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Come on, Bootleg cav 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: podcasts Man, we got a special guest in here, one 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: of my favorite just mines Man nineteen Keys woome pleasure 20 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: to be Yes, Thanks for coming through, man, Yes, sir, 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: long overdue. Yeah, I first got hip to you a 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: few years ago because I'm cool with Mike. Shout to 23 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: the homie Mike. He had a MIKEAE Sheet, he had 24 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: a he's from well he's not from Phoenix, but I 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: knew him as a rapper from Arizona growing up. He 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: used to go by sind Q back in the day. 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: And so I started paying attention to this podcast and 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: you guys were doing the high level conversations on his channel, 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: and I remember watching one of your guys's talks and 30 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: it was just dope. So and then I've seen you 31 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: like BT and stuff, and you know, so I'm glad 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: to finally have you here. 33 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: Man, Man, I appreciate you. Michael Sheet a good dude, Yeah, 34 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: for sure. 35 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: First of all, it's been a wild couple of weeks. 36 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: You know, I look at him like every month is 37 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: a year now. Last year was crazy. 38 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, like you said, January felt like a year. Yeah, 39 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: we got through. I'm like, damn, like this is how 40 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. It kicked off with the I mean, 41 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: obviously the fires were crazy here in LA and obviously 42 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: the election was wild, and it was just a man, 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: I feel like for anybody who's like even like on 44 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: the crypto front, like, it's just been a wild, wild 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. 46 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: Five so far. To me, it's almost a very predictive though, right, 47 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: I already knew twenty twenty five was going to be 48 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: a crazy year regardless of who would have won, right, Right, 49 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: it's just you know with Trumpet office is going to 50 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: be even wilder. Yeah, this is a year to nine, man, 51 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: It's an end to cycles in the beginning of new things. 52 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: And it's also going to be a very conflicting year. Yeah. Right. 53 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: We see fires everywhere with the planes crashing, multiple planes crashing, 54 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: historical things, and I look at symbolism and things. You 55 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: feel me, if we at the end of an empire cycle, 56 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: you feel me, you're going to see higher conflict, You're 57 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: going to see a shifting power, right, because what this 58 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: current administration is trying to do is number one, the 59 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: preservation of power in the complete overhaul. Like they looking 60 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: at it like if we at the end of times, man, 61 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: let me get as much as I possibly can. And 62 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: their goal and what I'm seeing though is they're being 63 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: really good at keeping the people divided. So the people 64 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: scape go to each other and don't look at the 65 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: elites as the problem. 66 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because you know we go from like, 67 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: I guess this shadowy oligarch, Yeah, which has always been 68 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: American politics, where we know there's billionaires like this, but 69 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: we don't really know who they are, right, And then 70 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: now it's like no, now they're sitting at the inauguration 71 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: and they're like, you know, the new Age Tony Starks, 72 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: whether it's Elon or Mark Zuckerbern Sam Altman or whoever 73 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: it is. 74 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: But now the people accept it, right, Like the syab is, 75 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: how do you condition people to a point where they 76 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: accept it right? How do you keep showing them something 77 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: to where it becomes less and less shocking so by 78 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: time you're ready to roll it out, they're already conditioned 79 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, my mind is already expanded to 80 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: accept this idea. So I'm no longer going to revolt 81 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: against you once I see it, Because if you would 82 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: have took this back ten years ago, the argument was 83 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: that whether the government is ran by the elite, whether 84 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: it's ran by a shadow government, whether it's ran by oligarchy, 85 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: And because that idea has been something that's been pushed 86 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: on us and imprinted into us since we were younger 87 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: in high school. Now that we see it, we're like, oh, 88 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: we already. 89 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: Knew that, and now it's like, no, that's what's happening, right. 90 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: But now there's no revolting spirit at all. 91 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's funny because like now like some of 92 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: these figures, like you know, become like somehow like punk 93 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: rock even though they're like quite literally the opposite. 94 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: Does that make sense what I'm saying, Like, I mean, 95 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: look at Mark Zuckerberg and Eli Musk, Right, Mark Zuckerberg 96 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: is a good example. Everybody's looking at him as robotic, 97 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: dead in the eyes, right, And he had a pr 98 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: issue and then they decided to you know, go in 99 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: there and remake his image, right, and so they gave 100 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: him a curly hair, they gave him a gold chain. 101 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: Did the album with T Pain, right? He did you 102 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: the album with T Paint did which I never listened to, 103 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: and on a Plan too, but I remember that. 104 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: Do you remember that? 105 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 106 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: Jude him and T painted an album and then he 107 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: starts doing like jiu jitsu. 108 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: Jiu jitsu and all of this stuff. Man, that's that 109 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: was to number one Ease him in the minds of 110 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: the people, like what can we shape him into so 111 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 1: that they accept what comes from us, because the younger 112 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: generation will start rejecting these things. Right if you look 113 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: classically like an elite, right, and you look like you 114 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: are the problem, then they say, okay, well, how do 115 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: we start to assimilate in this culture where number one 116 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: is much harder to control? So you can't control everything 117 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: on TikTok, which is a reason why they were trying 118 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: to figure out, all right, how do we own that? 119 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny how we watched like over the three 120 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: or the last three or four years, like the pendulum 121 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: swing on the TikTok banning, and it was like it 122 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: kind of had gone away until the Palestine conflict happened, 123 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: and then that was the main kind of vehicle for 124 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: information to get to the kids, right, you know what 125 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: I mean, And then all of a sudden it had 126 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: been Oh now, all of a sudden, a lot of 127 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: people who didn't want it banned before, now it's an 128 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: issue again. And you know, I think a lot of 129 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: people have I think if you're paying attention, like that's 130 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: obviously what happened. 131 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: But you know, well, media is the most powerful medium, 132 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,119 Speaker 1: and it's something that classically been controlled by a small 133 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: group of people. So anytime there's a disruption in that, 134 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: they got to figure out, all right, how do we 135 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: get our power back, because now you're going to put 136 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: a disruption on the timeline of things they want to 137 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: roll out because of the backlow that they gonna get 138 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: from the younger generation or just free media period. So 139 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: you put out a story in instead of everybody talking 140 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: about the story you put out, there's a whole new 141 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: story on how that's bogus. Right, there's a whole new 142 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: story with different details that legacy media didn't push, and 143 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: they like, wait a minute, nobody's believing us right now. 144 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: So that makes it harder for them to roll out 145 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: their agendas, especially talking about global politics. And the sentiment 146 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: is around empathy for the Palestinian people. Right. It used 147 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: to be way easier for them to control that narrative. 148 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: Now they can't, and they can't suppress it and pretend 149 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: it's not happening. Right. The sentiment of the crowd is 150 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: very obvious when you go on TikTok that people are 151 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: empathizing with the Palestinian people and believing that the things 152 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: that are happening with the murdering of children and women 153 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: is just evil. There's no political spin you could put 154 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: on it. So it's interesting to where you even see 155 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: the things that Donald Trump doing to suppress voices against 156 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, Israel, and consider that to be anti Semitism, 157 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: but even his base don't like that. 158 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because I saw today. I don't know 159 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: if you saw this on you might have. You know, 160 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: somebody who I like grew up not really fucking with 161 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: is Tucker Carlson. Yeah, but Tucker Carlson did an interview 162 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: with Piers Morgan today and I was like, am I 163 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: end the upside down world? 164 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: Roere? 165 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, Tucker, I see you, bro, like 166 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: where He's like, I'm sorry, is there? Like we were 167 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: supposed to be fight the idea of being evil And 168 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: if you don't think the killing, the purposeful killing of 169 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: women and children and citizens isn't evil, then what are 170 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: we talking about? 171 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that you're going to see more to happen. 172 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: Even like Cannas Owens like shout out to Candas, Like 173 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: I don't agree with everything Cannis Owns says, but like 174 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: I've definitely had like a hard shift in terms of 175 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: like like damn, like Cannas Owens ain't like as crazy 176 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,119 Speaker 2: like you know, growing up like you know, obviously being 177 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: like hardcore democrat over the years, you know what I'm saying, 178 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: Like you always would just be like, yo, Cannis Owens 179 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: is she's she's the boogeyman, you know, or Tucker like, 180 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: but it's like not everything and I think I think 181 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: over the last eight years, I would kind of say, really, 182 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: since COVID, a lot of shit is in the gray space, man, Like, 183 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: you can't look at everything as black or white. You 184 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: can't take everything from each side and write it off fully. Now. 185 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: The other thing with that is society will try to 186 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: paint you as all of that or all of this 187 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 2: if you don't align with everything each side is trying to. 188 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: To what you're looking at is different agendas though, So 189 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: it's like it's a very interesting breakdown with this. So 190 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: you got a part of the MAGA group and they're 191 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: not all united. People act like they're not. They're very different, 192 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: very divided. There are some people who are completely anti Israel, right, 193 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: most of his basis anti Israel, most of his bas 194 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: is anti Zionists. Right. So when he does things that 195 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: are pro Israel. They don't agree with that, but they 196 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: take that because they want him to help them on 197 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: other fronts, the America first front, which is hypocritical in 198 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: a way. Right, But when you see somebody like Candice On, 199 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: you see somebody like Tucker Carlson, she got what fired 200 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: right by Zionists, So now she start going down this 201 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: rabbit hole. Right, So they talk about being red pilled, 202 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: and now I don't know what this is. Desion is 203 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: pilled if you will, right to where you have these 204 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: people that say, wait a minute, they were pro White, 205 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: they weren't pro Israel. So now there's this difference of 206 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: saying that, wait a minute, that basis looking at it 207 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: from an ethnicity standpoint, then looking at it from a 208 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: Christian saying that we was all together on this maga. 209 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: But it's maga Christian or not, because if it were, 210 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: then that means that we need to move based on 211 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: Christian values. Right. And then you can't stand hypocritically in 212 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: front of a microphone, right in front of your base 213 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: to be pushing pro Christian values and at the same 214 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: time be pro war, right and wanting to kill women 215 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: and children, right, And then stand in front of that happily. 216 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: But you realize is that they might sell Bibles and 217 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: they may use Christianity, but they're using it as a 218 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: vehicle for manipulation because they know that that base wants 219 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: these conservative values pushed. But do the oligarch and the 220 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: megalomaniacs actually care about that? And the answer is no, 221 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: Right these are Elon Musk is a transhumanist. That's against 222 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: Christian values. Right. He wants to go to Mars and 223 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: things of that nature. Do they care about living in 224 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: harmony with the planet Earth or do they care about 225 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: just extraction? And capitalism is against Christian values, right, especially 226 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: dream capitalism in a way that's plagued out in America 227 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: today and right now, I believe that we just at 228 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: this point where capitalism is eroding at the soul of 229 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: human beings. Right. They focusing on wage suppression instead of 230 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: figuring out how do you increase the quality of life 231 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: for people in America? It's just about how much money 232 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: are we making? What does that have to do with 233 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: the fact that most Americans are depressed, overweight, right, have anxiety, 234 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: and they have no vision or dream towards the future 235 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: aspirationally like America is losing its capacity to be an 236 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: inspirational and influential place because we have so much conflict, 237 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: and so you're going to see that base continue to 238 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: divide on their talking points because they have different agendas, 239 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: and now they're starting to criss cross, you feel me, 240 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: especially when it's who's running the government becomes is it 241 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: Elion's agenda? Is it Trump's agenda? Who's behind Trump's agenda? 242 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: I believe Yeah. The first presidency I think was a 243 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: more honest Trump, right, because I think he was surprised 244 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: that he even won, right, But this time number one, 245 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: he had four years to prepare. Then you have all 246 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: these allies that he had to take money and promises for, right, 247 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: So now he has to, you know, fulfill those promises. 248 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: And Trump likes to be like so he's trying to 249 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: fulfill those promises as much as possible, you feel me. 250 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: But then a lot of those promises are contradicting to 251 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: each person that gave him. For the citizens, is it 252 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: for olive gards, is it for the people that's pro 253 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: oil or electric? Right, it's for the people that's pro 254 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: Palestine or pro Israel. Freedom of speech or censorship? I 255 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of conflict within the mega party 256 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: itself that eventually it's gonna cause it to implode, which 257 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: is why you see people like what's the one Indian 258 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: guy that got out of there, like Vek Man. 259 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 2: Like I thought Vivek was, Like I saw footage of 260 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: him like being very kind to people on the college 261 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: campuses who weren't necessarily aligning. 262 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: Played the game. But like what he said, they got 263 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: him there quick because he started talking. He forgot he 264 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: he forgot that they were white. First, we start talking 265 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: to white people like he was better than them, and 266 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: it was like, we rock with you as long as 267 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: you're saying what we want to hear. 268 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: He had that tweet that yeah, yeah, the di visas 269 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: and and uh, you know how America's Yeah, we're raised 270 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: on different values. 271 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: And he reminded people that they not. He reminded white 272 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: people that they're not the top of the food chain 273 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: in America. He said, no, there's agents they're the most 274 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: educated group in America and they have the highest grossing 275 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: household income and part of that is based on how 276 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: they actually live by their family values. Right, And so 277 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: that disruption of that thought process to say that wait 278 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: a minute, we got the highest paying jobs and were 279 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: running these tech sectors. The white people as a look 280 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: at themselves and say, wait a minute, you're saying we 281 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: d e I. Because what he said is well, if 282 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: we get rid of DEI and we operate based on merit, 283 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: then we're still going to get the jobs because we're 284 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: the ones educated in these sectors, right, and we're the 285 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: ones the most qualified. So you don't want to go 286 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: based on merit if we're going toe to toe, And 287 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: that's when they had to look at themselves. They get 288 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: his ass out of here. 289 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny with this di I conversation is like 290 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: you know, my co host James was telling me, He's like, yo, 291 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: if you look at some of the de I numbers, 292 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: it's mostly white women. 293 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, most benefit women. 294 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: But it's become this like like you know the airplane 295 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: crash that happened, Like when the first ding Trump went 296 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: to was it I was stupid. 297 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: It was just it's like, without having any information, you 298 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: just gonna say d. That just shows you how they 299 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: just gonna utilize this. 300 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: It's like red weight to throw yes to incite the base, right, 301 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: And to me, it's like you know, to have like 302 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: a real conversation about like what DEI actually is, who 303 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: it actually benefits, whether or not it's beneficial for the 304 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: you know, workforce as a whole. 305 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: That's like a conversation that, Yeah, that's different, that's different. 306 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: But I feel like, what's what it's turning into is like, well, 307 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: every time something's wrong, somehow you just pulled this, yeah, 308 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: googie man of di I into it. 309 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: We're having two different conversations about d It's the way 310 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: it's weaponized. It's the actual reality of it, right, because 311 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: for me, it gotta be nuanced. The Democrats did go 312 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: far left extreme with things, and they never take any accountability, 313 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: which means that if they don't take accountability, then you're 314 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: gonna look at the base exact the same way, and 315 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna say we're still not rocking with you. Because 316 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: they did go to the trans movie, they did go 317 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: completely LGBT in women's movement and specifically, and they did 318 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: go full War two. They did in full War machine. 319 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: But guess who was left out of that black men? 320 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: Black men was like, okay, well you said DIA, but 321 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: that don't mean black men. Even like you're going to 322 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: see an increase in homosexuality in black media. Before you 323 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: see an increase of Black Muslims on the TV. Why 324 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: is that we contributed the most to Black American history? Right, 325 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: Yet when you talk about diversity, it don't mean diversity 326 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: within Black America, especially when they talk about black men, 327 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: because we're not a monolift, so our voices are not 328 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: even contributed. So if I don't see myself, then I 329 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: got to push myself. I gotta force it. Now, we 330 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: got a problem. Right, Even when they talk about black 331 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: women being the most educated group in America, they was 332 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: talking about that. Actually that's within Black America, so saying 333 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: that she's more educated than black men because we're going 334 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: by the numbers as Asians, whites, Blacks than Mexicans, right, 335 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: and the most educated group would be East Indians. So 336 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: what that really was was just a divisive thing that 337 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: they was utilizing as propaganda to push one up and 338 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: push one down. You not doing enough and we're doing 339 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: more than y'all, right, instead of this thing doesn't of ours. 340 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: Doesn't work unless it's collaborative, unless it's cooperative. So I've 341 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: seen influencers talk about how black men heterosexual black men, 342 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: they say cis gender. I hate that word. First of all, 343 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: that's crazy. You can't. First of all, I don't call 344 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: a straight male cis you know I'm talking about that 345 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: don't make no sense. 346 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: It's almost like I don't know. I'm married to a 347 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: Mexican woman. Most of my friends growing up or you know, 348 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: Mexican American, and I don't know anybody who says LATINX. 349 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody gonna utilize none of those terms. So they 350 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: went too far right. They took this playbook that doesn't 351 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: represent the values of Black America whatsoever. Then you throw 352 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: intersectionality in there, right, and then we've seen that that 353 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: wasn't real. So intersectionality is when the black women and 354 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: the white women and the LGBT right, they are grouped 355 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: together as an oppressed group. And so you would hear 356 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: all of these stats about what they're not getting, and 357 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: I always be like, damn, y'all act like black men 358 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: are getting all the things. Y'all saying, y'all nut right. 359 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: Even when we talk about VC capital at less than 360 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: one percent going to black people, but instead of saying 361 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: that number, you talk about the less than one percent 362 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: going to black women. It's like, why don't we just 363 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: talk about it as a whole, because it's not a 364 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: competition of who getting less between us. We have to 365 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: be a family, and then saying how do we go 366 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: get more? But I look at this timeline of history 367 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: right now is wrong When a lot of people will 368 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: go study African American studies, but you're still only going 369 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: to get an ancestral study, right, that gets pulled out. 370 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: And then at the end of that, you have to 371 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: ask yourself, if I indoctrinate you completely with African American studies, 372 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: what sort of consciousness do you have? Is it a 373 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: do for self? Do you feel victorious or do you 374 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: feel low pressed? Do you feel like an assimilationist? Right? 375 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: Do you feel like an integrationists? When you look at 376 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: American history, why wasn't Marcus Garvey and Elijah Muhammad taught 377 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: as much when they had the most successful platforms ever 378 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: built in American history. We hear about Black Wall Street, 379 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: which was incredible, right, but we never hear about the 380 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: economic network of the nation Islam. Right. When they would 381 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: do their Saviors Day meetings, they would report fifty million 382 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: dollars in earnings and in today's time, that's half a beat, right, 383 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: which would have been worth more than Black Wall Street. 384 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: At the time, he had an economic network all across America. 385 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: But that lesson was never even taught in school, that 386 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: that was the last economic empire that we had, right, 387 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: and it didn't fail per se. His son inherited and 388 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: his son dismantled. So it wasn't something that was just 389 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: destroyed like Black Wall Street. So it doesn't end with 390 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: this tragic story of saying everything we built they gonna destroy. No, 391 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:09,239 Speaker 1: that's not the real. 392 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the narrative of what happened in Tulsa is 393 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 2: like it reads to historic history books better. 394 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: It's a victim mindset that it possesses, and it ends 395 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: with trauma. And anytime you feel like something is with trauma. 396 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: And you don't come from a place of victory like 397 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, somebody, you ask somebody when they front of 398 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: Bay where you frond, the gonna say Oakland. But why 399 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: they say it like that though, It's because you saying, 400 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: I'll come from a place of pride, right, You feel 401 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: me like this is where I'm speaking from. You feel 402 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: me like that moral pride and that pride that you 403 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: have itself makes you feel like you can do anything. 404 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: But a lot of times the way we feel about 405 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: Black history is like, oh, we came from this place 406 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: of oppression, we with slaves, and then slavery is not 407 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: taught right, right, we don't talk about the Seminole wars. 408 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: And when there was free towns in Florida and there 409 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: was men like John Horst that would fall, he fought 410 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: into wards and in multiple battles, he fought for his freedom, 411 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: He fought against the Indians, he fought with the Indians, 412 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: you feel me. And then of course there were the 413 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: blacksimin alls that had babies, the Native Americans and Africans 414 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: having babies. We don't even talk about that lineage and 415 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: timeline enough. That was a complete warrior class where they 416 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: was fighting wars and winning, and we just don't spread 417 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: that information at all, Like we're not a warrior class 418 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: of super resilient people. Because if you got that kind 419 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: of pride growing up, you think of your timeline differently. Right, 420 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: If you come from just the Malcolm and Martin timeline, 421 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: that's conflict and you Malcolm as you Martin, is it 422 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: must because if. 423 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: You're surface level educated on both of them, then their 424 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: their opposites, their polar. 425 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: Opposites, and where do they lead nowhere right right, I'm 426 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: talking about as a whole people because people that even 427 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: people that follow Malcolm don't actually follow him, right. They 428 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: inspired by the story, but they don't follow the teachings. 429 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: A cat to have a whole Malcolm X tattoo a 430 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: white girl on his arm and god damn you feel 431 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: me go East i Port the next day. But he 432 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: was inspired by Malcolm. That's not the power. The power 433 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: is what made him Malcolm X, and that would be 434 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: the teachings that he learned. 435 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say too, Like you know, it's as 436 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: a young white kid who would just go to the 437 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: library all the time. I remember reading the autobiography of 438 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: Malcolm X back in the day and just like realizing like, 439 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: oh this food was like a fucking player for real, 440 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: Like Detroit Red was like like. 441 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: You know Detroit, like Oakland, you feel me, you go 442 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: grow up in it. 443 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, like just such a complex guy who I feel 444 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 2: like somehow, Like you know, it's like you said, man, 445 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: somebody get a whole tattoo of somebody, or wear a 446 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: hoodie or you know, and it's like there's so much. 447 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: We make them symbols without substance, right right, and when 448 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: they just assembol without the meaning and understanding and the 449 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: nuance in the background. Like if you studied the life 450 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: of Malcolm, it should lead you to Elijah Muhammad's teaching. 451 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: What was he studying? How did he become who he was? 452 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: And then I just I was putting together, think it's 453 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: a newsletter that I have, and it was, what is 454 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: the world without Elijah Mohammad? Right, And then you have 455 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: to go into a whole lot of nuance. If Elija 456 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: Mama doesn't exist at all, the whole world changes. Hip 457 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: hop changes. Right. Sure, you don't get Father Alive, you 458 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: don't get you know what I mean, the God body influence. 459 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: Right in hip hop. You don't get the rock kymns, 460 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: in the woo. 461 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: Tangs, you don't get ris of, you don't get chuck 462 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 2: d you don't get so much stuff is then a 463 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 2: student of his was doctor Sebby. 464 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: He was the first to give us the dietary restrictions 465 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: on what to eat in America. So then you get 466 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: a change in that you don't see the seams everywhere, right, 467 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: not saying that he directly told anybody Seamas, but doctor 468 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: Sebbey said, this was the only black leader that I 469 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: seen that was worried about black people's health because he 470 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: was an f y at one point in time. You 471 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: don't get Malcolm X, and you don't get honorable minisulis 472 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: farcime with the million man march right, you don't get 473 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: none of these things. You have to change so much 474 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: about history and black consciousness. And that is just saying 475 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: that when you erase figures like essentially Marcus Garvey from 476 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: truly being understood, right, and you erased you know, noble 477 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: drew our leave from truly being understood and the unoboy 478 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: like Muhammad, and you only give us right as our 479 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: main people that we go to in our minds Martin 480 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: and Malcolm right. But that right, there is a contradiction 481 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: within itself because even Martin Luther King, history wasn't the dream. 