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Speaker 1: the cutting room floy here today. We'll go for about

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Speaker 1: do this in your main event, Charles Olivera defeats Dustin

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Speaker 1: Parier via rear naked choke at one two of the

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Speaker 1: third round. So Charles Olivera I think has now reached

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Speaker 1: the twenty win club. He already had the record for

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Speaker 1: the most submissions in UFC history. That will only now continue.

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Speaker 1: I think most finishes as well, that will only continue.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll get a bonus, but I

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Speaker 1: would imagine that he probably will. And you get the idea.

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Speaker 1: So all of those records that he already had, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be added to. Here everyone says it sounds good, okay,

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Speaker 1: So what can we say about this fight? I will

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Speaker 1: say something upfront about this. Charles Olivera is a guy

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Speaker 1: that I have been very slow to warm to. It's

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Speaker 1: been a clear weakness in my judgment over time. Not

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Speaker 1: Poarier the way that he did, I would have told

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Speaker 1: the wind streak that Charles Olivera is on, and then

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Speaker 1: Since then, he has submitted Clay Guida, he submitted Christoschiagos,

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Speaker 1: So then you come over like this. Once you see that,

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Speaker 1: I think the fact that he spent so much time

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00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 1: Pourier did on his back that way, I think he

430
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 1: wanted to come out in the third one and get

431
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,199
Speaker 1: a little bit of it back and like, you know,

432
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: start strong, and you know, could you argue that he

433
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 1: got a little over aggressive on the feet and that's

434
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 1: how olivera obviously because he has skills as well, was

435
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,239
Speaker 1: able to get under and into the back and then

436
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 1: everything else, like you know, did it put him in

437
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 1: a place where he wasn't as strategic as he needs

438
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 1: to be in the third round because he got put

439
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 1: on his back for so long? You know, I don't know,

440
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 1: Maybe that feels like reaching again. Some of you will

441
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 1: have access to better information than I do at the

442
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 1: time of the the broadcast of this, So if I

443
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: have incoplete information, I apologize. And the interest of fairness,

444
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: what I would say is if is if the grip

445
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 1: was secured more faithfully or again, it could be just accidental.

446
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm not in any way implying that I know for

447
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: a fact he cheated on purpose. I'm merely saying if

448
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 1: he did break the rules negligently or otherwise, it has

449
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: a profound effect. But if he didn't and it was

450
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,959
Speaker 1: you know, and this is just a misunderstanding, then you

451
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: could a just not only I wouldn't even take back

452
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: the idea that, like, you know, if he did have

453
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: the grab inside the glove, that that means that he's

454
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: you know, Oh, now we can revisit the idea that

455
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: he's a quitter. Even then I wouldn't revisit it. It

456
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 1: would I think cast something of a controversial shadow over

457
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: the fight. But I tend to think most people will

458
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: not listen. Poorier never complained. He didn't complain. I watched.

459
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: I watched him as soon as the round was over.

460
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 1: What's he gonna get up and do?

461
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: Here?

462
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: Is he gonna say anything to the referee? Referee Herb

463
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: Dean in this case, he didn't say anything to him.

464
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: You know, maybe they discussed it in the corner and

465
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 1: we didn't get Again. I don't have enough information at

466
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 1: this stage to really say a whole lot about it.

467
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 1: If it did play a role at is extremely unfortunate.

468
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: But in either case, I do think there's a lot

469
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: of really positive things to take about Olavera. I mean, obviously,

470
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: if it's a misunderstanding, then all you can do is

471
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: just dish out praise on this guy and the kind

472
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: of thing he has done. Let me say a word

473
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: if I can, about Dustin Partier, and then I want

474
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: to look at some of these numbers. That's a tough

475
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: loss for Dustin man, that's a tough loss. He was

476
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: riding a ton of momentum. I think if he had

477
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: won this he'd have a good case. Not maybe you

478
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: disagree that it would have been the best case, but

479
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: he would at least have a good case for Fighter

480
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: of the Year. It probably will go to Kamara Uspan

481
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: now probably I guess what to see. But so he's

482
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: out of the running for that. You know, I don't

483
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: think he's that far away from a title shot. But

484
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: when you get this close and you don't get it,

485
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, it can take some time to get back here.

486
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: And the boogeyman of the division, Habib left, and so

487
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: you thought, Okay, I certainly thought everyone kind of knew

488
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:53,959
Speaker 1: this fight was going to be close, but I had

489
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 1: kind of thought that maybe maybe party A can pull

490
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: this one out here against a very very tough Charles Olivera.

491
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: And he didn't. He looked good in the first round.

492
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: Second round was the weird one, as we just indicated.

493
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: But in the third round, you know, I felt like

494
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: he got a little bit aggressive and then once he

495
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: got behind him, like you really need. He didn't play

496
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: that fight I think as well as he could have,

497
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: and Olivera did, and that was the difference. He was

498
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: just again, second round is a little bit unclear for me,

499
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: But let's assume for the second, let's take a conversation

500
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: that everything's above board. Then you know, I mean, what

501
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: can you say, like Olivera just performed as well as

502
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: he needed to in the moments that he was required

503
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 1: to do so, and it's just as simple as that.

504
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: He is a serious threat. He's going to be very

505
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: hard to put away on the feet because he's got

506
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: great skills. You know, he doesn't. Before his resiliency I

507
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: think was not out of bounds to be questioned, but

508
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: because he is so comfortable by being a veteran. Now,

509
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: because he's been on these big stages, he's in big

510
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: main events, he's on the poster, he has to do

511
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: more media and now you know, look look at the

512
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: guys he's facing, like his skills are obviously on par

513
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, he's the champion. I understand that. What did

514
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: you mean to say is strip out of the title

515
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: for just a second? Like do you look at the

516
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: rest of that division and think olda Eric can beat

517
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: these guys? You definitely do. Now you might say, well,

518
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: Justin Gaigie is a different animal and we'll have to

519
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: see how that goes. Or Islam Makachev or whoever you

520
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: think might be the best answer there. Makachev maybe could

521
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: take him down and ground and pound him. Gai Chi

522
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: might be able to like really physically hurt him before

523
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: succumbing to some kind of you know, and scramble out

524
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: of some kind of delicate position like these are. These

525
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: are tough guys to beat, but clearly like ola Vera

526
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: is you know of the class and again obviously being

527
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: the champion right now, the guy to beat in that division.

528
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,479
Speaker 1: It's an amazing thing. But for Parier, as I got

529
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: a little bit sidetracked, it's a tough loss. I had

530
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: tweeted this. It's hard to know exactly what's going to happen.

531
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: McGregor seems to think that when he comes back will

532
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: just fight for the title. You can't really say he's wrong.

533
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: I'm a little skeptical that that actually comes to fruition.

534
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: I tend to think that probably that probably won't, probably

535
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: will happen, but there's an there's an at least an

536
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: outside chance that it won't. And I actually think the

537
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: fact that Poarier losing in the same year makes a

538
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: potential fourth fight, maybe not right away off the sea,

539
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: but makes a potential fourth fight between POORI and McGregor

540
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: a lot more likely actually, you know, because the problem

541
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 1: that I thought was going to happen was that Parier

542
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: was gonna win and then they were gonna want to

543
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: do that rematch. Now you could do the rematch without

544
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: having to worry, or the fourth fight anyway, without having

545
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: to worry about the title being involved here because Olivera's

546
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: got it. But of course McGregor, being the most powerful

547
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: and popular fighter in the sport, is gonna want to

548
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: come back and just compete right for the title. And

549
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: by the way, you know, listen, maybe you would argue

550
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: that Olivera beats McGregor. This is not a controversial opinion,

551
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: but I do think it'd be a little bit foolish

552
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: to count out Connor McGregor. There are a lot of

553
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: reasons to think why this version of him, especially coming

554
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: off a very difficult injury, I won't be a champion,

555
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: and even if he gets the fight against Oliveria, I

556
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: will go quite poorly for him. There's that's not an

557
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: implausible thing, but McGregor can be it, historically speaking anyway,

558
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: accurate right off the bell, right the first bell, he

559
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: comes out usually typically not always obviously, but typically he

560
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: comes out ready shot out of a cannon, firing accurate

561
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: the whole nine yards. If you can get a version

562
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: like that, it could be interesting early. Obviously, as the

563
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: fight goes on, you would heavily favor Olivera at that point.

