WEBVTT - We hear you! 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:10.360 Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. I'm Hannah Elliott and 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:11.080 I'm Matt Miller. 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:13.239 This is Hot Pursuit. 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:20.000 Coming up on today's podcast. We have a bit of 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:22.759 a mixed bag for you. Today we're gonna do some 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:26.360 listener emails and give us a chance to respond to 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.400 all of the feedback that you give us, which we do. 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.879 Love absolutely and actually, you know, there's a there's a 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:34.720 new thing I've noticed in our emails, and you can 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:40.040 always message us at Hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net. 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:46.479 I've been getting like news Bob, a longtime listener. Bob 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:53.680 sends me stories like about comparison that Roadentrack is doing 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:59.279 the a MGGT sixty three pro versus the Porsche nine 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:02.600 to eleven GT three, which makes sense because I was 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:06.520 saying that those two are are strong competitors. And on 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:11.200 that new Hennessy supercar with a gated six speed manual. 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.679 I had kind of heard murmurings about this, but I 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:16.840 didn't know the details until Bob sent it to me. 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:20.160 So I want to encourage our listeners if you see 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.800 a cool story that you haven't heard us talking about, 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:27.120 or if you have a good idea about a possible newslead. 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.600 Definitely send us an email because it's super helpful and 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.080 I appreciate it, so thank you, Bob. 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:37.559 Yes, I agree. We love the on the grand organic 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:40.360 reporting that we get from you guys. That's like the best, 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.360 the best stuff, and it's where we get the real, 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.200 the real deal info. So keep it coming. 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:50.440 Yeah, So we'll go through some of our viewer our 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:55.320 listener emails and comments. A reminder again, the email address 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:59.320 is Hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net. We are always 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.040 excited and do read everything that you send to us, 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:06.400 even if we don't respond immediately because we're trying to 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.960 deal with other issues. I've got, by the way, a 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.120 five week old baby sitting here till so you might 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:18.440 hear him cooing and grabbing for his child. Okay, but 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:20.880 I do love these viewer emails. Plus I want to 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.120 talk about my struggle to find the perfect family car. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.440 I've been driving a lot of SUVs. I haven't caved 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:34.040 to the mini van never yet, and I probably never will. 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:38.240 But I'm finding there's a lot of interesting stuff going on. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.639 I've driven the new GMC Acadia. I'm driving the old 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:46.440 Dodge Durango, but with the three ninety two. I have 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:50.639 been looking around the Lexus offerings like the g X 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:54.519 five point fifty, and obviously I still am partial to 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:58.440 my Nissan Armada, so we'll see. We'll talk about that 0:02:58.480 --> 0:02:58.960 a little bit. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:03.760 And upcoming and Pebble Beach is coming up next week. 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:07.560 This is Monterey Car Week. On Monday, I will have 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:09.800 a piece going live online and it will also be 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.480 in the September issue of the magazine. And the piece 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.760 is really about the transition that is happening at the 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.880 actual Pebble Beach concor which happens on the Sunday at 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.560 the end of Car Week, where we have Sondra Button, 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.840 who has been the chairman of Pebble Beach for forty years. 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:29.600 She's actually transitioning out and she will be replaced in 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:34.880 October by Vince Finaldi, who is a very successful lawyer 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:40.760 and owns a restoration shop in Monterey former Marine and 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:45.160 they are both wonderful people. They are both very different people, 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.480 and I spent time with each of them in Carmel 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:52.600 for this piece, and I think it was really fun, 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:54.680 and I think this piece really gets at this sort 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.760 of changing of the guard that is happening and maybe 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.880 even a generational change too. At Pebble Beach's. 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:02.600 Let's kind of kick it off with that, Hannah, because 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:06.080 I think it's really interesting that Vince is. Well, it's 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.200 annoying that he's in his early fifties and so successful 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:13.160 because what he was in the marine, so he served 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:18.560 the country. He's a learned lawyer, so he's a super smart. 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:19.920 Guy. 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:23.200 He is the type of lawyer that does like cases 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:27.279 to protect from child abuse, to really go after child 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:31.080 abusers and especially educational systems that were sort of a 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:32.719 safe haven for child abusers. