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Speaker 2: the homie Mike. He had a MIKEAE Sheet, he had
Speaker 2: a he's from well he's not from Phoenix, but I
Speaker 2: knew him as a rapper from Arizona growing up. He
Speaker 2: used to go by sind Q back in the day.
Speaker 2: And so I started paying attention to this podcast and
Speaker 2: you guys were doing the high level conversations on his channel,
Speaker 2: and I remember watching one of your guys's talks and
Speaker 2: it was just dope. So and then I've seen you
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Speaker 2: to finally have you here.
Speaker 1: Man, Man, I appreciate you. Michael Sheet a good dude, Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: First of all, it's been a wild couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: You know, I look at him like every month is
Speaker 1: a year now. Last year was crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, like you said, January felt like a year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we got through. I'm like, damn, like this is how
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. It kicked off with the I mean,
Speaker 2: obviously the fires were crazy here in LA and obviously
Speaker 2: the election was wild, and it was just a man,
Speaker 2: I feel like for anybody who's like even like on
Speaker 2: the crypto front, like, it's just been a wild, wild
Speaker 2: twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Five so far. To me, it's almost a very predictive though, right,
Speaker 1: I already knew twenty twenty five was going to be
Speaker 1: a crazy year regardless of who would have won, right, Right,
Speaker 1: it's just you know with Trumpet office is going to
Speaker 1: be even wilder. Yeah, this is a year to nine, man,
Speaker 1: It's an end to cycles in the beginning of new things.
Speaker 1: And it's also going to be a very conflicting year. Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1: We see fires everywhere with the planes crashing, multiple planes crashing,
Speaker 1: historical things, and I look at symbolism and things. You
Speaker 1: feel me, if we at the end of an empire cycle,
Speaker 1: you feel me, you're going to see higher conflict, You're
Speaker 1: going to see a shifting power, right, because what this
Speaker 1: current administration is trying to do is number one, the
Speaker 1: preservation of power in the complete overhaul. Like they looking
Speaker 1: at it like if we at the end of times, man,
Speaker 1: let me get as much as I possibly can. And
Speaker 1: their goal and what I'm seeing though is they're being
Speaker 1: really good at keeping the people divided. So the people
Speaker 1: scape go to each other and don't look at the
Speaker 1: elites as the problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because you know we go from like,
Speaker 2: I guess this shadowy oligarch, Yeah, which has always been
Speaker 2: American politics, where we know there's billionaires like this, but
Speaker 2: we don't really know who they are, right, And then
Speaker 2: now it's like no, now they're sitting at the inauguration
Speaker 2: and they're like, you know, the new Age Tony Starks,
Speaker 2: whether it's Elon or Mark Zuckerbern Sam Altman or whoever
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: But now the people accept it, right, Like the syab is,
Speaker 1: how do you condition people to a point where they
Speaker 1: accept it right? How do you keep showing them something
Speaker 1: to where it becomes less and less shocking so by
Speaker 1: time you're ready to roll it out, they're already conditioned
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, my mind is already expanded to
Speaker 1: accept this idea. So I'm no longer going to revolt
Speaker 1: against you once I see it, Because if you would
Speaker 1: have took this back ten years ago, the argument was
Speaker 1: that whether the government is ran by the elite, whether
Speaker 1: it's ran by a shadow government, whether it's ran by oligarchy,
Speaker 1: And because that idea has been something that's been pushed
Speaker 1: on us and imprinted into us since we were younger
Speaker 1: in high school. Now that we see it, we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we already.
Speaker 2: Knew that, and now it's like, no, that's what's happening, right.
Speaker 1: But now there's no revolting spirit at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's funny because like now like some of
Speaker 2: these figures, like you know, become like somehow like punk
Speaker 2: rock even though they're like quite literally the opposite.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense what I'm saying, Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: look at Mark Zuckerberg and Eli Musk, Right, Mark Zuckerberg
Speaker 1: is a good example. Everybody's looking at him as robotic,
Speaker 1: dead in the eyes, right, And he had a pr
Speaker 1: issue and then they decided to you know, go in
Speaker 1: there and remake his image, right, and so they gave
Speaker 1: him a curly hair, they gave him a gold chain.
Speaker 1: Did the album with T Pain, right? He did you
Speaker 1: the album with T Paint did which I never listened to,
Speaker 1: and on a Plan too, but I remember that.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Jude him and T painted an album and then he
Speaker 2: starts doing like jiu jitsu.
Speaker 1: Jiu jitsu and all of this stuff. Man, that's that
Speaker 1: was to number one Ease him in the minds of
Speaker 1: the people, like what can we shape him into so
Speaker 1: that they accept what comes from us, because the younger
Speaker 1: generation will start rejecting these things. Right if you look
Speaker 1: classically like an elite, right, and you look like you
Speaker 1: are the problem, then they say, okay, well, how do
Speaker 1: we start to assimilate in this culture where number one
Speaker 1: is much harder to control? So you can't control everything
Speaker 1: on TikTok, which is a reason why they were trying
Speaker 1: to figure out, all right, how do we own that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny how we watched like over the three
Speaker 2: or the last three or four years, like the pendulum
Speaker 2: swing on the TikTok banning, and it was like it
Speaker 2: kind of had gone away until the Palestine conflict happened,
Speaker 2: and then that was the main kind of vehicle for
Speaker 2: information to get to the kids, right, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, And then all of a sudden it had
Speaker 2: been Oh now, all of a sudden, a lot of
Speaker 2: people who didn't want it banned before, now it's an
Speaker 2: issue again. And you know, I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people have I think if you're paying attention, like that's
Speaker 2: obviously what happened.
Speaker 1: But you know, well, media is the most powerful medium,
Speaker 1: and it's something that classically been controlled by a small
Speaker 1: group of people. So anytime there's a disruption in that,
Speaker 1: they got to figure out, all right, how do we
Speaker 1: get our power back, because now you're going to put
Speaker 1: a disruption on the timeline of things they want to
Speaker 1: roll out because of the backlow that they gonna get
Speaker 1: from the younger generation or just free media period. So
Speaker 1: you put out a story in instead of everybody talking
Speaker 1: about the story you put out, there's a whole new
Speaker 1: story on how that's bogus. Right, there's a whole new
Speaker 1: story with different details that legacy media didn't push, and
Speaker 1: they like, wait a minute, nobody's believing us right now.
Speaker 1: So that makes it harder for them to roll out
Speaker 1: their agendas, especially talking about global politics. And the sentiment
Speaker 1: is around empathy for the Palestinian people. Right. It used
Speaker 1: to be way easier for them to control that narrative.
Speaker 1: Now they can't, and they can't suppress it and pretend
Speaker 1: it's not happening. Right. The sentiment of the crowd is
Speaker 1: very obvious when you go on TikTok that people are
Speaker 1: empathizing with the Palestinian people and believing that the things
Speaker 1: that are happening with the murdering of children and women
Speaker 1: is just evil. There's no political spin you could put
Speaker 1: on it. So it's interesting to where you even see
Speaker 1: the things that Donald Trump doing to suppress voices against
Speaker 1: you know, Israel, and consider that to be anti Semitism,
Speaker 1: but even his base don't like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because I saw today. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you saw this on you might have. You know,
Speaker 2: somebody who I like grew up not really fucking with
Speaker 2: is Tucker Carlson. Yeah, but Tucker Carlson did an interview
Speaker 2: with Piers Morgan today and I was like, am I
Speaker 2: end the upside down world?
Speaker 1: Roere?
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, Tucker, I see you, bro, like
Speaker 2: where He's like, I'm sorry, is there? Like we were
Speaker 2: supposed to be fight the idea of being evil And
Speaker 2: if you don't think the killing, the purposeful killing of
Speaker 2: women and children and citizens isn't evil, then what are
Speaker 2: we talking about?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that you're going to see more to happen.
Speaker 2: Even like Cannas Owens like shout out to Candas, Like
Speaker 2: I don't agree with everything Cannis Owns says, but like
Speaker 2: I've definitely had like a hard shift in terms of
Speaker 2: like like damn, like Cannas Owens ain't like as crazy
Speaker 2: like you know, growing up like you know, obviously being
Speaker 2: like hardcore democrat over the years, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like you always would just be like, yo, Cannis Owens
Speaker 2: is she's she's the boogeyman, you know, or Tucker like,
Speaker 2: but it's like not everything and I think I think
Speaker 2: over the last eight years, I would kind of say, really,
Speaker 2: since COVID, a lot of shit is in the gray space, man, Like,
Speaker 2: you can't look at everything as black or white. You
Speaker 2: can't take everything from each side and write it off fully. Now.
Speaker 2: The other thing with that is society will try to
Speaker 2: paint you as all of that or all of this
Speaker 2: if you don't align with everything each side is trying to.
Speaker 1: To what you're looking at is different agendas though, So
Speaker 1: it's like it's a very interesting breakdown with this. So
Speaker 1: you got a part of the MAGA group and they're
Speaker 1: not all united. People act like they're not. They're very different,
Speaker 1: very divided. There are some people who are completely anti Israel, right,
Speaker 1: most of his basis anti Israel, most of his bas
Speaker 1: is anti Zionists. Right. So when he does things that
Speaker 1: are pro Israel. They don't agree with that, but they
Speaker 1: take that because they want him to help them on
Speaker 1: other fronts, the America first front, which is hypocritical in
Speaker 1: a way. Right, But when you see somebody like Candice On,
Speaker 1: you see somebody like Tucker Carlson, she got what fired
Speaker 1: right by Zionists, So now she start going down this
Speaker 1: rabbit hole. Right, So they talk about being red pilled,
Speaker 1: and now I don't know what this is. Desion is
Speaker 1: pilled if you will, right to where you have these
Speaker 1: people that say, wait a minute, they were pro White,
Speaker 1: they weren't pro Israel. So now there's this difference of
Speaker 1: saying that, wait a minute, that basis looking at it
Speaker 1: from an ethnicity standpoint, then looking at it from a
Speaker 1: Christian saying that we was all together on this maga.
Speaker 1: But it's maga Christian or not, because if it were,
Speaker 1: then that means that we need to move based on
Speaker 1: Christian values. Right. And then you can't stand hypocritically in
Speaker 1: front of a microphone, right in front of your base
Speaker 1: to be pushing pro Christian values and at the same
Speaker 1: time be pro war, right and wanting to kill women
Speaker 1: and children, right, And then stand in front of that happily.
Speaker 1: But you realize is that they might sell Bibles and
Speaker 1: they may use Christianity, but they're using it as a
Speaker 1: vehicle for manipulation because they know that that base wants
Speaker 1: these conservative values pushed. But do the oligarch and the
Speaker 1: megalomaniacs actually care about that? And the answer is no,
Speaker 1: Right these are Elon Musk is a transhumanist. That's against
Speaker 1: Christian values. Right. He wants to go to Mars and
Speaker 1: things of that nature. Do they care about living in
Speaker 1: harmony with the planet Earth or do they care about
Speaker 1: just extraction? And capitalism is against Christian values, right, especially
Speaker 1: dream capitalism in a way that's plagued out in America
Speaker 1: today and right now, I believe that we just at
Speaker 1: this point where capitalism is eroding at the soul of
Speaker 1: human beings. Right. They focusing on wage suppression instead of
Speaker 1: figuring out how do you increase the quality of life
Speaker 1: for people in America? It's just about how much money
Speaker 1: are we making? What does that have to do with
Speaker 1: the fact that most Americans are depressed, overweight, right, have anxiety,
Speaker 1: and they have no vision or dream towards the future
Speaker 1: aspirationally like America is losing its capacity to be an
Speaker 1: inspirational and influential place because we have so much conflict,
Speaker 1: and so you're going to see that base continue to
Speaker 1: divide on their talking points because they have different agendas,
Speaker 1: and now they're starting to criss cross, you feel me,
Speaker 1: especially when it's who's running the government becomes is it
Speaker 1: Elion's agenda? Is it Trump's agenda? Who's behind Trump's agenda?
Speaker 1: I believe Yeah. The first presidency I think was a
Speaker 1: more honest Trump, right, because I think he was surprised
Speaker 1: that he even won, right, But this time number one,
Speaker 1: he had four years to prepare. Then you have all
Speaker 1: these allies that he had to take money and promises for, right,
Speaker 1: So now he has to, you know, fulfill those promises.
Speaker 1: And Trump likes to be like so he's trying to
Speaker 1: fulfill those promises as much as possible, you feel me.
Speaker 1: But then a lot of those promises are contradicting to
Speaker 1: each person that gave him. For the citizens, is it
Speaker 1: for olive gards, is it for the people that's pro
Speaker 1: oil or electric? Right, it's for the people that's pro
Speaker 1: Palestine or pro Israel. Freedom of speech or censorship? I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of conflict within the mega party
Speaker 1: itself that eventually it's gonna cause it to implode, which
Speaker 1: is why you see people like what's the one Indian
Speaker 1: guy that got out of there, like Vek Man.
Speaker 2: Like I thought Vivek was, Like I saw footage of
Speaker 2: him like being very kind to people on the college
Speaker 2: campuses who weren't necessarily aligning.
Speaker 1: Played the game. But like what he said, they got
Speaker 1: him there quick because he started talking. He forgot he
Speaker 1: he forgot that they were white. First, we start talking
Speaker 1: to white people like he was better than them, and
Speaker 1: it was like, we rock with you as long as
Speaker 1: you're saying what we want to hear.
Speaker 2: He had that tweet that yeah, yeah, the di visas
Speaker 2: and and uh, you know how America's Yeah, we're raised
Speaker 2: on different values.
Speaker 1: And he reminded people that they not. He reminded white
Speaker 1: people that they're not the top of the food chain
Speaker 1: in America. He said, no, there's agents they're the most
Speaker 1: educated group in America and they have the highest grossing
Speaker 1: household income and part of that is based on how
Speaker 1: they actually live by their family values. Right, And so
Speaker 1: that disruption of that thought process to say that wait
Speaker 1: a minute, we got the highest paying jobs and were
Speaker 1: running these tech sectors. The white people as a look
Speaker 1: at themselves and say, wait a minute, you're saying we
Speaker 1: d e I. Because what he said is well, if
Speaker 1: we get rid of DEI and we operate based on merit,
Speaker 1: then we're still going to get the jobs because we're
Speaker 1: the ones educated in these sectors, right, and we're the
Speaker 1: ones the most qualified. So you don't want to go
Speaker 1: based on merit if we're going toe to toe, And
Speaker 1: that's when they had to look at themselves. They get
Speaker 1: his ass out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny with this di I conversation is like
Speaker 2: you know, my co host James was telling me, He's like, yo,
Speaker 2: if you look at some of the de I numbers,
Speaker 2: it's mostly white women.
Speaker 1: Yeah, most benefit women.
Speaker 2: But it's become this like like you know the airplane
Speaker 2: crash that happened, Like when the first ding Trump went
Speaker 2: to was it I was stupid.
Speaker 1: It was just it's like, without having any information, you
Speaker 1: just gonna say d. That just shows you how they
Speaker 1: just gonna utilize this.
Speaker 2: It's like red weight to throw yes to incite the base, right,
Speaker 2: And to me, it's like you know, to have like
Speaker 2: a real conversation about like what DEI actually is, who
Speaker 2: it actually benefits, whether or not it's beneficial for the
Speaker 2: you know, workforce as a whole.
Speaker 1: That's like a conversation that, Yeah, that's different, that's different.
Speaker 2: But I feel like, what's what it's turning into is like, well,
Speaker 2: every time something's wrong, somehow you just pulled this, yeah,
Speaker 2: googie man of di I into it.
Speaker 1: We're having two different conversations about d It's the way
Speaker 1: it's weaponized. It's the actual reality of it, right, because
Speaker 1: for me, it gotta be nuanced. The Democrats did go
Speaker 1: far left extreme with things, and they never take any accountability,
Speaker 1: which means that if they don't take accountability, then you're
Speaker 1: gonna look at the base exact the same way, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna say we're still not rocking with you. Because
Speaker 1: they did go to the trans movie, they did go
Speaker 1: completely LGBT in women's movement and specifically, and they did
Speaker 1: go full War two. They did in full War machine.
Speaker 1: But guess who was left out of that black men?
Speaker 1: Black men was like, okay, well you said DIA, but
Speaker 1: that don't mean black men. Even like you're going to
Speaker 1: see an increase in homosexuality in black media. Before you
Speaker 1: see an increase of Black Muslims on the TV. Why
Speaker 1: is that we contributed the most to Black American history? Right,
Speaker 1: Yet when you talk about diversity, it don't mean diversity
Speaker 1: within Black America, especially when they talk about black men,
Speaker 1: because we're not a monolift, so our voices are not
Speaker 1: even contributed. So if I don't see myself, then I
Speaker 1: got to push myself. I gotta force it. Now, we
Speaker 1: got a problem. Right, Even when they talk about black
Speaker 1: women being the most educated group in America, they was
Speaker 1: talking about that. Actually that's within Black America, so saying
Speaker 1: that she's more educated than black men because we're going
Speaker 1: by the numbers as Asians, whites, Blacks than Mexicans, right,
Speaker 1: and the most educated group would be East Indians. So
Speaker 1: what that really was was just a divisive thing that
Speaker 1: they was utilizing as propaganda to push one up and
Speaker 1: push one down. You not doing enough and we're doing
Speaker 1: more than y'all, right, instead of this thing doesn't of ours.
Speaker 1: Doesn't work unless it's collaborative, unless it's cooperative. So I've
Speaker 1: seen influencers talk about how black men heterosexual black men,
Speaker 1: they say cis gender. I hate that word. First of all,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. You can't. First of all, I don't call
Speaker 1: a straight male cis you know I'm talking about that
Speaker 1: don't make no sense.
Speaker 2: It's almost like I don't know. I'm married to a
Speaker 2: Mexican woman. Most of my friends growing up or you know,
Speaker 2: Mexican American, and I don't know anybody who says LATINX.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody gonna utilize none of those terms. So they
Speaker 1: went too far right. They took this playbook that doesn't
Speaker 1: represent the values of Black America whatsoever. Then you throw
Speaker 1: intersectionality in there, right, and then we've seen that that
Speaker 1: wasn't real. So intersectionality is when the black women and
Speaker 1: the white women and the LGBT right, they are grouped
Speaker 1: together as an oppressed group. And so you would hear
Speaker 1: all of these stats about what they're not getting, and
Speaker 1: I always be like, damn, y'all act like black men
Speaker 1: are getting all the things. Y'all saying, y'all nut right.
Speaker 1: Even when we talk about VC capital at less than
Speaker 1: one percent going to black people, but instead of saying
Speaker 1: that number, you talk about the less than one percent
Speaker 1: going to black women. It's like, why don't we just
Speaker 1: talk about it as a whole, because it's not a
Speaker 1: competition of who getting less between us. We have to
Speaker 1: be a family, and then saying how do we go
Speaker 1: get more? But I look at this timeline of history
Speaker 1: right now is wrong When a lot of people will
Speaker 1: go study African American studies, but you're still only going
Speaker 1: to get an ancestral study, right, that gets pulled out.
Speaker 1: And then at the end of that, you have to
Speaker 1: ask yourself, if I indoctrinate you completely with African American studies,
Speaker 1: what sort of consciousness do you have? Is it a
Speaker 1: do for self? Do you feel victorious or do you
Speaker 1: feel low pressed? Do you feel like an assimilationist? Right?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like an integrationists? When you look at
Speaker 1: American history, why wasn't Marcus Garvey and Elijah Muhammad taught
Speaker 1: as much when they had the most successful platforms ever
Speaker 1: built in American history. We hear about Black Wall Street,
Speaker 1: which was incredible, right, but we never hear about the
Speaker 1: economic network of the nation Islam. Right. When they would
Speaker 1: do their Saviors Day meetings, they would report fifty million
Speaker 1: dollars in earnings and in today's time, that's half a beat, right,
Speaker 1: which would have been worth more than Black Wall Street.
Speaker 1: At the time, he had an economic network all across America.
Speaker 1: But that lesson was never even taught in school, that
Speaker 1: that was the last economic empire that we had, right,
Speaker 1: and it didn't fail per se. His son inherited and
Speaker 1: his son dismantled. So it wasn't something that was just
Speaker 1: destroyed like Black Wall Street. So it doesn't end with
Speaker 1: this tragic story of saying everything we built they gonna destroy. No,
Speaker 1: that's not the real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the narrative of what happened in Tulsa is
Speaker 2: like it reads to historic history books better.
Speaker 1: It's a victim mindset that it possesses, and it ends
Speaker 1: with trauma. And anytime you feel like something is with trauma.
Speaker 1: And you don't come from a place of victory like
Speaker 1: you know, somebody, you ask somebody when they front of
Speaker 1: Bay where you frond, the gonna say Oakland. But why
Speaker 1: they say it like that though, It's because you saying,
Speaker 1: I'll come from a place of pride, right, You feel
Speaker 1: me like this is where I'm speaking from. You feel
Speaker 1: me like that moral pride and that pride that you
Speaker 1: have itself makes you feel like you can do anything.
Speaker 1: But a lot of times the way we feel about
Speaker 1: Black history is like, oh, we came from this place
Speaker 1: of oppression, we with slaves, and then slavery is not
Speaker 1: taught right, right, we don't talk about the Seminole wars.
Speaker 1: And when there was free towns in Florida and there
Speaker 1: was men like John Horst that would fall, he fought
Speaker 1: into wards and in multiple battles, he fought for his freedom,
Speaker 1: He fought against the Indians, he fought with the Indians,
Speaker 1: you feel me. And then of course there were the
Speaker 1: blacksimin alls that had babies, the Native Americans and Africans
Speaker 1: having babies. We don't even talk about that lineage and
Speaker 1: timeline enough. That was a complete warrior class where they
Speaker 1: was fighting wars and winning, and we just don't spread
Speaker 1: that information at all, Like we're not a warrior class
Speaker 1: of super resilient people. Because if you got that kind
Speaker 1: of pride growing up, you think of your timeline differently. Right,
Speaker 1: If you come from just the Malcolm and Martin timeline,
Speaker 1: that's conflict and you Malcolm as you Martin, is it
Speaker 1: must because if.
Speaker 2: You're surface level educated on both of them, then their
Speaker 2: their opposites, their polar.
Speaker 1: Opposites, and where do they lead nowhere right right, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about as a whole people because people that even
Speaker 1: people that follow Malcolm don't actually follow him, right. They
Speaker 1: inspired by the story, but they don't follow the teachings.
Speaker 1: A cat to have a whole Malcolm X tattoo a
Speaker 1: white girl on his arm and god damn you feel
Speaker 1: me go East i Port the next day. But he
Speaker 1: was inspired by Malcolm. That's not the power. The power
Speaker 1: is what made him Malcolm X, and that would be
Speaker 1: the teachings that he learned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say too, Like you know, it's as
Speaker 2: a young white kid who would just go to the
Speaker 2: library all the time. I remember reading the autobiography of
Speaker 2: Malcolm X back in the day and just like realizing like,
Speaker 2: oh this food was like a fucking player for real,
Speaker 2: Like Detroit Red was like like.
Speaker 1: You know Detroit, like Oakland, you feel me, you go
Speaker 1: grow up in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like just such a complex guy who I feel
Speaker 2: like somehow, Like you know, it's like you said, man,
Speaker 2: somebody get a whole tattoo of somebody, or wear a
Speaker 2: hoodie or you know, and it's like there's so much.
Speaker 1: We make them symbols without substance, right right, and when
Speaker 1: they just assembol without the meaning and understanding and the
Speaker 1: nuance in the background. Like if you studied the life
Speaker 1: of Malcolm, it should lead you to Elijah Muhammad's teaching.
Speaker 1: What was he studying? How did he become who he was?
Speaker 1: And then I just I was putting together, think it's
Speaker 1: a newsletter that I have, and it was, what is
Speaker 1: the world without Elijah Mohammad? Right, And then you have
Speaker 1: to go into a whole lot of nuance. If Elija
Speaker 1: Mama doesn't exist at all, the whole world changes. Hip
Speaker 1: hop changes. Right. Sure, you don't get Father Alive, you
Speaker 1: don't get you know what I mean, the God body influence.
Speaker 1: Right in hip hop. You don't get the rock kymns,
Speaker 1: in the woo.
Speaker 2: Tangs, you don't get ris of, you don't get chuck
Speaker 2: d you don't get so much stuff is then a
Speaker 2: student of his was doctor Sebby.