564
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: But you know, like every time I make a comment

565
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: about Connor, it's like I have to navigate that the

566
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: spaces between the two audiences, which is his fans, And

567
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 1: if I don't say that I think he can be Olivera,

568
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: They're gonna, like, you know, set me on fire. And

569
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: if I say that I think that, you know the

570
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: opposite of that, then the other side gets all bitter

571
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: and there's no way to please it. I would probably

572
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: favor Olivera to win, while recognizing that Connor has a

573
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: particular set of strengths that could match up quite interestingly

574
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: with the skill sets of Charles Olivera, although I would

575
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: I want to be very clear about this. Any kind

576
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: of McGregor and Olivera fight is I guess not fraudulent

577
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: because it's real, but it should not happen. She should

578
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: get another win. So this is the point, like I

579
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: think McGregor should come back and fight Parier, or you

580
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: could have him fight Nate, or you could have him

581
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: fight Tony or whatever you want to do. Haven't fight somebody,

582
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: have him get the one win and then you could

583
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: olay him to the front. But I guess that's not

584
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: what they want to do. Let's look at let's well,

585
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: I actually guess we'll see what they want to do.

586
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to speak for

587
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: them because I don't have any clue what they want

588
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: to do. Let us look at the numbers for this fight,

589
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: shall we? Okay, So for this one, well, they didn't

590
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: credit Olivera with a single takedown. I hadn't thought of

591
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: it that way, but yeah, that makes sense. Oh for six,

592
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: but they gave him credit for three submission attempts. They've

593
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: got Olavera with five minutes and forty one seconds of

594
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: control time. That's pretty good. And then from the striking standpoint,

595
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: he overall has U seventy three to fifty eight significant

596
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: strike lead. Olivera does Poorier is credited with one knockdown

597
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: on Belie that's in the first round. Yep. It was

598
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: first round Poarier fifty four to forty eight significant strikes. Again,

599
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: these are numerical totals. Not qualitative totals, just to give

600
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: you a sort of sense of things. In the second round,

601
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: Parier landed three three of five strikes, Olivera twenty three

602
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: clear round for him. And then in the third round

603
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: Poitier got one and Olivera just got two. But then

604
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: he got the the submission. Charles Olivera went to the

605
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: body thirty percent. That's a lot to the leg, just four.

606
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: Dustin Poarier went ninety six percent to the head. I

607
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: would argue that Dustin Poarier did a little bit of

608
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: head hunting. He already is a bit of a head hunter.

609
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: It's worked out for him. But that is ninety six

610
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: percent to the head, three percent to the boy seems

611
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: like a missed opportunity there. Among some other things as well,

612
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: like the way in which he had closed distance in

613
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: the third And yeah, dude, but this, you know, every

614
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: time you feel like you got to beat on the

615
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: on the on the game and which way it's gonna

616
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: go and what's gonna work and who's on top and

617
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: who's on bottom of the game will just shake shit

618
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: up in ways you just never imagined. I knew, and

619
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: I think most people knew. Olavera win or lose. Was

620
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough out here, like he it was

621
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: clear at this point he had to send it to

622
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: the level. But I just mean one more time, backing

623
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: up before this win streak started when he had lost

624
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: to Paul Felder. After Charles Olavera lost to Paul Felder,

625
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: who was the person raising their hand and be like,

626
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, wait three four years, he's gonna be an exposition.

627
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure there were some, of course, but I think

628
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who are probably pretty skeptical

629
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: of me among them, and you just can't really do

630
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: a lot of that anymore second round of this fight.

631
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: Even then, not reallywithstanding he is you know, someone was

632
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: asking me, like why he's so efficient, because he is

633
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: a veteran, he understands a how to keep himself calm,

634
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: and he's got such technical acumen in all of the

635
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: phases of the game that there's none of these scenarios

636
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: where he has to really like laboriously think through them.

637
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: Everything is just kind of you know, effortless. Is not right,

638
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: but it seems that way because everything is so programmed

639
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: into the way which he's able to it's muscle memory.

640
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: Really at this point, what I'm trying to say, and

641
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: it has paid off. It has paid off in a

642
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Speaker 1: pretty dramatic way. Dude. His what he's doing with the

643
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Speaker 1: way he's getting these finishes bringing By the way, it

644
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: was a great night overall for jiu jitsu, Like jiu

645
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: jitsu made a big comeback tonight. Right. There's obviously some

646
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: events where guys just can't get anything going. You're seeing

647
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Speaker 1: the ones that like really put the time in to

648
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: make jiu jitsu a serious weapon for themselves, not a

649
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: box that they can tick and say, what am I

650
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: good at? No? No, no, no, no, no, what am I

651
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: lethal at? The guys who can do that? Man, once

652
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: the rest of their game rounds out and it becomes

653
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: they can lord that prowess, you know, in a in

654
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: a much more deliberative kind of way, dude, they're they're

655
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: they're very tough to beat. And Charles Olavera, I mean,

656
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: what a journey this guy's had through weight cuts and

657
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: bad losses and injuries and weight classes and you name it.

658
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: And here he is at this point and he, you know,

659
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: did that to Dustin Parier, Like, fuck man, dude, it's

660
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: a really good fighter. Do you want to argue that,

661
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: by the way, the Dustin Poitier has a weakness from

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Speaker 1: the back. I mean he got submitted in uh what

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Speaker 1: two out of four fights? My math is right, No,

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Speaker 1: two out of five excuse me, because the Hooker fight

665
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Speaker 1: and then the two Connor fights, he got submitted from

666
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: the back by those. To his other losses in the UFC,

667
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: he got stopped by McGregor that first time, he got

668
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: tk O by Michael Johnson on a really bad call

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Speaker 1: Cub Swanson. Then he went to a decision with Chance

670
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Speaker 1: Ung jungk. He got submitted, but it was a darch

671
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Speaker 1: choke and I was a weird back one back and forth,

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Speaker 1: I should say. And then there's actually his WC debut

673
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Speaker 1: against Danny Castillo. Last call was a decision. So these

674
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: these attacks from the back haven't happened until recently. You

675
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: could argue that there's always been there and no one

676
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: took advantage of it, or that it takes operators at

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Speaker 1: the level of Habib and now Olivera to make use

678
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Speaker 1: of any weakness that he has there. That nobody else

679
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: is good enough to do the kinds of things that

680
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Speaker 1: those two guys can do. Up to you to decide

681
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: that there isn't enough information either way, but unbelievably impressive.

682
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: The rankings as it stands pull that up as well.

683
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: So these are the rankings. Again, this is not updated,

684
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Speaker 1: They're not fully voted on and then changed until Monday

685
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: or Tuesday. But for the lightweight division, they've got Poria

686
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Speaker 1: sitting at one, Gaichie at two. Let's say Gaigie's gonna

687
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Speaker 1: get the fight next, so it's gonna be Gaichee versus Olivera.