482 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: It was who he was after that speech. That's his 483 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: real story. What do you started talking about after that? 484 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: And he was like, man, I realize this we go 485 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: burn in this house if we integrate. I realize it 486 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: gotta be economic upliftment. I realized we got to get 487 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: our own because the America that we're about to integrate 488 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 1: in is so morally bankrupt that it's gonna corrupt us 489 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: if we integrate within it. So it's easy and commercially 490 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: viable for America to spread the dream speech because that's 491 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: easier for them to control. But the radical leaders that 492 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: say do for self. We're gonna build our own economic base. 493 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna have our own airplace and important exports in 494 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: our own banks and supermarkets and schools, and say, look, 495 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: that's cool with the Montgomery bus boycott, but what about 496 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: we just take our money and invest in our own 497 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: buses that we already have, and then we can bust 498 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: our own people instead of trying to sit in front 499 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: of the bus. That is a completely radical difference, and 500 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: I think this generation is more aligned with the radical 501 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: teachers that was talking about economic rights versus just civil rights. 502 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 2: Do you think there was a purposeful effort to make 503 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: Black America dependent on the system percent? That's the Yeah. 504 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: Me and James always talk about it, and he's like, 505 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 2: if you go back and look like the black family 506 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: was strongest prior to one hundred percent, you know, uh, 507 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: the incentivizing black men and not being the home of 508 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: their children. You know, if you were a mom, like 509 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 2: you know dates at there were certain points in times 510 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: where they come to your door and see if the 511 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 2: dad was there, you know, for you to get you know, 512 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: your welfare and all that shit. And so it's like 513 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 2: you said, it's like if you talk about you know, 514 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 2: Black Wall Street, it's like, why hasn't that been replicated 515 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 2: in since then? 516 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: That's the whole point. It has multiple times. There was 517 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: multiple cities, over sixty plus towns and cities. What happened 518 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: is is that story after that time, after that happened, well, 519 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: we had high end belief because you got to remember, right, 520 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: you're talking about a time man late eighteen hundreds, early 521 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds, right in the nineteen twenties, there was this 522 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: belief right that we can do for self coming out 523 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: of at the eighteen sixty five June teenth, right coming 524 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: out of that slavery and so calledly being and mascipated. 525 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: The belief was, all right, we're gonna build our own 526 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: thing now. Like they was afraid because they understood that 527 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: the black working class was going to be a large 528 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: consumer group and have so much power, right, and so 529 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: they seen that because it wasn't just everybody just out 530 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: of rags and slavery. There was a lot of free 531 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: black people already at that time, right that were stooped. 532 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: That were leaders and teachers that had written books and 533 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: have philosophies right like Frederick Douglass. So they understood, wait 534 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: a minute, if we lead them up to their own devices, 535 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: they just gonna build. And they did. They had their 536 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: own political systems, they had their own newspapers in multiple cities. 537 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't just Black Wall Street that was burnt down. 538 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: But what they was really trying to do was kill 539 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: the spirit to believe in doing for self. How do 540 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: we stop to get y'all believing you can create your 541 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: own city, in infrastructure, in economy. That was what it 542 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: was really about. It was a terrorist event destroy the 543 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: spirit right of self sovereignty in this country by Black Americans, 544 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: and they wanted them to spread that terrorst story so 545 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: that you never speak from this victorious place like we 546 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: can do everything ourselves. That's when leaders that started talking 547 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: about integration, right, and how do we work within the system. 548 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: The third Good marshals and things of that nature became 549 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: more popular because the belief was less of let's just 550 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 1: create our own and then it was more of how 551 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: do we work with them? You get the naacps born 552 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: not those movements, but at that time there was always 553 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: different dissenting voices against each other saying no, I think 554 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: the best way for it is we create our own. 555 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: Those voices always went further. That's where you get the 556 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: Marcus Garvey's right saying he was teaching about stock certificates 557 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: and giving people equity inside, you know, his business with 558 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: the Black Star line because he looked at the white 559 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: star line and said, well, and we just have our own, right, 560 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: same thing we do now, that entrepreneurial spirit, that Pan 561 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: African movement that is from Marcus Garvey. The black Star 562 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: and Naghana flag wouldn't be black if it wasn't for him, right, 563 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: that's the Black Star line. So that was the radical 564 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: movement of us looking at it like all right, we 565 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: actually was doing. We also had global alliances too, and 566 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: this is one of interesting things because now there's always 567 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: this fight between FBAs and Africans and things. But at 568 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: that time you had a connection between the Japanese and 569 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: all of the black groups because the Japanese was going 570 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: to get some America, so they started looking at maybe 571 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: they going to be the ones to defeat white supremacy, right, 572 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: we seen them complete the operation defeating the Russians and 573 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: we was like, oh, we ain't never seen nobody with 574 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: the white boys like that. They might be the ones. 575 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: So there was a black Dragon society right that was 576 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: committing assassinations and they was based on pan Asianism. They 577 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: wanted Asia for Asians. Then they connected with the Pan 578 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: Africans want African for Africans, right, and so that became 579 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: this connection of how do we help influence these groups 580 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: in America that want to do for self, that don't 581 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: like white supremacy and we don't like it, even though 582 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: they was really going for imperialism. So what happened was 583 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: after they lost World War two, I Blair world War two, right, 584 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: the Hiroshima bomb dropped on them. That destroyed this belief 585 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: because and this is something that we never talk about, 586 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: what did that bomb do to Black Americans when they 587 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: seen America drop a bomb on Hiroshima and the Japanese 588 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: were starting to seem like an ally for the black community. 589 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 1: Devastated a lot of groups who had connections with the Japanese. 590 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: So you had somebody like Maddie Maud who was from 591 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: offset of Marcus Garvey had over three hundred thousand members. 592 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: She was getting funding from the Japanese and she was 593 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: pushing pro Japanese sentiment right throughout the hoods and throughout 594 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: her organization. But when they lost, she lost a lot 595 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: of those followers, and a lot of them came to 596 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: the Nation Islam because the Nation Islam were still had 597 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: the same message of we're gonna do for self and 598 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: it's the black man that you follow. Nobody else is 599 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: gonna come to save us. We're gonna save ourselves. Right, 600 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: So then you start looking at how history shifted after that, 601 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: and we start moving more towards civil rights and integrational lists, 602 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: and I think it was a spiritual change. It was 603 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: a fear right that pushed us towards that movement. Right. 604 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't our radical leaders that was talking about economics. 605 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: They said, man, how about we just figure out how 606 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: to work with these boys. Because and then I believe 607 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 1: that was also FBI and CIA that was integrating and 608 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: pushing certain leaders and putting money behind certain voices to 609 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: push that propaganda. 610 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: Do you feel like today we talked a little bit 611 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: earlier about just kind of like mainstream media's I guess 612 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: lack of a grip on everybody now. I mean, obviously 613 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: there's still certain demographic that just goes through CNN and 614 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: Fox News and they just eat whatever they're giving. But 615 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: now there's guys like yourself. Now there's like it's a 616 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: good and a bad thing, right. It's almost like I'm 617 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 2: a DJ. So when Serado got introduced to everybody who 618 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,479 Speaker 2: had a laptop could be a DJ. So you did. 619 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: But now it's like, you know, everyone's kind of their 620 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: own if they wanted, if they choose to be an 621 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: independent source of media, they can be right, There's really 622 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: no there's no like a limit to what you could 623 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: do in terms of just posting on TikTok, posting on Instagram, 624 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: et cetera. Are you encouraged by that because now there 625 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: isn't you know? Because I told my wife all the 626 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: time when we're talking about like what the kids are 627 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: learning the school and shit, and I'll see some of 628 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: this shit and I'm like, I mean, it's so much 629 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: like so much more information so readily available to kids 630 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: to where like I feel like people like if I 631 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: was a kid and I was in history class, I'd 632 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: be raising my hand all the time being like what 633 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: about this? 634 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: You know, well, we are in this attention economy, right. 635 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: So here's the dangerous thing about it. This we have 636 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: a wealth of information, but a poverty of attention, true, right, 637 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: So we can't pay attention to anything anymore because there's 638 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: too much information. 639 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 2: You're just swiping. 640 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, if somebody came to you and they just told 641 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: you one hundred things, right, none of that just intake. 642 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: It's too much to try to remember, right, So instead 643 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: we need focus right now. And what I think is 644 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: going to happen is it's going to be a lot 645 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: of voices that get cut out right, and people are 646 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: going to look for more experts to listen to. Right, 647 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: news that actually has value that you can trust during 648 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: this time, Incredible voices that they can go towards. Because 649 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: this is making this is increasing people anxiety. Right, you 650 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: start doom scrolling. You're just looking for more information, but 651 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: you have less execution. So this makes you less willful, right, 652 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: And this is not a good thing that we have 653 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: too much information. You need more focus because there's no 654 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: leader in the history of time that we considered great. 655 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: They became great because they had too much information. No, 656 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: when we look through our history, they had focus. Right, 657 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: I would will let you have less, but have an understanding, 658 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: and understanding is more powerful than knowledge. If everybody had 659 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: an early understanding on bitcoin, right, you had early knowledge, 660 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: early information. 661 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you at surface level like right, But if. 662 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: You understood it, you would have put all chips in 663 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: every single day and you'll be a billionaire, right right, 664 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: And that would have been the only piece of information 665 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: you really would have needed to understand that, and that 666 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: was the most powerful and necessary for you to become 667 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: a billion there be able to change and impact your 668 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: whole reality. So is it? Oh? I learned this one 669 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: on YouTube, this one and this one, and I listen 670 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: to this influence and this thought leader and this one. 671 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: I'd rather you not listen to me and listen to 672 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: the person that has something objectively different. But at least 673 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: you could become an expert at what they're doing versus 674 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: we have a disagreement. So Key said do this, they 675 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: said do this. I don't know what to do. 676 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 2: It's almost like people who read too many self help books, 677 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: if that makes sense, because if you read, like, you know, 678 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: ten financial guides or whatever, like ten how to get richer, 679 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: you know, it's almost like you know, for example, what's 680 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: the old dude, who's who's been. He's got a radio 681 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: show forever, bald glasses, old white cat, and his whole 682 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: entire thought process is carry no debt. Oh you know 683 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 2: who I'm talking about. He's got a radio show all 684 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: over the country and. 685 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: It's on Gordon or you know something like that. 686 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: He's got he's got like a redneck accent kind of Yeah, 687 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: I know you're talking about. I know, just like you 688 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 2: can watch him and he's and he's telling you one thing. 689 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: And you watch, you know, the dude to rot rich 690 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: that poor a. Yeah, use debt to your advantage. And 691 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: there's multiple routes. It's really just mastering your route though, 692 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: right you feel me. It's not that both ones can work. Yeah, 693 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: not neither are wrong, right, but it's like, but which 694 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: one are you go do? I can best become an 695 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: expert as something. Right. If you become an expert, you 696 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: become valuable during this time and you don't have to 697 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: chase money. Money comes to you because you have a value. Right, 698 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: So expertise number one. That means you got to focus 699 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: and get a depth of knowledge. Right now, people have 700 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: a spread of knowledge, right, but they don't have any depth. 701 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: They can't teach it, They can't break it down simply 702 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: to get other people to understand. Now, I look at myself, like, 703 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: all right, what am I expert in? Right? Right? And 704 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: when you become an expert, it is what other people 705 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: consider you to be an expert in. Right, I would 706 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: consider you to be an expert in journalism and podcasts 707 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: right right? In music and media. Essentially, I say. 708 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: The only thing in life I'm an expert at is 709 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 2: probably just my entire life has been hip hop as 710 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: a child, you know. 711 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: But people not an expert on nothing, Like I. 712 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: Could name random bench players from the nineties. You know, 713 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 2: I'm a basketball fanatic. So outside of that, you know, 714 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: we figured out the podcast and radio radio Yeah shit, 715 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 2: I'm in one hundred markets, you know. Radio is what 716 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 2: I'm been doing so I sixteen. 717 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: But look at that. That means that now, when you 718 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: learn new information, you can filter it based on your 719 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 1: expertise and why it's valuable to you for sure. Right, 720 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: So when I was younger, I used to read different 721 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: books because my filter was, all right, how can I 722 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: use this as some sort of value? Though? So if 723 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: I can't utilize it even in a conversation, I might 724 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: learn philosophy just to bring it up. But I was 725 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 1: always giving myself an intent with everything that I was doing, 726 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 1: and I don't think a lot of people have good 727 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: intent right now, So therefore they're not learning for a reason, right, 728 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: They're just learning to learn, right, you feel me? And 729 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: that's where you start structuring it, saying that, no, I 730 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: rather you learn some basic skill sets and master those, 731 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: rather than you just trying to pick up everything in 732 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: the world and you become a master at nothing. 733 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, if you're not a master of anything, 734 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: and what are you. 735 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: Doing, Yeah, become a master at canvall. That's more important 736 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: than you being a jack of all information. But you 737 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: can't do anything with it, you know what I'm saying, Like, 738 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: master the one single app and let that be your 739 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: niche right now, and everybody who wants to come for 740 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: that particular niche will find you. 741 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: You said something on Twitter a couple of weeks ago 742 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 2: that I thought, was it just hit man? You said 743 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 2: being asleep as the new woke, and that I felt 744 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 2: that shit because I feel like the pendulum has like, 745 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 2: like if you think about everything in the last six 746 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 2: seven years, right, it almost feels like it's swung so 747 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 2: far the other way that you're desensitized. Like even with 748 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 2: some of this mass deportation shit, right, it's like there's 749 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 2: a conversation of like, obviously there was an issue at 750 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 2: the border, the shit was popping there. I think that's 751 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 2: a different conversation or yeah, we got to have the 752 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 2: border under control because you know, whether or not you 753 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: think that nation should have borders or not, you know, 754 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 2: there was a mass bucks of human beings coming into 755 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,959 Speaker 2: a place that might not have been ready to receive 756 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 2: them infrastructurally, compared to like, hey, it's turned into like 757 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: it kind of being okay to be like I just 758 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 2: see this like anti immigrant narrative. That's just like everyone's 759 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,479 Speaker 2: kind of desensitized to that. Does that make sense? 760 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: I think we almost insensitize to everything at this point 761 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: in time. A robot could walk down the street and 762 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: we'll go about our day. 763 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 2: Well, it's like the alien stuff. No one seems to 764 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 2: have cared about these alien hearings that happened. 765 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 1: They don't. 766 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 2: It's like it too. 767 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: It's what we consider fast consumption culture, right, and fast 768 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: culture is what I call it as well, where we 769 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: learn about something but then something new happens, and then 770 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: we lose that attention. So it's like if you look 771 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: at AI. If the average person studies deep seek right now, 772 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: right this new competitor or chat GPT and you master it, 773 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: that's a million dollar skill. But instead you keep jumping 774 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: to the next thing. It's more important to master one thing, 775 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: get a depth of knowledge and focus on that and 776 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: then shut out everything else. You don't need to know 777 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: all the news. Why do you need to keep up 778 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: the news? Have you misinformed? Right? Because now you're operating 779 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: off legacy media agenda. Find somebody that you trust as 780 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: a voice and just use them to learn when you 781 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 1: want to keep updates with things. But otherwise, if you're 782 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: just constantly consumed in the news, you're going to be fearful, 783 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: number one, and that fear is not good when you 784 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: want to go do stuff yourself. Right, So now you're like, well, 785 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 1: why should I do anything in the world about the end? 786 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I don't know what's about 787 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: to happen. And now you find yourself research and conspiracies 788 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: that have nothing to do with any of your ghosts. Right, 789 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: if it's not going to empower you, then it's not 790 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: worth anything to you. And I think that that's another 791 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: dangerous thing is that we are losing our ability to 792 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: respond to things. We just react. If you're going to 793 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: look on Instagram and YouTube, its just reaction videos, right, 794 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: But ability need the response is responsibility. So we're lacking 795 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: our ability to respond, which means we're not being strategic 796 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: with anything. We're just reacting. And that's not us actually 797 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: taking in any information and said all right, this is 798 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: the best way that I want to respond now, right, 799 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: this is how we move forward. That's a growth thinking. 800 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: We have a low level thinking right now in the 801 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: world where I have a book that I'm writing and 802 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: it's about how high level conversations can change the world 803 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 1: right and transform your own world. And it starts off 804 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: talking about our neo cortext which is the part of 805 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: a brain that allows us to have these kind of conversations, right, 806 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: our critical thinking, right, our ability to think beyond nuance. 807 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: And that's when we become more aware and conscious. And 808 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: the reality of it is is most people not activating. 809 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: They neo, right, They neo to escape the matrix neo cortex. 810 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: We becoming devolved, not evolved. When you focus on survival 811 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: You're just trying to get through today. Right, when you 812 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: focus on evolution, you want to advance in life. So 813 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: coming from where we come from, coming from Oakland and 814 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: Saint Louis, it's all survival. And I seen a brother, 815 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: I believe it was a brother, Jeff Gordon. He was 816 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: having a conversation on how most of our languages around survival. 817 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: How you doing. I'm just getting through it, you know 818 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What's going ain't nothing to maintaining. You 819 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: feel me, I'm just surviving, just barely getting to it, 820 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: like all of this is just barely. No, it had 821 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: to change to evolution, you know what I mean. I'm 822 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: growing daily, You feel me. I'm going to move. Everything 823 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: is upward. You feel me like we don't even have 824 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: to vocabulary for growth. And when you get around different people, 825 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: what you start doing is you start taking their habits 826 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: and speaking like them. And when you speak like them, 827 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: you move like them, you think like them, You start shifting. 828 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: You feel me. So the game is how do we 829 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: go from survival to evolution? 830 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 2: Right? 831 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: How do we go from thinking local which is localism, 832 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: then you got nationalism national pride of your country, then 833 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: globalism thinking about the world, what's going on in Palestine 834 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: and Congo. Then you got cosmism, right, our connection to 835 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 1: the cosmos, which is what our ancestors all had. All 836 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: our ancestors had an attention and the consciousness connected to 837 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: the cosmos. They all charted the stars, they all moved 838 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: with agriculture and astronomy. Right. There wouldn't been no ancient 839 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: kymm at land of the Blacks unless they understood the 840 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 1: star positions and when the water was going to come 841 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: in and the cycles, and then they was able to 842 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: create more food for their people and grow their population. 843 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: But we don't have that no more. We sold local 844 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 1: and local activity, local problems that keeps us emotionally down 845 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: all day worrying about this bullshit on the news. 846 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 2: Facts. What would you say in your opinion? Was like 847 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 2: the number one reason why, because if you asked me 848 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, I'd assume that, like, you know, the 849 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 2: Trump shit was over with, you. 850 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: Know what I mean, Like, nah, I knew it was 851 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: gonna happen, But I'm just walking said a long time 852 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: ago he gonna be the last president. 853 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 2: I'm just curious, like you know, because you know, I 854 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 2: feel like there's obviously there was. There was a lot 855 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 2: of shit that, you know, I feel like the Democratic 856 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 2: Party talked about earlier, it's not really the party that 857 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 2: you know that at least I remember, you know, I 858 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 2: remember it used to be like, yo, George Bush and 859 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 2: Dick Cheney are bad. But now Liz Cheney's on the 860 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 2: on the campaign, and now they're rolling out Bill Clinton 861 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 2: to yell at Muslims in Michigan and tell them how 862 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 2: they're like, It's like, how of course y'all are going 863 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 2: to lose, you know. 864 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 1: But it was wild and Obama and Clinton I think 865 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: they did more damage to the campaign than anybody. 866 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 2: It was bad. Yeah, it was really bad. Dude. 867 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: Then look the nigga Biden was given. He wearing goddamn 868 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 1: mega hats. 869 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 2: Put the maga hat on his wife, or the red dress. 870 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 2: I think all that shit was on purpose. 871 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: I do too. I think I believe all that this 872 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 1: is a coordinative body at least, because here's the thing. 873 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: If you take history and you erase the word republican 874 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: a Democrat, and you put government, you get a clear 875 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: picture of the world. A problem is that they get 876 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 1: to shift the branding to one side of the each time, 877 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they're not clear differences in value. But 878 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: then there's one entity, and then there's the people. And 879 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: then when the people can see wait a minute. Ever, 880 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,439 Speaker 1: since they had the Bacon Rebellion early hundreds of years ago, 881 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: there was white slaves, I mean white people, poor people, 882 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,760 Speaker 1: and there was black slaves that was going to revote 883 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: against the government. Together. Then the government was like, man, 884 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: we can't have these things working together, So how do 885 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: we set whites apart? So they started spreading the knowledge 886 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: of course that blacks on feria, which is why they 887 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 1: should stay slaves, right, And then we're going to give 888 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,240 Speaker 1: y'all more economic opportunity. We go create this middle class, 889 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 1: so y'all come rock with us, right, And then whites 890 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 1: was like, it was nice knowing you niggas, but hey, 891 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 1: y'all supposed to be slaves. It supposed to be broke. 892 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: We not to we white men. So then of course 893 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: you get this white class. And then this is where 894 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: they play this game of how do we keep the 895 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: people divided so we can continue to rule both of us. 896 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: As opposed to like it being a classiest thing. It's like, right, 897 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 2: it's like, how can we make people forget that both 898 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 2: of y'all are poor. The only thing that you guys 899 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 2: might disagree on is whether a trans person should play 900 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 2: sports or you know. It's like right, and we're gon 901 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 2: we're gonna throw this in conservative value. So we're gonna 902 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 2: throw this ball over here. That's like this crazy, like 903 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 2: just you know, only affects a half a percentage of 904 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 2: the population, but everyone's gonna fight over it. And then 905 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 2: while we're over here, we're we're taking away the ability 906 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 2: for you to purchase a home. 907 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: It's genius for both of y'all if they were black 908 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 1: or white. 909 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 2: If you're both are poor, you're both fucked because now 910 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 2: you guys can't even buy a fucking house. 911 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that. Most people again, you go 912 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: to that asset price is right, houses continue to go up. 913 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: People can't afford the American dream. 914 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 2: That the American dreams cooked. 915 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: So what are they doing, the rich and the large 916 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 1: corporations buying up all the houses? 