Speaker 1: He was the first to give us the dietary restrictions
Speaker 1: on what to eat in America. So then you get
Speaker 1: a change in that you don't see the seams everywhere, right,
Speaker 1: not saying that he directly told anybody Seamas, but doctor
Speaker 1: Sebbey said, this was the only black leader that I
Speaker 1: seen that was worried about black people's health because he
Speaker 1: was an f y at one point in time. You
Speaker 1: don't get Malcolm X, and you don't get honorable minisulis
Speaker 1: farcime with the million man march right, you don't get
Speaker 1: none of these things. You have to change so much
Speaker 1: about history and black consciousness. And that is just saying
Speaker 1: that when you erase figures like essentially Marcus Garvey from
Speaker 1: truly being understood, right, and you erased you know, noble
Speaker 1: drew our leave from truly being understood and the unoboy
Speaker 1: like Muhammad, and you only give us right as our
Speaker 1: main people that we go to in our minds Martin
Speaker 1: and Malcolm right. But that right, there is a contradiction
Speaker 1: within itself because even Martin Luther King, history wasn't the dream.
Speaker 1: It was who he was after that speech. That's his
Speaker 1: real story. What do you started talking about after that?
Speaker 1: And he was like, man, I realize this we go
Speaker 1: burn in this house if we integrate. I realize it
Speaker 1: gotta be economic upliftment. I realized we got to get
Speaker 1: our own because the America that we're about to integrate
Speaker 1: in is so morally bankrupt that it's gonna corrupt us
Speaker 1: if we integrate within it. So it's easy and commercially
Speaker 1: viable for America to spread the dream speech because that's
Speaker 1: easier for them to control. But the radical leaders that
Speaker 1: say do for self. We're gonna build our own economic base.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have our own airplace and important exports in
Speaker 1: our own banks and supermarkets and schools, and say, look,
Speaker 1: that's cool with the Montgomery bus boycott, but what about
Speaker 1: we just take our money and invest in our own
Speaker 1: buses that we already have, and then we can bust
Speaker 1: our own people instead of trying to sit in front
Speaker 1: of the bus. That is a completely radical difference, and
Speaker 1: I think this generation is more aligned with the radical
Speaker 1: teachers that was talking about economic rights versus just civil rights.
Speaker 2: Do you think there was a purposeful effort to make
Speaker 2: Black America dependent on the system percent? That's the Yeah.
Speaker 2: Me and James always talk about it, and he's like,
Speaker 2: if you go back and look like the black family
Speaker 2: was strongest prior to one hundred percent, you know, uh,
Speaker 2: the incentivizing black men and not being the home of
Speaker 2: their children. You know, if you were a mom, like
Speaker 2: you know dates at there were certain points in times
Speaker 2: where they come to your door and see if the
Speaker 2: dad was there, you know, for you to get you know,
Speaker 2: your welfare and all that shit. And so it's like
Speaker 2: you said, it's like if you talk about you know,
Speaker 2: Black Wall Street, it's like, why hasn't that been replicated
Speaker 2: in since then?
Speaker 1: That's the whole point. It has multiple times. There was
Speaker 1: multiple cities, over sixty plus towns and cities. What happened
Speaker 1: is is that story after that time, after that happened, well,
Speaker 1: we had high end belief because you got to remember, right,
Speaker 1: you're talking about a time man late eighteen hundreds, early
Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds, right in the nineteen twenties, there was this
Speaker 1: belief right that we can do for self coming out
Speaker 1: of at the eighteen sixty five June teenth, right coming
Speaker 1: out of that slavery and so calledly being and mascipated.
Speaker 1: The belief was, all right, we're gonna build our own
Speaker 1: thing now. Like they was afraid because they understood that
Speaker 1: the black working class was going to be a large
Speaker 1: consumer group and have so much power, right, and so
Speaker 1: they seen that because it wasn't just everybody just out
Speaker 1: of rags and slavery. There was a lot of free
Speaker 1: black people already at that time, right that were stooped.
Speaker 1: That were leaders and teachers that had written books and
Speaker 1: have philosophies right like Frederick Douglass. So they understood, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, if we lead them up to their own devices,
Speaker 1: they just gonna build. And they did. They had their
Speaker 1: own political systems, they had their own newspapers in multiple cities.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just Black Wall Street that was burnt down.
Speaker 1: But what they was really trying to do was kill
Speaker 1: the spirit to believe in doing for self. How do
Speaker 1: we stop to get y'all believing you can create your
Speaker 1: own city, in infrastructure, in economy. That was what it
Speaker 1: was really about. It was a terrorist event destroy the
Speaker 1: spirit right of self sovereignty in this country by Black Americans,
Speaker 1: and they wanted them to spread that terrorst story so
Speaker 1: that you never speak from this victorious place like we
Speaker 1: can do everything ourselves. That's when leaders that started talking
Speaker 1: about integration, right, and how do we work within the system.
Speaker 1: The third Good marshals and things of that nature became
Speaker 1: more popular because the belief was less of let's just
Speaker 1: create our own and then it was more of how
Speaker 1: do we work with them? You get the naacps born
Speaker 1: not those movements, but at that time there was always
Speaker 1: different dissenting voices against each other saying no, I think
Speaker 1: the best way for it is we create our own.
Speaker 1: Those voices always went further. That's where you get the
Speaker 1: Marcus Garvey's right saying he was teaching about stock certificates
Speaker 1: and giving people equity inside, you know, his business with
Speaker 1: the Black Star line because he looked at the white
Speaker 1: star line and said, well, and we just have our own, right,
Speaker 1: same thing we do now, that entrepreneurial spirit, that Pan
Speaker 1: African movement that is from Marcus Garvey. The black Star
Speaker 1: and Naghana flag wouldn't be black if it wasn't for him, right,
Speaker 1: that's the Black Star line. So that was the radical
Speaker 1: movement of us looking at it like all right, we
Speaker 1: actually was doing. We also had global alliances too, and
Speaker 1: this is one of interesting things because now there's always
Speaker 1: this fight between FBAs and Africans and things. But at
Speaker 1: that time you had a connection between the Japanese and
Speaker 1: all of the black groups because the Japanese was going
Speaker 1: to get some America, so they started looking at maybe
Speaker 1: they going to be the ones to defeat white supremacy, right,
Speaker 1: we seen them complete the operation defeating the Russians and
Speaker 1: we was like, oh, we ain't never seen nobody with
Speaker 1: the white boys like that. They might be the ones.
Speaker 1: So there was a black Dragon society right that was
Speaker 1: committing assassinations and they was based on pan Asianism. They
Speaker 1: wanted Asia for Asians. Then they connected with the Pan
Speaker 1: Africans want African for Africans, right, and so that became
Speaker 1: this connection of how do we help influence these groups
Speaker 1: in America that want to do for self, that don't
Speaker 1: like white supremacy and we don't like it, even though
Speaker 1: they was really going for imperialism. So what happened was
Speaker 1: after they lost World War two, I Blair world War two, right,
Speaker 1: the Hiroshima bomb dropped on them. That destroyed this belief
Speaker 1: because and this is something that we never talk about,
Speaker 1: what did that bomb do to Black Americans when they
Speaker 1: seen America drop a bomb on Hiroshima and the Japanese
Speaker 1: were starting to seem like an ally for the black community.
Speaker 1: Devastated a lot of groups who had connections with the Japanese.
Speaker 1: So you had somebody like Maddie Maud who was from
Speaker 1: offset of Marcus Garvey had over three hundred thousand members.
Speaker 1: She was getting funding from the Japanese and she was
Speaker 1: pushing pro Japanese sentiment right throughout the hoods and throughout
Speaker 1: her organization. But when they lost, she lost a lot
Speaker 1: of those followers, and a lot of them came to
Speaker 1: the Nation Islam because the Nation Islam were still had
Speaker 1: the same message of we're gonna do for self and
Speaker 1: it's the black man that you follow. Nobody else is
Speaker 1: gonna come to save us. We're gonna save ourselves. Right,
Speaker 1: So then you start looking at how history shifted after that,
Speaker 1: and we start moving more towards civil rights and integrational lists,
Speaker 1: and I think it was a spiritual change. It was
Speaker 1: a fear right that pushed us towards that movement. Right.
Speaker 1: It wasn't our radical leaders that was talking about economics.
Speaker 1: They said, man, how about we just figure out how
Speaker 1: to work with these boys. Because and then I believe
Speaker 1: that was also FBI and CIA that was integrating and
Speaker 1: pushing certain leaders and putting money behind certain voices to
Speaker 1: push that propaganda.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like today we talked a little bit
Speaker 2: earlier about just kind of like mainstream media's I guess
Speaker 2: lack of a grip on everybody now. I mean, obviously
Speaker 2: there's still certain demographic that just goes through CNN and
Speaker 2: Fox News and they just eat whatever they're giving. But
Speaker 2: now there's guys like yourself. Now there's like it's a
Speaker 2: good and a bad thing, right. It's almost like I'm
Speaker 2: a DJ. So when Serado got introduced to everybody who
Speaker 2: had a laptop could be a DJ. So you did.
Speaker 2: But now it's like, you know, everyone's kind of their
Speaker 2: own if they wanted, if they choose to be an
Speaker 2: independent source of media, they can be right, There's really
Speaker 2: no there's no like a limit to what you could
Speaker 2: do in terms of just posting on TikTok, posting on Instagram,
Speaker 2: et cetera. Are you encouraged by that because now there
Speaker 2: isn't you know? Because I told my wife all the
Speaker 2: time when we're talking about like what the kids are
Speaker 2: learning the school and shit, and I'll see some of
Speaker 2: this shit and I'm like, I mean, it's so much
Speaker 2: like so much more information so readily available to kids
Speaker 2: to where like I feel like people like if I
Speaker 2: was a kid and I was in history class, I'd
Speaker 2: be raising my hand all the time being like what
Speaker 2: about this?
Speaker 1: You know, well, we are in this attention economy, right.
Speaker 1: So here's the dangerous thing about it. This we have
Speaker 1: a wealth of information, but a poverty of attention, true, right,
Speaker 1: So we can't pay attention to anything anymore because there's
Speaker 1: too much information.
Speaker 2: You're just swiping.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if somebody came to you and they just told
Speaker 1: you one hundred things, right, none of that just intake.
Speaker 1: It's too much to try to remember, right, So instead
Speaker 1: we need focus right now. And what I think is
Speaker 1: going to happen is it's going to be a lot
Speaker 1: of voices that get cut out right, and people are
Speaker 1: going to look for more experts to listen to. Right,
Speaker 1: news that actually has value that you can trust during
Speaker 1: this time, Incredible voices that they can go towards. Because
Speaker 1: this is making this is increasing people anxiety. Right, you
Speaker 1: start doom scrolling. You're just looking for more information, but
Speaker 1: you have less execution. So this makes you less willful, right,
Speaker 1: And this is not a good thing that we have
Speaker 1: too much information. You need more focus because there's no
Speaker 1: leader in the history of time that we considered great.
Speaker 1: They became great because they had too much information. No,
Speaker 1: when we look through our history, they had focus. Right,
Speaker 1: I would will let you have less, but have an understanding,
Speaker 1: and understanding is more powerful than knowledge. If everybody had
Speaker 1: an early understanding on bitcoin, right, you had early knowledge,
Speaker 1: early information.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you at surface level like right, But if.
Speaker 1: You understood it, you would have put all chips in
Speaker 1: every single day and you'll be a billionaire, right right,
Speaker 1: And that would have been the only piece of information
Speaker 1: you really would have needed to understand that, and that
Speaker 1: was the most powerful and necessary for you to become
Speaker 1: a billion there be able to change and impact your
Speaker 1: whole reality. So is it? Oh? I learned this one
Speaker 1: on YouTube, this one and this one, and I listen
Speaker 1: to this influence and this thought leader and this one.
Speaker 1: I'd rather you not listen to me and listen to
Speaker 1: the person that has something objectively different. But at least
Speaker 1: you could become an expert at what they're doing versus
Speaker 1: we have a disagreement. So Key said do this, they
Speaker 1: said do this. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2: It's almost like people who read too many self help books,
Speaker 2: if that makes sense, because if you read, like, you know,
Speaker 2: ten financial guides or whatever, like ten how to get richer,
Speaker 2: you know, it's almost like you know, for example, what's
Speaker 2: the old dude, who's who's been. He's got a radio
Speaker 2: show forever, bald glasses, old white cat, and his whole
Speaker 2: entire thought process is carry no debt. Oh you know
Speaker 2: who I'm talking about. He's got a radio show all
Speaker 2: over the country and.
Speaker 1: It's on Gordon or you know something like that.
Speaker 2: He's got he's got like a redneck accent kind of Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know you're talking about. I know, just like you
Speaker 2: can watch him and he's and he's telling you one thing.
Speaker 1: And you watch, you know, the dude to rot rich
Speaker 1: that poor a. Yeah, use debt to your advantage. And
Speaker 1: there's multiple routes. It's really just mastering your route though,
Speaker 1: right you feel me. It's not that both ones can work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not neither are wrong, right, but it's like, but which
Speaker 1: one are you go do? I can best become an
Speaker 1: expert as something. Right. If you become an expert, you
Speaker 1: become valuable during this time and you don't have to
Speaker 1: chase money. Money comes to you because you have a value. Right,
Speaker 1: So expertise number one. That means you got to focus
Speaker 1: and get a depth of knowledge. Right now, people have
Speaker 1: a spread of knowledge, right, but they don't have any depth.
Speaker 1: They can't teach it, They can't break it down simply
Speaker 1: to get other people to understand. Now, I look at myself, like,
Speaker 1: all right, what am I expert in? Right? Right? And
Speaker 1: when you become an expert, it is what other people
Speaker 1: consider you to be an expert in. Right, I would
Speaker 1: consider you to be an expert in journalism and podcasts
Speaker 1: right right? In music and media. Essentially, I say.
Speaker 2: The only thing in life I'm an expert at is
Speaker 2: probably just my entire life has been hip hop as
Speaker 2: a child, you know.
Speaker 1: But people not an expert on nothing, Like I.
Speaker 2: Could name random bench players from the nineties. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm a basketball fanatic. So outside of that, you know,
Speaker 2: we figured out the podcast and radio radio Yeah shit,
Speaker 2: I'm in one hundred markets, you know. Radio is what
Speaker 2: I'm been doing so I sixteen.
Speaker 1: But look at that. That means that now, when you
Speaker 1: learn new information, you can filter it based on your
Speaker 1: expertise and why it's valuable to you for sure. Right,
Speaker 1: So when I was younger, I used to read different
Speaker 1: books because my filter was, all right, how can I
Speaker 1: use this as some sort of value? Though? So if
Speaker 1: I can't utilize it even in a conversation, I might
Speaker 1: learn philosophy just to bring it up. But I was
Speaker 1: always giving myself an intent with everything that I was doing,
Speaker 1: and I don't think a lot of people have good
Speaker 1: intent right now, So therefore they're not learning for a reason, right,
Speaker 1: They're just learning to learn, right, you feel me? And
Speaker 1: that's where you start structuring it, saying that, no, I
Speaker 1: rather you learn some basic skill sets and master those,
Speaker 1: rather than you just trying to pick up everything in
Speaker 1: the world and you become a master at nothing.
Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, if you're not a master of anything,
Speaker 2: and what are you.
Speaker 1: Doing, Yeah, become a master at canvall. That's more important
Speaker 1: than you being a jack of all information. But you
Speaker 1: can't do anything with it, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: master the one single app and let that be your
Speaker 1: niche right now, and everybody who wants to come for
Speaker 1: that particular niche will find you.
Speaker 2: You said something on Twitter a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 2: that I thought, was it just hit man? You said
Speaker 2: being asleep as the new woke, and that I felt
Speaker 2: that shit because I feel like the pendulum has like,
Speaker 2: like if you think about everything in the last six
Speaker 2: seven years, right, it almost feels like it's swung so
Speaker 2: far the other way that you're desensitized. Like even with
Speaker 2: some of this mass deportation shit, right, it's like there's
Speaker 2: a conversation of like, obviously there was an issue at
Speaker 2: the border, the shit was popping there. I think that's
Speaker 2: a different conversation or yeah, we got to have the
Speaker 2: border under control because you know, whether or not you
Speaker 2: think that nation should have borders or not, you know,
Speaker 2: there was a mass bucks of human beings coming into
Speaker 2: a place that might not have been ready to receive
Speaker 2: them infrastructurally, compared to like, hey, it's turned into like
Speaker 2: it kind of being okay to be like I just
Speaker 2: see this like anti immigrant narrative. That's just like everyone's
Speaker 2: kind of desensitized to that. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: I think we almost insensitize to everything at this point
Speaker 1: in time. A robot could walk down the street and
Speaker 1: we'll go about our day.
Speaker 2: Well, it's like the alien stuff. No one seems to
Speaker 2: have cared about these alien hearings that happened.
Speaker 1: They don't.
Speaker 2: It's like it too.
Speaker 1: It's what we consider fast consumption culture, right, and fast
Speaker 1: culture is what I call it as well, where we
Speaker 1: learn about something but then something new happens, and then
Speaker 1: we lose that attention. So it's like if you look
Speaker 1: at AI. If the average person studies deep seek right now,
Speaker 1: right this new competitor or chat GPT and you master it,
Speaker 1: that's a million dollar skill. But instead you keep jumping
Speaker 1: to the next thing. It's more important to master one thing,
Speaker 1: get a depth of knowledge and focus on that and
Speaker 1: then shut out everything else. You don't need to know
Speaker 1: all the news. Why do you need to keep up
Speaker 1: the news? Have you misinformed? Right? Because now you're operating
Speaker 1: off legacy media agenda. Find somebody that you trust as
Speaker 1: a voice and just use them to learn when you
Speaker 1: want to keep updates with things. But otherwise, if you're
Speaker 1: just constantly consumed in the news, you're going to be fearful,
Speaker 1: number one, and that fear is not good when you
Speaker 1: want to go do stuff yourself. Right, So now you're like, well,
Speaker 1: why should I do anything in the world about the end?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I don't know what's about
Speaker 1: to happen. And now you find yourself research and conspiracies
Speaker 1: that have nothing to do with any of your ghosts. Right,
Speaker 1: if it's not going to empower you, then it's not
Speaker 1: worth anything to you. And I think that that's another
Speaker 1: dangerous thing is that we are losing our ability to
Speaker 1: respond to things. We just react. If you're going to
Speaker 1: look on Instagram and YouTube, its just reaction videos, right,
Speaker 1: But ability need the response is responsibility. So we're lacking
Speaker 1: our ability to respond, which means we're not being strategic
Speaker 1: with anything. We're just reacting. And that's not us actually
Speaker 1: taking in any information and said all right, this is
Speaker 1: the best way that I want to respond now, right,
Speaker 1: this is how we move forward. That's a growth thinking.
Speaker 1: We have a low level thinking right now in the
Speaker 1: world where I have a book that I'm writing and
Speaker 1: it's about how high level conversations can change the world
Speaker 1: right and transform your own world. And it starts off
Speaker 1: talking about our neo cortext which is the part of
Speaker 1: a brain that allows us to have these kind of conversations, right,
Speaker 1: our critical thinking, right, our ability to think beyond nuance.
Speaker 1: And that's when we become more aware and conscious. And
Speaker 1: the reality of it is is most people not activating.
Speaker 1: They neo, right, They neo to escape the matrix neo cortex.
Speaker 1: We becoming devolved, not evolved. When you focus on survival
Speaker 1: You're just trying to get through today. Right, when you
Speaker 1: focus on evolution, you want to advance in life. So
Speaker 1: coming from where we come from, coming from Oakland and
Speaker 1: Saint Louis, it's all survival. And I seen a brother,
Speaker 1: I believe it was a brother, Jeff Gordon. He was
Speaker 1: having a conversation on how most of our languages around survival.
Speaker 1: How you doing. I'm just getting through it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What's going ain't nothing to maintaining. You
Speaker 1: feel me, I'm just surviving, just barely getting to it,
Speaker 1: like all of this is just barely. No, it had
Speaker 1: to change to evolution, you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 1: growing daily, You feel me. I'm going to move. Everything
Speaker 1: is upward. You feel me like we don't even have
Speaker 1: to vocabulary for growth. And when you get around different people,
Speaker 1: what you start doing is you start taking their habits
Speaker 1: and speaking like them. And when you speak like them,
Speaker 1: you move like them, you think like them, You start shifting.
Speaker 1: You feel me. So the game is how do we
Speaker 1: go from survival to evolution?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: How do we go from thinking local which is localism,
Speaker 1: then you got nationalism national pride of your country, then
Speaker 1: globalism thinking about the world, what's going on in Palestine
Speaker 1: and Congo. Then you got cosmism, right, our connection to
Speaker 1: the cosmos, which is what our ancestors all had. All
Speaker 1: our ancestors had an attention and the consciousness connected to
Speaker 1: the cosmos. They all charted the stars, they all moved
Speaker 1: with agriculture and astronomy. Right. There wouldn't been no ancient
Speaker 1: kymm at land of the Blacks unless they understood the
Speaker 1: star positions and when the water was going to come
Speaker 1: in and the cycles, and then they was able to
Speaker 1: create more food for their people and grow their population.
Speaker 1: But we don't have that no more. We sold local
Speaker 1: and local activity, local problems that keeps us emotionally down
Speaker 1: all day worrying about this bullshit on the news.
Speaker 2: Facts. What would you say in your opinion? Was like
Speaker 2: the number one reason why, because if you asked me
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, I'd assume that, like, you know, the
Speaker 2: Trump shit was over with, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, Like, nah, I knew it was
Speaker 1: gonna happen, But I'm just walking said a long time
Speaker 1: ago he gonna be the last president.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious, like you know, because you know, I
Speaker 2: feel like there's obviously there was. There was a lot
Speaker 2: of shit that, you know, I feel like the Democratic
Speaker 2: Party talked about earlier, it's not really the party that
Speaker 2: you know that at least I remember, you know, I
Speaker 2: remember it used to be like, yo, George Bush and
Speaker 2: Dick Cheney are bad. But now Liz Cheney's on the
Speaker 2: on the campaign, and now they're rolling out Bill Clinton
Speaker 2: to yell at Muslims in Michigan and tell them how
Speaker 2: they're like, It's like, how of course y'all are going
Speaker 2: to lose, you know.
Speaker 1: But it was wild and Obama and Clinton I think
Speaker 1: they did more damage to the campaign than anybody.
Speaker 2: It was bad. Yeah, it was really bad. Dude.
Speaker 1: Then look the nigga Biden was given. He wearing goddamn
Speaker 1: mega hats.
Speaker 2: Put the maga hat on his wife, or the red dress.
Speaker 2: I think all that shit was on purpose.
Speaker 1: I do too. I think I believe all that this
Speaker 1: is a coordinative body at least, because here's the thing.
Speaker 1: If you take history and you erase the word republican
Speaker 1: a Democrat, and you put government, you get a clear
Speaker 1: picture of the world. A problem is that they get
Speaker 1: to shift the branding to one side of the each time,
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they're not clear differences in value. But
Speaker 1: then there's one entity, and then there's the people. And
Speaker 1: then when the people can see wait a minute. Ever,
Speaker 1: since they had the Bacon Rebellion early hundreds of years ago,
Speaker 1: there was white slaves, I mean white people, poor people,
Speaker 1: and there was black slaves that was going to revote
Speaker 1: against the government. Together. Then the government was like, man,
Speaker 1: we can't have these things working together, So how do
Speaker 1: we set whites apart? So they started spreading the knowledge
Speaker 1: of course that blacks on feria, which is why they
Speaker 1: should stay slaves, right, And then we're going to give
Speaker 1: y'all more economic opportunity. We go create this middle class,
Speaker 1: so y'all come rock with us, right, And then whites
Speaker 1: was like, it was nice knowing you niggas, but hey,
Speaker 1: y'all supposed to be slaves. It supposed to be broke.
Speaker 1: We not to we white men. So then of course
Speaker 1: you get this white class. And then this is where
Speaker 1: they play this game of how do we keep the
Speaker 1: people divided so we can continue to rule both of us.
Speaker 2: As opposed to like it being a classiest thing. It's like, right,
Speaker 2: it's like, how can we make people forget that both
Speaker 2: of y'all are poor. The only thing that you guys
Speaker 2: might disagree on is whether a trans person should play
Speaker 2: sports or you know. It's like right, and we're gon
Speaker 2: we're gonna throw this in conservative value. So we're gonna
Speaker 2: throw this ball over here. That's like this crazy, like
Speaker 2: just you know, only affects a half a percentage of
Speaker 2: the population, but everyone's gonna fight over it. And then
Speaker 2: while we're over here, we're we're taking away the ability
Speaker 2: for you to purchase a home.
