1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Are you ready to witness football? 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Fans, Welcome to the biggest tailgate party in the nation. 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 3: That Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff. 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: Presented by Bett make it legendary. We're setting you up 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: with the information you need to watch your team win. 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 4: Let's go. 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: We're here to break it all down. 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff, presented. 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: By Bett emg app. No, we're live from your tailgate. 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: Here's Brian Nook, former Penn State All American, Rich Hornberger, 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: and FSR betting analyst Jared Smith. 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 4: Oh, what is going on? 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 5: Happy Saturday to you, another full day of college football action. 14 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 6: Smell it in the air. Good morning, Rich, Good morning. 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 5: We got Rich and Jared over here. And yeah, you know, listen, man, 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 5: smells like ball. 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 4: That smells like ball. 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 5: Smells like ball today. And I'll tell you what before 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 5: we get to the previews, one particular review, My gosh, 20 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 5: we just have to rip the band aid off sometimes, 21 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 5: you Penn State reacks, What do you have to say 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 5: for yourself? 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: What? 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 5: What in the name of James Franklin was that last week? 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 6: Are you kidding me? 26 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 7: What in the name of James frank James Franklin indeed, 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 7: you know, it's a tricky thing navigating these waters because 28 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 7: as a alumni and a former football player with Penn 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 7: State and I I'm going to be driving up the 30 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 7: I five and watching Penn State take on U C 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 7: l A and the rose Ball hoping for different results. 32 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, this one good at that one. I think 33 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 4: about this one. Yeah. 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 7: But but as a as a as a Penn stater 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 7: and uh and and watching that game heartbreaking, right, you 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 7: know you don't you don't ever want to see results 37 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 7: like that. However, if you can remove yourself and zoom out, 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 7: and this is hard to do, if you had any 39 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 7: rooting interest in this game, try to remove yourself just 40 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 7: from that and look at it through the purview of 41 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 7: just somebody who enjoys football. What a game, Holy smokes. 42 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 7: I mean, it had drama, the scene was set. The 43 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 7: comeback was awesome. I give them a lot of credit 44 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 7: for getting back in the game, tying that game, getting 45 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 7: into overtime. The first down interception was something less than awesome. 46 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 4: In overtime, that one hurt a little bit. 47 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 7: But but that was an incredible game and a gutsy 48 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 7: performance from a team who obviously was favored and went 49 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 7: down and and had battle their way back on their 50 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 7: home field. 51 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 4: Uh, it was. 52 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 7: It was a great effort, a poor result, and again 53 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 7: another unfortunate notch in the growing list of failures for 54 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 7: James Franklin's program to get over the hump against top 55 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 7: competition in in the FBS. 56 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 4: It is now. 57 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 7: I don't know if you want to call it a 58 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 7: self fulfilling prophecy, guys, but but there's there's a problem 59 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 7: here and it's got to get fixed, and it's got 60 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 7: to get fixed soon. Because there's a lot of money 61 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 7: that's funneling into college football. That's a big time program, 62 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 7: that's that's taking a lot of contributions from a lot 63 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 7: of people. There's a lot more voices in the room 64 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 7: than ever before, and when opinions start to sour, even 65 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 7: if they're unfounded opinions, it doesn't matter if it's if 66 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 7: it's the opinion of those who are contributing the most. 67 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 7: And unfortunately these opinions aren't unfounded. There is results, there are, 68 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 7: you know, implications being made that really don't have defense. Jared, 69 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 7: I don't know how you feel about the whole situation. 70 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 7: I did see some of your tweets following the game, 71 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 7: So I'll let you fill in the blanks. But I mean, 72 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 7: I was heartbroken for the team, but as a college 73 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 7: football fan, I was enthusiastically, charismatically rooting for a great game, 74 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 7: and that's exactly what we got. 75 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, let's start with the good. 76 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 9: Dante More is the real deal, probably gonna win the Heisman. 77 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 9: Oregan's legit. They're young, they're very talented. They're a fun 78 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 9: team to watch. Dan Lanning has this team playing with 79 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 9: an edge. He coaches with an edge, and I don't 80 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 9: expect them to be a dog much for the rest 81 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 9: of the year. 82 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 8: There's your positive the negative. 83 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 9: I honestly believe, and I'm not trying to be hyperbole. 84 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 9: I know this is a radio show where we're trying 85 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 9: to get clicks and likes and attention. I honestly do 86 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 9: believe that is the worst loss in the James Franklin. 87 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 8: Earro I do. 88 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 9: I think there's two reasons for it. One obviously, expectations. 89 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 9: They're supposed to win the game. They're favored by more 90 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 9: than a field goal. You have all the intangibles, you 91 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 9: had the week off, you haven't played a soul, you 92 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 9: had an entire month to prepare for that game. But 93 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 9: in reality now we have to face the reality that 94 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 9: Jim Knowles was the highest paid coordinator in the sport. 95 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 9: The team had zero sacks. They hit Dante Moore three times. 96 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 9: I mean, that's a there's no opinion with that's that's 97 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 9: the fact of the game. That can't happen in a 98 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 9: big time college football game when your defense is supposed 99 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 9: to be the best unit on the field. 100 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 8: They weren't. 101 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 9: Oregon's offense, their offensive line, Dante Moore best unit on 102 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 9: the field in that particular instance. 103 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 8: Obviously Drew Hallard. 104 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 9: The numbers are just five and a half yards per 105 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 9: attempt looked uncomfortable all night. The offense gained thirty eight 106 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 9: percent of available yards, the average in a college football 107 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 9: games in the mid fifties. Usually usually you gain, maybe 108 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 9: on a bad night, right on an average night, fifty 109 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 9: percent of the available yards you're gaining. For context, that's 110 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 9: what Georgia gained against Alabama in their loss last week, 111 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 9: fifty percent of available yards. Penn State gained thirty eight percent. 112 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 9: Where is the assertiveness, the aggression. It didn't happen until 113 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 9: they're down two scores in the fourth quarter. Then they 114 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 9: started taking shots down the field. Oh guess what, then 115 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 9: the offense wakes up. That needs to be the mindset 116 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 9: from the jump, we are better offensively against your defense. 117 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 9: We are taking shots down the field. If it's not 118 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,559 Speaker 9: the mindset from the jump, that starts at the top 119 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 9: of right the tip of the spear the head coach 120 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 9: and filters down. The mindset is let's just run the 121 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 9: ball and hope we can get by in this game. 122 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 9: That was the that was the game plan. Now, maybe 123 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 9: they don't trust Drewaler enough to go out there and 124 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 9: execute the game plan, and then when desperation seeps in, 125 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 9: then they have to Maybe they just don't trust Drew 126 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 9: enough to go out there and sling it from the jump. 127 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 9: Maybe if that's the case, then you've got the wrong 128 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 9: kid at quarterback. 129 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 8: Maybe they didn't have a good game plan. I don't know. 130 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 9: I'm not in the room, but I do know when 131 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 9: all of a sudden, they're down two scores in the 132 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 9: fourth quarter and they're taking shots down the field when 133 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 9: everyone knows they're gonna be taking shots down the field, 134 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 9: and they're completing them and scoring points. I'm thinking to myself, 135 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 9: why wasn't this the start of the game. Why warrant 136 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 9: these games. Why weren't these shot plays in the opening 137 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 9: script of the game. I just I have no words 138 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 9: for it other than the worst loss in the James 139 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 9: Franklin era. Because they can't seem to figure out how 140 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 9: to win these games. And if they can't win this game, 141 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 9: you don't deserve to be in any big game for 142 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 9: the rest of the season. Now, maybe they make the 143 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 9: playoff off and they get back to the Final four, 144 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 9: but the same thing is going to happen when they 145 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 9: actually face a team worth their salt, like Oregon is. 146 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 9: And that's that's just the that's the truth of it 147 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 9: to me. 148 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 6: I do have a question. 149 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 5: You know, our good friend d DJ Khalid, right what 150 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 5: he said another one? Another one that was he talking 151 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 5: about like another hit song you know that's as pop 152 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 5: or was he talking about another Penn State disappointment? 153 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 6: I have legitimate questions about it. 154 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 4: That's not a legitimate question at all. It could be. 155 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 6: It really could be. 156 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 5: So you know, you hear him like matched up with 157 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 5: I don't know, like a hot artist like Rianna. They 158 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 5: come out with a new song and another one. He's 159 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 5: really talking about Penn State the whole time. 160 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 6: I mean, we need to investigate this. 161 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 5: It might be the case, but I do, like you said, 162 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 5: one key phrase and that whole spiel there, Jared was 163 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 5: sling it and uh, you know that's the deal with 164 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 5: with Drew Aller over here. It's a weird mixture where listen, 165 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 5: I'll be glass half full for a second. 166 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 6: The season isn't lost. 167 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 5: Maybe they can do their their Ohio State impression, right, 168 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 5: Ohio State had some other. 169 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 6: Well they will. They should make it. They should be 170 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 6: in there. 171 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 4: They should. 172 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 5: But like that's the thing, like Ohio State lost as 173 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 5: a three touchdown favorite at home to Michigan again, that 174 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 5: was as embarrassing as it gets. And this is really 175 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 5: embarrassing for Penn State to lose again another one. But 176 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 5: it's not all done. It's not all lost. The season 177 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 5: is still ongoing for them. But that's the thing, getting 178 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 5: back to the sling it thing. Man, When you are 179 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 5: so careful with Drew Aller to the point where Penn 180 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 5: State gained sixty nine yards in the entire first half, 181 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 5: that's obnoxious. And it reminded me of there's a great 182 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 5: SoundBite of Tom Brady. It's from NFL Networks America's game. 183 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 5: So this was the first Super Bowl. The Patriots won 184 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 5: Super Bowl thirty six. Remember it was tied seventeen to 185 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 5: seventeen against the Rams. Patriots are huge underdogs and all 186 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 5: of a sudden they have this aggressive last drive to 187 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 5: set up a game winning field goal by Adam Vinteri. 188 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 5: I totally agreed with John Madden during that game. He's like, whoa, 189 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 5: what were they doing over? They're throwing it in their 190 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 5: own territory is way too risky, And the next thing 191 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 5: you know, they're Super Bowl champs. But this is Tom 192 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 5: Brady talking about a conversation he had on the sidelines 193 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 5: before that final drive, and I think it applies to 194 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 5: Drew Aller. 195 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 6: Check this out. 196 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 10: It's seventeen seventeen. Well, my first thing is I go 197 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 10: up to Charlie and I say what are we doing? 198 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 10: And he says we're going. So I said, all right, 199 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 10: what's the first play? And Charlie says to me, is 200 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 10: I'm sure Bill's sending his here. He'd better take care 201 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 10: of that ball. So Charlie yells at me. 202 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 8: He says, hey, take care of that ball. 203 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 10: And Drew was kind of standing next to me and 204 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 10: he kind of just shuffling in front of that and 205 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 10: he says, Dad, go out there and slim right, and that's. 206 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 5: What he did and listen like you know, Drew Owler, 207 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 5: Tom Brady, But the concept remains the same. I think 208 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 5: Drew Aller can feel like don't mess up. He can 209 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 5: feel the coaching staff. He can just feel this like hesitancy, 210 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 5: this like freaked out nature of like don't make a mistake. 211 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 5: That's how he's playing. He was way too careful with him. 212 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 5: He's way too careful in the first half. And like 213 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 5: you guys said, when they opened it up, touchdown, touchdown, 214 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 5: boom boom, and then the sad thing in double overtime, 215 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 5: it's a hideous interception and the game is lost. So 216 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 5: I would rather air on the side of aggression. Yeah, 217 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 5: he's gonna make some mistakes, but being too careful, which 218 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 5: is what they are, that's a mistake too, And I 219 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 5: would rather that he just goes out there and slings it. 220 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 6: He's got real ability. 221 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 5: He's playing way too careful right now, and they're not 222 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 5: gonna go anywhere if that's the approach with him. 223 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 7: I complete completely agree. I completely agree. When you play scared, 224 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 7: you play inside your own head. When when you play 225 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 7: cautious you're you're overthinking. 226 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: When you play free and loose. 227 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, you'll make mistakes, but at least you're gonna make 228 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 7: them going a million miles an hour. I feel like 229 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 7: Drew Aller is bridled by the restrictions placed on him. 230 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 7: I feel like we haven't seen an unrestricted Drew Aller 231 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 7: play football. 232 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: At the collegiate level yet. 233 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 7: Uh And and unfortunately, when they do let him open 234 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 7: the can a little bit, and and he starts to 235 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 7: sling it, so to speak, it goes better for him 236 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 7: in moments, But then he's gonna make a bonehead player 237 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 7: or two. 238 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 4: But you have to have that blood letting at some point. 239 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 7: You have to let him make those mistakes so he 240 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 7: doesn't make him anymore. 241 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 4: And you have to let that happen. 242 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 7: In games that I don't want to say don't matter, 243 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 7: but in games where you can sharpen your claws a 244 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 7: little bit. When you have a you know, a score 245 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 7: or two lead against Purdue or against Maryland or against 246 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 7: I don't know, Temple or one of these cupcakes you 247 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 7: know that they warmed up with for four weeks before 248 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 7: they took on the Oregon Ducks, you know, let him 249 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 7: sling it so to speak against one of those teams. 250 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: This way, you get used to that Drew Aller. 251 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 7: He gets used to that Drew Aller because when when 252 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 7: you put look, I've always been a fan of the 253 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 7: of the of the thought process from a coaching standpoint, Hey, 254 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 7: I want to see your one hundred percent effort, and 255 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 7: if I need to pull back on the reins, that's 256 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 7: what I'll do. 257 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 4: That's coaches job. 258 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 7: But you go out there and you play to your personality, 259 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 7: and I'll let you know if we need to back 260 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 7: off that personality a little bit. Doesn't it feel like 261 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 7: Drew Aller is trying to be somebody else when he's 262 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 7: on the field. Doesn't it feel like it feels like 263 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 7: he's trying to do his best, you know, impression of 264 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 7: what he thinks the coaches think the Penn State quarterbacks 265 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 7: supposed to look like in this offense instead of playing 266 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 7: like Drew Aller. 267 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 4: I don't even know who that quarterback is. 268 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 7: I don't even know who Drew Aller is as a 269 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 7: quarterback yet, because it seems like he's doing a bad 270 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 7: impression of what Penn State expects a quarterbacks supposed to 271 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 7: look like in this offense. If they are going to 272 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 7: win a national championship. It's gonna because they have a 273 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 7: quarterback playing free, playing within his personality and playing like 274 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 7: he knows he's going to win. You heard the way 275 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 7: Drew Bledsoe talk to Tom Brady. He talked to him like, hey, Tom, 276 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 7: I trust you. I want you to trust yourself. Screw 277 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 7: what Bill Belichick said, Screw what Charlie Weiss repeated to 278 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 7: you from the headset. Go out there and play to 279 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 7: your personality and win this you know what football game. 280 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 7: And he went out there and he won that football game. 281 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 9: Here's the problem, though, he might not be good enough 282 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 9: like like that at this point. We just have to 283 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 9: believe what we see with our eyes, which is he 284 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 9: just might not be talented enough to overcome some of. 285 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 8: These demons at this stage, I mean may. 286 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 9: And again, he's a young kid, and I'm sure he's 287 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 9: gonna improve, and you hope that he does. But we 288 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 9: have to trust what we are seeing on the field, 289 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 9: and they are not allowing him to reach that full 290 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 9: potential based off of the play calling, based off of 291 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 9: the cuteness that they're approaching these big games. It's very 292 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 9: it's almost like we're just hoping that we can pop 293 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 9: a couple explosives in the run game and keep this 294 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 9: lead long enough. We are deal and that and to 295 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 9: me and listen, the dural criticism I think is fair. 296 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 9: But he didn't play well. You paid Jim knows a 297 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 9: lot of money and they didn't get one sack in 298 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 9: the game, and they hit Dante more three times like 299 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 9: and may and and maybe it goes back to what 300 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 9: I said at the top, where you credit Oregon for 301 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 9: playing a really clean football game. But man, oh man, 302 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 9: I need to see more. I need to see them 303 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 9: play with a lot more of that unbridled aggression and 304 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 9: you're just not seeing it right now. And maybe they 305 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 9: just don't trust them enough because they're with them every 306 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 9: day in practice. I'm sure there was a point in 307 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 9: practice where they're like, all right, we're gonna roulet. 