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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 1: in Jillette Stadium, and uh, yeah, we're getting ready for

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Speaker 3: Whether we're ready or not, there's a game on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, so as Evan just gave the lead,

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Speaker 1: it's got to be Bailey, right.

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Speaker 4: It seems like yeah, yeah, Well he talked to you yesterday.

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Speaker 5: I walked up to him and said, but.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like he's officially talking at the podium today.

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Speaker 4: It seems like we're going to get a locker room.

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Speaker 5: So it doesn't matter what does it mean. But that's

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Speaker 5: not how I That's not what he said to me.

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Speaker 5: He said to me that he's talking tomorrow. You never

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Speaker 3: Did you invent that?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: Because I did see on my timeline everybody was saying

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So people say, oh, a few, a few reports.

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Speaker 5: practice was great. Next thing, I know, everybody is tweeting

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Speaker 5: That point, now I might as well just get the likes.

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Speaker 4: I did, like the great though, when he was a

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Speaker 5: Big smile, big smile, great practice.

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Speaker 4: Let him up, Let him up big time. They had

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Speaker 5: Well last week, you know, he hid from us per usual.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be chaos in there. I mean, there were

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Speaker 4: For me, it's just does he potentially have a little

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Speaker 4: They're gonna let him throw downfield. Does he want to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly how I look at it. If with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So yeah, I think it would be an

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Speaker 4: I just think coming off of last year, there was

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Speaker 3: I think there's something to that.

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Speaker 4: I do too, But I think this year is kind

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Speaker 4: of under were talking about Bailey Zappi. Yeah, it's just

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Speaker 4: this year it didn't he didn't seem as much of a

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Speaker 3: A little different. And here's why I will be defensive

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Speaker 3: of the Zappiites, you know, but you know they're not Macalyites.

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Speaker 3: So I do think there's a difference. And we said

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Speaker 1: Of what you're looking at, you know what. His two

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Speaker 1: was almost like a West Coast offense. It was like,

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Speaker 1: Whoa, that was the best game he's ever played. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I like was really like studying their tape, so I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure it was not what it just Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: they used more play action. Well it worked, you know,

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Speaker 5: The the one thing I will give Zappy, amongst some

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Speaker 5: other things. I agree with the guys here that getting

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Speaker 1: That's a huge difference.

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Speaker 5: It's a huge difference now that they're gonna go into

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Speaker 5: think a couple of things that Bailey Zappi clearly does

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Speaker 5: better than Mac is ball fakes. I think he's a

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Speaker 1: It just wasn't.

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Speaker 5: But the play action stuff was off the charts good.

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Speaker 5: He had a perfect passer rating. Off play action last

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Speaker 1: And how much of that was yards after catch? Not

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get my barbecue sauce on these these

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Speaker 1: We'll be giving away that at halftime. And then what

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Speaker 1: this is her design and mass General Brigham logo in

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Speaker 4: She's got the same size feet as tease.

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Speaker 4: I think my son might want one. He's an anime guy.

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Speaker 3: Can I can I just like I Do'm not. I

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Speaker 5: I think that Doug was the first one that I

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Speaker 3: People like I, I often get snarky with the media.

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Speaker 1: You know, the way they portrayed it on the show

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Speaker 1: That's how he was telling us.

439
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Speaker 3: Yeah, That's what Burt Breer criticizes a lot, is that

440
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Speaker 3: after he does his press conference, then he lets the

441
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Speaker 3: information out there so he doesn't have to answer what.

442
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Speaker 1: What do we always say? Watch what they do, not

443
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Speaker 1: what they say. And what they did yesterday was give

444
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Speaker 1: us a little glimpse into something that they wanted us

445
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Speaker 1: to see for whatever reason, whether it's a slight of

446
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Speaker 1: hand or here's your answers, stop asking.

447
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Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of dramatic. I mean to have

448
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Speaker 4: Molee cunning him out there and think, look, Mazon even

449
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 4: taking the second reps, like it's dramatic that the pace.

450
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Speaker 1: But I think that's the way to go. I think

451
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Speaker 1: you make a clean break you you don't put on today.

452
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Speaker 3: And I thought Evan brought that up yesterday on the show,

453
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Speaker 3: like if if you're not going to start mac, you

454
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Speaker 3: might be better off just having him inactive. Ye yeah,

455
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Speaker 3: but do you But what about the Cunningham part of it.

456
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Speaker 5: The Cunningham thing is so weird to me because so

457
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,880
Speaker 5: he's been based off of you know what Troy Brown said.

458
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Speaker 5: I think Bill O'Brien said something similar. Even Bill kind

459
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Speaker 5: of touched it on it a little bit about his

460
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Speaker 5: majority of the time he's been with the receivers, he

461
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 5: has done a little bit in the quarterback room, but

462
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 5: at practice he's really only practicing quarterback on the scout

463
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Speaker 5: team when they're facing a mobile quarterback. Other than that,

464
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,199
Speaker 5: it's been all and he didn't look ready against the

465
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Speaker 5: Raiders to play even in like a package of plays

466
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Speaker 5: at all. Yeah, right, and so what what's the I

467
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 5: just don't understand what the what the point?

468
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Speaker 1: But we also don't know what they've been doing with

469
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Speaker 1: him since then, Like has he continued to you know,

470
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Speaker 1: get through.

471
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Speaker 3: Because you go back to your line, right, you can't

472
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Speaker 3: just go there're telling us that all he does is

473
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Speaker 3: wide receiver, but maybe that's not accurate.

474
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know they said that he plays some quarterback

475
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Speaker 5: and he's in the quarterback rooms sometimes, you know. But

476
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Speaker 5: I just think that ultimately, like to what end are

477
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Speaker 5: you doing that? And maybe they they signed Rope Will

478
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Speaker 5: grew back to the practice squad. Malik is currently on

479
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 5: the practice squad. So either way there, if Mac is

480
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Speaker 5: not going to be the second quarter the backup quarterback,

481
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Speaker 5: they have to elevate somebody from the practice squad to

482
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Speaker 5: play to be the backup quarterback. So if it's Greer,

483
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Speaker 5: if it's Cunningham, I still think that jury is out.

484
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Speaker 5: I'm not ready to say it's going to lak.

485
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Speaker 4: I'm more and more like the idea though, just not

486
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Speaker 4: having out there. So if it goes rough with Bailey Zappy, right, yeah,

487
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to go back to like we can't

488
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Speaker 4: like just let him ride it and then maybe Cunningham

489
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 4: fickles really bad. Maybe, but I don't know.

490
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Speaker 3: Was career at practice yesterday? He was in the locker room,

491
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Speaker 3: he was I know he was back, but I didn't

492
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Speaker 3: know if you they didn't.

493
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Speaker 5: They announced the transaction at the end of the day,

494
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Speaker 5: so I'd assume he was out there because remember I

495
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Speaker 5: came in and I thought it was well at first,

496
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Speaker 5: I got my numbers confused.

497
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was out there. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, okay.

498
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Speaker 3: Then I got thrown off because I was seeing like

499
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 3: video in the quarter I was looking at Zappie and

500
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Speaker 3: he had like looked like a black jersey because and

501
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Speaker 3: I was like, is that like one of the practice squad?

502
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not practice squad, practice player of the week.

503
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Speaker 3: And I was like, oh no, no, no, they're in there.

504
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't win last week.

505
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Speaker 5: Were in the red practice sleepy?

506
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Speaker 3: Is that right?

507
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Speaker 4: I think so.

508
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 3: See, that's how much they win. Because when I was

509
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: at practice, there was always someone in the black jersey,

510
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Speaker 3: So I saw much that used to win.

511
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Speaker 1: Evan, You'll be going out to practice a little after

512
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Speaker 1: one and we'll see what they.

513
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Speaker 5: Want us to see today, probably stretching.

514
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: You they got to go back to just stretching.

515
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 5: Well, you get one day of that extra time for

516
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 5: the cameras to shoot b roll.

517
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Speaker 3: That's that's the Wednesday.

518
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 5: So those are the rules to buy the and we

519
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 5: should hear from NFL Writers Association or whatever it is.

520
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said, but we don't know official podium.

521
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 3: No podium scheduled. Absolutely, so if he's going to talk,

522
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 3: it's going to be Brady style in his locker, at

523
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Speaker 3: his locker.

524
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Speaker 1: That ended because of a big reason.

525
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Speaker 4: Okay, a big crowd there yesterday, though we're surprised how

526
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Speaker 4: many media contingent was there.

527
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Speaker 5: Circle and see the castle crumble, you know.

528
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we know our post game presser numbers for

529
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Speaker 1: Bill and Mack have gone way up. And it's just

530
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Speaker 1: people love seeing a car wreck. I guess, so I.

531
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Speaker 3: Do wonder too, didn't there was some I don't know

532
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 3: how much. I mean the Army Navy stuff yesterday. Maybe

533
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 3: there was media that people here in there for that

534
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Speaker 3: and they stayed and maybe that.

535
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Speaker 1: Was were there people in uniforms out there? Military?

536
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Speaker 3: Why don't mean people for kidding?

537
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 5: There was a There was a helicopter, though not not

538
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 5: mister Kraft's helicopter, Army or Navy helicopter, and it took

539
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 5: off during practice like during yeah, taking the admirals back

540
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 5: to to you know, Annapolis or whatever it was. It

541
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Speaker 5: was pretty cool. It's like one of those big like

542
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 5: Apache style held. I don't know anything about helicopter, so

543
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 5: I'm just guess called the Yeah, I have no clues, Choppa,

544
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 5: like black Hawk Down is as far as I go,

545
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 5: I don't know what it is.

546
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: All right, what else? So there's the Zappy storyline. What

547
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: else do we want to put on the table?

548
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 4: There's another Kicker signed.

549
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 3: Matthew he was he was in the locker room.

550
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Speaker 5: I'm assuming that transaction will be official today.

551
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Speaker 1: Okay, because there were a couple of signings yesterday. There

552
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: was a wide receiver and Will Greer obviously, but yeah.

553
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Kicker is not official yet. But we talked

554
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 5: about the Kicker a little bit at the end of

555
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 5: Cash twenty two. Not only did he miss the thirty

556
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 5: five yard and sendated overtime, they also wouldn't attempt a

557
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Speaker 5: fifty four yarder with him and he missed the kick

558
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 5: in Germany also from like thirty five thirty five something

559
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 5: like that. So at this point, like you have to

560
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 5: worry about the kicker having the yips, like you know,

561
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 5: maybe he's broken too. So it's that add that to

562
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Speaker 5: the list.

563
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do like the way he hands I mean,

564
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: I don't like the fact that he has to handle it, obviously,

565
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 3: but I like the way he handles it.

566
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Speaker 4: The same thing yesterday about bringing guys in.

567
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Speaker 3: Yeah, understand, I haven't been not the par I haven't

568
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 3: done the job. That's what they should be doing. I

569
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 3: think he said, just young kid, you know, he gets it.

570
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Speaker 4: Gostowski never really hit a skid and early in his

571
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 4: career did he Like I don't really remember him ever.

572
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: Well, the thing about Gaskowski is it took a while

573
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: before he had the opportunity to have those game winning kicks.

574
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,719
Speaker 1: Well that was his Thing's well, we haven't seen him

575
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: under fire yet, you know.

576
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 4: Then the O six Chargers game in the playoffs, he

577
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,239
Speaker 4: hit a big you know, big one. Yeah, but but

578
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 4: never like Adams like here it is win or lose, right.

579
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: He never had those opportunities.

580
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 4: He didn't have the Giants twenty fifteen.

581
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Speaker 3: He didn't have make or miss, win or lose for

582
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: a while.

583
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah for a while.

584
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 3: Fred's right, and you know when he had sort of

585
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: big kicks, Bill seemed to pass them up.

586
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 4: Like go for forty two, super Bowl forty two, they

587
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 4: pissed up one right.

588
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 5: Forty eight the end of the half, remember the at

589
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 5: the end of fifty three and Brady just goes over

590
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 5: to them, like, what are we doing? Yeah, says something

591
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 5: else to me that I'll say for a different probably

592
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 5: like an off season show.

593
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, the voice of Reason.

594
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not.

595
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 4: Gonna be what do we do it? There is no

596
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 4: off season anymore? This this team?

597
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: All right? What else? Anything else? Before we open up

598
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: the phones? I know, we gotta hurry here from Zappi.

599
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: We got a big week.

600
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Speaker 4: Lawrence guy had a big press conference this morning. He

601
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 4: was he's always he's bringing the fun a little bit,

602
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 4: so that's nice to offset some of the loss of

603
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 4: of Judon.

604
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 5: But the two gapping fun take on.

605
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Speaker 1: Those double it's going to be a while week. We've

606
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: got the game on Sunday, and we've got a game

607
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: on Thursday, and then we got the Army Navy on Saturday.

608
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: So this place is going to be well. The game

609
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Speaker 1: on Thursday is an away game. But yeah, busy week,

610
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: busy week.

611
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 5: Thursday games are the worst, terrible, terrible, especially when not

612
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 5: like because of me, like for the team.

613
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying because of me.

614
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I like Thursday games for myself, but I

615
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: agree with that, but they're.

616
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: They're terrible for us. I agree.

617
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 5: But having to be the road team on Thursday night

618
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 5: from a team perspective is ridiculous. Is really brutal because

619
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Speaker 5: you're losing Wednesday kind of too.

620
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 7: Now.

621
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Speaker 5: I wonder if maybe they leave late on Wednesday so

622
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 5: that they can have a full day here, because it's

623
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 5: not a far from that makes sense.

624
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 1: But still it's it's brutal. Yep, all right. Eight five

625
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: five Pats five hundred is the ACE ticket hot line.

626
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: Web radio at patries dot com is an email address.

627
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: People are lined up. Line down has been on. Let's

628
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: go to Raymond in California. What's up Raymond? Or Ramen?

629
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Speaker 1: Hello Raymond, Ramen? No, Ramen no, he's on't are you

630
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: on mute? Have you yourself?

631
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 3: Wait at all?

632
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: He's out? Patty's an agabam. What's up?

633
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 4: Patty got to wait about thirty seconds? Doing all?

634
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 3: Right?

635
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 8: A couple of quick questions and I'll take him off

636
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 8: there so you can get other guys on the First

637
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 8: one is do you think, well, what what do you

638
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 8: think the issue was with Phil? Would just say saying yeah,

639
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 8: that he's going to start. I mean, is a pride

640
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 8: at this point? I mean, the season's already lost and

641
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 8: he's not throwing anyone under the bus by by naming

642
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 8: a starting quarterback. And then the second question, I had

643
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 8: a little bit weird and complicated. And I don't know

644
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 8: if any of you guys will know this, but since

645
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 8: they wrote, you know, signed the leak to the active roster,

646
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 8: then waived them, and then re signed them to the

647
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 8: practice squad, does that replenish his practice squad elevations for

648
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 8: the like? Does he get a whole new like bunch

649
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 8: of practice finals.

650
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: I don't believe he's used any practice squad elevations. He

651
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: was signed to the roster, that's not a practice squad elevation,

652
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: so I think he still would have three of them.