688
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Speaker 1: And then obviously we know Darius's gonna fight Makachev. Winn

689
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Speaker 1: Aer that probably would fight with the winner of Gaichee

690
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Speaker 1: versus Olivera, and then you have Chandler and then Desangos, Ferguson, Hooker,

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Speaker 1: McGregor and Gillespie. Now the X factor is that just indicated?

692
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Speaker 1: Is dan? Excuse me that Connor McGregor could come back

693
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Speaker 1: and then jump the line, but we at least think

694
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Speaker 1: think the Gachi fight is next. Parier, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: where he goes from here. Does he fight Chandler at

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Speaker 1: five because Daryush and Makachev are in a bit of

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Speaker 1: a different path. Something to think about, maybe Paria and

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Speaker 1: a Chandler in lockhorns, which would be a hell of

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Speaker 1: a fight. But with OLIVERA and Gechie, you would have

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00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: to imagine, like right, like the Gaiche's leg kicking is

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Speaker 1: going to be a thing. Could Olivera use like catching

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Speaker 1: the kicks as a potential weapon to deter him because

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Speaker 1: there's a threat of a takedown there or or is

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Speaker 1: he able to deliver those kicks in a way that

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Speaker 1: is not as it doesn't open him up to those

706
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Speaker 1: kinds of attacks. We're gonna have to see. Obviously, if

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Speaker 1: Olivera can get Geichie to the ground by hooker, by krook,

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Speaker 1: you would imagine he's gonna have a significant If Olivera

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Speaker 1: gets gai Chi to the ground, the level of difference

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Speaker 1: there is gonna be overwhelming where you can't do anything

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Speaker 1: about it. Right there would be there'd be almost nothing

712
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: that Gechie could do if he got fully taken down

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00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: by Olivera or had his back taken it'd be almost nothing.

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00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean the disparity and talent. You know, dude, like

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Speaker 1: Charles Olvera didn't just beat us in pooriator and I

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Speaker 1: like remove the name Charles Olivera submitted another black belt

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Speaker 1: to do this tonight. You know what I'm saying like shit,

718
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: like he did. You know, that's a he didn't submit

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Speaker 1: some like you know, Rando purple belt or something that's

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Speaker 1: like a long standing black belt. He did that too.

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Speaker 1: So in that sense, I'm not sure what Getchee can

722
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Speaker 1: offer in that particular dimension that Poirier wouldn't be better at.

723
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Speaker 1: But you can imagine Gechie can fucking thump. He's much

724
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: better about his entries. Trevor Whitman and him are going

725
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: to work on that like crazy. They're probably going to

726
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Speaker 1: find a way to land the kick and get out.

727
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Speaker 1: Like you know, there's just a lot. It's a hell

728
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Speaker 1: of a fight, hell of a fight. Can't wait to

729
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: see it, and probably time for the stragglers. Whether it's

730
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: you or me or anyone else. We all knew olivera

731
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: was good, but dude, he's really really special. This is

732
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Speaker 1: what he's putting together is dramatic and important. All right,

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Speaker 1: let we'll come back to this. I have a tweet

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Speaker 1: up right now at so my Instagram is Luke Thomas News,

735
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: but it's l Thomas News on Twitter and I have

736
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Speaker 1: this thing up, so let me take a look at it.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, I'm gonna pin this to my profile

738
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Speaker 1: now instead, you can leave a question there and we'll

739
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: get to it. Thumbs up on the video hit subscribe

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Speaker 1: as always. All right, let's talk about it. Let's talk

741
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: about the co main event. So in your co main event,

742
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: I lost my thing here. I'm gonna pull it back

743
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: up one more time in your co main event. Can

744
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: you believe it? I certainly can, but I think some

745
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: of you are very surprised. Juliana Pina defeats Amanda Nunez

746
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: via rear naked choke at two excuse me, three twenty

747
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: six of the second round. Now, let me play a

748
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: little bit of something for you that I I don't

749
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: know if you guys can hear this or not. So

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00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: let me see if I can play this. Yeah, I

751
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: think I can. This is me talking to Brian Campbell

752
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: on Friday's show and anything on the tape to tell

753
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: you that that's gonna happen. But there's been upsets happened. Listen.

754
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: This is too. This is me talking about the why

755
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: it's foolish to dismiss Juliana Pinna in this case. Here's

756
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: what I said happened. Listen, there is to my knowledge,

757
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: I can't find anything on the tape to tell you

758
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: that that's gonna happen. But there's been upsets that have

759
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: happened that I was like, I didn't see coming, and

760
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: I didn't prepare for it, and I just sort of

761
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: assumed that we have we have a little bit of

762
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: a lazy tendency, and it was sure not the game

763
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: to do that little cute let me finish, there is

764
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of a lazy tendency in MMA to

765
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: just assume that greatness as inertia not worth thinking about.

766
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: Are you speaking English? Because I can't tell your pigeon

767
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: English from Connecticut. Why don't you go shuck some corner,

768
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: don't you? Why don't you go take across times? I

769
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: try to take this show to the next wa why

770
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: don't you.

771
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: Shut down?

772
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: You assume that all of your bad jokes elevate the show.

773
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: I have new some of them. Anyway, what I'm trying

774
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: to make here is, dude, can I find something on

775
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: tape to be like, dude that look, that's what she's

776
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: gonna do to Amanda new Nest. No, I don't have

777
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: that for you. I can't manufacture that. But I just

778
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: want to point out there is a little bit of

779
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: laziness that we abscribe to greatness in Mma in terms

780
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: of the inertia just always taking care of itself that

781
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: you I think we should check a little bit. Guys,

782
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: I lived through I lived through many crazy upsets. You

783
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: know some of you are sure many of you saw

784
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: Rousey get beat by a hole. That's a crazy one.

785
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: Or I remember when Takanori Gomi got beat by Marcus

786
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: Aurelio and you were like, how the fuck did he

787
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: get beat by Marcus Aurelio, and which is a whole

788
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: mess for pride at the time. And you know the

789
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: big one though, was I remember exactly where I was.

790
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: I was at Hard Times Cafe. Is a true story.

791
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: I was at Hard Times Cafe in Fredericksburg, Virginia, which

792
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: no longer exists. I don't think the bar anyway, o'fo

793
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: see the city is still there. But and I watched

794
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: Matt Sarah knuckle gsp into the canvas. And you want

795
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: to talk about the most implausible of all scenarios that

796
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: you could have ever imagined, Dude, When I tell you

797
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: that no one except for like Ray Longo, was giving

798
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: Matt Sarah a chance when that happened, I am telling

799
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: you and then it just goes and it happens. And

800
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: it didn't just happen, it happened rather fucking easily. That

801
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: was a big That was a real learning lesson for me.

802
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: This is why I say the same thing about John

803
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: Jones going to heavyweight too. John Jones might go to

804
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 1: heavyweight and then just beat the shit out of everyone.

805
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: The way he's been doing like that is that is

806
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: not in any way implausible. But he struggled a little

807
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: bit at the end at light heavyweight. He's had a

808
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: lot of time off, He's got a shitload of distractions

809
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: outside the cage. His numbers were kind of dropping off

810
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: in light heavyweight before he made the move. All I've

811
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: said is you just can't assume automatically he's gonna be great.

812
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: You just can't. And people just do. Once you get

813
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: to a point in mma where you're just good, people

814
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: think that will just carry on forever. It will not.

815
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: It will not not if you stay around long enough.

