Speaker 1: For a game like Balder'sgate with over seventeen thousand possible endings?
Speaker 1: Are you recording all of those? The ending I got
Speaker 1: was destroying the nether brain?
Speaker 2: How did you get that ending? You don't play games?
Speaker 1: I just read this Kashha Tosh Show Up, Tosh Show,
Speaker 1: Cup Show. Hey there you are. It's me Daniel Tosh.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Tosh Show. Eddie. What up? I had a
Speaker 1: great weekend. My wife was out of town and you're
Speaker 1: probably like, well, you got to spread out in the bed.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I let my son join me. Then I don't have
Speaker 1: to do the whole thing fighting to put him down.
Speaker 1: I'm like, stay up as late as you want. I
Speaker 1: don't care. But on Friday I took him to Dave
Speaker 1: and Busters. Now that was a big deal. Neither one
Speaker 1: of us have ever been to Dave and Busters. The
Speaker 1: reason that I was interested in the first place was
Speaker 1: because they had a new commercial for Dave and Busters
Speaker 1: and they're doing like a human claw machine for kids
Speaker 1: where they get strapped in and you control them and
Speaker 1: then they pick up a toy. Well, apparently that's participating
Speaker 1: locations only because the one that we went to didn't
Speaker 1: fucking have it. It doesn't matter. Let me get let
Speaker 1: me start this. I first, you know, I don't ever
Speaker 1: do anything on my own. I call Pete. I say, Pete,
Speaker 1: I'm going to david Busters. Do I need a reservation.
Speaker 1: He's like, where are you going? I'm like, I like, noon's.
Speaker 1: I think you'll be okay. We walked through the door.
Speaker 1: There is no one in the place. And when I
Speaker 1: say no one, I mean no employees. There's no people.
Speaker 1: There's one of those computer screens like just like welcome.
Speaker 1: And he's like, buy a card to go start playing games.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh wow, this would have been embarrassing
Speaker 1: had I asked for reservations for the two of us.
Speaker 1: We get a card. I'm like, I don't know how
Speaker 1: many games we need. I put one hundred dollars in
Speaker 1: guess what way too much? Holy cat. We didn't even
Speaker 1: dent that card. We we sit down and we order food.
Speaker 1: I say, okay, we're gonna go play games. She said, well,
Speaker 1: I need a credit card if you're gonna walk around
Speaker 1: and I'll let you know when your food's ready. I said, okay.
Speaker 1: I gave the lady a credit cards. You know, oh wow,
Speaker 1: this credit cards heavy. I'm like, okay, I get it.
Speaker 1: A certain clientele doesn't normally come here. It's a metal
Speaker 1: credit card. Anyway, we're walking around playing games now. I
Speaker 1: keep my kid away from guns for the most part.
Speaker 1: I don't know. He doesn't play shooting games ever. But
Speaker 1: today I was like, ah, there's a Godzilla game. You
Speaker 1: know you're not shooting other people, there's just monsters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know VR headset. I'm like, put this on to
Speaker 1: be hysterical. He it blew his mind. He was just
Speaker 1: in a helicopter shooting Godzilla. Thought it was the greatest
Speaker 1: that you thought it was kind of scary, just loved it.
Speaker 1: My favorite game was one where the two of us
Speaker 1: just sit on this game and it's you don't do anything.
Speaker 1: It just shakes and moves and wind blows at you,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, it's just a ride. We played
Speaker 1: a lot of race car games, you know, where the
Speaker 1: whole where the whole thing moves. But my son's too
Speaker 1: short to reach the pedal, so I have to put
Speaker 1: my leg up on the gas pedal. That's fine, except
Speaker 1: for the whole thing is moving. So now I'm on
Speaker 1: one leg with my leg inside this game that's going
Speaker 1: up and down and back and forth. It's quite the
Speaker 1: core workout. I didn't enjoy that. Uh whatever. We played
Speaker 1: some games and then we order some food. The food
Speaker 1: is just awful. Oh man, you know. I had some nachos.
Speaker 1: They were I shouldn't say they were awful. It was fine.
Speaker 1: You know. I had a strawberry lemonade that was delightful.
Speaker 1: She's like, you're gonna have to stir it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I know how to drink. I don't know if David
Speaker 1: Buster is a sponsor to this show, Lord knows they should.
Speaker 1: The overlap is unbelievable because I was walking around there
Speaker 1: once people started filling in toward the end of our session.
Speaker 1: Is that what you call it? Or lunch? People said?
Speaker 1: A couple people said hi to me. And then you
Speaker 1: know what I did. I took my card that had
Speaker 1: three hundred points still on it, and I gave it
Speaker 1: to a minority family that was walking in, and I said, here,
Speaker 1: you guys, go, here's our card. We didn't use all
Speaker 1: the points. Feel free. They're like, well, you know, you
Speaker 1: can keep and come back. I go, I'm never fucking
Speaker 1: coming back. This was it. This was a one and done.
Speaker 1: So anyway, we had a great time. You're probably why
Speaker 1: did I even go to David Busters. Okay, I need
Speaker 1: to do a little recon. Okay, I'm not much of
Speaker 1: a gamer. I just wanted to be sharp for today's guest.
Speaker 1: Enjoy Pasha, my guest today, has voiced some of the
Speaker 1: most iconic video game villains of all time. If you
Speaker 1: were a basement dwelling in cell, you have probably DMed
Speaker 1: her something horrible. She is an actor that slips into
Speaker 1: something a little more uncomfortable, so gamers have something to
Speaker 1: do as they suck down Mountain Dew. Get ready to
Speaker 1: level up and welcome Maggie.
Speaker 2: That was perfect.
Speaker 1: No notes you think I I'm won and done.
Speaker 2: You were a one take wonder.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, wow, Maggie. Do you believe in ghosts for
Speaker 1: the plot? Yeah, that's pretty good. You moved a ton
Speaker 1: growing up as a kid. Yes, so did.
Speaker 2: I talk to me about that?
Speaker 1: Twelve schools by time? I was damn you beat me
Speaker 1: twelve by twelve. That's all. By twelve.
Speaker 2: That's nice.
Speaker 1: Stopped twelve though. Once they got to seventh grade Madison
Speaker 1: Middle School, Titusville, Florida, that's when they're like, we're done.
Speaker 1: By the way, if you look up Madison Middle School
Speaker 1: on the school rankings. I'm curious to know if it's
Speaker 1: the one to ten like Zillo has that look that
Speaker 1: up for me. I'm curious if it's over a four.
Speaker 2: I don't think I even remember what middle school I
Speaker 2: went to, like the name of it. Am I broken?
Speaker 2: I think I have a memory problem. This is what
Speaker 2: this conversation is teaching me.
Speaker 1: You don't have a good memory.
Speaker 2: I don't think I do.
Speaker 1: How often did you move?
Speaker 2: I think I moved? I think five somewhere around there.
Speaker 1: Why did you have to move?
Speaker 2: My mom was a collegiate professor, so we went where
Speaker 2: she could get a job.
Speaker 1: Is she still working?
Speaker 2: Heavens?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, no, she went where she could get a job.
Speaker 2: And then realize that academia is just as political and
Speaker 2: competitive as acting at times, and was like, can't get
Speaker 2: so left?