653
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: They did. They signed him to the roster and that

654
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: the Raiders game, and then they ended up cutting him

655
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: and putting them back to the practice squad. That doesn't

656
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 3: count as an elevation. My question on the elevation, I

657
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: don't know. No, he went from the practice squad, so

658
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Speaker 3: I know this, this sounds kind of counterintuitive. Patty. You're

659
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: allowed I think, three, right, So you can just go

660
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 3: from the practice squad to the active roster with a

661
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: regular elevation three times. And then once you do that

662
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: three times, they either have to sign you to the

663
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: active roster or you have to stay on the practice

664
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Speaker 3: squad the rest of the way, or you can just

665
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: choose to sign a player from the practice squad to

666
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: the active roster. And that's what they did with Malie

667
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: Cunningham for that Raiders game. Remember much was made of

668
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: the three year contract, which is standard entry level contract.

669
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,479
Speaker 3: But beside the point, yeah, and started for three so

670
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: he could conceivably be elevated to the practice squad this

671
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: time around three times if they chose to do it.

672
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: And that was the only thing I was wondering about,

673
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: is do you have any limit on the amount of

674
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 3: different individuals that can be used for elevations. Three times

675
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: you can use I don't think as many as you want, right, Yeah, yep,

676
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: I know.

677
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 4: I mean Connor McDermott is now promoted. He was three

678
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 4: timer months and is that three times he's been sitting there.

679
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 5: Everybody else from the practice squad, not off the top,

680
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 5: has been on.

681
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: The has been on the Yeah, so.

682
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 4: Went to three and then they.

683
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're gonna have to elevate a quarterback obviously, so

684
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 5: it'll be interesting to see, you know which one is.

685
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: Well, I mean they don't have to.

686
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 5: Well, Mac dresses at the backup, right, Yeah. I would

687
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 5: expect them to elevate a quarterback.

688
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: I would too, but cunning him over, that's that's the question.

689
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I I you wonder if they set

690
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: it up exactly like they did net Raiders game, like

691
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: we're gonna have Cunning him as the backup so we

692
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: can use him and then Greer is the emergency, or

693
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 3: you could just have all three of them dressed.

694
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 4: I mean, what about what about targeting the Chargers run

695
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 4: game a little bit with some Elik plays part of it.

696
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 5: If you're gonna if Malik is active and is the

697
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 5: one that's promoted, then it has to be with a

698
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 5: package of plays in mind to use him. It would

699
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 5: make no sense to have him be the active just

700
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 5: as the backup quarterback because he's not fully ready to.

701
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: Playcat, you know, like get him out there.

702
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: That's all. Yeah, I agree with Evan. I think that's

703
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: all it could be.

704
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 5: Right, So if you need a That's why the Raider

705
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 5: game was so ridiculous.

706
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: Because something happened to Mac, you would.

707
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 1: Have screwed right.

708
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 5: And Mike on Winn was was there, was active on

709
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 5: an emergency basis and and didn't play a single snap

710
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 5: in the game and just in in Vegas and just

711
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 5: stood there the whole time, and they left themselves in

712
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 5: a pinch at quarterback.

713
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. What was your first question, Patty?

714
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 8: Just what do you think the issue with Belichick is

715
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 8: at this point with not naming a starting quarterbacks because

716
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 8: he's not really throwing anyone under the bus.

717
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: And I mean, yeah, I think you know, I don't know,

718
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

719
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like he there is precedent for him

720
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: doing that, you know, Cam Newton, you know.

721
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 3: I would say this is unprecedented. What are you doing?

722
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: Well? And and I think what he's telling us is

723
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: that Mac Jones has done nothing in my eyes for

724
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: me to declare him the guy, and so I'm not

725
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: gonna do it, you.

726
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 4: Know, going back to Mac him playing this league, like

727
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: I feel like he's been playing this game a little bit.

728
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: More than he's done nothing in my eyes to you know.

729
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: So then they anoint him the quarterback.

730
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 3: So because none of the quarterbacks have done enough in

731
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: his eyes to be naming him the starting quarterback, He's

732
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: just gonna throw a dart at the wall on Sunday

733
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: and whoever lands on is the starter.

734
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: No, that's not that's the point.

735
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: But people just ask him who's starting on Sunday? Right,

736
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: But no one's asking him. You know, Bill, you got

737
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: to make a commitment now for the next five years.

738
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 3: Who's your starter? I get that. Well, maybe Sunday someone's

739
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: got to start, I know, But I won't he tell.

740
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: Anybody because maybe he wants Matt to be always be

741
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: under that pressure that listen, you screw up on Friday

742
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: and you may not play on Sunday. You know, I

743
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: don't know.

744
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: That's as good a reason is. I don't have a

745
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: single reason, not as good as anything reason is.

746
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 5: So Brandon Staley did his press conference yesterday and Staley

747
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 5: said that they're preparing for all three quarterbacks like they

748
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 5: could start in the game because they don't know who

749
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 5: the starter is going to be. I truly think that

750
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 5: he thinks it's a competitive advantage.

751
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: I would argue that it takes away your advantage if

752
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: you if you name a quarterback he's there is less

753
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: likely that the opponent's going to prepare for more than one.

754
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: And now if you use more than one, I think

755
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: you have a chance. I think the Giants were very

756
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: prepared for Bailey Zappy being in that game the other day.

757
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying because of the way the week.

758
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 5: But when when Brennon Staley said that that they have

759
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 5: to prepare for all three quarterbacks and they're studying all

760
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 5: three quarter I was like, oh, well, now we're never

761
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 5: going to get an answer from Bill because he thinks

762
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Speaker 5: that it's a competitive advantage.

763
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: What he does think of it. I think every team

764
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: looks at the roster and says, what if this guy plays?

765
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 1: What if that guy plays?

766
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 3: Bill says it all the time, right, but you limit.

767
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: It like it's like you know, but you you know,

768
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: you run a few plays as if that person's in,

769
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: but it's limited.

770
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: Like so if you really want in all seriousness, like

771
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: and I get it, Evan's got it. This is probably

772
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: what it is in Bill's mind. But if you really

773
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: wanted to get a competitive advantage, right, wouldn't the potential

774
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: for the biggest competitive advantage would be to unveil Malie Cunningham.

775
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 3: So wouldn't wouldn't you be better served to just continue

776
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 3: with him on your practice squad, wait thirty more seconds

777
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: for Evan and the boys to leave, and then have

778
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 3: him go through the week. So you have this package

779
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 3: of plays, and no one's none the wiser, right, and

780
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: all of a sudden you put him out there like

781
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: way back when Fred you know, all my all my

782
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 3: references are at least twenty years old in Atlanta, when

783
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 3: Matt Schob couldn't play, and all of a sudden, myke,

784
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: I think it was Matt Schob and Michael Vick. No,

785
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: all the way around, Michael Vick was hurt, and you're

786
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 3: preparing for Michael Vick the whole day, and then Matt

787
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: Schob comes off the bench and throw us to like

788
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty yards. Remember how up in arms.

789
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 9: He was.

790
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: They lied on the injury report and this and that

791
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 3: because we didn't prepare except for he always tells us,

792
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 3: we prepare for everything.

793
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: Well, remember in Cleveland, was it Brady they had him

794
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: warm up inside? No, it was Bledsoe a blods, was

795
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: it Bloodstone?

796
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: That was true? Do you ever see that? Let me

797
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: say the locker room in there because he had the

798
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 3: finger thing it was what was this? What happened in

799
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 3: ninety In two thousand he had Bledsoe warm up in

800
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: Cleveland in the locker room.

801
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 5: Well, he had Malik warm up in the locker room

802
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 5: in Vegan.

803
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: Because they didn't want you don't want you know, you know,

804
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: around to see.

805
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: But because seriously, like if you wanted to have Brandon

806
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 3: Stale league perhaps prepared, right, just prepare for the guy

807
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: who's gonna start. But yeah, he's going to start, but

808
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: I have this other thing that he's not even gonna

809
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 3: have any ideas coming, right, wouldn't that be a bigger

810
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 3: competitive advantage? Yeah?

811
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 5: And that it goes back to like now there's there's

812
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 5: these reports that Malik Is could play in some capacity, Like.

813
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 3: Why would now the other team prepares for it. They

814
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 3: just prepared for Lamar Jackson last week. Yeah, yeah, oh,

815
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: good point, and they shut him down, by the way,

816
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 3: and Malie Cuttingham is just as good as Lamar Jackson.

817
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: Oh he broke all his records. And I don't know

818
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: if you know in seven.

819
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: Years, let's see, Paul writes in Oh No, it's Joe

820
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: his email says Paul is signature, says Joe and Walpole.

821
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: Nothing like the losing season to bring out the Bozos.

822
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: Early draft talk from uninformed callers looking for info that

823
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: isn't available yet, insisting on Cunningham as quarterback when it's

824
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: been widely reported he's not practicing at quarterback.

825
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 3: Stupid until this week.

826
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, who are the callers? Have you ever considered going

827
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: all email note calls? Most of the callers stink and

828
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: are not entertaining. And then he goes down the list.

829
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: Give us a couple of good well, he says, Eldridge

830
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: Christian with a T, I, A N and sweet kid

831
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: get it, they're good, Okay, just because ald wide receivers.

832
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: And then big big and again our loyal listeners. This

833
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: is Joe and Walpole saying it. Bozo's like Todd Christian

834
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: in La Willem and Philip can pound san them and others.

835
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: I would pay a premium to never hear again. Wow,

836
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: hard words, Joe, that's rude emailer on caller crime.

837
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: Yes, the emailers are more uh more astute.

838
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 5: Well, the emailers have time to write out an email

839
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 5: like it's like I.

840
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: Still can't read it. It's not really in English most

841
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: of the time.

842
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 5: It's like a text in a phone call.

843
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: You know. That's why people like text Zeke and Chelmsford.

844
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: I have this weird feeling that we're going to be

845
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: extremely let down the response to this season. I can't

846
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: shake this thought that we are going to keep Bill

847
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: and he's gonna sell Craft on the biggest issue being

848
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, and he's gonna bring in I hate

849
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: to even bring up his name again, Jimmy g in

850
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: the wake of the changes in Vegas. Please God no,

851
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: but I find this to be a realistic and unsettling outcome.

852
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 5: So let's play this out. Because I agree to an

853
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 5: extent that we should probably be more prepared for the

854
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 5: fact that Bill could talk his way back into another season.

855
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 5: I yep, if you were told if Bill you're Robert

856
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 5: Craft and Bill sits you down and says Robert, the

857
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 5: quarterback was the biggest issue with the team this year.

858
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 5: We're going to replace the quarterback. And he actually puts together,

859
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 5: like puts in front of you a good plan of

860
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 5: replacing said quarterback in terms of the games individually. Is

861
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 5: he all that wrong that the quarterback's been the biggest problem,

862
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 5: like just in terms of the games? How they've all

863
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 5: unfolded now? But we all agree with like the philosophical

864
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 5: stuff up top, that the roster hasn't been good. The

865
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 5: philosophy of winning games thirteen to ten isn't good. But

866
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 5: in Bill's mind, I one hundred percent agree that he

867
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 5: thinks a quarterback is the reason why they're losing ball security.

868
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, if they if they have.

869
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: I have no doubt that that's what he thinks. Oh

870
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, So.

871
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: I'm putting them in a position to play to win

872
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: and the quarterback is screwing it.

873
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: Up ball security. He looks at bounce of a ball.

874
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: The game.

875
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 5: The game in Germany is a W if he hits

876
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 5: Micah Sicki for the game winning touchdown. The game last

877
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 5: week is a W because they only gave up ten points.

878
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 5: The game against the Eagles is a win. Because they

879
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 5: score at the you know, like he's going to convince

880
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 5: himself of that, and I think he already has and

881
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 5: I'm not rolling out that he convinces ownership of that.

882
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

883
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 3: So it's funny when I was on my show yesterday,

884
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 3: Fred and I'm driving, you know, I drive home, I

885
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 3: get home, of course, you know it's an hour on.

886
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: So you do the thing that you should never do.

887
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: You go on Twitter and one guy I didn't. It

888
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: was just one person in fairness, and it was like,

889
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: are you guys going to be ready to offer a

890
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:18,479
Speaker 3: written apology for openly wondering where Bill might coach next year?

891
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 3: And I started thinking, it's my opinion that Bill's not

892
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: going to be back in New England next year. And

893
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 3: my reason for that opinion has as much to do

894
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 3: with I don't think Bill really wants to stay as

895
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: anything else. But if I'm wrong, which I have been

896
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 3: many many times over the span of twenty five years,

897
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 3: why do I have to apologize for thinking that he's

898
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 3: not going to be an opinion? Like I don't really

899
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: understand that, like what this person thinking is going to happen?

900
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: He thinks Bill staying.

901
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: It's not written apology.

902
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 3: It's kind of like it's much ado about nothing. I

903
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 3: can't believe you clowns are even talking about this, that's

904
00:40:59,320 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: the way it's.

905
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

906
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 5: I was told that I needed to apologize for selling

907
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 5: people on mac Jones, that it's my.

908
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: Fault that matter.

909
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 3: Well I agree with that.

910
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 5: So here here's my mia kulpa to all those people.

911
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 5: I'm sorry that I told you last year that I

912
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 5: didn't think mac Jones is the problem.

913
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: When I remember saying in year one, I'm very happy

914
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: that he's our quarterback. And I said it at the

915
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: time and I meant it.

916
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I think even I would have said I

917
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: think he had a solid rookie year. Yeah, you know,

918
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 3: and I have been probably as anti in that regard

919
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 3: as anybody. But you know, when you talk about Bill

920
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 3: sort of selling Robert on the on the note like

921
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 3: you know, it's a quarterback and it'd be it's gonna

922
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: be really interesting, like all those people. And this is

923
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: not directed at you, because you have not been like

924
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: this with mac Jones, but there have been a lot

925
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 3: of our colleagues that have that still do it. Somebody

926
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: did it today and I again I would blame them

927
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 3: if I could remember, but I have cte. Someone was

928
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: like the highlights of like the Dallas game.

929
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 4: His rookie year, oh yeah yeah.

930
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: And comparing it to the Dallas game this year, It's

931
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: amazing how they broke him this fast. I'm just like,

932
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: can we just stop with the they broke him?

933
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: Like?

934
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: I understand that the Patriots and Bill Belichick specifically didn't

935
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 3: do everything right. I understand that they share responsibility for

936
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: the situation that the Patriots are in, But can we

937
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 3: just say that the guy didn't play well without every

938
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 3: single qualifier that goes along with it. But so that's

939
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 3: gonna be funny if all of a sudden Bill gets

940
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 3: to stay and all of these people are gonna have

941
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 3: to embrace another quarterback because you guys have been telling

942
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: me it's all Bill's fault for two years, and now

943
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to embrace another quarterback.

944
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: Came right back.

945
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 3: We talked about he came right back and should have

946
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: thrown another one, but the guy misjudged it.

947
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: We talk about the nature of these games, how many

948
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: What would the Patriots record be this year if a

949
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: what forty seven year old Tom Brady was quarterbacking?

