WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Ready For A Youth Movement? 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:03.600 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:10.520 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:14.880 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:20.239 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:28.200 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys, 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:35.159 welcome to episode one nine seven something stop. I remember Garcia. 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:37.120 I'll be your host for today. I'm joined by the 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:42.880 usual cast, Nick Imman, David Hellman, Uh, Derek Eagleton. He's 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.320 still a part of the show. I believe he's gonna 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.760 be back next week. Right now, he's having a full 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:53.199 graduation party of three people in his family graduating, and 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.120 I believe his son is graduating from middle I think 0:00:56.120 --> 0:01:00.240 he just saw on Twitter what was going on last 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.400 week and he was just he said, you know what, 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:06.080 if I'm not wanted after what happened last week, I 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:08.959 don't miss him. Good. Oh cool. I'm sure he'll hear that. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:13.800 That's okay. We do have a lot of a lot 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:17.440 of things to discuss. First of all, Tapper's injury. He 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:23.080 suffered a concussion on Tuesday's practice. Uh, somewhat surprising to some, 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:27.240 maybe not that surprising to others due to the fact 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:31.560 that he's proud to be known to be having, you know, 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:35.880 suffering several injuries. Poor guy. I feel terrible. I love 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:39.480 the guy, but he just he doesn't get a break. 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:44.479 I mean, concussions and OTAs, that's a new one. I mean, 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.520 that's that's where you know, when you're injury prone. I 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:52.960 mean that happens, and uh, you're right. I honestly I 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.160 hate saying this. I always kind of forget about Tapper 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.559 until he gets hurt. I mean, like when he comes 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.000 back up into a headline, like I just I just don't. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.040 You can't count on him right now. You can count 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:03.880 on Chaz Green more than you can count on Tapper 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.160 right now. That's just kind of the way I look 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:10.120 at it. Yeah, I mean I'm not gonna overreact because 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:14.520 I mean, well, with this team, concussions can mean lengthier 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:19.000 absences than some But uh, you know, if it's just 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.360 run of the mill, I mean that's a that's a 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:25.160 couple of weeks and it's May thirty first, so but yeah, 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.560 I mean it's just you know, it's an unfortunate tendency 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:29.800 that he has displayed over the course of his career. 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.160 He's only appeared in one game, I think, which was 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.839 the season opener last year. Yeah, he did, he did. 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.600 It's great. Yeah, but you know it's just you know, 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.000 it's it's it sucks for him, and it's kind of 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:46.160 unfair because players don't do anything to bring injury on 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.200 themselves typically, But you know, when it, you know, the 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.360 third time in three years, you're just kind of like, okay, 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.560 man cool. He is the classic example of a guy 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.959 that will probably just at some point it'll run its 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:02.400 course and they'll move von and he'll sign with you know, 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.480 Cincinnati and have like eight sacks in a season or 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.400 something like that. I mean, he could be somebody else's 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:12.600 George Selvy. He's clearly a talented player. Yeah. Um, and 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:16.160 I think this is probably his last shot here just 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:19.000 I mean, he's a fourth round pick, third year. There's 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:23.200 nothing tying you to him significantly, and I think he 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.400 needs to have a great and healthy training camp. Um. 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:28.800 Otherwise I think they'll probably just say, all right, let's 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:32.560 call it what it is. So and and this is 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.040 this means nothing in terms of that. Like I said, 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:38.440 I mean I would expect this doesn't affect his availability 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.400 for training camp at all. So it's just kind of, 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.040 like I said, it's I just kind of a bummer 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.720 when it's in a row Tapper, and you know, the 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.560 writing was on the wall when they drafted Dorance Armstrong, 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:52.160 another fourth round pick that it's like, you know, he's 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.000 now he's got that same role that Tapper had. So 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.360 I don't think there's there's no guarantee Tapper makes this 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.000 team if he's fully healthy. He needs to be healthy 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:04.280 and have a great game. So and like I said, 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.840 that doesn't mean he won't, but it's just an unfortunate setback, 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:12.800 especially for a non contact practice. And speaking of concussions, 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.159 Jason Garrett did kind of hit on the whole Rico 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.480 Gathers topic and what happened there. We were all wondering 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:24.000 all last year why did Gathers disappear from everywhere? You know, 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.120 we didn't see him around too much. But the whole 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.000 fact it was that he suffered the concussion, and by 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.039 the time that he was kind of somewhat healthy, he 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.640 was at a point that the team was just too 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.840 far into the season to bring in a guy like 