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Speaker 2: should be. Let me start with this, beware, beware of

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Speaker 2: the group think echo chamber. People say things, they repeat them,

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Speaker 2: people repeat what they repeat. Eventually it becomes one big

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Speaker 2: circular firing squad group think acho chamber. Let me explain.

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Speaker 2: I get it. Angels fans are losing their minds. It

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Speaker 2: came to a head Tuesday. The Angels were dealt a

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Speaker 2: massive blow. Mike Trout, their all star outfielder, headed to

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Speaker 2: the injured list with a left hammet bone fracture. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we've all been there. I never even heard of a

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Speaker 2: hamlet bone. The injury. Well, it's gonna keep trout sideline

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Speaker 2: till probably around Labor day. He did have surgery the

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Speaker 2: other day. They said it was successful. I'm still waiting

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Speaker 2: for the press release and says Joe Slavatnik had surgery.

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Speaker 2: It was not successful, and he's not resting comfortably in

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Speaker 2: See group think Ecko Chamber. You hear things. It's like,

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Speaker 2: do you have a dog. By the way, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: while the other day and they got a new dog.

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Speaker 2: You gott a rescue a rescue dog, a rescue dog.

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Speaker 2: How about that really a rescue dog? Did you rescue

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Speaker 2: regard for your personal safety? Did you really rescue the dog?

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Speaker 2: Or did you go to a place where you get

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Speaker 2: the sad eyes keep staring at me. That's what we did.

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Speaker 2: My kids call him a rescue dog. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: spoil their fun. But on this one, I'm spoiling your fun.

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Speaker 2: Stay away from the group think Echo Chamber. I get it.

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Speaker 2: The timing is terrible for the Angels. They're teetering on

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Speaker 2: multiple games back in the al Wes, multiple games back

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Speaker 2: in the Wildcard the Dodgers. They have been beating them

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Speaker 2: like a red and mule. It's July eighth in this

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Speaker 2: man's Major League Baseball. If you are five hundred on

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Speaker 2: Labor Day. The Angels are one game under five hundred.

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Speaker 2: See me on Labor Day. See where they're at. But

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Speaker 2: let's get to the larger issue here, because everybody's tearing

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Speaker 2: their hair out and there's so much teeth gnashing. Oh,

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Speaker 2: you gotta bite the bullet, now, you do. You just

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Speaker 2: gotta trade shohel tany. No, you don't. By the way,

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Speaker 2: a buddy of mine, Doug Anderson, had played high school football.

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Speaker 2: Was great guy, genius, chiropractor and brea. He uh he

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Speaker 2: sends really great you know, obscure stats. And when Ellie

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Speaker 2: de la Cruz stole second, third and home on two pitches,

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Speaker 2: two thousand or nineteen eleven. You did it on three pitches.

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Speaker 2: Dyla Cruz did it on two pitches. What if day

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Speaker 2: And what if you're in Cincinnati having a nice cold

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Speaker 2: you say, yeah, you know, we haven't won three or

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Speaker 2: four five years. Let's just trade trade Delhi dal La

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Speaker 2: compare sends to Babe Ruth, our apt and irrespective. If

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Speaker 2: important to you that what Otani is doing is even

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Speaker 2: better than what Babe Ruth did. Knock yourself out. Let's

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Speaker 2: take arguing over your favorite noodle in a play of spaghetti.

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Speaker 2: But this I do know. After six years in the league,

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Speaker 2: nineteen nineteen, Ruth hit three twenty two twenty nine home

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Speaker 2: runs one hundred and thirteen runs batted in. Now you

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Speaker 2: just mention that Showa Yotani is finishing his sixth year.

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Speaker 2: He is thirty five and eighteen on the mound. He's

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Speaker 2: got one hundred home runs already more than that, and

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Speaker 2: he's got a chance to set more records this year,

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Speaker 2: which he continues to do. Let's go back to nineteen nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Harry Frazy the theatrical producer sold Babe Ruth to the

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Speaker 2: No No No Net Frasie never live that down. And oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, the curse, so the Van Beato was born.

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Speaker 2: So you've got this elephant in the room here. When

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Speaker 2: it comes to the Angels twenty twenty three, many believe

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Speaker 2: now Sho Heo Tani could be rocking a different uniform

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Speaker 2: by the time we get to labor Day. That's a

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Speaker 2: real fear among some people. Why, well, he's only getting older.

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Speaker 2: They can't sniff the playoffs. I'm going to give you

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Speaker 2: four reasons why you do not do that, lest you

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Speaker 2: want to be compared to Harry Frasey. Number one. I

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Speaker 2: know Arti Morenos had his ups and downs. Maybe he

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Speaker 2: should sell the team. I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 2: the man I was there. I made it a point

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Speaker 2: to fly back from Michigan in twenty oh two with

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Speaker 2: the Rally Monkey team won the World Series. Angels always

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Speaker 2: But an owner is obligated to put the best, most competitive,

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Speaker 2: That's their job. How do you do that without show

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Speaker 2: hao time? As I just mentioned a second ago in

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Speaker 2: this man's Major League Baseball, in this playoff format, if

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Speaker 2: you're merely five hundred on Labor Day, you're very much

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Speaker 2: in the hunt. Can the Angels be five hundred on

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Speaker 2: September first? Maybe Otani's healthy, Maybe feel free Anthony Rendon

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Speaker 2: the last month of the season where magic can happen.

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Speaker 2: But not dead yet. Shoyotani is only twenty nine years old.

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Speaker 2: He's entering his prime. He has many serviceable years left.

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Speaker 2: And the Angels got him on a bar and did

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Speaker 2: you forget that? I couldn't wait to see him twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: I took the drive, got my credential. The Angels happened

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Speaker 2: to play Tampa Bay that night. Back in May and

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, Blake Snell was pitching. I watched Otani very closely.

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Speaker 2: Snell through a high rising fastball about ninety eight. Otani

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Speaker 2: scored up the bat, hit a line, hit, a laser,

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Speaker 2: my god. The last time I heard that sound coming

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Speaker 2: guy is special. He's Ruthian. You don't let a babe

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Speaker 2: Ruthian legend get away for any price. He does two jobs,

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Speaker 2: and obviously you have all observed that he's a historical talent.

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Speaker 2: The final thing about this, this is show business. People

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Speaker 2: forget sports our show business. We don't have a royalty

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Speaker 2: in this country. Our athletes are entertainers. They are our royalty.

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Speaker 2: And therefore, if you have someone like a Shoheo Tani,

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Speaker 2: even though you are not winning, he puts on a

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Speaker 2: show nightly and this is show business. Including the fact

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Speaker 2: he hit his thirty second home run the night, Otani

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Speaker 2: has a chance. He has a chance to pass Merits

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Speaker 2: at sixty one. An Aaron judged sixty two this season

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Speaker 2: by hitting sixty three home runs. Do you really want

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Speaker 2: is the best entertainment. I get that, and O'tani still

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Speaker 2: gives the Angels the best chance to win. I don't

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Speaker 2: for the Washington Nationals, the hall that Juan Soto brought back?

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Speaker 2: How's it working on for the Padres getting Sodo Pottery's

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Speaker 2: are a dumpster fire. Bryce Harper went to the Phillies.

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Speaker 2: I don't know they went to the World So there's

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Speaker 2: been one one yet. Trout will be back. Rendon. Feel

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Speaker 2: free to step up and start raking. The checks aren't bouncing.

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Speaker 2: Feel free to do that. And I get it that

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Speaker 2: that Johea Tani actually won a World championship in the

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Speaker 2: They all have assets to hand out. We get that

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Speaker 2: Otani would have a lot of bidders, okay, but I

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Speaker 2: I just don't think it's gonna happen. But I truly

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Speaker 2: believe if the Angels do trade Shohio Tani this year

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Speaker 7: Hey, Bernie, how are you? It's great to be here

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Speaker 2: A good point. We'll find out if for a Major

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Speaker 2: I want to it's gone a little radio silent. I've

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Speaker 2: by the owners. Let's start there. What do you know

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Speaker 7: Pretty much the same thing. What's interesting, Bernie? I think

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Speaker 7: the question is where will the Athletics play in twenty five,

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's going to come to that.

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Speaker 2: No, I think that's been well publicized, and you don't

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Speaker 7: I think it's highly unlikely, Bernie. I think the problem,

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Speaker 2: Talk with Alan snow LV Sports Biz. Alan. Layout for

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Speaker 2: Layout the steps chronologically, what needs to happen between now

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Speaker 7: Well, probably within the next three to six months. Assuming

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Speaker 7: I mean, I haven't heard any concrete plans about looking

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Speaker 7: And what's interesting, Bernie, was that I thought the Athletics,

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Speaker 2: Alan, great stuff. The story is fluid. Will continue to

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Speaker 2: six months. Thanks so much, Bernie.

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Speaker 7: It's always a pleasure to talk with you all the best.

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Speaker 2: Thanks man. That's Alan Snell LV Sports Biz, longtime writer

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Speaker 5: Well, Bernie Vegas certainly becoming the Vegas hot spot, and

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Speaker 5: the Brewers eight to five. Eli Dela Cruz, what more

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Speaker 5: can we say about him? He stole three straight bases

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Speaker 5: in the seventh inning Philadelphia losing five to three against

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Speaker 5: the Marlins. The Dodgers pound the Angels ten to five.

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Speaker 5: They sweep all four games in this year's Freeway Series,

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Speaker 5: and the Padres bounce back to beat the Mets three

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Speaker 5: to one.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Bernie, all right, thanks, Kevin. You know,

437
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure Britney Spears going to have it right.

438
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: She may have proved a point that I've thought about

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00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: for a long time. And the NBA Summer League, which

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00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: has become a Madame Tussauds for all things NBA past present, future.

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00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: People are starstruck. People want to see the stars. At

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00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: any given time, you'll see Jerry West, Kreme Jabbar, all

443
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: kinds of luminaries, current, past, future. You know, I get it.

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00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: People see stars. They're larger than life. Again, we don't

445
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: have royalty in this country. Our athletes are our royalty.

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Speaker 2: And I the first year I talk about this in

447
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: my book June ninety four is the first nine ever

448
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: had a credential and it was the night of the

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Speaker 2: Oja Chase. But I think for the first year, full

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Speaker 2: year or more, every time I got my first credential

451
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Speaker 2: to Allions game, a Michigan game, a Tiger game, Piston game,

452
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: red Wing, I'd look around and my eyes were wide

453
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Speaker 2: because you would see important people. I'll never forget. I'm

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Speaker 2: slightly ashamed of myself that I did this, but I

455
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: did it. And you remember the game when Michigan played

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Speaker 2: Colorado and September ninety four and at the final play

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00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 2: of the game, Cordel Stewart launched a seventy yard pass

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Speaker 2: to Michael Westbrook. He was the wide receiver who caught

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Speaker 2: the ball. Michigan lost. The crowd of one hundred and

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Speaker 2: ten thousand went from noisy to silent in one second. Well,

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00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call that day with Keith Jackson, and I'll

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Speaker 2: never forget when I walked into the press box. I

463
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 2: see Keith over there, and I'm thinking myself, Oh my god,

464
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Speaker 2: I've been listening to this guy on TV for twenty years.

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00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: I got to say hello to him. I got a credential.

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Speaker 2: I have the right to be there like him. But

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Speaker 2: I was a douche. I walked away. Hi, mister Jackson,

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00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: how you doing? Boy? I tell you I love the

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Speaker 2: way you talked. He looks at me with a straight

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Speaker 2: face and says, well, we've got to talk for there, boy,

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Speaker 2: we don't think for are all right? Good night, folks.

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Speaker 2: You've been a great audience. So the star attraction last night,

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00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: nicely done. Mark. The star attraction Friday night was Victor

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Speaker 2: wimb Mimyama. If you don't believe me, Vivid seats one

475
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 2: hundred and six dollars to get in on the aftermarket.

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00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,479
Speaker 2: The thing sold out four days before the game. If

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00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: you wanted to sit court side at twelve hundred dollars.

478
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,479
Speaker 2: They wanted to see the current future royalty. How did

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00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: it work out? Well, I've been covering the NBA a

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Speaker 2: long time, and I've covered ten of the last twelve

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Speaker 2: NBA summer leagues. So let me just stop by saying this.

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Speaker 2: This is a three part answer, my honest, unfiltered, objective.

483
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: They are objective truths and personal feelings. These are objective truths,

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Speaker 2: I believe, not personal feelings. Number One, Wemby's got some

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00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 2: legit handles. They're all gaga because he's a guard. He's

486
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: a seven foot four guard. He's got a thirty eight

487
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: foot wingspan, he's got great vision, he's a great passor.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I said, the easiest comparison

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Speaker 2: to me is is Peyton Manning, because he's a good

490
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 2: passor and he's not real fleet of foot. He's got instincts.

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Speaker 2: He showed real maturity the way he handled himself after

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Speaker 2: the game and postgame interviews. But he got knocked off

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00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: balanced many times in traffic. He's got to get a

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Speaker 2: lot stronger, Which leads me to my second observation about

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Speaker 2: Victor wembin Yama. We keep hearing, well, he's only nineteen.

496
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: He's only nineteen. He's only nineteen, Okay, okay, But at

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Speaker 2: this stage of development, I saw other nineteen year olds.

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Speaker 2: You may have heard of Magic Johnson. I saw him

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Speaker 2: at nineteen, saw DRYL. Dawkins at nineteen. I saw Bill

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Speaker 2: Walton in nineteen. I saw Lebron James at nineteen. I

501
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: saw Kobe Bryant at nineteen. I saw Louel Sinder before

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00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: he became Kareem Abdul Jabbar as a sophomore in UCLA

503
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: at nineteen. Now, why do I invoke these names. You've

504
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: been telling us he's an all timer. Just show up,

505
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: add Water, Rentree Peak, get out of the way. I

506
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: had people tweeting, Hey, you know he's guy's the real deal.

507
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 2: I tweeted at this one guy, have you seen him

508
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Speaker 2: in person? He didn't answer. I said to have you

509
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,239
Speaker 2: seen him in person? Well, he had? I saw him

510
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Speaker 2: in person the G League he dropped thirty six. The

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00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: G League's not the NBA. And by the way, the

512
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: NBA Stumble League is maybe twenty percent of the NBA.

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00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: Maybe he is nowhere. Victor Wimbdan Yama is nowhere near

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Speaker 2: at age nineteen. The stage of development of the players

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00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: I just mentioned, Magic Dawkins, Walt Lebron, Kobe il Sender,

516
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Speaker 2: just to name a few, nowhere near. And they've been

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Speaker 2: telling us he is the real deal. You know, if

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Speaker 2: wem Ben Yama had showed up last night and no

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00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: one had ever heard of him, and his name is

520
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: Joel Slabotnik, and it said Slabotnik on the back of

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00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: his uniform. He looked just like another guy on the court. Okay,

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00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: give him a chance. It's one game. But I will

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Speaker 2: tell you, in my many years of covering the NBA

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Speaker 2: Summer League, if I juxtaposed what wem beIN Yama would

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Speaker 2: look like versus other players that also made their debut,

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Speaker 2: go back to twenty nineteen Zion Williamson, incredible debut men

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Speaker 2: against boys. Better get out of the way, runaway cook machine.

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Speaker 2: He owned the lane. You saw wem Bin Yama. The

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Speaker 2: third shot he missed. He went up and I thought

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Speaker 2: he'd slam that baby home. As Dowcas used to say,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna if I go to the rack and I

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Speaker 2: look to dunk, you better get out of the way

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Speaker 2: because I'm breaking your e F and wrist. I will

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Speaker 2: break your e F and wrisk. That's what Darryl Dawkins said.

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Speaker 2: Chocolate Thunder Love the Dudelrus entertaining beyond belief, pretty good

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Speaker 2: NBA player. When Minyama goes out for that dunk, finesse

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00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: is it fiddelfarts around the rim tries some reverse lamp

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00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: and misses the thing badly. No finishing with authority. He's

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00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: not physical, not a great motor, and he was gassed. Okay,

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00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: it's one game. I'm not listen. I'm not the one

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Speaker 2: to put him into the Hall of Fame before he

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Speaker 2: ever played a game. But I've got an open mind.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what he looks like a few years you now, I,

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00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: as Arnie Spanners says, the show is tonight. The bottom

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00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: line is this. I can only base it what I

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00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: saw one game in the NBA Summer League, which is

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00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: twenty percent of an NBA game. And other guys when

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Speaker 2: you juxtapose other luminaries like Zion Williamson, like Damian Lillard,

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Speaker 2: like Devin Booker, Dion Waiters, Andrew Wiggins, how about Kristaps

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00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: porsingis those are examples of players that all came in

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00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: with It's the same opportunity, far less hype, maybe Zion,

552
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: and they made very good first impressions. They all looked

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00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: like NBA players. They looked like they were two levels

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Speaker 2: above what everybody else, and their stage of development was

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Speaker 2: on the floor. I cannot say that about Victor Winbin Yama.

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Speaker 2: My understanding he's gonna play Sunday night and forget all

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Speaker 2: of this. Let's see what he looks like when you

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Speaker 2: put him in a real NBA game in November. Let's

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00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: see what he looks like in January and February. He's

560
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: been around the league and he gets banged and he's

561
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: running up the running up and down ninety four feet.

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Speaker 2: Maybe eighty two nights a year, may not play eighty

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00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: two nights a year. Whatever. The only thing we don't

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Speaker 2: know is can a human body seven foot four survive

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00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: that kind of pounding over a duration? And I know

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00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: this is a superfluent statistic, but the only guy seven

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Speaker 2: to five they ever averaged ten points is Yao Ming.

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Speaker 2: Last night, Twitter was blown up. They're comparing them to

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Speaker 2: Sean Bradley, calling him the French Sean Bradley. That's what

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00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: people do. People overreact. Back to the group think echo chamber.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to disparage Victor Wimbenyama as a matter

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Speaker 2: of fact. Coming up, I'm gonna give you what I

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Speaker 2: thought were three pluses from Wimber Victor women Yama that

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Speaker 2: we saw Friday night, acknowledging he's got a hell of

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Speaker 2: a long way to go, and I mean a hell

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Speaker 2: of a long way further than I thought. But Romosl'm

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Speaker 2: built in the day. I'm Bernie Fraddle or come to

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Speaker 2: you live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tirac

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Come to you live from the tire Ac dot Com

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Speaker 2: studios here in Las Vegas will take you up to

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Speaker 2: three am Pacific, six am Eastern, top of the hour

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Speaker 2: of Mark Medina Medina Magic, Madina Midnight Magic. Plenty to

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Speaker 2: talk about in the NBA. We might need two segments tonight.

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00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: It's just absolutely overflowing, as are the crowds here for

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Speaker 2: NBA Summer League. And give credit to Wemby. He has

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Speaker 2: transformed this event into an even greater spectacle. Back zion

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Speaker 2: I thought maybe he did that in twenty nineteen when

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Speaker 2: the whole thing sold out the day before and tickets

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00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: on the aftermarket were up to ninety two dollars. Well,

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00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: this whole thing sold out four days before, all seventeen

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Speaker 2: five hundred seats at the Thomas and Mack Center. Vivid

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Speaker 2: Seats listed resale prices for Friday's game, Wemby's debut reaching

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Speaker 2: one hundred and one hundred and six dollars. That's about

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Speaker 2: twenty five percent higher than Zion's debut for New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if you wanted to sit courtside Friday

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Speaker 2: night for Wemby's debut, tickets were about twelve hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: and the demand, I understand was insatiable. That's if you

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Speaker 2: wanted to sit quart side, all right. The final stat

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Speaker 2: line for Wemby nine points two or three of thirteen,

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00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 2: shooting one to six from behind the arc. That part

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00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: wasn't real pretty. As I mentioned, Wenby missed a driving

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00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: lap on his first attempt, and then San Antonio's next

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00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: possession he proceeded to brick a mid range jumper, and

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00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: then two possessions later he muffed the dunk in traffic.

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00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: He didn't like being in traffic. I tell you, Kai

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00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: Jones got in the space a couple of times. The

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Speaker 2: first shot he missed. He had up driving. He had

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Speaker 2: a wide open lane and all of a sudden, Kai

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00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: Jones closed that space, got got in his grill a

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00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,479
Speaker 2: little bit, and Wemby was bothered by that. He looked

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Speaker 2: uncomfortable with the level of physicality. And this is twenty

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Speaker 2: percent of an NBA game. Still, still here's the big

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Speaker 2: butt peewee. The talent is pretty evident. He does have talent.

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00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 2: Wemby powered in a turnaround. He got through contact, his

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00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: long three pointer turned into a four point play. His

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Speaker 2: shot is effortless, his release is something that you teach.

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00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: He had a really cool shovel pass to Dominic Barlow

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Speaker 2: for his first assist of the game. He had a

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00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 2: dribble drive, made another nice pass, collected three assists, could

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Speaker 2: have had more. He also blocked five shots. The dude's

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Speaker 2: got a wingspan like nothing I've ever seen, Honest to god,

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Speaker 2: it's amazing. It's just amazing looking at him as a

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Speaker 2: human being, physical specimen. Right, you look at him at

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Speaker 2: different angles, you can't take your eyes off, really, frankly,

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00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: and it's been kind of a whirlwind, you know, first

633
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: few weeks he had been in France, flew to New York,

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00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: went from New York to San Antonio, San Antonio, not

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Speaker 2: a Vegas, And in mid June he was playing in

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Speaker 2: the French League finals and only July he was on.

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Speaker 2: He got that little dust up with Britney Spears, which

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00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: is a big nothing. I think he's maybe a little fatigued.

639
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: He's admitted by the way, I think the dude's mature

640
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: for his age. He admitted conditioning was an issue and

641
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: you could see it, and that was fairly understandable. But

642
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: he does. The size is legit, the skill is legit.

643
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: He does have a good basketball like you, and I

644
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: understand to some degree why people want to hype this

645
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: guy so bad. But his stage of development juxtaposed against

646
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: the other people I mentioned, and his first impression in

647
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: terms of what he got to do on an NBA floor,

648
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: even though it's the summer league, didn't line it up,

649
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: not like some of the other names I mentioned. He's

650
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: got plenty of work on. But there is one thing

651
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: I would say. He was everywhere on the defensive end.