917 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,280 Speaker 2: Yes, right, fuck Larry fig And. 918 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: The prices continue to go up, but your wages are 919 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: not going up, right, So then they focus on ways 920 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: suppressed and how we not pay you more? We borrow money, right, 921 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 1: and we want to pay off our desks from these 922 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: assets that we bought. The assets continue to go with 923 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 1: we're getting richer, right, and we make your money, But 924 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: we don't want to make less money by paying our 925 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: people more. So let's do automation. Let's bring in AI 926 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,280 Speaker 1: to handle this right, and then what happens. The productivity 927 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: decreases number one, when people can't focus. So when we 928 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 1: talk about an attention economy, when you got too much information, 929 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 1: it stills your focus and then it decreases your ability 930 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 1: to be productive. So productivity in America has been decreasing 931 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: over the years. So that means that human capital, your labor, 932 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: workforce is worthless, right, because people are not producing as 933 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: much value. They just said gen Z's are lazy. They 934 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: don't want to work, don't want that your work, you 935 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They don't even want to be 936 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: men and women. They want to be Z and Z. 937 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. A It's different out here. 938 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: So that means let's bring in AI robots right to 939 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: replace the productivity of humans and make it more efficient. 940 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: Because we don't have to pay them more, we can 941 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: still make more. Then let's bring in immigrants because we 942 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: got a baby bust in America were not making enough babies. 943 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 1: Whites are gonna be a minority. Okay, Then that triggers 944 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: a fear forget get Well, now we're fearful, forget what 945 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: we did to people. We gonna be a minority. And 946 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 1: what would the minorities do to us if they empower? 947 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: If we treated them like this? So number one, stop 948 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: teaching them history so when they got damn get in power, 949 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: they don't look at us as an enemy. And what 950 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: you did to us, we're gonna do to y'all. This 951 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: all of this fear going on, so they have to 952 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: continue to suppress the wages, produce more AI robotics. The 953 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: robots is gonna become so goddamn efficient you're gonna need 954 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: no humans. But this is the way that it always happened. 955 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: You go from people as a labor for as horses, 956 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: you go from trains and automation. Then you got the 957 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: digital age, and now it's saying, forget humans, let's just 958 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,720 Speaker 1: go completely with robots and keep all of the money. 959 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: May make everything so expensive that you don't own nothing 960 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,879 Speaker 1: and be happy. And then what happens when people don't 961 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: believe in their ability to make money in the system 962 00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 1: and they think it's rigged. 963 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 2: They gamble right, they're they're fucking with meme coins and 964 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 2: parlays exactly. 965 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: So our generation, you know, previous the boomers and early millennials, 966 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 1: they had what lottery tickets and power balls. Now it's 967 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: the parlay, you feel me, and it's the mean coin. 968 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: So gabling is going to continue to go hide because 969 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: you don't believe in the system. And then they putting 970 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: tarifts on everybody, who's gonna make everything more expensive for everybody. 971 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: So it's interesting that society can't see this. And this 972 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: is why I tell people, like I got my book here, 973 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 1: our goals, Like when you look at the Black Panther party, 974 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 1: they had the free food. To me, the free food 975 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: is getting financial literacy right now, learning the skills that 976 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,240 Speaker 1: nobody can take away from you that allows you to eat. 977 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you look at financial the financial system 978 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 2: as a game, it's just with anything, man, if you 979 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 2: just learn the rules to the game, I mean, it's 980 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 2: and and you know, the information is there. 981 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent there and it's not hitting from you. 982 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: And this is what I tell people. It's like Trump 983 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 1: ain't gonna stop you from reading a book. Right, he 984 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: ain't gonna stop you from learning this skill. You're gonna 985 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 1: stop you from starting a business. You gonna be so 986 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: fearful and so worried about what's happening in the world. 987 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 1: You're not even building your own world, right, Your world 988 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: is whatever you pay attention to. 989 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,959 Speaker 2: And then you get to the point where now you're, well, yo, man, 990 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 2: Like that's the thing is like the blaming mindset. Well, 991 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 2: Trump's the president. 992 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: You know. 993 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 2: It's like you got you gotta say, like, like at the 994 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 2: end of the day, whether it was Biden, whether it 995 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 2: was COMMLA that won, whether it was Trump at won again, 996 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 2: it's like, okay, how do you save yourself? Well, also, 997 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 2: how do you say, okay, well, I know if this 998 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 2: person's winning, how do I set myself up for success 999 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 2: regardless of who the president is? But okay, cool, I 1000 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,479 Speaker 2: know if Trump won, this is what's gonna happen. Maybe 1001 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 2: I should invest in these type of stocks, Maybe I 1002 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 2: should look into these types of. 1003 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: You know, see, that's knowing how to respond right right, 1004 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: that's knowing how to plan and think strategic ahead. So 1005 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 1: if you're going to be strategic, that means you got 1006 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: to be a general on your own life. Life is war. Yeah, 1007 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,399 Speaker 1: I mean you gotta take a step back and think 1008 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 1: about how the hell do I secure my future and 1009 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: my children? You feel me if you get I promise, 1010 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: if you can get focused during this time, you will 1011 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: be one of the top one percent. 1012 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 2: And it's it's funny too because even on the crypto's front, 1013 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 2: like you know, even just getting like I think what 1014 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 2: happens with krypto. And it's probably better too because in 1015 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 2: order to even get into the mean coin games. 1016 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: Whole another conversation. 1017 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:24,760 Speaker 2: No, but there's but there's so much like it takes 1018 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 2: a few hours. But it's not easy to just sign 1019 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 2: up on an app, is what I'm trying to say. 1020 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 2: Like you got to have like a coin base, you 1021 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 2: gotta have a crypto dot com wallet too, and then 1022 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 2: you gotta have a DeFi wallet, and it's just it's 1023 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 2: just not the easiest thing. For like, for example, the 1024 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 2: day that the trump point point went crazy, if anybody 1025 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 2: opened their phone and was like, oh, how do I get? 1026 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 2: It wasn't just like you could just get. You kind 1027 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 2: of already had to be in that time. And by 1028 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 2: that it's exactly exactly. 1029 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: And by telling you buy you liquiddity for anybody to 1030 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: dump on you. 1031 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 2: We we woke up in the morning and I was like, damn, 1032 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 2: it's twenty four bucks. I'm like. 1033 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,800 Speaker 1: But then it went up to like sixty. 1034 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 2: I was like, fuck. 1035 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,879 Speaker 1: But it's better to not get in at twenty four right, 1036 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: then to not know when is going to drop and 1037 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:11,240 Speaker 1: then lose. 1038 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 2: All your right because that's when it happened. 1039 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 1: Look at the mean coin, right. Mean coin thing is 1040 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: the attention economy on steroids. It's basically, instead of you 1041 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 1: do a podcast, you got a funnel, right, somebody you 1042 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: gather attention. That attention is converted into a product. Somebody 1043 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: you capture that audience information. Then you retarget them and 1044 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: try to get them to buy something. So now you've 1045 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 1: made some money off that attention. Mean coins are based 1046 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: on narratives, right, So what's going on in pop culture, 1047 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 1: whatever that's happening, they will make a mean connected to that. 1048 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 1: So Donald Trump just said, let me mean myself, So 1049 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 1: somebody that goddamn become president. And then as all that 1050 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 1: attention is ciphering over here, attention then becomes currency. Everybody 1051 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 1: pour that energy into it. I get paid billions because 1052 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: how much is that attention worth, right, So when we 1053 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: look at it through the reality in the dark side 1054 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: of the mean coin, is that a lot of these 1055 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 1: are inner circles, right of people. Yeah, so it'll be 1056 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: somebody that say, all right, I'm gonna drop a coin, 1057 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: and behind the scenes though I hit you up, cav right, 1058 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: I say, look, I'm gonna drop a coin. I'm gonna 1059 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: need you to push this out. Now, you got a 1060 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: Telegram group already allocated, some money's towards you. I'm gonna 1061 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 1: tell you when it's gonna drop, how it's gonna drop. 1062 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 1: Y gonna get in. Yeah, you jump into your Telegram group, 1063 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: somebody in your telegram group because you a og in there. 1064 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: Then they send it to they telegram group, then they 1065 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: send it to Twitter. Right now, all of these is 1066 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: layers of people who getting it earlier later right, like 1067 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: by the time you see it on Instagram is late. 1068 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,319 Speaker 1: So once you understand that the game is rigged, that 1069 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 1: they have pay an influencer on Twitter five thousand dollars 1070 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 1: or something to tush it hot too a coin, that 1071 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: one goes up. But the thing is is you're not 1072 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,879 Speaker 1: getting early, then you late. If you don't have some 1073 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: sort of insider track. You don't have a bot that 1074 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 1: is sniping it for you instantly, which is what they 1075 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: do to automate. And all these things that I'm saying, 1076 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure the average person don't know, and it's letting you. 1077 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 1: You should rewind this and say, okay, let me go 1078 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: to deep seek, let me go to open ai, and 1079 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 1: let me put this information in their study and then 1080 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: ask them to break it down to me. If you 1081 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,720 Speaker 1: don't have the focus to do that right now, promise 1082 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: you that shit you about to do the rest of 1083 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 1: your life right and the things you about to do 1084 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 1: tonight is not that important. It's not more important than 1085 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: you making a million dollars right or one hundred thousand 1086 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 1: dollars as from your new skill set and new information, 1087 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 1: which is just you getting focused. Now. A lot of 1088 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 1: these nineties nine percent of them are rug pulls and scams. 1089 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 1: But here's the beauty of it is that bitcoin is 1090 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 1: gonna be bitcoin. You go buy it and it's just 1091 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: an exchange of currency, right. And what you're doing is 1092 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 1: you're increasing your purchasing power, right because as bitcoin goes up, 1093 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 1: your purchasing power goes up. So if inflation goes up, 1094 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,359 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, right, because you're still able to buy 1095 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: the same amount or more of things based on the 1096 00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: amount of money you have. So if you work at job, 1097 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 1: whether you're getting fifty thousand dollars, whether you getting one 1098 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,919 Speaker 1: hundred thousand, yo, go number one is develop a skill set, 1099 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 1: learn stocks, learn trade in, learn something. If you can, 1100 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 1: you got that focus or do it long term. If 1101 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 1: you don't, that just means you ain't got no discipline, 1102 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 1: which is fine. That means you know what you need 1103 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 1: to do. 1104 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five. Man, it's got to be the word 1105 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 2: of the year has got to be disciplined. 1106 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, it has to be discipline and focused because 1107 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: without it you can't do nothing. You got to have 1108 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 1: that will to power. And so for me, it's like 1109 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: study the game, study what the wealthy people are doing, 1110 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,919 Speaker 1: and do what they go do during this time. 1111 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 2: Even if like the fair minimum, you know, I mean, 1112 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure you're paying attention to this, but if you 1113 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 2: would have followed Nancy Pelosi's trades were published ten days ago, 1114 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 2: I mean, and you just mirrored what she did. 1115 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,320 Speaker 1: You can copy trade and then just help it automatically. 1116 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 1: Think she's up one hundred and eighty percent, Nancy go 1117 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 1: keeck her inside of money, Na's money different and so. 1118 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's like that's something that's as 1119 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 2: easy as like, hey, if you got to extra two 1120 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 2: under bucks a month, just follow these. I mean there's 1121 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 2: the informations there. 1122 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,319 Speaker 1: But then I'm gonna say this though, if you think 1123 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: it's worth money, then why not educate yourself? Might not 1124 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 1: be fully engaged educated. I understand it's not easy. Who 1125 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 1: cares about the easy part? And this is why I 1126 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 1: tell if you a man, why you looking for easy? 1127 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 1: Then don't try to seek an easy life. He tried 1128 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: to figure out, all right, what is something that's worth doing? 1129 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: You feel me if you're a man, like that's too hard. 1130 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 1: That's your emotions. When you were thinking, man, I don't 1131 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,879 Speaker 1: our rise above emotions and still get it done. I'm 1132 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 1: not looking for easiness. That ain't That ain't the development 1133 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: of a man. If your father said, man, I ain't 1134 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 1: do it because it wasn't easy, you look at it 1135 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 1: even like he was soft. 1136 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's so many things like even with 1137 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 2: the pitcoin and any there's ways you could leverage if 1138 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 2: you if you think you can read the chart and 1139 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,800 Speaker 2: you could long and short like preposterous amounts of equity 1140 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 2: of those coins that you don't necessarily have. 1141 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can, but again it's gambling. I mean, it's 1142 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 1: only gambling if you don't have the knowledge and the strategy. 1143 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,279 Speaker 1: If you educated, it's no longer gambling, because anything you 1144 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 1: do is gambling. If you don't have knowledge. You can 1145 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: start a clothing company, you don't know what the hell 1146 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,959 Speaker 1: you doing? For sure, you just go get a shirt 1147 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 1: printed up. You ain't got no marketing background, right, you 1148 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,760 Speaker 1: don't know how to do no branding, build a world, 1149 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 1: build a funnel. That's gambling. 1150 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 2: You feel me. 1151 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 1: If you're a rap artist and you make a song 1152 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 1: and you just push it out there, no marketing, no nothing, 1153 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 1: you planning on it, no plan that's gambling. You you 1154 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,280 Speaker 1: just waiting for luck to have it. For sure, everything 1155 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 1: is gambling. When you ain't got no knowledge, get you 1156 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: some knowledge, didn't get you some money? 1157 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the institution? What is it saying? 1158 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,240 Speaker 1: What's the name of a Trump's the Department of Government official? 1159 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, the crypto the crypto company is a 1160 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,760 Speaker 2: part of the world Finance. 1161 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,720 Speaker 1: Thing, the liberty World Fighter. 1162 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're buying up so much ethereum. 1163 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 1: Well think about it. So number one, US companies and 1164 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 1: coins will go do well with him talking about all 1165 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: of this less focus on America, right and he was 1166 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,839 Speaker 1: trying to put tariffs on all these countries like I 1167 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: heard today, was talking about putting tariffs on nvideo and 1168 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,359 Speaker 1: different things of that nature. US companies gonna do very 1169 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 1: well right now. Also, US cryptos so ones that are 1170 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: ISO twenty two compliant, right, meaning that these are the 1171 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:24,239 Speaker 1: ones that are following regulations right already. So if you're 1172 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 1: looking at your xrps, you're looking at your ethereums, and 1173 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: your of course ethereum is like silver and XRP, I 1174 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 1: mean bitcoin is like gold. Then you got your solanos. 1175 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 1: Then you got things like inside that industry they call narratives, 1176 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 1: which would be like real world assets r WA tokens, 1177 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,800 Speaker 1: so those are things that's connected to real world things. 1178 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 1: Then you got AI tokens. It's hot right now, so 1179 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,239 Speaker 1: eventually that's go boom. So what you would do is 1180 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 1: go on YouTube university, go on coin market cap, go 1181 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 1: study quantum resistant ones, quantum machines is coming. All you 1182 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 1: need is a little information to become a master at 1183 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,360 Speaker 1: that you don't have to win off everyone, pick an 1184 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 1: industry and say, you know what, I'm just focus on 1185 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: AI coins and figure out if I can be the 1186 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 1: best person to figure out which AI coins is gonna work. Right, 1187 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 1: But before that, I think it's worth everybody because I 1188 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 1: think what we try to do sometime keV is that 1189 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 1: we speak to the lazy person out there, the person 1190 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 1: that we know that's not really gonna get educated, so 1191 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 1: we try to give them the lowest way to get in. 1192 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 2: Like, hey, look, just right, I did this, like in 1193 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, I bought Ripple right, and I just bought 1194 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 2: it because the homie was looking at me like, look, bro, 1195 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 2: I know you ain't in a crypto, but just and 1196 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 2: I was like all right, bet. 1197 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: But you know the reason that's dangerous because if they 1198 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,920 Speaker 1: get in and they win the way Tokonomi's worth psychology, 1199 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 1: they got rewarded, so it makes them want to do 1200 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: it again. They got a good entry. If they get in, 1201 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 1: they lose. Right now they emotionally disconnected because now they're fearful. 1202 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: So now they feel punished, so now it makes them rejected. 1203 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 2: Happened to me when look I had ripple and it 1204 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 2: went up to three three something, and my boy was like, 1205 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 2: it's gonna go up to five, don't sell. And then 1206 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 2: it crashed see, and I was like, man, this crypto 1207 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 2: for sure. 1208 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 1: So I would rather you get educated on why it 1209 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 1: happened and understand cycles and then you'd be like you 1210 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 1: know what, I'm just go. 1211 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 2: Hold just think about twenty twenty the pandemic hits, and 1212 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 2: there was that. I remember I was sitting in downtown 1213 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 2: LA in my car and I saw that bitcoin was 1214 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 2: like sixty something. It was like under seven grand, and 1215 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 2: I was like, damn, but I was, I was, I 1216 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 2: was tripping. I was like, nah, man, the fucking world 1217 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 2: might in this pandemic. 1218 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 1: The biggest reason not taking no risks. 1219 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, I could have really like you know, 1220 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 2: but like you said, it's like at the end of 1221 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 2: the stem, at the end of the day, man, it's 1222 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 2: very very like educate yourself. They're like as like you said, 1223 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 2: it's like they're trying to devalue your labor. So whatever 1224 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 2: you you know, if you are a if you work 1225 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 2: at a retail store, if you work at you know, 1226 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 2: if you do construction, like they're trying to devalue those jobs. 1227 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 2: You know, there's certain jobs too that they say are 1228 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 2: like AI proof, like whether it's a plumber or you know, electrician, 1229 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 2: shit like that, But there is money out There's what's 1230 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 2: AI proof. 1231 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 1: Is being a human being, right, anything that's not robotic 1232 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: and automated. 1233 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 2: Right now, I'm so glad the AI rapper failed. The 1234 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,959 Speaker 2: member dad they had, they had that. 1235 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 1: King Malonea's still dropping them old school classics. 1236 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 2: But it's crazy, right, It's like it's like that kind 1237 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 2: of shit. It's like if you're in the art like that's. 1238 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 1: But even the rap game is so like it's interesting 1239 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,439 Speaker 1: because you know, you had the whole Kendrick and Drake thing, 1240 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 1: But I don't feel like nobody picked up the mental 1241 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 1: sense then, and it's a blank opportunity. And I think 1242 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 1: part of the reason is I don't think a lot 1243 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 1: of people understand the consumption habits of people right now, 1244 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 1: right Like, I think what you should be focusing on 1245 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 1: is how do you create a soundtrack for people? Right right? 1246 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 1: Because this is how people curate their music selection based 1247 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 1: on their mood. Right. They look at their life as 1248 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: a movie. They are content creator, right. If you're gonna 1249 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 1: put music as a soundtrack behind what you're doing. So 1250 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 1: you're looking at your movie and your content creat and 1251 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 1: who is making music to how I feel in this 1252 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: mood that I'm creating. Brands are doing that right, They're 1253 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,919 Speaker 1: creating mood boards and figuring out how do we build 1254 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 1: a brand that makes it feel like it's a mood. 1255 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 1: So when you want to be in that mood and 1256 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 1: connected to that feeling, you buy my brand. It's the 1257 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 1: same thing with music. And I think the music industry 1258 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 1: you have the artists and what they're not connected to 1259 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 1: is good people. That's good with marketing, right. You look 1260 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 1: at Kendrick. He got pg lang right, and the people 1261 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 1: that's connected to him are great at marketing. Sure, they're 1262 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 1: great at building a world, understanding that mood and the 1263 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 1: psychology and the symbolism that goes into it. And if 1264 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,120 Speaker 1: you lazy as an artist, you go lose. So I 1265 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 1: would say you curate yourself as this character, right, and 1266 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 1: you build this world and then you make music for 1267 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 1: that world. So when anybody want to feel attached to that, 1268 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 1: they go listen to your music. 1269 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think, you know, at the end of the day, 1270 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,480 Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that I think the good thing that came 1271 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 2: out of this beef was not like us. I mean, 1272 01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 2: I think You'rephouria is the best song out of all 1273 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 2: of them. Are Euphoria to me, like the most. It's 1274 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 2: almost like a freaking like a Quentin Tarantino movie that 1275 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 2: you watch a few times and you're like, and then 1276 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 2: you watch it like the tenth time. 1277 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 1: In your life. 1278 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh shit, like he really predicted all. But like 1279 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 2: you said it, you know, I always say this, like 1280 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 2: I always had this this critique about Drake, and you know, 1281 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 2: Drake is the biggest hit maker ever, you know, wherever 1282 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 2: you want to put him on your all time list, 1283 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 2: I think it's once he sued you gotta be like 1284 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 2: dog some whole shit. But nonetheless, I hated that Drake 1285 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 2: you never knew how he felt about anything. 1286 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I tweeted that once, And then when. 1287 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 2: I've been saying this for years, I'm like, you don't 1288 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 2: know how Drake feels about you anything. 1289 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: Be at the top and not give commentary and narrative 1290 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 1: and introspection on anything. Right, it says that I have this, 1291 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 1: I have this position that historically everybody else that's been 1292 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 1: in this position that does that. But I decided not 1293 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 1: to take that position because you want to be safer 1294 01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,120 Speaker 1: the brands, So that makes you super commercial and that 1295 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,919 Speaker 1: opens you up to the attack because being a top 1296 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 1: of hip hop is a responsibility. You feel me, like 1297 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 1: cultural responsibility. You feel me when things happen in the world. 1298 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 1: I ain't saying you gotta goddamn become TUPAC, but you 1299 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 1: gotta say something, say something because music curates, music narrates right, 1300 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 1: music is inspirational, aspirational, this is where we're going. That's 1301 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,280 Speaker 1: a good thing that the Kendrick Lamars of the world 1302 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,840 Speaker 1: have the ability to do. Right. He creates a soundtrack 1303 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 1: to the movement of what I'm seeing or what's happening culturally. 1304 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 1: Then he can get back to partying. You feel me. 1305 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:35,960 Speaker 2: It's like you go to an event to Pimp a 1306 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 2: Butterfly and you're like, you know, I know a lot 1307 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 2: of people during like twenty twenty where like, Yo, this 1308 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,680 Speaker 2: album is aged because people gave him shit about that album. 1309 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 2: That's my favorite. 1310 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 1: But it's like how much a dollar really costs? Think 1311 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 1: about this though. 1312 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 2: When I was growing up and I don't know how 1313 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 2: old you are, but I'm thirty eight, but like you know, 1314 01:02:55,240 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 2: there was always there was always like conscious level hip 1315 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,720 Speaker 2: hop at a pretty high level of like even though 1316 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 2: rockets records and like common and most deaf and those 1317 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 2: guys were like technically underground, they were still going gold. 1318 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 2: They were still going platinum. I don't know who who 1319 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 2: that is right now? Like that's like like who's somebody 1320 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 2: who has like made I mean shout to Macklamore, who 1321 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 2: made a song about what's going on in Palestine, but 1322 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 2: somebody who's made like I guess the new version of 1323 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,440 Speaker 2: protest music. I think Killer Mike's there. I think the 1324 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 2: Killer Mike's are og. 1325 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the last great song was Fucked Donald Trump. 1326 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 1: Protest music for. 1327 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 2: Sure, because that song actually was getting played. Yeah, people were. 1328 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 2: You go to the club and. 1329 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 1: You would hear fuck Donald Trump right like meaning like 1330 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 1: it was a soundtrack to a movement. You feel me 1331 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,040 Speaker 1: like what's the sentiment of the crowd. But I feel 1332 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 1: like a lot of rappers don't want to go on 1333 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,000 Speaker 1: to stand on something. They don't want to say something 1334 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:54,320 Speaker 1: and didn't have to stand because they they're so you know, 1335 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 1: well destroys the music though, because it's the honesty, the 1336 01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:02,160 Speaker 1: authenticity that we love. I rather you tell me. Look, man, 1337 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,240 Speaker 1: I took a check from Kamala, but I ain't really 1338 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,640 Speaker 1: like it. Some of the things that Donald Trump says, 1339 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm kind of with some of the values. You feel 1340 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 1: me on the line, you feel me and you live, 1341 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,960 Speaker 1: and it's like, I want to hear what's actually on 1342 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 1: your mind. 1343 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,480 Speaker 2: When Ushup belonged at the Kamala thing, I was like, 1344 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 2: didn't this dude just say on TV he wasn't gonna 1345 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 2: endorse CNY, But like just. 1346 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 1: It's something like he was trying to get rid of 1347 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 1: ditty rooms or something. 1348 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 2: It did like you said, right, It's like almost like 1349 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 2: I just had this conversation. Are you familiar with Channel five, 1350 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 2: the kid Andrew who goes out and does like the 1351 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 2: He's got a dope YouTube channel. He's really really popular. 1352 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 2: But we were talking about how like there's this weird 1353 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 2: intersection of like people who were Bernie Sanders supporters and 1354 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 2: then those people voting for Trump in twenty twenty four, 1355 01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 2: which is like crazy if you think about like how 1356 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,000 Speaker 2: there's like this like weird venn diagram where there was 1357 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 2: enough of them to like agree on whatever intersected. 