1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 6 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: my name is Nolan. 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: They called me Ben. 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 4: We're joined as always with our superproducer Alexis codename Doc 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 4: Holliday Jackson. Most importantly, you are here. That makes this 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 4: the stuff they don't want you to know. Congratulations fellow 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 4: conspiracy realist. We have made it closer to the end 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 4: of February and as a bit of a small celebration 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 4: here we are sharing the stories of our fellow listeners. 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 4: We are going to learn about one of our favorite things, uh, 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 4: fast food conspiracies. 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 5: Uh. 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 4: We are going to dive into an incredibly troubling story 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 4: about uh, about true crime that remains unanswered today. Before 19 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 4: we do any of that, we're going to go to 20 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 4: our voicemail banks with an excellent question about street lights. 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, street what's the song with street lights people? 22 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: Okay, just to find em? 23 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: Is that what it is? 24 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 6: Yeah? 25 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: Well, street lights, guys, let's hear from Matt. Not this 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: one of a different, Matt, traffic lights or street lights? 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: Street lights? Baby, Okay, got it? 28 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, all lights can be street lights. You know 29 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 4: what I mean? 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: These are the lamps that illuminate streets and roads in 31 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: your part of town. 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: Guaranteed. 33 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: Here we go. 34 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 7: Hi, my name's Matt, Matthew matthas all good. I was 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 7: wondering if you can help me research the purples that 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 7: are appearing. 37 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 6: Near like rest areas and main off ramps off of 38 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 6: highways and interstates. I live up in Washington's Olympic Peninsula, 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 6: and I've noticed there's lights close to the Walmart. I 40 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 6: drove my son to Oregon and there's purple lights near 41 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 6: the rest area. And be honest with you, they're quite 42 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 6: helpful because if you know there's purple lights, you can 43 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 6: pull over and hit the rest area. So I was 44 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 6: wondering why nobody talks about it. I talked with my 45 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 6: thirteen year old son about it. You know, the entire drive, 46 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 6: well not the entire drive, but nonetheless, can you help 47 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 6: me figure out what's going on? Because I think it's 48 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 6: a good idea, but some people may not like it. 49 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 6: All right, guys, love your show, haven't missed them one 50 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 6: trust me. It's part of my life that I can't 51 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 6: get rid of, kind of like my finger. So uh, steph, 52 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 6: you don't want to know you're my pinky finger, and 53 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 6: I won't pitch you off ever. All right, love guys, bye. 54 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: Just just don't cross the y. 55 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 4: That's a very very interesting reference, Matt Matthias or Matthew. 56 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Isn't it? 57 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 5: You know? I think the reason that I was confused 58 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 5: or I was asking about traffic lights because in my mind, 59 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 5: I'm like, what if there was a fourth color of 60 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 5: traffic light it was purple and then and then they 61 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 5: were just spontaneously doing that without being programmed. 62 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 3: Or having the right color lens to you, So, oh 63 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: that will is wild. Why wouldn't this be happening? This 64 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: is very interesting. 65 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 4: Also, to be clear, I could have totally been in 66 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: one of these environments and had no idea. 67 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: Ah because of the color. 68 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, well purple would signify turn around, right, so 69 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: it's like go slow down, stop turn around. 70 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: Purple might just be like vibe it, you know, vibe 71 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: it out, feel, vibe it out, you know, situational awareness. 72 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 4: See if the other countries are cool. But this is 73 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 4: not what we're talking about. We're not talking about traffic lights, right, Matt, 74 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 4: we're talking I'm gonna call you Matt Prime for this. 75 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: We're talking about we're talking about just your conventional like 76 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: in the West, you often see iodine sort of colored lights, 77 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 4: right like. 78 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, for a long time, there was a very 79 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: specific kind of orange e glow that street lights had, 80 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 2: and pretty much every city in at least the United 81 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: States a lot of countries states have their own kind 82 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: of thing because everybody's got their own little contracts, right 83 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: with a company that provides specific bulbs for specific light 84 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: fixtures that all get you know, they're all the same, 85 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: and they get set up along all the streets. Often 86 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 2: it's even by a municipality sometimes like it's the local government. 87 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: In this case, we are talking about LED lights, the 88 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: new fangled LED lights that are coming out that everybody's seeing, buddy, 89 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: which I love, by the way, I love the other day. 90 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 5: They don't get hot, they can be like every color. 91 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of the Hue light system. I 92 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 5: got them all over my house and they're really neat 93 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 5: and very powerful. 94 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 4: And that's short for light emitting diode. 95 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's they're electric. I don't know they're electronic lights. Yeah, yeah, 96 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: it's not burning anything, right, And even with an incandescent bulb, 97 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: you're not like those. You're not burning a filament or 98 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: a piece of metal or substance that's in there. It's 99 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 2: just a diode that goes woo, there's light here when 100 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: you shoot, Like. 101 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: Sorry, Cartel, your touch. 102 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 5: It's just so impressive because typically we think of light 103 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 5: as being associated with heat, but not the case with these. 