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Speaker 1: I found a stat that kind of supports you to like, like,

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Speaker 1: it's just a little backup. I know you're gonna hold

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Speaker 1: out on that. I wouldn't imagine football at ciders does

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Speaker 1: the defense adjusted yards above replacement. So it's basically like

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Speaker 1: I know, no, I know, I know. I feel like

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Speaker 1: this is not going to support my arms. I love

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Speaker 1: when you take when you take one of Paul's things

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Speaker 1: and then you put like a statistical thing on it.

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Speaker 1: Why what are people doing in the background while they're

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Speaker 1: talking to us, are like rearranging their desks multitasking? I

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Speaker 1: want Speed to call back, and so every caa yellow

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Speaker 1: to Speed, who's this caller who's always coming in? And

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Speaker 1: Evan just like goes right at him, like you know,

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Speaker 1: like you like Tom Brady because that was my favorite.

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Speaker 1: That was my favorite part back from yesterday. He did

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Speaker 1: not get discouraged. It's Spi and Fresno. What's up, speed Chicken?

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Speaker 1: You call in when Evan's not here? I get smacked

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Speaker 1: around again like you did. Get older gentleman in the

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Speaker 1: room or using paper and pen and I have my

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Speaker 1: cell phone so this fits perfectly. Ok, Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: But have you ever given any thought to that getting

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Speaker 1: into coaching at some level? You flatter me. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I didn't say you'd be good at it.

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Speaker 1: Don't take it as I don't. Yeah, I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: the jab wars because I'm rooting for Derek Lawrence or

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Speaker 1: Trevor whatever's name. Yeah, we got it, Trevor Carr. He's

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Speaker 1: just beautiful. This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan Well.

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Speaker 1: I figure if Jeff Saturday can be a coach, Evan

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Speaker 1: can be a coach, right right, Well, I mean he

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Speaker 1: did play in the NFL though, that's true. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: he watches All twenty two that is true. All right,

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Speaker 1: it's Tuesday here, it's a Let's stadium and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about the Patriots for the next couple hours as

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Speaker 1: we figure out the offensive problem here. Let me get

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Speaker 1: to the bottom of it right here today. Every two hour,

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Speaker 1: every Tuesday at two o'clock, we do that, and we've

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Speaker 1: got a win to talk about. Four out of five

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Speaker 1: wins for the Patriots, I mean the rolling. We're hot, hot,

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Speaker 1: We're hot. You know, we're just figuring out how to

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Speaker 1: win games. Just stacking them together. Get that win. That's

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Speaker 1: all that matter. So Patriots have a bye week obviously

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Speaker 1: this week, so they'll have time to self scout, figure

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Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. Uh, it's Deuce, it's Paul,

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Speaker 1: if anyone else will be joining later. I think it's

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Speaker 1: just the trio today. Yeah, I got people left doing

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Speaker 1: doing community things and such of that nature. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: that's all right, Evans watching tape breaking it down. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure hopefully it's gonna falls dying of the the croup group,

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Speaker 1: the grip, the group. I'm fighting it, fighting it a little.

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Speaker 1: No one tells you about the group when you become

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Speaker 1: a new parent. I think that should be mandatory. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like they spring that on you. Your baby might

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Speaker 1: cup what blue man croup um, All right, what do

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Speaker 1: we got? I guess we should start with the win

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Speaker 1: twenty six to three. Defense. Yeah, defense all over him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: similar reaction. That's great. I feel good about it. But

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Speaker 1: You know, he can start throwing the ball better. But

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Speaker 1: didn't look any different against Detroit, and the only game

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Patriots offense has looked really all

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Speaker 1: like your DVOA stuff, you know, and maybe not directly

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Speaker 1: They're not generating a lot of offense. Do you realize,

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Speaker 1: like the Colts were like laughable offensively on Sunday? Right,

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Speaker 1: is is just that they sacked the quarterback. So they

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Speaker 1: lost sixty yards on nine sacks. Now, like otherwise the

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Speaker 1: you know, blah blah blah. This isn't an excuse, but

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Speaker 1: and sort of the browbeating nature of the turnovers with

424
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Speaker 1: the coaches has like got him a little goal? Like

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Speaker 1: that's just like the first thing he said after one

426
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Speaker 1: of the first things out of the shoot, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was able to protect the ball today and that

428
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Speaker 1: was Yeah, that was a goal. Like and I listen,

429
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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks goal should never be uh, you know, let's

430
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Speaker 1: let's be a little loose with the football today and

431
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Speaker 1: see if we can win anyway. No, I mean, I

432
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Speaker 1: get got to protect the football. I understand how important

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Speaker 1: that is. But this is a kid who like three

434
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Speaker 1: weeks ago through an interception and got benched. Now there

435
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 1: wasn't a quote unquote Benching in name, but kind of

436
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Speaker 1: what it was. You know, he's thrown interceptions in like

437
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Speaker 1: six or seven games in a row. I wonder if

438
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Speaker 1: he's a little gun shy at this point, and it's like,

439
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Speaker 1: you know, I might have this this throw to make,

440
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Speaker 1: or I might have that throw to make, but I

441
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Speaker 1: don't want to throw an interception, and I'm not going

442
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Speaker 1: to throw an interception, you know, And maybe he's missing

443
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Speaker 1: some stuff as a result. Yeah, I just I mean,

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Speaker 1: and further to further that point, I just I don't

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Speaker 1: see him ever reset in the pocket and deliver the ball.

446
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Speaker 1: It's kind of either it comes out or he tucks

447
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Speaker 1: in and he's either getting sacked or running. There's not

448
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Speaker 1: you know. I just I think that's a critical skill,

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Speaker 1: especially for you know, a quarterback. We know he's not

450
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. He's not just the fields. He's not one

451
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Speaker 1: of these guys who's going to tuck it and run

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Speaker 1: thirty yards. He needs to have short area awareness to

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Speaker 1: be able to find I mean, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: times when you watch these plays and it's like, all right, dude,

455
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Speaker 1: you got to just take a little step to your

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Speaker 1: right and find the guy instead of just go right

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Speaker 1: into the pressure and turtle. So I don't know where

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Speaker 1: to start. Let me, I don't either. But you know,

459
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Speaker 1: the league is, you know, sometimes it's about trends. You know,

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Speaker 1: things trends happen. And to me that there's a trend

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Speaker 1: going on right now where offenses are kind of being

462
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Speaker 1: stifled a little bit, you know, offenses with better quarterbacks

463
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Speaker 1: than we have, you know, And I'm just wondering if

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Speaker 1: that's happening to like the Patrick Mahomes of the world. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's not happening to him, by the way, not him,

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Speaker 1: He's not. He would not be a good example. Well

467
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Speaker 1: he only scoring out of playing out of his mind.

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Speaker 1: He is. But the offense isn't scoring a lot of points.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes it is. I mean, Fred, come on, well,

470
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Speaker 1: how many points did a score last week? So you're

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Speaker 1: gonna just cherry pick one game they I mean they

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Speaker 1: lost to the Colts early. I mean it's has six

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Speaker 1: and two, I know, But I'm talking about total offensive performance.

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Speaker 1: I think I think offenses points are down. I went

475
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Speaker 1: down over the league. That was the Jets figured out

476
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Speaker 1: a way to stop Josh Allen. Now I don't know

477
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Speaker 1: when he hurt his elbow with the game. Really, really,

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna go off of like individual games, Like,

479
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Speaker 1: let's go off of like Tampa in the Rams before.

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Speaker 1: Those are good offenses that haven't been good all year. Well,

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Speaker 1: don't pick the teams that that are the most explosive. No,

482
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Speaker 1: I am picking the teams are the most anybody can

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Speaker 1: get stopped for one game. I am picking the point

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Speaker 1: teams that are most explosive because their production is down

485
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Speaker 1: in addition to other teams. You know, but it's not

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Speaker 1: that's my point. Those two teams that you're talking about

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Speaker 1: are not in this discussion. Well, I think like Tampa

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Speaker 1: the Rams, those teams, those are good offenses that have

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Speaker 1: done nothing all year. Yeah. I just think that since, yes,

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Speaker 1: since you a little bit, they started going getting going

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Overall throughout the league, points are down. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the points are down. I would agree with that, you know,

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Speaker 1: and so you know the Patriots aren't immune from that,

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Speaker 1: you know. That's all I'm saying that there's a trend

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Speaker 1: going on right now, and I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: You know, Paul didn't allow me to finish, but maybe

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Speaker 1: now I think your larger point is valid. Okay, Now,

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Speaker 1: he'll maybe he'll let me finish. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: what's going on and for that to happen. I don't

500
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Speaker 1: know if it's like, you know, no preseason and offenses

501
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: are just not you know, defenses are ahead of the offenses.

502
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Speaker 1: And maybe things will turn around it. But it seems

503
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Speaker 1: to be a trend where offensive production is down yes year,

504
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Speaker 1: and I think I think the prevalence of cover two

505
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Speaker 1: and playing and taking away the deep ball that that

506
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Speaker 1: might be part of it too. My whole thing is though,

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Speaker 1: I just I feel like the Patriots are outside of

508
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Speaker 1: that margin of era. Like if they were an average offense,

509
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Speaker 1: I might say, well there, that's the things they're like.

510
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Speaker 1: I mean, they're not that great, so it affects them

511
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Speaker 1: even more. And they can't they just I mean, they

512
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Speaker 1: can't do anything right now. Yeah, So what do you

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Speaker 1: think Kansas City averages perty game? Probably about twenty eight

514
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Speaker 1: thirty all right, thirty? But what it's only the best

515
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Speaker 1: in the league. Okay, but I'm telling you points are down,

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Speaker 1: but those but I'm just telling you that particular team isn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Buffalo isn't either, Okay, but I mean Buffalo's third

518
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Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, I don't know how the

519
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Speaker 1: manage to beat Kansas City this year? How did that happen?

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Speaker 1: They won? I don't know. What do you mean, how

521
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Speaker 1: did it happen? The Colts have a good defense. Okay,

522
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Speaker 1: they have a good you know. I mean I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, how do again, I don't know, how

524
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Speaker 1: did the Jets manage to be How does the team

525
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Speaker 1: ever not go undefeated? Based on your theory, I know,

526
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Speaker 1: but like you're gonna lose games during the course of

527
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Speaker 1: the year. Okay, okay, but I'm just saying they had

528
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Speaker 1: a bad day. Points are down throughout the league, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not even talking about Aaron Rodgers and all

530
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Speaker 1: that stuff. That's a mess, right, you know. But but

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Speaker 1: I think those are the examples that I would use.

532
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Speaker 1: Is Green Bay, Tampa Bay, the Rant, the ROMs. I mean,

533
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Speaker 1: those are teams with good personnel on offense and for

534
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Speaker 1: whatever reason, probably different reasons, you know. Again, I'll stick

535
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Speaker 1: to your your larger point, which I agree with. I

536
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Speaker 1: I do think points are down in the league, but

537
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Speaker 1: we we could probably look at different reasons all over

538
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Speaker 1: the place for these you know, good personnel. We'll say

539
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Speaker 1: on paper, yeah, those team teams have good offensive you know,

540
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady and Matthew Stafford should be better

541
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Speaker 1: offensively than those teams have been, regardless of what your

542
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: issues are. And I know there are issues in Tampa

543
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Speaker 1: with the offensive line. I know there are issues in

544
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Speaker 1: Green Bay with the receivers, and I know that there

545
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Speaker 1: are issues with the Rams with their offensive line. Yeah,

546
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: he should be better than that. And friend's right. I

547
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Speaker 1: don't know what the answer is. I just wonder if

548
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Speaker 1: like defenses are catching up, if there's a trend going

549
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: on that offenses haven't figured out, like I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It is a weird trend because it

551
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: felt like in recent years that it's just offense offense,

552
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Speaker 1: offense offense. I mean it was it was the proliferation

553
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Speaker 1: of all these wide receivers and you know, all the

554
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Speaker 1: movement that was being made specifically where teams felt like

555
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 1: we need to get an elite guy. It's it's interesting.

556
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I think it's probably worth

557
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: a bigger study. At the end of the look it

558
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: plays out. Look at La I'm not La Las Vegas,

559
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: for example. I mean, they've got some good people on

560
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Speaker 1: that team. Probably one of the best receivers in the league. Again,

561
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: I think cars, you know, a good quarterback. They get

562
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: a lead and they can't well that's that's the weird

563
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: thing for them. Yeah, you know, they they lost a

564
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: seventeen point lead in the game five times in the

565
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: history of the franchise. They've done it three times, I know.