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.919 him to even give him a chance to play, and 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.120 when you have Jason Waite on the field, obviously that's 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:45.400 a given that nothing's going to happen there. But based 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:50.120 on the yesterday's practice, to me watching him this week 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.960 versus last week, I did see some improvement there. He 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.800 was making some good blogs and catching the ball not 0:04:55.880 --> 0:05:00.920 really dropping it. Well, we're y'all's observation. I mean, like 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.000 we said before, you know, he's a guy that just 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.720 stands out for obvious reasons because he's because the size 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:09.000 is there, he looks the part. Uh, he's still figuring 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:12.839 out the ins and outs of the game. Um. But 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.480 you know, I think I think this is a critical 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.200 time for him. I think the OTAs and in mini 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:21.000 camps are bigger for him than any other person, just 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:25.480 because he has to show that he's picking things up, 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.800 that he could be reliable. It is not about catching 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.120 the ball and all that. It is about making sure 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:33.839 your quarterback does not get you know, sacked because you 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.080 missed your protection and all that. So it's it's every 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.200 other little part of the game that's not about his athleticism. 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.440 It's the mental part of it. Uh. And this is 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.720 the really these are critical moments for him. Not only that, 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.960 but I think Jason Garrett's willingness to admit that is 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.960 kind of telling, because, Yeah, let's say it was Blake Jarwin, 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.920 who has been played he played college, He played tight 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.160 end his whole college career. I assume he's been playing 0:05:58.160 --> 0:05:59.920 tight end since he was like, you know, thirteen or 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:04.040 fourteen years old. Whatever. If that were him, they would 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.080 bring him back and let him. He's practicing. He needs 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.000 to practice, he needs to get better. He needs to 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:12.320 he can play scout team and contribute and give you 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:14.599 looks that is going to mimic what the opponent's going 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.039 to do. They didn't even want to do that with Rico, 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:18.760 which means they don't even trust him to do that. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.880 They don't trust him to give you good looks in 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:25.120 practice and do scout team stuff and play special teams. Like, 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.760 if you're not willing to bring him back and let 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:29.680 him practice and do stuff, that means you have no 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.279 confidence that he can even get a jersey on Sunday. 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.440 I disagree a little bit because you had to make 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.240 a decision to bring him back. You've got him either 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.600 knock somebody off the roster or cut him and put 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.080 him on the practice squad, and I don't think they 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.080 felt like they could get him through. But that's I mean, 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.800 you can't knock somebody else off the it kind of 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:50.880 you know, I mean, I don't want to give away 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:52.719 what we're going to talk about later, but it reminds 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:54.720 me of the Darius Jackson thing that I harped on 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.479 for so long. It's like you couldn't find somebody else, 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.480 Like if he was really gonna be able to help you, 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:02.960 if you had even a shred of confidence that he'd 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:04.520 be able to help you during the course of the season, 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.440 you could find somebody to get rid of. And it's 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.839 easier to say that now too, when you're when you 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:10.920 go nine to seven and it didn't matter anyways, it's 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:14.640 easier to go there's a linebacker, there's a Justin Marshalala 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:18.200 or somebody who I guess my point, you're you know, 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:20.520 there are a lot of fans out there who you know, 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.760 he can, he can do something, he can be a 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:27.000 red zone threat. He's he's the goat in waiting, whereas 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.720 maybe they're wrong, but the way they view him is 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.760 there like he's so far behind, he's got so much 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.480 to learn. That we can't do anything with him during 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:37.840 the sixth day, sixth day grind of the season. Goes 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:39.520 back to my point, this is why these are so 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:42.440 critical for him, these practices. Well, let's just go ahead 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.600 and give the quick roster update. On Tuesday, the Cowboys 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.880 released rooky free agents Malik Girl and Ed Shockley and 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:53.880 signed linebacker Pinkins. Right, Pinkins Pinkins. Yeah, to add a 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:56.920 little bit of death there at the linebacker decision. And 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:01.240 yesterday they released guard Jake Robertson and defensive tackle the 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:06.160 Quintin Osborne and signed wide receiver Mikauli McKay. Hopefully I'm 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.760 saying these names McKay. Yeah, there you go, defensive tackle 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:17.560 Antoine Woods, and your guy Darius Jackson. Okay, now yeah, 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:21.240 this brings back some question. Okay, what is going to 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:25.120 happen at the running back position? Darius Jackson's about to 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.640 go for a thousand, That's what's about that? Hey, So 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:31.520 where does that leave bow Scarbro. Well, you know, Zeke 