WEBVTT - Maria Theresa Kumar & Garrett Graff 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:04.200 Hi, I'm Mollie John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:07.160 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:08.559 today's best minds. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.040 We're on vacation, but that doesn't mean we don't have 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.000 a great show for you today. Voter Latino President Maria 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:17.200 Teresa Kumar steps by to talk to us about organizing 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:20.360 Hispanic voters. But first we have the author of When 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.040 the c Came Alive in Oral History of D Day, 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:24.200 Garrett Graf. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.520 Welcome back to Fast Politics, Gart. 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:29.040 Graft, thank you so much for having me. 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.559 Garrett. Why is D Day relevant to where we are 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:33.040 right now? 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:37.920 I think last week's events in Normandy felt so poignant 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:42.879 to the country because it's not just the eightieth anniversary 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.440 of D Day, it's also in many ways the final 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:51.280 passing of the greatest generation. And you know, we saw 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:55.160 last week just how few of those veterans are left. 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.400 You know, on D Day there were a million Allied 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:02.920 personnel in movie movement across England and the English Channel. 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.680 There are just a few thousand of them left. Great 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.600 Britain estimates that there are just six living D Day 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:14.360 veterans left in England and Great Britain. The reason that 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:17.440 that sort of matters to us right now, and why 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.800 we feel it so deeply is that this is the 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:27.240 generation that you know, stood up against fascism and authoritarianism, 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:31.039 you know, saved Western democracies, you know, preserved the freedom 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:35.040 in the Second World War. And there has never been 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:41.440 a major anniversary of D Day where democracy has felt 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.800 so fraught and fragile in the world, both in Europe 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:49.880 where we have a land war going on, as you know, 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:55.120 Russia tries to end freedom in Europe's second largest country. 0:01:55.480 --> 0:02:00.120 Then here at home, where we're I think really struggling 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:03.120 with this question of what are we here at home 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.400 in the United States going to do with the legacy 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:10.040 that that greatest generation delivered for us. Are we as 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:14.919 willing now to fight for democracy here in the United 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.760 States as that generation was to fight in World War Two? 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:23.040 Yeah. One of the things about that speech at point 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.360 to Hall is that it's a speech that every president 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:30.520 has done, or every modern president has done. It is, 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.639 with the exception of probably Donald Trump, because of course, 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.800 can you explain to us why that speech is significant? 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.919 And I know, what I think was very interesting about 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:44.239 last week was that Biden, I think successfully made an 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.320 homage to Reagan, because the idea here is that Biden 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.160 is closer to Reagan than Trump is to Reagan. Now, 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.880 if you're on the left like Jesse and I, we 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:56.200 don't love Reagan, but the idea that MAGA is its 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.560 own special thing is a pretty disturbing notion. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:01.800 Talk to us about that, yeah, and I think you're 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.720 absolutely right. Which is part of what was remarkable in 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:08.800 this political moment was watching Biden give that speech at 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:12.280 Point to Hawk and realizing, you know, in many ways 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:16.000 it is the same type of speech, the same version 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.679 of the speech that Ronald Reagan did for the fortieth 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.320 anniversary in nineteen eighty four. That's, of course, the super 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:26.640 famous Peggy Noonan's speech, right that I think begins the 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:32.840 transformation of D Day from history into American legend. And 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.640 you stand there at Point to Hawk, you know, it 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:41.160 is this moment of incredible bravery and heroism the two 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:45.560 hundred and twenty American rangers who landed at the foot 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:50.040 of those one hundred foot cliffs then scaled the cliffs 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:54.240 to disable and capture a German gun battery in the 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.560 opening hour of D Day. That in many ways is 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:01.560 you know, one of the few central legends or even 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.840 mythologies of D Day. I think what stands out for 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:10.080 me in listening to Biden's speech was that Reagan could 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:13.880 have given that speech forty years ago, and Biden today 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:18.279 could have given Reagan's speech from forty years ago. What 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:22.520 has changed is all of the political context around them. 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:26.960 You know, in some ways that speech feels like it 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:31.640 should be the opening ante of American patriotism, you know, 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:36.479 like we will stand up to defend democracy and freedom 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:41.479 against authoritarianism. That feels like the most basic pledge of 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:45.559 civic virtue that a president can make. And he didn't 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:50.080 have to mention anywhere by name in his speech, Donald 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:54.720 Trump to know the contrast that he was drawing in 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:58.080 Normandy last week by standing up and laying out such 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:05.200 basic civic principles and honoring men that fought to defend freedom. 