WEBVTT - Protect yourself after data breach, free PC cleaners & Apple’s China challenge (123 , May 31, 2025) 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:04.320 A massive data breach. What you need to know and do? 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:08.960 A popular app finally makes its way to the iPad 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:13.080 fifteen years later, and the iPhone sixteen takes the crown. 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:17.120 It's now the world's best selling smartphone. Plus your tech 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:20.599 questions answered? What's going on? I'm Rich DeMuro and this 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:24.120 is Rich on Tech. This is the show where I 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.640 talk about the tech stuff I think you should know about. 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.760 It's also the place where I answer your questions about technology. 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.920 I believe the tech should be interesting, useful and fun. 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.160 Let's open up those phone lines at triple eight rich 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.320 one oh one. 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Can't wait to have 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:19.959 him on and later in the show, we've got ed Bot, 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:24.560 longtime tech journalists covering all things Microsoft. We're going to 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.280 talk about everything you need to know about the end 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.679 of Windows ten, upgrading to Windows eleven, and all the 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:35.440 changes that are happening with that process. Well, I hope 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.160 you're having a fantastic day wherever you are, and thanks 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:41.399 for tuning in. Maybe you're listing on KFI AM six 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:44.360 forty in Los Angeles or seven to ten WR in 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.119 New York City, or maybe one of our many affiliates 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:51.320 across the country catching the podcast or streaming the first 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.160 ten minutes of the show for free on the KTLA 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.960 plus app. However you are joining me, thank you for 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:01.920 being here. I really mean that. Well, it wouldn't be 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.400 another week in technology if we didn't have another massive 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:08.120 data breach. This time one hundred and eighty four million 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:12.320 logins and passwords are just floating around on the Internet, 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:18.520 discoverable by anyone. This was found by cybersecurity researcher Jeremiah Fowler. 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:23.120 So this database was found online without any password or encryption, 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:29.760 and it contains nearly fifty gigabytes of emails, usernames and passwords, 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.120 and there are credentials for big name sites out there. 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:39.160 We're talking Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Roadblocks, and much more. The 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:43.640 data includes logins to everything from bank accounts to government portals. 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.240 This is a big one. It's a lot of stuff, 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:50.679 and the breach is linked to malware called info stealer, 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:55.360 and this malware steals your login info from your computer, cookies, 0:02:55.840 --> 0:03:01.639 even screenshots potentially, and cyber criminals love this stuff. Why 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:03.840 is it dangerous? You might say, Oh, come on, they 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:06.800 got one one password that I don't use anymore. Nope, 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:08.640 they probably have a lot of stuff. Because here's what 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.160 they do with this information. They take it and they 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.680 use it for something called credential stuffing, which means the 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:18.120 chances are you have used that same password at a 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.480 variety of counts of accounts online. So even though they 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.400 found a password to some random photo sharing site or 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.160 photoprinting site that you signed up four years ago, they 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.560 have a hunch that I wonder if that person used 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.720 that same password at other sites. And what they do 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.680 is they go in and they try that username and 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:38.839 password on a whole bunch of other sites to see 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:41.120 if any of them stick and if they can get in. 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.800 This means they can take over your account. They can 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:44.720 use it for phishing. 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.000 They can send you an email that says, hey, we've 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.800 got this password, we know you're using it, and you 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.880 know they could try to trick you into logging in 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:56.520 to fix something. They can also get into your email 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.320 account if they have something like a Microsoft or a 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:00.240 Google log in. 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:02.960 Imagine how much stuff is in your email account. 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:07.240 People store all kinds of sensitive information in there, tax forms, 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:12.680 medical documents, contracts, very very sensitive info. So you can 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:16.040 check to see if your information was exposed. Not necessarily 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.080 for this database just yet. I haven't seen this one 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:21.359 put up online on one of these checkers, but the 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:26.640 common websites. Have I been pned? Have I been poned? Pwned? 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:30.000 Dot com? This site just got a major makeover, and 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.880 we've had the Troy Hunt, the guy who runs it 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.600 on this show. You pop in your email address and 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:40.080 basically it will tell you if it's been involved in 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.320 any of these breaches, and the redesign is much faster. 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.839 It's really nice, Like I just popped mine in, says 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:49.279 thirty one data breaches. And what's interesting is it now 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.480 does it as a timeline so you can see all 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:56.440 the different databases that your information showed up in over 0:04:56.480 --> 0:05:00.120 the years, going all the way back for me to 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.600 June twenty twelve. And then it talks about the paste 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.440 records where your information is in just one of these 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.440 public data dumps like we just talked about, and so 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:14.159 it even tells you where it found January eighth, twenty nineteen. 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:18.720 This next list combo list share than this other. I mean, 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.200 there's two other ones, and it's just wild. So there's 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.560 a lot of information on here that you can see 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.760 where your data and how it was leaked. So for instance, 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.920 there was a national public data which we talked about 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:35.440 a lot, trello at and t minted chat books. These 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.320 are all the things that I used over the years. 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:42.359 Signed up for MGM, and now it is of course 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:46.560 on the Greater Web. So here's what you need to do. 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.640 You really need to number one, be aware of this information. 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:53.719 Number two, you need to lock down your most important 0:05:53.720 --> 0:06:00.400 accounts with unique passwords and unique logins and two factor authentication. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.080 So if you're looking for a password manager, there are 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.599 many many choices out there. They've got them built into 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.600 Google with Chrome, they've got it built into the iPhone 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.520 with the Passwords app. Here's why I don't necessarily like 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:16.320 using the built in stuff because if they get your Chrome, 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.080 if they get your Google, if they get your iPhone, 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.279 your Apple ID, they may get access to all of 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.360 your passwords. Because now they've figured out how to get 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.200 onto your phone, why wouldn't they just open up that 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:30.000 passwords app. So for that reason, I like using a 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.720 third party app that is sort of disconnected from the 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:33.960 other stuff, and. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:35.120 There are so many out there. 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:39.360 Bitwarden is excellent if you are just looking for a 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.360 free password manager. I don't even know how this thing 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.840 is free because it's so good that it puts all 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.760 these other password managers, Like, why would you pay sixty 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.080 to eighty bucks a year when you could just get 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.479 this for free. I know I'm the only person that 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.440 says that in the world. But Bitwarden is really really good. 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.760 Of course, there are others. Nord pass is good one password. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.200 I mean, there's so many. You can choose any of 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.440 them if you want to pay. There are benefits to 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.720 paying as well. But Bitwarden will do the basics for free, 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.320 and it is basic, but it does everything you need 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:15.440 run antivirus, so Windows security. It's built into your computer. 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.000 If you've got a Windows computer, just type in on 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:21.360 the search bar Windows Security, and then you'll see where 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.120 it's got security at a glance where it says virus 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.000 in threat protection. Do a quick scan. Make sure your 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.720 computer is not at risk because they talked about this 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.080 malware that they installed, Infostdealer that could be running on 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:33.640 your computer. 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:35.880 So run that. 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:39.480 Make sure that everything's okay, and then be careful about 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.680 the stuff that you click. And actually, our guest later 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.320 is going to talk about how he doesn't believe you 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.280 need to have a secondary antivirus on your computer. He 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:51.200 thinks what's built into Windows is just fine. There's another website. 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:56.320 Malware bytes has a digital footprint portal and it's at 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:00.520 malwarebytes dot com slash digital dash footprint. And this one 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.200 was new to me. I tried this this morning. I 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:05.880 haven't really seen this one before, but it is excellent. 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.240 Same kind of thing. You pop in your email address. 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.679 They're going to text you a code to your email 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.520 and then it will give you all the places that 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.800 you've been breached, and it is quite thorough. And what 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:21.280 this does differently than the haviben poned site is that 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.320 actually shows you the information that's floating around out there 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.280 about you. Now they redact it just to make sure, 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:28.920 you know, so you can see the beginning in the end. 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:30.760 But yeah, I look on there, I'm like, oh, that's 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.120 one of my passwords that I used to use. That's, 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.040 you know, one of my logins that I used to use. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.920 So you get an idea of how easy it is 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.559 for these hackers to use this stuff to their advantage. Again, 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:46.040 that's malware bytes Digital footprint, and it's free. You just 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.320 pop in your information and see what's in there. The 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.280 other thing you need to do is get a two 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.160 factor authentication app. I don't know if you've noticed, but 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.200 when you sign up for half the websites these days, 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.040 they don't even ask you for a password. They just 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.240 they say, we're gonna send you a magic link to 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.480 your email address. Why are they doing that because so 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.000 many people are reusing passwords. They don't even want to 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.040 deal with passwords anymore. They'd rather just every time you 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.600 log in, text you a code to your email address. 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.679 You put that code in on the website and that 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.839 logs you in. Because it's secure. It's safer than having 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.840 some random password that's going to be hacked. And so 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.240 you do need a two factor authentication app. If you're 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:24.400 going to lock down your accounts now again, I would 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.400 say don't use the one that's built into your password manager. 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.319 Why because if they open up your password manager now 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.480 they have access to all of your two factor authentication codes. 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:38.320 And so I would recommend a separate two factor authentication app. 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:39.640 It's better than texting. 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:44.240 Texting could be hacked, So get something like auth theau thy. 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:48.640 Google has one, Microsoft has one. Those are good, but 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.079 a lot of the places online, a lot of the 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:55.679 security experts recommend two fas and duo duo. They like 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.640 those a lot. The thing is you need to make 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:02.240 sure if you're using moremultiple devices that this works across 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.840 multiple devices, and if you're not, then you'll just be 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.199 fine with any of these. I'd probably recommend the two 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.880 fas or the duo because a lot of them don't 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:13.280 work cross platform AUF THEE, Google and Microsoft do, but 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.240 that brings a whole other level of security sort of 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:20.959 concerns as well. So just get this stuff in order. 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.920 It's it's really important, especially with a hack like this. 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:25.560 All right, coming up. 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:26.160 On the show. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:31.760 Fifteen years fifteen years, we've had the iPad. This popular 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.720 app just made its way there. I cannot believe it. 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.000 I use it every weekend with Kim. I'll tell you 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.160 what app that is. Plus we'll have your calls and 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.320 questions eight eight eight rich one O one eight eight 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:46.000 eight seven four to two four one zero one. Get 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.680 those calls in. Go to the website rich on tech 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:49.160 dot tv. 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.560 Hit contact. We'll see you right back here in a moment. 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:56.959 I'm not kidding. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.880 This whole live like AI thing where you can just 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:07.400 aim your camera at something is absolutely transformative. So Gemini, 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.960 which is Google's AI, they have it, which it just 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.880 rolled out like it just became available on my iPhone yesterday. 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.920 It's free, and then it's available and Android of course. 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.760 And then you've got Chatchy BT which also has live video. 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.079 So these are a little bit different than your standard 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.559 just chatting with chat GYBT or Gemini. 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:29.280 So what you do is you open up the app 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:30.120 and then. 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.800 The lower right hand corner of both apps, instead of 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.880 tapping the microphone, it almost looks like an audio wave 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.280 and you tap that and that will get you into 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.800 chatting live like voice to voice, like your voice to 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.120 an AI voice. But then you'll see there's a new 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.200 option when you do that, a little video camera. So 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.560 if you tap that video camera, now you can share 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:56.000 your whatever your camera is seeing on your phone with AI. 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.320 Why is that helpful? Oh my gosh. I mean, we 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.040 haven't even figured out how this is helpful yet. But 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.240 for instance, yesterday I had some work done on my sprinklers, 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.679 right and after the folks left, they weren't turning on. 