1358 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,400 Speaker 1: Well, you gotta say, if you're gonna study history, you 1359 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 1: gotta study the Southern strategy, and the Southern strategy was 1360 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to missalign and realign. How 1361 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 1: do when a base becomes unaligned with their base, it 1362 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 1: gives you an opportunity for you aligned with yours, right, 1363 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 1: And so it's how the Republicans is figuring out how 1364 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,439 Speaker 1: to steal the Democratic base. Democrats will go so far. 1365 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 1: What would all black men have been complained about these 1366 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 1: last years is the emasculation of the black man? Who 1367 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,840 Speaker 1: do we attribute that to the Democratic Party? So anybody 1368 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,960 Speaker 1: that speaks to those values and made them feel like 1369 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,480 Speaker 1: you are aligning with mine now, right. But then the 1370 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 1: Southern strategy goes towards this fact of how do we 1371 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,800 Speaker 1: say nigga without saying nigga? Right? I forgot the guy 1372 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 1: and people go study the Southern strategy. Look it up 1373 01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 1: on YouTube and you will see him. And he was 1374 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,919 Speaker 1: basically saying, well, we can't say the nigga word no more. 1375 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,040 Speaker 1: So we need to figure out a way to affect 1376 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 1: black people and have cold words without having to say it. 1377 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,120 Speaker 1: So in one of the things he talked about tasts 1378 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,360 Speaker 1: because he said, well, it's going to have the we 1379 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 1: if we're doing tax cuts only for the rich, and 1380 01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,000 Speaker 1: black people are the poorest, then it's going to fit 1381 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,920 Speaker 1: them the most. Right. They will put together all of 1382 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,959 Speaker 1: these things right. It's like the new way of saying 1383 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 1: DEI right? Or all these things? Or how do we 1384 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,240 Speaker 1: figure out to affect these niggas without having to say nigga? 1385 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,720 Speaker 1: And basically how do we stay white supremacists in power? 1386 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,440 Speaker 1: And it's changing landscape because they understood that they couldn't 1387 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,760 Speaker 1: do it direct no more. These are not my words. 1388 01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 1: You can go study it and see. This has been 1389 01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 1: a strategy that they've been working on imploring for a 1390 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,880 Speaker 1: long time. And my thing, Kevin, is the fact that 1391 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 1: they laid out and said we're gonna have a first 1392 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 1: hundred days. The way to respond to that is, Okay, well, 1393 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,800 Speaker 1: these gonna be our first hundred days. It's not to complain, 1394 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 1: it's not the protest. It's to respond. It's not to react, 1395 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 1: it's to respond, that's your first hundred days. Cool first 1396 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 1: hundred days. We don't like corporations because we feel like 1397 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,000 Speaker 1: when they say FDI, they saying f black people, whether 1398 01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 1: that's true or not, because black men don't feel so 1399 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,560 Speaker 1: connected to it. Mostly because we don't know what we 1400 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,080 Speaker 1: actually got from it, right, right, But whether that's true 1401 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 1: or not, we still get to utilize that moment to say, Okay, well, 1402 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,640 Speaker 1: we want to boycott y'all anyway, because it's better for 1403 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 1: us to buycot with each other. So we got the boycott. 1404 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,240 Speaker 1: We don't buy from y'all, but the bycot we buy 1405 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 1: for themselves, and we say, let's become pro sumers, let's 1406 01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,480 Speaker 1: produce what we consume. This is the greatest opportunity in 1407 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 1: Black American history for there to be a mass movement 1408 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,840 Speaker 1: of realigning right with the radical thought processes of our 1409 01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 1: own economic rights, our own economic vehicles, and where we 1410 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 1: create an economic network. We got digital nation states already. 1411 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,160 Speaker 1: The problem, though, keV, is the fact that we don't 1412 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,919 Speaker 1: all agree. So I'll call out all black organizations, from 1413 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 1: the NAACP to the Black CAUCUSS, to the NABJ, to 1414 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,400 Speaker 1: all of these different and I say, okay, why don't 1415 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 1: we sit down and have a round table. Trump don't 1416 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,040 Speaker 1: stop us from doing that. So you're telling me we 1417 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,440 Speaker 1: can organize a protest, but we can't sit down with 1418 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,080 Speaker 1: each other and come up with an agenda. How come 1419 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 1: we got the Divine Nine, which was started from the 1420 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 1: Boulet secret organizations based on Scoll and Bone activity. You 1421 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,320 Speaker 1: got the Black Masons, you got the muslim You got 1422 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,080 Speaker 1: all of them. So if I want to create change 1423 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 1: in America, I would go to all the leaders. Then 1424 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,880 Speaker 1: I would get the people in every organization to ask, Yeah, 1425 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,400 Speaker 1: why isn't the Black church sitting down with the Black Muslims. 1426 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 1: If we figure that this is our biggest incredible threat, 1427 01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 1: if it is as bad as you saying, and this 1428 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,960 Speaker 1: is the most radical shift that ever happened, then you 1429 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 1: not willing to do nothing radical to respond, right. That 1430 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,280 Speaker 1: lets me know that either you're sold out, you don't care. 1431 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 1: Only time you do care, right is when you feel 1432 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 1: like you need to save face in front of the people. 1433 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,439 Speaker 1: So you go be a Al Sharpton and go do 1434 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,720 Speaker 1: a protest inside the Costco to bycop with them, which 1435 01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:38,679 Speaker 1: means absolutely nothing at all. That generation is just overw 1436 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 1: and dead because young people don't respect that shit. So 1437 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,800 Speaker 1: for me, it's calling out us. Right. The ex King 1438 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,640 Speaker 1: and President came out and said, way y'all crying it. 1439 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:47,439 Speaker 1: He was talking to his. 1440 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 2: People, Oh I saw the Kenyan presidents. Yeah, he was 1441 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,599 Speaker 2: like yo, let's build her own like the US don't 1442 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:53,160 Speaker 2: like that, man. 1443 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,800 Speaker 1: When they put sanctions when Trump originally put sanctions on 1444 01:08:55,880 --> 01:09:00,040 Speaker 1: China where they can buy chips, so Carley, right, But 1445 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,960 Speaker 1: what they did to say, Okay, well, we're about to 1446 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,599 Speaker 1: focus money towards how do we do it without y'all? 1447 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,240 Speaker 2: And you get deep seek right right? An advance model 1448 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:10,679 Speaker 2: fucked up? N vidio stock. 1449 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,360 Speaker 1: What does that represent? When I look at that, you 1450 01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,000 Speaker 1: feel me like it gives you a blueprint? Man, listen, 1451 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 1: if you can't goddamn drinking they found, make your fountain better, 1452 01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:20,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you can't go to 1453 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,880 Speaker 1: those schools, make your school better, you feel me? Prove 1454 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,639 Speaker 1: we don't need them, they need us. Because what happens. 1455 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,599 Speaker 1: Americans number one, are the biggest consumers of the world, 1456 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,920 Speaker 1: but Black Americans are the biggest consumers in America. If 1457 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 1: we shift our economic activity towards ourselves and creating our 1458 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,360 Speaker 1: own vehicles, the problem is we afraid to think long term. 1459 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna take some time. But so what this how 1460 01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,680 Speaker 1: you set up your children? Why would you want to 1461 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 1: have children in the world that you can't protect, that 1462 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,719 Speaker 1: you can't say you know what when they was tripping. 1463 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 1: We built our own thing, and this is what we're 1464 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,640 Speaker 1: proud of. That's why I got my show coming up. 1465 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:56,879 Speaker 1: Save yourself and think about it like this, because it's 1466 01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,880 Speaker 1: a message to us. Save yourself. Right. If you see 1467 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,479 Speaker 1: a man, grown man drowning in the poor right and 1468 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:08,280 Speaker 1: nobody's helping him, why you think that is he's panicking, 1469 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 1: he's drowning, you know what I mean, he's tripping, and 1470 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:15,519 Speaker 1: everybody just looking at him, Like, bro, say yourself because 1471 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,840 Speaker 1: the whole time the water, not even that got there deep. 1472 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:19,839 Speaker 1: All you have to do is stand up for himself. 1473 01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,040 Speaker 1: And this is the analogy I see with us. We 1474 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 1: act like we drowning when we not. All we got 1475 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,720 Speaker 1: to ever really do is stand up. But we act 1476 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,720 Speaker 1: like our legs don't work, we don't want to get 1477 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,719 Speaker 1: to moving. So I see it as a viable option 1478 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 1: we got. When I talk about blockchain technology, I'm not 1479 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,240 Speaker 1: saying it from a capitalist stand view. I don't care 1480 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,639 Speaker 1: if we don't own it. If they can create mean 1481 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,760 Speaker 1: coins that circulate hundreds of millions of dollars among them, 1482 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,080 Speaker 1: then how come we can't do that? Then we raise 1483 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,960 Speaker 1: funds fast by major assets that we now own right 1484 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 1: and do for stuff. How can we create create our 1485 01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:56,240 Speaker 1: own First of all, you study Estonia. Estonia is one 1486 01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,040 Speaker 1: of the most digital nations in the world because they 1487 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:00,880 Speaker 1: see where the world is going or they prepared for it. 1488 01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 1: They responded, Now you can create a business in like 1489 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,040 Speaker 1: ten minutes. You can become a citizen of Estonia and 1490 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:11,160 Speaker 1: then contribute to their GDP right digitally. If you take 1491 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,960 Speaker 1: that as a stance, and all these groups create their 1492 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:17,320 Speaker 1: own digital nations and then they're buying physical assets, then 1493 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,920 Speaker 1: they got their own currencies attached. Because we live in 1494 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,360 Speaker 1: a time of blockchain, why are we not doing that? 1495 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,520 Speaker 2: Because we're not focused and most people still don't even understand. 1496 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 1: Block We don't need everybody, We only need the leaders 1497 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,760 Speaker 1: to understand it. I think the idea of trying to 1498 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,439 Speaker 1: get people to unify, we look at it as if 1499 01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,759 Speaker 1: we need forty five men black people to come together. 1500 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:39,200 Speaker 1: You don't need that. You going to take again these organizations. 1501 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 1: You take the top black organizations, bring their presidents and 1502 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,599 Speaker 1: CEOs together and have a roundtable. If they don't want 1503 01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,760 Speaker 1: to come to the roundtables because they sold out and 1504 01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,240 Speaker 1: they owe another community more than they owe their own 1505 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,320 Speaker 1: So it's about allegiance. I don't need unity. I don't 1506 01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,160 Speaker 1: even want everybody's unity because some people ain't worth shit 1507 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:57,759 Speaker 1: right now, and I know they. 1508 01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,360 Speaker 2: Also there's real commerce and a real economy to the 1509 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,679 Speaker 2: division and the fear that gets. 1510 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,519 Speaker 1: They don't get paid to make solutions. It's like the 1511 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,559 Speaker 1: homeless problem in California. They get home. 1512 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,559 Speaker 2: Everybody's money, he continue to prepare you my god. Yeah, 1513 01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 2: there's so many people's salaries that are just. 1514 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,360 Speaker 1: Our efficiency should be consistently increasing year over year and 1515 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 1: we should be getting better. That represents our growth. You know. 1516 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,760 Speaker 2: What I thought was just like a surface level, kind 1517 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,880 Speaker 2: of shallow perspective of like or the depiction of like, 1518 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 2: hey man, when Jimmy Carter's funeral happened and Brock and 1519 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:37,280 Speaker 2: Trump were just laughing their ass off, I'm like, yo, Like, 1520 01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:42,000 Speaker 2: if this dude is like truly like the end of 1521 01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:46,960 Speaker 2: democracy and truly like as evil and bad and you 1522 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 2: know this fear porn that's been being pushed, you shouldn't 1523 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,160 Speaker 2: be laughing with him. That's why I fuck with Michelle, 1524 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,120 Speaker 2: because Michelle was like, I'm not going. 1525 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:58,320 Speaker 1: I mean I've seen Michelle feeding uh George Bush mint 1526 01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,519 Speaker 1: or something one time as well though. And I remember 1527 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,479 Speaker 1: when George Bush the Katrina president. You feel me, the 1528 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,600 Speaker 1: Katrina president, that we act like he wasn't you. 1529 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,400 Speaker 2: I mean, how many how many people in the Middle 1530 01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:08,920 Speaker 2: East were just. 1531 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,240 Speaker 1: He went out there and just murdered and bond them in. 1532 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,080 Speaker 1: And this is what when you look at that picture 1533 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,240 Speaker 1: number one, Obama come out and scolding black man, and 1534 01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,160 Speaker 1: then months later at the Donald Trump win laughing with 1535 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,519 Speaker 1: him and then not clearing it up at all at all. 1536 01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,840 Speaker 1: You feel me it's disrespectful. But what it really is 1537 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,439 Speaker 1: is a clear picture of America. I think it's the 1538 01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:30,720 Speaker 1: Maraica we wanted to be. 1539 01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,960 Speaker 2: What it is level like guys, left wing, right wing, 1540 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,800 Speaker 2: Saint berg bro, here's what it is. 1541 01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,400 Speaker 1: You don't think behind the scenes they not civil. Yes, 1542 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,360 Speaker 1: generals give the at least the greatest opportunity to meet 1543 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 1: and have conversations, right because it's on the book. Everybody 1544 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,920 Speaker 1: know what's happening, so they get the past messages. Otherwise 1545 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,000 Speaker 1: it's very hard. They got to go through back channels 1546 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:53,160 Speaker 1: and back channels, right, So it's very interesting. But again 1547 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,080 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful time to save yourself, right, and what 1548 01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,719 Speaker 1: to save yourself. Look like it means like educating yourself 1549 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,640 Speaker 1: and real strategies, right, being able to come together and 1550 01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 1: sit down and talk about what we're about to do 1551 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,640 Speaker 1: the next hundred days and executing that plan. Right. You 1552 01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,400 Speaker 1: don't have to do everything in front of the public, 1553 01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,439 Speaker 1: have it private, right, you know what I'm saying, Like 1554 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,479 Speaker 1: there's there should be coordination and organizing. Whether I don't 1555 01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,600 Speaker 1: care who sides you fall along, everybody should agree with 1556 01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,240 Speaker 1: the messages of save yourself because that's how this administration 1557 01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,720 Speaker 1: is moving. We're gonna tell you what we're doing. Now 1558 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,800 Speaker 1: it's up to you to respond. This how we're gonna 1559 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 1: move the economy, right, this is what we gonna get 1560 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,120 Speaker 1: rid of, this is what we don't like, and then 1561 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,040 Speaker 1: like all right, y'all got y'all playbook. This is how 1562 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,040 Speaker 1: we respond. Now, what do you? 1563 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,240 Speaker 2: I got a question randomly because I know Trump had 1564 01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:41,519 Speaker 2: always had been floating getting rid of the Board of 1565 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,599 Speaker 2: Education nationally and leaving it up to the states. I'm 1566 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,719 Speaker 2: just curious from your perspective because then you've got states 1567 01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,920 Speaker 2: like Florida who are obviously gonna, you know, do the 1568 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,479 Speaker 2: sand to stay, you know, take out all kinds of shit. 1569 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:55,439 Speaker 2: But do you think it's a good or a bad thing? 1570 01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,200 Speaker 2: If it's like up to the States, what the curriculum 1571 01:14:58,320 --> 01:14:59,320 Speaker 2: is that kids are learning. 1572 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:03,360 Speaker 1: I think it's both. I think I think the response 1573 01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,680 Speaker 1: should be right. I've always said digital education is a 1574 01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,599 Speaker 1: new Harvard People don't always like my takes on education though, 1575 01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,120 Speaker 1: but it is what it is. Like right now on TikTok, 1576 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,040 Speaker 1: there's like they got this thing called human Hellman Talk 1577 01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,599 Speaker 1: right where essentially a bunch of professors are signed up 1578 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,559 Speaker 1: to teach one on one classes, right like history one 1579 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,680 Speaker 1: on one, a Black history one on one, a financial 1580 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,600 Speaker 1: what's the problem with doing that? What's the problem with 1581 01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,760 Speaker 1: taking the responsibility in educating ourselves? Because they never go 1582 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,880 Speaker 1: teach you certain things anyway. The education system has not 1583 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:38,280 Speaker 1: been the one that created the prideful black American. It 1584 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,400 Speaker 1: hasn't created you know. And number one, depending on where 1585 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,519 Speaker 1: you live at right there's not even enough finances for 1586 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,080 Speaker 1: you to get a proper and good education. They're creating memorization. 1587 01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:50,360 Speaker 2: That's really all it is. Because now you have to 1588 01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 2: just pass the task. 1589 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:52,880 Speaker 1: And that's not good enough for the world we live 1590 01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:53,360 Speaker 1: in no more. 1591 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:57,200 Speaker 2: And then there's no uh, there's no national implement implementation 1592 01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,879 Speaker 2: of you know, learning financial literacy. 1593 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't believe people care for it. I think they 1594 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,760 Speaker 1: think they do, or a lot of time people miss aligned. Right. 1595 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,880 Speaker 1: If that's the case, I would have had all kinds 1596 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,639 Speaker 1: of donors lined up to be like keys, how can 1597 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,200 Speaker 1: we amplify your platform. I ain't never had a black 1598 01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,720 Speaker 1: leader or organization ever come to me with any proposition whatsoever. 1599 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,960 Speaker 1: So to me, it gives me I got my relationship right? 1600 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,360 Speaker 1: Is a love and hate when that when something happens, 1601 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,960 Speaker 1: how don't we respond accordingly? It's because we keep begging 1602 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,840 Speaker 1: for somebody to save us, Like we ain't got no 1603 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,880 Speaker 1: power when they cut off the education pipeline, then how 1604 01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,920 Speaker 1: come we don't create a national organization to educate ourselves 1605 01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 1: and we identify teachers, philosophers and curriculum to figure out, 1606 01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,400 Speaker 1: all right, how do we have our own? No black 1607 01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,880 Speaker 1: child left behind? You feel me? Because education system don't 1608 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,080 Speaker 1: work for us anyway. We are at the least educated. 1609 01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,439 Speaker 1: We look at the health department, we're the most unhealthy 1610 01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,800 Speaker 1: and healthy and like we don't want radicals. That's the thing. 1611 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,519 Speaker 2: It's like, it's like that's the case for it it's like, well, guys, 1612 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,240 Speaker 2: we're kind of getting smoked in the education. 1613 01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 1: Look, I brun this textbook because it's a textbook we 1614 01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,400 Speaker 1: made when me and my brother Quaid code And as 1615 01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,760 Speaker 1: I was saying earlier, we had the free food, this 1616 01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,920 Speaker 1: is the new free food. I want to be able 1617 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 1: to get all of our knowledge in textbooks in every 1618 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,880 Speaker 1: black home right to where we have the knowledge and 1619 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,160 Speaker 1: skill sets to do for self. And no, now we 1620 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,040 Speaker 1: don't have no excuses. Now, we just need to sit 1621 01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,000 Speaker 1: down as a family and learn and then execute. Because 1622 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:20,840 Speaker 1: when you got the knowledge that's like in this book, 1623 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,120 Speaker 1: we can do it. So we got a nonprofit to 1624 01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,920 Speaker 1: where either we're able to sell these or we work 1625 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,360 Speaker 1: with people that will help us get them to people 1626 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,559 Speaker 1: for free. Right, whether it's university students, whether it's just 1627 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:35,320 Speaker 1: the average home. How do you get financial literacy inside 1628 01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,600 Speaker 1: the home because not even cent of our problems is 1629 01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:38,400 Speaker 1: based on money. 1630 01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:40,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's you know you said we're 1631 01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,719 Speaker 2: kind of I mean, we are a content society now, 1632 01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,719 Speaker 2: which is why it's dope, and you know, market mondays happens. 1633 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,439 Speaker 2: And then you've got guys like on your leisure where 1634 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:53,000 Speaker 2: crack under yourself, and it's like, there's really no excuse. 1635 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:53,879 Speaker 2: There's no excuse. 1636 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,599 Speaker 1: We just got to talk to people because. 1637 01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,479 Speaker 2: Maybe you don't want to read a textbook. Yeah, guess 1638 01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,120 Speaker 2: what all that shit is there? 1639 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:00,000 Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Like. 1640 01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,240 Speaker 2: I just set my mom because my mom's you know, older. 1641 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,639 Speaker 1: But the textbook is just not to cut you with. 1642 01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,720 Speaker 1: But the textbook is just to go along with your digital. 1643 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:10,639 Speaker 2: But it's like it's like at the end of the days, 1644 01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,599 Speaker 2: it's like, yo, how do we make sure that's why? 1645 01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:16,800 Speaker 1: How do we make sure we got no goddamn excuses 1646 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 1: and we can manage a process? Because let's say if 1647 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,840 Speaker 1: I say, okay, well everybody got the textbook, now you 1648 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:26,080 Speaker 1: join the class. Okay, turn the chapter forty two. You 1649 01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,519 Speaker 1: feel me? And then why you WoT to go over stocks? 1650 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,040 Speaker 1: And how to do or or why to invest in 1651 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,880 Speaker 1: bonds or how to dollar cost average and learn options 1652 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,760 Speaker 1: and exactly what's QQQ whatever it is this is. This 1653 01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:42,000 Speaker 1: is not a competition to anybody's program. This is complementary 1654 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:43,960 Speaker 1: to it. For sure, you feel me, And the goal 1655 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,360 Speaker 1: is why don't we just have solutions like this, Let's 1656 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:50,320 Speaker 1: get goddamn textbooks of our own history in every household 1657 01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,320 Speaker 1: and then have a digital component. 1658 01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,400 Speaker 2: You don't have to that you don't have to depend 1659 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:55,639 Speaker 2: on the education system. 1660 01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,599 Speaker 1: Well, what does college have the most? They have the 1661 01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,760 Speaker 1: network and the experience. So now we need to figure 1662 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,479 Speaker 1: out how do we create those experiences because fifty percent, 1663 01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,880 Speaker 1: according to Robert Smith, fifty percent of Black wealth goes 1664 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,439 Speaker 1: towards college debt. Right, so we spend so much money 1665 01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,720 Speaker 1: getting an education as outdated that we can't even utilize 1666 01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,080 Speaker 1: to get ourselves ahead, which is dangerous. I want to 1667 01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,840 Speaker 1: figure out how we can be more efficient. Because he 1668 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:24,240 Speaker 1: gave all that money to the HBCU. But my thing is, 1669 01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:28,639 Speaker 1: was all of those college students actually learning skill sets 1670 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,280 Speaker 1: that can help you nation build, that are actually going 1671 01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,559 Speaker 1: to be valuable in the future. Because I would rather 1672 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,120 Speaker 1: incentivize and say at that time every student who's learning 1673 01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,160 Speaker 1: engineering and AI and data analysts, so that in the 1674 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,680 Speaker 1: future you have a large group of students that do 1675 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,679 Speaker 1: have no debt and they're getting the most important jobs 1676 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:49,080 Speaker 1: in the country. Right, That to me is strategic thinking, 1677 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,920 Speaker 1: not just paying off the debt. But how do we 1678 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,320 Speaker 1: incentivize and say we need more engineers? Right? We need 1679 01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,320 Speaker 1: to have our own category of people so that we 1680 01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,880 Speaker 1: have everything that we need and then how do we 1681 01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,080 Speaker 1: figure out how to educate that group in that class, 1682 01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:04,920 Speaker 1: because I don't need you to just walk across the stage. 1683 01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,959 Speaker 1: We need the people with the right valuable skills. 1684 01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that, like you said, the experience is more. 1685 01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:16,960 Speaker 2: It's like more about that or the societal acceptance of well, 1686 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,040 Speaker 2: I got a degree. Yeah, not to say that it's 1687 01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:20,640 Speaker 2: a bad thing to get a degree, but it's like 1688 01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,760 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, like you said, there's 1689 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,920 Speaker 2: no boundaries to like, then you. 1690 01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,400 Speaker 1: Got to stop with anations. Free education is direct correlated 1691 01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,800 Speaker 1: to of course how much money you make. Right, there 1692 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,880 Speaker 1: is a direct correlation. But we have to understand also 1693 01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,680 Speaker 1: now it's a non traditional education that you can get 1694 01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,320 Speaker 1: as well, and we have to recognize that. And a 1695 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,280 Speaker 1: lot of times we use those as like badges, right 1696 01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,639 Speaker 1: against somebody that we consider to not be educated. It's 1697 01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,599 Speaker 1: just these fraternities. I went to this school, you didn't 1698 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 1: go to school. I'm better than you. But it couldn't 1699 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,120 Speaker 1: be true because I didn't finish college, right, and I 1700 01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,200 Speaker 1: make more money nine nine percent people who did. So 1701 01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,280 Speaker 1: what makes me special? Right, It's the fact that I 1702 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,000 Speaker 1: decided to educate myself. I think education is a lifelong 1703 01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,160 Speaker 1: journey for sure. Right to go to school and learn chat, 1704 01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:09,360 Speaker 1: GPT and deep seek and how to create AI agents 1705 01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,960 Speaker 1: right now. I mean you could take somebody's course on it. 1706 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,840 Speaker 1: But the biggest thing is what we missing is just 1707 01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:18,400 Speaker 1: discipline to manage ourselves through the process. Yep, that's what 1708 01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:19,240 Speaker 1: it really comes down. 1709 01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,960 Speaker 2: One of my favorite I was fucking with RFK tough 1710 01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:26,200 Speaker 2: when he was running his third party campaign because I 1711 01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,920 Speaker 2: just liked his perspective on a lot of things. You 1712 01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:35,240 Speaker 2: had my favorite interview with him. I appreciate it. It was dope. 1713 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,320 Speaker 2: It was I think it was like three hours. It 1714 01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:42,720 Speaker 2: was really long. I saw you just tweet yesterday the 1715 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:46,120 Speaker 2: day before you treated make America healthy again. I fuck 1716 01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,800 Speaker 2: with RFK, what are your thoughts on because I look 1717 01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,479 Speaker 2: at the Trump thing is like you got to kind 1718 01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,320 Speaker 2: of like R take the wins and it's like, well, 1719 01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,519 Speaker 2: if RFK is the you know, like I feel like 1720 01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,920 Speaker 2: he's a genuine guy. He's a very interesting guy. He's 1721 01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,840 Speaker 2: had an interesting past. But you sat with him for 1722 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,720 Speaker 2: a while, like, what are your thoughts on him? And 1723 01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,280 Speaker 2: being a part of I guess kind of making that decision. 1724 01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,720 Speaker 1: I think what he it's very interesting. I think his 1725 01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,160 Speaker 1: goal was strategically put himself in position to leverage that 1726 01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,240 Speaker 1: influence that he had as he was creating a base 1727 01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:20,960 Speaker 1: while he was running for president, whether he was going 1728 01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:22,600 Speaker 1: to talk to Kamala or whether he was going to 1729 01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:23,320 Speaker 1: be talking. 1730 01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:26,400 Speaker 2: To Trump, and Kamala I think declined, Yeah. 1731 01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,240 Speaker 1: And he declined. I believe Trump had been asking him 1732 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,519 Speaker 1: before to come with him, and I believe he was 1733 01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,960 Speaker 1: declining at the time, and then he realized that, Okay, well, 1734 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,960 Speaker 1: if the Democrats are not gonna have me at all, 1735 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:38,240 Speaker 1: they're not even gonna speak to me. 1736 01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,120 Speaker 2: I mean. And they were actively weaponizing like everything they 1737 01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:42,120 Speaker 2: could against him. 1738 01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, And when we sit down, it's interesting because again 1739 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,760 Speaker 1: going back to the high level conversations, society is not 1740 01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:54,560 Speaker 1: used to critical thinking and independent thinking, so they weaponized 1741 01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,880 Speaker 1: statements that he said. Right, And when you go look 1742 01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:59,880 Speaker 1: at a lot of those people in Congress, and those 1743 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,760 Speaker 1: politicians would speak of course they're funded by big pharma, right. 1744 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,680 Speaker 1: And if America is a very unhealthy place already, you 1745 01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,880 Speaker 1: will want radical change. The last person they had in 1746 01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,760 Speaker 1: there doesn't look like somebody who should be held in 1747 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:16,519 Speaker 1: a health department whatsoever. I think you should number one, 1748 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,120 Speaker 1: have to be healthy to run a health department. 1749 01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:19,320 Speaker 2: Fair enough. 1750 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,800 Speaker 1: That's a that's a key because it was the trend. Yeah, 1751 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,600 Speaker 1: the d I don't know what it was, but it was. 1752 01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,120 Speaker 1: It was. It was a transformer. Without shay Luba, it 1753 01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,439 Speaker 1: was different. And I think that the goal should be, 1754 01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,080 Speaker 1: how do we disrupt this industry? Big Farmer got so 1755 01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,559 Speaker 1: much power and they in so many people pockets that 1756 01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,880 Speaker 1: these politicians can't think for theirselfs if they wanted to. 1757 01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,720 Speaker 1: They puppets the things that they were talking about against them. 1758 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:45,600 Speaker 1: You know, Robert F. Kennedy met with the nation in 1759 01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,680 Speaker 1: Islam and he gave high praises an honorable minister a 1760 01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,759 Speaker 1: little far come, which is a rare thing. Right, most 1761 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,479 Speaker 1: black politicians would never even do that. Can you get 1762 01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:57,280 Speaker 1: some respect from me automatically? When you're working with the FBI, 1763 01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:02,439 Speaker 1: I mean not the FBI, FOI in Los Angeles, right 1764 01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:09,680 Speaker 1: to get information about the research behind these vaccines and 1765 01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,519 Speaker 1: what's possibly in them. Then of course there's just a 1766 01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:17,240 Speaker 1: research about all these artificial ingredients and chemicals that we intake. 1767 01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,120 Speaker 1: Then we have, of course, we are the most acceptable 1768 01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:25,200 Speaker 1: population black people. We have specifically, black men have the 1769 01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 1: highest number when it comes to cancer and heart disease 1770 01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:33,760 Speaker 1: and blood pressure and depression and suicide and all these things. 