652
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: He would block layups, He blocked the three, and he

653
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: did log twenty eight minutes. And if you were wearing

654
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: a Charlotte uniform, you were going to the basket, I

655
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: guarantee you you kept your head on a swivel. Because

656
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: even though Webbin Yama is not really the fleetest to

657
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 2: foot guy, and he's gonna have to adjust to defending

658
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: pick and rolls, which he's gonna face in the NBA.

659
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 2: But you could tell these Summer League players were aware

660
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 2: of Wemby's presence. They're aware of his size, they were

661
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: aware of his length. I'm not going to grate him

662
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 2: high on athleticism other than the fact he has way

663
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: above average hand eye coordination, and you just don't see

664
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 2: that with a guy seven foot four in the history

665
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: of humankind. It's not you know, a few years back,

666
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: I thought Chris DAPs poor Zingi's had excellent hand eye coordination.

667
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 2: He's a pretty good NBA career. Wemby's in a different

668
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: level from that. But I also think por Singis is

669
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: what was a much better player at that stage of

670
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: development when he made his debut. Think Rudy Gobert. Rudy

671
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: Gobert on the defensive end is a defensive guy. Clearly

672
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: he's enforced defensively. I think Wemby has that kind of ceiling,

673
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 2: if not greater to be play that kind of defense

674
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: in the NBA. Right, his footwork was kind of sloppy.

675
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: He seems to push his shots every now and then,

676
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: but he's fluid when he takes time, and he seems

677
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: to be comfortable off the dribble. And he's comfortable in

678
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: the high post, not comfortable in the low post. So

679
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 2: I'm really not sure what his game is gonna be

680
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: when he gets to the NBA. Not one hundred percent,

681
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 2: but again, after one game, give the kid a break.

682
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens coming up. Butadina Magic, we chop

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693
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Speaker 2: We've got the NBA Summer League in Vegas. We've got

694
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Speaker 2: Victor Wemby in Vegas, so you know it's that time.

695
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Speaker 2: Mark Medina Medina Magic. Every Saturday at midnight. The NBA

696
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: news cycle has literally become twenty four to seven. It

697
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Speaker 2: never ends, and we don't want it to end. Mark.

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Speaker 2: How you doing tonight?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing well. I'm just trying to get my head

700
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 6: wrapped around what this in season tournament was. I was

701
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 6: at the unveiling earlier today, got explanations from the officials,

702
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 6: and I might still be confused by it.

703
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: Well that's kind of the news of the day, and

704
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: I thought they did a pretty good job laying it out.

705
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: We're all sort of drinking through a fivese. But between

706
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: November third and December seventh, you know, people can google

707
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: and see what it means. The question is what do

708
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: you believe the motivations were and do you think it

709
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 2: can work? Well.

710
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 6: I think the motivations were that they wanted to add,

711
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 6: you know, more relevance to the regular season now in

712
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 6: fair and as the NBA officials said that, they've started

713
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 6: brainstorming these ideas fifteen years ago, so it wasn't a

714
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 6: direct reaction to load management and players staying out games

715
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 6: and fans not really caring about the regular season as much,

716
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 6: but it very much ties together. And so with this format,

717
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 6: their hope is that, you know, it provides a lot

718
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 6: of in season competition with you know, you know, different

719
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,479
Speaker 6: tournament group settings and creates more excitement and then there's

720
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 6: going to be a championship. There's you know, compensation involved.

721
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, what ultimately will

722
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 6: answer whether it's a good idea or not as once

723
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 6: we see how the product plays out on the floor,

724
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 6: would they do the players care and be how does

725
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 6: this actually affect the regular season games and the structure

726
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 6: with how to strategize everything through an eighty two game season.

727
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 6: And I think when you look at the All Star

728
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 6: Game and the Plans tournament, you seem potential pluses and minuses,

729
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 6: like there's been reduced tanking in the regular season because

730
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 6: of the Plans tornment, good competition, thumb all Star games

731
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 6: really competitive this past year not so much.

732
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 4: So.

733
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 6: It is very much a fluid thing. And so while

734
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 6: I do applaud.

735
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 7: The NBA for always.

736
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 6: Trying to be proactive and innovative, there is definitely a

737
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 6: possibility this doesn't actually address the root problem of it.

738
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 2: So I know that Adam Silver has had designs on

739
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: this for more than a decade when he was He's

740
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: admitted that wants to Copper copy European soccer model. But

741
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 2: Joe dumars Is admitted that not everybody's going to buy

742
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 2: in right away. What do you think the chief reasons

743
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: people are not buying in in terms of their needs?

744
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: You of reaction?

745
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting. You know the officials, including Joe jumars Is,

746
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 6: saying that there was a lot of pushback from teams

747
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 6: to players, mostly because of the routine of what they

748
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 6: do on an eighty two game schedule. But after all

749
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 6: this brainstorming and all this stuff, they said they got

750
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 6: a lot of support. Now, ultimately the support will matter

751
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 6: once it plays out on the court, and whether they're

752
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 6: skepticism or praise Right now, all that matters is how

753
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 6: things play on the actual games. I mean, I remember

754
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 6: when they launched the play in tournament during the bubble,

755
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 6: they liked they liked the idea, but then when it

756
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 6: was during a regular season the following year, a lot

757
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 6: of players were complaining about it. But then they changed

758
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 6: their tune once it kind of saved their playoff champions

759
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 6: So with this, I think on the surface, I think

760
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 6: that it could create more excitement with you know, more

761
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 6: meaningful game or is the cash incentive. But I also

762
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 6: could see it potentially create more problems where maybe younger

763
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 6: teams have more motivation to compete in these kind of

764
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 6: tournaments because a lot of young players are not as compensated,

765
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 6: maybe they don't have a realistic shot win in a

766
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 6: championship where the truth contenders might view this as kind

767
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 6: of a pain in the you know what. So who knows.

768
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 6: But those are my early thoughts. But ultimately we'll see

769
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 6: in December whether.

770
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Speaker 2: This is good or not. Yeah. Absolutely, I'm going to

771
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: keep an open mind, okay, because it feels weird right now,

772
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: but they have their motivations, whether it's revenue, whether it's notoriety,

773
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: whether it's more eyeballs on the TV or just trying

774
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: to make that December part of the schedule more relevant.

775
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, all right. I want to talk about

776
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: Victor Wemby because I gave what I thought was a

777
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: very objective analysis and look, I covered Anthony Bennett at

778
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: UNLV and I knew he was going to be a

779
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: bust because I saw a game against Air Force and

780
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 2: he kept getting beat on the same back door cut

781
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: nine times in a role. It was like a bugs

782
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: Bunny cartoon. He never corrected it. He never ever corrected it.

783
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: Good kid, he tried, wasn't gonna work. Now, the only

784
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: reason I invoked that comparison is because if Wemby's name

785
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: was Joe Slobotnik, he just looked like another guy in

786
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 2: the court last night. Now, I'm gonna give him a chance,

787
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 2: But I can't use the nineteen year old excuse because

788
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 2: I've seen plenty of their nineteen year olds who staged

789
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: in development was far beyond what his is, and I've

790
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: seen plenty of other guys make great first impressions in

791
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: the NBA Summer League. No, it's my understanding. He's gonna

792
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: play Sunday night. What do you expect his role to

793
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 2: be with the Spurs when the season.

794
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 6: Starts, He's going to have a pretty major role. I mean,

795
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 6: he's gonna be their number one guy. Now, I think

796
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 6: that summer league and in the regular season, they're gonna

797
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 6: very much manage his workloads. So we can pencil out

798
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 6: eighty two games. He'll probably sit out back to backs.

799
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 6: I think it's all with the idea that we're in

800
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 6: low management era, but also so he can fully adapt

801
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 6: to the physical grind of the NBA, not just eighty

802
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 6: two game season and all that, but you know the

803
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 6: physicality that he's going to absorb. And so what I

804
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 6: saw in Summer League, it's not a telltale sign because

805
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 6: it's a summer league game, but you saw some real

806
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 6: glimpses of greatness with his passing, his you know, I

807
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 6: think his calm demeanor, with how composed he was with

808
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 6: playing the game, his decision making, but he also saw

809
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 6: some of the potential pits balls where guys were being

810
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 6: physical with him when he was posting up. He's getting

811
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 6: double team their turnovers, he's getting frustrated with the foul calls,

812
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 6: and so I think with that he's going to be

813
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 6: a very good player his rookie season. He could win

814
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 6: Rookie of Year. Maybe not because Scoot Henderson is really

815
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 6: good and I suspect he'll play more games than one

816
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 6: but Yama, but there are going to be a lot

817
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 6: of uh kind of short term hiccups with the physicality.

818
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 6: When I talk to people around the league, they expect

819
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 6: it'll take till year three where he bulks up enough

820
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 6: and you know, has enough resiliency to withstand you know,

821
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 6: the physicality that's coming his way. And look, no one's

822
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 6: going to ask him to be like Shack or anything like.

823
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 6: He's going to be a finesse player. And that's I

824
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 6: think the thing that leaves people optimistic. He has a

825
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 6: skill set, uh and really good decision making and fundamentals

826
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 6: that show that he can, you know, find out the

827
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 6: ways to be effective even if the physicality is a weakness,

828
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 6: but he does have to be able to absorb it.

829
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 6: So I think year three or four you'll finally see

830
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 6: the full complete player. But even a partial player in

831
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Speaker 6: Victor of Wemanam is still pretty special.

832
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Speaker 2: Well, I do agree Mark that the talent is there.

833
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: He's got way above average handles, and he's a he's

834
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: got very good vision in court instincts, and he's an

835
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: excellent passer and people are namored. Was that because he's

836
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: seven foot four? That's why? Yeah, that's the only reason why.

837
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: I mean, he's got guard skills and he's seven foot four.

838
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: Your body is what your body is. And if it's

839
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: going to take him three to four years to handle

840
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: the physicality of the NBA. I don't consider that to

841
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 2: be a good thing at all. I mean, the people

842
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: were telling us he's an all timer, and I you know, look,

843
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: I saw Lebron, I saw Magic, Darryl Dawkins, Bill Walton,

844
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: Kobe al Sinder at nineteen. The stage of development was

845
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: way beyond what I see in women Yama at age nineteen.

846
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: So if they're telling me three to four years or

847
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: telling you three to four years, I'm not so sure

848
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: that's a good thing. But I'm not writing him off.

849
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: It's just that they told us he was an all timer.

850
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: Do you expect him how many minutes a game? Do

851
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: you expect him to get his first year in San Antonio?

852
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 6: I mean, this is all flow that expects to mid thirties.

853
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: Okay, But but I.

854
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 6: Don't think go play the two and I think you

855
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 6: raise some interesting and fair questions. But I would stress

856
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 6: that these things aren't mutually exclusive, like just because he

857
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 6: might he'll have struggles this first few seasons. The companing

858
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 6: thing is he's still going to be a really good player.

859
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 6: So my whole point is he's not going to be

860
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 6: a complete player, but the skill set that he has.

861
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 6: It's going to allow him to make a very significant

862
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 6: impact off the jump. But while I do think it's

863
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 6: ambitious to think burs are all of a sudden going

864
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 6: to be a playoff contender, I give it to year

865
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 6: two until they get back in the picture. Because he's

866
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 6: going to be developed. They're probably going to use cap

867
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 6: space on rounding out the roster. So yeah, again, just

868
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 6: because the physicality is going to be a challenge, the

869
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 6: thing I have to stress is that he has other

870
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 6: fallback options, and it's more about absorbing and fine tuning

871
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 6: all those things. He's not going to be a pushover.

872
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 6: Players aren't going to be able to just beat him

873
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 6: up because he has so many other skills to punish

874
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 6: them as well.

875
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: I've got to see his conditioning improved dramatically as well.

876
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 2: I will say this mark we'll get off of Wemby.

877
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 2: I've covered the NBA ten of until that last twelve years,

878
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: and I it's twenty percent of an NBA game, So

879
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: whatever he does Sunday or whatever people saw Friday, it's

880
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 2: twenty percent of an NBA game. Speaking of another guy

881
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: similar along the lines of their body type, I thought

882
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: Chet Holmgron looked pretty good. In no case, he's opener

883
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 2: the other day. What are your thoughts about him heading

884
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 2: into this year.

885
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 6: Well, look, joke's a lot stronger. I mean, that's that's

886
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 6: a model for Victor Webbit.

887
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he played four years a Gonzaga though. Okay,

888
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: it's really different. Oh yeah, yeah.

889
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,959
Speaker 6: But I mean when I saw him in Summer League

890
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 6: before he got hurt, he would look like a peg. Right,

891
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 6: So I'm just say that you put in time in

892
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 6: the weight room, and I think it shuts the case

893
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 6: because he had an injury, like that's all he could

894
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 6: we do. Uh, you know, while he's healing his right foot,

895
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 6: but that that goes a long way. But what I

896
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 6: saw with him is that he's a double double machine.

897
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 6: He has all the fundamentals and the thunder. He can

898
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 6: look at them as a legitimate playoff for it. You know,

899
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 6: they have a really good team with him and Shay Gilgers,

900
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 6: Alexander and a million of draft picks that've lost track.

901
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 6: So yeah, he's he's gonna be the real deal here.

902
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought he looked great and Scoot Henderson will

903
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: heal up quick and he'll be ready for the season.

904
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna throw this out there, you can respond

905
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: to it. I think I believe Scoot Henderson will be

906
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: a Rookie of the Year. I like his game a lot.

907
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 6: I think so. I think so. Here's why I mean

908
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 6: Scoot Henderson. He's so fast, athletic, He's a great playmaker.

909
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 6: You know, his shooting needs to improve. But the reality

910
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 6: is he's he's putting in the work. People around the

911
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 6: g League graved about how much of a gym rant

912
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 6: he is. He's gonna get a lot of playing time,

913
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 6: especially if they trade Taman Lillard, right, but I think

914
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 6: he'll play more than Victor webin Yama because of what

915
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 6: I was saying with how the Spurs are going to

916
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 6: handle him with a lot of caution, And he also

917
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 6: has that just competitive fire, like he's not afraid of

918
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 6: the moment. And I think the good thing is he's

919
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 6: it's not about him, like he wants to empower his teammates.

920
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 6: And there are a lot of Juliague guys, Julia's the

921
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 6: Night guys that just swore by how great of a

922
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 6: leader he is, and that goes a long way in

923
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 6: the NBA obviously very much.

924
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: So all right, you teased it, Let's finish up with

925
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: Dame Lillard because there's a lot of meat on the

926
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: bone here. I'm out of the opinion this is going

927
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: to last a while, and you wrote an interesting article

928
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: for sports not Is it possible? Is it within the

929
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: realm of possibility that if Dame is traded or in

930
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: principle agreed to any other team besides Miami, he's just

931
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: not going to report? Is that possible?

932
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 6: Well, look, when I on taxis, I have to say

933
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 6: what people tell me. So, but you can connect the

934
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 6: dots here, so yes, someone around.

935
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 2: Them, who works with them knows him.

936
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 6: Well, that's what he's saying. But Brett and also strength, Look,

937
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 6: Damian Lower's a professional. He loves to play basketball. He

938
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 6: doesn't want to be a disruptor. So if they actually

939
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 6: pulled the trade off to somewhere else, not Miami, I

940
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 6: would be surprised if he doesn't go to trading camp.

941
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 6: I also would be surprised if Portland decides to keep

942
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 6: them and not trade him, which is very much a possibility.

943
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 6: I've been told that Portland's comfortable riding this out up

944
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 6: until the trade deadline, for the same reasons the Brooklyn

945
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 6: Nets did that with Kevin Durant last season, they didn't

946
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 6: find a deal they wanted until they found the Phoenix

947
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 6: Suns of their trade partner. I think he would still report,

948
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 6: but look, you got her in my position, you got

949
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 6: to report what people tell you. But I also offer

950
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 6: the context that I think the underlying point was, even

951
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 6: though he doesn't have any no trade clause, and even

952
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 6: though he understands that Portland has no obligation to just

953
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 6: train to Miami just for the sake of it, he's

954
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 6: hoping that there can be a win win and that

955
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 6: he has some relationship equity, even if you want doubt

956
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 6: the fact that he, you know, became the franchise's all

957
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 6: time lead score and guide them to eight consecutive playoffs.

958
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 6: And the point that was made to me was they

959
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 6: didn't sense that Portland was really having serious discussions enough

960
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 6: with Miami to see if there were some win win proposals.

961
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 6: So if I if I had a guess, I think

962
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 6: ultimately he does get to Miami, but I don't think

963
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 6: it'll happen until the trade deadline. But look, this is

964
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 6: all fluid. There's gonna be so many twists and turns,

965
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 6: and that's just kind of the latest seven. I think

966
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 6: the best analogy I can put with this is that

967
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 6: you know, this is a divorce and right now you

968
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 6: know what people around Damian Lillard are saying and what

969
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 6: Portland's saying. It's the equivalent of, you know, both parents

970
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 6: fighting over custody of their kids and the house and

971
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 6: all that. And sometimes they expect more than what they'll

972
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 6: all time they yet, but it doesn't mean that their

973
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 6: feelings aren't valid.

974
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and just to set the record straight, I

975
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:07,919
Speaker 2: want to make sure you know I'm I wasn't trying

976
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 2: to play kill the messenger there. It's just that.

977
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 6: Oh.

978
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 2: For as I analyze these things, Mark, I just don't

979
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 2: see the package that lights of fire under Joe Cronin,

980
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 2: the owner of the Blazers, He's not looking to create

981
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 2: a human interest story. He wants to get the bet

982
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 2: the best haul. And it's my understanding the very luke

983
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: warm on Tyler Herro, who is the best player that

984
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: he could realistically offer. So it just hard for me

985
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 2: to envision that. But really good stuff, Mark, Enjoy your

986
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 2: time at the Summer League and already looking forward to

987
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 2: next Saturday Night because I just can't believe how the

988
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 2: news continues to rear its head and there's always something

989
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: to talk about.

990
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 6: Well, I appreciate you, Bernie. And yeah, we'll have a

991
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 6: lot of tacks next week. We don't know what it is,

992
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 6: but we know it will be interesting.

993
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 2: It just what you said last week and it was

994
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: so prescient. Thanks so much, Mark, you little rest buddy.

995
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: I know you've been burning that candle coming out a

996
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 2: thanks Pal. It's Mark Medina Medina Every Saturday Bernie Fradle Show,

997
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 2: midnight Pacific, three am Eastern. I'm of the belief that

998
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: the Dame Lillard situation will not be resolved anytime soon.

999
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: As Mark just alluded to, I'll break it down, give

1000
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: you my thoughts. Coming up. I'm Bernie Frattle Company live

1001
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tirack dot Com studios.

1002
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 2: Keep it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie

1003
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: Fradle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right back on

1004
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 2: the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio Company Live from

1005
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: the tirerac dot Com studios here in Las Vegas. Take

1006
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 2: you up to three am Pacific, six am Eastern. A

1007
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 2: ton of stuff to get to you, heard Mark Mendina

1008
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 2: Medina Magic Every Saturday midnight. Spend some time on Dame

1009
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: because there's an interesting wrinkle because his agent confirm what

1010
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: has been sort of an open secret since Damian Lillard

1011
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 2: requested the trade last week. He wants to only play

1012
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 2: for the Heat and he's represented Dames, represented by a

1013
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: gentleman named Aaron Goodwin. I think is doing the best

1014
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: he can for his client, but it's my understanding. It's

1015
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 2: been reported by other people closer than me in the

1016
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: situation that his agent's been calling prospective trade partners and

1017
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: warning them, saying, if you trade for my client, you're

1018
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: trading for an unhappy player. That's interesting. Apparently he's been

1019
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: called by teams, and he's called teams and it's respectful conversation.

1020
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: But truthfully, Damian Lillard really only wants to play in

1021
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 2: Miami periods, and that kind of puts Portland in a

1022
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: rough position. For this reason, I don't think this is

1023
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 2: going to be resolved anytime soon. Mark Mendina brought up

1024
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: a good point. Droe a parallel to Kevin Durant last year.

1025
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: At this time last year, it was widely believed that

1026
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: there's no way that Durant would have been on Brooklyn's

1027
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: roster on opening day opening nights same with Kyrie, but

1028
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: guess what they both were. But they both ended up

1029
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: getting traded. But it was much longer, drawn out, elongated

1030
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: process than people thought. Now there are multiple teams I

1031
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: believe that would very much be interested in trading for

1032
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard. Certainly the Celtics, Philadelphia. I think the Clippers

1033
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: would love to have him. But if you publicly confirm

1034
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: you're only interested in going to Miami, that really hurts

1035
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: Portland's leverage a little bit. Now, look, it's hard to

1036
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: it's hard to be critical of Damian Lillard. The main way.

1037
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: He turns thirty three in a week. I think he'd

1038
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: probably would like to spend his final years playing for contender.

1039
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: He's been outstanding his dozen years in Portland. Portland's got

1040
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: Scoot Henderson. They're already building for the future. They grab

1041
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 2: more assets and return for Lillard than Portland moves on.

1042
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 2: Lillard moves on. Lillard did everything he could, And I

1043
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 2: think that you know the thing that you the thing

1044
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: that you'd concern Portland fans and or Damian Lillard fans,

1045
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 2: is simply this that every time I analyze this there,

1046
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 2: every time I turn it upside down, and you know,

1047
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: look behind the curtain. It doesn't feel like the Miami

1048
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: Heat have a package that would you know, turn that

1049
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 2: that would that Portland would be that would be considered

1050
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: acceptable for them. I think they're on record is saying

1051
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 2: they're kind of lukewarm and Tyler Hero and Tyler Hero

1052
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 2: I believe is probably the best player the Heat would

1053
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: realistically offer on a trade. Now, look the the NBA

1054
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 2: player empowerment era, as it were, We are very much

1055
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: in the player empowerment era, not just in the NBA.

1056
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 2: It's been it's been positive largely when when employees can

1057
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: get at least an opportunity for power from management for

1058
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: the better good. How can that be a bad thing?

