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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome to episode one nine seven something stop. I remember Garcia.

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Speaker 1: I'll be your host for today. I'm joined by the

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Speaker 1: usual cast, Nick Imman, David Hellman, Uh, Derek Eagleton. He's

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Speaker 1: be back next week. Right now, he's having a full

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Speaker 1: graduation party of three people in his family graduating, and

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Speaker 1: he just saw on Twitter what was going on last

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Speaker 1: don't miss him. Good. Oh cool. I'm sure he'll hear that.

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Speaker 1: That's okay. We do have a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: of things to discuss. First of all, Tapper's injury. He

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Speaker 1: suffering several injuries. Poor guy. I feel terrible. I love

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Speaker 1: the guy, but he just he doesn't get a break.

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Speaker 1: I mean, concussions and OTAs, that's a new one. I mean,

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Speaker 1: You can't count on him right now. You can count

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, we are back now. Let's go over

437
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Speaker 1: the guys that didn't practice yesterday. We had shun leads,

438
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence out veterans day. Just nothing out of

439
00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: the uh, you know ordinary, It's fine, all good. Aaron Smith,

440
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 1: he just did some conditioning. It wasn't really anything injury related.

441
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: He was just out. Then we had a few other

442
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: guys that's hyped up. Good point. So Zac Martin, you know,

443
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: still dealing with the whole contract thing. We have Lewis,

444
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 1: Neil Terrence Williams, Malee Collins, Cony Italy. They're out recovering

445
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: injury now. David Irvin is still a big question mark.

446
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: We know that the whole reasoning as to why he's

447
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: not practicing out there on the field right now, is

448
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: supposedly because he's a little overweight, out of condition, And

449
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 1: to me, that just doesn't really add up, because if

450
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 1: you have a guy like that, why not have him

451
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 1: out there on the field sweating in this hundred degree weather,

452
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, playing running around with everyone, not inside of

453
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Speaker 1: the gym a condition, just working out on his You're

454
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: kind of like the old you're old school, like you

455
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: want to do two a days in Wichita falls. Just

456
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: burned that fat off. Hey, it helps. He's doing things.

457
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 1: It's not like he showed up here rolling, so I

458
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: mean he didn't, no, I know, but just like that's

459
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: just a vivid, vivid image. David Irving to me, was

460
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 1: a guy that they they love the position flex guys,

461
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: and they love that about Irving. That he could play

462
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: defensive end, he could play defensive tackle. He can do both.

463
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,479
Speaker 1: If somebody gets hurt. He's a good guy that can

464
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 1: move things around. And I think when he showed up

465
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: here he looked a lot like a defensive tackle so

466
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: and not really an end. And I think we've seen

467
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: before guys go out there and they're not really ready

468
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: to play. That's where you're gonna get some injuries too.

469
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: So he's doing some conditioning. He's getting into that point.

470
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: And this is the point of yere. Look at all

471
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: those guys you just named. I mean, if you had

472
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 1: a fingernail out of place, you're probably gonna get held

473
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: out here. So I think they're looking for reasons to

474
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: make sure you don't have to be forced out there.

475
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Speaker 1: If you're not one hundred percent, you have to be

476
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 1: one hundred percent I think to practice right now. Yeah,

477
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: that's I mean, you're old school, but this is the

478
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: new school. It's not. And I know, like there's plenty

479
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: of people that think it's terrible the way like players

480
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: get coddled. But you go out there if you haven't.

481
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 1: And Irving's been like in and out of here, like

482
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: he hasn't been here every day. He comes every now

483
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: and then, So if he's not one hundred percent ready again,

484
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: it's may why do you throw him out there and

485
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: risk that he does a real injury to himself? Where

486
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: you know, right now, as far as I know, he's

487
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: healthy and just maybe not in great condition. I'd rather

488
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: that than he'd pull a hammy or do something worse

489
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: because he's not ready to be in an NFL practice.

490
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: A lot of this could be on him because this

491
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: is a big year for him. It's a contract year,

492
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: getting hurt, I will say. I mean we talked about

493
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: this on our mail bag today too. I mean, he's

494
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: in a contract year on a one year deal and

495
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: has a chance to make a lot of money next year.

496
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: It is surprising to me that he's not in shape.

497
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like you would want to kind

498
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: of not give anybody a reason to be annoyed with

499
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: you this year. That was the point I was going

500
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: to make. Sorry. I didn't mean to take it from you, Okay.

501
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: It was like I love pick and Roll like you

502
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, yes, he if you saw pictures

503
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 1: of him when he got here, it was kind of shocking.

