1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast, Power two Clay and Buck Politics, Everybody, 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: let's do it. 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 2: Let's dive into this. 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Spend a lot of time on national security and ideology 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: and Islamophobia the first hour. But let's let's talk here 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: about which I think is a term. I don't even 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: like the term, never mind the political usages of what's 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: going on here. But let's talk politics for a second. 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: We have a Republican debate next week. It'll be here 11 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: in Miami. Clay and I are going we're gonna watch 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: it together. So we're gonna have some kind of discussion 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: about are we doing. 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: You know, what is the best dip? Clay? 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: You know, we need to we need to lock some 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: of these things in, Like what is the dip of choice. 17 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: I like anything that has crab in it. I'll tell 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: you if you could do any kind of like a 19 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: cheese crab situation, that gets me excited, but really any 20 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: version of kso melted cheese. 21 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: Maybe throw some kind of a pork product in there. 22 00:00:59,520 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: I get it. 23 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: I can't stop on dip salsa or any sort of 24 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: French onion dip or anything like that if you put 25 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: chips and dip in front of me, I just I 26 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: don't know that I will ever stop. I mean, I 27 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: don't know that anybody's ever said, you know what, I've 28 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: eaten too many chips in dip. I couldn't eat another bite. 29 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: It feels like that's something that never ends. So I'm 30 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: all in favor of that. 31 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: So we're gonna be having some good snacks because the 32 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: debate we'll see whether it really moves the needle or not. 33 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: Let's just to set the table before we dive into 34 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: some of what the number two right now and really 35 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: the number two the whole time Ron DeSantis is saying 36 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: he is, he is making his pitch and we're gonna 37 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: play some of this. And I want to hear in 38 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: this hour from on the lines, do you think Ron, 39 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: are you still a Ron true believer? 40 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: In this election? 41 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: I'll say this, I mean, I think he's a fabulous governor. 42 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: I give him an a plus as governor in my 43 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: home state here, he's the greatest governor. We're talking about 44 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: the presidential election now, though I'm not talking about whether 45 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: he's a great governor. He's clearly I mean, I think 46 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: it's very hard to make a case he's not a 47 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: very good governor. But he's way behind Trump in this 48 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: presidential election and has been for many many months now, 49 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: and it's go time. So let's look into this. First Up, 50 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: the Messenger, the Messenger dot Com and Harris X here 51 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: have a poll national presidential nomination. Trump is at sixty two, 52 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: DeSantis is at twelve, Haley is at seven. Ramas Swami 53 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: is at six. Pence obviously dropped out. Christy won Scott 54 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: one Ber Okay, so it's Trump, DeSantis, Haley, Ramaswami is 55 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: still at six. So Ramaswami is, you know, just behind Haley. 56 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: But he has certainly lost some momentum in the in 57 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: the polling since what was it, maybe Midsummer. I'd say 58 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: when he was starting to get into some some double 59 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: digit territory. 60 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: I believe of Ague surged after the first debate. A 61 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: lot of people didn't know him. He had a good 62 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: I would say, solid performance, and I would say he 63 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: peaked about when was the first debate, like late August 64 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: am I right on the mat on that I. 65 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: Was scot I was in Scotland, so I was in Scotland. 66 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: So I would say Viveke peaked. 67 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 3: If I were assessing where we are right now, I 68 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: would say his campaign pain peaked around Labor Day and 69 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: has really not taken that next proverbial next step. And 70 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: I would say that DeSantis, you can argue, peaked before 71 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: he even announced in terms of national polling. And I 72 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: would say Nikki Hayley is the one who is still 73 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: going up as we speak right now. 74 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: I think that's that's the way I would assess it 75 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: right now. I think she took some of the wind 76 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: out of the Vake's sales, if you will by really, 77 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: you know, she she took swings. She took swings at him, 78 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: and she took swings at Tim Scott. I'll say what 79 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: she took swings at Viveke. I'm like, all right, you're 80 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: gonna post photos shirtless playing tennis, and like, you know, 81 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: Viveke is, you know, he's he's a bit of a 82 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: brawler out there. 