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Speaker 2: being here. I really mean that. Well, it wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: another week in technology if we didn't have another massive

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Speaker 2: data breach. This time one hundred and eighty four million

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Speaker 2: logins and passwords are just floating around on the Internet,

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Speaker 2: discoverable by anyone. This was found by cybersecurity researcher Jeremiah Fowler.

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Speaker 2: So this database was found online without any password or encryption,

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Speaker 2: and it contains nearly fifty gigabytes of emails, usernames and passwords,

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Speaker 2: and there are credentials for big name sites out there.

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Speaker 2: We're talking Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Roadblocks, and much more. The

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Speaker 2: data includes logins to everything from bank accounts to government portals.

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Speaker 2: This is a big one. It's a lot of stuff,

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Speaker 2: and the breach is linked to malware called info stealer,

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Speaker 2: and this malware steals your login info from your computer, cookies,

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Speaker 2: even screenshots potentially, and cyber criminals love this stuff. Why

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Speaker 2: is it dangerous? You might say, Oh, come on, they

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Speaker 2: got one one password that I don't use anymore. Nope,

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Speaker 2: they probably have a lot of stuff. Because here's what

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Speaker 2: they do with this information. They take it and they

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Speaker 2: use it for something called credential stuffing, which means the

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Speaker 2: chances are you have used that same password at a

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Speaker 2: variety of counts of accounts online. So even though they

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Speaker 2: if any of them stick and if they can get in.

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Speaker 1: This means they can take over your account. They can

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Speaker 1: use it for phishing.

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Speaker 2: They can send you an email that says, hey, we've

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Speaker 2: got this password, we know you're using it, and you

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Speaker 2: to fix something. They can also get into your email

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Speaker 1: Imagine how much stuff is in your email account.

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Speaker 2: People store all kinds of sensitive information in there, tax forms,

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Speaker 2: check to see if your information was exposed. Not necessarily

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Speaker 2: common websites. Have I been pned? Have I been poned? Pwned?

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Speaker 2: Dot com? This site just got a major makeover, and

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Speaker 2: we've had the Troy Hunt, the guy who runs it

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Speaker 2: This next list combo list share than this other. I mean,

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Speaker 2: a lot of information on here that you can see

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Speaker 2: You really need to number one, be aware of this information.

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Speaker 2: So if you're looking for a password manager, there are

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Speaker 2: Bitwarden is excellent if you are just looking for a

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Speaker 2: these other password managers, Like, why would you pay sixty

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Speaker 2: Of course, there are others. Nord pass is good one password.

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Speaker 2: Malware bytes has a digital footprint portal and it's at

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Speaker 2: Same kind of thing. You pop in your email address.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I look on there, I'm like, oh, that's

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Speaker 2: your email address. Why are they doing that because so

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Speaker 2: many people are reusing passwords. They don't even want to

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Speaker 2: Texting could be hacked, So get something like auth theau thy.

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Speaker 2: Google has one, Microsoft has one. Those are good, but

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Speaker 2: Fifteen years fifteen years, we've had the iPad. This popular

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Speaker 1: I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 2: This whole live like AI thing where you can just

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Speaker 2: The lower right hand corner of both apps, instead of

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Speaker 3: Hello. Rich, Hello, got a question for you. Wonder if

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Speaker 2: You probably can't get it back, but it's definitely worth

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Speaker 2: they're there. I don't think LG had any sort of

436
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Speaker 2: like built in backups to their devices back in the day,

437
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Speaker 2: so I don't think it's anywhere on an LG site.

438
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Speaker 2: But the photos, you know, the Google photos might be

439
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Speaker 2: an option. If it was Samsung, I would say one drive.

440
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 2: Sometimes they back up to one drive on there. But

441
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 2: let's see, so you got that. And then the only

442
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,239
Speaker 2: other thing I can say is is really, you know,

443
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 2: you might download like a file manager like and check

444
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: to see if you can look on the files there,

445
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 2: or just look up Google file manager and you can

446
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 2: download that Google files and kind of browse through. But

447
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 2: I think everything has probably been a race when you

448
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: did that format. But if you look on YELP data

449
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: doctor kind of person, they might be able to look

450
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: into it. The other places you break ifix dot com,

451
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: they may be able to help with data recovery, so

452
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 2: you can contact them see if they're in your area

453
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 2: and get sort of a free estimate on how much

454
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: it would cost for them to do that, but I

455
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 2: think it depends on how much these photos are worth you, like,

456
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: are they valuable? Because this may cost you some time

457
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 2: and effort to get something like that back. But thanks

458
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 2: for the call, David, really appreciate it. Please please please

459
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Speaker 2: back up. I sound like Sabrina Carpenter.

460
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Speaker 1: Please please please back up your photos.

461
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 2: Please please please back up your photos. Just do it it,

462
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: Just please do that because you don't want to lose

463
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Speaker 2: these things.

464
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Speaker 1: And I get it. You got the cloud. It's scary.

465
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Speaker 1: You don't know where they are.

466
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Speaker 2: But just if you have an Android phone, Google Photos

467
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 2: very simple, get them in there. Or if you have

468
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: Amazon on Prime, you get free photo backup unlimited, so

469
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 2: download Amazon Photos. If you have Amazon Prime, it's not

470
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: gonna work for your videos because it only gives you

471
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: five gigs for your videos, so go into settings and

472
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 2: turn off the videos thing unless you have it just

473
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: a tiny amount of videos. But I have so many videos.

474
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: But back these things up please. And then if you're

475
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: on Apple iCloud, I guess is okay. I don't know why.

476
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan of iCloud, but I guess

477
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: it's fine. It's better to have them in there. I

478
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: think icloud's a little bit more confusing, but you know,

479
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 2: one drive anywhere. Just get these things backed up because

480
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Speaker 2: you do not want a situation like David. By the way,

481
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Speaker 2: I mentioned that we're going to talk about Google Photos

482
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Speaker 2: celebrating ten years.

483
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Speaker 1: Ten years.

484
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Speaker 2: I've been using them since day one, absolutely love it.

485
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Speaker 2: In fact, I was using them before they became Google Photos.

486
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Speaker 2: Remember Picasa, that's what it was called. Google acquired Picasa

487
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: in two thousand and four, and this was a desk

488
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: app that would scan your whole computer and it was

489
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 2: so cool. It would go through every single file on

490
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: your computer and find every single picture and then put

491
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Speaker 2: them in this giant scrollable timeline. It was super cool,

492
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Speaker 2: but it kept them all where they were. And then

493
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, Google officially shut down Picasa. And back in

494
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Speaker 2: the day, I don't know if you remember this, but

495
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: Google Photos launched with unlimited free storage.

496
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Speaker 1: For high quality photos.

497
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Speaker 2: So if you took you know, most phones back then

498
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: were only like twelve megapixels, so you'd get like free

499
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 2: storage of all your photos.

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Speaker 1: And then of course that ended.

501
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 2: Then they gave you fifteen gigs and you can really

502
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Speaker 2: find anything in Google Photos. I love the search functionality.

503
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: It is incredible how I can find any picture I

504
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: want in seconds. Now Google Photos has over one point

505
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: five billion monthly users. And get this, nine trillion, nine

506
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Speaker 2: trillion photos and videos. So get yours in there, or

507
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Speaker 2: get them anywhere, or just back them up. I don't

508
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Speaker 2: care if you connect your phone to your computer download

509
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: them there, as long as you them in a second place.

510
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: But that's not as good. I think cloud and then

511
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Speaker 2: somewhere else. Eighty eight rich one on one eight eight

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Speaker 2: eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, what do I want to talk about?

514
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Speaker 2: Let's see, I'll give you my review of the S

515
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Speaker 2: twenty five Edge. I'll tell you what that's all about.

516
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: Coming up right here on rich On Tech. If you

517
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Speaker 2: want to keep up with the latest scams and all

518
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Speaker 2: things on Instagram, that's what I post there mostly these days.

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Speaker 1: Rich on Tech at rich On Tech on Instagram.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The thing is at this point, because I've posted so

522
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: many scams on my feed, people now love to forward

523
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 2: me the scams that they're getting, which is great. I

524
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 2: don't mind it because I can see the trends that

525
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: are happening. So, uh, Friday, I get a bunch of

526
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 2: emails from people saying, hey, what's up with this DMV scam?

527
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: And sure enough, there it is.

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Speaker 2: Everyone is sending them, and I guess it's getting you know,

529
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 2: hitting all kinds of phones. California and New Jersey, all

530
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: these different states. It's just customized for like various states,

531
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: and you don't even have to live in that state

532
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: to get it anyway. So if you get a new

533
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: DMV text that says, hey, you have an outstanding traffic ticket,

534
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: my favorite part is it says it's going to report

535
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 2: to the DMV. Okay, suspend your vehicle registration, suspend your

536
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 2: driving privileges, and then whatever, what does this mean? Transfer

537
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 2: to a toll booth and charge a thirty five percent

538
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 2: service fee?

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00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 6: What does that even mean?

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00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 2: These scammers are just like throwing stuff at the wall

541
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 2: to see if it sticks. Like they're just like, ah,

542
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 2: that sounds good, We'll transfer it to a toll booth

543
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: and charge the thirty five percent extra.

544
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: What does that even mean?

545
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: Scammers come on like it's called chatch ebt get better okay,

546
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: Like you know, you know you can use that to

547
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: like fix yourself and don't send me the angry email, say, Rich,

548
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: why would you give them that hint?

549
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: I am not.

550
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: Teaching the scammers what to do. They know what they're doing.

551
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 2: I mean, clearly not. Rita writes in from Huntington Beach.

552
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: I'm using passwords as my password manager. If I go

553
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 2: to a third party service, is there an easy way

554
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 2: to transfer the information or do I need to transfer

555
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 2: each one individually? Also, what happens the information from passwords?

556
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 2: I just did this recently, very very simple. You just

557
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: export your passwords to a file and then the new

558
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: program will import it and pretty much everything comes over perfectly.

559
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: Now here's the caveat.

560
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: You have to be very careful because that file that

561
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: you have with all your passwords, if that's not encrypted,

562
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: which is probably not, it's probably comm a separated value

563
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: file plain text. Anyone who gets that file could could

564
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: have access to all of your passwords. You need to

565
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: be really careful when you're switching password managers, like get

566
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: the file, move it to the new device, move it

567
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: to the new app, and then delete that file like

568
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: burn it. Now I'm looking at Apple passwords and I

569
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: don't see a way to export on the iPhone. Let's

570
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: see if I can do it on the Mac computer.

571
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: Let's see if that works. Let's see is there an

572
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: export file export passwords? Yes, so you can export rita.

573
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: You'd have to do it from your computer.

574
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: I don't. Let's see.