Speaker 1: It's genius for both of y'all if they were black
Speaker 1: or white.
Speaker 2: If you're both are poor, you're both fucked because now
Speaker 2: you guys can't even buy a fucking house.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that. Most people again, you go
Speaker 1: to that asset price is right, houses continue to go up.
Speaker 1: People can't afford the American dream.
Speaker 2: That the American dreams cooked.
Speaker 1: So what are they doing, the rich and the large
Speaker 1: corporations buying up all the houses?
Speaker 2: Yes, right, fuck Larry fig And.
Speaker 1: The prices continue to go up, but your wages are
Speaker 1: not going up, right, So then they focus on ways
Speaker 1: suppressed and how we not pay you more? We borrow money, right,
Speaker 1: and we want to pay off our desks from these
Speaker 1: assets that we bought. The assets continue to go with
Speaker 1: we're getting richer, right, and we make your money, But
Speaker 1: we don't want to make less money by paying our
Speaker 1: people more. So let's do automation. Let's bring in AI
Speaker 1: to handle this right, and then what happens. The productivity
Speaker 1: decreases number one, when people can't focus. So when we
Speaker 1: talk about an attention economy, when you got too much information,
Speaker 1: it stills your focus and then it decreases your ability
Speaker 1: to be productive. So productivity in America has been decreasing
Speaker 1: over the years. So that means that human capital, your labor,
Speaker 1: workforce is worthless, right, because people are not producing as
Speaker 1: much value. They just said gen Z's are lazy. They
Speaker 1: don't want to work, don't want that your work, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They don't even want to be
Speaker 1: men and women. They want to be Z and Z.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. A It's different out here.
Speaker 1: So that means let's bring in AI robots right to
Speaker 1: replace the productivity of humans and make it more efficient.
Speaker 1: Because we don't have to pay them more, we can
Speaker 1: still make more. Then let's bring in immigrants because we
Speaker 1: got a baby bust in America were not making enough babies.
Speaker 1: Whites are gonna be a minority. Okay, Then that triggers
Speaker 1: a fear forget get Well, now we're fearful, forget what
Speaker 1: we did to people. We gonna be a minority. And
Speaker 1: what would the minorities do to us if they empower?
Speaker 1: If we treated them like this? So number one, stop
Speaker 1: teaching them history so when they got damn get in power,
Speaker 1: they don't look at us as an enemy. And what
Speaker 1: you did to us, we're gonna do to y'all. This
Speaker 1: all of this fear going on, so they have to
Speaker 1: continue to suppress the wages, produce more AI robotics. The
Speaker 1: robots is gonna become so goddamn efficient you're gonna need
Speaker 1: no humans. But this is the way that it always happened.
Speaker 1: You go from people as a labor for as horses,
Speaker 1: you go from trains and automation. Then you got the
Speaker 1: digital age, and now it's saying, forget humans, let's just
Speaker 1: go completely with robots and keep all of the money.
Speaker 1: May make everything so expensive that you don't own nothing
Speaker 1: and be happy. And then what happens when people don't
Speaker 1: believe in their ability to make money in the system
Speaker 1: and they think it's rigged.
Speaker 2: They gamble right, they're they're fucking with meme coins and
Speaker 2: parlays exactly.
Speaker 1: So our generation, you know, previous the boomers and early millennials,
Speaker 1: they had what lottery tickets and power balls. Now it's
Speaker 1: the parlay, you feel me, and it's the mean coin.
Speaker 1: So gabling is going to continue to go hide because
Speaker 1: you don't believe in the system. And then they putting
Speaker 1: tarifts on everybody, who's gonna make everything more expensive for everybody.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting that society can't see this. And this
Speaker 1: is why I tell people, like I got my book here,
Speaker 1: our goals, Like when you look at the Black Panther party,
Speaker 1: they had the free food. To me, the free food
Speaker 1: is getting financial literacy right now, learning the skills that
Speaker 1: nobody can take away from you that allows you to eat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you look at financial the financial system
Speaker 2: as a game, it's just with anything, man, if you
Speaker 2: just learn the rules to the game, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: and and you know, the information is there.
Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent there and it's not hitting from you.
Speaker 1: And this is what I tell people. It's like Trump
Speaker 1: ain't gonna stop you from reading a book. Right, he
Speaker 1: ain't gonna stop you from learning this skill. You're gonna
Speaker 1: stop you from starting a business. You gonna be so
Speaker 1: fearful and so worried about what's happening in the world.
Speaker 1: You're not even building your own world, right, Your world
Speaker 1: is whatever you pay attention to.
Speaker 2: And then you get to the point where now you're, well, yo, man,
Speaker 2: Like that's the thing is like the blaming mindset. Well,
Speaker 2: Trump's the president.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like you got you gotta say, like, like at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, whether it was Biden, whether it
Speaker 2: was COMMLA that won, whether it was Trump at won again,
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, how do you save yourself? Well, also,
Speaker 2: how do you say, okay, well, I know if this
Speaker 2: person's winning, how do I set myself up for success
Speaker 2: regardless of who the president is? But okay, cool, I
Speaker 2: know if Trump won, this is what's gonna happen. Maybe
Speaker 2: I should invest in these type of stocks, Maybe I
Speaker 2: should look into these types of.
Speaker 1: You know, see, that's knowing how to respond right right,
Speaker 1: that's knowing how to plan and think strategic ahead. So
Speaker 1: if you're going to be strategic, that means you got
Speaker 1: to be a general on your own life. Life is war. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you gotta take a step back and think
Speaker 1: about how the hell do I secure my future and
Speaker 1: my children? You feel me if you get I promise,
Speaker 1: if you can get focused during this time, you will
Speaker 1: be one of the top one percent.
Speaker 2: And it's it's funny too because even on the crypto's front,
Speaker 2: like you know, even just getting like I think what
Speaker 2: happens with krypto. And it's probably better too because in
Speaker 2: order to even get into the mean coin games.
Speaker 1: Whole another conversation.
Speaker 2: No, but there's but there's so much like it takes
Speaker 2: a few hours. But it's not easy to just sign
Speaker 2: up on an app, is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: Like you got to have like a coin base, you
Speaker 2: gotta have a crypto dot com wallet too, and then
Speaker 2: you gotta have a DeFi wallet, and it's just it's
Speaker 2: just not the easiest thing. For like, for example, the
Speaker 2: day that the trump point point went crazy, if anybody
Speaker 2: opened their phone and was like, oh, how do I get?
Speaker 2: It wasn't just like you could just get. You kind
Speaker 2: of already had to be in that time. And by
Speaker 2: that it's exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: And by telling you buy you liquiddity for anybody to
Speaker 1: dump on you.
Speaker 2: We we woke up in the morning and I was like, damn,
Speaker 2: it's twenty four bucks. I'm like.
Speaker 1: But then it went up to like sixty.
Speaker 2: I was like, fuck.
Speaker 1: But it's better to not get in at twenty four right,
Speaker 1: then to not know when is going to drop and
Speaker 1: then lose.
Speaker 2: All your right because that's when it happened.
Speaker 1: Look at the mean coin, right. Mean coin thing is
Speaker 1: the attention economy on steroids. It's basically, instead of you
Speaker 1: do a podcast, you got a funnel, right, somebody you
Speaker 1: gather attention. That attention is converted into a product. Somebody
Speaker 1: you capture that audience information. Then you retarget them and
Speaker 1: try to get them to buy something. So now you've
Speaker 1: made some money off that attention. Mean coins are based
Speaker 1: on narratives, right, So what's going on in pop culture,
Speaker 1: whatever that's happening, they will make a mean connected to that.
Speaker 1: So Donald Trump just said, let me mean myself, So
Speaker 1: somebody that goddamn become president. And then as all that
Speaker 1: attention is ciphering over here, attention then becomes currency. Everybody
Speaker 1: pour that energy into it. I get paid billions because
Speaker 1: how much is that attention worth, right, So when we
Speaker 1: look at it through the reality in the dark side
Speaker 1: of the mean coin, is that a lot of these
Speaker 1: are inner circles, right of people. Yeah, so it'll be
Speaker 1: somebody that say, all right, I'm gonna drop a coin,
Speaker 1: and behind the scenes though I hit you up, cav right,
Speaker 1: I say, look, I'm gonna drop a coin. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need you to push this out. Now, you got a
Speaker 1: Telegram group already allocated, some money's towards you. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you when it's gonna drop, how it's gonna drop.
Speaker 1: Y gonna get in. Yeah, you jump into your Telegram group,
Speaker 1: somebody in your telegram group because you a og in there.
Speaker 1: Then they send it to they telegram group, then they
Speaker 1: send it to Twitter. Right now, all of these is
Speaker 1: layers of people who getting it earlier later right, like
Speaker 1: by the time you see it on Instagram is late.
Speaker 1: So once you understand that the game is rigged, that
Speaker 1: they have pay an influencer on Twitter five thousand dollars
Speaker 1: or something to tush it hot too a coin, that
Speaker 1: one goes up. But the thing is is you're not
Speaker 1: getting early, then you late. If you don't have some
Speaker 1: sort of insider track. You don't have a bot that
Speaker 1: is sniping it for you instantly, which is what they
Speaker 1: do to automate. And all these things that I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm sure the average person don't know, and it's letting you.
Speaker 1: You should rewind this and say, okay, let me go
Speaker 1: to deep seek, let me go to open ai, and
Speaker 1: let me put this information in their study and then
Speaker 1: ask them to break it down to me. If you
Speaker 1: don't have the focus to do that right now, promise
Speaker 1: you that shit you about to do the rest of
Speaker 1: your life right and the things you about to do
Speaker 1: tonight is not that important. It's not more important than
Speaker 1: you making a million dollars right or one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars as from your new skill set and new information,
Speaker 1: which is just you getting focused. Now. A lot of
Speaker 1: these nineties nine percent of them are rug pulls and scams.
Speaker 1: But here's the beauty of it is that bitcoin is
Speaker 1: gonna be bitcoin. You go buy it and it's just
Speaker 1: an exchange of currency, right. And what you're doing is
Speaker 1: you're increasing your purchasing power, right because as bitcoin goes up,
Speaker 1: your purchasing power goes up. So if inflation goes up,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, right, because you're still able to buy
Speaker 1: the same amount or more of things based on the
Speaker 1: amount of money you have. So if you work at job,
Speaker 1: whether you're getting fifty thousand dollars, whether you getting one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand, yo, go number one is develop a skill set,
Speaker 1: learn stocks, learn trade in, learn something. If you can,
Speaker 1: you got that focus or do it long term. If
Speaker 1: you don't, that just means you ain't got no discipline,
Speaker 1: which is fine. That means you know what you need
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five. Man, it's got to be the word
Speaker 2: of the year has got to be disciplined.
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, it has to be discipline and focused because
Speaker 1: without it you can't do nothing. You got to have
Speaker 1: that will to power. And so for me, it's like
Speaker 1: study the game, study what the wealthy people are doing,
Speaker 1: and do what they go do during this time.
Speaker 2: Even if like the fair minimum, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're paying attention to this, but if you
Speaker 2: would have followed Nancy Pelosi's trades were published ten days ago,
Speaker 2: I mean, and you just mirrored what she did.
Speaker 1: You can copy trade and then just help it automatically.
Speaker 1: Think she's up one hundred and eighty percent, Nancy go
Speaker 1: keeck her inside of money, Na's money different and so.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's like that's something that's as
Speaker 2: easy as like, hey, if you got to extra two
Speaker 2: under bucks a month, just follow these. I mean there's
Speaker 2: the informations there.
Speaker 1: But then I'm gonna say this though, if you think
Speaker 1: it's worth money, then why not educate yourself? Might not
Speaker 1: be fully engaged educated. I understand it's not easy. Who
Speaker 1: cares about the easy part? And this is why I
Speaker 1: tell if you a man, why you looking for easy?
Speaker 1: Then don't try to seek an easy life. He tried
Speaker 1: to figure out, all right, what is something that's worth doing?
Speaker 1: You feel me if you're a man, like that's too hard.
Speaker 1: That's your emotions. When you were thinking, man, I don't
Speaker 1: our rise above emotions and still get it done. I'm
Speaker 1: not looking for easiness. That ain't That ain't the development
Speaker 1: of a man. If your father said, man, I ain't
Speaker 1: do it because it wasn't easy, you look at it
Speaker 1: even like he was soft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's so many things like even with
Speaker 2: the pitcoin and any there's ways you could leverage if
Speaker 2: you if you think you can read the chart and
Speaker 2: you could long and short like preposterous amounts of equity
Speaker 2: of those coins that you don't necessarily have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can, but again it's gambling. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: only gambling if you don't have the knowledge and the strategy.
Speaker 1: If you educated, it's no longer gambling, because anything you
Speaker 1: do is gambling. If you don't have knowledge. You can
Speaker 1: start a clothing company, you don't know what the hell
Speaker 1: you doing? For sure, you just go get a shirt
Speaker 1: printed up. You ain't got no marketing background, right, you
Speaker 1: don't know how to do no branding, build a world,
Speaker 1: build a funnel. That's gambling.
Speaker 2: You feel me.
Speaker 1: If you're a rap artist and you make a song
Speaker 1: and you just push it out there, no marketing, no nothing,
Speaker 1: you planning on it, no plan that's gambling. You you
Speaker 1: just waiting for luck to have it. For sure, everything
Speaker 1: is gambling. When you ain't got no knowledge, get you
Speaker 1: some knowledge, didn't get you some money?
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the institution? What is it saying?
Speaker 1: What's the name of a Trump's the Department of Government official?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, the crypto the crypto company is a
Speaker 2: part of the world Finance.
Speaker 1: Thing, the liberty World Fighter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're buying up so much ethereum.
Speaker 1: Well think about it. So number one, US companies and
Speaker 1: coins will go do well with him talking about all
Speaker 1: of this less focus on America, right and he was
Speaker 1: trying to put tariffs on all these countries like I
Speaker 1: heard today, was talking about putting tariffs on nvideo and
Speaker 1: different things of that nature. US companies gonna do very
Speaker 1: well right now. Also, US cryptos so ones that are
Speaker 1: ISO twenty two compliant, right, meaning that these are the
Speaker 1: ones that are following regulations right already. So if you're
Speaker 1: looking at your xrps, you're looking at your ethereums, and
Speaker 1: your of course ethereum is like silver and XRP, I
Speaker 1: mean bitcoin is like gold. Then you got your solanos.
Speaker 1: Then you got things like inside that industry they call narratives,
Speaker 1: which would be like real world assets r WA tokens,
Speaker 1: so those are things that's connected to real world things.
Speaker 1: Then you got AI tokens. It's hot right now, so
Speaker 1: eventually that's go boom. So what you would do is
Speaker 1: go on YouTube university, go on coin market cap, go
Speaker 1: study quantum resistant ones, quantum machines is coming. All you
Speaker 1: need is a little information to become a master at
Speaker 1: that you don't have to win off everyone, pick an
Speaker 1: industry and say, you know what, I'm just focus on
Speaker 1: AI coins and figure out if I can be the
Speaker 1: best person to figure out which AI coins is gonna work. Right,
Speaker 1: But before that, I think it's worth everybody because I
Speaker 1: think what we try to do sometime keV is that
Speaker 1: we speak to the lazy person out there, the person
Speaker 1: that we know that's not really gonna get educated, so
Speaker 1: we try to give them the lowest way to get in.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, look, just right, I did this, like in
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, I bought Ripple right, and I just bought
Speaker 2: it because the homie was looking at me like, look, bro,
Speaker 2: I know you ain't in a crypto, but just and
Speaker 2: I was like all right, bet.
Speaker 1: But you know the reason that's dangerous because if they
Speaker 1: get in and they win the way Tokonomi's worth psychology,
Speaker 1: they got rewarded, so it makes them want to do
Speaker 1: it again. They got a good entry. If they get in,
Speaker 1: they lose. Right now they emotionally disconnected because now they're fearful.
Speaker 1: So now they feel punished, so now it makes them rejected.
Speaker 2: Happened to me when look I had ripple and it
Speaker 2: went up to three three something, and my boy was like,
Speaker 2: it's gonna go up to five, don't sell. And then
Speaker 2: it crashed see, and I was like, man, this crypto
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: So I would rather you get educated on why it
Speaker 1: happened and understand cycles and then you'd be like you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm just go.
Speaker 2: Hold just think about twenty twenty the pandemic hits, and
Speaker 2: there was that. I remember I was sitting in downtown
Speaker 2: LA in my car and I saw that bitcoin was
Speaker 2: like sixty something. It was like under seven grand, and
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, but I was, I was, I
Speaker 2: was tripping. I was like, nah, man, the fucking world
Speaker 2: might in this pandemic.
Speaker 1: The biggest reason not taking no risks.
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, I could have really like you know,
Speaker 2: but like you said, it's like at the end of
Speaker 2: the stem, at the end of the day, man, it's
Speaker 2: very very like educate yourself. They're like as like you said,
Speaker 2: it's like they're trying to devalue your labor. So whatever
Speaker 2: you you know, if you are a if you work
Speaker 2: at a retail store, if you work at you know,
Speaker 2: if you do construction, like they're trying to devalue those jobs.
Speaker 2: You know, there's certain jobs too that they say are
Speaker 2: like AI proof, like whether it's a plumber or you know, electrician,
Speaker 2: shit like that, But there is money out There's what's
Speaker 2: AI proof.
Speaker 1: Is being a human being, right, anything that's not robotic
Speaker 1: and automated.
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm so glad the AI rapper failed. The
Speaker 2: member dad they had, they had that.
Speaker 1: King Malonea's still dropping them old school classics.
Speaker 2: But it's crazy, right, It's like it's like that kind
Speaker 2: of shit. It's like if you're in the art like that's.
Speaker 1: But even the rap game is so like it's interesting
Speaker 1: because you know, you had the whole Kendrick and Drake thing,
Speaker 1: But I don't feel like nobody picked up the mental
Speaker 1: sense then, and it's a blank opportunity. And I think
Speaker 1: part of the reason is I don't think a lot
Speaker 1: of people understand the consumption habits of people right now,
Speaker 1: right Like, I think what you should be focusing on
Speaker 1: is how do you create a soundtrack for people? Right right?
Speaker 1: Because this is how people curate their music selection based
Speaker 1: on their mood. Right. They look at their life as
Speaker 1: a movie. They are content creator, right. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: put music as a soundtrack behind what you're doing. So
Speaker 1: you're looking at your movie and your content creat and
Speaker 1: who is making music to how I feel in this
Speaker 1: mood that I'm creating. Brands are doing that right, They're
Speaker 1: creating mood boards and figuring out how do we build
Speaker 1: a brand that makes it feel like it's a mood.
Speaker 1: So when you want to be in that mood and
Speaker 1: connected to that feeling, you buy my brand. It's the
Speaker 1: same thing with music. And I think the music industry
Speaker 1: you have the artists and what they're not connected to
Speaker 1: is good people. That's good with marketing, right. You look
Speaker 1: at Kendrick. He got pg lang right, and the people
Speaker 1: that's connected to him are great at marketing. Sure, they're
Speaker 1: great at building a world, understanding that mood and the
Speaker 1: psychology and the symbolism that goes into it. And if
Speaker 1: you lazy as an artist, you go lose. So I
Speaker 1: would say you curate yourself as this character, right, and
Speaker 1: you build this world and then you make music for
Speaker 1: that world. So when anybody want to feel attached to that,
Speaker 1: they go listen to your music.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think, you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that I think the good thing that came
Speaker 2: out of this beef was not like us. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think You'rephouria is the best song out of all
Speaker 2: of them. Are Euphoria to me, like the most. It's
Speaker 2: almost like a freaking like a Quentin Tarantino movie that
Speaker 2: you watch a few times and you're like, and then
Speaker 2: you watch it like the tenth time.
Speaker 1: In your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh shit, like he really predicted all. But like
Speaker 2: you said it, you know, I always say this, like
Speaker 2: I always had this this critique about Drake, and you know,
Speaker 2: Drake is the biggest hit maker ever, you know, wherever
Speaker 2: you want to put him on your all time list,
Speaker 2: I think it's once he sued you gotta be like
Speaker 2: dog some whole shit. But nonetheless, I hated that Drake
Speaker 2: you never knew how he felt about anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I tweeted that once, And then when.
Speaker 2: I've been saying this for years, I'm like, you don't
Speaker 2: know how Drake feels about you anything.
Speaker 1: Be at the top and not give commentary and narrative
Speaker 1: and introspection on anything. Right, it says that I have this,
Speaker 1: I have this position that historically everybody else that's been
Speaker 1: in this position that does that. But I decided not
Speaker 1: to take that position because you want to be safer
Speaker 1: the brands, So that makes you super commercial and that
Speaker 1: opens you up to the attack because being a top
Speaker 1: of hip hop is a responsibility. You feel me, like
Speaker 1: cultural responsibility. You feel me when things happen in the world.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying you gotta goddamn become TUPAC, but you
Speaker 1: gotta say something, say something because music curates, music narrates right,
Speaker 1: music is inspirational, aspirational, this is where we're going. That's
Speaker 1: a good thing that the Kendrick Lamars of the world
Speaker 1: have the ability to do. Right. He creates a soundtrack
Speaker 1: to the movement of what I'm seeing or what's happening culturally.
Speaker 1: Then he can get back to partying. You feel me.
Speaker 2: It's like you go to an event to Pimp a
Speaker 2: Butterfly and you're like, you know, I know a lot
Speaker 2: of people during like twenty twenty where like, Yo, this
Speaker 2: album is aged because people gave him shit about that album.
Speaker 2: That's my favorite.
Speaker 1: But it's like how much a dollar really costs? Think
Speaker 1: about this though.
Speaker 2: When I was growing up and I don't know how
Speaker 2: old you are, but I'm thirty eight, but like you know,
Speaker 2: there was always there was always like conscious level hip
Speaker 2: hop at a pretty high level of like even though
Speaker 2: rockets records and like common and most deaf and those
Speaker 2: guys were like technically underground, they were still going gold.
Speaker 2: They were still going platinum. I don't know who who
Speaker 2: that is right now? Like that's like like who's somebody
Speaker 2: who has like made I mean shout to Macklamore, who
Speaker 2: made a song about what's going on in Palestine, but
Speaker 2: somebody who's made like I guess the new version of
Speaker 2: protest music. I think Killer Mike's there. I think the
Speaker 2: Killer Mike's are og.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the last great song was Fucked Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Protest music for.
Speaker 2: Sure, because that song actually was getting played. Yeah, people were.
Speaker 2: You go to the club and.
Speaker 1: You would hear fuck Donald Trump right like meaning like
Speaker 1: it was a soundtrack to a movement. You feel me
Speaker 1: like what's the sentiment of the crowd. But I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of rappers don't want to go on
Speaker 1: to stand on something. They don't want to say something
Speaker 1: and didn't have to stand because they they're so you know,
Speaker 1: well destroys the music though, because it's the honesty, the
Speaker 1: authenticity that we love. I rather you tell me. Look, man,
Speaker 1: I took a check from Kamala, but I ain't really
Speaker 1: like it. Some of the things that Donald Trump says,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with some of the values. You feel
Speaker 1: me on the line, you feel me and you live,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I want to hear what's actually on
Speaker 1: your mind.
Speaker 2: When Ushup belonged at the Kamala thing, I was like,
Speaker 2: didn't this dude just say on TV he wasn't gonna
Speaker 2: endorse CNY, But like just.
Speaker 1: It's something like he was trying to get rid of
Speaker 1: ditty rooms or something.
Speaker 2: It did like you said, right, It's like almost like
Speaker 2: I just had this conversation. Are you familiar with Channel five,
Speaker 2: the kid Andrew who goes out and does like the
Speaker 2: He's got a dope YouTube channel. He's really really popular.
Speaker 2: But we were talking about how like there's this weird
Speaker 2: intersection of like people who were Bernie Sanders supporters and
Speaker 2: then those people voting for Trump in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: which is like crazy if you think about like how
Speaker 2: there's like this like weird venn diagram where there was
Speaker 2: enough of them to like agree on whatever intersected.