83 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: But with Tim Scott, I was like, oh, well, Tim 84 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: Scott about that. I think even even he acknowledged he 85 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: was surprised. He was surprised that she really after him 86 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: like she did. 87 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so all right, now let's get into it. 88 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: So Ron is out there because he realized he's got 89 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: a huge, a huge gap to try to close here, 90 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: and I'm just interested. We're interested to see one whether 91 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: he's able to get any any momentum. Iowa is the 92 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: one place where I think a lot of a lot 93 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: of the DeSantis supporters and Team DeSantis are expecting he'll 94 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: make a It'll kind of be a first and last 95 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: stand simultaneously, right, it'll be the first real time that 96 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: people vote. But also if Iowa doesn't go for Team DeSantis, 97 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: I think it's going to get very very you know, 98 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: very unlikely that they'll get momentum. You know, after that, 99 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: maybe New Hampshire will see Okay, But Clay, let's let's 100 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: get into some of what he has said here and 101 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: whether this is going this This was interesting. I did 102 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: not expect this answer the way it came out. At 103 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: least here's Ron DeSantis. This is on ms He went 104 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: on MSNBC. He went into the Lions lions Den, which 105 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: which I respect. I think a lot of candidates should 106 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: do that, you know, I mean, Trump sits down with 107 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: Maggie Habron for the New York Times all the time 108 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: to try to talk to that audience. I think it's 109 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: fine to go into lions, then as long as you 110 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: represent who you are and you don't try to pander. 111 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: And he did not do that. 112 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: And I've been going live as important because they won't 113 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: edit it. So he was on Live Morning. Joe DeSantis 114 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 3: was this morning on MSNBC. I think that's smart. We 115 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 3: got some cuts to play for you. Yes, so let's 116 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: start with this one. First off, he's saying Trump is 117 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 3: running this is seventeen. He is saying Trump is running 118 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: a Biden style basement campaign. 119 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: Play it. We are not going to win. 120 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 4: As Republicans by adopting the strategy that Biden did being 121 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: in the basement during the twenty twenty campaign. That's effectively 122 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 4: what Donald Trump's doing. He is refusing to debate. We've 123 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 4: got a lot of issues that this country is facing 124 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 4: right now require steady, focused, strong leadership. 125 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: You got to be able to defend your. 126 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: Record, and you've got to be able to articulate how 127 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 4: you're going to take the country in a better direction. 128 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 4: And so my view ab why you should debate. I mean, look, 129 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 4: I want to fight for people, you know, and Donald 130 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 4: Trump is perceived by Republicans as a fighter, but I 131 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 4: also want to win for people that means winning elections, 132 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 4: but also means winning on these policy fights. 133 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: Clay, if you were up forty or fifty points, would 134 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 2: you debate? No, I would not. 135 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: And look, I will say we were citing a national poll. 136 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 3: Things can change quickly because it's not as if there 137 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 3: are a lot of advertisements running in California or I 138 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: would imagine Texas and Oklahoma all over the country right now, 139 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: everybody's spending money right now in Iowa, and then they're 140 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: spending money in New Hampshire in South Carolina, and I 141 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: would bet that's like ninety five percent of the money 142 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: that's being spent right now is being spent in those 143 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: three states by all candidates. But to me, if Trump 144 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: gets on the stage, he legitimizes his challengers. If I 145 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: were running, I would a billion percent want him on 146 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: the stage. And so I don't begrudge DeSantis making that argument, 147 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: Nikki Haley making that argument the vague anybody he's. 148 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: Got to I mean, they've got to make that argument. 149 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: And this was I think the fatal flaw off for 150 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: the campaign for Veke all along was you can't want 151 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: to be the guy when you're praising somebody else as 152 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: the guy. 153 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: It's hard to say. It's hard to be. 154 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 3: Basically, what Viveke is saying is Donald Trump, for a 155 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: sports analogy, is Peyton Manning one of the greatest quarterbacks 156 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 3: who's ever lived. But I'll be Tom Brady, right, it's 157 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: hard to argue that the person you're trying to get 158 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: over is, you know, one of the great. 159 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: There's only one QB. 160 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: But there's only one QB jobs played, right, There's only 161 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: one job, so we can't you know, it's not like 162 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: he can be a great on his team. Not I 163 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: give you a great on my team. There's only one president, 164 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: only one slot. So if you don't think, if you're 165 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: not willing to say you're better than the other person 166 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: in the role, you're not going to get the role. 167 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: So that was and I saw that all along, and 168 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: I think I was pretty honest about that, as much 169 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: as Vivike did have some very good moments on the 170 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: debate stage, et cetera. Okay, but back to just so 171 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: we both Zanas has to make the case that Trump 172 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: needs to go on stage. Trump is not going to 173 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: go on stage, so that doesn't really change very much. 174 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: Going after Trump as a big spender. Does this move 175 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: the needle at all play eighteen. 