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Speaker 2: It's almost surreal because I was at his investiture when

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Speaker 7: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of

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Speaker 1: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose.

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Speaker 2: If that answer is to save my country, this country

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Speaker 6: Waro use your host, Stephen k Ban.

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Speaker 5: All right, good morning everyone, another huge newsday, tons of

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Speaker 6: What's going on?

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Speaker 8: A nunsu vobiscaudium manum abel musa and simum roberttum francisco

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Speaker 1: Sit down and talk to them.

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Speaker 8: He won't offend them, he won't have his disgust of

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Ben, good coverage.

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Speaker 8: Look, Francis hasn't picked anybody who was in disagreement with

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Speaker 8: And they could have gone for someone more militant, they couldn't.

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Speaker 9: Very good.

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Speaker 5: We've got Wall Street, We've got the tax cuts on

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Speaker 10: Unfortunately, Pope Francis worked out an agreement in twenty eighteen

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Speaker 6: Yep yep I spot on.

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Speaker 6: I thought this was America first.

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Speaker 5: I think, is why the Catholic Church is so important.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, Dave, the PRC isn't a crisis, as you said,

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Speaker 9: They're communists, right.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 9: Losing the legitimacy of the Church in China.

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Speaker 5: Yes, good, Hey, Ben, are you sitting right there? You

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 8: I was listening to what you were saying, doctor Thayer.

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Speaker 9: I would hope. So, Ben, I don't know.

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Speaker 9: But I would hope that's the case.

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Speaker 10: Again, we need a John Paul the second at this time.

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Speaker 8: Well, my point, based on what Doctor Day was just saying,

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Speaker 8: possibility for a change of position with regards to the Vatican,

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Speaker 8: the CCP, and of course the US administration.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, hugely important issues.

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Speaker 5: One point four billion people live in China, all creating

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Speaker 5: the image of God. They can be our partners for

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Speaker 5: good on this earth and we can all live together

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Speaker 5: and mutually benefit if.

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Speaker 6: We structure it right. More on that structure next war room.

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Speaker 6: Use your hosts. Came all right back in the war room,

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Speaker 6: Stephen K.

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Speaker 5: Mannon and the team gave me a piece to covered

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Speaker 5: today from the Hill. Trump pushes Republicans to have rich

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Speaker 5: pay more taxes.

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Speaker 6: Not sure if that's true. I'm gonna lead you through.

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Speaker 5: The article in just a few minutes, and then we

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Speaker 5: got Terry Shilling coming on board to give us all

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Speaker 5: things public policy as well.

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Speaker 6: But this is gonna be a white hot debate, right.

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Speaker 6: A lot of folks.

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Speaker 5: Said this is over Republicans never raised taxes, and that

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Speaker 5: in itself is quite an overstatement as we get into

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Speaker 5: the details of the peace. The reporters did have to

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Speaker 5: acknowledge some truth at the end of the article. So

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Speaker 5: they start off the proposal according to three sources in

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Speaker 5: the White House, but they don't name any of the.

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Speaker 6: Sources, and that makes it hard right off the bat.

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Speaker 5: The credibility here is what is the White House actually saying.

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Speaker 5: I saw President Trump a few weeks back saying dismissing

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Speaker 5: this a little bit, saying, no, we don't want the

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Speaker 5: rich to leave. At other times he's been nuanced on it,

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Speaker 5: so it's not clear. One of the sources said the

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Speaker 5: President had made the policy request as recently as Wednesday,

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Speaker 5: but again no names are named. And so you know,

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Speaker 5: come on, Hill, you guys know what you're doing. I

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Speaker 5: google the two reporters and they look nice and I'm

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Speaker 5: sure they're doing.

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Speaker 6: Their best, but they the news is the news.

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Speaker 5: You guys, just tell the truth, spit it out, be transparent.

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Speaker 5: Our site is transparent and the news media is not.