1059
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: Because all deals have to be mutually eve mutually agreed upon. Right.

1060
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 2: But here's where this may be backfiring slightly on Damian

1061
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 2: Lillard because not only is he demanded a trade, which

1062
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: is okay, but he's demanding it to be to one

1063
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 2: specific destination. And you know the NBA system, if you

1064
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 2: want to choose your destination, you got to file free agents.

1065
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: You got to be a free agent. Now, Lillard, if

1066
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 2: you were to stay in Portland for one more year,

1067
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 2: and this is a huge if, Now, could happen, right,

1068
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 2: he would become a free agent in the summer of

1069
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. But last year, Damian Lillard chose to

1070
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: sign a two year extension through the twenty six season,

1071
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 2: with the player option for the twenty seventh season. And so,

1072
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: if we're being fair an objective, you have to ask yourself.

1073
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: Has anybody looked at Damian Lillard and say, what's the

1074
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 2: point of signing that contract with the team if you're

1075
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: going to request the trade less than a year later?

1076
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 2: That is why I think this gets more complicated and

1077
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 2: stickier and confusing by the day. So now this is

1078
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: purely wait and see. Will the Blazers just give in

1079
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 2: and trade Lillard to Miami and make the best of

1080
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: it and do the best they can. Well, another team

1081
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 2: calls Bluff and say, okay, we dare you not to

1082
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: show up to Philadelphia, We dare you not to show

1083
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 2: up to the Clippers or whoever you know or you know?

1084
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 2: Will his agent put his foot down unless uh, Damian

1085
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 2: Lillard's primary concern is just getting out of Portland for

1086
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 2: South Beach. There are other pretty good destinations. Jason Tatum,

1087
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 2: I think has been has been vocal saying he hopes

1088
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 2: the Celtics bring Lillard to Boston. How would that team look? Tatum,

1089
01:01:54,520 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, strong supporting cast, You bring up porsingis and

1090
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: then you know, maybe you go to Miami. You get

1091
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler, bam Adebayo and the Miami team and that

1092
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 2: culture that's proven that they compete every year. And I

1093
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,439
Speaker 2: think there are other teams out there that it could

1094
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 2: actually not only not only offer better deals. In Miami,

1095
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 2: they should be chasing Damian Lillard. They really should be,

1096
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: and it's their job to sell them on. Well, if

1097
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 2: you want to win a championship, you want to win

1098
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 2: a championship, come to our team. I'm gonna list three

1099
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 2: such teams that I think should put the full court

1100
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: press on and try to get see what I did there,

1101
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: and try to get Damian Lillard. We'll chop it up,

1102
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 2: but first let's go back draw GUYE. Kevin wired with

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01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 2: the latest.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. The NBA announcing on Saturday that the format the

1105
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 5: announcing the format for its new in season tournament, and

1106
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 5: it'll be played mostly in November the group stage, with

1107
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 5: the semi finals and finals taking place December seventh and ninth, respectively.

1108
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 5: In law Las Vegas, and the winning team will have

1109
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 5: each player collect five hundred thousand dollars as part of

1110
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 5: the grand prize. The Spurs are giving Greg Popovich a

1111
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 5: new five year contract. In college basketball, former West Virginia

1112
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 5: coach Bob Huggins sending a letter to the school and

1113
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 5: saying Huggins never resigned after last month's Uyis and he

1114
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 5: expects to have his job back. In soccer, Megan Rappino

1115
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 5: retiring after this year, and then the US women's national

1116
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 5: team on Sunday will play their final exhibition match before

1117
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 5: they leave for the World Cup. The US men playing

1118
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 5: the Gold Cup quarter final Sunday night against Canada at Wimbledon.

1119
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 5: Top seed the Carlos Alcarez, he won his third round

1120
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 5: match in two. Seeded Novak Djokovic, will play on Sunday.

1121
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 5: In Major League Baseball, the Tiger's throwing a combined no

1122
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 5: hitter as they beat the Blue Jays to nothing. Matt

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01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 5: Manning the winning pitcher. He walked three batters today and

1124
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 5: was removed after six and two third day, and he

1125
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 5: didn't even know that he hadn't allowed a hit up

1126
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 5: to that point. Yankees bounced back to beat the Cubs

1127
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 5: today six to three. Garret Cole now nine to two

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01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 5: on the season. The Red Sox with a ten to

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01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 5: three win over the Oakland Athletics, who are now just

1130
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 5: twenty five and sixty six on the season. James Paxton

1131
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 5: is five to one so far.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland.

1133
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 5: They're ahead in the ALES Central by just a half

1134
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 5: a game after defeating the Royals ten to six. Minnesota

1135
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 5: losing six to two to Baltimore. The Reds lead the

1136
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 5: NL Central by two games over the Brewers after they

1137
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 5: beat him eight five. La de la Cruz stole three

1138
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 5: straight bases, including home in the seventh inning. The Phillies

1139
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 5: lose to the Marlins five to three, dh Bryce Harper

1140
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 5: leaving after being hit by a pitch on the elbow.

1141
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 5: The Astros with an eighth inning solo home run to

1142
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 5: beat the Mariners three to two. Dodgers pounding the Angels

1143
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 5: ten to five, they sweep all four games in this

1144
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 5: year's Freeway Series, and the Padres bounce back to beat

1145
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 5: the Mets three to one.

1146
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: Back to you, Bernie, alrighty, thank you, thank Evan. So

1147
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 2: there are three teams I believe that absolutely should be

1148
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 2: put in the full court press on Damian Lillard. Now

1149
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: that the inevitable has happened, Lillard reaching to the conclusion

1150
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 2: that he wants out of Portland. All right, the NBA

1151
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 2: has a lot of parody, and if you saw the

1152
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 2: playoffs this last year, there wasn't any great team other

1153
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 2: than Denver, which I think was great. The question is

1154
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 2: will they be great next year? Having lost Bruce Brown

1155
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 2: and Jeff Green. But these are the three teams that

1156
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 2: makes the most sense, at least on paper and theory. Yes,

1157
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 2: first and foremost the Miami Heat. Why well, first of all,

1158
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 2: the Miami Heat has coveted Damian Lillard for a long time,

1159
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden, they got to believe

1160
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: like they might be within striking distance. The Heat reached

1161
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals in twenty twenty, they lost in Game

1162
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: seven of the Eastern Conference Finals in twenty twenty two,

1163
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: and then the Heat makes it to the finals again

1164
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three as an eight seeds minor miracle

1165
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 2: before falling to the Denver Nuggets. This is a team

1166
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: that's dancing around another championship. You gotta believe that Damian

1167
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 2: Lillard could help them immensely, especially when you consider the

1168
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 2: Heat just waved goodbye to a pair of role players

1169
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 2: that were both studs, gave Vincent and Max Strus. They

1170
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 2: took deals that got them to the Lakers and Calves.

1171
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler's not getting any younger. You bring in someone

1172
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 2: like Lillard and if you can keep taller hero and

1173
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 2: now you got your first rounder Haimi hawkwez some future

1174
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 2: draft picks, you you know, as part of the centerpieces

1175
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 2: of an offer. All of a sudden, Miami is in business.

1176
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 2: They can compete with Boston, they can compete with Philadelphia,

1177
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 2: they can you know, we'll compete with Milwaukee certainly, right

1178
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 2: this kind of trade would give the heat offense, which

1179
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 2: is fits and starts, they kind of go as Jimmy

1180
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: Butler goes. That would give them a tru tremendous infusion,

1181
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 2: a tremendous jolt on offense, and it would help their

1182
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 2: spacing because you know, you've got a team that plays

1183
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: very good defense, rock solid defense with Butler and bam Atebaio.

1184
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 2: Assuming it would be a one for one deal with

1185
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 2: no other teams involved, who else would the Blazers want.

1186
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's where it gets sticky. But Miami

1187
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 2: can't control that all they can do is put their

1188
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 2: best foot forward, and they should be absolutely doing, moving

1189
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 2: heaven and earth to try to get Damian Lillard. Now,

1190
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 2: so should the Philadelphia seventy six Ers. Remember, they made

1191
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 2: it to the Eastern Conference Finals too, made it to

1192
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 2: Game seven. Now, at the beginning of the week, James

1193
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 2: Harden was being talked about, you know connection, Well they

1194
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 2: actually they got knocked out by Boston, but they made

1195
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 2: a run toward the Eastern Conference Finals. Okay, so about

1196
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 2: a week and a half ago, James Harden was the

1197
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 2: guard being talked about in connections with the Sixers. Most

1198
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 2: would he opt out? And if he did, would that

1199
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: make it more likely he ends up with the Rockets

1200
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 2: or he'd return to Philadelphia? No longer did it? Well,

1201
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 2: he ended up opting in with the Sixers. So Harden,

1202
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 2: even though he opted in, it's a ploy because he

1203
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 2: still wants out. I don't think he's gonna get a

1204
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 2: long term offer from the Sixers in nor does he

1205
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 2: deserve one. Harden wants to end up with the Clippers again. Guys,

1206
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 2: consisted third year in a row. He not only demands out,

1207
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 2: he gets out names the team he wants to go to.

1208
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: So that leaves Philadelphia with a big question. What do

1209
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 2: you do at point guard? Could they make a run

1210
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 2: and try to get Malcolm Brogden from Boston? He supposedly available,

1211
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 2: He was offered as part of the proposed three team

1212
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 2: deal to get Percingas Okay, but wouldn't Damian Lillard make

1213
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 2: far more sense if they could do that? If that

1214
01:08:56,120 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 2: situation was douable in Philadelphia, the Sixers, if there's a

1215
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 2: possibility to get Damian Lillard, they should do it, even

1216
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:11,480
Speaker 2: if it means dealing Tyrese Maxy. It's a little complicated.

1217
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 2: I get it. Lillard's been with the Blazers eleven years,

1218
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 2: been extremely professional, the fan base, the franchise, everybody's got

1219
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 2: great respect for him. Everybody knows he wants to go

1220
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 2: to Miami. I reportedly told Blazers you know that. You

1221
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,719
Speaker 2: know he doesn't want to go anywhere else. But if

1222
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: cooler heads could prevail and Philadelphia sees a path to

1223
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 2: a championship at least to the NBA Finals with Lillard,

1224
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 2: Lillard's Heed's the same. You can't rule it out. Can't

1225
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 2: rule it out. Finally, the LA Clippers, who knows how

1226
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 2: things are going to ultimately in there for the Clippers

1227
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: this coming season. Why because it's the final guaranteed one

1228
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,799
Speaker 2: with both Kawhi Leonard and Paul George on the books.

1229
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 2: Now they have player options the following year, but they

1230
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 2: could opt out, they could become free agents, which I

1231
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 2: expect them both to do. But if the Clippers want

1232
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 2: to maximize their chances of that, do it together and

1233
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 2: upseating the other team in Los Angeles that plays in

1234
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 2: the same building, the Lakers. You would think the Clippers

1235
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 2: have massive incentive to get Damian Lillard. Acquiring him would

1236
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 2: be one clear way to help their cause to get

1237
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 2: to where they've never been where they want to go.

1238
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 2: So dearly they're an afterthought in Los Angeles. They just

1239
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 2: simply are. The question of whether Clippers could be champions

1240
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 2: or even compete for a championship anytime soon a rest

1241
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 2: and whether Kawhi Leonard is healthy and b whether Paul

1242
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 2: George is healthy. But if you bring in someone of

1243
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard's caliber, maybe, just maybe you catch lightning in

1244
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 2: a bottle. The challenge, though, is once again the Clippers

1245
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: don't have as much to offer in the way a

1246
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 2: first round picks, largely due to their maneuvering when they

1247
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 2: got Kawhi Leonard and Paul George in the first place.

1248
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 2: Now they've been reports Los Angeles might make their center

1249
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 2: of Vika Zubak. He's one of them. He's a solid,

1250
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 2: big available for a trade. So they have something to

1251
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,719
Speaker 2: offer Portland. But again the question, the eternal question, isn't

1252
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 2: going to be enough. We don't know coming up. Wasn't

1253
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 2: just the n season tournament that was announced tonight or

1254
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 2: Saturday night in Las Vegas. In terms of the tournament

1255
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 2: November third through December seventh, that the NBA is putting forth,

1256
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 2: they also announced the new rule that the Board of

1257
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 2: Governors will be voting on and it's being experimented here

1258
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 2: in the NBA Summer League, and it's something whose time

1259
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:35,240
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Speaker 2: of the hour. Do we give Joey Chestnutt enough love?

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Speaker 2: I'll explain. So the NBA Summer League is raging, just

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01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: getting started. It will continue on through all the way

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Speaker 2: till July seventeenth, when the crown of New Summer League champion.

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Speaker 2: Remember years ago, Becky Hammon was coach of the Spurs.

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Speaker 2: They won the NBA Summer League and I really thought

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Speaker 2: she was on our way to be the head coach

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01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 2: of the Spurs. Maybe not so much now, as Greg

1277
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 2: Popovich just lands a five year, eighty million dollar dealing.

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Speaker 2: If he sees it through to its completion, he'll be

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Speaker 2: seventy nine years old. Meanwhile, Becky Hammond busy winning championships

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Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas with the Las Vegas Aces. The

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01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 2: w NBA team is the I believe are pois to repeat,

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01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 2: but story for a different day. One of the other

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01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 2: things that has come out of the NBA Summer League

1284
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 2: NBA CON NBA CON, which is like the basketball version

1285
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 2: of Comic Con tremendous event, three hundred thousand square feet

1286
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 2: of just NBA decadence. They'll be there again tomorrow or

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Speaker 2: on Sunday. Is the NBA flopping rule and the anti

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01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 2: flopping penalty will be voted on by the Board of

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01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 2: Governors in the NBA here within the next couple of months.

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01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:28,480
Speaker 2: And if you are like me, and if watching basketball

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01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 2: players flop on the court drives you crazy, within the

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01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 2: NBA might have some good news for you. So during

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01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 2: this year's summer league games, the NBA will incorporate an

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01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 2: in game flopping penalty. Why they want to attempt to

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01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:50,879
Speaker 2: limit the instances and embellishment of players flopping. It's unsightly.

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01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:55,560
Speaker 2: I think it's magning. Right now, it's unclear if the

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Speaker 2: league is going to approve this rule change for the

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Speaker 2: upcoming season twenty two three four, which will start again

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Speaker 2: in November. But again, the NBA's Board of Governors will

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01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 2: vote i think before the end of July, potentially adding

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Speaker 2: the penalty to regular season games. So how will this

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01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 2: new rule work? Here are the details. This is the

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01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 2: NBA's effort to eliminate flopping. First of all, here's how

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01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 2: they explain it that the NBA announced on July fourth

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01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 2: that a flopping penalty would be in effect on a

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01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 2: provisional basis for all summer league games. Right. It just

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01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 2: like in minor league baseball. The last few years, they tested,

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01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 2: you know, putting a man on base in the tenth inning,

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01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:47,759
Speaker 2: They tested getting ready to shift, they tested the pitch clock,

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01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 2: all these things and they worked well, and so they've

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01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 2: been adopted now in Major League Baseball. Now, the explanation

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01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 2: the league gave of the rule as they try to

1313
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 2: eliminate or at least curtail flopping, is this, if an

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01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 2: official determines that a player is flopped, well, the opposing

1315
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 2: team will be awarded one free throw. They like them apples.

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01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 2: I kind of like that one. Now, if the player

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01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 2: who has flopped, he could be assessed a non unsportsmanlike

1318
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 2: technical file. You won't count as a personal file, it

1319
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 2: won't need to an ejection, but you could be assessed

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01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 2: a non unsportsmanlike technical file, or the opposing team could

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01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 2: be orded one free throw. Now here's what's interesting. You're

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01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 2: watching the flow a play, it's going back and forth

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01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 2: and somebody, you observe clearly engages in flop. Well, the

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01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 2: official will not. They don't have to stop the live

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01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 2: play in order to call the flopping violation. The official

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01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,799
Speaker 2: can wait until the next neutral opportunity, the next whistle,

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01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 2: to make the call. So the game continues. You see

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01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 2: the flop, the official makes a mental note of it,

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01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: play stops and then the call is assessed. Then the

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01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 2: other team computer a free throw. You could get a

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01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 2: non n sportsman like technical. Will you name it? Okay,

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01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 2: this isn't the first time NBA's targeted floppers. They tried

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01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 2: it in twenty twelve. The interview at that point introduced

1334
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 2: anti flopping fines that went like this, violation one, you

1335
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 2: get a warning, second violation, second through six violations you

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01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:36,839
Speaker 2: have graduating scale of fines from five thousand to ten thousand,

1337
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 2: to fifteen thousand to thirty thousand. At that time, officials

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01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,879
Speaker 2: were not able to make rulings on flopping during games.

1339
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 2: The league was determining whether a player had flopped only

1340
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 2: during video review. I like this better let the officials

1341
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 2: call the game, so it begs the eternal question, just

1342
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: exactly what the hell is flopping in the NBA? You

1343
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 2: know what it looks like how's it defined. Well, the

1344
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 2: NBA shared this definition. This is what they said, quote

1345
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 2: and I'll read their definition. A flop quote flop is

1346
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:10,879
Speaker 2: an attempt to either fool referees into calling undeserved fouls

1347
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 2: or fool fans into thinking the referees missed a foul

1348
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,799
Speaker 2: call by exaggerating the effect of contact with an opposing player.

1349
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 2: The main factor in determining whether a player committed a

1350
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 2: flop is whether his physical reaction to contact with another

1351
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 2: player is inconsistent with what would have been expected given

1352
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 2: the force or direction of the contact. For example, a

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01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 2: player will be considered to have committed a quote flop

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01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 2: if he falls to the floor following say, minimal contact,

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01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 2: or he lunges in a direction completely different direction from

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01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 2: the direction of the contact. I remember Lebron in one

1357
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 2: of his postgame pontifications, said, or we never flop, none

1358
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 2: of my team's ever done that. Then I saw a

1359
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 2: video montage about a week later he was doing it

1360
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 2: all over the place in Miami back in twenty eleven.

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01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 2: He faked like you got hitting the jaw with an

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01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 2: elbow flop, flew backwards. The replay showed he didn't even

1363
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 2: make contact, so this is better for the NBA coming

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01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 2: out is Joey Chestnut get enough love. We're gonna give

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01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 2: it to him. Keep it locked. You listen to the

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Speaker 2: buying should be. So Nathan's hot dog eating contest is

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01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 2: in the rearview mirror Joey Chestnut. He's now garnered his

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01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 2: sixteenth mustard belt, fifteen to the last sixteen. And it's

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01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 2: interesting because, look, I don't know if hot dog eating

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01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 2: is a sports. I used to have a joke that

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01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 2: here's how you know something's a sport, because if you

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01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 2: can pull a grind, trash talk, or bet on it,

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01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 2: it's a sport. So I guess we'll debate whether or

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01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 2: not hot dog eating is a sport. I know that

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01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 2: recently many luminaries like Mad Dog Russo and OJ Simpson said,

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01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 2: you've got to be kidding me. Russo said, I would

1384
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 2: watch that damn event if it was in my backyard,

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01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 2: I'd draw the blinds. Well, thirty thousand people show up

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01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 2: to Cony Allen, they sell three thousand dogs there, millions

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01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 2: watch on TV. And then the second part of the

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01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 2: question is is Joey Chestnut an athlete? All right? Well,

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01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:46,560
Speaker 2: every famous athlete's famous because they've achieved on parallel dominance

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01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 2: in their field. Michael Phelps, swimmer twenty eight Olympic gold medals,

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01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 2: the most decorated Olympian of all time. Usain Bolt helds

1392
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 2: multiple sprint world records, fastest man on the planet. When

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01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 2: Joey Chestnut, he's a major league eating chamampion and he's

1394
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 2: got all these titles, and beyond the athletic achievements, these

1395
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 2: athletes have left a lasting impact on society. Otherwise people wouldn't,

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01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 2: you know, they wouldn't talk about it as much. It's clear, right,

1397
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 2: And Joey Chestnut trains, I mean these guys train. He

1398
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 2: has to do all kinds of cardio, all kinds of weightlifting.

1399
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 2: He really does. And then these isometrics on their jaws

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01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 2: so that you can, you know, you can munch down

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01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 2: on the you know, sixty two hot dogs in ten minutes,

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01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: which is what Joey Chestnutt did last Tuesday to win.

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01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 2: And I guess, you know, at the risk of taking

1404
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 2: this too far, and really it's not that big idea

1405
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 2: whether it's a you know, it's it's a sport or

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01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 2: whether they're athletes. Competitive eating is typically an individual sport, Okay,

1407
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 2: so it's one person against the competition. And again, chestnut

1408
01:20:56,439 --> 01:21:00,040
Speaker 2: has won Nathan's famous hot dog eating contest fifty in

1409
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 2: the last sixteen years, seven years consecutively. He's ruling in

1410
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 2: his event, sport, competition, whatever you want to call it,

1411
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:13,839
Speaker 2: in an era where we recognize other people who dominate,

1412
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 2: like this, is Joey chestnut getting enough love? I'm being

1413
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 2: serious here. How about Rafael Nadal? In an eighteen year

1414
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 2: stretch from five to twenty twenty two, Rafael Nadal won

1415
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 2: fourteen French Open titles. Joey Chestnutt has won the competition

1416
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 2: sixteen times. Hell Kelly Slater World surf Lead crowns between

1417
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four and twenty eleven. Eleven World surf lead crowns.

1418
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:50,679
Speaker 2: Joey Chestnutt sixteen championships. Remember the name Martinez Navratolova. Between

1419
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy eight nineteen ninety she won nine Wimbledon singles titles,

1420
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 2: including six in a row. From eighty two to eighty seven,

1421
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 2: Huge Joey Chestnutt has won six ten titles, including seven

1422
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 2: in a row. And He's not done. He's gonna be

1423
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 2: back next year. Tiger Woods won at least one major

1424
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 2: championship every year except for two between nineteen ninety seven

1425
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 2: and two thousand and eight. That included when Tiger had

1426
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: the Tiger Slam in two thousand and two thousand and one,

1427
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 2: where he held all four majors at one time. Tiger

1428
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 2: has won I believe fifteen majors in his career. One

1429
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 2: catch Jack Jackass seventeen or eighteen. Tiger Woods dominant, Joey

1430
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 2: Chestnutt sixteen titles, and Team sports Right Bill Russell he

1431
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 2: won nine titles in the NBA. Andre Richard with the

1432
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 2: Montreal Actually Russell won eleven eleven. Andre Richard, who played

1433
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 2: for the Montreal Canadians eleven titles. You'll get Bear won

1434
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 2: ten World Series. Tom Brady seven super Bowls once again.