104 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 5: I mean, you can leave the LEDs on indefinitely and 105 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 5: they won't produce any heat at all. 106 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 4: Yes, well I think they have a heat sink, right, 107 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: because they're semiconductors, I guess. 108 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 5: So all I know is that, you know, I can 109 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 5: leave my hue stuff on and it's still remain They 110 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 5: remain cool to the touch. So it's impressive technology, and 111 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 5: it's you know, and they're being used more and more 112 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 5: in film production and then like light shows, and they're 113 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 5: better for the environment because they last a lot longer, 114 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 5: you know, all of that kind of stuff. 115 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 4: But why are they purple? 116 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 3: Though? Yeah, good question? 117 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: Why are they purple? There are a ton of conspiracy 118 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: theories rolling around on ye old Internet about why these 119 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: purple lights are occurring. On interstates and rest what do 120 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: we call rest stations rest areas across the United States. 121 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 2: They've been seen in Washington State, Greensboro, Alabama, Wichita, Kansas, Boston, Massachusetts, 122 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: and yes, boys, Atlanta, Georgia. They've been seen pretty much 123 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: in every major city. And there's a reason for it, 124 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: and it has to do with the way LEDs have 125 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: evolved and the technology used to turn the the light 126 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: that's coming out of the actual that's being emitted from 127 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: the actual LED. How to turn that this pleasant kind 128 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: of bluish white color that we're all kind of now 129 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: used to, or even a slightly more orange white color. Okay, okay, 130 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: so we know RGB. What's RGB, guys. 131 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 5: Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Roy J. 132 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: Bib besides red, black and green, which I think we 133 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: all know is very important, but also there's sorry Ben 134 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: shut out. But it is red, blue green, and that 135 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: is the light spectrum, right, that's how we view light now. 136 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: It was discovered quite a while back that if you 137 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: took a blue LED, right, an LED that is designed 138 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: to give off blue light exclusively, then you put it 139 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: in a bit of a vacuum, right, seal it up 140 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: and inside that vacuum, you put some phosphor, this yellow phosphor, 141 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: you can create this exact hue of white that you're 142 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: looking for. And you only need one blue LED rather 143 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: than a series of LEDs that would create white light 144 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: when it shines through. 145 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 6: Right. 146 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: And the great thing is, guys, you could manufacture that 147 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: white LED light a lot cheaper than if you put 148 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: a more complicated series of LEDs into one bulb. Right, 149 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: So you're gonna save a ton of money and be 150 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: able to sell a cheaper bulb if you use this 151 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: blue LED yellow phosphor combination. And that is a thing 152 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: that a company figured out how to do this. It's 153 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: an Acuity sub brand called American Electric Lighting. Acuity is 154 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: like this huge company that controls a lot of the 155 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: LED game that's going on right now. It's huge. We 156 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: need to actually look into them just a little bit, 157 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: but it's a huge company. American Electric Lighting is their 158 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: sub brand, and they created these LED bulbs, and these 159 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: LED bulbs. Boys, the reason why it's purple, it's so simple, 160 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: and it's really kind of sad. The container that's on 161 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: top of that blue LED is starting to fray and 162 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: break away, so more and more blue light is escaping 163 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: and it's creating this purple hue, so you're still getting 164 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: some of the yellow coverage, which is it's just changing 165 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: the basically the color temperature of the light. 166 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 5: So it's a design flaw essentially in the. 167 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 4: Case not planned ops lessons. 168 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: Well allegedly it's not planned ops lescence according to the 169 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: major stories, and there's not a ton coming out of 170 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: the company Aquit that owns the sub brand, but it 171 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: is just a flaw in the manufacturing process. So they 172 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: these things were supposed to last significantly longer, but they 173 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: did not, And across not only the US, but in Vancouver, 174 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 2: in parts of Canada and other places where these same 175 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 2: bulbs have been shipped, they're all experiencing it. So there's 176 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: basically a great purpling that is occurring and will continue 177 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 2: to occur until these led bulbs get replaced, which is happening, 178 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: by the way, in across the United States. 179 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 5: I don't really fully understand the tech behind this, but 180 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 5: I do know that you know Phillips another you know 181 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 5: Lighting Mega Megalith that makes the hue bulbs. You can 182 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 5: buy bulbs that only do white, and they're significantly cheaper 183 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 5: than the ones that do like every color, which is, 184 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 5: you know, the hue bulbs that I have in my system. 185 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 5: So I'm wondering if it's a similar deal with those 186 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 5: where I guess the color changing ones have some sort 187 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 5: of series of LED lights that can then combine in 188 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 5: various mixes to create whatever color and blend that you're 189 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 5: looking for. 190 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: There are a lot more components in a bulb like that, right, 191 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: which means there are significantly more expensive to manufacture, which 192 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: means the price point for the end user is quite 193 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: a bit higher. Phillips bulbs, they're not as a big 194 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: player in the game anymore because they make these what 195 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: a lot of people consider higher quality bulbs because they're 196 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: more expensive because they're more components within them. These are 197 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: like if you imagine if you've ever been to a 198 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 2: home depot or or Lows are one of those places. 