Speaker 1: As a parent? Was she like education is so important?
Speaker 2: Yes, But here's where I get into here, because tell me,
Speaker 2: if this happened to you, you move more than me.
Speaker 2: But I have definitive gaps in my knowledge of history
Speaker 2: and like key moments of life because the school that
Speaker 2: I left would have covered that topic the next year
Speaker 2: and the school that I moved to covered it the
Speaker 2: year before, So then I was just left there being like,
Speaker 2: what is the Holocaust? Oh shit, you miss I missed
Speaker 2: the Holocaust.
Speaker 1: That's a good one, I know. I mean it was
Speaker 1: I rolled off.
Speaker 2: Everyone's talking about this thing.
Speaker 1: I have to I do not think it was a
Speaker 1: good one, right, it was just correct?
Speaker 2: Geez man, No, that's a pretty big one. James Madison
Speaker 2: middle School A three out of ten?
Speaker 1: My middle school? Three out of ten? That's how bad
Speaker 1: it was? Well Florida, right, yes.
Speaker 2: So what's the average for Florida's great? Because you might
Speaker 2: be above average?
Speaker 1: Do you think so?
Speaker 2: No, but you could.
Speaker 1: When did you get bit by the acting bug?
Speaker 2: I think it was a long time coming. I think
Speaker 2: I was bit and then it took a couple of
Speaker 2: years of incubation before the disease started to manifest in
Speaker 2: my body. So I started acting in high school. I
Speaker 2: was just like for fun, just to an extracurricular All
Speaker 2: my friends did it. Who cares like fuck about?
Speaker 1: But yeah?
Speaker 2: And then in college that's when I think I started
Speaker 2: to realize that this was serious and it was fun. Also,
Speaker 2: like the work itself, working on the craft of acting
Speaker 2: was very fun and very interesting, and I never knew
Speaker 2: what I wanted to do. I was pretty apathetic about
Speaker 2: a lot of things, and I was just floating through life.
Speaker 2: And then I realized that acting allowed me to take
Speaker 2: all of the different interests that I had and not
Speaker 2: just pick one, but do them all within this one umbrella.
Speaker 2: Or did you go to college Muhlenberg College, Muhlenberg.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you live in the area.
Speaker 2: It's in Pennsylvania. You know where it is. You've heard of.
Speaker 1: It allanown Bethlehem, isn't it in that world? Yes? Well
Speaker 1: it's my first of all, I was told this, but
Speaker 1: my manager, she's from Wilkesbury, which is right there. Do
Speaker 1: you miss the Lehigh Valley?
Speaker 2: No? And my allergies don't said either.
Speaker 1: Did you have bad allergies there?
Speaker 2: Oh heavens yes.
Speaker 1: My allergies in Florida were off the charts.
Speaker 2: Really well, you just sneezed two times before we started.
Speaker 1: Sweater. I get it. Why I have bad allergies period.
Speaker 1: Dust is a good one for me.
Speaker 2: Just as mine dust mites.
Speaker 1: All Right, after school, you moved back to the DC
Speaker 1: area got involved in local community theater. How quickly did
Speaker 1: you realize you fucked up and needed to move to London.
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't move, so I moved back home after college.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that I wanted to do acting full time.
Speaker 2: I was kind of like actors are crazy. So then
Speaker 2: I went and got real jobs when I moved back home.
Speaker 1: What were your real jobs?
Speaker 2: Oh, I had a shlew one of the most fun.
Speaker 2: Probably I did aviation catering, and then I was promoted.
Speaker 2: So I was the person who went and met private
Speaker 2: jets on the tarmac at Dulles Airport in DC and
Speaker 2: would take their catering orders in person from the head
Speaker 2: flight attendant.
Speaker 1: Pete just always just gets as a bag of Chick
Speaker 1: fil A.
Speaker 2: Well that's because he's not a head flight attend cater.
Speaker 1: No, he didn't. He didn't get it. London Academy of
Speaker 1: Music and Dramatic Arts, that's the one you specialized in Shakespeare.
Speaker 1: Do you actually even like Shakespeare?
Speaker 2: I think yes. That was really convincing.
Speaker 1: Huh. I mean, I don't know. I panicked.
Speaker 2: I do like Shakespeare. But I think I chose to
Speaker 2: do a classical acting degree not because I'm like la Shakespeare,
Speaker 2: but because I was thinking, well, that's the hardest thing
Speaker 2: you could possibly do as an actor. So shouldn't I
Speaker 2: go train and do the hardest thing you could possibly do,
Speaker 2: and then everything else will be easy.
Speaker 1: It is the hardest thing. I have no idea I.
Speaker 2: Felt like it was at the time. It is quite
Speaker 2: hard because the language is so archaic and the worlds
Speaker 2: are heightened, and it's a lot of words. It's a
Speaker 2: lot of wording. So if you're not good at words,
Speaker 2: you're in trouble.
Speaker 1: It's not my world. I wouldn't have done it all
Speaker 1: right before we proceed I have to acknowledge for my listeners.
Speaker 1: I believe video games are stupid. Did you play video
Speaker 1: games as a child? No, I did like it as
Speaker 1: a child. I had a Nintendo.
Speaker 2: What did you play?
Speaker 1: Super Mario?
Speaker 2: Okay, Brothers we've heard of you know.
Speaker 1: I think I think I might have played that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I think the only reason I enjoyed it was because
Speaker 1: my parents finally got fed up and put a TV
Speaker 1: in our bedroom, my brother and I room, because they
Speaker 1: didn't want to hear that horrible music, so we went.
Speaker 1: But I never got into like, you know, now, there's
Speaker 1: like these you know, Pete, these old people that just
Speaker 1: still game all night long. My brother in law on
Speaker 1: a headset all night long, to shooting people a headset.
Speaker 2: He's serious. I was never one of those people. I
Speaker 2: didn't grow up playing games. I'm just in them now.
Speaker 2: But I was definitely not cool. So that's not to
Speaker 2: say that I'm not one of the people.
Speaker 1: Do you ever play any of the games that you're in?
Speaker 1: Have you ever? No?
Speaker 2: I don't even have a console. I don't own a console.
Speaker 2: There's no physical way for me to play this PlayStation.
Speaker 2: I know this well. Actually that's a lie. You can
Speaker 2: play it on a variety of different consoles depending on
Speaker 2: what you have Xbox.
Speaker 1: I think I have this one old Miss pac Man machine.
Speaker 1: Why is it Miss pac Man? Why isn't it missus?
Speaker 1: If she's taking his name, is.
Speaker 2: That the law of pac Man? Are they together?
Speaker 1: I have no idea. It's miss pac Man, right, I
Speaker 1: believe it's a mess. They're not married, but with him?
Speaker 1: Then why is she taking she saddle herself.
Speaker 2: Maybe she's a different pac Man, Maybe she's his sister.
Speaker 1: Why isn't it packed woman?
Speaker 2: The patriarchy, absolutely correct, it's the patriarchy.
Speaker 1: By the way, Why do I love Miss pac Man
Speaker 1: but hate pac Man? Pac Man is older. Maybe the
Speaker 1: graphics are just a notch better on Miss pac Man.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, all right, get into it. How did
Speaker 1: you land? H Resident Evil? Was the big the big
Speaker 1: breaking point, right, the big break It's.