566
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: And they get a lead and then it just stops.

567
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: Like the other team just like they score enough points

568
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: to win, but they don't score consistently. And it's hard

569
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Speaker 1: to do it that way because, like to Fred's point, yeah,

570
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: you got it, like a twenty point lead. All you

571
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: gotta do is move the ball a little bit the

572
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: rest of the game. You don't even have to score anymore, right, Yeah,

573
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Speaker 1: And all of a sudden they go from we can't

574
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Speaker 1: be stopped to we can't move and like you know,

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Speaker 1: Paul's talking about the Rams and the Bucks. I mean,

576
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Speaker 1: I'm listening. I was listening to the game on the

577
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Speaker 1: way home, and like, you know, the Bucks should not

578
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: have won that game. The Rams couldn't even get a

579
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Speaker 1: first down in the fourth quarter. Every time, you know, like, oh,

580
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: the Bucks get another shot at it, and then they

581
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: get another shot at it, and well, did you find

582
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: the play that the guy? I didn't see any of it.

583
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: I was listening on the way home, and they didn't

584
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Speaker 1: really describe it very well. I think it was was

585
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: a cup that they gave the ball in the second

586
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: down and he could have he could have gotten the

587
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: first down, but he was two uh hell bent on

588
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: staying in bounds and he slid and he was like

589
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: a couple of yards short of the first down. And

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Speaker 1: then they didn't get it on third down. It's like,

591
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: just put your head down, get the first down. Who

592
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: cares if you go out of bounds? The first down

593
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: ends the game. Yeah, that was pretty pretty good performance

594
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: by by TB there Brady. It was brutal, Like did

595
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: you see that? No? I showed that drive there was

596
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: like it was unbelievable. And how bad the ramp the

597
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: drive before that he had the touchdown yea. And that

598
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: was where I thought there was a chance. I thought

599
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: I thought there was a chance that Brady was going

600
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: to kill somebody, just walk off the field and say

601
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm done. I choose shots on run. Oh do you

602
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: hear the rumors this morning or not? The rumors, but

603
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: the speculation about that he's coming back to hear Yeah,

604
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: because Belle check has been over the top, and I

605
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: guess Brady on his podcast was glowing about Belichick and

606
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: they're coming, they're coming back, they're getting him back together.

607
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: He's got to be a free agent. He's coming back.

608
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: What would you give him? What would I give him?

609
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: Whatever he wants? Um, well, they won't. I'm asking what

610
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: I would give him? Thirty million dollars guaranteed for one

611
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: year and then we'll see about year two. Yeah, yeah,

612
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: would be crazy. What would that get it done? Probably? No,

613
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah, I don't know. He's when

614
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: he's a new, newly single guy though, So I don't know, right,

615
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: we might, we might want to be out in LA.

616
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: You might want to be in New York. Well, everybody's

617
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: saying San Francisco is the obvious. That's that's what it

618
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: seems like. Yeah, what about the Giants? I just thought

619
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: of that. Daniel Jones, why they get it going? Danie

620
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: Jones free agent though? Yeah? Dable? Yeah, I don't know.

621
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just it's a you know, obviously,

622
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: it's a very short term thing. No matter who we

623
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: goes to. Um, so like, is this like a serious thing,

624
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: yeah from who Oh, no, it's they were just talking

625
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: about it. They were seriously talking about but who you're

626
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: one of your morning shows? Oh yeah, your show so

627
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: clout like us just just fooling around. Yeah, no I'm not.

628
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm not like poo pooing talk radio. I love it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just was wondering if like someone had a report

630
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: about it. No, no reports. Yeah, I can't see that happening.

631
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: Although his oldest son, Jack is going to school in

632
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: Western mass Oh where dear Field? Yeah, so nice, you know,

633
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Speaker 1: and academy, and there's rumors that he's shopping for a

634
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: place to live out there the Western mass Yeah, it's

635
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough, tough tough to find something else there.

636
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to please Gisella. Where's Alex? She could

637
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: probably give him some point. So there's a lot of

638
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: you know, look at this show and the bucks not

639
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: look at this like this is ridiculous. Yeah, guys, they're

640
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: giving him the sideline, which is they they would give

641
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: it Hi yards in the sideline. Yeah. Anyway, good for Tom,

642
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: Good for Tom. Ye. So you know, I'm just getting

643
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: back to our offensive talk. I'm just I'm just you know,

644
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: thinking about anything right now. You know, uh, that could

645
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: be a possible explanation or a contributor to what's going

646
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: on with the Patriots, you know. Yeah. And as much

647
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: as I feel like Mac does deserve some criticism, um,

648
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: I just go back to whatever we came up with

649
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: in the spring, bad idea jeans. It just didn't It

650
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: didn't work. I mean, I don't know how you can

651
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: how you can sit here and be like what we

652
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: had it was it did all that work in the

653
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: spring in early summer or most of the summer, Did

654
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: that you know, set them back? Was it wasted time? Yeah?

655
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: I think so. I mean he's a yeah, so like

656
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: if you had spent that time on just building off

657
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: last year instead, would it have been better? You know,

658
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. And then then you get back to Okay,

659
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: well but you had two coaches who weren't coaching offense

660
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: here last year. Yeah, and would it have mattered? You know,

661
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: what are they building on? They're they're learning it from

662
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: the beginning, and you know it's a good point. Yeah,

663
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't know where you go

664
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: from here, because I mean, I would I think most

665
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: people probably at this point would say you have to

666
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: bring in an offensive coordinator and you have to have

667
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: an offensive line coach, and those are two things that

668
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: need to happen to change. And I think there's a

669
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: chance that they could bring in an offensive line I

670
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: think so too, because that protects Mandy peb will just

671
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: let him focus fall. Well, if the Coats can hire

672
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday ors a head coach, can we hire Tom

673
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: Brady as our offensive coordinator? Friends really determined to get

674
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: Brady back anyway, So here's my here's my prediction. Like

675
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: when you you kept talking about the the defenses have

676
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: been better? Yeah, right, you know the offenses are down.

677
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: You know, it could be just the offense as a words,

678
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: It may not be the defense. Oh I mean I

679
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: didn't really think of it that way, but I do

680
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: think that one of the things that everybody talks about,

681
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't break down the stuff to

682
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: this minute detail, but you know, like the two high

683
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: safeties and you know, keeping everything in front and making

684
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: everybody do you know, and so like really only the

685
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: really really good. So I think, what what is maybe happening?

686
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's it's nothing's ever as

687
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: simple as that, Like, it's not just playing two deep

688
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: safeties and all of a sudden offenses can't move. Like, no,

689
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not as simple as that. But I

690
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: do wonder if this offense it's sort of a new

691
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: age offense the last say, I don't know, eight ten years,

692
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: five years, you know, with you know these read options

693
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: and spreads and stuff like that. Maybe defenses it took

694
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: a while, but they finally figured it out. My prediction

695
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: for next year will be offenses will now be spending

696
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: the entirety of the offseason trying to figure out how

697
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: to best attack the adjustments that the defense made. And

698
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: that's the way it goes. It goes in cycles, right, Yeah,

699
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's schematically, I means have some

700
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: part of it. I think, you know, more than just like,

701
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: oh they're playing more Cover two. I like, it's just philosophically.

702
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: I think the way offenses have been going and so

703
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: many of these offenses that have those big explosive plays,

704
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: the Tyree Hills, I mean that that just became such

705
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: a key part. Now maybe it's just philosophically. Now we

706
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: just we are down to down making sure we do

707
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: not get beat deep, whether you're playing Cover two, whatever

708
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: you're doing. Um, you know you're just you're way more

709
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: concerned now maybe with just giving up the big plays

710
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: and not allowing those things to happen. And you know,

711
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: ensuring you have personality. That's always been the rule of

712
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: Cover two, right, it is you know the cover two shell. Um,

713
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: you know us then I remember that night in Minnesota

714
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: was a night game, and you know that that was

715
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: their defense. And you know, the Patriots had the answer

716
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: to that defense because Brady would do it in twelve place, right.

717
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: Brady would not make a mistake. Brady would just carve

718
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: it up. And they never change. They just insisted on

719
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: doing that defense, which probably it would have been worse

720
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: if they hadn't because that's what they do. But I mean,

721
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: cover two, like Paul said, it forces you to, you know,

722
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: take what they give you underneath and just move the

723
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: ball downfield and don't make a mistake and be precise.

724
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think when you have problems with the

725
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: offensive line, Patriots are certainly in that category. But you know,

726
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 1: some of those other guys like Tampa in the Rams,

727
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: that's probably part of the reason. Like if if you

728
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: need to go seven for seven on a drive and

729
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: you're having problems to the offensive line, sooner or later

730
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get the ball out quicker than

731
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: you want, and you're gonna miss one or get sacked

732
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 1: and get behind the chains. Yeah, so it's good stuff.

733
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: We just got to figure it out. We got two weeks, right,

734
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, we'll get it. Guys are probably taken

735
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: off tomorrow. You know, they'll have Thursday, Friday, Saturday and

736
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: Sunday off and they'll be back on Monday practice of

737
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: ail tomorrow. So you know, maybe we could get an

738
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: early glimpse of of of getting somebody back like David Andrews.

739
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I know a lot of people are painting

740
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: him as the as the savior of the offensive line.

741
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the case, but they certainly

742
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: were better when he was in there. So you know,

743
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: does that give Cole strange new life? Do you know,

744
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: his return all of a sudden, just all right, Cole's back.

745
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: He can play next to David um. But I know,

746
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: I was talking to Tease upstairs and we was kind

747
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: of like, you know, he was like joking, like we

748
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: got to replace the whole offensive line, and I'm like, well,

749
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: what do you what do you really do in the

750
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: off season, Like, I mean, you're not going to replace someoney.

751
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: If you're replacing that's that's a that's everybody loves David

752
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, you know everybody loves David Andrews right now.

753
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, it's clearly you're you're gonna

754
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: need at least one tackle. But I just think the

755
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: coaching has to be has to be better too, because

756
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: I've seen offensive lines look crappy in the beginning of

757
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: the year and then they tend to get on the

758
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: same page and they tend to start to play better

759
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: with good coaching and the blown you know, the certainly

760
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: blown coverages, the blown blocks, you know, guys, the free

761
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: rushers that happen early on those aren't happening as much.

762
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: But it's just it's not in sync. You know, there's

763
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: nothing you see those plays well execute at the timing

764
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: of guys pulling and blocks that happening at the right

765
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: time and the hole opening up at the precise moment.

766
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, it's it's not like that. It's

767
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: you know, Stevenson dodges, a guy runs over a guy,

768
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: and now he's in the open field and now he

769
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: takes off. You know, it's not oh he just blew

770
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: through that hole. I mean I saw a couple runs

771
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: the other night with Derek Henry, my boy. But you know,

772
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: you just sometimes you watch other teams and you say

773
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: it's striking to me sometimes of whoa, yeah, yeah, we

774
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: don't really see that, do We were just kind of

775
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: the sea's part and he's gone. You know, those everything

776
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: they've had to get this year, they've had to scratch

777
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: tooth and nail for every every last inch. Yeah, all right,

778
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: eight five five paths five hundred is the eight stick

779
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: at hot line web radio. At patriots dot com is

780
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: the email address. Let's start the phone calls off with Todd,

781
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Hey, Todd, Hey, So do I sound like

782
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: I'm in a bubble today? Or is it okay? Little better?

783
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: A little better and not a lot of not as

784
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: much background noise either, you know, Okay, I got it. Yeah,

785
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: I've been you know, I'm the house guy because I'm

786
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: not allowed to work and I try to take care

787
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: of the house. That's probably was me doing dishes or something. Eyeball. Yeah, Okay,

788
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: what I'm concerned about is the is the offense getting better?

789
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: And I hear a lot of talk about the old

790
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: line and all this, and I'm just like, what happened? Why?

791
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: Why did our old line drop off from last year

792
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: to this year? Even I don't understand, like it doesn't

793
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 1: seem like we change too many things, Like what really?

794
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: Like what can we say it's going wrong? Is it? Just?

795
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: Is it? Yeah? I mean, this is it. There's a lot.

796
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a like I'm scratching my head too.

797
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: But I think you know, obviously right now it's Andrews.

798
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of it starts with Win.