504
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like these guys are

505
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: big anyways. It's not like he's obese. You know, he's good,

506
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: He's fine. I just want to see him out there

507
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 1: right now. He's too fat. There you go. I just

508
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: mean that wasn't me, good old Bill. Now, I do

509
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: think Dave's right. I think that he'll get himself ready

510
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: to go and also voluntary, voluntary I know, you know,

511
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: people don't want to hear that, but it is. If

512
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: if this is an issue, if he can't practice in July,

513
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 1: I'll have a much stronger take than I do right now.

514
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: But otherwise I'm just like, yeah, okay, okay, Well, let's

515
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: just hope that's the reason. There's no thing like hidden

516
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: behind the curtains, you know, as far as off field

517
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: issues that could or affect him in other ways that

518
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: we don't know yet, but in the meantime, we'll see

519
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: what happens there. As far as the OTA, yesterday we

520
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: saw Beasley playing on the outside. So Cole Beasley has

521
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: been playing a major role, and as you guys mentioned,

522
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: he kind of has to because who else is left

523
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: as far as the veteran guys and all that. So

524
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: what were your first impressions of, you know, being moving

525
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: him out of the slot and playing him on the outside.

526
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let Dave answer this, because I don't think

527
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: it matters much at all. You might have a different opinion,

528
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't think it matters in the

529
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: sense that I don't think Cole Beasley is going to

530
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: be this team's X twenty eighteen. But what it says

531
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: to me is, and I think I said the same

532
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: thing last week. I'm just I'm super encouraged by just

533
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: all the different looks that they're throwing out there, because again,

534
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have Dez Bryant, you don't have

535
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: Jason Witten. Those are two guys that always lined up

536
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: in the same spot every time for the last decade.

537
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: You don't have that, and so I think the way

538
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: you compensate for that is to just make this offense

539
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 1: as multiple as possible. And that Cole Beasley is not

540
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: going to be running goes from the outside. He's just not.

541
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: That's dumb, and he needs to do it a couple

542
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: of times or nobody's ever gonna care if he's out there.

543
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you can run. You can run routes that

544
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: benefit Cole Beasley from the outside. I mean he doesn't.

545
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: You can do all You can do a lot of

546
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: the same stuff. Not everything, but you can do a

547
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: lot of the same stuff. And it just again, get

548
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: as many guys who can play in as many different

549
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: spots as possible. I think that makes things hard on

550
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: the defense. I think that is the strength of Dak Prescott.

551
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: I should know this number exactly at the width of

552
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: the field fifty three yards fifty three yards, they got

553
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: to use every bit of that. I think that's really

554
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: what DAK friendly is to me. Fifty three yards wide,

555
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: you use the field that way. They're not gonna be

556
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: a lot they don't have a lot of vertical threats.

557
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: They don't have a quarterback that they feel like that's

558
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: his strength. So when Beasley lines up on the outside,

559
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: I saw a play yesterday where he lined up out

560
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: there and Tavon Austin was in the slot and they

561
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: basically did a scissors route, if you will, and you

562
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: know it was Austin sneaking out to the other side.

563
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: I think moving him out there just gives him more

564
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: space to kind of work that middle a little bit.

565
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: So I they're gonna they're gonna use these players. You're

566
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of you know, jet sweeps and

567
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: all that stuff. I just think we're gonna see more

568
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: with thought here, and which I think is a good

569
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: thing when you have a great offensive line and a

570
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: running back that can just spread everything out and let

571
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Speaker 1: him run. I think that I've said this before and

572
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: I'll keep saying it. Dak friendly means five or maybe

573
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: six different possible targets on any given play, the defense

574
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: can't account for all of them adequately, and the guy

575
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: who has the best matchup gets the ball and the

576
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: other five guys shut the hell up and don't care.

577
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: There should one guy on this team that you go

578
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: into a game and say, we've got to get the

579
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: ball to him. The rest it should kind of flow, yeah,

580
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: And it hasn't been the case exactly. Zeke is the

581
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: only person on this team that mandates a certain amount

582
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: of touches in a game, and everything else is just

583
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: gravy and until somebody's until Gallup makes some plays and

584
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, we got to get him the ball more.

585
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: But even like that, but even still, I think a

586
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: big part of that equation is, Okay, let's just imagine

587
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: that Michael Gallup blows up two weeks in a row.

588
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: If the game plans not there for him the next

589
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: week and he has a bad game, that's fine too,

590
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: And he's a rookie third round pick and he's not

591
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: going to fuss about it. I think that's a big

592
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: part of that. I think that's a big part of

593
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: being Dack friendly is he doesn't have to stress that

594
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: somebody's going to be in his ear that they're in

595
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: Cover one or Cover two or what. You know, I

596
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: think that's important. Well, it's still early to know and

597
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: figure this out, especially when they have so many wide

598
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: receivers rotating around. But as of right now we are

599
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: into second week of Volta's who has that guy in

600
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: the wide receiver position that has stood out to you

601
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: at the momentum from the whole group, who would be

602
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: probably Deonte Thompson. It's not even that he looks good.