575
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: Can you do it from your phone? Maybe in like

576
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: the settings. Let's see, you got to go to apps,

577
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: so you gotta go all the way to apps. And

578
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: let's see if I can find the passwords app. They

579
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: changed everything on iPhone to put all the apps in

580
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: like the same place.

581
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see Apple.

582
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see a way to export from the

583
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 2: iPhone as far as I can tell. I mean, doesn't

584
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: really look like there's a way to export. See, And yeah,

585
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to knock Apple for not putting that

586
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: functionality there. But anyway, what would you do with the

587
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: passwords that are still on your phone? You would just

588
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: go through and deletos. Now, what I would do is

589
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: overlap the two for just a little bit, Like if

590
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: you're switching to something like a bitwarden, use it for

591
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks before you go and destroy the

592
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: passwords on your old password.

593
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Speaker 1: Man, that's my advice.

594
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: Wesa writes in what did companies do with all of

595
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: our data, I see no change in my life.

596
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: Am I missing something?

597
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: Basically, the more data they have on you, the more

598
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: they can build a profile of you, and the clearer

599
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: that profile is, the better they can market products and

600
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: adds to you more effectively. So you're not going to see,

601
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: like you know, the change in your life directly, but

602
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: all these ads that are targeted towards you become more personalized.

603
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: The more data that companies collect on you. Now you

604
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: may argue that's a good or a bad thing. Like

605
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: if I'm watching Hulu, which by the way, I didn't

606
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: pay for it. Last night, I wanted to watch this

607
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: new show on there. I think it's called Adults and

608
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: it's like a comedy. I have not watched it, so

609
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: I can't vouch for it, but I wanted to check

610
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Speaker 2: it out. But I refuse to pay the ten dollars

611
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: a month for Hulu because I pay for so many services,

612
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: and so last night I'm literally like, my wife is

613
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Speaker 2: kind of getting a little annoyed at me because she's like,

614
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: can we please just watch something. I'm like, I want

615
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: to watch this new show, but I refuse to pay

616
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: for it, and she's like, well, how much is it?

617
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: I'm like ten dollars. She's like, and you can cancel

618
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: any time. Like yeah, She's like, what's the problem. I'm like,

619
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Speaker 2: I just refuse because I pay for so many other

620
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: things that I want this to be included.

621
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Speaker 1: So anyway, we didn't watch that.

622
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Speaker 2: We did end up watching Hacks, which I do enjoy,

623
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Speaker 2: and that's on my HBO Max. Now well now it's

624
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: it's still called Max, but it will change anyway. I

625
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: don't know what my point was. Oh yeah, if I'm

626
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: watching Hulu and the ads that come up are targeted

627
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: towards me, like I probably would like those better. Like

628
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: if they're serving up diaper ads, I don't need those, well,

629
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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I did for the kids. I

630
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: may need them in the future for myself, so I guess,

631
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: you know, everything is cycles in life, right, but I

632
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: don't need them right now. But if they serve those,

633
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: I'd be like, Okay, well I don't need those now.

634
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: If they served up an ad for I don't know,

635
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: a new car, sure. Anyway, my point is that's that's

636
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: what they use those for. So yes, you may not

637
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: feel the influence immediately, but that's what's happening. Maria writes

638
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: in Hey there, I'm been a loyal fan for years.

639
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: I do enjoy all the different subjects you talk about.

640
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: Let's see, I'm wondering if you're familiar with any work

641
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: from home websites or how to recognize what's legitimate versus

642
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: a scam.

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00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: I noticed you showed us the Amazon scam email. Thanks

644
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: for that.

645
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: On Facebook, there's a few groups inviting people to click

646
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 2: a link to see a seminar about digital marketing and

647
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: working remotely from anywhere? Are those safe? What do you think, Maria?

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Speaker 2: They are not safe?

649
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: No number one.

650
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: No just I'm sorry, but companies are not putting groups

651
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: about digital marketing to remote jobs like marketing to you

652
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: on there, Na run, just just close your computer screen

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Speaker 2: and run far away. If you want a legitimate remote job,

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Speaker 2: you got to check a trusted site LinkedIn. And then

655
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Speaker 2: there's this website called flex Jobs. I have not used

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Speaker 2: for flexible hours and hybrid work. I mean, who doesn't

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Speaker 2: want that? Who doesn't want to just work from home.

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Speaker 2: I mean I did during the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: I hated it. I could not deal with it.

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Speaker 2: I enjoy okay, I enjoyed it for a little bit,

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Speaker 2: like making my coffee. But let's be completely honest. When

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Speaker 2: you are working from home, you are not doing the

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Speaker 2: same job.

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Speaker 1: Oh I can't wait for the emails.

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Speaker 2: You are not doing the same job that you would

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Speaker 2: be doing at the office. Now, I'm not judging you.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that's good or bad. It is

671
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Speaker 2: just different. So, for instance, if I ever worked from home,

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Speaker 2: what do you do? People schedule things. Oh, I've got

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Speaker 2: the plumber coming at eleven, I've got the person checking

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Speaker 2: this at twelve. You got to pick up the kids

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Speaker 2: at two. You got to do this. Oh and by

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Speaker 2: the way, can you go grab some groceries.

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Speaker 1: I need those.

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Speaker 2: People think when you're working from home, you're not actually working. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you do need to get work done, but it is

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Speaker 2: more flexible, and so I think it's actually more stressful

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Speaker 2: being at home for some people like myself, because of

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Speaker 2: all these other external factors like oh, I gotta get milk,

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Speaker 2: and I gotta you know, pick up the kids, and

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Speaker 2: I gotta do this It's like you're still trying to

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Speaker 2: get your job done, but now you've got a hundred

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Speaker 2: other things. We're at the office. You get your job

687
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Speaker 2: done because you're at the office. It's meant to be boring.

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Speaker 2: Eighty to eight rich one on one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: Looks like we've got a special guest.

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Speaker 2: My brother just went to Europe and I recommended a

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Speaker 2: few things tech wise for him, so he's gonna have

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Speaker 2: his observations coming up. U Plus Claude has added a

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Speaker 2: new feature, so is Google Calendar. I'll tell you about

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Speaker 2: So we'll talk to him all about that, and very

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Speaker 2: relevant with what's going on. I've got a special guest

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Speaker 2: right now. My brother just got back from Europe and

712
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Speaker 2: I recommended a couple of techy things and I'm curious

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Speaker 2: how those worked or any tech observations he had over there.

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Speaker 1: Justin Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Rich, how you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well? You jet lagged or what? I am?

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Speaker 2: Yes, very much already. Didn't you just get home? Didn't

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Speaker 2: you just land?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Well no, no, I got home yesterday, but I woke

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Speaker 4: up today at like five am. I could not sleep.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's called late for me. So so you went

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Speaker 2: to Europe? What what countries did you hit up?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So we went to Spain, Germany and Czech Republic.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and you went there for a Dual Lipa concert.

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Speaker 2: Can I say that? Or is that embarrassing?

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Speaker 4: Great? Now everybody knows.

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Speaker 2: You literally like went you flew overseas to see Dual Lipa.

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Speaker 2: But I understand why. I saw her at the iHeart

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Speaker 2: Fest in Vegas and yeah, I get.

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Speaker 4: It, big fan. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what how did the tech work overseas, because

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Speaker 2: you know it's always intimidating. I assume you got a

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Speaker 2: an E sim I did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I went with one of those allow super easy

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Speaker 4: to set up. I gotta say they had instructions that

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Speaker 4: were really detailed for Android, which is a big challenge,

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Speaker 4: especially how fast the interface changes and how many different

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Speaker 4: interfaces and menus there are. So that was actually pretty

741
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Speaker 4: nice and it worked perfectly the entire trip.

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Speaker 1: So what you set it up?

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Speaker 2: You bought it from here, you bought it like on

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Speaker 2: the app, and then when you landed, what did you do?

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Speaker 1: Just toggle it on?

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Speaker 4: So it's had to enable it before you go. Oh,

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Speaker 4: it did, and it just said that once it detects

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Speaker 4: the network in the foreign country, it'll just start your

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Speaker 4: time period then.

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Speaker 1: Right, So it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't start the timer until you land and it

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Speaker 2: finds the network that you're.

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Speaker 1: Supposed to be on.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so it worked flawlessly.

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Speaker 2: What about like the Wi Fi calling, did you get

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Speaker 2: any like calls to your phone number?

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Speaker 1: Did that work? Or what about texting?

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Speaker 4: No, texting didn't work. My phone number didn't work. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so I don't know. You know that all goes through

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00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 4: my main SIM with my main carrier, So I disabled

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Speaker 4: that so I don't get charged for international roaming. It's

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00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 4: like ten dollars a day. So yeah, no, no SMS

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Speaker 4: worked at all. WhatsApp worked, Telegram worked, I would imagine

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Speaker 4: signal works. I don't think I tested it though, but

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Speaker 4: I didn't have a need for any SMS, so I

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Speaker 4: was out there.

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Speaker 8: Okay.

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Speaker 2: And any other tech observations, any anything they do differently

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Speaker 2: over there that you noticed versus here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say, tap to pay is like the

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Speaker 4: main way to pay for everything, and it is everywhere

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Speaker 4: you used tap to pay for all your meals. You

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Speaker 4: used to have to pay for transit, you know in

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Speaker 4: Europe in a lot of places they have public bathrooms

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Speaker 4: that you have to pay for. It's usually like sixty

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Speaker 4: cents of euro even they had taped to pay pretty

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Speaker 4: much on all of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was one of.

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Speaker 4: The main things that I noticed, said that tap to

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Speaker 4: pay was like the primary way.

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Speaker 1: To pay for anything, even tapped to toilet.

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Speaker 4: Huh yep, that's a toilet.

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Speaker 2: Interesting okay, And what about iPhone versus Android? You notice

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Speaker 2: any I love like kind of seeing. You know, are

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Speaker 2: people using iPhone Android?

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Speaker 4: A lot of people were using Android out there. I

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Speaker 4: think I wasn't paying too close the attention to what

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Speaker 4: people's phones were. Actually a lot of people weren't really

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Speaker 4: sitting on their phones too much. I did notice that.

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Speaker 4: But when I did notice phones, it was a lot

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Speaker 4: of a lot of Android. And I did spot a

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Speaker 4: one plus in the wild.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow on my flight home and I get a

795
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Speaker 2: ding adam my, you know my boardops. Love when I

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Speaker 2: just like asked for things like that. Okay, any other observations,

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Speaker 2: any other thoughts? Would you recommend it?

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Speaker 4: Ye? I mean going to Europe, Yeah, definitely a lot

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Speaker 4: of fun. The public transit was also pretty high tech.

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Speaker 1: Google Maps had.