Speaker 1: Well, you gotta say, if you're gonna study history, you
Speaker 1: gotta study the Southern strategy, and the Southern strategy was
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to missalign and realign. How
Speaker 1: do when a base becomes unaligned with their base, it
Speaker 1: gives you an opportunity for you aligned with yours, right,
Speaker 1: And so it's how the Republicans is figuring out how
Speaker 1: to steal the Democratic base. Democrats will go so far.
Speaker 1: What would all black men have been complained about these
Speaker 1: last years is the emasculation of the black man? Who
Speaker 1: do we attribute that to the Democratic Party? So anybody
Speaker 1: that speaks to those values and made them feel like
Speaker 1: you are aligning with mine now, right. But then the
Speaker 1: Southern strategy goes towards this fact of how do we
Speaker 1: say nigga without saying nigga? Right? I forgot the guy
Speaker 1: and people go study the Southern strategy. Look it up
Speaker 1: on YouTube and you will see him. And he was
Speaker 1: basically saying, well, we can't say the nigga word no more.
Speaker 1: So we need to figure out a way to affect
Speaker 1: black people and have cold words without having to say it.
Speaker 1: So in one of the things he talked about tasts
Speaker 1: because he said, well, it's going to have the we
Speaker 1: if we're doing tax cuts only for the rich, and
Speaker 1: black people are the poorest, then it's going to fit
Speaker 1: them the most. Right. They will put together all of
Speaker 1: these things right. It's like the new way of saying
Speaker 1: DEI right? Or all these things? Or how do we
Speaker 1: figure out to affect these niggas without having to say nigga?
Speaker 1: And basically how do we stay white supremacists in power?
Speaker 1: And it's changing landscape because they understood that they couldn't
Speaker 1: do it direct no more. These are not my words.
Speaker 1: You can go study it and see. This has been
Speaker 1: a strategy that they've been working on imploring for a
Speaker 1: long time. And my thing, Kevin, is the fact that
Speaker 1: they laid out and said we're gonna have a first
Speaker 1: hundred days. The way to respond to that is, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: these gonna be our first hundred days. It's not to complain,
Speaker 1: it's not the protest. It's to respond. It's not to react,
Speaker 1: it's to respond, that's your first hundred days. Cool first
Speaker 1: hundred days. We don't like corporations because we feel like
Speaker 1: when they say FDI, they saying f black people, whether
Speaker 1: that's true or not, because black men don't feel so
Speaker 1: connected to it. Mostly because we don't know what we
Speaker 1: actually got from it, right, right, But whether that's true
Speaker 1: or not, we still get to utilize that moment to say, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: we want to boycott y'all anyway, because it's better for
Speaker 1: us to buycot with each other. So we got the boycott.
Speaker 1: We don't buy from y'all, but the bycot we buy
Speaker 1: for themselves, and we say, let's become pro sumers, let's
Speaker 1: produce what we consume. This is the greatest opportunity in
Speaker 1: Black American history for there to be a mass movement
Speaker 1: of realigning right with the radical thought processes of our
Speaker 1: own economic rights, our own economic vehicles, and where we
Speaker 1: create an economic network. We got digital nation states already.
Speaker 1: The problem, though, keV, is the fact that we don't
Speaker 1: all agree. So I'll call out all black organizations, from
Speaker 1: the NAACP to the Black CAUCUSS, to the NABJ, to
Speaker 1: all of these different and I say, okay, why don't
Speaker 1: we sit down and have a round table. Trump don't
Speaker 1: stop us from doing that. So you're telling me we
Speaker 1: can organize a protest, but we can't sit down with
Speaker 1: each other and come up with an agenda. How come
Speaker 1: we got the Divine Nine, which was started from the
Speaker 1: Boulet secret organizations based on Scoll and Bone activity. You
Speaker 1: got the Black Masons, you got the muslim You got
Speaker 1: all of them. So if I want to create change
Speaker 1: in America, I would go to all the leaders. Then
Speaker 1: I would get the people in every organization to ask, Yeah,
Speaker 1: why isn't the Black church sitting down with the Black Muslims.
Speaker 1: If we figure that this is our biggest incredible threat,
Speaker 1: if it is as bad as you saying, and this
Speaker 1: is the most radical shift that ever happened, then you
Speaker 1: not willing to do nothing radical to respond, right. That
Speaker 1: lets me know that either you're sold out, you don't care.
Speaker 1: Only time you do care, right is when you feel
Speaker 1: like you need to save face in front of the people.
Speaker 1: So you go be a Al Sharpton and go do
Speaker 1: a protest inside the Costco to bycop with them, which
Speaker 1: means absolutely nothing at all. That generation is just overw
Speaker 1: and dead because young people don't respect that shit. So
Speaker 1: for me, it's calling out us. Right. The ex King
Speaker 1: and President came out and said, way y'all crying it.
Speaker 1: He was talking to his.
Speaker 2: People, Oh I saw the Kenyan presidents. Yeah, he was
Speaker 2: like yo, let's build her own like the US don't
Speaker 2: like that, man.
Speaker 1: When they put sanctions when Trump originally put sanctions on
Speaker 1: China where they can buy chips, so Carley, right, But
Speaker 1: what they did to say, Okay, well, we're about to
Speaker 1: focus money towards how do we do it without y'all?
Speaker 2: And you get deep seek right right? An advance model
Speaker 2: fucked up? N vidio stock.
Speaker 1: What does that represent? When I look at that, you
Speaker 1: feel me like it gives you a blueprint? Man, listen,
Speaker 1: if you can't goddamn drinking they found, make your fountain better,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you can't go to
Speaker 1: those schools, make your school better, you feel me? Prove
Speaker 1: we don't need them, they need us. Because what happens.
Speaker 1: Americans number one, are the biggest consumers of the world,
Speaker 1: but Black Americans are the biggest consumers in America. If
Speaker 1: we shift our economic activity towards ourselves and creating our
Speaker 1: own vehicles, the problem is we afraid to think long term.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take some time. But so what this how
Speaker 1: you set up your children? Why would you want to
Speaker 1: have children in the world that you can't protect, that
Speaker 1: you can't say you know what when they was tripping.
Speaker 1: We built our own thing, and this is what we're
Speaker 1: proud of. That's why I got my show coming up.
Speaker 1: Save yourself and think about it like this, because it's
Speaker 1: a message to us. Save yourself. Right. If you see
Speaker 1: a man, grown man drowning in the poor right and
Speaker 1: nobody's helping him, why you think that is he's panicking,
Speaker 1: he's drowning, you know what I mean, he's tripping, and
Speaker 1: everybody just looking at him, Like, bro, say yourself because
Speaker 1: the whole time the water, not even that got there deep.
Speaker 1: All you have to do is stand up for himself.
Speaker 1: And this is the analogy I see with us. We
Speaker 1: act like we drowning when we not. All we got
Speaker 1: to ever really do is stand up. But we act
Speaker 1: like our legs don't work, we don't want to get
Speaker 1: to moving. So I see it as a viable option
Speaker 1: we got. When I talk about blockchain technology, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it from a capitalist stand view. I don't care
Speaker 1: if we don't own it. If they can create mean
Speaker 1: coins that circulate hundreds of millions of dollars among them,
Speaker 1: then how come we can't do that? Then we raise
Speaker 1: funds fast by major assets that we now own right
Speaker 1: and do for stuff. How can we create create our
Speaker 1: own First of all, you study Estonia. Estonia is one
Speaker 1: of the most digital nations in the world because they
Speaker 1: see where the world is going or they prepared for it.
Speaker 1: They responded, Now you can create a business in like
Speaker 1: ten minutes. You can become a citizen of Estonia and
Speaker 1: then contribute to their GDP right digitally. If you take
Speaker 1: that as a stance, and all these groups create their
Speaker 1: own digital nations and then they're buying physical assets, then
Speaker 1: they got their own currencies attached. Because we live in
Speaker 1: a time of blockchain, why are we not doing that?
Speaker 2: Because we're not focused and most people still don't even understand.
Speaker 1: Block We don't need everybody, We only need the leaders
Speaker 1: to understand it. I think the idea of trying to
Speaker 1: get people to unify, we look at it as if
Speaker 1: we need forty five men black people to come together.
Speaker 1: You don't need that. You going to take again these organizations.
Speaker 1: You take the top black organizations, bring their presidents and
Speaker 1: CEOs together and have a roundtable. If they don't want
Speaker 1: to come to the roundtables because they sold out and
Speaker 1: they owe another community more than they owe their own
Speaker 1: So it's about allegiance. I don't need unity. I don't
Speaker 1: even want everybody's unity because some people ain't worth shit
Speaker 1: right now, and I know they.
Speaker 2: Also there's real commerce and a real economy to the
Speaker 2: division and the fear that gets.
Speaker 1: They don't get paid to make solutions. It's like the
Speaker 1: homeless problem in California. They get home.
Speaker 2: Everybody's money, he continue to prepare you my god. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's so many people's salaries that are just.
Speaker 1: Our efficiency should be consistently increasing year over year and
Speaker 1: we should be getting better. That represents our growth. You know.
Speaker 2: What I thought was just like a surface level, kind
Speaker 2: of shallow perspective of like or the depiction of like,
Speaker 2: hey man, when Jimmy Carter's funeral happened and Brock and
Speaker 2: Trump were just laughing their ass off, I'm like, yo, Like,
Speaker 2: if this dude is like truly like the end of
Speaker 2: democracy and truly like as evil and bad and you
Speaker 2: know this fear porn that's been being pushed, you shouldn't
Speaker 2: be laughing with him. That's why I fuck with Michelle,
Speaker 2: because Michelle was like, I'm not going.
Speaker 1: I mean I've seen Michelle feeding uh George Bush mint
Speaker 1: or something one time as well though. And I remember
Speaker 1: when George Bush the Katrina president. You feel me, the
Speaker 1: Katrina president, that we act like he wasn't you.
Speaker 2: I mean, how many how many people in the Middle
Speaker 2: East were just.
Speaker 1: He went out there and just murdered and bond them in.
Speaker 1: And this is what when you look at that picture
Speaker 1: number one, Obama come out and scolding black man, and
Speaker 1: then months later at the Donald Trump win laughing with
Speaker 1: him and then not clearing it up at all at all.
Speaker 1: You feel me it's disrespectful. But what it really is
Speaker 1: is a clear picture of America. I think it's the
Speaker 1: Maraica we wanted to be.
Speaker 2: What it is level like guys, left wing, right wing,
Speaker 2: Saint berg bro, here's what it is.
Speaker 1: You don't think behind the scenes they not civil. Yes,
Speaker 1: generals give the at least the greatest opportunity to meet
Speaker 1: and have conversations, right because it's on the book. Everybody
Speaker 1: know what's happening, so they get the past messages. Otherwise
Speaker 1: it's very hard. They got to go through back channels
Speaker 1: and back channels, right, So it's very interesting. But again
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful time to save yourself, right, and what
Speaker 1: to save yourself. Look like it means like educating yourself
Speaker 1: and real strategies, right, being able to come together and
Speaker 1: sit down and talk about what we're about to do
Speaker 1: the next hundred days and executing that plan. Right. You
Speaker 1: don't have to do everything in front of the public,
Speaker 1: have it private, right, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: there's there should be coordination and organizing. Whether I don't
Speaker 1: care who sides you fall along, everybody should agree with
Speaker 1: the messages of save yourself because that's how this administration
Speaker 1: is moving. We're gonna tell you what we're doing. Now
Speaker 1: it's up to you to respond. This how we're gonna
Speaker 1: move the economy, right, this is what we gonna get
Speaker 1: rid of, this is what we don't like, and then
Speaker 1: like all right, y'all got y'all playbook. This is how
Speaker 1: we respond. Now, what do you?
Speaker 2: I got a question randomly because I know Trump had
Speaker 2: always had been floating getting rid of the Board of
Speaker 2: Education nationally and leaving it up to the states. I'm
Speaker 2: just curious from your perspective because then you've got states
Speaker 2: like Florida who are obviously gonna, you know, do the
Speaker 2: sand to stay, you know, take out all kinds of shit.
Speaker 2: But do you think it's a good or a bad thing?
Speaker 2: If it's like up to the States, what the curriculum
Speaker 2: is that kids are learning.
Speaker 1: I think it's both. I think I think the response
Speaker 1: should be right. I've always said digital education is a
Speaker 1: new Harvard People don't always like my takes on education though,
Speaker 1: but it is what it is. Like right now on TikTok,
Speaker 1: there's like they got this thing called human Hellman Talk
Speaker 1: right where essentially a bunch of professors are signed up
Speaker 1: to teach one on one classes, right like history one
Speaker 1: on one, a Black history one on one, a financial
Speaker 1: what's the problem with doing that? What's the problem with
Speaker 1: taking the responsibility in educating ourselves? Because they never go
Speaker 1: teach you certain things anyway. The education system has not
Speaker 1: been the one that created the prideful black American. It
Speaker 1: hasn't created you know. And number one, depending on where
Speaker 1: you live at right there's not even enough finances for
Speaker 1: you to get a proper and good education. They're creating memorization.
Speaker 2: That's really all it is. Because now you have to
Speaker 2: just pass the task.
Speaker 1: And that's not good enough for the world we live
Speaker 1: in no more.
Speaker 2: And then there's no uh, there's no national implement implementation
Speaker 2: of you know, learning financial literacy.
Speaker 1: I don't believe people care for it. I think they
Speaker 1: think they do, or a lot of time people miss aligned. Right.
Speaker 1: If that's the case, I would have had all kinds
Speaker 1: of donors lined up to be like keys, how can
Speaker 1: we amplify your platform. I ain't never had a black
Speaker 1: leader or organization ever come to me with any proposition whatsoever.
Speaker 1: So to me, it gives me I got my relationship right?
Speaker 1: Is a love and hate when that when something happens,
Speaker 1: how don't we respond accordingly? It's because we keep begging
Speaker 1: for somebody to save us, Like we ain't got no
Speaker 1: power when they cut off the education pipeline, then how
Speaker 1: come we don't create a national organization to educate ourselves
Speaker 1: and we identify teachers, philosophers and curriculum to figure out,
Speaker 1: all right, how do we have our own? No black
Speaker 1: child left behind? You feel me? Because education system don't
Speaker 1: work for us anyway. We are at the least educated.
Speaker 1: We look at the health department, we're the most unhealthy
Speaker 1: and healthy and like we don't want radicals. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: It's like, it's like that's the case for it it's like, well, guys,
Speaker 2: we're kind of getting smoked in the education.
Speaker 1: Look, I brun this textbook because it's a textbook we
Speaker 1: made when me and my brother Quaid code And as
Speaker 1: I was saying earlier, we had the free food, this
Speaker 1: is the new free food. I want to be able
Speaker 1: to get all of our knowledge in textbooks in every
Speaker 1: black home right to where we have the knowledge and
Speaker 1: skill sets to do for self. And no, now we
Speaker 1: don't have no excuses. Now, we just need to sit
Speaker 1: down as a family and learn and then execute. Because
Speaker 1: when you got the knowledge that's like in this book,
Speaker 1: we can do it. So we got a nonprofit to
Speaker 1: where either we're able to sell these or we work
Speaker 1: with people that will help us get them to people
Speaker 1: for free. Right, whether it's university students, whether it's just
Speaker 1: the average home. How do you get financial literacy inside
Speaker 1: the home because not even cent of our problems is
Speaker 1: based on money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's you know you said we're
Speaker 2: kind of I mean, we are a content society now,
Speaker 2: which is why it's dope, and you know, market mondays happens.
Speaker 2: And then you've got guys like on your leisure where
Speaker 2: crack under yourself, and it's like, there's really no excuse.
Speaker 2: There's no excuse.
Speaker 1: We just got to talk to people because.
Speaker 2: Maybe you don't want to read a textbook. Yeah, guess
Speaker 2: what all that shit is there?
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 2: I just set my mom because my mom's you know, older.
Speaker 1: But the textbook is just not to cut you with.
Speaker 1: But the textbook is just to go along with your digital.
Speaker 2: But it's like it's like at the end of the days,
Speaker 2: it's like, yo, how do we make sure that's why?
Speaker 1: How do we make sure we got no goddamn excuses
Speaker 1: and we can manage a process? Because let's say if
Speaker 1: I say, okay, well everybody got the textbook, now you
Speaker 1: join the class. Okay, turn the chapter forty two. You
Speaker 1: feel me? And then why you WoT to go over stocks?
Speaker 1: And how to do or or why to invest in
Speaker 1: bonds or how to dollar cost average and learn options
Speaker 1: and exactly what's QQQ whatever it is this is. This
Speaker 1: is not a competition to anybody's program. This is complementary
Speaker 1: to it. For sure, you feel me, And the goal
Speaker 1: is why don't we just have solutions like this, Let's
Speaker 1: get goddamn textbooks of our own history in every household
Speaker 1: and then have a digital component.
Speaker 2: You don't have to that you don't have to depend
Speaker 2: on the education system.
Speaker 1: Well, what does college have the most? They have the
Speaker 1: network and the experience. So now we need to figure
Speaker 1: out how do we create those experiences because fifty percent,
Speaker 1: according to Robert Smith, fifty percent of Black wealth goes
Speaker 1: towards college debt. Right, so we spend so much money
Speaker 1: getting an education as outdated that we can't even utilize
Speaker 1: to get ourselves ahead, which is dangerous. I want to
Speaker 1: figure out how we can be more efficient. Because he
Speaker 1: gave all that money to the HBCU. But my thing is,
Speaker 1: was all of those college students actually learning skill sets
Speaker 1: that can help you nation build, that are actually going
Speaker 1: to be valuable in the future. Because I would rather
Speaker 1: incentivize and say at that time every student who's learning
Speaker 1: engineering and AI and data analysts, so that in the
Speaker 1: future you have a large group of students that do
Speaker 1: have no debt and they're getting the most important jobs
Speaker 1: in the country. Right, That to me is strategic thinking,
Speaker 1: not just paying off the debt. But how do we
Speaker 1: incentivize and say we need more engineers? Right? We need
Speaker 1: to have our own category of people so that we
Speaker 1: have everything that we need and then how do we
Speaker 1: figure out how to educate that group in that class,
Speaker 1: because I don't need you to just walk across the stage.
Speaker 1: We need the people with the right valuable skills.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that, like you said, the experience is more.
Speaker 2: It's like more about that or the societal acceptance of well,
Speaker 2: I got a degree. Yeah, not to say that it's
Speaker 2: a bad thing to get a degree, but it's like
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, like you said, there's
Speaker 2: no boundaries to like, then you.
Speaker 1: Got to stop with anations. Free education is direct correlated
Speaker 1: to of course how much money you make. Right, there
Speaker 1: is a direct correlation. But we have to understand also
Speaker 1: now it's a non traditional education that you can get
Speaker 1: as well, and we have to recognize that. And a
Speaker 1: lot of times we use those as like badges, right
Speaker 1: against somebody that we consider to not be educated. It's
Speaker 1: just these fraternities. I went to this school, you didn't
Speaker 1: go to school. I'm better than you. But it couldn't
Speaker 1: be true because I didn't finish college, right, and I
Speaker 1: make more money nine nine percent people who did. So
Speaker 1: what makes me special? Right, It's the fact that I
Speaker 1: decided to educate myself. I think education is a lifelong
Speaker 1: journey for sure. Right to go to school and learn chat,
Speaker 1: GPT and deep seek and how to create AI agents
Speaker 1: right now. I mean you could take somebody's course on it.
Speaker 1: But the biggest thing is what we missing is just
Speaker 1: discipline to manage ourselves through the process. Yep, that's what
Speaker 1: it really comes down.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite I was fucking with RFK tough
Speaker 2: when he was running his third party campaign because I
Speaker 2: just liked his perspective on a lot of things. You
Speaker 2: had my favorite interview with him. I appreciate it. It was dope.
Speaker 2: It was I think it was like three hours. It
Speaker 2: was really long. I saw you just tweet yesterday the
Speaker 2: day before you treated make America healthy again. I fuck
Speaker 2: with RFK, what are your thoughts on because I look
Speaker 2: at the Trump thing is like you got to kind
Speaker 2: of like R take the wins and it's like, well,
Speaker 2: if RFK is the you know, like I feel like
Speaker 2: he's a genuine guy. He's a very interesting guy. He's
Speaker 2: had an interesting past. But you sat with him for
Speaker 2: a while, like, what are your thoughts on him? And
Speaker 2: being a part of I guess kind of making that decision.
Speaker 1: I think what he it's very interesting. I think his
Speaker 1: goal was strategically put himself in position to leverage that
Speaker 1: influence that he had as he was creating a base
Speaker 1: while he was running for president, whether he was going
Speaker 1: to talk to Kamala or whether he was going to
Speaker 1: be talking.
Speaker 2: To Trump, and Kamala I think declined, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And he declined. I believe Trump had been asking him
Speaker 1: before to come with him, and I believe he was
Speaker 1: declining at the time, and then he realized that, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: if the Democrats are not gonna have me at all,
Speaker 1: they're not even gonna speak to me.
Speaker 2: I mean. And they were actively weaponizing like everything they
Speaker 2: could against him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And when we sit down, it's interesting because again
Speaker 1: going back to the high level conversations, society is not
Speaker 1: used to critical thinking and independent thinking, so they weaponized
Speaker 1: statements that he said. Right, And when you go look
Speaker 1: at a lot of those people in Congress, and those
Speaker 1: politicians would speak of course they're funded by big pharma, right.
Speaker 1: And if America is a very unhealthy place already, you
Speaker 1: will want radical change. The last person they had in
Speaker 1: there doesn't look like somebody who should be held in
Speaker 1: a health department whatsoever. I think you should number one,
Speaker 1: have to be healthy to run a health department.
Speaker 2: Fair enough.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a key because it was the trend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the d I don't know what it was, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a transformer. Without shay Luba, it
Speaker 1: was different. And I think that the goal should be,
Speaker 1: how do we disrupt this industry? Big Farmer got so
Speaker 1: much power and they in so many people pockets that
Speaker 1: these politicians can't think for theirselfs if they wanted to.
Speaker 1: They puppets the things that they were talking about against them.
Speaker 1: You know, Robert F. Kennedy met with the nation in
Speaker 1: Islam and he gave high praises an honorable minister a
Speaker 1: little far come, which is a rare thing. Right, most
Speaker 1: black politicians would never even do that. Can you get
Speaker 1: some respect from me automatically? When you're working with the FBI,
Speaker 1: I mean not the FBI, FOI in Los Angeles, right
Speaker 1: to get information about the research behind these vaccines and
Speaker 1: what's possibly in them. Then of course there's just a
Speaker 1: research about all these artificial ingredients and chemicals that we intake.
Speaker 1: Then we have, of course, we are the most acceptable
Speaker 1: population black people. We have specifically, black men have the
Speaker 1: highest number when it comes to cancer and heart disease
Speaker 1: and blood pressure and depression and suicide and all these things.
Speaker 1: So you should want to see a radical change first, right.
Speaker 1: That means there should be a war on these things.
Speaker 1: American people should be This is to me, the most
Speaker 1: important campaign out of all of them, right, make America healthy. Now.
Speaker 1: I think that I don't think that all of these
Speaker 1: departments are truly aligned. And want, of course Robert F.
Speaker 1: Kennedy to be in there, because it would be the
Speaker 1: most radical thing that comes over for sure. It just
Speaker 1: reps the hell out the money. Yes, but he said
Speaker 1: some things that black people have been saying for a
Speaker 1: long time. He said that our immune systems are better now.
Speaker 1: This is what we like to always believe anyway. But
Speaker 1: it was funny because that became the hot topic, like
Speaker 1: this man lost his mind. But he was citing a
Speaker 1: study from Poland. And Poland does more studies than most places.
Speaker 1: I think they like number eighth in the world. But
Speaker 1: the funny thing is people will say, well, ninety nine
Speaker 1: percent of our genome is the same, but it's the
Speaker 1: zero point one percent that is a lot, right, it
Speaker 1: goes from bone dincity, it goes to a fast twitch
Speaker 1: muscle response you feel me. It even goes to our
Speaker 1: response to medications and things of that nature. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot of truth to what he was saying as
Speaker 1: far as our immune system, our neuromelanin, our melanin. So
Speaker 1: I would like to see scientists refute him, not politicians.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing, is like it felt more of
Speaker 2: like a you know, especially like when I saw the
Speaker 2: Bernie thing, because I love Bernie. You know, Bernie's burning.
Speaker 1: Somebody call Bernie be capping to Bernie be fakan.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I would say the last four you
Speaker 2: have been disappointing with some of his voting sides.