176 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: I was there for the first two years of the 177 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: Trump administration. There was a faction of us in the 178 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 4: House that was urging him not to just sign these 179 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: big omnibus spending bills. But he signed every spending bill 180 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 4: that ever got to his desk, culminating in a big 181 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: gusher of spending his last year in office, which of 182 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 4: course ended up adding seven point eight trillion to the 183 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 4: debt in one four year period as a president. Under 184 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 4: the four years of Trump, he added almost as much 185 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 4: to the debt as Obama did in eight years, and 186 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 4: so there was no sense of fiscal restraint there. 187 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: Does this dent the armor at all? 188 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: Look, I think the only way you can beat Trump, 189 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: and I have said this from the gig No. I 190 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 3: think the answer is no. I mean, I think that 191 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: the people who are going to be focused on government 192 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: spending already know this, and I think it's hard to 193 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: move the needle on that. 194 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: The only I think the only way to beat Trump. 195 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 3: This is my personal opinion. I think you have to say, 196 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: and they're not willing to do this because they're afraid. 197 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 3: I think you have to say Trump lost in twenty twenty. 198 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: I'm saying if I'm running against him and he will 199 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: lose in twenty twenty four if we put him up 200 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: against Biden again, I think you have to attack Trump 201 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: and say exactly that, and you have to say it 202 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: over and over and over again. 203 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: The challenge with that is there are a lot. 204 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: Of Republican voters who don't want to hear it and 205 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: so don't believe it and don't believe it, and so 206 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: that's the only way you win. Because here's the deal. 207 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: I am focused. All I care about is winning, right 208 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: I am al Davis. Just win baby. I mean, I 209 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: wrote American Playbook. It's like, this is how you win. 210 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: And I want to win comfortably. I don't want to 211 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: be awake late at night worried about whether a fire 212 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: alarm is going to go off in Fulton County. I 213 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: don't want to worry about whether the voting machines are 214 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 3: going to work in Marcopa County. I don't want to 215 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: worry about what's going to happen in Milwaukee or Detroit, 216 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: or Philadelphia or Pittsburgh, because you know the Democrats are 217 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: going to pull every lever they can. 218 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: Now. The challenge buck is if you go balls to 219 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: the Wall. 220 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: With that argument, you might not win, and you might 221 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: also mortally wound yourself in the twenty twenty campaign, because 222 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 3: right now, I think Trump. 223 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: Is going to win. 224 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: Right if we were, if an election was, you know, 225 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: Tuesday coming up in twenty twenty four, you. 226 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: Said the twenty twenty campaign, You mean the twenty twenty 227 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: four campaign, right. 228 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: Well, if you lose, sorry if you if you make 229 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: that argument and you lose in twenty twenty four, I 230 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: think it impacts you in twenty twenty eight. 231 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: I think people, Yeah, I think people. 232 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: Remember because the big takeaway here and I think we're 233 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: starting to think about how this plays out is even 234 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: if you lose in twenty twenty four, you want to 235 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 3: be super viable in twenty twenty eight. So for people 236 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 3: out there who are stepping down, yeah, that's why. 237 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: That's why Glenn Youngkin's not running in this cycle, I 238 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: think because he's seen what's going on here with the 239 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: with the Trump base, and it's just it's the strength 240 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: of it, the the it's implacable, it's it's unmovable, it's uh, 241 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: it's ossified. I mean, it is there. What can you, 242 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: mister vocab you know, thrown it out there a little bit, 243 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: and I think, uh, I think Young Kin, for example, 244 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: somebody who figures you know what you don't want to get. 245 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't say this in any 246 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: kind of a I don't mean this in a mean way, 247 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,479 Speaker 1: but you know, I mean, I think Marco Rubio's presidential 248 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: prospects were damaged by the twenty sixteen campaign. Now he's 249 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: still a senator and he's still doing his thing, and 250 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: that's fine. But I think that sometimes getting in the 251 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: race against Trump doesn't lead you in a better in 252 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: a better spot the next time around. Is that the 253 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: case with the Sanswers or not with shell cre And 254 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: that's that's why I'm saying Buck. The question they're going 255 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: to have to decide at some point is how much 256 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: are you really going to go at the King? 257 00:11:58,760 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 5: Yeah? 258 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: Is it all? Yeah? 259 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: Of course, if you come at the King, you best 260 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: not miss Omar's best line from the wire. I believe 261 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: that actor passed away recently. 