199 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: And I just did this for my parents, like a 200 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: couple of weekends ago. I bought like a sixteen pack 201 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 2: of bulbs, you know, and you're going to replace all 202 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: the bulbs in a house that's got old incandescent. Still, 203 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: they're super cheap compared to like any of the other 204 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 2: major LED bulbs. 205 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 4: Especially if you buy in bulk. 206 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: Right. 207 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 4: I did something recently. I was not caught up with 208 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: light technology because I'm not a friend of the lights. 209 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 4: But but I've found a it's a dumb story. I 210 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: want to be too versatile here, but I'll show you 211 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: guys a picture. I replaced a bunch of lights with 212 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 4: LED ones, and I got the wrong wattage, and so 213 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 4: now it looks like there's a dexter level like crime 214 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 4: scene lit up whenever I turned on this thing in 215 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 4: the kitchen. The idea though with color, it's not hurting anyone, right, 216 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 4: Matt Prime, Then Matt Matthias. 217 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: Well, it's not hurting anyone. And as Matthias said, it 218 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 2: actually was super helpful because I knew where the rest 219 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: areas were because I could see them way down the highway. 220 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 2: I mean, but again, it's kind of the point. The 221 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: point is to be able to see the sign that 222 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: says rest area and to be able to allegedly legibly 223 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: read that and then get to where the rest area is. Sure, 224 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: but you know this is also happening in neighborhoods. So 225 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: you guys, especially here in Atlanta, on some of the streets, 226 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 2: if you're in I'm just trying to think of areas 227 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: like East Atlanta when you're rolling through and there are 228 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: purple lights, and it just looks eerie and strange, like 229 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 2: it shouldn't be that. 230 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 5: Way, especially on a foggy night, which is. 231 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: Why there are conspiracy theories like, oh, they're marking. They're 232 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: marking areas of like high vaccinations, or they're marking areas. 233 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: It's everywhere. There's all kinds of theories out there about 234 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: what these purple lights could mean. Some of them said, uh, 235 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: what was one. Oh, if you've received the vaccine, you 236 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 2: will glow underneath these purple lights, and that's how that 237 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: and receive five G. 238 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 4: I like how straightforward that is, you know, it's very efficacious. Also, 239 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 4: I think I know the part of East Atlanta that 240 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: you're talking about, Matt and our Fair Metropolis. I thought 241 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 4: the lights were blue because I had earlier, oh god, 242 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 4: years back, I had you know, I couldn't tell if 243 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: they were purple, but I had been in a blue 244 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 4: street light situation. You guys know, I'm activitate quite often, 245 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 4: and I've found like. 246 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: Those are red lights. 247 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 3: Men. 248 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 4: You would have to tell You would have to be 249 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 4: there to tell me, because I wouldn't know. But I 250 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: could see blue. Okay, Uh, there's the there's this thing 251 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 4: that's been going for a number of years. There is 252 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 4: a widespread belief that a couple of municipalities in the world, 253 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 4: particularly in East Asia and uh, I want to say 254 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 4: Western Europe, replace their typically yellow street lights with blue 255 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: lights in an attempt to reduce crime and also suicide rates. 256 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 4: Have you guys ever heard that? 257 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 5: No, I guess it reminds me of those lights that 258 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 5: people buy and places where it stays dark for early 259 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 5: long time to keep you from being depressed the sad. 260 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it does remind me of some of the psychologies, 261 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: the psychological studies on color, like with restaurants and element. 262 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 3: Yellows and hungry. 263 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: It's interesting to me, like, I wonder how hard that 264 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: science is, but but it is, you know, it seems 265 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: like something to rock hard. 266 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 4: So it's like Tokyo, Tokyo and Glasgow in Scotland. Well, 267 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: Tokyo and Japan, Glasgow in Scotland. Sorry, apologies if there's 268 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 4: a town called Glasgow, Japan. You know, we all need 269 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 4: to learn more about geography, I guess. But I read 270 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 4: that this this delations purposeful installation of blue colored street 271 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: lights had reduced crime. And so when I first heard 272 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: this idea you introduced this to Matt Prime and Matthias 273 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 4: about purpling of lights, I wondered whether it was purpleseful 274 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 4: give me that, give me that, uh, give me that. 275 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,479 Speaker 5: I was going to ask too, I'm speaking of lighting conspiracies. 276 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 5: Are are incandescent bulbs still being produced? And if so, yes, 277 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 5: what is the reason for purchasing those? Ever over the 278 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 5: much more cost effective and energy efficient LED. 279 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 4: Bulbs short form affordability? It just costs less that at 280 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 4: the front it hazard. 281 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 5: Because you know, I mean, for a while, there was 282 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 5: probably resistance uh not to make an electrical pun two 283 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 5: LED bulbs, you know from more lets. I guacy manufacturers 284 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 5: until they were able to get on the LED train themselves, 285 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 5: and then you know, start pivoting their business model to those. 286 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: I'll just give you an example of my parents. Literally 287 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: a couple of weekends ago, I went up there. I 288 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: noticed that several of their bulbs were out up in 289 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: their upstairs bedroom, and I was like, huh, that's weird. 290 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna hey, mom, do you have any more lights? 