WEBVTT - A&G Replay Monday Hour Three 

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Arm Strong, and Gatti and he arm Strong and Getty Strong.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I got a couple of stories. One of

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<v Speaker 3>them I told before, and I got to be vague

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<v Speaker 3>about them because they're They're real life stories people have

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<v Speaker 3>told me, and I don't want them to get in

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<v Speaker 3>trouble for.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, passing along more or less confidential information.

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<v Speaker 3>But I told the story a while back about somebody

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<v Speaker 3>who was talking to a group of working class assault

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<v Speaker 3>of the Earth gentlemen, the last kind of dudes that

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<v Speaker 3>you would ever think that.

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<v Speaker 2>This would be a thing for.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not talking about like some Berkeley androgynous poetry majors.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about like work in class, work with their

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<v Speaker 3>hands guys, blue collar guys, talking about how much they

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<v Speaker 3>enjoyed the companionship of the female chatbots when they came

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<v Speaker 3>home from you know, a long day in the field

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<v Speaker 3>at night, and how you know they listen to them

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<v Speaker 3>and understand them and they look forward to it all

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<v Speaker 3>day long, and that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought, wow, I mean, if.

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<v Speaker 3>That crowd can fall under the sway of this in

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<v Speaker 3>its current form, mankind is doomed. No, I've never tried it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I almost don't want to because I have some

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<v Speaker 3>concern with like a lot of other things that I've

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<v Speaker 3>dismissed and joked about, and find it more appealing than

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like it to be.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I would hope that your oogie factor would

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<v Speaker 4>overcome that temptation, but your illustration of the sort of

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<v Speaker 4>fellows who like it is troubling.

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<v Speaker 3>Although I'm luckily I'm not. I don't feel trapped in

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<v Speaker 3>a lonely world like a lot of people do. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you feel like it's, you know, you're lonely and

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<v Speaker 3>it's really difficult out there to meet people and everything

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<v Speaker 3>like that, then this answer comes along.

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<v Speaker 2>It must feel good to you.

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<v Speaker 3>So a slightly different version of this, and also a

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<v Speaker 3>real life story Mom was telling me the other day,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a troubling story from the beginning, as the

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<v Speaker 3>daughter involved as twelve, but let's go with thirteen because

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<v Speaker 3>it's they're close enough to thirteen but still are Actually

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<v Speaker 3>twelve had ended up in a situation by being in

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<v Speaker 3>a friend's house or whatever. This seventeen year old boy

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<v Speaker 3>was hitting on this young girl in a way that

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<v Speaker 3>they shouldn't if they weren't a creep, but they were,

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<v Speaker 3>and apparently they are a very handsome, smooth talking dude,

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<v Speaker 3>so really got the attention of this quite young girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, mom gets contacted by the school saying, hey, we

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<v Speaker 3>are taking a look at your kid's search history and

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<v Speaker 3>computer use because.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you know this, maybe you don't. I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 2>had kids in public school.

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<v Speaker 3>They allow you to use the Chromebook or you buy

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<v Speaker 3>your own Chromebook, but you have to be on the

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<v Speaker 3>school system and they have the right to check and

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<v Speaker 3>see what stuff you're doing on that computer, which I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 2>With, but they have a variety of.

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<v Speaker 3>Protection programs that you know, if you're eighth grade boys

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<v Speaker 3>looking at porn on the Chromebook, the school will contact

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<v Speaker 3>you and say, hey, your kid's using a Chromebook for porn,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you know, you talk to them or step

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<v Speaker 3>in or do whatever, and then if you continue doing it,

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<v Speaker 3>there's penalties down the road.

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<v Speaker 4>But the squad in many schools, if you say I'm

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<v Speaker 4>I want to be transgender, then they won't tell your parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent point.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that is really good. Caught your thirteen year old

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<v Speaker 3>looking at naked women. Oh no, what a shock. Your

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen year old wants to become a woman. Keep it

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<v Speaker 3>on the down low a mom and dad's business. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>good point. But so anyway, this mom got contacted by

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<v Speaker 3>the school. Hey, your twelve year old daughter's computer was

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<v Speaker 3>showing them on this site talking to an advice chat bot,

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<v Speaker 3>sex chat bot. I guess it's particularly in the area

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<v Speaker 3>of sex advice. That's twelve year old and mom. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't remember from reading the back and forth or asking

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<v Speaker 3>the kid now, but either way found out the kid

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<v Speaker 3>was regularly going on this sex chat bot to get

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<v Speaker 3>advice on how to please a seventeen year old boy,

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<v Speaker 3>and really like got addicted and it'd be too much,

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<v Speaker 3>but like really kind of obsessed with, you know, as

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<v Speaker 3>soon as you get home from school, checking in with

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<v Speaker 3>the chat bot and see what the latest advice is

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<v Speaker 3>on how to please a seventeen year old boy.