603
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: It's that, you know, and this is just me speaking

604
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: from my own perspective. Um, you know, when they sign,

605
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: it's like a vet deal. He's a journeyman receiver. It's

606
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: not it was not anything that got anybody super excited.

607
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: It's just like, okay, this guy can maybe do with

608
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: Bryce Butler did, it's a little bit of insurance. If

609
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: they don't get what they want in the draft, you

610
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: don't have to keep him. And they still don't. I mean,

611
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,239
Speaker 1: there's no guarantee he makes the team, but judging on

612
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: what he's been doing these first two weeks, he certainly

613
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: looks like a guy who's going to make the team.

614
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you think about Tavon Austin. Deontay

615
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: Thompson's been doing a lot of stuff like that too,

616
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean jet sweeps, screen stuff down the field, stuff

617
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: running with the first team, playing all over the formation.

618
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: And I know it's OTA's and I know one of

619
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: your top receivers is hurt right now, but uh, he's

620
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: just very involved and looks very competent at what he's doing.

621
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 1: I could see. And we did a ranking the other

622
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: day of the top on our on our site, top

623
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: ten receivers on the team. And it's early and I'm

624
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: sure we'll do that again we get closer to camp

625
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: or in camp. But I think that there's I think

626
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: Thompson seems like he would be a guy that would

627
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: be safe and there might be a spot for one

628
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: more player on the outside looking in, like and I

629
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Speaker 1: would put Noah Brown in there. I'd put Lance Lenore,

630
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: um whom I missing here. That guys that are kind

631
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: of right there on that verge. Maybe Katie Cannon can,

632
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: but but um, two of them, if if they can,

633
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: if they can you know, surpass Deontay Thompson, which seems

634
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: like that would be kind of tough to do at

635
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Speaker 1: this point. But it's still it's early. I mean we did,

636
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Speaker 1: I guess start I sort of in my head was

637
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Speaker 1: thinking as Deontay Thompson on the outside looking in when

638
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, heading into the cedric. Wilson's another guy that

639
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Speaker 1: could factor into that mix. I view him more as

640
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Speaker 1: a guy on the inside looking out. Now, yeah, and

641
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Speaker 1: now you mentioned Tavon Austin, another guy that you know

642
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: there are still question marks around his name. How are

643
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Speaker 1: they guy the Cowboys gonna utilize him? We did see

644
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley returning punts and that is something that we

645
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: thought that would be one of his main jobs, to

646
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: put Tavon Austin there. But as of right now, we've

647
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: only seen him with the wide receivers, just on offense

648
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: doing things. So what is how can the Cowboys take

649
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: him and put him and utilize him? And we know

650
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: the Cowboys like him, we know that the Cowboys won

651
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: him here and he's a good player, has on speed

652
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: to him, But what would be that role for him?

653
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: I think he will return punts um. I think right now,

654
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: looking at these drills, they want the guy back there

655
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Speaker 1: catch the ball and and and and be solid. And

656
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: Beasley can do that. But I think when they need

657
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: to get more dynamic, I think Austin will be there.

658
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: And also when you're looking at touches in a game,

659
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Speaker 1: I think it'll make more sense to put Austin there.

660
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: He's not gonna get a ton of touches on offer

661
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: hook gets some, but it'll it won't be enough where

662
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: he can't do punt return stuff. Um, I think he

663
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: will be that guy. And I think he's a wide

664
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Speaker 1: receiver all the way. I interill it's third and two

665
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: and he gets the ball up the middle, then he's

666
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: going to be a wide receiver for me. And I

667
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: don't know if I mean. They can call him whatever

668
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: they want, but I think and he calls himself a playmaker,

669
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: which is fine. They need more of those. I'm straight

670
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: up annoyed by what Tavon Austin has done during OTAs

671
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: or a better term for what he hasn't done. And

672
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: I assume he's healthy, Like he's out there. Um, I

673
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: mean he does, he does stuff. I'm not saying he

674
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything, but like he's not really featured with

675
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: the first team very much. I haven't been able to

676
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: get a good look at him, and I hope it's

677
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: not out of some like you know, NFL sense of

678
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: paranoia that they can't show their hand, you know, because

679
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: it's it's OTA's and we get to two hours a week, like,

680
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: and he's got five other years worth of tape. He's

681
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: been in the NFL for a long time, Like you're

682
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: not hiding him from anybody, And so I kind of

683
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: wonder if they are. I kind of wonder if they

684
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: just don't want to show people what they might do

685
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: with him. And that's just the that's the peak of

686
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: lame NFL, Like everything's got to be a state secret.

