1 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Securing America with me, Frank Affney. The program 2 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: that's a kind of owner's manual for protecting the country 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: we love against all enemies, foreign and domestic, to the 4 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: glory of God and his kingdom. We're going to be 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: talking about, first and foremost the war now underway in 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: an round Iran, but involving some other nations, including Communist China, 7 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: foreign power that has a very keen interest in the 8 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: outcome of this affair. I'm going to give you a 9 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: little bit of background before we talk to someone who 10 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: knows both countries. Intimately. Communist China is seeking to mediate 11 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: a cessation of hostilities with Iran and if possible, save 12 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: its puppet regime there. The transparent ulterior motive, however, is 13 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: to ensure continued Chinese access to Iranian oil exports. That 14 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: agenda has become critical with President Trump's successful removal of 15 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: Venezuela as Nicholas Maduro and his subsequent control over that 16 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: other main supplier of oil for the Chinese Communist Party. 17 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: Suddenly the tables have turned on Jijigping, who is using 18 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: his monopoly on processed rare earth minerals and dumping of 19 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: US Treasuries to extract concessions from mister Trump and erode 20 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: the dollar's status as the world's reserve currency. It remains 21 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: to be seen how the President will wield his newfound 22 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: leverage over our mortal enemy, the CCP. But Donald Trump 23 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: now has the option of checkmating Gie's ambition to seize 24 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: Taiwan and otherwise threaten America. Well, we are going to 25 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: turn to a man who has come to my attention 26 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: and we've had him on the program in the recent past. 27 00:01:55,080 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: His name is Abtine Vasiri. He is a man who 28 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: hails originally from Iran. He migrated to this country when 29 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: he was about nine years old. He has been, as 30 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: a result, living the American dream, a very successful serial entrepreneur, 31 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: an attorney by training, and a man who has done, 32 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: among other things, a lot of business with China over 33 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: the years as well. Consequently, who better than he to 34 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: talk about what's going on with respect to both of 35 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: these countries and the prospects that we will see the 36 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: President navigating the challenges before us successfully with both. I 37 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: want to just mention that Abtein was in the recent 38 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: Republican primary a candidate for the thirty second district of Congress. 39 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: Sorry to say he did not prevail in that race, 40 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: but he is now going to be I'm quite sure 41 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: are an even more impactful figure in working through many 42 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: of these kinds of public policy issues. And we are 43 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: very pleased to welcome back to Securing America. Thank you 44 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: for joining us epteen and for all your help in 45 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: recent days, among other things with Prop ten, which we're 46 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: going to talk about a little bit. But first let 47 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: me ask you about what's going on in Iran now 48 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: as you see it, the state of the war there 49 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: and the prospects for an end to the horrific regime 50 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: that you experienced firsthand that has been horrifically oppressing the 51 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: people of that country but also threatening ours. 52 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: Well, Frank, thank you so much for having me on. 53 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: I think, you know, what's going on in Iran is interesting, 54 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: is you know a lot of people thought that if 55 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: you get some of these leaders in the Islamerk Republic 56 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: to basically go away, that you know, the regime itself 57 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: ire GC and and you know they're you know, entrenched 58 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: part of the regime would fall. And in the last 59 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: few days I've seen people, you know, talk about the 60 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: artes versus the dire GC. The iur GC is kind 61 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: of the loyal guard that was created by these crazy 62 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: Islamis to watch over the regular military. The regular military 63 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: is called Artesh, which is military. My father was part 64 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: of that Artesh. You know, he was in the air force, 65 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: So the air force, Army, Navy, those are the artes 66 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: and then the IRGC is basically like the Naziss that 67 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: keeps an eye on their military to make sure they 68 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: don't you know, do anything to overthrow the government. One 69 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: of the things that people don't realize, one of the 70 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: reasons so many people died in in Iran or Rock War, 71 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: is that the leadership, you know, was was one hundred 72 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: thousand or so military officers in Iran were perched, were killed, 73 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: and those are part of the artesch. So one, the 74 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: military wasn't ready when Iraq attacked, and two the army, 75 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: the Molaws didn't trust the army to move troops to 76 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: the border Iraq because they thought and a lot of 77 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: the troops were actually on the on the eastern border 78 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: running Rock attack and they thought if those troops moved 79 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: through the city to go to the western side to 80 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: fight the Iraqi front, that they were gonna overthrow the Molaws. 81 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: So the Mola sat there and allowed a lot of 82 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: people get killed by the Iraqis just because they were 83 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: trying to survive and save themselves. And it was weird 84 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: because the air force was fighting the Army of Iraqi, 85 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: so they were flying all times of sorties on f 86 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: fours fighting the Iraqis to not allow the Iraqis. So 87 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: so many people died senselessly because the Molas didn't try 88 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: it trust the regular military, the Artas and this is 89 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: just stuff that people, you know, people don't know about. 