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Speaker 4: Every single stop, every train line, tram line, everything down

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Speaker 4: to the most minute detail. It was extremely helpful. I

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Speaker 4: remember the last time. I haven't been to Europe in

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Speaker 4: like ten years at this point. This is the next

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Speaker 4: time I was here. But the first time I went,

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Speaker 4: I didn't have any Internet on my phone. I just

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Speaker 4: went with a non Internet connected phone, so I don't

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Speaker 4: know how I even made it around, to be honest, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We were on it.

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Speaker 4: We were using it all the time to navigate. One

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Speaker 4: difference I noticed with Android versus iPhone because my fiance

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Speaker 4: Darcy has an iPhone and navigating the streets of let's

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Speaker 4: say Prague, especially you're kind of nestled in these buildings,

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Speaker 4: lots of concrete buildings, stone buildings, and they have the navigation.

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Speaker 4: The GPS was unable to figure out which way we

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Speaker 4: were facing a lot of times on the iPhone, but

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Speaker 4: Android it worked out pretty much falllessly.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Okay, So I have a thought on this.

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Speaker 2: So number one, I have found that it's so interesting

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Speaker 2: you say that because I've always recommended it if you

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Speaker 2: use if you're walking directions, like if you need walking

822
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Speaker 2: directions in a city, I find that the iPhone excels

823
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: at that, especially with Apple Maps, not with Google Maps,

824
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Speaker 2: but with Apple Maps.

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Speaker 4: So we were Google Maps on both phones.

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Speaker 1: Oh darn it.

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Speaker 2: I should have told you about the Apple Maps trick,

828
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Speaker 2: because I'm not kidding. Apple Maps walking directions in any

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Speaker 2: city are incredible, but especially in big cities, and I

830
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Speaker 2: don't know why they seem to be better than Google.

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Speaker 2: But I'm surprised that your phone got the lock, because

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Speaker 2: even in New York City, I have trouble walking around

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Speaker 2: with my phone because it you know, if I'm not

834
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Speaker 2: using Apple Maps, it's like the Android maps for some reason. Anyway, Okay,

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Speaker 2: good to know. All right, Well, thanks for calling in.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: My brother justin you heard that. Yeah, he's getting married

840
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: next year. So yeah, there you go. Very exciting. I'm

841
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: gonna be the uh. I should have asked him if

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00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: I'm still doing that, I'm supposed to be the officiant.

843
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: I gotta get my like efficient license or whatever. Let's see,

844
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Speaker 2: that'll be something new I do. Okay, told you about

845
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 2: a couple of things. Google Calendar has a new privacy

846
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 2: setting on Android. You might have gotten a pop up

847
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: to ask, you know if you want to toggle it on,

848
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 2: but it's basically inside the app. It lets you block

849
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Speaker 2: other apps from accessing your calendar data. So if you

850
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Speaker 2: turn this on inside your Google Calendar app on your phone,

851
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Speaker 2: no other app will be able to tap into the

852
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Speaker 2: calendar data from your phone or from your Google Calendar.

853
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: So before this third party apps could access your calendar,

854
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: you know your calendar information. So you can find the

855
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 2: toggle in Google Calendar menu settings General, and it says

856
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: share Google Calendar with data with other apps. If you

857
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 2: don't want it to share with other apps, turn that off,

858
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: but just be warned. This could break other calendar related apps,

859
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: like if you're using another app that taps into it,

860
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: widgets or video meeting tools, so pretty much anything. And

861
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: this setting only applies to the official Google Calendar, not

862
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 2: Samsung or other versions. And then Claude has added voice mode.

863
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: Claude is sort of the competitor to chat Ebt. They

864
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: added voice mode, so if you want to talk to

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00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: Claude and hear its responses, you can talk to AI

866
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: on Claude and yes it does work on the iOS

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Speaker 2: and Android apps. In beta, you get free users get

868
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 2: about twenty to thirty voice messages. If you're on a

869
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: paid plan you can get more. You can also connect

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Speaker 2: your Google Docs, your Google Calendar, and your Gmail to

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00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 2: Claude so you can ask about that. But overall, Claude

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Speaker 2: Uh And we've got a great guest this hour as well,

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Speaker 2: that is doing really well. I did something this weekend

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Speaker 2: kind of an all one. It actually does a lot

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: I've got kids who all this stuff is really new

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Speaker 2: But it's kind of fun to go back to a

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Speaker 2: We're looking and at everything there. But we walked through,

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Speaker 2: looked to the records, and we were trying to buy

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Speaker 2: a couple. First off, didn't realize how expensive they are.

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Speaker 2: I mean, these things are like twenty thirty dollars up

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921
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Speaker 1: He goes, dude, I don't work here.

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Speaker 2: It's like, whoops, like you look like you worked there.

927
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Speaker 2: I said, well, you look like you know what you're doing,

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Speaker 2: and he said all right, and he didn't. He wasn't

929
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Speaker 2: But the best part was then we were looking for

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Speaker 1: The guy goes, I don't work here.

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Speaker 2: So my point is, I mean, look, everyone that was

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939
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Speaker 1: Both of them didn't. Anyway.

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Speaker 2: The guy who ended up helping me, who works at

942
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943
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Speaker 2: rich what's up. Can I get a selfie? Said all right,

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Speaker 2: can I get a discount? Didn't happen anyway. I paid

946
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1003
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1013
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1014
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1015
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1017
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1019
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1020
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Speaker 2: I think this is an excellent phone. I think it's

1021
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1022
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1023
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Speaker 2: gonna talk Apple in their relationship with China, that's coming

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Speaker 2: up right here.

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Speaker 1: I'm Rich on Tech.

1034
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: I've been very excited to talk with my next guest

1035
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Speaker 2: because I have been absolutely devouring his book. It's called

1036
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Speaker 2: Apple in China, The Capture of the World's Greatest Company.

1037
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Speaker 2: It is on sale now, it's getting great reviews. And uh,

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Speaker 2: Patrick McGee, welcome to the show.

1039
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 6: Thanks Rich, my pleasure.

1040
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: Unbelievable book, really really well done, and it's a it's

1041
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Speaker 2: a topic that you would think would not be the

1042
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Speaker 2: easiest to read, and it's this is a page turner.

1043
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 2: So how did you, I mean, where did you start

1044
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: by getting all these stories and the information that you

1045
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 2: put in this book?

1046
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean, how long does it take you?

1047
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 6: It took about two and a half years.

1048
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 9: I did do the manuscript, like I took one year

1049
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 9: off to write the manuscript, but at that point I

1050
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 9: had already been a seventy page pitch. I had already

1051
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 9: written some big articles about the topic for the financial time.

1052
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 9: So I think if you look at it, it's two

1053
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 9: and a half years. I would say the starting point

1054
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 9: was really discovering what.

1055
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Speaker 6: A manufacturing design engineer is.

1056
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 9: That it's a unit called MD within Apple, and it's

1057
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 9: the third level of the of what Apple calls the

1058
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 9: pyramid structure product development. So without getting too wonky, everyone

1059
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 9: knows the first tip of the pyramid. That's ID industrial design,

1060
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 9: that's Johnny I've deciding that the iPod is going to

1061
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 9: have a chrome back and an all white front, and

1062
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 9: then goes over the fence to product design. These are

1063
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 9: the people who have to fit in all the electronics

1064
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 9: into the dimensions that Johnny Ive and team have specified.

1065
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 9: They have to go, you know, find the materials, et

1066
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Speaker 9: cetera that Johnny IV specified manufacturing design.

1067
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 6: That the group that we don't really know about.

1068
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 9: These are the people who have to go on the

1069
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Speaker 9: airplane to get to Asia, scour plants and figure out

1070
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Speaker 9: where are we going to actually build this stuff, And

1071
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 9: in that process they are co inventing a whole bunch

1072
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 9: of parts and components and the.

1073
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 6: Processes behind those parts.

1074
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 9: So that's where you get the technology transfer in because

1075
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 9: inherently these are geniuses who are going off to Asia

1076
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 9: to work with suppliers that are of course now in

1077
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Speaker 9: an adversarial country to sort of train them up, if

1078
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Speaker 9: you will, up arm them in the world of advanced electronics.

1079
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 6: And that's where it just became really interesting because the development.

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Speaker 9: Of that unit was really driven during a time when

1081
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 9: China was like our next great ally, we were going

1082
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 9: to inculcate a democracy and so forth. But because instead,

1083
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 9: under Sesion Pinging, the country turned to belligerent and authoritarian.

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00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 6: Just as iPhone.

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Speaker 9: Volumes just explode to near their quarter billion per year,

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Speaker 9: that's where you get this really problematic state of affairs.

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Speaker 9: So a standard corporate history becomes feal political really quickly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, everyone, you know, we've heard so many stories.

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Speaker 2: I mean, fox con has become a household name, and

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Speaker 2: of course you talk about the rise of that company

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Speaker 2: and how they assemble the phones in just all the

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Speaker 2: ways that you know. My main takeaway, and I'm not

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00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: done with the book just yet, but my main takeaway

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00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: is that Apple just keeps getting deeper into China without

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Speaker 2: actually trying. But it just keeps happening and happening and happening.

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Speaker 2: Is that fair to say?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, so things are a little bit in

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00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 9: a sense worse than they were in two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 6: So by two thousand and nine, virtually everything was already.

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Speaker 9: In China, but very little of the value add was

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Speaker 9: Chinese company it was mostly multinationals operating in China. But

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00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 9: over time what's happened is the iPhone like within itself,

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00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 9: has become more Chinese. And that's because the Taiwanese company

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00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 9: is like Fox KHN, like Pegatron, wistraan Quanta, They've basically

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00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 9: been pushed out because under Seshin Ping, there's this directive

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Speaker 9: to prioritize what.

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Speaker 6: He calls indigenous innovation.

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Speaker 9: The grand policy behind this is called Made in China's

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Speaker 9: twenty five and so basically like companies that are closer

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Speaker 9: to this state, so companies that are Chinese, they are

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Speaker 9: able to get you know, better access to land, better

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Speaker 9: access to tooling and machinery, better access to people that

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Speaker 9: man the factories, and by doing so they're able to

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Speaker 9: operate at lower margins. Right, they also get state subsidies,

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Speaker 9: and so by offering lower margins to Apple, they increasingly

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Speaker 9: win the deals. And so they're often you know, hiring

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Speaker 9: directly from the Fox con parking lot, let's say, like

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Speaker 9: grabbing people and saying I'll double your pay on the spot.

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Speaker 9: And so you're really seeing this like red supply chain

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Speaker 9: development really being accelerated over the last six seven years

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Speaker 9: in particular, and that of course is concerning as well,

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Speaker 9: because it used to be the case that multinationals had

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Speaker 9: the experiential know how of how to do this, but

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Speaker 9: at this point they're actually several years behind. It's the

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Speaker 9: Chinese companies that are getting all the latest and greatest

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Speaker 9: cutting edge development.

