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Speaker 2: New poll question, why don't we clean up the first
Speaker 2: two hours and then we'll dive into the final hour.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, d And.
Speaker 4: How comfortable are you approaching a celebrity? Fifty seven percent
Speaker 4: say much trepidation? Okay, best picture of the twenty ten's
Speaker 4: of Justin Verlander, Max Scherzer, Clayton Kershaw or other your guy,
Speaker 4: Clayton Kershaw is leading that at forty seven percent, okay.
Speaker 4: And then what's more impressive? David Well's drunk perfect game
Speaker 4: with Doc Elis is ZLSD now hitter. Sixty seven percent
Speaker 4: say David Well's perfect game. I'm going to probably disagree
Speaker 4: with that, but both impressive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Doc Yellis, that was nineteen seventy, I believe with
Speaker 2: the Pirates, and I think it was against the Cincinnati Reds.
Speaker 3: Maybe.
Speaker 2: By the way, we don't know where Lebron is going.
Speaker 2: What is really interesting for me is the number of
Speaker 2: insiders who don't know what's going on, and they're even
Speaker 2: careful of trying to project couch this a little bit like, hey,
Speaker 2: not quite sure, you know, the indications could be I'm
Speaker 2: hearing nobody's got it nailed down. It still feels like Cleveland.
Speaker 2: It's felt like Cleveland even since Lebron made the announcement.
Speaker 2: Before he made the announcement, I thought if he left,
Speaker 2: it would be Cleveland. NBA title odds the Spurs and Thunder,
Speaker 2: according to DraftKings the two best odds, and then it
Speaker 2: drops down drastically to the Knicks. So Spurs and Thunder
Speaker 2: plus two seventy. By the way, gambling podcast Dan Patrick
Speaker 2: takes a gamble.
Speaker 3: We'll have that for you after the show.
Speaker 2: Then it goes to the Knicks at plus eight fifty,
Speaker 2: the Celtics plus thirteen hundred, the seventy six Ers who
Speaker 2: just got Jalen Brown at plus two thousand, Cavaliers plus
Speaker 2: twenty five hundred. The Raptors have the same odds as
Speaker 2: the Cavaliers do plus twenty five hundred. They heat twenty
Speaker 2: five hundred Pistons, twenty five hundred Nuggets plus twenty five
Speaker 2: hundred Timberwolves plus twenty five hundred. I don't know what
Speaker 2: Lebron going to the Cavaliers will do to that number,
Speaker 2: but you would think it would probably bring the Cavaliers
Speaker 2: up to where the seventy six ers are at plus
Speaker 2: two thousand.
Speaker 4: Yes, Dyling, it is crazy that the Spurs and Thunder
Speaker 4: are both plus two seventy to win the title. If
Speaker 4: you think about that from like a value standpoint, that's awful.
Speaker 4: And given that there's been what eight non repeating champions
Speaker 4: the last eight years, it's like that seems I don't know,
Speaker 4: the Jews hasn't worth the squeeze there.
Speaker 3: Well, the Celtics.
Speaker 2: That's what confuses me, because the Celtics aren't better today
Speaker 2: than they were a couple of weeks ago. The seventy
Speaker 2: six ers are in the seventy six ers knocked out
Speaker 2: the Celtics or in the playoffs here, I would think
Speaker 2: that they would be. They'd have better odds if you
Speaker 2: give me that back court and you give me Jalen Brown. Okay,
Speaker 2: I like my chances there, and I can get a
Speaker 2: Joe ellenb that might be on a minutes restriction there,
Speaker 2: But the Cavaliers get Lebron, it's probably gonna be bumped
Speaker 2: up to plus two thousand. But the Knicks, they're still
Speaker 2: the favorites in the East, with the Celtics, seventy six Ers,
Speaker 2: Cavaliers and the Raptors. After that, all right, we'll get
Speaker 2: some phone calls here. I just noticed this, the top
Speaker 2: fifteen payrolls in baseball. Out of the top fifteen, how
Speaker 2: many have a winning record?
Speaker 3: If you said five, you would be correct. Right now.
Speaker 3: You've got Tigers under five hundred.
Speaker 2: You got Astros under five hundred, you got Blue Jays
Speaker 2: under five hundred.
Speaker 3: You got the Mets.
Speaker 2: Yay, the Mets. They're first in something. They're thirty nine
Speaker 2: and fifty four. But five teams with a winning record
Speaker 2: so far. Justin Verlander announced he's going to retire at
Speaker 2: the end of the season, and you know, you look back.
Speaker 2: He won an MVP in twenty eleven. Kershaw won one
Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen. I don't think you'll have a starting
Speaker 2: pitcher be an MVP ever, or at least in our
Speaker 2: life time, unless baseball changes, because I don't know, well,
Speaker 2: I don't know if baseball changes and we go back
Speaker 2: to valuing the starting pitcher. But sure's her Hall of
Speaker 2: famer Verlander. Oh Tani is going to be a Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer, but he's that's not based off just pitching.
Speaker 3: Is Chris Saale a Hall of Famer? Maybe?
Speaker 2: Uh Eraaldis Chapman. I brought up because he's an eight
Speaker 2: time All Star. Now, I'm sure the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: with everything that's happened off the field with Eraaldist Chapman
Speaker 2: would probably hold him out best they could. But he
Speaker 2: has the most strikeouts for a reliever in baseball history.