90 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: But today, and by the way, mind you, this is 91 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: why you know Prop ten is so important. The powers 92 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: that be, the Muslim brotherhood, the evil doers that wanted 93 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: to destroy Iran. Iran had the fourth largest military in 94 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: the world, the fourth most powerful military in the world, 95 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: right after the United States, France, and England. So number 96 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: four was Iran. Today we saw how that military is 97 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: just a hollow and the United States and Israel the 98 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: two most you know, powerful air forces in the more. 99 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: And by the way, Iran had like the third or 100 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: fourth most powerful air force in the world at the time. 101 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 2: But they just completely destroyed Iran's military. They sunk every 102 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: ship like it was nothing. And the fact that these Molaws, 103 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: I mean that there's the IRGC and the thugs have survived. 104 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: That tells you that they're getting leadership from somewhere, and 105 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: that somewhere is China. China cannot afford Iran to fall 106 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: because President Trump is just masterfully, like you know, really navigated. 107 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: Does he really understands how important it is to secure 108 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 2: the oil and all of this with Venezuela and Iran 109 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: has really been about oil, and it's really been about China. 110 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: And President Trump is basically masterfully navigating as saying, Okay, 111 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: we're going to control seventy percent of China's energy flow. 112 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: We're not gonna cut them off as long as China 113 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: plays nice and international community there. Now, you know, in Iran, 114 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: it's interesting, you know the whole reason that these crazy 115 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: Islamis even got a foothold in Iran, you know, they 116 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: got in and you know the history of it. We 117 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: could talk four shows about this, but but the history 118 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: of this is the previous dynasty before the Palavi dynasty, 119 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: which you know Reza was the first king, then Mohammed 120 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: resils Shaw and now his his his son rez Shaw 121 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: the second is the most popular figure by far amongst 122 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: Iranians inside and outside Iran. But before that, there was 123 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: a gad Yard dynasty. It was another kingdom. The Vajer 124 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: dynasty was so corrupt and the British really had control 125 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: of the Arjai dynasty and they kept using the arj 126 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: dynasty to just you know, take over all the natural resources. 127 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: The British didn't like that this you know, Palavi dynasty, 128 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: Mohammed the Shaw was so friendly with the United States, 129 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: and the British always just didn't like that and wanted 130 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: to overthrow them, and finally they succeeded. And so so 131 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: the Molas are really just a continuation of the Vajar 132 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: dynasty because friends in England really unleashed this this Islamic 133 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: terror on us and then they're so incompetent that they 134 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: handed it all over to China. President Trump is so 135 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: small and he really masterfully understands that that he's getting 136 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: this back and he's getting America to be the most 137 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: powerful country in the world again, to control the oil resources, 138 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: to control the Middle East oil resources. And this has 139 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: all been about China. And the crazy part is, you know, 140 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 2: all of these Islamis would say oh, you know, US 141 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: has so many companies inside Iran and US has ripping 142 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: us up. Well, these guys just handed all the oil 143 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: and gas to China. In fact, I don't know if 144 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: people realize, but Iran signed Islam a republic. Not Iran 145 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: signed a four hundred billion dollar oil contract with China, 146 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: where it's a ten year contract. Four hundred billion dollars 147 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: of Iranian oil goes to China. In response, China basically 148 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: sells Iran all of its surveillance technology to make sure 149 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: that Iran becomes the most surveiled country in the world. 150 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: So China gets to sell its surveillance technology and return 151 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: it gets oil. And they wanted to use Iran as 152 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: part of the Silk Road to get access to Europe. 153 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: And President Trump master we cut all that off. 154 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: Well, it'll be fascinating to see how he plays this 155 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: hand out in the days to come. I'm concerned that 156 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: the Chinese are preparing to act on their long standing 157 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: designs about Taiwan, and if this masterful bit of jiu 158 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: jitsu can help prevent that, it's a very very important 159 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: aspect of this larger military campaign. A team, we have 160 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: to take a short break. We'll be right back with 161 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: more and we're going to talk about Proposition ten in 162 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: the State of Texas and Sharia right after this. We're 163 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: we had thought we would be continuing conversation with abteen, 164 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: but we had technical difficulties and couldn't be more pleased 165 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: to have in his stead another great freedom fighter in 166 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: the state of Texas. We're showcasing several of them in 167 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: the course of this program, and she is one of 168 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: my favorites. Her name is Cindy Castilla. She is the 169 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: president of the Texas chapter of a wonderful organization founded 170 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: by an old and very dear friend of mine, Phyllis Schlaffley, 171 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: called Eagle Forum, and she is one of the foremost 172 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: leaders of that grassroots organization, but really, I would say 173 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: of grassroots America. And she has been intimately involved in 174 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: the fight for Proposition ten, among other things. She had 175 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: a lot of other fish that she was frying, if 176 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: you will, during this busy primary season. But I'm so 177 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: grateful to you, sending for all that you did to 178 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: make this particular proposition both a priority and a wild success. 