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Speaker 5: So then we get to the rate. So the White

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Speaker 5: House is pitching a new higher rate. Supposedly if you

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Speaker 5: believe this, that would apply to those with incomes greater

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Speaker 5: than two and a half million dollars, incomes of two

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Speaker 5: and a half million dollars and five million for a family.

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Speaker 6: So that's you know that now we're down.

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Speaker 5: Into the less than zero point one percent of American people.

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Speaker 6: So those on the conservative side.

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Speaker 5: That go apoplectic, you know, maybe be less apoplectic less

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Speaker 5: than zero point one percent of folks here, And as

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Speaker 5: Bessin has said, maybe it's time for main street to

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Speaker 5: have a turn here. And I don't like tax increases

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Speaker 5: at all, and I certainly don't want them on the

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Speaker 5: rich and on the manufacturing piece. We got another guess

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Speaker 5: coming on, Brian Costello, who's got novel ideas on trading

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Speaker 5: the rich who just do trades all day, trade the transactions.

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Speaker 5: That's that's an interesting idea if you're not producing anything

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Speaker 5: and you're just learning these novel ideas of how to

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Speaker 5: make zero zero point zero zero zero one percent more

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Speaker 5: out of someone's out of the rich folks's market basket

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Speaker 5: of stocks.

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Speaker 6: I don't I don't like that as much.

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Speaker 5: I want to incentivize manufacturing and production in capital, which

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Speaker 5: is what Trump is doing. A little bit more, the

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Speaker 5: President said, I certainly don't mind having a taxi increase,

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Speaker 5: but he expressed some apprehension on the.

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Speaker 6: Idea for political reasons.

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Speaker 5: He said, but I just want to get to some

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Speaker 5: remarks from our guys, and I think this is Steve

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Speaker 5: Bannon's logic as well. Grover Norquiz comes in. I'm friends

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Speaker 5: with Grover. President America's tax reform set on Wednesday.

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Speaker 6: You know this.

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Speaker 5: We oppose to this. This is not Republican policy. David McIntosh,

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Speaker 5: president of Club for Growth. I know, David McIntosh said

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Speaker 5: in a statement, scaling back to side of the scope

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Speaker 5: with four trillion dollar tax cut will help the Democrats.

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Speaker 6: Raise taxes.

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Speaker 5: This is not a serious option in its political suicide.

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Speaker 5: And so the problem that we have on the populace

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Speaker 5: side is all these voices are out there talking about

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Speaker 5: tax cuts for the rich, but they're not talking about

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Speaker 5: Congress over spending. Notice, all the lobbyists are there for

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Speaker 5: the tax cuts for the rich. We don't have any

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Speaker 5: lobbyists for the American people who are paying the bill

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Speaker 5: for all this. Right, So, no one's cutting the seven

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Speaker 5: trillion dollar budget. It's not going to go down much

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Speaker 5: at all. Steve's been covering it brilliantly for the last months.

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Speaker 5: It looks like spending might even go up. There's some hope.

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Speaker 6: Well, we'll see.

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Speaker 5: If we get a seventeen percent reduction in that non

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Speaker 5: defense discretionary, that's promising. But that's a small piece, and

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Speaker 5: so I just kind of wanted to lay out some

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Speaker 5: of the arguments.

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Speaker 6: Go look up the.

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Speaker 5: Hill article, refresh yourselves. The American people can make this point.

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Speaker 5: But I think we ought to use that tax piece

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Speaker 5: as leverage. If the rich have lobbyists at work, why

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Speaker 5: don't you put those lobbyists in charge of cutting spending

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Speaker 5: as well. If we get the government to disappear, then

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Speaker 5: business will flourish. We all want that. That's the outcome

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Speaker 5: we want. I want economic growth. I've spent my whole

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Speaker 5: life on economic growth, and so this is the way

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Speaker 5: to do it.

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Speaker 6: We need to team up and reduce government spending.

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Speaker 5: The tax guys say, well, if you tax the rich

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Speaker 5: or whatever, you know, you're just going to provide more

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Speaker 5: money for government, well, the Federal Reserve and every institution

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Speaker 5: is doing that already. The Milton Friedman logic has not worked.