Speaker 4: Yes, Dylan, yeah, remember when he I think he was
Speaker 4: the first guy to throw one oh five too, And
Speaker 4: now that's just like.
Speaker 2: Eh, whatever, Well, still one oh five is still one
Speaker 2: o five. There's only four or five guys who've gone
Speaker 2: one oh five. I just don't know the physics of this,
Speaker 2: Like how fast can you throw?
Speaker 3: It's like the golf ball.
Speaker 2: You know, they've created leverage with the ground, so they
Speaker 2: use the ground and a lot of times these guys
Speaker 2: one foot is completely off the ground when they hit.
Speaker 2: Rory's mastered this, justin Thomas. You know, these great golfers
Speaker 2: have mastered this. I don't know if pitching we like,
Speaker 2: can we go to one oh seven?
Speaker 3: One oh eight?
Speaker 2: And what is it that's going to get you there?
Speaker 2: You know they you know, the different workout regimens. They
Speaker 2: they've studied the body, the release point, legs, using the ground,
Speaker 2: same thing. But I don't know how fast is going
Speaker 2: to be too fast for Major League baseball, Yeah, Daling, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 4: It's interesting to think about like the true limitations of
Speaker 4: like the human body, and like how does that what
Speaker 4: makes that evolve over time? Is it like increases in
Speaker 4: medicine or like you know, recovery and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: or is it just people are straight up just getting
Speaker 4: stronger faster over time.
Speaker 2: Well, it's like the one hundred meter dash, and I
Speaker 2: remember when I watched there was an Olympian who had
Speaker 2: such an increase in their time, and don't you talk
Speaker 2: to sprinters and they say, that's not possible, And of
Speaker 2: course it wasn't possible because we found out that they cheated.
Speaker 2: But you know, you're still pushing the body, Like how
Speaker 2: fast can somebody run? Remember the four minute mile? Now
Speaker 2: you know you're three forty nine or whatever?
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: Running marathons, Like if you ran over two hours, right, man, Okay,
Speaker 2: you're flying Now we're approaching under two hours for a marathon.
Speaker 2: The one hundred meter dash, is somebody going to approach
Speaker 2: Usain Bolt? Nobody's done that yet. I don't know if
Speaker 2: Lyles will be able to get there, but there are
Speaker 2: just certain things where you go how far can you
Speaker 2: push this, Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 5: I found a few different pitching studies and it's interesting.
Speaker 5: I found one from the early nineties done by Harvard
Speaker 5: and they said they projected out over the next twenty
Speaker 5: five five years and they said the hardest someone could
Speaker 5: throw based on evolution medicine one hundred and five, one
Speaker 5: hundred and six, and this was printed in the early nineties.
Speaker 5: I found one from twenty twenty four and they've got
Speaker 5: it at one eleven.
Speaker 3: They think in our lifetime.
Speaker 5: They said, like they're using the next fifty years as
Speaker 5: a benchmark. They think one to eleven would be the
Speaker 5: max because evolution doesn't move that fast. They're looking at diet, exercise.
Speaker 5: And you mentioned Tommy John that the Tommy John surgery
Speaker 5: could get so good that they can improve the ligament
Speaker 5: for the back half of your career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I wonder as we get towards AI
Speaker 2: and you're going to replace a ligament, and can you
Speaker 2: replace it with a stronger ligament, more durable ligament, you know,
Speaker 2: better than the original?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dylan, Yeah, Well, if there's a twelve year old
Speaker 4: who throws eighty on a Little League man, that's like
Speaker 4: one eleven too. But there's the it's I feel like
Speaker 4: it's like with the speed thing, right, It's like can
Speaker 4: you make yourself It feels like one of those things
Speaker 4: where it's like that's just how fast you are, Like
Speaker 4: can you make yourself faster? Yeah, like just by getting strong,
Speaker 4: like lifting, and.
Speaker 2: A lot of it is form. Yeah, that you need
Speaker 2: to take advantage of your form. And you know these
Speaker 2: guys who use their lower bodies, you know, that's that's
Speaker 2: where you get all that power from Matt in Ohio, Hi, Matt,
Speaker 2: what do you have for me?
Speaker 6: Good morning? On the Tommy John surgery. I think a
Speaker 6: lot of this just starts with these kids. All they
Speaker 6: do is play ball, especially with AAU and with summer ball.
Speaker 6: I know leagues have played eighty games for twelve year olds.
Speaker 6: Another thing is I was watching a U eleven softball
Speaker 6: girls game. It's still through one hundred and thirty five pitches.
Speaker 6: Then the last thing, I ran into a person that said,
Speaker 6: I've got a five year old just playing soccer and
Speaker 6: I got to get her of the camp because I
Speaker 6: don't want her to get behind.
Speaker 2: It's just oh yeah, I mean the to get into
Speaker 2: the system, AAU system, travel squads it is, and I
Speaker 2: would tell parents, diversify. Don't let them play just one sport.
Speaker 2: Learn how to play other sports. Maybe it's the individual sport.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's golf, Maybe it's soccer, or maybe it's a
Speaker 2: softball you're gonna play and you haven't played before you're
Speaker 2: normally a basketball player. Maybe it's tennis, whatever it is,
Speaker 2: diversify because you've got to learn how to compete in
Speaker 2: a different way. Sometimes it's by yourself and you don't
Speaker 2: lean on a team, or it's with a team and
Speaker 2: you get that.
Speaker 3: Feeling of what it's all about.
Speaker 2: But to get in and get with these travel teams,
Speaker 2: and it's expensive for parents and it is time consuming.