1771 01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:38,080 Speaker 1: So you should want to see a radical change first, right. 1772 01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,439 Speaker 1: That means there should be a war on these things. 1773 01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,200 Speaker 1: American people should be This is to me, the most 1774 01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:47,760 Speaker 1: important campaign out of all of them, right, make America healthy. Now. 1775 01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,320 Speaker 1: I think that I don't think that all of these 1776 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,840 Speaker 1: departments are truly aligned. And want, of course Robert F. 1777 01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,680 Speaker 1: Kennedy to be in there, because it would be the 1778 01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:57,120 Speaker 1: most radical thing that comes over for sure. It just 1779 01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,639 Speaker 1: reps the hell out the money. Yes, but he said 1780 01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,559 Speaker 1: some things that black people have been saying for a 1781 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:05,240 Speaker 1: long time. He said that our immune systems are better now. 1782 01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,720 Speaker 1: This is what we like to always believe anyway. But 1783 01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,040 Speaker 1: it was funny because that became the hot topic, like 1784 01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,800 Speaker 1: this man lost his mind. But he was citing a 1785 01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:16,599 Speaker 1: study from Poland. And Poland does more studies than most places. 1786 01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,160 Speaker 1: I think they like number eighth in the world. But 1787 01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:21,320 Speaker 1: the funny thing is people will say, well, ninety nine 1788 01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,400 Speaker 1: percent of our genome is the same, but it's the 1789 01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,080 Speaker 1: zero point one percent that is a lot, right, it 1790 01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,519 Speaker 1: goes from bone dincity, it goes to a fast twitch 1791 01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:33,599 Speaker 1: muscle response you feel me. It even goes to our 1792 01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:36,840 Speaker 1: response to medications and things of that nature. So there's 1793 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:38,479 Speaker 1: a lot of truth to what he was saying as 1794 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:42,160 Speaker 1: far as our immune system, our neuromelanin, our melanin. So 1795 01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,600 Speaker 1: I would like to see scientists refute him, not politicians. 1796 01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing, is like it felt more of 1797 01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,280 Speaker 2: like a you know, especially like when I saw the 1798 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,920 Speaker 2: Bernie thing, because I love Bernie. You know, Bernie's burning. 1799 01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,599 Speaker 1: Somebody call Bernie be capping to Bernie be fakan. 1800 01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:59,960 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I would say the last four you 1801 01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,719 Speaker 2: have been disappointing with some of his voting sides. 1802 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:06,600 Speaker 1: But in terms of like Bernie is definitely on the 1803 01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:12,160 Speaker 1: Zionist side too, the RFK side, right, It's like he 1804 01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:13,680 Speaker 1: is for sure. I asked him about that. 1805 01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:19,640 Speaker 2: Yes, oh man, But it was interesting to see that confirmation. 1806 01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:24,280 Speaker 2: And I'm like, yo, like, y'all are really just barking 1807 01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:28,240 Speaker 2: down on this full despite you guys, not like you 1808 01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:32,599 Speaker 2: guys are like like democrats should be in theory aligned 1809 01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,880 Speaker 2: with most of the things he says, but he's on 1810 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:35,599 Speaker 2: the other side. 1811 01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:41,880 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, well we'll see. Is I think they don't 1812 01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,360 Speaker 1: care about the American people. They care about winning this 1813 01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,000 Speaker 1: war of power. Yeah. Right, So even if the Trump 1814 01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,720 Speaker 1: did something they agree with, they'll never ever, ever will 1815 01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:51,880 Speaker 1: tell you. And this is my problem with both sides. 1816 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:53,840 Speaker 1: When Trump does something, I don't care if you are 1817 01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,160 Speaker 1: in the Maga colt. If he does something you don't 1818 01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,880 Speaker 1: agree with and you can't speak out right, that makes 1819 01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,639 Speaker 1: you a slave yep, makes you weak mind us. Right. 1820 01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,280 Speaker 1: I respect those that say I voted for the guy, 1821 01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,200 Speaker 1: but I don't respect what he did with this right 1822 01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:08,960 Speaker 1: they And that's where you see the noise of a 1823 01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:13,160 Speaker 1: person that can actually think. But beyond that, that's dangerous. 1824 01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,479 Speaker 1: You feel me and it's weak minded. So I don't 1825 01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:18,080 Speaker 1: care if you're a Republican or Democrat. If you can't 1826 01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 1: point out good when it's good or bad when. 1827 01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:23,240 Speaker 2: It's bad, that you're a cult member. 1828 01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:25,639 Speaker 1: And when Donald Trump comes out there and say stuff 1829 01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,680 Speaker 1: like it's DEI and what you want me to do? 1830 01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:30,679 Speaker 1: Swim in the water. And when we talk about meeting 1831 01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,639 Speaker 1: with the people the crash site is what it really 1832 01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,960 Speaker 1: does is it makes people less empathetic. See, a good 1833 01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:42,080 Speaker 1: leader makes people more human, right, you do those things 1834 01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:44,559 Speaker 1: not because you want to, not even for the logic 1835 01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,559 Speaker 1: of it. It's so that you exemple our humanity. So 1836 01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,280 Speaker 1: we treat each other with that same respect and dignity 1837 01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,439 Speaker 1: and honor and empathy as well. And so this is 1838 01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:55,920 Speaker 1: what I'm seeing in leadership. I'm seeing a lack of that, 1839 01:27:56,080 --> 01:28:02,360 Speaker 1: completely pushing contempt and conflict amongst their basis, which is 1840 01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:03,880 Speaker 1: exciting more civil war. 1841 01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, like the lack of well, the actually is not 1842 01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:11,960 Speaker 2: even a lack. There was zero, zero Palestinian representation at 1843 01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:15,040 Speaker 2: the DNC, which that believe it was four days and 1844 01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:19,400 Speaker 2: it was like, like you said, empathy, humanity, It's like, 1845 01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,479 Speaker 2: how is there Like, well. 1846 01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,559 Speaker 1: You know, all of the activists they decided to be 1847 01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,200 Speaker 1: quiet during the campaign of Kamala Harris because they believe 1848 01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,040 Speaker 1: she was gonna get in there and possibly do something, 1849 01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,240 Speaker 1: even though you know her husband is Jewish. I don't 1850 01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,639 Speaker 1: see she was gonna do anything. She constantly said, I'm 1851 01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,040 Speaker 1: not changing nothing, no matter who's gonna be president. 1852 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:35,600 Speaker 2: Now, what's that? 1853 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,120 Speaker 1: What they did is you can't be revolutionary in one moment, 1854 01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,439 Speaker 1: but now I'm political right now, I'm not gonna say 1855 01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:44,240 Speaker 1: nothing if you can't hold feet to the fire of 1856 01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,400 Speaker 1: the person because the way you vote radically is that 1857 01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,519 Speaker 1: you put the person that you were more equipped to 1858 01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:54,280 Speaker 1: fight in office right, and then once they get in office, 1859 01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:57,439 Speaker 1: you fight them right to keep their promise to you. 1860 01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,680 Speaker 1: And people forget that relationship with politicians. So if you 1861 01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,400 Speaker 1: voted for Donald Trump, it doesn't mean you now bowed 1862 01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,800 Speaker 1: down to him. You now have to fight him to 1863 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,760 Speaker 1: keep his promises that you were aligned with when he ran. 1864 01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,920 Speaker 1: And that is the regardless of what kind of leadership, 1865 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,360 Speaker 1: whether it was Kamala or him, it would have been 1866 01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:18,559 Speaker 1: the same fight to keep that politician aligned with the 1867 01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,640 Speaker 1: things that you aligned with or the people have to 1868 01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:22,599 Speaker 1: have it or else. 1869 01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,760 Speaker 2: Do you think there would have been a I'll call 1870 01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:31,360 Speaker 2: it a for face value cease fire if Kamala would 1871 01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:31,559 Speaker 2: have won. 1872 01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:33,760 Speaker 1: Nah, I don't even think she would have tried to 1873 01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,080 Speaker 1: really push for one, and I don't think people would 1874 01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:38,280 Speaker 1: have cared. You know what I'm saying. Trump is the 1875 01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,719 Speaker 1: person that tries to prove out his power and leadership, 1876 01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,040 Speaker 1: but then he makes deals behind the scenes. He talking 1877 01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:44,920 Speaker 1: about pushing him over to Egypt, even if not gonna 1878 01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:45,479 Speaker 1: have the people. 1879 01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:47,479 Speaker 2: That's the new ship. Yeah, that's the new shit. And 1880 01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:49,120 Speaker 2: then we said today then at that. 1881 01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:51,599 Speaker 1: As a beachfront property that they can go clear out 1882 01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:52,160 Speaker 1: and take. 1883 01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:54,080 Speaker 2: Over and put Trump Tower. I mean even today he 1884 01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:58,879 Speaker 2: said something about they said that if Natan y'aho violates 1885 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,200 Speaker 2: the ceasefire, there won't be tariff's on Israel because he's 1886 01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:02,360 Speaker 2: got to do what he's got to do. And to me, 1887 01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,160 Speaker 2: it's like, I mean that just kind of that. 1888 01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,479 Speaker 1: Gives you no reason. That means there's not a real 1889 01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:07,000 Speaker 1: cease fire. 1890 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,320 Speaker 2: It's not real, no consequence because if it was a 1891 01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:11,120 Speaker 2: real ceasefire to be consequences on both sides. 1892 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,559 Speaker 1: That means there's a negotiation to go along. Just make 1893 01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:17,120 Speaker 1: me seem like I got the power so that I 1894 01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:20,840 Speaker 1: can leverage this period of time right until y'all decide 1895 01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,439 Speaker 1: y'all want to fire back and take over, right so 1896 01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:25,960 Speaker 1: I can show stability and control as a powerful leader. 1897 01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,759 Speaker 1: It's the same thing with TikTok. You can't download TikTok 1898 01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:32,720 Speaker 1: because it's still banned, right, But in lou you're going 1899 01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:35,000 Speaker 1: to do this negotiation to try to figure out which 1900 01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,559 Speaker 1: American country, I mean company can get controlled. So what 1901 01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,120 Speaker 1: I need y'all to do is shut it down for 1902 01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:43,479 Speaker 1: a day and then thank me for negotiating when you open. 1903 01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:45,360 Speaker 2: The line gets his name. 1904 01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all strategy. He played it. He's a negotiator. 1905 01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:50,240 Speaker 1: He is a businessman. He know how to play the game. 1906 01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,599 Speaker 2: He is a master manipulator of that. 1907 01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:57,479 Speaker 1: Every politician is. That's the whole thing. And I just 1908 01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:00,840 Speaker 1: try to understand is why does the average person think 1909 01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:07,080 Speaker 1: that billionaires, right, and these huge tech elites have their 1910 01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:11,200 Speaker 1: best interest at heart when historically you never believe that. Ever, 1911 01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,240 Speaker 1: that's always been a fight. And if you're a so 1912 01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,559 Speaker 1: called patriot of this country, your job would be to 1913 01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,320 Speaker 1: keep them aligned. Your job would be to keep them 1914 01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:24,080 Speaker 1: aligned with the so called constitution. Your job would be 1915 01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:28,120 Speaker 1: to keep the people in line with the threat of 1916 01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:32,559 Speaker 1: revolt that if you all don't put this country first 1917 01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:36,840 Speaker 1: and put the freedoms of the people first, not to 1918 01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:40,160 Speaker 1: push the vision amongst the people. If you push the vision, 1919 01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:43,800 Speaker 1: you're a terrible leader, full stop. Right. Elon Musk goes 1920 01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,960 Speaker 1: on his platform every single day and push the vision. 1921 01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he does it in this dog whistle way 1922 01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:50,200 Speaker 2: where he'll reply to a tweet. 1923 01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:54,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's very three posted you saying it yes, 1924 01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,120 Speaker 1: you can't hide by somebody else repost. You say it, 1925 01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:01,000 Speaker 1: because then to me, that's cowardly. If you're the richest 1926 01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,200 Speaker 1: man in the world, so call league, and you have 1927 01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:06,280 Speaker 1: one of the most powerful platforms in the world, just 1928 01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:09,599 Speaker 1: say it. But what it does is it's a whistle 1929 01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,600 Speaker 1: to a base of people, right that do think like 1930 01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:15,439 Speaker 1: that one hundred percent. You're telling them that, yeah, I'm 1931 01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,600 Speaker 1: with you German, Germany, is time for your to be 1932 01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:20,920 Speaker 1: great again. You know what I'm saying. America's time to 1933 01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:23,439 Speaker 1: be great again. South Africa, it's time for be great again. 1934 01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,120 Speaker 1: You're talking to these people. What are you doing? You 1935 01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:31,160 Speaker 1: igniting a national white base right to say that we 1936 01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:33,799 Speaker 1: have to rally together because it's about to be dangerous 1937 01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:37,040 Speaker 1: times to us. It is a signal around the world. 1938 01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:41,080 Speaker 1: If you can't obviously see that, right, you will see 1939 01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:43,479 Speaker 1: it very soon. It's gonna be very hard for you 1940 01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:47,880 Speaker 1: to defend right the people that you defend now, it's 1941 01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:50,599 Speaker 1: gonna be blatantly obvious and the only thing that's gonna 1942 01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:51,040 Speaker 1: stop them. 1943 01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:53,439 Speaker 2: Do you think that his salute was the Nazi salute 1944 01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,599 Speaker 2: on purpose? You think he cognitively did that on purpose? 1945 01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:59,400 Speaker 1: Man, the one thing about me is I got excellent vision. 1946 01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:02,120 Speaker 1: You know, I can see with my eyes in my mind, 1947 01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,360 Speaker 1: I don't need nobody to interpret nothing from me. I'll 1948 01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,000 Speaker 1: be a goddamn fool. You know what I'm saying. If 1949 01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:09,880 Speaker 1: you walk in the room, you see a girl kiss 1950 01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,200 Speaker 1: another dude and she said, no, I wasn't kissing him. 1951 01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,200 Speaker 1: You know how bird Man saw you wasn't kissing Wayne 1952 01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:17,479 Speaker 1: disrespect We Oh, well, we ain't just see that. I 1953 01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,080 Speaker 1: saw what I saw. The most dangerous thing is somebody 1954 01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:23,240 Speaker 1: tell you didn't see what you saw, right, And I 1955 01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:26,640 Speaker 1: think that you have to think about it from that standpoint. 1956 01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:30,240 Speaker 1: You saw it with clear evidence, right, But they have 1957 01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,679 Speaker 1: the ability to tell you what you see with your eyes, 1958 01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,120 Speaker 1: what you hear, what you sense is not real. So 1959 01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:38,720 Speaker 1: now you can't trust yourself. Now you have to wait 1960 01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:42,439 Speaker 1: for somebody else to interpret reality for you, right, And 1961 01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:46,439 Speaker 1: you're gonna make excuse for everything. It's funny. I seen 1962 01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:51,599 Speaker 1: Andrew Schultz talking about this, and he was explaining how 1963 01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:54,439 Speaker 1: it would have been better if he would have just 1964 01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:59,160 Speaker 1: apologized for it essentially versus act like it didn't happen, right, 1965 01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:03,760 Speaker 1: And I've seen other people say the same thing and 1966 01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:05,080 Speaker 1: Eli has yet to do that. 1967 01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:08,400 Speaker 2: Because even could just say, hey, this is what it was. 1968 01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:12,200 Speaker 2: I was in that moment, I have crazy hand gestures. Instead, 1969 01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:15,000 Speaker 2: he kind of like on Twitter, he'll retweet like he retweeted, 1970 01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:18,240 Speaker 2: I think Kamla did something at the fire or anything 1971 01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:19,080 Speaker 2: that looks like it. 1972 01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:22,200 Speaker 1: That's stupid. What they do is when something happens like that, 1973 01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,960 Speaker 1: they run a psychological program and put out certain words, 1974 01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:27,720 Speaker 1: like the word awkward. So then you will see every 1975 01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:30,280 Speaker 1: respondent and everybody that talks about it using a word 1976 01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,400 Speaker 1: it was an awkward thing. Why is everybody using the 1977 01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:37,040 Speaker 1: same exact script, right, It's a psychological programming, so that 1978 01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:39,639 Speaker 1: now instead of you're thinking of it as what you've seen, 1979 01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:41,920 Speaker 1: you say, oh, it was just awkward. He's just autistic 1980 01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:44,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden. He's on the spectrum when it 1981 01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:45,719 Speaker 1: comes to these things. 1982 01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:48,320 Speaker 2: No, it comes to being the richest man a lot. 1983 01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,519 Speaker 1: When if you can't stand on the stage and not 1984 01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,240 Speaker 1: do a Nazi salute because you autistic, that's a problem, 1985 01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:57,439 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So for me, I think 1986 01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:00,200 Speaker 1: that he's in too intelligent to not be intentional what 1987 01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:03,600 Speaker 1: he does. Right, if you have the biggest platform in 1988 01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:07,000 Speaker 1: the entire world. And another thing to Adl like, man, listen, 1989 01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:08,559 Speaker 1: we not even triple. This is the first time I've 1990 01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:10,880 Speaker 1: ever seen ad L job for somebody. 1991 01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:14,599 Speaker 2: Why they ran Kyrie through the year, through the Mud? 1992 01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,479 Speaker 1: But why because they know that we're going to get 1993 01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:22,799 Speaker 1: more by going along right and acting like you didn't 1994 01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:25,839 Speaker 1: see what you saw. It's better for us to explain 1995 01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,280 Speaker 1: it away. That's part of the Hitler program. You just 1996 01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:32,440 Speaker 1: explain it away, right, So they have the best psychological 1997 01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:35,400 Speaker 1: programs when it comes to controlling and manipulating the people. 1998 01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:38,120 Speaker 2: That's crazy because it's like you see, like apak ad L, 1999 01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:41,720 Speaker 2: like guys like Stephen Miller, like it's like just ignoring 2000 01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,679 Speaker 2: you know what they their core value don't. 2001 01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:47,720 Speaker 1: Lie with their agenda. Right, If they're going to get 2002 01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:50,320 Speaker 1: more by them having a president and they got Elon 2003 01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:52,120 Speaker 1: who will be running point on a lot of the 2004 01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,920 Speaker 1: plans they got going on, then why won't we attack 2005 01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,360 Speaker 1: him when we need him to stay this credible person 2006 01:35:57,400 --> 01:35:59,559 Speaker 1: in the media because he's going to do so much 2007 01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:02,400 Speaker 1: for Israel. So it would make suse that they had 2008 01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,000 Speaker 1: called their people and be like, yeah. 2009 01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,880 Speaker 2: Do you remember when he was critical of Israel? And 2010 01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:10,000 Speaker 2: then like a week later when what. 2011 01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:13,639 Speaker 1: They had them conversations, yea a visit. Do you remember 2012 01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:16,120 Speaker 1: did the visit and a lady when he went to 2013 01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,519 Speaker 1: go visit the lady said he was completely unempathetic. He 2014 01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:20,680 Speaker 1: didn't care, he wasn't paying attention, and he was just like, 2015 01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:22,040 Speaker 1: let's just get this business over with. 2016 01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:26,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing is even recently, I want to say, 2017 01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:29,519 Speaker 2: last week he replied to something that was Listen. 2018 01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:31,640 Speaker 1: I know behind the scenes they don't get along. But 2019 01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,960 Speaker 1: he's an elite, right, people like Elon Musk and other 2020 01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:39,400 Speaker 1: elits like that. What drives him is power, right purely, 2021 01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:42,160 Speaker 1: It's power, nothing else, So you can't understand it when 2022 01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:44,560 Speaker 1: you're trying to look at it from any other standpoint. 2023 01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:46,880 Speaker 1: It's just power. If I can get more power and 2024 01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,920 Speaker 1: more power and more power, it's a drug. So at 2025 01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:51,920 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I don't care about human 2026 01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:55,120 Speaker 1: beings and casualties, right, I don't care about morality or 2027 01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:58,559 Speaker 1: nothing else. It's power. How can I get more power? 2028 01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:01,439 Speaker 1: And for him, he is in a perfect position to 2029 01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:04,040 Speaker 1: just wield that power however he wants to. 2030 01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:08,000 Speaker 2: He's the richest man alive and now he has governmental power. 2031 01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:09,479 Speaker 2: Like the dose. Thing is a real thing. 2032 01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Department of Governing Efficiency is very interesting. But 2033 01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:16,040 Speaker 1: the way I look at things in a nuance, I'm like, 2034 01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:21,640 Speaker 1: first of all, the government is very inefficient, the bureaucracy, 2035 01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:26,920 Speaker 1: and then to the culture, I relate that to Black America. 2036 01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:30,120 Speaker 1: We need our own department of government efficiency. We need 2037 01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:33,080 Speaker 1: to defund certain people that so called represent us but 2038 01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:35,640 Speaker 1: never get any impact of change, and we need to 2039 01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:39,120 Speaker 1: divert those efforts, attention and money to people that are impactful, 2040 01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:41,160 Speaker 1: and we will see the world change right in the 2041 01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:42,519 Speaker 1: next first one hundred days. 2042 01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:44,479 Speaker 2: Well, I think you know, we talked about it a 2043 01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,280 Speaker 2: little bit earlier. A lot of the people that you're 2044 01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:50,439 Speaker 2: probably thinking of got big houses. Oh yeah, they got 2045 01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,880 Speaker 2: big bills, been living real nicely off of the plight 2046 01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:57,120 Speaker 2: for years and years and years, and whether it's hanging 2047 01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,240 Speaker 2: out at a costco bro. 2048 01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:02,760 Speaker 1: The our sharp era is over, the civil rights era 2049 01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,040 Speaker 1: is over. And what I mean by that is there's 2050 01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:09,080 Speaker 1: no disrespect to those who lay real foundational efforts right 2051 01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,599 Speaker 1: to make progress that had it really in their heart. 2052 01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:15,280 Speaker 1: And I believe that it's not just one of the other. 2053 01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:17,879 Speaker 1: Now we get to kind of look at the progress 2054 01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:21,280 Speaker 1: that our ancestors fought for. And we also get to 2055 01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:25,040 Speaker 1: think about what else our ancestors died for, because we 2056 01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,680 Speaker 1: act like the voting is the only thing they died for, right, 2057 01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:32,160 Speaker 1: and know they died for our economic power. Right, they 2058 01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:34,799 Speaker 1: die for our family power, They died for our pride 2059 01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:37,720 Speaker 1: with them selves. They die for our political power. Right. 2060 01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,280 Speaker 1: They died for multiple things for us to know who 2061 01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:44,400 Speaker 1: we are. But we push the political voting power anytime. 2062 01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:46,519 Speaker 1: We evoke our ancestors. And it's time for us to 2063 01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,760 Speaker 1: resurrect different ancestors now and move on them because the 2064 01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,320 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King ain't gonna get us through this time. Right. 2065 01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:58,479 Speaker 1: Just think about if we evoke the thebo Elijah Muhammad 2066 01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:02,599 Speaker 1: and the Marcus Garvey as the main ancestors right that 2067 01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,760 Speaker 1: we want to resurrect in our activities, we changed the 2068 01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:08,840 Speaker 1: world overnight. There was a silent protest. I think it 2069 01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:11,280 Speaker 1: was nineteen or seventeen or something like that. It was 2070 01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:15,360 Speaker 1: the first political protests in this country. And what they 2071 01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:17,519 Speaker 1: was doing is they were holding up signs. One of 2072 01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:20,519 Speaker 1: the signs was about we got one hundred million acres 2073 01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:22,879 Speaker 1: of land? Is something like that work? One hundred thousand 2074 01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:25,800 Speaker 1: acres of land? I forgot how much it was, but 2075 01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,400 Speaker 1: it was like, it's worth one hundred million dollars. And 2076 01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:31,920 Speaker 1: then they had this long list of all of the 2077 01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:35,280 Speaker 1: different careers and the amount of people that they had 2078 01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:40,439 Speaker 1: in each one, right from brick mason layers to nurses, right. 2079 01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:43,479 Speaker 1: And they went out there to protest because at the 2080 01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:45,519 Speaker 1: time there was an incident where there was some killings 2081 01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:48,679 Speaker 1: in East Saint Louis, I believe, and the protest wasn't 2082 01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:52,400 Speaker 1: less shout. The protest is like saying to this government, 2083 01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:56,120 Speaker 1: we've never participated in trying to assassinate the president. We 2084 01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,439 Speaker 1: were the first ones to shed blood for this country 2085 01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:01,000 Speaker 1: in the war. Right, we've done our part and we've 2086 01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:03,120 Speaker 1: been doing our part, and we're not asking for nothing. 2087 01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:04,960 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it is the government job 2088 01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:09,240 Speaker 1: to provide opportunity for citizens. But the message I seen 2089 01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:12,799 Speaker 1: was towards each other. We don't need to say nothing. Well, really, 2090 01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:15,640 Speaker 1: this is what we need to do. If we have 2091 01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:18,840 Speaker 1: ten thousand nurses, we got our own hospitals. If we 2092 01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,960 Speaker 1: have people that are in electrical and engineering and architecture 2093 01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,960 Speaker 1: and entrepreneur fields, we can build our own cities. Right, 2094 01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,280 Speaker 1: we not go cry to them and say save me. 2095 01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:32,560 Speaker 1: The message was let's save ourselves, and if we responded 2096 01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:35,920 Speaker 1: like that each and every time, we would win because 2097 01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:38,879 Speaker 1: it will force us to become closer and closer and closer. 2098 01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:41,880 Speaker 1: And so the mindset that we need to have is 2099 01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:45,799 Speaker 1: a mindset of resilience. And there's no more resilient people 2100 01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:50,120 Speaker 1: than Black Americans, never have ever been, because the way 2101 01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,840 Speaker 1: that we respond to things and resilience is the ability 2102 01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:54,840 Speaker 1: for to get bent out of shape and get back 2103 01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:58,519 Speaker 1: into it right. So we're always taken out of our nature. 2104 01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:00,200 Speaker 1: You might be made of slaves and you get back 2105 01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:03,000 Speaker 1: to a warrior. You feel me. We might have to 2106 01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:06,320 Speaker 1: go through crack eras and go through the creation of 2107 01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:08,920 Speaker 1: ghettos in America and black codes, but then we always 2108 01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:12,320 Speaker 1: get back to it. Black men specifically are the biggest 2109 01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:16,479 Speaker 1: social activists and health advocates right in this country. We 2110 01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:18,880 Speaker 1: get back to it each and every time. But they 2111 01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:21,040 Speaker 1: try to paint it as if we'd just been failing 2112 01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:23,839 Speaker 1: and falling. No, we've been fighting and fighting and fighting, 2113 01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:27,439 Speaker 1: and we never stop fighting. That's resilience. We never stopped 2114 01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:30,479 Speaker 1: producing brilliance. If it wasn't no Elijah Muhammad, I wouldn't 2115 01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:32,280 Speaker 1: be here speaking to you today in a matter in 2116 01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:35,639 Speaker 1: which I do. Each generation gets back to this resilience 2117 01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:37,320 Speaker 1: and saying all right, let's get back focus, and let's 2118 01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:39,120 Speaker 1: get back to this money, let's get back to this power, 2119 01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,040 Speaker 1: Let's make our own music. Let's have our cultural revolution. 2120 01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:46,280 Speaker 1: Like damn if I went to Japan a few months 2121 01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:50,559 Speaker 1: ago and it's the greatest place to ever visited. Japan 2122 01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:54,680 Speaker 1: is essentially culturally where we want to be. They had 2123 01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:58,840 Speaker 1: a cultural revolution called bushido, right, and the bushido is 2124 01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:03,360 Speaker 1: the code of show Gun and the warrior class to 2125 01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:08,080 Speaker 1: samaraize in their writings on how they lived to not 2126 01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:09,960 Speaker 1: only know the art of war, but the art of 2127 01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:13,240 Speaker 1: piece right, and they learn how to live this balance. 2128 01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:16,559 Speaker 1: And if you read it, you go through this collection 2129 01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,320 Speaker 1: of these generals and warriors and the way they think 2130 01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:22,200 Speaker 1: about life right and talk about how this one word 2131 01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:25,400 Speaker 1: was he was stone cold killer, but then on his 2132 01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:28,280 Speaker 1: off time he was a gardener. Right. He understood how 2133 01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:31,160 Speaker 1: to take life and how to nurture life right. And 2134 01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:33,120 Speaker 1: in that he's seen this sense of balance on how 2135 01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:36,280 Speaker 1: to live. They give a breakdown of how to clean 2136 01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:39,040 Speaker 1: and why to clean that when you cleaning during the day, 2137 01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:41,559 Speaker 1: it's also you cleaning your mind and it allows you 2138 01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:44,439 Speaker 1: time to think. And then at night you don't clean, 2139 01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:47,120 Speaker 1: you just put things in place because it represents your 2140 01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:51,880 Speaker 1: mind getting and gathering yourself. And if you watch anime, 2141 01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:55,080 Speaker 1: all anime put bushido lessons in there so that it 2142 01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:58,280 Speaker 1: keeps and preserves the culture. But during that time of 2143 01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:00,760 Speaker 1: them producing that bushido for the people, they had to 2144 01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:04,320 Speaker 1: go through some economic stagnation because they had to sacrifice 2145 01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:08,720 Speaker 1: some capitalization for the ethics of it, all right, some morality. 2146 01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:11,720 Speaker 1: And now today when you go out there, and this 2147 01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:14,519 Speaker 1: is a good example. You know, if you've ever been 2148 01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:16,920 Speaker 1: late to work, and you worked a corporate job, right, 2149 01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,599 Speaker 1: and you can't find no parking if you late, because 2150 01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:21,760 Speaker 1: everybody don't park the course in the good spots. But 2151 01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:24,760 Speaker 1: in Japan there are certain practices where people will park 2152 01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:27,360 Speaker 1: farther away the earlier they come, so just in case 2153 01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:30,920 Speaker 1: somebody woke up late. Right. They have empathy for each 2154 01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:33,600 Speaker 1: other and understand, it's not me versus you. This is 2155 01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:37,040 Speaker 1: a cohesive harmony of people living in existence. And this 2156 01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:41,000 Speaker 1: is ancestral practice. This is us how do we coexist, 2157 01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:44,880 Speaker 1: not do how we compete with each other? So for me, 2158 01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:47,880 Speaker 1: we out of harmony with that, and we're going to 2159 01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:51,759 Speaker 1: go through continue to go through these crazy weather events. 