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Speaker 5: And I'm a Milton Friedman fanatic. Steve maxmy for being

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Speaker 5: multi Friedman junior, right, and so I just want to

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Speaker 5: share a few thoughts. This has to major league implications

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Speaker 5: for politics and the Republican Party going forward, and that's

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Speaker 5: my thoughts on the issue.

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Speaker 6: Is, as always, all political views on my own. You see,

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Speaker 6: we got the liberty on the sweatshirt and it's graduation.

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Speaker 6: I'm so proud of our kids over here.

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Speaker 5: We got the best students in the world, the most ethical, thoughtful,

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Speaker 5: spiritual students who are going to go out in the

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Speaker 5: world and do great things. So my policy statements for

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Speaker 5: those on the show do not reflect my university or

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Speaker 5: other institutions I work with the Policy Front. We're lucky

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Speaker 5: to have Terry shilling with us. He's an expert across

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Speaker 5: the board. He knows more than me on how DC works,

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Speaker 5: and so Terry, uh, give me, give me a grade

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Speaker 5: on the policy comments and then share us what you

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Speaker 5: have to share today, I think in your space.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for being with.

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Speaker 1: Us, well, thanks so much. Congressman, and it's great. I

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Speaker 1: always see you.

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Speaker 7: And then when it comes to economic policy, I typically

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Speaker 7: just listen to Dave Bratt and do what he tells me.

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Speaker 6: So listen.

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Speaker 1: I want to come on, because these.

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Speaker 7: Guys are in Congress are starting to squish out in

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Speaker 7: this big, beautiful bill.

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Speaker 1: In the House. We have an opportunity.

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Speaker 7: You know, America is thirty seven trillion dollars in debt

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Speaker 7: and we have an opportunity to defund one of the

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Speaker 7: most evil organizations in American history, Planned Parenthood. They have

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Speaker 7: five hundred billion dollars a year. They perform half of

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Speaker 7: America's abortions, and there's no reason they should get a

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Speaker 7: single dollar of tax dollar funding because they spend sixty

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Speaker 7: million dollars a year in elections to unelect Republicans and

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Speaker 7: attack them. This is a partisan organization. But here's where

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Speaker 7: it gets really interesting. Dave is Planned Parenthood just had

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Speaker 7: an expos they done on them by Lyla Rose at

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Speaker 7: Live Action, where it was uncovered that Planned Parenthood is

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Speaker 7: sending puberty blockers, drugs cross sex hormones to minors without

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Speaker 7: their parents' knowledge or consent, and they're doing it within

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Speaker 7: the first appointment This is absolutely egregious. These Hubrey blockers

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Speaker 7: and cross sex hormones that we're putting these kids onto.

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Speaker 1: This whole transgender industry is killing these kids.

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Speaker 7: It's making their lives miserable, it's taking away their ability

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Speaker 7: to ever have a family. So I wanted to come

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Speaker 7: on because I know how strong the war room Posse

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Speaker 7: is and just urge all of you, even if you

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Speaker 7: have a good member of Congress, they need to hear

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Speaker 7: from you, and they need to know that you want

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Speaker 7: them to defund Planned Parenthood because Planned Parenthood is giving

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Speaker 7: our kids sex change for sdure drugs, and they're also

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Speaker 7: performing half of America's abortions. They fund campaigns elections against

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Speaker 7: Republicans that if you were in Congress, you know how

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Speaker 7: pathetic it is that these Republicans would want to give

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Speaker 7: half a billion dollars to this evil organization when they're

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Speaker 7: sending tens of millions of dollars every election to throw

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Speaker 7: these guys out, punish the wicked.

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Speaker 1: We need to get these guys out.