Speaker 2: A little bit of the Hollywood dream story, which is
Speaker 2: obnoxious to say that happened to me.
Speaker 1: Did you move to LA before?
Speaker 2: Just before? Get this? Let me paint the scene. I
Speaker 2: just graduated from a prestigious stupid drama school, got my
Speaker 2: fancy degree, then did their showcase, didn't get a single
Speaker 2: bite from an agent. Sick, And then I decided to
Speaker 2: move to LA and was figuring it out, living with
Speaker 2: five roommates, whatever it is. And then I just self
Speaker 2: submitted myself on something like LA casting one of those things,
Speaker 2: and then got the audition. This was a couple months
Speaker 2: after I moved to LA. Even so you had no struggle,
Speaker 2: no struggle, no struggle.
Speaker 1: Got here, landed a big gig, but you didn't even
Speaker 1: know it was a big gig.
Speaker 2: I did not know it was a big gig. And
Speaker 2: this is very common with video games even today, being
Speaker 2: firmly entrenched in the industry. Everything has a code name,
Speaker 2: everything's under NDA, so they don't want to give away
Speaker 2: any information. Every single thing about my audition process for
Speaker 2: Resident Evil was fake, fake character name, fake sides that
Speaker 2: I auditioned with.
Speaker 1: But you're such you're not a gamer. If you were
Speaker 1: a true gamer, do you think you could have broke
Speaker 1: those codes and figured out what it was, because I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't even think, like even the dialogue itself, like
Speaker 1: a real gamer be like, I know what this is.
Speaker 2: For, but all the dialogue was different. One of that
Speaker 2: dialogue was actual in game dialogue that it.
Speaker 1: Wasn't parallel to the character that you're playing.
Speaker 2: It was parallel. But she's a new character, she's a
Speaker 2: new ip. Moral of the story is I was a dumbass.
Speaker 2: I went in blind. I was like, oh cool this gig,
Speaker 2: and then got to the table read and wait.
Speaker 1: Wait, how many times did you have audition? Just a
Speaker 1: single twice? Okay?
Speaker 2: I had a callback and in the callback we did
Speaker 2: lots of improvy movement based stuff.
Speaker 1: Where they had to people were in there watching you
Speaker 1: during your callback. I don't remember one No.
Speaker 2: Four eighteen and maybe someone zoom mm hmm. Okay, definitely
Speaker 2: the cinematics director.
Speaker 1: What year is this?
Speaker 2: This is the year of our Lord twenty nineteen, pre shutdown,
Speaker 2: pre shutdown, I know. So we were working on this
Speaker 2: throughout the pandemic.
Speaker 1: Oh, you having to get like call that dumb COVID
Speaker 1: testing constantly.
Speaker 2: Yes, Ish, I was mostly doing ADR at that point,
Speaker 2: so I was just going into the booth.
Speaker 1: They released a trailer for your game.
Speaker 2: Well, Ethan Winters, there you are. The game's not even
Speaker 2: finished yet, game's not even finished.
Speaker 1: They release a trailer and just like that, your character
Speaker 1: becomes the it thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which was crazy. Also because I'm still under NDA,
Speaker 2: so I can't tell anybody that it's me and my
Speaker 2: character has gone viral on the internet.
Speaker 1: You really can't. Are they really gonna come after you? Haven't?
Speaker 1: We learned with like me too, that NDA's are all
Speaker 1: bullshit and you can break them.
Speaker 2: Well, keep in mind, this was my first scared. I
Speaker 2: was scared. Yeah, and they gave us the talk when
Speaker 2: we first showed up for the table read. They gave
Speaker 2: us the time. They say things that are hard, not
Speaker 2: fear of God. Yeah, so I was like, I'll never
Speaker 2: work again.
Speaker 1: I tell people immediately when people tell me, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something and you got to keep I
Speaker 1: just say stop whenever this comes up, it's coming out.
Speaker 2: Note to self, don't tell you secrets.
Speaker 1: I mean, why are you telling me secrets, Maggie.
Speaker 2: Well, I haven't yet and now I never.
Speaker 1: Will because you don't know this world at all. Are
Speaker 1: you just completely confused?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Or did you think, oh, this is how Hollywood works.
Speaker 1: I landed a gig, I'm a video game character, and
Speaker 1: now I'm popular.
Speaker 2: Well, let's put this in perspective. Being famous for video
Speaker 2: games is not like being a broad pit. I'm not
Speaker 2: actually that famous. You either really care or you really
Speaker 2: don't care.
Speaker 1: Well, that's how I used to feel about like the
Speaker 1: real world as growing up. These kids were so I
Speaker 1: felt bad for him because they were so famous immediately,
Speaker 1: but yet they had no money. That's what it was,
Speaker 1: and that's a bad thing because you still have to
Speaker 1: You don't get the protection the privacy that you're afforded
Speaker 1: with money, and now you're.
Speaker 2: Just having to be a money You're just a vulnerable
Speaker 2: And you had some let's.
Speaker 1: Be fair, some probably not. I don't know. I want
Speaker 1: to say. The people that were attracted or know this
Speaker 1: world or stock in you could be some real creepers.
Speaker 2: Yes, I definitely had a lot of anxiety before the
Speaker 2: game came out. I did have a panic attack or
Speaker 2: two watching her go viral and still not being able
Speaker 2: to say any thing. You build up a lot of anticipation,
Speaker 2: and I think that's what made me more nervous, because
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure how fans are going to react to me.
Speaker 2: If that was going to be put onto me, then
Speaker 2: all of the fetishization of the character, which you know,
Speaker 2: she's gorgeous, absolutely go off. I think it helps too
Speaker 2: with video games, at least in this one. She doesn't
Speaker 2: look like me, so I have a degree of separation
Speaker 2: where I can be like, hell, yeah, she's a baddie,
Speaker 2: like say what you want.
Speaker 1: Like you. But what her characteristic or physical character is
Speaker 1: that she's extremely tall. Yeah, and you're tall. I'm tall,
Speaker 1: And did they know that? Of course they did. Is
Speaker 1: this one of these new Hollywood things where it's like, well,
Speaker 1: if we're going to have a talker, we.
Speaker 2: Have to do exactly the thing that we're looking for.
Speaker 1: That's acting required.
Speaker 2: Well videogames, yeah I'm tall, Well, you act like an asshole,
Speaker 2: And that's what it is, looking down at all the
Speaker 2: little people.
Speaker 1: You know, my favorite tall thing to do is to
Speaker 1: act like like everything is I got on the bump
Speaker 1: of my head I have to lean into.
Speaker 2: But that's real, it's not an act. Did you enjoy
Speaker 2: being tall when you were younger?
Speaker 1: People always say that I'm lying about this, but like
Speaker 1: I graduated high school and from like eighteen to twenty two,
Speaker 1: I kind of shot up. Is that normal? No? But
Speaker 1: that is when I shot up. I wasn't.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that's I wasn't.
Speaker 1: Tall in high school. Like I was like a little
Speaker 1: bean pole. I lived in Florida, and I was embarrassed
Speaker 1: to wear shorts because my chicken leg. My legs were
Speaker 1: so bad, little chicken leg. And to this day, Pierre,
Speaker 1: still my friend, still calls me chicken legs to insult me.