799
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: You know, when was the first round pick, okay, and

800
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: he wasn't playing up to first round level when he

801
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: was at left tackle, and then they switched them to

802
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: right tackle and moved Trent Brown over there, and you

803
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: have to say that you know that didn't work, right,

804
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: It didn't work. Should they have left me left tackle

805
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: and move went over and kept Win at right tackle?

806
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: I mean because they were better when they were doing that,

807
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: you know, Um, so it's it started there. Then you

808
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: know you've got a rookie yet left guard who really

809
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: you know, if you're going to draft a guy in

810
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: the first round as a guard. He better start right

811
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: away and better be you know, good, and he's had

812
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: his troubles and you know that's part of the only

813
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: stable force so far has been on when you at

814
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: at right at right guard, that's it. Are we at

815
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: the point where we say switched Brown and Win back,

816
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: like reverse the tackle through. I don't think they want

817
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: to do that because you know, like it's the situation.

818
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's a situation with Win you know, like

819
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: he's gone probably after this year. Yeah, but I would,

820
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: I would try it as a measure of desperation. I'm

821
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: kind with Todd what what what can it be worse

822
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: than this? Yeah, a lot of people are calling for

823
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: on when you to go to right tackle? You know,

824
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: who plays right guard? That's the thing, like who goes

825
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: now into right guard? You know? Is that could juiced? Yeah?

826
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think it's worth pointing out too,

827
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: Like last year years I ever played guard, I think

828
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: he has well. And the other thing I'll say, like,

829
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, like what has changed. I know everybody thought

830
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: the offensive line was going to be better. They lost

831
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: two starters in the offensive line and they haven't played

832
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: as well this year as they did last year. It's

833
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: funny how that works. Yeah, and not just I mean

834
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: and and two guys who have been around a while,

835
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: So you're talking about the center year line last year

836
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: was Teddy Kay who's been around forever. David Andrews and

837
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: Shack Mason. I mean, these are you know, guys who

838
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: have played a ton together, know each other. And I

839
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: mean that's a great starting point to be one more

840
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: point to make. I just I also wonder psychologically what

841
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: that did to win? Like, did that did they? I

842
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: mean I never really thought he was, you know, the

843
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: most invested guy anyway, but I just wonder if that

844
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: if that psychologically affected him where I'm like, what, No,

845
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't play right right tack. I'm not well listen,

846
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: you know, we we don't really think about it as

847
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: much as the players do, but it always comes down

848
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: to money. And if you're moving me from left tackle

849
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: to right tackle, that might affect my pocketbook when as

850
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: I become a free agent, right you know that's that's like, yeah, okay, thanks,

851
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: all right, thanks Todd. Let's go over to speeding Fresno.

852
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: What's up? Speed? Ain't no liars? The bye bye bye

853
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: think um uh, but I'd love a montage of you

854
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: of you, like complaining about the background noise and everybody's

855
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: phone call. I could be I could be worse. I'm

856
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: very I'm lenient that way. People tell me I'm too lenient. Yeah,

857
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: you're a very nice man. Um uh yeah, I was.

858
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: You got me wistful about the Brady thing, and I

859
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: was thinking it would be if he comes back for

860
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: a year, it'd be so good until it looks like

861
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen again and we're all miserable. Like um, Like,

862
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: I was wondering, like, how would Brady be with this line?

863
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: You know, it'd be better, but I don't know how

864
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: much better it would be. Yeah, you know, might get hurt,

865
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: You get pissed at the podium like ninety percent of

866
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: the time if PA is dealing with this offensive line. Yeah,

867
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: but but but it's uh. I was thinking about the

868
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: defense this year or like, you know, not the cherry

869
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: pick the recent you know success, But they looked they

870
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: looked pretty good this past we again and then but

871
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: then thinking back to twenty nineteen, I know the Boogeyman

872
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: faded for a lot of reasons, but I think one

873
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: of them was because the offense started to let him down,

874
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: and so they were like, what are we doing this for?

875
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: I could see the defense doing that this year. It's

876
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: like the offense does nothing, but eventually they start the

877
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: kind of turtle too, you know. Yeah, yeah, but you know,

878
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: let's not let's be objective about that. If the turtling

879
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: happens against the Bills, let's say, with a healthy Josh Allen,

880
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: then don't say that, Oh, it's just because the offense

881
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: isn't giving them hope. You know, we have to be

882
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: objective in how we look at it. And then again,

883
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: a good defense from the Jets was able to stand

884
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: into the Bill. Yeah, that's true. And well that's what

885
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, there's gotta be a way. Like you know,

886
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: last night, what was the score of the Baltimore in

887
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: uh thirteen? Okay? Or was it that much? Was it

888
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: that close? I thought it was it was okay. I

889
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: didn't see one play at the game. I just know

890
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: what the school was was. I watched the whole first half.

891
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: Actually I didn't watch any of it. Yeah it's nice.

892
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: I watched a little bit. Um. Yeah, it just seems

893
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: other teams are able to you know, corral these quarterbacks

894
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: better than we can. Yeah, that was I mean last

895
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: night what I was watching, I was focused on Damario

896
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: with Davis because I was just curious. I mean, he's

897
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: he's excellent. I mean, and that's I think when I

898
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: look at what this team needs when they get against

899
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: the quarterback like Lamar, it's that kind of guy who

900
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, it just says anticipation and you know, I

901
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: just I like Jawan Bentley. I think he's a tough

902
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: inside player and he definitely makes some plays. I just

903
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: don't know if he's that plus level anticipator, able to

904
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: read through all the fake handoffs and all that Shenan

905
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: against that those teams do. Now. I say that Malarta

906
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: a day yesterday, even with Tomorrow Davis out there. So

907
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: it's you know, there's no easy answer against those guys.

908
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: But I think that's a big thing for the defenses,

909
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: you know, stolving Josh Allen. I don't know, he just

910
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: kind of had an off game. I think it gets

911
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: the Jets through a couple terrible interceptions. He got hurt

912
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: at the very end. I mean, he's just I don't know.

913
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes I wonder if he's just bored. Well, I think like, listen, thanks,

914
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: there is an element like I think I said it

915
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: last Thursday, like they've had some stinkers at the Metal Lands.

916
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: They generally win them, but their games like that, you know,

917
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: let's just say the last drive at the end, they

918
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: went down, they scored a touchdown, and they end up

919
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: finding a way to win it. They've had games like

920
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: that a lot. Now, I think that there's a bigger

921
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: problem there with that elbow, and that would scare the

922
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: crap out of me if I, you know, were a

923
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: Bills fan. That throw that he had to Digs was alarmable,

924
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: like he's short hopping a throw and grabbing his arm

925
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: like that ain't good. So I'm not saying that he

926
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: dealt with that the whole game. I think the Jets

927
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: do play good defense and all that, but jeez, I

928
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: hope he feels better. No, no, I'm not. I don't

929
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: know what, Like, I don't know how he was dealing

930
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: with that during the game. I'm saying. I don't want

931
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: to take away from the Jets defense, is what my

932
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: point is, because I think the Jets do have a

933
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: good defense. I don't know if he was dealing with

934
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: it with discomfort all game, right, But I don't want

935
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: to take away from the Jets defense either, because my

936
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: guess is if he was dealing with discomfort all game,

937
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: he's probably been dealing with discomfort periodically all year. Like

938
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: it didn't just happen. Yeah, well, I mean there was

939
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: one play at the end. I mean that was like

940
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: I think the second and last drive that they showed

941
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: him get kind of bent, like what I saw. That

942
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: was what they said when it happened near the end

943
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 1: of the game. See, that would be a better specific.

944
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: That would be a better case scenario for the Bills

945
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: if it was like a like a specific. Yeah, that's

946
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: as opposed to like he tore a ligament. There's nothing

947
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: we can do. He's needs Tommy John surgery. I think

948
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna need Tommy John. I think regardless,

949
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have Tommy John surgery after the

950
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: season if he plays the rest of the way, because

951
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: I could see him just saying I can play through this.

952
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: You know, I can run, I can make plays whatever. Um.

953
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: But I think he's gonna need to get that fixed

954
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,959
Speaker 1: at some point because he didn't. I mean that didn't

955
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: look right now it was did you see the last

956
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: play of the game. Fred, No, they had fourth and

957
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: twenty one, and he rolled out to his left and

958
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: threw on seventy yards Like I just I mean, it

959
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: was good coverage and it was incomplete, but like, this

960
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: is a guy who supposedly as Tommy John needs Tommy

961
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: John surgon and he made a throw that I would

962
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: say ninety five of the quarterbacks in the league aren't

963
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: capable of making. Right, it was Tommy John the first

964
00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: guy to get the surgery or need to invent the

965
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: surgery both. No, het, he was the first guy together.

966
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: My name is Tommy John. Let's go with Chris with

967
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: a T, I A N. Hey Christian, Hey, guys, how's

968
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: it going good? Good? I am so. I just wanted

969
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on obviously on the offense, and

970
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: I you know, from my point of view, it's it's

971
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: almost impossible for me to imagine that a team can

972
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: have all these hours and days and weeks and months

973
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: of practices and meetings and get progressively worse on that

974
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: side of the ball. I just don't understand it. And

975
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: my question for you guys is, you know, even when

976
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: you were like looking back in the spring and in

977
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: the summer and they were struggling. Was there a party

978
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: that said, they're probably not going to be that good,

979
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: but there are NFL caliber players here and they should

980
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: be able to move the ball and score points with

981
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: some regularity. Yeah. I mean I figured, you know, Okay,

982
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 1: they're experimenting right now, it's not working. They'll go back

983
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: to what they know and it'll be okay. Yeah, because

984
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: we know Matt can do something, right, Like, we know

985
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: they've got something in the bag, something that they're going

986
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: to fall back to that they know they can do. Yeah,

987
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: you know, and they haven't even been able to do

988
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: that right now. And that's what when you were out

989
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: Paul and I were saying, like it looks the same,

990
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 1: Like this is what we saw in camp, sporadic couple

991
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: plays here and there. Otherwise they struggle to really string

992
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: anything together. Yeah. I think of that Vegas practice, like

993
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: how horrific that was, and and you know, another game. Um,

994
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: I just keep thinking of that, and I'm like, how

995
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: how could they know it get better? It's it's funny.

996
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: It's it's funny bring that up. Sorry to interrupt your

997
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: Christian but like like they had a good, good end

998
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: of practice drives those two days against the Raiders, Like

999
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: it was probably the highlight of anything I've seen from

1000
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots offense since the start of preseason, and you

1001
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: haven't seen that. I mean, those were like, you know,

1002
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: clutch situations, were on the clock, were on the down

1003
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: and distance everything and they and they put two touchdowns up.

1004
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: So you know, it's just funny to bring it out

1005
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: because that was that was it. That may have offered

1006
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: us a peek into the Raiders season as right. Can't

1007
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: stop anybody right when they have to have it right,

1008
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: like all the things that you're talking about offensively, clock,

1009
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: you know, moving down the field, pressure situations, that's where

1010
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: the Raiders have failed defensively. Yeah, oh yeah. Meanwhile, I

1011
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: was like they got Chandler chies, they got mass Crosby

1012
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: were and you know, you know, and the other thing is,

1013
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: you know, giving credit to opponents, they have tape too,

1014
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: They watch you. And in the NFL, if you have

1015
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: a weakness that you can't cover up, other teams are

1016
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: going to exploit it. And if the weakness for the

1017
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: Patriots is the line can't block and receivers don't uncover themselves,

1018
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: don't get open quickly, then I go back to last year.

1019
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: The Patriots are an easy team to defend well and

1020
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: that and that leads me to my next point about

1021
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: post game guys complaining that, yeah, what was that all

1022
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: about and any anything to that, Well, that was Patriots

1023
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: players in the Patriots locker room saying, like, can you

1024
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: believe he was calling out our plays? Which I don't

1025
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: know if that's I think that's worse than if you

1026
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: remit it. They didn't say, they did not say specifically

1027
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: who it was, but it was Jacoby I thought. I

1028
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: read it was Jacoby Myers who was saying they were

1029
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: calling on screen, they were calling on draw which like

1030
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't think, like I mean, I do think that

1031
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: that happens. But I just at this point in time,

1032
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: given what we know about the Patriots offense, it's just

1033
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: got to be disheartening. All they do it in the

1034
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: press box here. I mean, it's it's getting a lot.