308 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 8: A rip right now, and then Drew does whatever he. 309 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 9: Does and they're like, okay, maybe we can't do that. 310 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 9: Like that obviously isn't going to work. So we need 311 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 9: to go to this secondary game plan, which is run 312 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 9: ron ron cut se QUTESI you know, beat around the 313 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 9: bush and just hope we can kind of skirt our 314 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 9: way through these games. I mean they haven't looked good 315 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 9: in the first three games. Guys like you stack up 316 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 9: the numbers of what Penn State was in those first 317 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 9: three games against the Cupcakes, against the bad FIU and 318 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 9: Villanova didn't cover in any of them. The offense looked 319 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 9: very pedestrian, and that carried over to the Oregon game. 320 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 9: You thought maybe they were kind of playing possum, but no, 321 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 9: they weren't. 322 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 8: I think this is what they are at this point. 323 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 9: I think at some point you just have to try 324 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 9: lost what you are seeing on tape, which is Drew 325 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 9: Aller folds in these big moments and the defense is 326 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 9: gonna have to bail him out. And if they're not 327 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 9: running it effectively, they are not going to be able 328 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 9: to win football games at the highest level. So guess 329 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 9: what when you go to Ohio State and I think 330 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 9: three weeks, good luck with that defense? 331 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 8: Are you kidding me? How many points is Pence stake? 332 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 8: I'll take the under? 333 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 9: And how many points Bence State scores in that game 334 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 9: in Columbus. 335 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 5: Well, I think a confidence is a real thing, and 336 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 5: you can see when a player has it, and man, 337 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 5: you can see when a player doesn't. And right now, 338 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 5: Drew Aller has no confidence. And you could take other 339 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 5: players in college in the NFL, look at Baker Mayfield, 340 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 5: look at Baker Mayfield's career, and you could just tell 341 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 5: how confident he is right now compared to other stages 342 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 5: of his career, and it's helping his play tenfold, right. 343 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 5: And that's where I see with with Drew Aller. 344 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 6: He has real ability. 345 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 5: There's a reason why he's talked about as being maybe 346 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 5: the number one overall pick now is you know, no shots, 347 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 5: it's dwindling now, but he's still a first round caliber quarterback. Like, 348 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 5: I know, we're down in the dumps with him right 349 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 5: now and deservedly so. But imagine if the Rams got 350 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 5: their hands on Drue Aller. Are we all of a 351 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 5: sudden like man that's a failed draft pick, or are 352 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 5: we like, well, you know, Sean McVay, the guy's got 353 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 5: real ability. Let's not close the door on this guy 354 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 5: having a legitimate pro career, right Like, That's where I'm 355 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 5: at with him, where if he starts to have some success, 356 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 5: have some production, have some wins, have confidence, you could 357 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 5: see a completely different guy. 358 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 6: And that's what I saw last year with Ohio State. 359 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 6: We all did. 360 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 5: I'm just looking at these numbers. That embarrassing loss at 361 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 5: home to Michigan. It was thirteen to ten. They gained 362 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty two yards against Michigan. And then 363 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, it goes back to the Tom 364 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 5: Brady SoundBite. They went out there and they. 365 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 6: Were slinging it. 366 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 5: They're just like, all right, screw this, We're going for broke. 367 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 5: And they hung forty two on ten to see forty 368 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 5: one on Oregon. The number one team of the country 369 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 5: outscored Texas beat my Irish. They scored thirty four in 370 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 5: that game. It's just like points points, points point twenty. 371 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 5: It was points galore from that stage where they just 372 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 5: said screw this, the hell with everything, and they went 373 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 5: and they played like that. That's exactly what Penn State 374 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 5: needs to do. But man, they come out and it's 375 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 5: just deer in headlights in these big stage games like that. 376 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 5: But hey, we move forward, and I feel bad for 377 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 5: the Bruins today. 378 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 8: There that's the part about this. 379 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 9: You have to bury your opinion and I had to 380 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 9: do it this week, and you just you have to. 381 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 8: It's a great spot to bet Penn State, it really is. 382 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 9: And I know we're just We're absolutely, you know, crapping 383 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 9: all over them all morning, but it really. 384 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 8: Is a good spot to beat them. 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You know, like my rule of thumb. 438 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 5: If you can't name the nickname, chances are that program 439 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 5: is trash. 440 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 9: Right, But hey, that is the number one rule of 441 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 9: college football. 442 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 5: Peap pretty much, you're right, chances are. You know, they've 443 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 5: experienced some rough times over the years. But Vanderbilt, how 444 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 5: about this five and zero, number sixteen in the country, 445 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 5: and they're getting eleven and a half on the road 446 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 5: against Bama. Now, Bama was unbelievable. In the first half, 447 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 5: in particular against Georgia, they carved them up. Ty Simpson 448 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 5: looked fantastic. They didn't score any points in the second half. 449 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 5: Georgia got closed, but Bama gets the win. They snap 450 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 5: the thirty three game home winning streak for Georgia. Georgia 451 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 5: is now one in seven under Kirby Smart against Alabama, 452 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 5: It's unreal. That's a very emotional win for Alabama. Sometimes 453 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 5: we see these letdown spots. Hard to see a complete 454 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 5: letdown after Vanderbilt beat Alabama. Last year, Alabama was the 455 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 5: number one team in the country. Vandy stunned them. So 456 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 5: that's the one thing in this game. There's no sneaking 457 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 5: up for Vanderbilt. Like normally, if this is a typical 458 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 5: Vanderbilt team and they're like two in three or whatever, 459 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 5: and Alabama's coming off this emotional win, like yeah, look out, 460 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 5: you're getting double digits, maybe Vandy is the side, But 461 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 5: with last year in mind, it's a completely different ballgame here. 462 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, Vanderbilt preseason four and a half win total, they've 463 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 7: already bested that on the year. They're four and one 464 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 7: against the spread. So it just goes to show you 465 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 7: that people are counting them out or at least betting 466 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 7: against him. And you can't bet against Diego Pavia, Who's 467 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 7: more than just a good story in college football. He's 468 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 7: like a legitimate quarterback, he really is. 469 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 4: He's playing well. 470 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 7: They've got a duo in the offensive backfield who's playing 471 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 7: well with Alexander and Young. They have scored eighteen touchdowns 472 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 7: on the ground so far this season, you know, so 473 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 7: this is a feature of the offense. They got a 474 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 7: good tight end Stowers. Look, this is a real Vanderbilt team. 475 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 7: And I say all that to say, but this is Bama. 476 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 7: And this is Bama who just beat Georgia between the 477 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 7: hedges and all the pomp and circumstance with that matchup. 478 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 4: To your point, Brian, is it a spot for a letdown? 479 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 7: Yes, certainly after an emotional victory, and certainly after I 480 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 7: think there were a lot of people maybe within the program, 481 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 7: outside the program certainly, who are talking about Kiln the 482 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 7: and the direction of this program, and what if they 483 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 7: do lose to Georgia, and and and but but but 484 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 7: they end up winning that game, and it feels like 485 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 7: a completely different season now after opening the season with 486 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 7: a loss to Florida state where they were big favorites. 487 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 4: So that's kind of the tail of the tape between 488 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 4: these two teams. 489 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 7: The Commodores look good all over the paper, right, you know, 490 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 7: you can't really find too much negative to say about 491 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 7: the start to their season, But the level of opponent 492 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 7: they're about to play against today, it suggests to you 493 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 7: that this could be a lopsided outcome. 494 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 4: Mm. Yeah. 495 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 9: The Vandy's getting a lot of love in the market. 496 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 9: They're very popular underdog this week. That usually is your 497 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 9: first red flag that you probably shouldn't be betting on 498 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 9: a team. Call them right, the trendy dog. Those dogs 499 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 9: typically have flees. Based on my experience in this gambling space, 500 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 9: Bama's just a check mark across the board in all 501 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 9: the areas you want them to be checked in. 502 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 8: How about this stat, guys. 503 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 9: One of three teams in the country that hasn't turned 504 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 9: it over this year. I bet you can't name the 505 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 9: other two. I struggled with this one. 506 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 8: Go ahead and guess. 507 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 7: The other two besides Bama Bama that hasn't turned it 508 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 7: over this year. 509 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 9: You're never gonna give you a you know, Yan and Temple. 510 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 8: How about that. 511 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 9: Never never guess that, but that was a big talking 512 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 9: point in the offseason with Ryan Grubb, and that's why 513 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 9: they love Ty Simpson. He is incredibly efficient and protective 514 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 9: of the football. Last year in this game they lost 515 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 9: the turnover march in two to oh So again that's 516 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 9: kind of the key here and tough to predict turnovers. 517 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 9: But obviously Bama has done a really good job keeping 518 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 9: hold of the football this year. This ain't your older 519 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 9: brothers bandy offense people, It's not. They hunt explosives now. 520 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 9: In prior years they've been a little bit more quarterback 521 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 9: power four or five yards in a cloud of dust 522 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 9: type of offense. They still do that. That's their critic. 523 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 9: DNA third and short pave is going to be on 524 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 9: a QB power on a jet suite probably in some capacity. 525 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 9: But now what they've added to their game is the 526 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 9: explosive ability, which makes this a very different offense to 527 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 9: prepare for. I think their biggest concern for Bama right 528 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 9: now is the defense. Honestly, Georgia left a lot of 529 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 9: meat on the bone I told you about. They only 530 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 9: gained about fifty percent of available yards. That's below average. 531 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 9: Georgia could have scored a lot more points in that 532 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 9: game last week. You had the fourth down stop, you 533 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 9: had a couple explosives that they missed. And oh, by 534 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 9: the way, James Smith nose tackle for Bama out in 535 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 9: this game ejected for targeting in the second half, so 536 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 9: we will miss the first half. 537 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 8: Of this game. 538 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 9: In addition, Kway Russo, we talked about him on last 539 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 9: week's show, one of the best pass rushers I think 540 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 9: in the country. Definitely on this Bama team. Injured his foot, 541 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 9: need surgery out indefinitely. It feels like Bama's defense is 542 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 9: kind of this weird sphere that keeps spinning and you 543 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 9: just don't know what axis it's on. They have a 544 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 9: very complicated zone scheme. Here's the problem I see when 545 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 9: you play a zone coverage scheme against Vandy, they spam 546 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 9: the RPO game and they will eventually get you out 547 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 9: of that zone scheme. And when they do and get 548 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 9: you in the man to man, that's when the explosives 549 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 9: come in. So it's weird we're talking about this game 550 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 9: like Vandy's on the front foot. I think Bama is 551 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 9: the better team. I think the offense is significantly better 552 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 9: than Bandy's defense. I think Ty Simpson's got a big 553 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 9: chance to win the Heisman Trophy this year. I love 554 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 9: the receivers for Bama. Hort and Bernard and Williams are elite. 555 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 9: I think Bama's gonna put up their points. But I 556 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 9: think Vandy's gonna be in this game. I would imagine, 557 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 9: I would imagine Bama covers because everyone's betting Vandy and 558 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 9: that's usually how it goes. But I would not be 559 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 9: shocked if the Commodores are sniffing this one late. 560 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 5: One thing that goes against Vandy that I don't like 561 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 5: in this particular matchup. They've given up the most passing 562 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 5: touchdowns in the SEC. They've given up nine passing touchdowns already. 563 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 5: And Rich, you're talking about the competition, right, It's not 564 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 5: the stiffest of competition over there in the land, right. 565 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 5: It is a huge step up to face Ty Simpson 566 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 5: in the Crimson Tide. Yeah, because Charleston Southern VA Tech 567 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 5: South Carolina without Leonoris Sellers for most of that game 568 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 5: and Georgia State. 569 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 6: That's not Ty Simpson and Bama, that's for sure. 570 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 5: But the one thing though, on the other side, and 571 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 5: that's why this is an intriguing matchup, is Kaylin de 572 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 5: Boor as a double digit favorite. Yikes. It's not quite 573 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 5: James Franklin against top ten teams, but it's approaching it. 574 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 5: As a double digit favorite. They have laid numerous eggs 575 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 5: and lost outright, including one game last year to Vanderbilt. 576 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 5: And so you have to see when we were talking 577 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 5: about Bama, like, is Bama back? Like, think about what 578 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 5: the standard for Bama is. And they've looked good the 579 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 5: last couple of weeks. Ever since the Florida State debacle, 580 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 5: Bama has been good, and especially in that first half 581 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 5: against Georgia last week. But beat like back back, that 582 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 5: is such a high bar, and I think there's a 583 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 5: lot of room for Kaylin de Boor to improve, for 584 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 5: them to get close to that level where they once were. 585 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, classic letdown spot tier point Brian, And we've seen 586 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 7: this before, and we've seen this before after a big 587 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 7: emotional win against Georgia, because that's exactly the spot they 588 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 7: face Vandy last year right after a big win against Georgia, 589 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 7: they had the letdown against Vanderbilt. 590 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 4: So this sets up similarly. 591 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 7: However, when you do have that to look back on 592 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 7: in such recent history, you would assume a good coach 593 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 7: like Kaylen Debor is gonna be talking to his team, 594 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 7: turning on that film and saying, hey, this is I mean, 595 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 7: we just cannot let history repeat itself. 596 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 4: Right. 597 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 7: Here's the problem with BEMA when you say are they 598 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 7: all the way back? Defensively, definitely not? And run game wise, yeah, 599 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 7: definitely not. Their top rusher Kevin Riley has one hundred 600 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 7: fIF the yards. Jam Miller's been banged up. This run 601 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 7: game is not what Bama not what Crimson Tide fans 602 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 7: are used to seeing. What are you used to seeing 603 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 7: out of Alabama? Strong run game, great defense, a star 604 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 7: studded defense at all three levels, and a quarterback who's 605 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 7: good enough to manage the offense. This is a complete reversal. 606 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 7: This is a defense that's good enough to keep you 607 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 7: in games. They will allow points in scoring, There's no 608 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 7: question about it. So you're gonna have to score points 609 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 7: and an offense that relies on quarterback play and talented receivers. 610 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 7: You have two really good standout receivers, but you have 611 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 7: two running backs who have been trying their hardest to 612 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 7: get this run game going and to no avail. So 613 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 7: very different complexion, as the DNA is shifting from the 614 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 7: Saban years to the Kaitlin de Boor years in Alabama. 615 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 8: Very well said. 616 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 9: Literally exactly my notes here go Alabama this year outside 617 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 9: the top one hundred third down defense points, pro opportunity allowed, 618 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 9: and explosiveness. 619 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 8: Kane Wamack wants the quarterback to not trust his eyes. 620 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 9: This creates impact plays, but they also are very creacible 621 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 9: in the run game. Georgia had five explosive runs in 622 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 9: the game last Saturday. Diego pave Again we mentioned he's 623 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 9: an RPO merchant that will force Alabama to shift their scheme. 624 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 9: He's very experienced, will not be rattled on the road. 625 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 8: This will be his forty sixth. 626 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 9: College start today nineteenth at Vandy. Again, this is a 627 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,239 Speaker 9: very different Vandy offense than we're used to. And then 628 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 9: on the flip side of that, Rich, I. 629 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 8: Love this ty Simpson kid. 630 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 9: Big step forward last week, winning a big game on 631 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 9: the road in the sec right, Mike the first line 632 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 9: of my notes on him this week. That's one of 633 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 9: those starts that earns you a helmet sticker. I mean 634 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 9: it was shredding the ball into tight windows. Sunday throws 635 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 9: on money downs, go look at the third down numbers 636 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 9: for Alabama last week they were off the charts, their 637 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 9: top fifteen in available yards, gaining sixty three percent of 638 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 9: available yards. 639 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 8: That is an elite, elite rate. 640 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,959 Speaker 9: The thing I'm most impressed with Simpson right now his 641 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 9: ability to identify what he's seeing at the line of 642 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 9: scrimmage and decisively exploiting the weakness of the defense. If 643 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 9: he can do it on the road at Georgia, he 644 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 9: can do it against anybody, period, end of story. The 645 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 9: ball was jumping out of his hands last week, two 646 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 9: point seven time to throw rate with a nine point 647 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 9: zero a dot. What does that mean? Quick out of 648 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 9: his hand, but significantly strong average depth of target. 649 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 8: Not just check down, Charlie. 650 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 9: Usually when we see a two and a half two 651 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 9: point six second time per throw rate, the average depth 652 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 9: of target's like six yards because it's just one, two, 653 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 9: three boom balls out, but it's quick. He was one 654 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 9: to three boom balls out, boom into a tight window 655 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 9: ten yards down the field like it was really impressive. 656 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 9: And again the receivers for Bama, this is a very 657 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 9: explosive group. 658 00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 8: They have three. 659 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 9: Guys that can all do different things. Jeremy Bernard's a 660 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 9: stud six foot two transfer. Right, they brought him over 661 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 9: from Washington. He was one of the guys that the 662 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 9: board brought. They line him up all over the field. 