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:10.600 I was like, what's going on here? And I had 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:14.800 a hunch that they forgot to turn the you know, 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.760 like the handle off, like on the valve or whatever 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.320 that like turns off all the water for everything. I 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:21.720 had a feeling because they were working on it, they 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.480 had to let things dry whatever. So I aimed my 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:28.080 Gemini at the sprinkler valve system and I said, hey, 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:31.960 is this like my sprinklers aren't the water's not coming through? 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:33.680 Like what am I doing wrong here? Like what needs 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.440 to be changed? And it literally said grab that handle, 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.240 the yellow handle and turn it to the left or 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.920 right whatever. Said sure enough, that opened up the flow 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:43.800 of water. I mean, this is the kind of stuff 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:45.920 that back in the day you would either have to 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.360 call a friend that knew what they were doing, call 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.920 a professional that knew what they were doing. Look it 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.160 up online, try to describe what you're looking at. But 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.120 now it's just like boom, it's all there. So I 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.880 can't wait to go to like a museum where I'm 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.400 looking at art and I just want to say, like, hey, 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.319 tell me about this artist. What was the artist thinking 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.040 at the time? What was the world like? Or what 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.240 does this painting mean? Or what does this sculpture mean? 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.320 I mean, I'm talking. It just opens up entirely new 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:16.240 ways of interacting with information. Quite incredible. Let's go to 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.480 Greg in Minnesota. Greg, you're on with Rich. 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:26.880 Hello. Rich, Hello, got a question for you. Wonder if 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.800 you're familiar with an app that would help me out. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.560 I want to be able to listen to a radio 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:39.240 program such as yours or any other radio program using 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:46.000 a digital tuner on my Android phone. And if I'm 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:50.640 interrupted and I have to leave, but I'm seriously interested 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.880 in the program content, I'd like to be able to 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:58.240 open an app and record the remainder of the session. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.000 Have you seen an app could do that? Rich? 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.560 There are many ways to do this, specifically on the 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:06.560 Android phone. 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:11.960 Do you have a Samsung Moto Moto G okay, So. 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.839 I mean it really depends on there are two There's 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:16.559 a couple of ways to do this. There's like an 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.880 app that you can look into. I've not used it, 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:23.640 but this app called audios au D I A l 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:28.800 S and it looks like it records radio stations. It 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.640 says it's got forty thousand stations. I have not personally 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:35.080 used this, but that looks like it's probably your best bet. 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.400 And so I'm assuming there's some sort of limit on 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.640 the free version of that, But that's the thing I 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:44.000 would try first. Au D I A L S. I'm 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.560 wondering because it's probably doing it live. I'm wondering if 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.720 your phone has to be open and sort of unlocked 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.200 for this to happen, or if it does it somehow 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.200 in the cloud. But that's the first place i'd look. 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:58.800 When it comes to the desktop machine, there's a there's 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.440 a lot of options. I mean, desktop is so much easier. 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:04.240 You can record with so many apps. 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:04.440 Ors. 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:08.640 One I like from a Rogue Amiga called Piezo Pi 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.680 e z O that's on the Mac side of things. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.040 Super simple recording of anything that's on your Mac. That's 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:19.480 a great one. And then although I have not tried this. Audacity. 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.720 I've tried it, but not for this purpose. But it 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.600 looks like it can record things that are from your 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.120 computer as well, like audio that's streaming on your computer, 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.400 so Audacity and that's completely free and open source. 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:31.600 So that's another way of doing it. 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.120 The other way you can try to do it is 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:39.400 just using the built in recording functionality on your phone. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.480 And if you look at the screen recorder, that typically 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:47.200 records audio that's passing through your phone as well. So 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.320 if you go depending on your phone, you know, if 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:54.640 you look at your your screen recording functionality, it will 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:58.240 say record sound in the options, and you can say 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.360 non media or me and Mike. So if you had 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:05.120 that selected as media, that would just record your screen 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.480 and the audio that's playing on that station. 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:09.440 So a couple ways of doing. 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:13.480 It, Greg, You know, it's so many of these uh systems. 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:14.840 You know, like back in the day when I was 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:16.920 a kid, I used to when I heard a song 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.200 on the radio I wanted to keep, I would run 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:22.040 to the radio or run to my you know, cassette 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.520 player and press record. I think you have to press 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.440 like play and record at the same time to get 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.520 that to go but that's the way I did it. 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.280 You always had a little bit of the DJ at 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.200 the beginning of all your songs, and then you stop it, 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.080 and then the next time your song plays, you'd run 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.400 up there again and get it. But that's what we 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.320 did back in the day. I mean, of course, then 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.240 if then we have all these iTunes and MP three's 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.080 and but yeah, if you want to record something that's live, 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.640 you're gonna have to use a little bit of creativity 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.400 there because now everything is on demand. And of course 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.040 that is the way everyone likes it because you can 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.640 control it that way. Good question, Greg eighty eight rich 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.440 one on one eight eight eight seven four two four 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:03.240 one zero one. Google Photos is celebrating ten years. We'll 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:11.199 talk about that coming up next. WhatsApp is finally getting 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.479 a dedicated iPad app. 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:15.720 Can you believe it took fifteen years. 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:17.800 I don't know what Meta has against the iPad, but 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:21.000 they still don't have an Instagram app for the iPad either, 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.359 not an official one. Don't send me the angry email 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.680 saying rich, I can download Instagram. Yes, it's the one 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.239 for the iPhone. It works on the iPad, but they 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:32.240 have no native iPad app for Instagram, but now they 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.600 have it for WhatsApp, so you can take advantage of 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:39.000 the big screen, works with the Apple pencil, keeps your 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:43.600 chats linked up across all your devices, the iPhone, the Mac, 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:48.240 the iPad, I guess thee Android two. So it's available 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.840 in the app store. Just search WhatsApp make sure you 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.800 get the official one. And you still need a phone 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:57.080 number to activate your account. But this is a big 0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:01.400 upgrade from using the website on the iPad for WhatsApp. 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:05.480 So fifteen years in we finally got it. Yay. Not 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.240 that I use it very much. I only use WhatsApp 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:10.000 for one person, Kim, our call screener. 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:10.600 That's it. 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:13.560 I guess in a chat from my kids' school too. 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.359 But that's basically if it was my choice, I'd have 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:19.160 everyone use WhatsApp because it works the same across everything, 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.920 so and it's very secure end to end, encrypted by default. 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.880 David is in Michigan. David, you're on with Rich. What's up? 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:29.840 Hi? Hi? Rich. 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:37.400 I've got a Android phone. It's a LGG eight. Had 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:40.280 it for a while and I really like it. But 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.479 I also have a Samsung, but I don't like it 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.119 nearly as much. It's too big, but that anyway, that 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:51.280 g eight. I. I was on the internet and for 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.480 some reason it locked up. I'm guessing some kind of 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:57.680 a phishing scam or I don't know what, some kind 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.920 of a bug. Anyway, I had to it down by 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:03.760 googling how to power it down, and I did that, 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:08.240 and then when I repowered it back on, it seemed 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.520 to be doing some glitchy stuff. So I went ahead 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:12.480 and did a factory resett. 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.000 Oh no, what did you lose? 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.320 Yeah? I lost photos? 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.120 Oh no, because you did it fast and any kind 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:20.680 of thought as soon as you started like, oh wait 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:22.760 a second, yeah I did. 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.720 I wasn't thinking about the photos, but I probably should 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:28.200 have had them backed up on the memory card because 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:29.359 it has a memory cards. 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.040 Well yeah, oh one of the Yeah, I didn't do. 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:35.240 That, but but I looked on I googled it and 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:38.000 it said that as long as I didn't re right 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:40.960 over top of that, that I probably I could potentially 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.879 get those back. Is but I'm I'm calling phone with 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.360 beer people and they're saying, no, you can't, you can't 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:46.920 get it back. 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:49.840 You probably can't get it back, but it's definitely worth 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:53.919 trying because someone that knows what they're doing. Can plug 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.359 that phone into a computer and kind of look at 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.760 the files on there and see if there's anything that's 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.280 resembles your photos. Now I think they're probably gone. But 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:06.320 here's the thing. This is a Google phone. Did you 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:08.840 have Google Photos set up at all in that device? 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:10.480 No? 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:16.520 I no, no. In fact, I I uh no. Every 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.200 time you take on something like a different app or 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:20.919 something like that, then you got to figure out how 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:24.880 to use it. So it seems like, uh, it would 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:27.359 be the prudent thing to do, but I haven't taken 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.600 the time to do. In fact, I don't know. I 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:32.879 only have a couple of apps on my phone. 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:35.280 Okay, well, well here's what I would do. Number one, 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:38.080 you had a Google log in on this phone, so 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:39.960 I would, at the very least if you haven't done 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:42.439 this before. Have you gone to a web browser and 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:44.520 typed in photos dot Google dot com. 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:45.080 Have you done that? 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:46.720 They have not? 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:49.919 Okay, so go there. There There could be a chance 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:51.880 that when you first set up this phone, is said 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:53.960 or you you know, you opened up Google Photos. Now, 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:56.800 this is an older device, so I'm not sure that 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.159 even Google Photos was sort of an option back in 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.280 the day. By default, on this device, but you never know, 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.560 So go to photos dot Google dot com and check 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.240 to see if any of your pictures were backed up there. 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:13.160 That's number one. Number two I would go, you're in Michigan. 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:16.520 I would look up on Yelp like a data doctor 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.840 and see if and just maybe get a quote from them, 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:22.320 say hey, look here's what I've got I formatted. Basically, 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:26.200 you formatted your phone, and can you check to see 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.120 if you can recover the pictures off this device? Now, 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:31.159 if you have a memory card in there, have you 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.320 popped the memory card out and see if you can 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:34.720 access these from a computer. 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:40.399 I've looked at the memory card and actually I downloaded 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:45.159 a bunch of YEA on my laptop and then I 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:47.840 put that music onto the memory card, and that's what 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:49.320 the memory card could change. 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:51.520 Okay, so only the music is on the memory card, 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:56.600 none of the photos. Yeah, So I mean it's unfortunate 0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:59.280 that this happened, and I really, you know, I feel 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.760 for you because I it's one of these things where 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:04.920 I've done it before too, you'd you know, I test 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:07.040 a lot of phones and sometimes I'll like format it 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:08.440 when I'm done with it, and I'll be like, oh, 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.679 I needed to get that file off of there or whatever. 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.320 But most of the time, you know, I'd recommend having 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:14.080 this stuff backed up. 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:15.280 But uh yeah. 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:18.440 So the bottom line is a couple places to look, 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.800 you know, the photos dot Google dot com, see if 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:24.520 they're there. I don't think LG had any sort of 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:28.080 like built in backups to their devices back in the day, 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:31.000 so I don't think it's anywhere on an LG site. 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.760 But the photos, you know, the Google photos might be 0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:37.960 an option. If it was Samsung, I would say one drive. 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:40.879 Sometimes they back up to one drive on there. But 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:43.360 let's see, so you got that. And then the only 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:46.239 other thing I can say is is really, you know, 0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:50.240 you might download like a file manager like and check 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:52.320 to see if you can look on the files there, 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:55.400 or just look up Google file manager and you can 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:58.639 download that Google files and kind of browse through. But 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:00.720 I think everything has probably been a race when you 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.480 did that format. But if you look on YELP data 0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:05.600 doctor kind of person, they might be able to look 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:09.800 into it. The other places you break ifix dot com, 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:11.800 they may be able to help with data recovery, so 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.359 you can contact them see if they're in your area 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:17.160 and get sort of a free estimate on how much 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:19.080 it would cost for them to do that, but I 0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:22.560 think it depends on how much these photos are worth you, like, 0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:25.840 are they valuable? Because this may cost you some time 0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:29.200 and effort to get something like that back. But thanks 0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:32.679 for the call, David, really appreciate it. Please please please 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:34.880 back up. I sound like Sabrina Carpenter. 