1035
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: I've done it too. Ye, Eric comes a toss up

1036
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: to yeah, but that's not good if it's true, you know,

1037
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: if the other team, you know, we we've heard that

1038
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: in the past before Patriots knew our plays and you

1039
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: know the other way around, like if if you know

1040
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: the other teams plays. It's pretty easy to defend. And

1041
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: it's just all right. We're gonna take a break. Paul's

1042
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: foods here. Uh, we'll be right back. More calls and

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Speaker 1: What a day for the Patriots cornerback. The snapping places

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Speaker 1: Elliger takes the snap and hands and all and Wilkins

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Speaker 1: So Judge and Patricia out next week. Just kidding. Do

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Speaker 1: you feel like mentioning the hours they're here too is

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Speaker 1: in this weird place in November. Um yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, why Yeah, why do they need to be

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Speaker 1: just funny because he's like, why why why do they

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Speaker 1: Like you're just coming up with football plays. I thought

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Speaker 1: that was a little bit refreshing of but I just

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Speaker 1: I can't. I've just been hearing the same thing on

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Speaker 1: get it. Like, Okay, I haven't really seen any of

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Speaker 1: not taking it entirely to that level, like sneaky Mike,

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Speaker 1: sneaky negative Mike. But that's not a great endorsement of

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Speaker 1: how he makes it simple for them. Yes, you know,

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Speaker 1: and you don't hear that right about the other guys

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Speaker 1: just wanted to chime in with my thoughts on Max's

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Speaker 1: while I'm not as harsh believing Mac is only destined

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Speaker 1: to be average, I did and do agree with the conclusion.

1258
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: Any hopes of him becoming a top five regular MVP

1259
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: starter in the league are pretty much gone right now.

1260
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: I have him pegged as a Derek Carr type of quarterback,

1261
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: one who will look good at times, but his inconsistency

1262
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: and pension for turnover plays will always only have the

1263
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: Patriots just good enough, which after twenty years of dominance,

1264
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm fine with. I just know other Patriots fans want more.

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01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. I mean, I don't want to say

1266
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: anything about definitive about Mac yet to this point. But

1267
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: I think what this season has kind of shined a

1268
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: big light on was that he does need it to

1269
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: be perfect, Like he needs everything to be right around him,

1270
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: and he needs to be comfortable, and you know, it's

1271
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: a little bit high maintenance. There's not a lot of

1272
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: backyard football in him of just make a play or

1273
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: just make things happen. It's just it seems like when

1274
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: the structure breaks down, he can't really get around it.

1275
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, Chris and Colfax California. You know Colfax.

1276
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: I know the street Colfax in the studio city, but

1277
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what actual time. I think the absolute

1278
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: worst thing for this team is the road we're going

1279
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: down no man's land. This team needs to either win

1280
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: ten plus games or get a top ten pick. Anything

1281
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: in between is a failure of a season. I've been

1282
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: a Sacramento Kings fan my whole life, and that could

1283
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: be the road we're headed down. We need to find

1284
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: out if Mac Grayson, Alan Jones, or Bailey Matt Flynn

1285
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: Zappy can be our quarterback. I was and am a

1286
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: Mac guy, but I think he now kind of tops

1287
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: out at Andy Dalton. I think Zappy is Brian Hoyer

1288
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: at best. We should have been sellers at the deadline

1289
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 1: and sold anyone under twenty seven for anything we could

1290
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: have gotten, like the Dolphins did a few years ago.

1291
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: Thoughts hashtag suck for Strout, Yeah, I don't. I don't

1292
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: really agree. I mean I think. I mean, I think,

1293
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: first of all, the NBA is something different, and that's

1294
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: five guys, and you got a team, and there's a

1295
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: lot of haves and have nots. I think there's more

1296
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: parody in the NFL right now, and there's no guarantee

1297
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: just because you get just because you get a top

1298
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: ten pick, like yeah, maybe one or two is a game,

1299
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: is a franchise altering player. I don't know past that though.

1300
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: Otherwise I think you're kind of taking a swing mostly

1301
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 1: as well. So I don't know. I'd rather be in

1302
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: this point. And I know that, you know, we're five

1303
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: and four and nobody's really that excited about it, But

1304
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: I don't it's much better to me to be like

1305
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: this than to be sitting at two wins and we're

1306
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: miserable and we're praying to God that we hit the

1307
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: first round pick out of the park so that he

1308
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: can save our franchise. Like I don't think that that's

1309
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: like a set thing. I mean, and they just they

1310
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: gotta get they gotta get the offense on track, and

1311
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: they got to figure things out with that to restore

1312
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: some hope within things. Because if they did, if they

1313
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: had an okay offense, if they'd showed glimpses here and there,

1314
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: and they'd, you know, if we could just get over

1315
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: the turnovers, we just you know then I think you

1316
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: might be able to talk yourself into this is a

1317
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: team that's you know, going to be in the mix

1318
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. I mean, I think right now, as

1319
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: it appears, they're going to be in the mix of

1320
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So yeah, And I would just say, you

1321
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: know that there's some correlations to what he's talking about. Like,

1322
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: so Miami a few years ago when they decided to

1323
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: rip it down to the studs, and by the way,

1324
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: we're tanking right yeah, I mean that's kind of fact,

1325
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: not opinion. At this point, they had young talented players

1326
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: to deal for hydrat like Mica Fitzpatrick went for one, right, yeah,

1327
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: he got at they traded him to Pittsburgh for one.

1328
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: Like who would the Patriots trading for a first round pick? Like,

1329
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced you could trade Mac Jones for a

1330
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: first round pick right now? Like who who would they

1331
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: deal that would get you a first round pick that

1332
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: you'd be willing to deal? I mean, right right right now?

1333
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: Do they have it? I mean, like Matthew Judeon, Like

1334
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: would he get a first round pick in return? I maybe,

1335
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: but I don't think so. But why would you? I mean,

1336
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: he's like the best guy you have on your true No,

1337
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just like using it like the

1338
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: emailer is saying, like start over, rip the band aid off,

1339
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: and sell off all pieces that you have. I just

1340
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: don't know that they had a lot of really attractive pieces.

1341
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,919
Speaker 1: I think they had guys that they could trade for sure,

1342
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: but they were going to get you day three picks, right,

1343
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: and like, I don't know how that helps. And like

1344
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: the Isaiah Wins of the world, when people want to like, oh,

1345
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: just flip him. You're not getting those high ends. Everybody

1346
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: wanted to just flip Isaiah Win, like you could do

1347
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: that and get like a second round pick and return.

1348
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: That wasn't going to happen. Gary and East hand over

1349
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: to Jersey, he says. The New York Jets, led by

1350
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: a second year turnover prone quarterback who went eighteen for

1351
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: twenty five for one hundred and fifty four yards and

1352
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: a touchdown, defeated the Bills. They did so with a

1353
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: solid running game and a defense that forced turnovers. If

1354
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: the Patriots are unable to be competitive against the Bills,

1355
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: as they have been in their last two meetings, it

1356
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: will be an indictment on the entire coaching staff in

1357
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: the direction of the team. That's I take issue with

1358
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: forced Like I just I cautioned against just reading into

1359
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: one game. And this is why you know the point

1360
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: that you made that I pushed back on earlier, Fred,

1361
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: because I think you could cherry pick a game and say,

1362
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: well they did it well, then why can no one

1363
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: else do it? Like so the Jets that like that,

1364
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: that's the magic defense, that's the only one that you like.

1365
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 1: What do you think happened on Sunday? Yeah, I didn't

1366
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: see the game. What do you think happened on Sunday?

1367
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: I mean I watched enough of it tonight, just that

1368
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: they the Bills were not on their game in that

1369
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: game that the Jets avoided the turnovers. Jets avoided stupid turnover.

1370
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson didn't make any of the mistakes that he made.

1371
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: They did your thing, They ran the ball, they didn't

1372
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: push the issue, and when it came down to the end,

1373
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: they made the last place. Like I didn't watch the game,

1374
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: I did see the highlights just like everybody else. My

1375
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: guess is Buffalo played like crap. Okay, I'm not going

1376
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: to tell you that the Jets didn't have something to

1377
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: do with them playing like crap. I'm sure they did.

1378
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: You saw that, Josh Allen, but I reception right where

1379
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: he threw it right to the guy right like Quinn

1380
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: going on him. I've seen yeah, he like he That

1381
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: was a Zach Wilson interception, is what it was. I

1382
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 1: heard Fred Toucher talking about that this morning. Anything can

1383
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: happen in like in an individual game, you can you

1384
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: can start like even the best offense can have a

1385
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: bad day. Like so why I pushed back on Fred,

1386
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: Like Kansas City has won Buffalo's three and points scored. Well,

1387
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: you know on Sunday they always scored seventeen points and

1388
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: the Chiefs always good twenty Yeah, and they're averaging thirty.

1389
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: So that means most days they get more than thirty

1390
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: because they only got seventeen the other day and they're

1391
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: still averaging like twenty nine or whatever it is, and

1392
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are averaging thirty. Like my guess is Josh

1393
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: Allen was crappy the other day and the Jets hung

1394
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 1: around and found a way to steal it at the end. Him.

1395
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,759
Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen agree with you, Neil and new Brunswick.

1396
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: I know the theme of this show is to focus

1397
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,799
Speaker 1: on the negative. However, if you went into a coma

1398
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: the day after we lost forty seven to seventeen to

1399
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: the Bills in the playoffs after forcing zero punts and

1400
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: wake up and I tell you the following one. Josh McDaniels,

1401
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 1: leeves with three coaches. J C. Jackson has gone no

1402
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 1: major free agent editions E scal Lee's Patriots, unfiltered trade

1403
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: down in the first round to take a Division two guard,

1404
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: no offensive coordinator. We are changing the offense. Find out

1405
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: Mattie p is the play caller. We look terrible all

1406
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 1: preseason and Matt Jones gets hurt and misses three and

1407
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: a half games. What would you guess? Our record is

1408
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: five and four. Honestly, five and four feels all right

1409
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: to me right now. You may now return to the negative.

1410
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: Five and four. Yeah, like the only thing I would

1411
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: have done if you asked me before the season, I

1412
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: would have said they would have beaten Chicago and they

1413
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: would have lost to the Colts, because I thought the

1414
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 1: Colts were going to be good with Matt Ryan. That's it.

1415
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: I have them five and fourt to buy. Yeah, I mean,

1416
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what his point is. I mean, it's

1417
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 1: they're five and four and they have one of the

1418
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: worst offenses in the league. They've had one of the

1419
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: best defenses in the league, and that's where it is.

1420
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: It comes out at five and four, but we'll see,

1421
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: we'll see in the same and they have one of

1422
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: the best defenses in the league. In the individual I

1423
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: could go back to my my offenses, and I can

1424
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: tell you the ones that are at the bottom, and

1425
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:22,480
Speaker 1: those are the ones that you beat up Pittsburgh, Indianapolis,

1426
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: Like that's that's what happens. Like you can tell me

1427
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: all these things that you thought, but these are weren't

1428
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: the people that were calling in before the season telling

1429
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: me that that there's no hope. I didn't hear any

1430
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: of that before the season, and we certainly didn't give

1431
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,799
Speaker 1: you any of that there's no hope. We had concerns

1432
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: about Matt Patricia probably me the top of that list

1433
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: right front and night. We're more concerned about the defense,

1434
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: right defense is now the least of our Yeah, yeah,

1435
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: I am, I remain every every bit is concerned about

1436
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: the defenses. I am the offense. But you have reason

1437
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: to be, um, just I didn't hear from these people

1438
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 1: that that felt going in without Josh McDaniels, without jac Jackson,

1439
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: and without an offensive coordinator. We're doing like I didn't

1440
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: hear from these people in the summer, and now all

1441
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you go five and four and you

1442
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: want to throw a parade. Let's go to Patty and agawam,

1443
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: what's up, Patty? Good point, Pollie. I was one of

1444
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: those guys that thought that Mack was going to take

1445
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: that second year leap and they were gonna be looked

1446
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: like a playoff team going into the buy. And before

1447
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: I get into my point, let me just say that

1448
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 1: Western mass is beautiful at this time of year. Oh yeah,

1449
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:40,759
Speaker 1: urst years. Forget about the foliage. Foliage, yeah, the waterfall.

1450
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 1: What's wrong with this team? At least offensively? I gotta

1451
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: stay um at least through nine games. I'm satisfied with

1452
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: what the defenses look like. Hasn't been perfect, but they've

1453
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: been competitive, all I agree. The three things that stick

1454
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: out to me are Number one, of course, the offensive line.

