 3: really beautiful final slicing action on the last big monster

927
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 3: at the end. I just loved.

928
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is the one where they they cut

929
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: him in half and then he explodes.

930
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 3: He has cloven and then he explodes.

931
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: Oh and they ripped the skin off of another one. Yeah,

932
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: that's another one where they they Again this is it's

933
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: very in a way grotesque, and to this to a

934
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: certain extent, you do almost feel for the monsters, like,

935
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: oh man, these demons woke up because of an explosion.

936
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: They woke up out of our earth, and they just thought

937
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 2: they were going to get to wail on the world.

938
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 2: Turns out they were in for a very bad day.

939
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: But it's a good day for the audience. I mean,

940
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed this one so so I think that

941
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 3: that does it for me? That's Hanuman versus seven Ultramen.

942
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, you know, there we could go

943
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 2: into more detail describing the the last thirty minutes of

944
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 2: the film, but basically a lot of the expected things

945
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 2: from the genre occur. You know, various humans are observing

946
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: the battle and reacting to the battle in different ways,

947
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 2: more clown behavior, the you know, the scientist villain is

948
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: observing and learning his lesson that sort of thing. And

949
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: then we have some goodbyes said at the end. But

950
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 2: but yeah, the stuff that really stands out those those

951
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: psychedelic and mythological sequences, the final fight, and also I

952
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: think it's just neat to see, you know, especially the ruins,

953
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,479
Speaker 2: the Tay Ruins in the background there. It just adds

954
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 2: to the flavor of the film.

955
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. I really appreciated the Ruins in setting up the

956
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 3: fights as well. Thought I thought that was good. Yeah,

957
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 3: it's maybe this is the closest thing we'll ever get

958
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 3: to see to like, you know, a Kaiju at angor watt.

959
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's yeah, ultimately, just this one's just packed

960
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 2: full of wonderful weirdness. I love it and I understand

961
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 2: it was it was it was something of a hit

962
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: at the time and really helped to cement the Ultramen

963
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: as being like a franchise in Thailand, you know, because

964
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: the Ultraman I think ultimately we're sort of a Japanese import,

965
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: but this made them, you know, authentically tie to a

966
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: large degree.

967
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 3: Do you know if the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers were

968
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 3: inspired by the Ultramen because I see some similarities in

969
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 3: the costumes and all that.

970
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I would imagine so, given that some of

971
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: the same people were involved in the creation of the

972
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 2: show that became The Power Rangers.

973
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think. I don't know really anything about

974
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 3: the history of the Power Rangers. Was that the Japanese show.

975
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: First, Yes, Japanese show Super Sindai I believe, yeah, and

976
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: some of the people involved in this film were involved

977
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: in that. But basically you just stripped out the human

978
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: aspects of that and replaced them with that with Western

979
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: actors and have the Mighty morphin Power Rangers.

980
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: I see. Yeah, you might not have been in the

981
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 3: right age group, but when you were a kid, did

982
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: you ever have the flute that would play the Green

983
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: Ranger song?

984
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 2: I did not. I remember Power Rangers. I was not

985
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 2: too old to enjoy Power Rangers. So I remember having

986
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 2: it on and watching some of it and liking the

987
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: bad guys, but I never had any merchandise from it.

988
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 2: I think maybe I played one of the video games

989
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: at some point.

990
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 3: I remember really liking the monsters, but also noticing, even

991
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 3: as a child that the structure of the episodes was

992
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 3: somewhat repetitive. Yeah, though, I guess you could say that

993
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 3: about the kaiju movies that I love today. In fact,

994
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 3: many of the genre movies I love today, which are

995
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 3: basically structurally identical, and it's just you know, whatever fur

996
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 3: you're going to rub in between those checkpoints in the plot.

997
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but especially if it's a TV series and every

998
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 2: episode needs to essentially have a big monster battle at

999
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: the end, you know they're all going to have sort

1000
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 2: of similar beats for sure.

1001
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 3: So really it's all about the fur. What does the

1002
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 3: fur feel like? Insert from the future. I don't know

1003
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 3: if we can run some kind of weird house specific

1004
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 3: siren there, So here we're coming back at you. This

1005
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: was not originally part of the episode we recorded, but

1006
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 3: after we wrapped up our wonderful journey with Hanuman and

1007
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 3: the Ultramen, Rob you were kind of thinking about it,

1008
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 3: and you're like, you know what, we should talk more

1009
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 3: about some of the specific Kaiju beat down executions toward

1010
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: the end of the film. So here's our makeup test.

1011
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: That's right, because you know, we like to dwell on

1012
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 2: what really works in a film, and certainly Hanaman's brutal

1013
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 2: executions of Kaiju that's what it's all about here. So

1014
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: we can't just let this go by. We've got to

1015
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: get into the grizzly details.

1016
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 3: Okay, let's hear it all right.

1017
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 2: So one of the Kaiju is just kind of electrocuted,

1018
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 2: slash exploded, nothing fancy, but in a way it's perfect because,

1019
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: especially if you're used to less gory treatment of your

1020
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: Kaiju enemies cinema, this seems like, oh, well, this is

1021
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: just what's going to happen. You know, there's going to

1022
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 2: be some rubber suit wrestling and there's going to be

1023
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 2: some mild exploding or electrocution. The rest of the kills

1024
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: are a lot more gory.

1025
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of slicing and use of blades,

1026
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 3: which I have not come to expect in Kaiju Meet slams.

