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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: We are pleased now to be joined by Jake Croninworth

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Speaker 2: from his hotel room in Minnesota, where the Potters are

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Speaker 2: getting set to play the Minnesota Twins. Jake, it's great

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Speaker 2: to see you. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, more than so, obviously.

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Speaker 2: It's this has been a very very tight race in

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Speaker 2: the nationallygu West over the last two weeks. Potters have

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Speaker 2: pulled into first place a couple of times, Dodgers have

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Speaker 2: pulled into first place a couple of times. You guys

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Speaker 2: have been tied a couple of times. How would you

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Speaker 2: say the vibes in the clubhouse have been over these

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Speaker 2: last two weeks as things have really tightened up.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean they've they've been really good. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's a tough part of the schedule where you know,

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Speaker 1: not only are we playing, you know, really good teams,

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Speaker 1: we're playing teams in our division where you know, you

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Speaker 1: win or lose, it's a full game up or down

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Speaker 2: How closely have you guys been watching, you know what

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Speaker 2: other teams are doing. Obviously most important thing you want

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Speaker 2: to focus on yourselves, take care of business. But at

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Speaker 2: the same time, this is the time of year where

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Speaker 2: how other teams are performing win or lose, does affect

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Speaker 2: your guys's overall outlook? How much are you guys watching

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Speaker 2: other teams and paying attention to other games as they happen.

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Speaker 1: I don't think as much right now, we're still here

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Speaker 2: On, and when it's affecting you even more absolutely so.

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Speaker 2: Since the trade deadline, you have had arguably your best

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Speaker 2: over eight forty. Obviously, the Potter has made a lot

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Speaker 2: How has the trade additions that were made affected the

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Speaker 2: kind of pitches you're seeing and maybe just how pitchers

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if if there's any difference in

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Speaker 1: I think you're seeing the residual effects, you know, throughout

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Speaker 1: you know, I think that's kind of what you're seeing,

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Speaker 2: I mean how much has the addition of Ramon Loreano

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Speaker 1: As a whole. Yeah, No, I mean a ton. I

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Speaker 1: mean they fit in perfect with our group. They've been

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Speaker 1: And I mean, shoot, they've all helped this in a

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, I want to go into something a

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Speaker 2: little bit deeper. You are now the third longest tenured

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Speaker 2: Tist Junior. You've been a teammate of Manny's for six seasons,

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Speaker 2: and over the course of his career he's been a

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Speaker 2: describe him as a leader, because I think that's something

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Speaker 2: that gets talked about a lot. But you're in the clubhouse,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I saw something. I think it

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Speaker 1: He's ready to go every night. And I think that

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Speaker 2: Say maybe his leadership has grown or changed over these

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you know, we're all we're all all always

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Speaker 2: You know, people sometimes their perceptions are shift shaped by

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Speaker 1: Man. I'm trying not to read too much of the stuff.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know that. That's a tough one because

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Speaker 1: I really I don't really know what people are saying

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Speaker 2: But like I said, you guys do and that's what

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Speaker 2: The other part of this is you have played for

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Speaker 2: What is different or unique about Mike schilt just maybe

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Speaker 1: Yeah, something different or unique. I think. I think the

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Speaker 1: I think the way that Shulty makes our schedule on

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Speaker 1: So you know, his scheduling has been really good for

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Speaker 2: Yet one of the things that's noticeable is under Mike Schell.

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Speaker 2: You know, you guys, the Potters are playing a very

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Speaker 2: Now you are going we're seeing it aggressive greeds on

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Speaker 1: I think it's both. I think it's probably more the

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Speaker 1: We're gonna play baseball the right way. Eight Hey, Jake,

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Speaker 1: sorry about that. Oh no, no worries a kid issue,

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Speaker 1: no worries all good. Now. I think it's more along

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, now that he's here, I do have to ask

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Speaker 2: I should say, the intention was to have you be

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Speaker 2: you stepped up as a second baseman. We're too valuable

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Speaker 2: How much do you kind of wish you had had

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it would have been I mean, not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jake, I wanted to ask you a question kind

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Speaker 1: Do you think you could have done that? I think

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Speaker 3: Well, I was we almost had you on before the

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Speaker 3: All Star break, and I'm I question back then was

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Speaker 1: That didn't happen? So, but quick, what.

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Speaker 3: Do you like playing multiple positions? Because honestly, I know

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Speaker 3: you're a shortstop by trade, and I think if you

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Speaker 3: just think you bounce around and people don't give you

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Speaker 3: as much credit as you basically deserve. So do you,

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Speaker 3: like I don't in multiple positions or would you rather

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to give you the politically correct

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Speaker 3: I'm like, man, this guy would be so like all star,

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Speaker 2: What's unique about you, Jake is again, it's not like

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Speaker 2: You know, you made like three incredible plays at first

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was just fun stuff. All a lot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's one of those little league games.

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Speaker 3: You know, you gotta do it.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, So, Jake, just to wrap up here, I

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Speaker 1: And do they buy you drinks? No? Not not really, many

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Speaker 2: Was a weird few walking around being famous. Because you've

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Speaker 1: I'm still extremely under the rail. Well that's good to know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm a bold prediction and people don't like it,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know what AJ did at the deadline,

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Speaker 1: It's like a jolt, like, Okay, it's Mason Miller and

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Speaker 1: it's ohearn and for me and it's just like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're in a great spot. You know, for

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Speaker 2: Awesome, absolutely, all right, Well, Jake, we know you've got

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. We really really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, and best of luck this series. Awesome. Thanks

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