Speaker 2: Thank God, my kids weren't good at sports, so we
Speaker 2: didn't have to travel. We acted like we were, you know,
Speaker 2: really rooting for them to be able to get on
Speaker 2: a travel squad, and they never did. My wife and
Speaker 2: I privately were like, thank god, Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 4: The soccer thing, in like the barriers to entry that
Speaker 4: they've created is kind of even crazier to me because
Speaker 4: it's like from an equipment and like facility standpoint, you
Speaker 4: don't need a lot like you know, paraclets, shine guards, whatever.
Speaker 4: But it's like the hockey's and lacrosses of the world
Speaker 4: where it's like you've got all this gear, nice time
Speaker 4: and stuff that makes like it's inherently prices people out.
Speaker 4: But soccer as a sport should be one of the
Speaker 4: more inclusive ones just based on them.
Speaker 2: Well, same thing with basketball, Yeah, you know, you just
Speaker 2: need a hoop in a ball. But as Kevin Fraser
Speaker 2: from Entertainment Tonight, he came in, he's on fire and
Speaker 2: his son is a soccer player, and he's just talking
Speaker 2: about the system is wrong with USA that you got
Speaker 2: to get into these academies, you got to pay to
Speaker 2: get into these academies. They own you when they get
Speaker 2: into these academies. The best players aren't going into the
Speaker 2: academies and therefore we don't put the best product on
Speaker 2: the field. And he said that's the problem with USA soccer,
Speaker 2: and I you know, Kevin was very passionate about it.
Speaker 3: He wanted to jump on.
Speaker 2: He walked in, he was like, I got a rail
Speaker 2: on Alexi Lawllas.
Speaker 3: I'm like, come on.
Speaker 2: He didn't get the outlet on Entertainment Tonight there, and
Speaker 2: you know, he was very passionate about this. But he said,
Speaker 2: we're not going to get better, like it's the same result. Hey,
Speaker 2: you got to the knockout round. We get to the
Speaker 2: knockout round and then we get knocked out. You know
Speaker 2: the opposition is Mike Tyson. And that's part of the
Speaker 2: problem is we tend to convince ourselves that, hey, this
Speaker 2: is just the start. Christian Polisics said after the loss, Hey,
Speaker 2: this is just the start.
Speaker 3: It's not.
Speaker 2: We keep starting at the same place. I don't want
Speaker 2: to start. I want to be I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: a mile down the road instead of the starting line
Speaker 2: once again. But it's not the start because I don't
Speaker 2: see that the other countries aren't going to go. Let's
Speaker 2: let the United States catch up. That ain't happening. France
Speaker 2: is going to be dominating for quite some time. Spain
Speaker 2: is going to be, you know, Argentina even when Messi leaves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5: And when casual fans are watching the World Cup and
Speaker 5: we're facing Belgium and they say USA has three hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty people million people, Belgium has twelve million. Why
Speaker 5: can't we beat the country with three hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: million people over twelve million. It's the structure, not the population.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and having these academies, and I get that. You
Speaker 2: see this with other sports other countries. You know, Luka
Speaker 2: Doncic was probably in an academy at age thirteen. Joker
Speaker 2: was in an academy at you know, Dirk Novitsky in
Speaker 2: an academy. You're being raised to be a professional basketball player.
Speaker 2: And I think MLS now this according to Kevin Fraser
Speaker 2: and his son, you know, plays soccer competitively in Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: that MLS is maybe stunting the growth of USA soccer.
Speaker 3: That's according to Kevin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dyling, Yeah, I mean you see how big of
Speaker 4: business like youth high school sports are. Anyways, I amg
Speaker 4: academy in Florida, which is basically just a factory for
Speaker 4: kids to become professional athletes, sold to private equity for
Speaker 4: like a billion dollars a couple of years ago. So
Speaker 4: it ain't slowing down anytime soon.
Speaker 2: We say, good morning if you're watching on Peacock, another
Speaker 2: beautiful day here the American Century. Uh, they start for
Speaker 2: real tomorrow. We went to the Pairings party last night,
Speaker 2: hung out hoping somebody would recognize us. We did, look sad.
Speaker 2: I mean, I got to admit we did, and I'm
Speaker 2: including me that you're kind of going, well, hope. Somebody
Speaker 2: comes up and says hello, and then all of a sudden, Marvin.
Speaker 3: Goes, Doc Rivers, Hey, Doc Rivers here.
Speaker 2: I go all right, friendly face, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, Fritzy starts doing his Doc Rivers impersonation.
Speaker 3: Come on, Jed, you go.
Speaker 2: And then I see Doc and Doc and Larry David
Speaker 2: flew in together to play in the event. They've been
Speaker 2: trying to get Larry David from HERB for a couple
Speaker 2: of years now. I don't know if Larry's gonna stay there.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess Larry doesn't stay the whole weekend. I
Speaker 2: think he's gonna probably be a one and done because
Speaker 2: he even said he goes I'm playing Ish, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5: Everything around Larry David feels like an episode of his show.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 5: It feels like he could hit you with a golf
Speaker 5: ball and knock you out live on air, and that
Speaker 5: would be a curb episode Ish, Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean even the fact that he was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: He's like, you never invite me to this thing. He's like, Larry,
Speaker 4: we have invited to you the past three years. We've
Speaker 4: sent it to HBO, we sent it to your house.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they talked about that last year because one
Speaker 2: of the people who put the event on, they're like, man,
Speaker 2: trying to get Larry, and we just we can't get him,
Speaker 2: you know, but we're gonna try it. We're gonna keep
Speaker 2: on trying. And so when I saw him last night,
Speaker 2: it was like, holy you're here, and he goes heh Yes, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7: I do like the fact that the president of NBC
Speaker 7: Sports came up to us and he knew our names.