Speaker 1: But he's French, so it's like I let him get
Speaker 1: away with it because he doesn't have a better sense
Speaker 1: of humor. Yeah, but it still stings.
Speaker 2: I was tall in high school, but I have a memory.
Speaker 1: Shot up right away?
Speaker 2: Girls shoot up quicker, but I know it was high school.
Speaker 2: It was freshman year of high school, ninth grade because
Speaker 2: eighth grade I moved and my best friend where I
Speaker 2: was before was taller than me. I moved away. I
Speaker 2: came back to visit her a year later. I was
Speaker 2: taller than her.
Speaker 1: How aggressive was the high school volleyball coach? Did jump?
Speaker 2: I also, okay, I had foot issues.
Speaker 1: You're turning me on.
Speaker 2: Hey, I had a lot of foot issues and I
Speaker 2: went through a whole thing, and I couldn't play sports.
Speaker 2: I think that's how I got into theater anyway. But
Speaker 2: I had a boot, got lots of extrays. They thought
Speaker 2: maybe I have an extra bone in my foot. I'm
Speaker 2: going to have to get surgery years later. I just
Speaker 2: have flat feet. Oh. I also went to the emergency
Speaker 2: room one time for stomach pain, and then it was
Speaker 2: just gas, we'll see you.
Speaker 1: Just a little bit of an overreactor there.
Speaker 2: No, well, the first time it was my parents overreacting.
Speaker 1: Was it me? What all goes into doing a video?
Speaker 1: It's not just voice, It's.
Speaker 2: Not just voice. Well, it can not just be voice.
Speaker 2: So every time I work on a game, it's a
Speaker 2: different story depending on what tech they're using.
Speaker 1: You sometimes physically have to act.
Speaker 2: I do sometimes physically have to act?
Speaker 1: Do you have to wear the dumb velcrow ball?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Is it? Are they velcrow?
Speaker 2: I don't even know it's like a Spandex velk pro suit,
Speaker 2: and then they put sensors all over your body. When
Speaker 2: you're doing what's called performance capture, which is what I
Speaker 2: did for Lated Demetreskan Resonable Village. We're in a big,
Speaker 2: wide open space that has cameras all around us to
Speaker 2: capture all of our physical data we have. We're also
Speaker 2: doing facial capture, which is not always the case. So
Speaker 2: I have a big, heavy helmet with a camera that
Speaker 2: sits directly in front of my face, and then you know,
Speaker 2: if I'm doing a scene with you, I can't make
Speaker 2: eye contact with you because there's a camera right in
Speaker 2: my face.
Speaker 1: Do you interact with other actors?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can if you're doing a scene altogether.
Speaker 1: Tout gene and stuff like that, not so much.
Speaker 2: Touching because that could interfere with the data collection.
Speaker 1: Is there any sexy scenes in any of these games?
Speaker 1: There can be, yes, So like you are like doing
Speaker 1: all of that type of stuff too.
Speaker 2: I don't know because I've not done them, but I've
Speaker 2: seen some cut scenes of other people.
Speaker 1: You're a sex scene in a game? Now, I don't
Speaker 1: know what games have sex scenes, but I'm just guessing.
Speaker 1: Grand theft auto has to have some gotta have something,
Speaker 1: don't they. I don't know, you nerds play that stuff?
Speaker 1: Yes for sure, Yeah for sure, Sure, Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to hear. How many days or
Speaker 1: weeks or months did you actually work for Let's just
Speaker 1: start with Resident Evil.
Speaker 2: I did performance capture for Resident Evil, which is when
Speaker 2: we're in that volume space and I'm doing the full
Speaker 2: body mechanics, face blah blah blah that I think I
Speaker 2: was there for a week because we were just doing
Speaker 2: the cut scenes in the game, which is essentially the
Speaker 2: scenes in a video game that play like a movie.
Speaker 2: So I worked on that for about a week and
Speaker 2: then we were going in for adr sessions every other
Speaker 2: month for two or three years. That's about how long
Speaker 2: we worked on the game. So it was a nice,
Speaker 2: steady paycheck.
Speaker 1: Can this be something that somebody specializes in, like, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm only interested in being a video game actor? Yes?
Speaker 1: Are there people that do that?
Speaker 2: Yes? There are, because you can do no cap in games.
Speaker 2: So the umbrella is all performance capture is motion capture,
Speaker 2: but not all motion capture is performance capture. There are
Speaker 2: people who can go into games and I've done this
Speaker 2: before as well, where the audio has already been recorded.
Speaker 2: So I'm essentially doing karaoke to an existing audio track,
Speaker 2: and I'm doing the mechanics of the character saying hey
Speaker 2: how are you, and it's my body going hey how
Speaker 2: are you? So I'm doing the physical movements to a
Speaker 2: line that already exists, an actor who's already done their job.
Speaker 2: It's so weird. So every time you step into video games,
Speaker 2: you're doing something different. You can just do vo, you
Speaker 2: could just do motion capture, just capturing your body.
Speaker 1: How long does this take? Is there somebody just a
Speaker 1: director depends going yes, there canvas? Or do you know
Speaker 1: what the list is going in?
Speaker 2: Actors know nothing. We're given the least amount of information.
Speaker 2: But it's just like going on to set for a movie.
Speaker 2: Quite honestly, there's really no difference in terms of the acting.
Speaker 2: What's unique about it is it's like the marriage between
Speaker 2: theater and on camera because you are acting in the
Speaker 2: round and so you're acting to fill an entire space,
Speaker 2: but you're also acting for your close up. You have
Speaker 2: a wide and you have a closeup happening simultaneously, and
Speaker 2: you have to act for both.
Speaker 1: So actually the actor if it's a video game and
Speaker 1: I'm controlling you, technically i'm the actor then, or I'm
Speaker 1: a director. Maybe I'm a director in that scenario.
Speaker 2: That is gets into one of the critical points about
Speaker 2: video games. We don't make residuals. That's why the pay
Speaker 2: is hearing. But we don't make residuals, which is because
Speaker 2: who is the performance? Who's the performer? I'm doing my motions.
Speaker 2: But if I pick up this coffee mug with my
Speaker 2: right hand and then they realize and post, shit, she's
Speaker 2: got to pick it up with her left. They can
Speaker 2: change that in post. The animators can change that.
Speaker 1: For a game like Balder'sgate with over seventeen thousand possible endings,
Speaker 1: are you recording all of those?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You serious? The ending I got was destroying the nether brain.
Speaker 1: Pretty satisfying, though.
Speaker 2: How did you get that ending? You don't play games.
Speaker 1: I just read this. Hey, do you actually think I
Speaker 1: have any idea? What the fuck that meant?
Speaker 2: No? What do you think it is? Please tell me
Speaker 2: what you think Balder's Gate is about.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm if I were to guess it's monsters, it's
Speaker 1: Apocalypta and they're shooting. I don't know is it What
Speaker 1: is it about?
Speaker 2: No, it's ungeons and dragons.
Speaker 1: It's nerdy shit, same thing, all right, Zombies, dungeons and dragons.
Speaker 1: It's all the same to me. You're so true. Okay, No,
Speaker 1: you didn't. You didn't record seventeen thousand.
Speaker 2: Different This is how long the game is. There are acts.