Speaker 1: But in terms of like Bernie is definitely on the
Speaker 1: Zionist side too, the RFK side, right, It's like he
Speaker 1: is for sure. I asked him about that.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh man, But it was interesting to see that confirmation.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yo, like, y'all are really just barking
Speaker 2: down on this full despite you guys, not like you
Speaker 2: guys are like like democrats should be in theory aligned
Speaker 2: with most of the things he says, but he's on
Speaker 2: the other side.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, well we'll see. Is I think they don't
Speaker 1: care about the American people. They care about winning this
Speaker 1: war of power. Yeah. Right, So even if the Trump
Speaker 1: did something they agree with, they'll never ever, ever will
Speaker 1: tell you. And this is my problem with both sides.
Speaker 1: When Trump does something, I don't care if you are
Speaker 1: in the Maga colt. If he does something you don't
Speaker 1: agree with and you can't speak out right, that makes
Speaker 1: you a slave yep, makes you weak mind us. Right.
Speaker 1: I respect those that say I voted for the guy,
Speaker 1: but I don't respect what he did with this right
Speaker 1: they And that's where you see the noise of a
Speaker 1: person that can actually think. But beyond that, that's dangerous.
Speaker 1: You feel me and it's weak minded. So I don't
Speaker 1: care if you're a Republican or Democrat. If you can't
Speaker 1: point out good when it's good or bad when.
Speaker 2: It's bad, that you're a cult member.
Speaker 1: And when Donald Trump comes out there and say stuff
Speaker 1: like it's DEI and what you want me to do?
Speaker 1: Swim in the water. And when we talk about meeting
Speaker 1: with the people the crash site is what it really
Speaker 1: does is it makes people less empathetic. See, a good
Speaker 1: leader makes people more human, right, you do those things
Speaker 1: not because you want to, not even for the logic
Speaker 1: of it. It's so that you exemple our humanity. So
Speaker 1: we treat each other with that same respect and dignity
Speaker 1: and honor and empathy as well. And so this is
Speaker 1: what I'm seeing in leadership. I'm seeing a lack of that,
Speaker 1: completely pushing contempt and conflict amongst their basis, which is
Speaker 1: exciting more civil war.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the lack of well, the actually is not
Speaker 2: even a lack. There was zero, zero Palestinian representation at
Speaker 2: the DNC, which that believe it was four days and
Speaker 2: it was like, like you said, empathy, humanity, It's like,
Speaker 2: how is there Like, well.
Speaker 1: You know, all of the activists they decided to be
Speaker 1: quiet during the campaign of Kamala Harris because they believe
Speaker 1: she was gonna get in there and possibly do something,
Speaker 1: even though you know her husband is Jewish. I don't
Speaker 1: see she was gonna do anything. She constantly said, I'm
Speaker 1: not changing nothing, no matter who's gonna be president.
Speaker 2: Now, what's that?
Speaker 1: What they did is you can't be revolutionary in one moment,
Speaker 1: but now I'm political right now, I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: nothing if you can't hold feet to the fire of
Speaker 1: the person because the way you vote radically is that
Speaker 1: you put the person that you were more equipped to
Speaker 1: fight in office right, and then once they get in office,
Speaker 1: you fight them right to keep their promise to you.
Speaker 1: And people forget that relationship with politicians. So if you
Speaker 1: voted for Donald Trump, it doesn't mean you now bowed
Speaker 1: down to him. You now have to fight him to
Speaker 1: keep his promises that you were aligned with when he ran.
Speaker 1: And that is the regardless of what kind of leadership,
Speaker 1: whether it was Kamala or him, it would have been
Speaker 1: the same fight to keep that politician aligned with the
Speaker 1: things that you aligned with or the people have to
Speaker 1: have it or else.
Speaker 2: Do you think there would have been a I'll call
Speaker 2: it a for face value cease fire if Kamala would
Speaker 2: have won.
Speaker 1: Nah, I don't even think she would have tried to
Speaker 1: really push for one, and I don't think people would
Speaker 1: have cared. You know what I'm saying. Trump is the
Speaker 1: person that tries to prove out his power and leadership,
Speaker 1: but then he makes deals behind the scenes. He talking
Speaker 1: about pushing him over to Egypt, even if not gonna
Speaker 1: have the people.
Speaker 2: That's the new ship. Yeah, that's the new shit. And
Speaker 2: then we said today then at that.
Speaker 1: As a beachfront property that they can go clear out
Speaker 1: and take.
Speaker 2: Over and put Trump Tower. I mean even today he
Speaker 2: said something about they said that if Natan y'aho violates
Speaker 2: the ceasefire, there won't be tariff's on Israel because he's
Speaker 2: got to do what he's got to do. And to me,
Speaker 2: it's like, I mean that just kind of that.
Speaker 1: Gives you no reason. That means there's not a real
Speaker 1: cease fire.
Speaker 2: It's not real, no consequence because if it was a
Speaker 2: real ceasefire to be consequences on both sides.
Speaker 1: That means there's a negotiation to go along. Just make
Speaker 1: me seem like I got the power so that I
Speaker 1: can leverage this period of time right until y'all decide
Speaker 1: y'all want to fire back and take over, right so
Speaker 1: I can show stability and control as a powerful leader.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing with TikTok. You can't download TikTok
Speaker 1: because it's still banned, right, But in lou you're going
Speaker 1: to do this negotiation to try to figure out which
Speaker 1: American country, I mean company can get controlled. So what
Speaker 1: I need y'all to do is shut it down for
Speaker 1: a day and then thank me for negotiating when you open.
Speaker 2: The line gets his name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all strategy. He played it. He's a negotiator.
Speaker 1: He is a businessman. He know how to play the game.
Speaker 2: He is a master manipulator of that.
Speaker 1: Every politician is. That's the whole thing. And I just
Speaker 1: try to understand is why does the average person think
Speaker 1: that billionaires, right, and these huge tech elites have their
Speaker 1: best interest at heart when historically you never believe that. Ever,
Speaker 1: that's always been a fight. And if you're a so
Speaker 1: called patriot of this country, your job would be to
Speaker 1: keep them aligned. Your job would be to keep them
Speaker 1: aligned with the so called constitution. Your job would be
Speaker 1: to keep the people in line with the threat of
Speaker 1: revolt that if you all don't put this country first
Speaker 1: and put the freedoms of the people first, not to
Speaker 1: push the vision amongst the people. If you push the vision,
Speaker 1: you're a terrible leader, full stop. Right. Elon Musk goes
Speaker 1: on his platform every single day and push the vision.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he does it in this dog whistle way
Speaker 2: where he'll reply to a tweet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's very three posted you saying it yes,
Speaker 1: you can't hide by somebody else repost. You say it,
Speaker 1: because then to me, that's cowardly. If you're the richest
Speaker 1: man in the world, so call league, and you have
Speaker 1: one of the most powerful platforms in the world, just
Speaker 1: say it. But what it does is it's a whistle
Speaker 1: to a base of people, right that do think like
Speaker 1: that one hundred percent. You're telling them that, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: with you German, Germany, is time for your to be
Speaker 1: great again. You know what I'm saying. America's time to
Speaker 1: be great again. South Africa, it's time for be great again.
Speaker 1: You're talking to these people. What are you doing? You
Speaker 1: igniting a national white base right to say that we
Speaker 1: have to rally together because it's about to be dangerous
Speaker 1: times to us. It is a signal around the world.
Speaker 1: If you can't obviously see that, right, you will see
Speaker 1: it very soon. It's gonna be very hard for you
Speaker 1: to defend right the people that you defend now, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be blatantly obvious and the only thing that's gonna
Speaker 1: stop them.
Speaker 2: Do you think that his salute was the Nazi salute
Speaker 2: on purpose? You think he cognitively did that on purpose?
Speaker 1: Man, the one thing about me is I got excellent vision.
Speaker 1: You know, I can see with my eyes in my mind,
Speaker 1: I don't need nobody to interpret nothing from me. I'll
Speaker 1: be a goddamn fool. You know what I'm saying. If
Speaker 1: you walk in the room, you see a girl kiss
Speaker 1: another dude and she said, no, I wasn't kissing him.
Speaker 1: You know how bird Man saw you wasn't kissing Wayne
Speaker 1: disrespect We Oh, well, we ain't just see that. I
Speaker 1: saw what I saw. The most dangerous thing is somebody
Speaker 1: tell you didn't see what you saw, right, And I
Speaker 1: think that you have to think about it from that standpoint.
Speaker 1: You saw it with clear evidence, right, But they have
Speaker 1: the ability to tell you what you see with your eyes,
Speaker 1: what you hear, what you sense is not real. So
Speaker 1: now you can't trust yourself. Now you have to wait
Speaker 1: for somebody else to interpret reality for you, right, And
Speaker 1: you're gonna make excuse for everything. It's funny. I seen
Speaker 1: Andrew Schultz talking about this, and he was explaining how
Speaker 1: it would have been better if he would have just
Speaker 1: apologized for it essentially versus act like it didn't happen, right,
Speaker 1: And I've seen other people say the same thing and
Speaker 1: Eli has yet to do that.
Speaker 2: Because even could just say, hey, this is what it was.
Speaker 2: I was in that moment, I have crazy hand gestures. Instead,
Speaker 2: he kind of like on Twitter, he'll retweet like he retweeted,
Speaker 2: I think Kamla did something at the fire or anything
Speaker 2: that looks like it.
Speaker 1: That's stupid. What they do is when something happens like that,
Speaker 1: they run a psychological program and put out certain words,
Speaker 1: like the word awkward. So then you will see every
Speaker 1: respondent and everybody that talks about it using a word
Speaker 1: it was an awkward thing. Why is everybody using the
Speaker 1: same exact script, right, It's a psychological programming, so that
Speaker 1: now instead of you're thinking of it as what you've seen,
Speaker 1: you say, oh, it was just awkward. He's just autistic
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. He's on the spectrum when it
Speaker 1: comes to these things.
Speaker 2: No, it comes to being the richest man a lot.
Speaker 1: When if you can't stand on the stage and not
Speaker 1: do a Nazi salute because you autistic, that's a problem,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So for me, I think
Speaker 1: that he's in too intelligent to not be intentional what
Speaker 1: he does. Right, if you have the biggest platform in
Speaker 1: the entire world. And another thing to Adl like, man, listen,
Speaker 1: we not even triple. This is the first time I've
Speaker 1: ever seen ad L job for somebody.
Speaker 2: Why they ran Kyrie through the year, through the Mud?
Speaker 1: But why because they know that we're going to get
Speaker 1: more by going along right and acting like you didn't
Speaker 1: see what you saw. It's better for us to explain
Speaker 1: it away. That's part of the Hitler program. You just
Speaker 1: explain it away, right, So they have the best psychological
Speaker 1: programs when it comes to controlling and manipulating the people.
Speaker 2: That's crazy because it's like you see, like apak ad L,
Speaker 2: like guys like Stephen Miller, like it's like just ignoring
Speaker 2: you know what they their core value don't.
Speaker 1: Lie with their agenda. Right, If they're going to get
Speaker 1: more by them having a president and they got Elon
Speaker 1: who will be running point on a lot of the
Speaker 1: plans they got going on, then why won't we attack
Speaker 1: him when we need him to stay this credible person
Speaker 1: in the media because he's going to do so much
Speaker 1: for Israel. So it would make suse that they had
Speaker 1: called their people and be like, yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you remember when he was critical of Israel? And
Speaker 2: then like a week later when what.
Speaker 1: They had them conversations, yea a visit. Do you remember
Speaker 1: did the visit and a lady when he went to
Speaker 1: go visit the lady said he was completely unempathetic. He
Speaker 1: didn't care, he wasn't paying attention, and he was just like,
Speaker 1: let's just get this business over with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing is even recently, I want to say,
Speaker 2: last week he replied to something that was Listen.
Speaker 1: I know behind the scenes they don't get along. But
Speaker 1: he's an elite, right, people like Elon Musk and other
Speaker 1: elits like that. What drives him is power, right purely,
Speaker 1: It's power, nothing else, So you can't understand it when
Speaker 1: you're trying to look at it from any other standpoint.
Speaker 1: It's just power. If I can get more power and
Speaker 1: more power and more power, it's a drug. So at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I don't care about human
Speaker 1: beings and casualties, right, I don't care about morality or
Speaker 1: nothing else. It's power. How can I get more power?
Speaker 1: And for him, he is in a perfect position to
Speaker 1: just wield that power however he wants to.
Speaker 2: He's the richest man alive and now he has governmental power.
Speaker 2: Like the dose. Thing is a real thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Department of Governing Efficiency is very interesting. But
Speaker 1: the way I look at things in a nuance, I'm like,
Speaker 1: first of all, the government is very inefficient, the bureaucracy,
Speaker 1: and then to the culture, I relate that to Black America.
Speaker 1: We need our own department of government efficiency. We need
Speaker 1: to defund certain people that so called represent us but
Speaker 1: never get any impact of change, and we need to
Speaker 1: divert those efforts, attention and money to people that are impactful,
Speaker 1: and we will see the world change right in the
Speaker 1: next first one hundred days.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you know, we talked about it a
Speaker 2: little bit earlier. A lot of the people that you're
Speaker 2: probably thinking of got big houses. Oh yeah, they got
Speaker 2: big bills, been living real nicely off of the plight
Speaker 2: for years and years and years, and whether it's hanging
Speaker 2: out at a costco bro.
Speaker 1: The our sharp era is over, the civil rights era
Speaker 1: is over. And what I mean by that is there's
Speaker 1: no disrespect to those who lay real foundational efforts right
Speaker 1: to make progress that had it really in their heart.
Speaker 1: And I believe that it's not just one of the other.
Speaker 1: Now we get to kind of look at the progress
Speaker 1: that our ancestors fought for. And we also get to
Speaker 1: think about what else our ancestors died for, because we
Speaker 1: act like the voting is the only thing they died for, right,
Speaker 1: and know they died for our economic power. Right, they
Speaker 1: die for our family power, They died for our pride
Speaker 1: with them selves. They die for our political power. Right.
Speaker 1: They died for multiple things for us to know who
Speaker 1: we are. But we push the political voting power anytime.
Speaker 1: We evoke our ancestors. And it's time for us to
Speaker 1: resurrect different ancestors now and move on them because the
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King ain't gonna get us through this time. Right.
Speaker 1: Just think about if we evoke the thebo Elijah Muhammad
Speaker 1: and the Marcus Garvey as the main ancestors right that
Speaker 1: we want to resurrect in our activities, we changed the
Speaker 1: world overnight. There was a silent protest. I think it
Speaker 1: was nineteen or seventeen or something like that. It was
Speaker 1: the first political protests in this country. And what they
Speaker 1: was doing is they were holding up signs. One of
Speaker 1: the signs was about we got one hundred million acres
Speaker 1: of land? Is something like that work? One hundred thousand
Speaker 1: acres of land? I forgot how much it was, but
Speaker 1: it was like, it's worth one hundred million dollars. And
Speaker 1: then they had this long list of all of the
Speaker 1: different careers and the amount of people that they had
Speaker 1: in each one, right from brick mason layers to nurses, right.
Speaker 1: And they went out there to protest because at the
Speaker 1: time there was an incident where there was some killings
Speaker 1: in East Saint Louis, I believe, and the protest wasn't
Speaker 1: less shout. The protest is like saying to this government,
Speaker 1: we've never participated in trying to assassinate the president. We
Speaker 1: were the first ones to shed blood for this country
Speaker 1: in the war. Right, we've done our part and we've
Speaker 1: been doing our part, and we're not asking for nothing.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it is the government job
Speaker 1: to provide opportunity for citizens. But the message I seen
Speaker 1: was towards each other. We don't need to say nothing. Well, really,
Speaker 1: this is what we need to do. If we have
Speaker 1: ten thousand nurses, we got our own hospitals. If we
Speaker 1: have people that are in electrical and engineering and architecture
Speaker 1: and entrepreneur fields, we can build our own cities. Right,
Speaker 1: we not go cry to them and say save me.
Speaker 1: The message was let's save ourselves, and if we responded
Speaker 1: like that each and every time, we would win because
Speaker 1: it will force us to become closer and closer and closer.
Speaker 1: And so the mindset that we need to have is
Speaker 1: a mindset of resilience. And there's no more resilient people
Speaker 1: than Black Americans, never have ever been, because the way
Speaker 1: that we respond to things and resilience is the ability
Speaker 1: for to get bent out of shape and get back
Speaker 1: into it right. So we're always taken out of our nature.
Speaker 1: You might be made of slaves and you get back
Speaker 1: to a warrior. You feel me. We might have to
Speaker 1: go through crack eras and go through the creation of
Speaker 1: ghettos in America and black codes, but then we always
Speaker 1: get back to it. Black men specifically are the biggest
Speaker 1: social activists and health advocates right in this country. We
Speaker 1: get back to it each and every time. But they
Speaker 1: try to paint it as if we'd just been failing
Speaker 1: and falling. No, we've been fighting and fighting and fighting,
Speaker 1: and we never stop fighting. That's resilience. We never stopped
Speaker 1: producing brilliance. If it wasn't no Elijah Muhammad, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be here speaking to you today in a matter in
Speaker 1: which I do. Each generation gets back to this resilience
Speaker 1: and saying all right, let's get back focus, and let's
Speaker 1: get back to this money, let's get back to this power,
Speaker 1: Let's make our own music. Let's have our cultural revolution.
Speaker 1: Like damn if I went to Japan a few months
Speaker 1: ago and it's the greatest place to ever visited. Japan
Speaker 1: is essentially culturally where we want to be. They had
Speaker 1: a cultural revolution called bushido, right, and the bushido is
Speaker 1: the code of show Gun and the warrior class to
Speaker 1: samaraize in their writings on how they lived to not
Speaker 1: only know the art of war, but the art of
Speaker 1: piece right, and they learn how to live this balance.
Speaker 1: And if you read it, you go through this collection
Speaker 1: of these generals and warriors and the way they think
Speaker 1: about life right and talk about how this one word
Speaker 1: was he was stone cold killer, but then on his
Speaker 1: off time he was a gardener. Right. He understood how
Speaker 1: to take life and how to nurture life right. And
Speaker 1: in that he's seen this sense of balance on how
Speaker 1: to live. They give a breakdown of how to clean
Speaker 1: and why to clean that when you cleaning during the day,
Speaker 1: it's also you cleaning your mind and it allows you
Speaker 1: time to think. And then at night you don't clean,
Speaker 1: you just put things in place because it represents your
Speaker 1: mind getting and gathering yourself. And if you watch anime,
Speaker 1: all anime put bushido lessons in there so that it
Speaker 1: keeps and preserves the culture. But during that time of
Speaker 1: them producing that bushido for the people, they had to
Speaker 1: go through some economic stagnation because they had to sacrifice
Speaker 1: some capitalization for the ethics of it, all right, some morality.
Speaker 1: And now today when you go out there, and this
Speaker 1: is a good example. You know, if you've ever been
Speaker 1: late to work, and you worked a corporate job, right,
Speaker 1: and you can't find no parking if you late, because
Speaker 1: everybody don't park the course in the good spots. But
Speaker 1: in Japan there are certain practices where people will park
Speaker 1: farther away the earlier they come, so just in case
Speaker 1: somebody woke up late. Right. They have empathy for each
Speaker 1: other and understand, it's not me versus you. This is
Speaker 1: a cohesive harmony of people living in existence. And this
Speaker 1: is ancestral practice. This is us how do we coexist,
Speaker 1: not do how we compete with each other? So for me,
Speaker 1: we out of harmony with that, and we're going to
Speaker 1: go through continue to go through these crazy weather events.
Speaker 1: The hoppy people predicted it a long time ago that
Speaker 1: we were going to extract so much from the land,
Speaker 1: right that essentially nature will fight back. Right, These fires
Speaker 1: that can continue to happen this year because fire is cleansing, right.
Speaker 1: It needs to happen. It's going to have to happen
Speaker 1: because where we're going as a society is not sustainable.
Speaker 1: So the resilience in the mind of being and flow
Speaker 1: and instead of thinking of ourselves as a machine, how
Speaker 1: we just work more, How we start to become regenerative
Speaker 1: to where that which we put in produces more. So
Speaker 1: it's not just extraction extraction right for me, the whole
Speaker 1: thing is just getting back to indigenous ways, getting back
Speaker 1: to ancestral ways, but utilizing modern technology and resources to
Speaker 1: be way more efficient than they ever could during their time.
Speaker 1: How would you run a Malcolm X's play during this time?
Speaker 1: Why would you run the Aja Mohammed play during this time? Right?
Speaker 1: How would you run Madam C. J. Walker play during
Speaker 1: this time? Right? And I think the most dangerous prevaliant
Speaker 1: mindset is that we're so much capitalist but I don't
Speaker 1: think that's sustainable for us, right, I think we feel
Speaker 1: too much. Just be greedy. Cap If you are talking
Speaker 1: to my brother Keingan Beasley, he was talking about how
Speaker 1: if you go look at the average super elite rich person,
Speaker 1: they not happy. There is a karma that comes with
Speaker 1: that of just getting over on people, just getting more
Speaker 1: and more and more and more. They can't even sleep,
Speaker 1: they don't get a good night's rest. I don't think
Speaker 1: that that's sustainable for people who feel a lot, and
Speaker 1: we feel a lot. That's how we've been able to
Speaker 1: be taking advantage of historically having too much emotional empathy
Speaker 1: for others. So we have to be able to be
Speaker 1: in harmony with the technology and have dominion over it,
Speaker 1: not it controlling us. Because another single greatest threat to
Speaker 1: mental health is goddamn doom scrolling. You feel me like, man,
Speaker 1: you just find yourself down this whole of stimulation because
Speaker 1: that's what you're trying to do. So you can't focus
Speaker 1: because when you focus now, it's like this is too boring.
Speaker 1: But boring is another word for peaceful, right, So if
Speaker 1: you replace your vocabulary saying man, this is too peaceful,
Speaker 1: you will hear yourself self? The hell wrong with me?
Speaker 1: Why can't sit still? You feel me? Why can't I
Speaker 1: be in darkness for a minute and relax my mind?
Speaker 1: So therefore you want to have low stimulation and do
Speaker 1: low stimulation activities so it decreases your baseline, so you
Speaker 1: don't need these high right dopamine hits of constantly getting
Speaker 1: scrolling watching what's my next comment? What's the next thing happening? Now?
Speaker 1: You can't god damn focus on nothing. Now you're not
Speaker 1: excited about nothing. Now you got damn watching porn and
Speaker 1: you can't enjoy real women. You know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: The women hitting themselves with the roses. They don't care
Speaker 1: if you bring her rose. I'm talking about the flowers.
Speaker 1: They ain't stimulated by that. They need that electrical activity instead. Man,
Speaker 1: you supost that comes from Oakland. We'll say something potent
Speaker 1: to a woman and she'll live off that for a
Speaker 1: few days. Right, you know what I'm saying. Now she
Speaker 1: about to go watch justin little Boy quote and forget
Speaker 1: about you. You know what I'm saying, Like, we got
Speaker 1: to get back to slowing down, to speed up, right,
Speaker 1: And I think that it's not about unifying with everybody
Speaker 1: by finding your tribe right now, people who agree with
Speaker 1: the same value, same moral systems. We got to learn
Speaker 1: how to communicate to ourselves in the world right like
Speaker 1: part of the high level conversation booking things I'm putting
Speaker 1: together right now, I think the most thing that people
Speaker 1: ask me to teach him is how to communicate. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about from celebrities to NBA players, to leaders
Speaker 1: to other speakers. They want to know how to hell
Speaker 1: do our communicate? So I started putting together this framework
Speaker 1: from a type one speaker to a type five and
Speaker 1: how to go from just being a memorizer of things
Speaker 1: to becoming an influential, passionate speaker. And men need to
Speaker 1: learn how to speak to women. Again, I ain't talking
Speaker 1: about the little fake ris y'all be doing you feel
Speaker 1: me with the little fake gang, because if you can
Speaker 1: get a woman to fall in love with you by
Speaker 1: being yourself, that's sustainable, you feel me.