Speaker 6: Let me know.
Speaker 3: You're on peacock here. Yes, everything seems to be a
Speaker 3: painful inconvenience. Yes, Larry David and I don't think that's
Speaker 3: an act at all.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's Larry as Larry. It's not
Speaker 2: an episode. It just feels like you're looking for cameras.
Speaker 2: When you're around Larry, you're like, this is this an episode? Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5: The last time we had Larry David in studio, we
Speaker 5: were in California and we all have headsets on, and
Speaker 5: you offer the guest headset or not headset. He sat
Speaker 5: down and looks at us with our headphones on.
Speaker 3: He goes, I don't get a headphone. I want to
Speaker 3: be one of the guys.
Speaker 5: I can't do him, but he was doing himself.
Speaker 2: Let's see Bucky in Notre Dame. Buck he's back, Hi, Buck,
Speaker 2: what do you have for me today?
Speaker 3: DP?
Speaker 6: Six foot a very pelt to eighteen point five. When
Speaker 6: you guys written Notre Dame, I met everybody and you
Speaker 6: guys talking about celebrities and going up to him and
Speaker 6: talking to him stuff. Well, I'm in Legends, that bar
Speaker 6: restaurant right next door to you guys, and I go
Speaker 6: in there, and Marvin there, and I'm right next to Marvin,
Speaker 6: and we're looking at each other. Hey, how's it going?
Speaker 6: Blah blah blah, And we wash each other, you know,
Speaker 6: we wash hands. We walk out and we're talking and
Speaker 6: this and that. You guys get done. We meet you
Speaker 6: guys in line afterwards, and Marvin's right right next to
Speaker 6: you and Seton and Marvin's like, hey, this is Bucket.
Speaker 6: This met him in the bathroom and stuff like that,
Speaker 6: and Seton says, well, this must be a different kind
Speaker 6: of shake then, and I shook everybody's hands and everybody
Speaker 6: laughing and stuff. But yeah, you guys were awesome, But
Speaker 6: I just wanted to call and say hey, and everything
Speaker 6: looks great out there, and have a great weekend and
Speaker 6: hit them straight.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Bucky. We don't get to play anymore.
Speaker 2: We played on Monday, which was great. We know the course,
Speaker 2: you know, we had our yardage books out we're playing.
Speaker 2: I kept thinking, at altitude, I'm going to be blasting shots,
Speaker 2: and it didn't turn out that way. I was not
Speaker 2: blasting shots. The altitude was not as forgiving as I
Speaker 2: thought it was going to be.
Speaker 4: Yes, Dylan, Yeah, I mean, imagine the damage we could
Speaker 4: do if we got to play this course one more.
Speaker 3: Time we have Yeah, yes, all right.
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Speaker 9: Immediately after the game, they would ask for the ring.
Speaker 9: You're like a man, there's a process here, you know,
Speaker 9: it takes a while. It's gonna be in June, but
Speaker 9: it's awesome. It's in high right now in the safe spot.
Speaker 9: We won't say where it is. But I didn't bring
Speaker 9: it with me and my family was a little disappointed
Speaker 9: me for not bringing it.
Speaker 3: But do you have any input on the sign of it?
Speaker 3: You don't want my input on the design.
Speaker 9: I mean you started asking me for design tips that
Speaker 9: were going in the wrong direction. But we had a
Speaker 9: great process, you know, led by our president Chuck Arnold,
Speaker 9: and Jody was a great part of it. And the
Speaker 9: players had a lot saying that, you know, we're going
Speaker 9: to those guys, and I'm really I'm really happy that
Speaker 9: it's pretty It's pretty awesome, right.
Speaker 2: And see what I think they I brought through this
Speaker 2: auple years ago. You could have that big ring, but
Speaker 2: you don't want to wear the big ring. How about
Speaker 2: a ring inside the ring so then you could bear
Speaker 2: it out. You need to talk to John Schneier because
Speaker 2: he was pushing for that idea. That was going to
Speaker 2: be part of the thing where you take it off
Speaker 2: and there's another ring inside.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you would wear it that ole.
Speaker 9: Wacky but that was that was actually going to happen.
Speaker 9: It got down to like the under the one yard line,
Speaker 9: no pun intended, but we couldn't.
Speaker 3: Uh, we didn't pull it off.
Speaker 2: How often have you looked at the Super Bowl tak
Speaker 2: and you're not gonna believe this.
Speaker 9: I've watched it once on tape during the draft process,
Speaker 9: and we still haven't watched the TV copy.
Speaker 3: So I don't know why. I don't know what's wrong
Speaker 3: with me or whatever, but we just we we haven't.
Speaker 3: So it's are you worried? There's a different end?
Speaker 9: There is like a I don't know, there's like a
Speaker 9: just no no pull to do it yet.
Speaker 3: I think we'll do it before camp starts.
Speaker 9: But I actually I'm interested to watch the commercials and
Speaker 9: I know that's kind of a weird thing, but it's
Speaker 9: like to watch how the flow of the game with
Speaker 9: commercials and that'll be cool.