Speaker 2: My character comes in at the end of act two,
Speaker 2: but predominantly is in Act three. And the what is
Speaker 2: it called? The map that the developers had to keep
Speaker 2: track of all of the different threads and branches of
Speaker 2: the narrative line made me want to slit my throat.
Speaker 1: I read a Choose your Own Adventure book with my
Speaker 1: son and I just get furious because at the end
Speaker 1: of everyone that he chooses, he doesn't like the ending
Speaker 1: of it, and he's like crying, and I wanted to win.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Then I find out, after doing fifty versions
Speaker 1: of it, there was no winner, right.
Speaker 2: It's about the journey.
Speaker 1: Ough, that's the lasson. I can't. I can't teach him
Speaker 1: those things. I'm not smart enough. Is there an equivalent
Speaker 1: of the oscars for the video game performers?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: You won? Yes?
Speaker 2: That feels weird to just be like, yeah, I won. Yeah, awards,
Speaker 2: you get dressed up, you do.
Speaker 1: Do you dress like the character of the game or
Speaker 1: do you stress nice?
Speaker 2: No, I'm an actor.
Speaker 1: Do you dress nice?
Speaker 2: Character? I dress nice?
Speaker 1: How many people were in your category? And what was
Speaker 1: your category?
Speaker 2: The category was best Performance in a video Game.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. That's it.
Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, And then there's a slew of other
Speaker 2: video game awards that I won as well. And then
Speaker 2: there's also BAFTAs. The Baftis have a games Should there.
Speaker 1: Be one in in like just the traditional probably Emmys?
Speaker 1: Why it was? Is it more of a movie it
Speaker 1: would gaming? I mean, I I feel like most people
Speaker 1: played on their television. That's why I said Emmy's.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe we can pull the community at large.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't have you know, the worst thing in the
Speaker 1: world is is people that enjoy watching videos of people
Speaker 1: stream win games.
Speaker 2: I don't think that it's huge. I know that's how
Speaker 2: I watch games.
Speaker 1: You actually just watch somebody play, watch.
Speaker 2: Somebody play, or you can go on and be like
Speaker 2: Resident Evil cut scenes all and then you watch the
Speaker 2: game like it's a movie.
Speaker 1: So you don't make a lot of money.
Speaker 2: No, that's a big misconception too. I think you love.
Speaker 1: Good money, but you don't make you don't make oh
Speaker 1: my goodness money, or you don't even make good money.
Speaker 1: It's debatable.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's debatable. Good is debatable.
Speaker 1: But because people that watch this, this is where they go,
Speaker 1: you're so out of touch. They think I'm so out
Speaker 1: of touch because you know, I won't take a shit
Speaker 1: front your fifty grand.
Speaker 2: I would take a shit for fifty grand if.
Speaker 1: I had to go maybe, okay, all right, but I'm
Speaker 1: not going to do it on command. That seems I
Speaker 1: don't know if.
Speaker 2: I can pop.
Speaker 1: Yes, I shit, I have, I have some stomach.
Speaker 2: You're pooby boy.
Speaker 1: It's not good.
Speaker 2: I'm not a poopy girl. I'm a constipated, girly lucky you.
Speaker 2: I know right, I'm just bloated and disgusting in here.
Speaker 2: It's all festering inside me and it won't come out.
Speaker 1: Can you eat right before you perform? Yes? Because I
Speaker 1: don't know that.
Speaker 2: That's not a poopy girl.
Speaker 1: I get it. No, I'm just saying it's like, if
Speaker 1: you're hungry, you can have something to eat me. If
Speaker 1: I have a show or something, I have to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm for this interview. I don't eat breakfast, Okay.
Speaker 2: I had Taco Bell in the car.
Speaker 1: Just to that's delightful, boy me, Tacobo. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're a sponsor, but you can be. Hey. I
Speaker 1: was a spokesperson to talk about many years ago.
Speaker 2: Tell me more.
Speaker 1: It was my first gig. What in la?
Speaker 2: Okay, I moved on choiceing a Taco Bell commercial? Was
Speaker 2: your first job?
Speaker 1: No, I was a spokesperson for I've replaced the Chiuahua,
Speaker 1: Yo Kioto Taco Bell. I was the next spokespan.
Speaker 2: So everyone hates you because we all missed the Chiuahua.
Speaker 1: In fairness, they don't even hate me. They don't even
Speaker 1: know that either. I came and went and no one knows.
Speaker 1: I shot six commercials. Two of them didn't even air anyway.
Speaker 1: I got free Taco Bell for life. Now I'm life
Speaker 1: here in theory. I put it in my car, in
Speaker 1: the contract. I put it in my contract that I
Speaker 1: got free Taco Bell for life, because I thought they
Speaker 1: were going to give me some gold card that I
Speaker 1: could shine at the drive through. Oh the red carpet
Speaker 1: right now, Okay, that didn't exist. What did exist was
Speaker 1: border Bucks. So they just did the math of if
Speaker 1: I ate Taco Bell every day for a year, I
Speaker 1: would need x amount of dollars a year. So every
Speaker 1: year I would get a box like ten thousand border
Speaker 1: Bucks in ones.
Speaker 2: In ones, yes, like a stripper.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, well they're ones, they're border Bucks, magnete.
Speaker 2: I think I don't know what border Bucks. Doesn't matter
Speaker 2: is what I'm writing. This is your story, and I'm
Speaker 2: just living in it to keep going.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just going to just finish it because I
Speaker 1: started it. Anyway, after a few years, they just stopped
Speaker 1: sending them. I didn't request him anymore. I didn't want to.
Speaker 1: But at the time I was so poor in La
Speaker 1: that I was using the border Bucks to buy things
Speaker 1: at Taco Bell wait for it, and I knew what
Speaker 1: to buid, like make it be twoh one. Then I
Speaker 1: would give them three border bucks and they would give
Speaker 1: me ninety nine cents in real currency back. And so
Speaker 1: that's how I started making a little extra change for
Speaker 1: parking meters, et cetera.
Speaker 2: That's very smart.
Speaker 1: That's where I was at.
Speaker 2: I admire your ingenuity, man, in the face of adversity.
Speaker 1: Those were the days, ah the struggle was fun. Residuals
Speaker 1: are the best part about show business. Yeah, you do
Speaker 1: a job, and then if the job is successful and
Speaker 1: it lives in other worlds forever, you're just constantly getting
Speaker 1: repaid for something you did a long time ago. Now,
Speaker 1: people in the quote real world think that's nonsense, because
Speaker 1: I will you should only get paid for when you work.
Speaker 1: But the reality is as an actor that thousands of
Speaker 1: times you work, you never get paid just for all
Speaker 1: the failure, the rejection, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And the studios continue to get paid off of your
Speaker 2: one performance. They're still making money off of your one
Speaker 2: scene or whatever. So why shouldn't you.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you don't preach the choir. I want residuals.
Speaker 1: You know, like when Netflix and those people, those streaming
Speaker 1: services came out, they knocked it off. They said no
Speaker 1: residual Yeah, they ruined it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's not my thing. I want to get
Speaker 2: paid forever exactly. I'm over the starving actor trope. We
Speaker 2: need to get rid of it. I'm not interested how
Speaker 2: soon until AI focs all of you very soon. That's
Speaker 2: why we're on strike.