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.640 One of the things I write about it in the 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.599 book is, you know, it's an oral history, so it 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:16.000 brings together seven hundred voices from across D Day and 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.919 that conflict to try to tell the story of D 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.599 Day in the first person. And one of the things 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:26.280 that really comes through is the D Day invasion is 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:31.600 among the most noble causes humans have ever fought. It 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:37.400 is an invasion, unlike almost any other invasion in human history, 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:42.200 an invasion launched not to seize or to conquer, but 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.680 to liberate. You know, this was the Allies of the 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:50.320 West coming together to try to free a continent from 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:55.080 Nazi fascism. Again, that doesn't seem like that should be 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:59.920 that revolutionary of a cause for a president to endorse, 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.479 but there is to be always this like very telling 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:09.720 moment in Maga politics where basically any time any president 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:17.520 or political figure calls out for decency, honoring freedom and 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:23.039 American pie, Maga feels guilty because they know that the 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:27.960 contrast is being drawn against them and in contrast to them. 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:33.080 To me, like the most remarkable part of Biden's homage 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.479 at Point to Hawk last week was everyone in the 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:42.919 world understood the incredibly basic contrast he was drawing, even 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:47.600 though it should be, I would argue, the most simple 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.880 thing in the world for an American president to endorse. 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.919 Yeah, so everybody is dead from D Day because they 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.720 would be like one hundred and five, right. 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.200 Yeah, you know, there were a lot of soldiers there 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.719 eight nineteen years old. You know, that's a big part 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.040 of the World War Two story is how much of 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:12.080 that war was fought by incredibly young Americans eager to 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.360 sign up and fight people who were falsifying their birth 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.560 certificates in order to get over there when they were 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:22.280 sixteen seventeen years old. I think it speaks to that 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:26.720 age of civic virtue and the contrast now that we feel, 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:30.040 I think so uncomfortable with of you know, are we 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.240 as willing to defend this moment in democracy as that 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:37.520 generation was back then. But even those people are in 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:41.080 their late nineties or you know, turning one hundred right now. 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:44.280 Can you explain to us a little bit about what 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:50.640 the sort of lessons of D Day are like how 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:54.400 Biden can use that to speak to voters. Yeah. 0:07:54.560 --> 0:08:00.080 I think it is this very simple contrast, which is 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:05.480 is there is one American political tradition, Donald Trump and 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:10.280 Maga stand outside of it. And you know the fact 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:15.560 that forty four of forty five presidents can stand up 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:21.040 and give the same speech that Reagan gave at point 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:24.680 to Hawk and Donald Trump can't is the contrast. And 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:26.840 then you know, you sort of saw Biden follow it 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:30.880 up by going to visit that World War One cemetery 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.760 that Donald Trump didn't bother going to visit when he 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:38.880 was in Europe as president because he said, you know, 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.320 he thought it was filled by losers, the people who 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:48.000 had actually been killed. He doesn't understand why people would 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.120 sign up to fight in the military, you know, as 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:53.479 he has said, what's in it for them? The idea 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:57.840 that there is ever any cause greater than sort of 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.920 self aggrandizement and self gratific And it is just something 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.960 that Donald Trump, you know, mentally and intellectually is unable 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.000 to wrap his mind around. Again, this is like one 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:11.439 of the most basic traditions of American politics and one 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.880 of the most basic civic traditions that we celebrate and 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:19.360 honor as a country. And Donald Trump couldn't be bothered 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.240 to go out in the rain to a cemetery to 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:26.400 honor those World War War One veterans and Joe Biden again, 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.800 you know, simply by showing up to do so, is 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:35.040 drawing this very strong contrast between himself and what MAUGA 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:38.319 stands for, which is not what America is used to 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:38.960 standing for. 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:44.400 Why do you think that Trump's attacks on the military, 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:48.240 they haven't gone unnoticed, but Republicans have put up with them. 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:51.040 If anything, they've sort of gone along with them. 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.839 Why do you think that is, I don't really. 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:57.200 Know, because it used to be that Republicans loved the 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.920 military and that sort of ended with Trump. 