Speaker 2: I just told this to my boy yesterday. He said
Speaker 2: he's going through with his girl or some girl he's
Speaker 2: talking to is just a psychopaths And I was like,
Speaker 2: this is the first girl he had. In a minute,
Speaker 2: He's you know, he's kind of lost some weight, swag
Speaker 2: a little going, and he got to, you know, he
Speaker 2: got a girl, and but this the first chick he's had.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, seven or eight years and I'm
Speaker 2: telling this guy, I'm like, hey, bro, this girl is
Speaker 2: like not good for you. Dog, she's a bad person. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but he said, he said, I just man like, I
Speaker 2: just don't got game like that. He almost like was
Speaker 2: talking like as if this was the only girl he
Speaker 2: could get. And I was like, the problem you're having, bro,
Speaker 2: is like you're approaching that as like having game as
Speaker 2: opposed to just being yourself and having a girl who
Speaker 2: just fucked with you for that. Dog. So now that
Speaker 2: you got physically in shape and you got some confidence, bro,
Speaker 2: just be yourself and the women will come full Like
Speaker 2: you ain't got to like settle for somebody who's gonna
Speaker 2: like be bad for your peace of mind.
Speaker 1: See, you know what happens with a lot of men
Speaker 1: is they they learn how to tap into the light side.
Speaker 1: Let me be a really good guy and try to
Speaker 1: get a woman. They don't know to talk into the
Speaker 1: dark side. Right, You feel me, When you don't need nobody,
Speaker 1: a woman wants you more, you feel me when you dangerous.
Speaker 1: She wants some feel like you can protect her. You
Speaker 1: feel me when you persuasive, and maybe I gotta focus
Speaker 1: on my goal, can't focus on you. You will provide her.
Speaker 1: You a man that is gonna get money. You feel
Speaker 1: me like you working out and things of that nature. Man,
Speaker 1: you position yourself again, going back to the bushido, to
Speaker 1: be a man who knows the art of piece and
Speaker 1: art of war. A woman ain't gonna fall in love
Speaker 1: with a man that just know the art of piece.
Speaker 1: Feel me because what she looks at is dark traits subconsciously.
Speaker 1: And this is what a lot of men don't realize.
Speaker 1: You could be a nice guy, look good, all of that,
Speaker 1: but then the other guy who got the dark trait,
Speaker 1: she's thinking more long term, he can actually protect me
Speaker 1: when I need to. Yes, and making a woman feel safe,
Speaker 1: it's number one on her list, you feel me. That's
Speaker 1: why they look for finances. It's safety in it. I
Speaker 1: don't want to goddamn be poor out in the streets
Speaker 1: selling it to somebody who don't need it. You feel
Speaker 1: me giving it away just because so there's a development
Speaker 1: of that masculine darkness and that masculine light and the
Speaker 1: problem is is that she usually seeks a man that
Speaker 1: has too much darkness or too much light. So when
Speaker 1: she find the nineteen keys in words, she said, that's
Speaker 1: just right, you know I'm talking about But I only
Speaker 1: exist right here. It ain't too many me in existence.
Speaker 1: So I want to teach the average man right how
Speaker 1: to tap into that darkness and that light so he
Speaker 1: can move with balance in the world. You feel me,
Speaker 1: And then every woman go, w ont you.
Speaker 2: Talk to me? What are your thoughts on? I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's actually gonna happen, But the declassification of
Speaker 2: the JFK assassination and the MLK assassinations, well, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I'm more interested in a Malcolm X's assassination for sure.
Speaker 1: That would have been that would have been a good
Speaker 1: one that I think that would be one that creates
Speaker 1: some cures in the black community and heals some divisions.
Speaker 1: But the Martin Luther King JFK, I mean, I look
Speaker 1: at it as part of Trump's plan to make people
Speaker 1: distrust the government more right and the democratic basis, which
Speaker 1: essentially gives him more power. Right, he goes after the FBI,
Speaker 1: he goes out to these groups. He paints them as
Speaker 1: the villains. He created his own new corporations or institutions
Speaker 1: or whatever. You trust them more everything that I see
Speaker 1: them do. I'm asking why, how is it gonna benefit you?
Speaker 2: Especially with him?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you're doing something that make people distrust
Speaker 1: the government and you are the government, how does that
Speaker 1: benefit unless your goal is to have your own government essentially,
Speaker 1: or to be able to rule and say, why would
Speaker 1: you trust the FBI? Look what they did to JFK.
Speaker 1: Look what they did to Martin Luther King.
Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a huge wave of the
Speaker 2: privatization of a lot of the things that the CIA.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, uh, we've seen it already.
Speaker 1: Obviously. Oh yeah, they've been on that already.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. But I think now it's like if you,
Speaker 2: if you, I mean like and the CIA and the
Speaker 2: FBI have been running unchecked rapidly for years. I mean
Speaker 2: a lot of the people who are being deported are
Speaker 2: coming from places that the United States government destabilized.
Speaker 1: FBI task forces created to watch Marcus Garvey that was
Speaker 1: created for like, our relationship is the worst for them.
Speaker 1: I don't trust none of the files that they actually have,
Speaker 1: especially the ones that they had on Martin Luther King
Speaker 1: when they was talking about his sexual habits and things
Speaker 1: of that nature. Because that nigga who is the head
Speaker 1: of the FBI, what's his name, not trum Hoover. His
Speaker 1: whole thing was to discredit black leaders. So I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if he makes up pure fiction right to
Speaker 1: talk shit about a man so that he can discredit
Speaker 1: him morally so that you don't listen to him.
Speaker 2: And how many honeypot operations they were just running on
Speaker 2: people just rapidly back then.
Speaker 1: Bro, because why wouldn't you publish that at that time?
Speaker 1: Because that'd be the biggest discrediting facts to the movement.
Speaker 1: So I also would caution people that believing that the
Speaker 1: truth is gonna come from the people whose job is
Speaker 1: to spread misinformation, it's dangerous facts. So it's one of
Speaker 1: those things is yes, we've been waiting for him and
Speaker 1: we feel like they're a holy girl because they never
Speaker 1: gave it to us. That don't mean that they're going
Speaker 1: to give us the truth.
Speaker 2: Fact. I mean, I think for me it's like will
Speaker 2: it is everybody involved dead? Because I feel like that's probably.
Speaker 1: Probably say that was them, not USU CIA.
Speaker 2: It's a new FBI, right, and.
Speaker 1: These are just the organizations that we know about. I
Speaker 1: think what you're really worried about it is the ones
Speaker 1: we don't know about.
Speaker 2: It's crazy to think, like the Men and like the
Speaker 2: Men in black movies back in the day, like there
Speaker 2: has to be a version of that. With these UFO
Speaker 2: hearings that they had, it's like there's a version of
Speaker 2: the Men. But it's like so many movies that we've
Speaker 2: been fed throughout the years. I feel like it's just
Speaker 2: desensitizing us to one actually is possible in coming?
Speaker 1: What is a space force? Even doing you get a
Speaker 1: whole space force? We don't hear about the activities at all.
Speaker 2: Think about that movie was it a year and a
Speaker 2: half or so ago that was on Netflix that Obama's
Speaker 2: the executive producers of, Oh, yeah, you know what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about?
Speaker 1: What was it called?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But literally, I'm like, this is the most realistic
Speaker 2: right there.
Speaker 1: And you see the you see he put in the
Speaker 1: anti eline propaganda. They ain't like that, right. That movie
Speaker 1: was a that was a war. That movie he's showing that, Yo,
Speaker 1: these teslas go take over. You gotta understand they use
Speaker 1: these tools of propaganda and they push us against each other.
Speaker 1: I mean, the movie was all about the citizens being
Speaker 1: the enemy. Yes, it wasn't about it outside. It was
Speaker 1: about you know.
Speaker 2: About your labor, the division, right, who is America's biggest enemy?
Speaker 1: It's each other? Each other empires are destroyed from within.
Speaker 1: So the prediction is that you know, America implos from within.
Speaker 1: It's too strong for an enemy outside that destroys the world.
Speaker 1: But on the inside, if you go look at like
Speaker 1: the Russian defector Yuri, I forget his last name, but
Speaker 1: he talked about the demoralization and how it takes like
Speaker 1: twenty five years and demoralized, and that means that if
Speaker 1: they started twenty five plus years ago, we would be
Speaker 1: the children of a demoralized generation. They're not doing it now,
Speaker 1: It's already been done. And I think that's what we
Speaker 1: need to realize, is that when you look at that
Speaker 1: younger generation Gen Z, now we're going to Generation Beta
Speaker 1: and outfront all that stuff, But these are the children
Speaker 1: of generations of syops being ran on. They parents in society,
Speaker 1: So blaming them for things is scapegoing right. The next generation,
Speaker 1: for what you've done and what you've become. We go.
Speaker 1: We often scapego. We go look at and we be
Speaker 1: talking about let's say hip hop, right, and we talk
Speaker 1: about the emasculation of black men, and then they go point.
Speaker 1: We would see Donald Glover or Pharrell come outside with
Speaker 1: the anti pants on and stuffy wild.
Speaker 2: I didn't know if it was really or not.
Speaker 1: That's why Kanye West had the crop it, you know
Speaker 1: what I man, he was like, I like the jacket,
Speaker 1: but he cropped the rest of the But we appoint
Speaker 1: to the seventies and be like, but in the seventies
Speaker 1: we dressed like that. Yeah, them niggas was tripping in
Speaker 1: the seventies too, literally tripping. That's when European fashion took over.
Speaker 1: Right then everybody on drugs. Then they were spread into
Speaker 1: pimp movies, you feel me, and then every dude wanted
Speaker 1: to be goldie. He wanted to be a pimp back
Speaker 1: in those days. So they start dressing like that. That
Speaker 1: wasn't our revolutionary time. That wasn't a high prideful time,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's when we was infiltrated
Speaker 1: with these operations the most, because we was coming off
Speaker 1: of Afro centricity and militancy in the sixties. And then
Speaker 1: the seventies is when they start running all these drug
Speaker 1: operations on us, you feel me. And then of course
Speaker 1: you get to the eighties, and by the time they
Speaker 1: got us there, then that's when we become hyper masculine,
Speaker 1: and then we start destroying each other. So you can't
Speaker 1: point to the seventies as a time when we had
Speaker 1: this renaissance. No, that's when we was the most compromised.
Speaker 2: Do you think that there were you talked about siops?
Speaker 2: Do you think there has been any sort of purposeful
Speaker 2: siops sparked through hip hop?
Speaker 1: Hell love them? Hey, I love hip hop. I sent
Speaker 1: you my sound track album. I'm working on one called
Speaker 1: Save Yourself. But essentially, one could look at hip hop
Speaker 1: as a saiyah, our saio been theirs, right, it's our Siah.
Speaker 1: When I talked about you know the gods infiltrading hip hop?
Speaker 1: You know peace God, then it became what's something nigga?
Speaker 1: You feel me? That was a switch of language, right,
Speaker 1: what does that do? We talked, we would use the
Speaker 1: words brother Moore and rap lyrics, right, and then we
Speaker 1: started using the word nigga more. And each time you
Speaker 1: see the shifts in vocabulary, right, and the words that
Speaker 1: are more frequent that we listening to. What does that do?
Speaker 1: Hip hop is a media that controls the way we
Speaker 1: feel and see about ourselves and each other. Right, so,
Speaker 1: if hip hop is one of the most influential genres
Speaker 1: in the world, it is the most Yeah you think
Speaker 1: you go, let that go without having controlling it. They
Speaker 1: never done that with any media genre ever. When the
Speaker 1: TV came on, the government used it. When hip hop
Speaker 1: came on, the government used it. How do we feel prisons?
Speaker 1: How do we get black people to have an attitude
Speaker 1: that demoralizes them? How do we get them to talk
Speaker 1: about sister from Lauren Hill eras to saying bitch and
Speaker 1: go on to Sexy Red. You can't tell me hip
Speaker 1: hop not a sayat when we go from Lauren Hill
Speaker 1: to Sexy Red, that's the SIoT. How do we get
Speaker 1: a generation from going from Lauren Hills to say and
Speaker 1: I ain't saying Lauryn Hill It was perfect, right, but
Speaker 1: it was a much more morality and ethics and values
Speaker 1: that we were spreading into music. The music today is
Speaker 1: death music. It's fast consumption, it's fast death. How do
Speaker 1: we just like we turned into crackheads and music.
Speaker 2: Well, we've also desensitized the consumer based so much to like,
Speaker 2: you know, I talk about this all the time, like
Speaker 2: the YouTube documentary culture when it comes to like what's
Speaker 2: going on in Jacksonville or Chicago. It's turned like a
Speaker 2: lot of these guys whose music isn't really good into
Speaker 2: like just main characters and people's TV shows on YouTube.
Speaker 2: So when they die, Julio Fulio gets killed in Florida,
Speaker 2: you know, and you know, young and Ace replies the
Speaker 2: next day with a freestyle, and then you go through
Speaker 2: these comments and it's just like it's just so ugly
Speaker 2: because it's like these are like real human beings we're
Speaker 2: talking about. It's not even so much about the music
Speaker 2: as much as it's about like but with a lot
Speaker 2: of guys obviously about the drama, about the characters in
Speaker 2: this like you know, this fucking show that's playing out
Speaker 2: in front of everybody's eyes on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the music is weaponized completely now from
Speaker 1: when you know there was a switch to ata waits right,
Speaker 1: everything has been weaponized to get us to think fast,
Speaker 1: to get our heart rate moving faster, to have us
Speaker 1: having an anxiety towards each other. When we were listening
Speaker 1: to crunk music back in the day, and everybody was
Speaker 1: getting turned up. You feel me? What always happened? A fight, breakout,
Speaker 1: somebody getting shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, certain songs I remember with DJ and you couldn't
Speaker 2: play like what was the little scrappy record No Problem?
Speaker 1: Couldn't play No Problem. As soon as that come on,
Speaker 1: you feel me. I'm like, you ain't got numbers. I
Speaker 1: remember the promoter like, yo, why you play that ship?
Speaker 1: You started three fights with the fun right, And the
Speaker 1: reality of it is is it's not even just that
Speaker 1: the artists themselves was intentional about it, because even when
Speaker 1: you go to like ying, ain't I love that music?
Speaker 1: Yani ain't twins wanted to add more conscious music. At first. Well,
Speaker 1: what the the labels and the coach of gravitated towards
Speaker 1: was that low music, you feel me, low frequency. So
Speaker 1: they said, let's just if this is the product. Instead
Speaker 1: of me trying to make a five star meal, let
Speaker 1: me make McDonald's and sell a million of these burgers. Right,
Speaker 1: And so a lot of rappers right now are just
Speaker 1: like McDonald's.
Speaker 2: I feel like hip hop is more McDonald's in it.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing, is, Like I said earlier,
Speaker 2: It's like back in the day we had like the
Speaker 2: commons and the most deafs, and like even like a
Speaker 2: guy like a Mortal Technique who was headlining huge festivals
Speaker 2: and Mortal Technique. I learned so much about the world from.
Speaker 1: More ye see again. You learn world views and perspectives.
Speaker 1: You learned about different regions and things.
Speaker 2: And I don't even know who that is in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five. It's not too many, you know, Like I
Speaker 2: think Killer Mike is a great resource.
Speaker 1: But shut out to Killer Mike, shout out to Shout
Speaker 1: out to Larrussell.
Speaker 2: L Russell was amazing.
Speaker 1: By out tell my brother Simba by you feel me,
Speaker 1: Jack Heller, that's my little brother. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's some really dope artists.
Speaker 2: No, there's amazing hipp brother.
Speaker 1: Aj McQueen shout out to him. You feel me. It's
Speaker 1: some dope people. And I think what needs to shift is,
Speaker 1: like we got to realize the power is in the independent.
Speaker 1: You feel me? And how do you how do you
Speaker 1: intentionally look at those voices and saying, because I know
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be represented, I'm going to push them right.
Speaker 1: And I mean that as people like us that have
Speaker 1: media for sure.
Speaker 2: You know all those people you just mentioned are my
Speaker 2: friends and been on the show many times.
Speaker 1: And everybody needs to do that that believes in that
Speaker 1: at least sure, right, and when you do it and
Speaker 1: they hot, everybody else gonna jump on it anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you feel me.
Speaker 2: I see it all the time. I tell these guys,
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, like like, hey, how do I get
Speaker 2: on so and social? I'm like, man, you just keep
Speaker 2: going because these fools only gonna tap in with you, beficial.
Speaker 1: You just got to keep moving around. It's a it's
Speaker 1: a fight, it's a war. It's like who gets a
Speaker 1: control the frequency? You know what I'm saying and I
Speaker 1: ain't saying like you got to make all conscious music.
Speaker 1: You feel me, be conscious when you make your music.
Speaker 2: Or be conscious when you're when you speak.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent because you get a platform, you can
Speaker 1: represent something higher. If you're on an interview, Look at
Speaker 1: ain'ty of Larry Jones. He's like he's the most player.
Speaker 1: How do you even put him in a category? He's
Speaker 1: his own thing. But he's very like barrier playing fly ship.
Speaker 1: But if you listen to him speak he's he's pushing organic.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 2: He's pushing exercise.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. That's that's the example of putting the
Speaker 1: candy in the medicine jar. You feel me. You get
Speaker 1: individuals like him, and you realize, like, when you get
Speaker 1: close the lifestyle that he pushing is really a healthy lifestyle.
Speaker 1: You feel me. But how do you do it and
Speaker 1: stay cool? You feel me.
Speaker 2: He's kind of mastered that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll you know, been seeing him forever growing
Speaker 1: up in the Bay. You feel me. I think he
Speaker 1: has a really good blueprint. I agree. How do you
Speaker 1: make music that is still I think super cultural in
Speaker 1: the way where it's cold as hell. It's player, but
Speaker 1: it is becoming a trojan horse because when you get
Speaker 1: close up you realize, like, oh, he actually pushing something
Speaker 1: positive independence, even somebody likes Sauce Walker. Sauce Walker, he
Speaker 1: goes through that h town music. You feel me. You
Speaker 1: go put it in a certain way, but he gonna
Speaker 1: always throw some candy in the medicine sure, and then
Speaker 1: when he speaks, you go here. And then when you
Speaker 1: see him doing an interview, you're like, oh shit, and
Speaker 1: who's that influencing the most? His constituency, the people that
Speaker 1: listen to him, the people that normally they might not
Speaker 1: get it from those nineteen keys, but when they heard
Speaker 1: saut throw the sauce on it, you know what, I think, bros, Right,
Speaker 1: And I think rappers got to be stop being afraid
Speaker 1: of allowing like your audience to see that side of you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think that's a lot of they feel like
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose the audience. But I think you're been
Speaker 1: exposed to a lot well.
Speaker 2: Also, a lot of artists, like quite frankly, don't have
Speaker 2: the mind that Saucewalker has or the mind you know.
Speaker 2: But it's like the ones that do, the ones that do,
Speaker 2: it's like you're almost like full of shit, low key
Speaker 2: on a large scale. Like every time you're on camera,
Speaker 2: you do a podcast, you do an interview, you don't really.
Speaker 1: Well, they think they gotta be this persona. It's like
Speaker 1: this old school You've seen an interview with Richie rich
Speaker 1: and Tupac. He got on another vest and I feel
Speaker 1: like so many people took that interview as this is
Speaker 1: the persona I need to be in interviews really not
Speaker 1: paying attention to him, smoking, trying to figure out when
Speaker 1: this shit is over with. Yeah, you feel me?
Speaker 2: And I was like, don't even come.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they throwing a persona like that's that's not you,
Speaker 1: Like you're telling me as a man, you can have
Speaker 1: a conversation with another man.
Speaker 2: So I had a a artist. I had a famous
Speaker 2: moment on the pot. I'm not gonna say artist name.
Speaker 2: People can put it together all they one. But so
Speaker 2: this this guy's label. I'm friends with one of the
Speaker 2: girls who runs runs the label, and she was like, Yo,
Speaker 2: so and so is really really wanting to go on
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan. He's like in the politics, he's in the aliens,
Speaker 2: He's in all this crazy shit. And I was like him,
Speaker 2: like him, Yeah, So he comes on my show, popped
Speaker 2: the perk right before the interview started, was an hour late.
Speaker 2: I mean just was like the absolute worst person ever.
Speaker 2: Was not trying to have a discussion whatsoever. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to engage him and yeah, and we ended up having
Speaker 2: this big famous moment. He leaves and uh, I shit
Speaker 2: you not. Like a month ago, I get the same
Speaker 2: call from the label saying, hey, I know y'all's interview
Speaker 2: didn't go that great, but he really do you have
Speaker 2: any ends on Joe Rogan, and I'm like.
Speaker 1: Who the fuck do I look like? That's why That's why.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I also like I don't like, I'm not
Speaker 2: is this guy capable? Like like you know, like if
Speaker 2: you knew this dude, like I like his music a lot,
Speaker 2: but it's like, if you just knew him surface level,
Speaker 2: based on like how he presents himself on camera, you'd
Speaker 2: be like, there's no way, like this guy even has
Speaker 2: that sort of but apparently he does, you know. And
Speaker 2: it's like at the end of the day, it's like,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: That's the that's the thing like we look at I
Speaker 1: think this cultural persona that we have when we represent
Speaker 1: ourselves in front of the coach and our people, that
Speaker 1: it got to be like this low level version of ourselves.
Speaker 1: This is who we need to be to play this character.
Speaker 1: But then when you yourself, when you go on a
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan and say if you will or high level conversations,
Speaker 1: it allows you to demonstrate a different side because you know,
Speaker 1: you speaking in front of a different audience, and what
Speaker 1: you got to demonstrate and realize it's a global audience always, right,
Speaker 1: there's no borders on the podcast, right, so you always
Speaker 1: had that opportunity to gain a new fan base. If
Speaker 1: they hear something new from you that they like, for
Speaker 1: sure you're speaking on a different subject. I had acept
Speaker 1: Ferg on the show, and so many people was like, bro.
Speaker 2: This new album was super.
Speaker 1: Sided Ace before so hell of people was coming. I'm
Speaker 1: about to go watch his album. I mean listen to
Speaker 1: his album, yeah, and this new album he was super vulnerable. Right.
Speaker 2: It different.
Speaker 1: But if you don't, if you don't get the curation,
Speaker 1: because I think this is what a lot of artists
Speaker 1: can't do. They can't curate that side of themselves to
Speaker 1: make space for it for they fan base, right, And
Speaker 1: some people they switch up so much on their fan
Speaker 1: base they leave them behind. You have to take them
Speaker 1: on a journey with you, right. So I look at
Speaker 1: a lot of them are just not trained, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. They're not pr training, not brand training
Speaker 1: on how to market. They don't understand these things. They
Speaker 1: think in this's binary well on this one on hip hop, shit,
Speaker 1: i don't act like an ignorant nigga on this one,
Speaker 1: I'm acting a little more intelligent. Things of that nature.
Speaker 2: Or they're like chasing like be yourself on all of
Speaker 2: them in the same way that platforms can farm clip
Speaker 2: or clip farm. Rather, the artists will do that too.
Speaker 2: They know what they're doing, they're trying to.
Speaker 1: But they be creating cheap moments that at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, you become that moment, right, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And then people forget you for anything
Speaker 1: else because they got so much information they processing. They
Speaker 1: can only remember you from the moment that stood out,
Speaker 1: and it's not even the music most right time. And
Speaker 1: then if your music not connected to the moment you created,
Speaker 1: how is that gonna create a funnel for me to
Speaker 1: listen to your music, because there's no mood if I
Speaker 1: think of you, think about any artists, right, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think of somebody, But let's just any artists for example,
Speaker 1: that create a moment in time like the one you
Speaker 1: had with the person you're talking about. Right. If the
Speaker 1: music is connected to that type of activity when they
Speaker 1: think about the person, that's cool. But if they make
Speaker 1: any music outside of that, then they got a disconnection.
Speaker 1: Now they don't have ability to grow. So now you
Speaker 1: make some music, but that's not how I feel about you, right,
Speaker 1: So now I don't want to listen to you. Talk
Speaker 1: about nothing else. I only want you to be stuck
Speaker 1: in this one little pigeonhole. When I want to feel
Speaker 1: like that, I will go to you. But when the
Speaker 1: world shifts and people don't feel like that no more,
Speaker 1: now you don't have a platform. So everybody should be
Speaker 1: making a platform robust enough to where they have the
Speaker 1: ability to shift in the audience will follow them along
Speaker 1: through it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think too, it's like unfortunate, man, Like
Speaker 2: there's not really any like real dope, big homies that
Speaker 2: a lot of these rappers have. Man, And you know,
Speaker 2: even if you think about.