291 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 6: Mom? 292 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: You got lights? She's like, oh, yeah, I got some bulbs. 293 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: She brings to me a box of bulbs that I 294 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: think she's had since nineteen ninety six or something, and 295 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: they are all incandescent bulbs. And I go and I 296 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: unscrew a couple in the bedroom. They're all incandescent bulbs. 297 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: I'm just like, what is happening here? 298 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: Did you not get the memo? 299 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: And she had a box full of working incandescent bulbs 300 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: that she just kept around that for one reason or another. 301 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: I guess they just if you buy like a pack 302 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: of four, but you only need two or three, the 303 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: extra one goes in this box or something. I wonder 304 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: how many people are still, you know, doing that. 305 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 5: Working through their giant bulk purchases these replacement balls. 306 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 307 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 5: Surprising they lasted that long, though, Matt, Dude, you know, 308 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 5: because they typically don't have that long of a life. 309 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 2: I'm being facetious when I say since ninety six. 310 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 5: I mean, it's really quite insane how much longer led 311 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 5: bulbs last. I mean it's borderline like forever. It's kind 312 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 5: of crazy how long those things last. 313 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agreed. So really, guys, in conclusion, there's 314 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: not much to this. I highly recommend everybody read The 315 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: Great Purpling from Adam Rodgers, writing for Business Insider, was 316 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 2: published on November twenty ninth, twenty twenty two. Fantastic read 317 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: The Great Purpling, and according to that, reports of these 318 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 2: purple street lights have been coming through since twenty twenty, 319 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: roughly from everywhere, from Ireland, Florida, North Carolina, New Mexico. 320 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: Just everybody is getting these lights. So I don't think 321 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: it's anything to worry about. 322 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 5: It really more speaks to the skin ale of the 323 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 5: company that we're talking about, which is probably one reason 324 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 5: why it's smart to be smart on our end to 325 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 5: look into that. You know, when you have like a 326 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 5: company like that that's just spreading their wares, you know, 327 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 5: internationally like that and then has this inherent design flaw 328 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 5: that starts to get people freaking out. 329 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 4: And I'm concused myself, but I think it's super cool. 330 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 6: You know. 331 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say good. 332 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: If I can't see it, it sounds awesome. 333 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: Well, to Ben's point, like, should we have some cities 334 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: that are this like black light kind of color or 335 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: a city that's like got it's a laser tag, you know, yeah, 336 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: like that's this is the hue of what Charleston South Carolina. 337 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 5: That's a really good idea interesting choice. It's like the 338 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 5: choice of Christmas decorations in a downtown municipality. 339 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 3: Right, I don't know. 340 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: I think it would be cool identity. What would your 341 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 2: cities color be? Let us know. We'll tell you how 342 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: to contact us at the end of this. We'll be 343 00:18:54,800 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 2: right now, sponsors. 344 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 5: And we've returned with another message from you. This message 345 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 5: comes to us from k Night k and I ght. 346 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: I think that's a nickname. But this is a fun one. 347 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 3: Here we go. 348 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 5: Hey, guys, love the podcast. I've got a funny one 349 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 5: for you. I've worked jobs wherein my car was my desk. 350 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 5: Driving around involved taking my lunches at various fast food 351 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 5: joints to save time. During COVID years, I found myself 352 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 5: noticing a weird trend. Mind you, this is purely anecdotal, 353 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 5: but when I would order extra ranch at places like 354 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 5: Burger King, I'd almost always have to go back inside 355 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 5: after it was left out of my bag, or would 356 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 5: just huff to myself a disappointment and drive away in 357 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 5: defeat with my sauceless fries. Supply chain shortages were and 358 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 5: still are a thing, but I started to wonder do 359 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 5: some restaurants do this on purpose? Do some big chains 360 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 5: do this to make millions? Here's where it gets interesting. BK, 361 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 5: that's Burger King charges anywhere from ten to twenty five 362 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 5: cents per ranch pack. I imagine other drive through restaurants 363 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 5: are comparable. Let's assume some math here, based on at 364 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 5: least some realism. BK sells two point one billion whoppers 365 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 5: per year. Let's assume roughly half of them are meals 366 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 5: with a medium fry. Let's then assume about a quarter 367 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 5: of those are meals with an extra sauce, Because what 368 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 5: monster eats fries without sauce. That's two hundred and sixty 369 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 5: two million, five hundred thousand BK meals with sauce added 370 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 5: on at for simple mathsake, an average of ten cents 371 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 5: per ranch or buffalo, et cetera dipping sauce. That's a 372 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 5: profit margin of twenty six million, two hundred and fifty 373 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 5: thousand dollars on sauce. And I imagine the sauce is 374 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 5: peanuts on the margins to produce. Let's say for each 375 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 5: ten cent ranch pack, a penny was needed to produce it. 376 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 5: That still leaves us with an incredible net profit of 377 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 5: over twenty million on sauce backs sold per year. If 378 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 5: you're burger king in the midst of a supply chain shortage. However, 379 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 5: would you really want to be making twenty million when 380 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 5: you could recoup the lost funds by basically selling the 381 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 5: sauce and not giving it out. Let's imagine as a 382 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 5: hypothetical that one out of every ten customers is accidentally 383 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 5: robbed of their sauce due to a drive through worker 384 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 5: honestly forgetting to add it. Let's be honest, they are 385 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 5: doing intense work on their feet on the daily and 386 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 5: genuinely forget about sauces at times. Let's also assume for 387 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 5: complicated orders, another sauce on average is lost. Then let's 388 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 5: assume a manager, to make up lost revenue, encourages its 389 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 5: staff to forget on purpose one sauce per ten customers. 