Speaker 2: So but what would you glean from watching the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: Like what would you.
Speaker 3: Take away like the TV copy? Yeah, that could help you. Well,
Speaker 3: it's going to be.
Speaker 9: Tricky because we start with the Patriots, you know, so
Speaker 9: I'm like a I'm a psycho edata guy where I
Speaker 9: need numbers and tendencies and uh, you know, I need
Speaker 9: you know, like what's the what's the data telling me
Speaker 9: all the time? So now there's no data, so it's
Speaker 9: you know, what's going to be their counter to what
Speaker 9: we did? You know, how do we kind of take
Speaker 9: the next you know, you know, evolution of what we
Speaker 9: did and like where we at scheme wise?
Speaker 3: So it's tricky.
Speaker 9: Those first games of the year are tricky when it
Speaker 9: comes to tendencies.
Speaker 3: And how you call games, how you build game plans.
Speaker 2: When did you lean on analytics? When when did you
Speaker 2: go all in and say this, Well it just.
Speaker 9: It always seemed that it was just just made sense.
Speaker 9: It's like, why wouldn't we use the best information out there?
Speaker 9: You know, you don't have to do it, but why
Speaker 9: would you be scared about things that are gonna possibly
Speaker 9: help you, So why wouldn't you just lean into it?
Speaker 2: But if they have the analytics on you, like, don't
Speaker 2: don't you cancel each other out if you both have
Speaker 2: the same Sometimes I.
Speaker 9: Turn into Vince Vaughan and wedding crashers, like am I interested?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 3: I'm not interested?
Speaker 9: Maybe I'm interested, she's interested, you know. So that's that's
Speaker 9: what's going on in my mind. Probably twenty four to seven.
Speaker 9: It's not a good place to be. But I think
Speaker 9: I think, like you're just starting with data and then
Speaker 9: to me, it's like, well, what's the best decision for
Speaker 9: the team?
Speaker 3: Is that? It is that where the gut goes? You know?
Speaker 3: Am I going off my gut? Here is it? How's
Speaker 3: the game going? You know this?
Speaker 9: But like people that fight it, I just don't understand, like,
Speaker 9: just relaxed, Why are you fighting now?
Speaker 2: You don't have to do what the numbers said? But
Speaker 2: but how much is gut? How much was the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl gut doing.
Speaker 3: Something or based on analytics? I don't I don't think.
Speaker 9: I don't think analytics drives our decisions. I think I
Speaker 9: think they support our decisions, and really it's a starting
Speaker 9: point on a lot of things. But you have to
Speaker 9: go off the tape, and you have to understand like
Speaker 9: how teams operate, and you have to have a great
Speaker 9: feel for your team. You know, when you're building game plans,
Speaker 9: it's not necessarily just doing it against the team you're playing.
Speaker 9: You're also trying to put your guys in position to
Speaker 9: do stuff that they can do well and so and
Speaker 9: then endgame, you know, like we're just side on fourth down,
Speaker 9: and you have a game plan going to the game
Speaker 9: on how we want to handle all those situations, and
Speaker 9: then you know you.
Speaker 3: Have to be able to adjust.
Speaker 2: He's a Mike McDonald, head coach of the defending Super
Speaker 2: Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks. How often do people think you're
Speaker 2: Michael McDonald?
Speaker 3: This singer?
Speaker 9: Every substitute teacher I ever had, without an exception, they
Speaker 9: would get to my name on the roll, call Michael McDonald's,
Speaker 9: and I'd raise my hand. I love your music, all right, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 9: I've heard that it's.
Speaker 3: Like worse than old McDonald had a farm.
Speaker 6: Oh you get that.
Speaker 3: One too well, That that that got all pretty quickly.
Speaker 9: But the the Michael McDonald's singer thing, just every it
Speaker 9: was every substitute teacher wasn't for you know, my entire
Speaker 9: you know, school career.
Speaker 3: But it's all good.
Speaker 2: Who did you seek advice from going into the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl that might surprise me?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 9: I want I was surprise. I called John Harbin, I talked,
Speaker 9: he was great. Probably can't mention one guy that really
Speaker 9: that really helped us out that had some conflict of insurance.
Speaker 3: Can we guess?
Speaker 6: Sure?
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm gonna tell you, but go ahead,
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick. I'm not that cool. Oh yeah, no, he wouldn't.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't have a fan.
Speaker 9: I've had a beer with coach Belichick and that was
Speaker 9: that was a pretty cool.
Speaker 2: That was a pretty cool dame. Who else would we guess?
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan, No, Kyle.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 9: But a lot of it was like, hey, there's a
Speaker 9: lot of I think one of the biggest themes of
Speaker 9: last year that we changed from year one to year
Speaker 9: two is like, we need to stick to who we
Speaker 9: are outside the circumstance, but the Super Bowl is different.
Speaker 9: So you do have to like concede that the process
Speaker 9: is different throughout like the media and you know there's
Speaker 9: things like halftime, pregame and stuff like that. But that's
Speaker 9: the way we framed it to our team and frankly
Speaker 9: for me, for a guy that hasn't been to the
Speaker 9: super Bowl, it's simplified it.
Speaker 3: You know. It simplified things.
Speaker 9: It took pressure off you of that you had to
Speaker 9: do everything right, you know, and you got to be
Speaker 9: perfect all week. It's like, no, just relax, take a
Speaker 9: deep breath. Let's go be us. You know, different setting,
Speaker 9: but let's just go be us and you know, not
Speaker 9: worry about all the extra stuff.