687
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: Like I can go pull up five years worth of

688
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: tape on the guy, Like you're not gonna show me

689
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: something that I already couldn't have guessed he could do. Yeah,

690
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean he and we know he's gonna have the

691
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Speaker 1: ball and he's gonna be going and you know on

692
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: the outside sweeps and stuff like that. Do you think,

693
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that's fair compared to like

694
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: the other veteran receivers. It doesn't seem like he's getting

695
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: as many looks right now. Yeah, in the one day

696
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: a week that we want what we know at a

697
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: Garrett and Lenahan, I think you're exactly right, and I

698
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: think that they don't want to show all that right now,

699
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: what about in the past other teams having trouble finding

700
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: me a good spot for him? I mean, does that

701
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: playing into this to where maybe the Cowboys aren't just

702
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: quite sure how or you know what to do with him.

703
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: I see this a lot in the NBA, and it

704
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: happens some in the NFL too. You get drafted because

705
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Speaker 1: of the things they think you can do, and you

706
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: get drafted high and you doesn't fit. But because you

707
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: were drafted high and you're making a lot of money,

708
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: they keep doing that. They keep pushing you here and

709
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: the expectations are high, and you're never gonna get there,

710
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: and you're just a bust. You go to another team,

711
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: less money, a little bit different scenario, and you can

712
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: actually fit their role. I mean, I think of a

713
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: guy like Leonard Davis way back in the day. He

714
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: was number two overall pick, had to play tackle because

715
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: you don't draft a guard that high. He wasn't good

716
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: like that goes to the Cowboys plays guard. It's better

717
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: I think Austin fresh start for him, not as much

718
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: expectations to carry this offense, carry this team, be a

719
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: good role player. You're making a million dollars. He get

720
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands, but doesn't have to be

721
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: every time. I think it'll be better for him. Last

722
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: week we got him, we talked to him about just

723
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: you know, like, whoa this offense doesn't have a number

724
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: one receiver? Does that bother you? And he was like

725
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: that that was my douchey TV reporter voice, not anyone specific,

726
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: just generic, like somebody specific. I wasn't, no, but he,

727
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Speaker 1: I mean he was like, he's like, honestly, the pressure

728
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: to be that number one receiver can be overwhelming. I mean,

729
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Speaker 1: he was drafted two spots lower than where Julio Jones

730
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Speaker 1: was drafted. I mean, just to give you an idea

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732
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and clearly did not produce that.

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Speaker 1: And so I yeah, I think he's happy to be

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Speaker 1: here where. I mean, if he has a game where

735
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: he gets ten touches, that would be awesome, but nobody's

736
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Speaker 1: expecting him to produce at that level, not for the

737
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: price they paid for him. But no, I think I

738
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: think they know exactly what they want to do with him,

739
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: but they just don't feel like showing us right now,

740
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Speaker 1: which whatever. Well, I good indicator is that we do

741
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: know that he's wanted by the Cowboys. He Oh, yeah, No,

742
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: they want him here. And Scott Nahan, Scott Nahan told

743
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: me last week, like, you know the same I'll use

744
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: the same voice, like, well, is he a running back

745
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: or a receiver? And he's like he classify him as

746
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Speaker 1: a tight end if you want to just get him

747
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Speaker 1: on the team. So if the offensive coordinators saying that,

748
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749
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Speaker 1: in terms of wanting him here and having a good

750
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Speaker 1: idea of what he can do. Oh. I love that

751
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Speaker 1: he told me last week. So that means that was

752
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Speaker 1: you that you're right act I did ask that question,

753
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Speaker 1: be cool, Scott. Okay, well, let's go ahead and take

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Speaker 1: safety position. Nick, you had a chance to I thought

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Speaker 1: we were just talking about that. Okay, you had a

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Speaker 1: chance to talk to Jeff Heath yesterday. And the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: safety position, and as of right now, they seem to

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Speaker 1: be comfortable with the guys that they have, especially Xavier Woods. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I talked to Jeff just yesterday and he was

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Speaker 1: do you feel like the starting safety next to you

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Speaker 1: only did he say that, he gave the name. He said,

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Speaker 1: Xavier Woods, you know, has the right add too. He's

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Speaker 1: He really likes the kind of things that he's seeing

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Speaker 1: well what else? What else would Jeff Heaths say? And

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Speaker 1: I get it, but he said that he and he

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Speaker 1: And I talked to some other people afterwards, because I

846
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: didn't want to make Jeff look like he was calling

847
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: the shots here. They talked to some other people and

848
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: they said, right now, there's nothing on the horizon for that.