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:36.120 Okay, so again in the service of our nation and 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.120 our great society, Thank you so much for that. 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.119 Plus, he owns a Lamborghini store. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:46.839 He owns a restoration shop where they they primarily work 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:51.880 on Lamborghinis and Ferraris. He's got some serious porschas. I 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.280 actually took a drive with him in his nine eleven 0:04:54.320 --> 0:05:01.440 career MFI. And this he comes to it very authentically 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:06.359 because his father was a mechanic straight from Italy with 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.400 the last name Finale. You might have imagined his father 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:14.960 was truly a mechanic who had a restoration shop and garage, 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.320 and so he grew up around it, and he also 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:21.599 did a lot of work on like rebuilding diesel and 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:26.200 sort of heavy machinery as well. So yeah, he's very accomplished. 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.760 Yeah, that is pretty amazing, and it'll be interesting to 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:33.920 see what he does with Pebble Beach, right, because until 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:38.440 a few years ago, or maybe the last decade, I've 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:42.320 always thought of the concore as dealing with i mean 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:47.560 pre war cars or like at the youngest, like sixties. 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.960 Ferraris right, and just the kind. 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.960 Of stuff that our parents would have been into, if 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:58.680 our parents were par people, or that you know, like 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:03.279 the blue chips of the And this guy seems like 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:04.920 he's going to bring a little bit more of a 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:06.760 kind of a radwood flayer to the thing. 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.919 That is very very perceptive with you. And that is 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:14.239 really the crux of the story, because yes, Pebble Beach 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:20.600 has made its name on being a showcase of the 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:25.280 world's most expensive and most significant cars, and typically those 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:30.040 have been pre war and you know, cars from the fifties, sixties, 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:34.239 some seventies, but really the core is the older cars. 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:39.120 Sondra of course is older. She I'm not going to 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:43.039 say her age, but she's you know, she's been doing 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:46.560 it for a long time, and her advantage really has 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:50.719 been that she knows and is friends with all of 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:56.120 these people who own these very significant older cars there. 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.880 They tend to be, as you know, wealthy people can 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:04.960 be rather discreet, and Sondra has really become very powerful 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.640 in the way that she is friends with them. She 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.440 convinces them to bring their cars and show their cars, 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:16.880 and all of that is is as it has been. Vince, yes, 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.880 he is a newer generation. He's a younger generation. When 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.680 I spoke with him, he definitely said, we need to 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.040 shake it up a bit. This is it's a getting 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.160 a little bit fuddy duddy. It's a little bit long 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.559 in the tooth. We need to bring some real life 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:35.600 to it, including, you know, doing things like improving social media, 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:41.400 improving the parking, improving the merchandising at the show. So 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:45.680 there is sort of a tension between how much do 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:51.000 we celebrate and maintain the beautiful prestige that made this 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:55.160 show what it is versus it does need to evolve 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.880 and stay up with the times or it will become irrelevant. 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:02.480 So there is you're exactly right, there is a push pull, Matt. 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.360 That will be very interesting to see how it plays out. 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.840 So what can you tell us about You're getting ready 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:13.280 to go to Monterey, right, You're gonna get in your 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:16.840 Lamborghini and fly up there, but at a reasonable speed 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:17.360 this time. 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.280 Yeah, what can you I mean? 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.480 You also happen to know a lot of stuff that 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:27.360 is still under embargo, so you can tell our listeners 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.960 everything that you're going to cover. But what kind of 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.160 preview can you share with us about the highlights you're 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:34.160 most excited about. 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:38.040 Well, I can tell you that, you know, we have 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:43.280 discussed with Singer. Singer will be bringing some very interesting, 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:47.800 unprecedented work that they've done. Singer, of course, is the 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:53.160 Porstcho reimagined company out here in California. In fact, next 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.360 week we've got an interview with Maz and Rob who 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:01.560 run Singer, about these new prop I expect it they 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.840 will make quite a big splash and will be polarizing 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:10.439 even and then we'll also see new debuts from Lamborghini, 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:17.960 from Bugatti, from Bentley, and you know, basically every major 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:21.760 automaker will have something to show on the new side, 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.200 and many of those things will be at the Quail, 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.000 this big show at the Peninsula hotel called the Quail. 