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Speaker 7: They're killing our kids, they're killing our babies, and they're

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Speaker 7: trying to get us out of power. They shouldn't get

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Speaker 7: a single dollar of taxpayer funding. Especially because we're thirty

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Speaker 7: seven trillion dollars in debt. So I just want to

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Speaker 7: come on, Light these guys up. Call Congress. Look up

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Speaker 7: your member of Congress, every one of you. Again, even

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Speaker 7: if it's a good member of Congress. You need to

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Speaker 7: make your voices heard because they cracked these calls, they

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Speaker 7: monitor them, and they vote accordingly. Especially if you're in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 7: There's Brian Fitzpatrick is one of the guys that's rumored

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Speaker 7: to be causing some problems here. So light his phones up.

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Speaker 7: Light up all these guys. We've got to make sure

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Speaker 7: our voices are heard here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Terry, great analysis. We're funding this right. This is

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Speaker 5: the federal government intrusion in our lives. Par excellence on

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Speaker 5: moral issues that a century ago, we're just unquestioned. What's

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Speaker 5: the polling on these issues where the American people side.

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Speaker 5: It seems that our squishes are having a hard time

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Speaker 5: listening to the American people.

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Speaker 7: Well, Dave, I'm so glad you asked that, because I

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Speaker 7: came with the t look on the transgender issue, specifically,

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Speaker 7: when it comes to taxpayer funding. This isn't an eighty

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Speaker 7: twenty issue. It's not a sixty four issue.

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Speaker 1: This is a ninety ten issue.

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Speaker 7: Even Democrats don't want their tax dollars funding sex change procedures,

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Speaker 7: not just for miners, but for inmates for anything.

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Speaker 1: They don't want tax dollars.

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Speaker 7: If you want to get a sex change, fine, but

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Speaker 7: you got to pay for it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not paying for it. I got seven kids. I

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Speaker 1: pay enough in.

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Speaker 7: Taxes, right, So the pulling on this is very clear.

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Speaker 7: Defunding planned parenthood is extremely popular, but also the issue

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Speaker 7: of funding abortions and sex change procedures.

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Speaker 1: It's a ninety ten issue.

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Speaker 7: You are voting, You were siting with the Democrats on

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Speaker 7: the wrong side of a ninety ten issue. If you

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Speaker 7: are voting to fund abortions and sex change procedures through

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Speaker 7: planned parent this is a winning issue and it's actually

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Speaker 7: something that President Trump used to get elected. Dave, You

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Speaker 7: remember that they them at You know, Kamala Harris is

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Speaker 7: for the them, Donald Trump's for you. The central message

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Speaker 7: there was that Kamala Harris supported sex change procedure, funding

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Speaker 7: sex change forceeders for federal inmates. That was what I

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Speaker 7: was seeing more times by more people and was the

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Speaker 7: most remembered attack in the post election focus groups.

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Speaker 1: It's a winning issue with Zach leader.

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Speaker 5: Let me ask you this, because you know we're losing

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Speaker 5: House and Senate momentum.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 5: Trump has shown the way clearly. You go in full

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Speaker 5: steam with guts and you tell the American people this

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Speaker 5: is what I'm running on, and then you execute on

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Speaker 5: what you run on. And he wins the election bigger

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Speaker 5: than anyone thought possible because he came in with a plan.

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Speaker 6: And so how do we shift the House?

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Speaker 5: If the House leadership would come in with the top

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Speaker 5: right a contract with America in the Senate, which they

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Speaker 5: have not done right, and then they're scared of losing

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Speaker 5: the midtern It's all about fear, and that's that's where

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Speaker 5: no way to lead, right. You can't lead out of fear.

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Speaker 5: We need to lead with boldness and confidence. And if

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Speaker 5: the American people don't want what we want, then that's okay.

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Speaker 6: But the American people do what we have on offer.

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Speaker 5: So what's your challenge to leadership to set up a

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Speaker 5: contract and to make some promises ahead of this? Then

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Speaker 5: I think we win. Trump showed us we have the

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Speaker 5: people to win. So what's the hang up?