663 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 9: He'll line up in the backfield today and he'll run 664 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 9: a route on the outside. 665 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 8: They've got the alpha, Isaiah. 666 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 9: Horton six foot four x receiver and Ryan Williams, why 667 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 9: I think, is the best slot guy in the country. 668 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 9: So there's no weakness on this Bama offense. You want 669 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 9: to say, maybe they're a little gett a bullet tackle 670 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 9: I can I can run with that, But I think 671 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 9: the running game is going to improve too. And this 672 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 9: is a this is a runnable defense, right, Vandy's got 673 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 9: good numbers against the run, but it's against Charleston Southern, 674 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 9: VOTEC South Carolina without Lenora Sellers for most of the game, 675 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 9: Georgia State, and Utah State. They've also had a big 676 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 9: lead in every game, so nobody's running it on them. 677 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 9: I'm curious to see how they handle a quarterback receiver 678 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 9: trio with a guy like Jan Miller, who you would 679 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 9: hope is a weak healthier. 680 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 8: So this is a this is a test for Vandy today. 681 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 9: A lot of people think Vandy is up to this 682 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 9: challenge based on what the betting market's telling me. 683 00:34:59,120 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 8: I am not social. 684 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the funny thing. I'll bring it back to Bama. 685 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 5: But just in terms of quarterbacks, real fast, like playing 686 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 5: with confidence. What we were talking about with Drew Aller before. 687 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 5: Look at Ty Simpson. Look at Ty Simpson last week 688 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 5: against Georgia compared to the first game against Florida State, 689 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 5: night and day. Not even close to the same guy. 690 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 5: But he's playing confidently and that makes all the difference 691 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 5: in the world. You could go back just a couple 692 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 5: of nights ago. Think about Mac Jones now with the 693 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 5: forty nine ers, is the backup quarterback. 694 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 6: You see him getting into his bag. 695 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 4: You see him do the. 696 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,479 Speaker 5: Little shoulder struggle thing like that's like, where's the Mac. 697 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 5: We haven't seen this with the Jags or the Patriots. 698 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 5: All of a sudden, he's a confident player and he 699 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 5: looks completely different. So if you're a Penn State fan, 700 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 5: you got to see that from Drew Aller because he 701 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 5: has real ability. But you bring it back, bring it 702 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 5: back to Listen, we're talking about confident quarterbacks. 703 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 6: Make sure bring it back to Alabama. 704 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 5: Return Hey, at least the path for an upset or 705 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 5: at least the cover is a shaky iffy Bama defense, 706 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 5: right and that's what they are right now. They are 707 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 5: not what they used to be. They can be had, 708 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 5: and they have been had during this season. Diego Pavia, 709 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 5: if he starts to make plays and he's completely capable 710 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 5: of doing that, that electrifies the whole team. All of 711 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 5: a sudden, Vanderbilt is playing with confidence. So if you're Vandy, 712 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 5: you gotta see Diego Pavia make a good amount of plays. 713 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 5: So all of a sudden that that confidence just infiltrates 714 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,720 Speaker 5: the whole squad. 715 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 4: You know. 716 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 5: It's almost like a basketball team, like the the Fi 717 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 5: Slama Jama days where they have a dunk and all 718 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 5: of a sudden, the team is juiced. When Pavia is 719 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 5: making plays, it really gives them so much juice. So 720 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 5: we'll see he's gonna make some but can he make 721 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 5: enough to keep him close and for that belief to 722 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 5: really grow, because listen, Vandy's gonna give up some yards 723 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 5: and some points in the passing game. They've already given 724 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 5: up nine touchdowns already. Ty Simpson's gonna do his thing, 725 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 5: you know, because he's playing confident football right now. I 726 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 5: just don't see him reverting to the game one. You know, 727 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 5: Florida State, Ty Simpson that it's like a Benzel that 728 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 5: day is dead dog. We don't roll like that no more. 729 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 5: That's not how Ty Simpson rolls anymore. Now, right, that's 730 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 5: where we're at. All Right, We've got Rich Ornberger, Penn State, 731 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 5: All American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian no 732 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 5: Coming up next the parlay platter, which have one selection 733 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 5: for you. We pull it together for a greater payout. 734 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 5: We'll compare notes next. It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown 735 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 5: to Kickoff presented by BETMGM. It is Fox Sports Radios 736 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 5: Countdown to Kickoff presented by bet MGM. 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That's code countdown in the BETMGM app. All right, 746 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 5: let's do this. 747 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 3: Check this out, ar lad letter. 748 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 5: Yes, the platter, we each have one selection for you. 749 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 5: We pull it together for a greater payout. Jared, we 750 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 5: start with you. What's something you like? 751 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 9: So I am in love infatuation with the over in 752 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 9: this Bandy Bama game today. I'll just tell you right now, 753 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 9: I'm gonna give it to you and rapid fire at 754 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 9: the current total of fifty six and a half. But 755 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,240 Speaker 9: we're gonna take it one step further in the platter 756 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 9: because we want to get these ads nice and gc. 757 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 8: So what are we gonna do. We're gonna sell two points. 758 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 8: What do I mean by that? 759 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 9: You go to your bet MGM tab and you go 760 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 9: to the total section of this Bandy Bama game and 761 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 9: you could basically remove some value, right, we could increase 762 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 9: the total, so it's fifty six and a half, but 763 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 9: we're gonna give you over fifty eight and a half 764 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 9: to get this number to plus one oh five. 765 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 8: We talked about it in the last segment. It is 766 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 8: a very impressive Vandy offense this year. 767 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 9: They are typically a run, run, run, run, run team 768 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 9: this year, they are hunting explosives. 769 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 8: And their quarterback I'm gonna call him the Rudy of 770 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 8: the SEC. 771 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 9: He's five foot nothing, one hundred and nothing, diego Pavia. 772 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 9: But this kid plays the quarterback position without an ounce 773 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 9: of fear. And that is why I think Vandy, who's 774 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 9: gonna be going for broke today? They Hey, they think 775 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 9: they can win the SEC. They're five and oh they 776 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 9: win this game. They're right in the mix. And I 777 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 9: obviously think Alabama's offense with Ty Simpson, who's Heisman. 778 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 8: Candidate, is going to be slinging at all day long. 779 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 8: So give me the over with a twist. 780 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,479 Speaker 9: We're selling two points over fifty eight and a half 781 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 9: Vandy and Fama today at plus one oh five to 782 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 9: start the Parland All. 783 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 4: Right, juicing up though over there. 784 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 7: I love it, Jared, Okay, I'm going with Penn State 785 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 7: minus twenty four and a half on the Rose at 786 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 7: the Rose Bowl against their Big ten competitor UCLA. The Bruins, look, 787 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 7: they've been awful this season. 788 00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 4: Penn State. 789 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 7: It's an emotional pressure release valve, let's call it. And 790 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 7: that's exactly the way this game sets up Yeah, this 791 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 7: is a huge number to cover. James Franklin likes to 792 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 7: cover huge numbers for his donors and his boosters. He 793 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 7: pays attention to the betting lines. 794 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,919 Speaker 4: You can see it. You see it in the fourth quarter, 795 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 4: you see it. 796 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 7: Late in games where they're close, and he makes sure 797 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 7: bets are hitting. 798 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 4: So I like this ticket. I think it was. 799 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,479 Speaker 7: An unfortunate outcome against the Ducks. I think they make 800 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 7: up for it in spades today against the Bruins. Give 801 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 7: me Penn State and Drew all are having a big game, 802 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,919 Speaker 7: by the way, that may pop up later in the show. 803 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 7: But Penn State covering twenty four and a half on. 804 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 5: The road, all right, I'm going with this Texas Florida game. 805 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 6: Give me under forty two and a half. 806 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 5: I mean, Rich, we got lag Weight earlier this year 807 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 5: in the LSU game, five interceptions, including a pick six 808 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 5: at a TWA ball game. This is a real Texas defense. 809 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 5: They've got NFL dudes on this defense. And I'm not 810 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 5: expecting Dj Lagway, who's struggling with his confidence, to all 811 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 5: of a sudden flourish in this game. And arch Manning Listen, 812 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 5: I know it's doom and gloom with arch I'd say 813 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 5: give it a little bit of time. But this is 814 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 5: a real Florida defense as well. I think forty two 815 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 5: and a half it's a little bit too much. How 816 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 5: many points is Florida scoring? Ten thirteen? We're not coming 817 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 5: close to this total? 818 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 8: Going over? 819 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 4: If that's the case, I. 820 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 8: Love this parlay plus six forty seven. It's hitting today, guys, 821 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 8: bet it we. 822 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 3: Go like it all right? 823 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 5: Coming up next, this team is a live dog thanks 824 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,720 Speaker 5: to its defense, but man, the offense is rough. Oh, 825 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 5: good morning, happy Saturday to you. We are two hours 826 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 5: away from kickoff here on a lovely college football weekend. 827 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 6: Beautiful thing. All right, Come up next? 828 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 4: Is it? 829 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 5: Is it a live dog or a dog with fleas 830 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 5: that comes your way in just a few seconds. Throughout 831 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 5: the entire football season, bet MGM will offer all different 832 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 5: types of no sweat tokens and odds boost tokens. Be 833 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 5: on the lookout for no sweat same game parlay tokens, 834 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 5: parlay boost tokens, and so much more. All right, we've 835 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 5: got number nine Texas at unranked Florida. 836 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 6: Man Florida. 837 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 5: They start off looking good, you know, preseason ranked and 838 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 5: all that. They are no longer ranked. They've been bad. 839 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 8: How bad? 840 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 5: They have scored thirty three points in three games against 841 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 5: FBS opponents. Thirty three points in three separate games. Like 842 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,959 Speaker 5: that's you see a lot of these FBS teams. They'll 843 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 5: score thirty three in one game against the good FBS opponent. 844 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 5: They've done that over three games. So this Florida offense 845 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 5: is a wreck. And going up against Texas's defense, You've 846 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 5: got dudes all over the place, You've got legitimate NFL talent. 847 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 6: I just don't know how much Florida is scoring in 848 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 6: this game. 849 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 5: I know there are a lot of people that are like, oh, 850 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,919 Speaker 5: home dog. You know, if you can get it plus seven, 851 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 5: get it plus seven. Well, the sevens are long gone. 852 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 5: And I just don't know how much Florida is scoring 853 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 5: in this spot. I know we're down on arch Manning, 854 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 5: but listen, man compared to DJ Lagway right now, Arch 855 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 5: Manning is the second coming of Jesus Christ. That's how 856 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 5: bad DJ Lagway? 857 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 7: Goodness gracious, yeah, I mean, look, after six turnovers he 858 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 7: was responsible for against LSU, you like the fact that 859 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 7: against the Canes he didn't post a single pass that 860 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 7: was turnover worthy. However, you can tell that they've gotten 861 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 7: a little trigger shy of Florida. In the passing game, 862 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,720 Speaker 7: the Gators posted get this, a twenty one percent success 863 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 7: rate in passing downs and only two point seven yards 864 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 7: per play against Miami's defense. 865 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 4: They have completely lost faith in the passing game, and 866 00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 4: understandably so. 867 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 7: You you gotta circle the wagons when you have a 868 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 7: season that is flailing the way it is, and. 869 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 4: You gotta look at the head coach. 870 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 7: Billy Napier sits atop the hottest seat in college football 871 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 7: right now. If they lose this football game, which I mean, 872 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 7: if you're looking at the spot, you probably feel like 873 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 7: they will, and then you question yourself. Okay, let me 874 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 7: take a look at it again. You know, desperation is 875 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 7: a hell of an incentivisor at times you know, is 876 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 7: this a spot where because you know the curtains about 877 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,720 Speaker 7: to fall, something crazy happens. You know I would stay 878 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 7: off this game personally. This is a tough one for me. 879 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 7: I mean, maybe like you did, Brian in our parlay there, 880 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 7: the unders are very alive. I don't love how Texas 881 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,720 Speaker 7: has played against real competition. I think they've they've seemed 882 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 7: sluggish against Sam Houston. I mean that was a woodshed 883 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 7: game for arch Manning in this offense. He finally looked 884 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 7: like he played with the composure and the confidence that 885 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,240 Speaker 7: he was supposed to play with in the opener against 886 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 7: Ohio State and has yet to really come fully to 887 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 7: fruition so far this season. So maybe there's some more 888 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 7: confidence there in the offense coming into this one. But 889 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 7: I really do feel like if you're gonna bet this game, 890 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 7: the totals and probably the unders, maybe even first quarter 891 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 7: or first half unders too, not just the whole game spread. 892 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 9: Yeah, here's what I watch, or here's what I see 893 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 9: when I watch arch Manning. I see a quarterback that's 894 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 9: still very jittery with his feet. And again I'm not 895 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 9: this quarterback expert, but from all of my understanding of 896 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 9: what I've been taught and what I've teaching kids, it 897 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 9: starts from the feet up. Like you are a quarterback, 898 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 9: your arm is not the most important part of your 899 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 9: quarterbacking skills. It is the feet and the mind. In 900 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 9: my opinion, those are the two things that really dictate 901 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 9: how well you play the position. He's overstriding, his misses 902 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 9: are low and away. He's struggling controlling the nose of 903 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 9: the football. It's pointed down when he's missing, and that 904 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 9: tells me it's mechanics. And that's surprising, right because when 905 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 9: we think of a Manning, the kid was basically born 906 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 9: with a football in his hand, So mechanics was not 907 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 9: something I would expect to be off. When I'm watching 908 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,720 Speaker 9: Arch Manning play football, that tells me that there's something 909 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 9: off mentally, he's not fully trusting his mechanics. 910 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 8: That he's been taught years and years and years of this. 911 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 9: Now, he did have moments when he's been mechanically clean, 912 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 9: Like if you go back and watch the Sam Houston 913 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 9: game from a couple weeks ago, he. 914 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 8: Got hit early in the game. 915 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 9: He took a big shot in the pocket, and from 916 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 9: that point on he looked much cleaner. 917 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 8: It was almost like it woke him up a little bit. 918 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 9: He looked a lot more comfortable in that game on 919 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 9: boots play action rollouts when you're kind of outside the pocket. 920 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 9: That's a good way to mitigate some of those mechanical 921 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 9: flaws when you get a quarterback like him that's on 922 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 9: the move. But again, after he took that hit, he 923 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 9: looked much better, and then he had the rushing touchdown 924 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 9: right when he or a farm The kid that that one, 925 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 9: that play was all over social media. To me, if 926 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 9: I was coaching at Sarks, a much better coach than me, 927 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,839 Speaker 9: significantly better offensive mind. I'm not trying to tell him 928 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,879 Speaker 9: how to do his job, but I would get Arch 929 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,399 Speaker 9: involved in the run game very early here. 930 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 8: To me, that. 931 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 9: Usually settles down a quarterback that's a little bit jittery, 932 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 9: take a hit, get a little bit dirty, dust yourself off, 933 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 9: and then go play football. I mean, we have to, 934 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 9: you know. Also, remember he hasn't even played a full 935 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 9: he hasn't been a starter in a full season of 936 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 9: college football. Yet he's still a very young, inexperienced quarterback 937 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 9: at the collegiate level. I think his spatial awareness will improve. 938 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 9: Sarks offense gives you a lot of free access throws. 939 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 9: That's kind of the way he runs things that gets 940 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,280 Speaker 9: you comfortable in the game early. Just hit your layups. 941 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 9: If you hit your layups, you're gonna have success in 942 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 9: this offense. He's a big kid, six four two twenty. 943 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 9: Use your legs, use your athleticism. Change the manipulation like 944 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 9: manipulate the launch point. Don't just stand in the pocket 945 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,320 Speaker 9: and make throws. And I think he's going to continue 946 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 9: to have some success. 947 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, I buy what you're selling as far as 948 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 5: the mechanics go. 949 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 6: And it does make me think of. 950 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 5: Josh Allen, the Bills quarterback, and they were doing was 951 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 5: it they were on Hard Knocks? 952 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 6: Is that the show of the offseason they were on. 953 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 6: I think they were on Hard Knocks. 954 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 5: But one of the episodes they showed him with Chris 955 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 5: hess Who's this you know quarterback mechanic guy, right, He's 956 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 5: all he's got this state of the art technology. It's 957 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 5: you know, measuring this and measuring that. You're overstriding and 958 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 5: you're not clearing your hips and all that type of stuff. 959 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 5: Josh Allen's throwing motion is galaxy. Is better than it 960 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 5: was his first two years. And he was an inaccurate 961 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 5: passer his first two years in the NFL. But all 962 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 5: of a sudden, his mechanics are sound like it's all 963 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,120 Speaker 5: about his hips. Like you remember how Dak Remember how 964 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 5: you do that weird warm up thing where he's moving 965 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 5: his hips all around right like that. That's a big 966 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 5: part of the throwing motion is clearing your hips. And 967 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 5: no longer is Josh Allen just throwing with his entire arm. 968 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 5: He was an arm thrower. Now he's like a body thrower. 969 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 5: He's doing it with his hips. And if arch Manning 970 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 5: can get there, look out like we all want our 971 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 5: quarterbacks to be microwaveable. 