1435
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 2: Joey Chestnut sixteen, So he's thirty nine years old. He's

1436
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 2: not done yet. And it's not just that Joey Chestnut wins.

1437
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 2: He completely dominates and laps the damn field. It's like

1438
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: if Brady would have won every Super Bowl by two

1439
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 2: or three touchdowns, or Bill Russell would have won every

1440
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 2: one of his championships by twenty points. The ten highest

1441
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 2: individual totals in terms of performance eating hot dogs at

1442
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 2: that competition belonged to Joey Chestnut set the world record

1443
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,799
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one with seventy six. That's his best.

1444
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 2: But Joey Chestnut, He's eaten more than seventy hot dogs

1445
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: and buns six times. No one else has done it

1446
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 2: even once. And Joey Chestnut doesn't just devour hot dogs.

1447
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 2: By the way, and I'm gonna get to this in

1448
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 2: a minute, you'll get a kick out of it. He

1449
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 2: holds major league eating records in fifty four different categories.

1450
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 2: You know, one hundred and eighty two chicken wings in

1451
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,799
Speaker 2: thirty minutes, forty one hard boiled legs in eight minutes,

1452
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 2: forty seven grilled cheese sandwiches in ten minutes, you're like

1453
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,719
Speaker 2: twinkies hit one hundred and twenty one of them six minutes.

1454
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 2: By the way, going back to two thousand and five, cumulatively,

1455
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 2: this blows me away. Cumulatively, Joey Chestnut, he's eating two

1456
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen hot dogs and buns since two thousand

1457
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 2: and five. That's over what seventeen eighteen competitions. And by

1458
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 2: the way, he didn't participate in every event since till five. Okay,

1459
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:37,600
Speaker 2: he missed a couple of years. But despite not participating,

1460
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 2: if you add up everybody else's cumulative performance and how

1461
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 2: many hot dogs they've eaten since two thousand and five,

1462
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 2: even though Jay Joey Chestnut missed the competition a couple

1463
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 2: of years, he's eaten six hundred and ninety two more

1464
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 2: hot dogs than anybody else, the closest second person in

1465
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 2: those events. Yes, by the way, here's some more fun

1466
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 2: facts for you. The competition dogs from Nathan's they're six

1467
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 2: and three quarter inches long. The total length of hot

1468
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 2: dogs eaten by Joey Chestnut equates to seven thousand, seven

1469
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy six inches or six hundred and forty

1470
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 2: eight feet. How long is six hundred and forty eight feet.

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01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 2: Of course, there's more than two football fields, but we're

1472
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 2: in baseball season. What's the distance to center field? From

1473
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 2: home plate to centerfield and city field in Yankee Stadium

1474
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 2: both four hundred and eight feet. This is six hundred

1475
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 2: and forty eight feet lined up of hot dogs that

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01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 2: Joey Chestnut is eating. The longest to home run Aaron

1477
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 2: Judge has ever hit four hundred and ninety six feet

1478
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,839
Speaker 2: Joey Chestnut six hundred and forty eight feet of hot dogs.

1479
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 2: The height of the Statue of Liberty three hundred and

1480
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 2: five feet. Joey Chestnut six hundred and forty eight feet

1481
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 2: of hot dogs. By the way, you probably know each

1482
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 2: Nathan's hot dog in the competition weigh it's about fifty

1483
01:25:56,320 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 2: six grams. That means Chestnut in his tenure in the competition,

1484
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 2: won't he's eaten one hundred and forty two pounds of

1485
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 2: hot dogs. I just threw up by my mouth saying

1486
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 2: that one hundred and forty two pounds of hot dogs

1487
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 2: during his fifteen performances on July fourth. Therefore, Chestnut, he's

1488
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 2: basically eaten in hot dogs. The weight equivalent to the

1489
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:24,839
Speaker 2: average UFC featherweight fighter. Now in twenty twenty two, Chestnut

1490
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 2: ate sixty three hot dogs and buns. In twenty twenty three,

1491
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 2: he ate sixty two hot dogs and buns each. A

1492
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 2: mounts to about two hundred ninety calories. Meeting the Joy

1493
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:39,759
Speaker 2: Chestnut Last Tuesday, while you watched Joey Chestnut in ten minutes,

1494
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 2: he consumed eighteen thousand, two hundred and seventy calories in

1495
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:50,839
Speaker 2: ten minutes. My head just exploded saying that in his career,

1496
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 2: in his competing career, just since two thousand and five,

1497
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 2: Joy Chestnut, he's eaten three hundred and thirty six thousand

1498
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 2: calories in high dogs alone. Now you hear these stories

1499
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 2: of gargantuan eaters. Right when Michael Phelps he was in

1500
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 2: training to win the gold medal in the two thousand

1501
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 2: and eight Olympics, he was eating ten thousand calories a day.

1502
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 2: You saw it, he talked about it. He'd eat a

1503
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 2: whole large pizza that he'd get done and eat another one.

1504
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 2: And it's crazy, ten thousand calories in a day from

1505
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 2: the time he got up to the time he went

1506
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 2: to bed, Joey Chestnut pounded eighteen two hundred and seventy

1507
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 2: calories in ten minutes. By the way, polar bears, what

1508
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 2: are those sons of guns? Weigh seven eight hundred and

1509
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 2: nine hundred pounds. The average polar bear eats about thirteen

1510
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 2: thousand calories a day. Joey Chestnut eighteen two hundred and

1511
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 2: seventy calories in ten minutes. Now I mentioned some of

1512
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 2: the other names. You know, Tiger Woods, Raffie on the

1513
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 2: Doal Martine, and avatil Over. These are people that very

1514
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 2: accomplished people. Right, give a little love, Joey Chestnut. How

1515
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 2: would you like it if your name is Jeffrey Esper

1516
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 2: and you ate fifty one hot dogs but you finished

1517
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 2: in second by twenty five? Nick Wherry the husband of

1518
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 2: the female competitor that dominates the AWARLD of women's competitive eating,

1519
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 2: Mickey Suto, who was right here in Las Vegas. His

1520
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 2: name is Nick Wherry. Nice performance forty four good enough

1521
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 2: for fourth place, James Webb forty two. Can you imagine

1522
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 2: eating thirty two hot dogs and finishing in fifth place?

1523
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 2: Fifteenth place? Incredible? So again, not only is Joey Chestnut winning,

1524
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 2: he's dominating and lapping the damn field. Now, some of

1525
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 2: his other eating exploits. We're not gonna give all fifty

1526
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 2: four records, but put this in your pipe and smoke

1527
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 2: it all right. You like hard boiled eggs, Yeah, Chestnuts

1528
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 2: got the record, one hundred and forty one hard boiled

1529
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 2: eggs in eight minutes. You like Taco bell tacos. Joey

1530
01:28:56,920 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 2: Chestnuts got the record soft shell beef tacos fifty three

1531
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 2: in ten minutes. Chicken wings one hundred and eighty two

1532
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 2: and thirty minutes, Twinkies one hundred and twenty one and

1533
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 2: six minutes. Big Max, who doesn't like a big mac?

1534
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,799
Speaker 2: He ate thirty two Big Max in thirty eight minutes.

1535
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 2: You're like, hey, he's equal opportunity. You like Tomali's one

1536
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 2: hundred and two Tomali's in twelve minutes, Pastrami sandwiches. Maybe

1537
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 2: you make your way to Cat's Delicatessen in New York

1538
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 2: City when Harry met Sally Great Scenemen, Billy Crystal in there,

1539
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 2: Meg Ryan he ate twenty five for Strami sandwiches in

1540
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 2: ten minutes. Of course, you gotta have a little desert

1541
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 2: if you're gonna do that, So how about twenty six

1542
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 2: ice cream sandwiches in six minutes? Or how about two

1543
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty seven hostess donets in six minutes? Yeah,

1544
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 2: prob's why not one hundred and sixty five and eight minutes.

1545
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 2: Those pepperoni rolls I was in the story. They I

1546
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 2: saw an endcap. Those big long they look great, those

1547
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:03,639
Speaker 2: long pepperoni roles. They look like they're what a kid's

1548
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 2: baseball bat. That you'd buy a five year old. Forty

1549
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 2: three of those in ten minutes. That's just craziness. Okay.

1550
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 2: By the way, if you wanted to bet Joey chest

1551
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 2: not to win, which you did, you had to bet

1552
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars to win one hundred five hundred to win,

1553
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 2: ten fifty to win one. Because he's dominated. So I

1554
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 2: don't know, we'll never solve the argument as to whether

1555
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:30,640
Speaker 2: he's an athlete. His performance requires a degree of athleticism.

1556
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 2: Maybe not as a run and jump athlete, but the

1557
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 2: human body is not made to do these types of things.

1558
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 2: So the fact that you do is such raw efficiency

1559
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 2: and blow away the competition year after year over a

1560
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 2: fifteen year period. Says something. It's hot dog eating a sport.

1561
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a sport or not, but

1562
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 2: don't tell that to the people who compete. I get O. J.

1563
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 2: Simpson thinks they're all full of crap, and so does

1564
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 2: Mad Dog Russo. I respect their opinion, but I will

1565
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 2: say this, in any endeavor in life, when you hit

1566
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 2: that kind of excellence, you got to ask yourself. Are

1567
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 2: we giving Joey Chestnut the love? Because people watch this event,

1568
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 2: it's a spectacle of the highest order, George say the

1569
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:13,679
Speaker 2: announcer with a straw hat. Thirty thousand people there, Cony,

1570
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 2: Allen and Brooklyn becomes a spectacle. Millions watch it on TV.

1571
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you can make fun of it, but it's

1572
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 2: it's here, It's here to stay. Coming out, we're gonna

1573
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 2: talk to the crew. Do they think Joey Chestnut's an athlete?

1574
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,680
Speaker 2: Do they think hot dog meetings a sport? Are the

1575
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 2: accolades I gave Joey Chestnut? Are they fair? Is he

1576
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 2: worthy of those accolades? Let's get Kevin and Patrick's thoughts

1577
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Speaker 2: match we debate Joy chest Coming up, I'm Bernie Frattle

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Keep it locked right here. You're listening

1585
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Speaker 2: to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All

1586
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Speaker 2: right back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio

1587
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Speaker 2: Company Live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios,

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Speaker 2: Tirac dot Com take you up to three am Pacific,

1589
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 2: six am Eastern. A lot of stuff to get to,

1590
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Speaker 2: including top of the hour two am Pacific, five am Eastern,

1591
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Speaker 2: the Dance Sensation Sweep of the Nation. What kind of

1592
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 2: brand new fool you? Followed by what my name boy

1593
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 2: got a doozy tonight? Before I bring in Kevin and

1594
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,719
Speaker 2: Patrick to get their thoughts on Joey Chestnut. Good tweet

1595
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 2: from Mark and Minnesota. Is Joey Chestnut an athlete thinking

1596
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 2: face well? An ASCAR driver just sits in the car

1597
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 2: and turns left for a few hours. A jockey is

1598
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,720
Speaker 2: just a ballast on a horse who does all the

1599
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 2: heavy lifting during a race. Anyone who can train their

1600
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 2: body to form at that level is an athlete. I

1601
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 2: think that's fair, all right, So Kevin Wyrett, let's start

1602
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 2: with you. First of all, do you even watch the

1603
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 2: hot dog eating contest?

1604
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:11,599
Speaker 4: Oh?

1605
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:13,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a lot of funny.

1606
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, go, you go, man.

1607
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 5: So I won't call Joey Chessnunt an athlete, despite the

1608
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 5: fact that I think it's a fun contest. It's really entertaining.

1609
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 5: But being an athlete involves physical fitness and being able

1610
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 5: to compete at a high level. Compete at I guess,

1611
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 5: at least a reasonable level at something that requires a

1612
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:42,600
Speaker 5: physical ability, and I don't consider eating to be a

1613
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 5: specialty skill that requires a reasonable physical ability. Personally. I

1614
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,719
Speaker 5: know he can eat more than just about anyone else,

1615
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 5: but I don't see that as something that qualifies as

1616
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 5: a sport.

1617
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:00,639
Speaker 2: I want to read a tweet here from a gentleman,

1618
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 2: Johnny Hugh Bernie. I take a hashtag sad he's ripping me.

1619
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 2: I volunteer at a food bank a couple times a

1620
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 2: month with two of my granddaughters. The folks I see

1621
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 2: there would love to have just one of those hot dogs.

1622
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 2: To compare mister Chestnut to Rafael that he calls him

1623
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 2: mister Chestnut to Rafael the dollar Tiger Woods is pathetic.

1624
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 2: They puke it all up later. Pathetic. I don't know

1625
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 2: if they puke it up later or not. Look, buddy,

1626
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:26,600
Speaker 2: this is sports talk radio. I've never completely reconciled the

1627
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,600
Speaker 2: wasting the food either. This is a solvable problem in

1628
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 2: the world. But we're doing sports talk radio here. We're

1629
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 2: not trying to solve the world's problems. And if you

1630
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 2: compare Joey Chestnut's record in a sanctioned event it's been

1631
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 2: popular for years that Americans love to watch, then you

1632
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:47,719
Speaker 2: can compare him to those other quote unquote athletes. However,

1633
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 2: your point is taken. It's always it's bothered me as

1634
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 2: the richest country in the world that some people go

1635
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 2: to bed hungry. Thanks for listening, That's what I would say.

1636
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 2: All right, So let's get to you. Patrick Sweeka. Do

1637
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 2: you even watch the competition?

1638
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 4: You know what, Bernie, I actually do not watch the competition,

1639
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 4: just because one, I'm not a big hot dog eating guy.

1640
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 4: I don't like hot dogs. Like a lot of food,

1641
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 4: just not hot dogs. And two, the second I see someone,

1642
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:15,640
Speaker 4: you know, maybe getting a bit of a you know,

1643
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 4: their lunch is coming out, I'm out like it's just

1644
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 4: I got a week's stomach for that, so I can't

1645
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 4: do it all.

1646
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 2: Right, Well, what do you think of Joey chess Night

1647
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,719
Speaker 2: as a human being? Because he's been making all the rounds,

1648
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 2: been on Pat McAfee, he's been a lot of TV shows.

1649
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 2: He was part of an ESPN thirty for thirty years

1650
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 2: ago with him in Kobayashi. I don't really don't get

1651
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,680
Speaker 2: the world of competitive eating either. And it's not just

1652
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 2: hot dogs. He holds fifty four eating records and oh,

1653
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 2: by the way, on Pat McAfee show last week, he

1654
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 2: said he wants to set the record now for I

1655
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 2: think crab legs, or he wants to go to Alaska

1656
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 2: and do that, or sushi. So what do you just

1657
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 2: tell me what you think of Joey Chestnut as human being?

1658
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 2: Because the guy makes five hundred grand a year doing this.

1659
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, with that, Bernie, like, I'm gonna kind of

1660
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:03,839
Speaker 4: actually like jump on Kevin's answer, but with a twist

1661
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 4: to it. So like, I do not think that Joey

1662
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 4: Chestnut is an athlete either, with the whole all he's

1663
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 4: doing is, you know, he's eating food, you know, an

1664
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 4: athlete to someone that you know, trains physical fitness. Now,

1665
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 4: I know he probably trains and press his stomach. Yeah, yeah,

1666
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 4: he trains in preps the stomach, I'm sure.

1667
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 3: I mean not just.

1668
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:27,719
Speaker 2: That right, jaws, legs back, I mean it's.

1669
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 4: A whole process, right right, and and power to him

1670
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 4: and all stuff. But that's also no different from like,

1671
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 4: you know, people like training your brain, like you know

1672
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 4: you have the the e gamers and all that stuff too.

1673
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:40,679
Speaker 4: They're not athletes. They're just really good at video games.

1674
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 2: Now.

1675
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 4: I'm not going to compare those two to each other.

1676
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 4: They're quite different. But I will say this about Joey

1677
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 4: chessn't now despite him not in my eyes not being

1678
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 4: an athlete, just based on the whole food prerecquisites that

1679
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 4: me and Kevin were saying, I will say this, though

1680
01:36:54,760 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 4: he won, is an absolute phenomenal competitor. Not an athlete, fleet,

1681
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 4: but competitor. Absolutely. That dude can compete. Uh, you know,

1682
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,600
Speaker 4: like his butt off, he's he's doing stuff with like

1683
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 4: you know, he's got an insanely inhuman stomach that can

1684
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 4: intake just some food. Like, I mean, you can train

1685
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 4: your stomach all day. I don't know if I'm ever

1686
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 4: gonna be like able to do what Joey Chestnutt did,

1687
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 4: even if I went on his training regime. I think

1688
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 4: that guy's just built different with the stomach.

1689
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 2: Well he's he's not normal, okay. And his desire to

1690
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 2: want to do this, and again he makes he's made.

1691
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 2: He makes half a million a year doing this. Uh

1692
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 2: is I guess, you know, to each his own. Well,

1693
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 2: I weigh in on this is. I'm I'm a believer

1694
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 2: in uh that the fact and the fact that I

1695
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 2: respect excellence in all walks of life. And I may

1696
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 2: have I may not agree. Uh. And there are many

1697
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 2: aspects about this. This is kind of repulsive. For instance,

1698
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 2: just dipping the bun and water. You're trying that one?

1699
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:00,480
Speaker 2: Just one try that once for the hell of it.

1700
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:01,599
Speaker 2: It tastes terrible.

1701
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 3: It's disgusting, disgusting.

1702
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the whole thing. And I don't want to

1703
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 2: picture what happens later, you know. I guess the bottom

1704
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:11,719
Speaker 2: line is, I don't want to see how the sausage

1705
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 2: is made. For lack of a better term, but look,

1706
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 2: this is again, these are sanctioned events that are recognized,

1707
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 2: they're accepted, they're highly popular. They've become romanticized. This is

1708
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 2: a spectacle of the highest order. Even George Shade, the

1709
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:30,720
Speaker 2: guy with the straw hat and the way he announces

1710
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 2: the event. By the way, interesting tweak here from corbel

1711
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 2: Reno Kia if I spell it pronounced that right? He says, Bernie,

1712
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 2: the old ABC Wide World of Sports program used to

1713
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 2: show arm wrestling. Is that a sport? I say, yeah,

1714
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:49,879
Speaker 2: it's actually probably a sport. Kevin Wyatt, what do you say.

1715
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 5: Arm wrestling? Yeah, I'd say that's a sport.

1716
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 2: Physical you got to train for that, right, Yeah.

1717
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 5: I mean I couldn't probably beat a professional arm wrestler. Actually,

1718
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 5: I would say I definitely wouldn't beat one, So yeah,

1719
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 5: I'd say that's a sport.

1720
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 2: These guys are freakishly they're strong, and they're technique and

1721
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 2: all that. And I mean I've seen arm wrestling competitions

1722
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 2: where someone snaps the wrist. It's crazy. Breaks the risk, Patrick,

1723
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:17,719
Speaker 2: you get the last word on this is arm wrestling

1724
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:18,440
Speaker 2: a sport?

1725
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 3: Very much?

1726
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 4: So, I believe arm wrestling is definitely a sport, and

1727
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 4: people that would be arm arm wrestlers, let's go with

1728
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 4: that as the term. They would be athletes in that

1729
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 4: regard because they're training, you know, your bicep, your trycep,

1730
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 4: pretty much your shoulders like that, you're reading your whole

1731
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 4: arm on that and not just that though, like you know,

1732
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 4: you're competing against one another with that. And just also,

1733
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:42,640
Speaker 4: it's got the term wrestler. You know, it's got an

1734
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:48,000
Speaker 4: arm and wrestler. Wrestlers are athletes too, So yeah, no, absolutely, all.

1735
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 2: Right, good stuff coming up. You know, there's been much

1736
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 2: made about the NFL players getting suspended for betting at

1737
01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:00,760
Speaker 2: team facilities, or betting on an app or breaking one

1738
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 2: of the six NFL rules that the league has put

1739
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:07,240
Speaker 2: out there. But I don't think the NFL has a problem. Okay,

1740
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 2: we're talking about ten out of seventeen hundred players, and

1741
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:12,479
Speaker 2: it's a tempest in a teapot because they got this

1742
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 2: under control. It's just sensationalized. However, there's another trend involving

1743
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 2: college athletes and gambling that is far more troublesome. This

1744
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 2: is not what you think it is. You've got to

1745
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 2: hear me make the distinction. But first, let's go back

1746
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 2: to our guy, Kevin Wired with the latest.

1747
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Saturday, a day full of baseball action and that

1748
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 5: sensational rookie Ellie Dela Cruz had another day in which

1749
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 5: he just took our breath away and how he played.

1750
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 5: He's stole three bases, including.

1751
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 8: Home, He'll steel third base Ellie Daala Cruz roll without

1752
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 8: even a throw.

1753
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 5: The third baseman Brian Brian Anderson.

1754
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 2: Didn't even go Now, I was coming home.

1755
01:40:58,360 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 3: Henny's safe.

1756
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1757
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:04,479
Speaker 5: That was the Reds Radio network there with the call

1758
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 5: as Cincinnati now ahead in the Nlcentral by two games

1759
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:11,519
Speaker 5: over the Brewers after they beat them today eight to five.