Speaker 1: Is there a strike right now? I didn't even know
Speaker 1: there's another story is.
Speaker 2: Not many people do. But we are on strike for
Speaker 2: video games. We're currently renegotiating our contract and fighting for
Speaker 2: more legal protections, especially in regards to AI.
Speaker 1: And that's just to block them from using AI.
Speaker 2: I mean, AI is here. AI is already a tool.
Speaker 2: AI is a valuable tool, and if you continue to
Speaker 2: use it as just an accessory, then I think, hell,
Speaker 2: yeah do it. Games have been using al already for
Speaker 2: years and years. It's just about how can we protect
Speaker 2: keeping humans and games, keeping actors in games so that
Speaker 2: we can continue to create the best games that week
Speaker 2: can possibly create.
Speaker 1: Well, once they figure this out the pay, then Pete,
Speaker 1: I want to be in a video game, but I
Speaker 1: don't want to do it until they figure out the pay. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I'm not taking a pay cut for these monsters. They
Speaker 1: make so much money.
Speaker 2: Video games are the most lucrative industry. Uh. I think
Speaker 2: it's TV, movies and music combined. Video games makes more
Speaker 2: money than all of them.
Speaker 1: But what about porn? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't have that data.
Speaker 1: Porn, porns and in front, there's no there's no way.
Speaker 1: It just seems like it always is like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know that we forgot about that the game itself made. Okay,
Speaker 1: they don't pay you a ton, but you go to
Speaker 1: these comic cons, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So voice actors and video game actors we use
Speaker 2: comic cons to essentially create our own residual structure after
Speaker 2: the game. If you're lucky enough to have a character
Speaker 2: or a game that is popular enough to take you
Speaker 2: to cons, that's your resigion.
Speaker 1: And they shop you from profiting off of that.
Speaker 2: Where it's a legally great area. So what we say
Speaker 2: is I'm selling my autograph. That's it. They don't own
Speaker 2: my autograph.
Speaker 1: That's about me, like the character.
Speaker 2: No, that'd be stupid.
Speaker 1: You wear it like tall shoes.
Speaker 2: I'm tall enough, I get it. But then do you
Speaker 2: get this or is it just because I'm a tall
Speaker 2: woman that people are like mm hmm, you'd be taller.
Speaker 1: No, everyone because they have met one or two people
Speaker 1: that's been on television before and they're all dwarves are
Speaker 1: When they see me, they go, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: think you were a lot tall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a child at a TJ Max go
Speaker 2: whoa and then run away?
Speaker 1: So that what's a TJ Max?
Speaker 2: Like, I'm sorry, are you too big time?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: You don't know what a TJ Max is. You don't
Speaker 2: do your own shopping?
Speaker 1: No, I definitely don't do my own shop.
Speaker 2: Who got this sweater for you?
Speaker 1: Carrie? Okay, she's wonderful and she only charges me one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty an hour. Only listen. I'm proudly Florida trash.
Speaker 1: Struggled for ten years, started doing well for ten years.
Speaker 1: In the last ten years, things have been good. I'm
Speaker 1: happy to be like, yeah, yeah, I don't remember that nonsense.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, What is the point of working so hard to
Speaker 2: make this money if then you don't capitalize on having money?
Speaker 1: Do you think this office space is close to their houses?
Speaker 1: If somebody were to get into this and they were
Speaker 1: to land a decent role, maybe not the starring role
Speaker 1: of a video game, what can they expect to be paid.
Speaker 2: Depends on what contract the game is under. It depends
Speaker 2: on the size of the role. Even projects where I
Speaker 2: have a pretty large role, maybe I can. If it's
Speaker 2: just voiceover, I can probably get all of their voiceover
Speaker 2: lines done in maybe a session or two, which means
Speaker 2: you're just getting your day rate. So the most you're
Speaker 2: making if you just do one session. I forget what
Speaker 2: the now, SAD day rate is scale day rate for
Speaker 2: video games. I think it's something like a thousand bucks,
Speaker 2: So you're just making a thousand bucks if you book
Speaker 2: one thousand Bok's a day thousand bucks for one session.
Speaker 2: But oftentimes they only need you for one session, so
Speaker 2: you're making a thousand bucks period.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: I did got of war. I only needed one session
Speaker 2: to do my stuff. That's all I made.
Speaker 1: You can't do You got to drag it out.
Speaker 2: You're right, I'll go, I'll be worse.
Speaker 1: Do you try to do that sometimes?
Speaker 2: No, because you've got to be professional. Then they don't
Speaker 2: want you back.
Speaker 1: Could you be on cameo and just do audio messages
Speaker 1: in character and make a fortune. Yes, and I am
Speaker 1: Boom that's it. Boom. Cameo is great if you are
Speaker 1: you on cameo?
Speaker 2: No? No, Why do I feel like I'm being judge
Speaker 2: right now for being on k not at all?
Speaker 1: Oh? Now, I asked to be on Cameo and they
Speaker 1: would have let you. Well, here's the thing. I wanted
Speaker 1: it to be a million dollars my rate, and my
Speaker 1: joke was that eventually one person would do it, and
Speaker 1: that's all I want. You only need one that was
Speaker 1: my I was like, yes, put me on for one
Speaker 1: million dollars. They wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2: But it's a racket, though. Can we break down prices
Speaker 2: because you know, you got to price yourself pretty high
Speaker 2: because cameo takes thirty percent. If they purchase a cameo
Speaker 2: off of device that is either an Apple or an Android,
Speaker 2: then Google or an Apple take thirty percent. I'm walking
Speaker 2: away with less than fifty.
Speaker 1: But you're making fifty percent about don't.
Speaker 2: Give me that you're gonna be like when you're still
Speaker 2: making I don't know you're still making?
Speaker 1: What about Jack and the right up a little bit
Speaker 1: just to nudget.
Speaker 2: Well, you don't want to price people out. It's a
Speaker 2: delicate balance.
Speaker 1: Are you doing your cameos daily? Are you? Is it?
Speaker 2: No? Not daily? It's not like a frequent I'm not
Speaker 2: making millions off a cameo. It's like once every now
Speaker 2: and again, I'll do it. And then I'm like, I
Speaker 2: have to put on makeup, kill me?
Speaker 1: Why not do them dirty?
Speaker 2: Well now I do. I'm lazy. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Why people get real close.
Speaker 2: And just there is my nostril.
Speaker 1: Weirdest request you've gotten from a fan.
Speaker 2: There are definitely some you know, like some requests that
Speaker 2: should have been on an OnlyFans account where I'm like, great,
Speaker 2: that's not what we're doing here, but fully support you
Speaker 2: doing that somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Okay, could you clean up on only fans?
Speaker 2: I could?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but will I No, No, that's fine. We were
Speaker 1: going to create an only fans account for this show
Speaker 1: for your chicken legs. No, well.
Speaker 2: Close, I think you could clean up.
Speaker 1: My idea for us doing it only fans was just like,
Speaker 1: like if at the end of our interview, I just
Speaker 1: asked one or two questions with my shirt off, and
Speaker 1: then we save that and that's exclusive content for the
Speaker 1: only fans. Okay, what's this obsession with people wanting you
Speaker 1: to step on them? And have you ever done it?