972 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 6: You know what I mean. 973 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 5: It's gonna take a little bit of time. All Right, 974 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,720 Speaker 5: this is a steak. You gotta let it like simmer 975 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 5: for a while, you know, you gotta let like everything marinate. 976 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 5: It's gonna take time. It's a process. But these people 977 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,439 Speaker 5: that want instant results, like man, what were the three 978 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 5: hundred passing yards against Ohio State? 979 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 4: Arch Manning? 980 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 5: And it's like, bro, like, take take a breath and 981 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 5: settle down for a bit. I think he's going to 982 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 5: get there. But what you're explaining, Jared, if he does 983 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 5: get there like Josh Allen did mechanically, whoa. I think 984 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,280 Speaker 5: that this guy can be unbelievable. 985 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:57,879 Speaker 4: I really do. 986 00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 3: Well. 987 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 6: As far as Texas defense, Rich, listen to this again. 988 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 6: We got lagway earlier. 989 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:04,879 Speaker 4: Rich. 990 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 5: Right, you're going up against the Texas defense that's allowing 991 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 5: seven point eight points per game, that's second best nationally, 992 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,320 Speaker 5: and Texas they give up two hundred and twelve yards 993 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 5: per game. That's fourth best. That's what Florida's sputtering anemic 994 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 5: offenses up against tonight. 995 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, you said it all right there. Defensive coordinator 996 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 7: Pete Kwakowski in this three three five scheme has really 997 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 7: done a nice job, especially against the run, stopping explosives. 998 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 7: And so when when you can't really get things going 999 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 7: in the run game, it forces the offenses that you 1000 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 7: oppose to run more plays. And what does that expose 1001 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 7: an offense too well, especially if you're trailing, it exposes 1002 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,800 Speaker 7: you to having to put the ball in the air, 1003 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 7: and that gives you more opportunities to turn it over. 1004 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 7: And and this de defense has done a nice job 1005 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 7: in that category as well. It's been the biggest positive 1006 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 7: really of the Longhorn season so far. And in terms 1007 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 7: of just looking at success rate, which is you know, 1008 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 7: obviously a quotient that includes a couple of other different factors, 1009 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 7: they're fifteenth in the country. 1010 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,240 Speaker 4: I mean, this is a Texas defense. 1011 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 7: Everybody was talking about arch Manning and the offense, and 1012 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 7: for obvious reasons. You know, so many of the prop 1013 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 7: bets come in on the offensive side of the ball. 1014 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 7: In college football, we know where you know, a fans 1015 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 7: Brett is buttered, so to speak. And so we talked 1016 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 7: a lot of Arch Manning leading up to this season, 1017 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 7: but the reality is defense still wins championships. You know, 1018 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 7: the uglies up front, the defensive coordinators with you know, 1019 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 7: the mad scientists behind the scenes. Those are the guys 1020 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 7: who rarely get as much credit as they deserve for 1021 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 7: a successful season. And if Texas has a successful season, 1022 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 7: which they still can have a March Manning goes through 1023 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 7: this maturation process and we see the cake being baked 1024 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,760 Speaker 7: instead of being microwaved like everybody wants. 1025 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 4: The instant results. Yeah, I think it's going to. 1026 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 7: Be predicated around a strong defense bolstering the early part 1027 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:17,439 Speaker 7: of this season. 1028 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 4: And then watch out if this offense starts clicking. 1029 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 7: If we see more of what Manning did against Sam Houston, 1030 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 7: against better FBS talent, this. 1031 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 4: Could be a special season for the Longhorns. 1032 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,839 Speaker 7: But right now, DJ Lagway and this Florida team, they've 1033 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 7: gotten uphill climb against a defense that's been stingy with 1034 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 7: yardage on the ground, and that's a problem because Florida's 1035 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,919 Speaker 7: been terrible throwing the ball. 1036 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,839 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll be honest, I would not be shocked if 1037 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 9: Florida won this game. 1038 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 8: I wouldn't not at all. 1039 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 9: It feels like that this is the game, especially based 1040 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 9: on the market. I mean, it's under a touchdown right now, 1041 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 9: and we've seen it move towards Florida just based off 1042 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 9: of the way this crazy college football season is gone. 1043 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 9: It would not shock me in the slightest if everyone 1044 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,760 Speaker 9: riding off Billy n Apier, everyone. 1045 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 8: Thinking this is the end. They're playing the. 1046 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 9: Violin right, the Titanic is sinking, and then they beat 1047 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 9: Texas in Arch. 1048 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 8: Many wouldn't shock me at all. Here's how they can 1049 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:24,959 Speaker 8: win the game. 1050 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 9: Run the ball. Jane Bows averaging six yards per carry. 1051 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 9: He had ten carries against LSU, he had twelve against Miami. 1052 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 9: Make that make sense. Your quarterback is lagwaying everyone left 1053 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 9: and right. Your running game is actually pretty prolific, and 1054 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 9: you're only giving your guy averaging six yards to carry 1055 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 9: twenty two combined totes in your two biggest games Miami 1056 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 9: and LSU. 1057 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 8: Doesn't make sense. 1058 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 9: Florida's won for nineteen on third downs of nine plus 1059 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 9: this year. I mean, that's bad, but it also tells 1060 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 9: me that they're not getting into a lot of third 1061 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 9: and manageables. They have nineteen third downs this year that 1062 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,959 Speaker 9: are of nine yards or more. They've only been able 1063 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 9: to convert one of them. Texas, though, also struggles on 1064 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 9: third downs. They struggle in getting off the field. There 1065 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,240 Speaker 9: are one hundred and twenty sixth then penalties. The swamp 1066 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 9: does not make you more disciplined. The Gators are playing 1067 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 9: inspired football right now in defense. I don't know why, 1068 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 9: because again, their coaches kind of a zombie, but it 1069 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 9: does seem like both teams off the by maybe lagway 1070 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 9: gets a little healthy. Like I'm not saying I'm not 1071 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 9: gonna go out on a limb and say Florida is 1072 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 9: gonna win this game, because I don't want to. 1073 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 8: I don't want to smoke from all the Texas fans. 1074 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:49,760 Speaker 9: But I do believe there is a path here. Low 1075 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:54,840 Speaker 9: total game, short spread, run the ball, rattle arch on 1076 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 9: the road a little bit. That's the recipe I think 1077 00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 9: for an upset. 1078 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 6: Hey man, I hear you. 1079 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 5: There's certainly a path toward that happening, but there's a 1080 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 5: path for the opposite of happening, right Yeah. That's what 1081 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 5: I love about That's what I love about sports betting 1082 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 5: is right now to this point, like arch Manning has 1083 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 5: had a lot of struggles. The case that you know, uh, 1084 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 5: you know, the lawyer Jared Smith over there just made 1085 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 5: can be the you know, the outcome today can absolutely 1086 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 5: be the outcome. 1087 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 6: But if it is not, you're sitting there. 1088 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:40,440 Speaker 5: Going why the hell did I back Lagway and Napier 1089 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,760 Speaker 5: when they're one in three against a really talented Texas squad, 1090 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like it could go that 1091 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 5: way too, So I love that dynamic as well. Like 1092 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,839 Speaker 5: I think this is uh, this is a good This 1093 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 5: is a good recipe for you know, a head slap 1094 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 5: where you're just like slapping your forehead, Like what was 1095 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 5: I even thinking before this game kicked off? You know, 1096 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,439 Speaker 5: it has that potential either way, no matter what bet 1097 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,760 Speaker 5: you're on, for it to go really bad. 1098 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 7: That's why I think in games like this, I agree 1099 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,760 Speaker 7: with everything you just said, Jared, all the reasons why 1100 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 7: Texas could get tripped up here and desperation. As I 1101 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:24,720 Speaker 7: mentioned earlier, it is a really tricky ingredient to add 1102 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 7: to the whole recipe. When when you have a coach 1103 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 7: who is literally coaching for his job, that can change 1104 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 7: the paradigm and it can really open up the playbook, 1105 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 7: and you could see things where maybe in a season's plan, 1106 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,799 Speaker 7: you're not gonna tip your hand too far. You're gonna 1107 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,359 Speaker 7: set things up for later in the year. You're gonna 1108 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 7: use certain packages and gotta have it moments when you 1109 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 7: get deep into your conference schedule, when when you're coaching 1110 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 7: for your life, you empty out every single bullet you 1111 00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:00,919 Speaker 7: got chambered sometimes and you go down swinging, so to speak. Proverbially, 1112 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 7: I think that's a tricky ingredient to add to the recipe. 1113 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 7: So when I look at this game, I look at 1114 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 7: the total, and I try to think about thematically how 1115 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 7: I see this game going. And I could see this 1116 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 7: being a grueling win or potentially a grueling loss for 1117 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 7: Texas on the road, But I do not see it 1118 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 7: being a high scoring affair. So when I have a 1119 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,919 Speaker 7: hard time feeling the spread right, really, like you said, 1120 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 7: it's kind of an artificially low number, especially considering how 1121 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 7: poor Florida has played this season so far, and you're 1122 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 7: curious as to why that number is the number. Ignore 1123 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 7: that number, look at the other one, look at the 1124 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 7: bigger number, look at the total, and say to yourself. 1125 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 4: Do I really see these two teams. 1126 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 7: Mustering enough offense to surpass that total, and my stomach, 1127 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 7: my gut is telling me no way. And especially in 1128 00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 7: the opening rounds of this fight, I could see these 1129 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 7: two fighters circling each other for a little bit. I 1130 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 7: could see everybody trying to find their moments of opportunity, 1131 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 7: and so I like Brian's under for the game. But 1132 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 7: I even like the first half under. I think it's 1133 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 7: twenty one and a half right now. That might come 1134 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,160 Speaker 7: up later. That might be one of my rapid fires. 1135 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 7: I'm still mulling it. That's an interesting game though, Man 1136 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 7: Texas that they could use an arch man in coming 1137 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:31,480 Speaker 7: out party Lagway and this Florida offense, and especially Billy Napier, 1138 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 7: the head coach needs a win in the worst way 1139 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 7: like blood. So this is gonna be an interesting watch today. 1140 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 8: What Rich just said is fantastic gambling advice. 1141 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 9: And I know we give a lot of betting advice 1142 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 9: on who to bet on on the show. 1143 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 8: I wouldn't consider this show like. 1144 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 9: A gambling in the weeds all the time type of show. 1145 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:58,040 Speaker 9: But what Rich just said is incredible gambling advice for 1146 00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 9: the macro big picture. 1147 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 8: You are uncertain on a game. 1148 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 9: You're looking at this Texas Florida spread and you're like, 1149 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 9: it's five and a half. I could see Texas, you know, 1150 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 9: winning ten to three. I could see Texas winning thirteen 1151 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 9: to three. Look at the total and see what the 1152 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 9: market thinks the vibe of this game is going to be. Yeah, 1153 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 9: forty two is a very low. 1154 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,920 Speaker 8: Total in a college football game. 1155 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 9: So if that is what we expect the vibe to be, 1156 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 9: reassess your opinion on the spread based on what the 1157 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 9: projected total is. Right, high scoring game probably favors Texas covering, 1158 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 9: probably right, arch Manning gets going, DJ Lagway's throwing bullets. 1159 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 9: The over probably correlates a little bit more to Texas 1160 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 9: here in my opinion. Now usually its favorite and underdog 1161 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 9: and over. But I think in this particular instance, based 1162 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 9: off of the very low total and what we've seen 1163 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 9: from Florida, it kind of gives me the vibe that 1164 00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 9: Florida wants to play a thirteen to ten game. 1165 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,600 Speaker 8: That's the game they want to play. 1166 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 9: That's the way their defense is played, that's how their 1167 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 9: running game is played. 1168 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 8: So now that you can look at the total. 1169 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 9: And say, wow, forty two is really low, reassess your 1170 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 9: opinion on who wins based off of that total. I 1171 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 9: think that is always a great way to also gauge props. 1172 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 9: We'll talk about it a little bit, you know later 1173 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 9: and prop it up. I reassess my vibe on a 1174 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 9: prop based off of what the game total is. So 1175 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 9: use what information the market and the sportsbooks are giving 1176 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,000 Speaker 9: you to reformat your opinion on a game. 1177 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,760 Speaker 8: Really good macro advice Rich just gave and you can 1178 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 8: apply to this Texas Farida game. 1179 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 5: By the way, last little tiny nugget. Texas, they rank 1180 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 5: number fifteen in the SEC in red zone touchdown percentage. 1181 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 5: They're also twelfth in third down offense. Right, so you're 1182 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 5: relating at the under. It's like, once they're in the 1183 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 5: red zone, they're not scoring touchdowns, No, it's third down. 1184 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 5: They're having hard time picking up first downs, they're having 1185 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 5: a hard time moving the chains. And these defenses are 1186 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 5: both good. So yeah, under seems to make a lot 1187 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,440 Speaker 5: of sense in this one. 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Coming 1197 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 5: up next, our main man, Seamus McGee drops on by 1198 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 5: from BETMGM gets you all set for a full slate 1199 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 5: of college games and maybe some that aren't even you're 1200 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 5: not even aware or on the slate. It might be 1201 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 5: a part of his shame as special we'll find out. 1202 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 5: It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff presented by BETMGM. 1203 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 5: It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff presented by BETMGM. 1204 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,920 Speaker 5: We got to add the kickoff now right. We're in 1205 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 5: football season here, hey, be sure to subscribe to the 1206 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,479 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. 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Good morning, Seamus. 1216 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 5: So I first off, maybe you can help me out. 1217 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,560 Speaker 5: I know your Virginia Cavaliers. 1218 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 6: You love them. 1219 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 5: You were storming the field, you were knocking, you were 1220 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 5: bowling over poor Florida State players last week. 1221 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 4: You know. 1222 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,200 Speaker 5: And I see this number next to their name. I 1223 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:54,480 Speaker 5: see a two four. I don't know if you can 1224 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 5: you enlighten me what that even means? 1225 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 1: Three words? Get used to it. Yes, this is a 1226 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 1: top twenty five football team, fellas, get used to it. 1227 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: Big game room for a wet down spot here. They 1228 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:13,080 Speaker 1: gotta go. 1229 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 9: A top twenty five team that is a dog against 1230 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:19,560 Speaker 9: Louisville today. 1231 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 4: How do we is that? 1232 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,200 Speaker 8: Telling you a touchdown dog at Louisville today? Is that 1233 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,800 Speaker 8: a track line? Everyone's on Virginia right in all? 1234 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 1: I think Louisville is a pretty underrated team. I don't 1235 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 1: think it looks great against JAMU at the start of 1236 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 1: the other they still ended up winning by fourteen. I 1237 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 1: think melar Man's is a really good quarterback. I think 1238 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 1: Louisville's a little slept on around the country, but we're 1239 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 1: still seeing some handle trickle in on this game. It 1240 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,600 Speaker 1: is pretty balanced so far. A little bit more action 1241 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 1: on Louisville though, But the Sharks did like Virginia early 1242 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,400 Speaker 1: in the week. When this is touching seven. 1243 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:58,040 Speaker 7: You know, we're just talking about this Florida Texas game. Uh, 1244 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:02,080 Speaker 7: it feels like Florida knee to win like blood because 1245 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 7: of the situation. Billy Napiers in low spread Texas favored, 1246 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 7: but not by much, not up to a touchdown. 1247 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:12,480 Speaker 4: What's your feel on this game? 1248 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 7: Arch Manning hasn't looked like the next prodigal Sun at 1249 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,920 Speaker 7: quarterback that we were expecting against Ohio State and the opener. 1250 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:22,439 Speaker 4: How do you see this one going? 1251 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,800 Speaker 1: Some of our friends like to say people are betting 1252 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,320 Speaker 1: this game with yesterday's paper. He seems like, I mean, 1253 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 1: this line opened seven. We're down to four and a 1254 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:36,360 Speaker 1: half now and it is pros versus Joe. The public 1255 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 1: is all over Texas, it doesn't matter the number, but 1256 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 1: the Sharks just keep driving this number down. So the 1257 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,720 Speaker 1: book is on the same side as some of the 1258 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,000 Speaker 1: sharper betters here we're going to be rooting for Florida, 1259 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 1: and Florida outright would also be amazing for the book. 1260 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a scary one, sorry, Brian. 1261 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 5: How about ranked versus ranked here Seamus right, the two 1262 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:04,280 Speaker 5: big ones and at Bama, Miami at Florida State, anything 1263 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,080 Speaker 5: you like in those games, side or total. 1264 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 1: The Vama game is interesting here. We've seen a lot 1265 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 1: of Alabama money come in. I mean, bus of the 1266 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt money was coming in at you know, eleven and 1267 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 1: a half. But I think the under is going to 1268 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 1: be mostly the need in that Vanderbilt game, and so 1269 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 1: far on Miami versus Florida State, I mean, it's a 1270 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 1: weird spot for Florida State. They're going to come back 1271 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 1: and get ready because this is a really good Miami team. 1272 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,600 Speaker 1: But the money's pretty you know, bound fifty to fifty 1273 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 1: on this spread right now. 1274 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 9: Another one that's kind of peaking my interest in terms 1275 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 9: of the trap potential. Iowa State a dog against Cincinnati, 1276 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 9: right and you see this is one of those games 1277 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 9: where right right, we talked about this in college basketball 1278 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 9: a lot where like the unranked home favorite. I don't 1279 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,840 Speaker 9: really know much about Cincinnati this year. I haven't loved 1280 01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:01,880 Speaker 9: what I seen. They stubbed their toe and Iowa States again. 1281 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,480 Speaker 8: This Big twelve is wide open. 1282 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 9: Either of these teams I think can win it with 1283 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 9: the numbers telling me Cincinnati is the right side right. 