0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:39.360 Please please please back up your photos. 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:46.320 Please please please back up your photos. Just do it it, 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.760 Just please do that because you don't want to lose 0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:50.320 these things. 0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:52.240 And I get it. You got the cloud. It's scary. 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:53.160 You don't know where they are. 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:56.200 But just if you have an Android phone, Google Photos 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:59.639 very simple, get them in there. Or if you have 0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:04.240 Amazon on Prime, you get free photo backup unlimited, so 0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:07.399 download Amazon Photos. If you have Amazon Prime, it's not 0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:09.359 gonna work for your videos because it only gives you 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:12.000 five gigs for your videos, so go into settings and 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.159 turn off the videos thing unless you have it just 0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:16.840 a tiny amount of videos. But I have so many videos. 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:21.840 But back these things up please. And then if you're 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:26.440 on Apple iCloud, I guess is okay. I don't know why. 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:28.320 I'm not a huge fan of iCloud, but I guess 0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:31.040 it's fine. It's better to have them in there. I 0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:33.960 think icloud's a little bit more confusing, but you know, 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:37.160 one drive anywhere. Just get these things backed up because 0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:40.560 you do not want a situation like David. By the way, 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.440 I mentioned that we're going to talk about Google Photos 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:44.840 celebrating ten years. 0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:46.159 Ten years. 0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:49.600 I've been using them since day one, absolutely love it. 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:52.120 In fact, I was using them before they became Google Photos. 0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:57.399 Remember Picasa, that's what it was called. Google acquired Picasa 0:24:57.440 --> 0:24:59.920 in two thousand and four, and this was a desk 0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:02.800 app that would scan your whole computer and it was 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:04.919 so cool. It would go through every single file on 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:08.600 your computer and find every single picture and then put 0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.280 them in this giant scrollable timeline. It was super cool, 0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:14.600 but it kept them all where they were. And then 0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:18.280 twenty sixteen, Google officially shut down Picasa. And back in 0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:19.480 the day, I don't know if you remember this, but 0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:23.760 Google Photos launched with unlimited free storage. 0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:24.720 For high quality photos. 0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:26.399 So if you took you know, most phones back then 0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:29.280 were only like twelve megapixels, so you'd get like free 0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:30.359 storage of all your photos. 0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:31.400 And then of course that ended. 0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:35.120 Then they gave you fifteen gigs and you can really 0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:38.200 find anything in Google Photos. I love the search functionality. 0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:40.720 It is incredible how I can find any picture I 0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:44.879 want in seconds. Now Google Photos has over one point 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:50.120 five billion monthly users. And get this, nine trillion, nine 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:53.680 trillion photos and videos. So get yours in there, or 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.120 get them anywhere, or just back them up. I don't 0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.960 care if you connect your phone to your computer download 0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:00.960 them there, as long as you them in a second place. 0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.879 But that's not as good. I think cloud and then 0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:07.560 somewhere else. Eighty eight rich one on one eight eight 0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:11.800 eight seven four to two four one zero one. 0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:14.639 Coming up, what do I want to talk about? 0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.000 Let's see, I'll give you my review of the S 0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:19.240 twenty five Edge. I'll tell you what that's all about. 0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:25.000 Coming up right here on rich On Tech. If you 0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:27.520 want to keep up with the latest scams and all 0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:31.680 things on Instagram, that's what I post there mostly these days. 0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.600 Rich on Tech at rich On Tech on Instagram. 0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:35.600 Uh. 0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:38.320 The thing is at this point, because I've posted so 0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.960 many scams on my feed, people now love to forward 0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:44.359 me the scams that they're getting, which is great. I 0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:46.359 don't mind it because I can see the trends that 0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:50.359 are happening. So, uh, Friday, I get a bunch of 0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:53.440 emails from people saying, hey, what's up with this DMV scam? 0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:56.080 And sure enough, there it is. 0:26:56.400 --> 0:27:00.240 Everyone is sending them, and I guess it's getting you know, 0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:04.199 hitting all kinds of phones. California and New Jersey, all 0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:07.040 these different states. It's just customized for like various states, 0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:08.480 and you don't even have to live in that state 0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:10.920 to get it anyway. So if you get a new 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:14.520 DMV text that says, hey, you have an outstanding traffic ticket, 0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:17.080 my favorite part is it says it's going to report 0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:21.640 to the DMV. Okay, suspend your vehicle registration, suspend your 0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:25.920 driving privileges, and then whatever, what does this mean? Transfer 0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.679 to a toll booth and charge a thirty five percent 0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:29.400 service fee? 0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:30.840 What does that even mean? 0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:33.680 These scammers are just like throwing stuff at the wall 0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:35.360 to see if it sticks. Like they're just like, ah, 0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:38.359 that sounds good, We'll transfer it to a toll booth 0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:40.000 and charge the thirty five percent extra. 0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:41.080 What does that even mean? 0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:45.760 Scammers come on like it's called chatch ebt get better okay, 0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.399 Like you know, you know you can use that to 0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:51.760 like fix yourself and don't send me the angry email, say, Rich, 0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:53.000 why would you give them that hint? 0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:53.720 I am not. 0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:55.720 Teaching the scammers what to do. They know what they're doing. 0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:59.440 I mean, clearly not. Rita writes in from Huntington Beach. 0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.800 I'm using passwords as my password manager. If I go 0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:04.120 to a third party service, is there an easy way 0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:07.160 to transfer the information or do I need to transfer 0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:10.879 each one individually? Also, what happens the information from passwords? 0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:14.919 I just did this recently, very very simple. You just 0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:18.600 export your passwords to a file and then the new 0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:21.680 program will import it and pretty much everything comes over perfectly. 0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:23.680 Now here's the caveat. 0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:28.280 You have to be very careful because that file that 0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.440 you have with all your passwords, if that's not encrypted, 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.000 which is probably not, it's probably comm a separated value 0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:37.680 file plain text. Anyone who gets that file could could 0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:39.480 have access to all of your passwords. You need to 0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:43.240 be really careful when you're switching password managers, like get 0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.720 the file, move it to the new device, move it 0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.400 to the new app, and then delete that file like 0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:52.040 burn it. Now I'm looking at Apple passwords and I 0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:58.240 don't see a way to export on the iPhone. Let's 0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:00.880 see if I can do it on the Mac computer. 0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.560 Let's see if that works. Let's see is there an 0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:09.440 export file export passwords? Yes, so you can export rita. 0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:11.080 You'd have to do it from your computer. 0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:12.680 I don't. Let's see. 0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:14.320 Can you do it from your phone? Maybe in like 0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:17.520 the settings. Let's see, you got to go to apps, 0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.200 so you gotta go all the way to apps. And 0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:23.680 let's see if I can find the passwords app. They 0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.680 changed everything on iPhone to put all the apps in 0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:27.560 like the same place. 0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:29.440 Okay, let's see Apple. 0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.400 Yeah, I don't see a way to export from the 0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:37.719 iPhone as far as I can tell. I mean, doesn't 0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:41.880 really look like there's a way to export. See, And yeah, 0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:44.280 I don't want to knock Apple for not putting that 0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:46.560 functionality there. But anyway, what would you do with the 0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:48.520 passwords that are still on your phone? You would just 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:50.920 go through and deletos. Now, what I would do is 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.560 overlap the two for just a little bit, Like if 0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:56.320 you're switching to something like a bitwarden, use it for 0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.480 a couple of weeks before you go and destroy the 0:29:58.520 --> 0:29:59.800 passwords on your old password. 0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:01.840 Man, that's my advice. 0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:06.600 Wesa writes in what did companies do with all of 0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:08.600 our data, I see no change in my life. 0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:09.680 Am I missing something? 0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.280 Basically, the more data they have on you, the more 0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:17.520 they can build a profile of you, and the clearer 0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:19.920 that profile is, the better they can market products and 0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:23.160 adds to you more effectively. So you're not going to see, 0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.680 like you know, the change in your life directly, but 0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:30.280 all these ads that are targeted towards you become more personalized. 0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:33.720 The more data that companies collect on you. Now you 0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:35.400 may argue that's a good or a bad thing. Like 0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:38.120 if I'm watching Hulu, which by the way, I didn't 0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:39.760 pay for it. Last night, I wanted to watch this 0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:43.200 new show on there. I think it's called Adults and 0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.080 it's like a comedy. I have not watched it, so 0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:46.720 I can't vouch for it, but I wanted to check 0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.240 it out. But I refuse to pay the ten dollars 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.720 a month for Hulu because I pay for so many services, 0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:54.160 and so last night I'm literally like, my wife is 0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.560 kind of getting a little annoyed at me because she's like, 0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:58.680 can we please just watch something. I'm like, I want 0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:00.720 to watch this new show, but I refuse to pay 0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:02.600 for it, and she's like, well, how much is it? 0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:05.400 I'm like ten dollars. She's like, and you can cancel 0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:08.320 any time. Like yeah, She's like, what's the problem. I'm like, 0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:11.040 I just refuse because I pay for so many other 0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:13.120 things that I want this to be included. 0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:15.520 So anyway, we didn't watch that. 0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:18.760 We did end up watching Hacks, which I do enjoy, 0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:21.800 and that's on my HBO Max. Now well now it's 0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.840 it's still called Max, but it will change anyway. I 0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:26.680 don't know what my point was. Oh yeah, if I'm 0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:30.080 watching Hulu and the ads that come up are targeted 0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:32.880 towards me, like I probably would like those better. Like 0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:36.640 if they're serving up diaper ads, I don't need those, well, 0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:38.640 I mean, I guess I did for the kids. I 0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:40.960 may need them in the future for myself, so I guess, 0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:44.480 you know, everything is cycles in life, right, but I 0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:47.920 don't need them right now. But if they serve those, 0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.600 I'd be like, Okay, well I don't need those now. 0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.240 If they served up an ad for I don't know, 0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:58.040 a new car, sure. Anyway, my point is that's that's 0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.520 what they use those for. So yes, you may not 0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:04.640 feel the influence immediately, but that's what's happening. Maria writes 0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.160 in Hey there, I'm been a loyal fan for years. 0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:09.720 I do enjoy all the different subjects you talk about. 0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:13.360 Let's see, I'm wondering if you're familiar with any work 0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:16.320 from home websites or how to recognize what's legitimate versus 0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:16.800 a scam. 0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.240 I noticed you showed us the Amazon scam email. Thanks 0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:19.480 for that. 0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:22.800 On Facebook, there's a few groups inviting people to click 0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.719 a link to see a seminar about digital marketing and 0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:30.120 working remotely from anywhere? Are those safe? What do you think, Maria? 0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:31.600 They are not safe? 0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:33.920 No number one. 0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:38.120 No just I'm sorry, but companies are not putting groups 0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:42.320 about digital marketing to remote jobs like marketing to you 0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:46.520 on there, Na run, just just close your computer screen 0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:50.560 and run far away. If you want a legitimate remote job, 0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:54.320 you got to check a trusted site LinkedIn. And then 0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:57.760 there's this website called flex Jobs. I have not used 0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.680 it to acquire a job, but it it's the number 0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:04.200 one job site to find remote jobs. No ads, no scams, 0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:09.280 no junk find legitimate work from home jobs with options 0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.560 for flexible hours and hybrid work. I mean, who doesn't 0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.280 want that? Who doesn't want to just work from home. 0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:16.200 I mean I did during the pandemic. 0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:18.240 I hated it. I could not deal with it. 0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.680 I enjoy okay, I enjoyed it for a little bit, 0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:27.200 like making my coffee. But let's be completely honest. When 0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:30.120 you are working from home, you are not doing the 0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:30.800 same job. 0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.080 Oh I can't wait for the emails. 0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:36.960 You are not doing the same job that you would 0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:40.239 be doing at the office. Now, I'm not judging you. 0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.720 I'm not saying that that's good or bad. It is 0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:47.520 just different. So, for instance, if I ever worked from home, 0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.120 what do you do? People schedule things. Oh, I've got 0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:53.120 the plumber coming at eleven, I've got the person checking 0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:55.320 this at twelve. You got to pick up the kids 0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:58.120 at two. You got to do this. Oh and by 0:33:58.160 --> 0:33:59.960 the way, can you go grab some groceries. 