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Speaker 1: Now unless you live under our rock.

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Speaker 2: You've seen the news, and you wrote this book and

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00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 2: it came out even before a lot of this tariff stuff.

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Speaker 2: But Trump said, you know, they want a twenty five

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00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 2: five percent or what's the latest of that? I mean,

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Speaker 2: I guess he said he wants to make the iPhone

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Speaker 2: here in the US. And if it's not, it's got

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Speaker 2: they've got to pay like a twenty five percent tariff.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of all of that stuff? Like

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Speaker 2: could the iPhone be made in the US? And you know,

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Speaker 2: Apple and Trump or Tim Cook and Trump seem to

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Speaker 2: be like frenemies at this point.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I would stridently say the iPhone is

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Speaker 9: never going to be built in America, except that Tim

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00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 9: Cook is under such political pressure to do it that

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Speaker 9: it would not be surprising.

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Speaker 6: It'd be interesting, but it wouldn't be surprising.

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Speaker 9: If you had some press release announcing that some combination

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00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 9: of parts or iPhones or something to deal with Apple

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00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 9: was being made in America.

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Speaker 6: I say that in part because that's actually what happened.

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Speaker 9: After the Obama Romney debates in twenty twelve, Apple really

1149
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 9: came under political pressure and so they created this plan

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00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 9: to build the Mac Pro out of Texas. It was

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00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 9: an unmitigated fiasco. To quote one engineer on the product.

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00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 9: I spoke to seven people on the project who all

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00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 9: say it was really, really bad. And in a sense,

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00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 9: what happened is they had to fly in Chinese engineers

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00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 9: that they had trained at Fox Con to basically come

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00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 9: complete the product and then stamp it made in America.

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00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 9: So it didn't do well in terms of volumes, didn't

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00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 9: do well in terms of margins, and didn't do well

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Speaker 9: in terms of being actually made by American workers.

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Speaker 6: And that was for a.

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Speaker 9: Product being made in about five hundred and six hundred

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00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 9: volume per day. An iPhone is being made at peak

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00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 9: season at a million a day, So it's unfortunately, I mean,

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Speaker 9: I just am not optimistic about it being made in America.

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Speaker 9: We can talk more about why, but there's a whole

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Speaker 9: host of reasons. There's probably fifteen or twenty things to overcome.

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Speaker 9: What do you think the biggest is? What's the biggest

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Speaker 9: is it? I mean, what do you think that is?

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Speaker 6: It's the density of talent. I mean that's actually how

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Speaker 6: Tim Cook has put it.

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Speaker 9: So in other words, like a Jung Joe factory that's

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Speaker 9: called iPhone City has four hundred thousand people working on

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Speaker 9: the iPhone at peak season. But then those people aren't

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Speaker 9: just sort of siddling id by waiting for the iPhone

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00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 9: to come out. They're doing something else, right, So it's

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Speaker 9: not like Tim Cook needs to open an Apple factory.

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Speaker 6: He would need to convince someone like fox Con to

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Speaker 6: do it.

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Speaker 9: But fox Con knows that it only makes sense if

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00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 9: there's a whole host of other industries operating because to

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00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 9: have that number of people, which is already impossible in America,

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Speaker 9: you can't just be working on the iPhone because the

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00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 9: iPhone only gets made in peak volumes for two to

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00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 9: four months of the year, So what do you do

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Speaker 9: with the people for the other eight months? Like fox

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00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,919
Speaker 9: one is a master of allocation, you know, efficiently sort

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00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 9: of tailor tailor, making all the all the right policies

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00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 9: so that you know they've got their labor, going from

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Speaker 9: one plant to another to manufacture different products and working

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Speaker 9: with different competitors. Right, that's why third party outsourcing is

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00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 9: more efficient than vertical integration. But that only makes sense

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00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 9: if you're working within an industrial cluster the size of China,

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00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 9: and we just.

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Speaker 6: Don't have anything like that.

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Speaker 9: So, you know, even in a dream scenario of Tim Cook,

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Speaker 9: you know, saying I'm going to do it, I'm going

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Speaker 9: to commit to America, he would frankly need dozens, if

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Speaker 9: not hundreds of other companies evolved just to make it feasible.

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Speaker 1: We're chatting with Patrick McGee.

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Speaker 2: He has written the book Apple in China, and it's

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Speaker 2: a It's an incredible read. I think what's most interesting

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00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 2: to me is I've been covering Apple for a long time,

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00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 2: and I would say about eighty percent of the stories

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00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 2: that I'm hearing this book are brand new to me,

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00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: Like I like, you've taken a layer, Like we've heard

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00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: so many reports about Apple and Steve Jobs and all

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00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: the products and this and that, but this is like

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00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 2: a new layer built on top of everything that we've

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00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: heard in the past, like stuff that's brand new.

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Speaker 1: So I really think that's what's most interesting.

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Speaker 6: To me is I'm thrilled to hear that. Sorry it

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00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 6: cut out there. Yeah, I didn't mean to speak over you.

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00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 6: I'm thrilled to hear that. Because I wrote the book

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00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 6: for the layperson.

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00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 9: You don't really need to know anything about Apple to

1216
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 9: understand the book. It takes you through the supply chain

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00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 9: and through its history and multiple countries, you know, in

1218
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 9: a handholding way.

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00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 6: I think it's pretty easy to read. And it's fast paced.

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00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 2: You know.

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00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 6: People have compared to like a thriller, which which is

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00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 6: which is great for me.

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00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 9: But I also had someone like you in mind, right,

1224
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 9: and and basically like if any Apple story was.

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00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 6: Already well known, if it had already been in a book.

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00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 9: Unless it was just like absolutely necessity, you had to

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00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 9: mention that like Steve Dobbs standing on stage to announce,

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00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 9: you know, the one device.

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00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 6: I didn't want it in the book. I wanted someone

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00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 6: in a Barnes.

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Speaker 9: And Noble to pick up the book and basically think

1232
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 9: I know Apple and go to the table of contents

1233
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 9: and be like, what on earth it's the sewing machine

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01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 9: repair shop? What does five alarm fire refer to? Who

1235
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 9: are the yellow cows? And what is the gray market, Like,

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01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 9: I just wanted the reader to be like, I don't

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01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 9: know any of this, and so I know that you

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01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 9: know tech really well, and so if that was your feeling,

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01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 9: then that makes me feel wild pride.

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Speaker 2: That's so amazing because that's exactly what I felt. I

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01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: was like, I'm like, this is these are stories that

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01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 2: have not been told before, and anything that was you

1243
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: sort of get a little bit of it, but not

1244
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 2: the full thing because you know that people kind of

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01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: have an idea of what you're talking about with the

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01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 2: main stories that we've all heard before.

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Speaker 1: So a great job on this book. Again, I don't

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01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: know how you.

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01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: Make a thriller page turner out of this story, but

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01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: it is incredible. The book is Apple in China. Patrick,

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01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 2: thanks so much for joining me today.

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Speaker 1: Cheers.

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01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 6: I hope you like the conclusion.

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Speaker 1: All right, I can't wait to finish it. There it is.

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Speaker 2: Find it now Apple in China, search it up. I'm

1256
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: telling you it's a great gift any for anyone that

1257
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 2: likes Apple in your life, just get it for him.

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01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: It's stories that have not been told before. Put it

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Speaker 2: on the website. Rich on tech dot TV, all right,

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Speaker 2: coming up, let's see here we've got a question about

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01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 2: scams and what Google's doing to help. Plus more of

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Speaker 2: your calls eighty eight rich one O one eight eight

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Speaker 2: eight seven four to two four one zero one. This

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Speaker 2: is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology at

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Speaker 2: triple eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven

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Speaker 2: four to two four one zero one. We were just

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Speaker 2: talking about the Apple iPhone sixteen is the world's best

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Speaker 2: selling phone. iPhone sixteen best selling smartphone in the world

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01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: for the first quarter of twenty twenty five. This is

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01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 2: the first time a base model has led the first

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01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: quarter sales since twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at the numbers, let me bring

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Speaker 1: them up here. If you look at the numbers.

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Speaker 2: Apple held five of the top ten spots and the

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01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 2: iPhone six teen doing well in Japan and the Middle East.

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01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: The sixteen E also had a pretty strong debut. It

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01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 2: was number six in March, not the whole quarter, but

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Speaker 2: that was just for March. Now here's the thing. I

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01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: said that the iPhone sixteen would do really well when

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01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: I did my review, I said this is going to

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01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: sell a lot. Why because it was the first sort

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01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 2: of like iPhone with the AI stuff that seemed like

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01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 2: it would be a good one to upgrade two and

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01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 2: it had everything going for it. I mean, everything on

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01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 2: this phone is really good. So you've got the number one,

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Speaker 2: iPhone sixteen, number two, iPhone sixteen Pro Max, number three,

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Speaker 2: iPhone sixteen Pro, number four, iPhone fifteen, number five is

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Speaker 2: a Samsung six, Samsung seven, Samsung Galaxy S twenty five

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Speaker 2: Ultra number eight. The only non Samsung or Apple phone

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Speaker 2: the Red Me fourteen C four G that's from Shaomi

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01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: out of China. The only non Apple or Samsung phone

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01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: in the top ten. The fastest growing segment globally phones

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01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 2: priced under one hundred dollars. And then finally we've got

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01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 2: another Galaxy and then number ten is the iPhone sixteen plus,

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01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 2: So I mean, what a sweep. iPhone sixteen is like

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01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 2: almost every phone on here, every model is top selling.

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Speaker 1: That's just incredible, is it not? Wow?

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Speaker 2: If you have T Mobile might have heard this story

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Speaker 2: about the screen recording being added to its te Life app.

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Speaker 2: The latest update to the te Life app included a

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Speaker 2: screen recording tool. It was turned on by default, and

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Speaker 2: users were not notified nor were they happy about it.

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Speaker 2: T Mobile says it only records activity within the app.

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Speaker 2: I guess to help them figure out how people use

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Speaker 2: the app. Nothing outside, no sensitive info, nothing on your phone.

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Speaker 2: You can turn off this feature if you go into

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Speaker 2: the te Life app in settings under preferences. Now I've

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Speaker 2: got the te Life app on here. I don't seem

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Speaker 2: to have it on mine, but I guess it depends

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Speaker 2: on you know, your version of the app which you've

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Speaker 2: got going on your phone. But yeah, if you go

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Speaker 2: into your Tea Life app, go under let's see your manage,

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Speaker 2: and then settings, and then under preferences, it'll say the

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Speaker 2: screen recording thing, So if you want that off, toggle

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Speaker 2: it off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Users were mostly upset because they didn't hear anything about this.