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:33.720 may not get to play if there is Jackson's If 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:38.560 Dars jack I mean, we have to deal with this 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:42.040 with you, like, I mean, what is the where's the 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.719 one makes seem so exciting to you, to you and 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:48.520 not the other team have picked him up, it doesn't, 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.079 I mean, and I'm not dumb in the grand I mean, 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:55.000 he's he's a back end of the depth chart running back. Um, 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.160 this is more about what the Cowboys. Well, it's it's 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.440 a little bit of both. He he's Okay. For those 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.480 of you who don't remember, if you're listening to this show, 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.040 I'm sure you do. He's a sixth round pick of 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.959 the count They drafted him before they drafted Rico the 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:13.040 Great hype gathers. He had a great training camp, like 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.599 he played special teams. He was good in the opportunities 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.880 that he got. I thought he had really impressive quickness 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.800 and shiftiness. And then kind of going back to my 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.960 point about Rico, he was good enough that they kept 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:28.360 him on the roster for three months despite he never 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.880 got a jersey. He could not get off the inactives list, 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:34.280 which not trying to be mean, but like that's it's 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:36.360 just kind of a waste if you just if from 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.839 week to week you can't even get active once. I mean, 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:42.760 you're just carrying him for basically depth purposes and for 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.520 the future. Yeah, and so that says a lot when 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.400 you carry a guy for twelve weeks that you don't 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.520 think can help you on a game day. And then 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.920 you know, Darren McFadden came off of NFI and Randy 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.520 Gregory came back from suspension and they cut him, and 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.280 I bet they thought they could get him to the 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.959 practice squad and they didn't. And it was never for 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.319 me about that. I thought Darius Jackson was this amazing player. 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:07.959 I just thought the logic didn't make sense. I thought 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:12.079 it was stupid um and so clearly it worked. It 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.280 worked out. I mean, the Cowboys still have a great 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:18.120 running back. Their running back situation looks fine. And Darius, 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.600 you know, I actually talked to him yesterday. He had 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.640 a whole h He called it a really humbling year. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.960 I mean, he wound up in Cleveland, he got hurt 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.600 in Cleveland, was on IR with an ACL all last year. 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:31.480 And then as soon as he was healthy and like 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:35.240 excited about contributing their you know, ah, we're good bye 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.160 and uh. And then you know, you get a real 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.360 look at what the NFL is like when you're unemployed 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.320 and maybe only two or three teams are interested in 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.520 talking to you. Then it comes comes back yesterday and 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:50.400 gets the ball, gets one play. Yeah, gets what happened 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.520 in that place? He nothing, He didn't they threw him. 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:57.120 I mean it's fine. And the first yeah, coming back 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.400 to answer to answer your question, it doesn't mean anything. 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.800 I mean, yeah, yeah, Zeke is you still got Zeke? 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.199 And then I would you know, Rod Smith is the 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.480 number two as far as I'm concerned. But again a 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.920 lot of people were very hyped with bo. Yeah, well 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.719 coming off to draft, So what happens there with that 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:18.040 third spot? Competition? Man, And that's you know, the one 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.920 thing that we've been saying about Bow is everybody's hyped 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.000 about him because he's super talented, a known name from 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.840 a big name program. But he's a seventh round pick. 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:30.320 There's no there's no guarantee he makes this team. And 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:34.439 Darius is a guy with experience on special teams. So competition, 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.680 I mean, I'd be I would be surprised if both 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.520 of those guys made the team. And so I would guess, 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.560 if we're being real, obviously Darius is my guy, but 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:48.319 I would bet that they hope Bow beats him. Bow 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.079 is better than him in camp, I mean, what more 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:54.440 can you do? Yeah, Scarborough should be again, which well, 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.840 and I think that Darius Jackson's a great guy to 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.920 compete because Darius Jackson's a guy who can do multiple things, 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:02.679 uh and gives you a look. I mean, he's got 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:04.560 the talent to be your third running back, but he 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.800 can also he can do return, he can do all 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:08.760 that type of This is also a team that that 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:13.920 would love to play Zeke one to seven snaps in 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.800 the whole preseason. You know that's yeah, they don't want 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.360 him carrying the ball. Absolutely, anybody else I can carry 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.320 the ball to finish these games would be great. I 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:25.520 don't think it's remotely a lock that Darius makes the team. 