0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:00.720 I need those. 0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:04.320 People think when you're working from home, you're not actually working. Yes, 0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:05.959 you do need to get work done, but it is 0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:09.040 more flexible, and so I think it's actually more stressful 0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.680 being at home for some people like myself, because of 0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.400 all these other external factors like oh, I gotta get milk, 0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:17.319 and I gotta you know, pick up the kids, and 0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:19.080 I gotta do this It's like you're still trying to 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.200 get your job done, but now you've got a hundred 0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:23.960 other things. We're at the office. You get your job 0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.320 done because you're at the office. It's meant to be boring. 0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.080 Eighty to eight rich one on one eight eight eight 0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:30.960 seven four to two four one zero one. 0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:32.280 Looks like we've got a special guest. 0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:35.880 My brother just went to Europe and I recommended a 0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.080 few things tech wise for him, so he's gonna have 0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:43.200 his observations coming up. U Plus Claude has added a 0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.480 new feature, so is Google Calendar. I'll tell you about 0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:49.719 those coming up right here, and I'll link everything up 0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:56.399 on the website rich on tech dot TV. Welcome back 0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:58.799 to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, 0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:03.440 talking technology at Triple eight rich one O one eight 0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.400 eight eight seven four to two four to one zero 0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:10.360 one the website rich on Tech dot tv. Got an email? 0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:13.040 You got a message? You want to email me? Just 0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.719 go there hit contact. Be sure to sign up for 0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:19.360 my newsletter while you are there. We've got a great 0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:23.800 guest coming up later this hour. Patrick McGee. I cannot 0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.480 get enough of his book. It's called Apple and China, 0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:28.680 and I have a lot of authors on here, and 0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:31.359 I'm not kidding. This is like one of the best 0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:33.920 books that I just surprised me how good it is. 0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:35.560 So we'll talk to him all about that, and very 0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:39.120 relevant with what's going on. I've got a special guest 0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:44.040 right now. My brother just got back from Europe and 0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:47.440 I recommended a couple of techy things and I'm curious 0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:50.239 how those worked or any tech observations he had over there. 0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:52.239 Justin Welcome to the show. 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:54.480 Hey, Rich, how you doing. 0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:58.080 I'm doing well? You jet lagged or what? I am? 0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:01.399 Yes, very much already. Didn't you just get home? Didn't 0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:02.040 you just land? 0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:03.279 Yeah? 0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:06.000 Well no, no, I got home yesterday, but I woke 0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:08.200 up today at like five am. I could not sleep. 0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:12.160 Oh that's called late for me. So so you went 0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:14.839 to Europe? What what countries did you hit up? 0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:16.279 Yeah? 0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:19.360 So we went to Spain, Germany and Czech Republic. 0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.440 Okay, and you went there for a Dual Lipa concert. 0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:24.400 Can I say that? Or is that embarrassing? 0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:27.160 Great? Now everybody knows. 0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:30.840 You literally like went you flew overseas to see Dual Lipa. 0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:34.000 But I understand why. I saw her at the iHeart 0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.040 Fest in Vegas and yeah, I get. 0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:38.879 It, big fan. Yeah. 0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:42.200 Yeah, So what how did the tech work overseas, because 0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:45.480 you know it's always intimidating. I assume you got a 0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:47.879 an E sim I did. 0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:53.240 Yeah, I went with one of those allow super easy 0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:56.000 to set up. I gotta say they had instructions that 0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:59.880 were really detailed for Android, which is a big challenge, 0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:04.400 especially how fast the interface changes and how many different 0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:07.920 interfaces and menus there are. So that was actually pretty 0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.880 nice and it worked perfectly the entire trip. 0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:12.759 So what you set it up? 0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:14.920 You bought it from here, you bought it like on 0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:18.080 the app, and then when you landed, what did you do? 0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:19.480 Just toggle it on? 0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:24.600 So it's had to enable it before you go. Oh, 0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:28.360 it did, and it just said that once it detects 0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:31.919 the network in the foreign country, it'll just start your 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:33.400 time period then. 0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:34.320 Right, So it doesn't. 0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:37.160 It doesn't start the timer until you land and it 0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:38.480 finds the network that you're. 0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:39.000 Supposed to be on. 0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:40.160 Correct. 0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.400 Yeah, and so it worked flawlessly. 0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.040 What about like the Wi Fi calling, did you get 0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:46.640 any like calls to your phone number? 0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:48.280 Did that work? Or what about texting? 0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:52.960 No, texting didn't work. My phone number didn't work. Yeah, 0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.560 so I don't know. You know that all goes through 0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:59.320 my main SIM with my main carrier, So I disabled 0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:02.920 that so I don't get charged for international roaming. It's 0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:07.560 like ten dollars a day. So yeah, no, no SMS 0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:11.600 worked at all. WhatsApp worked, Telegram worked, I would imagine 0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:15.040 signal works. I don't think I tested it though, but 0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:17.840 I didn't have a need for any SMS, so I 0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:18.439 was out there. 0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:18.960 Okay. 0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:23.440 And any other tech observations, any anything they do differently 0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.359 over there that you noticed versus here. 0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.359 Yeah, I will say, tap to pay is like the 0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:32.360 main way to pay for everything, and it is everywhere 0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:34.920 you used tap to pay for all your meals. You 0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:38.120 used to have to pay for transit, you know in 0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.400 Europe in a lot of places they have public bathrooms 0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:44.680 that you have to pay for. It's usually like sixty 0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:49.800 cents of euro even they had taped to pay pretty 0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:51.600 much on all of them. 0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:53.480 Yeah, that was one of. 0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.080 The main things that I noticed, said that tap to 0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:57.360 pay was like the primary way. 0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.720 To pay for anything, even tapped to toilet. 0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:02.440 Huh yep, that's a toilet. 0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:06.200 Interesting okay, And what about iPhone versus Android? You notice 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.520 any I love like kind of seeing. You know, are 0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:10.040 people using iPhone Android? 0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:14.839 A lot of people were using Android out there. I 0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:17.200 think I wasn't paying too close the attention to what 0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.759 people's phones were. Actually a lot of people weren't really 0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:21.839 sitting on their phones too much. I did notice that. 0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:25.000 But when I did notice phones, it was a lot 0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.080 of a lot of Android. And I did spot a 0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:28.480 one plus in the wild. 0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:31.560 Oh wow on my flight home and I get a 0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:36.759 ding adam my, you know my boardops. Love when I 0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:40.520 just like asked for things like that. Okay, any other observations, 0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:42.480 any other thoughts? Would you recommend it? 0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:46.879 Ye? I mean going to Europe, Yeah, definitely a lot 0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:50.200 of fun. The public transit was also pretty high tech. 0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.000 Google Maps had. 0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:57.440 Every single stop, every train line, tram line, everything down 0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:01.759 to the most minute detail. It was extremely helpful. I 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:05.080 remember the last time. I haven't been to Europe in 0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:09.359 like ten years at this point. This is the next 0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:10.920 time I was here. But the first time I went, 0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.640 I didn't have any Internet on my phone. I just 0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:18.080 went with a non Internet connected phone, so I don't 0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:21.360 know how I even made it around, to be honest, Yeah. 0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:21.480 We were on it. 0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:24.480 We were using it all the time to navigate. One 0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:27.800 difference I noticed with Android versus iPhone because my fiance 0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:33.160 Darcy has an iPhone and navigating the streets of let's 0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:37.239 say Prague, especially you're kind of nestled in these buildings, 0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:44.360 lots of concrete buildings, stone buildings, and they have the navigation. 0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:47.200 The GPS was unable to figure out which way we 0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:50.440 were facing a lot of times on the iPhone, but 0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:52.839 Android it worked out pretty much falllessly. 0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:55.480 Oh interesting, Okay, So I have a thought on this. 0:40:55.600 --> 0:41:00.440 So number one, I have found that it's so interesting 0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:03.480 you say that because I've always recommended it if you 0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:06.200 use if you're walking directions, like if you need walking 0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:09.759 directions in a city, I find that the iPhone excels 0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:12.920 at that, especially with Apple Maps, not with Google Maps, 0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:13.920 but with Apple Maps. 0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.560 So we were Google Maps on both phones. 0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:18.200 Oh darn it. 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.040 I should have told you about the Apple Maps trick, 0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:24.359 because I'm not kidding. Apple Maps walking directions in any 0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:26.719 city are incredible, but especially in big cities, and I 0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:28.680 don't know why they seem to be better than Google. 0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:31.360 But I'm surprised that your phone got the lock, because 0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:34.200 even in New York City, I have trouble walking around 0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:36.719 with my phone because it you know, if I'm not 0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:40.719 using Apple Maps, it's like the Android maps for some reason. Anyway, Okay, 0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:43.000 good to know. All right, Well, thanks for calling in. 0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:43.680 Appreciate it. 0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:45.319 Yeah, thanks for having me. 0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:45.919 All right. 0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:49.360 My brother justin you heard that. Yeah, he's getting married 0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:53.040 next year. So yeah, there you go. Very exciting. I'm 0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:55.200 gonna be the uh. I should have asked him if 0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:58.040 I'm still doing that, I'm supposed to be the officiant. 0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:02.200 I gotta get my like efficient license or whatever. Let's see, 0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:05.520 that'll be something new I do. Okay, told you about 0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:09.280 a couple of things. Google Calendar has a new privacy 0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:11.359 setting on Android. You might have gotten a pop up 0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:13.880 to ask, you know if you want to toggle it on, 0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:16.280 but it's basically inside the app. It lets you block 0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:19.799 other apps from accessing your calendar data. So if you 0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:23.040 turn this on inside your Google Calendar app on your phone, 0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.880 no other app will be able to tap into the 0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:29.920 calendar data from your phone or from your Google Calendar. 0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:33.040 So before this third party apps could access your calendar, 0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:37.239 you know your calendar information. So you can find the 0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:41.919 toggle in Google Calendar menu settings General, and it says 0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:44.560 share Google Calendar with data with other apps. If you 0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:46.800 don't want it to share with other apps, turn that off, 0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:51.160 but just be warned. This could break other calendar related apps, 0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:53.799 like if you're using another app that taps into it, 0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:59.239 widgets or video meeting tools, so pretty much anything. And 0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:02.239 this setting only applies to the official Google Calendar, not 0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:07.760 Samsung or other versions. And then Claude has added voice mode. 0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:12.239 Claude is sort of the competitor to chat Ebt. They 0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.560 added voice mode, so if you want to talk to 0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:18.400 Claude and hear its responses, you can talk to AI 0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:20.560 on Claude and yes it does work on the iOS 0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:24.480 and Android apps. In beta, you get free users get 0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:26.799 about twenty to thirty voice messages. If you're on a 0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:30.000 paid plan you can get more. You can also connect 0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:33.000 your Google Docs, your Google Calendar, and your Gmail to 0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:36.720 Claude so you can ask about that. But overall, Claude 0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:38.719 is still sort of a little bit playing catch up 0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:40.680 to chat, g Ebt and Google Gemini when it comes 0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:44.359 to voice features and then also the video features. All right, 0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:48.640 coming up the best free PC cleaners? Is your PC 0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:51.759 kind of run a little gunky, you want to clean 0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:53.799 it out? I will tell you what you need to know, 0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:57.120 and you can do most of this for free. You 0:43:57.200 --> 0:44:06.000 are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich 0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:08.400 on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking 0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:11.719 technology at Triple eight Rich one O one eight eight 0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:13.560 eight seven four to two four. 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:14.480 One zero one. 0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:18.200 I'm gonna tell you about the best free PC cleaners 0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:21.160 clean up your machine, plus the Galaxy S twenty five Edge. 0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:23.360 I'll tell you what the reviews are on that, including mine. 0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:26.160 Uh And we've got a great guest this hour as well, 0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:29.879 Patrick McGee, to talk about Apple in China, his book 0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:33.840 that is doing really well. I did something this weekend 0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:36.880 that I've not done ever in my life. Actually, I 0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:41.680 bought two records visited a record store. I know, my 0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:47.040 music journey started with tapes and then went to CDs 0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:50.000 and then went to MP three's and then went to 0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:52.760 streaming and h but this was great. 0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:54.520 So I'm testing this record player. 