Speaker 2: These are the dark corners of the interwebs. And this
Speaker 2: is what Lady d went viral for. She's she's a looker.
Speaker 2: People like her. They like her so much that they
Speaker 2: want her to step on them.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm thinking about. I've been obsessed with
Speaker 1: this the p Diddy trial. Yeah, oh are you No? Oh,
Speaker 1: it's just so it's just horrible. But I'm just so
Speaker 1: blessed and I've never used the word blessed.
Speaker 2: It felt weird coming out of your mouth.
Speaker 1: It's not natural. But the one thing that I love
Speaker 1: is that I'm just so boring when it comes to
Speaker 1: what physically I would be into. Tend to have the
Speaker 1: kinks that some of these people have, and I'm not
Speaker 1: kink shaming, but thank god I don't have it.
Speaker 2: You're not going to get in trouble.
Speaker 1: Oh you know what, I'm into people in my house
Speaker 1: having sex for six days. What you couldn't come up
Speaker 1: with something that I would hate more?
Speaker 2: I agree with you. Just get out of my house.
Speaker 1: This is bonkers. Anyway. I hope he, you know, gets
Speaker 1: to tell his truth. Okay, another thing I've never said,
Speaker 1: have you ever witnessed a dick flattening?
Speaker 2: Have I witnessed it?
Speaker 1: Is that the question? They're laughing because they know I
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm talking about. I know what dick
Speaker 1: flattening is. That that's what her character in Resident Evil.
Speaker 2: Uh, she goes around flattening dicks. That's what she does.
Speaker 1: That is that what she is? Yes, really, these games
Speaker 1: are so stupid. That's so dumb. That's so kids are
Speaker 1: playing that. Yes, I just hope my kids don't get
Speaker 1: into video games because it's.
Speaker 2: Playing or being playing. And they don't play video games.
Speaker 1: Not yet. They're young. I don't. I don't want to learn.
Speaker 1: It's hard enough to screen television. Now I'm gonna screen games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are some really cute games out there. They
Speaker 2: don't have to be like crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't want. I don't want them to learn the
Speaker 1: buttons then I have to have.
Speaker 2: The buttons are really hard, right, I don't want to
Speaker 2: run into walls. I can't figure it out. People tell me, oh,
Speaker 2: is this button?
Speaker 1: I don't remember buttons all over the edge.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't get buttons. Everybody that comes on the show
Speaker 1: gets a gift for me. It's just like good. No,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's good and you know, And I've found out
Speaker 1: people have been keeping track of whose gifts like are
Speaker 1: probably the most valuable, which has made me laugh because
Speaker 1: some gifts are over yours are not valuable. A check. No,
Speaker 1: I know that you're not a real gamer, but I
Speaker 1: actually like playing games.
Speaker 2: Really because you have not given that indication throughout the games.
Speaker 1: Card games, Oh my god, that's what I like playing
Speaker 1: all right, but not done with card Dragonfish, Monopoly deal
Speaker 1: if you play Monopoly, Deal gig. It's so fun. It's
Speaker 1: such a good game.
Speaker 2: Did you bring that? Is that my gift? Are we
Speaker 2: playing cards? It's a card game?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and deal and only takes about ten to fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes for a game, so unlike Monopoly.
Speaker 2: Excellent.
Speaker 1: So here's what I got you. Okay, I got you.
Speaker 1: This is a beautiful backgammon table. I love backcammon?
Speaker 2: Is it new? Did you buy this?
Speaker 1: Yes? It hasn't been opened. It hasn't been open. No.
Speaker 2: No, it's like you didn't just find that. You didn't
Speaker 2: walk around your house and know something without Christie, my manager,
Speaker 2: bought this one from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Right, I have a much nicer one.
Speaker 2: Oh okay.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm like, well, what am I gonna do?
Speaker 1: I don't need two backam gifting. That's all it's happening, basically. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So here's a nice backgammon table.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, how did you know? I'm secretly eighty
Speaker 2: years old?
Speaker 1: I old this game? What do you mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I know you did. First of all, anytime I see
Speaker 1: an adult party game, I'm like, I'm fucking out. I
Speaker 1: don't want my games to be dirty. And I guess
Speaker 1: when I adult, I'm like, oh, I bet you there's
Speaker 1: some stuff in there. I don't care whatever that that's
Speaker 1: your game. Then I got you. What is this? This
Speaker 1: is Quarto. I love this game.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about this game.
Speaker 1: I'm gonnahow, I'm gonna play. I'll play you with it
Speaker 1: right now. Here, take your table off. My table.
Speaker 2: Was about this.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's just it's heavy.
Speaker 2: No, and then there's immediate laughter from the back, so
Speaker 2: that's a yes.
Speaker 1: Uh fine, okay, so Quarto, here's how you play this game.
Speaker 2: Are we playing this right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll play. I'll play you one. Okay. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Each piece has four characteristics. Okay, okay. This one's characteristic
Speaker 1: is tall, Okay, it's light colored wood compared to this
Speaker 1: one that's dark colored. It's square compared to this one
Speaker 1: that is as as circular, and this one is solid
Speaker 1: compared to this one that is hollow.
Speaker 2: Heard.
Speaker 1: So the game is simple. So you just have to
Speaker 1: get four in a row of the same characteristics. Okay.
Speaker 1: What makes fun? Yes, thank you. But what's fun is
Speaker 1: you hand your opponent their piece. So here we go.
Speaker 1: We're going to play around and I just give you
Speaker 1: a piece. You don't have to put much thought into
Speaker 1: it at the beginning. But once we get going, go ahead,
Speaker 1: you'll hand me a piece. Oh, I should learn how
Speaker 1: to play god.
Speaker 2: You just said the rules. So if I put this here,
Speaker 2: then the characteristic is that it's tall and square and
Speaker 2: solid and solid. I see, I'm not as nice as you.
Speaker 1: That's fine.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, it is round though, okay.
Speaker 1: And that was fun quarto?
Speaker 2: Oh shit, short, I didn't see that it had the
Speaker 2: hollow two.
Speaker 1: Those two's too. I didn't hollow. By the way, if
Speaker 1: I don't see that and I didn't call quarto, then
Speaker 1: you could on your turn you could say quarto. But
Speaker 1: I already won. Like to lose. To lose in six
Speaker 1: plays is almost impossible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a happy day. What a lucky girl? Am I?
Speaker 1: Do you get recognized in public and do fans recognize
Speaker 1: your voice and then get all horned up?
Speaker 2: Well I can't speak for how horned up they get.
Speaker 2: That's a personal thing, sure, but yes, and yes I've
Speaker 2: been recognized. I think I've had one person that was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I heard you. I heard you talking
Speaker 2: and I thought it sounded like you. And then some woman,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, do women play video games?
Speaker 1: Heck? Yes, my mind is blown.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the twenty four century. Why are they women
Speaker 2: play video games?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: Hey, don't they know that they slash always?
Speaker 1: They've always played.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's just the patriarchy erase them from history. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's why do they play the games? Why?
Speaker 1: I can't believe that because I thought they were like
Speaker 1: so much smarter than us.
Speaker 2: Well we are.
Speaker 1: Is the goal to play Princess Peach someday?