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:33.880 But Honestly, I really love going to the auctions. And 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.880 something that maybe is overlooked is that during Car Week 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:42.560 there are five major auction houses doing sales throughout the 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:46.640 week of these amazing cars, and you can go to 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.760 the auction for free. This is one of the great 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:51.920 things about Car Week. And yes, there are some very 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:55.360 expensive things happening during Car Week, but there are also 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.360 plenty of free or inexpensive things to do, and just 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.240 going to the auction preview and looking at all of 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.320 these amazing cars close up is one of my favorite 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.920 things to do. So that's what I'm actually looking forward to. 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.600 By the way, you cover this event and have been 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:11.760 for many many years as a journalist. 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:13.199 But are there. 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:21.240 Are there any organized, you know, gatherings that a normal 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.720 enthusiast can take part in, Like would you be able 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:24.760 to bring one of your. 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.080 Cars there to show? 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:28.679 Uh? Is there like a you know, a sort of 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:32.560 an elevated cars and coffee. Does Magnus ever rock up 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:36.959 in one of his creations there? You know that's not 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:41.079 necessarily like a gto, but is still a cool car. 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.240 He has in the past and there, And the short 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.480 answer to your thing is yes. For instance, the Porsche 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:51.640 Works Reunion, which happens every every year. It's on the Friday. 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.040 It actually happens during the Quail. This is a big 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:58.160 Porsche show where there are hundreds of Porsche cars of 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:02.400 all types, all variety. That. Yes, if you you can 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.800 enter your car in to this show. It happens on 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:11.000 a golf course in Monterey. It's awesome. So that's just 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.040 like the first thing that comes to mind. Yes, there 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:16.000 are many ways you can bring your own cars. There 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.520 are lots of different rallies. There's a thing called Cavelino. 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:27.160 Uh oh wait, edit that out, don't say cavalino. Don Patrol, Yeah, 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.080 I do love a Don Patrol. Now. Down Patrol is 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:35.240 when you wake up very early, at like four point 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.920 thirty the day of the Pebble Beach Concord, anyone can 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.480 go down and watch the cars that are going to 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.600 be displayed later, go down to the Pebble Beach Golf 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.880 Club in the early morning fog and watch as they 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.760 bring each car onto the golf course. It's kind of 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.560 painful because it's so early and it's always cold, but 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:53.520 it is worth it. 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:55.360 I love it that. 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.280 Yeah, well, we used to have that at my at 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:02.000 camp Kawani and well Maine. You could be in the 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.520 Polar Bear Club, which meant you had to wake up 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:08.880 and go for a swim in the lake at like 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.880 six o'clock in the morning and it was ice cold, 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:13.559 and if you did it like ten times, then you 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.760 got a white stripe on your canoe paddle, which actually cool. 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:23.000 Did you have any sort of like bonfire, Oh yeah 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.120 for you when you got out and like no. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.160 No, not not when you got out, not when you 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:28.800 When you got out, you had to go to the 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:30.800 mess hall and get your food and get started on 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.480 whatever you were doing for the day like rifle range 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.760 or water skiing or woodworking or whatever it was. But 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:42.520 we had huge bonfires at that camp every week. I 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:46.360 had some really interesting boys going to camp with me, 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:53.000 including Julio and Enrique Iglesias. 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.400 They went to your they went to my camp. 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:56.920 My camp. 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:01.240 My camp in Maine was was kids from the Columbus, 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:05.040 Ohio area, some kids from New Jersey, and then some 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:10.679 kids from Madrid, including at the time Prince Philip of. 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:13.360 Family who is now the King. 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.080 This is called Camp Kiwani. 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.720 Camp Kiwani great. This is the main reason I'm excited 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:22.440 to have had a boy. Now I just had my 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.760 third kid for listeners who don't know, and my first boy. 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:29.439 The first two I had were girls, and I'm I 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:31.440 love that more than anything. But I've always been so 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.080 bummed that they can't go to my camp. 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:34.880 And now I finally. 