849
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: I still think they will sign somebody, but as of

850
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: right now, it's it's Xavier Wood's job to lose right now.

851
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: But based on the things that we've watched so far,

852
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: and you know, we've all been very vocal in the

853
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: need of a safety here, Dave. I mean, do you

854
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: feel from what you've seen, has your opinion changed any No,

855
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's the same thing I always say, like,

856
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to hate on Xavier Woods. I just

857
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: I think it's strange again. I mean, we talked about

858
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: this time of the show. They brought in a guy

859
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: to compete with Bo Scarborough and up the level of

860
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: competition at the bottom of the running back depth chart,

861
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: at the top of the safety depth chart. That is

862
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 1: not happening. I mean, it's Xavier Woods's job to lose

863
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: to a surprising degree. Not that he's not capable of it,

864
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: just that typically NFL teams want to make their players

865
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: earn those types of roles, and I don't know that

866
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: there's a guy on the roster that can really compete

867
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: with the Xavier Woods between experience, between talent and just

868
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: the numbers. I mean Cavon Frasier, he's actually he's had

869
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: some moments out there, but he's more of a box guy.

870
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: He doesn't fill that role for them. And then he

871
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: got some rookies and Jamille Showers. There's just there's not

872
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: a true competitor for that spot. So the thing that

873
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: concerns me about the evaluation of safety is that when

874
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: you when you're looking at in a game, what are

875
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: the positions that are really going to test the safety

876
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: tied in? And we've seen it on this team a lot.

877
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: Also speed receivers and guys that can make plays down

878
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: the field. We've just said it earlier. The Cowboys really

879
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: don't have that dynamic playmaking threat down the field at receiver.

880
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: They don't have a tight end that's played more than

881
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: a few games on this roster. So as we look

882
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: at OTAs in minicamp. Who's going to really expose Xavier Woods.

883
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: Who's gonna make them look like, oh my god, we

884
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: need some help there. I mean, I don't know if

885
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: it's really gonna happen. So these guys could play well

886
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: in the summer and we could be like, oh, everything's

887
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: looking good, but really, until you get to some of

888
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: these games and go, you know what, maybe maybe it's

889
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: not so great. That's the one thing I kind of

890
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: kind of worry about about seeing how it goes. You

891
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: may not get a good test of how it's really going.

892
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: And I forgot somebody too. I did Mark queston huff

893
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: I think he's playing second team safety. But again, I mean,

894
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: that's not a name that just inspires a ton of

895
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 1: confidence me And yeah exactly. I mean, hey, again, all

896
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: credit in the world to Xavier Woods. And I like

897
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath a lot as a player and a person too,

898
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: But that's what people always say at this time of year. Yeah,

899
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: he's picking it up, he's getting it. He looks great

900
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: out there, he looks confident, and then you know, we'll

901
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: see what happens when we're really evaluating these guys in

902
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: real practices and real football games and The thing that

903
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: worries me is if Xavier Woods is not up to it,

904
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: then you've left yourself in a situation where you don't

905
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: have anybody else. And so no, I don't feel differently

906
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: at all. And I think they will add a safety.

907
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: I think they will add a safety before we go

908
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: to training camp or while we're at training camp. I

909
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: don't know if that guy will take the starting job.

910
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, Xavier Woods might beat him

911
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, but I still think

912
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: they need a guy to push him. And that's what

913
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: I was going to ask. It's like, you guys have

914
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: been here a long time, so you know how the

915
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: cowboys thing kind of you know what their mentality is.

916
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: Is this something that you really, you know, expect them

917
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: to actually get someone although they been saying they're okay

918
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, and I've said it before. I think

919
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: that what you need to get at that position is

920
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: somebody that's played a lot can give you some leadership

921
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: back there. And the longer they wait, the less chance

922
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: that that person is going to have to come in

923
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 1: and really take these guys under their wing, because they're

924
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 1: gonna be the new guy trying to learn it unless

925
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: it's somebody who has played in Christopher Shard's system that

926
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: would that would help if if we gotta get in,

927
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: just we gotta get in one a week, we have

928
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: like a quota, you know, I was I was just

929
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: thinking how and you would love it, Dave. How awesome

930
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: would it be if if we lived in a world

931
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: where the guys really talk the you know, the other way. Hey, Jeff,

932
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: do you really feel like the safety, the starting safety

933
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: is here on this team. I don't think so. I mean,

934
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: I know we have a guy in there right now,

935
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: but I don't think so. I think we've got to