Speaker 3: Would you talk to Belichick about when you had your beer?
Speaker 9: It was he he was son was coaching at Washington.
Speaker 9: So we did the coaches clinic and I got the
Speaker 9: history of the NFL through Bill Belichick's eyes, and that.
Speaker 3: Was really cool. That was awesome. I was just sitting there, like,
Speaker 3: you know, tell me more. Don't want the beer to end.
Speaker 9: It was a couple of beers, more than one.
Speaker 2: It was more than one, But you feel like you're
Speaker 2: a super Bowl winning coat. And I don't like, I
Speaker 2: don't know when reality sets in for something as big
Speaker 2: as it is and how you're now viewed.
Speaker 3: I'm not used to it.
Speaker 9: It's it doesn't honestly in all I mean, I'm not
Speaker 9: just like, it doesn't feel like it, I just because
Speaker 9: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like I've changed, but people will change
Speaker 2: around you, because.
Speaker 3: I think you've gotta be aware of that.
Speaker 9: But it's it's cool to meet like people out here
Speaker 9: and you're like that that they know who we are
Speaker 9: and they know our team, and you know that we
Speaker 9: affected them in like some way, which is really cool.
Speaker 9: So that that's probably like the that's a really cool
Speaker 9: like byproduct of it. But I don't feel any different.
Speaker 9: You know, I still have a year and a half
Speaker 9: old son that he doesn't know anything. I gotta make
Speaker 9: sure his diaper's changed and he's fed and he's not
Speaker 9: pissed off. He was on we were on I forget
Speaker 9: the whole was, but he came out, ran through the ropes,
Speaker 9: grabbed my driver as we were walking down the fairway,
Speaker 9: and then I.
Speaker 3: Needed it back, so I was I didn't.
Speaker 9: Want to be the guy to grab it from him,
Speaker 9: and so I think I think Steph.
Speaker 3: My wife ended up taking it from and he, like
Speaker 3: you could.
Speaker 9: Hear this his cry like two holes away, just losing
Speaker 9: his mind. I was felt bad for a second, but uh,
Speaker 9: now that's great. It's really cool to see him.
Speaker 3: Could you change the diaper before the plate clock expires.
Speaker 3: I've gotten pretty good, really good.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it's but it's also depending on his his
Speaker 9: like his attitude.
Speaker 2: So you need to bring out the baby and the diapers.
Speaker 2: Here we're gonna have coaching.
Speaker 9: Is it like is it a full like did we
Speaker 9: did blow blowout?
Speaker 3: Or is it like is it a solid? Is it
Speaker 3: a solid? You know how different types, you know, they
Speaker 3: gotta evaluate it.
Speaker 2: But having that escape, how important is it when he
Speaker 2: doesn't know anything? Yeah, and you could go home. You
Speaker 2: don't have to answer any questions.
Speaker 9: Well, I get to spend more than thirty minutes now,
Speaker 9: you know with him that was that was a story
Speaker 9: last year.
Speaker 3: But are you a grinder that you're going to be
Speaker 3: there all day all night? No, I can't. I I
Speaker 3: am quality of life man.
Speaker 9: I just like I can't I tell the team like
Speaker 9: if I'm making decisions after nine pm, like, we'ren't trouble
Speaker 9: you know. So and we get a workout in in
Speaker 9: the morning with our crew, and then and then we
Speaker 9: put in a great day's work and then we go home.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 9: Now, like there's a process you have to abide by
Speaker 9: that we have to do. But to spend all the
Speaker 9: time like with our family, like to this off season.
Speaker 9: Now Jack SI's a year and a half, so you know,
Speaker 9: he's got a personality and attitude and you know he's
Speaker 9: got some interest and we're trying to teach me how
Speaker 9: to talk, and it's just it's so much fun right now.
Speaker 2: It's just it's really awesome. Congratulations, thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 2: And I'll go back to quality of life. After talking
Speaker 2: to Dick for meal many times about he sleep at
Speaker 2: the office, and Tony Dungee said that Chuck Noles said,
Speaker 2: go home to your families.
Speaker 3: That was important and it is important.
Speaker 2: So quality of life, man, and being there when with
Speaker 2: your kids. There's no substitute. I did second shift at
Speaker 2: ESPN for fifteen years when my kids were all born,
Speaker 2: and you miss out on so much. Don't miss out
Speaker 2: on those little things. You can never get him back.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that you're an ask gone by. Really yes, yes,
Speaker 3: we've got another on the way. So do you know
Speaker 3: what you're having? A baby?
Speaker 6: Girl?
Speaker 2: Kind of December Samantha after Sam Darnold, Well do you
Speaker 2: have a name, but we'll tell, Yeah, that's yeah, don't tell,
Speaker 2: never ever tell. Thank you coach. All thanks stopping mine.
Speaker 2: Thanks guys, it's Mike McDonald, Seahawks head coach. I really
Speaker 2: enjoyed talking to him. And I didn't know he was
Speaker 2: a fan of the show until he said, Hey, whenever
Speaker 2: you want me, you know, how about it during a
Speaker 2: bye week and I'm like, okay, And he had a
Speaker 2: sense of humor. Uh, you know, he comes in jacked,
Speaker 2: like you know, these young guys, I mean, they're aware
Speaker 2: of how they look on the sidelines here.
Speaker 3: It's like referees. They want to be wearing tight fitting.