390 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 5: That brings us to seven sauces per ten ordered actually 391 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 5: landing in the bag. That's thirty percent of the sauce 392 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 5: profit million, eight hundred and seventy five thousand dollars being 393 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 5: forgotten on purpose or with intention that that will be 394 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 5: sold at that price without a need for profit loss 395 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 5: due to supply. In essence, BK makes more than the 396 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 5: twenty six million on the sauce. They make the grand 397 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 5: total of over thirty million as a result of leaving 398 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 5: it out of thirty percent of orders. This is a 399 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 5: certified lost in the sauce moment that I thought you 400 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 5: might enjoy. Feel free to call me Kilo on the air. Okay, 401 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 5: there we go, where Kylo is what we were calling 402 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 5: our friend here And if you use this and feel 403 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 5: free to include everything above and wordsmith its if you 404 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 5: need to keep up the great work. 405 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: Figured this oddity of an idea would be. 406 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 5: A nice respite from some of the more serious stuff 407 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 5: take care woo interesting stuff. I mean, yeah, when you 408 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 5: think about the scale of these types of you know, restaurants, 409 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 5: these international conglomerates, and I never really thought about how 410 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 5: the sauce adds up. I certainly have been to places 411 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 5: that don't, at least on paper, charge you for every sauce. 412 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 5: But there are certainly places that do you ask for 413 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 5: extra sauce. And if you actually take the time to 414 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 5: look at your itemized receipt, you'll see a couple of 415 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 5: ten cent charges or whatever for the sauce. 416 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 3: And especially if you're. 417 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 5: At, like maybe a slightly more bespoke or upper end 418 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 5: fast food place, they'll definitely charge you for the sauce, 419 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 5: especially if they have like branded you know, you know, 420 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 5: nice kind of proprietary sauces, like a Chick fil A 421 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 5: or what have you. But what do you guys make 422 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 5: of this idea of intentional leaving out of the sauce 423 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 5: in order to recoup some of this stuff. 424 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it's a little bit of 425 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 3: a stretch. 426 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 5: I think it's interesting to think about that. 427 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 4: It is perhaps conspiratorial, and Kylo, I really appreciate your 428 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 4: time here. It is, however, quite plausible in that we 429 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 4: remember the franchise model rules of today, such that a 430 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 4: lot of fast food enterprises, though they may seem uniform, 431 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 4: are little fiefdoms regionally of their own. And that's why 432 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 4: you hear little taglines like with participating locations right for 433 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 4: any kind of deal, because ultimately those franchisees can make 434 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 4: the decision over what gets charge. I also could argue 435 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 4: like this is plausible due to the concept of shrink flation. 436 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 4: You know, remember when nuggets went from x number to 437 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 4: y number in some locations. That's because you know, increasingly 438 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 4: As food cost skyrocket here in the US, people are 439 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 4: going to fast food locations less often. It's kind of weird, 440 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 4: you know, we see this trend that's been going on, 441 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 4: like definitely definitely escalating during the pandemic. So I would say, 442 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 4: is Burger king overall, Like are they having boardroom meetings 443 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 4: where they're like, we got to start screwing people over 444 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 4: on the sauces? Probably probably not, but are franchisees maybe 445 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 4: doing that to save cost? I think it's quite well 446 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 4: because we talked about it in the past. The restaurant 447 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 4: business is tough. It's cut through and those margins are 448 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 4: pretty slim unless you get to like Michelin star level. 449 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 5: And Matt, I know you had a theory here or 450 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 5: you were this was an incredulous I think maybe you were. 451 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 5: You were a little skeptical. But I also want to 452 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 5: point out that there are some overarching corporations that have 453 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 5: a much stronger grasp over what their franchisees do and 454 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 5: don't do. You know, where you really have to like 455 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 5: fall in line and like do the things, do the promotions. 456 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 5: And you're right, Ben, there are others where it is 457 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 5: participating locations et cetera. But then you have stuff like 458 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 5: Chick fil A, where I mean the uniformity in those 459 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 5: locations are pretty across the board, you know. But Matt, 460 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 5: what are your thoughts here on? Well, what could possibly 461 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 5: be going on? Is this good intentioned forgetfulness, you know, 462 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 5: or is there something deeper at play? 463 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: I just would agree with what Ben was saying. I 464 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: think you cannot account for the individual actions of someone 465 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: who was working the line on burger king, you know, 466 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 2: somebody who just may accidentally forget that one, but wouldn't 467 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: forget the sauce every time, but once every twenty four 468 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 2: forty orders forgets to put the sauce in the bag 469 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: or something, right, I think that's what it is. That's 470 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: what I've experienced. Sometimes I get a sauce, sometimes I don't. 471 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't feel like there's any big 472 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: money grab here, because the money grab is charging ten 473 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 2: to twenty five cents for a sauce packet like what 474 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: Zaxby's does. Now that's another franchise, another brand. 