816
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: That was the big Like, This is why the way

817
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: Habib played it is correct. Dude, Habib knows, he knows

818
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: that maybe he can maybe beat everyone else out there

819
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: right now, but that if you stick around for you,

820
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: it is the routine requirement of performative greatness, which you know,

821
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: the easier it gets for you, the harder it actually

822
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: becomes to do over time, which is almost paradoxical but true.

823
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: And you know so it's for Amanda Neunz tonight it

824
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 1: was just another day at the office, dude. For Juliana Pana,

825
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: that was today was the biggest night of her life.

826
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Speaker 1: The hardest thing to do in mixed martial arts, I

827
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: would argue, is to be a UFC champion and then

828
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: to stand a post and welcome wave after wave of contender.

829
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: It is exceedingly difficult to do. I have said this

830
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: to you before, I'm gonna say it to you again.

831
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: I remember when Matt Brown when I went to go

832
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: cover Rashad versus John Jones, Matt Brown was facing Wonder Boys.

833
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 1: Is UFC I think no. He had already fought Dan Stigen,

834
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: so this was his second fight against Matt Brown, and

835
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: Matt Brown said something to me that has stuck with me.

836
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: I've told the story to you guys a thousand times,

837
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: but if you are new, it bears repeating one more time,

838
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: which was I asked him about Wonder Boys undefeated kickboxing record,

839
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: and you know, do you know any of these names

840
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 1: and whatnot? And he was like, look, listen, I don't

841
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: know who he fought, is what Matt Brown told me.

842
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: I don't know who he fought, but here's what I

843
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: do know. He had like something like fifty nine or

844
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: sixty the undefeated, you know, fifty nine to oh was

845
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: the record something like that, And he goes, I don't

846
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: know who those guys are, but I do know that

847
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: there's no possible way that wonder boy showed up fifty

848
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: nine times and felt great fifty nine times, didn't have

849
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: any injuries at any point, didn't have something going on

850
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: in his personal life. Camp you know, it didn't go

851
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: perfect every time. Do there were times when, in Matt

852
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: Brown's assessment, to get a record like that, maybe you

853
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: weren't beating all the best guys and like, don't the

854
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: Chuck Norris League or whatever. But like the fact that

855
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: you cannot always be at your best and still be

856
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: a high achiever. That says a lot about your character,

857
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: says a lot about who you are, but it also

858
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: says how rare and how difficult that is. And I

859
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: think it's some other sports where people are very careful

860
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: about who they take and blah blah blah. You know,

861
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: turnovers a little bit less random and sporadic. But Juliana Pagna,

862
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: you could make an argue, you can make a case

863
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily deserve this, but there wasn't really a great

864
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: option about who you could go to. So the argument

865
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: as it stands is that the weight class champion has

866
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: responsibility to defend it. But the major point I want

867
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: to just get folks to understand here is, dude, it

868
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: is to do what Demetrius Johnson did, to do what

869
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: for a long time John Jones did, to do what

870
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: Anderson Silva did GSP. That is the hardest. Jumping weight

871
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: classes is the thing that we now add on to

872
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: the resume. But all you need to jump weight classes

873
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: and I'm this is grossly simplistic, but you know it.

874
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: You just have to have a great night to do

875
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: what Amanda does, right, and again that's a gross oversimplification,

876
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: But to do what Amanda does, dude, we're talking about

877
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: prolonged greatness over time, months, years, dude. In MMA, it

878
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: is very very very difficult to ever be the number

879
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 1: one person in your weight class and then to hold

880
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: that position dude, You're only gonna hold it for a

881
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 1: short amount of time. The very great ones can hold

882
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: it for years, which is just like fucking astronomically impossible

883
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: to even understand. In certain ways, they can do it,

884
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: but they are going to fall apart. There are so

885
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: many people who still can't fathom why Chris Widman won. Dude,

886
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: it's not hard to figure out why Chris Widman beat

887
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: Anderson Silva. And yeah, was Matt Sarah overall better than

888
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: GSP No, but it's not hard to see why Saint

889
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: Pierre lost on that night. It's not and it's not

890
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: all that hard to see why Amanda loss today. Now,

891
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 1: there are a couple of weird things about this fight,

892
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: where like you're like, where's Amanda's cardio? And now our

893
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: cardio wasn't all that great in the Durandome fight. That's true,

894
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: but it was like really not here tonight. Just to reiterate,

895
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: people on MMA assume that once you become good, you

896
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: will just always be that. I don't know why they

897
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: do that, Like, dude, you're like notorious Big said your

898
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 1: rain at the top was short like leprechauns. It's hard,

899
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: very very very difficult when you are accepting number one

900
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: contend after number one contender, and all they have to

901
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: do is just, over time, find that one weakness where

902
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: you had some kind of skilled differential, or maybe you

903
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: just had like a shitty game plan, or you didn't

904
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: listen to your coach like you used to, or you know,

905
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: all that has to happen is for the things that

906
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: make you great to come down just a little bit,

907
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: and then for the person who is new to that

908
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: opportunity to just fucking to just say this is my

909
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: big moment. I'm going to have it. Dude. This is

910
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: what happens in MMA. Power changes hands like this all

911
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: the time. We want to imagine this is why, you know,

912
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: fucking Modello is like, all right, we're gonna be in

913
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: that Brian Ortega train. And then he goes and he

914
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: fights Max and you're like, oh fuck, what are we

915
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: gonna do now? And they did it with Stepe for

916
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: a while too, and he won it back, but it

917
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: was a while where he had lost it, and then

918
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: they did it with Amanda. Now Amanda loses it. I'm

919
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: not suggesting there's any kind of Modello curse. I'm just

920
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: trying to point out, dude, it is hard for advertisers

921
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: to reliably find fighters that can win consistently for a

922
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: few years. It's really difficult to do right, especially the

923
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: championship ones. And it's usually the championship ones that are

924
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: the only ones that have any kind of degree of popularity.

925
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: Sean E. Melly not with standing the right, but for

926
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: the most part, you've got to be in proximity to

927
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: that to have any kind of a name in this business.

928
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: And dude, it's hard as shit to keep that. You

929
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: should take You should take fighters like Lauren Murphy seriously

930
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: when they fight chef Chenko. Dude, let me explain something

931
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: to you. If chef Chenko sticks around long enough, she

932
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: will have this day too. It will happen. It will happen. Now,

933
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: she might retire before it happens. That's true. Habib got

934
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: out before it happened. If you stick around long enough,

935
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: the game will get you. The house always wins. The

936
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: house always wins. You might have a night where you

937
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: know you did great at the blackjack table, but over time,

938
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: the house is gonna win. Dude. The game is gonna

939
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: beat you. And today is really how that went. Now,

940
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: for the fight itself, it was fucking insane. I thought

941
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: Amanda was looking good early on, and then it was

942
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: kind of strange. She decided to have like this mid

943
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: range you know, slugfest basically with Juliana Pania, and Panya

944
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: was getting the better of it, which I couldn't. First

945
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: of all, Pena has got is durable, I'll give her that,

946
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: and clearly, you know, needed some time to get her

947
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: feet under her once she got back to mixed martial arts.

948
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: It look like she got a little bit back today.

949
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: You know, tried to get her down in the first right,

950
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: don't I need to put the numbers on this one.

951
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: But by the time that the you know, uh, they

952
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: were exchanging like and it was going back and forth.