262 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: I think you're right, But I think there are a 263 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 3: lot of guys who may be coming at the King 264 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 3: and missing. And if Trump goes down, if Trump loses, 265 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: I don't think you're harmed as much in twenty eight. 266 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: But if Trump wins, it's gonna be hard to get 267 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: people who really supported Trump to come back into your camp. 268 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: And I think that's the calculus everybody's playing with her. 269 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: I want to know, do we have right now listening 270 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: and wanted to call in to make their case Team 271 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: Ron folks who still see the pathway and who think 272 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: that because we get the emails, we get some angry 273 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: We get angry emails, not even because we look we 274 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: have never endorsed. We're just talking about what the polls 275 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: are saying and what looks likely based on the numbers. 276 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: But people say, don't say that Trump is you know, likely, 277 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: or don't say that Trump is is almost certainly or 278 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: anything like that. So eight hundred two A two two 279 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: eight A two and clay let let's let's come back 280 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: to this question. 281 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: Same thing for Nicki Haley too, by the way, because 282 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: I think those are the only three that you could 283 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: really make a case for right now. If we get 284 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: if we get some Nicky Haley callers, maybe there exists, 285 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: Maybe they exist out there. We know we got a 286 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 3: lot of the scientists, and we know we got a 287 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: lot of Trump. Maybe there's Nicky Haley just steadfast. 288 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: And if we don't take any it's because we're not 289 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: getting the calls from them, which means this audience may 290 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: be all in on you know, we may be at 291 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: the like eighty ninety percent all in on Trump phase 292 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: of things here. But should the party this is a 293 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: question post Ronda Santis, should the party nominate Trump if 294 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: he is convicted in one of these felony trials. Clay, 295 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: Let's return to this. Let's play this. Let's return to this, 296 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: because I this, this was a moment. This is an 297 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: interesting question to pose to the number two in the 298 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: presidential election GOP primary right now. We'll get back to 299 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: that in a second. 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That's MA 325 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: and tisx dot com. 326 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: Make an appointment with the truth. 327 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: Tune in every day to the Clay Travis and Buck 328 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: Sexton Show. 329 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: Welcome back in. 330 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging 331 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: out with us US. Is this the first time you've 332 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 3: heard DeSantis make this argument? We're talking about DeSantis went 333 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: on Morning Joe MSNBC this morning, right into the lions Den. 334 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 3: As we have complimented Trump for doing the CNN town hall, 335 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 3: sometimes you have to go and talk to the people 336 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 3: who otherwise claim that they hate you. And so why 337 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: you say you're going into the lions Den to make 338 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: your arguments? And DeSantis made the argument, I at least 339 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: haven't seen it made explicitly that if Trump is convicted 340 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: of a felony, he shouldn't be the nominee. 341 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: Listen to this inner change. This is cut nineteen. 342 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 6: Do you really believe that a man who's convicted of, say, 343 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 6: attempting to overturn the twenty twenty election or taking nuclear 344 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 6: secrets back to his beach club, do you actually still, 345 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 6: as we see here today, believe that person should be president. 346 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 4: So I signed a pledge, and that pledge is what 347 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 4: it is. 348 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 5: Now. 349 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 4: Do I think somebody under those circumstances could get elected president? 350 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 4: The answer is no, that will not happen. I think 351 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 4: that Republican voters will understand that as we get closer 352 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 4: to voting, but it is it would be fatal in 353 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: a general election. I don't think the party should should 354 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 4: nominate in that situation. 355 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: So you have to say this here saying Clay he'll 356 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: support the nominee if the nominee is Trump. But if 357 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: that nominee is convicted and either of the felony federal 358 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: felony trials that he faces, then it's fatal for the 359 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: general election. 