950
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 10: Oh see, but but that that that's My point, right

951
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 10: is that, like I think he really feels like if

952
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 10: he just had a guy that was managing games and

953
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 10: wasn't turning the ball over like crazy and was making

954
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 10: the most of the opportunities that they that O'Brien and

955
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 10: every you know, were presenting to themselves, that they that

956
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 10: they would be a playoff team, that they would be

957
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 10: right there, and I there's not.

958
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 5: It's not completely illogical.

959
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not. No, But again, you're coaching, you're trying,

960
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: you're building and coaching a team that is living on

961
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: the edge like that, like the slightest mistake you can't win.

962
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 5: That would be my point. Yeah, And that That's where

963
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 5: I'm coming from with it. I just think that to

964
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 5: Paul's you know, they broke him. They mentally he is

965
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 5: broken and and they have to own up for their

966
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 5: share of that. But I think ultimately what the biggest

967
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 5: thing is is that they knew who they drafted, or

968
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 5: they should have known who they drafted when they drafted

969
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 5: mac Jones. He was not good enough when they drafted

970
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 5: him to be somebody that was el of the offense

971
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 5: to an offense that was going to be good enough

972
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 5: to win in the playoffs. Or make the playoffs even

973
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 5: and they never upgraded the pieces around him to mimic

974
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 5: that they they operated with the pieces around him like

975
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 5: he was Tom Brady. You know, we'll get you. We'll

976
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 5: get you a second round receiver. We'll get you, you know,

977
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 5: a discount and free agency receiver, Kendrick Bourne, you know

978
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 5: those types of players. When they drafted Mac Jones, the

979
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 5: plan should have been, we're going to be the team

980
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 5: that trades for aj Brown, or we're going to be

981
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 5: the team that trades for Tyree Killen, We're going to

982
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 5: be the team that drafts a receiver in the top

983
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 5: twenty and all these different things. And instead they they

984
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 5: went dollar store shopping at it and thought that the

985
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 5: quarterback was gonna make it all better, and they didn't

986
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 5: draft that guy.

987
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, Travis in West Virginia says, I bought the game

988
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: day poster for the Germany game, but it wasn't signed

989
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: or numbered and there was no certificate of authenticity. Is

990
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: that normal for that one?

991
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 9: It was?

992
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: It was a German artist. We couldn't arrange for him

993
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: to be in frank for he was in Berlin, and

994
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: so you paid less for that one. I'm guessing I

995
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: know you did, and it wasn't signed in number, so

996
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: that was okay. You got what you were supposed to get.

997
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 4: It's really good one. I like that one.

998
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, I wanted to give a shout out to

999
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: Pat n Agawam. He brings so much energy this show.

1000
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: Not he didn't really say yes he did. It's right here?

1001
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: What's the rest? Says? I love listener on listener crimes,

1002
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: I do too little of it these days, so I

1003
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: was distraught that Joan Walpole didn't include me on either

1004
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: as good or bad list. I must be injured or

1005
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: total non irrelevance.

1006
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: Screw you. You don't want to be irrelevant.

1007
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: He was just worried about your heart. A little Speed.

1008
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 5: Recovery SPI's also turned into an emailer, Yeah he hasn't

1009
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 5: you know? He's been emailing.

1010
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: I've heard span other shows too, which I don't like,

1011
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: Cheat which I don't like. But Speed's and Recovery they

1012
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: want to take it easy and let's go back to

1013
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: the ace ticket outline. Mario is in New Bedford, Hey, Mario.

1014
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: Hey, how's it going? Fellows?

1015
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: Are a good caller or a bad caller?

1016
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 7: Oh my god? This pressure I'm listening on the phone.

1017
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 7: I'm actually a first time.

1018
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: Caller, okaying first TI, I'm.

1019
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 7: A caller, and I'm like Jesus, now I got the

1020
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 7: pressure on me. But I actually just wanted a call

1021
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 7: to say that, uh, you guys have mede me. I

1022
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 7: feel like become more of a past fan. I've been

1023
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 7: a lifelong pass fan of a season ticket holder, but

1024
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 7: listening to the show. Unfortunately, I just started listening this year.

1025
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 7: It's been a rough year, but just the energy you

1026
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 7: guys bring day in, day out, I really do appreciate it.

1027
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 7: I want to give a shout out to Mike. He

1028
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 7: his hands down my favorite person on the panel. I

1029
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,479
Speaker 7: love you all, but his comedy and humor just gets

1030
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 7: me every time. So a shout out plus his wicked answer.

1031
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 7: But I just want to ask, what are your expectations

1032
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 7: for this upcoming season. I don't want to be the

1033
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 7: guy that kind of quit on this year, but I

1034
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 7: feel like we all have these big hopes of taking

1035
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 7: a QB early, kind of getting a new coach, maybe

1036
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 7: even a new GM that won for San France. But

1037
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 7: what's a realistic expectation Because I know we've kind of

1038
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 7: been rebuilding, but it seems like we're really just starting

1039
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 7: fresh this next year.

1040
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 4: I got it. Well, it's not, I mean, I think

1041
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 4: we're talking about Yes, I mean, it's I think the

1042
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 4: realistic thing is it's jiraw Mao. It's him running the show,

1043
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 4: and there's not going to be a major overla. You know,

1044
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 4: it's Macro is now the GM. I mean, I think

1045
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 4: these are the things that if you had to put

1046
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 4: money down on it, that's what I would bet on that.

1047
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 4: You know, either Billyo's still here, maybe they bring back McDaniels.

1048
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 4: I don't know, but that's I mean, I know that's

1049
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 4: not what people want to hear. But I think if

1050
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 4: you had to predict or put money on it, how

1051
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 4: could it not be jiraw Mao as the favorite right now?

1052
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.

1053
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 5: I think that you have to look at it, you know,

1054
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 5: from ownership's perspective a little bit, and completely wiping away

1055
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 5: the infrastructure here that they've built over the last twenty

1056
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 5: twenty five years. It's easy for us to sit here

1057
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 5: and say, oh, just blow it all up and fire

1058
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 5: everyone and get a whole new front office and get

1059
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 5: a whole new coaching staff.

1060
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: And I think it's.

1061
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 5: Really easy to say that, but at the they did

1062
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 5: have unprecedented success with the roots of being like this.

1063
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 5: I think it's really there's not a lot of organizations,

1064
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 5: you know, just thinking about it, that have been successful

1065
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 5: for decades, like the you know, teams like the Steelers,

1066
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 5: the Cowboys, like they're usually something adjacent to what they

1067
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 5: currently had going. And like the Steelers have had what

1068
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 5: like four coaches in fifty years or something like that.

1069
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 5: So if I'm looking at it from the Patriots perspective,

1070
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 5: the most realistic scenario is that it's Gerrodmeo as the

1071
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 5: head coach and it's Macro as the general manager, or

1072
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 5: maybe it's John Robinson as the general manager and you know,

1073
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 5: or John Robinson comes back to beef up Macro's staff,

1074
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 5: you know, to have sort of an adult in the room. Yeah,

1075
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 5: like those types of people come back and it's the

1076
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 5: new Patriot way, but it's still the Patriot Way at

1077
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 5: the end of the day.

1078
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thanks for the call, Mario, appreciate it.

1079
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: Welcome Mike's in Puerto Rico. What's up, Mike, How.

1080
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 11: Are you doing today?

1081
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: Okay?

1082
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 4: Fine?

1083
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 11: What was my name on that list?

1084
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 4: Fred?

1085
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: Not yet?

1086
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 3: No, but you're another one. To me irrelevant category.

1087
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: It's still time.

1088
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 3: It's not my list though, Mike, It's not my list.

1089
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 11: Okay, Hey, thanks, Paul, appreciate it. I so I wanted

1090
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 11: to do you actually touch on something that I wanted

1091
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 11: to throw out there, Fred, So, considering that the defense

1092
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 11: phase the way it was, you know, Judan got hurt,

1093
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 11: Gonzalez got hurt, so on, and fourth, if we would

1094
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 11: have gone a different way in the offense, and let's

1095
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 11: say that, for example, we actually uh Jacoby Meyer, Stade

1096
00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 11: Hopkins was signed, and we drafted Dewan Jones at left tackle,

1097
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 11: and for a kicker, we actually brought in Baker Mayfield

1098
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 11: for a competition and he was our starter. What would

1099
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,959
Speaker 11: have been our floor as far as wins with those

1100
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 11: things taken into consideration.

1101
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 4: The board.

1102
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 3: But you know what, you know what I like about

1103
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 3: that though, Like that's all very rational, reasonable stuff. It's

1104
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: not like what if they had taken Patrick Mahomes instead

1105
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 3: of you know, no, this is things that were.

1106
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: All I'd say, would have been seven games floor floor floor. Yeah,

1107
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't think that, but

1108
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: I think I think you could have won eleven.

1109
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: I now, I just I just I know what, I

1110
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: know when he gaslights me. But I just want to

1111
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 3: make sure I had it all straight. So it was like.

1112
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 5: It was Hopkins and Jacobe with Baker Mayfield.

1113
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 3: But I missed, I missed, Yes, I missed, I miss

1114
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 3: I miss The mac Jones is not part of this, right, Okay.

1115
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 4: I think the one Jones is the right tackle.

1116
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, let's.

1117
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: Pump the brakes on Jones.

1118
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying you had a tackle. So you

1119
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: didn't go four or five games without a tackle, like.

1120
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: Like you did? I think seven? What did I say?

1121
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 3: I think seven is the ceiling.

1122
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 4: Seven is the ceiling?

1123
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, like right, no, no, not for the season, fred,

1124
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: like like so you'd be seven and four?

1125
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: Oh right now? Yeah, oh okay, I'm I just.

1126
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 4: Think Philly Miami, those are talented teams. Maybe you get

1127
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 4: one of the Miami games.

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00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you win the last two games

1129
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 3: without question. I think you might have been able to

1130
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 3: beat anyway. I think you might have been able to

1131
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: beat the Raiders. Yeah, so yeah, I think Cowboys.

1132
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: Oh god man.

1133
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 4: But like the Saints game. I almost look at that

1134
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 4: one as that's a game even like got blown out.

1135
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 4: Like I think that that game was as much about

1136
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 4: like this team's just it's snowballing on them. A different team.

1137
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 3: Now, I don't win that game. I don't think Baker

1138
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: Mayfield represents a huge thanks. I just don't. And I

1139
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 3: know that other people think that he has. But he's

1140
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 3: also lost six out of his last in games. People

1141
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 3: have overlooked that somehow. I don't know why, because it's

1142
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 3: winning and and and they play but lost, and they

1143
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 3: play in the worst division in football.

1144
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 5: I understand the I think, like what you said about,

1145
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 5: you know, the Cowboys game, the Saints game, snowballing and

1146
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 5: things like That's that was my whole thing with with

1147
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 5: DeAndre Hopkins is like DeAndre Hopkins is here from day

1148
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 5: one of training camp.

1149
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: The whole thing is different. You can't, you know, you.

1150
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 5: Can't just look at it and say, okay, well, let's

1151
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 5: drop DeAndre Hopkins in.

1152
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: Now.

1153
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 5: It's like the whole the whole camp is different, Like

1154
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 5: the whole attitude of the team is different. And the

1155
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 5: callers point if it's Jacoby and it's DeAndre Hopkins.

1156
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 3: With a with a legitimate tackle. I think that was

1157
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 3: part of it too, And that's why I said that's

1158
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 3: all rational, Like.

1159
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: It's not like it's rational, and it's all could have happened.

1160
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, like, did you see people

1161
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 3: making the rounds today? They picked ja they picked Kyler

1162
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 3: Kyle Dugger instead of Jalen Hurts. Well, Jalen Hurts wasn't

1163
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 3: really on the table for them, right, They weren't even

1164
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 3: thinking about it at the time. Now you can make

1165
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: an argument they should have been sure, But like.

1166
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: But all those things could have happened. And if they did,

1167
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: because we live in the moment, would be would we

1168
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: not be talking about Bill? This might be his last

1169
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: year because he made some.

1170
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 3: Really good depending, But it depends on what the record was. Well, yeah,

1171
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: but they were two and nine with all that seven

1172
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 3: and four, Yeah, I think there's a chance that that

1173
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 3: would I would say, was the ceiling.

1174
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I feel like you need to unravel it

1175
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 4: a little bit more, and like, how do we get

1176
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 4: to this point? Did they never draft mac Jones or

1177
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 4: did he move on for mac Jones in twenty twenty

1178
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 4: two after last season? And now he's rejiggered things again

1179
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 4: and they get they bounced back, maybe it would maybe

1180
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 4: it would buy him.

1181
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: But he brought in Baker to be the backup, but

1182
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: then Baker became the star.

1183
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 5: So I think with Mac a lot of what you know,

1184
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 5: you're talking to people in the locker room and stuff,

1185
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 5: it's his confidence is shot. And I feel like if

1186
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 5: you had had these pieces that the caller is talking about,

1187
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 5: may never have gotten it might not have gotten to

1188
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 5: this point, and.

1189
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 4: That might be the most interesting question. And he lost

1190
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 4: the job if he had.

1191
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 5: Is his confidence being shot meaning and that he's not

1192
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 5: trusting that guys are going to get open and that

1193
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 5: the players are going to be run properly and he's

1194
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 5: not trusting in the system right now, and so he's

1195
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 5: spiraling because but the point the point.

1196
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: There, and you know, you know, kudos to Mike. It

1197
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: was well thought up because all those things are viable, right.

1198
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 3: Well, they were in line. The DeAndre Hopkins, he was here,

1199
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 3: they visited, they talked to him, they didn't sign him.

1200
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: They were they easily could have stuck with Myers over

1201
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 3: signing Juju, and they easily could have taken a tackle

1202
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: in the draft, which we all thought they were going to,

1203
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 3: right So those three things, to me were very realistic.

1204
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 3: The quarterback that's different. I don't know, if you want

1205
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 3: to bring.

1206
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: But even if even if you take Baker out of

1207
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: the equation, how much better would all right with Paula?

1208
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 3: But if someone else is playing quarterback for those games,

1209
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 3: I think the ceiling would be higher. Nick, and I said,

1210
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 3: I think if Zappi played the last two games, I

1211
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 3: think you would have won.

1212
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick and Omaha, thanks for everything you do. You

1213
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: always give me good things to think about and help

1214
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 1: me understand the game more as they watch on Sundays.

1215
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: Question Uh, for layman listeners like myself, I would love

1216
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: each of your thoughts. When we talk about the Patriots

1217
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: failure in drafting, are we talking about a failure to

1218
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: make good picks or failure to develop those good picks?

1219
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: If it's the latter, specifically, how does that happen in

1220
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: the NFL?

1221
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 5: I'd probably I'm always bad at for I would the former.

1222
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 3: Bad picks or are they taking guys and they're not

1223
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 3: developing them.

1224
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's a little of both, but

1225
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 4: I would lean former. I would say it's the bad picks.

1226
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think, you know, I don't think

1227
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 4: development was going to save Nikhil Harry or Cold Strange or.

1228
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 3: I think it's a little of both, but I agree

1229
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 3: with you, I would I would lean toward the drafting.

1230
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 4: Maybe development, maybe developing that maybe I.