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Speaker 2: They're like, wait a second, shouldn't you tell me when

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Speaker 2: you're doing something like this? And yes, you should. I mean,

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Speaker 2: any tool that's this privacy invasive should have should be

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Speaker 2: opt in, not opt out by default. Dennis writes in

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Speaker 2: for Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. I'm surprised that companies like

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Speaker 2: Google can't flag scams before people get taken. With all

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Speaker 2: their tech and AI, why can't they automatically detect if

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Speaker 2: something is phony? Or real Yes, they can actually and

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Speaker 2: they do. Google is doing a lot with AI to

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Speaker 2: detect scams. In fact, I have mentioned on this show

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Speaker 2: why I like Chrome better than the other browsers out there,

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Speaker 2: because Chrome is actually scanning the websites that you're going to,

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Speaker 2: that you're clicking the links on, and it's giving you

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Speaker 2: warnings in near real time if those sites are sketchy.

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Speaker 2: This is a let's see where is it? If you

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Speaker 2: go into your settings Privacy and security, Let's see where

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Speaker 2: is it there? It is security safe browsing. You've got

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Speaker 2: enhanced protection, which is real time AI powered protection against

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Speaker 2: dangerous sites, downloads and extensions that's based on your browsing

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Speaker 2: data getting sent to Google. Then you've got standard protection.

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Speaker 2: When you visit a site, Chrome sends a portion of

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Speaker 2: the URL to Google. If a site seems suspicious, it

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Speaker 2: will flag it, and you can also do no protection.

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Speaker 2: So there is a lot going on here, Dennis. Let's

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Speaker 2: see there's also another thing that they're doing. They've got

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Speaker 2: a whole thing. Let's see, here's let's see, here's how

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01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: we're using AI. So Google came out the whole blog

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01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 2: post about how they're using AI to combat the latest scams.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing they're doing is on the Pixel phone.

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Speaker 2: They've got a filtering spam unwanted notifications they're now using

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Speaker 2: AI to do, and then also phone calls. So this

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Speaker 2: is a feature on the Pixel phone. It's called scam detection.

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Speaker 2: So it's not only in Google Messages. So if you

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Speaker 2: get a message that's suspect, it will tell you. But

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Speaker 2: if you're on a live phone call and the person

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01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: on the phone call starts to say like, hey, can

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01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 2: I get your credit card information, literally your phone will

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Speaker 2: cut in on the conversation and say this could be

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Speaker 2: a scam, do not do this. They announced it last

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Speaker 2: year at Google Io. I have yet to see this

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Speaker 2: on my phone, so I'm not using the Pixel on

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Speaker 2: a daily basis. But yeah, it will literally warn you,

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Speaker 2: and I guess it listens to the call somehow.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I gotta don't quote me on that because I gotta

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01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 2: figure out how is it knowing that says likely scams,

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Speaker 2: suspicious activity detected for this call. And then it'll do

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Speaker 2: the same thing inside the messages app as well. So

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Speaker 2: there must be a setting in the phone in the

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Speaker 2: phone app. Let's see, I'm gonna go into settings Scam

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Speaker 2: Detection Beta Okay, alert you during a call if likely

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Speaker 2: scam is detected. Scam detection will automatically run in the

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Speaker 2: background of calls that have the potential to be scams.

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Speaker 2: Your contacts are never screened by using scam detection. You

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Speaker 2: agree to our terms of service. Scam detection will beep

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Speaker 2: at the start of the call and every few minutes

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Speaker 2: after to let participants know the call is being monitored.

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Speaker 2: Scam detention is as detection is working fully on device

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Speaker 2: and call content is not saved or recorded. Scam detection

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01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 2: is not one percent accurate, and scammers constantly change their tactics.

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Speaker 2: Always use caution when answering calls from unknown numbers. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so it's turned on on my phone, but I guess

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Speaker 2: it's only from numbers that are unknown or likely a

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Speaker 2: scam to begin with.

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Speaker 1: That's really interesting.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Dennis, I think that that Google is doing

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Speaker 2: some amazing things with their with their AI and scam detection.

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Speaker 1: It's just you may not realize.

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Speaker 2: And what I'll do sometimes is I'll take like the

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Speaker 2: same exact URL that I get, and I will put

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Speaker 2: it in both Chrome and then Safari and Chrome will

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Speaker 2: give me this big red screen that says watch out

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Speaker 2: likely scam. Safari just lets you go right to the website,

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Speaker 2: not knock an apple. But they're just not doing the

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01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 2: same thing. I don't think when it comes to this

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Speaker 2: scam detection stuff. Good question eighty eight rich one on

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Speaker 2: one eight eight eight seven four to two four one

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Speaker 2: zero one the website rich on tech dot tv. If

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01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 2: you have a message you want to send me, you

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01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 2: can submit it there. That's what Diane did. She said,

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Speaker 2: how do I find this Genesis app that fix problems?

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Speaker 2: I see a few in the app store. No, it's

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Speaker 2: Gemini g E, M I N I and uh, yes

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01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:08,759
Speaker 2: there's apps.

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Speaker 1: This is very important.

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01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 2: When you hear me mention an app, go to the

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01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 2: website and get the direct link. I usually put the

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Speaker 2: direct link rich on tech dot tv in the show notes,

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01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 2: this is show episode one twenty three.

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Speaker 1: The reason I tell you that is.

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01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 2: Because so many of you go to the the app store,

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01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: you search for what you think I said, and these

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01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 2: apps they they play on that they make their name

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01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 2: just like a main app, and you get the wrong one.

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01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 2: So always go to the website. But it's Gemini Gemini

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Speaker 2: by Google. Rich On tech.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Rich Demiro here, rich on Tech talking technology with you

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Speaker 2: at Triple A rich one oh one eight eight eight

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Speaker 2: seven four two four one zero one, the website, rich

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Speaker 2: on Tech dot TV. Hit contact if you want to

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01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 2: your question that way. I've got a lot of you

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01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 2: doing that today, so I'm gonna get through some of those. Well,

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01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 2: you knew this was happening. Went to a new parking

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01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 2: lot for a new store and no tickets. It's all

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01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 2: based on your driver's your your license plate, which I

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01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: guess makes a lot of sense, Like why do you

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01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 2: need to do this extra level? I've noticed a lot

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01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 2: of the parking lots are now reading your license plate.

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01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 2: In addition, if you look at your little ticket, sometimes

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01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,719
Speaker 2: your license plate is even printed on the ticket you get,

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01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 2: you know, like the parking ticket you get, and then

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01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 2: at the end, after you pay it like sometow you know,

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01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 2: sometimes you just can go out, like the the arm

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01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 2: raises because it scans your driver's like your driver's license

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01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 2: keep saying that your license plate, uh, and then it

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01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 2: just realizes that you paid and it lets you go.

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01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 2: But anyway, this one had none of that. It just

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01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 2: had ticketless, so you you go in it reads your

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01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 2: license plate, and then when you go out, it reads

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01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 2: it again. I guess it charges you if he needs to.

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01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: If not, you know, you can just it just opened up.

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01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: Anyway.

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01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: It was confusing some folks at the entrance because they're like,

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01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 2: where's my ticket that I pull?

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01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 4: Uh?

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01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 2: No, there is no ticket. It's a big sign, says

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01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: ticketless parking lot.

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01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: Now I don't know.

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01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 2: I don't mean there's no you have to still have

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01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 2: a ticket to get in, Like you still have to

1450
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 2: like there's like an arm there that lifts. Wow, how

1451
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 2: did I make a story that was so easy? So confusing?

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01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: Basically instead of the ticket, they're just scanning your license plate.

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01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 2: Sandy writes in I guess after my visit to the

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01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 2: record store, my twelve year old is asking for a Walkman.

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01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 2: We don't have any tapes. Are Walkman's coming back? I

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01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,879
Speaker 2: don't think so, Sandy. I don't think there's anyone extolling

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01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 2: the virtues of tape of cassettes, right, Adam, you're a

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01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 2: big music person.

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Speaker 1: You're not no one. No one thinks cassettes are good.

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Speaker 8: Okay?

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01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 2: Oh oh cool kids, oh, he says, cool kids like them. Uh, well,

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01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 2: if you want to get a Walkman for your kid. Uh,

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01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 2: there's a website called tro spect r E t R

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01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 2: O sp E kt Retrospect, but they leave out one

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01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 2: of the letters and they've got all this stuff that

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01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:16,959
Speaker 2: is I guess refurbished. I mean everything you're talking cassette players,

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Speaker 2: CD players, vinyl iPods.

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 2: I think this is what they made their name with,

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01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 2: is refurbishing. Like you can buy a refurbished iPod on

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Speaker 2: this website, and so they do it all. I think

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01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 2: they're out of like Minnesota. Maybe let's see VHS you

1474
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 2: can get a VCR. How much is a VCR? One

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01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy nine dollars for a VCR refurbished? Oh wow,

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01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 2: that's actually pretty cool. If you want to digitize your

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Speaker 2: old tapes, right, let's see what else do they have? Polaroid?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and then oh they do repairs too. I

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01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: guess you can send stuff in all repairs ship free

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01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 2: both ways.

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01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: Within the US they'll repair looks. It's like, yeah, a

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01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: couple things there.

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01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 2: Anyway, if you want to get your kid a Walkman,

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Speaker 2: retrospect dot com r E t R O s P

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Speaker 2: s P E k T dot com.

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Speaker 1: Let's see.

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01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 2: Forrest writes in from twenty nine Palms. I'm moving to

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01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 2: Puerto Virta this July and wondering what to do about

1490
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 2: mobile phone coverage. I currently use Visible, but I've heard

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01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 2: T Mobile works best in Mexico. Should I switch to

1492
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 2: a US based T Mobile plan or get T Mobile

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01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 2: Mexico when I arrive Forrest, I think if you're moving there,

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01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 2: you have to get a plan that's based in Mexico.

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01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 2: You can't use a plan that's based here in the US.

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01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 2: I mean you could maybe for a while, but that's

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Speaker 2: not really the terms of the service. If you're using

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01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,799
Speaker 2: T Mobile, yeah, you can maybe roam there for a while,

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01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 2: but if as soon as they realize that you're like

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Speaker 2: not going back to the US, they're gonna either cancel

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01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 2: your plan or call you or something. So if you're

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01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 2: moving permanently, you got to get a local plan. So

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01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 2: whatever's good in Mexico. I don't even know what the

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01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 2: carriers are there, but that's what I go is, just

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01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: do some comparison. Once you get down there, I think

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01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 2: your plan will probably work to roam for a little bit,

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01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 2: but if you're staying there, you have to get a

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01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 2: plan from there. That's you know they reserve that right.

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01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 2: Let's see here, Diane writes in Everyone's writing in today

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Speaker 2: iPhone cleanup? Do you recommend any iPhone cleanup apps? No?

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01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,759
Speaker 1: I don't. Actually there's so many of them out there.

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01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: But the way the.