0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.719 It's a US it's a radio shack record player. It's 0:44:57.760 --> 0:44:59.080 kind of an all one. It actually does a lot 0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:02.080 of stuff. But I needed an album to play on it, 0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:03.200 and it's kind of fun. 0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:03.360 You know. 0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:05.520 I've got kids who all this stuff is really new 0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:08.080 to them, so they had never seen this before. So 0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:11.680 we went to the record store, and you know, there 0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:14.279 happened to be one that I found very close by, 0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:16.520 and so I was like, all right, let me try 0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:19.319 this place. And so we went in there, and you know, 0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:21.640 it's just it's a blast from the past immediately, and 0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:24.680 there's all these albums and it's just like physical media 0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:29.399 is so kind of like feels so outdated at this point, right, 0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:31.320 Like we used to go into these stores and shared 0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:33.960 experiences of picking things out and sorting through stuff, and 0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:36.200 now it's like everything's just a tap on your phone screen. 0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:38.279 But it's kind of fun to go back to a 0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:40.720 physical experience like this. So anyway, so we walked through. 0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:43.160 We're looking and at everything there. But we walked through, 0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:45.799 looked to the records, and we were trying to buy 0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.120 a couple. First off, didn't realize how expensive they are. 0:45:48.160 --> 0:45:50.640 I mean, these things are like twenty thirty dollars up 0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:53.600 maybe forty dollars, and I thought like, wow, I thought 0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:55.360 these were going to be a lot cheaper. Anyway, this 0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:58.520 was the funniest part. So I I was looking for 0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:01.839 a record I settled upon like a Miles Davis something classic, right, 0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:05.640 And I asked this guy who's looking through the album 0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:06.960 and say said, hey, can you help me find this? 0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:08.160 He goes, dude, I don't work here. 0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:12.000 It's like, whoops, like you look like you worked there. 0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:13.680 I said, well, you look like you know what you're doing, 0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:16.200 and he said all right, and he didn't. He wasn't 0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:18.400 really he didn't have that much of a sense of humor. 0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:20.279 But the best part was then we were looking for 0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:24.560 a secondary album and my kid, unbeknownst to me, walks 0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:27.120 up to some other person in the store and says, hey, 0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:28.280 can you help me find this album? 0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:29.839 The guy goes, I don't work here. 0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:34.239 So my point is, I mean, look, everyone that was 0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:37.040 in the store maybe a little bit on the older, 0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:40.400 like maybe an old timer kind of person. And so 0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:42.800 we just both I just thought that was so funny 0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:45.520 that we both mistake these people for working at the store. 0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:46.439 Both of them didn't. Anyway. 0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:48.000 The guy who ended up helping me, who works at 0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:50.879 the store, very nice, actually a fan of a fan 0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:53.560 of me what I do on TV. So he instantly said, hey, 0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:56.520 rich what's up. Can I get a selfie? Said all right, 0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:00.799 can I get a discount? Didn't happen anyway. I paid 0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:05.120 sixty bucks for two albums, and you know, I realized 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:08.400 why people went streaming. You can get sixty sixty dollars 0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:10.680 like six months of unlimited music of all the music 0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:12.440 made in the world. But I will say when I 0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:15.920 put the album on, it was really cool, like the warmth, 0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:18.560 the crackling of the you know, just the way it's 0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:22.320 Your connection to media is much more when it's physical. 0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:24.960 Let's put it that way. And my kid, of course, 0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:26.759 the first thing he wanted to do was speed up 0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:29.120 the album so that the other album we got was 0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:31.400 Taylor Swift, so it was like, you know, like mouse. 0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:38.160 The best free PC cleaners Chris Hoffman writes a great 0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:43.640 newsletter called Windows Intelligence. He spotlighted a few of the 0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:46.759 free PC cleaners you can get. He said, you can 0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:49.120 you don't have to pay for them. Windows has them 0:47:49.120 --> 0:47:53.400 built in. So number one disc Cleanup. 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If you like a Samsung, It's got a 0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:41.480 nice frame, it's solid, the screen is great, it's fast, 0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:45.600 it's got all the pro features, latest Snapdragon chip. It's 0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:48.839 got good memory. The main camera is really good two 0:49:48.960 --> 0:49:50.840 hundred megapixels. If you want to see the pictures, go 0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:53.400 to my website. Rich on tech dot TV. Very impressed 0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:56.279 with all the main pictures in good light, seven years 0:49:56.280 --> 0:50:01.000 of software updates and security. The problem is the it 0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:03.719 is smaller, so that's going to be shorter battery life 0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:05.799 throughout the day. It's probably gonna, you know, need to 0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:07.959 be charged. But I found that it charged pretty quick, 0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:10.479 so not that big of a deal. I did find 0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:14.080 the lack of a telephoto lens is not ideal because 0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:16.960 Samsung's are really known for good zoom, especially the Ultra 0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:19.360 that I'm used to, and this definitely does not have 0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:21.880 as good zoom. But for the main pictures and the 0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:25.520 Ultra wides, it's great. Charging is pretty fast, not as 0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:27.160 fast as some other phones, but I found it to 0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:29.920 be very fast. And the other thing is this phone 0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:33.359 can run a bit warm because it's so thin. They 0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:35.920 don't have I think the vapor chamber inside is just 0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:37.719 not as big, so it can't kind of cool it 0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:40.760 down as quickly. But if you want a super slim 0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:43.320 design and you can live with some of those trade offs, 0:50:43.360 --> 0:50:45.640 I think this is an excellent phone. I think it's 0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:49.200 a great Samsung phone. The Galaxy S twenty five Edge 0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:52.080 starts at eleven hundred dollars, I know, very expensive, but 0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:54.799 they do have deals that knock that price down, trade ins, 0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:56.839 all kinds of stuff. So if you want to see 0:50:56.880 --> 0:50:59.719 my video review, go to the website rich on tech 0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:04.320 dot tv popping the keyword S twenty five Edge or Samsung, 0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:05.480 or just look on the home screen. 0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:06.200 It's all right there. 0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:09.960 Eighted eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven 0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:12.279 four to two four one zero one. Coming up, we're 0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:17.160 gonna talk Apple in their relationship with China, that's coming 0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:17.600 up right here. 0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:18.359 I'm Rich on Tech. 0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:25.960 I've been very excited to talk with my next guest 0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:30.720 because I have been absolutely devouring his book. It's called 0:51:30.800 --> 0:51:35.360 Apple in China, The Capture of the World's Greatest Company. 0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:40.120 It is on sale now, it's getting great reviews. And uh, 0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:42.040 Patrick McGee, welcome to the show. 0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:44.160 Thanks Rich, my pleasure. 0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:49.920 Unbelievable book, really really well done, and it's a it's 0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:53.840 a topic that you would think would not be the 0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:57.400 easiest to read, and it's this is a page turner. 0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:01.040 So how did you, I mean, where did you start 0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:03.759 by getting all these stories and the information that you 0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:04.720 put in this book? 0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:06.480 I mean, how long does it take you? 0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:09.879 It took about two and a half years. 0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:12.719 I did do the manuscript, like I took one year 0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:16.040 off to write the manuscript, but at that point I 0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:18.080 had already been a seventy page pitch. I had already 0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:20.600 written some big articles about the topic for the financial time. 0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:21.759 So I think if you look at it, it's two 0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:23.880 and a half years. I would say the starting point 0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:24.960 was really discovering what. 0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:27.680 A manufacturing design engineer is. 0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:31.359 That it's a unit called MD within Apple, and it's 0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:34.279 the third level of the of what Apple calls the 0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:38.440 pyramid structure product development. So without getting too wonky, everyone 0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:42.040 knows the first tip of the pyramid. That's ID industrial design, 0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:44.520 that's Johnny I've deciding that the iPod is going to 0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:46.719 have a chrome back and an all white front, and 0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:49.279 then goes over the fence to product design. These are 0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:51.840 the people who have to fit in all the electronics 0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:55.839 into the dimensions that Johnny Ive and team have specified. 0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:58.359 They have to go, you know, find the materials, et 0:52:58.400 --> 0:53:01.240 cetera that Johnny IV specified manufacturing design. 0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:03.560 That the group that we don't really know about. 0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:05.680 These are the people who have to go on the 0:53:05.760 --> 0:53:09.319 airplane to get to Asia, scour plants and figure out 0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:11.600 where are we going to actually build this stuff, And 0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:14.319 in that process they are co inventing a whole bunch 0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:16.879 of parts and components and the. 0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:18.560 Processes behind those parts. 0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:21.520 So that's where you get the technology transfer in because 0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:24.680 inherently these are geniuses who are going off to Asia 0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:28.319 to work with suppliers that are of course now in 0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:31.160 an adversarial country to sort of train them up, if 0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:34.280 you will, up arm them in the world of advanced electronics. 0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:37.480 And that's where it just became really interesting because the development. 0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:39.960 Of that unit was really driven during a time when 0:53:40.000 --> 0:53:42.120 China was like our next great ally, we were going 0:53:42.160 --> 0:53:45.760 to inculcate a democracy and so forth. But because instead, 0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:48.840 under Sesion Pinging, the country turned to belligerent and authoritarian. 0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:50.760 Just as iPhone. 0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:53.279 Volumes just explode to near their quarter billion per year, 0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:56.120 that's where you get this really problematic state of affairs. 0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:59.080 So a standard corporate history becomes feal political really quickly. 0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:02.560 Yeah, I mean, everyone, you know, we've heard so many stories. 0:54:02.640 --> 0:54:06.000 I mean, fox con has become a household name, and 0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:08.520 of course you talk about the rise of that company 0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:11.239 and how they assemble the phones in just all the 0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:13.560 ways that you know. My main takeaway, and I'm not 0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:15.560 done with the book just yet, but my main takeaway 0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:19.040 is that Apple just keeps getting deeper into China without 0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:23.200 actually trying. But it just keeps happening and happening and happening. 0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:24.600 Is that fair to say? 0:54:25.480 --> 0:54:27.359 Yeah, I mean, so things are a little bit in 0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:29.919 a sense worse than they were in two thousand and nine. 0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:32.520 So by two thousand and nine, virtually everything was already. 0:54:32.200 --> 0:54:35.320 In China, but very little of the value add was 0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:39.920 Chinese company it was mostly multinationals operating in China. But 0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:43.719 over time what's happened is the iPhone like within itself, 0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:47.360 has become more Chinese. And that's because the Taiwanese company 0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:50.600 is like Fox KHN, like Pegatron, wistraan Quanta, They've basically 0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:54.160 been pushed out because under Seshin Ping, there's this directive 0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:55.359 to prioritize what. 0:54:55.360 --> 0:54:56.800 He calls indigenous innovation. 0:54:57.480 --> 0:54:59.960 The grand policy behind this is called Made in China's 0:55:00.440 --> 0:55:03.840 twenty five and so basically like companies that are closer 0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:06.560 to this state, so companies that are Chinese, they are 0:55:06.600 --> 0:55:09.279 able to get you know, better access to land, better 0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:12.359 access to tooling and machinery, better access to people that 0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:15.120 man the factories, and by doing so they're able to 0:55:15.120 --> 0:55:17.920 operate at lower margins. Right, they also get state subsidies, 0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:21.160 and so by offering lower margins to Apple, they increasingly 0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:24.320 win the deals. And so they're often you know, hiring 0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:26.880 directly from the Fox con parking lot, let's say, like 0:55:26.920 --> 0:55:29.759 grabbing people and saying I'll double your pay on the spot. 0:55:29.920 --> 0:55:33.040 And so you're really seeing this like red supply chain 0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:36.800 development really being accelerated over the last six seven years 0:55:36.800 --> 0:55:39.480 in particular, and that of course is concerning as well, 0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:42.040 because it used to be the case that multinationals had 0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:44.279 the experiential know how of how to do this, but 0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:46.600 at this point they're actually several years behind. It's the 0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:48.840 Chinese companies that are getting all the latest and greatest 0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:50.160 cutting edge development. 0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:52.160 Now unless you live under our rock. 0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:54.080 You've seen the news, and you wrote this book and 0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:56.760 it came out even before a lot of this tariff stuff. 0:55:57.640 --> 0:56:00.000 But Trump said, you know, they want a twenty five 0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:02.440 five percent or what's the latest of that? I mean, 0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:04.120 I guess he said he wants to make the iPhone 0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:06.000 here in the US. And if it's not, it's got 0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:08.040 they've got to pay like a twenty five percent tariff. 0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:09.880 What do you make of all of that stuff? Like 0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:13.239 could the iPhone be made in the US? And you know, 0:56:13.280 --> 0:56:16.000 Apple and Trump or Tim Cook and Trump seem to 0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:17.719 be like frenemies at this point. 0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:20.400 Yeah, I mean, I would stridently say the iPhone is 0:56:20.400 --> 0:56:23.040 never going to be built in America, except that Tim 0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:25.960 Cook is under such political pressure to do it that 0:56:26.040 --> 0:56:27.240 it would not be surprising. 0:56:27.280 --> 0:56:29.000 It'd be interesting, but it wouldn't be surprising. 0:56:29.280 --> 0:56:32.000 If you had some press release announcing that some combination 0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:36.040 of parts or iPhones or something to deal with Apple 0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:37.680 was being made in America. 0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:39.840 I say that in part because that's actually what happened. 0:56:39.840 --> 0:56:43.239 After the Obama Romney debates in twenty twelve, Apple really 0:56:43.280 --> 0:56:45.680 came under political pressure and so they created this plan 0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:48.320 to build the Mac Pro out of Texas. It was 0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:52.440 an unmitigated fiasco. To quote one engineer on the product. 0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:54.440 I spoke to seven people on the project who all 0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:56.640 say it was really, really bad. And in a sense, 0:56:56.680 --> 0:57:00.560 what happened is they had to fly in Chinese engineers 0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:03.239 that they had trained at Fox Con to basically come 0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:05.719 complete the product and then stamp it made in America. 