1231
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 3: Think that's another both. But you know where I would

1232
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 3: have taken him in the second round.

1233
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 5: I think that I'm with with Mike in terms of

1234
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,919
Speaker 5: probably more toward bad pick. But I think the main

1235
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 5: reason is well, one like with Cole Strange, just like

1236
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 5: going off the board is just sam with Nikhil Harry,

1237
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 5: I guess you could say that too, just just going

1238
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 5: off the board is just what are we doing. I

1239
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 5: think the other thing is, though development you have to

1240
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 5: take into taking consideration playing time and opportunity. And I

1241
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 5: think a lot of the times what happened with these

1242
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 5: recent draft picks is that guys are being drafted and

1243
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 5: they're they just sit behind veteran players. And even this

1244
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 5: class now like now Keon White is starting to play

1245
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 5: a little bit, but he was drafted behind Judon, behind

1246
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 5: uh josh U j behind Anthony Jennings, and he was

1247
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 5: really drafted for next year. And I think a lot

1248
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 5: of the times with these high draft picks, you know,

1249
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 5: I don't know if Jewan Williams ever would have been good,

1250
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 5: Probably not. But Juwan Williams sat and sat and sat and.

1251
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: And maybe it was just because he was awful.

1252
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I would argue with those guys that they

1253
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: had plenty of undrafted guys that didn't sit, you know,

1254
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 3: like Miles Bryant, you know, around the same time. So

1255
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 3: the Duke Dawson's and the Jewan Williams would probably be

1256
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 3: bad picks. But like to you a point, I love

1257
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 3: your your example of Keon White, like and then you're like,

1258
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 3: so he's behind like Anthony Jennings. I think Anthony Jennings

1259
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 3: is one of those guys. Yeah, sat and sad and

1260
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 3: then I know he was technically on IR, but like

1261
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 3: what was that? What was the injuries? Like I think

1262
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 3: he was kind of like Foxborough fluish yep with some

1263
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 3: of the injuries. You know, they couldn't find any spot.

1264
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 3: Because I think he's a decent enough player. He's a player,

1265
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 3: and I wonder if he had played like he does

1266
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 3: now maybe in his second year, would he be at

1267
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: a higher level. And again it's just like the whole

1268
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 3: how many wins would they have if it's impossible?

1269
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 4: What about p D Strong Strong? I mean, you know

1270
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 4: Pete Strong, hang.

1271
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: On to the ball, Pete Pete the waiter Ryan in Fairfax,

1272
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: Virginia saw the movie about Napoleon with Joaquin Phoenix, and

1273
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: during the Russian invasion in Waterloo scenes, I couldn't help

1274
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: but think of Bill as the cocky old general, stubbornly

1275
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: set in his ways until he is told to go

1276
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: into exile. Anyway, I want to let you know that

1277
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: the team's changing composition over the years has been a benefit,

1278
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: not a drawback. Andy and especially Eric would have been

1279
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: insufferable during these lean years. Oh yeah, that had been

1280
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: tough to do. Eric would be I think, I mean,

1281
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: Eric thought the window was closing in twenty fourteen, So

1282
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: can you imagine, And I'm serious.

1283
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 4: Eric will probably just sit here on the show and

1284
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 4: read his book Windows Close.

1285
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 3: Eric, I think after they lost the eleven one and

1286
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 3: then like twelve and thirteen.

1287
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: They were like windows he had never been part of.

1288
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 3: I think he felt like the window was closed.

1289
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: And then Andy would have been insufferable during these But

1290
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: think about it, I think we'd all agree that's the

1291
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: only thing. Like, I wouldn't be arguing with him, but

1292
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: I would just be telling him, you don't have to

1293
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: be so mean, right, mean, you guys I.

1294
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: Got another, I got another text. You don't argue with friend.

1295
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 4: Well that's a question for you guys, is do you

1296
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 4: find it I mean specifically Paul, like, do you find

1297
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 4: it harder to have disagreements when everybody just is like

1298
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 4: they stink? Like you know, like when they're really good,

1299
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 4: you're just kind of splitting hairs and like, yeah, but

1300
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 4: that guy and you could really fight about but ultimately,

1301
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 4: like you said there used to make a joke.

1302
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 3: One hundred years ago when I used to do the

1303
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 3: Big Show, Humble Brag. I would go in and I

1304
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 3: would tell Fred all the time. I would drive in

1305
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 3: and I would say, well, it's gonna be glen Wood Way,

1306
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 3: it's gonna be Pete Shepherd, and then you know, it

1307
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 3: might be Steve Deossi, it might be Fred Smerless, you

1308
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 3: know whoever, Like, do I go in and get the

1309
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 3: crap kicked out of me by saying like I don't know,

1310
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 3: like I don't know if the secondary is up to

1311
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 3: speed or do I just go along to get along

1312
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 3: for four hours and get out of there without getting

1313
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 3: yelled at? And sometimes I would do one, and sometimes

1314
00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 3: I would do the other.

1315
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 4: And I don't imagine you control it though, like you

1316
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 4: seem like you get something in your bonnet.

1317
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 3: And I can't remember the seven season, Like can you

1318
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 3: guys like remember the perfect season now? Like do you

1319
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 3: remember how like there was like a clear decline yep,

1320
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 3: like starting in like December.

1321
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. Games were getting tougher.

1322
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 3: And my feeling was always that this defense is just

1323
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 3: okay yep. That offense pounds everybody into submission, and the

1324
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 3: defense has the easiest job in the world to do.

1325
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to have a three score lead

1326
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 3: by the middle of the second quarter, and all I

1327
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 3: gotta do is pin my years back and Mike Rabel's

1328
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 3: gonna get twelve and a half SATs. We're going to

1329
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 3: cause all kinds of problems. And then all of a

1330
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 3: sudden when the offense wasn't This is what I would

1331
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 3: go in and I would talk about, like I don't know,

1332
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 3: like if you get a good team, a team that

1333
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 3: can throw a little bit, I would worry about it.

1334
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 3: And I remember the first playoff game, Jacksonville not a

1335
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 3: great team. They went toe to toe with them and

1336
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 3: they had to kick a couple of field goals and

1337
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 3: that finally allowed the separation. I think They ended up

1338
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 3: winning that game by like a I think it was

1339
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 3: like thirty one to twenty or something like that, but

1340
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 3: it was, you know, the difference in the game was

1341
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 3: football math. The Jags had to kick kick a couple

1342
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 3: of field goals and the Patriots got touchdowns and that

1343
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 3: was the difference. And again it's like you're out of

1344
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 3: your mind. You're out of your mind, you know, And

1345
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 3: it's twenty one points the next week against the Chargers,

1346
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 3: and I'm like, it's right there for you to see this.

1347
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 3: There's problems here. And I was getting yelled at and

1348
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 3: yelled at.

1349
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 4: I remember the Jets and the Dolphins games in December

1350
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 4: because I was at the Pittsburgh game and they you know.

1351
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 3: That's was like twenty to three or something like that.

1352
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: I think it started with the Green Bay games. It

1353
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: got a little closer.

1354
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 3: I think I don't think he played Green Bay for.

1355
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: It was an out of conference game.

1356
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 3: Eagles, Eagles, Fey lit them up. I remember thirty one

1357
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 3: twenty eight had a pick in the end zone to

1358
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 3: win the game.

1359
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 5: The Buffalo game, Buffalo stunk, right, they were they destroyed. Yeah,

1360
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 5: And then I was I remember Moss had like three

1361
01:01:58,520 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 5: tds or something.

1362
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 3: Like that, and that was the game they flexed to

1363
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 3: a night game. Yeah, it was like fifty two.

1364
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

1365
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 5: But when you really looked underneath the surface, like those games,

1366
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 5: I think are why people thought you were crazy, is

1367
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 5: my point. You know, anybody, you look underneath the surface,

1368
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 5: there was more.

1369
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 3: There were some I just kept thinking to myself, what

1370
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 3: happens if this team and listen, Ultimately you could go

1371
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 3: when you could say they lost the Super Bowl seventeen fourteen, Paul,

1372
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 3: how are you blaming the defense? But again, they went

1373
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 3: on the field with two minutes left and had the lead.

1374
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 4: Yep.

1375
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 3: They couldn't hold it, yep. And I just think that

1376
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 3: they weren't in that position very often.

1377
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: They would have if somebody had caught on an interception

1378
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: and the refor thrown a flag. But anyway, what flag

1379
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean.

1380
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 4: Blown the whistle on the Eli Manning although I think

1381
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 4: he was still in the ground.

1382
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: Had a flag blown the whistle?

1383
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 3: Wow, you talk about a controversial call if that play

1384
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 3: had been blown.

1385
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: No, I know, I don't think they could have, but

1386
01:02:55,280 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: Sante Samuel, you had it anyway. I didn't finish Bryan's

1387
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: email about the team's changing composition he said MLB was

1388
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: a positive force in the depressing COVID season. She was great.

1389
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: I love Deuce's heel turned from optimism to despair regarding

1390
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: Belichick's team building prowess the drafts.

1391
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 3: Nothing like Mike on the draft.

1392
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate eminent Tamara's approach and to these important team

1393
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: questions from the perspective of a hungry or more critical

1394
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: younger generation in a good way. In other words, the

1395
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: dynasty was great, But yesterdo exit stage. And lastly, I'm

1396
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: still advocating for the show to discuss more NFL at

1397
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: Large takes. The NFL at Large discussions are the best

1398
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: part of the shows that have always been fascinating.

1399
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 3: Oh okay, Von Miller, Yeah, he got his trouble warrant

1400
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 3: for his arrest.

1401
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: You see that, Von Miller?

1402
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1403
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: Why domestic for stealing money in his contract semester? Oh

1404
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: really not good? Not good.

1405
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 3: The wheels are full and.

1406
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,479
Speaker 1: H Evan has left. He's gone to practice. We will

1407
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: wait to hear his update when he gets back. Can't wait.

1408
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 4: Better tell Pizza Tyner, hurry up because we got picks.

1409
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 4: Did you tell him I have picks today?

1410
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: Matt? Yeah, did you tell Thursday, we got picks.

1411
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 3: Your voice cracked it.

1412
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel fine. I just have my

1413
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 4: voice sounds.

1414
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 3: I mean you look wonderful as usual. I mean you

1415
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 3: do have.

1416
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: Those probably have quiet covid.

1417
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 3: He has those movie star looks.

1418
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,439
Speaker 1: Will in Lancaster, this is a throwback game. By the way,

1419
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: Patriots will be wearing red. Will says, I have a

1420
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: very random uniform question, since this is throwback week. Do

1421
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: you know if there are any plans to wear the

1422
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: road throwbacks in the future. I feel like those are

1423
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: really clean and underrated. Yeah, I do like the I

1424
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: think the white ones pop. I do like that.

1425
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 3: I wonder why teams don't do that more often, like

1426
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 3: it together, Like you know, the Miami game, I think

1427
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 3: would have been a perfect example. And then you know,

1428
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 3: like vice versa one. We went down to Miami, Miami

1429
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 3: wore their throwbacks at home. That would have been a

1430
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 3: perfect chance to do the whites that that they're talking for.

1431
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: Did you like my answer to the round table? I

1432
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: didn't really, Sorry, I had I had. I think I

1433
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: had a good one.

1434
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 3: Okay, can you shure it was?

1435
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: It was not You're gonna have to read it.

1436
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 4: It was on a zoom.

1437
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so you're gonna have to read Mike's round

1438
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: table to get my answer about good teas. Good Teas

1439
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: points to who can guess when they last wore the

1440
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: white throwback? There's anyone does?

1441
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 4: Nine?

1442
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1443
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 4: Miami and Denver that they weren't twice that year, And

1444
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 4: I was was that famous for the mining game.

1445
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: The last time they wore two thousand and nine?

1446
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 4: It was? It was it Denver or was it Miami?

1447
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 3: That was the game that you wanted to fight?

1448
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: I didn't want to fight you did. I was very disappointed.

1449
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 4: Did you see the fist pump after the did that

1450
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 4: get you triggered already?

1451
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: Just during after? Yeah?

1452
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I again cte sets in. I remember those

1453
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 3: uniforms that they wore that year being old, like sixties uniforms,

1454
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 3: not the ones that they were for throwbacks.

1455
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: I think, Paul, I don't think it was the same.

1456
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 3: I don't ever, I don't ever remember were the ones

1457
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 3: that you were talking.

1458
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 4: They were great face too, they were different.

1459
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, because remember the the Broncos wore really fun those

1460
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 3: different with the star striper was.

1461
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 4: Like Mike des like you should have seen what they

1462
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 4: wanted to put me in, Like he wasn't having any

1463
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 4: of it.

1464
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 3: But I I if I recall, those old white uniforms

1465
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 3: are like from the sixties. I remember they wore those

1466
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 3: like in the early nineties too, with bled cell So.

1467
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 4: It was for nine, which I think was like the

1468
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 4: fiftieth anniversary.

1469
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 3: Maybe it wasn't. It wasn't fifty, but it was probably

1470
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 3: some kind of Oh, it might have been like an

1471
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 3: a f L A anniversary, right Maybe.

1472
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 4: I think because they were old. They made the bills

1473
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 4: because they were AFL.

1474
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 3: Uniforms, which is not which is not the same as

1475
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 3: the throwbacks they now. The throwbacks they were now I

1476
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 3: believe are from like the mid eighties.

1477
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 4: So techn't warn those white versions.

1478
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 3: Right because even the white ones they wore for Color

1479
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 3: Rush on that Thursday night against Tampa. Oh, I don't

1480
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 3: think those were the same either.

1481
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 4: It was just white pants with their white jerseys, right, right.

1482
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 3: Something like that. I'd like to see the seventies. I know,

1483
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 3: I'm a broken record.

1484
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: On Tuesday show, we were talking about assistant coaches who

1485
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: were hired from within and became head to ja. Let's

1486
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: see enray K from Monterey, Mexico says some facts. Tomlin

1487
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: was the Vikings defensive coordinator No. Six before getting the

1488
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: Steelers job. Right two, talking about if promoting within the

1489
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: organization works, not really. Only five coaches in NFL history

1490
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: have been promoted within the team and won the Super Bowl.

1491
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: Five is a good number. Nineteen seventy Don McCafferty from

1492
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: the Colts, he was the offensive coordinator.

1493
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a little different, but I will accept.

1494
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: Seventy six. John Madden was the linebacker coach for the Raiders.

1495
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, go ahead.

1496
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: Eighty nine and eighty nine, eighty three. Tom Flores was

1497
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:09,919
Speaker 1: the Raiders wide receiver coach.

1498
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 3: He was the Raiders wide receiver coach when under Madden.

1499
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 3: You know, when Madden retired, he took over. Yes, yeah, okay, except.

1500
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: Although it's a little confusing here because he says in

1501
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: eighty three he was so did he come back. No,

1502
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 1: you have to be on the team when you're promoted,

1503
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 1: not like you came back.

1504
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like, what was he on the staff in

1505
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 3: seventy nine? Yeah, that was Madden's last year, right, seventy

1506
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 3: eight or seventy nine, Yeah, I'm not sure. And then

1507
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 3: Flores was the coach in eighty and in eighty three. Yeah,

1508
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,759
Speaker 3: but I you know, if he came from the Raiders.