2160 01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:54,320 Speaker 1: The hoppy people predicted it a long time ago that 2161 01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:57,320 Speaker 1: we were going to extract so much from the land, 2162 01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:02,400 Speaker 1: right that essentially nature will fight back. Right, These fires 2163 01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:06,559 Speaker 1: that can continue to happen this year because fire is cleansing, right. 2164 01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:08,599 Speaker 1: It needs to happen. It's going to have to happen 2165 01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:11,520 Speaker 1: because where we're going as a society is not sustainable. 2166 01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,639 Speaker 1: So the resilience in the mind of being and flow 2167 01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:17,479 Speaker 1: and instead of thinking of ourselves as a machine, how 2168 01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:20,960 Speaker 1: we just work more, How we start to become regenerative 2169 01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:24,720 Speaker 1: to where that which we put in produces more. So 2170 01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:29,160 Speaker 1: it's not just extraction extraction right for me, the whole 2171 01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:32,640 Speaker 1: thing is just getting back to indigenous ways, getting back 2172 01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:37,479 Speaker 1: to ancestral ways, but utilizing modern technology and resources to 2173 01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:40,080 Speaker 1: be way more efficient than they ever could during their time. 2174 01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:42,479 Speaker 1: How would you run a Malcolm X's play during this time? 2175 01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:45,360 Speaker 1: Why would you run the Aja Mohammed play during this time? Right? 2176 01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:47,920 Speaker 1: How would you run Madam C. J. Walker play during 2177 01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:53,160 Speaker 1: this time? Right? And I think the most dangerous prevaliant 2178 01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,679 Speaker 1: mindset is that we're so much capitalist but I don't 2179 01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:58,439 Speaker 1: think that's sustainable for us, right, I think we feel 2180 01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:01,559 Speaker 1: too much. Just be greedy. Cap If you are talking 2181 01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:03,439 Speaker 1: to my brother Keingan Beasley, he was talking about how 2182 01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:06,920 Speaker 1: if you go look at the average super elite rich person, 2183 01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:10,960 Speaker 1: they not happy. There is a karma that comes with 2184 01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:13,559 Speaker 1: that of just getting over on people, just getting more 2185 01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,479 Speaker 1: and more and more and more. They can't even sleep, 2186 01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:18,200 Speaker 1: they don't get a good night's rest. I don't think 2187 01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:21,800 Speaker 1: that that's sustainable for people who feel a lot, and 2188 01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:24,960 Speaker 1: we feel a lot. That's how we've been able to 2189 01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:28,479 Speaker 1: be taking advantage of historically having too much emotional empathy 2190 01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:31,880 Speaker 1: for others. So we have to be able to be 2191 01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:34,559 Speaker 1: in harmony with the technology and have dominion over it, 2192 01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,880 Speaker 1: not it controlling us. Because another single greatest threat to 2193 01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:43,759 Speaker 1: mental health is goddamn doom scrolling. You feel me like, man, 2194 01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:47,160 Speaker 1: you just find yourself down this whole of stimulation because 2195 01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:49,160 Speaker 1: that's what you're trying to do. So you can't focus 2196 01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:52,400 Speaker 1: because when you focus now, it's like this is too boring. 2197 01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:55,680 Speaker 1: But boring is another word for peaceful, right, So if 2198 01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:58,280 Speaker 1: you replace your vocabulary saying man, this is too peaceful, 2199 01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:00,080 Speaker 1: you will hear yourself self? The hell wrong with me? 2200 01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:03,600 Speaker 1: Why can't sit still? You feel me? Why can't I 2201 01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:06,439 Speaker 1: be in darkness for a minute and relax my mind? 2202 01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:10,519 Speaker 1: So therefore you want to have low stimulation and do 2203 01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:14,200 Speaker 1: low stimulation activities so it decreases your baseline, so you 2204 01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:18,040 Speaker 1: don't need these high right dopamine hits of constantly getting 2205 01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:22,360 Speaker 1: scrolling watching what's my next comment? What's the next thing happening? Now? 2206 01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:24,439 Speaker 1: You can't god damn focus on nothing. Now you're not 2207 01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:27,439 Speaker 1: excited about nothing. Now you got damn watching porn and 2208 01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:30,240 Speaker 1: you can't enjoy real women. You know what I'm talking about? 2209 01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:32,880 Speaker 1: The women hitting themselves with the roses. They don't care 2210 01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:35,080 Speaker 1: if you bring her rose. I'm talking about the flowers. 2211 01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:39,360 Speaker 1: They ain't stimulated by that. They need that electrical activity instead. Man, 2212 01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,960 Speaker 1: you supost that comes from Oakland. We'll say something potent 2213 01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:43,559 Speaker 1: to a woman and she'll live off that for a 2214 01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,080 Speaker 1: few days. Right, you know what I'm saying. Now she 2215 01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:49,400 Speaker 1: about to go watch justin little Boy quote and forget 2216 01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:52,080 Speaker 1: about you. You know what I'm saying, Like, we got 2217 01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:56,160 Speaker 1: to get back to slowing down, to speed up, right, 2218 01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:59,559 Speaker 1: And I think that it's not about unifying with everybody 2219 01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:02,640 Speaker 1: by finding your tribe right now, people who agree with 2220 01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:05,559 Speaker 1: the same value, same moral systems. We got to learn 2221 01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:08,559 Speaker 1: how to communicate to ourselves in the world right like 2222 01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:11,320 Speaker 1: part of the high level conversation booking things I'm putting 2223 01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:13,280 Speaker 1: together right now, I think the most thing that people 2224 01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:16,080 Speaker 1: ask me to teach him is how to communicate. Yeah, right, 2225 01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking about from celebrities to NBA players, to leaders 2226 01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:21,519 Speaker 1: to other speakers. They want to know how to hell 2227 01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:24,720 Speaker 1: do our communicate? So I started putting together this framework 2228 01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:27,720 Speaker 1: from a type one speaker to a type five and 2229 01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:30,360 Speaker 1: how to go from just being a memorizer of things 2230 01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:35,439 Speaker 1: to becoming an influential, passionate speaker. And men need to 2231 01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:37,160 Speaker 1: learn how to speak to women. Again, I ain't talking 2232 01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:39,160 Speaker 1: about the little fake ris y'all be doing you feel 2233 01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:41,760 Speaker 1: me with the little fake gang, because if you can 2234 01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:43,280 Speaker 1: get a woman to fall in love with you by 2235 01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:45,680 Speaker 1: being yourself, that's sustainable, you feel me. 2236 01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:47,679 Speaker 2: I just told this to my boy yesterday. He said 2237 01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:50,439 Speaker 2: he's going through with his girl or some girl he's 2238 01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:54,120 Speaker 2: talking to is just a psychopaths And I was like, 2239 01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:56,439 Speaker 2: this is the first girl he had. In a minute, 2240 01:47:56,600 --> 01:48:00,439 Speaker 2: He's you know, he's kind of lost some weight, swag 2241 01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:02,080 Speaker 2: a little going, and he got to, you know, he 2242 01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:04,840 Speaker 2: got a girl, and but this the first chick he's had. 2243 01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:07,120 Speaker 2: And I don't know, seven or eight years and I'm 2244 01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:10,280 Speaker 2: telling this guy, I'm like, hey, bro, this girl is 2245 01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:13,439 Speaker 2: like not good for you. Dog, she's a bad person. Yeah, 2246 01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:17,720 Speaker 2: but he said, he said, I just man like, I 2247 01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:19,720 Speaker 2: just don't got game like that. He almost like was 2248 01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:21,640 Speaker 2: talking like as if this was the only girl he 2249 01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:23,840 Speaker 2: could get. And I was like, the problem you're having, bro, 2250 01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:28,559 Speaker 2: is like you're approaching that as like having game as 2251 01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:31,800 Speaker 2: opposed to just being yourself and having a girl who 2252 01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:33,519 Speaker 2: just fucked with you for that. Dog. So now that 2253 01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:36,679 Speaker 2: you got physically in shape and you got some confidence, bro, 2254 01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:39,600 Speaker 2: just be yourself and the women will come full Like 2255 01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:42,519 Speaker 2: you ain't got to like settle for somebody who's gonna 2256 01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:44,759 Speaker 2: like be bad for your peace of mind. 2257 01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:46,679 Speaker 1: See, you know what happens with a lot of men 2258 01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:50,320 Speaker 1: is they they learn how to tap into the light side. 2259 01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:51,920 Speaker 1: Let me be a really good guy and try to 2260 01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:53,800 Speaker 1: get a woman. They don't know to talk into the 2261 01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:56,479 Speaker 1: dark side. Right, You feel me, When you don't need nobody, 2262 01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:59,400 Speaker 1: a woman wants you more, you feel me when you dangerous. 2263 01:48:59,479 --> 01:49:01,920 Speaker 1: She wants some feel like you can protect her. You 2264 01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,880 Speaker 1: feel me when you persuasive, and maybe I gotta focus 2265 01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:06,880 Speaker 1: on my goal, can't focus on you. You will provide her. 2266 01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:08,840 Speaker 1: You a man that is gonna get money. You feel 2267 01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:11,840 Speaker 1: me like you working out and things of that nature. Man, 2268 01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:15,160 Speaker 1: you position yourself again, going back to the bushido, to 2269 01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:16,920 Speaker 1: be a man who knows the art of piece and 2270 01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:19,479 Speaker 1: art of war. A woman ain't gonna fall in love 2271 01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:20,920 Speaker 1: with a man that just know the art of piece. 2272 01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:24,840 Speaker 1: Feel me because what she looks at is dark traits subconsciously. 2273 01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:26,760 Speaker 1: And this is what a lot of men don't realize. 2274 01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:29,400 Speaker 1: You could be a nice guy, look good, all of that, 2275 01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:31,559 Speaker 1: but then the other guy who got the dark trait, 2276 01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:34,080 Speaker 1: she's thinking more long term, he can actually protect me 2277 01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:36,599 Speaker 1: when I need to. Yes, and making a woman feel safe, 2278 01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:39,080 Speaker 1: it's number one on her list, you feel me. That's 2279 01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:41,760 Speaker 1: why they look for finances. It's safety in it. I 2280 01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:43,839 Speaker 1: don't want to goddamn be poor out in the streets 2281 01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:46,280 Speaker 1: selling it to somebody who don't need it. You feel 2282 01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:49,920 Speaker 1: me giving it away just because so there's a development 2283 01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:53,760 Speaker 1: of that masculine darkness and that masculine light and the 2284 01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:55,840 Speaker 1: problem is is that she usually seeks a man that 2285 01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:58,680 Speaker 1: has too much darkness or too much light. So when 2286 01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:00,760 Speaker 1: she find the nineteen keys in words, she said, that's 2287 01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:02,880 Speaker 1: just right, you know I'm talking about But I only 2288 01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:05,840 Speaker 1: exist right here. It ain't too many me in existence. 2289 01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:09,439 Speaker 1: So I want to teach the average man right how 2290 01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:12,000 Speaker 1: to tap into that darkness and that light so he 2291 01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:14,360 Speaker 1: can move with balance in the world. You feel me, 2292 01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:15,920 Speaker 1: And then every woman go, w ont you. 2293 01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:20,040 Speaker 2: Talk to me? What are your thoughts on? I don't 2294 01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:23,400 Speaker 2: know if it's actually gonna happen, But the declassification of 2295 01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:28,280 Speaker 2: the JFK assassination and the MLK assassinations, well, you. 2296 01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:31,280 Speaker 1: Know, I'm more interested in a Malcolm X's assassination for sure. 2297 01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:32,840 Speaker 1: That would have been that would have been a good 2298 01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:35,479 Speaker 1: one that I think that would be one that creates 2299 01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:38,160 Speaker 1: some cures in the black community and heals some divisions. 2300 01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:43,760 Speaker 1: But the Martin Luther King JFK, I mean, I look 2301 01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:46,519 Speaker 1: at it as part of Trump's plan to make people 2302 01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:52,000 Speaker 1: distrust the government more right and the democratic basis, which 2303 01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:55,360 Speaker 1: essentially gives him more power. Right, he goes after the FBI, 2304 01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:57,240 Speaker 1: he goes out to these groups. He paints them as 2305 01:50:57,240 --> 01:51:00,920 Speaker 1: the villains. He created his own new corporations or institutions 2306 01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:04,679 Speaker 1: or whatever. You trust them more everything that I see 2307 01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:07,640 Speaker 1: them do. I'm asking why, how is it gonna benefit you? 2308 01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:08,920 Speaker 2: Especially with him? 2309 01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you're doing something that make people distrust 2310 01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:15,280 Speaker 1: the government and you are the government, how does that 2311 01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:19,080 Speaker 1: benefit unless your goal is to have your own government essentially, 2312 01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:20,800 Speaker 1: or to be able to rule and say, why would 2313 01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:22,679 Speaker 1: you trust the FBI? Look what they did to JFK. 2314 01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:24,680 Speaker 1: Look what they did to Martin Luther King. 2315 01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:27,600 Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a huge wave of the 2316 01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:29,960 Speaker 2: privatization of a lot of the things that the CIA. 2317 01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:33,439 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, uh, we've seen it already. 2318 01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:35,240 Speaker 1: Obviously. Oh yeah, they've been on that already. 2319 01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:37,320 Speaker 2: That's the thing. But I think now it's like if you, 2320 01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:40,040 Speaker 2: if you, I mean like and the CIA and the 2321 01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:44,400 Speaker 2: FBI have been running unchecked rapidly for years. I mean 2322 01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:47,320 Speaker 2: a lot of the people who are being deported are 2323 01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:50,800 Speaker 2: coming from places that the United States government destabilized. 2324 01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:57,400 Speaker 1: FBI task forces created to watch Marcus Garvey that was 2325 01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,760 Speaker 1: created for like, our relationship is the worst for them. 2326 01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:02,720 Speaker 1: I don't trust none of the files that they actually have, 2327 01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:06,559 Speaker 1: especially the ones that they had on Martin Luther King 2328 01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:09,200 Speaker 1: when they was talking about his sexual habits and things 2329 01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:14,080 Speaker 1: of that nature. Because that nigga who is the head 2330 01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:20,160 Speaker 1: of the FBI, what's his name, not trum Hoover. His 2331 01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:24,719 Speaker 1: whole thing was to discredit black leaders. So I wouldn't 2332 01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:27,880 Speaker 1: be surprised if he makes up pure fiction right to 2333 01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:30,200 Speaker 1: talk shit about a man so that he can discredit 2334 01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:31,960 Speaker 1: him morally so that you don't listen to him. 2335 01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:34,479 Speaker 2: And how many honeypot operations they were just running on 2336 01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:36,160 Speaker 2: people just rapidly back then. 2337 01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:39,200 Speaker 1: Bro, because why wouldn't you publish that at that time? 2338 01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:42,040 Speaker 1: Because that'd be the biggest discrediting facts to the movement. 2339 01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:47,880 Speaker 1: So I also would caution people that believing that the 2340 01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:50,920 Speaker 1: truth is gonna come from the people whose job is 2341 01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:55,600 Speaker 1: to spread misinformation, it's dangerous facts. So it's one of 2342 01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:57,439 Speaker 1: those things is yes, we've been waiting for him and 2343 01:52:57,520 --> 01:52:59,240 Speaker 1: we feel like they're a holy girl because they never 2344 01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:00,840 Speaker 1: gave it to us. That don't mean that they're going 2345 01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:01,840 Speaker 1: to give us the truth. 2346 01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:06,160 Speaker 2: Fact. I mean, I think for me it's like will 2347 01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:13,600 Speaker 2: it is everybody involved dead? Because I feel like that's probably. 2348 01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:17,839 Speaker 1: Probably say that was them, not USU CIA. 2349 01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:19,200 Speaker 2: It's a new FBI, right, and. 2350 01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:21,960 Speaker 1: These are just the organizations that we know about. I 2351 01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:23,720 Speaker 1: think what you're really worried about it is the ones 2352 01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:24,559 Speaker 1: we don't know about. 2353 01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:26,600 Speaker 2: It's crazy to think, like the Men and like the 2354 01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:28,880 Speaker 2: Men in black movies back in the day, like there 2355 01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:32,839 Speaker 2: has to be a version of that. With these UFO 2356 01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:35,439 Speaker 2: hearings that they had, it's like there's a version of 2357 01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:37,840 Speaker 2: the Men. But it's like so many movies that we've 2358 01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:39,840 Speaker 2: been fed throughout the years. I feel like it's just 2359 01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:44,000 Speaker 2: desensitizing us to one actually is possible in coming? 2360 01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:47,080 Speaker 1: What is a space force? Even doing you get a 2361 01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:49,400 Speaker 1: whole space force? We don't hear about the activities at all. 2362 01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:53,160 Speaker 2: Think about that movie was it a year and a 2363 01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:55,200 Speaker 2: half or so ago that was on Netflix that Obama's 2364 01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:57,880 Speaker 2: the executive producers of, Oh, yeah, you know what I'm 2365 01:53:57,880 --> 01:53:58,360 Speaker 2: talking about? 2366 01:53:58,479 --> 01:53:59,160 Speaker 1: What was it called? 2367 01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? But literally, I'm like, this is the most realistic 2368 01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:04,439 Speaker 2: right there. 2369 01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:05,960 Speaker 1: And you see the you see he put in the 2370 01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:09,040 Speaker 1: anti eline propaganda. They ain't like that, right. That movie 2371 01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:11,880 Speaker 1: was a that was a war. That movie he's showing that, Yo, 2372 01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:15,120 Speaker 1: these teslas go take over. You gotta understand they use 2373 01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:18,360 Speaker 1: these tools of propaganda and they push us against each other. 2374 01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:21,439 Speaker 1: I mean, the movie was all about the citizens being 2375 01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:24,080 Speaker 1: the enemy. Yes, it wasn't about it outside. It was 2376 01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:25,040 Speaker 1: about you know. 2377 01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:28,880 Speaker 2: About your labor, the division, right, who is America's biggest enemy? 2378 01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:31,960 Speaker 1: It's each other? Each other empires are destroyed from within. 2379 01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:37,240 Speaker 1: So the prediction is that you know, America implos from within. 2380 01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:40,160 Speaker 1: It's too strong for an enemy outside that destroys the world. 2381 01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:43,280 Speaker 1: But on the inside, if you go look at like 2382 01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:46,000 Speaker 1: the Russian defector Yuri, I forget his last name, but 2383 01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:48,320 Speaker 1: he talked about the demoralization and how it takes like 2384 01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:52,000 Speaker 1: twenty five years and demoralized, and that means that if 2385 01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:54,160 Speaker 1: they started twenty five plus years ago, we would be 2386 01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:57,480 Speaker 1: the children of a demoralized generation. They're not doing it now, 2387 01:54:57,560 --> 01:55:00,080 Speaker 1: It's already been done. And I think that's what we 2388 01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:02,360 Speaker 1: need to realize, is that when you look at that 2389 01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:05,520 Speaker 1: younger generation Gen Z, now we're going to Generation Beta 2390 01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:08,839 Speaker 1: and outfront all that stuff, But these are the children 2391 01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:13,760 Speaker 1: of generations of syops being ran on. They parents in society, 2392 01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:19,080 Speaker 1: So blaming them for things is scapegoing right. The next generation, 2393 01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:22,320 Speaker 1: for what you've done and what you've become. We go. 2394 01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:24,600 Speaker 1: We often scapego. We go look at and we be 2395 01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:27,920 Speaker 1: talking about let's say hip hop, right, and we talk 2396 01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:30,680 Speaker 1: about the emasculation of black men, and then they go point. 2397 01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:33,520 Speaker 1: We would see Donald Glover or Pharrell come outside with 2398 01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:37,080 Speaker 1: the anti pants on and stuffy wild. 2399 01:55:37,120 --> 01:55:38,160 Speaker 2: I didn't know if it was really or not. 2400 01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:40,360 Speaker 1: That's why Kanye West had the crop it, you know 2401 01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:42,360 Speaker 1: what I man, he was like, I like the jacket, 2402 01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:46,480 Speaker 1: but he cropped the rest of the But we appoint 2403 01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:48,320 Speaker 1: to the seventies and be like, but in the seventies 2404 01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:50,640 Speaker 1: we dressed like that. Yeah, them niggas was tripping in 2405 01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:54,440 Speaker 1: the seventies too, literally tripping. That's when European fashion took over. 2406 01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:57,960 Speaker 1: Right then everybody on drugs. Then they were spread into 2407 01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:00,800 Speaker 1: pimp movies, you feel me, and then every dude wanted 2408 01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:02,600 Speaker 1: to be goldie. He wanted to be a pimp back 2409 01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:04,520 Speaker 1: in those days. So they start dressing like that. That 2410 01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:08,280 Speaker 1: wasn't our revolutionary time. That wasn't a high prideful time, 2411 01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:10,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's when we was infiltrated 2412 01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:13,680 Speaker 1: with these operations the most, because we was coming off 2413 01:56:13,720 --> 01:56:17,080 Speaker 1: of Afro centricity and militancy in the sixties. And then 2414 01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:19,640 Speaker 1: the seventies is when they start running all these drug 2415 01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:22,440 Speaker 1: operations on us, you feel me. And then of course 2416 01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:23,920 Speaker 1: you get to the eighties, and by the time they 2417 01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:27,080 Speaker 1: got us there, then that's when we become hyper masculine, 2418 01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:29,600 Speaker 1: and then we start destroying each other. So you can't 2419 01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:31,520 Speaker 1: point to the seventies as a time when we had 2420 01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:35,600 Speaker 1: this renaissance. No, that's when we was the most compromised. 2421 01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:38,959 Speaker 2: Do you think that there were you talked about siops? 2422 01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:44,600 Speaker 2: Do you think there has been any sort of purposeful 2423 01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:48,520 Speaker 2: siops sparked through hip hop? 2424 01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:52,520 Speaker 1: Hell love them? Hey, I love hip hop. I sent 2425 01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:55,360 Speaker 1: you my sound track album. I'm working on one called 2426 01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:59,680 Speaker 1: Save Yourself. But essentially, one could look at hip hop 2427 01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:04,440 Speaker 1: as a saiyah, our saio been theirs, right, it's our Siah. 2428 01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:07,080 Speaker 1: When I talked about you know the gods infiltrading hip hop? 2429 01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:09,840 Speaker 1: You know peace God, then it became what's something nigga? 2430 01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:12,960 Speaker 1: You feel me? That was a switch of language, right, 2431 01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:15,520 Speaker 1: what does that do? We talked, we would use the 2432 01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:20,200 Speaker 1: words brother Moore and rap lyrics, right, and then we 2433 01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:23,320 Speaker 1: started using the word nigga more. And each time you 2434 01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:27,120 Speaker 1: see the shifts in vocabulary, right, and the words that 2435 01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:29,960 Speaker 1: are more frequent that we listening to. What does that do? 2436 01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:32,120 Speaker 1: Hip hop is a media that controls the way we 2437 01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:35,320 Speaker 1: feel and see about ourselves and each other. Right, so, 2438 01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:38,560 Speaker 1: if hip hop is one of the most influential genres 2439 01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:40,960 Speaker 1: in the world, it is the most Yeah you think 2440 01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:43,760 Speaker 1: you go, let that go without having controlling it. They 2441 01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:46,240 Speaker 1: never done that with any media genre ever. When the 2442 01:57:46,280 --> 01:57:49,160 Speaker 1: TV came on, the government used it. When hip hop 2443 01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:51,800 Speaker 1: came on, the government used it. How do we feel prisons? 2444 01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:54,080 Speaker 1: How do we get black people to have an attitude 2445 01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:56,760 Speaker 1: that demoralizes them? How do we get them to talk 2446 01:57:56,760 --> 01:57:59,880 Speaker 1: about sister from Lauren Hill eras to saying bitch and 2447 01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:02,400 Speaker 1: go on to Sexy Red. You can't tell me hip 2448 01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:04,400 Speaker 1: hop not a sayat when we go from Lauren Hill 2449 01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:08,040 Speaker 1: to Sexy Red, that's the SIoT. How do we get 2450 01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:10,160 Speaker 1: a generation from going from Lauren Hills to say and 2451 01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:12,640 Speaker 1: I ain't saying Lauryn Hill It was perfect, right, but 2452 01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:16,600 Speaker 1: it was a much more morality and ethics and values 2453 01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:19,680 Speaker 1: that we were spreading into music. The music today is 2454 01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:23,680 Speaker 1: death music. It's fast consumption, it's fast death. How do 2455 01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:26,200 Speaker 1: we just like we turned into crackheads and music. 2456 01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:29,360 Speaker 2: Well, we've also desensitized the consumer based so much to like, 2457 01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:32,520 Speaker 2: you know, I talk about this all the time, like 2458 01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:35,960 Speaker 2: the YouTube documentary culture when it comes to like what's 2459 01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:40,280 Speaker 2: going on in Jacksonville or Chicago. It's turned like a 2460 01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:42,880 Speaker 2: lot of these guys whose music isn't really good into 2461 01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:45,680 Speaker 2: like just main characters and people's TV shows on YouTube. 2462 01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:49,280 Speaker 2: So when they die, Julio Fulio gets killed in Florida, 2463 01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:52,600 Speaker 2: you know, and you know, young and Ace replies the 2464 01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:54,520 Speaker 2: next day with a freestyle, and then you go through 2465 01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:57,360 Speaker 2: these comments and it's just like it's just so ugly 2466 01:58:57,360 --> 01:58:59,320 Speaker 2: because it's like these are like real human beings we're 2467 01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:02,000 Speaker 2: talking about. It's not even so much about the music 2468 01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:05,680 Speaker 2: as much as it's about like but with a lot 2469 01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:08,600 Speaker 2: of guys obviously about the drama, about the characters in 2470 01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:12,360 Speaker 2: this like you know, this fucking show that's playing out 2471 01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:14,400 Speaker 2: in front of everybody's eyes on YouTube. 2472 01:59:14,640 --> 01:59:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the music is weaponized completely now from 2473 01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:22,360 Speaker 1: when you know there was a switch to ata waits right, 2474 01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:26,200 Speaker 1: everything has been weaponized to get us to think fast, 2475 01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:28,560 Speaker 1: to get our heart rate moving faster, to have us 2476 01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:31,440 Speaker 1: having an anxiety towards each other. When we were listening 2477 01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:34,240 Speaker 1: to crunk music back in the day, and everybody was 2478 01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:38,120 Speaker 1: getting turned up. You feel me? What always happened? A fight, breakout, 2479 01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:39,520 Speaker 1: somebody getting shot. 2480 01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, certain songs I remember with DJ and you couldn't 2481 01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:45,440 Speaker 2: play like what was the little scrappy record No Problem? 2482 01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:47,480 Speaker 1: Couldn't play No Problem. As soon as that come on, 2483 01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:53,600 Speaker 1: you feel me. I'm like, you ain't got numbers. I 2484 01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:55,400 Speaker 1: remember the promoter like, yo, why you play that ship? 2485 01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:58,720 Speaker 1: You started three fights with the fun right, And the 2486 01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:01,480 Speaker 1: reality of it is is it's not even just that 2487 02:00:01,520 --> 02:00:04,280 Speaker 1: the artists themselves was intentional about it, because even when 2488 02:00:04,320 --> 02:00:06,400 Speaker 1: you go to like ying, ain't I love that music? 2489 02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:09,560 Speaker 1: Yani ain't twins wanted to add more conscious music. At first. Well, 2490 02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:13,720 Speaker 1: what the the labels and the coach of gravitated towards 2491 02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:16,280 Speaker 1: was that low music, you feel me, low frequency. So 2492 02:00:16,280 --> 02:00:18,880 Speaker 1: they said, let's just if this is the product. Instead 2493 02:00:18,920 --> 02:00:20,480 Speaker 1: of me trying to make a five star meal, let 2494 02:00:20,480 --> 02:00:23,880 Speaker 1: me make McDonald's and sell a million of these burgers. Right, 2495 02:00:23,960 --> 02:00:26,040 Speaker 1: And so a lot of rappers right now are just 2496 02:00:26,120 --> 02:00:26,960 Speaker 1: like McDonald's. 2497 02:00:27,160 --> 02:00:29,560 Speaker 2: I feel like hip hop is more McDonald's in it. 2498 02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:31,480 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing, is, Like I said earlier, 2499 02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:33,600 Speaker 2: It's like back in the day we had like the 2500 02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:36,560 Speaker 2: commons and the most deafs, and like even like a 2501 02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:40,160 Speaker 2: guy like a Mortal Technique who was headlining huge festivals 2502 02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:42,720 Speaker 2: and Mortal Technique. I learned so much about the world from. 2503 02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:46,280 Speaker 1: More ye see again. You learn world views and perspectives. 2504 02:00:46,280 --> 02:00:48,080 Speaker 1: You learned about different regions and things. 2505 02:00:48,080 --> 02:00:49,400 Speaker 2: And I don't even know who that is in twenty 2506 02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:52,600 Speaker 2: twenty five. It's not too many, you know, Like I 2507 02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:55,800 Speaker 2: think Killer Mike is a great resource. 2508 02:00:55,920 --> 02:00:57,920 Speaker 1: But shut out to Killer Mike, shout out to Shout 2509 02:00:57,960 --> 02:00:58,720 Speaker 1: out to Larrussell. 2510 02:00:58,920 --> 02:00:59,720 Speaker 2: L Russell was amazing. 2511 02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:03,320 Speaker 1: By out tell my brother Simba by you feel me, 2512 02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:05,800 Speaker 1: Jack Heller, that's my little brother. You know what I'm saying. 2513 02:01:06,440 --> 02:01:08,320 Speaker 1: I think it's it's some really dope artists. 2514 02:01:08,440 --> 02:01:10,040 Speaker 2: No, there's amazing hipp brother. 2515 02:01:09,920 --> 02:01:12,880 Speaker 1: Aj McQueen shout out to him. You feel me. It's 2516 02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:15,640 Speaker 1: some dope people. And I think what needs to shift is, 2517 02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:18,000 Speaker 1: like we got to realize the power is in the independent. 2518 02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:21,920 Speaker 1: You feel me? And how do you how do you 2519 02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:24,680 Speaker 1: intentionally look at those voices and saying, because I know 2520 02:01:24,720 --> 02:01:28,400 Speaker 1: they're not gonna be represented, I'm going to push them right. 2521 02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:30,160 Speaker 1: And I mean that as people like us that have 2522 02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:31,040 Speaker 1: media for sure. 2523 02:01:31,480 --> 02:01:33,120 Speaker 2: You know all those people you just mentioned are my 2524 02:01:33,160 --> 02:01:34,800 Speaker 2: friends and been on the show many times. 2525 02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:37,440 Speaker 1: And everybody needs to do that that believes in that 2526 02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:39,760 Speaker 1: at least sure, right, and when you do it and 2527 02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:42,160 Speaker 1: they hot, everybody else gonna jump on it anyway. Yeah, 2528 02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:42,800 Speaker 1: you feel me. 2529 02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:44,480 Speaker 2: I see it all the time. I tell these guys, 2530 02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:47,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, like like, hey, how do I get 2531 02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:49,960 Speaker 2: on so and social? I'm like, man, you just keep 2532 02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:52,520 Speaker 2: going because these fools only gonna tap in with you, beficial. 2533 02:01:53,240 --> 02:01:55,120 Speaker 1: You just got to keep moving around. It's a it's 2534 02:01:55,160 --> 02:01:56,960 Speaker 1: a fight, it's a war. It's like who gets a 2535 02:01:57,000 --> 02:02:00,360 Speaker 1: control the frequency? You know what I'm saying and I 2536 02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:03,120 Speaker 1: ain't saying like you got to make all conscious music. 2537 02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:06,040 Speaker 1: You feel me, be conscious when you make your music. 2538 02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:08,160 Speaker 2: Or be conscious when you're when you speak. 2539 02:02:08,120 --> 02:02:10,680 Speaker 1: One hundred percent because you get a platform, you can 2540 02:02:10,720 --> 02:02:13,600 Speaker 1: represent something higher. If you're on an interview, Look at 2541 02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:17,920 Speaker 1: ain'ty of Larry Jones. He's like he's the most player. 2542 02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:21,720 Speaker 1: How do you even put him in a category? He's 2543 02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:25,520 Speaker 1: his own thing. But he's very like barrier playing fly ship. 2544 02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:28,080 Speaker 1: But if you listen to him speak he's he's pushing organic. 2545 02:02:28,280 --> 02:02:28,800 Speaker 1: You feel me. 2546 02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:30,800 Speaker 2: He's pushing exercise. 2547 02:02:30,200 --> 02:02:33,200 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. That's that's the example of putting the 2548 02:02:33,280 --> 02:02:36,200 Speaker 1: candy in the medicine jar. You feel me. You get 2549 02:02:36,240 --> 02:02:39,360 Speaker 1: individuals like him, and you realize, like, when you get 2550 02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:43,200 Speaker 1: close the lifestyle that he pushing is really a healthy lifestyle. 