Speaker 1: Like, well they chasing relevance too, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2: But even if you think about like like we got
Speaker 2: to go to Utah and hang out with Young Boy
Speaker 2: for a day, and like I was, like, dude, this
Speaker 2: guy was the biggest per form an artist on Atlantic
Speaker 2: Records for like, I mean, this guy's a prolific artist
Speaker 2: in terms of like the numbers he's put up, right,
Speaker 2: and even just the influence on kids he has. Right,
Speaker 2: But you could just tell like that dude, like whears
Speaker 2: so much of that and like where like I cannot
Speaker 2: imagine like anybody involved with Atlantic Records like try to
Speaker 2: step in and be like just try to help them
Speaker 2: on like a human basis, as opposed to like, hey,
Speaker 2: you have another album to turn in. Hey, by the way,
Speaker 2: if you go to jail, it's probably helpful as long
Speaker 2: as you don't go way too long. It's a little
Speaker 2: helpful because it builds this allure. And now we get
Speaker 2: the free young Boy campaign. Items being happened with Wayne
Speaker 2: back in the day, you know, when Waingne got locked up,
Speaker 2: it's like they don't give a fuck, and then what
Speaker 2: happens is you know, you might you know, you know,
Speaker 2: I think Young Boys are a good dude.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: We spent some time with him and he was super cool.
Speaker 2: But like, at the end of the day, like you
Speaker 2: can't be who he he is and deal with you know,
Speaker 2: the addiction and the family. He's got a lot of
Speaker 2: kids and all the trauma that he's dealt with over
Speaker 2: the years and not be like fucking affected by it
Speaker 2: and not wear it. And it's like, who's there, who's
Speaker 2: there to you know, there's nobody there to like help
Speaker 2: him do that for real?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the label not gonna care you're a
Speaker 1: product to the label is just business like.
Speaker 2: Now the NFL has CT protocol. They had to you know,
Speaker 2: it's like, where's that for hip hop? Where's that for artists?
Speaker 2: You know, like it's just that doesn't exist.
Speaker 1: That that goes to your managers and the people around you.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. You're a quote unquote big homes.
Speaker 1: Wanted us to come up there. We couldn't make it happen.
Speaker 1: But that was me seeing them having foresight to saying,
Speaker 1: this thing is about to go to left. How do
Speaker 1: we get somebody that possibly some of these rappers of
Speaker 1: people could listen to right? And that's the tough part.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of people we're supposed to have on
Speaker 1: a platform. A lot of times they either I think
Speaker 1: they're afraid to have a conversation sometimes sure, And for me,
Speaker 1: I just have a conversation with you, Like I don't
Speaker 1: whatever were gonna talk about. It's easy for me to
Speaker 1: make a high level but it's gonna be something beneficial
Speaker 1: to where you gain a new audience.
Speaker 2: That was my whole thing with him was like just
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go there and I'm not gonna treat him
Speaker 2: like an alien. Yeah, because I feel like everybody who
Speaker 2: would go talk to him like treat him like a
Speaker 2: fucking alien, like let's just shoot the shit, and.
Speaker 1: Like, well you need to also, some people need somebody
Speaker 1: to say some shit you don't want to hear. Like
Speaker 1: I met with Kodak Black, and I remember it was
Speaker 1: at Jalen's birthday party and.
Speaker 2: How recently this was a few months ago. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: he probably, yeah.
Speaker 1: And when I first met up with him, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, it was all love and respect. Of course,
Speaker 1: the whole time he was just like bro I followed.
Speaker 1: He was calling his homie to show him like we
Speaker 1: was just talking about always listening to you. And at
Speaker 1: the time, I felt like when he was on stage performing,
Speaker 1: he wasn't in his right mind and it was hard
Speaker 1: to watch and I'm like, man, I don't feel right
Speaker 1: just watching the performance happen, right, And then later on
Speaker 1: something happened to him, and then we kind of treated
Speaker 1: this like entertainment. Yes, so that's why to pull him
Speaker 1: to a side and you know, get his ear real
Speaker 1: quick to speak to him. And I feel like we
Speaker 1: probably not having enough of those kind of moments. You
Speaker 1: feel me, like you can't treat somebody's downfall as entertainment.
Speaker 1: You feel me otherwise I look at it as you
Speaker 1: almost contributing to it.
Speaker 2: I just turned on a nightclub in Scottsdale and my
Speaker 2: boy had reached out, who I guess is working with
Speaker 2: Kodak down. He's like, yo, man, Kodak's will be a phoenix,
Speaker 2: you know, let's book him at the club. And I
Speaker 2: was like, bro, I I'm not trying to pay for this,
Speaker 2: Like he's obviously not doing well, Like I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to bring him to a club and lead him alcohol,
Speaker 2: and like, you know, he's Kodak Black. But it's like
Speaker 2: and the same person was like, nah, bro, you know,
Speaker 2: Kodak's on Kodak He's good. You know. I'm like, nah,
Speaker 2: get it. But to me, it's like they shouldn't. I
Speaker 2: feel like nobody should be making money off of him
Speaker 2: right now, as opposed.
Speaker 1: To try extremely talented, he's an alien. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like watching and some people don't like this a knowledge
Speaker 1: you watching DMX, you know what I'm saying. It's extremely talented,
Speaker 1: but I just don't like the way he poisoning himself.
Speaker 1: And I feel like he got a very high level
Speaker 1: of consciousness and awareness just knowing the type of things
Speaker 1: he'd be tapped into, but that environment is stronger than nature.
Speaker 2: What's sad too, is when you're someone who's that famous,
Speaker 2: that influential, and have that much money, no matter what happens,
Speaker 2: you will always find a group to enable you. Oh honey,
Speaker 2: because you could have a group of great people around
Speaker 2: you that tell you what you need to hear and
Speaker 2: try to hold you accountable. It doesn't matter. You're gonna
Speaker 2: move over to these people who ain't tripping because they're
Speaker 2: just gonna hear a quickly look off you and then
Speaker 2: they're depending on you.
Speaker 1: So they don't know how to pull you to aside
Speaker 1: because they're afraid that you go cut them off. Yes,
Speaker 1: so they're enabling is also their dependency, and it's unfortunate
Speaker 1: because it becomes a cycle that has a downfall and
Speaker 1: then they're gonna have to cut you off eventually. Anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So you would rather be the person that says something
Speaker 1: right before it happened, so at least when that cycle
Speaker 1: comes to an end, they remember you for being the
Speaker 1: only person that was telling them right. I'm usually that
Speaker 1: person in People Live. I'm gonna tell you what's real.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna like it, but I grew up with
Speaker 1: six brothers, and you know, we speak to each other
Speaker 1: as men, like it or not. And so what ended
Speaker 1: up happening is is you might dislike me for the
Speaker 1: moment when when you finally got some time and goddamn
Speaker 1: listen and you hit that bottom, ees gonna come back,
Speaker 1: and like, you know what, I apologize you was right, right,
Speaker 1: And so I'd rather be that person that forewarned you
Speaker 1: and let you be mad at me while you're going
Speaker 1: through it and we can several our ties, our connection,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, because I just can't stay in your
Speaker 1: radius and let you disrespect yourself and disrespectful to me
Speaker 1: to not goddamn tell you the right thing.
Speaker 2: That's real. Man. Well listen, I think we need more
Speaker 2: voices like yours for people who don't who aren't following
Speaker 2: you on YouTube. Twitter.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tap in.
Speaker 2: You gotta tap in man for you said you're working
Speaker 2: on an album.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I consider it a soundtrack to the movement. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, I got in rapping when I was younger.
Speaker 1: We used to my older brother at me battle rapping
Speaker 1: in the streets in Saint Louis back in the day.
Speaker 1: Just told me go out there battle rapping. We'll just
Speaker 1: be going back and forth, and I developed a new
Speaker 1: act for freestyling. You feel me. I've always been a
Speaker 1: speaker of my whole life and just been developing my
Speaker 1: voice to speakers, you feel me in successful towards speaking.
Speaker 1: I never really had rap dreams. It was actually his
Speaker 1: more his dreams than his younger brother that can rap
Speaker 1: in things of that nature for me of something that
Speaker 1: came easy, So I never thought of it as a thing,
Speaker 1: But recently I just find I find piece in it. Man.
Speaker 1: I find it's almost therapy just going into a studio,
Speaker 1: you feel me, and coming out with a song, and
Speaker 1: now I can listen to myself and vibe to it
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of lot of rappers just
Speaker 1: be weird. Though I don't want their thoughts in my head,
Speaker 1: and I'd rather put a soundtrack to my own movement.
Speaker 1: You feel me. Sometimes people make good music and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: this is what I would have said. This is how
Speaker 1: I feel now trying to develop my own skill set
Speaker 1: to where I can put that soundtrack behind it. So
Speaker 1: I look at it almost like a reverse of like Tupac. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Tupac started off with music got more intense
Speaker 1: thought leadership in media, and I start off with the
Speaker 1: thought leadership in the media, and we add the music
Speaker 1: as a component to the soundtrack. So it's like building
Speaker 1: out a whole world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have so much. Obviously, you know you're an author,
Speaker 2: you got the YouTube is fire like, like I said,
Speaker 2: some of the best conversations you could find online you have.
Speaker 2: And then just on the financial literacy front, your way.
Speaker 2: You know, you're you're huge in the crypto space, which
Speaker 2: I think is you know, so many people just have
Speaker 2: such a surface level understanding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it'scate yourself. Man, you know, you ain't
Speaker 1: got to go through me at all. The space is
Speaker 1: wide open. But I would say what's happening right now
Speaker 1: is people are finding their teacher that can teach them
Speaker 1: in a way that relates.
Speaker 2: And the other thing, too, is like people are always
Speaker 2: thinking with crypto it's too late. It's not too late
Speaker 2: because it's like, oh, hit a hundred thousand, Damn, I
Speaker 2: should have got it when it was sixty. But when
Speaker 2: it was sixty you were like, damn, I should have
Speaker 2: got any when it was twenty.
Speaker 1: And it's like it's a reverse mindset that's that's a
Speaker 1: poverty mindset. It keeps you poor. There's always opportunities in
Speaker 1: the market, right. Most of the people invest investing in
Speaker 1: what they think will be valuable in the future. If
Speaker 1: AI is valuable tech growth sector right now, then people
Speaker 1: are investing in that. Right. If you're going to award
Speaker 1: the people investing into goddamn wards, yeah, rate theon and
Speaker 1: whatever other ones. Manufacturers that's gonna benefit from it, right.
Speaker 1: So a lot of the information that we have daily
Speaker 1: as we pay attention to things, we don't have a
Speaker 1: reason to hold that information. But if it was, let
Speaker 1: me create a thesis on what I think happened in
Speaker 1: the world, and then let me go research companies that's
Speaker 1: go benefit from it. You will be surprised how much
Speaker 1: knowledge you have that's actually beneficial. How many times you
Speaker 1: see something I knew that was gonna happen, Well, what
Speaker 1: if you connected that to an investment? That's note.
Speaker 2: That's why I always tell people is like, especially when
Speaker 2: we think of the stock market, it's not I mean,
Speaker 2: if you do stock options, that's a skill set. That's
Speaker 2: a skills that is a skill set, and that is
Speaker 2: if you're not good at it, it is gambling it's
Speaker 2: a version of gambling.
Speaker 1: Options allow you to buy time right. So what you're
Speaker 1: saying is, do you think Microsoft, with all of his
Speaker 1: resources and contracts and companies that they own, the way
Speaker 1: the world is going, they supposed to possibly be buying TikTok?
Speaker 1: Do you think that will increase the stock in the future.
Speaker 1: So you buy an option a year ahead of time,
Speaker 1: they say, I want to buy this stock for eighty dollars, right,
Speaker 1: So now by time that contracts expired and that stock
Speaker 1: is worth two hundred dollars, you able to buy it
Speaker 1: for one hundred hundred. So these are these stock options.
Speaker 1: They look like gambling. If you don't have a.
Speaker 2: Strike, you don't understand because there is like the higher
Speaker 2: riskier stock options which also have the higher you know,
Speaker 2: but then it.
Speaker 1: Just goes to your risk analysis to be like maybe
Speaker 1: you only put five percent of your money right.
Speaker 2: And then on the stock side, I always tell people,
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, like the stock market unless you're day trading,
Speaker 2: it's like yo, like you're not losing unless you sell.
Speaker 1: So the stock market, I think, especially right now, is
Speaker 1: pretty easy.
Speaker 2: Like the video that Monday, I have a ton in
Speaker 2: the video. So Monday when it went down to like
Speaker 2: one another ten granded. I was like, oh, this is
Speaker 2: it's on sale when it was ninety nine dollars last week.
Speaker 1: More. See that's the reverse mindset is when somebody see
Speaker 1: it going up, that's when they want to buy. Right.
Speaker 1: So the money is made want the market.
Speaker 2: Because I don't plan on selling. I ain't selling the video.
Speaker 1: You want to increase your position and then you can
Speaker 1: always borrow against it so you never have to sell
Speaker 1: it if you want to. The goal is how many
Speaker 1: assets cannot own stocks, crypto, gold, real estate, right, whatever
Speaker 1: it is, own assets and you're not buying crypto. You're
Speaker 1: exchanging one currency from another. Right if you believe that bitcoin,
Speaker 1: And this is my whole thing, it's why I teach
Speaker 1: people just play off the highs. So let's say if
Speaker 1: crypto is down, do you and this is a simple analogy,
Speaker 1: It's like if you think that the theyalm reaches all
Speaker 1: time high again, right, it's one thousand dollars from its
Speaker 1: all time high. That mean if you buy it right
Speaker 1: now and it goes up one thousand dollars, you benefit
Speaker 1: from that. The question is when you ask yourself that question,
Speaker 1: if it's a yes, then buy it. If it's a no,
Speaker 1: then don't.
Speaker 2: I also, like like you said, like even in the
Speaker 2: crypto space, not to get into too much of the weeds,
Speaker 2: but you can actually see what the like wallets do.
Speaker 1: And you know, then you can just study the cycles,
Speaker 1: the cycle. There's a bitcoin cycle, right every four years.
Speaker 1: It reacts to a cycle. It has lows, it has highs,
Speaker 1: it retracts, then it goes back.
Speaker 2: And I think it hit eighty nine thousands right before Christmas,
Speaker 2: because like in eighty nine ninety thousand exceup to like
Speaker 2: one on one. Now I think it was right when
Speaker 2: he reaches.
Speaker 1: The high one o seven, one on eight.
Speaker 2: Then it goes back down. It's like, you know, something's
Speaker 2: got to happen for to break that resistance point. We'll see.
Speaker 1: But even the easiest thing is just a dollar cost
Speaker 1: average for the average person, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like, are you what is your strategy?
Speaker 2: You're trying to hit a quick lick, because that's the
Speaker 2: other problem.
Speaker 1: Well, see, that's that's what I like to teach. So
Speaker 1: like when we do crypto, we do tokenomics, right, how
Speaker 1: do you actually study the token economics that's basically going
Speaker 1: in the behind the scenes and read the white paper,
Speaker 1: who is behind it, who's in the project? Right? I
Speaker 1: give strategies to how people can analyze something for themselves
Speaker 1: or they don't need nobody else. Right, So now they
Speaker 1: can look at every crypto and know which one is
Speaker 1: going to be a rug pull, which one is risky,
Speaker 1: which one is a long term back, how to go
Speaker 1: study trends, who to follow on Twitter?
Speaker 2: Even to the plot like Solano, right, it's like, well,
Speaker 2: all of these it feels like a lot of these
Speaker 2: big popular mean coins they run on that network.
Speaker 1: Because it's cheaper and faster and easier and Ethereum blockchain
Speaker 1: it should be higher, but they haven't been able to
Speaker 1: decrease fees yet. So the owner of it is Vitalic Bureau,
Speaker 1: and he just put out a paper said that he
Speaker 1: gonna make your more robust, He's gonna improve It hasn't
Speaker 1: happened yet. So a lot of people are in the
Speaker 1: belief that Ethereum, especially after the mean coin cycle ends,
Speaker 1: is going to be the one that gets all of
Speaker 1: that track. And that was the NFT platform everybody, and
Speaker 1: those were expensive because people were NFTs and then the
Speaker 1: fees were so high that you would lose hell of
Speaker 1: money in the fees trying to buy it project. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then I'm like, I'm looking at that world liberty,
Speaker 2: that Trump, Yeah, Trump's behind it. I'm like, they're buying out.
Speaker 2: If you have an insane amount of ethereum, they must.
Speaker 1: Know selling people the ethereum is gonna hit. I promise
Speaker 1: you it's gonna hit.
Speaker 2: They must.
Speaker 1: This is our financial advice. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I gotta say that. But go study. So here's
Speaker 1: another thing. It's like, if you looks at there's if
Speaker 1: AI projects win, RWA projects win, do you have to
Speaker 1: ask yourself what chain this is the homework for you
Speaker 1: all to do? What crypto would benefit the most that
Speaker 1: they have to run those projects on. Right when something
Speaker 1: becomes popular, look at where all of the attention and
Speaker 1: energy is going to go through. What's the utility? Right now?
Speaker 1: Means it? Yes? Hot, Right, you can turn ten dollars
Speaker 1: into a million dollars if you of the one percent
Speaker 1: that get that goddamn lucky right. Or you have a
Speaker 1: super strategy to where you know how to create a
Speaker 1: buying this sniper project fast, or you inside and insider circle.
Speaker 1: If that's not you, right, then your risk of tolerance
Speaker 1: is way too high for you to just be jumping
Speaker 1: into every mean coin thinking you go win. Now. Another
Speaker 1: thing is people missing this element or just create your
Speaker 1: own I'm a big fan. Like when NFT cycle was
Speaker 1: going through, I was telling people to create the damn project.
Speaker 1: You don't have to just go consume, consume, consume. There's
Speaker 1: nothing stopping you from creating your own blockchain.
Speaker 2: Probu I mean, I mean, and then you know, even like.
Speaker 1: Some of the artists who got to like Toy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tory Pioneer, why nobody take that same strategy and will
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 2: Snoop tried. I mean, Snoop tried. Snoop changed his life off.
Speaker 1: A grew man. If a Kendrick and a Drake wanted
Speaker 1: to drop a project on the blockchain and all that
Speaker 1: money come direct to them, Yeah, it's like people are lazy,
Speaker 1: that's all it is. And we don't want to I mean,
Speaker 1: we don't actually need the institutions the way we think
Speaker 1: we do. No, we're just so used to.
Speaker 2: It being And it's also the advanced culture of the
Speaker 2: music industry. It's like I could just turn this album
Speaker 2: in and I could get a million dollars real quick.
Speaker 1: Or you could, but that's lazy again, it could no,
Speaker 1: because then I see I've seen an nobody, I mean
Speaker 1: a goddamn nobody literally on Twitter drop a mean coin
Speaker 1: and go up to fifty million dollars, right, But no utility,
Speaker 1: no promise, is nothing that means fifty million dollars worth
Speaker 1: of money went into that. Now, you can't tell me
Speaker 1: as an artist being one of the most influential in
Speaker 1: the world, right, if you got the ability to drop
Speaker 1: an album, this album is represented right by your attention
Speaker 1: and your influence, right, And this is the utility everybody
Speaker 1: who buy into my goddamn coin, there's actual mutility. Too
Speaker 1: much money you think you're gonna make from that, You
Speaker 1: will make more money than any musician in the history
Speaker 1: of time of one album, of one goddamn song.
Speaker 2: We walk of a song that's wrong. By the coin,
Speaker 2: you get the song.
Speaker 1: And then you can decide to add any other value.
Speaker 2: And if Kendrick does that, everyone's buying the coin.
Speaker 1: Well, look at how Kanye West became a billionaire. Again.
Speaker 1: And I always said Kanye West is a billing a
Speaker 1: regardless of Adidas, because he brought the value.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, so, but What.
Speaker 1: Did he do though, so Kanye West, he dropped them.
Speaker 1: He was complaining, he went through all of the things
Speaker 1: he went through there, we've seen him go crazy.
Speaker 2: Never want somebody get their bank account taken.
Speaker 1: Away from But what did he really do right in
Speaker 1: a long term, is he set it up to where
Speaker 1: he can get all of that traffic coming to him.
Speaker 1: Now if he can capture that traffic, and he went
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. He paid with twenty million dollars
Speaker 1: right and then it costs him zero dollars to run
Speaker 1: the actual commercial. And he did it, and then people
Speaker 1: bought all of that. What did he get from that data?
Speaker 1: He got all that data. What does that allow him
Speaker 1: to do? Take all of those Yeezy fans and retarget
Speaker 1: then whenever he wants to. Then he complained to it
Speaker 1: and said that goddamn Adidas is stealing all of my traffic.
Speaker 1: Anytime I tell people to go to Yeasy, they reverting
Speaker 1: it to Adidas. Adida stopped doing it right then right
Speaker 1: after that, Now he's able to get all of that traffic.
Speaker 1: Now he like evaluate this, he's evaluating his ability to
Speaker 1: go direct to consumer and now that's worth for a billion, He's.
Speaker 2: Worth two point three three billion or so right now.
Speaker 1: Point two take that same thing on the blockchain, right,
Speaker 1: you create a while that, you create a dial which
Speaker 1: you can do in a day. You get you some devs.
Speaker 1: You take that same attention. Right, you drop a tweet
Speaker 1: on Twitter. You don't need no email list. Everybody who
Speaker 1: sees this is part of your email. If Kanye dropped
Speaker 1: a Yeasy coin, it would melt. I mean, I mean, dude,
Speaker 1: we're talking, come on now. So when this is what
Speaker 1: I evaluate, I look at your each influencer as an economy.
Speaker 1: If you can move the GDP, right, if you can
Speaker 1: influence the money of a million people, how much is
Speaker 1: that worth? That's worth billions? Then you have someone that
Speaker 1: can that's a country. Right. Then you have some people
Speaker 1: maybe can only influence one hundred thousand. That's a state.
Speaker 1: Some people that can influence ten thousand to fifty thousand,
Speaker 1: that's a city. Then you got small town influences. If
Speaker 1: each one sees themselves as an economy, because that's their value,
Speaker 1: is their ability to influence attention and currency. Right, So,
Speaker 1: then and if an advertiser pays them based on their
Speaker 1: ability to influence money and attention and that's how much
Speaker 1: your work. But you never got that evaluation, and you're
Speaker 1: not putting an infrastructure behind that blockchain. Give you that
Speaker 1: instant infrastructure to make that money and not have to
Speaker 1: go to nobody else.
Speaker 2: It's funny to think that the Hawk Tubur girl had
Speaker 2: the influence she had.
Speaker 1: Well, the Hot Tour Girl played off the fact that
Speaker 1: she is a meme.
Speaker 2: She was a meme celebrity, meme celebrity dropping a meme coin.
Speaker 1: So it made sense because it was cheap attention. And
Speaker 1: I thought anybody that got mad at her, you only
Speaker 1: followed her because she was a meme.
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure she ate like she probably should
Speaker 2: have off that. I think the developers probably was.
Speaker 1: Developers and I'm sure inside snipers that got her a Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's funny because I uh, maybe five six months ago,
Speaker 2: I was telling the homies, I'm like, bro, we got
Speaker 2: to I don't know how to do a mean coin,
Speaker 2: but we gotta do a Baron coin. I was like,
Speaker 2: this is like and then even even like two.
Speaker 1: Months ago, you could make a mean coin instantly, I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, and there's no Barren coin. And my
Speaker 1: homie popped up and went off and I was like, full,
Speaker 1: we should have did the barren coin. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now obviously there's like you know, however you feel about
Speaker 2: like hitting a quick look like that off of people
Speaker 2: who buy into that shit. I don't know, but it's
Speaker 2: there's there's opportunities.
Speaker 1: Well, and here's the thing, there's no reason you can't
Speaker 1: make it long term and actually do something impactful with
Speaker 1: the money. I think that the biggest problem that I
Speaker 1: see with the mean coin industry is that where does
Speaker 1: the money go? Yeah, like once it's gone, right, you
Speaker 1: got these little degeneras just sitting in a computer and
Speaker 1: you feel me watching porn, making goddamn millions of dollars
Speaker 1: and do nothing effective to society. I would love to
Speaker 1: see somebody actually win off of it, that would do
Speaker 1: something beneficial to the world. We're doing all of these
Speaker 1: benefit concepts for fire victims while there's hundreds of millions
Speaker 1: of dollars going into coins, Right, who is this new
Speaker 1: class of money? The truth of it is is behind
Speaker 1: these coins is these vcs. Right, there's hundreds of millions
Speaker 1: of dollars in these firms and they're propping the coins up.
Speaker 1: So what they do is they're set up a bot.