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Speaker 7: Well, I'll tell you, Speaker, Mike Johnson's actually a huge advocate,

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Speaker 7: and he's been asking for some additional pressure on these Well,

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry I shouldn't say that he has, but we

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Speaker 7: have friends in leadership that have been saying he's with

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Speaker 7: us on this, but he needs to get these guys

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Speaker 7: more pressure to get them on board. Look, we have

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Speaker 7: a four seat majority in the House right and these

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Speaker 7: guys need to feel the heat. So again, I apologize

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Speaker 7: for I spoke out a turn about Speaker Johnson. He

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Speaker 7: has not spoken me directly about this, but now you

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Speaker 7: know he supports the funny playing Parenthood. You know, we

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Speaker 7: know that he's behind us, but he's got a four

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Speaker 7: volte majority and we've got to get these guys in

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Speaker 7: line because if we lose those four votes for this bill,

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Speaker 7: it won't pass.

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Speaker 1: And remember back of the drawing board.

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Speaker 7: It's a good bill so far, but we've got to

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Speaker 7: make sure that defunding Playing Parenthood and defunding these transurgeries

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Speaker 7: is included in there.

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Speaker 6: Yep, Terry, thanks for being with us.

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Speaker 5: Ben Harnwell, you want any comment arry on Terry's proposals?

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Speaker 8: So well, Michael, I know we've only got like a

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Speaker 8: minute left, but I would have said I would have

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Speaker 8: asked Terry, who's principally involved with the American Principles Project

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Speaker 8: to using sort of conservative issues as the means to

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Speaker 8: getting conservative voters to come out and support their candidates.

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Speaker 8: I wanted to ask him whether he saw the rise

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Speaker 8: of the woke phenomenon over the last ten years, a

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Speaker 8: specifically attributable to the presence of Betgolio on the papal phone,

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Speaker 8: on whether that is a fact in the in his

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Speaker 8: strategy in fighting his neck of the coaching wolf.

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Speaker 1: Oh, and Ben, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 7: I think I think Brigolio as Polpe really hurt our

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Speaker 7: ability to rein in and push back against the woke

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Speaker 7: movement because so many of the things he was saying

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Speaker 7: and bunteressing and the people he was attacking, specifically President Trump, right,

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Speaker 7: and he Brgolio would attack President Trump for building a

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Speaker 7: border wall, for securing our border, but he would say

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Speaker 7: nothing against Joe Biden, who supported giving kids second change proceders,

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Speaker 7: who wanted to advance abortion rights. Joe Biden's policy was

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Speaker 7: that America didn't have enough abortions in it, and Brigolio

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Speaker 7: didn't say a word against that.

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Speaker 1: It was egregious, all right, And.

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Speaker 5: So closing out five seconds, Stay with us, Ben, Terry,

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Speaker 5: stay with us.

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Speaker 6: After the break, Ben will be back with you. Use

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Speaker 6: your host.

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Speaker 1: Stephen came back.

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Speaker 5: All right, back in the war room with Terry Shilling,

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Speaker 5: who's a very recognized face up on Capitol Hill. He

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Speaker 5: covers his own host of issues, covering the least amongst us,

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Speaker 5: the unborn, those who are experiencing injustice. But he also

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Speaker 5: understands the process on Capitol Hill very.

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Speaker 6: Well and his friends with all the.

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Speaker 5: Conservative groups, and we do have a great, great combination,

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Speaker 5: great team that cover all the assorted issues up on Hill,

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Speaker 5: but we just don't We don't have the juice that

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Speaker 5: the left does because of Act Blue and the coordination

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Speaker 5: of globalist money, etc. But I'm curious, Terry, do you

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Speaker 5: feel the wind blowing at our back? The usai D

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Speaker 5: scandal kind of shone the light on a lot of

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Speaker 5: news organizations, the FBI, the CIA, the CIA cutouts.

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Speaker 6: The Atlanta groups.

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Speaker 5: Can you see any impact already It's only been a

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Speaker 5: month or two, But just curious as to how you

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Speaker 5: view what's going on the hill now.