Speaker 2: No, my goal is to play the weirdest creatures ever.
Speaker 2: I'd like to be a slimy toad next. I don't
Speaker 2: know what that character is. I want to be the
Speaker 2: weirdest things.
Speaker 1: That would be Frogger, I believe. Ah, great game, good
Speaker 1: that I remember. Yep, Cross the road, then cross the river?
Speaker 2: Love it?
Speaker 1: Do you have your own booth at your house? Now?
Speaker 1: I do?
Speaker 2: Now it's just my closet.
Speaker 1: Whatever. It's still cool to go into your closet, I mean,
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 2: Because as you said it, it didn't sound cool.
Speaker 1: It didn't sound yet. Yeah, I don't know how nice
Speaker 1: your closet is.
Speaker 2: What if it's beautiful, it's a nice closet, but doesn't
Speaker 2: make it cool.
Speaker 1: When I was a young comedian, Anthony Clark, he was
Speaker 1: a very successful. His advice to me when I was
Speaker 1: like a young community goes, hey man, he goes, you
Speaker 1: just got to get famous and then everything is real
Speaker 1: easy and I'm gonna I'm not gonna lie to you. No.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I really did. He was onto something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta figure that out. It's a hard nut to crack.
Speaker 2: But but I didn't do this to be famous. I
Speaker 2: never wanted to be famous, did you.
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Being famous is gross?
Speaker 1: No. No. My My only goal was like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to have like a job that doesn't make me want
Speaker 1: to vomit at night when I'm going to bed, knowing
Speaker 1: what I have to wake up and do the next day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was it. That was the only goal. Maggie, thank
Speaker 1: you for being on the show.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, thank you for having me, Pasha,
Speaker 2: I don't want to.
Speaker 1: Thank Maggie for being on the show. And I can't
Speaker 1: wait to get home to dive right into Resident Evil
Speaker 1: eight or six or whatever one she's on. Do we
Speaker 1: have time for a Dear Toss show? That's a segment, Carl,
Speaker 1: as you may recall, where one of our subscribers seeks
Speaker 1: my advice. What do you got for me? Eddie?
Speaker 3: All right, Dear Tasha, you mentioned multiple times in the
Speaker 3: pod that you play Monopoly Deal, so I need you
Speaker 3: to have final ruling on an issue that comes up
Speaker 3: when I play with friends. Can you play a just
Speaker 3: say no card on a just say no example player
Speaker 3: one play slide deal?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't need the example. Yes, that's a bit.
Speaker 1: A lot of people have Monopoly Deal questions that are legitimate.
Speaker 1: That was not one. Yes, you can always play. If
Speaker 1: somebody just say nos, your your move. You can just
Speaker 1: say no on top of it. Then they have to
Speaker 1: do it, and it doesn't count. Like if you were
Speaker 1: finished with your three turns and you put that and
Speaker 1: they put it just say no, you can put it,
Speaker 1: just say no down. It doesn't count as a fourth move.
Speaker 1: It just blocks theirs, and yes, they have to do it.
Speaker 1: That bothers me because that person we were just talking
Speaker 1: about Monopoly Deal with Maggie. It is a great game. Christy,
Speaker 1: my manager, she wants me to get the Inventor Monopoly
Speaker 1: Deal as a game, asked on the podcast, just so
Speaker 1: I can really get into a few of the gray areas.
Speaker 1: My father in law. When I play with him, it's maddening.
Speaker 1: Every time he goes, can I do that with this card?
Speaker 1: First of all, every card has the directions on them,
Speaker 1: like what this card does, Like you just have to
Speaker 1: read the card, you know, collect two hundred dollars from
Speaker 1: every player, pick one person. So that's maddening. You know.
Speaker 1: Joscelyn who was on the show Doctor Joscelyn, she was
Speaker 1: on this show. We got her to start playing it
Speaker 1: regularly and she goes, oh, you know, we're not loving
Speaker 1: it that much. And I'm like what. And then I
Speaker 1: found out that the rule that she was ignoring was
Speaker 1: that you each time you get up to three turns,
Speaker 1: but no more. And she was just going to an
Speaker 1: infinite amount of turns. And I'm like, that's not even
Speaker 1: a game. You were just what you guys are just
Speaker 1: going through cards at that point. Maddening. Anyway, all right,
Speaker 1: let's do some plugs. Carl, you still here, Carl, Come on, buddy,
Speaker 1: stay with me. We're doing a show over here. I've
Speaker 1: got the tosshowstore dot com, Eddie's Tour, my tour. Come
Speaker 1: check me out in the Midwest, Come check me out, NorCal,
Speaker 1: Come check me out. In Vegas. I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: add a few more days. I might go up to Canada.
Speaker 1: I wanna go up to Vancouver. Free plug hit the
Speaker 1: music there you go finally, so I'm just classic rock
Speaker 1: and roll. This week's free plug is for race high
Speaker 1: school graduation party. Oh that's nice. Race is a fan
Speaker 1: of my comedy and invited me to attend his high
Speaker 1: school graduation party. All right, well you know I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna show up, but I'll give you a free plug.
Speaker 1: He went so far as to say that my unique
Speaker 1: humor has been a constant source of joy during his
Speaker 1: high school years. Well, isn't that nice? His party is
Speaker 1: June eighteenth, that's six pm. I'm sorry, Raised, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be in Omaha that night doing a show Omaha, Nebraska.
Speaker 1: Make sure everybody comes out and sees me that night.
Speaker 1: But if you're in a wherever he is, where's Racelip
Speaker 1: racelives in Ohio, Loveland, Ohio, Head on over to his house.
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, he's got a high school graduation. Can graduation. Congraduations. Congraduations.
Speaker 1: That's kind of funny to do it that way. Congratulations
Speaker 1: on graduate in high school. That's a big accomplishment. I
Speaker 1: was the first person in my family to graduate high school.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be fun if you were in such a
Speaker 1: like a family like that where you got like such milestones,
Speaker 1: huge parties? Oh Man, June eighteenth, sixteen pm. The party
Speaker 1: is located in Loveland, Ohio. We're just giving out his
Speaker 1: home address. That seems that seems like I'm setting myself
Speaker 1: up for some type of lawsuit. We might have to
Speaker 1: bleep this out, guys. But listen, if you if you
Speaker 1: know Race, you'll know where his house is. I'm guessing.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing they'll be balloons or something out front. Loveland's
Speaker 1: twenty miles outside of Cincinnati, so you're you're right. You
Speaker 1: know what, if you're in Kentucky, you're down in Louisville,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be hard to jump up in, you know,
Speaker 1: say hey to Race. I'm sure they got food, open bar,
Speaker 1: high school graduation. They probably don't have an open bar, Carl, Carl,
Speaker 1: you want to go to? Is there parking? What's the
Speaker 1: parking situation gonna They're not gonna have a valet? No,
Speaker 1: I'm not in Loveland, Ohio. It's I'm sure you can
Speaker 1: park in their neighbors driveway. Don't block it off completely,
Speaker 1: you know, do it tandem. Don't block the mailbox. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, Well, congratulations on your high school graduation. I
Speaker 1: hope everybody has a good time at the party, and
Speaker 1: you know, hope nobody uh drinks and drives or any
Speaker 1: of that stuff. See you next week.