Speaker 1: The bot would then make it look like organic activity
Speaker 1: through different way. Yeah, you'll see these Twitter right pull
Speaker 1: on the for you. Yeah, they got bots and I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the boss that connected to a wallet that's
Speaker 1: buying it. Yeah, to make it look like it's going up.
Speaker 1: So now when you buying, you actually liquidity for them.
Speaker 1: There's a site called pump fund that everybody utilizes. You
Speaker 1: connect the fantom wilet, you can create a coin under
Speaker 1: five minutes. Then there's a site called fund your Meme.
Speaker 1: Fund your Meme is a little more sophisticated in the
Speaker 1: sense that you can control the token economics on the
Speaker 1: back end. Right. So essentially, if you got an idea
Speaker 1: and instead of funding a project on I forgot the
Speaker 1: other site that they got. But the fund your meme
Speaker 1: is saying that, listen, you want to do the barn coin.
Speaker 1: Your homies they put up money and say you initially
Speaker 1: want to raise fifty thousand for it. So each person
Speaker 1: in your group is putting a little money in and
Speaker 1: they represent the liquidity, the money that builds it up. Right,
Speaker 1: And so then when your coin drop is already at
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars market cap already at one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars market cap. So now you as an investor that's
Speaker 1: looking for coins, you see it and be like, oh snap,
Speaker 1: this coin going up. So now you start buying in.
Speaker 1: That becomes a trickle effect. You go to your telegram,
Speaker 1: your Twitter, your Instagram, you sharing it the same way
Speaker 1: a post goes viral. Is down there, the same way
Speaker 1: a coin go viral. You feel me, and then that
Speaker 1: attention gets converted into currency.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting matter of cashing out before right before
Speaker 2: the you know, the inevitable, and.
Speaker 1: So you can do it that way, or you can
Speaker 1: take a mean coin and you can connect it to
Speaker 1: a dial. So let's say it goes up and we
Speaker 1: taking five percent of this and putting into a treasury.
Speaker 1: So regardless of what happens, we go lock a certain
Speaker 1: amount of money in and then I'll let y'all vote
Speaker 1: on what y'all want to do with it. Right, you
Speaker 1: give them a couple of options. Well, listen, I want
Speaker 1: to do this real estate project. We got fifty million
Speaker 1: in here, y'all want to build it. This is the
Speaker 1: way my mind works when I look at these things,
Speaker 1: like we're gonna go plain about shit, we go boycott Target. Okay,
Speaker 1: but what's a better target. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Save your goddamn self. Let's go utilize this blockchain to
Speaker 1: build infrastructure projects to where we can take the attention
Speaker 1: on things and we can get them instantly funded. It
Speaker 1: only makes sense to me. I've been teaching this for
Speaker 1: years now, is just to focus on fuck it, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna build this shit it. We don't like to
Speaker 1: listen to stuff when it's early.
Speaker 2: How do we stop letting.
Speaker 1: Letting?
Speaker 2: Uh? Just I feel like it's so easy for you know,
Speaker 2: I would say this last political cycle, what happened again?
Speaker 2: I felt like there was like a point in time
Speaker 2: where everybody was kind of I wouldn't necessarily say not divided,
Speaker 2: but kind of like more like, you know, kind of
Speaker 2: moving a little bit in the same direction in terms
Speaker 2: of like not liking the way things were going. And
Speaker 2: then as soon as the flip was switched and Kamala
Speaker 2: got put in, and it just turned into this whole
Speaker 2: like I saw pundits and personalities I respect just flip
Speaker 2: like right away and like fall in line with whatever
Speaker 2: narrative each side would want you to fall in line.
Speaker 1: With it, because it was always fake. If you if
Speaker 1: you're getting paid to push something that's fake. If you're
Speaker 1: already aligned with it and you happen to get paid,
Speaker 1: that's different. But let's be honest. Most rappers who took
Speaker 1: money for Kamala, they don't leave in Kamala. They didn't
Speaker 1: care about nothing she was talking about. But it was
Speaker 1: a good check. And that what happens on both sides.
Speaker 1: They're giving good checks, so guess what you go get
Speaker 1: in line. But then what you realize is that they're
Speaker 1: more incentivized for Donald Trump to be in office because
Speaker 1: they go benefit because a lot of them got some money, right,
Speaker 1: so when he get in office, they're like, well, shit,
Speaker 1: Kamala gave me money, but Trump will help me make money.
Speaker 1: You feel me, So again it becomes just capitalism. I
Speaker 1: think what we have to do right, And this is
Speaker 1: why I don't believe in all of this superficial unity,
Speaker 1: because it's fake. If you got to force people to
Speaker 1: do something, then it's not real. You find people that's
Speaker 1: already aligne and I think that those who think that
Speaker 1: their line got to stop being afraid to actually work
Speaker 1: together and build shit behind the scenes. It's not that
Speaker 1: goddamn hard bro A reason I think like. The way
Speaker 1: I think is because growing up in Oakland, I've seen
Speaker 1: a man do stuff like this, Right, I didn't grow
Speaker 1: up looking at the Civil Rights era. I grew up
Speaker 1: looking at black Muslims that have money and power. So
Speaker 1: as a child, I'm looking at we riding down Oakland
Speaker 1: in an all black motor K ten cars deep. You
Speaker 1: feel me hopping out in every hood, drilling, showing militant discipline.
Speaker 1: And then this guy owns schools and restaurants and security firms.
Speaker 1: So on my mind, this is what black people can do.
Speaker 1: Most people ain't grow up with that. You feel me
Speaker 1: be also grew up in the hoods of Saint Louis
Speaker 1: and in different hoods in Oakland, so I get a
Speaker 1: different nuance. Also have corporate jobs, also hustled in the streets.
Speaker 1: I've been locked up. I didn't live vicarious different hats
Speaker 1: and experience.
Speaker 2: You have real perspective, which a lot of people don't.
Speaker 1: So it's also why I think so goddamned differently. And
Speaker 1: the mainstream thought process is a loser's mindset, and so
Speaker 1: for me it's like, no, everything we should be thinking
Speaker 1: about doing right now behind the scenes is how do
Speaker 1: we organize and execute. Right? How do we buy assets collectively? Right?
Speaker 1: Everybody don't need to be involved, but those who you
Speaker 1: findly have common insurance values, resources, and network or have
Speaker 1: your conversations behind the scenes include me in them. If
Speaker 1: it makes sense, you feel me in. Let's build.
Speaker 2: Have you been able to build a Snoop? It all?
Speaker 1: Me and Snoop met a couple of times. I'm waiting
Speaker 1: on Snoop to come on the platform.
Speaker 2: I guess it was a little it was. I hated
Speaker 2: to see like some of the collective like outrage about
Speaker 2: Snoop performing at David sax event. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: David Saxes his boy like Snoop is one of the
Speaker 2: most crypto forward thinking artists there is. And I felt
Speaker 2: like the narrative of it being like an official inauguration
Speaker 2: event on CNN, like you would see on CNN Snoop
Speaker 2: Doggs performing at the inauguration as opposed to the crypto
Speaker 2: ball in honor of the first crypto president who wasn't
Speaker 2: even there.
Speaker 1: I look at it like this, You cannot hold anybody
Speaker 1: accountable if there's no collective agreement on what the coach is,
Speaker 1: what our values are, what our agenda is Otherwise, it's
Speaker 1: just momentary outrage without any enforceable consequences, right, get mad
Speaker 1: as new for a moment and deal with what does
Speaker 1: it matter? We think that our emotional outrage means something, right,
Speaker 1: We we like there's a I've had my issues with
Speaker 1: Isaac Hayes as a human being, as a person, things
Speaker 1: that he's saying he do. But I would be hypocritical
Speaker 1: to go on Instagram and push Boycotten companies, right, and
Speaker 1: then not acknowledge that there's a black man with his
Speaker 1: own app fan base. Yeah, so, and that's somebody I
Speaker 1: don't even agree with, and I don't mind speaking about
Speaker 1: their platform because it still aligns with my values. Do yourself,
Speaker 1: save yourself. So I think that a lot of the
Speaker 1: shit that we be talking about be fake because Mark
Speaker 1: Zuckerberg is doing DEI. Twitter is with the DEI or
Speaker 1: against the DEI, but we still utilize their platforms.
Speaker 2: Right, it's selective outrages.
Speaker 1: The selective outrage is not powerful, right, You gotta stand
Speaker 1: on something. To stand on that one hundred person, I.
Speaker 2: Would you just like to have seen equal outrage towards
Speaker 2: a guy like like like we talked about and that
Speaker 2: moment with Trump, like y'all really were like melting Snooped
Speaker 2: all now, And it's like, yo, like.
Speaker 1: Because that goes against the narrative that they have that
Speaker 1: black men are the issue. They want to paint all
Speaker 1: black men that's the issue. Right. They look at Barack
Speaker 1: Obama as the outlier. They can't take the hero down.
Speaker 1: He represents that civil rights demo.
Speaker 2: I even think it's even worse to have taken money
Speaker 2: to peddle a candidate that you don't believe in.
Speaker 1: Now, Nelly was wilding. Oh yeah, Nelly was wild. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm from from the Litis. He was wildly. He talking
Speaker 1: about his constitutional duty. I'm a patriot and now, hey, brother,
Speaker 1: you wild. You're saying too much. We wouldn't even feel
Speaker 1: bad for because she caught. She she caught. Nobody was
Speaker 1: even asking. Nobody really was t You didn't even need
Speaker 1: to say nothing. Yeah, we we were talking about Snoop.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what we was paying attention to. Nelly just
Speaker 1: jumped out the ways like I'm a patriot. Yeah, brother, relaxed.
Speaker 1: You're taking them country albums too far, you know, I said.
Speaker 1: But the thing was Snoop. The reason that Snoop got
Speaker 1: the backlash, and I don't think it's a bad thing
Speaker 1: to get backlash for things you do in the public,
Speaker 1: because you know, then you just rewind. My thing is this,
Speaker 1: but he did. I ain't gonna lie. I like Snoop,
Speaker 1: I love Snoop. That's Snoop. But he did go hard
Speaker 1: on Kanye. He went hard on Kanye. He did he
Speaker 1: called him a jigga bu tap dancing.
Speaker 2: My thing is, it's not the bad it's not the
Speaker 2: backlash that I don't like. It's the the inaccurate narrative
Speaker 2: that that just removes the context and the full details
Speaker 2: and nuance of the situation.
Speaker 1: Well, you're not gonna ever get critical thinking, which if
Speaker 1: you want to control media, which you because you can
Speaker 1: reach out to reach out to keV, reach out to Keys,
Speaker 1: reach out to Joe Budden, reach out to all of
Speaker 1: us that's in the media space. Give us the real story.
Speaker 1: Let us run that. W rappers want to get real
Speaker 1: narratives out there based on what really happened. NBA players
Speaker 1: will reach out to the goddamn independent media and give
Speaker 1: them the scoop. Otherwise, you deserve to be misrepresented in
Speaker 1: the media. You know what I mean? How else we
Speaker 1: supposed to get the true story. It's supposed to be misrepresented.
Speaker 1: That's legacy media going on, whatever their agenda is. If
Speaker 1: we want to cut through that, not only that, goddamn
Speaker 1: help fund those media sources so they can grow and
Speaker 1: become bigger. So whenever you want to control narratives, that's
Speaker 1: what you gotta conglomerate. Well that's what happened.
Speaker 2: I talked to Snoop's team and they were like, yo,
Speaker 2: like this is David Saxon, Yeah, David Sachs is that
Speaker 2: dear friend of Snoop? Yeah, Like they're like boys, yeah
Speaker 2: and Snoop. I mean you saw the video.
Speaker 1: But how is that narrative post behind his head?
Speaker 2: There's no mag on stage, but.
Speaker 1: The public goes by motion. So I think we got
Speaker 1: to be strategic. We know how things are going to
Speaker 1: be perceived. As you said it earlier, everybody is a journalist. Now,
Speaker 1: everybody got their media platforms, but there's no journalistic integrity. Correct.
Speaker 1: We don't associate whether this is a hit piece, whether
Speaker 1: this is scandalous piece that's pushed out there, whether this
Speaker 1: is sensationalist journalism right, or whether this is somebody actually
Speaker 1: did their research and they had four to five sources
Speaker 1: before they put that out there. We're just consuming things.
Speaker 1: So whatever emotional thing that we most likely want to
Speaker 1: believe and that fees the emotion of the day will win.
Speaker 1: You have to respond to that by setting up something
Speaker 1: on the back end that can be counteracting that. When
Speaker 1: you want to push out information, intel, information is it's
Speaker 1: militant right. Media is a military operation. The CIA pays
Speaker 1: Hollywood so much money to keep control of the narratives.
Speaker 1: So when you understand that, like Project Operation mocking Bird
Speaker 1: and different things of that nature. Going back in time,
Speaker 1: the most successful black leaders have their own media. Frederick Douglas,
Speaker 1: Marcus Garvey, Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X said up the media.
Speaker 1: So I'm at this point in time, you feel me
Speaker 1: like number one, the rappers, the NBA players, different leaders.
Speaker 1: We need to be having these conversations together so we
Speaker 1: can share this knowledge and strategies with each other. I
Speaker 1: had this conversation with Meek. I say, Meek, you you
Speaker 1: don't want the narratives to hit a certain way, then
Speaker 1: you need to fund your own power podcast, fund your
Speaker 1: own media and even got to be here. YEA, yeah
Speaker 1: for sure, because so like you gonna be here tours.
Speaker 1: Hes gonna be misunderstood through tweets. You know some of
Speaker 1: the greatest articulators of tours. You got to got your.
Speaker 2: Day podcast right now. It would crack.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure it would. Look he can come on up.
Speaker 1: He invited to the high level, come sit down and
Speaker 1: have a high level conversation. I at this point with
Speaker 1: the coach, and we gotta stop acting like we ain't
Speaker 1: got no power. Save yourself. This is how you say yourself.
Speaker 2: I think we just champion people like I mean, like
Speaker 2: you mentioned NBA players Jaylen Brown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my brother. I just had his shoes on
Speaker 1: the other day. We had a good conversation and conference.
Speaker 1: You know, you feel me, media that Jaylen Brown to
Speaker 1: the coature. This dude has hit every metric we wanted
Speaker 1: an NBA player to hit. You feel me. He's like
Speaker 1: the j C. Hustle of NBA. Sure he started off
Speaker 1: that way. The difference between him and Kyrie and Kyrie
Speaker 1: my brother. I flew out to Kyrie a house when
Speaker 1: he was going through all of that stuff to console him.
Speaker 1: But the difference between is Jalen came in with that mindset,
Speaker 1: Kyrie adopted it. Later, and he was learning in front
Speaker 1: of the public, and when you realize when you learn
Speaker 1: it from the public is shocking to you, so you
Speaker 1: want to share what you're learning, Like, y'all don't notice
Speaker 1: Jalen been that way, So he gets flacked from the NBA.
Speaker 1: So they don't want to put him into position because
Speaker 1: they're afraid of a black man with consciousness and resources.
Speaker 1: But he said, f Nike, we've been telling athletes to
Speaker 1: do that. He built his own shoe. We should respect that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That man is intelligent to
Speaker 1: where he's giving speeches at Harvard and giving breakdown of
Speaker 1: knowledge and say, I'm gonna take one of the biggest
Speaker 1: contracts ever awarded the NBA history and guess what you're talking.
Speaker 1: We're gonna build Black Wall Street, right, Like, how do
Speaker 1: we not look at an NBA player like that and
Speaker 1: everybody exalt that so that the next generation wants to
Speaker 1: do that same thing when they get money and influence
Speaker 1: and power. You feel me like this, A lot of
Speaker 1: times we miss our own marks when it comes to
Speaker 1: us having our media platforms. We can send out sensationalists,
Speaker 1: you know, journalism and hit pieces and rumors about NBA
Speaker 1: players only want to be with white girls and waste
Speaker 1: their money. But get somebody that do it right. We
Speaker 1: don't exalt them, we don't treat them correctly, and we
Speaker 1: know legacy media I ain't gonna do it right because.
Speaker 2: They don't even I mean, the NBA is always gonna
Speaker 2: They're just not gonna ever Like Jalen Brown is, like
Speaker 2: where he's at in terms of like he's an All Star.
Speaker 2: I mean he's an amazing basketball player, yeah, but but
Speaker 2: there the NBA is never gonna push him as the face.
Speaker 1: In the league. They're not Jason He's supposed to. But
Speaker 1: the people for stat to ship even Kyrie and shout
Speaker 1: out to to j He you know, he from the
Speaker 1: he from from the Loop. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm connecting with him. I'll rock with him.
Speaker 2: No, no, but but you get what I'm saying. It's it's
Speaker 2: very like the NBA is like they you know, they
Speaker 2: they know who they they know who they want to
Speaker 2: put as when when you land off Star Weekend, there's
Speaker 2: gonna be certain faces at the airport.
Speaker 1: Jalen went to the Ice QB League. They ain't like that.
Speaker 1: When you go to the Big Three and show support.
Speaker 1: You feel me, NBA don't want no competition, that's that
Speaker 1: you want to see none of that. So when when
Speaker 1: you look at the people, they want to support the least,
Speaker 1: we should support the most because it's most likely in
Speaker 1: our interests out the Q two you feel me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out to Ice Q for sure. For sure. So yeah, man,
Speaker 1: people like Jaalen Brown, I think he has an excellent
Speaker 1: representation of what we want to see in the culture.
Speaker 1: We should champion that more and we should force and
Speaker 1: everybody should be on cold about that. Like I met
Speaker 1: up with Shaques one time, and I remember when he
Speaker 1: was dogging Kyrie, irving you feel me, And I had
Speaker 1: to tell him, like, Bro, you know that that ain't cold.
Speaker 1: You feel me. You know that you got his ability
Speaker 1: to just call this man you feel me in cipher
Speaker 1: with him if you believe he's moving a right or
Speaker 1: wrong way right. But you know how hard it takes
Speaker 1: for a black man to get in position, and you
Speaker 1: know how they utilize us against each other. If you
Speaker 1: are black and media and you have power and influence
Speaker 1: and position, you should never use it to disrespect your
Speaker 1: own right. There should never be Stephen A. Smith disrespecting
Speaker 1: the brand of Jaylen Brown. We should never become tools
Speaker 1: for white supremacy against each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think that there's a difference between like, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, being a commentator on sports, yeah, and then
Speaker 2: like some of the more like sharp attacks towards people's
Speaker 2: character that you that you saw with Kyrie or that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Kyrie a good dude, man. You know, he
Speaker 1: connected to his ancestral ties. You feel me. He want
Speaker 1: to push out that bro. You can understand his own shoe.
Speaker 2: Like think about the Kyrie thing though, Nike, about Nike,
Speaker 2: he was the best selling basketball show outside of Lebron. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they were like nah, yeah, because.
Speaker 1: They want that power. Everybody. Look, you got yeezy, you
Speaker 1: got Kyrie's, you got the Jaylen Brown shoes.
Speaker 2: Man, And yeah, and I love that Kyrie's new shoes
Speaker 2: are fire.
Speaker 1: Everybody should be walking around wearing those shoes, right, I
Speaker 1: just got mine and yesterday everybody, Because what that represents
Speaker 1: the type of time we are the most powerful thing
Speaker 1: in the world. This is why it's so dangerous. Like
Speaker 1: I help pioneer this financial literacy movement for our generation
Speaker 1: to push that out there, and people don't understand how
Speaker 1: revolutionary that is is because if I educate the consumer
Speaker 1: base to shift their habits, right, then that's somebody's family
Speaker 1: that you to our ignorance and benefit from it. Now
Speaker 1: just bankrupted them. Right. If I'm teaching you about real
Speaker 1: estate to own your own, then you don't want that
Speaker 1: landlord anymore. So his family business off of you being
Speaker 1: ignorant and not financially literate, it disappears. So that's why
Speaker 1: we don't want to credit certain voices, right. It's a
Speaker 1: reason why there's no reason why I shouldn't have been
Speaker 1: awarded or some of my peers shouldn't have been awarded
Speaker 1: at every black organization. But they afraid what their sponsors
Speaker 1: are gonna think when you start empowering these young black men, right,
Speaker 1: So instead they would rather push a gay man, a woman,
Speaker 1: trans man, anything but this strong black men archetype. But
Speaker 1: we've been pushing, and we go keep pushing, So y'all
Speaker 1: can't You cannot then dog us down and talk shit
Speaker 1: about what you want us to do if you're also
Speaker 1: not the one that celebrates us when we do the
Speaker 1: right thing. So we at this war internally with the
Speaker 1: culture and saying that listen, I don't want a unity
Speaker 1: with the NAACP if they don't know how to find
Speaker 1: the voices that are different and radical and pushing the
Speaker 1: right movements. There's no reason that you know, every year
Speaker 1: they don't have a wah Street trap up there winning
Speaker 1: an award. They don't have an Aristotle investment. They got
Speaker 1: the eyl up there, master the investor for the things
Speaker 1: that we've done in the culture to shift it. I mean,
Speaker 1: we went all across the planet and sold out arenas, right,
Speaker 1: but not a mention. So what happens is they usually
Speaker 1: allow one or two to be propped up because they
Speaker 1: feel like this is how they can control that. Then
Speaker 1: you got the ogs that be talking they shit and
Speaker 1: it's like, well, we wouldn't have to do it if
Speaker 1: y'all would have did it.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, and from my perspective, obviously being an outsider,
Speaker 2: if there isn't radical change, then the bag stops for
Speaker 2: the people who are running these places because benefit It's
Speaker 2: almost like the home that's the homeless thing, right that
Speaker 2: we talk about. It's the same shit. There's too many
Speaker 2: people making too much money on the plight and the struggle.
Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent. Listen, advertisers control more culture than
Speaker 1: black leaders. Right when you go look at an award show,
Speaker 1: you go look at all these places, it's the advertisers
Speaker 1: that these people are afraid of. So you have somebody
Speaker 1: that work in a position they might follow in nineteen keys,
Speaker 1: but I wonder what are advertises to go? Think, maybe
Speaker 1: we don't put him there. So then they're not looking
Speaker 1: for who's actually impactful in the category. They're looking for
Speaker 1: who's safe and who's popular, right, or where's the current
Speaker 1: DEI going? Right? So that's what they're pushing. But this
Speaker 1: is why it's not efficient. So you have these vehicles
Speaker 1: to where it And the other thing is like these
Speaker 1: corporations commit these billions of dollars, but they don't actually
Speaker 1: deploy any money. Right when TDJ said that when the
Speaker 1: banks gave him all this money, where did it go?
Speaker 1: What happens is you go to them with ideas about
Speaker 1: where you want to put the money and they say no.
Speaker 1: So they committed over two to three years, but every
Speaker 1: time you come to them with an idea, they say no.
Speaker 1: So there's commitment without deployment. So it's all fake. But
Speaker 1: it gave you the pr We forgot about it. We
Speaker 1: don't know internally how it works. There's no efficiency on
Speaker 1: our culture and it needs to be ripped apart and
Speaker 1: looked at it from the inside and say, Okay, what's
Speaker 1: actually happening and why aren't black people making this progress?
Speaker 1: And what you realize is that the issues that they
Speaker 1: push in the distraction the escape got this right. It's
Speaker 1: the internal right, lack of efficiency, organization, structure right, our
Speaker 1: own understanding of these systems, that's the problem. And then
Speaker 1: these people that sell us out for a dollar. So
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna continue to build how I build,
Speaker 1: but I understand that we are of a limited time.
Speaker 1: There will be a time where it's too late. Right,
Speaker 1: Black people got like one or two years of serious
Speaker 1: asset accumulation, decreasing your spending, increasing your assets, learn to
Speaker 1: become more human, meaning like learning human actual skills, putting
Speaker 1: your head down a goddamn studying you feel me. I
Speaker 1: don't care if it's cool, I don't care if it's easy.
Speaker 1: I don't care. If you don't want to listen, that's
Speaker 1: on you. You ain't got to be one of the
Speaker 1: winners in the future. I'm talking to the people that
Speaker 1: be like man, you know, what keep speaking Tomorrow Soul
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm gonna get on it. You feel me,
Speaker 1: Stop chasing holes and start chasing goals.
Speaker 2: I love that. That's how we end the interview right there. Hey,
Speaker 2: nineteen Keys, come on and stop chasing.
Speaker 1: Hose and I need you to let me know how
Speaker 1: you feel about that album.
Speaker 2: Well I got to I'm gonna listen