953
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: Panya was like landing on her at like consistently, and

954
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: then you saw the fight and now Amanda was landing too,

955
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: and she was busting up her eye. But both of

956
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: them have like a bloody nose. And then you see

957
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: Amanda start get hit and then wobbling and now backing

958
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: up and like taking deep breaths. You're like, dude, what

959
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: is happening here? So let me pull up the numbers

960
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: on this one if I can. So. For the Comaine,

961
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: here's what we have Penya seventy nine out of one

962
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five significant strikes landed Amanda Unez just

963
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: forty six. Now, in the first round, Amanda landed ten,

964
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: Penya landed five. Amanda is credited with a takedown in

965
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: that round. Penya is not. But in the second round,

966
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: Pnya is credited with a takedown. It's just seventeen seconds

967
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: of control. But seventy four strikes to Amanda. Nunez is

968
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: thirty six and the fight was called off at what time?

969
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: Three twenty six of the first round? Yeah, dude, I

970
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 1: mean you know, like by the time uh Juliana sunk

971
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: the choke, there was Amanda had almost nothing left to

972
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: defend from an energy standpoint, Like there was not an

973
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: aggressive hand fight scenario to maintain that title. Once she

974
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: put it in, it was it was over by and large, right,

975
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: Amanda just got you know how she got outstruck on

976
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: the feet at least for portions of that fight. Again,

977
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: she was lumping up and swelling up Painya. It's not

978
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: like it was one way traffic, but you know, it

979
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: had hurt her and cost her and then by the

980
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: time she had like she had I think she had

981
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: to sit and in turn Painia to get to the takedown.

982
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: But once she got it, she was off and running,

983
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 1: and she had a great gas tank. She was ready

984
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: for it. They implemented a game plan. Dude, Give her credit.

985
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: Give her credit, dude, Juliana Penna, you know, I can't

986
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: go back and say that I predicted this like I

987
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: but prior to this contest, this is what you had

988
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: to deal with to make a case for Paenya, right,

989
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: which why I understand some of white people were saying

990
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: what we were saying before the New Nest fight. Since

991
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: her return, let's say after twenty seventeen. She beat Nico

992
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: Montagno in twenty nineteen, then she lost her to durand

993
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: to me a guillotine choke. Then she beat Sarah McMahon,

994
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 1: which was nice. That was in twenty twenty one, Okay,

995
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: but she had one fight in twenty nineteen, one fight

996
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. She had the first fight in January

997
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. This was her first year since This

998
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: is her first year since twenty fifteen where she had

999
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: two fights in a calendar year for Juliana Pena and

1000
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: then she Beatsaman in noons here at the end. She

1001
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: won in January and then she wins in December, so

1002
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: I understand why there was like, oh, what could you

1003
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: point to in the resume that would make you think

1004
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know that they were going to have a

1005
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: striking contest, and if they did, sure as hell wouldn't

1006
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: have been like, oh, Paanya couldn't stand up to that.

1007
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: But dude, but dude, when someone has been a champion,

1008
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: how long has a Manda been a champion? Which, by

1009
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: the way, of course she has still the featherweight champion,

1010
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: just not the bansamweight. But she won that title from

1011
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: Misha Tate at UFC two hundred in July of twenty sixteen,

1012
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: so five years later was July of this year, and

1013
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: she was still championed. She held the fucking belt for

1014
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: five years. Anytime she's gonna face someone, particularly at one

1015
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: one forty five, where there's like, I mean, the gap

1016
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: between her and her contemporaries is so enormous, it would

1017
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: happen there too if she hung around. But at one

1018
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: thirty five, where you're fighting fucking Duran, to me, who's

1019
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: a good fighter, Holly Holm, Chris Cyborg, you were Keell

1020
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: Penniton Chevchenko do these are good fighters. Now she got

1021
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: the wins over them, but you face enough of that caliber,

1022
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, like it's all all that has to happen

1023
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: for Noonz is for her to pay a little bit

1024
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: less attention, to have a little bit less intensity, to

1025
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: just be a little bit less dialed in on competition night,

1026
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: and then for Pena to just be a little bit

1027
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: better than what she normally is, and it's enough to

1028
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: cause a problem. It is the rain of the dominant

1029
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: champions that you think are dominant today, their rain is

1030
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: going to be short in all likelihood. If Kamara Usman,

1031
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: as good as he is, sticks around, he's gonna he's

1032
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: gonna lose. If you stick around Adasignya, if he keeps

1033
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: sticking around, you know he's gonna look in any of them,

1034
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: any of them. And you guys know, I have the

1035
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 1: highest amount of respect for Audasignya and the highest amount

1036
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: of respect Karl Kamar Rusman is the fighter of the

1037
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: year and maybe his pound for pound number one in

1038
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: the sport. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, if he

1039
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: sticks around, you're gonna see someone beat him and you're

1040
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, the holy fuck, we couldn't see

1041
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: this coming because people are like, oh, he's up there

1042
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: and everyone else is down there. That relationship is precarious.

1043
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: It is precarious. No one's domination on the game is

1044
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion or a given or like, oh, their

1045
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: abilities are so far apart, that's what we'll decide it

1046
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: over time. And in general, skills win fights. But if

1047
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: you fight enough of the top people. This why you

1048
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: don't see anyone in amateur wrestling with like these days anyway,

1049
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: with like one hundred and no record, dude, because if

1050
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: you're fucking going to tournaments with hammers, eventually the hammer's

1051
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: gonna get their way. It's just inevitable. Did your burrows

1052
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: couldn't get all? I see his gold all the time.

1053
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: He had to lose a little bit, you know, you know,

1054
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: and I know there's a couple of people in sports that

1055
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: have unefeated records, and Floyd's got one too. But Floyd's

1056
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: resume is not immune to criticism about cherry picking, by

1057
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: the way, but you do what Amanda has done where

1058
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, since she lost to Cats in Ghano in

1059
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: February of she's be September of twenty fourteen. I'm a

1060
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: getting there right. Yes, she tko shanea basler who used

1061
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: to be you know, Queen of Spayes, was one of

1062
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: the top fighters in the in the world for a time.

1063
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: Then she submitted Sarah McMahon. Then she defeated Chefchenko. Then

1064
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: she submitted me should take. Then she knocked out Ronda Rousey.

1065
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: Then she got it done again controversially, but she got

1066
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: done against Chefchenko. Then she tko Raquel, then she chaoted Cyborg,

1067
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: then she tkoed Allie, and then she beat Duran to

1068
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: me Spencer and then Meghan Anderson. Dude, like that's it's

1069
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: just an unbelievable run. But if you keep putting how

1070
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: old is Julianapina, especially since she's been out a while,

1071
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: so she's like a younger version of this thirty two

1072
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: And you know, she said she doesn't have a ton

1073
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: of miles on her, but she had the injuries, which

1074
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: is bad, but she doesn't have like a ton of

1075
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: gym war you know, you know, long brutal fight battle

1076
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: miles on her. In that sense, she's relatively refreshed. I

1077
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: just I've seen this movie too many times, man, I've

1078
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: seen it too many times to go in here and

1079
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: be like, oh, she would a pinion, it's just gonna

1080
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: get knocked out. Okay, you know, if they fought ten times,

1081
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: by the way, you might pick Amanda noon As in

1082
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: the rematch. I might pick Amanda noon As in the rematch.

1083
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: But I you've got to have humility about how difficult

1084
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: it is to become the most elite in this division

1085
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: and how difficult it is to do that twelve thirteen,

1086
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: fourteen fights long. It's just so special. It's so you

1087
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: talk to the fight met you guys, ask them how

1088
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: many fighters in UFC history have like a five fight

1089
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: win streak. Forget fucking titles, just that it's like like that.