1760
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:13,400
Speaker 5: Of the Elie de la Cruz getting one of those

1761
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 5: runs on a stolen base, the Tigers getting a combined

1762
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 5: no hitter and a two nothing victory over the Blue Jays,

1763
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:24,799
Speaker 5: and Matt Manning this winning pitcher, he walked three batters

1764
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 5: and after getting taken out after six to two thirds innings,

1765
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:30,639
Speaker 5: didn't even know he hadn't allowed a hit, the Yankees

1766
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 5: beating the Cubs six to three. Garret Cole now nine

1767
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 5: to two this season, Red Sox a ten to three

1768
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 5: win over the Oakland Athletics. The Guardians now leave the

1769
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 5: AL Central by a half game after they beat the

1770
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 5: Warriorals ten to six. The Twins losing six to two

1771
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 5: to the Baltimore Orioles the Phillies losing five to three

1772
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:51,559
Speaker 5: to two the Marlins, Bryce Harper having to leave the

1773
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:54,679
Speaker 5: game after he was hit by a pitch on the elbow.

1774
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 5: The Astros with an eighth inning home run as they

1775
01:41:57,160 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 5: get bass the Mariners three to two. They found the

1776
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 5: Angels ten to five, sweeping all four games in this

1777
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:06,560
Speaker 5: year's Freeway Series, and the Padres they bounced back to

1778
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 5: beat the Mets three to one. The NBA on Saturday

1779
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 5: announcing the format for its new in season tournament. Both

1780
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 5: the Western and Eastern Conference will each have three groups

1781
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 5: of five teams each. Most of the group play will

1782
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 5: take place in November. They'll have the semi finals and

1783
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 5: finals on December seventh and ninth, respectively, in Las Vegas.

1784
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:31,280
Speaker 5: As for the grand prize, what the get for winning,

1785
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:35,560
Speaker 5: Each player on the winning team gets five hundred thousand dollars.

1786
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:38,760
Speaker 5: Greg Papovich is getting a five year contract from the

1787
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:42,639
Speaker 5: San Antonio Spurs. And in college basketball, a lawyer for

1788
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 5: Bob Huggins, a former coach at West Virginia, sending a

1789
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 5: letter to the school saying Huggins actually never resign after

1790
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 5: last month's diuyist and that he expects to have his

1791
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 5: job back back to you, Ernie.

1792
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 2: I'm going to make a prediction about Bob Huggins. They're

1793
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to hug it out. Thanks, folks.

1794
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 2: I'm opening up for Shecky Green and the Catskills next week.

1795
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 2: All right, And a more serious note, nice, nicely done. Mark.

1796
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:12,600
Speaker 2: On an more serious note, Okay, I mentioned it was

1797
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 2: a bit of a word salad college athletes gambling and such. Okay,

1798
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 2: here's where I was actually going with this, because his

1799
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 2: legalized sports betting has spread across the country in the

1800
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 2: last five years. This is a trend I find very bolishing.

1801
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 2: Multiple college athletes have faced social media harassment from gamblers

1802
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 2: angry at results. You know what I mean by that.

1803
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:43,480
Speaker 2: So there was one particular chronicled sort of example. TCU

1804
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:49,439
Speaker 2: played Gonzaga and basketball last March. Maybe it was February,

1805
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 2: February March somewhere in that area, and uh and and

1806
01:43:55,560 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 2: Gonzaga won eight four to eighty one. And Zaga I believe,

1807
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 2: was a six point favorite in the game. And at

1808
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 2: the end of the game, a gentleman by the name

1809
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 2: of Damian Baugh who was playing for TCU. He had

1810
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 2: a three pointer at the buzzer that cut the that

1811
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 2: cut the the the Gonzaga margin from six to three,

1812
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 2: so instead of winning eighty forty one, Gonzaga won eighty

1813
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 2: four to seventy eight. So the shot, the three pointer

1814
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 2: that he made was really irrelevant to the outcome of

1815
01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 2: the actual game, but crucial to a lot of folks

1816
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:37,759
Speaker 2: who bet the game. Now. At first, it was interesting

1817
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 2: because the team manager showed him a video of fans

1818
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:49,720
Speaker 2: in a sportsbook celebrating Boss three pointer. Why because Gonzaga

1819
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 2: was favorite to beat TCU by four points. So when

1820
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 2: Ball made that shot, if you had TCU, you covered

1821
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 2: the spread. People who bet on the again, Zag got bulldogs,

1822
01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 2: though they went from winners to losers in less than

1823
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 2: a second, and all of a sudden, Boss Instagram was

1824
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:13,639
Speaker 2: flooded with direct messages from angry betters. That's a little freaky, okay.

1825
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 2: Sports betting got legalized in twenty eighteen with the overturning

1826
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 2: of past but in May of twenty eighteen, we are

1827
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 2: now hearing that student athletes regularly receive abusive messages from

1828
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:31,759
Speaker 2: gamblers on social media, including death wishes, threats of violence,

1829
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:35,240
Speaker 2: and it's my understanding. According to reports, an FBI agent

1830
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 2: told ESPN it considers the threats on athletes on social

1831
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 2: media to be quote, a growing issue, And in March

1832
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 2: there were a group of officials and gambling regulators and

1833
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:53,919
Speaker 2: sportsbook executives. They were meeting how to deal with this problem.

1834
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 2: So collegies are kind of stressed out about it. They're

1835
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 2: paying attention to this and athletes being abused. I think

1836
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 2: the risk management aspect of this. When you are dealing

1837
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:12,680
Speaker 2: with folks that are perhaps problem gamblers, this becomes a

1838
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:18,360
Speaker 2: very serious issue. Okay, everybody played sports growing up. You

1839
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 2: played at the final whistle, you played at the end

1840
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:27,880
Speaker 2: of the game. However, when the outcome is far greater,

1841
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 2: if far more greater importance, the outcome of the game,

1842
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 2: or what becomes far more greater importance, is whether or

1843
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 2: not you cover the spread. Now we're on really sort

1844
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 2: of unchartered territory and one of the law of unattended consequences. Okay,

1845
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:45,240
Speaker 2: Back in twenty eighteen, the Supreme Court when they overturned

1846
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:50,960
Speaker 2: the federal Statute on sports betting. At that point, it

1847
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 2: was determined that across the United States the entire population,

1848
01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 2: only about one to two percent had access to legals

1849
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 2: sorts books in their respective state. Five years later, with

1850
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 2: thirty four states on board. More in the wings, you

1851
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 2: now have fifty six percent of Americans who live in

1852
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:14,200
Speaker 2: a jurisdiction with legal sports betting. So when athletes received

1853
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:21,960
Speaker 2: social media abuse before, primarily in the men's game, it

1854
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,880
Speaker 2: was looked at. But it's now escalated so much more

1855
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:28,919
Speaker 2: and including even women's sports, that you've got a situation

1856
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 2: now where perhaps laws need to be be enacted. Okay,

1857
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 2: You've got people, they make it about themselves, they attack kids.

1858
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 2: These are kids, basically, they're usually the vast majority of

1859
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:43,600
Speaker 2: college athletes are under the major twenty one soever twenty one,

1860
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:47,520
Speaker 2: twenty two. But there have been some pretty salacious examples.

1861
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 2: One that was reported by ESPN about four months ago

1862
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 2: and twenty nineteen, according to court records, a gentleman by

1863
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 2: the name of Benjamin Pats apparently he was a better

1864
01:47:57,400 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 2: twenty three years old, he sent threatening direct messages from

1865
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 2: an anonymous account to an unnamed Pepperdine basketball player. Now

1866
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:07,559
Speaker 2: you better buckle up. I'm just gonna read these quote.

1867
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 2: Your throat will be severed open with a dull knife,

1868
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:13,320
Speaker 2: your entire family will be beheaded, and burned alive. Watch

1869
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 2: your back, you're a dead man Waukee. Now, this gentleman

1870
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 2: might have been angry about losing a bet, or maybe

1871
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 2: he's trying to influence upcoming events he bet on, but

1872
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 2: according to court records, he pleaded guilty to one count

1873
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 2: of transmitting threats in interstate and foreign commerce and was

1874
01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 2: sentenced to thirty six months of probation. A gentleman who

1875
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 2: played for Furman University a man's basketball player, he spoke

1876
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 2: anonymously that he received multiple abusive social media messages. He says,

1877
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 2: I get him all the time, even after wins, because

1878
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 2: if we don't cover the spread, the abuse escalates, and

1879
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 2: if the game is on national TV, the abuse escalates

1880
01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 2: even further. People will say, you all suck you all

1881
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:56,680
Speaker 2: blew it. You lost me a bunch of money. You

1882
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 2: can't even make an effing layup. Your mom should have

1883
01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:02,160
Speaker 2: swallowed you. Some of the messages, by the way, are

1884
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 2: just crazy, gross, okay. A gentleman named Adam Flagler, who

1885
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:11,679
Speaker 2: played for Baylor, says he's not only received abusive direct

1886
01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:16,679
Speaker 2: messages on Instagram, he's received racial slurs, including the inWORD.

1887
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 2: All right, and I think he was very dignified and

1888
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 2: sharing his report with ESPN. He said, Look, I'm not

1889
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 2: proud of saying I've experienced angry messages, but I have.

1890
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 2: I've been threatened for my life. Man. He told me

1891
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:31,160
Speaker 2: I should never play basketball again. They say things about

1892
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 2: my mom, anything they think will get to me. So

1893
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 2: how do you combat this? His girlfriend is starting to

1894
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 2: delete these messages. But you know, he said, one message

1895
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:46,439
Speaker 2: that he showed ESPN said quote, I hope you die.

1896
01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 2: You mfer all right? So again, there was a conference

1897
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:54,360
Speaker 2: call in March to discuss this. There were you know,

1898
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:58,280
Speaker 2: these conferences are now on high alert. My buddy Matt Holt,

1899
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 2: you've heard on this radio show. So the president of

1900
01:50:01,640 --> 01:50:04,719
Speaker 2: US Integrity said, he said that the uptake of incidence

1901
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:08,400
Speaker 2: has prompted him to organize a conference call, and there

1902
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 2: was all kinds of passion and response. He made him

1903
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:13,200
Speaker 2: realize that may be a rare issue, but it unites

1904
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:16,200
Speaker 2: all sides of sports and gambling industries because anybody who

1905
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 2: is harassing a student athlete based on betting, that's an

1906
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:24,400
Speaker 2: indication this individual has a real gambling problem that they

1907
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 2: need help. They need to not continue to actively participate

1908
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 2: in any illegal gambling or otherwise because when it gets

1909
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:37,719
Speaker 2: to that level, you have very serious situations and seemingly

1910
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:42,880
Speaker 2: desperate people. And so to look at the NFL and

1911
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:46,679
Speaker 2: sort of surmise that they have a problem that pails

1912
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 2: a comparison to what you're hearing about here. Okay, a

1913
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 2: lot of experts who are starting to win in this

1914
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:57,840
Speaker 2: new phenomenon of legalized sports betting say it's this new

1915
01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 2: wave of betters. Their theory is that there's kind of

1916
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:04,480
Speaker 2: been a new wave of betters that are having difficulty

1917
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:08,559
Speaker 2: enduring the emotional swings that gambling can produce, and so

1918
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:11,000
Speaker 2: they need to lash out, and they need to lash

1919
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:14,599
Speaker 2: out and find someone to blame. And it's not an

1920
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 2: entirely new phenomenon, but given the advent of social media

1921
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:21,280
Speaker 2: and access, you can literally you reach out to someone

1922
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 2: directly without their permission, and so it becomes crazy. Now

1923
01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:27,559
Speaker 2: we all know, no one likes to lose, no one

1924
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:29,559
Speaker 2: likes to have a touchdown callback. And I will tell

1925
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:32,200
Speaker 2: you when I first started betting, many many years ago,

1926
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 2: you saw the ball go through Bill Buckner's legs. Yeah,

1927
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:39,240
Speaker 2: I was on the wrong side of that. I've seen

1928
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:41,920
Speaker 2: many bad beats in my life. I've seen the rug

1929
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:46,280
Speaker 2: pulled out from under me. And that goes with the territory.

1930
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 2: You are not going to win them all. And you've

1931
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 2: heard me say a thousand times. I believe the average

1932
01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:54,599
Speaker 2: better doesn't get high making the bet winning the bet.

1933
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:57,240
Speaker 2: Excuse me, They get him making the bet because it

1934
01:51:57,320 --> 01:52:02,760
Speaker 2: feeds their competitive spirit. It enables them to enjoy the

1935
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:06,760
Speaker 2: active participation in the sporting event itself more so. But

1936
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 2: along the way, this is the problem. When it hurts

1937
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 2: way more to lose than it does to win, and

1938
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 2: when you win you're merely relieved. You got to take

1939
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 2: a hard look. I believe agencies will continue to watch

1940
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:22,720
Speaker 2: this and I will tell you that this is a

1941
01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:25,679
Speaker 2: serious issue and it continues to need to be monitored.

1942
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 2: I think probably more new, more aggressive laws need to

1943
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:30,920
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1948
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Speaker 2: take the eight NFL divisions that we're going to preview,

1949
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:49,280
Speaker 2: starting with the NFC West or the AFC West next week.

1950
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:52,519
Speaker 2: But speaking of the AFC West, if you're a Denver

1951
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:54,360
Speaker 2: Broncos fan, I might have some good news for you.

1952
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:58,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna start easying into football a little bit more.

1953
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 2: And again, if you're a Denver Broncos fan, might have

1954
01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:03,200
Speaker 2: a little bit of good news for you based on

1955
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:07,599
Speaker 2: past trends. I'm Bernie Fraddle, Wick Company Live from Las Vegas,

1956
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, tirerac dot com studios. Keep it locked

1957
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:13,120
Speaker 2: right here. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on

1958
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. We're back on the Bernie Fraddle Show,

1959
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:23,599
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Company Live the tirat dot com studios

1960
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 2: here in the Las Vegas Remember to top of the

1961
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 2: hour nine minutes away. The dance Sensation sweep of the

1962
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:32,040
Speaker 2: nation will kind of brand new fool of you, followed

1963
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:36,559
Speaker 2: by what my name? Oh by the way, we will

1964
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 2: starting next week, begin to dive heavily into the various

1965
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:46,479
Speaker 2: NFL upcoming stories and certainly college breakdowns starting next week

1966
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:52,479
Speaker 2: will take one conference every or every check that will

1967
01:53:52,479 --> 01:54:01,719
Speaker 2: take one division, no conference division, NFC West, ANFC West, South, East, North,

1968
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:03,840
Speaker 2: you get it. I believe we'll start with the AFC

1969
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:08,879
Speaker 2: West next week. Speaking of the AFC West Denver Broncos, well,

1970
01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 2: they were busy spending in the off season. Yep. They

1971
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 2: shelled out the most cabbage in the NFL offseason than

1972
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:21,120
Speaker 2: any other team. Now here's why it tas that may

1973
01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:25,280
Speaker 2: be a good sign. The last six teams to have

1974
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 2: spent the most in the off season. Jacksonville did it

1975
01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:30,880
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. You saw how their season ended

1976
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 2: last year, New England in twenty twenty one, Miami in

1977
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:36,800
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, the Jets in twenty nineteen, the Bears in

1978
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. That was the old Mitch Trubisky team. They

1979
01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:41,520
Speaker 2: ended up going from last to first in the twenty

1980
01:54:41,560 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 2: seven Jacksonville Jags. When you go back seven years and

1981
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 2: you and again you recognize the fact that Denver shelled

1982
01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 2: out the most money in the offseason those teams I

1983
01:54:56,240 --> 01:55:00,839
Speaker 2: just mentioned Jacksonville, New England, Miami, Jets, Chicago and Jacksonville

1984
01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:05,880
Speaker 2: again twenty seventeen. They turned that investment into win improvements

1985
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 2: by averaging five more wins the following season. That's significant. Now,

1986
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 2: Denver had a rough year last year. I think they

1987
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:17,200
Speaker 2: were a five win team. Does that mean they jumped

1988
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 2: a tent I don't know. Well with Sean Payton, the

1989
01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:24,960
Speaker 2: question becomes whether Sean Payton a new coach. And by

1990
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:29,560
Speaker 2: the way, the former winning Super Bowl Saints coach can

1991
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 2: file the same fat path excuse me speaking of fat.

1992
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:38,560
Speaker 2: Peyton cleaned out all the fat like for instance, he's

1993
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 2: been working with Russell Wilson, and it's my understanding that

1994
01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:46,520
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson is no longer using all the personal coaches

1995
01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:52,080
Speaker 2: that you know, they simplified everything is what he's done, okay.

1996
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 2: And you know we had we had Chad Anders on

1997
01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 2: our show one of four to three, the fan in

1998
01:55:56,440 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 2: Denver does a phenomenal job, and he agreed that Sean

1999
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:05,360
Speaker 2: Payton has already changed the culture quite a bit. There's

2000
01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 2: no question who's in charge. There's no more of these

2001
01:56:08,120 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 2: high jinks with Nathaniel Hackett, and we had to get

2002
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:12,960
Speaker 2: approval to see if it worked. And then you've got

2003
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 2: other guys calling plays Denver fans. Look, Russell Wilson had

2004
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 2: an outlier year last year. Can he regress back to

2005
01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:23,880
Speaker 2: the mean? Progress back to the mean? And I think

2006
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:26,880
Speaker 2: that Sean Payton is the new sheriff in town. And

2007
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:31,200
Speaker 2: so far the reactions have been very positive. And so again,

2008
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 2: if you're one of those teams, it spends the most

2009
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 2: in the off season as those other multiple teams I

2010
01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 2: just mentioned did in the last six years, you average

2011
01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:42,080
Speaker 2: an additional five more wins. We'll see if Denver can

2012
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:44,760
Speaker 2: do that. Coming up, what kind of brand new fool

2013
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:46,880
Speaker 2: of you? Followed by what my name? Keep it locked

2014
01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 2: right here? Listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox

2015
01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Well that tretch I heard. The man of

2016
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:56,120
Speaker 2: the Bernie Fratterle Show keeps rolling right along. My name

2017
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 2: is Bernie Frattle. We're coming you alive from the tire

2018
01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:02,720
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2019
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2022
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 2: should be. Well, it's this time every week two am Pacific,

2023
01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:23,839
Speaker 2: five am Eastern that we delve into a weird world,

2024
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 2: because every day across this great land of ours, and

2025
01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:31,879
Speaker 2: certainly around the globe, people do things. They do odd things.

2026
01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:39,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're very innocuous, just annoying, humorous goofy. Sometimes they're

2027
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 2: very serious. Sometimes they even find themselves breaking the law

2028
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:46,920
Speaker 2: and ending up behind bars. But any way you slice it,

2029
01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 2: people engage in these oddball, idiosyncratic behaviors that nevertheless leave

2030
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:57,280
Speaker 2: all of us scratching your heads and saying to yourself,

2031
01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:05,840
Speaker 2: what kind of brand new fool of you? So?

2032
01:58:06,280 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 1: What kind of brand new fool are you?

2033
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 4: So?

2034
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:13,720
Speaker 2: This week's caper takes us to Albuquerque, New Mexico, and

2035
01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:17,520
Speaker 2: I will tell you of all the ones I've reported

2036
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:19,600
Speaker 2: on in the last couple of years since I created

2037
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 2: this segment this little bit, I find no humor in

2038
01:58:23,840 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 2: this one at all. Let's say you're out for an evening.

2039
01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:31,040
Speaker 2: You're heading to your favorite cinema to see a movie. Right,

2040
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:34,320
Speaker 2: who doesn't enjoy doing that? Matter of fact, let's say

2041
01:58:34,360 --> 01:58:37,720
Speaker 2: you're going to see the new movie with Jennifer Lawrence

2042
01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:42,879
Speaker 2: called No Hard Feelings. Ladies and gentlemen, Meet Enrique Padilla

2043
01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:49,160
Speaker 2: nineteen years old, Meet Michael Tenorio fifty two years old. Now.

2044
01:58:49,200 --> 01:58:52,880
Speaker 2: One of my least favorite innovations that movie theaters have

2045
01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:55,520
Speaker 2: created in recent years is where you get in line

2046
01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:58,720
Speaker 2: and you pick your seat. You point to the screen

2047
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 2: and they're telling you a specific seat. I hate that

2048
01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:05,760
Speaker 2: It slows up the line. People get up front, they

2049
01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 2: can't make up their mind. And then you get into

2050
01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 2: the auditorium and half the time people don't sit in

2051
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:13,760
Speaker 2: the seats they were assigned anyway, which leads us to

2052
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:16,880
Speaker 2: our what kind of brand new fool are you? This

2053
01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:23,920
Speaker 2: is all time crazy crazy Craig Craig, A man was

2054
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:29,240
Speaker 2: shot dead after an argument overseating at the cinema in

2055
01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:36,120
Speaker 2: New Mexico as moviegoers fled for safety. Okay, so here's

2056
01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:39,760
Speaker 2: what happened. In Reiki Padilla nineteen years old. He's accused

2057
01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:43,560
Speaker 2: of opening fire on Michael Tenorio after he found the

2058
01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:46,680
Speaker 2: victim and his wife were sitting in the seats he

2059
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:50,840
Speaker 2: bought for himself and his girlfriend. Now, police say that

2060
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 2: the staff at the cinema in Albuquerque tried to resolve

2061
01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:59,840
Speaker 2: the issue, but the issue escalated. The situation escalated for

2062
02:00:01,040 --> 02:00:04,360
Speaker 2: you're sitting in my seat or was arguing. Then there

2063
02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:08,400
Speaker 2: was shoving, Then there was a thrown bucket of popcorn,

2064
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:14,880
Speaker 2: and then gunfire. Tenorio Michael Tenorio, fifty two years old,

2065
02:00:15,480 --> 02:00:19,600
Speaker 2: was shot, and his wife told investigators he was unarmed. Now,

2066
02:00:19,640 --> 02:00:23,680
Speaker 2: there wasn't off duty police officer in the studio in

2067
02:00:23,720 --> 02:00:26,680
Speaker 2: the movie theater. He tried to perform life saving measures

2068
02:00:26,680 --> 02:00:29,760
Speaker 2: on Tenorio, but the poor gentleman died at the scene

2069
02:00:29,800 --> 02:00:32,080
Speaker 2: as a result of his wounds. See you go to

2070
02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:36,160
Speaker 2: a movie you're packing someone sitting in your seat instead

2071
02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:38,240
Speaker 2: of resolving it, or what would do another damn seat?