475 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 5: Well, and that probably just largely offsets the sauces that 476 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 5: they give away for free, you know what I mean, 477 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 5: when they are able to recoup some of that by charging, 478 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 5: because I've certainly been in situations where, again because of 479 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 5: the individual choice or action of the employee, you aren't 480 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 5: charged for the sauce, or perhaps you had to wait 481 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 5: a little bit long, so they give you some sauces 482 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 5: for free or whatever it might be, just to make 483 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 5: you happy. But I'm also I think what I'm most 484 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 5: taken by with this email is just all of the 485 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 5: sauce math. I guess I never really thought about how 486 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 5: much the sauces add up in theory, if you're charging 487 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 5: what they actually you know, are supposed to charge for them, 488 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 5: and then what the margins are on those sauces, because 489 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 5: you know, individual packaging, as we know, is a quite 490 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 5: wasteful and b can add up as well. 491 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: But it's a little weird because the cost of producing 492 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: that sauce per ounce or whatever is worked into I 493 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 2: would say in this I'm spitballing here, but I would say, 494 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: is worked into the cost of that meal that you're buying, 495 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: or that's at those fries that you're ordering or whatever. 496 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: And they're doing that on purpose, and they're probably slightly 497 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 2: overestimating that would be the smart move, right because it's 498 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 2: going to be negligible for the end user. You're gonna 499 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: pay like five cents twenty cents more. It's not even 500 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: gonna be a full twenty cents more. It'll be like 501 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: five cents more. 502 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 5: And we also know about how like you know, companies 503 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 5: at this level of scale have things like breakage built 504 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 5: in to their formulas about like things that don't get 505 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 5: charged or they get stolen or whatever it might be. 506 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 5: You know, like there's gonna be some stuff that's gonna 507 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 5: fall off and that that's not going to ultimately be 508 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 5: a source of revenue, you know, because of just the 509 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 5: again the individual actions, and you're moving quickly. Like you said, 510 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 5: these folks are very busy. They're working really hard and 511 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 5: doing a lot of manual labor on their feet, and 512 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 5: sometimes they might forget to put the sauce in completely unintentionally. 513 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 5: But again, sometimes I've gotten bags from fast few places 514 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 5: where they give you way too much sauce, you know, 515 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 5: like then catch up packets, and I'm not I'm ashamed 516 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 5: to say it, but it's just true that end up 517 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 5: in the trash. And I almost wish they wouldn't give 518 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 5: you that unless you requested it, because it feels wasteful 519 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 5: on your part. 520 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 3: As a consumer. 521 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 5: I said, I've put those things in the fridge, but 522 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 5: then I'm like, I'm not going to use these sauces 523 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 5: that are in my fridge. 524 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: It's just not going to happen. 525 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 5: So I end up throwing them away when I'm clearing 526 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 5: out my fridge later. 527 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: I wonder if anybody else out there is getting the 528 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: I don't know what you call this. I'm feeling an 529 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: aversion to the word sauce right now, and I don't 530 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: know why, but every every time we're saying it now, 531 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: my body is irking. 532 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 5: Sauce me up, baby. I don't know, is catch up 533 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 5: a sauce? I guess technically, what does a sauce make a. 534 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: Sauce the same thing? I don't know. 535 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 5: These are the important questions to keep us up at 536 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 5: night here and stuff they don't want you to know. Well, Kilo, 537 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 5: definitely some food and sauce for thought here. So we 538 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 5: kinda let Matt cringe his way into this here break 539 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 5: and then we're gonna come back with one more message 540 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 5: from you. 541 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 4: And we have returned with a couple more messages. First, 542 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 4: want to go to Curious in Seaattle. Curious in Seattle. 543 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 4: You said, Hello, love your show. Have you ever done 544 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 4: a deep dive into Thomas Wales, virual prosecutor was murdered 545 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 4: in his Seattle home in two thousand and one, the 546 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 4: case which remains unsolved to this day. Quick response, We 547 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 4: have not Curious in Seattle, and thank you for bringing 548 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 4: this to our attention. Curious, you continue saying, it's been 549 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 4: so hard to keep up with the theories and plot 550 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 4: twist and speculation of FBI informants and cover ups over 551 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 4: the years, wondering if you have any thoughts. Let's start there. 552 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 4: Have you guys heard the story of Thomas Crane Wales. 553 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 5: No, but on a cursory Google it does seem that 554 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 5: he was a big advocate for gun control, and I 555 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 5: can only imagine that some of the conspiracy theories surrounding 556 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 5: his demise might target folks that are not you know, 557 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 5: about gun control, Matt. 558 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 4: Is this one familiar to you? 559 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: No, I'm checking it out the FBI website right now. Yeah, 560 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: all about it. 561 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, they have an open balance for information leading to 562 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 4: leading to leaning to a conviction. The United States DOJ 563 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 4: is offering a word up to two million dollars leading 564 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 4: to the arrest and conviction of people responsible for the 565 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 4: murder of this official. So let's go to the night 566 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 4: of October eleventh, two thousand and one. It's a little 567 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 4: bit before eleven pm. Thomas Crane Wales is in the 568 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 4: basement of