Speaker 2: But the quality of life is really important because and
Speaker 2: he said a quote that I will remember for a
Speaker 2: long time. If I'm making decisions after nine o'clock because
Speaker 2: I'm at the office, those aren't good decisions.
Speaker 3: There's only some much you can do.
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, you know, it's what
Speaker 2: a paralysis by analysis there, And I think that's the
Speaker 2: important part with these coaches. Dick Vermeil would sleep at
Speaker 2: the office. I don't know if it made him any better.
Speaker 2: John Gruden would get in so early in the morning
Speaker 2: and I remember he said, Hey, I'm going to be
Speaker 2: here at you know, seven and six in the morning.
Speaker 3: Call me and he'd be there at his desk.
Speaker 2: Quality of life is so important because you have to
Speaker 2: have that balance. And if Chuck Knowle, the Great Steeler coach,
Speaker 2: is telling his coaches go home, be with your family,
Speaker 2: you have to have balance in your life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, I like the part where you guys were
Speaker 5: talking analytics, because he's described as an analytics guy. But
Speaker 5: he said, we use it. We use it a lot. Well,
Speaker 5: we don't face every decision off it. We sometimes use
Speaker 5: our gut.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that that's where you lean on
Speaker 2: it because it reinforces what you already believe in instead
Speaker 2: of I got to open up a notebook and go, okay,
Speaker 2: what are we doing here? Okay it says this in
Speaker 2: the moment. That's not how it works. You know, analytics
Speaker 2: doesn't really know what's the feeling here. How does somebody
Speaker 2: get banged up, you know, the weather condition like all
Speaker 2: of those things. That's where it comes back to what
Speaker 2: is your gut feeling and trust your gut feeling. And
Speaker 2: I think sometimes we have lost that in sports.
Speaker 7: Yes, Tom, I thought that was very refreshing to hear
Speaker 7: that they're not handcuffed by this analytics.
Speaker 3: That these coaches actually can be coaches.
Speaker 7: And just because this says what you have to do
Speaker 7: on every play in every situation, I'm not going to
Speaker 7: do that every time.
Speaker 3: Yes, Dylan. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I compare the analytics into like cooking with a recipe,
Speaker 4: where it's like it's you have your basically your guideline there,
Speaker 4: but you can kind of jazz it up and insert
Speaker 4: your own flavor into it as you see fit.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of which, uh, if you're watching on Peacock,
Speaker 2: we're going out to the Rectech grills, it's meat Friday.
Speaker 3: Good job, Dylan. I like that transition, the unintentional segue.
Speaker 3: Who said it was on the I did I.
Speaker 2: Did our meat Thursday will unveil that right after this
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what those oreos are, but those oreos
Speaker 2: are I don't I don't know how they work, but
Speaker 2: they work.
Speaker 3: So what are they? Are? They wrapped in bacon? Dylan?
Speaker 4: Yes, so it's an oreo wrapped in bacon. I think,
Speaker 4: dusted with rub and with Saracha in the inside.
Speaker 3: It works.
Speaker 2: It does, I don't know how like the other stuff,
Speaker 2: the lobster that he has, I mean the other stuff.
Speaker 2: I understand that I looked at that Oreo Fritzy was
Speaker 2: like staring.
Speaker 3: At the.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: I said, go ahead, take one. Yeah, Paul Dan you
Speaker 3: may have missed us.
Speaker 5: We were behind you. But Dylan and I, when we
Speaker 5: saw the crab stuff lobster tails, we hugged each other
Speaker 5: said we've made it.
Speaker 3: I don't hug many people, all right.
Speaker 2: So I mentioned that Austin Reeves tomorrow, Steve Young tomorrow.
Speaker 2: We hope to have the WNBA commissioner, Kathy Engelbert on
Speaker 2: as well. And I saw Nate Bargatzi, the great comedian.
Speaker 2: I was on the putting green over here, goofing around,
Speaker 2: and he jumped off his cart, ran over, gave me
Speaker 2: a big hug, and he might join us later on.
Speaker 2: There are just so many moving parts here, so we're
Speaker 2: trying to h well, just tune in.
Speaker 3: You know that we'll have one.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Marvin, you know, coming here, you just see that
Speaker 7: people might not be on the show because of time
Speaker 7: restraints or whatever, but they still want to see you personally.
Speaker 7: Almost like Jason Kelsey Steph Curry last year. That's the
Speaker 7: first time when I saw him up close, I was liked, Oh,
Speaker 7: he's tall, like six three and he was sitting down
Speaker 7: and we're walking by. You know, he's dapping everybody up
Speaker 7: and he sees you and he stands up. So it
Speaker 7: might not. You know, I don't want to. You know,
Speaker 7: I can't join the show. I don't want to, but
Speaker 7: I want to see you personally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, Steph Curry and Jason kelsere probably the
Speaker 2: two biggest ticket items here. I mean, the Jason kels
Speaker 2: stuff is remarkable because a couple of years ago he's
Speaker 2: just a future Hall of Fame center and then all right,
Speaker 2: his brother is a future Hall of Fame tight end.
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden his brother is dating Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, Jason Kelsey is in
Speaker 2: People magazine is one of the sexiest men, and then
Speaker 2: his brother marys Taylor Swift. Now you cross over. Now
Speaker 2: you're in another world that you're so unfamiliar with. And
Speaker 2: I think, and Kevin Fraser mentioned this, Kevin the host
Speaker 2: of Entertainment tonight, like on you once you go over there,
Speaker 2: when mom's grandma's daughters.