360 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: Bull. I don't buy that argument. I don't know if 361 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: you do. 362 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: The more and more I look at this, I think 363 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: Biden's weakness is the story here more than who the 364 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: Republican nominee is. If people get fired up when I 365 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 3: say this, I don't think Trump's the only person who 366 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 3: can beat Biden. I think Desantas and Nikki Haley would 367 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: both beat Biden as well. I think vive K Ramaswami 368 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: would beat Biden. I think, really, yeah, I do. I 369 00:16:54,080 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: think that they're you. I think Nikki Hayley might win 370 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 3: the biggest landslide of all those people. Personally, just looking 371 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: at the data, I think Nicky Haley could win comfortably. Now, 372 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 3: I also understand that there are people out there who 373 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 3: would say, and I think there's a valid argument DeSantis, 374 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 3: Nicki Haley. The vague whoever it would be, has not 375 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: been chewed up and put through the we're going to 376 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: turn even Mitt Romney into like the devil, right. I mean, 377 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: Mitt Romney is the most blandly and offensive human being 378 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: who's maybe ever existed in politics, and they turned him 379 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: into like a right wing ideologue by the time he 380 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 3: came through the car wash, so to speak, of the 381 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 3: electoral cycle. So I do think those people would get attacked. 382 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 3: But I think that increasingly whatever happens in the court 383 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 3: is already baked in. It doesn't seem to be moving 384 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 3: the needle at all to me. What's going on with 385 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: all this law fair. 386 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 2: I think that is. I think that's correct. 387 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that the legal challenges are going to 388 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: make all that much difference. 389 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: We'll see. 390 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: My cell phone company, Puretalk, is doing something monumental for 391 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: our military veterans leading up to Veterans Day. They're raising 392 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: ten million dollars to reduce debt brought on by our 393 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: returning veterans going into the private sector and who are 394 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: facing tough financial challenges. 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He writes, Fellas, can you 414 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: imagine how jealous Trump will be at for DeSantis kicks 415 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: Newsom's butt in their November thirtieth debate. 416 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: Mark, I don't think Trump's gonna care. That's my sense 417 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: of it. I don't I don't know. 418 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but I don't think I will 419 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: watch that debate. But I don't think and I think 420 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: it's smart for DeSantis to do. 421 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: But I don't think Trump's gonna watch that debate. Yeah, 422 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 2: I don't. 423 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: I think Trump will ignore the whole thing. Frederick writes, 424 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: DeSantis lies quite a bit. Trump is holding rallies all 425 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: over Iowa, He's visiting New Hampshire. DeSantis mints Mince's words, 426 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: like an unethical lawyer. 427 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 3: Frederick not a speaking as an unethical lawyer. 428 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: Buck. 429 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: I actually don't think DeSantis lies like compared to a 430 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: lot of politicians out there. But the Democrats standard for 431 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 3: lie is so high, highly set. I think it's hard 432 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: to argue that desantas in. 433 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: Ling Senator Marshah Blackburn with us now from Tennessee Center. 434 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: Appreciate you calling in. 435 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 5: I'm delighted to join you. Thank you so much for 436 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 5: having me. 437 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: So let's let's start here with what was your What 438 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: was your reaction to the Biden administration given all that's 439 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: going on with Israel and Gaza and Hamas unveiling its 440 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: strategy to combat Islamophobia yesterday. 441 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 5: You have to listen to some things that are said 442 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 5: from this White House and say they have to be 443 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 5: tone deaf. How could they possibly move forward with that 444 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 5: when you have hamas a recognized terrorist organization, recognized as 445 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 5: such by the US and our allies, have carried out 446 00:20:53,080 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 5: these attacks on Israel, killing Israelis in their homes, in 447 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 5: their communities, and beheading babies, burning babies in the ovens, 448 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 5: killing grandparents in front of their kids, and children in 449 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 5: front of their parents. How could they possibly not talk 450 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 5: about what has happened to the people of Israel. 451 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 3: Senator, appreciate you joining us. There's a lot of talk 452 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 3: now about Israeli AID, Ukrainian AID, Taiwanese aid. The Biden 453 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 3: administration is trying to roll that all together into one 454 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 3: big bill. I believe that costs over one hundred billion dollars. 455 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 3: My understanding is the House is going to first pass 456 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 3: a bill that focuses on Israel. Should this be one bill, 457 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: should it be individual bills? How do you think this 458 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 3: should be handled? 