2072
02:00:38,280 --> 02:00:40,680
Speaker 2: Who really cares that much? No, you open up fire,

2073
02:00:41,360 --> 02:00:46,880
Speaker 2: mister media? What kind of brand new fool are you? Kevin?

2074
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:48,360
Speaker 2: Have fun following that one?

2075
02:00:49,080 --> 02:00:52,240
Speaker 5: Okay, last week left off we went to Rome where

2076
02:00:52,280 --> 02:00:54,840
Speaker 5: a guy had carved the name of him and his girlfriend.

2077
02:00:54,840 --> 02:00:57,920
Speaker 2: I remember that, Yes, the coliseum.

2078
02:00:57,440 --> 02:01:00,400
Speaker 5: Right in the Roman Coliseum. Okay, So he has since

2079
02:01:01,360 --> 02:01:05,160
Speaker 5: come come out and apologized. Thirty one year old Ivan

2080
02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:09,960
Speaker 5: die deny Love Dmitrov wrote in a letter, and he

2081
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:14,840
Speaker 5: addressed the Rome Prosecutor's office apologizing for the incident. But

2082
02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:17,760
Speaker 5: he also said that he had no idea the two

2083
02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:20,560
Speaker 5: thousand year old nono was actually ancient, because you know,

2084
02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:22,480
Speaker 5: people are waiting hours to go into a building those

2085
02:01:22,520 --> 02:01:23,520
Speaker 5: built thirty years ago.

2086
02:01:26,920 --> 02:01:27,440
Speaker 2: Continue.

2087
02:01:28,240 --> 02:01:30,920
Speaker 5: So he's still because of that, faces up to a

2088
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:35,440
Speaker 5: fifteen thousand dollar fine, fifteen thousand euro fine and one

2089
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:39,640
Speaker 5: to five years in prison. And he got to wonder Iye,

2090
02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:43,680
Speaker 5: he carved an Ivan in Hayley twenty three into the wall,

2091
02:01:43,680 --> 02:01:46,000
Speaker 5: and I gotta wonder if she's actually still with him

2092
02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:46,280
Speaker 5: or not.

2093
02:01:46,400 --> 02:01:51,000
Speaker 2: So Ivan, you don't have to follow up on that, keV.

2094
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:55,200
Speaker 5: Dana love Dimitrov. What kind of brand new fool are you?

2095
02:01:57,040 --> 02:01:57,240
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2096
02:01:57,280 --> 02:02:00,720
Speaker 2: You know what Crypto dot com arena. It was built.

2097
02:02:00,840 --> 02:02:03,920
Speaker 2: I want to say about thirty years ago, right, it'd been.

2098
02:02:03,880 --> 02:02:07,200
Speaker 5: Down Yeah, I think it was two thousand or maybe

2099
02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:10,520
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety nine, twenty five years Yeah, that sounds right.

2100
02:02:10,600 --> 02:02:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually yeah, because the first time ever, well the

2101
02:02:12,400 --> 02:02:13,720
Speaker 2: first time I ever went to a game, there was

2102
02:02:13,720 --> 02:02:15,640
Speaker 2: old one. I was living in Michigan. But you're right,

2103
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Speaker 2: they'd just been open a couple of years. So I

2104
02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:21,800
Speaker 2: just just a quick non sequitor, Kevin. Do you not

2105
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:26,480
Speaker 2: find it odd that Crypto dot com arena, that sponsorship

2106
02:02:26,560 --> 02:02:30,520
Speaker 2: was paid for by Crypto dot Com by real US dollars?

2107
02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:34,640
Speaker 5: I just, I mean, I think it's kind of ironic,

2108
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:36,720
Speaker 5: but it says everything you need to know about crypto

2109
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:40,560
Speaker 5: when the people they're paying insist on real cash.

2110
02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was ironic and of course not

2111
02:02:43,480 --> 02:02:47,640
Speaker 2: so funny. Is Tom Brady down about thirty large thirty million, like, oh,

2112
02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:49,120
Speaker 2: that's the story for a different day. We may get

2113
02:02:49,120 --> 02:02:51,440
Speaker 2: to it. I reported on this last summer. All right,

2114
02:02:52,080 --> 02:02:53,280
Speaker 2: you're up, mister Sweek.

2115
02:02:53,880 --> 02:02:57,400
Speaker 4: All right, Bernie and Kevin, we're gonna take a trip

2116
02:02:57,520 --> 02:03:02,000
Speaker 4: down to bedminstea brisk which for people that don't know,

2117
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:03,880
Speaker 4: that's in Jolie Old England.

2118
02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:04,720
Speaker 3: Wa down't shut.

2119
02:03:08,400 --> 02:03:10,480
Speaker 2: So I'm ready for some bangers and mesh.

2120
02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:12,960
Speaker 3: Now some fish and ship fish.

2121
02:03:13,160 --> 02:03:15,880
Speaker 2: That's right, right, scotchange, let's go.

2122
02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:17,600
Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna go to.

2123
02:03:19,680 --> 02:03:19,920
Speaker 2: Yes.

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02:03:20,520 --> 02:03:24,560
Speaker 4: So it's actually takes place at a quiet night in

2125
02:03:24,720 --> 02:03:30,000
Speaker 4: Bristol where a I guess it's a parcel delivery driver

2126
02:03:30,440 --> 02:03:34,080
Speaker 4: whatever Britain's version of that is left the car on

2127
02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:36,920
Speaker 4: running to Defrost's cars because he was a you know,

2128
02:03:37,000 --> 02:03:39,920
Speaker 4: a cold gold very cold night and there in Bristol

2129
02:03:40,520 --> 02:03:45,000
Speaker 4: left it alone to you know, Defrost incomes our subject

2130
02:03:45,080 --> 02:03:49,080
Speaker 4: and star the whole show. Right here, Mark Winslow, twenty

2131
02:03:49,120 --> 02:03:54,520
Speaker 4: six year old Mark Winslow into said car and hijackson.

2132
02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:58,040
Speaker 4: Now the good thing about Mark Winslow hijacking this car,

2133
02:03:58,560 --> 02:04:01,360
Speaker 4: you know, he stoles it and he's you know, bobbing

2134
02:04:01,400 --> 02:04:05,560
Speaker 4: and weaving and driving around police catch wind of this

2135
02:04:05,840 --> 02:04:07,440
Speaker 4: and start chasing after this man.

2136
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:10,280
Speaker 5: Now when they catch up to him.

2137
02:04:10,120 --> 02:04:12,760
Speaker 3: He's trying to lose him. It doesn't really get that far.

2138
02:04:12,840 --> 02:04:15,480
Speaker 4: He crashes into two other cars and he actually gets

2139
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:18,040
Speaker 4: the delivery van on top of two.

2140
02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:19,840
Speaker 3: Cars, goes out, goes out.

2141
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:24,440
Speaker 4: Oh, Mark Winslow crashes into two cars and his car stuck,

2142
02:04:24,520 --> 02:04:28,200
Speaker 4: so he gets out. Now what police say is they

2143
02:04:28,200 --> 02:04:32,080
Speaker 4: see him in very very dark, peculiar almost lighting up clothing.

2144
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:36,040
Speaker 4: Well he was because when the helicopters were shining lights

2145
02:04:36,040 --> 02:04:38,440
Speaker 4: looking for him at the dead of night, they found

2146
02:04:38,520 --> 02:04:45,720
Speaker 4: him in a onesie with glowing the dark stars. Oh yep,

2147
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:48,120
Speaker 4: he was in a black onesie with a glowing the

2148
02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:51,600
Speaker 4: dark stars. And police end up finding him after about

2149
02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:54,200
Speaker 4: a good ten fifteen minutes. He was trying to hide

2150
02:04:54,200 --> 02:04:56,640
Speaker 4: out and like you know, like in a dark part

2151
02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:59,560
Speaker 4: of the woods. So they end up finding him and

2152
02:04:59,680 --> 02:05:02,960
Speaker 4: you know, he was. He was sentenced to twenty twenty

2153
02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:07,480
Speaker 4: months in jail, banned of two years for driving, and

2154
02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:12,280
Speaker 4: was ordered to take an extended drug test because he

2155
02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:16,000
Speaker 4: was found high off narcotics when he was arrested.

2156
02:05:16,080 --> 02:05:17,920
Speaker 3: And he was actually asked.

2157
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:20,840
Speaker 4: When why was why was he wearing a Onesie, He asked, Well,

2158
02:05:20,840 --> 02:05:23,440
Speaker 4: when I saw my opportunity, I wanted to hide and

2159
02:05:23,600 --> 02:05:25,680
Speaker 4: see if I could blend into the nightlight sky.

2160
02:05:26,960 --> 02:05:29,280
Speaker 2: So I just threw up in my mouth again.

2161
02:05:31,120 --> 02:05:33,680
Speaker 3: So, mister, mister Mark Winslow, what kind of brand new

2162
02:05:33,680 --> 02:05:34,160
Speaker 3: fool are you?

2163
02:05:34,240 --> 02:05:37,879
Speaker 2: Sir? My head? My head is I need I need aspirin,

2164
02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:40,400
Speaker 2: I need something. This is beautiful, really good stuff, really

2165
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:44,360
Speaker 2: interesting stuff. I got a letter writing onesies. People getting

2166
02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:48,160
Speaker 2: shot in movie theaters never ends, does it? Another rousing

2167
02:05:48,280 --> 02:05:51,040
Speaker 2: edition of what kind of brand new fool of you?

2168
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:51,520
Speaker 4: Is?

2169
02:05:51,560 --> 02:05:56,120
Speaker 2: In the books? We'll having back next Saturday night, two

2170
02:05:56,160 --> 02:06:00,600
Speaker 2: am Pacific, five em Eastern, But not before we segue

2171
02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:03,360
Speaker 2: into our second favorite bit that we lovingly referred to

2172
02:06:03,400 --> 02:06:09,960
Speaker 2: as what my name? All Right? So baseball is upon

2173
02:06:10,080 --> 02:06:13,000
Speaker 2: us all kinds of baseball news. The All Star Game

2174
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:15,520
Speaker 2: Tuesday night, So we got a bit of a baseball

2175
02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:19,040
Speaker 2: theme tonight. So without further ado, why don't we dive

2176
02:06:19,400 --> 02:06:23,800
Speaker 2: right into it? All right? In the history of Major

2177
02:06:23,840 --> 02:06:27,880
Speaker 2: League Baseball, five pitchers have actually started the Major League

2178
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:31,520
Speaker 2: Baseball All Star Game for both leagues, but I was

2179
02:06:31,560 --> 02:06:35,160
Speaker 2: the first one to do it. Kevin wired what my Name?

2180
02:06:35,920 --> 02:06:42,200
Speaker 5: First pitcher to pitch for both sides. Pass on that one.

2181
02:06:42,200 --> 02:06:43,120
Speaker 5: I can't even.

2182
02:06:42,680 --> 02:06:48,800
Speaker 2: All right, no problem, all right. In the history of

2183
02:06:48,840 --> 02:06:52,040
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, five pitchers have started the Major League

2184
02:06:52,040 --> 02:06:55,400
Speaker 2: Baseball All Star Game for both leagues, but I was

2185
02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:59,800
Speaker 2: the first one to do it. Patrick Sweeka, What my name? Hmmmm?

2186
02:07:01,160 --> 02:07:02,960
Speaker 3: Who is Nolan Ryan?

2187
02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:10,120
Speaker 2: That's a really good guess. It's actually Vita Blue, Vita

2188
02:07:10,160 --> 02:07:15,880
Speaker 2: Blue Blue. There you go. All right, So we've had

2189
02:07:16,320 --> 02:07:20,480
Speaker 2: a couple no hitters this season. No, six pitchers in

2190
02:07:20,520 --> 02:07:26,120
Speaker 2: their career have thrown two no hitters in the same season.

2191
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:29,200
Speaker 2: But I'm the last one to do it. Kevin Wyatt,

2192
02:07:29,200 --> 02:07:29,760
Speaker 2: what my name?

2193
02:07:31,120 --> 02:07:35,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take it from Patrick Nolan Ryan, not Nolan Ryan.

2194
02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:37,960
Speaker 2: He's not the last one to do it. But again,

2195
02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:41,200
Speaker 2: good guess. Six pitchers in Major League Baseball history have

2196
02:07:41,280 --> 02:07:43,760
Speaker 2: thrown two no hitters in the same season, but I'm

2197
02:07:43,760 --> 02:07:47,320
Speaker 2: the last one to do it. Patrick Sweeka, what my name?

2198
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:48,280
Speaker 6: Hmm?

2199
02:07:49,240 --> 02:07:53,200
Speaker 3: Who is Trevor Bauer?

2200
02:07:56,480 --> 02:07:58,960
Speaker 2: The Trevor Bauer. You could just keep using that whenever

2201
02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:01,120
Speaker 2: you want. I mean, we're we're on a roll. Now,

2202
02:08:01,200 --> 02:08:04,240
Speaker 2: forget it. He's rolling. It's like animal house. We didn't

2203
02:08:04,240 --> 02:08:07,320
Speaker 2: give up with the Germans attack Pe Harbor. Look, I

2204
02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:09,680
Speaker 2: love how you do the you know the jeopardy frame,

2205
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:13,400
Speaker 2: It in the in the frame the answer in the

2206
02:08:13,400 --> 02:08:16,959
Speaker 2: form of a question. It's actually Max Schurezer. Max Scherzer

2207
02:08:17,360 --> 02:08:21,200
Speaker 2: threw two no hitters and Max all right, now here's

2208
02:08:21,200 --> 02:08:23,480
Speaker 2: a beauty. You guys should get this one though it's

2209
02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:27,000
Speaker 2: it's odd trivia, but you should get it. I'm actually

2210
02:08:27,040 --> 02:08:29,400
Speaker 2: the only pitcher in Major League Baseball to throw two

2211
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:32,120
Speaker 2: no hitters in back to back games. Threw two no

2212
02:08:32,240 --> 02:08:35,320
Speaker 2: hitters in a row. Kevin Wyatt, what my name? Oh?

2213
02:08:35,400 --> 02:08:37,600
Speaker 5: I on the tip of my tongue. And I know

2214
02:08:37,680 --> 02:08:42,120
Speaker 5: he played in like the nineteen thirties, right, Ah, I could.

2215
02:08:42,160 --> 02:08:44,040
Speaker 5: I don't remember his name, but I I it's on

2216
02:08:44,040 --> 02:08:44,920
Speaker 5: the tip of my tongue.

2217
02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:47,280
Speaker 2: I broke. You know. A few weeks back, when Arnie

2218
02:08:47,320 --> 02:08:50,920
Speaker 2: Spaniard was hosting Jason and Mike with Steve de Seger,

2219
02:08:50,960 --> 02:08:53,160
Speaker 2: they were sports records that will never be broken. I said,

2220
02:08:53,160 --> 02:08:55,720
Speaker 2: this will never be broken. The only pitcher in Major

2221
02:08:55,760 --> 02:08:58,160
Speaker 2: League Baseball pitcher to throw two no hitters in a row.

2222
02:08:59,320 --> 02:09:00,760
Speaker 2: Patrick Sweet, what my name?

2223
02:09:01,600 --> 02:09:04,560
Speaker 4: Who is the great Bambino?

2224
02:09:04,640 --> 02:09:06,240
Speaker 3: Babe Ruth not not Babe?

2225
02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:10,000
Speaker 2: Ruth didn't damn near everything else but that it's actually

2226
02:09:10,080 --> 02:09:15,360
Speaker 2: Johnny Vandermere, Johnny Vandermure. All right, moving on, this is

2227
02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:17,839
Speaker 2: a beauty. This guy's one of my favorite players. Very colorful.

2228
02:09:19,480 --> 02:09:23,520
Speaker 2: I lead all Major leaguers in history by leading off

2229
02:09:23,560 --> 02:09:28,120
Speaker 2: the game with a home run eighty one times. Kevin Wyrett,

2230
02:09:28,120 --> 02:09:28,640
Speaker 2: What my name?

2231
02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:30,760
Speaker 5: Ricky Henderson?

2232
02:09:30,880 --> 02:09:39,600
Speaker 2: Ben? Here you go? Nicely done, Kevin, nicely done? Alright. Recently,

2233
02:09:39,960 --> 02:09:44,680
Speaker 2: Shohei Otani became the second player in history to have

2234
02:09:44,760 --> 02:09:49,160
Speaker 2: thirty home runs and ten stolen bases before July one.

2235
02:09:50,200 --> 02:09:53,560
Speaker 2: I'm the first one to do that. Uh, Patrick Sweeka,

2236
02:09:53,640 --> 02:09:54,240
Speaker 2: What my name?

2237
02:09:55,080 --> 02:09:57,400
Speaker 3: Who is Mark McGuire?

2238
02:09:57,920 --> 02:09:59,760
Speaker 2: Not Mark McGuire. I don't think there's much of a

2239
02:09:59,840 --> 02:10:04,520
Speaker 2: BA Steeler, but give you an a for effort. All right. Recently,

2240
02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:09,480
Speaker 2: Shohio Tani thirty home runs, ten stolen bases prior to

2241
02:10:09,680 --> 02:10:12,600
Speaker 2: July first. But I'm the first one to ever do that.

2242
02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:14,880
Speaker 2: Kevin Wire what my name?

2243
02:10:15,280 --> 02:10:18,600
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna take guests and say, Barry Bonds.

2244
02:10:18,160 --> 02:10:21,960
Speaker 2: It's actually Sammy Sosa. Bond's very prolific based jo it though,

2245
02:10:21,960 --> 02:10:25,800
Speaker 2: good call on Bond's Sammy Sosa. There's a blast for

2246
02:10:25,880 --> 02:10:29,120
Speaker 2: you all right? Back to the hot dog eating contest.

2247
02:10:29,680 --> 02:10:32,240
Speaker 2: Joey Chestnuts won fifteen to the last sixteen. I'm the

2248
02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:34,400
Speaker 2: last one to beat him. Kevin Wire What my name?

2249
02:10:35,600 --> 02:10:36,360
Speaker 3: Kobayashi?

2250
02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:39,040
Speaker 2: Not kobo Yashi. You think you would be him, but

2251
02:10:39,120 --> 02:10:43,000
Speaker 2: it's not. Joey Chestnuts won fifteen to the last sixteen

2252
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:47,440
Speaker 2: hot dog eating Contest. I'm the last one to beat him.

2253
02:10:47,480 --> 02:10:48,920
Speaker 2: Patrick Sweeker, what my name?

2254
02:10:49,560 --> 02:10:51,919
Speaker 3: Who is mat Sony?

2255
02:10:52,680 --> 02:10:53,000
Speaker 4: Bam?

2256
02:10:53,120 --> 02:11:03,360
Speaker 2: There you go. By the way, shohey Atani owned the record,

2257
02:11:03,520 --> 02:11:06,680
Speaker 2: now owns the record for most home runs hit in

2258
02:11:06,760 --> 02:11:10,720
Speaker 2: the month of June. He broke my record. I held

2259
02:11:10,760 --> 02:11:13,280
Speaker 2: the record prior to that. Kevin Wyre. What my name?

2260
02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:16,920
Speaker 5: Going back to the well, Barry Bonds, Tim Salmon, Oh,

2261
02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:17,520
Speaker 5: I forgot that.

2262
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:20,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I forgot to ask you. Patrick.

2263
02:11:20,240 --> 02:11:21,200
Speaker 3: It was Tim Salmon.

2264
02:11:21,640 --> 02:11:26,960
Speaker 2: Tim Sammony got it all right? Last one. I think

2265
02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:31,280
Speaker 2: I'm spinning out of control here. So a few weeks back,

2266
02:11:31,520 --> 02:11:34,880
Speaker 2: when the Domingo Herman threw the perfect game against the

2267
02:11:34,920 --> 02:11:39,560
Speaker 2: Oakland A's for Bastards, their season just keeps spiling downward. Well,

2268
02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:43,440
Speaker 2: guess what, back in twenty twelve, I actually threw a

2269
02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:48,240
Speaker 2: perfect game for the Oakland A's on Mother's Day. Kevin Wyre,

2270
02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:48,920
Speaker 2: what my name?

2271
02:11:49,320 --> 02:11:51,200
Speaker 5: Dallas Brayden, nicely done.

2272
02:11:51,320 --> 02:11:55,760
Speaker 2: That's a good one. Good stuff, good stuff, all right,

2273
02:11:56,200 --> 02:12:00,360
Speaker 2: coming up, But he got Patrick Sweek as Progressive Player

2274
02:12:00,440 --> 02:12:03,560
Speaker 2: of the Play of the Day. As the Bernie Fraddle

2275
02:12:03,600 --> 02:12:05,360
Speaker 2: Show rolls out, I'm Bernie Frattle, will come to you

2276
02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:08,520
Speaker 2: live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio tire Rock

2277
02:12:08,600 --> 02:12:11,720
Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Don't go away listening to the Bernie

2278
02:12:11,720 --> 02:12:15,840
Speaker 2: Fradle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right back on

2279
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:18,280
Speaker 2: the Bernie Faddle Show, Fox Sports Radio, come to live

2280
02:12:18,320 --> 02:12:22,120
Speaker 2: from the tyrat dot Com studios here in Las Vegas.

2281
02:12:23,160 --> 02:12:27,680
Speaker 2: Before we go any further, Patrick sweeka working hard and

2282
02:12:27,800 --> 02:12:31,080
Speaker 2: he will now bring us the progressive power play of

2283
02:12:31,080 --> 02:12:32,960
Speaker 2: the day high light kick.

2284
02:12:33,040 --> 02:12:35,440
Speaker 8: Coming to the plate, He'll steal third base. Evy Day

2285
02:12:35,520 --> 02:12:40,520
Speaker 8: a cruise roll without evenna throw the third baseman, Brian

2286
02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:43,200
Speaker 8: Brian Anderson didn't even go now, I was coming home.

2287
02:12:43,360 --> 02:12:44,080
Speaker 8: Henny's safe.