Speaker 3: Then it's different.
Speaker 2: There are more little girls screaming at Jason Kelsey than
Speaker 2: anybody else, a whole different fan base here, guests Dylan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Jason Kelsey's wife has become incredibly famous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's there's like layers to.
Speaker 2: It, and they are everybody is on lockdown. Anybody who
Speaker 2: went to that wedding, like you can almost I don't
Speaker 2: want to say here in their eyes.
Speaker 3: But they're like, I can't really talk about it. Even Jason.
Speaker 3: I said, you know how to go.
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, okay, did you cry? He goes, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I cried.
Speaker 2: I cried my brother's wedding, and I don't think I
Speaker 2: cried a mine. And then I thought, okay, I don't
Speaker 2: want to ask you any more questions. I don't want
Speaker 2: to make you uncomfortable here. And that's what it felt
Speaker 2: like I was doing. Yeah, Pauling, And we have.
Speaker 5: An interesting history with Steph Curry as well. I just
Speaker 5: looked it up. If you'll remember this, Dan, we had
Speaker 5: him on August of twenty fourteen and you asked him
Speaker 5: who's the best offensive player in basketball? He said me,
Speaker 5: And it cost quite a stir because he avere twenty
Speaker 5: three this season before and people like Steph Curry's full
Speaker 5: of himself. Steph Curry's saying he's better than Lebron at offense.
Speaker 5: He won the next top two MVPs after that interview.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he had the confidence in himself to say, yes,
Speaker 2: I'm a better offensive player than Lebron, and looking back,
Speaker 2: he was right. Even though Lebron's the greatest scorer of
Speaker 2: all time, Steph Curry at the time was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm you know, I'm certainly a better shooter than him.
Speaker 2: You know, Lebron's always been a great scorer. It's not
Speaker 2: a great shooter. There's a difference. Like Russell Westbrook could score,
Speaker 2: he couldn't shoot. There's just certain guys that, you know,
Speaker 2: Alan Iverson I didn't think had a great shot as
Speaker 2: much as Allan Iverson could score on anybody. Ray Allen
Speaker 2: could shoot better than almost anybody, but he wasn't getting
Speaker 2: the same you know, kind of thirty points a game.
Speaker 2: Reggie Miller. You know, there's a lot of guys who
Speaker 2: can shoot, and I don't know that that's kind of
Speaker 2: an interesting question. I don't know who I'd ask it
Speaker 2: to would you rather be a great scorer or a
Speaker 2: great shooter?
Speaker 7: Yes, Marvin, But if you're Ray Allen and Reggie Miller,
Speaker 7: they both had the ability to score forty and fifty points,
Speaker 7: so they might be in a different category than say
Speaker 7: somebody like a Steve Kurr that was just specifically there
Speaker 7: to just shoot open jumpers.
Speaker 4: Dylan, Well, does being a scorer in this scenario mean
Speaker 4: like you're taking it to the hoop? And yeah, so
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess three pointer? Are you get more
Speaker 4: longevity you're a good shooter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It just dawned on me that I always wanted to
Speaker 2: be a shooter. But when you think about being a scorer,
Speaker 2: that means, you know, Lebron it doesn't look pretty. You know,
Speaker 2: the jump shots not pretty. Bronni is a better jumper
Speaker 2: than his dad. But Lebron can get to the hoop
Speaker 2: as well as anybody who's ever played the game.
Speaker 3: And even Michael Jordan, you.
Speaker 2: Know second that he co signed where he said, look
Speaker 2: if I played him one on one and he gets
Speaker 2: me on my hip going to the right, I can't
Speaker 2: stop him.
Speaker 3: And here's one of the great defenders of all time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Palling he does feel like a scorer means you
Speaker 5: have multiple shots things in your offensive Arsenal like Jalen Brunson,
Speaker 5: there's not one thing to defend him on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would. Yeah, he's kind of both.
Speaker 2: He's a little bit of a hybrid that he can shoot,
Speaker 2: but I would look at him as a scorer.
Speaker 7: Yes, Mark, I think the one seed to Jalen Brunts's
Speaker 7: point is Kevin Durant, great shooter and great score.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a great point. James Harden has a
Speaker 2: great shot, yes, and he's a score as well. Toilet
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Speaker 2: the poll question there, Dylan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then more impressive.
Speaker 4: David Wells drunk perfect game were Doc Ellis's LSD no hitter?
Speaker 4: Sixty seven percent say David Wells? And do you prefer
Speaker 4: surf or turf? Seventy turf?
Speaker 2: David Wells is here. That's why we brought up yes
Speaker 2: poll question. Brian and Indy, let me try you again there, Brian.
Speaker 10: Hey Dan, Hey you guys talking earlier. Hey Dan, you
Speaker 10: guys were talking earlier about some, you know, awkward celebrity interactions.
Speaker 10: I have a best and worst happening to the athlete interact.
Speaker 10: And first was I was probably about twenty five years
Speaker 10: old to go into a Jiffy Lub to get my
Speaker 10: oil changed. And the only other person in that tiny
Speaker 10: waiting room was Dallas Clark. So it's just me and him,
Speaker 10: and I'm racking my brain thinking about what to say
Speaker 10: and if I say.
Speaker 3: Anything at all.
Speaker 10: My brilliant line was, so you get like free oil
Speaker 10: changes and stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, sometimes you have that awkward question. You can't help it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian, short on time here