459 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 5: I think the process of moving forward with Israel AID 460 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 5: stand alone by itself, addressing those issues is important, you know, Clay. 461 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 5: One of the things that's so important in this discussion 462 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 5: is Israel can tell you exactly what they need and 463 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 5: exactly of how many of whatever it is that they need. 464 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 5: There is not any ambiguity there. That's important to this process. 465 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 5: And giving Israel what they need to defend themselves is important. 466 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 5: Making certain they have what they need in order to 467 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 5: defeat Hamas and rid the face of the earth of Hamas. 468 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 5: That is an important part of this. Now. If you 469 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 5: want to then turn and take up Ukraine aid, which 470 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 5: is a completely different issue, and we have got to 471 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 5: have some accountability and transparency around the Ukraine dollars, whether 472 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 5: it is for humanitarian aid or some of their government 473 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 5: infrastructure or their military. There has to be some accountability. 474 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 5: Right now, we're about seventy five billion dollars in on Ukraine, 475 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 5: so we want to take this time and figure out 476 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 5: what has happened. Now. Nobody wants Vladimir Putin to get 477 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 5: a win, nobody, but at the same time we have 478 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 5: to have some transparency. Also, it is imperative that we 479 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 5: secure that southern border. Look at what we had the 480 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 5: first couple of weeks of October. At that southern border, 481 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 5: you had thirty Iranians, thirty five pakistanis one hundred Russians 482 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 5: in two thousand Chinese come to that border and present 483 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 5: themselves and ask for asylum. This year you've had one 484 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty one known terrorists come to that border 485 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 5: and claim asylum, and border patrol will tell you they 486 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 5: have got to have a barrier, They've got to have 487 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 5: more agents and officers. They need technology where they cannot 488 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 5: get a barrier, and we have to stop this flow 489 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 5: coming into the country. You have people from countries of 490 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 5: interest by the thousands coming in here and DHS may 491 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 5: ORCUS is doing nothing to track these people. When these 492 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 5: terrorists are apprehended, we don't know what they're doing with them, 493 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 5: but we know they're not sending them to get Mo, 494 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 5: which is where terrorists ought to be sent. So the 495 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 5: border and the open nature of this, the fact that 496 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 5: you've got got aways that are coming to that border, 497 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 5: and you've got the worst of the worst, the gang members, 498 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 5: the terrorists, those that are drug dealers and human traffickers. 499 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 5: They're the ones and the god aways, they're the ones 500 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 5: that don't want to get caught. 501 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 3: Senator, you're a mom and your grandma. When you see 502 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: all these young people rallying to support Hamas, rallying to 503 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 3: support Palestine, opposing Israel's right to defend itself, what do 504 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 3: you think. 505 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 5: I just it's astounding to me. That they are doing this, 506 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 5: and that the universities you're letting this happen. As I said, 507 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 5: the US recognizes and has for the last couple of decades, 508 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 5: has recognized Hamas as a terrorist group, and these universities 509 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 5: are letting these students go out here and rally in 510 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 5: support of terrorism, Rally in support of people that say 511 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 5: death to America, death to Israel. Rally in support of 512 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 5: an organization who in their bylaws, in their bylaws they 513 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 5: talk about one of their goals being the annihilation of 514 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 5: the State of Israel. They rally in support of Hamas, 515 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 5: an organization that has a leader that goes out and 516 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 5: gives an interview and says, we intended to do all 517 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 5: the damage we did on October seventh, and guess what, 518 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 5: We're going to do it again and again and again 519 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 5: until we annihilate Israel. Think about that. This is absurd. 520 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 5: And I will tell you, Clay, this is one of 521 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 5: the reasons that Senator Jackie Rose and I had our 522 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 5: resolution to condemn this, and we were joined by Senator 523 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 5: Van Holland and Senator Langford as primary co sponsors, and 524 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 5: then our resolution condemning these actions passed off the floor 525 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 5: of the US Senate last Thursday, and it did it 526 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 5: with a unanimous vote, nobody objected. And I wish we 527 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 5: would see that kind of solidarity and support for Israel 528 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 5: all across the country. People need to realize that these 529 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 5: terrorist organizations, whether it's SAMAS or Hesbalo, or the Husis 530 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 5: or ISIS Syria, ISIS or Rocks, we've got a porous border. 531 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 5: We've got these terrorist organizations that would love to get 532 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 5: people in the country into their terrorist sales, and we 533 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 5: are making ourselves vulnerable because we are not securing our 534 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 5: southern border. 535 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: Senator Marshall Blackbird of Tennessee, Senator, thanks for being here 536 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: with us. 537 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 5: You got it. Take care bye. 538 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 3: She's doing great work. And you know what could help 539 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: a lot of you out there. It's Thursday night. 