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Speaker 7: Well, look, David, I think that what President Trump has

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Speaker 7: done by cutting back on USAD and all the ex

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Speaker 7: those a's that have been done on them has actually

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Speaker 7: had a great impact against them. Right, if you look

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Speaker 7: at the Democrats' approval rating, you know, President Trump is

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Speaker 7: in the mid to high forties for his approval rating

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Speaker 7: and Democrats are in the twenties the low twenties. Right,

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Speaker 7: they have a twenty three to twenty five percent approval

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Speaker 7: rating across the country, and they get worse as the

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Speaker 7: younger generations start telling their opinions. So look, I think

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Speaker 7: that there's a tie turning. There's the two most recent

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Speaker 7: elections where the incumbent president retained control of both chambers

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Speaker 7: of Congress was two thousand and two.

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Speaker 1: And nineteen ninety eight.

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Speaker 7: Nineteen ninety eight, Bill Clinton kept control because Americans viewed

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Speaker 7: Republicans is overreaching and overstepping on the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

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Speaker 7: And in two thousand and two President Bush maintained control

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Speaker 7: of Congress after he branded Democrats as obstructionists. You go

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Speaker 7: fast forward to today and in twenty twenty six, I

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Speaker 7: think we're going to do the same thing. I think

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Speaker 7: we're going to retain control of bull chambers because the

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Speaker 7: Democrats aren't just obstructing, they're destroying and they're destroying our children.

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Speaker 7: They won't drop this trans issue right if you look

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Speaker 7: at what And by the way, they're also against tariffs now.

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Speaker 7: And I know, look there's a conservative debate right now,

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Speaker 7: but the Democratic base, their party, it has been supporting terrorifts.

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Speaker 7: When my dad was a member of Congress, the biggest

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Speaker 7: attack against him was that he wouldn't raise taxes on

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Speaker 7: companies that ship jobs overseas.

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Speaker 1: You fast forward to today and those Democrats.

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Speaker 7: Are now all supporting these may good corporations that are

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Speaker 7: building their companies off of slave labor in China. It's

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Speaker 7: absolutely insane. So I'm very optimistic in the midterms. I

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Speaker 7: actually think we could possibly gain some seats in the

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Speaker 7: House and expand our majority. But Dave, you know as

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Speaker 7: well as I do that that's not going to happen

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Speaker 7: if these Republicans keep squishing out. Look, if you don't

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Speaker 7: have the cojones to defund Planned parenthood, which gets half

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Speaker 7: a billion dollars a year to kill our babies, prevent

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Speaker 7: more burths, and sterilize our children. Dep we have thirty

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Speaker 7: seven trillion dollars in debt and our birth rates are

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Speaker 7: below replacement levels. It is not in the interests of

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Speaker 7: the United States of America. For less babies to be born,

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Speaker 7: and more babies to be killed, and more children to

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Speaker 7: be sterilized and preventing from having their own children someday.

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Speaker 7: This is insane. Planned parenthood needs to go the same

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Speaker 7: way at the Ku Klux Klan. They are an evil organization.

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Speaker 1: They were meant.

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Speaker 7: They were originally founded to keep the black population under

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Speaker 7: They start all these planned parenthoods where in black communities

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Speaker 7: and where we've gotten so far is so overwellian because

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Speaker 7: the Democrats say that, yeah, of course we're opening planned

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Speaker 7: parenthoods to keep killing black babies and keep black people from.

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Speaker 1: Having their own families. That that's what we do. This

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Speaker 1: is how we serve people.

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Speaker 7: They think that serializing young people and killing babies and

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Speaker 7: preventing people from having families is good.

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Speaker 1: I disagree. President Trump disagrees.

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Speaker 7: Republicans need to disagree, and we need to defund this

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Speaker 7: evil organization that has been a peculiar institution in America.

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Speaker 7: It's far past nine. You guys need to light up

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Speaker 7: these members of Congress again. I can't tell you enough.

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Speaker 7: Look up your member of Congress, even if they're good,

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Speaker 7: I call them today. Call them until the stills past.

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Speaker 7: Make sure that flan parenthood is defunded.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they can't be doing this.