1284 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 1: Only one name you gotta know on Cincinnati Brendan Soresby. 1285 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 1: He's been one of the best quarterbacks in the country 1286 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 1: this year. And yeah, this is that classic spot where 1287 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,640 Speaker 1: the ranked team goes to the unranked team and they're 1288 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,440 Speaker 1: a dog and everyone knows about it now because we're 1289 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 1: going to be Iowa State here. But it is definitely 1290 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,040 Speaker 1: a weird line. Another name you should know on Cincinnati's 1291 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,880 Speaker 1: Dante Corleone, or has his friends called Don Corleone. He 1292 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,080 Speaker 1: might be up this week for Cincinnati. A big time 1293 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:36,960 Speaker 1: defensive linemen. 1294 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 7: All right, jamis obviously Penn State licking their wounds a 1295 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 7: little bit after the Ducks came to State College and 1296 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,560 Speaker 7: ruined a white out party. They're on the road at UCLA. 1297 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 7: They're favored by almost was the quarter century mark, the 1298 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 7: twenty four and a half point of favorites on the 1299 01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:00,160 Speaker 7: road against the Bruins. The Bruins have been horrible, but 1300 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:01,400 Speaker 7: can they cover this spread? 1301 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 1: This number does not feel high enough for me to 1302 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:11,320 Speaker 1: take Ucla. But I mean, and every it's everyone's aware 1303 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,040 Speaker 1: of it. I mean, it's still the Sharks are keeping 1304 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:14,920 Speaker 1: at twenty four and a half. But I mean, it's 1305 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 1: it's it's Franklin. It's a big game. They have to 1306 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 1: win by a lot of points. Public's pilot on ten 1307 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 1: State this week. It's gonna be it might be another 1308 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 1: white out at the Rose Bowl this week. It might 1309 01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,280 Speaker 1: be just another Penn State home games. 1310 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,960 Speaker 6: All right, Seamus, it's that time the Shamus Special. What 1311 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,600 Speaker 6: do you have circled for us this week? 1312 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 1: No, you are not getting deja vu. We are going 1313 01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:41,440 Speaker 1: back to Stetson, Florida, and we are taking over fifty 1314 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,960 Speaker 1: nine and a half in Davidson Stepson, these are two 1315 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,960 Speaker 1: awful defenses. I think there's gonna be a lot of 1316 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:47,960 Speaker 1: scoring in this one. 1317 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:48,560 Speaker 8: Wow. 1318 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,320 Speaker 9: Okay, I love them so but that's next level. I 1319 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 9: didn't know Davidson had a football team. I thought they 1320 01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 9: were only Steph Curry basketball. 1321 01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, that was that's all I knew about them. My god, 1322 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,920 Speaker 7: this is I mean, you know, and and here's the 1323 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 7: crazy thing about the Shamus Special. You may think, like, well, 1324 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 7: Davidson and Stetson. I mean, there's golden them hill, Seamus. 1325 01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 7: He's he's pulled some some odd ones out for us 1326 01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 7: that have cashed. 1327 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, there were a few on the board today. Zalpo 1328 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:23,200 Speaker 1: versus Drake. We got date. But Stetson's just calling me back. 1329 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,479 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is down there, but we 1330 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,559 Speaker 1: like the over. We like points in that one today. 1331 01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,799 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, well good luck with that play, Seamus, 1332 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,479 Speaker 5: love it, but and uh, enjoy the day, you know, 1333 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:34,280 Speaker 5: have a great day. 1334 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 6: We'll catch you soon, Bud. 1335 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:37,640 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, enjoying the games today. 1336 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 4: You too. There. 1337 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,000 Speaker 5: He is Seamus McGee, team lead of sports trading at 1338 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 5: Bett MGM. Yeah, how about his Virginia Calve Calves the 1339 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:51,479 Speaker 5: Cavaliers the who's they are ranked. They're on the road 1340 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,680 Speaker 5: facing an unranked Louisville in Virginia, like Jared said, is 1341 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,479 Speaker 5: a six and a half point dog. 1342 01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 1: That is. 1343 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:03,519 Speaker 5: This reminds me of remember when Vanderbilt was favored against 1344 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,040 Speaker 5: South Carolina. This is earlier in the year, and you're like, Wow, 1345 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,559 Speaker 5: South Carolina's ranked and they're they're the dog that that 1346 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 5: line just stunk to the high heavens. Vandy won like 1347 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:15,040 Speaker 5: thirty one to seven. 1348 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:15,599 Speaker 6: You know what I mean. 1349 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's gonna be thirty one to seven 1350 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,599 Speaker 5: in this Louisville game, but I'll tell you right now 1351 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 5: it's gonna be in rapid fire. I'm on Louisville. This 1352 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 5: this life stinks out a loud Yeah, I mean, it's 1353 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 5: this is the Baar trap of all traps. If you're like, 1354 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 5: I get Virginia end points, it's like, yeah, it's not 1355 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:31,680 Speaker 5: gonna work out. 1356 01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:32,400 Speaker 6: It's just not. 1357 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1358 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:38,679 Speaker 7: Virginia, They've been impressive. They've been one of the most 1359 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:43,599 Speaker 7: efficient teams in the ACC this season so far. They 1360 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,519 Speaker 7: especially offensively, the balance they have between the pass and 1361 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 7: their ground game, they've been highly effective. 1362 01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:52,600 Speaker 4: Louisville though, I. 1363 01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,280 Speaker 7: Mean, they've leaned heavily on their defense, so it's strength 1364 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:59,400 Speaker 7: against strength, and the numbers show just how effective all 1365 01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 7: of that has been shutting down opponents. I mean, if 1366 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:07,760 Speaker 7: you look at the stat sheet, they're fantastic. How about this, 1367 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:11,040 Speaker 7: They've been elite on late downs, allowing conversions all only 1368 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:15,200 Speaker 7: thirty one plus percent of attempts. That's twelfth in the 1369 01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:19,320 Speaker 7: country right now. They're a good third down defense. And 1370 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 7: so what is the cure to an offense that has 1371 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:26,760 Speaker 7: things rolling running into a defense that Stymi's offenses on 1372 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:31,639 Speaker 7: those critical downs. So strength on strength cards it feels 1373 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:32,920 Speaker 7: like a good bet today. 1374 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll be perfectly honest. I've not scouted Louisville once 1375 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,680 Speaker 9: all year. I haven't watched much film on them. I 1376 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 9: don't know much about them. I do think Chandler Morris 1377 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 9: the Virginia quarterbacks playing at a pretty high level right now. 1378 01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,080 Speaker 9: That's what I noticed last week in that Friday game 1379 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:53,599 Speaker 9: against Florida State. Seventy percent completion rate looks really good. Again, 1380 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,000 Speaker 9: this is a Virginia offense that does have a few 1381 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,240 Speaker 9: more bells and whistles than what we're used to seeing. 1382 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,719 Speaker 9: When I look at just a straight matchups with these teams, 1383 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,559 Speaker 9: it does look like Louisville's got a lot of green 1384 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:05,200 Speaker 9: across the board. 1385 01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,320 Speaker 8: Defensively, I think that's their edge in this game. 1386 01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 9: Top fifteen in success right, top twenty five on third downs. 1387 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:16,120 Speaker 9: They're really good at, you know, preventing explosives and not 1388 01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,920 Speaker 9: committing a ton of penalties. So I think this is 1389 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 9: that's the matchup to watch here. It's that Virginia offense 1390 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,120 Speaker 9: with Morris, who looks better going on the road and 1391 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,639 Speaker 9: trying to solve a Louisville defense that's got a little 1392 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:29,879 Speaker 9: bit of, I guess. 1393 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:30,519 Speaker 4: Giddy up to it. 1394 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,000 Speaker 8: But the number under a. 1395 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,599 Speaker 9: Touchdown is kind of like, the fact that this thing 1396 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,400 Speaker 9: is at seven and it's been kind of hovering around 1397 01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 9: seven all week tells me that that's probably a fair number. 1398 01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:41,800 Speaker 9: We saw some seven and a half earlier that got 1399 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,639 Speaker 9: back to Virginia and now it kind of has been 1400 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 9: moving back towards the seven on the Louisville side. I 1401 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 9: think Brian nailed it. I think you just you trust 1402 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,439 Speaker 9: that the market is telling you something here with the 1403 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 9: unranked home favorite. We talk about this trend all the 1404 01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,600 Speaker 9: fricking time in college basketball. 1405 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,880 Speaker 8: We don't see a lot in college football, but when 1406 01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 8: you do see it. 1407 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,519 Speaker 9: It raises eyebrows. So this is Louisville or pass one 1408 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:08,599 Speaker 9: hundred percent of the time. 1409 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:09,240 Speaker 4: Man. 1410 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's the thing. Virginia they allow a lot 1411 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:16,080 Speaker 5: of big plays. They allow eighty percent of opponents red 1412 01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,120 Speaker 5: zone trips to be touchdowns. 1413 01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,320 Speaker 6: That's a lot. 1414 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,760 Speaker 5: There's a going many stops in the red zone and 1415 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,800 Speaker 5: this is let down city. The spot that was such 1416 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:31,160 Speaker 5: an emotional what double overtime against Florida State. Nip and 1417 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,479 Speaker 5: tuck like the field, storming the whole thing. And now 1418 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,840 Speaker 5: you got to gear up hit the road against a 1419 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:41,480 Speaker 5: team like Rich said in Louisville that is stemying opponents 1420 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:45,400 Speaker 5: on early downs. That is a tough, tough task at 1421 01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,120 Speaker 5: not gonna be easy at all. So yeah, I like Louisville. 1422 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:51,479 Speaker 5: In this one, we've got Rich Orenberger, Penn State All American, 1423 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:55,720 Speaker 5: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian know. Be sure 1424 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,360 Speaker 5: to check out the new looking features in the BEDMGM app. 1425 01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,760 Speaker 5: It's fast and easy access to this sports you love. 1426 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,360 Speaker 5: It's the fastest BETMGM app. Ever, it's easier than ever 1427 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,800 Speaker 5: to find the bets you love. 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All right, 1446 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:03,080 Speaker 5: let's do this. 1447 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,240 Speaker 3: Prop it up player plays. 1448 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:13,120 Speaker 5: Okay, prop betsko, Lord Jared, we start with you with 1449 01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:13,800 Speaker 5: something you like. 1450 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:20,480 Speaker 9: Let's talk about saw Bob. Who is saw Bob Sawyer Robertson, 1451 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,519 Speaker 9: quarterback for Baylor. Fun fact, leading passer in the nation 1452 01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 9: this year. Sawyer Robertson a Baylor. Maybe some of you 1453 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,080 Speaker 9: didn't know that, Well, we'll let's educate you right now. 1454 01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,479 Speaker 9: We're gonna go over three hundred and one and a 1455 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,719 Speaker 9: hook today on his passing yard total, leave the country 1456 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,240 Speaker 9: with over seventeen hundred passing. 1457 01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:39,719 Speaker 8: Yards this season. Really impressive stuff. 1458 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:43,400 Speaker 9: He at four nineteen against Auburn, four forty against SMU, 1459 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,000 Speaker 9: three ninety three last week against Okay State. This week 1460 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,200 Speaker 9: he plays Kansas State outside the top one hundred and 1461 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,600 Speaker 9: explosive pass rate defensively, so they are prone to the 1462 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,400 Speaker 9: big play, despite the fact that they have faced Iowa State, 1463 01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 9: North Dakota Army, who doesn't throw Arizona UCF. So I 1464 01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:06,320 Speaker 9: am very bullish on Baylor's passing offense today. None of 1465 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,599 Speaker 9: those teams I just mentioned average two fifty per game. 1466 01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,559 Speaker 9: Baylor averages three to fifty per game. No alpha receiver either. 1467 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,559 Speaker 9: Five players with at least sixteen receptions this year, all 1468 01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,400 Speaker 9: five of those guys averaging thirteen or more yards per catch. 1469 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,519 Speaker 9: Robertson spreading it around nicely. Saw Bob over three oh 1470 01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,400 Speaker 9: one and a hook passing yards today for the Bears. 1471 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,160 Speaker 4: Saw Bob love it all right. Give me. 1472 01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:32,559 Speaker 7: Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia on the road against Alabama the 1473 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:33,439 Speaker 7: Crimson Tide. 1474 01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,840 Speaker 4: I'm taking the over on his rushing yard fifty six 1475 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:37,360 Speaker 4: and a half. 1476 01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:41,560 Speaker 7: Here's why Alabama struggles against mobile quarterbacks. 1477 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:41,880 Speaker 4: In the Deboor years. 1478 01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:46,559 Speaker 7: Here also Pavia fearless rusher in the passing game and 1479 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,760 Speaker 7: also planned QB runs. It's part of their offense with 1480 01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:54,080 Speaker 7: him and Alexandra of the backfield. Alabama's porous rush defense, 1481 01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:58,160 Speaker 7: plus the fact that on the perimeter they're especially bad, 1482 01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,880 Speaker 7: gives Pavia an opportunity to exploit the edges of a 1483 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:02,960 Speaker 7: soft defense. 1484 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,080 Speaker 4: They break contain a lot in the run game. 1485 01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,559 Speaker 7: I think it gives him an opportunity to move the 1486 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,760 Speaker 7: James pile up some yardage. 1487 01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,639 Speaker 4: Give me Pavia over fifty six and a half rushing 1488 01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,719 Speaker 4: yards against the Crimson Tide. 1489 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,479 Speaker 5: Okay, I think the Canes are playing some bully ball 1490 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:26,080 Speaker 5: tonight against Florida State. It's the best, arguably the best 1491 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,479 Speaker 5: offensive line in the country the U. 1492 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,559 Speaker 6: I know you love it, Jared. You've been you know, definitely. 1493 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:36,200 Speaker 5: Speaking glowingly and deservedly so of those Canes. So I 1494 01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,360 Speaker 5: think they're gonna play smash mouth. Mark Fletcher Junior, He's 1495 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,320 Speaker 5: gone over one hundred yards in each of the past 1496 01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,080 Speaker 5: two games. One of those games is against Florida. If 1497 01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:48,080 Speaker 5: Florida plays real defense right Florida State's front seven, they've 1498 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:53,679 Speaker 5: struggled at times against the run and against Miami's offensive line. 1499 01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,200 Speaker 5: I just think they're gonna run it early often. 1500 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:56,759 Speaker 6: Throughout the game. 1501 01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:02,799 Speaker 5: And Jordan Lyle, he's a shifty year quicker guy. He's back, 1502 01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,439 Speaker 5: they're expecting him to be one hundred percent. Uh So, 1503 01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,439 Speaker 5: like the speed shiftingness all that. Mark Fletcher is just 1504 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,000 Speaker 5: a dump truck, you know, just running you over smash 1505 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,559 Speaker 5: Mouth and then you get Jordan Lyle back there. It's 1506 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,240 Speaker 5: a great one to two combo. So I'm gonna take 1507 01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,720 Speaker 5: Carson Beck all that to say this, I'm gonna take 1508 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 5: Carson Beck under his passing yards, which is that two 1509 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:25,799 Speaker 5: thirty six. 1510 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:26,240 Speaker 4: And a half. 1511 01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,160 Speaker 5: I just think the Kanes rely more on their running game. 1512 01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,240 Speaker 5: If you're relying on the running game, you're chewing up clock. 1513 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,800 Speaker 5: There's not that much time left in the game if 1514 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,680 Speaker 5: you're running it consistently, and I think they will, so 1515 01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:41,000 Speaker 5: I think Carson Beck will be effective tonight. But he 1516 01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,559 Speaker 5: has struggled in bigger games, at least he did last 1517 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 5: year with Georgia, so it could be the same thing. 1518 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,320 Speaker 5: And when you have more of a strength in the 1519 01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,640 Speaker 5: running game, more consistent, I think they're gonna rely on 1520 01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,320 Speaker 5: that throughout the game. So I'll take Carson Beck under 1521 01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,200 Speaker 5: two thirty six and a half passing yards. 1522 01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:00,360 Speaker 7: You know, I haven't looked at the number, but just 1523 01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:04,719 Speaker 7: speaking of passing yardage and where my brain is going 1524 01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,280 Speaker 7: on some of these spreads. I took the Penn State 1525 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:13,120 Speaker 7: side in the game against UCLA, their favorite twenty four 1526 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,920 Speaker 7: and a half on the road. The other part of that, 1527 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,679 Speaker 7: that narrative is all the things Drew Aller can't do, 1528 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 7: and so in games like that, especially with a coach 1529 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,800 Speaker 7: like James Franklin, who you know reads the paper, I 1530 01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,519 Speaker 7: feel like this could be a big passing game for 1531 01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,679 Speaker 7: Drew Aler. So I don't know what his yardage total is. 1532 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,439 Speaker 6: But I think it's two twenty four and a half. 1533 01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would take over. I would take the over 1534 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:37,439 Speaker 4: on that one. 1535 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,920 Speaker 5: Well, you know what reminds me of It reminds me 1536 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:44,040 Speaker 5: of an arch Manning spot. Remember when he had like 1537 01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:47,760 Speaker 5: like eleven straight incompletions or something like that. The next 1538 01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:50,839 Speaker 5: game he went crazy. He threw over three hundred yards. 1539 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,479 Speaker 5: So I agree with you. I think this could be 1540 01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,680 Speaker 5: an allur spot to you gotta get him some confidence. 1541 01:18:55,720 --> 01:19:00,120 Speaker 5: What better way than to do it today against the Bruins. 1542 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 4: No doubt about it. 1543 01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,600 Speaker 7: It's just it's it's the Yeah, I'm Jared, you know 1544 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,679 Speaker 7: this too, the dead cat bounce, so to speak, on 1545 01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:11,840 Speaker 7: some of the spreads and odds we talk, Well, it 1546 01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:16,160 Speaker 7: works with player props too, and confidence boosters, slumpbusters, so 1547 01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,960 Speaker 7: to speak. They matter for building confidence with quarterbacks. 1548 01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:21,800 Speaker 8: I agree. But and here's the thing. 1549 01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:23,519 Speaker 9: It goes back to exactly what you said in the 1550 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,880 Speaker 9: last segment when we were talking about the game total 1551 01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,640 Speaker 9: in Florida and Texas and how it relates to how 1552 01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,559 Speaker 9: you feel about these lines and the spreads and the props. 1553 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,720 Speaker 8: The total in pens that UCLA is forty eight and 1554 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:35,080 Speaker 8: a half. 1555 01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,920 Speaker 9: So it just doesn't lend to a game that we 1556 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,040 Speaker 9: expect to be very high scoring. Now does that mean 1557 01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:42,639 Speaker 9: there's not gonna be a lot of yards? And then 1558 01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,760 Speaker 9: Penn State just fails in the red zone, kicks field 1559 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,680 Speaker 9: goals and the game still stays under but aller goes over. 1560 01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:48,800 Speaker 8: No, I could see that as a reasonable path. 1561 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:53,760 Speaker 9: But that's why I like the sabab over because that 1562 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:59,120 Speaker 9: game I love that. Correlational to your point with the total, Yeah, 1563 01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:02,759 Speaker 9: because the Kansas State Baylor total is sixty. So again, 1564 01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,240 Speaker 9: and this is where again we're not getting two in 1565 01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:06,800 Speaker 9: the weeds with the gambling stuff. But we want to 1566 01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:08,760 Speaker 9: mention this stuff because I think it can help the 1567 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:12,280 Speaker 9: average fan. The average better look at these lines with 1568 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:16,640 Speaker 9: a little bit more depth and you know, intellectual advancement. 1569 01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,920 Speaker 9: You're looking at a game total of sixty all right, 1570 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:21,400 Speaker 9: Well we expect a lot of points in a lot. 1571 01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,120 Speaker 8: Of yards in this game. Let's look to the propovers. 1572 01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:26,200 Speaker 9: We're looking at a Florida Texas total forty two and 1573 01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,040 Speaker 9: a half, pence at UCLA total of forty eight and 1574 01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,160 Speaker 9: a half. All right, probably going to be a more 1575 01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,240 Speaker 9: defensive minded games. So if I'm looking at the props 1576 01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,960 Speaker 9: in those games, I probably want to look under first. 