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.520 Yes, that's true though across a lot of you know, 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:08.360 Republican virtues and beliefs. There is almost no one in 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:13.400 American politics less conservative than Donald Trump. And you know, 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.520 we don't need to rehash it all here, but this 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.240 is the party that told us, you know, for generations 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.720 that they were the party of family values. You know 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:24.560 that they were the party of morality, and you know, 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.880 all of that is out the window with Donald Trump 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.320 as well. They told us that they were the party 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.880 of law and order, and that's a tradition that goes 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:36.080 back to Richard Nixon. That's out the window now. And 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.760 so you have the Party of Richard Nixon and Ronald 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:44.599 Reagan is now, you know, set to nominate a convicted 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:49.839 felon and adjudicated sexual abuser who hates the military to 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:53.560 be its standard bearer. For me, in my years of 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:58.200 covering Republicans and Democrats in Washington, you know, the thing 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.520 that I always thought was that there was going to 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:06.040 be some principle that the Republicans would not be willing 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:10.560 to compromise for money and power. And it turns out, 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.320 you know, sort of year after year we get further 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.840 down this road and the answer is there isn't that 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:21.920 they will compromise every core belief in order to have 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.720 the brain melt that is backing Donald Trump. And I 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.600 think to me, you know, speaking as a historian, one 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.600 of the things that I think will be hardest to 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.160 explain to future generations. 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.400 If there are futures and. 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:39.439 We're allowed to tell them history, is why this entire 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:46.080 generation of Republican leaders were so willing to compromise themselves 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.520 and their values and everything that they care about and 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.840 told us that they cared about for this guy. He's 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.360 not someone that you know, anyone would sort of look 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.800 at objectively and say, you know, yeah, this is the 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:58.360 man that I want to follow into battle. 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:03.920 Yeah. It seems believably amazing and strange. I mean, it's 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:07.600 not strange. We've been doing this for ten fucking years, right, 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:13.480 It's not strange. It's just continually going. Can you talk 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:20.679 about why Republicans have embraced isolationism. I mean, is it 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.480 just because Trump likes it, or is there some other 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:25.800 larger trope there. 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:31.400 I think it's two things. One is the you know, 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:34.080 sort of that Trump in it for me, not for 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.520 the aspect of sort of everything that is, you know, 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.640 Donald Trump just can't imagine why NATO would be useful 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:42.960 to us or to the world. You know, he can't 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:46.840 imagine why we would enter into any of these international 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:50.320 alliances or partnerships with allies. But then I think the 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.760 other thing which I think we need to reflect upon 0:12:54.040 --> 0:13:01.360 a name, is the white nationalism that underscores and undergirds 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:07.160 so much of the modern Donald trump Ism, Maga far 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:11.440 right politics, which is so much of I think this 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:17.640 isolationism also stems from, you know, these white nationalist politics 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:21.760 of you know, preserving America as a white Christian nation. 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:26.240 And I think you see that in the anti immigration 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:31.080 border politics. I think you see that in the trying 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.080 to sort of lock down America for Americans. And I 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.520 think you see that very explicitly in the sort of 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:41.040 whole ideological underpinnings of you know, what they call America First, 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.360 which is the only thing that America should care about 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:45.920 are the white Christian Americans. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.000 Thank you, Garrett, that was great. 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:49.200 Thank you so much for having me. 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.440 Spring is here, and I bet you are trying to 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:58.080 look fashionable, So why not pick up some fashionable all 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:02.760 new Fast Politics merchandise. We just opened a news store 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:07.559 with all new designs just for you. Get t shirts, hoodies, hats, 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:12.520 and top bags. To grab some, head to fastpolitics dot com. 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.080 Maria Teresa Kumar is the president of voter Lets you know. 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:21.880 Welcome back to Fast Politics, Maria Teresa. Thanks for having me, Mollie. 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:22.600 How are you doing. 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:26.000 I'm good. I'm so excited to have you, always brill. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:30.280 I wanted to first start by getting you to talk 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:37.400 about President Biden's announcement this week that spouses of people 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:41.400 who are citizens are now sort of will you explain 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:42.720 to me sort of the minutia of that. 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:47.480 This is a perfect example of how archaa our current 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:51.640 immigration laws are. The individuals right now, If you are 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.160 married to an American citizen, have been living here for 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.400 at least ten years, in order for you to apply 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:02.200 for even a green car, you have to go back 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.640 to your country of origin and wait anywhere from three 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.720 to up to a decade. So imagine being a mom 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:11.720 and you just had a one year old and now 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.680 in order for you to be able to get your 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.640 green card, you have to leave the child or potentially 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.960 go with the child and leave the dad behind. And 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:26.320 so what President Biden did was say you no longer 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.000 have to go back and wait for your paperwork. You 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.560 can parole in place and continue thriving with your family. 