his home in Seattle, Washington, where he is 569 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 4: currently working as an assistant US attorney, and he's been 570 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 4: in that job for almost two decades. He's mainly focused 571 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 4: on white collar crime cases. He was shot several times 572 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 4: through the window of his basement office as he was 573 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 4: sitting by his desk writing on his computer. This doesn't 574 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 4: immediately kill him. He expires at a hospital the next day. 575 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 4: And to this year right now, in the beginning of 576 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, this has never been solved. As we 577 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 4: pointed out earlier, he was involved in gun control. But 578 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 4: I got to tell you, guys, this is ping in 579 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 4: my spidy sense. For everything that I've read about the story, 580 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 4: it feels like there's something fishy at play, because whoever 581 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 4: killed him was clearly executing a hit. It's fair to 582 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 4: say like they knew enough about the layout of the 583 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 4: house to avoid certain indicators they knew also, I don't know, 584 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 4: but they also made dumb mistakes, like they left shell 585 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 4: casings from the pistol behind. 586 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 5: Interesting make of pistol, right, a Makarov pistol that apparently 587 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 5: had some sort of aftermarket barrel. And I believe this 588 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 5: individual was a big proponent of things like trigger locks. 589 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 5: It was behind a referendum that would have required owners 590 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 5: to use trigger lock and he was president of an 591 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 5: organization called Ceasefire. So it does feel like the type 592 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 5: of stuff that this killer used indicates that they would 593 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 5: have been someone who vehemently opposed everything that this individual 594 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 5: stood for. 595 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: Well, politically, it would be a pretty smart thing to 596 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: use as cover, right, someone to go killing look like a. 597 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,719 Speaker 3: Gun nut, just angry and you know, yeah. 598 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 4: The FBI had a similar I don't want to say 599 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 4: that was their conclusion yet, but they had a similar contemplation. 600 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 4: I want to give a big thanks to the journalist 601 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 4: over at the Seattle Times who you point out as 602 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 4: well Curious in Seattle, especially Mike Carter, who had a 603 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 4: piece that was originally published in twenty sixteen, and these 604 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 4: pieces still remain relevant because there has been no results 605 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 4: in the investigation. There are a couple people that I 606 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 4: should say law enforcement liked for this, including an airplane 607 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 4: pilot who is living in Bellevue or Bellevue, and this 608 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 4: guy was prosecuted by Wales before Wales was killed. It's 609 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 4: going back and forth. But this is like an active 610 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 4: mystery that has not been solved. Cartels have been accused. 611 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 4: There have also been lots of allegations of conspiracy, and 612 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 4: I'm pretty convinced at this point they'll still got some 613 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 4: strings out there. I'm pretty convinced that there is a 614 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 4: group of people who knows the identity of the shooter, 615 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 4: and I think the FBI might know who they are, 616 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 4: but they can't move yet. Does that sound implausible? 617 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 5: Not implausible at all, No, quite the opposite. There's an 618 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 5: interesting little tidbit too about an FBI informant but who 619 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 5: said that like his cell mate of his copped to 620 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 5: the murder, but then upon being on the receiving end 621 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 5: of a lie detector test, that was believed to have 622 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 5: been a fabricated story. But again, we also know light 623 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 5: detective tests are kind of pseudos. 624 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 4: You're talking about Scott Lee Kimball. 625 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 5: Scott Lee Kimball who apparently was to be a serial 626 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 5: killer and FBI and format. 627 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 3: That's a weird mix. 628 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also not uncommon for somebody who's already 629 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 2: incarcerated to cop to something. 630 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 4: They'll do it for a hot lunch. 631 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, unfortunately, just to break the boredom. 632 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 4: And so the information that we have discussed so far 633 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 4: is incredibly easy to find. It's like in the Wikipedia articles. 634 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 4: You don't even have to go to the talk tab. 635 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 4: But the one of the other issues here is the 636 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 4: idea of tracing back the firearms. Right we talked about 637 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 4: that replacement gun barrel. You know, one of the big 638 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 4: parts of the investigation into this two thousand and one 639 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 4: assassination has been tracking down over two thousand and five 640 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 4: hundred replacement gun barrels. And that's entirely because it may 641 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 4: be it may be the break that investigators need in 642 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 4: the case. And over the past fifteen years, FBI has 643 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 4: been able to track down all of those gun barrels. 644 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 4: There's like two thousand and six hundred to their very 645 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 4: first buyer, who is either a gun dealer or purchaser. 646 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 4: And the problem is they still didn't get an answer 647 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 4: from it, so they don't know, Like it gets to 648 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 4: a point where you don't know where else to look, 649 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 4: which is why the reward for information keeps raising and raising. 650 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 5: What would be the reason for replacing a barrel to 651 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 5: increase the range or something like that, or would it 652 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 5: be to obfuscate, you know, the original purchase so that 653 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 5: you would because of the as we know, like barrels 654 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 5: have different striations on bullets, and if you have an 655 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 5: aftermarket barrel, then it would no longer be associated with 656 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 5: whatever the original like logged purchase might be. Is that 657 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 5: sort of the idea or maybe there's ucasion of the two. 658 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 5: You can replace it to improve accuracy. People have to 659 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 5: replace it to improve safety because you know, a firearm 660 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 5: and get a lot of wear. We're talking cracks, bulges, erosion. 