0:57:05.880 --> 0:57:07.879 So it didn't do well in terms of volumes, didn't 0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:09.799 do well in terms of margins, and didn't do well 0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:12.560 in terms of being actually made by American workers. 0:57:12.800 --> 0:57:13.799 And that was for a. 0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:16.080 Product being made in about five hundred and six hundred 0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:18.680 volume per day. An iPhone is being made at peak 0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:22.600 season at a million a day, So it's unfortunately, I mean, 0:57:22.840 --> 0:57:25.160 I just am not optimistic about it being made in America. 0:57:25.200 --> 0:57:27.600 We can talk more about why, but there's a whole 0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:30.240 host of reasons. There's probably fifteen or twenty things to overcome. 0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:32.600 What do you think the biggest is? What's the biggest 0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:34.520 is it? I mean, what do you think that is? 0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:37.240 It's the density of talent. I mean that's actually how 0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:38.160 Tim Cook has put it. 0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:41.080 So in other words, like a Jung Joe factory that's 0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:44.840 called iPhone City has four hundred thousand people working on 0:57:44.880 --> 0:57:47.920 the iPhone at peak season. But then those people aren't 0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:50.240 just sort of siddling id by waiting for the iPhone 0:57:50.240 --> 0:57:53.000 to come out. They're doing something else, right, So it's 0:57:53.040 --> 0:57:55.200 not like Tim Cook needs to open an Apple factory. 0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:57.120 He would need to convince someone like fox Con to 0:57:57.160 --> 0:57:57.440 do it. 0:57:57.600 --> 0:57:59.920 But fox Con knows that it only makes sense if 0:58:00.000 --> 0:58:03.200 there's a whole host of other industries operating because to 0:58:03.240 --> 0:58:06.200 have that number of people, which is already impossible in America, 0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:08.040 you can't just be working on the iPhone because the 0:58:08.040 --> 0:58:10.560 iPhone only gets made in peak volumes for two to 0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:12.360 four months of the year, So what do you do 0:58:12.400 --> 0:58:14.120 with the people for the other eight months? Like fox 0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:17.919 one is a master of allocation, you know, efficiently sort 0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:21.160 of tailor tailor, making all the all the right policies 0:58:21.200 --> 0:58:23.840 so that you know they've got their labor, going from 0:58:23.880 --> 0:58:26.400 one plant to another to manufacture different products and working 0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:29.000 with different competitors. Right, that's why third party outsourcing is 0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:32.000 more efficient than vertical integration. But that only makes sense 0:58:32.120 --> 0:58:35.640 if you're working within an industrial cluster the size of China, 0:58:36.160 --> 0:58:36.640 and we just. 0:58:36.560 --> 0:58:37.600 Don't have anything like that. 0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:40.120 So, you know, even in a dream scenario of Tim Cook, 0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:41.880 you know, saying I'm going to do it, I'm going 0:58:41.920 --> 0:58:44.760 to commit to America, he would frankly need dozens, if 0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:48.400 not hundreds of other companies evolved just to make it feasible. 0:58:48.640 --> 0:58:50.240 We're chatting with Patrick McGee. 0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:55.000 He has written the book Apple in China, and it's 0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:57.560 a It's an incredible read. I think what's most interesting 0:58:57.560 --> 0:58:59.439 to me is I've been covering Apple for a long time, 0:58:59.480 --> 0:59:03.160 and I would say about eighty percent of the stories 0:59:03.160 --> 0:59:04.880 that I'm hearing this book are brand new to me, 0:59:05.000 --> 0:59:08.320 Like I like, you've taken a layer, Like we've heard 0:59:08.440 --> 0:59:10.960 so many reports about Apple and Steve Jobs and all 0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:12.880 the products and this and that, but this is like 0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:15.680 a new layer built on top of everything that we've 0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:17.640 heard in the past, like stuff that's brand new. 0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:19.960 So I really think that's what's most interesting. 0:59:20.000 --> 0:59:23.320 To me is I'm thrilled to hear that. Sorry it 0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:25.080 cut out there. Yeah, I didn't mean to speak over you. 0:59:25.560 --> 0:59:28.000 I'm thrilled to hear that. Because I wrote the book 0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:28.680 for the layperson. 0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:30.520 You don't really need to know anything about Apple to 0:59:30.600 --> 0:59:33.120 understand the book. It takes you through the supply chain 0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:35.920 and through its history and multiple countries, you know, in 0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:36.760 a handholding way. 0:59:36.800 --> 0:59:39.320 I think it's pretty easy to read. And it's fast paced. 0:59:39.360 --> 0:59:39.440 You know. 0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:41.960 People have compared to like a thriller, which which is 0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:42.880 which is great for me. 0:59:43.080 --> 0:59:45.080 But I also had someone like you in mind, right, 0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:47.640 and and basically like if any Apple story was. 0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:50.320 Already well known, if it had already been in a book. 0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:52.800 Unless it was just like absolutely necessity, you had to 0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:55.000 mention that like Steve Dobbs standing on stage to announce, 0:59:55.040 --> 0:59:55.840 you know, the one device. 0:59:56.200 --> 0:59:58.040 I didn't want it in the book. I wanted someone 0:59:58.080 --> 0:59:58.800 in a Barnes. 0:59:58.560 --> 1:00:00.560 And Noble to pick up the book and basically think 1:00:00.640 --> 1:00:02.880 I know Apple and go to the table of contents 1:00:02.880 --> 1:00:05.080 and be like, what on earth it's the sewing machine 1:00:05.080 --> 1:00:08.000 repair shop? What does five alarm fire refer to? Who 1:00:08.000 --> 1:00:10.280 are the yellow cows? And what is the gray market, Like, 1:00:10.600 --> 1:00:12.560 I just wanted the reader to be like, I don't 1:00:12.600 --> 1:00:14.280 know any of this, and so I know that you 1:00:14.400 --> 1:00:16.720 know tech really well, and so if that was your feeling, 1:00:16.760 --> 1:00:18.400 then that makes me feel wild pride. 1:00:18.440 --> 1:00:20.840 That's so amazing because that's exactly what I felt. I 1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:22.840 was like, I'm like, this is these are stories that 1:00:22.880 --> 1:00:25.680 have not been told before, and anything that was you 1:00:25.760 --> 1:00:27.480 sort of get a little bit of it, but not 1:00:27.600 --> 1:00:29.640 the full thing because you know that people kind of 1:00:29.640 --> 1:00:31.640 have an idea of what you're talking about with the 1:00:31.640 --> 1:00:33.360 main stories that we've all heard before. 1:00:33.840 --> 1:00:36.800 So a great job on this book. Again, I don't 1:00:36.840 --> 1:00:37.320 know how you. 1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:40.000 Make a thriller page turner out of this story, but 1:00:40.040 --> 1:00:43.360 it is incredible. The book is Apple in China. Patrick, 1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:44.680 thanks so much for joining me today. 1:00:45.240 --> 1:00:45.520 Cheers. 1:00:45.560 --> 1:00:46.720 I hope you like the conclusion. 1:00:46.840 --> 1:00:49.040 All right, I can't wait to finish it. There it is. 1:00:49.280 --> 1:00:52.320 Find it now Apple in China, search it up. I'm 1:00:52.320 --> 1:00:54.840 telling you it's a great gift any for anyone that 1:00:54.920 --> 1:00:57.720 likes Apple in your life, just get it for him. 1:00:57.720 --> 1:01:00.280 It's stories that have not been told before. Put it 1:01:00.280 --> 1:01:03.880 on the website. Rich on tech dot TV, all right, 1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:07.200 coming up, let's see here we've got a question about 1:01:07.840 --> 1:01:10.920 scams and what Google's doing to help. Plus more of 1:01:10.920 --> 1:01:14.040 your calls eighty eight rich one O one eight eight 1:01:14.120 --> 1:01:18.240 eight seven four to two four one zero one. This 1:01:18.520 --> 1:01:25.040 is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 1:01:25.120 --> 1:01:28.200 Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology at 1:01:28.240 --> 1:01:31.840 triple eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven 1:01:32.000 --> 1:01:34.000 four to two four one zero one. We were just 1:01:34.000 --> 1:01:38.400 talking about the Apple iPhone sixteen is the world's best 1:01:38.400 --> 1:01:42.360 selling phone. iPhone sixteen best selling smartphone in the world 1:01:42.440 --> 1:01:44.760 for the first quarter of twenty twenty five. This is 1:01:44.760 --> 1:01:47.880 the first time a base model has led the first 1:01:47.960 --> 1:01:49.720 quarter sales since twenty twenty two. 1:01:50.360 --> 1:01:52.439 And if you look at the numbers, let me bring 1:01:52.480 --> 1:01:55.240 them up here. If you look at the numbers. 1:01:55.160 --> 1:01:59.400 Apple held five of the top ten spots and the 1:01:59.440 --> 1:02:03.040 iPhone six teen doing well in Japan and the Middle East. 1:02:04.040 --> 1:02:07.360 The sixteen E also had a pretty strong debut. It 1:02:07.400 --> 1:02:10.040 was number six in March, not the whole quarter, but 1:02:10.080 --> 1:02:12.640 that was just for March. Now here's the thing. I 1:02:12.760 --> 1:02:15.680 said that the iPhone sixteen would do really well when 1:02:15.720 --> 1:02:17.560 I did my review, I said this is going to 1:02:17.600 --> 1:02:20.240 sell a lot. Why because it was the first sort 1:02:20.280 --> 1:02:23.440 of like iPhone with the AI stuff that seemed like 1:02:23.560 --> 1:02:26.760 it would be a good one to upgrade two and 1:02:26.840 --> 1:02:28.600 it had everything going for it. I mean, everything on 1:02:28.640 --> 1:02:32.320 this phone is really good. So you've got the number one, 1:02:32.360 --> 1:02:35.520 iPhone sixteen, number two, iPhone sixteen Pro Max, number three, 1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:41.520 iPhone sixteen Pro, number four, iPhone fifteen, number five is 1:02:41.520 --> 1:02:45.120 a Samsung six, Samsung seven, Samsung Galaxy S twenty five 1:02:45.200 --> 1:02:49.680 Ultra number eight. The only non Samsung or Apple phone 1:02:49.680 --> 1:02:54.680 the Red Me fourteen C four G that's from Shaomi 1:02:54.760 --> 1:02:58.400 out of China. The only non Apple or Samsung phone 1:02:58.400 --> 1:03:03.160 in the top ten. The fastest growing segment globally phones 1:03:03.200 --> 1:03:07.400 priced under one hundred dollars. And then finally we've got 1:03:07.640 --> 1:03:10.720 another Galaxy and then number ten is the iPhone sixteen plus, 1:03:10.760 --> 1:03:13.760 So I mean, what a sweep. iPhone sixteen is like 1:03:13.760 --> 1:03:16.720 almost every phone on here, every model is top selling. 1:03:17.040 --> 1:03:21.320 That's just incredible, is it not? Wow? 1:03:22.600 --> 1:03:25.120 If you have T Mobile might have heard this story 1:03:25.120 --> 1:03:29.080 about the screen recording being added to its te Life app. 1:03:29.640 --> 1:03:32.120 The latest update to the te Life app included a 1:03:32.240 --> 1:03:36.560 screen recording tool. It was turned on by default, and 1:03:36.720 --> 1:03:39.120 users were not notified nor were they happy about it. 1:03:39.600 --> 1:03:42.400 T Mobile says it only records activity within the app. 1:03:42.840 --> 1:03:45.000 I guess to help them figure out how people use 1:03:45.040 --> 1:03:49.280 the app. Nothing outside, no sensitive info, nothing on your phone. 1:03:50.040 --> 1:03:52.560 You can turn off this feature if you go into 1:03:52.560 --> 1:03:57.200 the te Life app in settings under preferences. Now I've 1:03:57.200 --> 1:03:59.600 got the te Life app on here. I don't seem 1:03:59.600 --> 1:04:03.160 to have it on mine, but I guess it depends 1:04:03.200 --> 1:04:06.280 on you know, your version of the app which you've 1:04:06.320 --> 1:04:09.080 got going on your phone. But yeah, if you go 1:04:09.120 --> 1:04:13.240 into your Tea Life app, go under let's see your manage, 1:04:13.280 --> 1:04:17.200 and then settings, and then under preferences, it'll say the 1:04:17.440 --> 1:04:19.760 screen recording thing, So if you want that off, toggle 1:04:19.760 --> 1:04:20.120 it off. 1:04:22.320 --> 1:04:22.520 Yeah. 1:04:22.640 --> 1:04:26.040 Users were mostly upset because they didn't hear anything about this. 1:04:26.080 --> 1:04:27.760 They're like, wait a second, shouldn't you tell me when 1:04:27.760 --> 1:04:30.840 you're doing something like this? And yes, you should. I mean, 1:04:30.920 --> 1:04:34.560 any tool that's this privacy invasive should have should be 1:04:34.600 --> 1:04:39.600 opt in, not opt out by default. Dennis writes in 1:04:39.640 --> 1:04:43.120 for Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. I'm surprised that companies like 1:04:43.160 --> 1:04:46.840 Google can't flag scams before people get taken. With all 1:04:46.880 --> 1:04:49.520 their tech and AI, why can't they automatically detect if 1:04:49.520 --> 1:04:52.800 something is phony? Or real Yes, they can actually and 1:04:52.840 --> 1:04:56.560 they do. Google is doing a lot with AI to 1:04:56.680 --> 1:04:59.880 detect scams. In fact, I have mentioned on this show 1:05:00.520 --> 1:05:03.680 why I like Chrome better than the other browsers out there, 1:05:04.080 --> 1:05:08.280 because Chrome is actually scanning the websites that you're going to, 1:05:08.960 --> 1:05:11.200 that you're clicking the links on, and it's giving you 1:05:11.280 --> 1:05:15.360 warnings in near real time if those sites are sketchy. 1:05:16.520 --> 1:05:19.800 This is a let's see where is it? If you 1:05:19.840 --> 1:05:24.520 go into your settings Privacy and security, Let's see where 1:05:24.640 --> 1:05:28.919 is it there? It is security safe browsing. You've got 1:05:29.040 --> 1:05:32.800 enhanced protection, which is real time AI powered protection against 1:05:32.880 --> 1:05:36.920 dangerous sites, downloads and extensions that's based on your browsing 1:05:37.000 --> 1:05:40.360 data getting sent to Google. Then you've got standard protection. 1:05:40.960 --> 1:05:44.400 When you visit a site, Chrome sends a portion of 1:05:44.440 --> 1:05:50.560 the URL to Google. If a site seems suspicious, it 1:05:50.640 --> 1:05:53.440 will flag it, and you can also do no protection. 1:05:54.360 --> 1:05:59.240 So there is a lot going on here, Dennis. Let's 1:05:59.240 --> 1:06:02.400 see there's also another thing that they're doing. They've got 1:06:02.440 --> 1:06:05.959 a whole thing. Let's see, here's let's see, here's how 1:06:06.040 --> 1:06:11.000 we're using AI. So Google came out the whole blog 1:06:11.040 --> 1:06:15.640 post about how they're using AI to combat the latest scams. 1:06:16.080 --> 1:06:19.040 And the other thing they're doing is on the Pixel phone. 1:06:19.920 --> 1:06:26.480 They've got a filtering spam unwanted notifications they're now using 1:06:26.840 --> 1:06:29.920 AI to do, and then also phone calls. So this 1:06:30.000 --> 1:06:34.440 is a feature on the Pixel phone. It's called scam detection. 1:06:35.320 --> 1:06:37.320 So it's not only in Google Messages. So if you 1:06:37.320 --> 1:06:40.240 get a message that's suspect, it will tell you. But 1:06:40.280 --> 1:06:43.440 if you're on a live phone call and the person 1:06:43.480 --> 1:06:45.240 on the phone call starts to say like, hey, can 1:06:45.280 --> 1:06:48.760 I get your credit card information, literally your phone will 1:06:48.800 --> 1:06:52.000 cut in on the conversation and say this could be 1:06:52.040 --> 1:06:55.360 a scam, do not do this. They announced it last 1:06:55.440 --> 1:06:57.520 year at Google Io. I have yet to see this 1:06:58.240 --> 1:07:00.040 on my phone, so I'm not using the Pixel on 1:07:00.040 --> 1:07:03.560 a daily basis. But yeah, it will literally warn you, 1:07:05.000 --> 1:07:07.200 and I guess it listens to the call somehow. 1:07:07.680 --> 1:07:07.960 I don't know. 1:07:07.960 --> 1:07:09.600 I gotta don't quote me on that because I gotta 1:07:09.600 --> 1:07:13.000 figure out how is it knowing that says likely scams, 1:07:13.040 --> 1:07:17.280 suspicious activity detected for this call. And then it'll do 1:07:17.320 --> 1:07:22.120 the same thing inside the messages app as well. So 1:07:22.160 --> 1:07:24.640 there must be a setting in the phone in the 1:07:24.680 --> 1:07:27.840 phone app. Let's see, I'm gonna go into settings Scam 1:07:27.880 --> 1:07:32.160 Detection Beta Okay, alert you during a call if likely 1:07:32.200 --> 1:07:35.560 scam is detected. Scam detection will automatically run in the 1:07:35.560 --> 1:07:38.520 background of calls that have the potential to be scams. 1:07:39.080 --> 1:07:42.680 Your contacts are never screened by using scam detection. You 1:07:42.720 --> 1:07:45.880 agree to our terms of service. Scam detection will beep 1:07:45.960 --> 1:07:48.160 at the start of the call and every few minutes 1:07:48.200 --> 1:07:51.120 after to let participants know the call is being monitored. 1:07:51.640 --> 1:07:54.920 Scam detention is as detection is working fully on device 1:07:55.000 --> 1:07:58.960 and call content is not saved or recorded. Scam detection 1:07:59.040 --> 1:08:02.680 is not one percent accurate, and scammers constantly change their tactics. 1:08:03.200 --> 1:08:06.600 Always use caution when answering calls from unknown numbers. Okay, 1:08:07.240 --> 1:08:09.200 so it's turned on on my phone, but I guess 1:08:09.280 --> 1:08:12.400 it's only from numbers that are unknown or likely a 1:08:12.480 --> 1:08:13.440 scam to begin with. 1:08:14.360 --> 1:08:15.560 That's really interesting. 1:08:16.000 --> 1:08:18.439 So yeah, Dennis, I think that that Google is doing 1:08:18.479 --> 1:08:22.639 some amazing things with their with their AI and scam detection. 1:08:23.080 --> 1:08:24.440 It's just you may not realize. 1:08:24.680 --> 1:08:26.760 And what I'll do sometimes is I'll take like the 1:08:26.800 --> 1:08:30.400 same exact URL that I get, and I will put 1:08:30.400 --> 1:08:34.280 it in both Chrome and then Safari and Chrome will 1:08:34.280 --> 1:08:36.320 give me this big red screen that says watch out 1:08:36.520 --> 1:08:39.080 likely scam. Safari just lets you go right to the website, 1:08:39.280 --> 1:08:41.040 not knock an apple. But they're just not doing the 1:08:41.080 --> 1:08:43.479 same thing. I don't think when it comes to this 1:08:43.560 --> 1:08:47.880 scam detection stuff. Good question eighty eight rich one on 1:08:47.960 --> 1:08:50.639 one eight eight eight seven four to two four one 1:08:50.720 --> 1:08:53.920 zero one the website rich on tech dot tv. If 1:08:53.920 --> 1:08:55.720 you have a message you want to send me, you 1:08:55.720 --> 1:08:58.080 can submit it there. That's what Diane did. She said, 1:08:58.520 --> 1:09:01.240 how do I find this Genesis app that fix problems? 1:09:01.680 --> 1:09:03.559 I see a few in the app store. No, it's 1:09:03.680 --> 1:09:07.840 Gemini g E, M I N I and uh, yes 1:09:08.040 --> 1:09:08.759 there's apps. 1:09:08.760 --> 1:09:09.919 This is very important. 1:09:10.240 --> 1:09:12.960 When you hear me mention an app, go to the 1:09:12.960 --> 1:09:15.360 website and get the direct link. I usually put the 1:09:15.360 --> 1:09:18.160 direct link rich on tech dot tv in the show notes, 1:09:18.640 --> 1:09:20.719 this is show episode one twenty three. 1:09:20.800 --> 1:09:22.880 The reason I tell you that is. 1:09:22.840 --> 1:09:25.559 Because so many of you go to the the app store, 1:09:25.600 --> 1:09:28.240 you search for what you think I said, and these 1:09:28.360 --> 1:09:31.639 apps they they play on that they make their name 1:09:31.840 --> 1:09:34.040 just like a main app, and you get the wrong one. 1:09:34.160 --> 1:09:36.559 So always go to the website. But it's Gemini Gemini 1:09:36.600 --> 1:09:38.400 by Google. Rich On tech. 1:09:42.439 --> 1:09:43.040 What's going on? 1:09:43.160 --> 1:09:46.600 Rich Demiro here, rich on Tech talking technology with you 1:09:46.920 --> 1:09:50.639 at Triple A rich one oh one eight eight eight 1:09:50.840 --> 1:09:55.880 seven four two four one zero one, the website, rich 1:09:56.120 --> 1:09:59.760 on Tech dot TV. Hit contact if you want to 1:10:00.200 --> 1:10:02.160 your question that way. I've got a lot of you 1:10:02.240 --> 1:10:05.760 doing that today, so I'm gonna get through some of those. Well, 1:10:05.760 --> 1:10:08.960 you knew this was happening. Went to a new parking 1:10:09.000 --> 1:10:13.240 lot for a new store and no tickets. It's all 1:10:13.320 --> 1:10:18.360 based on your driver's your your license plate, which I 1:10:18.360 --> 1:10:20.080 guess makes a lot of sense, Like why do you 1:10:20.160 --> 1:10:22.439 need to do this extra level? I've noticed a lot 1:10:22.479 --> 1:10:25.719 of the parking lots are now reading your license plate. 1:10:25.840 --> 1:10:28.479 In addition, if you look at your little ticket, sometimes 1:10:28.520 --> 1:10:31.719 your license plate is even printed on the ticket you get, 1:10:31.800 --> 1:10:34.160 you know, like the parking ticket you get, and then 1:10:34.200 --> 1:10:36.720 at the end, after you pay it like sometow you know, 1:10:36.760 --> 1:10:39.800 sometimes you just can go out, like the the arm 1:10:39.920 --> 1:10:44.400 raises because it scans your driver's like your driver's license 1:10:44.600 --> 1:10:47.280 keep saying that your license plate, uh, and then it 1:10:47.360 --> 1:10:49.200 just realizes that you paid and it lets you go. 1:10:49.280 --> 1:10:51.479 But anyway, this one had none of that. It just 1:10:51.520 --> 1:10:54.920 had ticketless, so you you go in it reads your 1:10:54.920 --> 1:10:57.280 license plate, and then when you go out, it reads 1:10:57.280 --> 1:10:59.120 it again. I guess it charges you if he needs to. 1:10:59.240 --> 1:11:01.280 If not, you know, you can just it just opened up. 1:11:01.840 --> 1:11:02.200 Anyway. 1:11:02.200 --> 1:11:04.400 It was confusing some folks at the entrance because they're like, 1:11:04.400 --> 1:11:05.679 where's my ticket that I pull? 1:11:06.439 --> 1:11:06.559 Uh? 1:11:06.680 --> 1:11:08.760 No, there is no ticket. It's a big sign, says 1:11:08.760 --> 1:11:09.880 ticketless parking lot. 1:11:10.920 --> 1:11:12.000 Now I don't know. 1:11:12.080 --> 1:11:14.040 I don't mean there's no you have to still have 1:11:14.120 --> 1:11:15.960 a ticket to get in, Like you still have to 1:11:16.000 --> 1:11:20.240 like there's like an arm there that lifts. Wow, how 1:11:20.280 --> 1:11:22.880 did I make a story that was so easy? So confusing? 