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.640 It's a big deal because again, it is fixing a 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:42.160 clerical error, and it changes the lives of five hundred 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.720 thousand people overnight. It allows mommies to breathe more easy, 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:49.840 and it lets children, American children not have to worry 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.760 with this anxiety of will mom be back when I 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:55.800 will mom be here when I get back home from school? 0:15:56.200 --> 0:16:00.160 So what does this do you think? I mean, there's 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:05.840 been so much talk about Biden losing Hispanic voters, Hispanic 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:09.560 voters liking Trump. I mean, do you think this helps Biden? 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.080 Do you think that it makes in roads in why 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.400 Hispanic voters? And I know it's not a monolith, and 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.000 I know that there are different groups and different people 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.680 have different wants and needs, But can you explain to 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.400 us what the sort of electoral map looks like and 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:25.840 if this helps him and all? 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.160 Absolutely, And first of all, I do want to use 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:33.960 your podcast to really talk to your audience about when 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.840 Republicans say that there's a right for its shift in 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:40.880 the Latino voter, none of the data and none of 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:45.520 the Latino voting behavior speaks to that. And it's a 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.200 way just like you remember in the midterms, everybody was reading 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.240 headlines that you know, there was going to be a big, 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:55.160 massive red wave, Molly, and that never materialized. But the 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:58.520 right is such a great job of gas slighting media. 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.360 It's the same thing that's happening in the Latino vote. 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.280 And I will share with you just to level set. 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.119 We just came out of the field two weeks ago 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:11.920 with the most comprehensive two thousand Latino voter analysis where 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:16.920 in five battleground states where we learned exactly this that 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.960 if the vote were to be held today, fifty nine 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.840 percent of Latino voters would vote for Biden and thirty 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:28.120 nine would vote for Trump. It becomes sticky, however, when 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.760 there is a third party candidate that is on the ballot. 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:36.680 In that scenario, Molly, seventeen percent of Latino voters go 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.920 to a third party candidate and twelve percent of them 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:45.000 go overwhelmingly to RFK specifically. So the danger right now 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:50.159 is people going and moving to more of the left 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:54.960 of Biden, and it's disproportionately Molly Latin now women. And 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.800 that's what was surprising to our work. I mean, we've 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.639 been doing this for twenty years. It's spoke to us 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.880 when we said, wait a second, doesn't make sense that 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:07.400 people that were so adamant about Bernie Sanders just five 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.040 years ago, all of a sudden would go so extreme. 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:13.320 And sure enough, what we're learning is is that it's 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:17.919 they are going more left of Biden through undefined candidates. 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:21.520 And so when we talk about the importance of what 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:25.479 the Biden administration just did with the executive order, it 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:31.359 allows the Latino voter to finally differentiate between a Republican 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.560 and a Democrat. Because for a long time, the Republicans 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.560 were separating families and the Democrats. All they had was 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.119 rhetoric of what they would do if they were in power. 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.560 And now this becomes material because now if you were 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:47.000 to ask a Latino youth what they deeply care about, 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.680 they deeply care about protecting their families. In fact, it's 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.720 always one of the top to top three issues, number 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:56.560 one being the economy, number two being abortion, and number 0:18:56.600 --> 0:19:00.960 three always how is the president going to provide protective 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:04.480 status to my mom who's been here for twenty thirty years. 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:08.160 And so this changes the game because now we're able 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.800 to say, not only did the president do the decent 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:13.560 thing to do, but he did the politically astute thing 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:17.280 to do. Because it's not only the family members that 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.120 are who are voters believe this is a good thing. 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:26.040 Seventy five percent of independent white voters, even in Pennsylvania 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:30.399 recognize the decency in allowing a family to stay together. 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:36.239 There is polling, and again, polling, it's so stupid and 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:38.440 a lot of it is wrong, and yet it's all 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:42.600 we have. So there's polling that says that a lot 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:47.119 of Latino voters they want immigration reform, but they also 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:53.560 are that there's some anxiety about immigration from Latino voters. 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:56.399 Do you think that's true? And if so, do you 0:19:56.480 --> 0:20:00.960 think that Biden's executive orders have satiated that? And also, 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:02.720 can you just explain this to us? 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.919 Sure? So, I think that what the Biden administration is 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:12.400 finally doing is divorcing too issues that are completely different. 