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<v Speaker 2>And it just became a like hard to break cycle. Wow. Wow, Now.

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<v Speaker 3>If there had been I can't imagine it when I

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<v Speaker 3>was like thirteen, fourteen years old. You know, when you're

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<v Speaker 3>a young man starting to understand things your body is

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<v Speaker 3>capable of doing, or certain urges that can be.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoyed in a certain way, and there had been some.

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<v Speaker 3>Sort of chatbot I could talk to that would tell

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<v Speaker 3>me sexy stories or do whatever. Oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 3>would have never been I don't know how you got

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<v Speaker 3>me out my room, but you know, so you can

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<v Speaker 3>have the sex talk with your kids. They're having the

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<v Speaker 3>sex talk with some chatbot.

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<v Speaker 4>What's really interesting is that, so far as far as

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<v Speaker 4>I can observe, the premature sexualization of children, which the

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<v Speaker 4>left is so enthusiastic about, has mostly resulted in people

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<v Speaker 4>not pairing off, not actually having sex, not having relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>An interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Coexistence of those two things, although it makes intuitive sense

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<v Speaker 3>that there would be some, maybe most, who having their

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<v Speaker 3>normal development blocked in this way, if you can picture

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<v Speaker 3>that as a metaphor, A lot of people go to

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<v Speaker 3>the left toward this is all sick and weird and

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<v Speaker 3>I can't handle it never mind, and some people will

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<v Speaker 3>go to the right being hyper sexualized, addicted to pornography, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to me, is the.

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<v Speaker 4>Step by step natural progression of the way you become

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<v Speaker 4>aware of the world in adulthood, everything from sex to

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<v Speaker 4>taxes and responsibility and paying bills and real, deep emotional

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<v Speaker 4>relationships with another adult. That's an inch by inch process

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<v Speaker 4>for the entire history of mankind, except now now, and

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<v Speaker 4>I can't resist another shot at the left.

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<v Speaker 2>Forgive me. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>You go to your woke school where you're immediately sexualized

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<v Speaker 4>and you're surrounded by poor or whatever, and that step

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<v Speaker 4>by step is like vaulting a mile at a time

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<v Speaker 4>in a way that their poor young minds and hearts

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<v Speaker 4>can't handle.

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<v Speaker 2>It's incredibly troubling to me. I know, I can't imagine.

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<v Speaker 3>Learning all the things that I learned, like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>little by little, inch by inch over a period of years,

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<v Speaker 3>and just got dumped on me, you know, like a

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<v Speaker 3>bucket on my head, a lot of it, really bad

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<v Speaker 3>ideas and bad advice.

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<v Speaker 2>And all kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, so you're gonna have the sex talk

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<v Speaker 3>with your teenage daughter to make sure she's said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>she's fine and she's got you know, you're not the

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<v Speaker 3>only role model for them. They've got another role model.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the AI bot that they get to talk to.

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<v Speaker 3>And apparently it's a thing like they this person became

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<v Speaker 3>aware of it from friends because that's what the friends

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<v Speaker 3>are doing too, And God, knows what sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the whole garbage in, garbage out?

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<v Speaker 4>Why is why are AI systems woke? Well, because the

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<v Speaker 4>people programming them are and blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>You got that issue as well.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I keep every time we talk about this

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<v Speaker 4>sort of thing, I have the same urge toward you know,

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<v Speaker 4>some sort of fundamentalist subcultural civilization or community or or

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<v Speaker 4>you know, build your own compound or something. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>people I'd say, yeah, we're fundamentalists, and they say, like

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<v Speaker 4>religious fundamentalist, No, Islamic fundamentalists. No, no, no, no, we're

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<v Speaker 4>just fun to. We just concentrate on the fundamentals of life,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, whatever you want. And know I'm not a

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<v Speaker 4>cult leader, and no I'm not sexing up the young women,

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<v Speaker 4>which tends to be an inevitable thing in these little

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<v Speaker 4>off hue communities. But yeah, we just there's a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of the modern world that sucks. Oh do you like

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<v Speaker 4>not do medicines and stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, no, no, we do medicines and vaccinations, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and all this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we you know, we're not lunatics.

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<v Speaker 3>We've just we've learned to separate the wheat from the

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<v Speaker 3>chaff of the modern world because and this is this

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<v Speaker 3>is so obvious and so fundamental it almost seems stupid

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<v Speaker 3>to say.