179 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: Before we get to all of that, just tell us 180 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: a little bit about Eagle Forum. What you do, how 181 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: you do it and why it did make a contribution 182 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: in all of this. 183 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: Okay, And I mean, Frank, you're the greatest leader on 184 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: this stuff, and you've been teaching us about this problem 185 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: for as long as I've known you, which I know 186 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: is you know, ten or fifteen years, and we appreciate that. 187 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: So Eagle Forum is grassroots. We're conservative because we do 188 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: start with like constitutional and biblical principles, but we focus 189 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: on things that impact families, and it turns out everything 190 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: impacts families, so we stay very, very busy. We generally 191 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: were nonpartisan. Officially, we generally are aligned with the Republican 192 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: Party and they are a grassroots up party and in 193 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: Texas that's been very much so so that that's how 194 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: we're set up, is get the grassroots to learn an issue, 195 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 3: care about an issue, fight for an issue, and get 196 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 3: it done. So so that's what we do, and we've 197 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: been teaching them about Islam. We've we've gotten some smaller 198 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: bills passed that now need to be updated. In the 199 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: past with your help, you know, very very important to us. 200 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: But now we've got to get people to understand how 201 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: critical this is. So that is what we are helping 202 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: to do. But we need people's help. 203 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: Well, so surely do. But one thing I just wanted 204 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: to make sure was impressed upon our audience, Cindy, is 205 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: that the people who were familiar with what sharia is 206 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: and what it will portend, were it to become an 207 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: even bigger force in Texas, VOD overwhelmingly to prohibit it. 208 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: What is the greatest challenge, as you see it, to 209 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: increasing the numbers of people who have that kind of 210 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: understanding of this problem. 211 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 3: Okay, it's getting them, number one, just to open their 212 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: eyes and being willing to acknowledge. Some people just want 213 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 3: to be blind. They don't want to know that there's 214 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: something tremendously risky, horrible, would be terrible ahead of them, 215 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: and so they may not want to be looking. So 216 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 3: we've got to find ways in our everyday conversations with friends, family, relatives, neighbors, 217 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: if you've got if you have your walking a dog, 218 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 3: have conversations with people in the street, if you have followers, 219 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: start educating them. Share some stories of impact of Sharia 220 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: law and Islamic law on people across the world. The 221 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: Islamic nations have no freedom. Those people, they have no freedom, 222 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 3: women have no consequential rights in Islamic countries, and this 223 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 3: will come to America. They're trying in Virginia, they tried 224 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: to pass a law on outlawing being Islamophobic that has 225 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: thought police, that is free speech police, and it didn't pass, 226 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 3: but it's not going away there either. So our legislators 227 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: have to understand the problem. The people are getting it. 228 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: Legislators are starting, they're asking questions, but some of them 229 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: operate in fear, and we've got to you know, we're 230 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: not threatening them, but we need them to understand that 231 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 3: they have to have some fear of voters who are 232 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: not going to tolerate them not working very very hard 233 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: to curtail stuff we've already done to push back and 234 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: to make laws that protect our state. 235 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: Well, this is such a no brainer, really, especially when 236 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: you see the kind of outcome there. And I neglected 237 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: to say specifically in this particular program, out of two 238 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: million responses to the question, should basically Texas prohibitoryal law, 239 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: one point nine million of them said yes. That's about 240 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the pull in this particular instance. 241 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: And I guess the question to you, Cindy, is as 242 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: you work the grassroots political scene. You are uniquely positioned, 243 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: you and your team, of course, to help do what 244 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: seems to me to be a critical next step, which 245 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: is making sure that this vote has impact in the 246 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: election ahead now going into November, specifically by making sure 247 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: that every person standing for office basically is asked the 248 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: question where do you stand on Sharia? Are you okay 249 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: with it continuing to essentially subvert the state and elsewhere 250 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: in the country as well, of course, or do you 251 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: stand for its prohibition? Is that part of your agenda 252 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: and that of equal form Texas going forward? 