1455
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: Number too, whether Matt guys, and I'm a Matt guy,

1456
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 1: I want to admit it or not, the quarterback and

1457
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: by virtue. Number three is red zone. You know, and

1458
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 1: what I would like to see him do like Dante's

1459
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: thing coming out of the bi just stick with five guys,

1460
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,480
Speaker 1: you know, don't be mentioned guys, even if they're struggling.

1461
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: I would rather see cold Strange stick it out for

1462
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,560
Speaker 1: the rest of the season and work through his struggles

1463
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: and be having Isaiah when you never know what the

1464
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,839
Speaker 1: hell you're gonna get with that guy playing whatever position

1465
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: he's playing. I mean, aside from a couple penalties a game,

1466
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 1: and I know, like all the everyone along the line

1467
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: is committed penalties. But to me, I think that's that's

1468
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: a good starting point. Just stick get you know, get

1469
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: five guys out there and just let them play out

1470
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. And what do you guys

1471
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: think about Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's I

1472
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 1: like continuity and I like those things in establishing that

1473
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 1: in the offensive line. I just I mean, I think

1474
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: what the coaching staff is signaling to us is that

1475
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 1: it's beyond the pale of how bad the play has been.

1476
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sure they would love to push

1477
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 1: through it with Cole Strange and give him a chance

1478
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 1: to work through those issues. I just I think probably

1479
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: they got to a point where we feel like we're

1480
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: doing more bad than good with him. Right now, we're

1481
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 1: putting our quarterback maybe in danger. I mean the moves

1482
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: at right tackle that signals everything you need to know.

1483
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean they clearly you know you're not starting Yarnie

1484
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: could just in week eight or week nine all of

1485
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: a sudden out of nowhere if you're feeling good. So

1486
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:24,560
Speaker 1: I like it in theory. I just I don't know

1487
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 1: if that makes the difference. I like the idea of

1488
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: the five five, you know, sticking with five. I just

1489
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: don't know who the five best are like. And I

1490
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: know Bill won't. Bill won't do this because he doesn't

1491
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: do it that way. But I don't want to just

1492
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: stick with Cole Strange because he's the first round pick.

1493
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: Right if he isn't as good as the point, if

1494
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: he isn't as good as somebody else, you shouldn't pare

1495
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: to anybody. Thanks for the call, Patty. Let's go to

1496
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: Aaron and Flint, Michigan. What's up, Aaron, Aaron, Aron, a round,

1497
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 1: it's not there. And you know, as for the red

1498
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 1: zone stuff that Patty was talking about, like I'd settle

1499
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: with Getty to the red zone now, like all of

1500
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 1: a sudden, they don't even get to the red zone anymore,

1501
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,759
Speaker 1: and when they do get there, the ball is usually

1502
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: given to them already in the red zone. Willie's in Philly.

1503
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: What's up will Him? How are you doing? How are

1504
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 1: you doing? Good? All right now? Um So, if I'm

1505
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: if I'm the Jet, Minnesota Bills and the Dolphins, you

1506
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm thinking about on defense, trying to get

1507
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: that met I'm taking away Stevenson and Jakobe Myers because

1508
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: that's all you do too. I'm gonna make you use

1509
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: them other receivers. Yeah, yeah, well yeah, that and just

1510
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: tackle because like they throw the ball to Stevenson a lot,

1511
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: but just tackle them in you know, like this game

1512
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 1: he was like I think he had three catches on

1513
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 1: seven targets or something like that. M yeah, I just

1514
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 1: and um, they Bill has broken Max so badly. I mean,

1515
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 1: that's that's crazy. I mean, and between the joint Francis

1516
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: is the all season stuff that the lack of skilled

1517
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,759
Speaker 1: players and everything. It's just a mess on the offensive side.

1518
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know how, but I don't know

1519
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: how Mad gonna bounce back from this. I really know.

1520
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how you gonna beat So the rest

1521
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: of the team's coming up after the Bobby, I really don't. No,

1522
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that, gentleman, all right, Yeah, it's

1523
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 1: gonna start with the Jets. So do you think I

1524
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: think that William just brought up a point that I

1525
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: think is kind of interesting. Do you think that there

1526
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: is um a cause and effect to the way that

1527
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: Mac was kind of handled, say a month ago. Well,

1528
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you did hear from some players saying, you know,

1529
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: not not these words, but you know Mac got done

1530
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: dirty a little bit. I don't know. I mean, I

1531
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: just I feel like it's looked the same. So I

1532
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: don't I don't really see like the impact of it,

1533
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,600
Speaker 1: like he if you could say he hasn't turned it

1534
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 1: around yet. Oh no, I think he's playing, but I

1535
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 1: just been the same. Oh no, I think he's gotten worse.

1536
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: I think it's been worse since since he came back

1537
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 1: from the injury. I thought, like the Baltimore game, I

1538
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: know that there was three picks, but I think there

1539
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: were things to be encouraged about the way he played

1540
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 1: that game. And I know it sounds counterintuitive he threw

1541
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 1: three picks, but I thought he made a lot of

1542
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 1: plays in that game. I haven't seen really any plays

1543
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,600
Speaker 1: that he's made over the last the last couple and

1544
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 1: for the most part, the offense has been completely set

1545
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: up by the defense the last two weeks. I wonder

1546
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: if maybe he's thinking half the time, I can't make

1547
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 1: a mistake. I can't make a mistake if I throw it,

1548
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: If I throw an interception, I might not get back

1549
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: in the game. You know. And I think it would

1550
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 1: have been really interesting to watch the pick six against

1551
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: the Jets. What would have happened if that if that

1552
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: call doesn't get overturned. And I respect that point, I

1553
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: just I guess for me, I think if you're an

1554
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback, you have to have a level of mental toughness,

1555
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: probably a build out anybody in an average society. And

1556
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, and I hate that, I hate can I

1557
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 1: just can I just stop you in the middle of

1558
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: your explanation for real quick by no means, was that

1559
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: meant to be a defense like an excuse for Mac

1560
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: as an aside Max playing you know bad? I mean,

1561
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 1: you can't even he's been on a bad list like

1562
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. I didn't mean that as

1563
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: a defensive max play. I'm just saying, has that contributed

1564
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 1: to his play? Yeah? And and and I come from

1565
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 1: you know, as a I've talked about my hockey career,

1566
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 1: you know, being an offensive defenseman who lost, you know,

1567
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 1: got bench sometimes and certainly entered games and situations as

1568
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 1: a player where I was afraid to make a mistake

1569
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: and it's no way for anybody to play. And in

1570
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 1: my brief coaching experience, I wanted to absolutely ensure that

1571
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 1: my players were willing to make mistakes and forget about

1572
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 1: it and just go on. So I understand that point,

1573
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: and I hate to think about a player being entering

1574
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: a game in that position. But when Matt came in

1575
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,560
Speaker 1: and I interviewed people that knew him when he was

1576
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 1: a kid, I'd interviewed people that knew him since he

1577
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 1: was in Pop Warner, and his ability to bounce back

1578
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 1: from this kind of stuff was always kind of highlighted

1579
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: and not yes, and through youth football and high school

1580
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: football and at Alabama, he was able to overcome that adversity.

1581
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: But the recurring theme I had, and I think we've

1582
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: seen it, is that sometimes the mistakes and the bad

1583
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 1: things eat into him a little bit too much. Mentally

1584
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 1: and he can't let go of stuff and he can't

1585
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 1: move on. Well, if everybody's if the one thing that

1586
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: everyone agrees on is that he bounces well back from mistakes.

1587
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: That means he makes a lot of mistakes. But I

1588
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: mean it's it's and you know the example that people

1589
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: used to where I think it was just his the

1590
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: year before he started, he got in um I believe

1591
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: it was against Auburn and went toe to toe with

1592
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 1: them and was getting absolutely destroyed, but was able to

1593
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: hang in there. And that's the Mac that I want

1594
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: to see, not the Mac that like, you know, and

1595
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: maybe Paul's right, oh, but listen from the Mac that

1596
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: I've seen, he's an upbeat guy, like you know, like

1597
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 1: I know it's a little thing, but like after that

1598
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: first half of the Jets, they Stunky had just thrown

1599
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 1: a pick six. Let's face if he throw a pick six, Okay, Um,

1600
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: I know Evans said it was a play that didn't happen.

1601
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 1: It happened, and you know, so I was looking at

1602
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: him and he was the first guy out of that

1603
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,640
Speaker 1: locker room, sprinted across the field, was upbeat, you know,

1604
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 1: and I was wondering, like what would his you know,

1605
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: body language be and you know, I see him after

1606
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: these postgame press conferences. You know, I do think he's

1607
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: don't see an upbeat guy in these postgames. No, But

1608
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't see a guy like hanging his head. I

1609
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,640
Speaker 1: see a guy who's like, let's let's let's get to

1610
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: practice tomorrow. Let's you know, I do. I do see

1611
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: a guy who you know, wants to just keep taking

1612
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:50,560
Speaker 1: on the challenge. So far, yeah, so far. I just

1613
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 1: I guess for me, there's a little bit of a

1614
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: difference between putting on a brave face and actually turning

1615
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: the performance around and going out and yeah, you had

1616
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: a bad thing or you know the maybe you think

1617
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: the coaches are benching you, but like you come out

1618
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: and you play mad and you produce, and you know

1619
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 1: those are I think he's got to overcome that stuff.

1620
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: And I mean, you know, we've talked about a plenty

1621
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 1: with the hitting the pads, and I mean I think

1622
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: that was something that he really had to grow on

1623
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 1: as a player. And I think this whole situation just

1624
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 1: tested him in a way that you know, ultimately he

1625
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 1: probably needed to be tested to find out if he's

1626
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 1: a real you know, the real deal as an NFL quarterback.

1627
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: But I just it boils down to performance for me,

1628
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: and I just I'd love to see him prosper in

1629
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: the face of adversity to the protection was awful tonight,

1630
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 1: but Mac found a way. He got he you know,

1631
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 1: he made a couple of steps, he made a couple

1632
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: of runs when he had to. He got that that

1633
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: last drive. He got us in the end zone when

1634
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: we needed to. That's what's like that. There was a

1635
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 1: wheel route available to Stevenson and I think it was

1636
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: in the first half, and he overthrew him by a

1637
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: little bit. He was under some pressure, had probably probably

1638
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: had to throw it a little bit before he wanted to,

1639
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 1: but the throw was there to be made. And listen,

1640
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 1: I think when it comes to the list of things

1641
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: that I worry about with Mac Jones, his accuracy is

1642
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 1: probably well down the list. I think he generally throws

1643
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:10,600
Speaker 1: the ball where it's supposed to go. But that's a

1644
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 1: play that he could have made. And yeah, you could

1645
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:14,799
Speaker 1: look and say, well he was he was getting rushed.

1646
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: That's the good ones, you know, they find a way

1647
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 1: to do that, and I think lately he hasn't been

1648
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 1: finding ways to do that. I'd highlight the short hop

1649
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: to Thornton too as a play that stuck out to

1650
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: me where it just it looked like he wasn't comfortable.

1651
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 1: He kind of rushed it, you know, got it out quick.

1652
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: It was right at his feet. I think he had

1653
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: another guy wide open on the other side of the

1654
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: field too, you know. I just think those are the

1655
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 1: things that are kind of coming up where it's just

1656
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: even when it's there, sometimes it's harder than it really

1657
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: should be. Mental. He doesn't look like he's seeing it

1658
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 1: very well. Yeah, pal is in Arkansas, he says. In

1659
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 1: my personal opinion, I think Bill is tanking in his

1660
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: own way, between trading away Shack Mason, not having real

1661
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: coordinators in the power surge of teams in the AFC

1662
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: East and the rest of the AFC, along with the

1663
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 1: amount of money the Patriots have to spend this up

1664
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 1: and coming season. I really think Bill is tanking because

1665
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: he knows they can't compete with the rest of the

1666
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 1: league in the playoffs due to the horses they have

1667
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 1: in the stable. I remember Paul saying a few years

1668
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: ago teams don't tank by trying to lose on Sundays.

1669
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 1: They tank by who they put on the field and

1670
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: who was coaching. Do you think Bill is possibly taking

1671
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 1: in his own way to get a top draft pick

1672
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 1: along with revamping the team for the near future. No,

1673
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: if he is, he's going about it all. Got to

1674
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 1: tell the defense to right, you can't stop winning. Stop

1675
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: win four out of five games five and four, Yeah,

1676
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean we've got a lot of losing to do.