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<v Speaker 4>But we all, as human beings, tend to be swept up.

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<v Speaker 4>And we talked about this a couple of days ago

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<v Speaker 4>in fascinating fashion. We all tend to be swept up

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<v Speaker 4>by the culture and assume everything that is offered to

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<v Speaker 4>us is something we ought to take in.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not true.

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<v Speaker 3>There is some wheat, but there's some not only chaff,

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<v Speaker 3>but poison, like thumbtacks in the wheat of.

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<v Speaker 2>The modern world. This is a great idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, if I had billions, fight eons billions, I would

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<v Speaker 3>start towns like this, or communities or I don't know how.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't I have it an unfold, but you'd be

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<v Speaker 3>like the Amish, except for No, we're not gonna ride

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<v Speaker 3>buggies down the road to work. It's ridiculous. But we're

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna have the damned Internet. We're not gonna have smartphones.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not gonna have all this stupid stuff. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go back to like way back to two thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, maybe I don't know on the internet. I have

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<v Speaker 2>to think about that.

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<v Speaker 3>But definitely, not smartphones, Definitely, not Ai, Definitely none of

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<v Speaker 3>that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think a lot of people would gravitate toward that.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna have backyard barbecues and the kids are gonna

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<v Speaker 4>all go off to the side, and they're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 4>and giggle and laugh, and we'll wonder what they'll say

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<v Speaker 4>and if they're saying, and then they'll invent if in

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<v Speaker 4>a game with a ball and a stick, and you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And is there any way to program morality into any

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<v Speaker 3>of this chatbot stuff? I mean, you couldn't force it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I mean, is there any way to have a

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<v Speaker 3>chatbot says, Wait a second, how old are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>While you shouldn't be sex at all, and certainly not

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<v Speaker 3>being in a relationship with a seventeen year old. There's

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<v Speaker 3>either something wrong with them or they're just wanting to

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<v Speaker 3>use you for sex. But this is a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there any way a chatbot whatever say that?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the issue is since groups, since we don't really

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<v Speaker 4>have shared a shared sense of morality anymore, because we've

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<v Speaker 4>become a much more diverse country, the it's impossible to

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<v Speaker 4>quote unquote infuse morality into it because nobody can agree

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<v Speaker 4>on what morality is or should be. Therefore, all things

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<v Speaker 4>digital are utterly a moral They are without morals. Does

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<v Speaker 4>that trouble anybody sending your child into a completely a

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<v Speaker 4>moral environment?

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<v Speaker 3>In this particular story, so chromebook got taken away mom

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<v Speaker 3>late at night. At one point realizes computers missing. Uh oh,

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<v Speaker 3>goes in the daughter's bedroom. Couldn't stay away from the

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<v Speaker 3>sex advice chatbot to please a seventeen year old now

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<v Speaker 3>has to sleep with the computer, all computer devices in

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<v Speaker 3>the bedroom to make sure they I mean, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not something our parents had to deal with.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I realizing I had to deal with and my

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<v Speaker 4>kids are now mid twenties to early thirties.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I realized the hubris that comes with saying this

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<v Speaker 2>is a harder time to be a parent.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a harder time to be a parent than

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<v Speaker 3>it was for previous generations.

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<v Speaker 2>It's horrible.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, as somebody raised the just one more generation earlier,

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<v Speaker 4>You're right.

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<v Speaker 2>You're one hundred percent. God, it's so crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, if you know anything about this or had any

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<v Speaker 3>experiences our text line four one five two nine to

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<v Speaker 3>five KFTC.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Armstrong and Joe Satty The Armstrong and Getty Show,

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<v Speaker 1>The arm Strong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I haven't heard this.

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<v Speaker 3>Gavin Newsom and Bill Maher discussing some California policies.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll discuss I see today the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 5>They talked about the fact that California had a rule

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<v Speaker 5>that schools cannot be required to notify parents if their

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<v Speaker 5>kids in school have changed their gender, their pronouns. That's

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<v Speaker 5>the kind of thing, even though it doesn't affect a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of people, that makes a lot of people go, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what, that's the party without common sense. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>if that's your state, how are you are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I just disagree with that. I mean, the law was

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<v Speaker 2>you would be fired.

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<v Speaker 6>A teacher would be fired if a teacher did not

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<v Speaker 6>report or snitch on a kid talking about their gender identity.

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<v Speaker 6>I just think that was wrong. I think teachers should teach.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think they should be required to turn in kids.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, turning that we're talking about their parents.

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<v Speaker 5>How can snitch The idea of a snitch and a

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<v Speaker 5>parent to me, doesn't combine.