1509
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 1: Oh maybe he said he won it in eighty ninety,

1510
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 1: all right, anyway, eighty six, oh yeah, eighty six and

1511
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,839
Speaker 1: ninety Bill Parcells, he was the linebacker.

1512
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 3: Someone brought up Parcels, and that is that's accurate, the

1513
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 3: linebacker defensive coordinator when he took over for Ray Perkins.

1514
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 9: Right.

1515
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 1: And then in Seaft won in in eighty nine and

1516
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: ninety four with the forty nine ers.

1517
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 3: He was the and that was also brought up that one. Yep,

1518
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 3: So I would argue, but I would argue that Seaford

1519
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 3: was not a good coach. He inherited a great team

1520
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 3: and won one with him, but he was not a

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Speaker 3: good coach. Then he went to Carolina and it was

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Speaker 3: a disaster.

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Speaker 1: All right, So it's not impossible.

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Speaker 3: But Tom Flories was a good coach.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh wow.

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Speaker 3: Foods here excellent?

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Speaker 1: All right, So food is here. We need to get

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Speaker 1: to that because we need to get to the halftime

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Speaker 1: poster and they're going to talk about the cleats. All right,

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Speaker 13: And we are back with the Patriots until third halftime show.

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01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 13: We've been gone for a little bit but we're back again.

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01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 13: I'm joined by Kristin McHale, first time joiner of the show.

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01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, okay to be here.

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01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 13: So before we get started, Christy, you don't know this works,

1556
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 13: but we get started with some trivia, so I'm gonna answer.

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01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 13: I'm gonna put the questions dow uh listeners right in

1558
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 13: the web radio Patriots dot com. Christin, don't answer these

1559
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 13: even though you know you helped create these questions. We

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01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 13: gotta charges trivia coming off Chargers game week?

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01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 1: All right? Question one?

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01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 13: The Patriots are currently on a blank game winning streak

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01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 13: against the Chargers.

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01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: All right?

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01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 4: Question one?

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01:10:58,560 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: Question two?

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01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 13: The Paytriots and the Chargers have met forty four times,

1568
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 13: including regular and postseason. How many times have the Pats

1569
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 13: shut out the Chargers?

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01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 1: In question three?

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01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 13: The first matchup between the Patriots and Chargers took place

1572
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 13: in October of nineteen sixty. The Patriots shut out the Chargers,

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01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,560
Speaker 13: scoring how many points? All right, and guys, this is

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01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,799
Speaker 13: gonna be for a game day poster.

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01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: Guys.

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01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 13: Teams not doing hot, but the posters are hot, so

1577
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 13: make sure to get them. They're on Patriots dot Com,

1578
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 13: which has linked to all the artists all that stuff.

1579
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 13: But today we're gonna be talking about My Cause.

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01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 4: My Cleats.

1581
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 13: So the NFL has been doing My Cause, My Cleats

1582
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 13: for a couple of years now, and pretty much players

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01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,480
Speaker 13: get to rep custom cleats that go to a nonprofit

1584
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 13: or charity of their choice. And the Pat's been doing

1585
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 13: this for a couple of years, but they had a

1586
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 13: cool opportunity extended it to employees and Kristen and I

1587
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 13: and some others were lucky enough to be selected. And

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01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 13: so we got some White Air Force ones and sent

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01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 13: them in for the artists to do their thing. And

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01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 13: Christ you want to talk about your shoe.

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01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 9: Sure, Well I'll start off by saying I'm not the

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01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 9: most artistically talented, so I had to be guided through

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01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 9: by the artists. So shout out to him for helping

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01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 9: us out with this. But yeah, So the cause I

1595
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,759
Speaker 9: chose is Massioneer, which is a hospital just outside of Boston.

1596
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 9: My family has a really strong connection to there. My

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01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 9: younger brother has been treated there his whole life, grew

1598
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 9: up Patriots fans. So being able to sort of design

1599
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 9: a clet tied to this and the whole My Cause,

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01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 9: My Cleats cause has been awesome. I will say Matisa's

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01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 9: shoes look a little drippier than mine.

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01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that.

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01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 9: How mine came out, design's cool. I used some bright colors,

1604
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 9: some eyes, some little eye pattern on the swoosh. Shout

1605
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 9: out Matissa again for inspiring me to put the design there.

1606
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 9: I wanted to put the eye the bottom of the shoe.

1607
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 9: The designer said no, thank you. But it was a

1608
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 9: great opportunity, great cause.

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01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 13: And it's cool because I'm pretty sure this guy did

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01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 13: some of the players cleats. Yeah, like the company covered

1611
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 13: all this and christ and shoe looks great. She's she's

1612
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 13: hyping it down a little. But you know, the swoosh

1613
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 13: has eyes. You know, maybe maybe we'll have her bring

1614
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 13: him down for the show and Fred can show him

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01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 13: on air. Pretty cool.

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01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 9: You can look out for me on game day. I'll

1617
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 9: be wearing them.

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01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 13: Hopefully it doesn't rain, so you know, we don't want

1619
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 13: to ruin them. All right, I'll get into mine real quick.

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01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 13: So mine is for an organization called Project Goal and

1621
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 13: so years ago, in my college soccer playing day, it

1622
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 13: seems like a lifetime ago, my team did a training

1623
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 13: session and pretty much an It's an after school program

1624
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 13: for middle school and elementary school students, and you know,

1625
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 13: it uses soccer as an enrichment program. It's like aptchoo

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01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 13: program because kids like to play soccer and it makes

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01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 13: them want to go to It tries to get them

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01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 13: into private schools or just better secondary schools. And one

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01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 13: of my good friends, who was a college teammate of mine,

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01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 13: was an alumni of this program. And so Chris has

1631
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 13: said the colors are black, gold, yellow, and so I

1632
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,759
Speaker 13: had a it's cool because the logo is a student

1633
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 13: kicking the ball and it kind of looks like he's

1634
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 13: kicking the swoosh which turns into a soccer ball.

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01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: Artistic guy. Everyone was named after an artist, you know,

1636
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: that's why you gotta do it.

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01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 13: I just want to give a shout out real quick,

1638
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 13: first to the Patriots for allowing the staff to do this.

1639
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 13: I also we have an article on Patriots dot com

1640
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 13: and Alex Francisco has been on the show before is

1641
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 13: doing features on some of the players and employees and

1642
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 13: their causes. But I just want to go through the

1643
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 13: staff real quick. We got Ross Andler supporting same here

1644
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 13: Global Mental Health Movement, Mackenzie Bliss supporting Samaritans, Inc. Chelsea Borty.

1645
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 13: Sorry if I've mispronounced that the myacydis Association. Danny Callahan

1646
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 13: supporting Women's Sports Foundation, She's been on the show before.

1647
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,759
Speaker 13: Steve Cargile supporting youth education, Lindsay Kunniff supporting the American

1648
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 13: Liver Foundation, Dwight Darien supporting Alzheimer's Association, Jeff Dion supporting

1649
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 13: Tourism Cares, Chris Dolan supporting Dana Farber Cancer Institute, Robin

1650
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:57,839
Speaker 13: Glazer supporting Put Me In, Jared Lewis supporting MSCPA, Angel

1651
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 13: Kristen supporting Massi Near, Preston Rodgers supporting Hunters Harvest, and

1652
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 13: Andre Tippett supporting Foundation to Combat Anti Semitism. So, guys

1653
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 13: check out the article on Patriots dot com. Check out

1654
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 13: alex Is.

1655
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 7: Was.

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01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 13: It features on all players and we'll try to bring

1657
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 13: the shoes down for Patriots unfiltered so that everybody can

1658
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 13: see some of the shoes we have. Once again, send

1659
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 13: your answers in the web rad at Patriots dot com

1660
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:26,839
Speaker 13: And guys also.

1661
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: Buy these game day posters.

1662
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 13: They're cool, they're awesome, get them framed, keep they're all

1663
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 13: signed by the artist and you get a ticket certifying it.

1664
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 4: But Kristen, thank you for joining you having I'm going

1665
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 4: to have you back on for sure.

1666
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: You die.

1667
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 4: Here and let's get back to the show.

1668
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 14: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh no,

1669
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,839
Speaker 14: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1670
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 14: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

1671
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 14: now it's next for residential delivery only.

1672
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 3: And now great moments in.

1673
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 1: History.

1674
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 3: And neither was anybody saying that Cole Strange can't play.

1675
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 3: But they say he struggled as a rookie and he

1676
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 3: was overdrafted Paul, and that's a bad pick.

1677
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 1: Some people say it's a bust. Yes, it's not a bus.

1678
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 3: Year one was a bust.

1679
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: That's not what I just said.

1680
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 3: And you know it, Okay, Well, what do you think

1681
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 3: is going to happen. I don't think he's gonna end

1682
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 3: up being like a first round but I think I.

1683
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 1: Think it's just as stupid to say I know he's

1684
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: going to be a pro bowler as I know he's

1685
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: going to be a bust. Same way with Marcus Jones.

1686
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 3: It's not just as stupid to say the second part.

1687
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 3: Because he was a bust in Year one. He wasn't

1688
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 3: anywhere near.

1689
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: A for well, he wasn't a bust.

1690
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 3: He was fred Oh, come on for one year. Like

1691
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that ends his story as a player.

1692
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 3: I didn't say, you said, but in year one he

1693
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:46,919
Speaker 3: was in and out of the lineup due to performance.

1694
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 1: And like the emailer said, we knew he was going

1695
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 1: to struggle.

1696
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 3: No I didn't. I don't pick first round picks as

1697
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 3: plug and play guys that I know are going to struggle. Listen, listen,

1698
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 3: Then it's a bad pick.

1699
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: It's not one of the two has to be true. Well,

1700
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: we'll know it's a bad pick in a few years,

1701
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: but right now, say this.

1702
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 3: Is my whole thing about offensive Lineman. It's not why

1703
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 3: you can get away with taking offensive lineman because no

1704
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 3: one will ever call him a bust.

1705
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 1: You just did.

1706
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 3: I will, but no one.

1707
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: Paul is the only one.

1708
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 3: Now now he's going to completely change the narrative of

1709
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 3: this argument. Be snarky, make fun of me. Everybody laughs

1710
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 3: at him, and then we'll just.

1711
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 1: People.

1712
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 3: Do not declare offensive Lineman as readily bust you as

1713
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 3: Nikhil Harry.

1714
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 1: You are not on it was Nikhil.

1715
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 3: Harry a bust You are not. It was Nikhil Harry

1716
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 3: a bust. Okay you was it okay to call him

1717
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 3: the bust after one year?

1718
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: No? Okay, it was not.

1719
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 3: You're consistent, it's not okay. What do you think he's

1720
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 3: going to be?

1721
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 1: Who? I think he's going to be a fine NFL player?

1722
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't.

1723
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: Okay, that's another great moment from good stuff there.

1724
01:17:55,160 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim so once again, and when people ask me,

1725
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 3: how come you and Fred don't argue anymore? Because Fred

1726
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 3: knows I'm right.

1727
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 4: Well, this one thing I've learned working here is that

1728
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 4: as much as you might not like it, Paul might

1729
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 4: be right about a lot of things.

1730
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 9: Well.

1731
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: Also, there's not much to argue these days, you know. No, No,

1732
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean the evidence is right there in the record

1733
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: and what you see on Sunday two and nine. So

1734
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: you know, back then, I thought the Patriots are pretty good,

1735
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: you know, when they're winning super Bowls, and.

1736
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 3: I would just argue that too good. When I went

1737
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 3: into these seasons and I said, don't worry about all

1738
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 3: this small stuff. We just have to worry about what

1739
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 3: potentially could cause us to not be able to host

1740
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 3: the AFC Championship Game. No, one used to get mad

1741
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 3: at me for making these brash, bold, you know, observations

1742
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 3: and predictions, because I was telling you they're gonna win

1743
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 3: twelve at thirteen games, They're going to host the AFC

1744
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 3: Championship Game and have every opportunity to win the Super Bowl,

1745
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 3: because that's what I thought the talent level indicated. So

1746
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 3: when the talent level indicates what it does now and

1747
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 3: I said, well, and I'm still getting it thrown back

1748
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 3: in my face on my shows. They asked me what

1749
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 3: the ceiling was and I said, I don't know, seven

1750
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 3: or eight wins. The look of utter disgust on Mike

1751
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 3: Felger's face when I said.

1752
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: That they've actually changed the speed of the Sunshine dot.

1753
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:20,799
Speaker 3: Com song, Well, you know it's a whole different song, right, Well, it's.

1754
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: Lyrics, it's the same tune, same but they've changed the

1755
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 1: minor key Sunshine.

1756
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 3: I Stay inside Today.

1757
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's actually pretty clever what they wrote.

1758
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 3: Well, Jim Murray is very good at that.

1759
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,679
Speaker 1: We had the trivia at the halftime. We gave away

1760
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: the poster.

1761
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 3: What have we got for trivia questions? Freddy? Here we go.

1762
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: The Patriots are currently on a blank game. Winning streak

1763
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 1: against the Chargers.

1764
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 3: Well, you guys had this day seven seven.

1765
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 1: Is correct, Sam and Maryland got that right, you guys.

1766
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,759
Speaker 1: The Patriots and Chargers have met forty four times, including

1767
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: regular and postseason. How many times of the Patriots shut

1768
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 1: out the Chargers.

1769
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 3: Once forty three to nothing in twenty.

1770
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 1: Twenty, According to this three times I took a shot,

1771
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 1: Alex and Raleigh, North Carolina got that.

1772
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 3: If you say it with confidence, sometimes people will buy it.

1773
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: I was surprised when I was ready for you to like,

1774
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: that's wrong.

1775
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 3: No, I have no wrong, absolutely no idea. I just

1776
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 3: remember we shut them out in the COVID years.

1777
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 1: Okay. And finally, the first matchup between the Patriots and

1778
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: the Chargers took place in October of nineteen sixty. The

1779
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 1: Patriots shut out the Chargers, scoring how many points google it,

1780
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, twenty eight thirty five. It was so clear,

1781
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 1: touchdown away. Joel at Hull got that, all right? Joel,

1782
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:45,719
Speaker 1: So someone has just occupied the empty seat, has turned,

1783
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 1: has turned?

1784
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:51,719
Speaker 3: Has turned?

1785
01:20:56,200 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: All right? Eric? What heavan? I mean? I did it again?

1786
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 5: It's okay, I did it again, old habitste heart.

1787
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 3: I would take offense that I don't blame you. Somebody.

1788
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 5: Somebody said to me the other day, well, you're better

1789
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 5: than that artsy guy. I can't I can't remember his name. Yeah, yeah,

1790
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 5: you know people.

1791
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: Are that's great. I have no formal but Eric would

1792
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 1: have taken that as a compliment because he fashioned himself

1793
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: as an artsy guy renaissance man.

1794
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 9: Uh.

1795
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 5: Anyway, the Patriots are missing both their rookie wide receivers

1796
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 5: to Mario Douglas and Kaishan Boody. Not Boody was in

1797
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 5: a non contact jersey yesterday, right, I don't believe.