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:27.679 And I'm not gonna go as far as to say 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.160 I would be surprised, but I would I wouldn't bet 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.040 money on it. I still, you know, I think Bo 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:36.120 Scarborough is probably the guy, but quality competition in a 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.240 spot where they wanted some other the other moves. You know, 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:44.360 I thought Osborne was doing some decent things and uh, 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.480 and Shockley was a guy that I thought had a 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.560 chance to kind of you know, be a contributor and 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.480 maybe be a special teams guy. But you know, when 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.160 when it's this early in the game and they they say, 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.959 now what we're moving on? I mean, they obviously didn't 0:12:57.960 --> 0:12:59.959 flash at all. This is the this is the time 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.320 year when you just keep churning that roster is Bill 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:05.680 Parcells used to say, and you you definitely do. But 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.880 I always think it's funny. Like you know, Stephen Jones 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.160 said it like two days ago, we talked to him 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.120 at a press conference. He's like, you know, it's it's 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.400 shorts and jerseys. It's cool to see him move, but 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:17.959 what can you really see? Well, if you don't think 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.480 a guy has got anything, you can see that apparently 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.600 because you're cutting people. Yeah, and a lot of it, 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.760 as I said with Rico, a lot of it is 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.760 more than that. It's it's just they get in these meetings. 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.240 They know who's picking it up and who isn't. And 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.480 you know that's that's a good point to things that 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.440 we see right now. But but they definitely know how 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.240 far along is this guy from from actually getting this thing? 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.920 Do you trust him? Like? No way? Yeah, it's true. 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.880 So we're in at a transition point in this Cowboys team, 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:51.640 transitioning to a youth, younger group. And we've talked about 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:55.040 Seek's role into becoming that kind of leader. We already 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:59.040 know Dak Prescott has been that leader. So Nick, you know, 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.720 for Eve and I we it feels like we're back 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:07.040 in college. We fit right in. But that right you 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:11.160 pretty much. You know, we're pretty close. I appreciate you 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.600 giving me those years back. Thank you. You are on 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:18.199 the Yeah, we're on that side big and about three two, Nick, 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:22.240 you know you're you're in another generation. Um kind of 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:26.720 different they So I'm gonna direct this question to you 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.400 since that seemed to be a theme in yesterday's locker room, 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.000 a lot of people asking everyone, you know, this whole 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.400 youth movement, how does it feel to be in there 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.280 and see all these young guys and all of a sudden, 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.640 I have all those veteran guys, and just I think 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.400 it's interesting obviously when you when you see you know, 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.400 when you've seen these guys for so many years and 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:50.960 now that they're no longer there, and who's going to 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.880 fill that role? I mean, there's always somebody that that 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:58.160 fills that leadership role or you know, feels that role 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.200 of I'm cranky all the time. I mean, somebody's gonna 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.520 do it, gonna have have um you know, these different roles, 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.160 so you know, for me, I look at it like, yeah, 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:10.960 it's interesting. But also I remember way back in the day, 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.800 like before I covered this team, the Cowboys were one 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.680 of the youngest teams in the league in nineteen ninety 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.480 two and they won the Super Bowl. If you're really good, 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.640 it doesn't really matter. Zeke can be a vocal leader 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:23.600 if you want, but you know, pick up, pick up 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.640 the first down on third and two. Keep doing that, 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:30.720 and that'll speak loudly with his actions. I think leadership 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:34.640 is important, but there's obviously different ways to lead, and 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:36.840 so somebody will fill that role. I think Sean Lee's 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.160 going to do a nice job overall. I think some 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.680 guys on offense will do that, and I think it 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.160 opens up things for a guy like Alan Hearns to say, 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.720 I'm new, but yet I've still seen a lot more 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:48.000 than a lot of you guys. So I can be 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.920 a leader and there's not this this you know, tiptoeing 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:53.720 around like who who are you? I mean, look at 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.600 the receivers. Yeah, Terrence Williams is not even out there. 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.400 He can't lead right now. Bro Deonte Thompson and Tavon 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.840 Austime to Austin hearns. I mean they've seen more of 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.680 the guys. The new guys have more experience than the 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:10.560 gallow called and Cole Beasley needs to know he's the 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.440 one guy that can that can kind of step up 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.000 and do that. I know we're going to talk about 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:15.760 him in some other ways, but you know, I think 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.160 Cole's a guy that that's been around and we'll understand 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.480 this offense more than anybody. Now, we've been wondering who's 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.040 gonna be that guy that turns into Dus Bryant as 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:27.640 far as being vocal and you know, hyping everyone up 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.960 around him. So yesterday I heard something pretty interesting. I 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.320 don't know if either of you heard this, but I'm 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.360 gonna make you guess right now. Who is that guy 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:40.720 not on offense, just in the team. Who is that 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.600 vocal guy that kind of talks trash and Dave do it? 