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<v Speaker 6>Just I don't But what is what is the job

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<v Speaker 6>of a teacher?

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<v Speaker 2>It's to teach.

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<v Speaker 6>If Johnny's talking about some identity issue or some issue

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<v Speaker 6>about liking someone of the same sex.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the teacher's job.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, one thing that's clear from that, he is

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<v Speaker 3>not confidently coming out and saying it's ridiculous that teachers

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<v Speaker 3>would not be allowed to tell parents about it, And

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't say that. He had the opportunity right off

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<v Speaker 3>the bat to say that, and he didn't. So there's

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<v Speaker 3>no chance he's gonna be president the United States. You

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<v Speaker 3>cannot be president in the United States unless you're willing

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<v Speaker 3>to take a position on this. It's been proven over

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<v Speaker 3>and over the candidates who try to like fudge these

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<v Speaker 3>things and be wit into thinking they're gonna have it

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<v Speaker 3>both ways. Never works. Never works. Didn't work for Kamala,

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<v Speaker 3>ain't gonna work for Gavin. I can't believe he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have the balls to come out and say, even in California,

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<v Speaker 3>what just has gotta be an eighty twenty issue, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>to ninety ten.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe he didn't have the balls to say

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<v Speaker 2>that out loud.

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<v Speaker 4>And to claim that Johnny, who now wants to be

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<v Speaker 4>called Jenny, that that would be snitching on the kid

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<v Speaker 4>and akin to maybe the kid hints that maybe he

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<v Speaker 4>likes boys.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just that is so false. I mean, it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>And also the job of a teacher is to teach,

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<v Speaker 3>to teach about the genderbread person in radical gender theory, Gavin,

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<v Speaker 3>you require them to teach that stuff. Now, with all

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<v Speaker 3>the crap in California that they haven't teach that's not reading, writing,

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<v Speaker 3>and arithmetic, that ain't gonna fly. And he's trying to

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<v Speaker 3>conflate what DeSantis is doing in Florida, where they have

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<v Speaker 3>the law that you'll be fired if you don't tell

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<v Speaker 3>the parents, and he's trying to act like that's what

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<v Speaker 3>he's fighting against.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, no, you went completely the other direction

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<v Speaker 2>where the teacher is not allowed to tell the parent.

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<v Speaker 2>That's nuts. Yeah, and every most people think it's nuts.

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<v Speaker 3>As Bill Maher points out, most people think that's nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Gavin was smarter than that. Here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 4>What's really wrecking him and people like him, thank God,

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<v Speaker 4>is more and more people are understanding the relationship between

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<v Speaker 4>the neo Marxists, the radical you know, gender theory crowd

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<v Speaker 4>or the queer theory crowd, all these lunatics, the neo

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<v Speaker 4>Marxists and their connection to Frances Since the teachers Union,

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<v Speaker 4>which is down with all this stuff, Gavin doesn't dare

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<v Speaker 4>defy the teachers Union, which is down with all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So he went as far as he's going to go

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<v Speaker 4>with his Yeah, there's.

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<v Speaker 2>A injustice there. We need to strike a balance with

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<v Speaker 2>the girls in So it's not the vice versa.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not the voters that he has in the

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<v Speaker 3>back of his mind when he's answering those questions.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the teachers Union.

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<v Speaker 4>Have the teachers unions and the radical activist class of

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<v Speaker 4>which he I think is to the extent that he

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<v Speaker 4>has any beliefs whatsoever, they seem to be quite progressive.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he believes he wants to be president. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to hear more of that exchange.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no kidding, because mar cannot be.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to be able to say this. He cannot

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<v Speaker 4>be bull asked. I'll just say that, why do you

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<v Speaker 4>so oily?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you take so much joy and cursing? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, No, it's just it's a wonderful thing. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a wonderful thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, I consider bull asked to be a

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<v Speaker 4>perfect work universally understood and its meaning.

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<v Speaker 2>It is brief, it has a ring tw it, it

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<v Speaker 2>has a rhythm to it. It's perfect work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and unfortunately the substitutes do not carry the same weight.

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<v Speaker 1>Arm Strong and Getty, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, the

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 7>We were with German police as they conducted early morning

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<v Speaker 7>raids on citizens who had been accused of hate speech,

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<v Speaker 7>threats and inciting violence online.

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<v Speaker 2>In the United States.