1577 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,960 Speaker 9: So that doesn't mean that Aller can't go over, but 1578 01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:41,080 Speaker 9: I just think directionally. When you're looking at a game 1579 01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,960 Speaker 9: total at forty eight and a half, I just don't 1580 01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 9: think there's going to be a ton of points, right. 1581 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,320 Speaker 5: I will say this like sometimes gambling can help your 1582 01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:50,240 Speaker 5: football interest. 1583 01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,360 Speaker 6: Right, We're thinking this Penn State game. 1584 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,080 Speaker 5: If Penn State gets up by three touchdowns, you might 1585 01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,240 Speaker 5: kind of zone out, But if you're invested on minus 1586 01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,840 Speaker 5: twenty four and a half, you're more I'm more locked 1587 01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:04,400 Speaker 5: in but I think also, like ask yourself this, if 1588 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,320 Speaker 5: they're up by three touchdowns, are they gonna continue to 1589 01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,439 Speaker 5: throw it? I think they should. They got to get 1590 01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,479 Speaker 5: drew Aller some confidence. But that's not even a gambling thing. 1591 01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,760 Speaker 5: That's a football thing that could keep you locked into 1592 01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:15,200 Speaker 5: that game. 1593 01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:15,559 Speaker 4: Today. 1594 01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:18,599 Speaker 6: Oh what is going on? 1595 01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:22,400 Speaker 5: Happy Saturday to you as we are one hour away 1596 01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:26,840 Speaker 5: from kickoff here on a college football Saturday, we're looking 1597 01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:30,720 Speaker 5: forward to one of the games of the evening. Miami 1598 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,920 Speaker 5: number three in the country against number eighteen Florida State. 1599 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:35,640 Speaker 4: Man. 1600 01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,040 Speaker 5: This team came up empty last week? Is it a 1601 01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:39,840 Speaker 5: good time to back them this week? That would be 1602 01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:43,559 Speaker 5: your Florida State Seminoles. They did not get to win 1603 01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,479 Speaker 5: on the road and double overtime against Virginia. That was 1604 01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,519 Speaker 5: a tough one, right, look like they're gonna have a 1605 01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:52,880 Speaker 5: game tying touchdown and the ball was bobbled, guy comes 1606 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,080 Speaker 5: down with it but out of bounds and they end 1607 01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,920 Speaker 5: up losing that game. That was a crazy back and forth, 1608 01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:02,520 Speaker 5: crazy pass by Astlanos to get the game into overtime 1609 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,920 Speaker 5: and then it doesn't work out once it gets there. 1610 01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:09,920 Speaker 5: So tough loss for the Seminoles. I think we kind 1611 01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,320 Speaker 5: of lost out as a whole here in college football. 1612 01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,360 Speaker 6: If these are two undefeated teams. 1613 01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:18,639 Speaker 5: This is a monster matchup, then it's still a big matchup. 1614 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:22,080 Speaker 5: I'm still excited for it. But if it's undefeated Miami 1615 01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,880 Speaker 5: against undefeated Florida State, man, that just takes you back 1616 01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,080 Speaker 5: to your youth, right, and that's not what we have. 1617 01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:28,559 Speaker 5: So that's a little bit unfortunate here. 1618 01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:29,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1619 01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:33,839 Speaker 7: You know, after a full month basically that kept Miami 1620 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,519 Speaker 7: at home against top tier opponents, they go on the 1621 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:41,880 Speaker 7: road to face the Seminoles in an important opener and 1622 01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:47,200 Speaker 7: conference play. And this is a talented offense. You know, 1623 01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:51,439 Speaker 7: you have the transfer quarterback Carson Back from Georgia who's 1624 01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:55,559 Speaker 7: got this offense finishing, drives well, and he's protected by 1625 01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:59,040 Speaker 7: a very talented group up front, good pass blockers. With 1626 01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:04,000 Speaker 7: this Miami team, this is arguably the best Miami team. Actually, 1627 01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,400 Speaker 7: it's undoubtedly the best Miami team. Christ de Ball's had 1628 01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:12,000 Speaker 7: since he's taken over down there. And I think defensively, 1629 01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:15,960 Speaker 7: they've they've picked it up a notch or more than that. 1630 01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:21,200 Speaker 7: Their new defensive coordinator has really gentrified and retro fitted 1631 01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:23,960 Speaker 7: this defense to play toward the strengths of the players 1632 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,120 Speaker 7: he has, and it's showed up on the stat sheet. 1633 01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,599 Speaker 4: And so Miami, even though they take the show on the. 1634 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:35,960 Speaker 7: Road against differ competition, this is a good Miami team 1635 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:39,840 Speaker 7: and they belong firmly seeded in the national conversation here 1636 01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:40,360 Speaker 7: this year. 1637 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll be honest, when I first started looking at 1638 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,200 Speaker 9: this game, I didn't have a great feel for it. 1639 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,120 Speaker 9: And here's why. So my process will peak behind the curtain. 1640 01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,960 Speaker 9: My process. When I'm trying to find an edge betting 1641 01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,559 Speaker 9: a game, I'm trying to find strength on weakness. That's 1642 01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:57,599 Speaker 9: always what I'm trying to find. Is there a part 1643 01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,720 Speaker 9: of your game that you excel in that the other 1644 01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,880 Speaker 9: team doesn't. That's always when I'm going through stats, when 1645 01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:07,280 Speaker 9: I'm going through film and i'm watching, when i'm absorbing, 1646 01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:09,479 Speaker 9: that's the first thing I try to find. I couldn't 1647 01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,280 Speaker 9: find it in this game. It's strength on strength right. 1648 01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,559 Speaker 9: Florida State loves to run the ball. Their top ten 1649 01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:18,000 Speaker 9: and explosive run rate. Castiani's a great running quarterback. They're 1650 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,280 Speaker 9: great on third downs because they're typically in third and 1651 01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:23,519 Speaker 9: manageable because they're great running the ball. Teams that usually 1652 01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,519 Speaker 9: run it well, don't get into second and ten, third 1653 01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,960 Speaker 9: and eight. They're usually in second and six, third and two. Well, 1654 01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,519 Speaker 9: that's what Miami does well. The run defense is the 1655 01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,160 Speaker 9: best part of their game. Twenty percent of runs against 1656 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,639 Speaker 9: Miami this year stopped at or behind the line of scrimmage. 1657 01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,800 Speaker 9: So I'm trying to get to the next level of 1658 01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:43,799 Speaker 9: the handicap here, and I'm like, Okay, you've got Florida 1659 01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,600 Speaker 9: State off the loss. I like the bounce back, but 1660 01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:50,040 Speaker 9: you've got Miami off the by with some rest. So 1661 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:54,080 Speaker 9: it's like, again, like it's kind of conflicting elements here 1662 01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,360 Speaker 9: when I'm trying to handicap this game. The one thing 1663 01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:00,880 Speaker 9: about Castianos that scares me though, if he gets into 1664 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,040 Speaker 9: a negative game script. When you look at a quarterback, 1665 01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,519 Speaker 9: you think, oh, if they throw for more yards, their 1666 01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:11,120 Speaker 9: team typically does well. That makes sense, right, Wrong, It's 1667 01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,240 Speaker 9: actually the opposite with Castiano's when his or when he 1668 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,720 Speaker 9: throws for two hundred and forty or more yards, his 1669 01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,959 Speaker 9: teams are one and five. Why, he's a running quarterback, 1670 01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,120 Speaker 9: and when you're throwing it more with a running quarterback, 1671 01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:23,880 Speaker 9: that typically means you're losing the game. 1672 01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:25,880 Speaker 8: So again, a little bit of. 1673 01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,840 Speaker 9: I would say back and forth nature to trying to 1674 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:33,040 Speaker 9: find an edge in this game. I think the crowd 1675 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,640 Speaker 9: and the factor of Miami being on the road for 1676 01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:40,759 Speaker 9: the first time this season might be the one edge 1677 01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,360 Speaker 9: to me to bet Florida State. 1678 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,120 Speaker 8: But I'll be honest, this one is kind of a 1679 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:44,599 Speaker 8: toss up. 1680 01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:45,800 Speaker 4: Man. 1681 01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:47,760 Speaker 5: I'll tell you, if you're looking for an edge, it's 1682 01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,960 Speaker 5: Miami's running game against that defensive line of Florida State. 1683 01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:54,599 Speaker 5: Because just look at what happened last week. 1684 01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:55,599 Speaker 6: You look at Florida State. 1685 01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,679 Speaker 5: They gave up two hundred and eleven rushing yards to 1686 01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:02,880 Speaker 5: eleven against Virginia and four touchdowns on the ground, and 1687 01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,439 Speaker 5: they were down a ton of offensive linemen, like seven 1688 01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,559 Speaker 5: of their top ten offensive linemen were out, and Virginia 1689 01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,960 Speaker 5: still ran the ball on Florida State. What do you 1690 01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,439 Speaker 5: think Miami's gonna do. Miami is the best offensive line 1691 01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,839 Speaker 5: in the country. They are going to ground and pound 1692 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:20,200 Speaker 5: Florida State. And unless you know the crowd gives them 1693 01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,679 Speaker 5: some crazy juice or like Carson Beck is good enough. 1694 01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,240 Speaker 5: You can't just walk all these players into the box 1695 01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,200 Speaker 5: and dare Carson Beck to beat you. 1696 01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:28,840 Speaker 4: He will. 1697 01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:33,000 Speaker 5: He's good enough to keep your defense honest and compared 1698 01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,679 Speaker 5: to you know, Virginia last week, who had a lot 1699 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:40,080 Speaker 5: of success against Florida State's defensive line, I just don't 1700 01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,240 Speaker 5: see how Miami doesn't have a lot of success running 1701 01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:47,280 Speaker 5: the ball. Mark Fletcher Junior is a wrecking ball, and 1702 01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:50,480 Speaker 5: it looks like they're getting Jordan lyleback who's quicker, shiftier. 1703 01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:54,720 Speaker 5: I think Miami's ground game is a huge problem for 1704 01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:56,040 Speaker 5: Florida State in this game. 1705 01:26:56,640 --> 01:27:00,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, And I would argue maybe similarly Florda to State 1706 01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:04,240 Speaker 7: to Miami's defense. Miami, if they struggle, they don't have 1707 01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:08,640 Speaker 7: a lot of glaring issues, you know, overall offensively and defensively, 1708 01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:12,719 Speaker 7: but if they struggle anywhere, not a great tackling team. 1709 01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,280 Speaker 7: And so you mentioned it, Jared. With Casianos being a 1710 01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:19,439 Speaker 7: running quarterback, I do think he'll have to rely on 1711 01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,840 Speaker 7: the throw here in this game. Because Miami's stout against 1712 01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,639 Speaker 7: inside zone. They're gonna stop a lot of the early 1713 01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,280 Speaker 7: down run game that the Seminoles are going to try 1714 01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:29,000 Speaker 7: to get to. 1715 01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,360 Speaker 4: But if they start exploiting the. 1716 01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:36,960 Speaker 7: Edges of this defense with Cassianos involved in in the 1717 01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:40,680 Speaker 7: run game, it could get to the point where we 1718 01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:45,439 Speaker 7: see Miami giving up some explosives on misstackles because it's 1719 01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,040 Speaker 7: really been their only achilles heel all season long. So 1720 01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:52,160 Speaker 7: I like this game being a back and forth battle 1721 01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:53,720 Speaker 7: a little bit. And I do think we're going to 1722 01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:57,240 Speaker 7: see explosives on the ground both way, both ways, not 1723 01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,920 Speaker 7: only for Miami's offense, but for the seminals as well. 1724 01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:04,879 Speaker 9: M Yeah, I'll give you some some notes on Miami's 1725 01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,960 Speaker 9: offensive line. I've talked about it before. I think this 1726 01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:09,919 Speaker 9: is the best offensive line in the country. 1727 01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:10,720 Speaker 4: I really do. 1728 01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:12,920 Speaker 9: I thought it was Penn State, but I guess I 1729 01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,360 Speaker 9: have to reevaluate that opinion based off of last week. 1730 01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,840 Speaker 9: Although that right guard, that Vega kid, he keeps getting 1731 01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:19,120 Speaker 9: better every week. I think he's going to be a 1732 01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:23,240 Speaker 9: top fifteen pick. Guards typically, Sorry, Rich, aren't you highly 1733 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,880 Speaker 9: coveted in the high rounds or the high picks of 1734 01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:27,639 Speaker 9: the draft, But I do think he's one of the best. 1735 01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,240 Speaker 9: Speaking of guards, and as Cooper right guard for Miami 1736 01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 9: six six, three fifty, he. 1737 01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,320 Speaker 8: Blocks through the echo of the whistle. 1738 01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,600 Speaker 9: He is as nasty of a run blocker as you 1739 01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,920 Speaker 9: will see, chest up and brings the pain. 1740 01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:41,800 Speaker 8: The right tackle. 1741 01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,760 Speaker 9: Francis Mayoga, also first round pick attacking the second level. 1742 01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,080 Speaker 9: You don't see tackles get to the second level too often. 1743 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,000 Speaker 9: He's a guy that has the athleticism to do so. 1744 01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,639 Speaker 9: And then the left side of the line, they're kind 1745 01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:54,720 Speaker 9: of going through a little bit of renovation with the 1746 01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,240 Speaker 9: left side of their offensive line, but it's improving every week. 1747 01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:01,080 Speaker 9: And I love Mark Fletcher six five, big back with speed. 1748 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:05,520 Speaker 9: So this is a team that is nasty running the football. 1749 01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:09,160 Speaker 9: I agree with you, Brian. That is the edge in 1750 01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,479 Speaker 9: this game for Miami if they if they can run 1751 01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:15,360 Speaker 9: it effectively, if they can stay in a positive game script, 1752 01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,680 Speaker 9: if Carson Beck doesn't make the big mistake. He's been 1753 01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:22,599 Speaker 9: prone to interceptions sometimes on the road especially. I think 1754 01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,679 Speaker 9: the edge for Miami in this game is that offensive line. 1755 01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,559 Speaker 9: You don't see O lines used as a weapon too often. 1756 01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:30,920 Speaker 9: The Detroit Lions do it all the time. That is 1757 01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,080 Speaker 9: their mo They use their O line as a weapon. 1758 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,519 Speaker 9: Miami has an offensive line as talented, if not more, 1759 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,599 Speaker 9: in terms of relative speaking. Obviously they're pros to collegiate athletes, 1760 01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:43,240 Speaker 9: but in terms of the relative talent on the offensive 1761 01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,720 Speaker 9: line for Miami compared to the defensive lines that they 1762 01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:47,880 Speaker 9: typically face in college football, I think is on that 1763 01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,680 Speaker 9: level where last year you saw the Lions, we're you know, 1764 01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:54,559 Speaker 9: using offensive lines like you know, basically like a spread 1765 01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,479 Speaker 9: offense almost it's crazy. So I think this Miami o 1766 01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,320 Speaker 9: line does have an edge. I think Fletcher's are really 1767 01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:01,880 Speaker 9: good back and I think Miami, if they run it effectively, 1768 01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:04,040 Speaker 9: that is the recipe to go on the road in 1769 01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:05,720 Speaker 9: a tough environment and get a big win. 1770 01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:06,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1771 01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:08,919 Speaker 6: And I also think you look at Miami. 1772 01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:13,000 Speaker 5: They're number thirteen in the nation in rush defense, and 1773 01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,520 Speaker 5: you think about that. If they're able to play effective 1774 01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,920 Speaker 5: rush defense against Florida State, that to me is like 1775 01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,640 Speaker 5: taking away their fastball, you know what I mean, Like, 1776 01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,960 Speaker 5: think about we're in the baseball playoffs. Now let's get 1777 01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,600 Speaker 5: some Tarrek Schooble action in here, right. Shout out to 1778 01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:32,080 Speaker 5: Chris Purfett, or technical producer the Tigers Van. If a 1779 01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,800 Speaker 5: team is just hitting Schoobol's fastball, He's like, that's a 1780 01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:37,639 Speaker 5: major part of my arsenal. Over, he still has other 1781 01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,120 Speaker 5: bitches and he can still be effective. And I give 1782 01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:43,200 Speaker 5: Castellanos his credit because he can throw it. They're not 1783 01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:47,000 Speaker 5: just a rushing attack, but that's their bread and butter. 1784 01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:51,280 Speaker 5: That's their fastball. And if Miami is playing good sound 1785 01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:56,800 Speaker 5: rush defense, that is really problematic for Florida State when 1786 01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,519 Speaker 5: they might have to match points. Like Miami's gonna score points, 1787 01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,200 Speaker 5: I think they're going to run the ball down Florida 1788 01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:04,360 Speaker 5: State's throat. And if Florida State can't turn around and 1789 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,040 Speaker 5: then run it effectively against Miami, I think they're really 1790 01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:08,120 Speaker 5: going to be up against it. 1791 01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, let's get a little bit nerdy here, just to 1792 01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:14,639 Speaker 7: just to bring some of the like, let's go like 1793 01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:19,000 Speaker 7: the like the hard nose, you know, you know football 1794 01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:22,080 Speaker 7: fans under the tenth for a moment, You're gonna see 1795 01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,280 Speaker 7: a lot and I mean a lot of cover three 1796 01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:30,080 Speaker 7: from from this Miami defense, which means that they're trying 1797 01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:33,160 Speaker 7: to avoid the big play downfield. They like to take 1798 01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,800 Speaker 7: the roof off of the offense, so to speak. But 1799 01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:38,720 Speaker 7: that's okay because the Seminoles, like you mentioned, they want 1800 01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:42,559 Speaker 7: to rely more on the run game. But the problem 1801 01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:46,599 Speaker 7: is against coverages where there's three deep. 1802 01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:48,960 Speaker 4: Florida State has done a great job. 1803 01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:52,519 Speaker 7: They have a high success rate, nearing sixty percent of 1804 01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:56,439 Speaker 7: completions against that coverage. Likewise, what the Seminoles are going 1805 01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:59,240 Speaker 7: to do defensively is sit back there in quarters coverage? 1806 01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:02,879 Speaker 7: What is car and beck highest success rate against coverage 1807 01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:07,360 Speaker 7: wise quarters? So you see strength on or I should 1808 01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:11,559 Speaker 7: say you see strength on weakness with coverage versus QB 1809 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:16,240 Speaker 7: and how they react to what they're seeing. Defensively, there 1810 01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:20,599 Speaker 7: are certain things that quarterbacks are just more comfortable throwing 1811 01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,760 Speaker 7: to because it's what they saw more of in high 1812 01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:25,080 Speaker 7: school or it's what they've been exposed to more of 1813 01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:28,280 Speaker 7: at practice or over the course of their collegiate career. 1814 01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:32,360 Speaker 7: Clearly Casianos has an easier time looking at man coverage 1815 01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:33,960 Speaker 7: and finding the open receiver. 1816 01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:37,559 Speaker 4: He throws open his receiver, Carson Beck. 1817 01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:41,000 Speaker 7: He does a nice job finding the voids in the 1818 01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:46,800 Speaker 7: zone when you have more deep zone players. He's going 1819 01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:49,400 Speaker 7: to throw in front of the defense. He's going to 1820 01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:52,920 Speaker 7: get yards after catch by setting up his players with 1821 01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:56,040 Speaker 7: good timing routes. And so this is going to be 1822 01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,040 Speaker 7: a little bit of a war of attrition on both 1823 01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:01,519 Speaker 7: sides defensively in the passing game, because you're going against 1824 01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,759 Speaker 7: quarterbacks who are comfortable throwing against the coverage as you present. 1825 01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:07,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, I took a little Florida State this week at 1826 01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:08,280 Speaker 9: four and a half. 1827 01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,960 Speaker 8: It's not a four now, I still would consider betting it. 1828 01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:16,479 Speaker 9: I think it's just I struggle with laying numbers on 1829 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:18,160 Speaker 9: the road or you know, more than a field goal 1830 01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:19,600 Speaker 9: on the road with a team that hasn't been on 1831 01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:23,120 Speaker 9: the road yet this year. And that's it's weird. You know, 1832 01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:24,960 Speaker 9: we're in the first week of October and Miami has 1833 01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:28,240 Speaker 9: yet to play a true road game. That's the only thing. 