540 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 2: Buck. You know what I had to do. 541 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: I'd take anap because tonight is the Steelers Titans game, 542 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 3: and I know my boys, my kids are gonna want 543 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: to stay up late and watch Thursday night football. And 544 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: I say, you know what, I'm gonna take a little 545 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 3: nap before before it gets late night. 546 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 2: Get a little bit older. 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Check it out today, 564 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 3: c hoq dot com. 565 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: You don't know what you don't know right, but you could. 566 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck. 567 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: Podcast, Welcome Ackga in Clay Plate, Travis Buck Sexton Show. 568 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 3: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're gonna 569 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: take some of your calls, and we've got a bunch 570 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: of you that want to weigh in on a variety 571 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: of different topics that we've had so far. Giving you 572 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 3: a heads up. Daniel Cameron, who we hope will be 573 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: the next governor of the state of Kentucky, is going 574 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 3: to join us in the next hour as we sit here, 575 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 3: what five days from election day twenty twenty three, So 576 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: a lot of you listening to us in Kentucky can 577 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: make the difference there, and as I said, ensure that 578 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 3: Kentucky is not the only state in the South with 579 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 3: a Democrat governor. 580 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: But let's go some of these calls. 581 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: Jen in Daytona Beach, Florida. Jen, what you got for us? 582 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 7: Hey, Yeah, I was just calling. I work at a 583 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 7: flea market that's right behind the International Speedway, and I 584 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 7: wish Governor DeSantis would come and maybe do some recom work. 585 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 7: President Trump is the clear favorite there. Everybody there is 586 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 7: voting for him. I don't like Blanket, like, I don't 587 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 7: know everybody that I talked to and Nerdsantis when he 588 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 7: was running, Like there are flags everywhere for both Desantas 589 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 7: and Trump, but it's President Trump. That people are going 590 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 7: to vote for in the primary. And if DeSantis wants 591 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 7: to know why, honestly, he should just spend a Friday 592 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 7: or a Saturday there and he would know, Like it's 593 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 7: not wouldn't be difficult. 594 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: Has that changed at all, because obviously DeSantis wins a 595 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 3: big election in November of twenty two, and let's say December, Gin, 596 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: were you and your friends all still on Trump or 597 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: has it evolved during the course of the past year. 598 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 7: No, Well, it's the same. Like once when just when 599 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 7: Governor DeSantis said he was running for president, like a 600 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 7: lot of a lot of people I talked to and 601 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 7: myself kind of included, like we were frustrated, Like I 602 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 7: mean like locally, like homeowners insurance is out of control here, 603 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 7: Like it kind of felt like an abandonment. Like we 604 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 7: see him in Iowa and he's in all ninety nine 605 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 7: counties there and it's like, whoa, it's kind of appear 606 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 7: too And we know what President Trump did, we know 607 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 7: what he's capable of. We also know what DeSantis is 608 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 7: capable of. But for me personally, I wish he would 609 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 7: have waited. It's like he could have finished his term 610 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 7: and in twenty twenty six, and he had two solid 611 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 7: years to campaign for president in twenty twenty eight. And 612 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 7: I think a lot of people that I mean, like 613 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 7: the people that we talked to, were kind of frustrated 614 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 7: in like the governing that's happening now versus I mean, 615 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 7: he was fantastic governor. Destants was fantastic during COVID. I mean, 616 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,239 Speaker 7: did they've been there for twenty third years and then 617 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 7: all of a sudden they had no income? 618 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 5: Right? 619 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 7: But he like because of the way he governs the state, 620 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 7: because of the way things happened, we were able to 621 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 7: get back to life right. 622 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 3: And I don't think we want to get a couple 623 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: more calls to en I don't think. I think Buck, 624 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 3: you and I agree DeSantis is the best governor in 625 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 3: the country. Yeah, I mean you, for to a certain extent, 626 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 3: were willing to move to Florida. If if Andrew Gillham 627 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 3: had ended up getting elected governor of Florida, I doubt 628 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 3: that you would have left New York. The move to 629 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 3: Florida was a basically vote of confidence in the governance 630 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 3: that we saw during COVID. And that was true, true 631 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 3: for me, true for former President Trump and all of 632 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 3: his adult children too, By the way, the move to 633 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 3: Florida during COVID. I think I think Eric still lives 634 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: in New York, but I think the rest of them 635 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 3: all live in Florida now. So I know Ivanka and 636 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 3: Don Junior do Rebecca and Lincoln Nebraska? Rebecca, what have 637 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 3: you got for us? 638 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 5: Hi? 639 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 8: Earlier you had said something like, if there was a 640 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 8: nominee that wasn't Trump, would the Trump faithful coalesce around 641 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 8: a different nominee? And I think that's super hypothetical, right 642 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 8: because he's likely to be the nominee in my circle. 