253 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: Now, we do that in vetting meetings. We have done 254 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: it already with a lot of people on the ballot, 255 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: but yes, we will try to meet with elected officials, 256 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: the ones that have won their primary and the ones 257 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: that are still looking to win one if they're in 258 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: a runoff, we will speak to them. And I tell you, 259 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 3: you know, it's something everybody needs to do. People need 260 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 3: to do that themselves. Call If you already know who's 261 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 3: going to be on the ballot, call them, ask them 262 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: what they think about this. You'll find a lot of 263 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: times they start with, well, I've got a lot of friends, 264 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: or I work with Muslims, and they're so nice and I, 265 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: I mean, we have to combat those things at the 266 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: get go, and I just say, you know, yes, sir, 267 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: And they're in more danger. They're in danger sooner than 268 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: I'm in danger. As this rises that they're not complying. 269 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 3: If they're Muslim and claim to be part of this 270 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 3: Islamic group and they're not following this to a t, 271 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: they're going to be asked to do that first, and 272 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 3: that puts even you as their friend, in danger. But 273 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 3: if they don't follow it, they could be dead. That's 274 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: that's the first rule. 275 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: Yes, so, Sidney. One other piece of this that I 276 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: just wanted to check with you on is the extent 277 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: to which the public is being disinformed about some of 278 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: the tenets of Sharia that are so troubling you alluded to. 279 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: If you're outwalking your dog, to talk to people about this, 280 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: talk to them, especially if they've got a dog that 281 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 1: you know Sharia supremacist would take their dogs away and 282 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: kill them, for example. But to what extent do you 283 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: find the arguments most persuasive that people need to hear 284 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:16,239 Speaker 1: to correct their misapprehension. For example, is Sharia? Excuse me? 285 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: Is Sharia a religion? 286 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: Sharia is Islamic law, and if you look at the 287 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 3: Islamic countries, you absolutely see that they have to follow 288 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 3: tenants of law in every part of their life. It 289 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 3: is not confined to a mosque. That we know more 290 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: about mosques. We know that they're centers for setting up 291 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: attacks and war, and they're teaching things that are contrary 292 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 3: to our constitution and to our way of life. So 293 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: so part of the pushback is no, they're peaceful. They 294 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: say they're peaceful. Well, if you look at their plans, 295 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: you look at history, we have so much evidence that 296 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 3: they're playing their game, step by step by step to 297 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 3: take over a nation, and we are the target, and 298 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 3: Texas is the target because we're conservative. If they can 299 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: get us to fault, they can get anybody and everybody 300 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: to fault. So you just have to take them one 301 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 3: by one. If you're speaking to a woman, let them 302 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 3: know that their rights are subjugated, that men are marrying 303 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 3: for women and children. 304 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, they sure are. These are the kinds of grassroots 305 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: techniques that I think brought us victory decisively in this 306 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: Proposition ten vote, and we're going to need them even 307 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: more frankly, both in Texas and across this country and 308 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: I know you and your counterparts and Eagle Forum will 309 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: be bringing all of those skill sets to bear, Cindy Castilla, 310 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: and we so appreciate you. How do people learn more 311 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: about your organization? It's our website. 312 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: We're online at Texas Egleforum dot com. We have a website. 313 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: We do have a drop down Islam section and they 314 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 3: can go there or at Texas ef. 315 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: On there benshi dot com as well. 316 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, we've got that posted. 317 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 3: We've got a link free you. 318 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: We've got to let you go. Thank you, Cindy, come 319 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: back soon with updates on all of this great work. 320 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: We're right back, folks to stay tuned, welcome back, and 321 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: we are visiting at this point. I'm delighted to say 322 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: with doctor Karen Sigimann, the president of the American Freedom Alliance, 323 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: wonderful organization based out in Los Angeles, California. She has 324 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: had a lifetime of experience working on behalf of our 325 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: country in various capacities. A freedom fighter through and through, 326 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: and we owe much to her because Karen was the 327 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: original impetus behind bringing Dutch Parliament, Turrian and another great 328 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: freedom fighter, Gurrett Wilders to the United States in early 329 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: January and the course of which he participated in what 330 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: proved to be a catalytic program that took place on 331 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: the ninth of January, with not only his own presentation 332 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 1: that was marvelous, but also those of Steve Bannon and 333 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: Glenn Beck and Karen, I just want to say thank 334 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: you for all that you do, particularly forward deploying to 335 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: Texas with us for this Proposition ten vote Proposition ten again, folks, 336 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: being this short but very much to the point proposition 337 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: on the Republican primary ballot. And Karen, I wanted to 338 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: just catch up with you as you are about to 339 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: head back to Los Angeles about sort of the impetus 340 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: that was given to the remarkable turnout and the very 341 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: very well fantastic okay the word for it results of 342 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: the vote on the proposition with that first effort on 343 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: the ninth of January. 