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01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:37,480
Speaker 2: iPhone is engineered, the operating system is not like Windows.

1514
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 2: You do not need cleanup apps. You don't need to

1515
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 2: clean up anything on the iPhone. iOS is not meant

1516
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 2: to be cleaned up. The only thing you can do

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01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 2: because here's the reason. Everything in iOS is sandboxed, which

1518
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: means no app can interapp interact or look at another

1519
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,480
Speaker 2: app's data. It's just I mean, yes, there are provisions

1520
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 2: for them to build that, but they can't. You can't

1521
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 2: go in and run a cleaning app and have it

1522
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 2: kind of like delete all the extra files and things

1523
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 2: like that.

1524
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: Like it just doesn't work that way.

1525
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 2: So the only thing you could do is like get

1526
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 2: rid of duplicate photos with an app, and for that,

1527
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: I like clean my phone. They will do that, but realistically,

1528
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 2: just go through your camera, just go through your list

1529
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 2: and just like get rid of duplicates yourself. I don't

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01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 2: recommend any iPhone cleanup apps. I don't think you need them.

1531
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 2: Let's see here, we've got Paula from Los Angeles says

1532
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 2: I the Galaxy nine Plus that I love. I want

1533
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 2: to upgrade, but want a phone most similar to the

1534
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 2: one I have functionality, functionally, what would you suggest, I'd

1535
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 2: suggest the phone I was just talking about the Galaxy

1536
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 2: S twenty five Edge. It's available. It's gonna be a

1537
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 2: little bit more expensive than the S nine plus. I

1538
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 2: don't know if they're even going to give you. Let's

1539
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 2: see how much you'd get for that, so it starts

1540
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 2: at eleven hundred dollars. But I think what's great about

1541
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 2: this is that you're a Samsung user. It's going to

1542
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: be a very easy transition. Clearly you've used this phone

1543
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 2: for a long time, and you could probably trade it in.

1544
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 2: Let's see how much you can trade it in. So Samsung,

1545
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 2: the S nine or the nine plus even go back

1546
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 2: that far. Let's see here, Oh, oh it doesn't. It

1547
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 2: goes back to the ten. So for the for the

1548
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 2: S ten plus, you'll get fifty five dollars. For any

1549
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 2: other Samsung, you'll get fifty bucks. So hey, I mean,

1550
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 2: I think that's better than nothing. If you don't need

1551
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 2: this phone, But they also have a lot of other

1552
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 2: upgrade deals and things like that. Oh, a lot of

1553
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 2: those might have changed now that the phone is available.

1554
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 2: But I'd say the S twenty five Edge. If you

1555
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 2: don't want something, if you don't want to spend something

1556
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 2: that's that expensive, I would just go with the Pixel

1557
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 2: nine A.

1558
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 1: That's what is it?

1559
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 2: Four hundred bucks, five hundred dollars and yeah, four ninety

1560
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 2: nine and that gives you really good camera, seven years

1561
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 2: of updates. But it's not gonna have that Samsung software

1562
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 2: that you're used to, so you may want to stick

1563
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 2: with a Samsung. If you're using Microsoft Authenticator, it is

1564
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,520
Speaker 2: getting rid of its password autofill.

1565
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:12,719
Speaker 1: It's going away.

1566
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 2: They're removing the password autofill feature from Microsoft Authenticator, So

1567
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 2: starting in June next month, you cannot save new passwords

1568
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 2: in the Authenticator app. In July, the feature is going

1569
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 2: away completely, and by August you won't even be able

1570
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 2: to access any saved passwords in the app. Now, this

1571
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 2: is different than your codes. Your one time codes will

1572
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 2: still remain no problem, but if you had any passwords

1573
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 2: saved in there, you will not be able to access them.

1574
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 1: Past August, but you can switch to.

1575
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:47,799
Speaker 2: Microsoft Edge for autofill, and it's not there by default.

1576
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 2: You do have to tap a button to turn it

1577
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 2: on and transfer those over, but it is easy if

1578
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 2: you have if you're going to use Edge, if you're

1579
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 2: going to use something else like a password manager, you

1580
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:02,799
Speaker 2: can export all of your passwords to a CSV file

1581
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 2: and move them over.

1582
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 1: But yes, you do have to do that.

1583
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 2: Microsoft says everything is synced, it's all in your account,

1584
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 2: but you have to give them permission to start using

1585
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 2: Edge for autofill versus what you're using. So if you're

1586
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 2: using Authenticator for passwords, Microsoft Authenticator specifically, you do need

1587
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 2: a plan to get your stuff out of there and

1588
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 2: to transfer it to something else. And Disney Plus just

1589
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 2: rolled out a new perks program. I'm not impressed, but

1590
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 2: you know, you might as well check it out and see.

1591
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 2: But it's it's a I don't even understan why they're

1592
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 2: doing this. It's got discounts on Adidas, fun Co and

1593
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: Walt Disney World hotels. I should just go to the

1594
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 2: website and see what they have, because it's I was

1595
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 2: not impressed. It's like I didn't really need any of

1596
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 2: the stuff that they put on there, but it was

1597
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 2: it's just random stuff.

1598
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: Dash Pass.

1599
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 2: You can get like six months of that Clear Super

1600
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 2: dual LINGO two months of that. My kids actually probably

1601
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 2: would like that. Uh, but yeah, these are this is

1602
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 2: what you get.

1603
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 1: Oh. You can also enter sweepstakes.

1604
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:11,839
Speaker 2: So they've got tickets to freak your Friday premiere Disney Cruise,

1605
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 2: but you do need an active Disney Plus subscription to enroll.

1606
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 2: You can check out your perks at Disney plus dot

1607
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 2: com slash perks. I mean, I don't know, I'm not

1608
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 2: I'm not sold on this. I don't understand it why

1609
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 2: they're doing this. I mean, I get it, they're just

1610
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 2: selling more stuff to you. I guess some are freebies,

1611
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,839
Speaker 2: but to me, like, come on, twenty percent off at Adidas,

1612
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 2: I don't know, is that a big deal. Maybe you

1613
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 2: can't get twenty percent off Adidas six months of dash Pass,

1614
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 2: I mean so many credit cards include that anyway, Three

1615
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 2: months of Clear, I mean.

1616
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: That's something you could easily get.

1617
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 2: I feel like anyway, if you want to see what

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01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 2: you got Disney Plus dot Com slash perks eighty eight

1619
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 2: rich one O one eight eight eight seven four two

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01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 2: four one zero one everything I mentioned is linked up

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01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 2: on the website rich on tech dot T. Coming up

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01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,560
Speaker 2: this hour, we're gonna talk to ed Bot, longtime journalist

1623
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 2: on all things Microsoft, plus more right here on rich

1624
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 2: on Tech. Still coming up, We've got ed Bot, a

1625
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 2: longtime tech journalist, expert on all things Microsoft. He's gonna

1626
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 2: guide us through some of the things that's happening with

1627
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,480
Speaker 2: Windows right now. You know, you've got this big transition

1628
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 2: to Windows eleven. We've got end of life support for

1629
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 2: lots of these apps on there, and oh my gosh,

1630
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: there's just so much to ask. I hope we'll get

1631
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 2: through a lot of it, and then later we've got

1632
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 2: the feedback. These are all the email comments and things

1633
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 2: that you send in, so if you want to get

1634
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,719
Speaker 2: those in now, well you've already been doing it. Everyone's

1635
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 2: emailing today for some reason. Julie writes in Hey, rich

1636
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 2: your show is amazing. I'm on my own with any

1637
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 2: tech and it's difficult. Recently, I got rid of TV

1638
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 2: and purchased the YouTube TV app through Frontier. I then

1639
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 2: bought the Roku Ultra, which was recommended. We had a

1640
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 2: power outage from our electric company and somehow I lost

1641
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 2: the YouTube TV app I've tried everything I can think of,

1642
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 2: but can't seem to get it back. Any suggestions would

1643
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 2: be appreciated. Thank you, Julie. Julie, how did a power

1644
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 2: outage get rid of this app? Is so strange, But basically,

1645
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 2: as I understand it, the YouTube app is just an

1646
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 2: app on your Roku So if it somehow got deleted

1647
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 2: in that power outage, which I've got to figure out

1648
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 2: how that happened, you can just reinstall it. And so

1649
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 2: if you go, you can do this a couple ways.

1650
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 2: If you go to the Roku store on your streaming

1651
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 2: device just search YouTube TV, or you can do it

1652
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 2: even from the mobile app or the website. You can

1653
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 2: go to channelstore dot Roku dot com, you log in,

1654
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 2: go to YouTube and press install and that will send

1655
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 2: it to your TV. Or if you have the Roku

1656
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 2: mobile app, you can do that as well. So a

1657
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 2: couple of ways to do that. But yeah, I mean

1658
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 2: from your device, just go to the store like press home,

1659
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 2: select store and then search for the app. That's the

1660
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 2: way I would do it, but if you want to

1661
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 2: do it for mobile app, but I would just do

1662
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 2: it right from the ultra But hopefully you get it

1663
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 2: back I know it was it like I've never heard

1664
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 2: of a something zapp in it. Okay, let's see here.

1665
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 2: Amazon this week launched a new, budget friendly, blank video doorbell.

1666
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 2: It's very confusing with Amazon because they've got Blink, which

1667
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 2: they purchased for I don't know, ungodly sums of money,

1668
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 2: and then they also purchase Ring and they both do

1669
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:46,839
Speaker 2: very similar things. But I guess the difference is Blink

1670
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 2: is much more interested in sort of The technology that

1671
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 2: they brought to the table was this really long battery life.

1672
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 2: And you know the cameras they have, some of them

1673
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 2: work on like two years or a year of just

1674
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 2: double A batteries. And so this new Blink video doorbell

1675
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 2: is sixty bucks. Three double A batteries give you up

1676
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 2: to two years of power. So if you want a

1677
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: video doorbell without charging it every couple of months like

1678
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 2: I have to do, you could just get this don't

1679
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 2: have to worry about replacing the batteries for two years.

1680
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 2: The improvements include a one hundred and fifty degree field

1681
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: of view, so you're gonna get a wider field of view,

1682
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 2: night vision, head to toe view, and person detection.

1683
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing.

1684
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 2: This doorbell does require a separate sink module, so you

1685
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 2: do need to get that, which I guess you can

1686
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 2: use your other cameras. I don't have any Blink cameras,

1687
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 2: nor have I ever tested them, actually, so I really

1688
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 2: should to see how these things work. I've interviewed people

1689
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 2: from the company, but I never really tried them out.