2288
02:12:46,040 --> 02:12:49,640
Speaker 2: It was incredible. If you've seen the video, he steals second,

2289
02:12:49,720 --> 02:12:53,120
Speaker 2: then he steals third, and the picture from Milwaukee was

2290
02:12:53,160 --> 02:12:56,160
Speaker 2: sort of lolly jigging around and he noticed that he

2291
02:12:56,320 --> 02:12:59,000
Speaker 2: gapped out. He just took off her home plate. Last

2292
02:12:59,000 --> 02:13:03,120
Speaker 2: guy to steal second, third and home in sequence like

2293
02:13:03,120 --> 02:13:07,040
Speaker 2: that was Ta Cob nineteen eleven. Did it took three pitches?

2294
02:13:07,800 --> 02:13:14,840
Speaker 2: Courtesy Cincinnati Red's Radio network. By the way, Kevin and

2295
02:13:14,080 --> 02:13:18,360
Speaker 2: uh and Patrick real quickly, you've heard me talk a

2296
02:13:18,360 --> 02:13:21,680
Speaker 2: lot earlier in the show, a pretty vehement about believing

2297
02:13:21,680 --> 02:13:26,320
Speaker 2: the Angels should not trade Shoeo Tani. Okay, Shootani is

2298
02:13:26,320 --> 02:13:28,960
Speaker 2: Elie de la Cruz. Who can imagine if Li de

2299
02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:31,959
Speaker 2: la Cruz could pitch? Okay, did I have show? Yotani?

2300
02:13:33,240 --> 02:13:36,960
Speaker 2: You heard my story about trading Babe Ruth Harry Frazy

2301
02:13:38,520 --> 02:13:40,920
Speaker 2: on the Boston Red Sox and and you know the

2302
02:13:40,920 --> 02:13:44,200
Speaker 2: bottom line is he traded Ruth for He sold Ruth

2303
02:13:44,200 --> 02:13:46,400
Speaker 2: to the Yankees for one hundred thousand dollars to finance

2304
02:13:46,440 --> 02:13:49,480
Speaker 2: a play. It was his after its sixth season, same

2305
02:13:49,520 --> 02:13:52,320
Speaker 2: as Otani. I think the Angels will regret it. Now.

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02:13:52,640 --> 02:13:55,320
Speaker 2: I have a lot of opposition. People think, no, you

2307
02:13:55,400 --> 02:13:57,880
Speaker 2: gotta do this. I'm not buying their group, thin, Kecko Chaper,

2308
02:13:57,920 --> 02:13:59,720
Speaker 2: What do you get, Kevin? What do you think you're

2309
02:13:59,800 --> 02:14:02,880
Speaker 2: right there in southern California? Are you an Angel fan? Oh?

2310
02:14:02,920 --> 02:14:03,800
Speaker 5: No, I'm a Dodger fan.

2311
02:14:03,960 --> 02:14:06,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so fair or not, you'd probably like to see

2312
02:14:06,600 --> 02:14:08,000
Speaker 2: Otani and a dodgerment for you.

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02:14:08,120 --> 02:14:09,520
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, to go without saying.

2314
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Speaker 2: But in all seriousness, just objectively speaking, do you think

2315
02:14:14,320 --> 02:14:15,680
Speaker 2: the Angels should trade Otani?

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02:14:16,120 --> 02:14:18,120
Speaker 5: I mean they're getting close to the deadline. I mean,

2317
02:14:18,680 --> 02:14:20,880
Speaker 5: take it to the deadline and see where you are.

2318
02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:22,920
Speaker 5: But I mean, if Mike Trout's gonna be out, they're

2319
02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:25,600
Speaker 5: not gonna make the playoffs unless they are just absolutely

2320
02:14:25,680 --> 02:14:28,720
Speaker 5: sure that he's gonna sign an extension and stay long term.

2321
02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:33,680
Speaker 5: Why wouldn't you trade him? As opposed to I mean, well.

2322
02:14:33,560 --> 02:14:37,000
Speaker 2: He's not gonna leave for nothing. The only way that

2323
02:14:37,040 --> 02:14:40,000
Speaker 2: can happen is if the Angels tender him an offered

2324
02:14:40,080 --> 02:14:42,480
Speaker 2: free agency and he accepts someone else, but they're still

2325
02:14:42,880 --> 02:14:46,200
Speaker 2: draft compensation. It's the risk you take. It's the risk

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02:14:46,280 --> 02:14:49,360
Speaker 2: you take. But I think if you trade Otani it's

2327
02:14:49,520 --> 02:14:52,360
Speaker 2: it's the Babe Ruth trade all over again. And the

2328
02:14:52,360 --> 02:14:54,760
Speaker 2: bottom line is you're never gonna get back a haul

2329
02:14:54,880 --> 02:14:57,160
Speaker 2: that's gonna make up for him anyway. Look at Juan Soto,

2330
02:14:58,440 --> 02:15:00,880
Speaker 2: the Washington Nationals got a How's it working out for

2331
02:15:00,920 --> 02:15:05,280
Speaker 2: them so far? Right? And so anyway, as far as

2332
02:15:05,320 --> 02:15:07,240
Speaker 2: the deadline, one of the things you gotta remember is

2333
02:15:07,240 --> 02:15:11,480
Speaker 2: that this man's major League Baseball. In these playoffs, if

2334
02:15:11,480 --> 02:15:14,440
Speaker 2: you are five hundred on Labor Day, you're alive. So

2335
02:15:14,680 --> 02:15:18,800
Speaker 2: it's presumed Otani is gonna be back pitching in nine days.

2336
02:15:18,840 --> 02:15:21,280
Speaker 2: Trout will be back prior to Labor Day. They're just

2337
02:15:21,280 --> 02:15:23,280
Speaker 2: hanging around five hundred by Labor Day. They could just

2338
02:15:23,320 --> 02:15:26,640
Speaker 2: do that. Then they're alive to get to the playoffs.

2339
02:15:26,840 --> 02:15:29,680
Speaker 2: Plus Sotani's twenty nine, he's got another five, six, seven,

2340
02:15:29,720 --> 02:15:33,120
Speaker 2: ten years of serviceability. I just I don't know, so,

2341
02:15:33,400 --> 02:15:34,880
Speaker 2: uh Patrick your thoughts.

2342
02:15:35,560 --> 02:15:39,120
Speaker 4: So despite what I feel of the Angels management or

2343
02:15:39,200 --> 02:15:42,280
Speaker 4: mismanagement of just what they've done the past, you know,

2344
02:15:42,400 --> 02:15:45,600
Speaker 4: five or six years, and so, I actually think they

2345
02:15:45,680 --> 02:15:49,720
Speaker 4: should not trade shoheo Tani. I mean you have you know,

2346
02:15:50,200 --> 02:15:52,640
Speaker 4: like you said, if Elie de la Cruz could pitch,

2347
02:15:52,720 --> 02:15:54,960
Speaker 4: this would be the guy. This guy's a unicorn, just

2348
02:15:55,000 --> 02:15:58,120
Speaker 4: like he's like a one of a kind once in

2349
02:15:58,160 --> 02:16:00,480
Speaker 4: a lifetime like baseball air type.

2350
02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:01,000
Speaker 3: Dude.

2351
02:16:01,520 --> 02:16:05,640
Speaker 4: I think you gotta keep him like one. He's still

2352
02:16:05,640 --> 02:16:08,680
Speaker 4: an angel as of right now. You can still convince

2353
02:16:08,760 --> 02:16:11,560
Speaker 4: him to stay as an Angel. Now I'm personally I'm

2354
02:16:11,600 --> 02:16:13,400
Speaker 4: a Dodger fan, so like I want him as a Dodger.

2355
02:16:13,400 --> 02:16:16,080
Speaker 4: But like they could still convince him to stay. They

2356
02:16:16,080 --> 02:16:18,520
Speaker 4: could even you know, trade deadline instead of trading him,

2357
02:16:18,880 --> 02:16:23,680
Speaker 4: trade to go put stuff or prospects around him to show, hey,

2358
02:16:24,000 --> 02:16:27,960
Speaker 4: we're building, like you know, we're serious about building all

2359
02:16:28,000 --> 02:16:28,960
Speaker 4: this for you.

2360
02:16:29,040 --> 02:16:30,720
Speaker 3: To keep it, you know, to get you to stay.

2361
02:16:31,320 --> 02:16:33,280
Speaker 4: If I'm the Angels, I'm doing everything in my power

2362
02:16:33,320 --> 02:16:36,039
Speaker 4: right now to not trade him and you know, tender him,

2363
02:16:36,080 --> 02:16:38,200
Speaker 4: convince him, do everything, like you know, give him the

2364
02:16:38,240 --> 02:16:39,640
Speaker 4: farm and then some.

2365
02:16:40,920 --> 02:16:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would be a huge mistake to

2366
02:16:44,800 --> 02:16:49,880
Speaker 2: trade show he Otani, he's thirty five and eighteen is

2367
02:16:49,959 --> 02:16:53,120
Speaker 2: a picture he's got over Hunter home runs, but the

2368
02:16:53,160 --> 02:16:56,039
Speaker 2: similarities between him and Ruth after six years are scary

2369
02:16:56,120 --> 02:17:00,959
Speaker 2: and Harry Frozy never lived that down, Never live that down,

2370
02:17:01,040 --> 02:17:05,600
Speaker 2: and obviously that that created the the curs of the

2371
02:17:05,720 --> 02:17:08,920
Speaker 2: Vambino real quickly before we get to Chris Perfet's world

2372
02:17:08,920 --> 02:17:12,959
Speaker 2: of soccer after Kevin's update, if you don't think the

2373
02:17:13,000 --> 02:17:17,119
Speaker 2: growth of pro soccer in the US continues, consider this

2374
02:17:17,360 --> 02:17:21,400
Speaker 2: A wee could go Tuesday Night the La Galaxy had

2375
02:17:21,440 --> 02:17:26,560
Speaker 2: that makeup game against LAFC. It threw eighty two fans

2376
02:17:26,600 --> 02:17:30,080
Speaker 2: on a Tuesday night at the Rose Bowl eighty two thousand.

2377
02:17:30,120 --> 02:17:32,080
Speaker 2: This is not a National Football League game. This is

2378
02:17:32,120 --> 02:17:34,960
Speaker 2: not the Rose Bowl that the college playoff. It's a

2379
02:17:35,280 --> 02:17:40,519
Speaker 2: Tuesday night MLS soccer game, which broke the earlier record

2380
02:17:40,920 --> 02:17:44,640
Speaker 2: between Charlotte FC and March of twenty two of seventy

2381
02:17:44,800 --> 02:17:48,920
Speaker 2: four thousand. Broke it by eight thousand. This is a

2382
02:17:49,040 --> 02:17:54,240
Speaker 2: significant achievement in my humble opinion. Coming up, Chris Perfets

2383
02:17:54,280 --> 02:17:56,520
Speaker 2: World of Soccer. But first let's go back to our guy,

2384
02:17:56,600 --> 02:17:58,440
Speaker 2: Kevin Wyret one last time for an update.

2385
02:17:58,520 --> 02:18:00,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, we had a no hare to throw in Major

2386
02:18:00,879 --> 02:18:02,959
Speaker 5: League Baseball on Saturday, the.

2387
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:06,959
Speaker 1: Yo two pitch swinging a chopper left side, charging in mckinstrey.

2388
02:18:07,200 --> 02:18:11,480
Speaker 2: I'm the first no hitter. For the first time in

2389
02:18:11,640 --> 02:18:15,320
Speaker 2: franchise history, the Tigers have thrown a no.

2390
02:18:15,320 --> 02:18:19,280
Speaker 8: Hitter, a combined no hitter as the mob Alex lang

2391
02:18:19,440 --> 02:18:22,199
Speaker 8: on the mound, and they have done it here today.

2392
02:18:22,320 --> 02:18:24,680
Speaker 1: Jimmy, what a win for the Tigers.

2393
02:18:24,720 --> 02:18:28,360
Speaker 5: A no hitter this afternoon Tigers Radio Network with the

2394
02:18:28,440 --> 02:18:31,560
Speaker 5: callie two nothing win for Detroit over the Blue Jays.

2395
02:18:31,600 --> 02:18:34,039
Speaker 5: Matt Manning got the win. He walked three batters and

2396
02:18:34,200 --> 02:18:37,080
Speaker 5: was pulled after six and two thirds innings, and he

2397
02:18:37,160 --> 02:18:38,879
Speaker 5: even know that he hadn't allowed to hit up to

2398
02:18:38,920 --> 02:18:45,480
Speaker 5: that point. Another great day four Cincinnati rookie Ellie dan

2399
02:18:45,560 --> 02:18:50,920
Speaker 5: La Cruz. He stole three bases, including home plate.

2400
02:18:51,360 --> 02:18:52,000
Speaker 2: High Lake kick.

2401
02:18:52,080 --> 02:18:55,279
Speaker 8: Coming to the plate, he'll steel third base Ellie Data Cruz.

2402
02:18:55,040 --> 02:18:58,440
Speaker 2: Roll without even a throw back.

2403
02:18:58,520 --> 02:19:01,119
Speaker 5: The third baseman, Brian Brian Anderson.

2404
02:19:00,800 --> 02:19:02,240
Speaker 2: Didn't even go now was coming home.

2405
02:19:02,400 --> 02:19:06,840
Speaker 5: Hendy Safe Red's Radio network with the call. He stole

2406
02:19:06,920 --> 02:19:10,720
Speaker 5: three straight bases in the seventh inning on just two pitches,

2407
02:19:10,840 --> 02:19:13,640
Speaker 5: and Cincinnati ahead by two games in the Anal Central

2408
02:19:13,680 --> 02:19:17,520
Speaker 5: after they do beat the Brewers on Saturday eight to five.

2409
02:19:17,680 --> 02:19:19,960
Speaker 5: Yankees over the cub six to three. Garret cole ninety

2410
02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:23,119
Speaker 5: two on the season, Red Sox beat the Athletics ten

2411
02:19:23,240 --> 02:19:26,720
Speaker 5: and three. Oakland now a miserable twenty five and sixty

2412
02:19:26,760 --> 02:19:30,840
Speaker 5: six on the season. The Guardians beat the Royals ten

2413
02:19:30,879 --> 02:19:33,240
Speaker 5: to six, and the Twins fall to the Oriels six

2414
02:19:33,280 --> 02:19:36,360
Speaker 5: to two, so Cleveland now leads the American League Central

2415
02:19:36,440 --> 02:19:40,200
Speaker 5: by half a game. The Dodgers pound the Angels ten

2416
02:19:40,200 --> 02:19:42,440
Speaker 5: to five. They sweep all four games in this year's

2417
02:19:42,440 --> 02:19:44,960
Speaker 5: Freeway series. The Diamondbacks over the Pirates three to two,

2418
02:19:45,120 --> 02:19:48,640
Speaker 5: so it's al Arizona still ahead of LA by half

2419
02:19:48,680 --> 02:19:52,240
Speaker 5: a game. In the National League West, the Padres bounce

2420
02:19:52,280 --> 02:19:55,720
Speaker 5: back to beat the Mets three to one. In the NBA,

2421
02:19:55,879 --> 02:19:59,879
Speaker 5: the league announcing the new format for its in season tournament.

2422
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:03,480
Speaker 5: It'll be three groups of five teams each in the

2423
02:20:03,560 --> 02:20:06,520
Speaker 5: Western Conference and in the Eastern Conference. Group play will

2424
02:20:06,560 --> 02:20:09,920
Speaker 5: take place mostly in November, the semifinals and finals early

2425
02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:13,240
Speaker 5: December in Las Vegas. The grand prize each player on

2426
02:20:13,280 --> 02:20:16,519
Speaker 5: the winning team will receive five hundred one thousand dollars.

2427
02:20:16,800 --> 02:20:19,440
Speaker 5: The Spurs giving Greg Popovic a new five year contract.

2428
02:20:19,600 --> 02:20:23,480
Speaker 5: In college basketball, a lawyer for former West Virginia coach

2429
02:20:23,520 --> 02:20:25,959
Speaker 5: Bob Huggins sending a letter to the school saying Huggins

2430
02:20:25,959 --> 02:20:29,600
Speaker 5: never resigned after last month's diyrs. He expects to have

2431
02:20:29,640 --> 02:20:31,240
Speaker 5: his job back back to you, Bernie.

2432
02:20:31,800 --> 02:20:37,320
Speaker 2: All right, thanks, Kevin. So the news cycle in soccer

2433
02:20:37,640 --> 02:20:40,400
Speaker 2: never ends, and we are just a little over three

2434
02:20:40,440 --> 02:20:45,000
Speaker 2: weeks from the Women's World Cup beginning. They're traveling to

2435
02:20:45,360 --> 02:20:48,640
Speaker 2: a US team trying to threepeat. Travels to Paris. I

2436
02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:51,879
Speaker 2: believe Monday it is upon us. But that's not the

2437
02:20:51,920 --> 02:20:54,640
Speaker 2: only news in the world of soccer, which is exactly

2438
02:20:54,680 --> 02:20:57,119
Speaker 2: why every week at this time we bring you Chris

2439
02:20:57,160 --> 02:20:58,240
Speaker 2: Purfetts World of.

2440
02:20:58,200 --> 02:21:10,600
Speaker 9: Soccer Greatest Goals, The thrilling finishes, the international drum.

2441
02:21:12,760 --> 02:21:12,800
Speaker 2: M.

2442
02:21:15,720 --> 02:21:19,160
Speaker 1: It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

2443
02:21:20,400 --> 02:21:23,360
Speaker 10: Ever since the arrival of their new manager, Eric ten Hogg,

2444
02:21:23,520 --> 02:21:26,119
Speaker 10: there's been a feeling about that this time the new

2445
02:21:26,160 --> 02:21:29,520
Speaker 10: regime at Manchester United will bring the Red Devils back

2446
02:21:29,560 --> 02:21:33,600
Speaker 10: to glory. Many past seasons have been resulting in Manchester

2447
02:21:33,680 --> 02:21:38,160
Speaker 10: United's as almost should have, and indeed it's been over

2448
02:21:38,240 --> 02:21:41,840
Speaker 10: ten years since the Bread Devils have claimed a Premier

2449
02:21:41,920 --> 02:21:44,840
Speaker 10: League title. However, with ten Hog last year they were

2450
02:21:44,879 --> 02:21:49,879
Speaker 10: able to crawl out from several particular roster situations and

2451
02:21:50,320 --> 02:21:52,800
Speaker 10: we're in the FA Cup final and are once again

2452
02:21:52,879 --> 02:21:56,039
Speaker 10: back in the Champions League. So as expected, many believe

2453
02:21:56,120 --> 02:21:58,959
Speaker 10: them as big spenders here as we sit in the

2454
02:21:59,000 --> 02:22:03,520
Speaker 10: midst of them or transfer window in England, and most

2455
02:22:03,560 --> 02:22:07,320
Speaker 10: pundits in most sports figures see United and see a

2456
02:22:07,520 --> 02:22:11,080
Speaker 10: club in need of a number nine. Now in soccer,

2457
02:22:11,160 --> 02:22:14,840
Speaker 10: number nine means the most dangerous striker on the club

2458
02:22:15,160 --> 02:22:18,400
Speaker 10: and for the long time now it's been Marcus Rashford

2459
02:22:18,640 --> 02:22:22,280
Speaker 10: actually wearing number ten, who last year and thirty five

2460
02:22:22,320 --> 02:22:27,240
Speaker 10: appearances in the Premier League scored seventeen goals. But a

2461
02:22:27,280 --> 02:22:30,200
Speaker 10: single star can't do it alone and United has a

2462
02:22:30,200 --> 02:22:33,400
Speaker 10: lot of chances to try to add a foil to him,

2463
02:22:33,560 --> 02:22:36,800
Speaker 10: and indeed, early here in this transfer window they have

2464
02:22:37,000 --> 02:22:41,560
Speaker 10: tried to target the legendary Harry Kane of Tottenham Hotspur.

2465
02:22:41,760 --> 02:22:44,520
Speaker 10: However that seems to as the months were on, be

2466
02:22:44,680 --> 02:22:48,920
Speaker 10: a non starter. It looks like Tottenham Hotspur doesn't really

2467
02:22:49,000 --> 02:22:52,879
Speaker 10: want to deal Harry Kine and indeed there's been concerns

2468
02:22:52,879 --> 02:22:55,240
Speaker 10: that United that they don't want to really go after

2469
02:22:55,320 --> 02:22:59,040
Speaker 10: Cain because dealing with the front office means dealing with

2470
02:22:59,160 --> 02:23:03,360
Speaker 10: Hotspur chairman Daniel Levy, who is known to be a

2471
02:23:03,560 --> 02:23:08,240
Speaker 10: very aggressive businessman when it comes to transfer fees. So

2472
02:23:08,280 --> 02:23:10,760
Speaker 10: this leaves Manchester United looking elsewhere, and indeed they have

2473
02:23:10,840 --> 02:23:13,840
Speaker 10: looked towards Italy and might have been and might have

2474
02:23:13,959 --> 02:23:16,680
Speaker 10: zeroed in on a man that is earning a lot

2475
02:23:16,720 --> 02:23:21,640
Speaker 10: of comparisons in England to Arling Holland. Yes, of the

2476
02:23:21,680 --> 02:23:25,800
Speaker 10: other Manchester of Manchester City, the electric Earling Holland, who

2477
02:23:26,000 --> 02:23:29,640
Speaker 10: was a goal scoring machine across the past calendar year.

2478
02:23:30,040 --> 02:23:33,320
Speaker 10: Now it's unfair to compare anyone to Earling Holland, but

2479
02:23:33,480 --> 02:23:36,840
Speaker 10: I think if any twenty year old from the land

2480
02:23:36,879 --> 02:23:40,640
Speaker 10: of Denmark can be able to hold up to the Norwegian,

2481
02:23:41,280 --> 02:23:46,040
Speaker 10: it is Rasmus Hoyland, who currently plays the Italian club Atalanta, who,

2482
02:23:46,080 --> 02:23:49,640
Speaker 10: indeed Manchester United have zeroed in on and are trying

2483
02:23:50,040 --> 02:23:53,960
Speaker 10: to stick a transfer fee with the Italian club. What

2484
02:23:54,200 --> 02:23:58,760
Speaker 10: makes Hoyland special, Well, the twenty year old has just

2485
02:23:58,920 --> 02:24:02,600
Speaker 10: had one very impressive season, kind of out of our view.