1677
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: If that's you're not going to get a top ten

1678
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 1: pick at five and four. Alex and Raleigh writes in

1679
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: I see this season remaining more of the same, and

1680
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: no matter what the coaches do, who plays in the line,

1681
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 1: if it's Zappie or Mack, there's just too many problems

1682
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: on offense to start producing this year, and guys just

1683
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 1: have to con tinue to play their best on defense

1684
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,959
Speaker 1: the rest of the season to say we have improved

1685
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 1: over the three years. Early in the show, you guys

1686
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 1: talked about the offensive struggles and how it starts at

1687
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 1: the line. If Andrews comes back during the buy returns

1688
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: for week ten, do you guys think there's any chance

1689
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: the offense starts to develop an identity or we just

1690
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: continue to get lucky because we are the Patriots and

1691
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: beat up on bad teams and teas with crucial players

1692
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 1: out from injury. PS shout out to Jacoby Myers for

1693
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 1: being one of the best Patriots and a legendary Wolfpack player.

1694
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: I hope he stays with the team selfishly, but also

1695
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,719
Speaker 1: want to see him get his shot as secondary wide

1696
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 1: receiver on a great team. He's as a secondary piece

1697
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: on a great team. Yeah, maybe he's a He's He's

1698
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 1: a first for me because usually if a guy like

1699
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 1: this was great for the Patriots, I would just be

1700
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 1: beside myself about wanting to keep him. But I like

1701
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 1: him so much personally that I think he's one of

1702
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 1: the rare ones where if he went somewhere and got

1703
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 1: a huge Bay Day, I'd root for him and be

1704
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: really happy that he was able to success. But that's okay.

1705
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 1: It's a rare one for me, believe me. Usually it's

1706
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 1: like they leave their dead to me. But it depends

1707
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 1: on the last words out the door. See now that

1708
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 1: I actually agree with No, I like I could change

1709
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: my opinion if a guy was was all, you know,

1710
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: snivelly on the way out the door. Yeah, if he goes,

1711
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: he goes. Like as of today, if he went to

1712
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: another team. Yeah, I'd be root for him, But if

1713
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: he goes also a team, it says the place is

1714
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 1: no fun. It also depends on where he goes. Yeah, yeah,

1715
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah right, the one him going to the Jets,

1716
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 1: Like if you went to Buffalo with the Jets, like

1717
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: Kansas City'd be like, I'd have to break Rock and Brookfield,

1718
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: Connecticut first and foremost. I'm a team Mac guy. He

1719
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,600
Speaker 1: deserves to prove himself one way or another and for

1720
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 1: the rest of the season, and I would even say

1721
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 1: next year, let him show us who we truly is.

1722
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: Our defense has the potential to be a playoff caliber defense.

1723
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: It's becoming clear. As for the offense, I'm squarely looking

1724
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 1: at Bill and how he handled replacing McDaniels. Everyone gave

1725
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 1: him the side eye this offseason when he hired Judge

1726
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 1: and Patricia to run the offense. It's proven to be

1727
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 1: an awful experiment through nine games, one of the worst

1728
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 1: Patriots offenses I've ever watched, despite arguably getting better on

1729
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 1: paper on the offensive side of the ball in the offseason. Yeah,

1730
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 1: I mean said it. I mean I gave him the

1731
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. The proof is in the pudding.

1732
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: You get out there, you see what it actually looks like.

1733
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:28,600
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's it's it's not good, bomb not great. No, this, this,

1734
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:32,839
Speaker 1: this offensive online problem goes back to giving Joe Tuny

1735
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: the franchise tag. That was the beginning of the first

1736
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: dominant fall. Yes, so can you walk me through that? Yeah?

1737
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 1: They over, they over. They shouldn't have given him the

1738
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 1: franchise tag. They should have just extended him. Okay, so

1739
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: why did they then happen? So they chose not to

1740
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 1: extend him, right, and they also chose not to keep

1741
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: the guy that they did extend, Shack Shack Mason, right. So, like,

1742
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how those two things whatever, whatever it

1743
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 1: started with Tuny started started with Tuny deep deep thinker,

1744
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:15,560
Speaker 1: yep kersh yep, deep thinker. It's true. I agree with

1745
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: you that it was a mistake to franchise a guard,

1746
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,719
Speaker 1: But based on what I've seen, they could have extended

1747
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 1: him and he'd gotten traded for like a fifth round

1748
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: pick this year, because that's basically what they did with

1749
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: the guy they did extend. Um. Let's see Jason and Connecticut.

1750
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,639
Speaker 1: A lot has been made of the booing, and I'd

1751
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 1: like to address that. It's my opinion that if you're

1752
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 1: a professional, you have a job, it's your responsibility to

1753
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 1: do the job to the best of your ability at

1754
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: all times without making excuses. If it is obvious to

1755
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 1: everyone that you're not doing your job properly, I think

1756
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: that's a reasonable customer has the right to express their displeasure. So,

1757
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: no matter what anyone says, I support Paul and getting

1758
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 1: righteously upset when he was in the Dunkin Donuts line,

1759
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: and that he was completely justified in calling the barista

1760
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 1: incompetent boom, Paul, we have your back, just um. I mean,

1761
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 1: I know that that was kind of like a long

1762
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 1: way to take a shot at me, which is fine

1763
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: because I deserve it. I don't think people have a

1764
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: problem with booing. I think what was different that night

1765
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 1: was the calls for Zappy before Mac even took a snap,

1766
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: And there were calls for Zappy before they ran an

1767
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 1: offensive play. Yeah, like people don't find people don't think

1768
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 1: there's a difference in that, Like in your home stadium,

1769
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 1: they're not wanting you to play right right, Yeah, welcome

1770
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 1: to Massachusetts. But you know, sure if he goes out

1771
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: and throws three picks. What are we doing here? Yeah?

1772
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 1: Make a change now, Paul, you might remember, probably not.

1773
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 1: Wasn't there a time where there was a faction of

1774
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: Patriots fans who wanted Grogan over Easton? Oh yeah, everybody

1775
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 1: wanted grog over recent Yeah did they? Did? They yell

1776
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 1: at the games or stuff or probably? But that was

1777
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 1: after Easton was bad? Yeah? How long did get before

1778
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 1: he was deemed bad? Like? What was his? Uh? And

1779
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't even like that he was that bad. It

1780
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,719
Speaker 1: was that he just wasn't tough. Soft, Yeah he was soft.

1781
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:25,759
Speaker 1: Ron Meyer used to say he was too small, frail,

1782
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: he was frail about his own quarterback. Yeah, well he

1783
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 1: didn't because he didn't want to draft him. Now again,

1784
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's one of those that the coaches like

1785
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: to do. Don't play that guy. I didn't want that guy, right, Um,

1786
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what he was he I think he

1787
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 1: started some games his rookie year, aady three. Like. See,

1788
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 1: the thing about Grogan is Grogan was the prototypical Grogan

1789
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 1: could have only been a thing here, well here like Philly. Yeah,

1790
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 1: you know, like some hard scrabble Northeast time. Like he

1791
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,759
Speaker 1: wasn't that good and I love me some Steve Grogan.

1792
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he used to be here a lot in

1793
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 1: the stadium, Mike. I absolutely love the guy. But he

1794
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 1: was the most consistently inconsistent player I've ever seen. And

1795
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 1: this people to this day will tell you he's by

1796
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 1: far and away the second best quarterback and franchise history

1797
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: behind Brady Yea. And half of those people only begrudgingly

1798
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 1: give Brady the not like it's a psychosis when it

1799
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 1: comes to the player that Grogan was. He ran around,

1800
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:36,600
Speaker 1: He wore a stupid neck brace. He knocked, you know,

1801
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: he would take on linebackers and the fans loved him

1802
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 1: because of it. And then he'd throw six picks and

1803
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 1: everybody said, yeah, but he's tough, like yeah, And we

1804
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs because he threw six paces. He

1805
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 1: would have stretches where he get hot, yeah, and then

1806
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 1: the next game he, like Paul said, he would just

1807
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:56,719
Speaker 1: get He was great coming off the bench and injecting life.

1808
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 1: I like the last half of his career, he became

1809
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: a really effective piece. That way, when Easton was was

1810
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,560
Speaker 1: bad and the offense was struggling, he'd come in and

1811
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: he'd run a naked bootleg and you know, run for

1812
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 1: a touchdown and stuff like that. Bone on bone. I mean,

1813
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,679
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I have nothing bad to say about Steve

1814
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: Grogan the person, but as a quarterback he was thoroughly,

1815
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: thoroughly average. It's definitely a window into a little bit

1816
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: of what makes Boston such a crazy sports town. And

1817
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like, and that's why I think

1818
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 1: when Mac was getting booed, it's like, I get it.

1819
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 1: This is how Pete fans are here. But I also

1820
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 1: know that like when you get when you win these

1821
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 1: fans over, they will love you forever, you know, and

1822
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 1: you don't even have to be the greatest of all time. Never,

1823
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 1: we never really had the flashy team, like even when

1824
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 1: the Celtics were great, you know, not the sixties. I

1825
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 1: mean the Bird. It was Larry Bird who was this

1826
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 1: like blue collar you know, guy who couldn't get six

1827
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 1: inches off the floor, you know, like but just did

1828
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:54,560
Speaker 1: it with his toughness and his smarts. And you know,

1829
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 1: the Bruins were the big bad Bruins, and you know,

1830
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 1: we weren't really flashy. You know. Am Neely for a

1831
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 1: while was like the best score we had and then

1832
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,600
Speaker 1: they took his knees out. You know. It's like so

1833
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 1: we were always like a team that did it, not

1834
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 1: with like the Gretzky or Joe Namath. You know, we

1835
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: were always I like Paul's comparison to Philly too, like

1836
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 1: the Broad Street bullies, like you know, just that like

1837
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 1: tea yeah, East Coast or Northeast. You know I should

1838
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 1: say tough guys. You know that's that was always, you know,

1839
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 1: the way we were, although New York seems like those

1840
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 1: teams kind of root for the big stars like those were,

1841
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, like the big like he might have been

1842
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 1: he like he might have been a thing for the Jets,

1843
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: but not the Giants because they're too you know, they're

1844
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 1: too high brow. Um yeah, I mean, friend's Boston point.

1845
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 1: I know what his point is. So instead of pushing

1846
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 1: back and like saying things like Bobby Or in like

1847
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, but even our great player, but

1848
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 1: he was a defenseman, but he was the greatest player

1849
01:32:54,280 --> 01:33:00,160
Speaker 1: of all time, well absolutely, you know, um, but like

1850
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 1: he never but he never got Like hardcore hockey fans

1851
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 1: know that Bobby Or was the best. But now when

1852
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 1: they talk about the best players of all time, they

1853
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 1: talk about Gretzky and Lemieux and Bobby you are kind

1854
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 1: of is like a side note unless you're from Boss Mike,

1855
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 1: right Mike. But I also helped me here. I also

1856
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 1: think though that they're certainly probably Bruins fans like in

1857
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 1: the seventy two were like, I mean, yeah, Bobby r

1858
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 1: is awesome, but I mean Derek Sanderson though, like, like

1859
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 1: the guy they really love is the Derek sand Buddons

1860
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,760
Speaker 1: in the world. But do you hear like hockey people

1861
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 1: say the greatest players of all time and not include

1862
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 1: Bobby Oh no, he's there him and Lemieux and yet

1863
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:41,679
Speaker 1: Gretzky you know how forty howe scorer, you know, longevity, yeah, playing,

1864
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 1: but Bobby or a shooter, Yeah, you know Rocket was shot.

1865
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: To say Bobby or was not flashy is like, I

1866
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what the definition of flashy

1867
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 1: is when you have a defenseman scoring one hundred points

1868
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 1: every year, right, I mean it's funny, is I mean?