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<v Speaker 7>A lot of people look at this and say, this

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<v Speaker 7>is restricting free speech. It's a threat to democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Free speech meets boundaries. Wow, and yeah, yeah, throw in

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<v Speaker 2>the German accent and that's really something that's from that's

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<v Speaker 2>from sixty minutes Sunday night, coming on the heels of

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<v Speaker 2>JD Vance giving Europe a lecture about censorship and be

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<v Speaker 2>an anti free speech over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>And as we will discuss these sixty minutes report was gleefully, weirdly,

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<v Speaker 4>troublingly positive about the idea of restricting free speech if it's.

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<v Speaker 2>The wrong speech.

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<v Speaker 4>Made even more notable their awful attitude by the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that it occurred on the same day as this clip.

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<v Speaker 4>Margaret Brennan talking to Marco Rubio on Face the Nation.

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<v Speaker 8>He was standing in a country where free speech was

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<v Speaker 8>weaponized to kentuckt a genocide, and he met with the

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<v Speaker 8>head of a political party that has far right views

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<v Speaker 8>and some historic ties to extreme groups.

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<v Speaker 4>Margaret Brennan attempting to suggest the JDVS chants shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 4>advocated free speech because free speech is what led to

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<v Speaker 4>the genocide in Germany against the Jews, which is almost

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<v Speaker 4>hilariously idiotic and so wildly inaccurate. It's barely worth the

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<v Speaker 4>time to describe how incredibly inaccurate it was free speech

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<v Speaker 4>under Hitler.

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<v Speaker 2>When was that? Exactly, asks every historian on Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I'm mister hyperbole, but I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the craziest things I've ever heard. One of

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<v Speaker 3>the major Sunday Show anchors say.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Jadavan. Unquestionably, jd Vance was standing in Germany

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<v Speaker 2>where the rise of fascism happened in the genocide, and

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<v Speaker 2>they weaponized free speech. What are you talking about? Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, Yeah, she's nuts.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so lost on this. I don't understand their worldview.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess we'll learn more of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I can describe it to you exactly. It's the lust

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<v Speaker 4>for power. If you control speech, you control everything else.

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<v Speaker 4>But how does that work in a democracy? Don't you

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<v Speaker 4>The other side gets to do it too when they're

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<v Speaker 4>in charge. Again, I hate even going to that argument

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<v Speaker 4>because then it makes it a conditional thing. Well, for

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<v Speaker 4>practical reasons, I guess you're right. I won't limit free speech.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even want to go there, right, it's horrific, horrific,

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<v Speaker 4>and how you get there in a democracy. The other

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<v Speaker 4>thing is you declare an emergency. Happens all the time

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<v Speaker 4>both parties. Is Trump's doing it right now and I

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<v Speaker 4>don't approve of it. There are half a dozen different

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<v Speaker 4>emergencies he's declared which are highly questionable for the purpose

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<v Speaker 4>of gaining emergency powers. I hate it on both sides.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to stop anyway, back to sixty minutes. Do

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<v Speaker 4>you want to ring lean our way through the cliffs?

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<v Speaker 4>Doesn't really matter. We can start with eighty Michael.

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<v Speaker 7>It's six' oh one on a Tuesday morning, and we

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<v Speaker 7>were with state police as they rated this upon Hartman

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<v Speaker 7>in northwest Germany, just.

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<v Speaker 2>To put it inside them humid inside.

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<v Speaker 7>Six armed officers searched to suspects home, then seized his

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<v Speaker 7>laptop and cell phone. Prosecutors say those electronics may have

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<v Speaker 7>been used to commit a crime, the crime posting a

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<v Speaker 7>racist cartoon online At the exact same time across Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>All the online as homes for Swiss Neunivorald.

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<v Speaker 7>More than fifty similar raids played out part of what

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<v Speaker 7>prosecutors say is a coordinated effort to curb online hate

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<v Speaker 7>speech in Germany.

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<v Speaker 2>And the one guy points out, maybe it will be

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<v Speaker 2>in one of these clips, the seven thousand cases or

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<v Speaker 2>something that they investigated last year. Wow, that's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>in a country much smaller than the United States. Imagine

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<v Speaker 2>what that would look like in the United States. And

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<v Speaker 2>hate speech, of course, the one of the problems with

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<v Speaker 2>hate speech being who's determining its hate speech, who's making

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<v Speaker 2>the judgment on that? Yes, Sharon ALFONSI helpful.

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<v Speaker 4>He just saved us the trouble and told us the

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<v Speaker 4>cartoon was racist, putting aside whether you know you should

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<v Speaker 4>limit free speech on the basis of quote unquote racism anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, what did it say?

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<v Speaker 2>In what sense? Was it racist? Who is it racist against?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 3>Give me the specifics you're asking for the right to

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<v Speaker 3>censor me, and you just say, take my word, it

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<v Speaker 3>was terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>This part is amazing.