1090
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 1: It's probably it's probably single digit percentage. It's just very very,

1091
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: very very difficult to do, very difficult to do. And

1092
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: the fact that she got that done, the fact that

1093
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 1: she went from Basler to a Megan Anderson from from

1094
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen to March of this year again not kind

1095
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 1: of the loss today, it's just beyond remarkable. It doesn't

1096
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: change the fact that she also is the best I

1097
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: think fighter in women's women's fighter. Ever, this I think, well,

1098
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: it's good. Would this make people think the thing is

1099
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 1: she's got the win over Cyborg, and it's so authoritative

1100
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: that I don't think people would revisit that. But you

1101
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: might ask yourself, could Cyborg she could make one thirty five,

1102
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: so it would be kind of a different scenario, but

1103
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: you might ask yourself that could Cyborg beat Paynia, and

1104
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: you might like Cyborgs chances to beat Paenia by the way,

1105
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: you know, granted, different way classes, I understand, but you

1106
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 1: get the idea, like it's good. Might she still should

1107
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: be who we think her to be, but have a

1108
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: healthy respect for mma, dude, and this should work backwards,

1109
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: which is dude, like when someone is getting to what

1110
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: like oliverin Parier, when those guys have done like you're

1111
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: that level of the game and where you get someone like,

1112
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: you know, obviously a completely different level was like what

1113
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: Anderson Slova did and Demetrius Johnson did. Dude, it is

1114
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: you just can't believe how hard that is to do.

1115
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: You just can't believe the amount of how locked on

1116
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: with your prep, with your athleticism, with your diet, with

1117
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: your sleep, with your strategy. You know, Jones got away

1118
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: with it for a long time. I don't know that

1119
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: he can keep getting away with it with the estate

1120
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: of the game today, but in general, like everything in

1121
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: your life needs to be locked on at this point

1122
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: for you to have you know, to be like a

1123
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: person who can go on like an eight nine fight

1124
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: run and have those in the case of Olavera be

1125
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, previous champions and now title defenses and it's amazing.

1126
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens with Amanda. As I mentioned,

1127
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,479
Speaker 1: she still is the one forty five pound champ, and

1128
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: maybe they'll do a rematch, right, I mean, I don't know,

1129
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 1: Like if Amanda doesn't get a rematch, you know, it's funny,

1130
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,439
Speaker 1: Like my rule typically on a rematches. Again, you guys

1131
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: might feel differently. My rule on this is like if

1132
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: you lose badly, I don't really see a case for it.

1133
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: You know, with bansamweight being the way that it is,

1134
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: and obviously Amanda being the best bansamweight certainly by a

1135
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: long shot at the ever in women's MMA, then you

1136
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: know she might be entitled to a rematch. But yeah,

1137
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: and you might pick Amanda. I think that's okay if

1138
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: you do, just for the next time you see someone

1139
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: being like oh, Kamar who can't lose Dude, I'm telling you, yes,

1140
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: he can as good as he is, as good as

1141
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: he is, and he is maybe the most special fighter

1142
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: we have. Dude, he is going up against fucking hammers.

1143
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: You give hammers enough try, That's just what's going to happen.

1144
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: Let's get to some of your questions here if we can.

1145
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: What else did I miss on this card? The Jeff

1146
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: Neo Pons and Nimbia fight was not great? Oh, Cody

1147
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: garbrand Man, I feel uh that's a bad one. Let

1148
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: me just talk about that for just a second. Kay,

1149
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: car France looked great. I mean he looked great, look

1150
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: well prepared. He had a good strategy, great, great management

1151
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: of range, like when you just looked at what was

1152
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: ailing Cody garbrand who, by the way, loses via TKO

1153
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: at three twenty one of the first round. I don't

1154
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: want to pile on Cody Garbrandt's misery, Okay, I want

1155
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: to be very clear about that. It has to be

1156
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: hard to beat him right now because he is what

1157
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: one in five in his last six. I mean here's

1158
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 1: his last one, two three four, Yeah, here's his last six.

1159
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: So he beat dominant Cruz at UFC two O seven

1160
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: in December of twenty six and it's just been mostly

1161
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: a nightmare since then. He got chaoed by Dela Shaw,

1162
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: then tko by Dela Shaw, then chaoed by Muno's. He

1163
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: did have the rebound against Asensaal, which was a great win,

1164
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: but then he had he got kind of tuned up

1165
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: by Rob Faught, and then he gets viciously stopped by

1166
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: Kaykar France in his flyweight debut. So he has lost

1167
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: five out of his last six, and all but one

1168
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: of those fives five he got stopped. And let me see,

1169
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: he got stopped by Delashaw in the second round, So

1170
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: all the stoppages either took place in the first or

1171
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: second round. It's bad. That's bad. Everyone is making it

1172
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: out to be his chin. And to be clear, I

1173
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: didn't think he had necessarily the best one at bantamweight,

1174
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: and so you knew that going to fly weight he

1175
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: was not doing himself any favors with regards to that.

1176
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: But let me just add this detail. It's a little

1177
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 1: bit simplistic to say it's just his chin. Folks, go

1178
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: back and look at the moments kay Car France is

1179
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: hitting him. He fools him into where the punch is

1180
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: going and freezes him in space, so his defense is

1181
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: down and he's stationary, and he gets hit clean. And

1182
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: by the way, he's near the fence line. Y'all. If

1183
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: Kai car France hits most flyweights that way, most of

1184
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: those flywights are going to be in trouble. I'm pointing

1185
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: out that dude. One of the major problems that I

1186
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: can identify with garb Brandt, and this is very difficult

1187
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: to solve. But he gets He doesn't just get hit,

1188
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: he gets hit clean. How many times have you seen

1189
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: clean shots get through on him? You know, even Olivera

1190
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: he might like it might have landed very hard, but

1191
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: you know you see partier trying to find ways to

1192
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: like work around the glove. The jab was getting through,

1193
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: but I mean like really hard power punches. And by

1194
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: by the way, Olvera does get hit to an extent

1195
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: as well. His punching and strike is different entchal and

1196
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: strikes lander versus absorbed is like almost zero. But I'm

1197
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: trying to point out, like when you go back to

1198
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: garbrand man, he gets hit clean, like they're finding big

1199
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: open punches and strikes on him where he's either like

1200
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: walking into it or he doesn't see it coming, or

1201
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: in this particular case, he's up and not moving and

1202
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a he has. It looks like he

1203
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: has difficulty anticipating and making reads about what's coming at him,

1204
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: and so he's getting hit completely clean. Dude. You know,

1205
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: his chin could be way better than it is, and

1206
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: the way he's getting hit, he still might be getting stopped.

1207
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: Maybe he gets stopped by kay Kara frans Stein and

1208
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't. But dude, with the way Dillashaw was

1209
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: hitting him or the way Munoz was hitting him, dude,

1210
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: he gets hit fucking clean. I mean, I don't know

1211
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: what to say, man, I don't want to pile on

1212
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: the dude's misery, but like, dude, it's not just getting hit,

1213
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: it's getting hit, like he's getting every ounce of those

1214
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: shots that are getting through. He could have he could

1215
01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: have a no garret chin and it would still be

1216
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: get Like this would not be a winnable scenario Like

1217
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: these are not These are not scenarios you want to

1218
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: be And if you want to be able to win

1219
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: at a high level, you know someone the PI is

1220
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: doing a good job of getting these guys to weight

1221
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: classes that were not accessible in a safer way, like

1222
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,439
Speaker 1: in the sense of like what the like what they

1223
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: have to do to go through with the cut. But

1224
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: if you're getting these guys down to these weight classes,

1225
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens when Hooker goes back to one

1226
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: forty five. But in the case of one twenty five here,

1227
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, like obviously this is a very small sample size,

1228
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: but for flyweight anyway. But you know it's to everyone's like, oh,

1229
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: his chin's not the same, okay, man, I mean that's

1230
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: it ain't doing him any favors. I'm with you. I

1231
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: understand the criticism, but you gotta look at the broader

1232
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: picture here, dude, that like, even if that wasn't an issue, man,

1233
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: like you could you can have a great chance to do.