1834 01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,720 Speaker 9: And we talk about this a lot with you know, 1835 01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,719 Speaker 9: Drew Roller and Penn State. We need to also bring 1836 01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:37,160 Speaker 9: Mario Crystaball into the chat. Oh yeah, absolutely right, Like 1837 01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,200 Speaker 9: we haven't mentioned that name yet this year in the 1838 01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:44,920 Speaker 9: crystal Ball way that he can cut right, yeah, tight 1839 01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:49,960 Speaker 9: sphincter syndrome. It's a thing with mister crystal Ball. And 1840 01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:52,479 Speaker 9: I love this Miami team. I have some Carson Beck 1841 01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,160 Speaker 9: for Heisman. I think Miami's legit. I think their offensive line, 1842 01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,479 Speaker 9: as I said, is the best in the country. But 1843 01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,920 Speaker 9: we talk about getting Lagway at some point this year, 1844 01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:04,360 Speaker 9: we're gonna get Crystabald, right, Yeah, yeah. 1845 01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's true. It is true because he will he'll 1846 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:08,360 Speaker 5: get conservative to a fault. 1847 01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:10,400 Speaker 6: And man, we talked about It's funny. 1848 01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:14,000 Speaker 5: We talked about Ryan Day last year getting tight and 1849 01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:17,000 Speaker 5: he gets tight, and then all of a sudden they 1850 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:19,720 Speaker 5: got loose when the playoff ruled around And then then 1851 01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:24,360 Speaker 5: you saw them take off if Miami, you know they can. 1852 01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:28,760 Speaker 5: We're up by seven. Let's be conservative here. It's like, no, man, 1853 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:32,160 Speaker 5: just play your game. Stop playing the score, and just 1854 01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:36,080 Speaker 5: play your game. I've seen that so many times, like 1855 01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:39,280 Speaker 5: time and time and time again with Justin Herbert, who's 1856 01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:43,400 Speaker 5: flourishing as an NFL quarterback. They were so careful. They 1857 01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:47,320 Speaker 5: were like Drew Aller careful, no kidding. With Herbert at 1858 01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:50,920 Speaker 5: Oregon when Chrystal Ball was there, it was obnoxious. It 1859 01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:52,880 Speaker 5: was just like, let's be careful, let's be careful. Oh 1860 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,679 Speaker 5: we're losing, go ahead and win it for is Herbert 1861 01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:57,000 Speaker 5: and he's like, no problem, I got you. Finally I 1862 01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,599 Speaker 5: can do something here, right. So it's something to keep 1863 01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,840 Speaker 5: an eye on, for sure. Crystal Ball gets very tight. 1864 01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:06,559 Speaker 7: Yeah, However, in close games, I mean you could see 1865 01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:08,920 Speaker 7: these offenses opening up a little bit. The more we 1866 01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:12,920 Speaker 7: talk about this, the less I'm interested on a side here, 1867 01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,679 Speaker 7: and the more I'm interested in the over I think. 1868 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:17,760 Speaker 4: I think we just. 1869 01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:21,439 Speaker 7: The success rate these qbs have against the type of 1870 01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:24,400 Speaker 7: coverages they're going to see. The faith I have in 1871 01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:27,479 Speaker 7: both of these teams run games, I feel like we 1872 01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:31,200 Speaker 7: could see we're at fifty four and a half, right, 1873 01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:35,360 Speaker 7: I could see this marching close to that number over Yeah, 1874 01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:40,880 Speaker 7: I mean, just just in terms of I agree with you, 1875 01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:43,840 Speaker 7: Chrystal Ball. It's hard to be on Miami with the 1876 01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,400 Speaker 7: way he's coached in certain games. 1877 01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:47,400 Speaker 4: Florida State. 1878 01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,400 Speaker 7: I don't know if I'm a complete believer yet, but 1879 01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:52,120 Speaker 7: the over feels like it's in play. 1880 01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:57,800 Speaker 9: Here's a good question, which script favors Which team does 1881 01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:00,760 Speaker 9: a low scoring game with Miami's game favor of the 1882 01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:04,520 Speaker 9: Hurricanes winning, or does a low scoring game with Castiano's 1883 01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:09,240 Speaker 9: keeping bully ball control with his legs favor Florida State. 1884 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:11,040 Speaker 6: You know, it's funny. 1885 01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:15,080 Speaker 5: I think low or high scoring still favors Miami both 1886 01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:19,000 Speaker 5: They both of them favor Miami because they could play 1887 01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,479 Speaker 5: low scoring bullyball. Yeah, they could play more of a 1888 01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,639 Speaker 5: high scoring game. I like Miami both ways. 1889 01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:27,200 Speaker 9: Miami does have a good change up. I think I 1890 01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:29,680 Speaker 9: think Miami like to me, Carson Beck is like the 1891 01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,720 Speaker 9: number one guy right Like he's the he's the quarterback. 1892 01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:34,639 Speaker 9: He's the four star kid that came in the transfer. 1893 01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:37,080 Speaker 9: But Miami's change up is that run game in that 1894 01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:40,679 Speaker 9: offensive line. Like, that's to me, utilizing that offensive line 1895 01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,000 Speaker 9: as a throttle up, throttle down for when we they 1896 01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:45,519 Speaker 9: did it against Florida, Right, Carson Beck wasn't having a 1897 01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:46,639 Speaker 9: great game against Florida. 1898 01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:47,800 Speaker 8: It was kind of you. 1899 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:49,519 Speaker 9: Know, that zone coverage was kind of tripping them up 1900 01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:50,799 Speaker 9: a little bit through a bad interception. 1901 01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:52,080 Speaker 8: It was kind of hit or miss. 1902 01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:55,200 Speaker 9: But then in the second half of that game, they said, 1903 01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:57,040 Speaker 9: screw this, We're just gonna run it right down your 1904 01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,720 Speaker 9: throat and they closed out the football game utilizing that 1905 01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:00,559 Speaker 9: all offensive line. 1906 01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:02,240 Speaker 8: It was a very low scoring game. 1907 01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:04,360 Speaker 9: And then on the other side of the equation in 1908 01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:06,720 Speaker 9: the in notre Name game, you saw Carson Beck's arm 1909 01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:11,120 Speaker 9: and his explosion with those receivers be the deciding factor. 1910 01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:12,759 Speaker 8: So to your point, Brian, I agree. 1911 01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,200 Speaker 9: I think Miami can lever up, lever down based off 1912 01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:19,880 Speaker 9: of the style. Styles make fights, Like what style of 1913 01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:21,240 Speaker 9: game does Florida State. 1914 01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:21,799 Speaker 8: Want to play? 1915 01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,120 Speaker 9: They might set the tone at home, but then I 1916 01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:25,240 Speaker 9: think Miami can counter. 1917 01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:26,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1918 01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:27,320 Speaker 8: Right, it's a fun game. 1919 01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:29,880 Speaker 9: There's a fun Matt honestly, really very fun matchup this game. 1920 01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:31,280 Speaker 8: I'm very excited to watch this game. 1921 01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:33,559 Speaker 5: I am too, I am too, and I don't want 1922 01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,000 Speaker 5: to be the Debbie Downer here, But man, what could 1923 01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:38,400 Speaker 5: have been a Florida State found a way, especially like 1924 01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:41,439 Speaker 5: double overtime, I know, the found away on the road 1925 01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:44,519 Speaker 5: to win this dramatic game against Virginia and that man, 1926 01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:47,400 Speaker 5: now we got what would it be like three verses four? 1927 01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:49,880 Speaker 5: I don't even know, yeah, three versus ten something like that, 1928 01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:51,920 Speaker 5: something like yeah, yeah. 1929 01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:55,680 Speaker 7: Speaking of overtime losses, I mean, if Penn State just 1930 01:37:55,760 --> 01:38:00,400 Speaker 7: didn't throw an inn or so, you know, would be 1931 01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:00,880 Speaker 7: so different. 1932 01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:02,360 Speaker 9: They still would have lost the game. You know why, 1933 01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,200 Speaker 9: because they were up to seven and overtime and their 1934 01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:06,760 Speaker 9: defense couldn't get off the field. We were gonna cover 1935 01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,040 Speaker 9: that one in overtime. That would have been the awesome, 1936 01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,559 Speaker 9: the best front door cover ever we've somehow got across 1937 01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:13,240 Speaker 9: the finish line. 1938 01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:15,800 Speaker 8: But of course the defense couldn't get us home. 1939 01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,559 Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw up. We'll be right back. 1940 01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:20,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, don't throw off. You're in a car right now. 1941 01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:24,080 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's good. That all right? 1942 01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:27,200 Speaker 5: We got we got rich Hornberger, Penn State all American 1943 01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:29,320 Speaker 5: Jared Smith, FSR betting analyst. 1944 01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:30,080 Speaker 6: I'm Brian No. 1945 01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:34,799 Speaker 5: Bet MGM players will receive college Football Odds Boost tokens 1946 01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:38,160 Speaker 5: and college Football Parlay Boost tokens throughout the season to 1947 01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:39,920 Speaker 5: use on college football bets. 1948 01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:41,240 Speaker 6: Score extra winnings. 1949 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:43,680 Speaker 5: If your bet with the token applied wins, check it 1950 01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,200 Speaker 5: out in the bet MGM app. 1951 01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:47,439 Speaker 6: All right, coming up next. 1952 01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,040 Speaker 5: This team has been pretty good this season, but they 1953 01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:54,080 Speaker 5: are big underdogs today. 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They're four and one. 1975 01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:06,600 Speaker 5: Their only loss was last week against the Tennessee team 1976 01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:10,160 Speaker 5: where it was this crazy shootout game. They had a 1977 01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:14,679 Speaker 5: chance to score a touchdown in overtime to keep the game, 1978 01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:18,160 Speaker 5: like extend the game, and it fell short. But you 1979 01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:21,360 Speaker 5: lose an overtime against Tennessee, that's your only loss on 1980 01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:25,919 Speaker 5: the year. They're sixteen and a half point undertos against 1981 01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:29,679 Speaker 5: Texas A and M. I is a disrespectful line. It's 1982 01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:31,680 Speaker 5: one that makes me say, WHOA, Maybe you guys know 1983 01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:34,800 Speaker 5: something I don't know. This is only the second road 1984 01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:37,559 Speaker 5: game for Mississippi State. Their only road game was the 1985 01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:40,840 Speaker 5: first game of the season at Southern miss They beat 1986 01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:44,320 Speaker 5: Arizona State at home. They faced Alcorn State in Northern 1987 01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:48,160 Speaker 5: Illinois at home. They lost that close one against Tennessee 1988 01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:51,639 Speaker 5: in overtime, and now we hit the road again. But man, 1989 01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:54,360 Speaker 5: A and M, you see A and M covering sixteen 1990 01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:57,320 Speaker 5: and a half today against Mississippi State, who's been feisty 1991 01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:57,840 Speaker 5: thus far. 1992 01:40:58,080 --> 01:40:59,280 Speaker 6: What are you see in this one? 1993 01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:03,960 Speaker 7: You know, I'm not disagreeing with you full out because 1994 01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:07,920 Speaker 7: I credit to the Bulldogs. Mississippi State has looked competent 1995 01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:11,760 Speaker 7: at very least this season, if not good, But it 1996 01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:15,400 Speaker 7: kind of feels like Texas A and M should be 1997 01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:18,920 Speaker 7: able to sail past them without too much heartache. And 1998 01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:23,920 Speaker 7: here's why Mississippi State doesn't get any pressure on quarterbacks, 1999 01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:25,799 Speaker 7: I mean less than zero. 2000 01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:27,040 Speaker 4: It's bad. 2001 01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:29,960 Speaker 7: And in order to have a chance against Texas A 2002 01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:31,800 Speaker 7: and M, you need to be able to disrupt their 2003 01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:34,560 Speaker 7: passing game. And the best way to do that, obviously 2004 01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:38,160 Speaker 7: is with a pass rush, which the Bulldogs really provide 2005 01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:43,840 Speaker 7: zero urgency, it feels like upfront. So that is a 2006 01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:47,439 Speaker 7: huge win just just in terms of game script for 2007 01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:50,960 Speaker 7: A and M to sort of operate unfettered from a 2008 01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:54,040 Speaker 7: passing game. And you know, you look back to the 2009 01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:56,760 Speaker 7: Mississippi State against tennis. Even though it's a close game 2010 01:41:56,760 --> 01:42:01,240 Speaker 7: into the fourth quarter, ten of the passes went for 2011 01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:04,840 Speaker 7: at least fifteen yards in that game from the balls offense. 2012 01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:07,800 Speaker 7: It just doesn't bode well against the Texas A and 2013 01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:09,559 Speaker 7: M offense that may be even better. 2014 01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:14,519 Speaker 9: Yet, when I watch this ANM offense, it's very stop start. 2015 01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:18,479 Speaker 9: It's like one yard, two yards, fifty yards, one yard, 2016 01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:20,760 Speaker 9: two yards, twenty five yard Like it's it's kind of 2017 01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:22,360 Speaker 9: like a Sputters butter spit offense. 2018 01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,160 Speaker 5: Or against Notre Dame, it's like one yard, two yard 2019 01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:26,280 Speaker 5: eighty five yards. 2020 01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:29,800 Speaker 9: You know you throw, yeah, but that's the vibe, right, 2021 01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:33,440 Speaker 9: Like I think A and M does have this explosive 2022 01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:35,800 Speaker 9: potential with Marcel Reid, but it can be a little 2023 01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:40,439 Speaker 9: bit inconsistent sometimes, which d gives up more explosives, like 2024 01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:43,440 Speaker 9: when you want to talk about, yeah, trying to predict 2025 01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:47,320 Speaker 9: which team is going to win a football game. Turnovers 2026 01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:50,479 Speaker 9: is obviously a huge thing, but explosives that's the new 2027 01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:55,240 Speaker 9: that's all the rage these days. Can you create an 2028 01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:58,840 Speaker 9: explosive play on offense or defense On the defensive side, 2029 01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:02,320 Speaker 9: we call it havoc. That's kind of the term that 2030 01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:05,040 Speaker 9: gets used in the analytical circles these days when we're 2031 01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:10,160 Speaker 9: trying to describe defensive explosives. Mississippi State has to cause 2032 01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:13,719 Speaker 9: havoc defensively today. Why they don't have a ton of depth, 2033 01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,919 Speaker 9: so they're kind of a bend but don't break defense. 2034 01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:20,360 Speaker 8: That means they need to a create turnovers, create. 2035 01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:24,880 Speaker 9: Negative plays because if not eventually and the market's kind 2036 01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:27,559 Speaker 9: of telling you right. Sometimes when you're undecided on a game, 2037 01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:30,519 Speaker 9: use the numbers the market is giving you to try 2038 01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:34,679 Speaker 9: to formulate or reformat, refocus your opinion. 2039 01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:37,920 Speaker 8: Missisippi State's played pretty well this year, won a. 2040 01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:40,280 Speaker 9: Couple games that maybe they shouldn't have won, big upset 2041 01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:44,040 Speaker 9: over Arizona State, battled against Tennessee. But they're on the 2042 01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:47,200 Speaker 9: road against a good team, and the market is telling 2043 01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:50,559 Speaker 9: you that they are going to get hammered. So don't 2044 01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:56,559 Speaker 9: let their solid performances early in the season take away 2045 01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:58,640 Speaker 9: from the fact that at their core, this was a 2046 01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:00,639 Speaker 9: team with a win total of three and a half 2047 01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:02,719 Speaker 9: heading into the season. They've burning one over that win total. 2048 01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:05,080 Speaker 9: Great job by you if you bet the over, but 2049 01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,640 Speaker 9: this at their core, they feel like a team that 2050 01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:11,479 Speaker 9: needs to create that explosive play, both on offense and 2051 01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,160 Speaker 9: on defense. And if they can't do that today, if 2052 01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:18,040 Speaker 9: they can't get TFLs, if they can't force turnovers, it 2053 01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:20,160 Speaker 9: kind of feels like a and M is just gonna 2054 01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:23,880 Speaker 9: go one, two fifty one, two sixty and eventually they'll 2055 01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:24,920 Speaker 9: get in front of the number. 2056 01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:27,800 Speaker 5: And they've got the dudes to do it, right If 2057 01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:31,759 Speaker 5: Mississippi State is getting no pressure as rich throughout there, 2058 01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:35,160 Speaker 5: I mean, you've got Marcel Reid, who's a home run 2059 01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:38,720 Speaker 5: hitter and he's throwing to Mario Craver, who I still 2060 01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:42,040 Speaker 5: have nightmares about against Notre Dame, and Casey Concepts, the 2061 01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,920 Speaker 5: own who's been a really good transfer for them. Le'Veon 2062 01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:48,559 Speaker 5: Moss looked great last week. He ran for a healthy 2063 01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:51,040 Speaker 5: total like over like around one thirty five or he 2064 01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:52,200 Speaker 5: went crazy last week. 2065 01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:53,639 Speaker 8: He might be the best running back in the country 2066 01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:54,840 Speaker 8: outside of Jeremiah. 2067 01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:56,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree. 2068 01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:58,320 Speaker 6: Hey, well, speaking to Jeremiah Lte. 2069 01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:01,160 Speaker 8: Oh that's a right there. 2070 01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:05,080 Speaker 5: We got Boise State at number twenty one, Notre Dame, 2071 01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:09,080 Speaker 5: Notre Dame taking up an even healthier favorite twenty one 2072 01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:13,600 Speaker 5: and a half. Wow against Boise States. A that's a 2073 01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,400 Speaker 5: lot to cover right there. But I'll tell you what, 2074 01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:18,400 Speaker 5: here's my question with Notre Dame. They played real defense 2075 01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:21,360 Speaker 5: last week against Arkansas, and ah, how sweet that was. 2076 01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:23,600 Speaker 5: Heading into that game, it seemed like the world was 2077 01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:24,599 Speaker 5: I love Arkansas. 2078 01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:24,960 Speaker 4: Me too. 2079 01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:25,839 Speaker 5: I love Arkansas. 2080 01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:26,200 Speaker 4: You too? 2081 01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:29,080 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, John, you and y'all. We're all in on Arkansas. 2082 01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:29,919 Speaker 5: I love Arkansas. 2083 01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:30,599 Speaker 3: Who's John? 2084 01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:31,519 Speaker 8: I don't know. 2085 01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:35,200 Speaker 9: There's a guy who loves the rasor guy who loves Arkansas, 2086 01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:36,280 Speaker 9: who loves the poor. 2087 01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:37,920 Speaker 8: This week he's living under a bridge. 2088 01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:40,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, Joe, you went on the Razorbacks. Hell yeah, I'm 2089 01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:41,240 Speaker 5: in on the Razorbacks. 2090 01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:45,720 Speaker 9: Also living under a bridge, Yepole fifty. 2091 01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:49,720 Speaker 5: Six to thirteen And that Notre Dame defense, that was 2092 01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:54,120 Speaker 5: a surprise. They've been a grease fire all season long. 2093 01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,960 Speaker 5: And you hold Taylor Green and check, you hold that 2094 01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:02,120 Speaker 5: Bobby Petrino offense in check to the tune of thirteen points. 2095 01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:03,120 Speaker 8: Got that trade fired? 2096 01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:07,360 Speaker 5: Yeah that's right. Yeah, Petrino's in like Sam Pittman is out. 2097 01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:10,880 Speaker 5: So you've got a Notre Dame's defense looked at a 2098 01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:15,040 Speaker 5: whole lot better. Will it look good going forward or 2099 01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:17,200 Speaker 5: are they gonna revert back to their horrid ways? 2100 01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:17,559 Speaker 4: Now? 2101 01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:20,640 Speaker 5: It's probably somewhere in the middle. But what do you 2102 01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,080 Speaker 5: think it's gonna be more of? Do you think it's 2103 01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:26,479 Speaker 5: gonna be, you know, like somewhat stellar like last week, 2104 01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:28,840 Speaker 5: or it's gonna be train wreck city like it was 2105 01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,160 Speaker 5: for the other games this season. 2106 01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:34,040 Speaker 7: Well, you guys know the ties I have to the 2107 01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:36,120 Speaker 7: Mount West. I call a bunch of games in the 2108 01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:39,080 Speaker 7: Mount West. I was on one last night between Colorado 2109 01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:42,600 Speaker 7: State and San Diego State in San Diego, a blowout 2110 01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:46,080 Speaker 7: of bloodbat. San Diego State was trouncing the Rams, but 2111 01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:48,519 Speaker 7: getting to the Broncos here against Notre Dame. 2112 01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:51,439 Speaker 4: You know, look, a group of five favorite every year 2113 01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:52,160 Speaker 4: for good reason. 2114 01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:55,600 Speaker 7: The past two decades. They've built up this incredible profile 2115 01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:59,360 Speaker 7: of winning. And after that road loss to USF to 2116 01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:03,160 Speaker 7: open this season, they've bounced back nicely. They've won three straight. 2117 01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:07,559 Speaker 7: They've opened up in the passing game. They've scored forty 2118 01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:11,960 Speaker 7: nine points per game through the past three. And you 2119 01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:16,560 Speaker 7: have Dylan Riley, you have sired games. Both are averaging 2120 01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:20,679 Speaker 7: over six yards per carry. They're trying to replace ashten genty, 2121 01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:24,240 Speaker 7: the now Raider running backs production from a year ago, 2122 01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:25,559 Speaker 7: and they're doing a nice job. 2123 01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:29,600 Speaker 4: And then you have k Poles who Madson their quarterback. 