936
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 1: get somebody else. I could say, I don't know exactly

937
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: who it'll be. It might be that guy over here

938
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: or this guy, but um, yeah, I mean Zaver's doing

939
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: a pretty good job. We gotta get better. Like can

940
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: you imagine like if yeah, I would love it. I

941
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that. You know. Obviously, the NBA

942
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: Finals are about to start. NBA has been the big

943
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: storyline for the last couple of months, Like Raymond Greenish everybody,

944
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: I just love just I just love how forthcoming that

945
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: league is in general. You know, like you got Donovan

946
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: Mitchell and Ben Stimmons like sniping at each other about

947
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: who should win Rookie of the Year and sub tweeting

948
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: each other and calling each other out. And they're I

949
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: mean they play eighty two games in the playoffs last

950
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: three months. It's just a different culture. Like NFL players,

951
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: your contracts not guaranteed and the whole dynamic of the

952
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: league is all about like do your job, and it

953
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: just it makes for it's kind of lame something. If

954
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith would have had an awesome year last year,

955
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: just led the league and tackles whatever, could he have

956
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: won Rookie of the Year. I don't know if he

957
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: could have, but he should have been eligible. I mean

958
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: that's that's the questions simons going on here. And if

959
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: he was even listed as a rookie's like a one. Yeah.

960
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean if you don't play a single game, I mean,

961
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: if you don't get a single minute of action, I

962
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: think you're still a rookie even I know you have

963
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: an extra year in the weight room and all that,

964
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: but I don't have a problem with that. Well, speaking

965
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: of Jalen, let's go I know a lot of fans

966
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: keep asking about him and his leg and he is

967
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: playing without the brace, So that's a positive thing. Now

968
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: we've seen him, you know, on the field moving around.

969
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 1: What are some of the things, And we talked about

970
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: it last week, but people keep asking for quick updates

971
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: on him. What would be your newest update on Jalen Smith.

972
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: We'll talk yesterday to the media. But again it's like

973
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: basic stuff that I'm happy. I'm happy to have some

974
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 1: genuine confirmation about his brace because, like, I love Jalen

975
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: Smith to death, but he's a frustrating person to cover

976
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: because you can't always take his updates at his word,

977
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, he's such a positive guy. We've

978
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: talked about a million times, Like if you'd asked him

979
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: during his real rookie training camp back in twenty sixteen,

980
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: if he thought he's like, yeah, I'm gonna play the

981
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: season opener, and then it be it's like Jalen Smith

982
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: says he's gonna play the season opener, and then it's

983
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: a story and it's not true. And like that has

984
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: just been a repetitive cycle with Jalen where he is

985
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: super optimistic and the real story is usually somewhere else.

986
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: So I don't always trust that what I'm hearing about

987
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: him is genuine, but at this point, but well, I

988
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: mean we've seen it with our own eyes. He's not

989
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: wearing I mean, he's not wearing it. He's said he's

990
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: not wearing it. His coaches have said he's not wearing it.

991
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: They've talked about, you know, how fluid and confident he looks.

992
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett had a good quote yesterday about how you know,

993
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: you always hear that he looks like he's not thinking

994
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: about it, which that's a thing for a guy coming

995
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: off an injury is you don't necessarily trust that the

996
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: injured body part is going to be there for you

997
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: the way that you need it to be. And I

998
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: think he looks more confident that he can count on it,

999
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I think that's big. He plays a

1000
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: position that is also pretty hard to evaluate in OTAs.

1001
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if you can't make real contact with people,

1002
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how to evaluate you. But I I

1003
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: feel super optimistic that you know, I'm not saying he's

1004
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: gonna be an all pro, but I mean I just

1005
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: like the way his arrows moving right now. It's gonna

1006
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: be interesting to watch how his instinct developed, because that's

1007
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: one of the things that to my in my opinion,

1008
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: he needs to still work on which also affects his

1009
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: footwork because if you take off one side and then

1010
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: now you have to switch. And we know his lateral

1011
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: movement is something that he's had the most trouble with,

1012
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: so you know, it's it's like a left tackle who's

1013
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: not he's not the best, you know as a blocker.

1014
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: He's got to almost jump off sides a little bit

1015
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: just to get that extra edge. And I think that's

1016
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: what happened a lot of times with Jalen Smith, is

1017
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: that he had to guess. I mean, you have to

1018
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: and sometimes when you guess right, you look great and

1019
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: you're swiping all over the field and it looks good.

1020
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: But sometimes you have to guess to get that extra

1021
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: edge and and you miss. And I think that you'll

1022
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: see less of that and see more of just the

1023
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: reacting instinct because he's able to cut and move like that.