344 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Frank, thank you so much. And being part of 345 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 4: this has been such a tremendous honor and opportunity. How 346 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 4: it all started, as you note, was I was bringing 347 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 4: geared fielders over to Los Angeles because that's where I 348 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 4: am based, and we adore geared fielders. We love all 349 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 4: freedom fighters, and him especially. He has been beating this 350 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 4: drum on if you don't stand up to immigration and 351 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 4: the permission that you give to people who's everything, whose religion, 352 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 4: whose culture, whose ideology is completely counter two ours, that 353 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 4: is freedom loving, democratic and Judeo Christian, if you open 354 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 4: the floodgates to them, you will lose your country. So 355 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 4: Geared Fielders has been for decades the spokesperson of this 356 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 4: not only count against this, the invasion, but also giving 357 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 4: one permission to stand up for one's own culture, and 358 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 4: this is crucially important. And we reached back out to 359 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 4: him because of the election of Mom Dami in New 360 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 4: York City, the where nine to eleven happened. Violin she 361 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 4: had at its most despicable, so we brought him out. 362 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: But Steve Bannon said, great, but Texas is really the 363 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 4: battleground for this, and that was the impetus we brought. 364 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 4: We brought Geared Filders here. Steve spoke, Glenn Beck spoke, 365 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,239 Speaker 4: and as you note, it was the galvanizing moment. But 366 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 4: because people like you took advantage of getting everybody together 367 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 4: there and using it as a launch pad to fight 368 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 4: against this, to fight four Proposition ten against Charia, and 369 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 4: Steve had noted. Steve laid down the challenge that evening 370 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 4: and said, are you going to fight for your country? 371 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 4: And it was just an extraordinary thing. We recognize that 372 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 4: if we lose Texas, we lose the nation, and if 373 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 4: we lose the nation, we really lose the free world. 374 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 4: Because if you're given an opportunity to stand up for 375 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 4: freedom and you don't seize it with vigor, what does 376 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 4: that say to all the bad guys, not just the 377 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 4: specific bad guys you're fighting against, but all of them. 378 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 4: And I think what we did was just an absolutely 379 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 4: resounding hell No. We believe in our culture, our society, 380 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 4: our rule of law, our sets of freedom, our precepts, 381 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: rgdeo Christian underpinnings, and we don't want any of the 382 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 4: rest coming in. 383 00:24:54,000 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: So it was, Yeah, it certainly was. And as you 384 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: looked at how it played out in the course of 385 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: the campaign for Prop ten, talk a little bit about 386 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: some of the most important messaging that seemingly resonated tremendously 387 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: with the voters, who, by ninety five to five margin 388 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: quoted yes to this idea that Sharia should be prohibited 389 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: in the state of Texas. 390 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 4: Well I think that there's a real understanding generally speaking 391 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 4: of what an invasion is all about. Again, none of 392 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 4: this would have occurred had Epic City not come in, 393 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 4: had now known as the Meadows, had a lot of 394 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 4: terrific reporting been done to lay down the groundwork of 395 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 4: the extent to which this invasion is already occurring. The 396 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 4: number of mosques two thousand, I believe in Texas growing 397 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 4: at the rate of dozens before you can blink an eye. 398 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 4: Amy Mack has been doing tremendous reporting. You have Peter 399 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 4: Mackilvenna about the extent of the incursion, the extent to 400 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 4: which Texas and not nationwide taxpayers are funding too much 401 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 4: of this. I mean, it's a shocking thing. You and 402 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 4: I have been speaking about the invasion by China and 403 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 4: how we are funding that the Chinese Communist Party one 404 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 4: way or another through their unrestricted warfare. Shihad is conducted 405 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 4: similarly in that it's not always kinectic. It's not always 406 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 4: hijacking planes and flying them into buildings. It's not always 407 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 4: shooting shootings. It's you can take over a nation not 408 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 4: by firing a shot. Maw Sansu had said this. We 409 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 4: have been watching that, and I think the messaging that's 410 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 4: been happening with you, Amy Peter, obviously, Steve Men, countless 411 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 4: countless others are making the point that you can lose 412 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 4: your nation not necessarily through violent means, and that messaging 413 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 4: has been very effective. In addition, we had our Dogs 414 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 4: for Freedom event because pointing out one of those main 415 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 4: incursions into our societal values. We love our dogs, We 416 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 4: treat them, we coddle them, we love them in every 417 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 4: imaginable way. And to find that this quote religion, and 418 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 4: I put it in quotes because it's in fact a 419 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 4: political ideology aimed at global dominance, wrapped in a religion 420 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 4: that it wants to take away your dogs. It sounds 421 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 4: so hysterical. Whenever I say these things, it sounds histrionic 422 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 4: and hyperbolic, and I'm making stuff up. We are not. 423 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 4: And again that Mom DAMMI got elected, I think also 424 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 4: was a wake up call. So we've brought all those 425 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 4: pieces together. Watching what's happened in Europe, because it's not imagined. 