1690
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 2: The bundle is seventy dollars, so keep in mind unless

1691
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 2: you already have that sink module, you have to buy

1692
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 2: that with the doorbell, and then if you want local

1693
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 2: storage that base that coursing module does not give you

1694
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 2: local storage, so if you want local storage, like to

1695
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 2: put a little SD card, you have to get the

1696
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 2: Sink Module two or the Sink Module XR. Otherwise, if

1697
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 2: you get this little doorbell, you got to pay for Cloud,

1698
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 2: which is three dollars a month.

1699
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,440
Speaker 1: Also keep in mind is limited to the two point.

1700
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: Four gigahertz Wi Fi thirty second clips and push to

1701
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 2: talk audio only, so no back and forth. It's like

1702
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 2: kind of more like a walkie talkie style. So again,

1703
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 2: you get what you pay for. These things are inexpensive,

1704
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 2: but you're not getting the most full featured video doorbell

1705
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 2: out there like you would get from ring. Assume it

1706
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 2: in Orange County, Orange, California.

1707
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 1: You're on with Rich.

1708
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 7: Hello Raach, Hi, Hey Rich, Sorry, let me get you

1709
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:46,719
Speaker 7: off speakable fish.

1710
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: Okay, well wait do we have the whole music?

1711
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1712
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 7: Hey Rich, Rich, Yes, you know, love your show.

1713
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: Thank you well.

1714
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 7: I I have at least four questions, maybe one or

1715
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 7: two if you could answer a question. One is you know,

1716
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 7: whenever I go, you know, then they make me, you know,

1717
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 7: use a strong password on the website. Yes, And I

1718
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 7: was just wondering whether it pownts first, because sometimes I

1719
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:17,799
Speaker 7: use my laptop, sometimes I use my phone, So how.

1720
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 3: Does that work?

1721
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 2: It does, so whatever password manager you're using will sync

1722
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 2: in the background between your different devices. So I would

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01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 2: recommend a good cross platform password manager like Bitwarden, I

1724
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 2: think does a great job. You basically would install it

1725
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 2: on your browser and you would install it on your phone,

1726
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 2: and in the background, it would just sink those So

1727
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 2: once you create a password on your browser, it would

1728
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 2: make its way to your phone the next time you

1729
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 2: go to log into that website on your phone. And

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01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 2: they all pretty much work that way because that's just

1731
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 2: kind of the nature of how they work.

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01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 1: So the only thing I've noticed is.

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01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:58,640
Speaker 2: The the quality of the sync. Sometimes, like you know,

1734
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,919
Speaker 2: it may not be a media because, especially with the iPhone,

1735
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 2: apps are not doing a lot in the background, and

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01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 2: so if you haven't sort of like called up your

1737
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 2: password manager app in a while, it may not be

1738
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 2: fully up to date with the entire sink of every

1739
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 2: password that you just created like a second ago on

1740
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 2: your computer. So that's the only thing I've sort of

1741
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 2: run into when it comes to the passwords. But yeah,

1742
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 2: most of the time, if you're creating a strong password,

1743
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 2: the password manager will not only let's say you're signing

1744
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 2: up for a new website, the password manager will notice

1745
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 2: that and it will immediately spring into action and suggest

1746
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 2: a password and then save that password after you enter it.

1747
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 1: So and then again it will be available across all

1748
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 1: your devices.

1749
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 2: But again, when you're looking for a password manager, look

1750
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 2: for one that works on all the devices that you're using.

1751
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 2: Most of them do, with the exception of course, of

1752
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 2: the Apple on is not going to have for Android.

1753
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 1: The Apple passwords. Good question.

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01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 2: Sorry, we can get to all of them, but you

1755
01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 2: know we've got other shows to do, so coming up next,

1756
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 2: ed Bough Talk All Things Microsoft. Ed bo is a

1757
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 2: longtime tech journalist and expert on all things Microsoft. He's

1758
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 2: joining me now to talk about some of the pressing

1759
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 2: issues in the Microsoft community.

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01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 3: Ed.

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01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining me today.

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01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 8: Hey, it's great to be here.

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01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 3: Rich.

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01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: So what is the latest?

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01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 2: I mean, we've got this big transition to Windows eleven,

1766
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 2: We've got support for Windows ten ending in October this year.

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01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: What do people need to know about this?

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01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 10: So, the biggest issue is compatibility check that Windows eleven

1769
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 10: does before it will allow you to upgrade a PC

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01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 10: from Windows ten. And it goes in and it checks

1771
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 10: about a half a dozen things, but there's two that

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01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 10: really matter. One is the CPU in the system, and

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01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 10: the second one is a thing called a Trusted Platform

1774
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 10: Module or a TPM that's an encryption chip. And there's

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01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 10: a list of compatible CPUs, and basically, any system that

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01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 10: was built twenty nineteen or later qualifies for an upgrade

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01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 10: to Windows eleven. Anyone that was built earlier than that

1778
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 10: is probably going to fail the compatibility test. And then

1779
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 10: there are also a number of PCs that are newer

1780
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 10: than twenty nineteen that will still fail the test because

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01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 10: they've been configured using the kind of settings that hobbyists

1782
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 10: typically do a legacy BIOS and turning off secure boot

1783
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 10: and not enabling the TPM so things like that. So

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01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 10: there's a pretty big population, hundreds of millions of PCs

1785
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:50,759
Speaker 10: that are going to be told by Microsoft in October, sorry,

1786
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 10: you're not going to get any more security updates for

1787
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 10: Windows ten and you can't upgrade to Windows eleven.

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01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 1: Wow.

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01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 2: So what's the chance that this actually happens on time?

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01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 2: Were my not going to say okay, you can find

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01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 2: We'll give you another six months or a year. Now

1792
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: I've heard there's like a program that you can sign

1793
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 2: up for an extra year, two or three if you're

1794
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 2: a business. Is that coming to play?

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01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 8: Right?

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01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 10: So, uh, there's a one hundred percent chance this is

1797
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 10: going to go down exactly as it's been announced.

1798
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 8: Uh for years.

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01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 10: But there are there are basically five things that people

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01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 10: can do to get past this one. The thing that

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01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 10: Microsoft wants them to do, of course, is to go

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01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 10: out and buy a new PC and recycle their old

1803
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 10: one into parts.

1804
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 2: Of course, a copilot PC, you know with that snap

1805
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,839
Speaker 2: Dragon chip inside exactly exactly.

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01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 10: The second thing they can do is, as you mentioned,

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01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 10: they can pay for updates. Now, businesses and educational institutions

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01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 10: can pay for up to three years. For businesses, that'll

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01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 10: cost a lot. For educational institutions, it'll cost next to

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01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 10: nothing a dollar per pc per year for the first year,

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01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 10: and then two dollars for the second year, and then

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01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 10: four dollars for the third year. But consumers can pay

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01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 10: thirty dollars a month if they want to wait a

1814
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 10: month or a year.

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01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 1: Thirty dollars a month. A month, Oh my gosh, that's going.

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01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 10: To Yeah, I should I should double check that because

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01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 10: I haven't looked at it lately. But yeah, it's not

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01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 10: it's not cheap, and frankly, I don't think it's an

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01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 10: option for most people unless you have a business that

1820
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 10: you're running, a small business that you're running, and you

1821
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 10: really need to do that, and you're not eligible to

1822
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 10: go through the standard business you know, the standard business

1823
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 10: program of updates that they have. You know, you need

1824
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 10: to be an enterprise customer to do that kind of thing.

1825
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 10: But I don't think most people are going to pay

1826
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 10: for updates. The third thing people can do is simply

1827
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:59,520
Speaker 10: ignore this and you know, use antivirus.

1828
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 8: Use Uh.

1829
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 10: There's a program called zero Patch, a service that you

1830
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 10: can subscribe to that's about two.

1831
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:07,799
Speaker 8: Dollars a month.

1832
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 10: And they'll take care of patching any vulnerabilities that are

1833
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 10: discovered in Windows ten and they're going to do.

1834
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:16,799
Speaker 8: That for years.

1835
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 1: And what they're an update, they'll give you what they'll.

1836
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 10: Give you what they give you what they call micro patches,

1837
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 10: where they actually literally go in and they patch the

1838
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 10: code on your PC to UH to prevent that particular

1839
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 10: vulnerability from executing. It's a you know, it's a pretty

1840
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:40,599
Speaker 10: fascinating concept and and I think it's I think it's

1841
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 10: legitimate for someone who doesn't want to pay Microsoft a

1842
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 10: lot of money for updates, but also doesn't want to

1843
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:47,879
Speaker 10: go completely without updates.

1844
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 8: It's a it's a good middle ground.

1845
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm looking at the thirty dollars figure, and

1846
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 2: it looks like it seems to be for individual home users.

1847
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 2: It says a one year ESU program, which is what

1848
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 2: end of extended security updates.

1849
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 8: Extended security updates.

1850
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 1: It looks like it is thirty dollars for one year,

1851
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 1: which kind of makes okay.

1852
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 10: Thirty dollars per year, right, I think it's I think

1853
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 10: it's like thirty dollars a month for the business plan,

1854
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 10: and that one doubles in the second year, and then

1855
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 10: doubles in the third year. So the third year, it's

1856
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:20,600
Speaker 10: like by the third year year up to thirty or

1857
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 10: forty dollars.

1858
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 8: And I think it's I think it.

1859
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 10: Works out to something like four hundred and twenty dollars

1860
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:28,679
Speaker 10: per PC for a business over the course of three years,

1861
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 10: which is you know, you could you could practically buy

1862
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 10: a new PC.

1863
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 1: Well, and that's the thing.

1864
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 2: But I mean, I understand the look, I mean, number one,

1865
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 2: in these companies, if you're running like some sort of

1866
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 2: software and you don't want it to break or something,

1867
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 2: you just don't want to mess with what you've got right,

1868
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 2: everything's working, So I understand why you made want to

1869
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 2: extend that. But my other thing is if Microsoft's going

1870
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 2: to be making these updates anyway, I mean, why do

1871
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 2: they want people to switch to Windows eleven? Is it

1872
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 2: just because it's like the time has come?

1873
01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 10: There's well, not to get two technical about it, but

1874
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 10: in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, there were some very

1875
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 10: significant security flaws that were discovered in Intel's chip lines.

1876
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 10: Those are the things that power all those hundreds of

1877
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:19,599
Speaker 10: millions of older PCs, and so those those vulnerabilities, specter

1878
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 10: and meltdown they were called, and they were a very

1879
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 10: very big deal. And so basically they represent kind of

1880
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 10: a dividing line between an old, insecure generation of Intel

1881
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 10: based Windows PCs and the newer ones that have taken

1882
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 10: care of those issues. And so Microsoft, you know, basically decided,

1883
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 10: although they've never come out and said this publicly, but

1884
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 10: they basically decided to draw that line right there and

1885
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 10: say we're this is where we're going to begin support

1886
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 10: for this. God now, now there is a thing. However,

1887
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,839
Speaker 10: I've written about this. It's one of the most popular

1888
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 10: articles that I've ever written, and I.