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Speaker 5: And the way you put it right there, which is

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Speaker 5: very interesting, right, we're killing our own kids.

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Speaker 6: The fortune five hundred.

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Speaker 5: The globalist leaders say we have a worker shortage in

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Speaker 5: this country, we have a crisis.

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Speaker 6: They don't invest in saving lives.

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Speaker 5: They all vote the other side, and then we don't

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Speaker 5: take care of the kids. We're paying twenty thousand dollars

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Speaker 5: per kid for K to twelve education and the kids

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Speaker 5: can't read right. And then they go on to our

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Speaker 5: higher eds and they get in doctrinated instead of learning

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Speaker 5: any reading, writing, and arithmetic, and it's a disaster. And

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Speaker 5: then also when you talked about President Trump on the

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Speaker 5: political side, all political views are.

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Speaker 6: My own, but it is stunning.

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Speaker 5: AOC now is running on this child trafficker, gang member,

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Speaker 5: arrested wife, abuse her, and she's hanging her.

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Speaker 6: Hat on that issue.

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Speaker 5: And Trump came out and said, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 5: he's always funny, guy, The guy is always funny. He's like,

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Speaker 5: you know, I think this issue for AOC, I don't

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Speaker 5: think it's good. It's gonna be like the boys and

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Speaker 5: the girls locker rooms just ain't good. He's just the

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Speaker 5: way he puts it, it's just so common sense. But

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Speaker 5: they're seriously running on the most absurd issues only because

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Speaker 5: our side allows them. If all of our members would

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Speaker 5: just go on TV today and say what you just said,

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Speaker 5: this is absurd, it's evil, this is morally a right.

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Speaker 5: We cannot do this. And you laid out the history

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Speaker 5: of these groups. It's all there for everyone to read.

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Speaker 5: But we don't own the megaphone, right, we don't own

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Speaker 5: the mainstream media.

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Speaker 6: It's still very powerful, right.

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Speaker 5: The folks they hit it's very powerful. And I'll let

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Speaker 5: you close in with a final minute. But I also

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Speaker 5: just wanted to bring more good news. The trade deal

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Speaker 5: with the UK England. It was great. Every other country

843
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 5: in the world is lined up. The world is coming

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Speaker 5: our way also, Right, the Dems are horrified and so

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Speaker 5: are some of our business folks.

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Speaker 6: That the Trump agenda is actually going to work.

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Speaker 5: Right if he pulls off this tariff piece and gets

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Speaker 5: tax cuts to speed up the economy and gets a

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Speaker 5: booming energy sector to speed up and lower costs on everything,

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Speaker 5: I think we're standing tall, and so i'll let you

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Speaker 5: close final minute Terry's yours.

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Speaker 6: Go ahead.

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Speaker 7: Look, we just got we got to our loins. We

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Speaker 7: got to buckle up. We gotta put pressure on these swishes.

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Speaker 7: This is our job, guys. The founding fathers left it

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Speaker 7: to us to put pressure on these members of Congress.

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Speaker 7: Make your voice her. Call your member of Congress today.

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Speaker 7: Don't wait, do it right now, do it in the middle.

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Speaker 7: Show Google your member of Congress. Find their phone number,

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Speaker 7: it's on their official website. Call them and tell them.

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Speaker 7: Don't just tell them, demand that they defund planned parenthood.

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Speaker 1: We got too much debt thirty.

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Speaker 7: Seven trillion, and we have way too many abortions this

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Speaker 7: country and not a enough How they be You'm born.

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Speaker 1: We got to say this country, how did they get you? Terry?

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Speaker 6: Go ten seconds?

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Speaker 7: Chilling seventeen seventy six on all the major platforms. Chilling,

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Speaker 7: seventeen seventy six.

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Speaker 6: All right, Terry, you're a prophet.

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Speaker 5: You're out there shouting the tough stuff that needs to

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Speaker 5: be heard for the sake of our babies and our

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Speaker 5: kids in this country.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for doing what you do. God bless your brother.