426 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 4: It's watching what's been happening here with epic city, watch 427 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 4: what's been happening here with the schools, Watching what's been 428 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 4: happening throughout the country, these various kinds of invasions. The 429 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 4: time to stop it is now, and I believe that 430 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 4: we were very very effective in making all these points 431 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 4: in Texas, and I think Texas this has been said 432 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 4: if they went after Texas, because if you get Texas, 433 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 4: you get the nation. We knew the exact counterpoint. If 434 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 4: we don't save Texas, we lose the nation. And I 435 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 4: think Texans understood that implicitly. Whether or not they get 436 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 4: the details of what Sharia is or exactly what Islam is, 437 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 4: this is an attack on our way of life, on 438 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 4: our Judeo Christian values, on our children, on our girls, 439 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 4: on our women, on our pets. It's an absolute invasion, 440 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 4: an attack, and an attempt to subvert Islam means submission. 441 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 4: That is not who we are and that is so 442 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 4: certainly not what Texans are. And it's been marvelous being 443 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 4: here in Texas and just breathing the fresh air and 444 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 4: being part of this team current. 445 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, at points that will drill down on with as 446 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: it happens, Your senior fellow and one of our most 447 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: important contributors, Peter mcklevn as shortly is this is the 448 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: playbook that we see operating in Europe exactly among other 449 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: places and for that matter, other parts of this country. 450 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: And I did want to just tie this off with 451 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: that question to you. We're back, and so I'm delighted 452 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: to say, is one of our friends from across the pond, 453 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: Peter macklven, one of our duty experts on the United 454 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: Kingdom where he resides, but also this of the world 455 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: more generally, it's fair to say, looked at through the 456 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: perspective of a brit yes, but also that of a 457 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: freedom fighter. Peter works with another great one, Lord Malcolm Pearson, 458 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: in the House of Lords. He co hosts with him 459 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: a podcast called Hearts of Oak, and works there at 460 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: a think tank of the same name as its executive director. 461 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: Peter is a senior fellow of our friend Karen Sigamann's 462 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: wonderful institution about which we were speaking a moment ago, 463 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: the American Freedom Alliance, and has been an incredible ally 464 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: both in terms of raising awareness about well the trajectory 465 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: that Sharia supremacists have in mind for all of us 466 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: as it is now being charted by the people of 467 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: Britain sadly, but also what it portends for us as well, 468 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: we'll start with the first with Peter in this first block, 469 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: and the second and the second Peter, welcome back. 470 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 5: It's so good to have you with us, Always good 471 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 5: to speak with you, Frank. 472 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: So give us an update, Peter. You have been warning 473 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: about the continuing encroachments of Sharia in the United Kingdom, 474 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: from halal foods to rape gangs to you know, electoral 475 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: g had that is brought into positions of power Sharia's 476 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: supremacists pretty much across the country as I understand it. 477 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: What's the latest update for us on that front, and 478 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: why it should better to Americans. 479 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 5: Well, sometimes, Frank, when I join you, I think I'm 480 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 5: not sure what else to bring, and then you realize 481 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 5: there's so much has happened since we last spoke, every 482 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 5: single week so and why they should be a concern 483 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 5: to Americans is because the UK is an example of 484 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 5: what we'll happened to the US unless you act sooner. 485 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 5: We'll talk about that a little bit later, but in 486 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 5: terms of the UK, just over the last week we've 487 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 5: had the call to prayer ring out in Old Trafford, 488 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 5: which is Manchester United's soccer stadium, probably one of the 489 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 5: most recognizable names in the world. Manchester United one of 490 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 5: the global entities in world football, and it had the 491 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 5: call to prayer by the Manchester United Supporters Association and 492 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 5: divided people. This is all about conquest, which Frank you 493 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 5: talked to the viewers and listeners time and time again, 494 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 5: and then a day later we had. 495 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: Just before you leave that pier. Is that because there 496 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: were large numbers of Muslims in the stands in the 497 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: stadium that day or was it just an active sort 498 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: of submission more generally an act of submission. 499 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 5: This is not about now where Manchester United are is 500 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 5: a strongly Islamic area, but that doesn't correspond into supporters 501 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 5: at those football games or the soccer games. That's traditionally 502 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 5: been a white working class model of support, so you 503 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 5: don't normally have many bearded mulla's appear at the latest 504 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 5: soccer games. It is a different world. So it is 505 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 5: about submission. Sadly, what we have seen amongst are white 506 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 5: liberal elite is other submission to Islam. And then do you. 507 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: Think this will be a feature going forward in these games? 508 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: Oh? 509 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 5: I think so because just across the way is Liverpool 510 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 5: Manchester Liverpool being the two. I guess economic powerhouses in 511 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 5: the northwest of England. Manchester United, Liverpool Football Club, the 512 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 5: two football entities soccer these over the last forty years. 