1798
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 3: So that's what someone on the Twitter machine said, Well,

1799
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 3: everybody was in color. Was not Someone said that he

1800
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 3: was in a non contact jersey. But to your point, maybe.

1801
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:45,759
Speaker 4: Someone everyone's in red jerseys.

1802
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 3: Someone the whole was.

1803
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:48,839
Speaker 1: In red jerseys.

1804
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 3: So he didn't have like a black jersey.

1805
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 5: Not what I saw, or so Kaishan Boody and we

1806
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 5: would have that, that's something that we would have. Someone

1807
01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 5: reported Kaishan Boody not at practic this undisclosed reason.

1808
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,719
Speaker 3: Shoulder who knows injury.

1809
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:05,759
Speaker 5: So he's on the injury port with the shoulder injury.

1810
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 5: But I don't know if maybe he aggravated I don't know.

1811
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 5: I don't want to assume anything.

1812
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

1813
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 5: The new kicker, matthew Wright was out there. Uh, and

1814
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 5: Matthew Sexton, I think is the receiver name that they

1815
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 5: signed yesterday was not so they signed They signed him

1816
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 5: for one day, is what it looks like, because the

1817
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 5: kicker is wearing the number and everything.

1818
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 4: So just discover.

1819
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 5: We're taking attendance and Alex is like, you know, forty seven.

1820
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 5: I classed off forty seven and I'm like, oh, that's

1821
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 5: the He's like, who's forty seven? I was like, oh,

1822
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 5: that's the new the new receiver. On the practice call,

1823
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 5: he's like he's kicking. It's like he could do it all.

1824
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 5: He's like Wes well Man.

1825
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 4: Alex got real excited for a second.

1826
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you.

1827
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:54,679
Speaker 5: On the roster it says it's this receiver. So yeah,

1828
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 5: it turns out that the receiver was out the door

1829
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 5: in one day. But Matthew Wright does have some experience

1830
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 5: kicking in the league, and I guess he was cut

1831
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 5: by the Falcons on Tuesday, So maybe it's possible that

1832
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 5: the Patriots didn't know he would be available and that's

1833
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 5: why they'd signed up somebody for any So.

1834
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: Did you get to see anything beyond stretching.

1835
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 5: No, no, that's why I gave a really long answer

1836
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 5: to attendance. That's all I got.

1837
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 3: And because just in related to that kicker thing. You

1838
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 3: know that list of thirteen tryouts, he wasn't one of

1839
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 3: them because he was probably still on the Falcons practice

1840
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 3: squad at that time. But you do wonder if they

1841
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 3: wanted it. Well, I guess they just wanted them for

1842
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 3: the practice squad. So we had to get released.

1843
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, shells, yeah, no, no paths today and ten degrees

1844
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,719
Speaker 1: warmer than yesterday, much warmer, a little bounce in people's stay.

1845
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: It was much better.

1846
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 5: I was talking to I don't know if they already

1847
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:52,759
Speaker 5: would say, but I was talking to someone in particular

1848
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 5: that and you know, very very dejected about the state

1849
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 5: of the team.

1850
01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 3: And you know we both tell Michael cheer him up. Yeah,

1851
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 3: it was Ke's really down. It was right, That was

1852
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 3: my first what you were talking to? Mike is really down?

1853
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,480
Speaker 5: Who I love talking to, by the way, great conversation.

1854
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 3: He's the greatest, he's the best.

1855
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 5: He's as as good of a guy as it appears

1856
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 5: from the outside. But we walked a little bit uh,

1857
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 5: you know, to practice, and he's god like, just what

1858
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 5: do we do?

1859
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 3: You know, just very down Mike takes a personal Yeah,

1860
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 3: And I would think we're talking about Mike greecee by

1861
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 3: the way, as.

1862
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 4: A professional, like he is a consummate professional. I would

1863
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 4: think that there would be a part of him that

1864
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 4: will kind of embrace this chance to have to cover

1865
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 4: a team that's not what he's been covered for twenty years,

1866
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 4: you know, like it's hard, like it's hard for us

1867
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 4: to write, you.

1868
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 3: Know, it's changed the narrative. Yeah, Like you know, like journalistically,

1869
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 3: like I know, I cashed in that hat a long

1870
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 3: time ago, you know, like I'm not necessarily looking to

1871
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 3: break anything. But like as a journalist, wouldn't you be

1872
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 3: looking at It's like, well, yeah, if I can find

1873
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 3: out if Bill's going or staying before anybody else, if

1874
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 3: I can find out who you're hiring before anybody else,

1875
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 3: Like I would look at that. It's like opportunities.

1876
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1877
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,640
Speaker 3: Journalistically, all the quarterbacks are on they talk about like

1878
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 3: Hardy's thing, the action is the juice, Like that's what

1879
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:06,560
Speaker 3: you do this for.

1880
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 5: I think there was a lot of that going around,

1881
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 5: Like I'm giving credit to guys like Andrew Callahan and

1882
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 5: Mark Daniels and Doug like those guys have reported a

1883
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 5: lot about this team, and like everybody kind of got

1884
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 5: on Andrew for the eighty twenty report and stuff like

1885
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 5: that a little bit, but I think it was probably

1886
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 5: pretty accurate.

1887
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 1: Obviously. You know, if you could get to Robert or

1888
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 1: Jonathan Kraft or Bill Belichick himself and they were willing

1889
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 1: to tell you, that'd be the easy way. But if

1890
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 1: you were a Capital J journalist and you're looking for

1891
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: the answer about what's going to happen when of the

1892
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: seasons over, what path would you go to get to

1893
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 1: the answer? You know that's realistic. I can't reveal my sources.

1894
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:48,560
Speaker 3: You got to try to.

1895
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: I would.

1896
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 3: I would be looking at people really close to Bill

1897
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 3: that you have a relationship with, and see if you

1898
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 3: can get a conversation, get a fee, and then do

1899
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 3: that with two or three different people. Now, that might

1900
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,560
Speaker 3: not give you anything concrete, but it might give you

1901
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 3: a lot of valuable background.

1902
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,719
Speaker 1: Agents and Ernie Adam, Now the only.

1903
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 3: Thing about his agent is very tight lipped.

1904
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 4: And also agents are going to tell you what they

1905
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 4: want to tell you. They're not always going to tell

1906
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 4: you so you don't have to do a lot.

1907
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 3: But I mean, like a lot of people around him

1908
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 3: that people know, you know, can a guy like Mike

1909
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,600
Speaker 3: Reese pick up the phone and call Josh McDaniels and

1910
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 3: Matt Patricia, you know people like that. And I'm not

1911
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,560
Speaker 3: telling you that's going to give you the answer, but

1912
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 3: it could provide some insight, you know. And I'm sure

1913
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 3: those guys are making those kinds of calls, and that's

1914
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 3: what I would be looking at. I mean, I wouldn't

1915
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 3: want to do that every year. You don't want to

1916
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 3: be in a coaching search every couple of years, you

1917
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 3: know it is, and you never have an off day.

1918
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:53,600
Speaker 1: Remember I don't know, Paul if you remember, but the

1919
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 1: year Parcels last year and they go to the Super

1920
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 1: Bowl and there was all that contract or see the

1921
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 1: week leading up you know Parcells is leaving. There was

1922
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: that guy that old high school coach that Parcels took

1923
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl read something. I forget his last

1924
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 1: name for me, but like he was kind of saying

1925
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: some stuff before.

1926
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 4: You're just a friend of Parcels.

1927
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he actually was on what.

1928
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 3: I'm talking about.

1929
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: You find out who's He was actually on the plane

1930
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 1: with us going to the Super Bowl, and I knew

1931
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 1: who he was, and he walked by me and I

1932
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: grabbed his wrist and I said, gee, I hope Bill

1933
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: doesn't leave, hoping he would say something to me. You know,

1934
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: it was like he was an old time.

1935
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 3: Do you remember when when Pete Carroll left and Brian

1936
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 3: and I wrote that story about like potential candidates, Like

1937
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 3: we had all the candidates that were in the news,

1938
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 3: you know, like we gotta come up with one on

1939
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 3: our own. We were just like, who can we come

1940
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 3: up with? Friends?

1941
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: Like, what do you guys doing? He's yelling at him.

1942
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't remember you didn't come up with one?

1943
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 4: What you may have?

1944
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 5: I think that that is interesting, you know who's next

1945
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 5: and all this type of stuff. But I think for

1946
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 5: people like like me and people like Mike Reese, based

1947
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 5: off of our conversation, there's still six weeks left of

1948
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 5: the season, So how many times can you write the

1949
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,799
Speaker 5: column of you know, it's it's falling apart?

1950
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 3: And for you, I get it because you're I mean you,

1951
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 3: your lifeblood is breaking down these games, and like for

1952
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 3: you to have to watch the offense of that game

1953
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 3: last week I do. I'm not even I did it

1954
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 3: for you, but but the other guys that are like

1955
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 3: you should be writing an Andrew Callahan piece every week.

1956
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: You know what I would do. I would try to

1957
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 1: identify a coach who was in a similar situation in

1958
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 1: the history, in the past, and say, what was it

1959
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:52,560
Speaker 1: like in that last season where you know, before you

1960
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 1: there's all the.

1961
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 5: You know, the Shulas, the Landry comparisons.

1962
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 1: That are coming out now, yeah they're gone, But I

1963
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:02,759
Speaker 1: mean someone who's alive, who was in a similar position where.

1964
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 3: I remember writing a feature on it, sort of coaching burnout,

1965
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 3: you know, like guys that you know, and I had

1966
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 3: talked to vermil I had talked to Jim Morrow. Jim

1967
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 3: Morrow was absolutely fantastic talking about the playoffs, playoffs like

1968
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 3: that whole thing, and it couldn't have been better. Like

1969
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 3: that's the kind of stuff. These things you can tie

1970
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,719
Speaker 3: them in like Caren would be great at that. Karen

1971
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 3: Grigan would be able to find someone who sort of

1972
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 3: played out the string and kind of knew what was

1973
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:39,560
Speaker 3: it like, you know, what was the last month of

1974
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 3: the season, like when you kind of knew you were

1975
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 3: probably going to be done, you know.

1976
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, what were your assistant coaches doing? Were they making

1977
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 1: phone calls? Like what was the mood? But I think

1978
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 1: now they would open up, you know, they would open up.

1979
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 5: I do wonder where where Billy O's Head's at with

1980
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 5: all of this, because he, regardless of what happens to

1981
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 5: Bill the Bill Belichick, the results have clearly been terrible

1982
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 5: on offense and he didn't do the job that he

1983
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 5: was hired to do.

1984
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 1: He didn't fix it. He made it worse.

1985
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 5: Not on Tuesday, Yeah, he didn't make it worse, but

1986
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 5: it became worse under his watch. So whether it's Belichick

1987
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 5: or it's it's Ben Johnson, there's probably a chance that

1988
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 5: he's gone either way. And I just wonder what's next

1989
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 5: for him. You know, that's a guy that I would

1990
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 5: try to call is like, all right, you know, are

1991
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 5: you talking to a college program?

1992
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 4: Are you?

1993
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 5: You know, are you're putting feelers out there where you're

1994
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 5: gonna go next? Because especially with McDaniel's being a free

1995
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 5: agent now, you have to wonder if.

1996
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 1: A yeah, like is he one?

1997
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 5: And Doney, I've thought about that a lot. I think

1998
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 5: he might be all right, it's.

1999
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:54,719
Speaker 4: That time of the week, Oh oh yeah, let's hear it, Paul.

2000
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 3: Already, Paul, what happened down well? I mean you could

2001
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 3: tell by the the boyish excitement the other week. So

2002
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 3: let's see here. There was a tie at the top

2003
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:14,559
Speaker 3: between Mike as you can already tell, and Fred thirteen

2004
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 3: and three. Very good week, boys, uh, followed by Paul

2005
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 3: at eleven and five, and Alex and Evan at ten

2006
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 3: and six. So you can see it was a pretty

2007
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 3: good week for everybody. With the spread. It was also

2008
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 3: Mike at twelve and four, followed by Evan ten and six.

2009
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 3: Kind of role reversal, the two worst with the spread

2010
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 3: the way I'm just saying context.

2011
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 4: Uh.

2012
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:41,719
Speaker 3: And then Alex, Paul and Fred all nine and seven.

2013
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't care about the spread, queen is

2014
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 1: so you should. That's what separates the anyone can be

2015
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:49,679
Speaker 1: over five hundred straight up. That's okay.

2016
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:54,600
Speaker 3: Alex continues to lead. I did I did chop a

2017
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 3: game off of her lead this week. She's one sixteen

2018
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 3: and sixty four. I am one twelve and sixty eight. Uh.

2019
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 3: Fred is one ten and seventy and then Evan and

2020
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 3: Mike are tied at one oh nine and seventy one

2021
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 3: with the spread Paul eighty nine, eighty three and eight,

2022
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 3: followed by Alex At eighty seven, eighty five and eight,

2023
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 3: Fred eighty six, eighty six and eight, Evan eighty three,

2024
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 3: eighty nine and eight, and despite Mike's twelve and four

2025
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 3: Mark Mike eighty ninety.

2026
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 5: Two in well, I'm told that the spreads all that matters.

2027
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 1: That's true.

2028
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 4: That's right. Hey, there you go. That's I'm coming back.

2029
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 7: Now.

2030
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 1: You're not all right?

2031
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 3: All right, you're in second to last week, so I

2032
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 3: just want to be okay.

2033
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 1: Possibly a good game tonight and eight, possibly eight to

2034
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: fifteen on Prime. The six and five Seahawks, speaking of

2035
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll are at the eight and three Cowboys.

2036
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, Dallas by nine.

2037
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 5: It's important to remember that these two teams had the

2038
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 5: full week because they both played on Thanksgiving.

2039
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 3: So it's very very important to remake a short week.

2040
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 3: Can I just ask Mike if you have anything from Alex?

2041
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 4: She did. She texted us okay on slack, Okay, I

2042
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 4: can join to read them to you. Yeah, I will

2043
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:09,560
Speaker 4: do so.

2044
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 3: Then I want to have to put my glasses on.

2045
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 4: Well, I will lead us off, though, I'm gonna take

2046
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 4: Dallas to win. And I know Evan just said that

2047
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 4: they've had a full week. I still think Thursday night

2048
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 4: games are weird. I'm gonna take the points for Seattle.

2049
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 5: There's Ox going for me. You go, I gotta pull Okay,

2050
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Dallas as well. I'm gonna go

2051
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 5: with with Dallas both ways. I don't really like what

2052
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 5: Seattle's put out there.

2053
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take Dallas both ways too. I like

2054
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,640
Speaker 3: Mike's rationale. I think those Thursday night games tend to

2055
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 3: be a little bit mucked up. But the fact that

2056
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 3: it's a full week, the fact that Dallas has been

2057
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 3: rolling at home, I'm gonna lay the points.

2058
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 1: If I could tease this down to two and a half,

2059
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 1: I would, and then I take the Cowboys both ways.

2060
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 1: But I can't. So I'm gonna take the Cowboys. But

2061
01:33:58,200 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take those points.