1024
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: So that's it. It's gonna be interesting to see how

1025
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: this goes when we get a little bit more physical practices,

1026
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: games and stuff like that. I'm excited about what Leyton

1027
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: vander esh could mean for him because I just I

1028
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: think he'll be better if he doesn't have to play

1029
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the snaps and do everything that

1030
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: your middle linebacker is supposed to do. And I can

1031
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: hear the counter argument like, well, you draft him thirty

1032
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: fourth overall, he should be able to do that stuff. Okay,

1033
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: but this is the reality of the situation. We're two

1034
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: years in, and if I told you that he's a

1035
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: much better player playing sixty five percent of the snaps

1036
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: as opposed to a hundred, I'll take that, especially if

1037
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: I can use his natural athleticism to do stuff like

1038
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: rush the passer. I just think having Layton Vanderesh there

1039
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: to help play Mike opens him up to just be

1040
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: like a Swiss army knife type of player who can

1041
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: do a lot of different stuff. Okay, that's exciting. Sorry,

1042
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 1: they've I was gonna move into the whole quarterback position,

1043
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: and a lot of people we know how this goes.

1044
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: Either you like Dyk or you hate him, or you're

1045
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: ready to move on from him. Clearly, he's gonna be

1046
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: your starting quarterback next this season, so get over here's

1047
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: your guy, here's who we have, and for ten more

1048
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: seasons after that probably well we'll see how this one goes.

1049
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: But a lot of hype around Mike White. He's been

1050
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: looking pretty good out there. Now there are questions in

1051
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: regards to him and what his future may be. And

1052
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, who becomes now your second guy behind Dak Prescott.

1053
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: So based on what you guys have seen so far,

1054
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: what are y'all thoughts on those two guys. I think

1055
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: Mike White throws a little bit a better ball. Um.

1056
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: I think he's got a better arm, and so in

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00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: practice you're gonna see that more. Um. Cooper Rush, though,

1058
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: he when the games, you know, when the lights went on,

1059
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 1: he moved the ball, he moved the offense. It didn't

1060
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: always look great, but he got from point A to

1061
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: point B and down in the end zone every time,

1062
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: and uh and a lot of times he did it.

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00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: And I think every time he did it. And in

1064
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: the preseason they were trailing in the first half. So

1065
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: he has this little moxie about him that's hard to

1066
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: to to really describe. It's a lot like what Dad

1067
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: had to a higher level year before. So I it's

1068
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: early right now, I think it in practice, one guy's

1069
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: gonna look better than the other. But I can promise

1070
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: you this, if if Mike White is leading this team,

1071
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: to two field goals in seven possessions in the preseason,

1072
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: and Cooper Rush has got four possessions and two touchdowns.

1073
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: We're gonna be thinking differently about it, or it's kind

1074
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: of the way thinking the way David is thinking. Maybe

1075
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: right now, No, you kind of you made my point

1076
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: for me, and not to be perfectly honest, like Cooper

1077
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,479
Speaker 1: Rush hasn't looked great in these two practices that we've seen,

1078
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: but I just yeah, he's a gamer. He looked amazing

1079
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 1: last preseason and he got a little, very small amount

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00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 1: of regular season experience against San Francisco, which is still something.

1081
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 1: And I just I would be surprised if two years

1082
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: in a row the backup quarterback for this team is

1083
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: a rookie who's never played. Like I think when push

1084
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: comes to shove, Rush will have a good enough preseason

1085
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: and they will value that experience enough that I expect

1086
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: him to be the backup. The thing about Rush that

1087
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: people forget about too is just his athleticism is underrated

1088
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: to me. I mean, he can make He's not exactly

1089
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: like dak on these on these read options, but he

1090
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: made some plays with his feet last year, and I

1091
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: think that's something that if he had to play, you

1092
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: can see that you wouldn't have that much of a

1093
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: drop off. You're gonna have some, but not that much. Okay,

1094
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: here's a question from Twitter. Are there any chances of

1095
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: adding a veteran as far as the defensive tackle position

1096
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: that would be someone consider splashy lash lash other than

1097
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: wide receiver and she Richard Ashy. Yeah, I mean that's

1098
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: already got Richard Ashy. Um other wide receiver in safety

1099
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: are like the only positions left in the NFL where

1100
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: there are quote unquote splashy players left. I mean, Jonathan

1101
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: Hankins is out there that Cowboys don't want him. Um.