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<v Speaker 7>What's the typical reaction when the police show up at

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<v Speaker 7>somebody's door and they say, hey, we believe you wrote

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<v Speaker 7>this on the internet.

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<v Speaker 9>They say in Germany, we say, that's a bit more

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<v Speaker 9>motives off my zagen. And so we are here with

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<v Speaker 9>crimes of talking posting an internet and the people are

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<v Speaker 9>surprised that this is really illegal to post these kind

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<v Speaker 9>of words.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't think it was illegal.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, they don't think it was illegal. And they say, no,

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<v Speaker 9>that's my free speech. And we said no, we have

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<v Speaker 9>free speech as well, but it also has his limits.

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<v Speaker 2>I see, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to accept that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just true that obviously, smart people in charge of

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<v Speaker 3>things can say words like that. How can you sail

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<v Speaker 3>it free speech as its limits?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then it's not free speech. You just nullified the

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<v Speaker 2>first part of your sentence. What the second part of

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<v Speaker 2>the sentence.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody understands that there are certain limits, but they are

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<v Speaker 4>extremely limited limits. The people like this just say, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>because there are limits, there can be more limits, and

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<v Speaker 4>I will decide what limits there are.

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<v Speaker 2>Control your soul's desire for freedom.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's which I respond. No, you don't get to decided,

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<v Speaker 4>No freaking way control your soul's desire for freedom. They

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<v Speaker 4>say in China. This part amaze me. I was unaware

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<v Speaker 4>of this.

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<v Speaker 7>It's illegal to display Nazi symbolism. A Swasaka denied the Holocaust.

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<v Speaker 7>That's that's clear. Is it a crime to insult somebody

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<v Speaker 7>in public? Yes, yes, and it's a crime to insult

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<v Speaker 7>them online as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. The fine could be even higher.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, if you insult someone in the internet, why because

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<v Speaker 9>in Internet it stays there. If we are talking at

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<v Speaker 9>face to face, you insult me and sold you okay, finish.

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<v Speaker 9>But if you're in the internet, if I insult you

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<v Speaker 9>or a politician.

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<v Speaker 2>It sticks around forever. Yeah. So she says to these

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<v Speaker 2>three people, it's a fine.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a fine too if you insult someone, and they'll

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<v Speaker 3>just say yeah, like you know, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>What what what defines an insult?

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<v Speaker 3>And folks keep in mind, remember we're still in the

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<v Speaker 3>era certainly on university campuses and in government and some

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<v Speaker 3>other places where if you are insulted, that's proof that

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<v Speaker 3>the other person is done wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>You remember, I didn't mean that to be racist.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter what you meant, it's how I received it.

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<v Speaker 3>So you give the person receiving it the carte blanche

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<v Speaker 3>to declare whatever they want to be insulting or hurtful

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<v Speaker 3>or racist or abusive Islam or whatever, and therefore that.

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<v Speaker 2>Falls within Well, that's hate speech.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, we're going to take away your right to say

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<v Speaker 4>any to make any criticism that any anybody could even

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<v Speaker 4>implausibly claim is insulting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's horrible. So somebody posts the Chancellor is a moron,

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<v Speaker 2>I assume that would be a crime. Maybe you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>post it, maybe you just did this.

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<v Speaker 7>If somebody posts something that's not true and then somebody

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<v Speaker 7>else reposts it or likes it, are they committing a crime.

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<v Speaker 9>In the case of reposting it as a crime as well,

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<v Speaker 9>because the reader contstinguished whether you just invented this or

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<v Speaker 9>just reposted it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the same for us.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I was listening to that one, I was

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about it was an official Biden Harris campaign ad

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 3>that way we had playing in the United States. Donald

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:46.119
<v Speaker 3>Trump threatens a bloodbath if he loses, which was absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>a lie in misinformation on the side that sixty minutes

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<v Speaker 3>is on. Would you consider that a crime or only

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<v Speaker 3>when it's coming from the other side. See, that's where

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<v Speaker 3>the rubber meets the road on this whole thing, and

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<v Speaker 3>it gets, you know, unworkable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I happen to have a couple of articles, think pieces, etc.

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<v Speaker 4>That point out how incredibly one sided this is. It's

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<v Speaker 4>just a lust for power the other thing that really

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<v Speaker 4>and it's funny, we're talking about one of the most

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<v Speaker 4>fundamental human rights that any human beings ever enjoyed. But

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<v Speaker 4>you know what annoyed the crap out of me was

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<v Speaker 4>when they're and I'm not sure if we have these clips,

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<v Speaker 4>but they were talking about the fines, which are fairly heavy.