1869
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 1: There was just a huge explosion of hockey here, I

1870
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 1: think without because Bobby were built and I was, you know,

1871
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 1: as a kid growing up late seventy early eighties, like,

1872
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a left handed shooting defenseman who

1873
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 1: like thinks he's boy like Bobby are kind of ruined

1874
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 1: me in some ways, thinking that like every time I'd

1875
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 1: get the puck, I'd stopped behind the net, sit over

1876
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 1: here when I saw Bobby, you do it? Yeah, pearl,

1877
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 1: you know it was one I did. Paul was stopped

1878
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 1: in back of the net and they had like the

1879
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: kids swooping in and did the old off off the

1880
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 1: back of the net. I did that like one of

1881
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 1: my first prep school practices. The coach came over and

1882
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 1: just started. He's like, that might have worked, and d

1883
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 1: three back in me. That's not gonna work, you know,

1884
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 1: chew me out. But that kind of stuff, you know,

1885
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 1: didn't work. Oh yeah, oh yeah. I was like some

1886
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 1: JV kid Andrew in la Um. I've been wondering why

1887
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 1: offenses have dropped off scoring. Here's my thoughts thoughts. The

1888
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:54,679
Speaker 1: top offenses have been dealing with injuries, aging, or trades.

1889
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 1: Last year, Dallas was the number one offense. This year

1890
01:34:57,640 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 1: they lost Cooper, Dak has been hurt, and Zeke is

1891
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 1: it goes Tampa. They're dealing with no Grant, no Ab

1892
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 1: Godwin is a shell of himself and has lost two steps.

1893
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 1: Evans has been dealing with an insane amount of drops.

1894
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 1: Oh and if left Witch calls one more run plan

1895
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 1: first down, I'll probably commit myself to an insane asylum.

1896
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo and Casey are still high octane. Charges have had

1897
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 1: their two wide receivers hurt, Rams no longer have OBJ

1898
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 1: or Bobby Trees, and their line is old. Arizona and

1899
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 1: Green Bay were tied for tenth last year. Arizona hasn't

1900
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 1: had Kerk, who I believe was underrated. They didn't have

1901
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 1: Hopkins for the first six weeks, and then Brown went

1902
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,719
Speaker 1: down and the Packers traded the actual two time MVP

1903
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 1: to the Raiders. I think this is why we have

1904
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 1: seen high octane. That's an excellent email. It's all true.

1905
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 1: It's an excellent email. Yeah. I did like the he's

1906
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 1: been dealing with drops. What is that? That seems like

1907
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 1: isn't he dropping the lall up? Yeah, it's not his fault,

1908
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 1: he's just he's dealing with them. I mean no, but

1909
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 1: like everything he said. Now, I would say that the

1910
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 1: larger issues with the Rams and the Bucks or offensive

1911
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 1: line late um, because I still think they both both

1912
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 1: of those teams have enough weapons to move the ball

1913
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 1: better than they have and Robert Woods wasn't on the

1914
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 1: Rams last year, so they didn't lose Bobby Trees. Um.

1915
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, that those are a lot of good points. Um.

1916
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 1: Some of the better offenses in the league have taken hits. Now.

1917
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 1: That said, there are other teams that should be better

1918
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 1: offensively than they have been, like the Raiders that Fred

1919
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 1: brought up earlier. And you also have a team like

1920
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 1: the Dolphins that is, you know, from nothing to you know,

1921
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 1: but their numbers won't say it because they had three

1922
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 1: games when that stiff too it wasn't playing and suddenly

1923
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 1: he went from like thirty five points a game down

1924
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 1: to nothing. So, Fred, before we wrap this up, I

1925
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 1: posted just some midseason award winners today, league wide, league wide, um,

1926
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 1: MVP of the league. Yeah, halfway point, don't be afraid.

1927
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 1: I there's no wrong answers spit him out. I mean,

1928
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 1: he says knowing that I sack him if he says

1929
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:09,639
Speaker 1: probably Josh Allen. But you know, yeah, so I picked

1930
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 1: two uh and yeah I picked him and it showed

1931
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:16,640
Speaker 1: when he was out there, right, that was that was

1932
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 1: part of my reasoning. Yes, I know a lot of

1933
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 1: people say he's a side that the same thing if

1934
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 1: Josh Allen was out, he's a side Well we'll see, yeah,

1935
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 1: oh Paul predicting What Paul predicting he's going to be out?

1936
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't think that's like a stretch. Really.

1937
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: Oh no, did you see like did you see him

1938
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 1: like holding his art? No? But then you said he

1939
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 1: thought he threw for seventy yards After that, I don't

1940
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 1: think that helped it, I know, But so they're gonna

1941
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 1: do a test. What if they find out that's it's

1942
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 1: not that bad, we'll just do this and that and

1943
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 1: the other thing. It seemed like that was what mort

1944
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 1: was pumping. Moret was saying, you know, I don't think

1945
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 1: it need to I mean, like, if I'm a Bills fan,

1946
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 1: I'm holding out hope it's not that bad, Morton, nothing

1947
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:59,759
Speaker 1: to worry about it anyway. That was part of my reasoning,

1948
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 1: was like, I know that everybody thinks two was a

1949
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 1: sidecar and just along for the ride. But when he

1950
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 1: was out, Teddy Bridgewater is a like a good serviceable

1951
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,640
Speaker 1: professional backup, right, and they didn't have anywhere near the

1952
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 1: production when he was playing, right, Like, I won't say

1953
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,800
Speaker 1: that he you know, the third the third string, seventh

1954
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 1: rounder Skyler Thompson. I'm not holding him to that stata,

1955
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 1: but they should have been like Buffalo is going to

1956
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 1: turn it over to case Keenum, who I think is

1957
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:30,640
Speaker 1: like Teddy Bridgewater, Like it should look okay, they have

1958
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 1: enough offensively, they should still be able to move the ball.

1959
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you they're going to score thirty five

1960
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 1: points a game, but the fact that Miami couldn't do

1961
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 1: anything offensively in those three games told me it wasn't

1962
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 1: just scheme. It was too I've been really impressed with him.

1963
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how Patriot fan couldn't be

1964
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 1: impressed with two after you haven't really had any answers

1965
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 1: for him over these in the past three years. So

1966
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm with you when you asked me that question. I mean,

1967
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 1: he's been consistent. As Fred said, he's proof when he

1968
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,760
Speaker 1: was worth when he was out. I still worry about him,

1969
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 1: you know, in bad weather, I'll see because what that

1970
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 1: that'll be like what New Year's Day here? Yep, yeah,

1971
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll play very well in that game.

1972
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 1: I would love it. So what I did was I

1973
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,679
Speaker 1: picked a winner and then I had like in the mix.

1974
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 1: So I had I did have Josh Allen, Um, Josh Allen,

1975
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, and Jalen Hurts were the other three guys

1976
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 1: that I had in the mix. I would say Mahomes definitely,

1977
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 1: could you know, especially after without Hills, you can make

1978
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 1: an argument that Mahomes is the MVP right now and

1979
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:37,559
Speaker 1: I don't. I wouldn't argue with you. What about Michael Parsons,

1980
01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:40,759
Speaker 1: So he's my Uh he's in the mix for Defensive

1981
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. You know who I picked Defensive

1982
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 1: Player of the half year? Matthew Matthew. Yeah, sure, he

1983
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:49,719
Speaker 1: has three more sacks than the next closest guy. Good Paul,

1984
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 1: And you know that. I wouldn't do it just for that. Yeah,

1985
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 1: like you make fun of me all the time anything

1986
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 1: but Patriots dot Com, which is not true. Um, but yeah,

1987
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:01,560
Speaker 1: I had Mica par Arson's was in the mix for

1988
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 1: that Offensive Player of the year, Offensive Player of the

1989
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 1: year half half year. I don't know, I just march.

1990
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 1: Why don't I just tell you I picked Tyree Keill. Okay,

1991
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 1: that's fair. Yeah, Yeah, I had Nick Chubb was in

1992
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 1: that mix. That's a good one. I think Derrick Henry

1993
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 1: was in that mix, So I don't want to get

1994
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,680
Speaker 1: you made. I don't know what's gonna happen. Coach of

1995
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 1: the year coach Nick Sirianni. I was just gonna say

1996
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:42,680
Speaker 1: Sirianni from the Eagles. Um no, Mike McDaniel. This is

1997
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 1: why I like to run these things by people before

1998
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 1: I post them. I didn't even have him in the mix. Guys, No,

1999
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: I didn't even have him in the mix. You were

2000
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 1: laughing at us, You were laughing at yourself. Yes, I

2001
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 1: forgot about Nick. Yeah. I picked Brian Dable as my

2002
01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 1: coach of the half year. He's a good one. I

2003
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 1: have no problem with my pick except for I put

2004
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 1: in the mix and I even put four coaches in

2005
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 1: the mix and didn't have Nick Sirianni as one of them.

2006
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 1: That's that's that's irons on my part. I had um

2007
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:14,680
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. Yeah, yeah, it was one of them. Mike

2008
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 1: mc daniel was one of them. Yeah. Uh. Kevin O'Connell. Yeah,

2009
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 1: I would say Seahawks are my biggest one of my

2010
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 1: biggest surprises. And I picked Geno Smith might come back

2011
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 1: the year. Yeah, it's an interesting kind of what did

2012
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:31,560
Speaker 1: he come back from? Paul playing bad. Well, he just

2013
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 1: kind of like obscurity. No, I know he hasn't played

2014
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeo Smith crazy? Does Mike Noir come back player of

2015
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 1: the year conundrum? What is that come back players? Paul

2016
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 1: doesn't like that Moniker, but no one does. I think

2017
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 1: it's usually the most famous guy who had the biggest

2018
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 1: injury right and then played the night and then came

2019
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,600
Speaker 1: back and played. Or did you stake one year and

2020
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 1: come back the next year? Yeah, I don't know what

2021
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 1: what is it? It's a nebulous term Weston Ada boy

2022
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 1: for somebody who who had some was down on their

2023
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:05,720
Speaker 1: luck for a season. Yeah, Josh and Turners Falls. My

2024
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 1: girlfriend surprised me with tickets to Sunday's game and it

2025
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 1: was great, only my second time to Gillette. Every point

2026
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 1: scored and play that was great, happen right in front

2027
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 1: of me in section one fifteen was awesome. People were

2028
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 1: blowing Mac and channing zappy and I got into it

2029
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:23,839
Speaker 1: with a couple mainly because they were wearing Mac jerseys,

2030
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 1: and that, to me is the crazy part. Booing a

2031
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 1: second year quarterback for a rookie. The offense as a

2032
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 1: whole needs help lots, but it's not all Mac opened

2033
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:37,839
Speaker 1: the freaking playbooks. Stop running on second and ten, Judeon

2034
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:41,800
Speaker 1: depends the Player of the year, Meyer's extension, Stevenson continuing

2035
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 1: to show promise. These are things I'm looking forward to.

2036
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 1: Love the show. I'll try to get a game in

2037
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:49,680
Speaker 1: later this week. Okay, Mike, you want to tell him

2038
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 1: about his complaint about stop running on second and ten.

2039
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the it's their strength. It's their strength,

2040
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 1: the only thing they do well on offense. Get away

2041
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:04,799
Speaker 1: from him that second and long runs technically second and medium.

2042
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 1: If we're getting we're gonna get too specific. But yeah.

2043
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 1: Russell in Arkansas says, in the topic of Tom coming

2044
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:14,680
Speaker 1: back to New England, would it be crazy to think

2045
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 1: that the Crafts could give Tom a piece of the

2046
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 1: pie in ownership? Maybe that will tickle Paul's pole Dilley

2047
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 1: Dilley's legal Yeah, well, it's not illegal if you declare it, right,

2048
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:29,960
Speaker 1: If you say, if you get approval by the league

2049
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 1: to do that, and it's part of its compensation, you

2050
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 1: have to like it's part of the salary cap. I mean,

2051
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,000
Speaker 1: based on the Miami thing, it seems like that's one

2052
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:38,800
Speaker 1: of the things that he probably would want, right, like

2053
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 1: to to to go to another team at this point.

2054
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 1: I mean that seems like that would that would that

2055
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:44,599
Speaker 1: would move the needle, As Paul says, I think, yeah,

2056
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 1: some equity. I don't think there's anything the Patriots could

2057
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 1: do to get Brady to come back here. I really

2058
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:53,559
Speaker 1: don't men fences another ten year run. I don't know everything,

2059
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:55,760
Speaker 1: and I don't mean I don't mean come back here

2060
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 1: like physically come like we're retiring your number, Tom, you

2061
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:03,120
Speaker 1: know whatever, Like I mean to come back and be

2062
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:08,680
Speaker 1: a leader, you know. Uh? John and Auburn writes in

2063
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 1: why wouldn't the Colts have called a draw after the

2064
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 1: third or fourth sack on third and long? On the replace?