1234
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: If Kai car France lands that fucking right hand on

1235
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: you the way he landed it, I mean, it's gonna

1236
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: hurt a lot of people in that weight class. And

1237
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: it's just over and over and over. Well, he's just

1238
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: getting you know, he's taken every the entire brunt of

1239
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: these things. I don't know what you expect from him

1240
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: if that's the case to me, and that and that

1241
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: the problem with that is, like you know, with a chin.

1242
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: That's a hard problem to solve too. But like you

1243
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: go back to bantamweight and you're like, okay, you can

1244
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: fill out a little bit and whatever. But I've seen

1245
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: guys who didn't have the best chins who really worked

1246
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: on their defense and to varying degrees, paid off. Short

1247
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: of Garbrandt doing that or just becoming like a habi

1248
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: black wrestler, I don't. I don't know what he's supposed

1249
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: to do, And I feel bad even saying that. Dude,

1250
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: I really do. Man like, his troubles don't make my

1251
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: life any better, So I don't. I don't want to,

1252
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to pile along on. But

1253
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: the way he's getting stung, man's bad. It's really bad.

1254
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some of your questions here.

1255
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: If we can at the top, all right, bigger upset

1256
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: Nunaz Penia or MK winning best MMA programming. I would

1257
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: actually argue US winning best at MMA programming, but probably

1258
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: probably Nunez Penia. Yeah, what are the chances Penya's first

1259
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: title defense is against Chivchenko? See that's an interesting question

1260
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: because Dana was just saying the other day he didn't

1261
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: give a shit about Chevchenko. Versus nenas three. But I

1262
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: would favor Schifchenko to beat Penya. One never knows, but

1263
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: I would do that, and uh then they would have

1264
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: to go do that again. But he was saying he

1265
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Speaker 1: didn't want it, so they might do the rematch. I

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01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: guess I don't know. Asking about O'Malley, I'm gonna save

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01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: that for full on MK potential matchups for Dustin or

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01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: Islam dar USh and Gechee Yeah, or Chandler or Chandler.

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01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: So asking a boxing question, I'm gonna skip that. How

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01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: do you think Oliver affairs against a prime Habib? I

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01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: think Habib would be able to out wrestle him safely

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01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: and ground upon him, but it would be interesting. I

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01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: can't see a reason why Dustin rolled out of the

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01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: omal plot. It didn't seem tight enough. No, that the

1275
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: omal plada itself was not hurting him, right, and omal

1276
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: plada is just it's it's a camoro with your legs, right.

1277
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: It's you put the arm where it's not supposed to

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01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: go and then you crank it even further. That's the

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01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: whole idea. No, there was there was no problem there.

1280
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: But if he was getting his weight pulled and he

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01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: didn't want to plant for whatever reason. There may have

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01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: been some kind of issue about him not wanting to

1283
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: plant his hands, which he did in the third round. Anyway,

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01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: I'd have to talk to him. It's a fair question,

1285
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,479
Speaker 1: but I think he felt like his weight was getting pulled,

1286
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: and so if it's gonna pull, he wanted to. He

1287
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: wanted to be in control of which direction it ultimately went.

1288
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a champion in the UFC that

1289
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: takes too much damage and gets dropped like OLIVERA but

1290
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: is and it is sustainable in the long term. Sorry

1291
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: for yawning. I have to look at the Frank mir

1292
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: got hurt a little bit like that and would pull

1293
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: out some big wins, like against Nogare for example. But

1294
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to pull off over time, right because eventually, again,

1295
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: someone's gonna get you Christmas about O'Malley again. I'll save

1296
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: that for regular MK. Is it unfair to think this

1297
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: was more about Amanda not being there than Painters having

1298
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: the right plan for the upset? Yeah? Sure, sure again, dude,

1299
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: if Amanda didn't try rain full on because you know

1300
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: she's more interested in being a mom or you know,

1301
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to blame it on that. I'm just

1302
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: trying to think about things in her life that are,

1303
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, difficult, and as a dad, I can understand,

1304
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: you know how that might get in the way or

1305
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Whatever it is, like, you know, is

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01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: that possible as a way to explain some of the performance. Yeah, sure, sure,

1307
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: I don't think that's any way crazy. Again, it wasn't

1308
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: like you could look on the resume of opinion and

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01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: be like, Oh, she's gonna slug it out in the

1310
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: middle of the of the cage with her and win.

1311
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: You know who the fuck was saying that. It's just

1312
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's not the Amanda at Noon as you know,

1313
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: it's the actual human version has to go and do it.

1314
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: And the human version isn't the caricature you have built

1315
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: in your mind. They are a person with difficulties and

1316
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: feelings and challenges and worries and injuries, and it's it's

1317
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: hard to it's hard to be the caricature that we

1318
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: make them out to be. You're saying Chev is too

1319
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: patient and that didn't work out for her in the rematch.

1320
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: I agree, But Chev is always patient. It's true she

1321
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: often takes five rounds to beat her Seemingly even bigger

1322
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: dogs like Pina high pace against either newness. Chefchenko seems

1323
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: smart but risky. Yeah, it's no doubt risky. But if

1324
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: you're Chefchenko, you've got to find some way to get

1325
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: over that hump. You know. Easier for me to say that,

1326
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 1: but clearly the way she's been doing it has not

1327
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: been sufficient. Seems like Aldo is too close to a

1328
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: title fight to have one with Cruise. It would be kind

1329
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: of fun, though, right at what point should a black

1330
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: belt like Dustin tap back into really working on that

1331
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: part of a skill set seems to be the issue

1332
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: for him at the highest level due I guarantee they

1333
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: worked it. Dog. If you get someone on your back

1334
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: who's good from there, you can work that shit for

1335
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: six months and it may not matter. Like, I don't

1336
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: house that's explain that. You know. Imagine if I had

1337
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: to start with Gordon Ryan on my back, Dude, you

1338
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 1: could give me three years of training. I don't know

1339
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 1: that I would be able to three more years because

1340
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: I've got several under my belt. I don't know that

1341
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: i'd be able to stop it. Like, you know, he

1342
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: got choked by Gabib and Oliver air. I would yes,

1343
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,560
Speaker 1: it's a problem at the highest highest level, but I

1344
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: would caution against thinking that's like a thing he has ignored.

1345
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: Someone says that oliverir is the best fighter in the UFC.

1346
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: I would challenge that a little bit, but he is

1347
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 1: certainly the man. Tonight cruise did look solid. We'll talk

1348
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 1: about him on Monday.

1349
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 2: Uh.

1350
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: Someone says, I think a man is killer instinct was

1351
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 1: left behind. Maybe she had opportunities to inflict damage in

1352
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: the first round but held back just maintaining top position.

1353
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 1: Maybe not a bad point over confidence. I definitely think

1354
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: there might be some of that. Dude, how many people

1355
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: are telling Amanda you're the best, You're most the most amazing, Like, like, no,

1356
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: I you know, this is why the voice in your

1357
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: head is the most important, right, Like you have to

1358
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: have a good internal dialogue with yourself, whether you're a

1359
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 1: professional athlete or anybody else. But can you imagine having

1360
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: the world tell you you're the greatest at your given

1361
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: profession ever? You know, Like, what does that do to you? Again?