513 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 5: Really that the two names in English soccer sports and Liverpool. 514 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 5: A day later had the same thing. They called to 515 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 5: prayer across anfield which is the Liverpool Stadium. Once again, 516 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 5: this is not about a large Muslim group coming in. 517 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 5: This is about the submission and hatred of Englishness and 518 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 5: our heritage in our history, all of that. So we 519 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 5: had those two and then yes yesterday, I think yesterday, 520 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 5: I was in Tuesday, I was in Parliament and they 521 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 5: had the if Tar, which is the breaking of the 522 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 5: fastnine Alframadan. So in Islam they fast from morning to 523 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 5: evening when the sun goes up to when the sun 524 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,479 Speaker 5: goes down, and Frank what we would call it skipping lunch. 525 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 5: That's generally what we would call it, because when you 526 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 5: look at the end of the fast, it is a 527 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 5: feast of huge proportions, how much food you can shove 528 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 5: into your body. That this is not about a fast. 529 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 5: This is about indulgence over indulgence. And yeah, as we 530 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 5: would say, maybe you don't get lunch one day. Islam 531 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 5: has a whole ideology based around that, and they broke 532 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 5: that fast in Parliament and I was there on Tuesday 533 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 5: and didn't have time to hang around. But of course 534 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 5: our pathetic example of a Prime Minister quar storm wher 535 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 5: he was there saying how much he cared about Muslims 536 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 5: and of course fitting that into what was happening in 537 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 5: Iran and why the UK were not involved in that. 538 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 5: So so many issues happening around that. So that's the 539 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 5: way have had just in the last week. And then 540 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 5: we're still winning on the rid Gang inquiry, the Groomy 541 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 5: Gang in quiry. The government promised supposedly this month in 542 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 5: More we will have the terms for that inquiry. It's 543 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 5: going to cost sixty million, so eighty million dollars it's 544 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 5: going to cost. And the victims don't get any of 545 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 5: this money. It is simply the legal experts money in 546 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 5: their pockets. It is a disgusting way of seeking supposed 547 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 5: justice whenever the girls, the victims of which they're up 548 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 5: to million of them, don't get anything. So yeah, so 549 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 5: we are in a mess in the UK in terms 550 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 5: of lack of identity, in terms of lack of anchor 551 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 5: of what we mean as a culture, as a history, 552 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 5: and into that void we have let Islam come into 553 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 5: our huge sporting stadiums and into Parliament. 554 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Peter, just very quickly, we've got to take a 555 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: break at the bottom of the Yeah, this minute the 556 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: thing that is most extraordinary to my way of thinking, honestly, 557 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: and I wondered whether it's going to be part of 558 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: this investigation. Find out on the other side of this 559 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: short break is the government of Britain, at the local 560 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 1: and higher levels, apparently was aware of what was happening 561 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 1: to all these girls and did essentially nothing about it. 562 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: We'll find out, Peter, why that could possibly be and 563 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 1: its implications on the other side of this very short break. 564 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: Stay tune. We're back, and so is Peter mcelveina, the 565 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 1: executive director of Hearts of Oak in the United Kingdom. 566 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: A wonderful resource for all of us on both sides 567 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 1: of the pond. This a great friend as well as 568 00:37:54,880 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: a great freedom fighter. And Peter, we're just leaving our 569 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,959 Speaker 1: audience with this incredible proposition that we actually have seen 570 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: the government of the United Kingdom knowing of the rape 571 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: of maybe as many as a million of its girls. 572 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: British working class girls mostly, I guess, and not just 573 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: rape once, but serially raped and exploited sexually, you know, 574 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: by numbers of men and so on. This is such 575 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 1: an outrageous thing. And your friend and min Tommy Robinson 576 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: is in the United States here talking about it, but 577 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: just remind us how that fits into the larger sharia 578 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 1: agenda and why, especially as we're talking about it making 579 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: inroads in our country, it is imperative that we understand 580 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: the threat it represents. 581 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 5: Well, this is happening in the UK, in German, in 582 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 5: Sweden and France, and it has to be happening in 583 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 5: the US and it will be exposed. And this is 584 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 5: the mass rip of white English girls by Muslim Pakistani families. 585 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 5: And this has been going on for fifty plus years. 586 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 5: The police have turned the blind eye. We've had whole consuls, 587 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 5: political consoles resign and get voted in again on mass 588 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 5: We've had the police filming dozens and dozens of these 589 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 5: girls for hours and then losing all the footage and 590 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 5: then telling the girls if you want to do something, 591 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 5: you need to come in and relive that horri again 592 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 5: and again. It is perverse, it is sick, It is horrendous, 593 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 5: what we do to these girls, all in the name 594 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 5: of diversity, of not wanting to be called Islamophobic and racist, 595 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 5: and therefore we lose this footage. We collapse cases, many, 596 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 5: many cases. The legal system have been actively collapsed, so 597 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 5: these men do not come to justice, and we've seen 598 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 5: over five hundred of them jailed and imprisoned in abysmally 599 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 5: short sentences. But I really do believe there are thousands 600 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 5: of thousands of others that actually have been kept away 601 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 5: by the system and protected. So you need to for 602 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 5: the US, you need to look at what is happening 603 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 5: in the UK. This is what Islam does when it 604 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 5: begins to dominate, when it begins to put foot by 605 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 5: foot by foot on every institution in society. And we've 606 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 5: seen the collapse of our societies out of the fear 607 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 5: of Islamophobia. 