2486
02:24:02,760 --> 02:24:06,000
Speaker 10: In January of twenty twenty two, he joined the Austrian

2487
02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:10,520
Speaker 10: Bundesliga club Sturm Graz for just a little under two

2488
02:24:10,640 --> 02:24:14,800
Speaker 10: million euros and in twenty one games scored twelve goals

2489
02:24:14,840 --> 02:24:18,680
Speaker 10: across all those competitions, and then later found himself with

2490
02:24:18,840 --> 02:24:22,160
Speaker 10: the Italian club Atalanta, who has really been known in

2491
02:24:22,160 --> 02:24:25,240
Speaker 10: the past for high flying, high goal scoring in a

2492
02:24:25,320 --> 02:24:31,640
Speaker 10: league that gets stereotyped for aggressively defensive maneuvers. Atalanta saw

2493
02:24:31,680 --> 02:24:36,440
Speaker 10: Hoyland scoring goals in four consecutive games, and indeed he's

2494
02:24:36,520 --> 02:24:40,120
Speaker 10: just been getting warmed up. In his international career, he's

2495
02:24:40,160 --> 02:24:42,960
Speaker 10: had three appearances with Denmark as he has now made

2496
02:24:43,000 --> 02:24:47,080
Speaker 10: the senior roster for YUEFA Euro twenty twenty four qualifying

2497
02:24:47,280 --> 02:24:50,879
Speaker 10: and scored a hat trick against Finland here back in March,

2498
02:24:51,160 --> 02:24:54,840
Speaker 10: and then just this June two goals against Slovenia with

2499
02:24:54,560 --> 02:24:59,040
Speaker 10: an extra goal coming in between against Kazakhstan. Already at

2500
02:24:59,080 --> 02:25:03,240
Speaker 10: a young age goals in an international career. It would

2501
02:25:03,280 --> 02:25:05,080
Speaker 10: be one thing if it was just the goal scoring

2502
02:25:05,160 --> 02:25:08,760
Speaker 10: numbers that would invite the comparison to Holland, especially since

2503
02:25:08,760 --> 02:25:10,920
Speaker 10: they're both Scandinavian, and I think that's where most of

2504
02:25:10,920 --> 02:25:13,400
Speaker 10: the English press is going with this and comparing the two,

2505
02:25:13,800 --> 02:25:18,840
Speaker 10: but a little deeper beyond that, Hoyland and Holland both

2506
02:25:19,000 --> 02:25:23,480
Speaker 10: score in very remarkable fashions and that they're both looking

2507
02:25:23,760 --> 02:25:27,920
Speaker 10: for the attack. They are both very aggressive on when

2508
02:25:28,000 --> 02:25:31,960
Speaker 10: to strike attack, to get that extra touch over the center.

2509
02:25:32,640 --> 02:25:35,520
Speaker 10: They understand they're in a race to defeat defenders, to

2510
02:25:35,640 --> 02:25:41,280
Speaker 10: beat goalkeepers, to go for high percentage chance shots. Where

2511
02:25:41,320 --> 02:25:43,080
Speaker 10: they are on the field, they have an ability to

2512
02:25:43,160 --> 02:25:45,840
Speaker 10: understand where they're at and take those and it's why

2513
02:25:46,080 --> 02:25:49,640
Speaker 10: many of Holland's shots look like easy tappans sometimes, both

2514
02:25:49,680 --> 02:25:52,560
Speaker 10: Holland and Hoyland, they don't linger on the edge of

2515
02:25:52,560 --> 02:25:55,360
Speaker 10: the box. They don't wait for a cutback there. They're

2516
02:25:55,400 --> 02:25:57,640
Speaker 10: trying to make sure that they can that the shot

2517
02:25:57,680 --> 02:25:59,960
Speaker 10: they're going to take has a high chance to get

2518
02:26:00,080 --> 02:26:04,520
Speaker 10: pass defenders, pass goalkeepers and make it into convert. This

2519
02:26:04,640 --> 02:26:08,240
Speaker 10: all sounds fantastic in theory, but soccer is littered in

2520
02:26:08,320 --> 02:26:11,240
Speaker 10: history with plenty of strikers who don't pan out. But

2521
02:26:11,360 --> 02:26:14,720
Speaker 10: first Manchester United still has to land Rasmus Hoyland, and

2522
02:26:14,760 --> 02:26:16,600
Speaker 10: I'm very excited to see if they will be able

2523
02:26:16,640 --> 02:26:19,680
Speaker 10: to do that. We've already got some rumors that maybe

2524
02:26:19,720 --> 02:26:22,120
Speaker 10: they've already agreed to personal terms, but in the world

2525
02:26:22,120 --> 02:26:25,640
Speaker 10: of soccer, brumers are rampant. We do know that Eric

2526
02:26:25,680 --> 02:26:29,600
Speaker 10: Tenhagg has had extensive talks with the danish Men, and

2527
02:26:29,640 --> 02:26:32,760
Speaker 10: we know that the club is already pushing past and

2528
02:26:32,840 --> 02:26:36,560
Speaker 10: ready to make an even bigger offer after Adalanta turned

2529
02:26:36,600 --> 02:26:40,840
Speaker 10: down their initial offers of around thirty five million. And

2530
02:26:40,920 --> 02:26:42,560
Speaker 10: indeed the club might have to do some work on

2531
02:26:42,560 --> 02:26:45,800
Speaker 10: their roster, like selling their other striker, Anthony Marshall, who

2532
02:26:45,800 --> 02:26:48,959
Speaker 10: actually wears number nine right now, who scored six goals

2533
02:26:49,040 --> 02:26:51,879
Speaker 10: last season, but dealt with a few injuries and quite

2534
02:26:51,920 --> 02:26:54,720
Speaker 10: honestly might need to be finding a new home at

2535
02:26:54,720 --> 02:26:58,800
Speaker 10: some point. One thing's for certain. The transfer window rumors

2536
02:26:59,000 --> 02:27:02,480
Speaker 10: never really close in the world of soccer, and this

2537
02:27:02,560 --> 02:27:04,480
Speaker 10: has been a deep dive into one, just because I

2538
02:27:04,640 --> 02:27:09,360
Speaker 10: find this particular player in Hoyland very fascinating, especially with

2539
02:27:09,560 --> 02:27:13,840
Speaker 10: his international career here so far in these early matches

2540
02:27:13,920 --> 02:27:17,000
Speaker 10: of UEFA Euro Qualifying. I think he's someone to keep

2541
02:27:17,040 --> 02:27:19,520
Speaker 10: an eye on, Bernie as we roll along through the

2542
02:27:19,560 --> 02:27:21,160
Speaker 10: summer in the world of soccer.

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02:27:21,800 --> 02:27:25,400
Speaker 2: Thanks Chris, good stuff, and of course, remember it wasn't

2544
02:27:25,440 --> 02:27:28,920
Speaker 2: that long ago Chris told us about Earling Holland. He's

2545
02:27:28,959 --> 02:27:33,480
Speaker 2: a goalscorer of Wayne Gretzky ILK. I would just say this,

2546
02:27:34,240 --> 02:27:37,280
Speaker 2: he finds these names, they become household names, whether it's

2547
02:27:37,320 --> 02:27:41,600
Speaker 2: Jose Marino, you name it. World of Soccer continues. Can't

2548
02:27:41,600 --> 02:27:46,040
Speaker 2: wait for Women's World Cup just around the corner coming up.

2549
02:27:46,080 --> 02:27:49,640
Speaker 2: We wrap up the show Victor Women. Yama gets his

2550
02:27:49,720 --> 02:27:52,640
Speaker 2: second bite of the apple later on tonight in the

2551
02:27:52,680 --> 02:27:55,560
Speaker 2: Summer League. Heere in Las Vegas. How did he do

2552
02:27:55,640 --> 02:27:59,000
Speaker 2: in his first opportunity? I gave you my quick thoughts.

2553
02:27:59,240 --> 02:28:01,400
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fradle. We're coming to you live from Las Vegas,

2554
02:28:01,440 --> 02:28:04,760
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio tirack dot com studios. Don't go away

2555
02:28:05,040 --> 02:28:07,280
Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2556
02:28:17,800 --> 02:28:20,520
Speaker 2: All right, wrapping it up on the Bernie Frattle Show.

2557
02:28:21,120 --> 02:28:23,760
Speaker 2: We've been coming to you live from the Las Vegas

2558
02:28:23,800 --> 02:28:28,760
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio tirerac dot com studios. I want to

2559
02:28:28,879 --> 02:28:32,640
Speaker 2: thank my broadcast team back in Los Angeles before we

2560
02:28:32,680 --> 02:28:35,640
Speaker 2: go any further. They've been with me since eleven pm

2561
02:28:35,760 --> 02:28:39,280
Speaker 2: Pacific on Saturday night. That will be Kevin Wirtt on

2562
02:28:39,360 --> 02:28:44,160
Speaker 2: the updates. Of course, our technical producer, Mark Ramsey and

2563
02:28:45,280 --> 02:28:49,240
Speaker 2: Patrick Sweeka, keeping us guys, keeping us glued together, turning

2564
02:28:49,280 --> 02:28:52,240
Speaker 2: all the dials so we can bring this fine a

2565
02:28:52,400 --> 02:28:55,040
Speaker 2: radio show to a greatful nation. Again. Great job as

2566
02:28:55,080 --> 02:28:57,640
Speaker 2: always on what kind of brand new fool of you?

2567
02:28:57,879 --> 02:29:02,000
Speaker 2: As well as what my name? All right? Speaking of

2568
02:29:02,040 --> 02:29:05,920
Speaker 2: what my name, maybe Victor wemben Yama should change his

2569
02:29:06,000 --> 02:29:07,800
Speaker 2: name to Victor what my name only because it might

2570
02:29:07,840 --> 02:29:12,400
Speaker 2: be easier to pronounce. So by now you've seen the

2571
02:29:12,400 --> 02:29:17,840
Speaker 2: debut the NBA Summer League Friday Night, you've perhaps formulated

2572
02:29:17,879 --> 02:29:20,480
Speaker 2: some of your own opinions. Perhaps you have gotten caught

2573
02:29:20,560 --> 02:29:25,240
Speaker 2: up in the group think echo chamber on these various opinions.

2574
02:29:26,280 --> 02:29:28,720
Speaker 2: But I've got some thoughts on my own, and it

2575
02:29:28,800 --> 02:29:32,360
Speaker 2: comes from covering the NBA for a long time. And

2576
02:29:32,440 --> 02:29:36,879
Speaker 2: I would just say this that, first of all, there's

2577
02:29:36,879 --> 02:29:40,720
Speaker 2: no question that Wemby has some talent. He's got handles,

2578
02:29:41,560 --> 02:29:45,040
Speaker 2: he's got guard skills, He's got a wingspan that's crazy

2579
02:29:45,560 --> 02:29:48,600
Speaker 2: seven forty seven. He's shown to have good vision, good

2580
02:29:48,640 --> 02:29:51,760
Speaker 2: passor good instincts. I like the way he handled himself

2581
02:29:52,760 --> 02:29:56,679
Speaker 2: after the game, the postgame interviews, the postgame press conferences.

2582
02:29:57,520 --> 02:30:01,440
Speaker 2: One thing that I think that's concerning is that he

2583
02:30:01,560 --> 02:30:04,320
Speaker 2: got knocked off his pens a lot. In traffic. He

2584
02:30:04,400 --> 02:30:09,400
Speaker 2: got knocked off balanced a lot, especially when trying to rebound. Now,

2585
02:30:09,920 --> 02:30:11,560
Speaker 2: I know what you're gonna say, Well, he's only nineteen

2586
02:30:11,600 --> 02:30:14,879
Speaker 2: years old. I can't buy that. Everybody's been telling us

2587
02:30:14,920 --> 02:30:18,920
Speaker 2: he's an all timer. He is the real deal. Get

2588
02:30:18,920 --> 02:30:23,320
Speaker 2: out of the way. Here we come, world Victor Wemby. Well,

2589
02:30:24,160 --> 02:30:29,920
Speaker 2: I will tell you I saw many quality basketball players

2590
02:30:30,080 --> 02:30:33,280
Speaker 2: at the age of nineteen. Saw Magic Johnson at the

2591
02:30:33,320 --> 02:30:36,400
Speaker 2: age of nineteen. So Darryl Dawkins at the age of nineteen,

2592
02:30:36,480 --> 02:30:39,680
Speaker 2: saw Bill Walton at the age of nineteen, so Lebron

2593
02:30:39,720 --> 02:30:43,039
Speaker 2: at the age of nineteen, saw Kobe Bryant at the

2594
02:30:43,080 --> 02:30:46,280
Speaker 2: age of nineteen, saw lou Al Sendor at the age

2595
02:30:46,320 --> 02:30:50,080
Speaker 2: of nineteen before he became Kareem Abdul Jabbar. That's just

2596
02:30:50,080 --> 02:30:55,600
Speaker 2: just just a handful. And you mentioned Moses Malone as

2597
02:30:55,720 --> 02:31:00,720
Speaker 2: nineteen year olds. That group of names I just mentioned, Well,

2598
02:31:00,840 --> 02:31:04,359
Speaker 2: if you compare them and juxtapose them against Victor Wemby,

2599
02:31:05,160 --> 02:31:08,720
Speaker 2: Victor at this stage of development is nowhere near any

2600
02:31:08,760 --> 02:31:15,560
Speaker 2: of those guys, not anywhere near physically athletically polished. He's

2601
02:31:15,560 --> 02:31:17,800
Speaker 2: got great handles, he's got guard skills. That's why people

2602
02:31:17,840 --> 02:31:23,039
Speaker 2: are so they're jiggy about it, because he dribbles like

2603
02:31:23,080 --> 02:31:26,199
Speaker 2: a point guard and he can pass. He's got good vision.

2604
02:31:26,560 --> 02:31:31,000
Speaker 2: But he's seven foot four. Okay. Now, he made his

2605
02:31:31,240 --> 02:31:37,160
Speaker 2: debut Friday night. And I want to share something else

2606
02:31:37,200 --> 02:31:42,040
Speaker 2: because in addition to those various names I just mentioned,

2607
02:31:42,040 --> 02:31:45,920
Speaker 2: they were all nineteen. At one point, Magic was winning

2608
02:31:45,920 --> 02:31:50,080
Speaker 2: a national championship with Michigan State at nineteen. By the way,

2609
02:31:50,120 --> 02:31:52,640
Speaker 2: when he was twenty, he won one with the Lakers

2610
02:31:52,640 --> 02:31:54,520
Speaker 2: that was an intern at the Forum saw the whole thing.

2611
02:31:54,959 --> 02:31:57,360
Speaker 2: Darryl Dawkins was starting at the NBA in nineteen. Bill

2612
02:31:57,400 --> 02:32:02,320
Speaker 2: Walton was on his first of two championships at EUCLA

2613
02:32:02,360 --> 02:32:05,959
Speaker 2: at age nineteen. Lebron was in his second year in

2614
02:32:05,959 --> 02:32:07,880
Speaker 2: the NBA at age nineteen. Kobe Bryant was in the

2615
02:32:07,959 --> 02:32:11,760
Speaker 2: NBA age nineteen. Duel Sender in his I think second

2616
02:32:11,840 --> 02:32:16,119
Speaker 2: of three or first of three championships at UCLA. Freshmen

2617
02:32:16,160 --> 02:32:18,400
Speaker 2: weren't allowed to start back then, or he would have.

2618
02:32:18,920 --> 02:32:21,000
Speaker 2: So why don't I bring up those names? And because,

2619
02:32:21,720 --> 02:32:24,280
Speaker 2: as I mentioned, with all due respect to Victor woman Yamo,

2620
02:32:24,480 --> 02:32:27,800
Speaker 2: if you're gonna use the excuse of age, well, the

2621
02:32:28,040 --> 02:32:30,160
Speaker 2: stage of development those other guys were in his, you know,

2622
02:32:30,280 --> 02:32:32,960
Speaker 2: victors nowhere near that. But here's the other thing. I've

2623
02:32:32,959 --> 02:32:36,840
Speaker 2: also seen many debuts in the NBA Summer League over

2624
02:32:36,879 --> 02:32:40,959
Speaker 2: the years. I saw Zion Williamson in twenty nineteen, So

2625
02:32:41,160 --> 02:32:47,240
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard back in twenty thirteen, So Devin Booker, Dion Waiters,

2626
02:32:47,600 --> 02:32:52,080
Speaker 2: Andrew Wigins, how about Chris DAPs porsingis every one of

2627
02:32:52,080 --> 02:32:57,880
Speaker 2: those guys also debuted in the NBA Summer League and

2628
02:32:57,920 --> 02:33:01,240
Speaker 2: were far better, far more IMpower actual, far more aggressive,

2629
02:33:01,879 --> 02:33:05,080
Speaker 2: far more skilled. And I mean that at that night,

2630
02:33:05,240 --> 02:33:09,439
Speaker 2: on that night. Now, look, you can't get too excited

2631
02:33:09,600 --> 02:33:13,840
Speaker 2: about the NBA Summer League, even if you are outstanding

2632
02:33:13,879 --> 02:33:16,879
Speaker 2: in the NBA Summer League, because it's twenty percent of

2633
02:33:16,879 --> 02:33:21,600
Speaker 2: an NBA game. It's just simply the calendar, the caliber

2634
02:33:21,600 --> 02:33:27,520
Speaker 2: of play. The bottom line is is that the physicality,

2635
02:33:28,000 --> 02:33:31,440
Speaker 2: the athleticism, the speed of the game, the defense of

2636
02:33:31,480 --> 02:33:34,800
Speaker 2: the game, every bit of it is dramatically different in

2637
02:33:34,840 --> 02:33:37,680
Speaker 2: the NBA versus the NBA Summer League. So I'm not

2638
02:33:37,680 --> 02:33:41,640
Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure what Wmby's Wombeny's role is going

2639
02:33:41,720 --> 02:33:44,879
Speaker 2: to be. When he gets to San Antonio. He gets

2640
02:33:45,000 --> 02:33:47,680
Speaker 2: twenty five to twenty eight minutes a game, right, he'll

2641
02:33:47,720 --> 02:33:49,080
Speaker 2: con on him to do some things. So I think

2642
02:33:49,080 --> 02:33:50,800
Speaker 2: he's gonna be Rookie of the Year. No, not, based

2643
02:33:50,840 --> 02:33:52,840
Speaker 2: on what I've seen. I think he's gonna be Scoot Henderson.

2644
02:33:52,879 --> 02:33:57,240
Speaker 2: Now that's my opinion. But be that as it may.

2645
02:33:57,360 --> 02:33:59,960
Speaker 2: You have to give Winby credit for one thing. Because

2646
02:34:00,080 --> 02:34:02,680
Speaker 2: the fans showed up and showed out Friday night, seventeen

2647
02:34:03,080 --> 02:34:07,000
Speaker 2: five hundred seats sold at the unwast Thomas and Max Center.

2648
02:34:07,040 --> 02:34:10,520
Speaker 2: They were sold out four days before game time. Now,

2649
02:34:10,640 --> 02:34:13,840
Speaker 2: Zion sold out in twenty nineteen, but he sold out

2650
02:34:13,840 --> 02:34:18,360
Speaker 2: the day before Wemby four days before Zion after mark

2651
02:34:18,400 --> 02:34:20,800
Speaker 2: At tickets got up to ninety two bucks for a

2652
02:34:20,879 --> 02:34:25,680
Speaker 2: freaking NBA Summer League game. Hey give it up to Wemby.

2653
02:34:27,280 --> 02:34:30,480
Speaker 2: Vivid Seats reported that the resale listing prices for Friday's

2654
02:34:30,520 --> 02:34:33,840
Speaker 2: game for Wemby's debut reached one hundred and six dollars.

2655
02:34:33,920 --> 02:34:37,920
Speaker 2: It's twenty three percent higher than Zion's debut back in

2656
02:34:38,120 --> 02:34:41,400
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen for the New Orleans Pelicans. By the way,

2657
02:34:42,920 --> 02:34:47,879
Speaker 2: if you wanted to sit courtside for Wemby's debut Friday night,

2658
02:34:48,879 --> 02:34:53,400
Speaker 2: wait for it, wait for it, ticket prices were twelve

2659
02:34:53,520 --> 02:34:58,800
Speaker 2: hundred dollars for a court side seat at an NBA

2660
02:34:59,200 --> 02:35:02,680
Speaker 2: Summer League game. So you gotta give credit to Wemby.

2661
02:35:03,280 --> 02:35:06,800
Speaker 2: They came out to see him and he's just getting started.

2662
02:35:07,480 --> 02:35:09,400
Speaker 2: And I don't know, maybe Britney Spear has proved a

2663
02:35:09,400 --> 02:35:12,080
Speaker 2: point that I believed all along. Right, the reason you

2664
02:35:12,120 --> 02:35:14,920
Speaker 2: go to the NBA Summer League games, it's the inn,

2665
02:35:15,560 --> 02:35:19,400
Speaker 2: it's it's the NBA's versions of Madame Tussaud's You're gonna

2666
02:35:19,400 --> 02:35:24,080
Speaker 2: see every Luminati, every luminary there, past, present, in future,

2667
02:35:24,120 --> 02:35:27,200
Speaker 2: and Wenby is the future. We shall see where he

2668
02:35:27,280 --> 02:35:31,120
Speaker 2: goes from here as he plays again on Sunday Night,

2669
02:35:32,040 --> 02:35:36,080
Speaker 2: Victor Wemby the dance sensation sweep in the Nation that

2670
02:35:36,280 --> 02:35:38,760
Speaker 2: is gonna do it for the Bernie Fratterle show back

2671
02:35:38,800 --> 02:35:41,760
Speaker 2: on these airwaves next Friday, eleven pm. Keep it locked

2672
02:35:41,840 --> 02:35:45,400
Speaker 2: up next Andy Furman and Alex Ferman on Fox Sports

2673
02:35:45,560 --> 02:35:45,920
Speaker 2: Radio