2551 02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:45,480 Speaker 1: You feel me. But how do you do it and 2552 02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:47,000 Speaker 1: stay cool? You feel me. 2553 02:02:47,120 --> 02:02:48,080 Speaker 2: He's kind of mastered that. 2554 02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:51,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll you know, been seeing him forever growing 2555 02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:54,800 Speaker 1: up in the Bay. You feel me. I think he 2556 02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:58,800 Speaker 1: has a really good blueprint. I agree. How do you 2557 02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:03,520 Speaker 1: make music that is still I think super cultural in 2558 02:03:03,560 --> 02:03:06,520 Speaker 1: the way where it's cold as hell. It's player, but 2559 02:03:07,240 --> 02:03:10,120 Speaker 1: it is becoming a trojan horse because when you get 2560 02:03:10,120 --> 02:03:12,800 Speaker 1: close up you realize, like, oh, he actually pushing something 2561 02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:16,960 Speaker 1: positive independence, even somebody likes Sauce Walker. Sauce Walker, he 2562 02:03:17,000 --> 02:03:18,960 Speaker 1: goes through that h town music. You feel me. You 2563 02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:20,440 Speaker 1: go put it in a certain way, but he gonna 2564 02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:22,840 Speaker 1: always throw some candy in the medicine sure, and then 2565 02:03:22,840 --> 02:03:24,200 Speaker 1: when he speaks, you go here. And then when you 2566 02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:26,960 Speaker 1: see him doing an interview, you're like, oh shit, and 2567 02:03:27,040 --> 02:03:29,960 Speaker 1: who's that influencing the most? His constituency, the people that 2568 02:03:30,040 --> 02:03:32,200 Speaker 1: listen to him, the people that normally they might not 2569 02:03:32,240 --> 02:03:34,560 Speaker 1: get it from those nineteen keys, but when they heard 2570 02:03:34,640 --> 02:03:37,960 Speaker 1: saut throw the sauce on it, you know what, I think, bros, Right, 2571 02:03:38,240 --> 02:03:40,440 Speaker 1: And I think rappers got to be stop being afraid 2572 02:03:40,480 --> 02:03:43,640 Speaker 1: of allowing like your audience to see that side of you. Yeah, 2573 02:03:43,680 --> 02:03:45,160 Speaker 1: And I think that's a lot of they feel like 2574 02:03:45,160 --> 02:03:47,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna lose the audience. But I think you're been 2575 02:03:47,320 --> 02:03:48,360 Speaker 1: exposed to a lot well. 2576 02:03:48,360 --> 02:03:50,640 Speaker 2: Also, a lot of artists, like quite frankly, don't have 2577 02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:53,160 Speaker 2: the mind that Saucewalker has or the mind you know. 2578 02:03:53,360 --> 02:03:55,720 Speaker 2: But it's like the ones that do, the ones that do, 2579 02:03:55,840 --> 02:03:58,760 Speaker 2: it's like you're almost like full of shit, low key 2580 02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:01,200 Speaker 2: on a large scale. Like every time you're on camera, 2581 02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:04,680 Speaker 2: you do a podcast, you do an interview, you don't really. 2582 02:04:04,560 --> 02:04:06,760 Speaker 1: Well, they think they gotta be this persona. It's like 2583 02:04:06,800 --> 02:04:09,560 Speaker 1: this old school You've seen an interview with Richie rich 2584 02:04:09,640 --> 02:04:13,000 Speaker 1: and Tupac. He got on another vest and I feel 2585 02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:15,160 Speaker 1: like so many people took that interview as this is 2586 02:04:15,160 --> 02:04:18,120 Speaker 1: the persona I need to be in interviews really not 2587 02:04:18,120 --> 02:04:20,600 Speaker 1: paying attention to him, smoking, trying to figure out when 2588 02:04:20,600 --> 02:04:22,400 Speaker 1: this shit is over with. Yeah, you feel me? 2589 02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:23,520 Speaker 2: And I was like, don't even come. 2590 02:04:23,640 --> 02:04:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, they throwing a persona like that's that's not you, 2591 02:04:26,520 --> 02:04:28,520 Speaker 1: Like you're telling me as a man, you can have 2592 02:04:28,560 --> 02:04:29,920 Speaker 1: a conversation with another man. 2593 02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:32,520 Speaker 2: So I had a a artist. I had a famous 2594 02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:34,120 Speaker 2: moment on the pot. I'm not gonna say artist name. 2595 02:04:34,120 --> 02:04:37,360 Speaker 2: People can put it together all they one. But so 2596 02:04:38,640 --> 02:04:42,360 Speaker 2: this this guy's label. I'm friends with one of the 2597 02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:46,520 Speaker 2: girls who runs runs the label, and she was like, Yo, 2598 02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:49,680 Speaker 2: so and so is really really wanting to go on 2599 02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:53,320 Speaker 2: Joe Rogan. He's like in the politics, he's in the aliens, 2600 02:04:53,320 --> 02:04:55,480 Speaker 2: He's in all this crazy shit. And I was like him, 2601 02:04:57,560 --> 02:05:03,600 Speaker 2: like him, Yeah, So he comes on my show, popped 2602 02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:06,080 Speaker 2: the perk right before the interview started, was an hour late. 2603 02:05:06,480 --> 02:05:08,880 Speaker 2: I mean just was like the absolute worst person ever. 2604 02:05:09,360 --> 02:05:11,440 Speaker 2: Was not trying to have a discussion whatsoever. I'm trying 2605 02:05:11,480 --> 02:05:14,720 Speaker 2: to engage him and yeah, and we ended up having 2606 02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:19,680 Speaker 2: this big famous moment. He leaves and uh, I shit 2607 02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:22,000 Speaker 2: you not. Like a month ago, I get the same 2608 02:05:22,040 --> 02:05:25,120 Speaker 2: call from the label saying, hey, I know y'all's interview 2609 02:05:25,120 --> 02:05:27,240 Speaker 2: didn't go that great, but he really do you have 2610 02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:29,480 Speaker 2: any ends on Joe Rogan, and I'm like. 2611 02:05:30,440 --> 02:05:33,120 Speaker 1: Who the fuck do I look like? That's why That's why. 2612 02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:35,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, I also like I don't like, I'm not 2613 02:05:35,600 --> 02:05:38,240 Speaker 2: is this guy capable? Like like you know, like if 2614 02:05:38,280 --> 02:05:40,560 Speaker 2: you knew this dude, like I like his music a lot, 2615 02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:42,480 Speaker 2: but it's like, if you just knew him surface level, 2616 02:05:42,520 --> 02:05:45,240 Speaker 2: based on like how he presents himself on camera, you'd 2617 02:05:45,240 --> 02:05:47,280 Speaker 2: be like, there's no way, like this guy even has 2618 02:05:47,320 --> 02:05:49,680 Speaker 2: that sort of but apparently he does, you know. And 2619 02:05:49,720 --> 02:05:51,360 Speaker 2: it's like at the end of the day, it's like, 2620 02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:51,760 Speaker 2: I think. 2621 02:05:51,640 --> 02:05:54,440 Speaker 1: That's the that's the thing like we look at I 2622 02:05:54,480 --> 02:05:57,080 Speaker 1: think this cultural persona that we have when we represent 2623 02:05:57,120 --> 02:05:59,200 Speaker 1: ourselves in front of the coach and our people, that 2624 02:05:59,240 --> 02:06:01,800 Speaker 1: it got to be like this low level version of ourselves. 2625 02:06:02,160 --> 02:06:04,080 Speaker 1: This is who we need to be to play this character. 2626 02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:07,720 Speaker 1: But then when you yourself, when you go on a 2627 02:06:07,840 --> 02:06:10,440 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan and say if you will or high level conversations, 2628 02:06:10,760 --> 02:06:13,000 Speaker 1: it allows you to demonstrate a different side because you know, 2629 02:06:13,040 --> 02:06:15,880 Speaker 1: you speaking in front of a different audience, and what 2630 02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:19,960 Speaker 1: you got to demonstrate and realize it's a global audience always, right, 2631 02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:23,400 Speaker 1: there's no borders on the podcast, right, so you always 2632 02:06:23,440 --> 02:06:26,160 Speaker 1: had that opportunity to gain a new fan base. If 2633 02:06:26,200 --> 02:06:28,240 Speaker 1: they hear something new from you that they like, for 2634 02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:31,680 Speaker 1: sure you're speaking on a different subject. I had acept 2635 02:06:31,720 --> 02:06:34,520 Speaker 1: Ferg on the show, and so many people was like, bro. 2636 02:06:34,680 --> 02:06:36,080 Speaker 2: This new album was super. 2637 02:06:36,040 --> 02:06:39,480 Speaker 1: Sided Ace before so hell of people was coming. I'm 2638 02:06:39,480 --> 02:06:41,200 Speaker 1: about to go watch his album. I mean listen to 2639 02:06:41,240 --> 02:06:43,760 Speaker 1: his album, yeah, and this new album he was super vulnerable. Right. 2640 02:06:43,880 --> 02:06:44,480 Speaker 2: It different. 2641 02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:47,160 Speaker 1: But if you don't, if you don't get the curation, 2642 02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:48,920 Speaker 1: because I think this is what a lot of artists 2643 02:06:48,960 --> 02:06:51,080 Speaker 1: can't do. They can't curate that side of themselves to 2644 02:06:51,120 --> 02:06:53,920 Speaker 1: make space for it for they fan base, right, And 2645 02:06:53,960 --> 02:06:55,920 Speaker 1: some people they switch up so much on their fan 2646 02:06:55,960 --> 02:06:58,080 Speaker 1: base they leave them behind. You have to take them 2647 02:06:58,120 --> 02:07:02,360 Speaker 1: on a journey with you, right. So I look at 2648 02:07:02,640 --> 02:07:04,760 Speaker 1: a lot of them are just not trained, you know 2649 02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:07,280 Speaker 1: what I mean. They're not pr training, not brand training 2650 02:07:07,400 --> 02:07:09,400 Speaker 1: on how to market. They don't understand these things. They 2651 02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:12,000 Speaker 1: think in this's binary well on this one on hip hop, shit, 2652 02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:13,840 Speaker 1: i don't act like an ignorant nigga on this one, 2653 02:07:13,960 --> 02:07:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm acting a little more intelligent. Things of that nature. 2654 02:07:16,320 --> 02:07:18,800 Speaker 2: Or they're like chasing like be yourself on all of 2655 02:07:18,840 --> 02:07:21,240 Speaker 2: them in the same way that platforms can farm clip 2656 02:07:22,360 --> 02:07:25,480 Speaker 2: or clip farm. Rather, the artists will do that too. 2657 02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:26,760 Speaker 2: They know what they're doing, they're trying to. 2658 02:07:26,840 --> 02:07:29,160 Speaker 1: But they be creating cheap moments that at the end 2659 02:07:29,200 --> 02:07:31,120 Speaker 1: of the day, you become that moment, right, you know 2660 02:07:31,160 --> 02:07:33,160 Speaker 1: what I mean? And then people forget you for anything 2661 02:07:33,200 --> 02:07:36,040 Speaker 1: else because they got so much information they processing. They 2662 02:07:36,040 --> 02:07:38,600 Speaker 1: can only remember you from the moment that stood out, 2663 02:07:39,040 --> 02:07:41,200 Speaker 1: and it's not even the music most right time. And 2664 02:07:41,240 --> 02:07:43,919 Speaker 1: then if your music not connected to the moment you created, 2665 02:07:44,320 --> 02:07:45,960 Speaker 1: how is that gonna create a funnel for me to 2666 02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:48,560 Speaker 1: listen to your music, because there's no mood if I 2667 02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:53,760 Speaker 1: think of you, think about any artists, right, I'm trying 2668 02:07:53,760 --> 02:07:57,480 Speaker 1: to think of somebody, But let's just any artists for example, 2669 02:07:57,560 --> 02:07:59,360 Speaker 1: that create a moment in time like the one you 2670 02:07:59,400 --> 02:08:03,520 Speaker 1: had with the person you're talking about. Right. If the 2671 02:08:03,720 --> 02:08:06,240 Speaker 1: music is connected to that type of activity when they 2672 02:08:06,240 --> 02:08:09,080 Speaker 1: think about the person, that's cool. But if they make 2673 02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:11,960 Speaker 1: any music outside of that, then they got a disconnection. 2674 02:08:12,040 --> 02:08:14,320 Speaker 1: Now they don't have ability to grow. So now you 2675 02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:16,960 Speaker 1: make some music, but that's not how I feel about you, right, 2676 02:08:17,000 --> 02:08:18,400 Speaker 1: So now I don't want to listen to you. Talk 2677 02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:20,640 Speaker 1: about nothing else. I only want you to be stuck 2678 02:08:20,680 --> 02:08:23,520 Speaker 1: in this one little pigeonhole. When I want to feel 2679 02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:25,320 Speaker 1: like that, I will go to you. But when the 2680 02:08:25,360 --> 02:08:27,720 Speaker 1: world shifts and people don't feel like that no more, 2681 02:08:28,200 --> 02:08:31,040 Speaker 1: now you don't have a platform. So everybody should be 2682 02:08:31,080 --> 02:08:34,160 Speaker 1: making a platform robust enough to where they have the 2683 02:08:34,200 --> 02:08:37,480 Speaker 1: ability to shift in the audience will follow them along 2684 02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:37,880 Speaker 1: through it. 2685 02:08:38,240 --> 02:08:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think too, it's like unfortunate, man, Like 2686 02:08:41,640 --> 02:08:44,200 Speaker 2: there's not really any like real dope, big homies that 2687 02:08:44,240 --> 02:08:47,240 Speaker 2: a lot of these rappers have. Man, And you know, 2688 02:08:47,440 --> 02:08:49,280 Speaker 2: even if you think about. 2689 02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:52,040 Speaker 1: Like, well they chasing relevance too, that's exactly right. 2690 02:08:52,080 --> 02:08:53,800 Speaker 2: But even if you think about like like we got 2691 02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:55,520 Speaker 2: to go to Utah and hang out with Young Boy 2692 02:08:55,800 --> 02:08:58,280 Speaker 2: for a day, and like I was, like, dude, this 2693 02:08:58,360 --> 02:09:01,600 Speaker 2: guy was the biggest per form an artist on Atlantic 2694 02:09:01,640 --> 02:09:06,000 Speaker 2: Records for like, I mean, this guy's a prolific artist 2695 02:09:06,040 --> 02:09:08,000 Speaker 2: in terms of like the numbers he's put up, right, 2696 02:09:08,040 --> 02:09:10,160 Speaker 2: and even just the influence on kids he has. Right, 2697 02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:13,720 Speaker 2: But you could just tell like that dude, like whears 2698 02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:19,480 Speaker 2: so much of that and like where like I cannot 2699 02:09:19,480 --> 02:09:22,840 Speaker 2: imagine like anybody involved with Atlantic Records like try to 2700 02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:25,920 Speaker 2: step in and be like just try to help them 2701 02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:29,040 Speaker 2: on like a human basis, as opposed to like, hey, 2702 02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:31,920 Speaker 2: you have another album to turn in. Hey, by the way, 2703 02:09:31,960 --> 02:09:35,200 Speaker 2: if you go to jail, it's probably helpful as long 2704 02:09:35,240 --> 02:09:36,720 Speaker 2: as you don't go way too long. It's a little 2705 02:09:36,720 --> 02:09:39,520 Speaker 2: helpful because it builds this allure. And now we get 2706 02:09:39,560 --> 02:09:42,600 Speaker 2: the free young Boy campaign. Items being happened with Wayne 2707 02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:44,520 Speaker 2: back in the day, you know, when Waingne got locked up, 2708 02:09:44,560 --> 02:09:47,160 Speaker 2: it's like they don't give a fuck, and then what 2709 02:09:47,280 --> 02:09:50,880 Speaker 2: happens is you know, you might you know, you know, 2710 02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:52,280 Speaker 2: I think Young Boys are a good dude. 2711 02:09:52,320 --> 02:09:52,440 Speaker 1: Man. 2712 02:09:52,480 --> 02:09:55,120 Speaker 2: We spent some time with him and he was super cool. 2713 02:09:55,640 --> 02:09:58,320 Speaker 2: But like, at the end of the day, like you 2714 02:09:58,400 --> 02:10:01,720 Speaker 2: can't be who he he is and deal with you know, 2715 02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:03,880 Speaker 2: the addiction and the family. He's got a lot of 2716 02:10:03,960 --> 02:10:06,320 Speaker 2: kids and all the trauma that he's dealt with over 2717 02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:10,680 Speaker 2: the years and not be like fucking affected by it 2718 02:10:10,720 --> 02:10:13,920 Speaker 2: and not wear it. And it's like, who's there, who's 2719 02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:18,160 Speaker 2: there to you know, there's nobody there to like help 2720 02:10:18,240 --> 02:10:19,160 Speaker 2: him do that for real? 2721 02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:22,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the label not gonna care you're a 2722 02:10:22,360 --> 02:10:24,120 Speaker 1: product to the label is just business like. 2723 02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:27,000 Speaker 2: Now the NFL has CT protocol. They had to you know, 2724 02:10:27,240 --> 02:10:29,320 Speaker 2: it's like, where's that for hip hop? Where's that for artists? 2725 02:10:29,400 --> 02:10:30,760 Speaker 2: You know, like it's just that doesn't exist. 2726 02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:33,280 Speaker 1: That that goes to your managers and the people around you. 2727 02:10:33,440 --> 02:10:35,560 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. You're a quote unquote big homes. 2728 02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:38,000 Speaker 1: Wanted us to come up there. We couldn't make it happen. 2729 02:10:38,640 --> 02:10:41,680 Speaker 1: But that was me seeing them having foresight to saying, 2730 02:10:41,680 --> 02:10:43,760 Speaker 1: this thing is about to go to left. How do 2731 02:10:43,880 --> 02:10:47,520 Speaker 1: we get somebody that possibly some of these rappers of 2732 02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:51,440 Speaker 1: people could listen to right? And that's the tough part. 2733 02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:53,080 Speaker 1: It's a lot of people we're supposed to have on 2734 02:10:53,080 --> 02:10:54,600 Speaker 1: a platform. A lot of times they either I think 2735 02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:57,400 Speaker 1: they're afraid to have a conversation sometimes sure, And for me, 2736 02:10:57,480 --> 02:10:59,640 Speaker 1: I just have a conversation with you, Like I don't 2737 02:10:59,680 --> 02:11:02,040 Speaker 1: whatever were gonna talk about. It's easy for me to 2738 02:11:02,080 --> 02:11:04,400 Speaker 1: make a high level but it's gonna be something beneficial 2739 02:11:04,400 --> 02:11:05,760 Speaker 1: to where you gain a new audience. 2740 02:11:06,160 --> 02:11:07,640 Speaker 2: That was my whole thing with him was like just 2741 02:11:07,760 --> 02:11:09,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go there and I'm not gonna treat him 2742 02:11:09,240 --> 02:11:11,280 Speaker 2: like an alien. Yeah, because I feel like everybody who 2743 02:11:11,280 --> 02:11:12,720 Speaker 2: would go talk to him like treat him like a 2744 02:11:12,720 --> 02:11:14,800 Speaker 2: fucking alien, like let's just shoot the shit, and. 2745 02:11:14,880 --> 02:11:17,920 Speaker 1: Like, well you need to also, some people need somebody 2746 02:11:17,960 --> 02:11:19,320 Speaker 1: to say some shit you don't want to hear. Like 2747 02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:21,800 Speaker 1: I met with Kodak Black, and I remember it was 2748 02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:24,080 Speaker 1: at Jalen's birthday party and. 2749 02:11:24,160 --> 02:11:27,320 Speaker 2: How recently this was a few months ago. Okay, yeah, 2750 02:11:27,320 --> 02:11:30,320 Speaker 2: he probably, yeah. 2751 02:11:29,080 --> 02:11:30,720 Speaker 1: And when I first met up with him, you know 2752 02:11:30,720 --> 02:11:32,840 Speaker 1: what I mean, it was all love and respect. Of course, 2753 02:11:32,880 --> 02:11:34,880 Speaker 1: the whole time he was just like bro I followed. 2754 02:11:34,880 --> 02:11:36,920 Speaker 1: He was calling his homie to show him like we 2755 02:11:36,920 --> 02:11:39,720 Speaker 1: was just talking about always listening to you. And at 2756 02:11:39,760 --> 02:11:43,320 Speaker 1: the time, I felt like when he was on stage performing, 2757 02:11:43,360 --> 02:11:45,480 Speaker 1: he wasn't in his right mind and it was hard 2758 02:11:45,520 --> 02:11:48,160 Speaker 1: to watch and I'm like, man, I don't feel right 2759 02:11:48,280 --> 02:11:51,080 Speaker 1: just watching the performance happen, right, And then later on 2760 02:11:51,120 --> 02:11:53,200 Speaker 1: something happened to him, and then we kind of treated 2761 02:11:53,240 --> 02:11:55,800 Speaker 1: this like entertainment. Yes, so that's why to pull him 2762 02:11:55,840 --> 02:11:57,680 Speaker 1: to a side and you know, get his ear real 2763 02:11:57,720 --> 02:11:59,680 Speaker 1: quick to speak to him. And I feel like we 2764 02:11:59,680 --> 02:12:02,400 Speaker 1: probably not having enough of those kind of moments. You 2765 02:12:02,440 --> 02:12:05,560 Speaker 1: feel me, like you can't treat somebody's downfall as entertainment. 2766 02:12:06,000 --> 02:12:07,920 Speaker 1: You feel me otherwise I look at it as you 2767 02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:09,160 Speaker 1: almost contributing to it. 2768 02:12:09,480 --> 02:12:13,200 Speaker 2: I just turned on a nightclub in Scottsdale and my 2769 02:12:13,240 --> 02:12:14,960 Speaker 2: boy had reached out, who I guess is working with 2770 02:12:15,040 --> 02:12:17,240 Speaker 2: Kodak down. He's like, yo, man, Kodak's will be a phoenix, 2771 02:12:17,840 --> 02:12:19,480 Speaker 2: you know, let's book him at the club. And I 2772 02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:24,920 Speaker 2: was like, bro, I I'm not trying to pay for this, 2773 02:12:25,160 --> 02:12:27,440 Speaker 2: Like he's obviously not doing well, Like I'm not trying 2774 02:12:27,440 --> 02:12:29,600 Speaker 2: to bring him to a club and lead him alcohol, 2775 02:12:29,640 --> 02:12:31,960 Speaker 2: and like, you know, he's Kodak Black. But it's like 2776 02:12:32,840 --> 02:12:35,200 Speaker 2: and the same person was like, nah, bro, you know, 2777 02:12:35,240 --> 02:12:37,240 Speaker 2: Kodak's on Kodak He's good. You know. I'm like, nah, 2778 02:12:37,320 --> 02:12:40,840 Speaker 2: get it. But to me, it's like they shouldn't. I 2779 02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:43,480 Speaker 2: feel like nobody should be making money off of him 2780 02:12:43,560 --> 02:12:45,040 Speaker 2: right now, as opposed. 2781 02:12:44,640 --> 02:12:48,080 Speaker 1: To try extremely talented, he's an alien. It's kind of 2782 02:12:48,120 --> 02:12:51,040 Speaker 1: like watching and some people don't like this a knowledge 2783 02:12:51,040 --> 02:12:55,360 Speaker 1: you watching DMX, you know what I'm saying. It's extremely talented, 2784 02:12:56,080 --> 02:12:58,400 Speaker 1: but I just don't like the way he poisoning himself. 2785 02:12:58,440 --> 02:13:01,000 Speaker 1: And I feel like he got a very high level 2786 02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:04,360 Speaker 1: of consciousness and awareness just knowing the type of things 2787 02:13:04,360 --> 02:13:07,680 Speaker 1: he'd be tapped into, but that environment is stronger than nature. 2788 02:13:07,880 --> 02:13:10,280 Speaker 2: What's sad too, is when you're someone who's that famous, 2789 02:13:10,360 --> 02:13:14,960 Speaker 2: that influential, and have that much money, no matter what happens, 2790 02:13:15,200 --> 02:13:18,040 Speaker 2: you will always find a group to enable you. Oh honey, 2791 02:13:18,080 --> 02:13:20,240 Speaker 2: because you could have a group of great people around 2792 02:13:20,280 --> 02:13:21,840 Speaker 2: you that tell you what you need to hear and 2793 02:13:21,840 --> 02:13:24,200 Speaker 2: try to hold you accountable. It doesn't matter. You're gonna 2794 02:13:24,200 --> 02:13:26,360 Speaker 2: move over to these people who ain't tripping because they're 2795 02:13:26,360 --> 02:13:27,720 Speaker 2: just gonna hear a quickly look off you and then 2796 02:13:27,720 --> 02:13:28,480 Speaker 2: they're depending on you. 2797 02:13:28,440 --> 02:13:30,000 Speaker 1: So they don't know how to pull you to aside 2798 02:13:30,040 --> 02:13:32,120 Speaker 1: because they're afraid that you go cut them off. Yes, 2799 02:13:32,520 --> 02:13:36,480 Speaker 1: so they're enabling is also their dependency, and it's unfortunate 2800 02:13:36,600 --> 02:13:38,680 Speaker 1: because it becomes a cycle that has a downfall and 2801 02:13:38,680 --> 02:13:41,040 Speaker 1: then they're gonna have to cut you off eventually. Anyway. Yeah, 2802 02:13:41,200 --> 02:13:43,560 Speaker 1: So you would rather be the person that says something 2803 02:13:44,000 --> 02:13:46,880 Speaker 1: right before it happened, so at least when that cycle 2804 02:13:46,880 --> 02:13:48,840 Speaker 1: comes to an end, they remember you for being the 2805 02:13:48,880 --> 02:13:51,600 Speaker 1: only person that was telling them right. I'm usually that 2806 02:13:51,680 --> 02:13:54,480 Speaker 1: person in People Live. I'm gonna tell you what's real. 2807 02:13:54,600 --> 02:13:57,000 Speaker 1: You ain't gonna like it, but I grew up with 2808 02:13:57,080 --> 02:13:59,200 Speaker 1: six brothers, and you know, we speak to each other 2809 02:13:59,200 --> 02:14:02,680 Speaker 1: as men, like it or not. And so what ended 2810 02:14:02,720 --> 02:14:05,040 Speaker 1: up happening is is you might dislike me for the 2811 02:14:05,040 --> 02:14:07,120 Speaker 1: moment when when you finally got some time and goddamn 2812 02:14:07,160 --> 02:14:09,240 Speaker 1: listen and you hit that bottom, ees gonna come back, 2813 02:14:09,240 --> 02:14:11,960 Speaker 1: and like, you know what, I apologize you was right, right, 2814 02:14:12,480 --> 02:14:15,480 Speaker 1: And so I'd rather be that person that forewarned you 2815 02:14:15,840 --> 02:14:17,760 Speaker 1: and let you be mad at me while you're going 2816 02:14:17,800 --> 02:14:20,360 Speaker 1: through it and we can several our ties, our connection, 2817 02:14:20,480 --> 02:14:22,880 Speaker 1: whatever it is, because I just can't stay in your 2818 02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:26,120 Speaker 1: radius and let you disrespect yourself and disrespectful to me 2819 02:14:26,520 --> 02:14:28,200 Speaker 1: to not goddamn tell you the right thing. 2820 02:14:29,000 --> 02:14:31,520 Speaker 2: That's real. Man. Well listen, I think we need more 2821 02:14:31,600 --> 02:14:36,400 Speaker 2: voices like yours for people who don't who aren't following 2822 02:14:36,400 --> 02:14:37,280 Speaker 2: you on YouTube. Twitter. 2823 02:14:37,720 --> 02:14:38,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tap in. 2824 02:14:38,680 --> 02:14:42,240 Speaker 2: You gotta tap in man for you said you're working 2825 02:14:42,280 --> 02:14:42,959 Speaker 2: on an album. 2826 02:14:43,400 --> 02:14:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I consider it a soundtrack to the movement. Man. 2827 02:14:47,080 --> 02:14:49,160 Speaker 1: You know, I got in rapping when I was younger. 2828 02:14:49,200 --> 02:14:52,120 Speaker 1: We used to my older brother at me battle rapping 2829 02:14:52,160 --> 02:14:54,080 Speaker 1: in the streets in Saint Louis back in the day. 2830 02:14:54,680 --> 02:14:56,880 Speaker 1: Just told me go out there battle rapping. We'll just 2831 02:14:56,920 --> 02:14:59,960 Speaker 1: be going back and forth, and I developed a new 2832 02:15:00,040 --> 02:15:03,440 Speaker 1: act for freestyling. You feel me. I've always been a 2833 02:15:03,480 --> 02:15:05,560 Speaker 1: speaker of my whole life and just been developing my 2834 02:15:05,640 --> 02:15:09,240 Speaker 1: voice to speakers, you feel me in successful towards speaking. 2835 02:15:09,800 --> 02:15:12,760 Speaker 1: I never really had rap dreams. It was actually his 2836 02:15:12,960 --> 02:15:15,040 Speaker 1: more his dreams than his younger brother that can rap 2837 02:15:15,080 --> 02:15:16,800 Speaker 1: in things of that nature for me of something that 2838 02:15:16,840 --> 02:15:19,760 Speaker 1: came easy, So I never thought of it as a thing, 2839 02:15:20,440 --> 02:15:23,360 Speaker 1: But recently I just find I find piece in it. Man. 2840 02:15:23,400 --> 02:15:27,520 Speaker 1: I find it's almost therapy just going into a studio, 2841 02:15:27,800 --> 02:15:29,960 Speaker 1: you feel me, and coming out with a song, and 2842 02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:32,640 Speaker 1: now I can listen to myself and vibe to it 2843 02:15:32,680 --> 02:15:34,600 Speaker 1: because I think a lot of lot of rappers just 2844 02:15:34,640 --> 02:15:36,440 Speaker 1: be weird. Though I don't want their thoughts in my head, 2845 02:15:37,280 --> 02:15:40,000 Speaker 1: and I'd rather put a soundtrack to my own movement. 2846 02:15:40,360 --> 02:15:43,200 Speaker 1: You feel me. Sometimes people make good music and I'm like, damn, 2847 02:15:43,240 --> 02:15:44,480 Speaker 1: this is what I would have said. This is how 2848 02:15:44,520 --> 02:15:47,400 Speaker 1: I feel now trying to develop my own skill set 2849 02:15:47,400 --> 02:15:50,080 Speaker 1: to where I can put that soundtrack behind it. So 2850 02:15:50,520 --> 02:15:54,600 Speaker 1: I look at it almost like a reverse of like Tupac. Yeah, 2851 02:15:54,600 --> 02:15:57,320 Speaker 1: I mean Tupac started off with music got more intense 2852 02:15:57,360 --> 02:16:00,040 Speaker 1: thought leadership in media, and I start off with the 2853 02:16:00,080 --> 02:16:02,120 Speaker 1: thought leadership in the media, and we add the music 2854 02:16:02,160 --> 02:16:04,880 Speaker 1: as a component to the soundtrack. So it's like building 2855 02:16:04,880 --> 02:16:05,640 Speaker 1: out a whole world. 2856 02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have so much. Obviously, you know you're an author, 2857 02:16:08,360 --> 02:16:11,200 Speaker 2: you got the YouTube is fire like, like I said, 2858 02:16:11,240 --> 02:16:15,440 Speaker 2: some of the best conversations you could find online you have. 2859 02:16:16,120 --> 02:16:18,920 Speaker 2: And then just on the financial literacy front, your way. 2860 02:16:19,000 --> 02:16:21,920 Speaker 2: You know, you're you're huge in the crypto space, which 2861 02:16:21,960 --> 02:16:25,640 Speaker 2: I think is you know, so many people just have 2862 02:16:25,720 --> 02:16:27,080 Speaker 2: such a surface level understanding. 2863 02:16:27,440 --> 02:16:30,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it'scate yourself. Man, you know, you ain't 2864 02:16:30,280 --> 02:16:32,400 Speaker 1: got to go through me at all. The space is 2865 02:16:32,440 --> 02:16:35,280 Speaker 1: wide open. But I would say what's happening right now 2866 02:16:35,360 --> 02:16:38,360 Speaker 1: is people are finding their teacher that can teach them 2867 02:16:38,360 --> 02:16:39,480 Speaker 1: in a way that relates. 2868 02:16:39,640 --> 02:16:41,240 Speaker 2: And the other thing, too, is like people are always 2869 02:16:41,280 --> 02:16:43,680 Speaker 2: thinking with crypto it's too late. It's not too late 2870 02:16:44,280 --> 02:16:46,040 Speaker 2: because it's like, oh, hit a hundred thousand, Damn, I 2871 02:16:46,040 --> 02:16:47,320 Speaker 2: should have got it when it was sixty. But when 2872 02:16:47,360 --> 02:16:48,720 Speaker 2: it was sixty you were like, damn, I should have 2873 02:16:48,720 --> 02:16:49,600 Speaker 2: got any when it was twenty. 2874 02:16:49,920 --> 02:16:52,640 Speaker 1: And it's like it's a reverse mindset that's that's a 2875 02:16:52,680 --> 02:16:56,440 Speaker 1: poverty mindset. It keeps you poor. There's always opportunities in 2876 02:16:56,480 --> 02:17:00,600 Speaker 1: the market, right. Most of the people invest investing in 2877 02:17:00,640 --> 02:17:03,120 Speaker 1: what they think will be valuable in the future. If 2878 02:17:03,200 --> 02:17:07,160 Speaker 1: AI is valuable tech growth sector right now, then people 2879 02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:10,400 Speaker 1: are investing in that. Right. If you're going to award 2880 02:17:10,440 --> 02:17:14,560 Speaker 1: the people investing into goddamn wards, yeah, rate theon and 2881 02:17:14,680 --> 02:17:18,280 Speaker 1: whatever other ones. Manufacturers that's gonna benefit from it, right. 2882 02:17:18,320 --> 02:17:20,880 Speaker 1: So a lot of the information that we have daily 2883 02:17:21,040 --> 02:17:22,760 Speaker 1: as we pay attention to things, we don't have a 2884 02:17:22,800 --> 02:17:26,040 Speaker 1: reason to hold that information. But if it was, let 2885 02:17:26,040 --> 02:17:27,840 Speaker 1: me create a thesis on what I think happened in 2886 02:17:27,840 --> 02:17:29,840 Speaker 1: the world, and then let me go research companies that's 2887 02:17:29,879 --> 02:17:32,760 Speaker 1: go benefit from it. You will be surprised how much 2888 02:17:32,800 --> 02:17:35,959 Speaker 1: knowledge you have that's actually beneficial. How many times you 2889 02:17:35,959 --> 02:17:37,600 Speaker 1: see something I knew that was gonna happen, Well, what 2890 02:17:37,640 --> 02:17:40,480 Speaker 1: if you connected that to an investment? That's note. 2891 02:17:40,480 --> 02:17:42,280 Speaker 2: That's why I always tell people is like, especially when 2892 02:17:42,400 --> 02:17:44,960 Speaker 2: we think of the stock market, it's not I mean, 2893 02:17:45,000 --> 02:17:48,520 Speaker 2: if you do stock options, that's a skill set. That's 2894 02:17:48,520 --> 02:17:51,520 Speaker 2: a skills that is a skill set, and that is 2895 02:17:52,000 --> 02:17:56,119 Speaker 2: if you're not good at it, it is gambling it's 2896 02:17:56,120 --> 02:17:57,120 Speaker 2: a version of gambling. 2897 02:17:57,160 --> 02:18:00,240 Speaker 1: Options allow you to buy time right. So what you're 2898 02:18:00,240 --> 02:18:04,040 Speaker 1: saying is, do you think Microsoft, with all of his 2899 02:18:04,840 --> 02:18:07,800 Speaker 1: resources and contracts and companies that they own, the way 2900 02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:11,680 Speaker 1: the world is going, they supposed to possibly be buying TikTok? 2901 02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:15,080 Speaker 1: Do you think that will increase the stock in the future. 2902 02:18:15,520 --> 02:18:17,720 Speaker 1: So you buy an option a year ahead of time, 2903 02:18:17,760 --> 02:18:20,960 Speaker 1: they say, I want to buy this stock for eighty dollars, right, 2904 02:18:21,080 --> 02:18:26,480 Speaker 1: So now by time that contracts expired and that stock 2905 02:18:26,560 --> 02:18:29,440 Speaker 1: is worth two hundred dollars, you able to buy it 2906 02:18:29,440 --> 02:18:33,040 Speaker 1: for one hundred hundred. So these are these stock options. 2907 02:18:33,120 --> 02:18:35,039 Speaker 1: They look like gambling. If you don't have a. 2908 02:18:35,080 --> 02:18:37,640 Speaker 2: Strike, you don't understand because there is like the higher 2909 02:18:38,120 --> 02:18:41,280 Speaker 2: riskier stock options which also have the higher you know, 2910 02:18:41,560 --> 02:18:42,039 Speaker 2: but then it. 2911 02:18:42,040 --> 02:18:46,320 Speaker 1: Just goes to your risk analysis to be like maybe 2912 02:18:46,320 --> 02:18:48,080 Speaker 1: you only put five percent of your money right. 2913 02:18:48,120 --> 02:18:49,640 Speaker 2: And then on the stock side, I always tell people, 2914 02:18:49,640 --> 02:18:54,039 Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, like the stock market unless you're day trading, 2915 02:18:54,080 --> 02:18:56,280 Speaker 2: it's like yo, like you're not losing unless you sell. 2916 02:18:56,879 --> 02:18:59,400 Speaker 1: So the stock market, I think, especially right now, is 2917 02:18:59,440 --> 02:19:00,160 Speaker 1: pretty easy. 2918 02:19:00,320 --> 02:19:02,920 Speaker 2: Like the video that Monday, I have a ton in 2919 02:19:02,959 --> 02:19:04,920 Speaker 2: the video. So Monday when it went down to like 2920 02:19:04,920 --> 02:19:07,920 Speaker 2: one another ten granded. I was like, oh, this is 2921 02:19:07,959 --> 02:19:10,760 Speaker 2: it's on sale when it was ninety nine dollars last week. 2922 02:19:11,320 --> 02:19:13,959 Speaker 1: More. See that's the reverse mindset is when somebody see 2923 02:19:14,000 --> 02:19:16,440 Speaker 1: it going up, that's when they want to buy. Right. 2924 02:19:16,520 --> 02:19:19,080 Speaker 1: So the money is made want the market. 2925 02:19:18,879 --> 02:19:21,480 Speaker 2: Because I don't plan on selling. I ain't selling the video. 2926 02:19:21,480 --> 02:19:23,879 Speaker 1: You want to increase your position and then you can 2927 02:19:23,920 --> 02:19:25,920 Speaker 1: always borrow against it so you never have to sell 2928 02:19:25,959 --> 02:19:29,199 Speaker 1: it if you want to. The goal is how many 2929 02:19:29,320 --> 02:19:34,760 Speaker 1: assets cannot own stocks, crypto, gold, real estate, right, whatever 2930 02:19:34,800 --> 02:19:38,440 Speaker 1: it is, own assets and you're not buying crypto. You're 2931 02:19:38,480 --> 02:19:42,400 Speaker 1: exchanging one currency from another. Right if you believe that bitcoin, 2932 02:19:42,480 --> 02:19:44,280 Speaker 1: And this is my whole thing, it's why I teach 2933 02:19:44,320 --> 02:19:47,119 Speaker 1: people just play off the highs. So let's say if 2934 02:19:47,160 --> 02:19:51,160 Speaker 1: crypto is down, do you and this is a simple analogy, 2935 02:19:51,240 --> 02:19:53,440 Speaker 1: It's like if you think that the theyalm reaches all 2936 02:19:53,480 --> 02:19:56,280 Speaker 1: time high again, right, it's one thousand dollars from its 2937 02:19:56,280 --> 02:19:59,080 Speaker 1: all time high. That mean if you buy it right 2938 02:19:59,120 --> 02:20:01,920 Speaker 1: now and it goes up one thousand dollars, you benefit 2939 02:20:02,000 --> 02:20:04,840 Speaker 1: from that. The question is when you ask yourself that question, 2940 02:20:05,320 --> 02:20:07,840 Speaker 1: if it's a yes, then buy it. If it's a no, 2941 02:20:08,040 --> 02:20:08,520 Speaker 1: then don't. 2942 02:20:09,040 --> 02:20:11,080 Speaker 2: I also, like like you said, like even in the 2943 02:20:11,080 --> 02:20:13,000 Speaker 2: crypto space, not to get into too much of the weeds, 2944 02:20:13,040 --> 02:20:15,720 Speaker 2: but you can actually see what the like wallets do. 2945 02:20:16,800 --> 02:20:18,840 Speaker 1: And you know, then you can just study the cycles, 2946 02:20:18,920 --> 02:20:23,000 Speaker 1: the cycle. There's a bitcoin cycle, right every four years. 2947 02:20:23,320 --> 02:20:26,039 Speaker 1: It reacts to a cycle. It has lows, it has highs, 2948 02:20:26,440 --> 02:20:28,080 Speaker 1: it retracts, then it goes back. 2949 02:20:28,120 --> 02:20:32,080 Speaker 2: And I think it hit eighty nine thousands right before Christmas, 2950 02:20:32,080 --> 02:20:34,160 Speaker 2: because like in eighty nine ninety thousand exceup to like 2951 02:20:34,160 --> 02:20:35,560 Speaker 2: one on one. Now I think it was right when 2952 02:20:35,560 --> 02:20:36,439 Speaker 2: he reaches. 2953 02:20:36,160 --> 02:20:38,080 Speaker 1: The high one o seven, one on eight. 2954 02:20:38,120 --> 02:20:40,119 Speaker 2: Then it goes back down. It's like, you know, something's 2955 02:20:40,120 --> 02:20:42,440 Speaker 2: got to happen for to break that resistance point. We'll see. 2956 02:20:42,480 --> 02:20:44,920 Speaker 1: But even the easiest thing is just a dollar cost 2957 02:20:44,920 --> 02:20:46,959 Speaker 1: average for the average person, right. 2958 02:20:46,879 --> 02:20:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like, are you what is your strategy? 2959 02:20:48,959 --> 02:20:50,440 Speaker 2: You're trying to hit a quick lick, because that's the 2960 02:20:50,520 --> 02:20:51,080 Speaker 2: other problem. 2961 02:20:51,200 --> 02:20:53,360 Speaker 1: Well, see, that's that's what I like to teach. So 2962 02:20:53,560 --> 02:20:56,320 Speaker 1: like when we do crypto, we do tokenomics, right, how 2963 02:20:56,360 --> 02:20:59,959 Speaker 1: do you actually study the token economics that's basically going 2964 02:21:00,080 --> 02:21:02,920 Speaker 1: in the behind the scenes and read the white paper, 2965 02:21:03,160 --> 02:21:06,160 Speaker 1: who is behind it, who's in the project? Right? I 2966 02:21:06,200 --> 02:21:09,200 Speaker 1: give strategies to how people can analyze something for themselves 2967 02:21:09,280 --> 02:21:11,800 Speaker 1: or they don't need nobody else. Right, So now they 2968 02:21:11,800 --> 02:21:13,520 Speaker 1: can look at every crypto and know which one is 2969 02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:15,760 Speaker 1: going to be a rug pull, which one is risky, 2970 02:21:15,840 --> 02:21:18,040 Speaker 1: which one is a long term back, how to go 2971 02:21:18,080 --> 02:21:19,840 Speaker 1: study trends, who to follow on Twitter? 2972 02:21:19,959 --> 02:21:23,640 Speaker 2: Even to the plot like Solano, right, it's like, well, 2973 02:21:23,680 --> 02:21:26,039 Speaker 2: all of these it feels like a lot of these 2974 02:21:26,160 --> 02:21:29,119 Speaker 2: big popular mean coins they run on that network. 2975 02:21:28,760 --> 02:21:32,360 Speaker 1: Because it's cheaper and faster and easier and Ethereum blockchain 2976 02:21:32,720 --> 02:21:34,800 Speaker 1: it should be higher, but they haven't been able to 2977 02:21:34,840 --> 02:21:38,560 Speaker 1: decrease fees yet. So the owner of it is Vitalic Bureau, 2978 02:21:38,520 --> 02:21:39,920 Speaker 1: and he just put out a paper said that he 2979 02:21:40,000 --> 02:21:42,720 Speaker 1: gonna make your more robust, He's gonna improve It hasn't 2980 02:21:42,720 --> 02:21:44,760 Speaker 1: happened yet. So a lot of people are in the 2981 02:21:44,760 --> 02:21:48,800 Speaker 1: belief that Ethereum, especially after the mean coin cycle ends, 2982 02:21:48,879 --> 02:21:50,200 Speaker 1: is going to be the one that gets all of 2983 02:21:50,200 --> 02:21:53,760 Speaker 1: that track. And that was the NFT platform everybody, and 2984 02:21:53,879 --> 02:21:56,600 Speaker 1: those were expensive because people were NFTs and then the 2985 02:21:56,640 --> 02:21:58,680 Speaker 1: fees were so high that you would lose hell of 2986 02:21:58,680 --> 02:22:01,160 Speaker 1: money in the fees trying to buy it project. Yeah. 2987 02:22:01,200 --> 02:22:03,720 Speaker 2: And then I'm like, I'm looking at that world liberty, 2988 02:22:04,040 --> 02:22:06,840 Speaker 2: that Trump, Yeah, Trump's behind it. I'm like, they're buying out. 2989 02:22:07,280 --> 02:22:10,680 Speaker 2: If you have an insane amount of ethereum, they must. 2990 02:22:10,520 --> 02:22:13,400 Speaker 1: Know selling people the ethereum is gonna hit. I promise 2991 02:22:13,440 --> 02:22:14,119 Speaker 1: you it's gonna hit. 2992 02:22:14,240 --> 02:22:14,720 Speaker 2: They must. 2993 02:22:14,800 --> 02:22:17,040 Speaker 1: This is our financial advice. You know what I'm saying. 2994 02:22:17,360 --> 02:22:21,720 Speaker 1: But I gotta say that. But go study. So here's 2995 02:22:21,760 --> 02:22:25,400 Speaker 1: another thing. It's like, if you looks at there's if 2996 02:22:25,440 --> 02:22:28,400 Speaker 1: AI projects win, RWA projects win, do you have to 2997 02:22:28,400 --> 02:22:30,320 Speaker 1: ask yourself what chain this is the homework for you 2998 02:22:30,360 --> 02:22:32,960 Speaker 1: all to do? What crypto would benefit the most that 2999 02:22:33,040 --> 02:22:36,120 Speaker 1: they have to run those projects on. Right when something 3000 02:22:36,160 --> 02:22:38,440 Speaker 1: becomes popular, look at where all of the attention and 3001 02:22:38,520 --> 02:22:40,840 Speaker 1: energy is going to go through. What's the utility? Right now? 3002 02:22:40,959 --> 02:22:44,560 Speaker 1: Means it? Yes? Hot, Right, you can turn ten dollars 3003 02:22:44,560 --> 02:22:47,360 Speaker 1: into a million dollars if you of the one percent 3004 02:22:47,440 --> 02:22:50,039 Speaker 1: that get that goddamn lucky right. Or you have a 3005 02:22:50,080 --> 02:22:51,840 Speaker 1: super strategy to where you know how to create a 3006 02:22:51,879 --> 02:22:56,480 Speaker 1: buying this sniper project fast, or you inside and insider circle. 3007 02:22:56,920 --> 02:23:00,640 Speaker 1: If that's not you, right, then your risk of tolerance 3008 02:23:00,680 --> 02:23:02,360 Speaker 1: is way too high for you to just be jumping 3009 02:23:02,400 --> 02:23:05,840 Speaker 1: into every mean coin thinking you go win. Now. Another 3010 02:23:05,879 --> 02:23:08,320 Speaker 1: thing is people missing this element or just create your 3011 02:23:08,320 --> 02:23:11,480 Speaker 1: own I'm a big fan. Like when NFT cycle was 3012 02:23:11,520 --> 02:23:14,000 Speaker 1: going through, I was telling people to create the damn project. 3013 02:23:14,480 --> 02:23:17,320 Speaker 1: You don't have to just go consume, consume, consume. There's 3014 02:23:17,360 --> 02:23:20,320 Speaker 1: nothing stopping you from creating your own blockchain. 3015 02:23:19,879 --> 02:23:22,080 Speaker 2: Probu I mean, I mean, and then you know, even like. 3016 02:23:22,040 --> 02:23:24,200 Speaker 1: Some of the artists who got to like Toy, Yeah, 3017 02:23:24,280 --> 02:23:27,280 Speaker 1: Tory Pioneer, why nobody take that same strategy and will 3018 02:23:27,400 --> 02:23:27,680 Speaker 1: with it. 3019 02:23:27,760 --> 02:23:30,520 Speaker 2: Snoop tried. I mean, Snoop tried. Snoop changed his life off. 3020 02:23:30,400 --> 02:23:33,720 Speaker 1: A grew man. If a Kendrick and a Drake wanted 3021 02:23:33,720 --> 02:23:35,959 Speaker 1: to drop a project on the blockchain and all that 3022 02:23:36,000 --> 02:23:40,000 Speaker 1: money come direct to them, Yeah, it's like people are lazy, 3023 02:23:40,200 --> 02:23:42,400 Speaker 1: that's all it is. And we don't want to I mean, 3024 02:23:42,720 --> 02:23:45,080 Speaker 1: we don't actually need the institutions the way we think 3025 02:23:45,120 --> 02:23:47,240 Speaker 1: we do. No, we're just so used to. 3026 02:23:47,240 --> 02:23:49,760 Speaker 2: It being And it's also the advanced culture of the 3027 02:23:49,840 --> 02:23:52,400 Speaker 2: music industry. It's like I could just turn this album 3028 02:23:52,440 --> 02:23:54,920 Speaker 2: in and I could get a million dollars real quick. 3029 02:23:55,480 --> 02:23:58,280 Speaker 1: Or you could, but that's lazy again, it could no, 3030 02:23:58,400 --> 02:24:01,480 Speaker 1: because then I see I've seen an nobody, I mean 3031 02:24:01,520 --> 02:24:05,800 Speaker 1: a goddamn nobody literally on Twitter drop a mean coin 3032 02:24:05,840 --> 02:24:09,760 Speaker 1: and go up to fifty million dollars, right, But no utility, 3033 02:24:09,879 --> 02:24:12,520 Speaker 1: no promise, is nothing that means fifty million dollars worth 3034 02:24:12,520 --> 02:24:15,560 Speaker 1: of money went into that. Now, you can't tell me 3035 02:24:15,560 --> 02:24:17,800 Speaker 1: as an artist being one of the most influential in 3036 02:24:17,840 --> 02:24:20,760 Speaker 1: the world, right, if you got the ability to drop 3037 02:24:20,800 --> 02:24:24,160 Speaker 1: an album, this album is represented right by your attention 3038 02:24:24,240 --> 02:24:27,240 Speaker 1: and your influence, right, And this is the utility everybody 3039 02:24:27,240 --> 02:24:30,440 Speaker 1: who buy into my goddamn coin, there's actual mutility. Too 3040 02:24:30,520 --> 02:24:32,840 Speaker 1: much money you think you're gonna make from that, You 3041 02:24:32,840 --> 02:24:35,440 Speaker 1: will make more money than any musician in the history 3042 02:24:35,480 --> 02:24:38,320 Speaker 1: of time of one album, of one goddamn song. 3043 02:24:39,120 --> 02:24:41,680 Speaker 2: We walk of a song that's wrong. By the coin, 3044 02:24:41,760 --> 02:24:42,480 Speaker 2: you get the song. 3045 02:24:42,840 --> 02:24:44,879 Speaker 1: And then you can decide to add any other value. 3046 02:24:45,280 --> 02:24:47,600 Speaker 2: And if Kendrick does that, everyone's buying the coin. 3047 02:24:47,680 --> 02:24:50,400 Speaker 1: Well, look at how Kanye West became a billionaire. Again. 3048 02:24:50,640 --> 02:24:52,280 Speaker 1: And I always said Kanye West is a billing a 3049 02:24:52,360 --> 02:24:54,560 Speaker 1: regardless of Adidas, because he brought the value. 3050 02:24:54,760 --> 02:24:56,279 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, so, but What. 3051 02:24:56,120 --> 02:25:00,920 Speaker 1: Did he do though, so Kanye West, he dropped them. 3052 02:25:00,920 --> 02:25:02,480 Speaker 1: He was complaining, he went through all of the things 3053 02:25:02,520 --> 02:25:04,119 Speaker 1: he went through there, we've seen him go crazy. 