1102
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: Other than that, I don't even know. I think if

1103
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: somebody else gets hurt or something else happens, yeah, I

1104
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: would expect him to um Brod Marinelli and Splashy defensive

1105
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: lineman just don't work. I mean, he doesn't want that guy,

1106
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't want him out. He hasn't typically and I

1107
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: mean you know, and yeah, he's he's got guys that

1108
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: he likes, Uh, you know, Brian Price, Richard ashe Uh,

1109
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: there's one more one technique I'm not thinking of. Dayton

1110
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: Jones is playing defensive tackle right now, I think I

1111
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: think that is probably what's keeping them from signing somebody

1112
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: right now is a position flexibility. Stop me if you've

1113
00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: heard that before. Um so, I mean they no sure,

1114
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: I could just say no, no, no, no, pretty simple, Okay.

1115
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: Cowboy John is asking who would be the one to

1116
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: most likely make the fifty three men roster out of

1117
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: Charles Stapper, Chads Green, and Noah Brown. Most likely of

1118
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: those three, I'm gonna I'll just keep riding for my

1119
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: guys because I love Noah Brown. I think he's gonna

1120
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: make it. Yeah, but that's a that's a good group

1121
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: of players, because um I could see I could see

1122
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: no I think Noah Brown is the answer of those

1123
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: three right there. But one of my sneaky hot takes

1124
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: for the get ready for It is I'm not gonna

1125
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: be surprised if Chads Green makes this team, and I'm

1126
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: gonna laugh at all the people who are mad about it.

1127
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be surprised either. I mean, I just

1128
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: nobody cares about me about making the team. As long

1129
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: as you don't really have to play at a position

1130
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: that's just hurt the team. I'm just playing guard. I

1131
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: think it'll be Fine, he's gonna be there left tackle

1132
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: with no help. Don't do that and learn he's gonna

1133
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: be the eighth and final alignment onto this team, and

1134
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna lose their minds. But I just wouldn't be surprised,

1135
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Now, this is a wise shot

1136
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: because we still have a lot to go through. But

1137
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: who would be the one guy as a right now

1138
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: that would be very surprising to you, someone that you

1139
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: would not imagine making the team And does it makes

1140
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: the team? Yeah? Um, like it would really surprise me

1141
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: if this person made the team. Oh well, I mean

1142
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys right now. Um, let's let's

1143
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: how to answer it differently, because you could maybe name

1144
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: seventy guys that come out of nowhere. I would say

1145
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: Jeff five years ago. How about a guy that that

1146
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: would surprise a lot of fans if he made the team.

1147
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: But but don't count this person out. Maybe that Well,

1148
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cheat a little bit and just say the

1149
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: linebacker depth chart looks very easy to figure out. Like

1150
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: it there is not a lot of room for a

1151
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: Cinderella story because you have three starters in Shaan Lee,

1152
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: Damian Sean Lee, Jalen Smith, and Layton vander esh Damian

1153
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: Wilson gives you at four. H you brought in Joe

1154
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: Thomas at to be your kind of backup and special

1155
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: teams guy. He's been starting while Shaun Lee does his

1156
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: vet days. And then maybe you keep seven linebackers, but honestly,

1157
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: six wouldn't surprise me either. So that leaves one spot.

1158
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: You got Chris Covington who you drafted. You got Justin

1159
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: March Lillard who was here last season. Like, there's not

1160
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: a lot of space for a rookie or any good yesterday. Yeah,

1161
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: now there's there's just not a lot of space at

1162
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,479
Speaker 1: that position for you know, an undrafted guy or something

1163
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: like that to to do anything. So that would surprise him.

1164
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give a name. I'm gonna go with Donovan

1165
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: in the lumba cornerback. I like that Long's he's one

1166
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: of the guys that just you know, he fits exactly

1167
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: what the prototype is and they've got a few like this.

1168
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: Now he's not the only one, but I think he's

1169
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: number thirty two. Yeah, they need a new thirty two.

1170
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,479
Speaker 1: They dude, need a thirty two. It's a lot taller

1171
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: than the last one. He's a lot taller and uh longer, hair,

1172
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: longer arms. No, he had a he had a pick

1173
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: six I think last week. Like he's he's flashed a

1174
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: couple of times. All right, Well, and he went to college.

1175
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: He went to broad US College. Is he really before

1176
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: he went to College of Scouting. No, but the college

1177
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: he went to, I forgot what. I forgot what it's

1178
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: called exactly, but it was like something brought us. It's

1179
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: the name of the university. He went. Tope, gotta be

1180
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: good right here. You going, okay, thank you for that.

1181
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: You're welcome. All right, Thank you guys for listening one

1182
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: more time, thanks so quick. And I just say, if

1183
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: you're listening right now live stay tuned because Hang with

1184
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: the Boys is coming and they're gonna have a really

1185
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: really special guest. Well, there you have it. Make sure

1186
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,400
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1187
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,040
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1188
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