2065
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 1: It seemed like Judan and Uche were flying up the backfield.

2066
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 1: A draw could have slowed them down, right, I don't yeah,

2067
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 1: I mean I think they called a couple of runs

2068
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 1: on third and long and those got taken down for

2069
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 1: like four and five yard games too. Like, I don't

2070
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 1: know that the Colts were overmatched realistically, though, Where do

2071
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 1: you think Brady could go next year? You guys said

2072
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 1: san fran Was that san France and the one everybody

2073
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 1: talks about? Yeah? Yeah? Anywhere else? You think he would.

2074
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't know where what he would be interested in,

2075
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:51,719
Speaker 1: but you know, New Orleans, Carolina, San fran Um, who else?

2076
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean, did I say the Raiders? Yeah, well yeah,

2077
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:59,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's no way Josh has fired right,

2078
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:02,920
Speaker 1: like the ye, we just can't. I can't imagine that

2079
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:06,560
Speaker 1: that you fire a guy in unless and you're not

2080
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 1: firing a guy in one year because of his record.

2081
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 1: Something has to happen, Like the players are in Davis

2082
01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:16,800
Speaker 1: you know Mac Davis's office every day, Like this guy's

2083
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 1: a clown. He's got to go, Like, um, why can't

2084
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 1: I think of his name? Nathaniel Hackett in Denver, by

2085
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:27,280
Speaker 1: all accounts, is over his head. Yeah. You know, if

2086
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 1: they decided to part ways with him after a year,

2087
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 1: it's not because the record is whatever it's gonna end up.

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01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:34,439
Speaker 1: It's gonna be because they didn't feel like he was

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01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 1: fit to be a coach, you know what I mean?

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01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 1: How do you make that mistake? That? I mean, just

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01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 1: such an important decision, so much money involves, so much

2092
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 1: focus on the media, and you and you get the

2093
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:47,639
Speaker 1: guy wrong in one year? Fred Fred guy, I will

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01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 1: tell you. And we've we've stood by this for years

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01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 1: I think it's harder to find the right coach than

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01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 1: it is the right quarterback. Yeah, it's true. I don't

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01:45:58,400 --> 01:45:59,639
Speaker 1: think there are a lot of goods. I don't think

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01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 1: there are a lot of great coaches in the NFL.

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01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:04,479
Speaker 1: There there aren't. That's not head coaches. That's why it's weird.

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01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni out of nowhere, Like, you know what, how

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01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:09,640
Speaker 1: do you know? How do you know? Like, how do

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01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: you know? Sean McVay. He's gonna work. But maybe all

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01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:18,640
Speaker 1: these other you know, Sean McVay wannabes, maybe they're not

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01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 1: gonna work. I don't know. Maybe some of them out

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01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, Zach Taylor has had some success. Maybe he

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01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing, you know. I like Lafleura up

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01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. I mean, his record is ridiculous. I

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01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 1: don't think he's I don't think he knows how to coach.

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Speaker 1: You know what. You know what really bugs me about him,

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01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 1: he knows, you know, these stupid things that bug me,

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01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, like I have my my my quirks when

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01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:42,840
Speaker 1: they're on defense at the end of the game and

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01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:45,559
Speaker 1: they need to stop and he's like exhorting the crowd.

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01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 1: He's in fan mode at that point, you're a head

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Speaker 1: coach of the Green Bay Packers, right right, and you're

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01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 1: you're you're you're a cheerleader. Wow. Um, we haven't really

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Speaker 1: We mentioned it briefly at the beginning of the show,

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01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:02,559
Speaker 1: But what do you think about like the Colts bringing

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01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 1: on Jeff Saturday to be the head coach. He's never

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01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 1: even coached in the NFL period, like at any level,

2121
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 1: Like the highest level he's ever coached was a couple

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01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:15,640
Speaker 1: of years in high school. Seriously, it's just like the

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01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 1: obviously your tanking eccentric. It's just you know, when you

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01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:21,679
Speaker 1: get a guy in there that the fans love, it's

2125
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 1: just a placeholder, I guess, And you know that's all

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01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 1: we're doing right now. But like, isn't that kind of

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01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:33,200
Speaker 1: an insult to the whole profession of coaching pretty much?

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01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 1: You know, like that they would do that I did

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01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 1: one of your other coaches to be an interim coach,

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01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, I mean everything you said I

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01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 1: agree with. But it seems like urse thinks this guy

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01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 1: is going to be the guy, but he's never done anything,

2133
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 1: like I know, like like I thought it was just

2134
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:54,479
Speaker 1: kind of a gimmick to get you through this. Listen,

2135
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:56,600
Speaker 1: We're not going to win any more games. I just

2136
01:47:56,680 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 1: want somebody just coming nest everybody, someone that we sort

2137
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 1: of control. Yeah, you know, shepherd us through these last

2138
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 1: eight weeks and you know, we'll make it worth your

2139
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 1: while and then you can. It didn't sound like Ursay

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01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 1: he was thinking that way. No, the way he was

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01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:17,559
Speaker 1: talking yesterday, Wow, that was oh god. He really is tough.

2142
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 1: But it does seem like an opportunity to you know,

2143
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 1: give someone a chance in some regard um. But I mean,

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01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 1: I don't know. It just seemed when I saw it,

2145
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:29,559
Speaker 1: I was like that that sounds about right. Jim Ursay

2146
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:31,639
Speaker 1: kind of doing his own thing, and that's how it's

2147
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 1: going to be with them. I don't know. Here's my

2148
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, whacked out theory on the whole could situation.

2149
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,600
Speaker 1: I think Frank Wright got what he wanted. Yeah, I

2150
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 1: think Frank Wright. I don't know if he resigned. He

2151
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:48,840
Speaker 1: may have actually gotten fired like they said, like they said,

2152
01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 1: but I think he didn't like the what was going

2153
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 1: going on. He didn't like what what was happening and

2154
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:58,559
Speaker 1: what they wanted to do in terms of like Matt Ryan,

2155
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 1: because this is a money thing. You know that, right,

2156
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:04,719
Speaker 1: there's there's a money component to Matt Ryan not playing

2157
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 1: any more games. You know, we're benching and this is

2158
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 1: not because of a shoulderman who we're benching him. You know,

2159
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 1: don't get this. Don't like to me. That didn't smell

2160
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 1: right from the start. And I think after a couple

2161
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 1: of weeks they're having a deal with the mess right.

2162
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 1: Just went to them and said, yeah, this isn't right.

2163
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 1: First of all, you owe the guy, you know, he's

2164
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 1: done nothing but be professional for us. You owe the

2165
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 1: guy a chance to play and work his way out

2166
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:29,640
Speaker 1: of this, whether it costs you money next year or not.

2167
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 1: And secondly, if you're going to give these guys a

2168
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 1: chance to win any games, you got to give me

2169
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 1: at least an opportunity to move the ball. Like I

2170
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:40,439
Speaker 1: heard I heard someone saying what happened at the Colts

2171
01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:42,920
Speaker 1: like last year at least you know, when they choked

2172
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 1: at the end of the year and lost their last two,

2173
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 1: but they were going to make the They went nine

2174
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 1: and eight last year and when Matt Ryan stopped playing quarterback,

2175
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 1: they were three two and one, Like it was the

2176
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:56,400
Speaker 1: same thing. Now they're not gonna they'll be lucky to

2177
01:49:56,439 --> 01:50:00,439
Speaker 1: win two more games based on what I saw on Sunday.

2178
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 1: If that, I mean, I don't know. It's like no,

2179
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 1: but I'm saying I don't know what the locker rooms like.

2180
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 1: If they're all Frank Wright guys and they really liked

2181
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:09,600
Speaker 1: their coach. I mean, but do you think there's a

2182
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 1: chance that he went to them and said, you know what,

2183
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, like you there there's a chance either do

2184
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:19,600
Speaker 1: right and get because I think this is an orchestrated

2185
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:24,720
Speaker 1: money saving venture for Matt Ryan and tanking. Yeah. I

2186
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:27,599
Speaker 1: think they have to get off the veteran quarterback carousel

2187
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 1: and they're tanking and in doing so. I think it's

2188
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 1: something like if Matt Ryan gets hurt and they have

2189
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 1: to guarantee a salary for next year when he's on

2190
01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 1: the books for like thirty six million or something like that.

2191
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 1: This is money. To me, This is all about money,

2192
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 1: and I think Reich might have said, this isn't right

2193
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:46,320
Speaker 1: what we're doing. Do you think that this, uh, I

2194
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:49,360
Speaker 1: don't want to say, puts this style in the grave

2195
01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 1: of trying to continually rebuild with just a free agent quarterback.

2196
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 1: I mean, the way the Patriots has done it, they

2197
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 1: had a year with a free agent and then they

2198
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:58,599
Speaker 1: drafted a guy and they're kind of now going through

2199
01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:02,840
Speaker 1: growing pains with that guy. I just I wonder just

2200
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 1: case study of difference of way of replacing that position.

2201
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 1: It seems like the two teams are both you know,

2202
01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 1: experiencing some some trouble with it. It's no easy way

2203
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 1: until you get the guy who gets in there. But

2204
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:15,680
Speaker 1: I just it's got to be a hard way to

2205
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:18,800
Speaker 1: live every year bringing in a new, fetching quarterback to

2206
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 1: adjust to them, gotta you know, tweet the systems and

2207
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff with you know, new guys,

2208
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 1: new leaders, new personalities. I don't think anybody ever would

2209
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:30,760
Speaker 1: have wanted to be on the free agent Carausel. Yeah.

2210
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 1: By design. It's when your team's like the Colts, when

2211
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 1: you're good but you're not great, but you're not bad

2212
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 1: enough to be in position to draft one of the

2213
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 1: one of the good quarterbacks. Like it's not like they're

2214
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 1: passing up quarterbacks in the draft to go with Philip

2215
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:51,599
Speaker 1: Rivers or you know, Carson went Denis and Ryan. Yeah,

2216
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 1: Brandon's in Oregon. What's up Brandon? Hey? Um, just how

2217
01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 1: to little entertaining prediction for next year. Since we're on

2218
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 1: the bye week, I want to see what you guys thought.

2219
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:10,040
Speaker 1: So if the quarterback play, regardless of if we make

2220
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs or not, if a quarterback play just continues

2221
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:16,280
Speaker 1: how it has been so far this season, my prediction

2222
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:20,880
Speaker 1: is that if things keep going south in Green Bay

2223
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:23,679
Speaker 1: and Rodgers is out of there, I got Rogers coming

2224
01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 1: to New England on maybe like a two year deal

2225
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:30,720
Speaker 1: something like that, and him and Belichick go for a

2226
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 1: Super Bowl before both of them hang it up. Yeah,

2227
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:37,599
Speaker 1: I mean, certainly, the way Bill was talking up Aaron Rodgers,

2228
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:41,720
Speaker 1: I can see where you would think that. I don't know. Yeah,

2229
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:45,639
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what he's sank two years? Rogers coming here

2230
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:48,719
Speaker 1: next year and you don't know that whether that'll happen

2231
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:51,280
Speaker 1: or not. Yeah, okay, I'll clear it up for you, won't. No,

2232
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:53,919
Speaker 1: I said I could see. I can't. I can understand

2233
01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:56,560
Speaker 1: the way Bill talked up Aaron Rodgers, people thinking that,

2234
01:52:57,280 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think it'll happen. I just say,

2235
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 1: I think Max back next year. I think they're I

2236
01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 1: think they're gonna do it. You think so, yeah, you

2237
01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:09,760
Speaker 1: think so? Yeah? I think fifty point three million, that's

2238
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,800
Speaker 1: what Aaron Rodgers makes yeah, I could see that happen

2239
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 1: in two years. But milliscount to come here play with

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01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 1: Thanks Brandon, these guys all right, that's gonna be it

2241
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,719
Speaker 1: for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back tomorrow,

2242
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:27,360
Speaker 1: big day tomorrow, turning our eyes to the bye week tomorrow,

2243
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:29,639
Speaker 1: we turn the page to the bye week, but Evan

2244
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 1: will be here tomorrow. Practice tomorrow, so not that injuries

2245
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 1: really matter the bye week, but we'll get the mood,

2246
01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 1: maybe Andy pet the mood. Maybe Catch twenty two next

2247
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:42,639
Speaker 1: week's tomorrow. So we'll have a big, big day tomorrow.

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