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's thousands of dollars in fines and multiple

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<v Speaker 4>offenses can put you in jail. But some people just

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<v Speaker 4>have their phones and their laptops confiscated for good.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't get them back.

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<v Speaker 4>And Sharon al Fonzie said, your phone, wow, because everything's

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<v Speaker 4>on there.

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<v Speaker 2>That is tough.

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<v Speaker 3>And she was amused at the idea of these people

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<v Speaker 3>who indulged in what the Germans are calling hate speech

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 3>getting their devices taken away and not getting access to

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<v Speaker 3>them anymore. She thought that was funny, an insensitive joke.

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<v Speaker 3>They come and take your laptop and your phone and

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<v Speaker 3>you don't get it back, and it's a certain crowd

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<v Speaker 3>that that's awesome. This story I found amusing, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was a twenty.

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<v Speaker 7>Twenty one case involving a local politician named Andy Grote

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<v Speaker 7>that captured the country's attention. Growth complained about a tweet

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<v Speaker 7>that called him a pimmel, a German word for the

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<v Speaker 7>male anatomy, that triggered a police raid and accusations of

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<v Speaker 7>excessive censorship by the government. As prosecutors explained to us,

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<v Speaker 7>in Germany, it's okay to debate politics online, but it

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<v Speaker 7>can't be a crime to call anyone a pimmel, even

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<v Speaker 7>a politician. So it sounds like you're saying it's okay

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<v Speaker 7>to criticize a politician's policy, but not to say I

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<v Speaker 7>think you're a jerk and idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, commen's like your son of a bitch, excuse me forward.

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<v Speaker 9>This words has nothing to do with a political discussions

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<v Speaker 9>or a contribution to a discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one of the great kanards that sensors use. Here's

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 4>an example where I'm censoring something reasonably right, and then

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 4>you're supposed to extrapolate from there. Therefore, I trust you

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:12.959
<v Speaker 4>to censor whenever you want. F you no, and you

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 4>are a Pimmel. You're a table full of Pimmels, right.

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 4>I kept thinking that as they used various examples. I thought, Yeah,

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:22.199
<v Speaker 4>it'd be nice if you could censor that and not

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:26.920
<v Speaker 4>other stuff. But once you open the door, then you

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 4>start making choices and who's making those.

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<v Speaker 2>Choices, and it gets out of hand really really fast.

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<v Speaker 3>We all lived through this in the United States, so

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 3>we know how off track this can get so fast.

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 3>When it was basically against the rules to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the virus probably came out of that lab,

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<v Speaker 3>you couldn't say it for a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, or you would be punished, maybe not by law

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 4>enforcement in the ways we're used to, but you would

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<v Speaker 4>be punished by proxy by the government.

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<v Speaker 2>And CBS, it would seem. And many others.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of college professors want it to be against

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 3>the law to post misinformation and again misinformation like if

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<v Speaker 3>you get the inoculation, you can still get COVID and

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 3>you can still spread it.

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<v Speaker 2>That is dangerous misinformation. Wow, it's scary. One hundred percent true.

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<v Speaker 3>They're so enthusiastic about it there in Germany, and then

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 3>we got and then CBS is enthusiastic about it too.

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<v Speaker 2>That is freaking frightening. We got a lot more on

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<v Speaker 2>the way now.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are all lights losers hanging out at the DMV?

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<v Speaker 3>Where are the regular people? There are no regular people

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<v Speaker 3>the DMV. It's almost entirely losers, like in line there

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang it out, Oh yes, sitting line.

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<v Speaker 3>Never know either's like would be. It's got a bit

0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 3>of a Homer Simpson White. Are the things that happen

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 3>to stupid people keep happening to me. But you don't

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 3>look around and see anybody. I mean, I thought this

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 3>when I was twenty five, so this isn't like me now.

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<v Speaker 3>I've always thought this. It's like serving well, every car

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 3>parked in the parking lot is like Dennett and missing

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 3>hubcaps and got you know, a plastic bag over one window.

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 3>The percentage of people with either a crutch or a

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 3>sling is way higher than the regular population. I don't

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 3>know what to make of this. I'm uncomfortable with it.

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know why it is. I've always wondered that. Now.

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 3>I tweeted that out and some people said, well, those

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 3>of it that there is a separate one for those

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 3>of us who are life's losers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Triple A.

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 3>And I did discover that in my thirties that if

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<v Speaker 3>you're a member of Triple A, a lot of the stuff

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 3>you can do there. The thing I'm doing bringing a

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 3>car in from another state, you have to go to

0:31:55.960 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 3>the DMV. California tries to make it impossible to bring

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.719
<v Speaker 3>a car in from another state because there are ultimate

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 3>goals to have no cars.