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:16.399 What is happening, sadly at the southern border is really 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:21.080 an international issue. It's a Western hemispheric issue, and it 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:25.280 is really a result, Molly of the United States not 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.960 having a Latin American policy for the last forty five years, 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:33.840 and it's increasingly I want to alert to you know, 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:37.280 to your listeners, is that it's increasingly while we have 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:42.840 not been investing, China and Russia have and so there 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.119 is mobility coming down in the southern border where there 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:51.199 is absolute chaos coming from their countries of origin. And 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:55.159 until the Biden administration, and we've seen it already with 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:59.080 the Vice President going down there to Central America trying 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:04.440 to find resource is from business to start stabilizing those countries. 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:08.560 But this really is an issue that Congress needs to 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:12.200 help solve through appropriations and really coming up with what 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:16.879 is our Monroe Policy Marshall Plan for Latin America for 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.359 the nine, ten, fifteen years, because you've better believe that 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:22.280 Russia and China already have it in place. And so 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:25.560 what the Biden administration is so definitely doing is really 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:29.240 divorcing these two issues. That is international on one scope 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:33.760 and then domestic immigration policy of the people that have 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:38.080 been here for twenty thirty years. And that is really 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:41.960 important to differentiate because when you pull and this is 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:44.000 you know, you and I talk about this all the time. 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.840 This is what happens when you have people pulling and 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:50.600 not asking the right questions. When you ask every American 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:55.360 should our border be safer? Every single American is going 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:57.760 to agree with that, because we do want to know 0:21:57.800 --> 0:21:59.760 who's coming in and who's coming out. We do want 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:01.840 to know that we are playing by the worlds, but 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:04.760 more importantly, that we are being humane on how we're 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:07.280 processing it and that we're being clear. But if you 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:09.600 take a voter then and ask them, well, what do 0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:14.200 you think about your mechanic who's been here for twenty years, 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:17.239 that's part of your community, all of a sudden that 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:19.960 person says, well, Jose's a good guy. I know him. 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.879 He coaches my daughter's soccer team. I think that you 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:25.320 should figure out some sort of relief. And so with 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:28.520 the Biden administration is finally having this conversation that we've 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:31.680 been waiting for. How do you divorce an international crisis 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:34.720 and issues that's impacting not just the United States but 0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:38.000 all of South America and abroad and the same time 0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:40.560 get our house in order at home so that people 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:43.800 that have been paying taxes that are entrepreneurs that take 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.720 care of us, that feed us, that are our teachers, 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:50.040 finally are able to demonstrate that they have some sort 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:54.520 of relief, especially in the case of there are bad 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:59.760 actors who are constantly trying to divide America based on 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:03.080 this idea of who is American or not. And this 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:06.240 provides us with this opportunity to say we're actually creating 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:10.879 smart changes to the law that are common sense and 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:11.600 that are fair. 0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:15.000 A lot of Latino voters listen to the radio. Right, 0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:17.439 that's common I mean a lot of voters listen to 0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:21.359 the radio, local voters out of the Cella Corridor. Do 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:25.720 you think that Latino voters are getting the Biden message 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:27.800 and do you think Biden World is doing enough? 0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:30.639 I think that the Biden administration has been working so 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:35.520 hard to get the country back aligned that they have 0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:38.800 not done as much communication up to this point. I 0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:41.040 do think that they're going to start doing more. But 0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:44.800 I also think that what we need are trust is 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:50.479 sources that are advocates and representing the Latino community. And 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:52.600 so one of the things that Motor Latino is doing. 0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:55.040 I mean, we've been negotiating with the White House for 0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:56.720 three and a half years I mean, to be frank, 0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:59.639 We've been negotiating this specific execative action a form of 0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:03.679 it since Obama, and so finally, a decade later, we 0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.280 are able to go back to our community and say, look, 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:09.800 you you are not wrong that the difference between the 0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:14.600 Republicans and Democrats is the contrast of policy. The Republicans 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:18.640 twice impeached candidate wants to double down on family separation, 0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:22.120 create a cottage industry of detention centers around the country, 0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:26.200 targeting people who don't look quote unquote American, meaning if 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:28.600 you're not white, you can be caught in that drive day. 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:30.679 Oh no question. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:32.280 It's so funny because people say, well, what is Saint 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:33.520 Trump is going to do? I'm like, what do you mean, 0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:34.800 what do you do? 0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:37.119 You do you think that squads? 0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:41.280 Yeah, I mean I believe him because he did everything 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.399 he set out to do in his first administration except 0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:46.520 the promise of infrastructure. Talk about a massive failure, Talk 0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:48.480 about the fact that that was the only policy issue 0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:51.879