643 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 8: Or I think a better question would be, if Trump 644 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 8: is the nominee, would non Trump supporters be willing to 645 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 8: coalesce around Trump? And increasingly I know and hear from 646 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 8: or about people who are not willing to support another 647 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 8: Trump candidacy. So I think a better question, or maybe 648 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 8: that would get us further, would be would non Trump 649 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 8: supporters support another Trump run? And I don't know. I 650 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 8: think there's a very galvanized group of people who are 651 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 8: not willing to and so I don't know what that 652 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 8: looks like moving forward. 653 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: So you think that they would go they would go 654 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: third party, They would just not show up or do 655 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: they I assume they're not going to vote for Joe Biden. 656 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 8: That's a great question. No, they certainly wouldn't vote for 657 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 8: Joe Biden. I don't know. I can't. I don't know, 658 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 8: but I do know that discouragement's really powerful. I tend 659 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 8: to think, if I know, for some people, if they 660 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 8: didn't feel like they have someone to represent them, they 661 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 8: would just not show up. Like That's how powerful the 662 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 8: discouragement is for some time. 663 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: I think, thank you for the call. 664 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 3: I certainly understand and Buck, I imagine you do too, 665 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: the argument that Trump has alienated a certain segment of 666 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: the of the voting public and that it is impossible 667 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 3: for him to win. I think that Biden is so 668 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 3: bad that electability has not been as big of a 669 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 3: focus as maybe we thought it would be in November 670 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 3: and December of twenty two. As we sit here in 671 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 3: November of twenty three, I'm of the opinion that there 672 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 3: are a bunch of Republican candidates that will beat Biden 673 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 3: if Biden is the nominee. Yes, I think there are 674 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 3: several nominees that are running right now for candidates. 675 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 2: I love your optimism. I do not share it. So 676 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: this is the This is good though. 677 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: This is good because otherwise we'd be two guys sitting 678 00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: here saying it's good. 679 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: Clay. 680 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: The Democrat machine is ruthless, formidable, highly highly moneyed, and. 681 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 2: Uh, you know fun. 682 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 3: So let's pretend right now we're sitting on what is 683 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 3: November second, whatever day it is November second. 684 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 2: I think if you. 685 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 3: Had a million dollars and you could only bet it, 686 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 3: you don't get to keep it, you have to bet it, 687 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 3: but you get a million dollars even money. You take 688 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 3: a Democrat nominee could be Biden or someone else, or 689 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: you take the Republican nominee could be Trump or someone else. 690 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 2: Who would you think in a year, who would you 691 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 2: put your million on? 692 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: Wait, so it's I have to put my money on 693 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: either Biden or basically Republican. 694 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, just basically the report, because I do think it's 695 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 3: going to be trum Biden. Okay, So that's that's first. Okay, 696 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: So it's gonna get a million dollars down. You think 697 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 3: Biden is going to get way, I'm saying. 698 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm saying it's going to be very close. 699 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: And I think, I mean, I think of I think 700 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 1: the Veke Ramaswami would definitely lose to Joe Biden. 701 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: Oh, I think the would beat him. I mean, I 702 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 2: love where your head's at. I think that's crazy. Of 703 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: course I would. I would be frustrated with the country 704 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: if the Veke didn't beat him. 705 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: But I just think that you know, there's there's there's machinery, 706 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: there's name recognition, there's there's you know, experience, there's all 707 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: these things that would come into play. 708 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 3: I think there are four candidates that I have seen 709 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 3: that I think would beat Biden. That is I think 710 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 3: you agree with me on three, Nikki Haley, the Santist Trump. 711 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 3: I think the Veke would as well, So we agree 712 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 3: on they could. I think they all could. 713 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: I also think the election is going to look very, 714 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: very very different twelve months from now that than it 715 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: is now in ways that I can't even begin to anticipate. 716 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: And Clay they're sneaky, they cheat, they're nasty, Like you know, 717 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 1: the is so bad. 718 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 3: There are a lot of people that could win them.