608 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 1: Really do you think that could happen here, Peter? And 609 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: if you could tie this into the importance that you 610 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: attached to a proposition ten that has just passed overwhelmingly 611 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: in Great Britain, excuse me, Great Britain. 612 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 5: In Great Texas, Frank, I wish we had a prop 613 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 5: ten in Great Britain. I will take that as a 614 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 5: statement as a prophetic statement, and so I am I 615 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 5: am so excited. Ninety five percent of Texans voting for 616 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 5: prop ten to ban Sharia, to prohibit Sharia in Texas, 617 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 5: just under two million Texans. Is it is seismic. It 618 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 5: is really seismic. And I did believe this would pass 619 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 5: as you did, Frank, I wasn't expecting that large number. 620 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 5: You know, a win is a win, but that level 621 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 5: of wind is phenomenal, and that will to me, this 622 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 5: is the beginning. We've got the whole midterms. This is 623 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 5: a line in the sand. This is from Texans saying 624 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 5: we are going to have one law and that is 625 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 5: American law. We are not going to have competing legal systems. 626 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 5: Islamic Sharia law has no place in the US for Texas. Now, 627 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 5: we need to have that ripple out, and we need 628 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 5: every politician to see this as an issue they need 629 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 5: to stand on. My concern prior to this has been 630 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 5: that politicians can skirt it and say, you know, it's 631 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 5: the economy, it's immigration. From the Republican side, we don't 632 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 5: need to hit on Islam. It's not an issue. This 633 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 5: is an issue. Texas have spoken and Texas will be 634 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 5: no different to many other states across the US that 635 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 5: are concerned at the mass change in their societies through 636 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 5: mass immigration from Islamic nations that are changing their areas, 637 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 5: changing their communities, and demanding halal food, demanding shar records, 638 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 5: demanding most demanding with madrasas linked to it, et cetera, 639 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera, and then Sharia finance which will 640 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 5: come from above with the financial institution. So this is 641 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 5: this is massive and although this is only an advice proposition, 642 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 5: I think Frank, we both agree that this has massive 643 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 5: implications because it demands every politician stands up and looks 644 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 5: at this and recognizes the level of frustration with Americans 645 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 5: at what is happening with Islamization of America and they 646 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 5: need to speak into this. So I would all your 647 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 5: viewers and listeners, I would call them to make sure 648 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 5: you use this and engage with your representative, tell them 649 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 5: this is a vital issue, and tell them this has 650 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 5: to be a campaign issue for your member wherever they 651 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 5: are at the local level the national level. This has 652 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 5: to be a key area. And of course, Frank, your 653 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 5: website bancherade dot com fits a lot of these issues. 654 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 5: In and if people want to go to understand this issue, 655 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 5: they just need to go to bancharide dot com. 656 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for the plug, Peter. And just to 657 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: make it clear, you spoke of the national level. Given 658 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 1: what you've been experiencing in Britain, given what you see 659 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: taking place here from your visits, your forensic examinations of 660 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: what's foot in this country, would you say that it 661 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: is imperative that similarly the other states of our Union 662 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: take these kinds of steps as well. 663 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 5: One we have seen so we have seen New York, California, 664 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 5: and Texas. Those are the top three in terms of elamization, 665 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 5: in terms of moss growth, in terms of halal food growth, 666 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,919 Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera. And we have issues with New York. 667 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 5: Of course, we will see what happens as Steve Hilton 668 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 5: naturally does well in California's a governor. I don't know 669 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 5: much about that. I am so excited about what was 670 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 5: hammling in Texas, and that is that there's a statement 671 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 5: to the rest of every state within America that you 672 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 5: need to take notice. We know Florida with DeSantis and 673 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 5: the great work he is doing in combating that, but 674 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 5: then we also know the work that Care are involved in. 675 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 5: Just because of a proposition. Care don't actually shut up 676 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 5: shop and think, actually this is done. The Muslim brotherhood 677 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 5: and their entities, they don't be quiet. We need to 678 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 5: fight this day in day out until the end of these. 679 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: And I must leave it at that with that very 680 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: important admonition. Thank you, Peter, come back with much more 681 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,919 Speaker 1: in near future. Thanks to all of you have joined 682 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 1: us next time. Until then, go forth and multiply