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 2>That is the goal of the state of California. They

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 2>hate cars and they would like to get rid of them.

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 2>So you're always.

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 4>Everybody in evs, which tear up the highways, which are

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 4>already bad.

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'm registerrying to register an EV and it's

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 3>still just as hard. But anyway, that aside, I had

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 3>a point of Oh somebody did point out though, because

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 3>I got into a lot of conversations online because I

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 3>had two hours to kill wondering about this question. Is

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 3>that uh, further down the ladder of life working out

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 3>for you, or when you're young you drive cheap cars

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 3>that have you know, more difficulties, and you swap cars

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 3>more often, and just with with other crappy cars. Just

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 3>lots of things happen that require the DMV more often. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's there's a certain percentage of trips to the

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 3>DMV which are caused by lack of organization, no, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm speaking for myself.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that if if if I, for since it

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<v Speaker 4>had gotten the FORMA X thirty four or B in

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 4>on time, I wouldn't have to be standing in that

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 4>damn line. And there's definitely a correlation between ability to

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 4>be organized and think ahead and success in life. You

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 4>either have it or in my case, you marry it

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 4>and thereby avoid a lot of the trips.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, well, it's insane that we can't have a

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 3>simpler system though that I know a lot of it

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 3>has gone online, but it all should be easily doable online,

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Why not? Yes, clearly. I wonder if AI can get

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 2>a wrap on this someday where there's a dmv AI

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 2>thing that can tell you, no, you need this form,

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 2>click here and you'll have the form, and then you

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 2>fill out the form and it's submitted on the computer.

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<v Speaker 3>And all of this is nonsense of waiting in line

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 3>for hours. And this didn't happen to me, thank god,

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 3>but I saw it happened to practically everybody around me,

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 3>waiting in line for hours to be told no, you

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<v Speaker 3>need thirty four b you have thirty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's so Soviet Union. That is so evil. Actually,

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Elon Muskin, the Doge boys.

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<v Speaker 4>They're getting all the attention for cutting this and firing

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 4>them over there, but one of the main priorities they

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 4>have is updating the ridiculously antiquated and unconnected computer systems

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 4>of the government, and I would love to see that

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:22.879
<v Speaker 4>catch fire. Just as an aside, after the a half

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:24.799
<v Speaker 4>dozen or so of the Doge leaders made that great

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 4>appearance on the Special Report with Brett Beher, I really

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 4>thought they would be mounting a charm offensive where more

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 4>of those people would be doing more interviews I.

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<v Speaker 2>Haven't seen it.

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 4>It could be that all of the alphabet networks in

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 4>the usual suspects that New York Times have no interest

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 4>in it because it undercuts their narrative of it's just

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 4>a handful of frat boys on meth running around firing nice,

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 4>innocent people with families, when indeed that's not it at all.

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 3>I actually hadn't been in a DMB in quite a

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<v Speaker 3>few years, so I was trying to take the multiple

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 3>hours as an opportunity to just observe, you know, our

0:34:56.760 --> 0:35:02.320
<v Speaker 3>government system at work. I also committed myself to knowing

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 3>that I wouldn't get accomplished where I wanted to accomplish

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 3>in one trip, and I didn't, but to having a

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 3>cheerful look about it as I watched so many people

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 3>get angry and thinking, you've made yourself miserable, You've made

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:18.360
<v Speaker 3>the person that works there even a little more hardened

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:22.720
<v Speaker 3>against the public. Nothing good was accomplished by getting upset

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 3>about this, no matter what.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought, how do you do that job?

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 3>How could you do that job for a day and

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 3>not end up the way a lot of DMV drone

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 3>people are.

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<v Speaker 2>The person I worked with was very cheerful and nice,

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:39.279
<v Speaker 2>but a lot of them aren't, and I could.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how you could work that job one

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<v Speaker 3>week without being one just a mindless boredom of it,

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 3>and then that everybody being mad at you.

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:53.319
<v Speaker 2>It's really inhumane to subject someone to doing that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you would do that. I agree.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not an excuse exactly for being mean or abusive,

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:01.280
<v Speaker 4>but I understand it having out with a public fair amount,

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:02.800
<v Speaker 4>especially in younger jobs.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's how TSA people end up where they

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 3>are too, although with the added benefit for both of

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 3>those jobs if you can't be fired, because working in

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 3>retail is a lot of that too, and you have

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 3>to keep your cheerful out look because they can fire

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.800
<v Speaker 3>you and get somebody different, So you have to overcome

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<v Speaker 3>the whole The customers pissed me off are trong, Hey, Jettie,