2124 01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:32,240 Speaker 7: Is throwing to and he's got a boatload of receiving 2125 01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:36,880 Speaker 7: yards already and two touchdowns, so he's an explosive playmaker 2126 01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:40,720 Speaker 7: as part of this Boise State offense. That's the synopsis 2127 01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:44,719 Speaker 7: that you have not a tremendous defense here going against 2128 01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:48,240 Speaker 7: this Notre Dame defense. I mean, look sixty three and 2129 01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:51,400 Speaker 7: a half. Like Jared was telling you earlier, you got 2130 01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:54,160 Speaker 7: to listen to the market sometimes and maybe. 2131 01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:55,799 Speaker 4: Take a harder look at the props. 2132 01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:58,080 Speaker 7: This may come up on rapid fire, by the way, 2133 01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:01,760 Speaker 7: because the market's telling you that there should be a 2134 01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:05,200 Speaker 7: lot of a lot of yardage in this game, a 2135 01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:07,360 Speaker 7: lot of scoring in this game, and it's not going 2136 01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:10,960 Speaker 7: to be all one way. Boise State's gonna get theirs 2137 01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:14,000 Speaker 7: in this game. It could be a closer game than 2138 01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:14,920 Speaker 7: you're comfortable with. 2139 01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:18,400 Speaker 4: Mister no hm m I see. 2140 01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,280 Speaker 9: When I watched Boise in that F and to be fair, 2141 01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:21,880 Speaker 9: I have not watched them the last few weeks. I 2142 01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:24,160 Speaker 9: kind of wrote Boise off after that USF game. 2143 01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:24,519 Speaker 4: Oak. 2144 01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:26,519 Speaker 8: Yeah, this team's gonna struggle this year without Ash. 2145 01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:28,880 Speaker 4: I don't blame you, by the way. A loss. 2146 01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:31,800 Speaker 9: Yeah it was, and it's not like USF's looked great 2147 01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:34,519 Speaker 9: since then. But I think what USF was able to 2148 01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:39,000 Speaker 9: do is exploit the physicality. That's the one thing about 2149 01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:41,160 Speaker 9: Boise and we saw in the Penn State game last 2150 01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:45,120 Speaker 9: year too. They struggle when they are when the game 2151 01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:48,200 Speaker 9: is brought to them and they're the nail, not the hammer. 2152 01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:52,000 Speaker 9: They're typically the hammer because they play in a conference 2153 01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:54,760 Speaker 9: that doesn't have a ton of physicality and they have 2154 01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:56,720 Speaker 9: better players than a lot of these other teams in 2155 01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:57,439 Speaker 9: the Mountain West. 2156 01:48:57,960 --> 01:48:59,960 Speaker 8: Well, now they're they're level I think. 2157 01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:03,360 Speaker 9: Of talent is just tailed off a little bit and 2158 01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:07,200 Speaker 9: they're struggling to be that hammer. And when they are, 2159 01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:09,600 Speaker 9: you see it against Air Force and app State in 2160 01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:10,519 Speaker 9: Eastern Washington. 2161 01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:11,559 Speaker 8: Sure it's great. 2162 01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:14,400 Speaker 9: Now you're facing a very upset Notre Dame team that 2163 01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:16,400 Speaker 9: still feels like they have a chip on their shoulder, 2164 01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:19,120 Speaker 9: and they've now scored fifty six points in back to 2165 01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:21,760 Speaker 9: back weeks and the defense is kind of starting to 2166 01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:26,120 Speaker 9: button things up. My vibe is if Notre Dame can 2167 01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:29,120 Speaker 9: win this game by fifty, they will because now they 2168 01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:31,479 Speaker 9: need style points. We are at the point now in 2169 01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:35,040 Speaker 9: the season where if they go ten and two, they 2170 01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:37,760 Speaker 9: should be in the playoffs. As long as those ten 2171 01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:40,800 Speaker 9: wins down the stretch look pretty darn good, and they've 2172 01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:42,680 Speaker 9: got a lot of opponents that they can put some 2173 01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:46,000 Speaker 9: distance between themselves right at n See State US SEE. 2174 01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:47,920 Speaker 9: That actually gonna be a really interesting game against USC 2175 01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:51,040 Speaker 9: and then Boston College. Navy pits here at CU Stanford. Like, 2176 01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:55,280 Speaker 9: we expect Notre Dame to be ten and two, but 2177 01:49:55,479 --> 01:50:00,719 Speaker 9: it will be ten wins against unranked teams, so those 2178 01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:03,680 Speaker 9: ten wins need to be pretty darn decisive. 2179 01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:06,680 Speaker 8: Now, is twenty one and a half a fair number? Probably? 2180 01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:09,720 Speaker 9: Notre Dame is coming off of a whopper of a win. 2181 01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:13,280 Speaker 9: You typically don't bet on teams after they win by 2182 01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:15,600 Speaker 9: forty three. You're just not getting a great number in 2183 01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:18,799 Speaker 9: the market because the market typically moves in that team's favor. 2184 01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:21,920 Speaker 9: And on the other side of the equation, Boise State's 2185 01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:24,120 Speaker 9: also coming off of a really big, decisive win, but 2186 01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:26,639 Speaker 9: they're facing they faced app States, So again, the market 2187 01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:29,000 Speaker 9: dynamics here, I think are telling you Notre Dame should 2188 01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:33,120 Speaker 9: comfortably win this game. I just don't know if they 2189 01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:34,840 Speaker 9: are going to win it by that much. This is 2190 01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:37,519 Speaker 9: a layoff for me. I think twenty one is fair. 2191 01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:38,879 Speaker 9: I think that's a fair price. 2192 01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:39,200 Speaker 8: For this game. 2193 01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:43,000 Speaker 5: Okay, how about Texas Tech at Houston? This number is 2194 01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:45,479 Speaker 5: creeping up a little bit more. Texas Tech now favored 2195 01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:48,840 Speaker 5: by thirteen and a half. Very impressive last week. They 2196 01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:52,439 Speaker 5: lost well. Last game, they lost their quarterback Baron Morton 2197 01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:54,000 Speaker 5: to injury against Utah. 2198 01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:55,200 Speaker 6: Here comes Will Hammond. 2199 01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:58,760 Speaker 5: How does thirteen for sixteen for a bucks sixty nine 2200 01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:02,360 Speaker 5: and two touchdowns with no sound against the really physical 2201 01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:06,639 Speaker 5: Utah defense. That's like wow, all of a sudden, Texas 2202 01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:09,680 Speaker 5: Tech is plug and play. Like their defensive line is 2203 01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:12,200 Speaker 5: really good. You look at this Houston offense. I just 2204 01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:14,800 Speaker 5: don't see how they match points at all they are. 2205 01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:19,280 Speaker 5: They're three and out nearly thirty nine percent of the time. 2206 01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:23,200 Speaker 5: That is dreadful, and I just I think they're gonna 2207 01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:24,519 Speaker 5: get steamrolled in this game. 2208 01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,800 Speaker 7: You gotta love what Texas Tech did just from a 2209 01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:33,439 Speaker 7: recruitment and transfer portal standpoint, they spent a lot of money. 2210 01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:39,000 Speaker 7: They were able to secure twenty one extremely high caliber transfers, 2211 01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:44,200 Speaker 7: including shoring up the defensive line with David Bally. Their 2212 01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:48,160 Speaker 7: defense has been incredibly stingy. They've only surrendered or they 2213 01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:50,600 Speaker 7: haven't surrendered more than fourteen points in a game so 2214 01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:54,720 Speaker 7: far this season, and they were able to stifle Utah 2215 01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:57,920 Speaker 7: in Salt Lake City, not an easy place to play. 2216 01:51:57,960 --> 01:51:58,240 Speaker 4: Well. 2217 01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:01,680 Speaker 7: I've been to rice ecls many time, and that's a 2218 01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:04,800 Speaker 7: tough environment on the road to have success. 2219 01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:06,280 Speaker 4: So I agree with you. 2220 01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:10,439 Speaker 7: I don't know how much Houston has for Texas Tech. 2221 01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:15,240 Speaker 7: They stacked up this offseason in terms of exploiting the 2222 01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:20,760 Speaker 7: new rules, the transfer portal, NILS. It's retro fitting and 2223 01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:24,599 Speaker 7: changing some of these programs that are really you know, 2224 01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:27,519 Speaker 7: that have a strong base of donors and alumni who 2225 01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:30,080 Speaker 7: are interested in investing in the program's future. 2226 01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:31,960 Speaker 4: And that's what the Red Raiders have. 2227 01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:35,920 Speaker 7: And like I said, already, early this season, you're seeing 2228 01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:38,679 Speaker 7: a lot of these transfers playing great football. They gelled 2229 01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:41,559 Speaker 7: early this season. Texas Tech, They're on a little bit 2230 01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:42,680 Speaker 7: of a warpath right now. 2231 01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:44,920 Speaker 8: Guys, don't overthink this one. 2232 01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:50,440 Speaker 9: Sometimes you just have to look at the basic, basic stats, 2233 01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:54,640 Speaker 9: at basic results, and you can formulate an opinion on 2234 01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:57,560 Speaker 9: the game. I've not watched Houston once all year, full disclosure, 2235 01:52:57,600 --> 01:52:59,000 Speaker 9: I haven't watched one second of them. 2236 01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:00,000 Speaker 4: How dare you? 2237 01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:04,680 Speaker 9: How dare to flow in the Big Twelve, which, by 2238 01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:07,360 Speaker 9: the way, the Big twelve. The PAC twelve died so 2239 01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:10,280 Speaker 9: the Big twelve could live. What a weird Blackie conference 2240 01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:14,000 Speaker 9: this year? The Big twelve is but Houston wins over 2241 01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:16,400 Speaker 9: Steven f Austin, Rice, Colorado, Oregon State. 2242 01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:20,400 Speaker 7: Okay, I watched the entire Houston Oregon State game, and 2243 01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:22,800 Speaker 7: I promise you didn't miss much. 2244 01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:23,960 Speaker 8: I didn't miss much. 2245 01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:28,200 Speaker 9: Meanwhile, Texas Tech, you know, blowout wins over Arkansas, Plin, 2246 01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:30,840 Speaker 9: buff Kent State, Oregon State, and then the win at Utah. Right, 2247 01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:34,439 Speaker 9: that's the one that you have to take seriously. If 2248 01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:37,080 Speaker 9: you go on the road in conference play and you 2249 01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:41,599 Speaker 9: decisively win, it changes your chemistry, It changes the way 2250 01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:44,280 Speaker 9: you feel about your team, right, and Rich I know 2251 01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:45,640 Speaker 9: you do this because you go on the road with 2252 01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:46,240 Speaker 9: these teams. 2253 01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:48,000 Speaker 8: When you're coming back from. 2254 01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:50,840 Speaker 9: A road win, oh man, like, there is no better 2255 01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:52,920 Speaker 9: feeling than that on the team, boss, team playing whatever. 2256 01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:56,720 Speaker 9: So just based off that result in itself, you have 2257 01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:58,839 Speaker 9: to take Texas Tech seriously. Then you look at Houston's 2258 01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:01,519 Speaker 9: offense and you're wow, they're like one hundred and thirty 2259 01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:04,200 Speaker 9: first in offensive success, Right, how the heck are they 2260 01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:05,320 Speaker 9: four and oh? 2261 01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:06,880 Speaker 8: And then you look at the market and you're like. 2262 01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:10,200 Speaker 9: Wow, Texas Tech's a fourteen point favorite on the road 2263 01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:14,400 Speaker 9: in conference play. Again, don't overthink this. The market is 2264 01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:18,599 Speaker 9: telling you that Texas Tech is the significantly better team 2265 01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:20,519 Speaker 9: despite the fact that both these teams have the exact 2266 01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:23,720 Speaker 9: same record. Don't overthink it, bet Texas Decker, don't bet 2267 01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:24,280 Speaker 9: this game at all. 2268 01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:27,439 Speaker 5: Well, and I also think, hey, man, listen, three and out. 2269 01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:30,720 Speaker 5: I don't think it's ever good, right, but it can 2270 01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,760 Speaker 5: be way worse against certain opponents. So if you think 2271 01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:36,240 Speaker 5: of Houston again, they go three and out nearly thirty 2272 01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:39,200 Speaker 5: nine percent of the time. Wolf, that's a ton You 2273 01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:42,160 Speaker 5: go three and out against Oregon State, Eh, you know 2274 01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:44,600 Speaker 5: it might be okay. You go three and out against 2275 01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:45,360 Speaker 5: Texas Tech. 2276 01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:46,640 Speaker 4: Lookout. 2277 01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:50,520 Speaker 5: The chances are they probably scored their previous drive and 2278 01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:53,560 Speaker 5: now they're right back on the field again and your 2279 01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:58,280 Speaker 5: defense might be gassed. That is a recipe for disaster. 2280 01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:01,280 Speaker 6: For Houston in this one. Oh yeah, it's uh. 2281 01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:03,680 Speaker 5: I think you have to take something pretty fluky for 2282 01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:07,120 Speaker 5: uh Houston to even hang in this one. So man, 2283 01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:09,000 Speaker 5: I have I have like nineteen plays I want to 2284 01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:11,720 Speaker 5: sneak into right now, fire, I know, I gotta whittle 2285 01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:14,120 Speaker 5: it down to three. This is an American what are 2286 01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:17,480 Speaker 5: we doing? We got rich Orenberger, Penn State All American, 2287 01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:21,760 Speaker 5: Jared Smith FSR. Betting analyst. I'm Brian No Coming up next, 2288 01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:24,880 Speaker 5: rapid Fire. We each have three selections for you. We 2289 01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:32,120 Speaker 5: throw them your way in a concise, strategic fashion. I 2290 01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:34,000 Speaker 5: don't know if that makes sense, but a bunch of 2291 01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:37,080 Speaker 5: picks coming up. It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff, 2292 01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:40,560 Speaker 5: presented by Bet MGM. It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown 2293 01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:44,400 Speaker 5: to Kickoff, presented by Bett MGM. If you missed anything 2294 01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:47,200 Speaker 5: on today's show, you'll want to catch the podcast. 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Our technical producer extraordinary Chris Purfett. Shout 2306 01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:22,320 Speaker 5: out to him and shout out to our guy Sager 2307 01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:26,000 Speaker 5: on digital posting our clips. Give Fox Sports Radio a 2308 01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:30,000 Speaker 5: follow on x can see our smiling faces over there. 2309 01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:31,800 Speaker 5: All right, we got some picks to make before we 2310 01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:34,760 Speaker 5: do that up on game LaVar Arrington, TJ. Huschman's out 2311 01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:37,840 Speaker 5: of Plexico Birthday've got you covered less than ten minutes 2312 01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:39,960 Speaker 5: from now, keep it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio. 2313 01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:43,360 Speaker 5: How dare I almost short change them on a shout out? 2314 01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:44,920 Speaker 5: I'm just so kiddy about these picks. 2315 01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:45,720 Speaker 8: Let's do it. 2316 01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:50,080 Speaker 3: Rapid fire. 2317 01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:53,480 Speaker 6: All right, Jared, we start with you. What's something you like? 2318 01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:56,240 Speaker 9: I've gone two and one four street leads. I will 2319 01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:58,839 Speaker 9: take that every single week for the rest of the season. Please, 2320 01:56:59,160 --> 01:57:02,840 Speaker 9: Gambling God, don't smite us. I'm gonna lay twenty four 2321 01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:04,720 Speaker 9: and a half points with Penn State today Ucla. 2322 01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:06,120 Speaker 8: Maybe I'm a glutton for punishment. 2323 01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:07,680 Speaker 9: If you think it was a rough week for Penn State, 2324 01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:10,640 Speaker 9: how about Ucla that's been the entire season. Parted ways 2325 01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:14,000 Speaker 9: with Tino Sinseri, the're oc the tight end coach and 2326 01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:18,360 Speaker 9: former UCLA quarterback Jerry Neuheisel will call plays this week. 2327 01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:21,240 Speaker 9: And yes, Drew Allers looked like Uncle Drew this season, 2328 01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:23,200 Speaker 9: but I think this is a good spot for the 2329 01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:26,200 Speaker 9: Nittney Lions that bounce back. Hopefully the run game really responds. 2330 01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:28,800 Speaker 9: Nebraska minus twelve and a half at home against Michigan State. 2331 01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:30,839 Speaker 9: Get back game for the Huskers. They lost to Michigan 2332 01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:33,600 Speaker 9: two weeks ago. Two years ago Matt rules first season 2333 01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:36,760 Speaker 9: as head coach. They went to Michigan State as a 2334 01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:39,800 Speaker 9: road favorite. Sparti was zero to five in the Big Ten. 2335 01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:42,480 Speaker 9: They upset the corn Huskers. There's your bulletin board material. 2336 01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:44,600 Speaker 9: Big game for Nebraska as they try to get their 2337 01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:47,280 Speaker 9: CFP hopes back on track. I think they cover against 2338 01:57:47,320 --> 01:57:50,400 Speaker 9: Party and I'm going over Vandy and Bama over fifty 2339 01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:54,640 Speaker 9: five and a half. Both offenses hunting explosives, the ego Pavia. 2340 01:57:54,720 --> 01:57:57,520 Speaker 9: I love this kid plays football without announce of fear. 2341 01:57:57,600 --> 01:58:00,560 Speaker 9: Simpson is a legit Heisman candidate, and there's some juice 2342 01:58:00,560 --> 01:58:02,760 Speaker 9: to this game. Over fifty five and a half, Bandy 2343 01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:04,120 Speaker 9: and Memma, all right. 2344 01:58:04,160 --> 01:58:08,160 Speaker 7: I start us off with the Manning Lagway Bowl, Texas. 2345 01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:12,840 Speaker 7: They've gotten extremely strong defense Florida. They're not slouches on 2346 01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:16,200 Speaker 7: that side of the ball, and Manning is breaking in 2347 01:58:16,360 --> 01:58:19,760 Speaker 7: his season still as as he takes over as the 2348 01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:24,680 Speaker 7: starter with Tejas, Florida's offense is dreadful. That's four reasons 2349 01:58:24,720 --> 01:58:27,520 Speaker 7: to take the under. I'm taking the first half under, 2350 01:58:27,680 --> 01:58:30,000 Speaker 7: So give me under twenty one and a half points. 2351 01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:33,120 Speaker 4: In Florida, Texas, Boise State quarterback. 2352 01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:34,360 Speaker 6: I think it's twenty. 2353 01:58:34,440 --> 01:58:36,720 Speaker 4: Is it twenty? Are you okay with that? Yeah? Give 2354 01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:39,680 Speaker 4: me twenty and a half. I'll take it. I'll take it. Yeah. 2355 01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:41,040 Speaker 7: I don't think a lot of points are going to 2356 01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:42,960 Speaker 7: be scored in that game. Thank you for the correction. 2357 01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:49,640 Speaker 7: Boise State facing Notre Dame QB of Maddox Madson. His 2358 01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:54,080 Speaker 7: line on the passing yardage is two fifteen and a half. Look, 2359 01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:56,440 Speaker 7: the market is telling you points will be scored. The 2360 01:58:56,440 --> 01:58:59,240 Speaker 7: total is up to sixty three and a half points 2361 01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:03,480 Speaker 7: mean passing yardage. Madson hasn't thrown under two fifteen all 2362 01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:09,280 Speaker 7: season long. He's gonna go over that mark. Alabama Vandy, Okay, 2363 01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:13,080 Speaker 7: the over is in play here. Fifty six and a 2364 01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:15,120 Speaker 7: half is where that numbers at right now? 2365 01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:16,680 Speaker 4: Diega Pavia. 2366 01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:19,120 Speaker 7: He's gonna pick up some explosives in the past game. 2367 01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:21,600 Speaker 7: He can hurt you with his like bamouth defense. Gives 2368 01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:24,360 Speaker 7: up a bunch of points that haven't been able to 2369 01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:25,640 Speaker 7: keep people out of the end. 2370 01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:27,760 Speaker 4: Zon Vandy is also an. 2371 01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:33,080 Speaker 7: Average passing defense, and I'll say this, Ty Simpson looks 2372 01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:35,800 Speaker 7: like a Heisman finalist, so I think points will be 2373 01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:38,720 Speaker 7: scored fifty six and a half. I feel like the 2374 01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:41,600 Speaker 7: total can sail pass this, So give me the over 2375 01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:42,560 Speaker 7: there as well. 2376 01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:45,760 Speaker 5: Okay, I will. 2377 01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:47,560 Speaker 6: I will go with an under as well. Rich I'm 2378 01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:50,560 Speaker 6: with you. I gave this out in the parlay platter. 2379 01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:51,200 Speaker 6: I like it. 2380 01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:53,680 Speaker 5: I just think that there's a lot of defensive talent 2381 01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:57,480 Speaker 5: and I don't trust either offense, especially the DJ Lagway offense. 2382 01:59:57,520 --> 02:00:00,720 Speaker 5: Give me Texas Florida under forty two, two and a half. 2383 02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:03,840 Speaker 5: I'm laying the six and a half with Louisville. I 2384 02:00:03,880 --> 02:00:06,760 Speaker 5: think it's the stinkiest line of the week, but it 2385 02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:10,200 Speaker 5: does make some sense. Virginia off a very emotional win 2386 02:00:10,360 --> 02:00:12,280 Speaker 5: double overtime against Florida State. 2387 02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:15,560 Speaker 6: We had Florida State seminals getting. 2388 02:00:15,240 --> 02:00:18,600 Speaker 5: Bowled over by a tidal wave of fans rushing the field, 2389 02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:21,600 Speaker 5: storming the field, right, So I'm just gonna be hard 2390 02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:25,280 Speaker 5: to crank it up again. Such a it's letdown city. 2391 02:00:25,320 --> 02:00:27,600 Speaker 5: This is a letdown spot if there ever was one. 2392 02:00:28,240 --> 02:00:30,240 Speaker 5: And you look at Virginia. They allow a lot of 2393 02:00:30,280 --> 02:00:33,560 Speaker 5: big plays and they allow you to score touchdowns in 2394 02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:36,320 Speaker 5: the red zone. So I'll take Miller Moss, I'll take 2395 02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:37,839 Speaker 5: Louisville minus the six. 2396 02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:39,880 Speaker 6: And a half, and I'm rolling with my guy. 2397 02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:44,280 Speaker 5: Give me Notre Dame wide receiver Malachai fields over fifty 2398 02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:47,080 Speaker 5: three and a half receiving yards. He is a fifty 2399 02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:52,200 Speaker 5: yard receiving metronome. They're gonna be scoring points. They're gonna 2400 02:00:52,240 --> 02:00:55,240 Speaker 5: be gaining yards against Boise State. You need style points 2401 02:00:55,240 --> 02:00:56,360 Speaker 5: as well. Give me Malachai.