1027
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 2: Right, So for two of the sort of nondescript kaiju,

1028
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: and I think they all have names in this. I've

1029
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: seen like breakdowns where they each have a name, but

1030
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what these two are called. Hanaman uses

1031
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 2: his trident to fling chakrum discs of pure light at them,

1032
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: which cut off their arms and de capitate them both simultaneously,

1033
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 2: So then their bodies run around with bloody stumps where

1034
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 2: their arms and head. Once where they run around, they

1035
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 2: bump into each other comically for a few seconds, and

1036
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 2: then they just kind of lean against each other again,

1037
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 2: headless and armless, and then they explode.

1038
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 3: That's kind of a hyper bloody three stooges bit.

1039
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then there's this other kaiju looking our way

1040
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 2: up the chain. There's this neat one that kind of

1041
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: has what I think of its kind of like a

1042
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: dirpy head. Do you remember this guy? I think so, Yeah,

1043
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: he's definitely more of a fighter. He's really put in

1044
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,720
Speaker 2: the boots to one of the Ultras. When Hanaman jumps

1045
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: in gets the hot tag and so he stabs this

1046
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 2: kaiju in the heart with the trident, and then while

1047
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: the while the other when the Ultra holds him, Hanaman

1048
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: puts the monster in a headlock and then pulls the

1049
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: flesh off of the kaijuw's head, leaving only a perfectly

1050
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: white skull setting atop his body.

1051
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 3: Very very strong. Why do we never see the skin

1052
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 3: head ripping move in the in real wrestling? I mean,

1053
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 3: like if rowdy Roddy Piper had had peeled the had

1054
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 3: like d gloved a head, that would be a popular

1055
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 3: finishing move.

1056
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's hard. I mean the closest thing,

1057
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 2: of course, is unmasking of a luchador. But and now

1058
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: you have the reverse where their mask is a skull,

1059
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: their face is just a human face. You're you're you're

1060
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: you're stealing you know, the divine or the macabre from

1061
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: the normal human. But in this case, yeah, you're just

1062
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: ripping the skin off a monster's skull. But they're not

1063
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: done with this guy yet. Hanaman and the Ultra they

1064
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: go ahead and they just pull on both arms of

1065
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 2: the sky and they rip the flesh off of the arms, leaving,

1066
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 2: you know, leaving just like skeleton there as well. Then

1067
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: the Kaiju flails and pain for a second, and then

1068
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 2: Hanaman uses his wind power to create a vortex around

1069
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: the Kaiju, pulling off the rest of its flesh, leaving

1070
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: only a skeleton, which then is like sort of stands

1071
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Speaker 2: like a kind of like a marionette for a few

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Speaker 2: seconds before just toppling into a pile of bones.

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Speaker 3: It's very wily, Coyote is Yeah. Yeah, once you notice

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Speaker 3: the physics, then they then they apply.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, So at this point, we have one Kaiju left,

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Speaker 2: and it's the big horned Kaiju with the rainbow powers,

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Speaker 2: the one that I believe is it actually was the

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Speaker 2: one that was able to sort of freeze Hanaman inside

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Speaker 2: of a sphere before the other Ultras were able to

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Speaker 2: come and save him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the crystal lays that gets him frozen. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He also has the power to block out the

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Speaker 2: sun with smoke clouds, so he starts unleashing just untold destruction.

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Speaker 2: So Haniman and all seven Ultras gang up on him

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Speaker 2: and they just beat him down.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's really bullying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not pretty. At one point, the monster's trying

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00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: to crawl away, like they've beat him down so much

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Speaker 2: that he's just trying to crawl to safety, and the

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Speaker 2: Ultras grab him and Haniman like just beats him with

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Speaker 2: a club. At one point he rallies. He throws a

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Speaker 2: boulder at the Ultras, but they use Hanaman uses the

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00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: club to bash it back to him like they're playing baseball,

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Speaker 2: and then hits the Kaiju in the head. And so

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Speaker 2: finally Hanaman creates a laser crescent with his staff and

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Speaker 2: then cuts the Kaiju cleanly and half vertically, and then

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Speaker 2: the Kaiju explodes in a shower of sparks.

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Speaker 3: I think this is the one finishing move that I

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Speaker 3: did mention previously, the cleaving in half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the big that's the big violent.

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Speaker 3: Finish, tremendous power, all honoring glory to Hanaman.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So a little more detail about the closing here. Inclosing,

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01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: Hanaman and the Ultrus say they're goodbyes. Then Hanaman says

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Speaker 2: goodbye to the human characters. Then Hanaman flies off into

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Speaker 2: the sunset, and then the film ends with the director

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Speaker 2: narrating thanking the viewer for having watched.

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Speaker 3: The film, and I say, you're welcome.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I guess we'll go ahead and close

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Speaker 2: this one out, but we'd love to hear from everyone

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Speaker 2: out there, for instance, that you know, have have you

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Speaker 2: seen any Ultramen films before? Had you seen Hannaman versus

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Speaker 2: seven Ultraman before. Have you seen the other Ultraman Hanaman

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Speaker 2: team up movie? We'd love to hear from you. I'd

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Speaker 2: also love to hear from anyone who who actually saw

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Speaker 2: these in Thailand or has a you know, more of

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Speaker 2: a connection to Thai culture and can speak to some

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Speaker 2: of those aspects of the film, like what is this

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Speaker 2: film's prevalence in Thai cinema? How about some of those

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Speaker 2: other titles we mentioned the Japanese or Thai films did?

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Speaker 2: Are you familiar with any of those? Should? Should we

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Speaker 2: seek out the Unbalanced our Theater? I'm not sure we

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Speaker 2: could find it if we did seek it out. It

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Speaker 2: looks it looks like it's a little hard to get.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, we'd love to hear from everyone about any.

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Speaker 3: Of these topics. Yeah, definitely, especially Yeah, please tie listeners,

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Speaker 3: let us know your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: interesting film huge things.

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