2062
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 3: It's it's amazing that he actually did that reasonably.

2063
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 4: Locked us right into it. Alex's Dallas both.

2064
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 3: Ways, Dallas both ways for us, But I don't know

2065
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about.

2066
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 1: Can I do that?

2067
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 3: I think maybe you would add it a half point,

2068
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 3: but if you teased it, it would go from nine

2069
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 3: to three I believe I would love to have like

2070
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 3: lift shots come for like one of these, just to

2071
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 3: watch his head explode. Can you imagine how mad he

2072
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 3: would get? Like Fred Fred, not Fred, your Fred toucher.

2073
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:27,680
Speaker 3: We'll just say, like the most innocuous thing, like what

2074
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 3: do you like that?

2075
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,600
Speaker 9: What I like? Like?

2076
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 3: He's funny.

2077
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 1: I liked it all right. One o'clock Games, Fox, eight

2078
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 1: and three, Lions reeling over Thanksgiving loss against the five

2079
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:44,600
Speaker 1: and six Saints.

2080
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 3: Detroit by four.

2081
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 4: Interesting little spot here for the Lions trying to bounce

2082
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,600
Speaker 4: back on the road against the Saints team, and you

2083
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 4: know what I like them to do it. I'm gonna

2084
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 4: take Detroit. I would lay the points and Dallas. I'm sorry,

2085
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 4: Alexandra does the same.

2086
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,600
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the Lions both ways. I think they

2087
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 5: bounce back.

2088
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. Talk to my boy Hardy about

2089
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 3: this and he shares the I'm gonna take Yeah, he's

2090
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 3: a little shook, he's a little nervous. I'm gonna take down.

2091
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 3: Why do I keep saying Dallas Detroit both ways? But

2092
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 3: I am a little, uh a little hesitant to do that.

2093
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna hedge my bets I'll take the Lions,

2094
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna take them points. I was tempted to

2095
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 1: take the Saints outright, man, but home, that's you know,

2096
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 1: that's the feel of the one o'clock Fox game five

2097
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 1: and six. Falcons. They're kind of my Detroit Lions this year.

2098
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 1: Uh you can you can never get them right, no

2099
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 1: matter which way you pick them. Struggling against the four

2100
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 1: and seven Jets, who of course have a new participant

2101
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:52,679
Speaker 1: in practice as of this week.

2102
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 4: A Uh yeah, I think I think this is gonna

2103
01:35:58,120 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 4: be a little bit of a distraction for the Jets

2104
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 4: this week. I think with Aaron Rodgers back of practice.

2105
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna take Atlanta both ways, and Alex does

2106
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:05,639
Speaker 4: the same.

2107
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 5: I'm also gonna take Atlanta both ways. Tim Boyle was worse, Well,

2108
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 5: he's a terrible quarterbacks. He was worse than Zaq Weell.

2109
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:16,679
Speaker 5: I didn't think you could be worse than Zack Wilson.

2110
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 5: He was worse than Zack Wilson.

2111
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna take the Jets here at home,

2112
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,759
Speaker 3: and it will have nothing to do with Tim Boyle.

2113
01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:27,639
Speaker 3: I think the defense will take the ball away from

2114
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 3: a Falcons team that shouldn't be in a position to

2115
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 3: ever think, well, this is a win for us on

2116
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 3: the road, and I think that they will have that

2117
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 3: kind and I think that the distraction of Aaron Rodgers

2118
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 3: could actually help them because it's less talk about how

2119
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 3: bad they are this week and more talk about Aaron Rodgers.

2120
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I'll roll the dice and say

2121
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 3: the Jets win a game.

2122
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a Costanza, I would pick the Jets.

2123
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go against what I want to do, and

2124
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick the Falcons. One o'clock CBS, two to

2125
01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 1: ten Cardinals against the seven and four Steelers.

2126
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:07,599
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh by five and a half. Another offensive coordinator change

2127
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 3: leads to the first four hundred yard game and fifty

2128
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 3: nine games for Pittsburgh. How's that? How's Matt Canada? There?

2129
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,640
Speaker 3: Like literally, it's been fifty nine games since they got

2130
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 3: four hundred yards of offense and he did it in one.

2131
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 1: Oh, Canada.

2132
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 4: Well, you just talked me into a pall and thinking Pittsburgh,

2133
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:24,799
Speaker 4: I'll lay the points, Alex.

2134
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 3: That wasn't my intention.

2135
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:28,919
Speaker 4: Alex has Pittsburgh, but she took the points for Arizona.

2136
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna take Arizona in this game. I think

2137
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 5: Arizona's a little bit frisky. I think I think Kyler

2138
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 5: Murray is playing well, and I think that they play

2139
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 5: hard for that coach, even though they only have two wins.

2140
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:44,040
Speaker 5: I know that sounds crazy, but I think that they

2141
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 5: compete every single week.

2142
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 3: I agree about Arizona in general, and for that reason,

2143
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 3: I'm going to take the points, but I will take

2144
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh at home to win.

2145
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take Pittsburgh both ways in this game.

2146
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 1: They they got something going over there Sunday at one

2147
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:03,720
Speaker 1: CBS six and five Colts are at the four and

2148
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:04,799
Speaker 1: seven Titans.

2149
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 3: Indeed, by one, nobody's watching this game.

2150
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 4: Man, that's tough.

2151
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:13,600
Speaker 1: It's a tough one. Ah, I don't know.

2152
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go game. I'm gonna go with Tennessee at home.

2153
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:17,800
Speaker 4: I'm not really sure why.

2154
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 3: I can tell you.

2155
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 4: Uh. And Alex actually to the same.

2156
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:23,720
Speaker 1: Has he ever not picked He picked Tennessee every week

2157
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 1: because of Mike. Every now and then.

2158
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,599
Speaker 5: The hen they'll be playing the seven Patriots and Micha

2159
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,679
Speaker 5: wil being I'm gonna take Titans.

2160
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 4: Well, he couldn't because he played for the seven Patriots conundrum.

2161
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 3: Conundrum.

2162
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna take the Colts in this game.

2163
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 5: I think the Titans are are reeling a little bit.

2164
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 5: I know they won last week, right, Yeah, but I did.

2165
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 5: It was an ugly win, and I'm gonna take I'm

2166
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 5: gonna take the Colts.

2167
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't know how the Colts are doing it,

2168
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 3: but I give that guy a lot of credit to

2169
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 3: Shane Stikeen. I mean that they're They're competitive in every game,

2170
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:58,839
Speaker 3: They're over five hundred, They're in the playoff mix. I'll

2171
01:38:58,880 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 3: take them to win this game.

2172
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, division game. Rabel kind of coaching for his life here.

2173
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for the Titans in this game.

2174
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 3: So we had an emailer a short time ago that

2175
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 3: kind of liked when we do NFL at large, did

2176
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 3: you guys I talked a little bit about that Florio thing,

2177
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:22,760
Speaker 3: I think yesterday with Rabel. Oh yeah, yeah, right, So

2178
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 3: I think that's interesting that, you know, Rabel's fine, but

2179
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 3: he might not want Tennessee anymore. So I just thought

2180
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 3: that that kind of whole dynamically.

2181
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was when he came back for his Hall

2182
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:36,640
Speaker 5: of Fame ceremony and some of the comments of like

2183
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 5: you don't know how good you have it here and

2184
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 5: ownership and this and that. I was starting to think

2185
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 5: that maybe he didn't want to be there anymore either.

2186
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I'm gonna take Titans one o'clock Fox, eight

2187
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 1: and three. Dolphins are at the four and eight Commanders

2188
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 1: Miami by nine and a half.

2189
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 4: That's a big number. But I'm gonna continue with my again,

2190
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 4: still workshopping this. Miami on the road north of the

2191
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 4: you know North not going to do well. I'm gonna

2192
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 4: take Washington's points. I'm too big Miami to win.

2193
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 5: Though Miami won thirty four to thirteen last week in

2194
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 5: New York.

2195
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 4: So yet might be colder this week. I told her

2196
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 4: I was still working on it. What does Alex have here?

2197
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 4: Usually she usually skips, oh, Miami, Miami.

2198
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:28,559
Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm taking Miami both ways too.

2199
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will take Miami both ways. I think Washington,

2200
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 3: that little shine on Sam Howell might might be gone.

2201
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:42,559
Speaker 1: This is my upset of the week. Commander's outright wow Yep.

2202
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:49,680
Speaker 1: Sunday at one CBS, the Broncos are at the Texans

2203
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 1: in a rare road game. They're gonna have three in

2204
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 1: a row. The league is really they're making the stick. Yeah,

2205
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 1: make up.

2206
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 3: About us, this is this is not true.

2207
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:02,320
Speaker 1: It's makeup time for the Broncos. Two six and five

2208
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 1: teams who had that No kidding.

2209
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 3: These two teams in the playoff structure are on the

2210
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 3: periphery of the playoff Houston by three and a half.

2211
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Alex said, Houston and Houston. I'm gonna I'm

2212
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 4: gonna do the same though, Houston at home.

2213
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 1: C J.

2214
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 4: Stroud, sign me up.

2215
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 5: This one's a tough one. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna

2216
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 5: take I'm gonna take the Broncos. I think they're That

2217
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 5: defense has just been playing lights out. And I still

2218
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 5: think that c J. Stroud's is he's a rookie court

2219
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 5: He's a very good rookie quarterback. But I think that

2220
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 5: the the Broncos are gonna have something up their sleep

2221
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 5: for him.

2222
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm gonna ride the hot hand too. I'm gonna

2223
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 3: take the Broncos on the road. But I do expect

2224
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 3: this to be a good game.

2225
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:48,840
Speaker 1: I thought i'd be standing alone in this one, but

2226
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:51,679
Speaker 1: I'm going with the Broncos as well. They've been hot. Yeah,

2227
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:54,920
Speaker 1: not that the Texans haven't been playing well, but I

2228
01:41:55,040 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 1: think the young quarterback, as Evan said, Sean Payton experience

2229
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:01,439
Speaker 1: his head coach against him.

2230
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:03,680
Speaker 3: So I don't like the way that Texans spent the

2231
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:05,640
Speaker 3: week whining about and I don't even know what all

2232
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:07,679
Speaker 3: the calls were. I'm sure they got screwed too, because

2233
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:09,600
Speaker 3: the officiating in this league I think is at at

2234
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:13,759
Speaker 3: all time worst. But they spent the whole week bitching

2235
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 3: about them getting screwed against Jacksonville. I don't think that's

2236
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 3: a good mindset.

2237
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna skip over the one o'clock game

2238
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 1: for the Patriots and move to four oh five. The

2239
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 1: one in ten Panthers are at the four and seven.

2240
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:29,560
Speaker 3: Buccaneers Tampa by five. Maybe they can finally get in

2241
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 3: the win column for.

2242
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 4: Young Baker may Baker Mayfield. Yeah, Carolina fire their coach, don't.

2243
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:36,720
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's gonna be a boost this week.

2244
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Tampa Bay and I'm gonna lay the points.

2245
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 3: Wow, showing the coaching change bump?

2246
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:43,639
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2247
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 4: Feel different? Yeah?

2248
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 3: What do you got there for Alexandra? Sorry?

2249
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 4: Uh, she's got Tampa Tampa.

2250
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 5: Normally I would take the coaching angle here, but I

2251
01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:00,599
Speaker 5: think I'm gonna take Tampa. I'm gonna take the though,

2252
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 5: I'll take Carolina to cover. I think they compete in

2253
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 5: this game division game.

2254
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna do the same thing. I think Carolina

2255
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 3: has been competing, they just haven't been able to muster

2256
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 3: enough offense. I'll take Tampa to win. They'll take the

2257
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 3: five points.

2258
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to Tampa too. You know, I don't

2259
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 1: think they get the coaching bump that we saw earlier

2260
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 1: this year with U Raiders. The Raiders one of the

2261
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:23,519
Speaker 1: reasons is.

2262
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 3: They're not playing the Jets.

2263
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 9: No.

2264
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:27,639
Speaker 3: One of the reasons is like Giants without Daniel Jones.

2265
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 1: You know, these players aren't stupid. They know like what's

2266
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 1: happened over the last few years with this team. And

2267
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 1: then they probably saw the press conference that the owner had,

2268
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 1: like are you like excited about being on that team?

2269
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 1: You know, like that was not a you know, a

2270
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 1: confidence inspiring press conference if you ask me. So, I

2271
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of ambivalence in that locker room.

2272
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 1: And I think it. You know, they're one and ten,

2273
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:55,640
Speaker 1: so it's not like, uh, but I don't think they

2274
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 1: win this game and get any bumps. So Buccaneers both

2275
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:02,839
Speaker 1: ways yep, four to twenty five, seven and four Browns

2276
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:06,640
Speaker 1: are at the five and six Rams, the.

2277
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 3: Lar by three and a half DTR three and nine.

2278
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 5: No Joe fla.

2279
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 3: I believe it's Joe Flacco.

2280
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:13,720
Speaker 5: That's why the line is what it is.

2281
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:17,640
Speaker 4: Huh, Yeah, forget it. I'm gonna take the Rams and

2282
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:19,640
Speaker 4: the Rams coming on a little bit.

2283
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 3: I think they're I know you don't want to hear

2284
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 3: this because you make fun of me, and I don't

2285
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 3: want to take away a little bit because it is funny. Yeah,

2286
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 3: but the Rams have been fine when Stafford's played.

2287
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:32,680
Speaker 1: Oh so that two those two games, how often does

2288
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 1: he played this year?

2289
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 3: I think he's missed one and a half games. They

2290
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 3: lost him both and they're five and six.

2291
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 1: Well, he didn't show up in the others. But okay,

2292
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 1: go ahead, Lar Lar for for Alex.

2293
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 3: Just I'm just saying, if you don't, I think they're

2294
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 3: a decent team. I don't think they're a good team

2295
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:51,759
Speaker 3: by any stretch, but I think they're decent.

2296
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. I think I got the Rams both

2297
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:57,560
Speaker 5: ways in this game. They have enough with Stafford. I

2298
01:44:57,600 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 5: don't know if is Cup gonna play in this game.

2299
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 5: You know they haven't that like star power? They saw

2300
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 5: Aaron Donald on defense.

2301
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 3: I believe I believe Cup played last week.

2302
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm going to take the rams.

2303
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,679
Speaker 3: I'm going to take the rams both ways too? Did Alex?

2304
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 3: Did I miss Alex? Okay? Yeah?

2305
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:18,560
Speaker 1: I mean if the Browns had a quarterback, I'd be

2306
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:19,599
Speaker 1: picking them in that game.

2307
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:21,719
Speaker 3: De Sseean Watson was playing, it would be a different story.

2308
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 1: But rams both ways for five?

2309
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:25,679
Speaker 3: How that works?

2310
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 1: Un fucking starting quarterback is eight and three? Forty nine

2311
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:32,560
Speaker 1: ers are at the ten to one Eagles.

2312
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 3: Game of the season thus far, gentlemen. Uh the Niners

2313
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:39,559
Speaker 3: by three on the road.

2314
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:41,880
Speaker 5: Wow, Eagles Bills was pretty darn good.