1889
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 8: Continue I continue to get email from people.

1890
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 10: You if if you have a PC that runs that

1891
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:13,759
Speaker 10: successfully runs Windows ten, you can force it to upgrade

1892
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 10: to Windows eleven.

1893
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 8: You can bypassibility checks.

1894
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 1: Okay, how do we do this? Should we find the article?

1895
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, you could find that article.

1896
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 1: Will it be as secure? Though?

1897
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 2: That's the thing, like will your computer be because once

1898
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 2: you're in Windows eleven, will it be just as secure

1899
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 2: as another computer running Windows eleven?

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01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 10: If you force yeah, you know, the difference will be

1901
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 10: ninety nine point eight versus ninety nine point nine percent secure.

1902
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 10: You know, you're you're not you're not in any danger.

1903
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 10: Uh you know, you're you're running the exact same Windows

1904
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:49,720
Speaker 10: eleven that's running on on a newer PC. All you're

1905
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:54,759
Speaker 10: doing is you're bypassing the technical compatibility checks. But Windows

1906
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 10: ten and Windows eleven are for for all intents and purposes.

1907
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 10: Windows eleve even is a feature update two uh uh

1908
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 10: to Windows ten with some security to faults turned on

1909
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:11,719
Speaker 10: and uh, you know, and with a slightly tweaked interface

1910
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 10: and something.

1911
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:14,759
Speaker 8: But it's very very similar. They're you know, they're they're.

1912
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 10: Nearly uh that it's more of like additional features versus

1913
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 10: exactly a big gange exactly exactly. You know, they could

1914
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 10: easily have called Windows eleven, you know, Windows ten point five.

1915
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:29,520
Speaker 2: Oh and the article has how to upgrade your incompatible

1916
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 2: Windows ten PC to Windows eleven two free options on

1917
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 2: zd net dot com.

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01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 1: And real quick before we go, I've got like a

1919
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:36,639
Speaker 1: minute left.

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01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 2: You wrote an article last year, your your your your

1921
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 2: columns are the gift that keeps on giving, and you

1922
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 2: wrote about how you said, basically, people modern PCs don't

1923
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 2: need antivirus. Can you just explain real quick what your

1924
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 2: thought is behind that?

1925
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 10: Well, they don't need third part you don't need to

1926
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 10: pay for anti virus, and you don't need to download

1927
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 10: a third party antivirus program. There is a capability built

1928
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 10: into Windows ten and Windows eleven called Windows Defender Windows

1929
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 10: Defender Anti Virus, and it used to be kind of

1930
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 10: an also ran, but these days it ass every single

1931
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 10: test that the independent labs do and it's not just

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01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 10: good enough, it's it's it's perfectly acceptable. And the only

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01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:28,680
Speaker 10: thing you're going to get by by paying.

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01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 8: For a third party program is more up sells.

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01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 2: Okay, so look it up under I guess Windows Security.

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01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 2: Windows Defender is the program that actually does it. If

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01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 2: you've got that on your computer, make sure it's up

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Speaker 2: to date, and Ed says it's gonna be okay, ed Bot,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much for joining me today. Really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: The website Ed bought. Let's see what which website you

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Speaker 2: want me to give out. You've got a couple of them.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, let's go ahead and do. If you go to ZDNet.

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Speaker 10: Dot com, slash blog, slash bot, that should get you there.

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Speaker 10: But you know you can put it in the show notes.

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Speaker 10: But ZDNet dot com is where I do most of

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Speaker 10: my publishing these days.

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Speaker 2: All right, Wealth of Information, great interview, Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for the information, and get those PCs upgraded or

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Speaker 2: figure out it's coming soon October. All right, coming up next,

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Speaker 2: we are going to open up the feedbag that's coming

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Speaker 2: up right here on rich on Tech, and if you

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Speaker 2: need the link to Ed's columns, I'll put it right

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Speaker 2: on the website rich on Tech dot TV.

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Speaker 1: Back after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 2: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology. The

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Speaker 2: feedbag is just overflowing this week, so we're going to

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Speaker 2: get right into it so I can get through as

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Speaker 2: many of your emails as possible. Alan from San Diego says,

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Speaker 2: I listened to your segment with Dave Citron and his

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Speaker 2: explanation of what personal information Google collects on us. It

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Speaker 2: was very misleading. He made us sound like they collect

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Speaker 2: very little and that we are in full control. I

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Speaker 2: asked Gemini, Well Google collects it's a lot. I also

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Speaker 2: asked how to control that data for the average user.

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Speaker 2: Finding and adjusting those settings is very difficult and some

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Speaker 2: things just can't be controlled. As you said, when the

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Speaker 2: app is free, we are the product that couldn't be

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Speaker 2: more true than with Gemini. I felt like there wasn't

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Speaker 2: enough discussion about the loss of privacy during your excitement

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Speaker 2: over the product. Okay, it sounds like you might be

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Speaker 2: talking about Google or Gemini. Sounds like you're talking about

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Speaker 2: about Gemini.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, all of these chatbots are collecting data. If you're

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Speaker 2: using them, they are collecting data. Google says, conversations, uploaded files, feedback,

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Speaker 2: things are kept for anywhere from auto delete after eighteen

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Speaker 2: months even with the if you turn that feature off.

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Speaker 2: Conversations are saved for up to seventy two hours to

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Speaker 2: provide the service and processed feedback, and some conversations are

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Speaker 2: reviewed by human reviewers and retained up to three years.

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Speaker 2: So look, yes, if you're using one of these chatbots,

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Speaker 2: what you say to it is going to be seen,

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Speaker 2: or it could have the potential to be seen. Oh

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Speaker 2: more criticism of the AI stuff rich I caught the

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Speaker 2: tail end of your interview with the Google AI rep.

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Speaker 2: It reminded me of two kids gushing over a new toy.

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Speaker 2: AI isn't a harmless voice assistant. It's serious and potentially dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Quantum computing is changing everything. Garbage in, garbage out used

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Speaker 2: to apply but not anymore. Google, in my opinion, is

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Speaker 2: inordinately evil. Most people don't realize it. They've strayed far

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Speaker 2: from don't be evil. Please, no more Google reps. They

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Speaker 2: don't deserve airtime. Wow, here's the thing. All that is

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Speaker 2: fine and dandy until you use Google Gemini for what

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Speaker 2: I did last night with the sprinklers, and it's incredible.

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Speaker 2: So yes, there's always a good side to things and

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Speaker 2: a bad side. Brian writes it on Instagram, Rich I

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Speaker 2: love notebook LM. Thanks for putting me into it. I

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Speaker 2: use it for my law work, but my guilty pleasure

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Speaker 2: is feeding it the detailed notes I take on TV

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Speaker 2: shows and movies. The results are mind blowing. I uploaded

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Speaker 2: a couple pages of notes on the plot of Twin Peaks,

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Speaker 2: very Lynchian, very weird, and it turned my dry recap

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Speaker 2: into a podcast that was more compelling than most of

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Speaker 2: the real person twin Peaks podcasts than iTunes ouch. It

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Speaker 2: understands nuanced plot holes, mysteries, and explained what's explained and

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Speaker 2: what's not. This feels empowering, not scary.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Lots of thoughts about AI this week.

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Speaker 2: Nick writes in another Fear AI could become too powerful,

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Speaker 2: even while still dumber than us. We already struggle to

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Speaker 2: stop humans from making bad decisions. What happens when flawed

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Speaker 2: AI is driving decisions at scale with large language models,

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Speaker 2: hallucinations might not be caught until it's too late.

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Speaker 1: Best Nick, Wow, let's see here.

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Speaker 2: Jojo writes in A friend of mine was scammed on

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Speaker 2: WhatsApp by someone posing as a longtime friend. The message

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Speaker 2: asked him to zell my to someone else because she

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Speaker 2: had hit her monthly limit. Since he trusted her, he

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Speaker 2: sent the money, only to learn her account had been compromised.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a new one.

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Speaker 2: The scammers had access to her entire contact list, and

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Speaker 2: at least four others were tricked the same way. Be

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Speaker 2: careful if someone's asking you to sell someone else money

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Speaker 2: or venmo, double check, call them or FaceTime them directly.

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Speaker 1: That is that's a big one.

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Speaker 2: Jess from California rites in, My mom in New Hampshire

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Speaker 2: has never been into tech.

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Speaker 1: No phone, no email, no internet.

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Speaker 2: But I got her a grand Pad from Consumer Cellular

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Speaker 2: and now we've been video calling and sharing photos for

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Speaker 2: over seven years.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow.

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Speaker 2: The best part I manage it remotely as the account admin.

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Speaker 2: I can update settings for my phone, send her photos,

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Speaker 2: and even pipe in my Facebook post so she doesn't

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Speaker 2: have to deal with the actual site. It's secure, easy

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Speaker 2: for her to use, and gives us a way to

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Speaker 2: stay closed despite the distance. When one device stopped working,

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Speaker 2: they sent a replacement right away, no hassle. Every person

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Speaker 2: we've dealt with has been kind, patient and helpful. I'm

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Speaker 2: just a fan who hopes more people find out about

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Speaker 2: this great option for older family members. Yeah, the grandpad

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Speaker 2: is I actually interviewed the CEO or the founder at cs.

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Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to ever air that, but

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Speaker 2: it is interesting and we probably should do a little

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Speaker 2: bit more on that.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Finally, Germo from Los Angeles writes, and I've been trying

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Speaker 2: out the text ai tool. It seems okay, but it

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Speaker 2: didn't answer all my questions. I asked for tequila recommendations

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Speaker 2: and it responded I can't help with that. I asked

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Speaker 2: chat GBT the same thing, and it gave me a

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Speaker 2: full list. Not that I drink, but the subject came up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what thank you, Germo.

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Speaker 2: Julie writes in I listened to your podcasts each morning

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Speaker 2: as I get ready for work and sometimes in the

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Speaker 2: car if I'm driving.

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Speaker 1: I have learned a lot and take notes on things

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Speaker 1: you talk about. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Julie Mindy writes in I started listening about a month ago.

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Speaker 2: Very useful, understandable, and you really go into depth with

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Speaker 2: everyone who calls in. I got tired of politics, but

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Speaker 2: tech always fascinates me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, thank you, Mindy.

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Speaker 2: And Loretta writes in I'm back after almost three weeks

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Speaker 2: in Egypt. I really missed your show, your texts, your newsletters.

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Speaker 2: I've been busy catching up. You're the only one I

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Speaker 2: can truly rely on for tech info, and you explain

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Speaker 2: it in a way even I can understand.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Loretta. I love that.

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Speaker 2: Three weeks in Egypt. Wow, that's a nice vacation. All right,

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Speaker 2: that's gonna do it for this show. Rich on Tech

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