1362
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: Maybe that played no role here, I don't know, but

1363
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 1: you have to do that again. The kind of coalition

1364
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 1: of things you need to go right in your life

1365
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: to be a dominant champion, that coalition of things of

1366
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: the right time in your life and no injuries, and

1367
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: your skill set just happened to be what it needs

1368
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,480
Speaker 1: to be for that time. And blah blah blah is fragile.

1369
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: It's very fragile. They can hold it together sometimes, but

1370
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:41,879
Speaker 1: it's fragile. Was it more of a detriment for Garbrand

1371
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: and his loss to Carl France? The lack of defensive

1372
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: skills the weight cut, the flyweight or the inability to

1373
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: absorb strikes of the chin? Buddy, It's all three, It's

1374
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: all three. This person says Cody's chin was never an issue.

1375
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: He took three big hooks in a row from TJ

1376
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: in the rematch, he took several clean hooks from Pedro

1377
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: before going out. Yeah, but at this point you have

1378
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: to ask, did he do damage to it because of

1379
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: those things?

1380
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 2: Not?

1381
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: Just like did he show decent resiliency in them? Now?

1382
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 1: What is the accumulative effect afterwards? Do you think the

1383
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: glove grab it was the swing in the fight? Honestly,

1384
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: it could be. Man. You know, I hate to say

1385
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: it because I don't want to take things away from

1386
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: OLIVERA and I don't even know. I have to go

1387
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: back and look at the tape. I don't even know

1388
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 1: if it's true. But if it is true, it should

1389
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: give people a little bit of pause about it a

1390
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: little bit. Does the Nowns loss hurt Kyla's negotiations? Oh,

1391
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: good question, No, because it's still the It's still the

1392
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: biggest fight for Kayla. It's bigger than the Cyborg fight.

1393
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: But I have to admit it does change the equation

1394
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. Man, Kayla wanted that role. Huh, MMA

1395
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: just won't. MMA just won't follow your It won't. It

1396
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 1: won't conform to your narrow version of things. Just this

1397
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: is not how it works. Why does Herbdan get the

1398
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: referee title fight so often? They love him in Nevada.

1399
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: I guess someone told me yesterday he was looking for me.

1400
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true or not. Did Amanda

1401
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: look off to you tonight? She didn't look like she

1402
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,719
Speaker 1: looked in the home fight. I can say that for sure.

1403
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 1: Is the only way to beat Charles Olavera by a lucky,

1404
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: well timed haymaker, No, a disciplined approach of real good

1405
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: clinch breaking a jab right, slick lateral movement, getting your

1406
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: back off the fence. I think that can beat him,

1407
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 1: but if you start fucking around with that, it won't. Okay,

1408
01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 1: this person says, Reddit has the replay all read and

1409
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: they're saying that there was no glove grab. Again, I

1410
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: am relying on what people are saying. They could be

1411
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: totally trolling me. If there was no glove grab, then

1412
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 1: there's then that's I mean, you can you know he

1413
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: won as clean as it can possibly be. Has there

1414
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: ever been a fight that turned so drastically on such

1415
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: a clear hold of the gloves? Again, you know what

1416
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: people aren't Okay, there's several people saying there was no

1417
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: glove grab. Okay, if there's no glove grab and Rogan

1418
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: just got that wrong, then I don't know what else

1419
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 1: you want me to say, Like we allly thing I

1420
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: needed to figure out is why Dustin rolled the way

1421
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 1: that he did. I make you, I make that you

1422
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: and definitely your co host didn't give Charles his respect

1423
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: as CHAMPCE so we went out there and took that. Yeah,

1424
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: it's true. Well, I mean we definitely knew he'd be

1425
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: a tough customer either way, but I think we both

1426
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: picked against him. So yeah, sure, he is better. He

1427
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: has absolutely been better than I've been able to reasonably

1428
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: ascertain ahead of time, and and and he's proving it.

1429
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 1: He's proving that he is extremely special. I mean, I'm

1430
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: convinced now, But how can justin best prepare for the

1431
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 1: BJJ of Charles. He has to figure out a way

1432
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: to clinch, break and stay, as you know, I want

1433
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 1: to say, as far away as possible, but find a

1434
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: way to maintain a space where he can be dangerous

1435
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: but not be overtaken, because once it becomes a jujitsu match,

1436
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: there's nothing he can do. Pania won this person writes

1437
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 1: with Misha Tate level striking dude. You know, saint, I mean,

1438
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm saint. Pierre got knuckled into the fucking canvas by

1439
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,719
Speaker 1: Matt Sarah. I watched it live happen, Like, yeah, that happens.

1440
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: Do I think Payna is able to beat Chef Chenko

1441
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: and again able to beat Yeah? Do I think that's

1442
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: the likeliest outcome? No? What a card? Yeah, it was

1443
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: pretty good card. You see a Portia going to one

1444
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: seventy now maybe for a fight with Colby for some

1445
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 1: money or something. But no, no, I don't. Okay, that's funny.

1446
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 1: Someone wrote, oh yeah, Shaquille majority wrote no joke. I

1447
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: immediately searched for a resume review after that new nose

1448
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 1: pain a fight. Yeah, several people have made that joke.

1449
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 1: But dude, this is mma. This is what happens. Okay,

1450
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 1: hold on someone's let's see what's up here. Okay, so

1451
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: someone sent me a think to the the Okay, here's

1452
01:15:49,160 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 1: the glove grab. Uh, there's definitely one at first, then

1453
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: he lets it go and then he goes to a

1454
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 1: C grip. Now, once he goes to the C grip,

1455
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: there isn't one, and then he sits up. People are

1456
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: saying that there's maybe the same angle I have. Is

1457
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:29,759
Speaker 1: not so great, I don't.

1458
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I'm not so sure that I.

1459
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 1: I need to see more. I I it's there's definitely

1460
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: a moment where he does have it and then lets

1461
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: it go for a clean grip, and then what he

1462
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: does with his legs. Let me watch his legs here

1463
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 1: for a second, see how he switched this over. They

1464
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: kind of zoom in, so it's hard to tell. Oh,

1465
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 1: so okay, oh this is why Dustin bailed. Now I

1466
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: can see it. So why did Dustin Baiale. So I

1467
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: have a theory based on what I'm seeing here. Forget

1468
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: the glove grap for just a second. So what I'm

1469
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 1: seeing here is that you see Olavera from Humble Plata

1470
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 1: start scooting behind Dustin. Right. There's a lot of like

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Speaker 1: baron bolo type back I'm not saying he was gonna

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Speaker 1: do a baron bolo, but there's a lot of back

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Speaker 1: takes that involve finding yourself in that kind of a position.

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Speaker 1: So you can see him scooting behind, and then Dustin's like,

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Speaker 1: fuck that. If I doesn't want his backtake, and some

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Speaker 1: as we'll just go for guard. That's my hunch of

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Speaker 1: what happened. But let me watch this one more time. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So we switches to the C grit, which is fine.

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Speaker 1: Then he sits up and then he tries to turn behind.

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Speaker 1: It's hard for me to tell. It's hard for me

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Speaker 1: to tell. I'm gonna table this because I don't really

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Speaker 1: have a good answer for the broadcast, and I'm only

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Speaker 1: going to muddy the waters any more than I already have.

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Speaker 1: He definitely lets it go for a time. It's just

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Speaker 1: hard to tell if he reconstitutes it. When he begins

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Speaker 1: to scoop behind Dustin and he tries to overhook Dustin's

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Speaker 1: leg and that's when Dustin begins to roll. I think

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Speaker 1: he was like, fuck this and I want my back taking

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Speaker 1: or him to get behind me or something. But we'll

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Speaker 1: have room for debate on it at a bare minimum, right,

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