2315
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 3: Oh that I mean the way the game unfolded that

2316
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 3: was the best playing is the best matchups it is?

2317
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 1: So is that disrespect for the Eagles a little bit?

2318
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:51,720
Speaker 1: Because I know if it was the Patriots, and the

2319
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 1: Patriots nation would be saying, yeah, what would they be saying?

2320
01:45:57,600 --> 01:45:59,759
Speaker 3: I mean, if you don't just say Patriots, Patriots, Patriots?

2321
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: They I was I was.

2322
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:05,200
Speaker 4: Almost gonna go San Francisco. I still think this is

2323
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 4: San Francisco's year. But I'm gonna take Philly in this one.

2324
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 4: At home. I just think you get the better quarterback

2325
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 4: right now, and it's hard to see. I mean, I

2326
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 4: don't than Brock Party. It's tough NFC Championship. I mean

2327
01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 4: this could decide where it's played, kind of like the

2328
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:23,840
Speaker 4: O three Patriots Colt scheme, you know, like this regular

2329
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 4: season meeting, maybe this one decides where they meet in

2330
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:27,719
Speaker 4: the NFC Championship. I'm going Philly.

2331
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 3: And what are those four pointers, Mike, Yeah, like the

2332
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 3: old Norris Division battles in the NHL.

2333
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 4: And what what does Alex? San Francisco, San Francisco.

2334
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm going with the Eagles in this game.

2335
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 5: I with Fred, it's disrespectful that the Eagles, who have

2336
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 5: the better record, uh and won the game last year,

2337
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 5: are dogs at home? Disrespect Come on, Eagles.

2338
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 1: Win the Eagles.

2339
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 3: You know they gave the slip that they won the

2340
01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:57,680
Speaker 3: game last year.

2341
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:00,200
Speaker 5: I think by me, right, I mean, does it it's

2342
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 5: Brock Party or you know one are the other options.

2343
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 5: I mean, it doesn't make a difference. I don't think so.

2344
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:08,720
Speaker 3: I think actually having a quarterback does make a difference, though,

2345
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 3: I will take San Francisco and I do not think

2346
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 3: it will be particularly close. I think the Eagles have

2347
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:16,640
Speaker 3: been walking a tight rope for about a month and

2348
01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:19,559
Speaker 3: a half now, and San Francisco will not let them

2349
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 3: get away with that.

2350
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the Eagles are pulling it out right,

2351
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, put it out, put on the table. Yeah,

2352
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 1: but I don't think they're gonna show it to this game.

2353
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 1: I think I think the forty nine Ers win and

2354
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:41,600
Speaker 1: they cover in this game, but it's Eagles.

2355
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:45,040
Speaker 3: Are Oh yeah, don't make my pick. I think the

2356
01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 3: Eagles are excellent. I just feel like they've won a

2357
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 3: lot of close games that a lot of sort of

2358
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:53,599
Speaker 3: controversial things have gone their way. It's bound to Yeah,

2359
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:55,880
Speaker 3: that's fair, it's bound And I still think the Eagles

2360
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 3: are very good. And I agree with Mike. I think

2361
01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 3: this will probably be the NFC champion.

2362
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 5: If the if the Eagles don't win the Super Bowl,

2363
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 5: then it's going to come down to something like that

2364
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 5: where a lot of their game they've won a lot

2365
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 5: of one score games there No.

2366
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:10,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, and last year I think you know, everybody said

2367
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:13,559
Speaker 3: that about Minnesota, but this team is far more talented

2368
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:14,360
Speaker 3: than Minnesota.

2369
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 1: Eight twenty on Sunday on very sure, the eight and

2370
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:24,639
Speaker 1: three Chiefs are at the five and six Packers, Chiefs

2371
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:26,480
Speaker 1: by six, Chiefs.

2372
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 4: By six, Uh yeah, I like it. I'm going to

2373
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:34,599
Speaker 4: take Kansas City. I'll lay the points. Alex did the same.

2374
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 5: I'm also going to take Kansas City both ways. I

2375
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 5: think that Packers game was a blip. I don't think

2376
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 5: that they're against the Lions. I mean, yeah, I think

2377
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 5: that was a one game thing.

2378
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean if the Chiefs turn it over like

2379
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 3: the Lions did, they'll be in trouble too, right. I

2380
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:52,080
Speaker 3: agree with you guys. I'll take the Chiefs. Look like

2381
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 3: they got a little of their offense back last week

2382
01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:56,600
Speaker 3: against the Raiders, and I think that continues.

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01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 1: Same here, Chiefs both ways. Monday Night, eight fifteen on ESPN, ABC,

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01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 1: ESPN two, ESPN Deportes. The five and six Bengals are

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01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 1: at the eight and three Jaguars.

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01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:13,799
Speaker 3: I wonder if the Burrow injury happened after the window

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01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:17,479
Speaker 3: to flex this baby. Jacksonville by nine.

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01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 4: Nin gimme Jacksonville and I'll yeah, I'm gonna lay the nine.

2389
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 4: And Missus Francisco did the same.

2390
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 5: So Jacksonville's went eight out of their last nine games.

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01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 5: I think it is, which is a pretty good run

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01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:35,040
Speaker 5: for them. I like the Jaguars as well, and I

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01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 5: like them not enough to cover it, though. I think

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01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 5: eight points a lot of points for Jacksonville. Right now,

2395
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:42,560
Speaker 5: I still think the Bengals are competitive.

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01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm gonna do the same thing.

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01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 3: Nine points is a lot Monday night game. They'll they'll

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01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:51,400
Speaker 3: show up. I thought they played hard last week against Pittsburgh.

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01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 3: I think they'll do it again. And then maybe you

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01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:54,759
Speaker 3: have to look out below and see what happens.

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01:49:56,320 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will what game we told Jacksonville. I will

2402
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 1: go with Jacksonville both ways. Ride that Trevor Lawrence train.

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01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 1: All right. Now we go back to one o'clock on Sunday,

2404
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:12,840
Speaker 1: we have to the four and seven Chargers are at

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01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 1: the two and nine Patriots. Remember those days when the

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01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 1: Chargers would come for one one o'clock.

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01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 3: Damn, you could pencil it in, right, I think the uh,

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01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 3: this is a stunning line to me. The four and

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01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 3: seven Chargers are favored by five and a half points

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01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 3: in your building.

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01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 1: But you're not stunned by that.

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01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 5: Okay, but Bailey's appy starts, I don't know, move the

2413
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:33,920
Speaker 5: line in the Patriots just well.

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01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 3: I think it did move her from six to five

2415
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:39,080
Speaker 3: and a half. But just last week, Fred, the Patriots

2416
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:41,639
Speaker 3: were favored on the road. Just last week.

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01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, I can't. I can't do it.

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01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:47,439
Speaker 1: I can't.

2419
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:48,639
Speaker 3: I can't.

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01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 4: I can't even. I can't even. I'm gonna take the

2421
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:54,800
Speaker 4: Chargers in this one. I just quarterback. I think I

2422
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:56,639
Speaker 4: do think that the Patriots will and I mean they're

2423
01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:57,840
Speaker 4: not going to get run off the field by this

2424
01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:00,760
Speaker 4: this Chargers team. And it might be petitive early on,

2425
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 4: but I think the Chargers just have the better quarterback,

2426
01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 4: the better weapons, and I think they'll score more points.

2427
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:11,639
Speaker 4: I got Charges twenty four to thirteen. Alex She's Chargers Chargers.

2428
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:14,719
Speaker 1: I have a similar score to Deuce.

2429
01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:17,639
Speaker 5: I think that the Patriots do get a boost from

2430
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 5: Bailey Zappi, but I think that there's just too much

2431
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 5: offense for the Chargers. I had the Chargers twenty three sixteen.

2432
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 1: I think it's a decent thk.

2433
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:27,160
Speaker 4: They're really going to get that extra field goal.

2434
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:30,520
Speaker 1: I did twenty three sixteen.

2435
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:34,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with the little more offense with Zappi,

2436
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 3: just not as much. And it's the same. Yeah, it's

2437
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 3: the same. It's twenty I have twenty three thirteen Chargers.

2438
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 3: I just feel like unless it's one of those deals

2439
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:47,680
Speaker 3: where the Chargers come in and turn it over all

2440
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:50,519
Speaker 3: over the place. I don't see the Patriots putting together

2441
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 3: enough drives to win.

2442
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was tempted to take the Patriots outright, just

2443
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 1: just because, just for old time's sake.

2444
01:51:58,360 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 3: But I can't do it like Tessio.

2445
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't do it.

2446
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:06,320
Speaker 3: Thirty one thirteen, thirty thirteen, You we're gonna take the Patriots,

2447
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 3: and then you picked thirty one thirteen.

2448
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 1: Just for old times sake, not based on anything I do.

2449
01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 5: I do wonder for this game with the Patriots blow

2450
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 5: me away. I'm looking at this game. I know everybody's

2451
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:18,880
Speaker 5: gonna look at Bailey Zappy, but I'm really looking at

2452
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 5: the defense in this game, because you hold back to

2453
01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:24,640
Speaker 5: back opponents to ten points, and everybody's kind of saying, oh,

2454
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 5: it was a good defense, Were they right? And I

2455
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 5: watching the film back of both those games, there were

2456
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 5: so many more opportunities for the Colts and the Giants

2457
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:34,559
Speaker 5: to make plays that I feel like they didn't because

2458
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 5: of who was playing quarterback. And if I'm right, then

2459
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 5: Justin Herbert is gonna score thirty one points against them

2460
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 5: like Fred predicted. If I'm wrong, then maybe the defense

2461
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 5: is still frisky, you know, at two a nine, as

2462
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:46,960
Speaker 5: frisky as you could possibly be.

2463
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:51,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just think it's just gonna at

2464
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:53,920
Speaker 1: some point in the game, it's just gonna just fall

2465
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 1: apart and we're gonna lose control.

2466
01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:01,400
Speaker 3: Break So ten five on Sunday you want to catch

2467
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 3: a point, it's just at some point it's just gonna

2468
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:06,840
Speaker 3: all fall apart. Can you get that drop? So we

2469
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:09,320
Speaker 3: can include that in the pregame show, Matt.

2470
01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:11,639
Speaker 1: Next, all right, So that's the picks for this week.

2471
01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:14,560
Speaker 3: That in the open to the Tuesday show, see what happened.

2472
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:16,400
Speaker 4: Keenan Allen o miss practiced yesterday. That was a little

2473
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 4: bit he did.

2474
01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:19,840
Speaker 3: I would like to see what happens today on that.

2475
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:22,800
Speaker 3: But if he does not play, then they don't have

2476
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 3: a lot of weapons now they have none.

2477
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 1: Got a few minutes here, emails still coming in. Bradley

2478
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 1: writes in Evan Commy, He says, is Evan a communist?

2479
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 1: Or does he just hate football? It's not just un

2480
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 1: American to hate Army Navy. It shows you're just a casual.

2481
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:43,679
Speaker 1: But didn't get that football isn't only about the modern

2482
01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 1: day scoring. The passing. Evan loves to watch from the

2483
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 1: All thirty three. It's about the trenches and there's no

2484
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:53,679
Speaker 1: better example of that the Army, Navy Boo Evan, the trenches.

2485
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 5: I look, I said on earlier in Catch twenty two,

2486
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 5: I'm going to back off the arm maybe take because

2487
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 5: somebody's gonna take it the wrong way. No, I just

2488
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:06,760
Speaker 5: no one said anything, but I just I didn't want

2489
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 5: people to take it the wrong way that it's like

2490
01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 5: a take against the military, because that's totally not where

2491
01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 5: I'm at. Like, that's not that's not where I'm sure.

2492
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 4: He's just about football.

2493
01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:18,920
Speaker 5: It's all about the trenches. Like please, like how many

2494
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:20,719
Speaker 5: different types of ways I agree.

2495
01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 4: I like the use of casual, though I haven't realized

2496
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 4: the casual. That's like an insult now among football fans.

2497
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 1: Casual it's like calling you you're a casual. Yeah, you're

2498
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:33,880
Speaker 1: a pink cat, right.

2499
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:37,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, these casuals like they know right.

2500
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:43,920
Speaker 1: L from Wisconsin about uniforms. Uh, watching the Black Friday game,

2501
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 1: the Jets uniforms were great. How cool would a Patriots

2502
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 1: black uniform with red accents?

2503
01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:49,280
Speaker 9: Be?

2504
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:52,560
Speaker 1: Make it happen? Now, I'm not.

2505
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 3: A big fan of the black uniform.

2506
01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 5: It feels like the only black uniform I like is

2507
01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 5: the Cardinals. The Cardinals black uniforms are sweet.

2508
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:02,400
Speaker 1: But that's pretty cool, you know raiders know well, I

2509
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 1: mean like that's the one.

2510
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's talking about all. I actually like the like

2511
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:10,680
Speaker 3: the Falcons when they were when they that it wasn't bad.

2512
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:12,560
Speaker 3: I like the red better.

2513
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:13,840
Speaker 5: But yeah, that one's good too.

2514
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2515
01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 4: More uniforms. I'm for all of it. More uniforms, throw

2516
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:21,520
Speaker 4: them all out, I'm not no, no, So what are

2517
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 4: the charges gonna wear this week?

2518
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:25,800
Speaker 3: What was the the throwback that you don't like that

2519
01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:28,240
Speaker 3: you didn't want to see? It's part of your question.

2520
01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:29,480
Speaker 4: I haven't done the round tap?

2521
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:31,240
Speaker 3: Do you not even think about these things?

2522
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:31,480
Speaker 9: No?

2523
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 4: I like to pose them.

2524
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:34,160
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, I'm really.

2525
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 3: Am the first one that puts it in every week?

2526
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:38,960
Speaker 1: Aren't I? You were this week? Yeah? Uh? And finally,

2527
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:41,920
Speaker 1: Stevie in Texas writes in I love that emailer calling

2528
01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 1: out callers, not that I agree with him. The highlight

2529
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 1: of this show today is going to be when William

2530
01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 1: and Philam calls in from the freezer at work to

2531
01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 1: defend himself. Also, I think a lot of people have

2532
01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 1: been worried about what Bill will do with the first

2533
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:57,080
Speaker 1: round pick. I think it's guaranteed he gets the right

2534
01:55:57,160 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 1: player if picking. I'm worried about what he would do

2535
01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 1: with the same and a third round pick.

2536
01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 5: You think it's guarantee?

2537
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 3: Why would I be guarantee?

2538
01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:03,440
Speaker 1: You?

2539
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 5: Is it guaranteed?

2540
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2541
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 5: What has he done with his first round picks outside

2542
01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 5: of Cold Strain or Christian Zalez? That makes it guaranteed?

2543
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna be it for this edition of

2544
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered ten. Okay, yeah, so you guys did all

2545
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:22,840
Speaker 1: catch twenty two ahead of us, correct, So that's already.

2546
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:26,200
Speaker 1: If you missed it, catch it on your favorite podcast.

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01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:31,560
Speaker 1: Aggregator ten forty five pregame show, game postgame show. We'll

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01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:32,440
Speaker 1: see you next Tuesday.

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01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:39,160
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