3054 02:25:04,240 --> 02:25:06,039 Speaker 2: Never want somebody get their bank account taken. 3055 02:25:05,840 --> 02:25:09,160 Speaker 1: Away from But what did he really do right in 3056 02:25:09,240 --> 02:25:11,120 Speaker 1: a long term, is he set it up to where 3057 02:25:11,160 --> 02:25:13,160 Speaker 1: he can get all of that traffic coming to him. 3058 02:25:13,560 --> 02:25:15,800 Speaker 1: Now if he can capture that traffic, and he went 3059 02:25:15,840 --> 02:25:18,000 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. He paid with twenty million dollars 3060 02:25:18,400 --> 02:25:20,960 Speaker 1: right and then it costs him zero dollars to run 3061 02:25:21,000 --> 02:25:23,880 Speaker 1: the actual commercial. And he did it, and then people 3062 02:25:23,920 --> 02:25:26,480 Speaker 1: bought all of that. What did he get from that data? 3063 02:25:26,520 --> 02:25:28,280 Speaker 1: He got all that data. What does that allow him 3064 02:25:28,320 --> 02:25:30,520 Speaker 1: to do? Take all of those Yeezy fans and retarget 3065 02:25:30,520 --> 02:25:32,880 Speaker 1: then whenever he wants to. Then he complained to it 3066 02:25:32,920 --> 02:25:36,320 Speaker 1: and said that goddamn Adidas is stealing all of my traffic. 3067 02:25:36,400 --> 02:25:39,199 Speaker 1: Anytime I tell people to go to Yeasy, they reverting 3068 02:25:39,200 --> 02:25:42,120 Speaker 1: it to Adidas. Adida stopped doing it right then right 3069 02:25:42,120 --> 02:25:44,600 Speaker 1: after that, Now he's able to get all of that traffic. 3070 02:25:44,640 --> 02:25:48,080 Speaker 1: Now he like evaluate this, he's evaluating his ability to 3071 02:25:48,080 --> 02:25:51,199 Speaker 1: go direct to consumer and now that's worth for a billion, He's. 3072 02:25:51,040 --> 02:25:54,000 Speaker 2: Worth two point three three billion or so right now. 3073 02:25:54,040 --> 02:25:56,760 Speaker 1: Point two take that same thing on the blockchain, right, 3074 02:25:57,240 --> 02:25:59,720 Speaker 1: you create a while that, you create a dial which 3075 02:25:59,720 --> 02:26:02,000 Speaker 1: you can do in a day. You get you some devs. 3076 02:26:02,360 --> 02:26:05,480 Speaker 1: You take that same attention. Right, you drop a tweet 3077 02:26:05,480 --> 02:26:08,360 Speaker 1: on Twitter. You don't need no email list. Everybody who 3078 02:26:08,400 --> 02:26:11,000 Speaker 1: sees this is part of your email. If Kanye dropped 3079 02:26:11,000 --> 02:26:13,880 Speaker 1: a Yeasy coin, it would melt. I mean, I mean, dude, 3080 02:26:13,879 --> 02:26:16,600 Speaker 1: we're talking, come on now. So when this is what 3081 02:26:16,640 --> 02:26:21,560 Speaker 1: I evaluate, I look at your each influencer as an economy. 3082 02:26:21,920 --> 02:26:24,920 Speaker 1: If you can move the GDP, right, if you can 3083 02:26:25,000 --> 02:26:28,680 Speaker 1: influence the money of a million people, how much is 3084 02:26:28,720 --> 02:26:32,160 Speaker 1: that worth? That's worth billions? Then you have someone that 3085 02:26:32,200 --> 02:26:35,240 Speaker 1: can that's a country. Right. Then you have some people 3086 02:26:35,240 --> 02:26:37,640 Speaker 1: maybe can only influence one hundred thousand. That's a state. 3087 02:26:38,080 --> 02:26:41,760 Speaker 1: Some people that can influence ten thousand to fifty thousand, 3088 02:26:41,840 --> 02:26:45,119 Speaker 1: that's a city. Then you got small town influences. If 3089 02:26:45,160 --> 02:26:48,080 Speaker 1: each one sees themselves as an economy, because that's their value, 3090 02:26:48,160 --> 02:26:52,400 Speaker 1: is their ability to influence attention and currency. Right, So, 3091 02:26:52,560 --> 02:26:56,240 Speaker 1: then and if an advertiser pays them based on their 3092 02:26:56,280 --> 02:27:00,240 Speaker 1: ability to influence money and attention and that's how much 3093 02:27:00,280 --> 02:27:03,119 Speaker 1: your work. But you never got that evaluation, and you're 3094 02:27:03,160 --> 02:27:06,440 Speaker 1: not putting an infrastructure behind that blockchain. Give you that 3095 02:27:06,560 --> 02:27:09,360 Speaker 1: instant infrastructure to make that money and not have to 3096 02:27:09,360 --> 02:27:10,320 Speaker 1: go to nobody else. 3097 02:27:10,440 --> 02:27:13,000 Speaker 2: It's funny to think that the Hawk Tubur girl had 3098 02:27:13,000 --> 02:27:13,960 Speaker 2: the influence she had. 3099 02:27:14,440 --> 02:27:17,240 Speaker 1: Well, the Hot Tour Girl played off the fact that 3100 02:27:17,280 --> 02:27:17,960 Speaker 1: she is a meme. 3101 02:27:18,000 --> 02:27:21,039 Speaker 2: She was a meme celebrity, meme celebrity dropping a meme coin. 3102 02:27:21,080 --> 02:27:23,680 Speaker 1: So it made sense because it was cheap attention. And 3103 02:27:23,720 --> 02:27:25,920 Speaker 1: I thought anybody that got mad at her, you only 3104 02:27:25,959 --> 02:27:27,240 Speaker 1: followed her because she was a meme. 3105 02:27:27,360 --> 02:27:30,440 Speaker 2: I'm not even sure she ate like she probably should 3106 02:27:30,480 --> 02:27:33,360 Speaker 2: have off that. I think the developers probably was. 3107 02:27:33,400 --> 02:27:36,600 Speaker 1: Developers and I'm sure inside snipers that got her a Yeah. 3108 02:27:36,640 --> 02:27:39,760 Speaker 2: It's funny because I uh, maybe five six months ago, 3109 02:27:40,320 --> 02:27:43,000 Speaker 2: I was telling the homies, I'm like, bro, we got 3110 02:27:43,000 --> 02:27:44,680 Speaker 2: to I don't know how to do a mean coin, 3111 02:27:44,879 --> 02:27:47,320 Speaker 2: but we gotta do a Baron coin. I was like, 3112 02:27:48,040 --> 02:27:50,600 Speaker 2: this is like and then even even like two. 3113 02:27:50,440 --> 02:27:53,200 Speaker 1: Months ago, you could make a mean coin instantly, I 3114 02:27:53,240 --> 02:27:56,920 Speaker 1: was like, yo, and there's no Barren coin. And my 3115 02:27:56,959 --> 02:27:59,640 Speaker 1: homie popped up and went off and I was like, full, 3116 02:28:01,000 --> 02:28:02,840 Speaker 1: we should have did the barren coin. Yeah. 3117 02:28:02,920 --> 02:28:07,040 Speaker 2: Now obviously there's like you know, however you feel about 3118 02:28:07,080 --> 02:28:08,959 Speaker 2: like hitting a quick look like that off of people 3119 02:28:09,000 --> 02:28:11,960 Speaker 2: who buy into that shit. I don't know, but it's 3120 02:28:12,280 --> 02:28:14,000 Speaker 2: there's there's opportunities. 3121 02:28:14,320 --> 02:28:16,520 Speaker 1: Well, and here's the thing, there's no reason you can't 3122 02:28:16,520 --> 02:28:18,720 Speaker 1: make it long term and actually do something impactful with 3123 02:28:18,760 --> 02:28:20,920 Speaker 1: the money. I think that the biggest problem that I 3124 02:28:20,959 --> 02:28:22,720 Speaker 1: see with the mean coin industry is that where does 3125 02:28:22,760 --> 02:28:25,120 Speaker 1: the money go? Yeah, like once it's gone, right, you 3126 02:28:25,200 --> 02:28:28,360 Speaker 1: got these little degeneras just sitting in a computer and 3127 02:28:28,360 --> 02:28:30,920 Speaker 1: you feel me watching porn, making goddamn millions of dollars 3128 02:28:30,959 --> 02:28:34,000 Speaker 1: and do nothing effective to society. I would love to 3129 02:28:34,080 --> 02:28:36,959 Speaker 1: see somebody actually win off of it, that would do 3130 02:28:37,000 --> 02:28:39,600 Speaker 1: something beneficial to the world. We're doing all of these 3131 02:28:39,600 --> 02:28:42,520 Speaker 1: benefit concepts for fire victims while there's hundreds of millions 3132 02:28:42,520 --> 02:28:45,560 Speaker 1: of dollars going into coins, Right, who is this new 3133 02:28:45,600 --> 02:28:47,800 Speaker 1: class of money? The truth of it is is behind 3134 02:28:47,840 --> 02:28:50,800 Speaker 1: these coins is these vcs. Right, there's hundreds of millions 3135 02:28:50,800 --> 02:28:53,400 Speaker 1: of dollars in these firms and they're propping the coins up. 3136 02:28:53,760 --> 02:28:56,039 Speaker 1: So what they do is they're set up a bot. 3137 02:28:56,200 --> 02:28:58,760 Speaker 1: The bot would then make it look like organic activity 3138 02:28:58,760 --> 02:29:02,240 Speaker 1: through different way. Yeah, you'll see these Twitter right pull 3139 02:29:02,760 --> 02:29:05,600 Speaker 1: on the for you. Yeah, they got bots and I'm 3140 02:29:05,640 --> 02:29:07,959 Speaker 1: talking about the boss that connected to a wallet that's 3141 02:29:08,000 --> 02:29:10,640 Speaker 1: buying it. Yeah, to make it look like it's going up. 3142 02:29:10,720 --> 02:29:13,920 Speaker 1: So now when you buying, you actually liquidity for them. 3143 02:29:14,320 --> 02:29:17,039 Speaker 1: There's a site called pump fund that everybody utilizes. You 3144 02:29:17,080 --> 02:29:19,160 Speaker 1: connect the fantom wilet, you can create a coin under 3145 02:29:19,160 --> 02:29:21,760 Speaker 1: five minutes. Then there's a site called fund your Meme. 3146 02:29:21,920 --> 02:29:24,480 Speaker 1: Fund your Meme is a little more sophisticated in the 3147 02:29:24,520 --> 02:29:28,080 Speaker 1: sense that you can control the token economics on the 3148 02:29:28,080 --> 02:29:31,520 Speaker 1: back end. Right. So essentially, if you got an idea 3149 02:29:31,800 --> 02:29:35,920 Speaker 1: and instead of funding a project on I forgot the 3150 02:29:35,959 --> 02:29:37,840 Speaker 1: other site that they got. But the fund your meme 3151 02:29:37,959 --> 02:29:39,960 Speaker 1: is saying that, listen, you want to do the barn coin. 3152 02:29:40,040 --> 02:29:42,480 Speaker 1: Your homies they put up money and say you initially 3153 02:29:42,480 --> 02:29:45,240 Speaker 1: want to raise fifty thousand for it. So each person 3154 02:29:45,280 --> 02:29:46,959 Speaker 1: in your group is putting a little money in and 3155 02:29:47,000 --> 02:29:49,960 Speaker 1: they represent the liquidity, the money that builds it up. Right, 3156 02:29:50,320 --> 02:29:53,040 Speaker 1: And so then when your coin drop is already at 3157 02:29:53,080 --> 02:29:55,720 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars market cap already at one hundred thousand 3158 02:29:55,760 --> 02:29:58,879 Speaker 1: dollars market cap. So now you as an investor that's 3159 02:29:58,920 --> 02:30:00,959 Speaker 1: looking for coins, you see it and be like, oh snap, 3160 02:30:01,000 --> 02:30:03,720 Speaker 1: this coin going up. So now you start buying in. 3161 02:30:03,800 --> 02:30:06,000 Speaker 1: That becomes a trickle effect. You go to your telegram, 3162 02:30:06,040 --> 02:30:09,320 Speaker 1: your Twitter, your Instagram, you sharing it the same way 3163 02:30:09,400 --> 02:30:11,560 Speaker 1: a post goes viral. Is down there, the same way 3164 02:30:11,560 --> 02:30:13,840 Speaker 1: a coin go viral. You feel me, and then that 3165 02:30:13,920 --> 02:30:16,120 Speaker 1: attention gets converted into currency. 3166 02:30:16,680 --> 02:30:20,800 Speaker 2: It's an interesting matter of cashing out before right before 3167 02:30:20,840 --> 02:30:23,920 Speaker 2: the you know, the inevitable, and. 3168 02:30:23,879 --> 02:30:26,000 Speaker 1: So you can do it that way, or you can 3169 02:30:26,000 --> 02:30:28,800 Speaker 1: take a mean coin and you can connect it to 3170 02:30:29,080 --> 02:30:31,640 Speaker 1: a dial. So let's say it goes up and we 3171 02:30:31,800 --> 02:30:34,440 Speaker 1: taking five percent of this and putting into a treasury. 3172 02:30:34,800 --> 02:30:36,800 Speaker 1: So regardless of what happens, we go lock a certain 3173 02:30:36,800 --> 02:30:39,280 Speaker 1: amount of money in and then I'll let y'all vote 3174 02:30:39,280 --> 02:30:41,520 Speaker 1: on what y'all want to do with it. Right, you 3175 02:30:41,600 --> 02:30:43,760 Speaker 1: give them a couple of options. Well, listen, I want 3176 02:30:43,760 --> 02:30:45,920 Speaker 1: to do this real estate project. We got fifty million 3177 02:30:45,959 --> 02:30:47,880 Speaker 1: in here, y'all want to build it. This is the 3178 02:30:47,920 --> 02:30:49,840 Speaker 1: way my mind works when I look at these things, 3179 02:30:50,040 --> 02:30:53,080 Speaker 1: like we're gonna go plain about shit, we go boycott Target. Okay, 3180 02:30:53,480 --> 02:30:55,720 Speaker 1: but what's a better target. You know what I'm saying, 3181 02:30:55,800 --> 02:30:58,480 Speaker 1: Save your goddamn self. Let's go utilize this blockchain to 3182 02:30:58,480 --> 02:31:01,640 Speaker 1: build infrastructure projects to where we can take the attention 3183 02:31:01,760 --> 02:31:04,960 Speaker 1: on things and we can get them instantly funded. It 3184 02:31:05,000 --> 02:31:07,640 Speaker 1: only makes sense to me. I've been teaching this for 3185 02:31:07,720 --> 02:31:09,840 Speaker 1: years now, is just to focus on fuck it, I'm 3186 02:31:09,840 --> 02:31:11,920 Speaker 1: just gonna build this shit it. We don't like to 3187 02:31:11,959 --> 02:31:13,160 Speaker 1: listen to stuff when it's early. 3188 02:31:14,040 --> 02:31:15,599 Speaker 2: How do we stop letting. 3189 02:31:16,920 --> 02:31:17,200 Speaker 1: Letting? 3190 02:31:17,320 --> 02:31:21,800 Speaker 2: Uh? Just I feel like it's so easy for you know, 3191 02:31:23,080 --> 02:31:25,480 Speaker 2: I would say this last political cycle, what happened again? 3192 02:31:25,560 --> 02:31:26,800 Speaker 2: I felt like there was like a point in time 3193 02:31:26,800 --> 02:31:30,320 Speaker 2: where everybody was kind of I wouldn't necessarily say not divided, 3194 02:31:30,360 --> 02:31:32,560 Speaker 2: but kind of like more like, you know, kind of 3195 02:31:32,560 --> 02:31:34,640 Speaker 2: moving a little bit in the same direction in terms 3196 02:31:34,640 --> 02:31:36,280 Speaker 2: of like not liking the way things were going. And 3197 02:31:36,320 --> 02:31:39,800 Speaker 2: then as soon as the flip was switched and Kamala 3198 02:31:39,959 --> 02:31:42,680 Speaker 2: got put in, and it just turned into this whole 3199 02:31:42,760 --> 02:31:46,760 Speaker 2: like I saw pundits and personalities I respect just flip 3200 02:31:46,879 --> 02:31:50,080 Speaker 2: like right away and like fall in line with whatever 3201 02:31:50,160 --> 02:31:52,199 Speaker 2: narrative each side would want you to fall in line. 3202 02:31:52,040 --> 02:31:55,240 Speaker 1: With it, because it was always fake. If you if 3203 02:31:55,240 --> 02:31:59,000 Speaker 1: you're getting paid to push something that's fake. If you're 3204 02:31:59,000 --> 02:32:01,000 Speaker 1: already aligned with it and you happen to get paid, 3205 02:32:01,000 --> 02:32:04,720 Speaker 1: that's different. But let's be honest. Most rappers who took 3206 02:32:04,760 --> 02:32:07,480 Speaker 1: money for Kamala, they don't leave in Kamala. They didn't 3207 02:32:07,520 --> 02:32:09,800 Speaker 1: care about nothing she was talking about. But it was 3208 02:32:09,840 --> 02:32:12,600 Speaker 1: a good check. And that what happens on both sides. 3209 02:32:12,840 --> 02:32:15,840 Speaker 1: They're giving good checks, so guess what you go get 3210 02:32:15,879 --> 02:32:18,840 Speaker 1: in line. But then what you realize is that they're 3211 02:32:18,840 --> 02:32:21,360 Speaker 1: more incentivized for Donald Trump to be in office because 3212 02:32:21,360 --> 02:32:23,960 Speaker 1: they go benefit because a lot of them got some money, right, 3213 02:32:24,000 --> 02:32:25,720 Speaker 1: so when he get in office, they're like, well, shit, 3214 02:32:25,760 --> 02:32:28,040 Speaker 1: Kamala gave me money, but Trump will help me make money. 3215 02:32:28,480 --> 02:32:31,400 Speaker 1: You feel me, So again it becomes just capitalism. I 3216 02:32:31,400 --> 02:32:34,400 Speaker 1: think what we have to do right, And this is 3217 02:32:34,400 --> 02:32:37,400 Speaker 1: why I don't believe in all of this superficial unity, 3218 02:32:37,760 --> 02:32:40,160 Speaker 1: because it's fake. If you got to force people to 3219 02:32:40,200 --> 02:32:42,760 Speaker 1: do something, then it's not real. You find people that's 3220 02:32:42,840 --> 02:32:46,080 Speaker 1: already aligne and I think that those who think that 3221 02:32:46,120 --> 02:32:48,480 Speaker 1: their line got to stop being afraid to actually work 3222 02:32:48,520 --> 02:32:50,680 Speaker 1: together and build shit behind the scenes. It's not that 3223 02:32:50,720 --> 02:32:53,560 Speaker 1: goddamn hard bro A reason I think like. The way 3224 02:32:53,600 --> 02:32:55,720 Speaker 1: I think is because growing up in Oakland, I've seen 3225 02:32:55,720 --> 02:32:58,040 Speaker 1: a man do stuff like this, Right, I didn't grow 3226 02:32:58,080 --> 02:33:00,360 Speaker 1: up looking at the Civil Rights era. I grew up 3227 02:33:00,400 --> 02:33:03,039 Speaker 1: looking at black Muslims that have money and power. So 3228 02:33:03,240 --> 02:33:05,879 Speaker 1: as a child, I'm looking at we riding down Oakland 3229 02:33:06,160 --> 02:33:09,039 Speaker 1: in an all black motor K ten cars deep. You 3230 02:33:09,080 --> 02:33:12,000 Speaker 1: feel me hopping out in every hood, drilling, showing militant discipline. 3231 02:33:12,040 --> 02:33:16,240 Speaker 1: And then this guy owns schools and restaurants and security firms. 3232 02:33:16,440 --> 02:33:18,520 Speaker 1: So on my mind, this is what black people can do. 3233 02:33:19,120 --> 02:33:21,200 Speaker 1: Most people ain't grow up with that. You feel me 3234 02:33:21,280 --> 02:33:23,160 Speaker 1: be also grew up in the hoods of Saint Louis 3235 02:33:23,520 --> 02:33:25,320 Speaker 1: and in different hoods in Oakland, so I get a 3236 02:33:25,320 --> 02:33:29,160 Speaker 1: different nuance. Also have corporate jobs, also hustled in the streets. 3237 02:33:29,400 --> 02:33:34,520 Speaker 1: I've been locked up. I didn't live vicarious different hats 3238 02:33:34,520 --> 02:33:35,119 Speaker 1: and experience. 3239 02:33:35,280 --> 02:33:37,440 Speaker 2: You have real perspective, which a lot of people don't. 3240 02:33:37,840 --> 02:33:40,960 Speaker 1: So it's also why I think so goddamned differently. And 3241 02:33:41,040 --> 02:33:44,520 Speaker 1: the mainstream thought process is a loser's mindset, and so 3242 02:33:44,680 --> 02:33:47,000 Speaker 1: for me it's like, no, everything we should be thinking 3243 02:33:47,040 --> 02:33:49,160 Speaker 1: about doing right now behind the scenes is how do 3244 02:33:49,200 --> 02:33:54,120 Speaker 1: we organize and execute. Right? How do we buy assets collectively? Right? 3245 02:33:54,320 --> 02:33:57,120 Speaker 1: Everybody don't need to be involved, but those who you 3246 02:33:57,200 --> 02:34:00,560 Speaker 1: findly have common insurance values, resources, and network or have 3247 02:34:00,680 --> 02:34:03,240 Speaker 1: your conversations behind the scenes include me in them. If 3248 02:34:03,240 --> 02:34:05,400 Speaker 1: it makes sense, you feel me in. Let's build. 3249 02:34:05,680 --> 02:34:07,119 Speaker 2: Have you been able to build a Snoop? It all? 3250 02:34:07,840 --> 02:34:09,840 Speaker 1: Me and Snoop met a couple of times. I'm waiting 3251 02:34:09,840 --> 02:34:11,320 Speaker 1: on Snoop to come on the platform. 3252 02:34:11,520 --> 02:34:13,920 Speaker 2: I guess it was a little it was. I hated 3253 02:34:13,959 --> 02:34:19,120 Speaker 2: to see like some of the collective like outrage about 3254 02:34:19,120 --> 02:34:21,320 Speaker 2: Snoop performing at David sax event. I'm like, you know, 3255 02:34:21,400 --> 02:34:24,200 Speaker 2: David Saxes his boy like Snoop is one of the 3256 02:34:24,240 --> 02:34:28,080 Speaker 2: most crypto forward thinking artists there is. And I felt 3257 02:34:28,160 --> 02:34:31,320 Speaker 2: like the narrative of it being like an official inauguration 3258 02:34:31,440 --> 02:34:34,440 Speaker 2: event on CNN, like you would see on CNN Snoop 3259 02:34:34,480 --> 02:34:39,080 Speaker 2: Doggs performing at the inauguration as opposed to the crypto 3260 02:34:39,200 --> 02:34:42,360 Speaker 2: ball in honor of the first crypto president who wasn't 3261 02:34:42,360 --> 02:34:42,840 Speaker 2: even there. 3262 02:34:43,480 --> 02:34:47,000 Speaker 1: I look at it like this, You cannot hold anybody 3263 02:34:47,080 --> 02:34:50,920 Speaker 1: accountable if there's no collective agreement on what the coach is, 3264 02:34:51,800 --> 02:34:54,880 Speaker 1: what our values are, what our agenda is Otherwise, it's 3265 02:34:54,959 --> 02:35:00,520 Speaker 1: just momentary outrage without any enforceable consequences, right, get mad 3266 02:35:00,560 --> 02:35:02,520 Speaker 1: as new for a moment and deal with what does 3267 02:35:02,560 --> 02:35:06,720 Speaker 1: it matter? We think that our emotional outrage means something, right, 3268 02:35:07,400 --> 02:35:10,560 Speaker 1: We we like there's a I've had my issues with 3269 02:35:10,680 --> 02:35:13,560 Speaker 1: Isaac Hayes as a human being, as a person, things 3270 02:35:13,560 --> 02:35:17,920 Speaker 1: that he's saying he do. But I would be hypocritical 3271 02:35:18,440 --> 02:35:23,800 Speaker 1: to go on Instagram and push Boycotten companies, right, and 3272 02:35:23,840 --> 02:35:25,760 Speaker 1: then not acknowledge that there's a black man with his 3273 02:35:25,840 --> 02:35:30,400 Speaker 1: own app fan base. Yeah, so, and that's somebody I 3274 02:35:30,400 --> 02:35:32,720 Speaker 1: don't even agree with, and I don't mind speaking about 3275 02:35:32,720 --> 02:35:35,959 Speaker 1: their platform because it still aligns with my values. Do yourself, 3276 02:35:36,080 --> 02:35:38,680 Speaker 1: save yourself. So I think that a lot of the 3277 02:35:38,720 --> 02:35:41,720 Speaker 1: shit that we be talking about be fake because Mark 3278 02:35:41,800 --> 02:35:45,680 Speaker 1: Zuckerberg is doing DEI. Twitter is with the DEI or 3279 02:35:45,680 --> 02:35:48,599 Speaker 1: against the DEI, but we still utilize their platforms. 3280 02:35:49,040 --> 02:35:50,280 Speaker 2: Right, it's selective outrages. 3281 02:35:50,640 --> 02:35:53,840 Speaker 1: The selective outrage is not powerful, right, You gotta stand 3282 02:35:53,879 --> 02:35:55,480 Speaker 1: on something. To stand on that one hundred person, I. 3283 02:35:55,440 --> 02:35:58,119 Speaker 2: Would you just like to have seen equal outrage towards 3284 02:35:58,160 --> 02:36:00,440 Speaker 2: a guy like like like we talked about and that 3285 02:36:00,560 --> 02:36:04,480 Speaker 2: moment with Trump, like y'all really were like melting Snooped 3286 02:36:04,480 --> 02:36:06,640 Speaker 2: all now, And it's like, yo, like. 3287 02:36:06,600 --> 02:36:10,000 Speaker 1: Because that goes against the narrative that they have that 3288 02:36:10,120 --> 02:36:12,879 Speaker 1: black men are the issue. They want to paint all 3289 02:36:12,920 --> 02:36:16,680 Speaker 1: black men that's the issue. Right. They look at Barack 3290 02:36:16,720 --> 02:36:19,160 Speaker 1: Obama as the outlier. They can't take the hero down. 3291 02:36:19,200 --> 02:36:21,360 Speaker 1: He represents that civil rights demo. 3292 02:36:21,680 --> 02:36:24,080 Speaker 2: I even think it's even worse to have taken money 3293 02:36:24,640 --> 02:36:27,840 Speaker 2: to peddle a candidate that you don't believe in. 3294 02:36:29,000 --> 02:36:32,360 Speaker 1: Now, Nelly was wilding. Oh yeah, Nelly was wild. You know, 3295 02:36:32,400 --> 02:36:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm from from the Litis. He was wildly. He talking 3296 02:36:34,800 --> 02:36:38,959 Speaker 1: about his constitutional duty. I'm a patriot and now, hey, brother, 3297 02:36:39,000 --> 02:36:40,920 Speaker 1: you wild. You're saying too much. We wouldn't even feel 3298 02:36:40,959 --> 02:36:45,000 Speaker 1: bad for because she caught. She she caught. Nobody was 3299 02:36:45,040 --> 02:36:47,920 Speaker 1: even asking. Nobody really was t You didn't even need 3300 02:36:47,920 --> 02:36:50,040 Speaker 1: to say nothing. Yeah, we we were talking about Snoop. 3301 02:36:50,200 --> 02:36:53,280 Speaker 1: Yeah that's what we was paying attention to. Nelly just 3302 02:36:53,360 --> 02:36:56,760 Speaker 1: jumped out the ways like I'm a patriot. Yeah, brother, relaxed. 3303 02:36:56,800 --> 02:36:59,480 Speaker 1: You're taking them country albums too far, you know, I said. 3304 02:37:00,200 --> 02:37:02,959 Speaker 1: But the thing was Snoop. The reason that Snoop got 3305 02:37:02,959 --> 02:37:05,080 Speaker 1: the backlash, and I don't think it's a bad thing 3306 02:37:05,200 --> 02:37:07,080 Speaker 1: to get backlash for things you do in the public, 3307 02:37:07,840 --> 02:37:10,480 Speaker 1: because you know, then you just rewind. My thing is this, 3308 02:37:10,720 --> 02:37:12,360 Speaker 1: but he did. I ain't gonna lie. I like Snoop, 3309 02:37:12,400 --> 02:37:14,760 Speaker 1: I love Snoop. That's Snoop. But he did go hard 3310 02:37:14,800 --> 02:37:18,000 Speaker 1: on Kanye. He went hard on Kanye. He did he 3311 02:37:18,040 --> 02:37:20,680 Speaker 1: called him a jigga bu tap dancing. 3312 02:37:20,879 --> 02:37:22,920 Speaker 2: My thing is, it's not the bad it's not the 3313 02:37:23,600 --> 02:37:28,080 Speaker 2: backlash that I don't like. It's the the inaccurate narrative 3314 02:37:28,160 --> 02:37:32,720 Speaker 2: that that just removes the context and the full details 3315 02:37:32,720 --> 02:37:34,240 Speaker 2: and nuance of the situation. 3316 02:37:34,720 --> 02:37:37,480 Speaker 1: Well, you're not gonna ever get critical thinking, which if 3317 02:37:37,480 --> 02:37:39,640 Speaker 1: you want to control media, which you because you can 3318 02:37:39,720 --> 02:37:42,040 Speaker 1: reach out to reach out to keV, reach out to Keys, 3319 02:37:42,080 --> 02:37:43,920 Speaker 1: reach out to Joe Budden, reach out to all of 3320 02:37:44,000 --> 02:37:46,040 Speaker 1: us that's in the media space. Give us the real story. 3321 02:37:46,120 --> 02:37:49,080 Speaker 1: Let us run that. W rappers want to get real 3322 02:37:49,160 --> 02:37:51,760 Speaker 1: narratives out there based on what really happened. NBA players 3323 02:37:51,920 --> 02:37:54,200 Speaker 1: will reach out to the goddamn independent media and give 3324 02:37:54,240 --> 02:37:57,440 Speaker 1: them the scoop. Otherwise, you deserve to be misrepresented in 3325 02:37:57,480 --> 02:37:59,240 Speaker 1: the media. You know what I mean? How else we 3326 02:37:59,280 --> 02:38:02,439 Speaker 1: supposed to get the true story. It's supposed to be misrepresented. 3327 02:38:02,480 --> 02:38:05,640 Speaker 1: That's legacy media going on, whatever their agenda is. If 3328 02:38:05,680 --> 02:38:08,200 Speaker 1: we want to cut through that, not only that, goddamn 3329 02:38:08,240 --> 02:38:10,400 Speaker 1: help fund those media sources so they can grow and 3330 02:38:10,440 --> 02:38:12,920 Speaker 1: become bigger. So whenever you want to control narratives, that's 3331 02:38:12,959 --> 02:38:15,039 Speaker 1: what you gotta conglomerate. Well that's what happened. 3332 02:38:15,080 --> 02:38:17,080 Speaker 2: I talked to Snoop's team and they were like, yo, 3333 02:38:17,160 --> 02:38:20,240 Speaker 2: like this is David Saxon, Yeah, David Sachs is that 3334 02:38:20,440 --> 02:38:23,520 Speaker 2: dear friend of Snoop? Yeah, Like they're like boys, yeah 3335 02:38:23,560 --> 02:38:26,680 Speaker 2: and Snoop. I mean you saw the video. 3336 02:38:26,560 --> 02:38:30,119 Speaker 1: But how is that narrative post behind his head? 3337 02:38:30,480 --> 02:38:32,280 Speaker 2: There's no mag on stage, but. 3338 02:38:32,200 --> 02:38:34,480 Speaker 1: The public goes by motion. So I think we got 3339 02:38:34,520 --> 02:38:37,080 Speaker 1: to be strategic. We know how things are going to 3340 02:38:37,160 --> 02:38:40,680 Speaker 1: be perceived. As you said it earlier, everybody is a journalist. Now, 3341 02:38:40,680 --> 02:38:44,520 Speaker 1: everybody got their media platforms, but there's no journalistic integrity. Correct. 3342 02:38:44,160 --> 02:38:47,120 Speaker 1: We don't associate whether this is a hit piece, whether 3343 02:38:47,160 --> 02:38:51,039 Speaker 1: this is scandalous piece that's pushed out there, whether this 3344 02:38:51,360 --> 02:38:55,680 Speaker 1: is sensationalist journalism right, or whether this is somebody actually 3345 02:38:55,680 --> 02:38:59,240 Speaker 1: did their research and they had four to five sources 3346 02:38:59,240 --> 02:39:02,800 Speaker 1: before they put that out there. We're just consuming things. 3347 02:39:02,840 --> 02:39:05,959 Speaker 1: So whatever emotional thing that we most likely want to 3348 02:39:06,000 --> 02:39:08,800 Speaker 1: believe and that fees the emotion of the day will win. 3349 02:39:09,440 --> 02:39:13,360 Speaker 1: You have to respond to that by setting up something 3350 02:39:13,400 --> 02:39:16,039 Speaker 1: on the back end that can be counteracting that. When 3351 02:39:16,080 --> 02:39:20,000 Speaker 1: you want to push out information, intel, information is it's 3352 02:39:20,120 --> 02:39:24,520 Speaker 1: militant right. Media is a military operation. The CIA pays 3353 02:39:24,520 --> 02:39:27,199 Speaker 1: Hollywood so much money to keep control of the narratives. 3354 02:39:27,879 --> 02:39:31,160 Speaker 1: So when you understand that, like Project Operation mocking Bird 3355 02:39:31,200 --> 02:39:33,080 Speaker 1: and different things of that nature. Going back in time, 3356 02:39:33,680 --> 02:39:37,680 Speaker 1: the most successful black leaders have their own media. Frederick Douglas, 3357 02:39:37,680 --> 02:39:40,879 Speaker 1: Marcus Garvey, Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X said up the media. 3358 02:39:41,440 --> 02:39:45,280 Speaker 1: So I'm at this point in time, you feel me 3359 02:39:45,400 --> 02:39:48,959 Speaker 1: like number one, the rappers, the NBA players, different leaders. 3360 02:39:48,959 --> 02:39:50,959 Speaker 1: We need to be having these conversations together so we 3361 02:39:51,000 --> 02:39:53,920 Speaker 1: can share this knowledge and strategies with each other. I 3362 02:39:53,920 --> 02:39:56,360 Speaker 1: had this conversation with Meek. I say, Meek, you you 3363 02:39:56,360 --> 02:39:58,480 Speaker 1: don't want the narratives to hit a certain way, then 3364 02:39:58,480 --> 02:40:00,840 Speaker 1: you need to fund your own power podcast, fund your 3365 02:40:00,840 --> 02:40:02,560 Speaker 1: own media and even got to be here. YEA, yeah 3366 02:40:02,560 --> 02:40:05,840 Speaker 1: for sure, because so like you gonna be here tours. 3367 02:40:05,840 --> 02:40:08,440 Speaker 1: Hes gonna be misunderstood through tweets. You know some of 3368 02:40:08,440 --> 02:40:11,240 Speaker 1: the greatest articulators of tours. You got to got your. 3369 02:40:11,160 --> 02:40:13,280 Speaker 2: Day podcast right now. It would crack. 3370 02:40:13,600 --> 02:40:16,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure it would. Look he can come on up. 3371 02:40:16,080 --> 02:40:18,120 Speaker 1: He invited to the high level, come sit down and 3372 02:40:18,120 --> 02:40:20,440 Speaker 1: have a high level conversation. I at this point with 3373 02:40:20,480 --> 02:40:22,240 Speaker 1: the coach, and we gotta stop acting like we ain't 3374 02:40:22,240 --> 02:40:25,400 Speaker 1: got no power. Save yourself. This is how you say yourself. 3375 02:40:25,480 --> 02:40:27,360 Speaker 2: I think we just champion people like I mean, like 3376 02:40:27,400 --> 02:40:29,959 Speaker 2: you mentioned NBA players Jaylen Brown. 3377 02:40:29,800 --> 02:40:31,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my brother. I just had his shoes on 3378 02:40:31,400 --> 02:40:34,040 Speaker 1: the other day. We had a good conversation and conference. 3379 02:40:34,280 --> 02:40:37,680 Speaker 1: You know, you feel me, media that Jaylen Brown to 3380 02:40:37,760 --> 02:40:41,480 Speaker 1: the coature. This dude has hit every metric we wanted 3381 02:40:41,520 --> 02:40:43,879 Speaker 1: an NBA player to hit. You feel me. He's like 3382 02:40:43,920 --> 02:40:46,720 Speaker 1: the j C. Hustle of NBA. Sure he started off 3383 02:40:46,720 --> 02:40:48,600 Speaker 1: that way. The difference between him and Kyrie and Kyrie 3384 02:40:48,640 --> 02:40:50,840 Speaker 1: my brother. I flew out to Kyrie a house when 3385 02:40:50,840 --> 02:40:52,760 Speaker 1: he was going through all of that stuff to console him. 3386 02:40:53,520 --> 02:40:56,360 Speaker 1: But the difference between is Jalen came in with that mindset, 3387 02:40:56,440 --> 02:40:59,240 Speaker 1: Kyrie adopted it. Later, and he was learning in front 3388 02:40:59,240 --> 02:41:01,440 Speaker 1: of the public, and when you realize when you learn 3389 02:41:01,480 --> 02:41:03,120 Speaker 1: it from the public is shocking to you, so you 3390 02:41:03,160 --> 02:41:05,600 Speaker 1: want to share what you're learning, Like, y'all don't notice 3391 02:41:06,240 --> 02:41:08,600 Speaker 1: Jalen been that way, So he gets flacked from the NBA. 3392 02:41:09,200 --> 02:41:11,400 Speaker 1: So they don't want to put him into position because 3393 02:41:11,640 --> 02:41:14,760 Speaker 1: they're afraid of a black man with consciousness and resources. 3394 02:41:14,959 --> 02:41:17,320 Speaker 1: But he said, f Nike, we've been telling athletes to 3395 02:41:17,360 --> 02:41:20,080 Speaker 1: do that. He built his own shoe. We should respect that, 3396 02:41:20,480 --> 02:41:22,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That man is intelligent to 3397 02:41:22,560 --> 02:41:25,200 Speaker 1: where he's giving speeches at Harvard and giving breakdown of 3398 02:41:25,240 --> 02:41:27,279 Speaker 1: knowledge and say, I'm gonna take one of the biggest 3399 02:41:27,280 --> 02:41:29,840 Speaker 1: contracts ever awarded the NBA history and guess what you're talking. 3400 02:41:30,520 --> 02:41:34,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna build Black Wall Street, right, Like, how do 3401 02:41:34,280 --> 02:41:37,360 Speaker 1: we not look at an NBA player like that and 3402 02:41:37,480 --> 02:41:40,560 Speaker 1: everybody exalt that so that the next generation wants to 3403 02:41:40,560 --> 02:41:42,840 Speaker 1: do that same thing when they get money and influence 3404 02:41:42,879 --> 02:41:46,040 Speaker 1: and power. You feel me like this, A lot of 3405 02:41:46,040 --> 02:41:48,200 Speaker 1: times we miss our own marks when it comes to 3406 02:41:48,280 --> 02:41:51,360 Speaker 1: us having our media platforms. We can send out sensationalists, 3407 02:41:51,680 --> 02:41:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, journalism and hit pieces and rumors about NBA 3408 02:41:55,600 --> 02:41:58,640 Speaker 1: players only want to be with white girls and waste 3409 02:41:58,680 --> 02:42:01,400 Speaker 1: their money. But get somebody that do it right. We 3410 02:42:01,440 --> 02:42:03,520 Speaker 1: don't exalt them, we don't treat them correctly, and we 3411 02:42:03,560 --> 02:42:05,920 Speaker 1: know legacy media I ain't gonna do it right because. 3412 02:42:05,720 --> 02:42:08,600 Speaker 2: They don't even I mean, the NBA is always gonna 3413 02:42:08,600 --> 02:42:12,040 Speaker 2: They're just not gonna ever Like Jalen Brown is, like 3414 02:42:12,720 --> 02:42:15,680 Speaker 2: where he's at in terms of like he's an All Star. 3415 02:42:16,280 --> 02:42:19,000 Speaker 2: I mean he's an amazing basketball player, yeah, but but 3416 02:42:19,040 --> 02:42:21,119 Speaker 2: there the NBA is never gonna push him as the face. 3417 02:42:21,000 --> 02:42:23,680 Speaker 1: In the league. They're not Jason He's supposed to. But 3418 02:42:24,000 --> 02:42:26,760 Speaker 1: the people for stat to ship even Kyrie and shout 3419 02:42:26,760 --> 02:42:28,880 Speaker 1: out to to j He you know, he from the 3420 02:42:29,000 --> 02:42:30,440 Speaker 1: he from from the Loop. You know what I mean, 3421 02:42:30,480 --> 02:42:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm connecting with him. I'll rock with him. 3422 02:42:32,680 --> 02:42:34,800 Speaker 2: No, no, but but you get what I'm saying. It's it's 3423 02:42:34,920 --> 02:42:36,720 Speaker 2: very like the NBA is like they you know, they 3424 02:42:36,800 --> 02:42:38,400 Speaker 2: they know who they they know who they want to 3425 02:42:38,400 --> 02:42:42,119 Speaker 2: put as when when you land off Star Weekend, there's 3426 02:42:42,120 --> 02:42:43,720 Speaker 2: gonna be certain faces at the airport. 3427 02:42:43,959 --> 02:42:46,400 Speaker 1: Jalen went to the Ice QB League. They ain't like that. 3428 02:42:46,440 --> 02:42:48,240 Speaker 1: When you go to the Big Three and show support. 3429 02:42:48,720 --> 02:42:51,480 Speaker 1: You feel me, NBA don't want no competition, that's that 3430 02:42:51,680 --> 02:42:54,320 Speaker 1: you want to see none of that. So when when 3431 02:42:54,320 --> 02:42:56,320 Speaker 1: you look at the people, they want to support the least, 3432 02:42:56,360 --> 02:42:58,640 Speaker 1: we should support the most because it's most likely in 3433 02:42:58,680 --> 02:43:00,879 Speaker 1: our interests out the Q two you feel me. Yeah, 3434 02:43:00,920 --> 02:43:04,000 Speaker 1: shout out to Ice Q for sure. For sure. So yeah, man, 3435 02:43:04,000 --> 02:43:06,680 Speaker 1: people like Jaalen Brown, I think he has an excellent 3436 02:43:06,720 --> 02:43:08,959 Speaker 1: representation of what we want to see in the culture. 3437 02:43:09,280 --> 02:43:11,400 Speaker 1: We should champion that more and we should force and 3438 02:43:11,440 --> 02:43:13,840 Speaker 1: everybody should be on cold about that. Like I met 3439 02:43:13,920 --> 02:43:17,480 Speaker 1: up with Shaques one time, and I remember when he 3440 02:43:17,560 --> 02:43:20,400 Speaker 1: was dogging Kyrie, irving you feel me, And I had 3441 02:43:20,400 --> 02:43:22,280 Speaker 1: to tell him, like, Bro, you know that that ain't cold. 3442 02:43:22,840 --> 02:43:25,200 Speaker 1: You feel me. You know that you got his ability 3443 02:43:25,280 --> 02:43:27,640 Speaker 1: to just call this man you feel me in cipher 3444 02:43:27,720 --> 02:43:29,680 Speaker 1: with him if you believe he's moving a right or 3445 02:43:29,680 --> 02:43:32,800 Speaker 1: wrong way right. But you know how hard it takes 3446 02:43:32,840 --> 02:43:34,840 Speaker 1: for a black man to get in position, and you 3447 02:43:34,920 --> 02:43:37,760 Speaker 1: know how they utilize us against each other. If you 3448 02:43:37,920 --> 02:43:40,680 Speaker 1: are black and media and you have power and influence 3449 02:43:40,720 --> 02:43:43,560 Speaker 1: and position, you should never use it to disrespect your 3450 02:43:43,600 --> 02:43:46,800 Speaker 1: own right. There should never be Stephen A. Smith disrespecting 3451 02:43:46,800 --> 02:43:51,000 Speaker 1: the brand of Jaylen Brown. We should never become tools 3452 02:43:51,000 --> 02:43:52,720 Speaker 1: for white supremacy against each other. 3453 02:43:53,040 --> 02:43:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think that there's a difference between like, uh, 3454 02:43:57,360 --> 02:44:01,520 Speaker 2: you know, being a commentator on sports, yeah, and then 3455 02:44:01,600 --> 02:44:06,080 Speaker 2: like some of the more like sharp attacks towards people's 3456 02:44:06,200 --> 02:44:08,320 Speaker 2: character that you that you saw with Kyrie or that. 3457 02:44:08,520 --> 02:44:10,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Kyrie a good dude, man. You know, he 3458 02:44:10,720 --> 02:44:13,440 Speaker 1: connected to his ancestral ties. You feel me. He want 3459 02:44:13,480 --> 02:44:16,320 Speaker 1: to push out that bro. You can understand his own shoe. 3460 02:44:16,360 --> 02:44:19,360 Speaker 2: Like think about the Kyrie thing though, Nike, about Nike, 3461 02:44:19,520 --> 02:44:22,400 Speaker 2: he was the best selling basketball show outside of Lebron. Yeah, 3462 02:44:22,520 --> 02:44:25,199 Speaker 2: and they were like nah, yeah, because. 3463 02:44:24,920 --> 02:44:27,240 Speaker 1: They want that power. Everybody. Look, you got yeezy, you 3464 02:44:27,240 --> 02:44:29,759 Speaker 1: got Kyrie's, you got the Jaylen Brown shoes. 3465 02:44:29,400 --> 02:44:31,640 Speaker 2: Man, And yeah, and I love that Kyrie's new shoes 3466 02:44:31,680 --> 02:44:31,960 Speaker 2: are fire. 3467 02:44:32,040 --> 02:44:34,920 Speaker 1: Everybody should be walking around wearing those shoes, right, I 3468 02:44:35,000 --> 02:44:38,920 Speaker 1: just got mine and yesterday everybody, Because what that represents 3469 02:44:38,920 --> 02:44:41,879 Speaker 1: the type of time we are the most powerful thing 3470 02:44:41,920 --> 02:44:43,600 Speaker 1: in the world. This is why it's so dangerous. Like 3471 02:44:43,640 --> 02:44:46,320 Speaker 1: I help pioneer this financial literacy movement for our generation 3472 02:44:46,800 --> 02:44:50,520 Speaker 1: to push that out there, and people don't understand how 3473 02:44:50,520 --> 02:44:55,240 Speaker 1: revolutionary that is is because if I educate the consumer 3474 02:44:55,320 --> 02:44:59,400 Speaker 1: base to shift their habits, right, then that's somebody's family 3475 02:44:59,520 --> 02:45:02,560 Speaker 1: that you to our ignorance and benefit from it. Now 3476 02:45:02,760 --> 02:45:05,320 Speaker 1: just bankrupted them. Right. If I'm teaching you about real 3477 02:45:05,440 --> 02:45:08,240 Speaker 1: estate to own your own, then you don't want that 3478 02:45:08,320 --> 02:45:11,480 Speaker 1: landlord anymore. So his family business off of you being 3479 02:45:11,520 --> 02:45:15,440 Speaker 1: ignorant and not financially literate, it disappears. So that's why 3480 02:45:15,480 --> 02:45:19,039 Speaker 1: we don't want to credit certain voices, right. It's a 3481 02:45:19,120 --> 02:45:21,760 Speaker 1: reason why there's no reason why I shouldn't have been 3482 02:45:21,800 --> 02:45:23,879 Speaker 1: awarded or some of my peers shouldn't have been awarded 3483 02:45:23,879 --> 02:45:27,120 Speaker 1: at every black organization. But they afraid what their sponsors 3484 02:45:27,160 --> 02:45:30,119 Speaker 1: are gonna think when you start empowering these young black men, right, 3485 02:45:30,200 --> 02:45:33,199 Speaker 1: So instead they would rather push a gay man, a woman, 3486 02:45:33,440 --> 02:45:37,760 Speaker 1: trans man, anything but this strong black men archetype. But 3487 02:45:37,840 --> 02:45:39,959 Speaker 1: we've been pushing, and we go keep pushing, So y'all 3488 02:45:39,959 --> 02:45:44,280 Speaker 1: can't You cannot then dog us down and talk shit 3489 02:45:44,280 --> 02:45:46,360 Speaker 1: about what you want us to do if you're also 3490 02:45:46,440 --> 02:45:48,080 Speaker 1: not the one that celebrates us when we do the 3491 02:45:48,120 --> 02:45:51,680 Speaker 1: right thing. So we at this war internally with the 3492 02:45:51,720 --> 02:45:55,240 Speaker 1: culture and saying that listen, I don't want a unity 3493 02:45:55,280 --> 02:45:58,119 Speaker 1: with the NAACP if they don't know how to find 3494 02:45:58,120 --> 02:46:00,360 Speaker 1: the voices that are different and radical and pushing the 3495 02:46:00,440 --> 02:46:04,440 Speaker 1: right movements. There's no reason that you know, every year 3496 02:46:04,600 --> 02:46:07,000 Speaker 1: they don't have a wah Street trap up there winning 3497 02:46:07,000 --> 02:46:09,880 Speaker 1: an award. They don't have an Aristotle investment. They got 3498 02:46:09,879 --> 02:46:13,040 Speaker 1: the eyl up there, master the investor for the things 3499 02:46:13,040 --> 02:46:16,039 Speaker 1: that we've done in the culture to shift it. I mean, 3500 02:46:16,080 --> 02:46:20,119 Speaker 1: we went all across the planet and sold out arenas, right, 3501 02:46:20,720 --> 02:46:23,720 Speaker 1: but not a mention. So what happens is they usually 3502 02:46:23,760 --> 02:46:25,879 Speaker 1: allow one or two to be propped up because they 3503 02:46:25,920 --> 02:46:27,840 Speaker 1: feel like this is how they can control that. Then 3504 02:46:27,840 --> 02:46:30,120 Speaker 1: you got the ogs that be talking they shit and 3505 02:46:30,160 --> 02:46:31,960 Speaker 1: it's like, well, we wouldn't have to do it if 3506 02:46:32,000 --> 02:46:32,880 Speaker 1: y'all would have did it. 3507 02:46:33,000 --> 02:46:35,920 Speaker 2: I mean, look, and from my perspective, obviously being an outsider, 3508 02:46:38,560 --> 02:46:42,240 Speaker 2: if there isn't radical change, then the bag stops for 3509 02:46:42,280 --> 02:46:45,280 Speaker 2: the people who are running these places because benefit It's 3510 02:46:45,280 --> 02:46:47,040 Speaker 2: almost like the home that's the homeless thing, right that 3511 02:46:47,120 --> 02:46:49,760 Speaker 2: we talk about. It's the same shit. There's too many 3512 02:46:49,760 --> 02:46:53,080 Speaker 2: people making too much money on the plight and the struggle. 3513 02:46:53,120 --> 02:46:57,920 Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent. Listen, advertisers control more culture than 3514 02:46:57,959 --> 02:47:01,400 Speaker 1: black leaders. Right when you go look at an award show, 3515 02:47:01,440 --> 02:47:04,879 Speaker 1: you go look at all these places, it's the advertisers 3516 02:47:05,200 --> 02:47:07,880 Speaker 1: that these people are afraid of. So you have somebody 3517 02:47:07,879 --> 02:47:10,520 Speaker 1: that work in a position they might follow in nineteen keys, 3518 02:47:10,520 --> 02:47:13,520 Speaker 1: but I wonder what are advertises to go? Think, maybe 3519 02:47:13,520 --> 02:47:15,400 Speaker 1: we don't put him there. So then they're not looking 3520 02:47:15,400 --> 02:47:17,920 Speaker 1: for who's actually impactful in the category. They're looking for 3521 02:47:17,959 --> 02:47:21,600 Speaker 1: who's safe and who's popular, right, or where's the current 3522 02:47:21,640 --> 02:47:25,040 Speaker 1: DEI going? Right? So that's what they're pushing. But this 3523 02:47:25,080 --> 02:47:28,240 Speaker 1: is why it's not efficient. So you have these vehicles 3524 02:47:28,280 --> 02:47:31,080 Speaker 1: to where it And the other thing is like these 3525 02:47:31,080 --> 02:47:34,400 Speaker 1: corporations commit these billions of dollars, but they don't actually 3526 02:47:34,400 --> 02:47:38,720 Speaker 1: deploy any money. Right when TDJ said that when the 3527 02:47:38,760 --> 02:47:40,760 Speaker 1: banks gave him all this money, where did it go? 3528 02:47:41,160 --> 02:47:43,560 Speaker 1: What happens is you go to them with ideas about 3529 02:47:43,600 --> 02:47:45,200 Speaker 1: where you want to put the money and they say no. 3530 02:47:45,760 --> 02:47:47,920 Speaker 1: So they committed over two to three years, but every 3531 02:47:48,000 --> 02:47:50,240 Speaker 1: time you come to them with an idea, they say no. 3532 02:47:50,959 --> 02:47:54,840 Speaker 1: So there's commitment without deployment. So it's all fake. But 3533 02:47:54,879 --> 02:47:57,640 Speaker 1: it gave you the pr We forgot about it. We 3534 02:47:57,680 --> 02:48:01,120 Speaker 1: don't know internally how it works. There's no efficiency on 3535 02:48:01,160 --> 02:48:02,920 Speaker 1: our culture and it needs to be ripped apart and 3536 02:48:02,959 --> 02:48:04,840 Speaker 1: looked at it from the inside and say, Okay, what's 3537 02:48:04,879 --> 02:48:07,959 Speaker 1: actually happening and why aren't black people making this progress? 3538 02:48:08,000 --> 02:48:10,360 Speaker 1: And what you realize is that the issues that they 3539 02:48:10,440 --> 02:48:13,280 Speaker 1: push in the distraction the escape got this right. It's 3540 02:48:13,280 --> 02:48:18,560 Speaker 1: the internal right, lack of efficiency, organization, structure right, our 3541 02:48:18,800 --> 02:48:21,920 Speaker 1: own understanding of these systems, that's the problem. And then 3542 02:48:21,959 --> 02:48:24,440 Speaker 1: these people that sell us out for a dollar. So 3543 02:48:25,080 --> 02:48:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna continue to build how I build, 3544 02:48:27,920 --> 02:48:30,240 Speaker 1: but I understand that we are of a limited time. 3545 02:48:30,320 --> 02:48:32,440 Speaker 1: There will be a time where it's too late. Right, 3546 02:48:32,520 --> 02:48:34,720 Speaker 1: Black people got like one or two years of serious 3547 02:48:34,760 --> 02:48:39,039 Speaker 1: asset accumulation, decreasing your spending, increasing your assets, learn to 3548 02:48:39,080 --> 02:48:43,080 Speaker 1: become more human, meaning like learning human actual skills, putting 3549 02:48:43,080 --> 02:48:45,600 Speaker 1: your head down a goddamn studying you feel me. I 3550 02:48:45,600 --> 02:48:47,640 Speaker 1: don't care if it's cool, I don't care if it's easy. 3551 02:48:47,840 --> 02:48:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't care. If you don't want to listen, that's 3552 02:48:49,840 --> 02:48:51,320 Speaker 1: on you. You ain't got to be one of the 3553 02:48:51,320 --> 02:48:53,400 Speaker 1: winners in the future. I'm talking to the people that 3554 02:48:53,440 --> 02:48:55,440 Speaker 1: be like man, you know, what keep speaking Tomorrow Soul 3555 02:48:55,520 --> 02:48:57,640 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm gonna get on it. You feel me, 3556 02:48:57,680 --> 02:48:59,680 Speaker 1: Stop chasing holes and start chasing goals. 3557 02:49:00,360 --> 02:49:03,720 Speaker 2: I love that. That's how we end the interview right there. Hey, 3558 02:49:04,280 --> 02:49:07,000 Speaker 2: nineteen Keys, come on and stop chasing. 3559 02:49:06,720 --> 02:49:08,760 Speaker 1: Hose and I need you to let me know how 3560 02:49:08,760 --> 02:49:09,680 Speaker 1: you feel about that album. 3561 02:49:09,760 --> 02:49:10,920 Speaker 2: Well I got to I'm gonna listen