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.880 Who is it? Hey? Oh she said not on offense. Oh, 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.800 not on offense? Sorry, sorry, but yeah, I mean but 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.680 that we can get into that. That's the Zeke I mean, 0:16:55.080 --> 0:17:01.160 I would get I love that that's Zeke's impression. Yeah, yes, 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:04.960 I would guess. Jordan Lewis Noah, I don't think so, 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:10.760 you know, not not trash talking. That all or nothing 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.080 segment left an impression on me. I don't know, Maybe 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:21.920 I need to really watch that. Um okay, this this 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:27.840 is It was hilarious. So apparently apparently he was. He 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:32.679 called himself the biggest trash talker. Okay, so apparently. And 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:36.400 then the media went up to Crawford and asked Crawford 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:40.080 about this, and Crawford of course just laugh He's like, well, yeah, 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.720 he trash. He talks trash all the time, mostly to himself, 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.560 like he's just speaking out loud. No one really pays 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.000 attention to him. He was saying that he also talks 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:53.920 trash to the law. So it was pretty okay talking. Okay, 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.880 here's the here's what I want to see when we're 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.280 at training camp and those one on one drills are 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.480 going on and it's Tacos lining up against Tyrn Smith 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:08.840 or Lyell Collins whatever, and then and then keep talking trash, 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:12.040 Like do something worthy enough for you can continue to 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.880 talk trash. If if that happens, then I think will 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.119 be A will be impressed or B will be like, 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.160 what's wrong with Tyronn? It's the back and it must 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:21.600 be something what's going on because Taco just beat him. 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.280 But if he continues to do that, I think that's 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.840 worthy of it. But I've never seen in any sport 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:32.000 and a great a trash chalker that was like a reserve, 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:34.720 like a backup. Well, maybe he won't be a reserve 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.960 unless it's that hate player for the Lakers. The hate 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:39.879 I just think the guy that for the Lakers, you 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:41.480 probably are not the Lakers. He used to play for 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.440 the Lakers. He played for Golden State's name Nick Young. 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.080 Nick Young, he's the best. He's a trash chalker who 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.000 gets like six minutes a game. He might get a 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:50.840 lot of minutes in this series. Gonna get a ring 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.000 is what he's gonna get. Well, Prawford then mentioned that 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.720 he did he has seen a lot of Grove and 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:01.359 that's okay. Is it's just the show where I ride 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:03.000 for my guys. Is that what I have to do? 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:06.720 Because I like Taco to Taco, I like him. I 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:08.280 think he's gonna be a good player. But I don't 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.280 think I didn't know. We we were like jumped up 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:12.920 to trash talking status. Some thought we were just like, hey, 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:16.800 he might surprise him. People I didn't think we're already. 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:20.040 I see it as the opposite of that, because good 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.760 Man like, uh, look, the part be the part type 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:24.520 of deal. You're a first round pick, you're in your 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:27.479 second year, you're not a nubie anymore. You should know 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.640 the scheme, you're comfortable with, your teammates and your coaches. 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.399 They need him to take I mean, they don't need 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:36.239 him to be d Law, but they need him to 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.040 take a step forward. I think we had a question 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:40.720 about this in our mail bag the other day. I said, 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.280 you know, he played thirty seven percent of the snaps 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:45.399 last year. He looked like he played better down the 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:47.960 second half of the season, but he's still I mean, 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:51.080 he wasn't what you want your first round pick to be. Um, 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.080 if he can bump that even to just like fifty 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:59.359 percent and then hopefully the bumping snaps corresponds to better play, 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:01.840 I mean you're talking. Can you know if he could 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.840 even get to like six or seven sacks instead of three, 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:08.520 I think that would be huge. And I think confidence 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:10.280 was a big thing for him last year too. I 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:12.679 don't I don't necessarily know that he had it, at 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:14.960 least what you would want from your first round pick. 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.679 So if he's got the confidence to be trash talking 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:20.399 the starters and the established guys on the team, I 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.919 think that's great. Don't don't get up, Yeah, get the 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:27.000 energy up, trash chalcolate with the d line. But I 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.639 mean I still haven't seen him trash talk with the 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:33.320 old line. Yeah, I don't. Well, let's wait untild training campaign. 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:37.040 But let's go ahead and take our first break. 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