1:11:23.400 --> 1:11:24.040 You know what I mean? 1:11:24.520 --> 1:11:26.960 Basically instead of the ticket, they're just scanning your license plate. 1:11:28.080 --> 1:11:30.240 Sandy writes in I guess after my visit to the 1:11:30.280 --> 1:11:33.439 record store, my twelve year old is asking for a Walkman. 1:11:34.000 --> 1:11:36.519 We don't have any tapes. Are Walkman's coming back? I 1:11:36.520 --> 1:11:39.879 don't think so, Sandy. I don't think there's anyone extolling 1:11:39.920 --> 1:11:43.519 the virtues of tape of cassettes, right, Adam, you're a 1:11:43.520 --> 1:11:44.400 big music person. 1:11:44.439 --> 1:11:48.240 You're not no one. No one thinks cassettes are good. 1:11:48.760 --> 1:11:49.080 Okay? 1:11:49.120 --> 1:11:54.160 Oh oh cool kids, oh, he says, cool kids like them. Uh, well, 1:11:54.200 --> 1:11:58.320 if you want to get a Walkman for your kid. Uh, 1:11:58.439 --> 1:12:02.720 there's a website called tro spect r E t R 1:12:02.880 --> 1:12:09.040 O sp E kt Retrospect, but they leave out one 1:12:09.040 --> 1:12:12.400 of the letters and they've got all this stuff that 1:12:12.560 --> 1:12:16.959 is I guess refurbished. I mean everything you're talking cassette players, 1:12:17.560 --> 1:12:20.600 CD players, vinyl iPods. 1:12:20.640 --> 1:12:20.880 I guess. 1:12:20.960 --> 1:12:22.280 I think this is what they made their name with, 1:12:22.479 --> 1:12:25.760 is refurbishing. Like you can buy a refurbished iPod on 1:12:25.800 --> 1:12:28.439 this website, and so they do it all. I think 1:12:28.439 --> 1:12:33.960 they're out of like Minnesota. Maybe let's see VHS you 1:12:33.960 --> 1:12:37.640 can get a VCR. How much is a VCR? One 1:12:37.720 --> 1:12:43.160 hundred and seventy nine dollars for a VCR refurbished? Oh wow, 1:12:43.240 --> 1:12:45.320 that's actually pretty cool. If you want to digitize your 1:12:45.360 --> 1:12:50.320 old tapes, right, let's see what else do they have? Polaroid? 1:12:50.880 --> 1:12:51.000 Uh? 1:12:51.360 --> 1:12:53.640 Yeah, that's and then oh they do repairs too. I 1:12:53.640 --> 1:12:56.519 guess you can send stuff in all repairs ship free 1:12:56.560 --> 1:12:57.360 both ways. 1:12:57.080 --> 1:13:01.439 Within the US they'll repair looks. It's like, yeah, a 1:13:01.520 --> 1:13:02.320 couple things there. 1:13:02.360 --> 1:13:04.280 Anyway, if you want to get your kid a Walkman, 1:13:04.960 --> 1:13:08.280 retrospect dot com r E t R O s P 1:13:08.680 --> 1:13:11.600 s P E k T dot com. 1:13:12.439 --> 1:13:12.920 Let's see. 1:13:12.920 --> 1:13:15.840 Forrest writes in from twenty nine Palms. I'm moving to 1:13:16.040 --> 1:13:19.800 Puerto Virta this July and wondering what to do about 1:13:19.800 --> 1:13:23.160 mobile phone coverage. I currently use Visible, but I've heard 1:13:23.160 --> 1:13:26.280 T Mobile works best in Mexico. Should I switch to 1:13:26.439 --> 1:13:28.960 a US based T Mobile plan or get T Mobile 1:13:29.000 --> 1:13:33.240 Mexico when I arrive Forrest, I think if you're moving there, 1:13:33.360 --> 1:13:37.639 you have to get a plan that's based in Mexico. 1:13:38.200 --> 1:13:40.439 You can't use a plan that's based here in the US. 1:13:41.000 --> 1:13:43.880 I mean you could maybe for a while, but that's 1:13:43.920 --> 1:13:46.080 not really the terms of the service. If you're using 1:13:46.120 --> 1:13:49.799 T Mobile, yeah, you can maybe roam there for a while, 1:13:49.840 --> 1:13:51.559 but if as soon as they realize that you're like 1:13:51.720 --> 1:13:55.280 not going back to the US, they're gonna either cancel 1:13:55.360 --> 1:13:58.720 your plan or call you or something. So if you're 1:13:58.760 --> 1:14:02.280 moving permanently, you got to get a local plan. So 1:14:02.439 --> 1:14:04.400 whatever's good in Mexico. I don't even know what the 1:14:04.439 --> 1:14:07.559 carriers are there, but that's what I go is, just 1:14:07.640 --> 1:14:09.479 do some comparison. Once you get down there, I think 1:14:09.479 --> 1:14:12.360 your plan will probably work to roam for a little bit, 1:14:12.640 --> 1:14:14.920 but if you're staying there, you have to get a 1:14:14.960 --> 1:14:18.200 plan from there. That's you know they reserve that right. 1:14:19.680 --> 1:14:23.200 Let's see here, Diane writes in Everyone's writing in today 1:14:23.640 --> 1:14:27.320 iPhone cleanup? Do you recommend any iPhone cleanup apps? No? 1:14:27.479 --> 1:14:30.759 I don't. Actually there's so many of them out there. 1:14:31.080 --> 1:14:32.320 But the way the. 1:14:32.200 --> 1:14:37.480 iPhone is engineered, the operating system is not like Windows. 1:14:37.560 --> 1:14:39.479 You do not need cleanup apps. You don't need to 1:14:39.520 --> 1:14:42.519 clean up anything on the iPhone. iOS is not meant 1:14:42.520 --> 1:14:45.479 to be cleaned up. The only thing you can do 1:14:46.240 --> 1:14:50.639 because here's the reason. Everything in iOS is sandboxed, which 1:14:50.680 --> 1:14:54.479 means no app can interapp interact or look at another 1:14:54.520 --> 1:14:57.480 app's data. It's just I mean, yes, there are provisions 1:14:57.479 --> 1:14:59.240 for them to build that, but they can't. You can't 1:14:59.240 --> 1:15:01.960 go in and run a cleaning app and have it 1:15:02.040 --> 1:15:05.040 kind of like delete all the extra files and things 1:15:05.080 --> 1:15:05.439 like that. 1:15:05.479 --> 1:15:06.800 Like it just doesn't work that way. 1:15:07.520 --> 1:15:09.479 So the only thing you could do is like get 1:15:09.640 --> 1:15:12.920 rid of duplicate photos with an app, and for that, 1:15:13.000 --> 1:15:17.080 I like clean my phone. They will do that, but realistically, 1:15:17.200 --> 1:15:19.519 just go through your camera, just go through your list 1:15:19.560 --> 1:15:22.200 and just like get rid of duplicates yourself. I don't 1:15:22.240 --> 1:15:25.080 recommend any iPhone cleanup apps. I don't think you need them. 1:15:25.680 --> 1:15:29.599 Let's see here, we've got Paula from Los Angeles says 1:15:29.600 --> 1:15:33.320 I the Galaxy nine Plus that I love. I want 1:15:33.320 --> 1:15:35.439 to upgrade, but want a phone most similar to the 1:15:35.439 --> 1:15:40.880 one I have functionality, functionally, what would you suggest, I'd 1:15:40.880 --> 1:15:43.360 suggest the phone I was just talking about the Galaxy 1:15:43.439 --> 1:15:46.920 S twenty five Edge. It's available. It's gonna be a 1:15:46.920 --> 1:15:48.760 little bit more expensive than the S nine plus. I 1:15:48.800 --> 1:15:51.720 don't know if they're even going to give you. Let's 1:15:51.720 --> 1:15:54.840 see how much you'd get for that, so it starts 1:15:54.880 --> 1:15:57.360 at eleven hundred dollars. But I think what's great about 1:15:57.400 --> 1:16:00.479 this is that you're a Samsung user. It's going to 1:16:00.520 --> 1:16:04.120 be a very easy transition. Clearly you've used this phone 1:16:04.160 --> 1:16:07.240 for a long time, and you could probably trade it in. 1:16:07.320 --> 1:16:10.120 Let's see how much you can trade it in. So Samsung, 1:16:11.400 --> 1:16:15.360 the S nine or the nine plus even go back 1:16:15.400 --> 1:16:20.080 that far. Let's see here, Oh, oh it doesn't. It 1:16:20.120 --> 1:16:23.080 goes back to the ten. So for the for the 1:16:23.160 --> 1:16:26.519 S ten plus, you'll get fifty five dollars. For any 1:16:26.560 --> 1:16:29.640 other Samsung, you'll get fifty bucks. So hey, I mean, 1:16:29.680 --> 1:16:31.680 I think that's better than nothing. If you don't need 1:16:31.720 --> 1:16:34.479 this phone, But they also have a lot of other 1:16:36.000 --> 1:16:38.640 upgrade deals and things like that. Oh, a lot of 1:16:38.680 --> 1:16:40.559 those might have changed now that the phone is available. 1:16:40.560 --> 1:16:42.800 But I'd say the S twenty five Edge. If you 1:16:42.800 --> 1:16:44.320 don't want something, if you don't want to spend something 1:16:44.360 --> 1:16:46.880 that's that expensive, I would just go with the Pixel 1:16:46.960 --> 1:16:47.280 nine A. 1:16:47.960 --> 1:16:49.680 That's what is it? 1:16:49.880 --> 1:16:54.400 Four hundred bucks, five hundred dollars and yeah, four ninety 1:16:54.479 --> 1:16:58.920 nine and that gives you really good camera, seven years 1:16:58.920 --> 1:17:02.400 of updates. But it's not gonna have that Samsung software 1:17:02.439 --> 1:17:04.040 that you're used to, so you may want to stick 1:17:04.040 --> 1:17:08.840 with a Samsung. If you're using Microsoft Authenticator, it is 1:17:09.280 --> 1:17:11.520 getting rid of its password autofill. 1:17:11.920 --> 1:17:12.719 It's going away. 1:17:13.200 --> 1:17:18.880 They're removing the password autofill feature from Microsoft Authenticator, So 1:17:18.920 --> 1:17:22.840 starting in June next month, you cannot save new passwords 1:17:22.880 --> 1:17:26.080 in the Authenticator app. In July, the feature is going 1:17:26.080 --> 1:17:28.960 away completely, and by August you won't even be able 1:17:29.040 --> 1:17:31.519 to access any saved passwords in the app. Now, this 1:17:31.600 --> 1:17:34.439 is different than your codes. Your one time codes will 1:17:34.439 --> 1:17:37.760 still remain no problem, but if you had any passwords 1:17:37.760 --> 1:17:40.000 saved in there, you will not be able to access them. 1:17:40.040 --> 1:17:42.840 Past August, but you can switch to. 1:17:42.920 --> 1:17:47.799 Microsoft Edge for autofill, and it's not there by default. 1:17:47.840 --> 1:17:49.479 You do have to tap a button to turn it 1:17:49.520 --> 1:17:53.040 on and transfer those over, but it is easy if 1:17:53.080 --> 1:17:55.800 you have if you're going to use Edge, if you're 1:17:55.800 --> 1:17:59.040 going to use something else like a password manager, you 1:17:59.080 --> 1:18:02.799 can export all of your passwords to a CSV file 1:18:03.280 --> 1:18:04.120 and move them over. 1:18:05.439 --> 1:18:06.640 But yes, you do have to do that. 1:18:07.160 --> 1:18:09.719 Microsoft says everything is synced, it's all in your account, 1:18:09.760 --> 1:18:12.080 but you have to give them permission to start using 1:18:12.240 --> 1:18:15.320 Edge for autofill versus what you're using. So if you're 1:18:15.360 --> 1:18:19.760 using Authenticator for passwords, Microsoft Authenticator specifically, you do need 1:18:19.800 --> 1:18:21.800 a plan to get your stuff out of there and 1:18:21.840 --> 1:18:26.479 to transfer it to something else. And Disney Plus just 1:18:26.600 --> 1:18:31.240 rolled out a new perks program. I'm not impressed, but 1:18:31.400 --> 1:18:33.040 you know, you might as well check it out and see. 1:18:33.080 --> 1:18:36.679 But it's it's a I don't even understan why they're 1:18:36.680 --> 1:18:43.360 doing this. It's got discounts on Adidas, fun Co and 1:18:43.520 --> 1:18:46.080 Walt Disney World hotels. I should just go to the 1:18:46.080 --> 1:18:48.680 website and see what they have, because it's I was 1:18:48.760 --> 1:18:51.200 not impressed. It's like I didn't really need any of 1:18:51.240 --> 1:18:53.280 the stuff that they put on there, but it was 1:18:53.360 --> 1:18:54.519 it's just random stuff. 1:18:55.720 --> 1:18:56.280 Dash Pass. 1:18:56.360 --> 1:18:59.360 You can get like six months of that Clear Super 1:18:59.439 --> 1:19:01.639 dual LINGO two months of that. My kids actually probably 1:19:01.680 --> 1:19:04.880 would like that. Uh, but yeah, these are this is 1:19:04.880 --> 1:19:05.280 what you get. 1:19:05.280 --> 1:19:06.800 Oh. You can also enter sweepstakes. 1:19:07.680 --> 1:19:11.839 So they've got tickets to freak your Friday premiere Disney Cruise, 1:19:12.920 --> 1:19:16.160 but you do need an active Disney Plus subscription to enroll. 1:19:16.880 --> 1:19:19.559 You can check out your perks at Disney plus dot 1:19:19.600 --> 1:19:22.960 com slash perks. I mean, I don't know, I'm not 1:19:23.120 --> 1:19:25.120 I'm not sold on this. I don't understand it why 1:19:25.120 --> 1:19:26.600 they're doing this. I mean, I get it, they're just 1:19:26.640 --> 1:19:29.360 selling more stuff to you. I guess some are freebies, 1:19:29.840 --> 1:19:32.839 but to me, like, come on, twenty percent off at Adidas, 1:19:32.840 --> 1:19:34.720 I don't know, is that a big deal. Maybe you 1:19:34.720 --> 1:19:37.320 can't get twenty percent off Adidas six months of dash Pass, 1:19:37.360 --> 1:19:40.760 I mean so many credit cards include that anyway, Three 1:19:40.800 --> 1:19:42.200 months of Clear, I mean. 1:19:42.120 --> 1:19:43.280 That's something you could easily get. 1:19:43.320 --> 1:19:45.559 I feel like anyway, if you want to see what 1:19:45.600 --> 1:19:50.840 you got Disney Plus dot Com slash perks eighty eight 1:19:50.960 --> 1:19:53.800 rich one O one eight eight eight seven four two 1:19:54.000 --> 1:19:56.960 four one zero one everything I mentioned is linked up 1:19:57.000 --> 1:20:01.519 on the website rich on tech dot T. Coming up 1:20:01.560 --> 1:20:05.560 this hour, we're gonna talk to ed Bot, longtime journalist 1:20:05.680 --> 1:20:09.559 on all things Microsoft, plus more right here on rich 1:20:09.600 --> 1:20:18.200 on Tech. Still coming up, We've got ed Bot, a 1:20:18.400 --> 1:20:22.519 longtime tech journalist, expert on all things Microsoft. He's gonna 1:20:22.560 --> 1:20:25.280 guide us through some of the things that's happening with 1:20:25.400 --> 1:20:28.480 Windows right now. You know, you've got this big transition 1:20:28.560 --> 1:20:31.640 to Windows eleven. We've got end of life support for 1:20:31.760 --> 1:20:35.160 lots of these apps on there, and oh my gosh, 1:20:35.200 --> 1:20:37.160 there's just so much to ask. I hope we'll get 1:20:37.160 --> 1:20:39.599 through a lot of it, and then later we've got 1:20:39.600 --> 1:20:43.880 the feedback. These are all the email comments and things 1:20:43.920 --> 1:20:46.040 that you send in, so if you want to get 1:20:46.040 --> 1:20:48.719 those in now, well you've already been doing it. Everyone's 1:20:48.760 --> 1:20:52.400 emailing today for some reason. Julie writes in Hey, rich 1:20:52.439 --> 1:20:55.280 your show is amazing. I'm on my own with any 1:20:55.360 --> 1:20:59.040 tech and it's difficult. Recently, I got rid of TV 1:20:59.240 --> 1:21:02.920 and purchased the YouTube TV app through Frontier. I then 1:21:03.000 --> 1:21:05.680 bought the Roku Ultra, which was recommended. We had a 1:21:05.720 --> 1:21:08.400 power outage from our electric company and somehow I lost 1:21:08.439 --> 1:21:11.519 the YouTube TV app I've tried everything I can think of, 1:21:11.600 --> 1:21:14.040 but can't seem to get it back. Any suggestions would 1:21:14.080 --> 1:21:17.840 be appreciated. Thank you, Julie. Julie, how did a power 1:21:17.840 --> 1:21:21.479 outage get rid of this app? Is so strange, But basically, 1:21:21.560 --> 1:21:25.000 as I understand it, the YouTube app is just an 1:21:25.080 --> 1:21:28.880 app on your Roku So if it somehow got deleted 1:21:28.960 --> 1:21:31.960 in that power outage, which I've got to figure out 1:21:32.040 --> 1:21:36.760 how that happened, you can just reinstall it. And so 1:21:37.040 --> 1:21:39.400 if you go, you can do this a couple ways. 1:21:40.080 --> 1:21:43.280 If you go to the Roku store on your streaming 1:21:43.320 --> 1:21:46.960 device just search YouTube TV, or you can do it 1:21:47.000 --> 1:21:50.000 even from the mobile app or the website. You can 1:21:50.040 --> 1:21:52.880 go to channelstore dot Roku dot com, you log in, 1:21:53.320 --> 1:21:55.920 go to YouTube and press install and that will send 1:21:55.920 --> 1:21:58.960 it to your TV. Or if you have the Roku 1:21:59.000 --> 1:22:03.360 mobile app, you can do that as well. So a 1:22:03.400 --> 1:22:05.439 couple of ways to do that. But yeah, I mean 1:22:05.479 --> 1:22:08.599 from your device, just go to the store like press home, 1:22:08.920 --> 1:22:13.280 select store and then search for the app. That's the 1:22:13.280 --> 1:22:15.320 way I would do it, but if you want to 1:22:15.320 --> 1:22:17.040 do it for mobile app, but I would just do 1:22:17.040 --> 1:22:18.800 it right from the ultra But hopefully you get it 1:22:18.840 --> 1:22:21.479 back I know it was it like I've never heard 1:22:21.479 --> 1:22:26.639 of a something zapp in it. Okay, let's see here. 1:22:26.760 --> 1:22:31.519 Amazon this week launched a new, budget friendly, blank video doorbell. 1:22:31.840 --> 1:22:36.360 It's very confusing with Amazon because they've got Blink, which 1:22:36.360 --> 1:22:39.360 they purchased for I don't know, ungodly sums of money, 1:22:39.880 --> 1:22:42.439 and then they also purchase Ring and they both do 1:22:42.720 --> 1:22:46.839 very similar things. But I guess the difference is Blink 1:22:47.000 --> 1:22:50.519 is much more interested in sort of The technology that 1:22:50.560 --> 1:22:55.760 they brought to the table was this really long battery life. 1:22:55.880 --> 1:22:58.519 And you know the cameras they have, some of them 1:22:58.520 --> 1:23:01.120 work on like two years or a year of just 1:23:01.439 --> 1:23:04.679 double A batteries. And so this new Blink video doorbell 1:23:04.720 --> 1:23:08.040 is sixty bucks. Three double A batteries give you up 1:23:08.040 --> 1:23:10.720 to two years of power. So if you want a 1:23:10.800 --> 1:23:13.080 video doorbell without charging it every couple of months like 1:23:13.120 --> 1:23:16.120 I have to do, you could just get this don't 1:23:16.160 --> 1:23:18.840 have to worry about replacing the batteries for two years. 1:23:19.960 --> 1:23:22.519 The improvements include a one hundred and fifty degree field 1:23:22.520 --> 1:23:24.479 of view, so you're gonna get a wider field of view, 1:23:25.080 --> 1:23:28.479 night vision, head to toe view, and person detection. 1:23:29.400 --> 1:23:30.200 Now here's the thing. 1:23:30.240 --> 1:23:34.320 This doorbell does require a separate sink module, so you 1:23:34.360 --> 1:23:36.599 do need to get that, which I guess you can 1:23:36.760 --> 1:23:39.040 use your other cameras. I don't have any Blink cameras, 1:23:39.640 --> 1:23:41.639 nor have I ever tested them, actually, so I really 1:23:41.640 --> 1:23:44.840 should to see how these things work. I've interviewed people 1:23:44.840 --> 1:23:47.080 from the company, but I never really tried them out. 1:23:48.080 --> 1:23:51.479 The bundle is seventy dollars, so keep in mind unless 1:23:51.479 --> 1:23:54.400 you already have that sink module, you have to buy 1:23:54.439 --> 1:23:57.599 that with the doorbell, and then if you want local 1:23:57.680 --> 1:24:01.000 storage that base that coursing module does not give you 1:24:01.120 --> 1:24:03.760 local storage, so if you want local storage, like to 1:24:03.800 --> 1:24:05.800 put a little SD card, you have to get the 1:24:05.840 --> 1:24:11.160 Sink Module two or the Sink Module XR. Otherwise, if 1:24:11.200 --> 1:24:13.439 you get this little doorbell, you got to pay for Cloud, 1:24:13.960 --> 1:24:15.400 which is three dollars a month. 1:24:15.840 --> 1:24:18.440 Also keep in mind is limited to the two point. 1:24:18.160 --> 1:24:21.800 Four gigahertz Wi Fi thirty second clips and push to 1:24:21.840 --> 1:24:24.120 talk audio only, so no back and forth. It's like 1:24:24.200 --> 1:24:26.479 kind of more like a walkie talkie style. So again, 1:24:26.560 --> 1:24:28.720 you get what you pay for. These things are inexpensive, 1:24:29.080 --> 1:24:32.040 but you're not getting the most full featured video doorbell 1:24:32.080 --> 1:24:35.840 out there like you would get from ring. Assume it 1:24:36.240 --> 1:24:38.680 in Orange County, Orange, California. 1:24:38.720 --> 1:24:39.599 You're on with Rich. 1:24:41.400 --> 1:24:45.680 Hello Raach, Hi, Hey Rich, Sorry, let me get you 1:24:45.720 --> 1:24:46.719 off speakable fish. 1:24:47.120 --> 1:24:49.160 Okay, well wait do we have the whole music? 1:24:50.160 --> 1:24:50.360 Yeah? 1:24:50.400 --> 1:24:53.200 Hey Rich, Rich, Yes, you know, love your show. 1:24:53.360 --> 1:24:53.960 Thank you well. 1:24:54.080 --> 1:24:57.400 I I have at least four questions, maybe one or 1:24:57.400 --> 1:25:00.519 two if you could answer a question. One is you know, 1:25:00.560 --> 1:25:04.200 whenever I go, you know, then they make me, you know, 1:25:04.439 --> 1:25:09.920 use a strong password on the website. Yes, And I 1:25:10.080 --> 1:25:13.960 was just wondering whether it pownts first, because sometimes I 1:25:14.080 --> 1:25:17.799 use my laptop, sometimes I use my phone, So how. 1:25:17.640 --> 1:25:18.519 Does that work? 1:25:19.200 --> 1:25:22.840 It does, so whatever password manager you're using will sync 1:25:23.040 --> 1:25:26.760 in the background between your different devices. So I would 1:25:26.800 --> 1:25:30.960 recommend a good cross platform password manager like Bitwarden, I 1:25:30.960 --> 1:25:33.800 think does a great job. You basically would install it 1:25:33.840 --> 1:25:37.559 on your browser and you would install it on your phone, 1:25:38.160 --> 1:25:40.120 and in the background, it would just sink those So 1:25:40.200 --> 1:25:43.400 once you create a password on your browser, it would 1:25:43.439 --> 1:25:44.960 make its way to your phone the next time you 1:25:44.960 --> 1:25:47.200 go to log into that website on your phone. And 1:25:47.240 --> 1:25:50.439 they all pretty much work that way because that's just 1:25:50.560 --> 1:25:52.320 kind of the nature of how they work. 1:25:52.400 --> 1:25:54.280 So the only thing I've noticed is. 1:25:54.280 --> 1:25:58.640 The the quality of the sync. Sometimes, like you know, 1:25:58.680 --> 1:26:01.919 it may not be a media because, especially with the iPhone, 1:26:02.400 --> 1:26:04.880 apps are not doing a lot in the background, and 1:26:04.960 --> 1:26:07.280 so if you haven't sort of like called up your 1:26:07.320 --> 1:26:10.000 password manager app in a while, it may not be 1:26:10.240 --> 1:26:12.599 fully up to date with the entire sink of every 1:26:12.600 --> 1:26:14.840 password that you just created like a second ago on 1:26:14.880 --> 1:26:17.120 your computer. So that's the only thing I've sort of 1:26:17.240 --> 1:26:19.800 run into when it comes to the passwords. But yeah, 1:26:19.840 --> 1:26:23.000 most of the time, if you're creating a strong password, 1:26:23.560 --> 1:26:26.240 the password manager will not only let's say you're signing 1:26:26.320 --> 1:26:29.120 up for a new website, the password manager will notice 1:26:29.160 --> 1:26:34.280 that and it will immediately spring into action and suggest 1:26:34.360 --> 1:26:37.800 a password and then save that password after you enter it. 1:26:37.880 --> 1:26:40.080 So and then again it will be available across all 1:26:40.080 --> 1:26:40.679 your devices. 1:26:40.680 --> 1:26:43.400 But again, when you're looking for a password manager, look 1:26:43.439 --> 1:26:46.240 for one that works on all the devices that you're using. 1:26:46.760 --> 1:26:48.880 Most of them do, with the exception of course, of 1:26:49.080 --> 1:26:50.920 the Apple on is not going to have for Android. 1:26:51.439 --> 1:26:53.679 The Apple passwords. Good question. 1:26:53.920 --> 1:26:56.720 Sorry, we can get to all of them, but you 1:26:56.720 --> 1:27:00.000 know we've got other shows to do, so coming up next, 1:27:00.280 --> 1:27:08.200 ed Bough Talk All Things Microsoft. Ed bo is a 1:27:08.240 --> 1:27:12.880 longtime tech journalist and expert on all things Microsoft. He's 1:27:12.960 --> 1:27:15.040 joining me now to talk about some of the pressing 1:27:15.120 --> 1:27:17.120 issues in the Microsoft community. 1:27:17.280 --> 1:27:17.360 Ed. 1:27:17.360 --> 1:27:18.639 Thanks so much for joining me today. 1:27:19.320 --> 1:27:20.280 Hey, it's great to be here. 1:27:20.360 --> 1:27:20.559 Rich. 1:27:20.920 --> 1:27:22.200 So what is the latest? 