661 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 5: We're not firearm. 662 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 4: Experts, but there are absolutely legitimate reasons to replace a barrel. 663 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 4: And it's strange because I'm looking through this case curious 664 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 4: in Seattle, and what I'm finding is that the FBI 665 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 4: never really gave up on it, even when the leads 666 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 4: were increasingly sparse or increasingly dead ends. They do think 667 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 4: right now, or at least as sorry several years ago now. 668 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 4: But as of twenty eighteen, the FBI concluded that there 669 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 4: was a contract killer, There was an active operative, a 670 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 4: professional hit man or a hit person who did the 671 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 4: deed here. 672 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 5: Is that what would put this in the jurisdiction of 673 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,720 Speaker 5: the FBI, the idea that it was a contract killer 674 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 5: hired to assassinate a public official. 675 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 4: I think it's more so that he was an assistant 676 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 4: US attorney. I think this would be the only assassination 677 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 4: of someone in that position in the history of the 678 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 4: United States. 679 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 2: Is it weird that it's exactly one month to the 680 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: day September eleven attacks. 681 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 4: I think that's I'm glad you bring that up, Matt, 682 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 4: because there's also there's also the question of noise, like 683 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 4: why don't more people know about this investigation. There are 684 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 4: a lot of things that happened around two thousand. 685 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 2: Don't know, that's weird to me. Okay, everything's fine. 686 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 4: Everything's five. 687 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 3: Is this an episode, guys? This is interesting. 688 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying at the top. I do 689 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 4: believe this is an episode. We know that right now 690 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 4: there are there are still active questions to be answered. 691 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 4: There was there was something that really stood out to me. 692 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 4: There was an FBI official who didn't give their name, 693 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 4: they were reported as an official quote familiar with the investigation, 694 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 4: who said there is a very small group of people 695 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 4: who knows what happened, and they never talk about it. 696 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 4: So it sounds like it sounds like that pilot that 697 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 4: I mentioned earlier, who was a strong suspect, sounds like 698 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 4: he hasn't been really named in a lot of public 699 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 4: reporting because he wasn't officially charged. So it's something where again, 700 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 4: if you're one of the good guys, you have to 701 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 4: fight by good guy rules. 702 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 3: Did you mention Ben? 703 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 5: In two thousand and seven, the FBI slashed the staff 704 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,959 Speaker 5: assigned to this case down to just two. 705 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 4: I alluded to that earlier with the way they trimmed 706 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 4: down stuff as the. 707 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 5: Is that an indications you know what's going on or 708 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 5: that it's no longer a priority? 709 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 3: That was my wondering. 710 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 4: It's indicative of the battle over resources, Like how how 711 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 4: many hours of professional work can we put into something? 712 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 4: Is the question they have to ask, and unfortunately the 713 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 4: question they have to answer at every annual review. I 714 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 4: don't know. This really caught me curious because I had 715 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 4: not heard of this, and it sounds like none of 716 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 4: us had. It does very much feel like an episode 717 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 4: in the future, unless unless we can solve it right now. 718 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 4: Can anybody anybody solve it? 719 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 3: We need no probably not work shopping on this one. 720 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: Guys, do you ever just sit in your house with 721 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 2: a light on when it's super dark outside, just to 722 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 2: like be a tempt the hit man outside? Come on, 723 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 2: let's let's go. 724 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 4: I sit in the dark inner room next to a 725 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 4: room with the light on. 726 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 5: Smart decoy. I late prone typically. Yeah, you guys, watch 727 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 5: Mister and Missus Smith. By the way, the new uh 728 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 5: Donald Glover reimagining of that movie with Brad Pitt and 729 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:05,959 Speaker 5: what's her face? 730 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 3: Angelina Jolie. 731 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 2: It's really good. 732 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 3: And there's a whole episode with Ron Pearlman where. 733 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 5: There's like they're protecting him and they're in this house 734 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 5: and there's a potential of assassins, you know, shooting through 735 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 5: windows and they have to be really thoughtful about the 736 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 5: lights and all of that stuff. But I think it's 737 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 5: really good, you guys, I highly recommend checking it out. 738 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 4: And with the case of whales here, we know that 739 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 4: there are I didn't understand this either. There are more 740 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 4: investigative files and documents about this than there are over 741 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 4: the n Ron case. WHOA do you remember the n 742 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 4: Run case? You guys? 743 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 2: Of course? 744 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, in a movie about that, right. 745 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 2: Well, save it, Let's do an entire thing. This is 746 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 2: a massive discussion. 747 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 5: Yes, I think so too. Yeah, we got the micro 748 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 5: version out of the way. Let's go for the macro 749 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 5: version and a podcast platform near you very soon. 750 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll cut it off here. Thank you for tuning in, everybody. 751 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 4: We can't wait to hear from you. We'd love to 752 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 4: share your stories with your fellow conspiracy realist. Thank you 753 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 4: to Kylo, Thank you to Matthias, Thank you to Curious 754 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 4: in Seattle. If you would like to join the show, 755 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 4: we can't wait to have you. 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