1:27:22.200 --> 1:27:25.320 I mean, we've got this big transition to Windows eleven, 1:27:25.800 --> 1:27:29.880 We've got support for Windows ten ending in October this year. 1:27:30.280 --> 1:27:32.240 What do people need to know about this? 1:27:33.479 --> 1:27:39.559 So, the biggest issue is compatibility check that Windows eleven 1:27:39.720 --> 1:27:44.080 does before it will allow you to upgrade a PC 1:27:44.320 --> 1:27:47.280 from Windows ten. And it goes in and it checks 1:27:47.320 --> 1:27:49.360 about a half a dozen things, but there's two that 1:27:49.439 --> 1:27:54.920 really matter. One is the CPU in the system, and 1:27:55.000 --> 1:27:57.680 the second one is a thing called a Trusted Platform 1:27:57.800 --> 1:28:03.040 Module or a TPM that's an encryption chip. And there's 1:28:03.080 --> 1:28:08.000 a list of compatible CPUs, and basically, any system that 1:28:08.200 --> 1:28:12.160 was built twenty nineteen or later qualifies for an upgrade 1:28:12.160 --> 1:28:16.000 to Windows eleven. Anyone that was built earlier than that 1:28:16.520 --> 1:28:20.479 is probably going to fail the compatibility test. And then 1:28:21.280 --> 1:28:24.920 there are also a number of PCs that are newer 1:28:24.920 --> 1:28:28.040 than twenty nineteen that will still fail the test because 1:28:28.080 --> 1:28:32.280 they've been configured using the kind of settings that hobbyists 1:28:32.360 --> 1:28:38.280 typically do a legacy BIOS and turning off secure boot 1:28:38.360 --> 1:28:42.040 and not enabling the TPM so things like that. So 1:28:42.080 --> 1:28:46.280 there's a pretty big population, hundreds of millions of PCs 1:28:46.760 --> 1:28:50.759 that are going to be told by Microsoft in October, sorry, 1:28:50.920 --> 1:28:52.920 you're not going to get any more security updates for 1:28:52.960 --> 1:28:55.960 Windows ten and you can't upgrade to Windows eleven. 1:28:56.280 --> 1:28:56.599 Wow. 1:28:56.680 --> 1:28:59.479 So what's the chance that this actually happens on time? 1:28:59.640 --> 1:29:02.559 Were my not going to say okay, you can find 1:29:02.600 --> 1:29:04.519 We'll give you another six months or a year. Now 1:29:04.520 --> 1:29:07.040 I've heard there's like a program that you can sign 1:29:07.120 --> 1:29:09.840 up for an extra year, two or three if you're 1:29:09.880 --> 1:29:12.040 a business. Is that coming to play? 1:29:12.840 --> 1:29:13.040 Right? 1:29:13.200 --> 1:29:16.559 So, uh, there's a one hundred percent chance this is 1:29:16.600 --> 1:29:19.720 going to go down exactly as it's been announced. 1:29:19.560 --> 1:29:20.479 Uh for years. 1:29:21.520 --> 1:29:26.880 But there are there are basically five things that people 1:29:26.960 --> 1:29:30.400 can do to get past this one. The thing that 1:29:30.479 --> 1:29:32.360 Microsoft wants them to do, of course, is to go 1:29:32.400 --> 1:29:36.439 out and buy a new PC and recycle their old 1:29:36.479 --> 1:29:37.240 one into parts. 1:29:37.320 --> 1:29:39.960 Of course, a copilot PC, you know with that snap 1:29:40.040 --> 1:29:42.839 Dragon chip inside exactly exactly. 1:29:43.400 --> 1:29:45.880 The second thing they can do is, as you mentioned, 1:29:45.920 --> 1:29:51.120 they can pay for updates. Now, businesses and educational institutions 1:29:51.240 --> 1:29:54.599 can pay for up to three years. For businesses, that'll 1:29:54.640 --> 1:29:58.880 cost a lot. For educational institutions, it'll cost next to 1:29:58.960 --> 1:30:03.200 nothing a dollar per pc per year for the first year, 1:30:03.200 --> 1:30:05.439 and then two dollars for the second year, and then 1:30:05.520 --> 1:30:09.360 four dollars for the third year. But consumers can pay 1:30:10.040 --> 1:30:13.519 thirty dollars a month if they want to wait a 1:30:13.520 --> 1:30:14.320 month or a year. 1:30:15.320 --> 1:30:19.080 Thirty dollars a month. A month, Oh my gosh, that's going. 1:30:19.080 --> 1:30:22.320 To Yeah, I should I should double check that because 1:30:22.320 --> 1:30:24.519 I haven't looked at it lately. But yeah, it's not 1:30:25.280 --> 1:30:28.640 it's not cheap, and frankly, I don't think it's an 1:30:28.680 --> 1:30:34.720 option for most people unless you have a business that 1:30:34.760 --> 1:30:37.200 you're running, a small business that you're running, and you 1:30:37.320 --> 1:30:40.080 really need to do that, and you're not eligible to 1:30:40.160 --> 1:30:44.680 go through the standard business you know, the standard business 1:30:45.760 --> 1:30:48.240 program of updates that they have. You know, you need 1:30:48.280 --> 1:30:50.599 to be an enterprise customer to do that kind of thing. 1:30:50.720 --> 1:30:52.320 But I don't think most people are going to pay 1:30:52.320 --> 1:30:55.240 for updates. The third thing people can do is simply 1:30:55.280 --> 1:30:59.520 ignore this and you know, use antivirus. 1:30:59.720 --> 1:31:00.880 Use Uh. 1:31:01.000 --> 1:31:04.840 There's a program called zero Patch, a service that you 1:31:04.840 --> 1:31:06.599 can subscribe to that's about two. 1:31:06.479 --> 1:31:07.799 Dollars a month. 1:31:08.439 --> 1:31:14.080 And they'll take care of patching any vulnerabilities that are 1:31:14.080 --> 1:31:16.040 discovered in Windows ten and they're going to do. 1:31:16.040 --> 1:31:16.799 That for years. 1:31:18.080 --> 1:31:21.559 And what they're an update, they'll give you what they'll. 1:31:21.360 --> 1:31:24.479 Give you what they give you what they call micro patches, 1:31:24.520 --> 1:31:27.559 where they actually literally go in and they patch the 1:31:27.600 --> 1:31:32.200 code on your PC to UH to prevent that particular 1:31:32.280 --> 1:31:35.599 vulnerability from executing. It's a you know, it's a pretty 1:31:35.600 --> 1:31:40.599 fascinating concept and and I think it's I think it's 1:31:40.720 --> 1:31:44.040 legitimate for someone who doesn't want to pay Microsoft a 1:31:44.080 --> 1:31:46.360 lot of money for updates, but also doesn't want to 1:31:46.400 --> 1:31:47.879 go completely without updates. 1:31:47.880 --> 1:31:49.439 It's a it's a good middle ground. 1:31:49.640 --> 1:31:52.040 I'm just I'm looking at the thirty dollars figure, and 1:31:52.120 --> 1:31:56.479 it looks like it seems to be for individual home users. 1:31:56.560 --> 1:31:59.400 It says a one year ESU program, which is what 1:31:59.640 --> 1:32:02.080 end of extended security updates. 1:32:02.400 --> 1:32:03.639 Extended security updates. 1:32:03.680 --> 1:32:05.320 It looks like it is thirty dollars for one year, 1:32:05.360 --> 1:32:07.240 which kind of makes okay. 1:32:06.960 --> 1:32:08.880 Thirty dollars per year, right, I think it's I think 1:32:08.880 --> 1:32:11.800 it's like thirty dollars a month for the business plan, 1:32:12.040 --> 1:32:14.400 and that one doubles in the second year, and then 1:32:14.560 --> 1:32:18.439 doubles in the third year. So the third year, it's 1:32:18.520 --> 1:32:20.600 like by the third year year up to thirty or 1:32:20.640 --> 1:32:21.360 forty dollars. 1:32:21.439 --> 1:32:22.400 And I think it's I think it. 1:32:22.360 --> 1:32:25.240 Works out to something like four hundred and twenty dollars 1:32:25.320 --> 1:32:28.679 per PC for a business over the course of three years, 1:32:28.680 --> 1:32:31.479 which is you know, you could you could practically buy 1:32:31.560 --> 1:32:32.080 a new PC. 1:32:32.320 --> 1:32:33.080 Well, and that's the thing. 1:32:33.120 --> 1:32:35.840 But I mean, I understand the look, I mean, number one, 1:32:35.840 --> 1:32:38.000 in these companies, if you're running like some sort of 1:32:38.040 --> 1:32:40.240 software and you don't want it to break or something, 1:32:40.360 --> 1:32:42.439 you just don't want to mess with what you've got right, 1:32:42.479 --> 1:32:45.320 everything's working, So I understand why you made want to 1:32:46.000 --> 1:32:48.519 extend that. But my other thing is if Microsoft's going 1:32:48.560 --> 1:32:51.920 to be making these updates anyway, I mean, why do 1:32:51.920 --> 1:32:54.240 they want people to switch to Windows eleven? Is it 1:32:54.320 --> 1:32:56.280 just because it's like the time has come? 1:32:57.640 --> 1:33:01.160 There's well, not to get two technical about it, but 1:33:01.400 --> 1:33:04.439 in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, there were some very 1:33:04.920 --> 1:33:11.160 significant security flaws that were discovered in Intel's chip lines. 1:33:11.360 --> 1:33:13.920 Those are the things that power all those hundreds of 1:33:13.960 --> 1:33:19.599 millions of older PCs, and so those those vulnerabilities, specter 1:33:20.000 --> 1:33:24.080 and meltdown they were called, and they were a very 1:33:24.160 --> 1:33:27.439 very big deal. And so basically they represent kind of 1:33:27.479 --> 1:33:34.960 a dividing line between an old, insecure generation of Intel 1:33:34.960 --> 1:33:39.320 based Windows PCs and the newer ones that have taken 1:33:39.360 --> 1:33:43.200 care of those issues. And so Microsoft, you know, basically decided, 1:33:43.280 --> 1:33:46.000 although they've never come out and said this publicly, but 1:33:46.080 --> 1:33:48.519 they basically decided to draw that line right there and 1:33:48.520 --> 1:33:52.040 say we're this is where we're going to begin support 1:33:52.120 --> 1:33:55.040 for this. God now, now there is a thing. However, 1:33:55.320 --> 1:33:57.839 I've written about this. It's one of the most popular 1:33:57.960 --> 1:34:00.960 articles that I've ever written, and I. 1:34:00.960 --> 1:34:03.920 Continue I continue to get email from people. 1:34:04.400 --> 1:34:09.080 You if if you have a PC that runs that 1:34:09.320 --> 1:34:13.759 successfully runs Windows ten, you can force it to upgrade 1:34:14.200 --> 1:34:15.439 to Windows eleven. 1:34:15.600 --> 1:34:18.120 You can bypassibility checks. 1:34:18.120 --> 1:34:20.599 Okay, how do we do this? Should we find the article? 1:34:21.439 --> 1:34:22.880 Yeah, you could find that article. 1:34:23.720 --> 1:34:24.880 Will it be as secure? Though? 1:34:24.920 --> 1:34:27.080 That's the thing, like will your computer be because once 1:34:27.080 --> 1:34:29.280 you're in Windows eleven, will it be just as secure 1:34:29.280 --> 1:34:31.000 as another computer running Windows eleven? 1:34:31.479 --> 1:34:34.400 If you force yeah, you know, the difference will be 1:34:34.640 --> 1:34:37.920 ninety nine point eight versus ninety nine point nine percent secure. 1:34:39.000 --> 1:34:41.320 You know, you're you're not you're not in any danger. 1:34:42.000 --> 1:34:44.920 Uh you know, you're you're running the exact same Windows 1:34:44.960 --> 1:34:49.720 eleven that's running on on a newer PC. All you're 1:34:49.720 --> 1:34:54.759 doing is you're bypassing the technical compatibility checks. But Windows 1:34:54.760 --> 1:34:59.160 ten and Windows eleven are for for all intents and purposes. 1:34:59.479 --> 1:35:03.760 Windows eleve even is a feature update two uh uh 1:35:03.800 --> 1:35:07.360 to Windows ten with some security to faults turned on 1:35:08.040 --> 1:35:11.719 and uh, you know, and with a slightly tweaked interface 1:35:11.720 --> 1:35:12.160 and something. 1:35:12.160 --> 1:35:14.759 But it's very very similar. They're you know, they're they're. 1:35:14.640 --> 1:35:19.639 Nearly uh that it's more of like additional features versus 1:35:19.680 --> 1:35:22.840 exactly a big gange exactly exactly. You know, they could 1:35:22.880 --> 1:35:26.479 easily have called Windows eleven, you know, Windows ten point five. 1:35:26.560 --> 1:35:29.520 Oh and the article has how to upgrade your incompatible 1:35:29.520 --> 1:35:32.479 Windows ten PC to Windows eleven two free options on 1:35:32.640 --> 1:35:34.160 zd net dot com. 1:35:34.439 --> 1:35:36.040 And real quick before we go, I've got like a 1:35:36.040 --> 1:35:36.639 minute left. 1:35:37.000 --> 1:35:40.200 You wrote an article last year, your your your your 1:35:40.200 --> 1:35:41.960 columns are the gift that keeps on giving, and you 1:35:42.000 --> 1:35:45.000 wrote about how you said, basically, people modern PCs don't 1:35:45.000 --> 1:35:47.800 need antivirus. Can you just explain real quick what your 1:35:47.840 --> 1:35:48.800 thought is behind that? 1:35:49.400 --> 1:35:51.280 Well, they don't need third part you don't need to 1:35:51.320 --> 1:35:55.280 pay for anti virus, and you don't need to download 1:35:55.280 --> 1:35:59.519 a third party antivirus program. There is a capability built 1:35:59.560 --> 1:36:04.479 into Windows ten and Windows eleven called Windows Defender Windows 1:36:04.479 --> 1:36:10.320 Defender Anti Virus, and it used to be kind of 1:36:10.320 --> 1:36:14.559 an also ran, but these days it ass every single 1:36:14.680 --> 1:36:19.000 test that the independent labs do and it's not just 1:36:19.160 --> 1:36:24.800 good enough, it's it's it's perfectly acceptable. And the only 1:36:24.840 --> 1:36:28.680 thing you're going to get by by paying. 1:36:28.400 --> 1:36:31.240 For a third party program is more up sells. 1:36:32.320 --> 1:36:35.519 Okay, so look it up under I guess Windows Security. 1:36:35.520 --> 1:36:38.880 Windows Defender is the program that actually does it. If 1:36:38.880 --> 1:36:40.840 you've got that on your computer, make sure it's up 1:36:40.880 --> 1:36:44.479 to date, and Ed says it's gonna be okay, ed Bot, 1:36:44.479 --> 1:36:46.519 thanks so much for joining me today. Really appreciate it. 1:36:46.760 --> 1:36:50.479 The website Ed bought. Let's see what which website you 1:36:50.479 --> 1:36:52.120 want me to give out. You've got a couple of them. 1:36:52.360 --> 1:36:56.200 Yeah, let's go ahead and do. If you go to ZDNet. 1:36:55.840 --> 1:37:00.519 Dot com, slash blog, slash bot, that should get you there. 1:37:01.040 --> 1:37:03.840 But you know you can put it in the show notes. 1:37:03.880 --> 1:37:06.280 But ZDNet dot com is where I do most of 1:37:06.320 --> 1:37:07.559 my publishing these days. 1:37:07.760 --> 1:37:10.640 All right, Wealth of Information, great interview, Thank you so 1:37:10.760 --> 1:37:14.479 much for the information, and get those PCs upgraded or 1:37:14.840 --> 1:37:18.799 figure out it's coming soon October. All right, coming up next, 1:37:18.920 --> 1:37:22.439 we are going to open up the feedbag that's coming 1:37:22.520 --> 1:37:23.880 up right here on rich on Tech, and if you 1:37:23.920 --> 1:37:26.320 need the link to Ed's columns, I'll put it right 1:37:26.360 --> 1:37:28.880 on the website rich on Tech dot TV. 1:37:29.080 --> 1:37:35.840 Back after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 1:37:35.960 --> 1:37:39.160 Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology. The 1:37:39.240 --> 1:37:43.760 feedbag is just overflowing this week, so we're going to 1:37:43.800 --> 1:37:45.800 get right into it so I can get through as 1:37:45.920 --> 1:37:50.639 many of your emails as possible. Alan from San Diego says, 1:37:50.680 --> 1:37:53.320 I listened to your segment with Dave Citron and his 1:37:53.479 --> 1:37:57.680 explanation of what personal information Google collects on us. It 1:37:57.720 --> 1:38:00.519 was very misleading. He made us sound like they collect 1:38:00.680 --> 1:38:03.280 very little and that we are in full control. I 1:38:03.320 --> 1:38:07.280 asked Gemini, Well Google collects it's a lot. I also 1:38:07.320 --> 1:38:10.000 asked how to control that data for the average user. 1:38:10.120 --> 1:38:13.760 Finding and adjusting those settings is very difficult and some 1:38:13.800 --> 1:38:16.479 things just can't be controlled. As you said, when the 1:38:16.520 --> 1:38:19.760 app is free, we are the product that couldn't be 1:38:19.840 --> 1:38:22.679 more true than with Gemini. I felt like there wasn't 1:38:22.800 --> 1:38:25.960 enough discussion about the loss of privacy during your excitement 1:38:26.000 --> 1:38:29.240 over the product. Okay, it sounds like you might be 1:38:29.240 --> 1:38:31.519 talking about Google or Gemini. Sounds like you're talking about 1:38:31.640 --> 1:38:32.519 about Gemini. 1:38:33.720 --> 1:38:33.960 Yeah. 1:38:34.000 --> 1:38:37.120 Look, all of these chatbots are collecting data. If you're 1:38:37.200 --> 1:38:42.800 using them, they are collecting data. Google says, conversations, uploaded files, feedback, 1:38:43.640 --> 1:38:47.919 things are kept for anywhere from auto delete after eighteen 1:38:48.000 --> 1:38:51.200 months even with the if you turn that feature off. 1:38:51.600 --> 1:38:54.840 Conversations are saved for up to seventy two hours to 1:38:54.920 --> 1:38:59.519 provide the service and processed feedback, and some conversations are 1:38:59.560 --> 1:39:02.800 reviewed by human reviewers and retained up to three years. 1:39:02.800 --> 1:39:04.839 So look, yes, if you're using one of these chatbots, 1:39:04.880 --> 1:39:07.880 what you say to it is going to be seen, 1:39:08.320 --> 1:39:11.519 or it could have the potential to be seen. Oh 1:39:11.560 --> 1:39:15.280 more criticism of the AI stuff rich I caught the 1:39:15.320 --> 1:39:17.639 tail end of your interview with the Google AI rep. 1:39:18.000 --> 1:39:20.800 It reminded me of two kids gushing over a new toy. 1:39:21.280 --> 1:39:25.720 AI isn't a harmless voice assistant. It's serious and potentially dangerous. 1:39:26.160 --> 1:39:29.559 Quantum computing is changing everything. Garbage in, garbage out used 1:39:29.600 --> 1:39:32.600 to apply but not anymore. Google, in my opinion, is 1:39:33.080 --> 1:39:37.120 inordinately evil. Most people don't realize it. They've strayed far 1:39:37.160 --> 1:39:39.439 from don't be evil. Please, no more Google reps. They 1:39:39.439 --> 1:39:43.760 don't deserve airtime. Wow, here's the thing. All that is 1:39:43.760 --> 1:39:46.040 fine and dandy until you use Google Gemini for what 1:39:46.080 --> 1:39:48.200 I did last night with the sprinklers, and it's incredible. 1:39:48.520 --> 1:39:50.599 So yes, there's always a good side to things and 1:39:50.640 --> 1:39:53.920 a bad side. Brian writes it on Instagram, Rich I 1:39:54.080 --> 1:39:57.640 love notebook LM. Thanks for putting me into it. I 1:39:57.760 --> 1:40:00.000 use it for my law work, but my guilty pleasure 1:40:00.200 --> 1:40:02.800 is feeding it the detailed notes I take on TV 1:40:02.920 --> 1:40:06.559 shows and movies. The results are mind blowing. I uploaded 1:40:06.600 --> 1:40:09.439 a couple pages of notes on the plot of Twin Peaks, 1:40:10.240 --> 1:40:13.759 very Lynchian, very weird, and it turned my dry recap 1:40:13.800 --> 1:40:16.040 into a podcast that was more compelling than most of 1:40:16.080 --> 1:40:19.519 the real person twin Peaks podcasts than iTunes ouch. It 1:40:19.640 --> 1:40:24.880 understands nuanced plot holes, mysteries, and explained what's explained and 1:40:24.960 --> 1:40:27.839 what's not. This feels empowering, not scary. 1:40:28.080 --> 1:40:30.880 There you go. Lots of thoughts about AI this week. 1:40:30.960 --> 1:40:34.799 Nick writes in another Fear AI could become too powerful, 1:40:34.880 --> 1:40:37.960 even while still dumber than us. We already struggle to 1:40:38.000 --> 1:40:41.080 stop humans from making bad decisions. What happens when flawed 1:40:41.120 --> 1:40:45.080 AI is driving decisions at scale with large language models, 1:40:45.080 --> 1:40:48.200 hallucinations might not be caught until it's too late. 1:40:48.320 --> 1:40:52.000 Best Nick, Wow, let's see here. 1:40:52.120 --> 1:40:55.360 Jojo writes in A friend of mine was scammed on 1:40:55.400 --> 1:40:58.879 WhatsApp by someone posing as a longtime friend. The message 1:40:58.920 --> 1:41:01.640 asked him to zell my to someone else because she 1:41:01.680 --> 1:41:04.320 had hit her monthly limit. Since he trusted her, he 1:41:04.360 --> 1:41:07.160 sent the money, only to learn her account had been compromised. 1:41:07.160 --> 1:41:08.000 Ooh, that's a new one. 1:41:08.320 --> 1:41:10.880 The scammers had access to her entire contact list, and 1:41:10.920 --> 1:41:13.519 at least four others were tricked the same way. Be 1:41:13.680 --> 1:41:16.240 careful if someone's asking you to sell someone else money 1:41:16.280 --> 1:41:19.479 or venmo, double check, call them or FaceTime them directly. 1:41:20.160 --> 1:41:22.520 That is that's a big one. 1:41:23.560 --> 1:41:26.080 Jess from California rites in, My mom in New Hampshire 1:41:26.120 --> 1:41:27.080 has never been into tech. 1:41:27.160 --> 1:41:29.640 No phone, no email, no internet. 1:41:30.120 --> 1:41:32.759 But I got her a grand Pad from Consumer Cellular 1:41:32.800 --> 1:41:35.120 and now we've been video calling and sharing photos for 1:41:35.160 --> 1:41:36.400 over seven years. 1:41:36.439 --> 1:41:36.960 Oh wow. 1:41:37.439 --> 1:41:40.679 The best part I manage it remotely as the account admin. 1:41:41.040 --> 1:41:43.599 I can update settings for my phone, send her photos, 1:41:43.640 --> 1:41:45.800 and even pipe in my Facebook post so she doesn't 1:41:45.840 --> 1:41:48.439 have to deal with the actual site. It's secure, easy 1:41:48.479 --> 1:41:49.880 for her to use, and gives us a way to 1:41:49.880 --> 1:41:53.280 stay closed despite the distance. When one device stopped working, 1:41:53.280 --> 1:41:56.320 they sent a replacement right away, no hassle. Every person 1:41:56.320 --> 1:41:59.040 we've dealt with has been kind, patient and helpful. I'm 1:41:59.120 --> 1:42:01.439 just a fan who hopes more people find out about 1:42:01.439 --> 1:42:05.200 this great option for older family members. Yeah, the grandpad 1:42:05.360 --> 1:42:09.439 is I actually interviewed the CEO or the founder at cs. 1:42:09.479 --> 1:42:11.479 I didn't get a chance to ever air that, but 1:42:11.920 --> 1:42:14.160 it is interesting and we probably should do a little 1:42:14.160 --> 1:42:14.680 bit more on that. 1:42:15.640 --> 1:42:15.760 Uh. 1:42:16.680 --> 1:42:17.040 Okay. 1:42:17.280 --> 1:42:20.120 Finally, Germo from Los Angeles writes, and I've been trying 1:42:20.120 --> 1:42:22.320 out the text ai tool. It seems okay, but it 1:42:22.360 --> 1:42:25.360 didn't answer all my questions. I asked for tequila recommendations 1:42:25.600 --> 1:42:28.120 and it responded I can't help with that. I asked 1:42:28.160 --> 1:42:29.880 chat GBT the same thing, and it gave me a 1:42:29.920 --> 1:42:33.040 full list. Not that I drink, but the subject came up. 1:42:34.080 --> 1:42:37.879 Okay, what thank you, Germo. 1:42:39.680 --> 1:42:42.479 Julie writes in I listened to your podcasts each morning 1:42:42.520 --> 1:42:44.280 as I get ready for work and sometimes in the 1:42:44.320 --> 1:42:45.160 car if I'm driving. 1:42:45.200 --> 1:42:47.200 I have learned a lot and take notes on things 1:42:47.200 --> 1:42:48.240 you talk about. Thank you. 1:42:48.320 --> 1:42:51.760 Julie Mindy writes in I started listening about a month ago. 1:42:51.960 --> 1:42:54.760 Very useful, understandable, and you really go into depth with 1:42:54.800 --> 1:42:57.640 everyone who calls in. I got tired of politics, but 1:42:57.760 --> 1:42:59.479 tech always fascinates me. 1:42:59.760 --> 1:43:00.639 Thanks, thank you, Mindy. 1:43:01.600 --> 1:43:04.599 And Loretta writes in I'm back after almost three weeks 1:43:04.600 --> 1:43:08.720 in Egypt. I really missed your show, your texts, your newsletters. 1:43:08.760 --> 1:43:11.360 I've been busy catching up. You're the only one I 1:43:11.360 --> 1:43:14.360 can truly rely on for tech info, and you explain 1:43:14.400 --> 1:43:16.480 it in a way even I can understand. 1:43:16.960 --> 1:43:18.559 Well, thank you, Loretta. I love that. 1:43:18.680 --> 1:43:22.760 Three weeks in Egypt. Wow, that's a nice vacation. All right, 1:43:23.240 --> 1:43:25.280 that's gonna do it for this show. Rich on Tech 1:43:25.320 --> 1:43:27.960 dot tv is the website. Find me on social media 1:43:28.040 --> 1:43:31.439 at rich on tech don't forget. Subscribe to my free 1:43:31.479 --> 1:43:35.479 newsletter is at rich on tech dot tv. I've got 1:43:35.640 --> 1:43:38.559 I think we're just at almost fifty thousand, so that's 1:43:38.680 --> 1:43:41.600 very exciting to hit that number. 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