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:38.520 Have a little legacy here that I can send to 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:47.760 Camp Kiwane, which is pretty cool. Let's get to the 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.920 to the to the family car comparison I've been doing, 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:57.319 because I had a GMC Acadia last week for the week. 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.079 It was a press car. This was a press car. 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:03.200 Press car, Yeah, And I was kind of prepared to 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.880 be disappointed because I always want the. 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:08.080 Extreme of things. 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.400 So if I'm gonna have a GMC SUV and I 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.080 love the brand, as listeners know, and I love the 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:19.880 Yukon especially, I want the biggest one, right, I mean, 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.760 not necessarily the Yukon XL, but the big body on 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:27.760 frame truck with the big the biggest V eight motor 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:30.040 they make. They make two right now, the five to 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:31.920 three and the six point two liter V eight, and 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:35.000 I would always when I'm configuring mine on the internet, 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.120 I always go for the six to two. By the way, 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.080 I can't wait for that to be a six point 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.240 seven liter V eight, which is gonna happen, I think 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:45.000 for the twenty twenty eight model year. But the Acadia 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.760 only has a little four cylinder motor. It's like a 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:52.920 turbocharge two point four leader four cylinder, and it's a 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:57.160 unibody vehicle. And I thought, you know, this is gonna 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.960 be a bummer and I probably won't yeah drive it 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:00.640 very much. 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:04.600 But it is so room first of all, so roomy 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:05.320 on the interior. 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.040 It has more room in it than my Mercedes GLS, 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:14.640 which is the biggest suv Mercedes makes, And it looks 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:15.760 genuinely cool. 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.440 I mean it looks kind of rugged. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.680 This one was the Dnale version, so it has big wheels, 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.480 and I just think that they got the styling so 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.560 right that it kind of looks like it would be 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:32.360 maybe a Broncho competitor. 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.200 You know, Yeah, what color is the one you had? 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:40.960 I got It was a dark silvery gray, really nice 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.200 paint job and really cool interior. 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:45.920 Because it's the Denali version. 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.200 I don't think I would pick that version for myself 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.680 because I had twenty two inch wheels, which is like, 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.040 I feel like that's already too much for a big SUV. 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.920 So for the midsize offering, it's a little crazy. 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.200 You think they're too big at twenty two. 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:00.520 I think they're too big. 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.040 Like what I want smaller wheels so I can have 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:04.080 bigger sidewall. 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:05.960 So I'd rather have eight. 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.760 Teens and then I could have more sidewall to absorb 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:13.520 the uh the impacts of the Northeast Highway system here. 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.880 But it looked, it looks great, right. 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:17.120 And. 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:22.280 I was. I was working it out. 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.400 Now, I have three car seats right, one of them 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:29.160 is still rear facing, the other one is still ginormous, 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:33.320 and then the baby's car seat is My wife insists 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.920 on not just the car seat, but like a platform 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.160 that has a third leg, so it takes up so 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.960 much space. And I was hooking it up so that 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.560 the two older girls could sit in the third row 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:46.840 and I could put Freddy in the middle, and then 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.320 one of the middle seats they're both captain's chairs in 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:53.080 the middles in the middle could be folded out so 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:54.880 that you can easily climb in and out of the 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.440 of the people, you know. And I just had so 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.320 much fun with this thing. And I didn't go on 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.680 any long trips. I wasn't you know, going up to 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.000 the Catskills or out to Fire Island. I was just 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:11.440 tooling around Westchester. And for that I have to say 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:16.760 the little fore banger, the turbocharge fore banger. 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:16.960 Was more than enough. 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:21.040 And the pricing on this is like under sixty. 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:25.400 Yes, yes, you can get it for well under well 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:30.000 under sixty. Obviously if you get the Denali version and 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:33.840 like check all the boxes, it's gonna climb. But I 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.560 don't think, frankly, that you need that. And I started 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.080 looking at this thing and saying, like to myself, why 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:45.040 do I always want the like ninety five thousand dollars 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:50.720 Yukon or the herd thousand dollars Mercedes or BMW equivalents 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:53.879 when I could get a mid size and it still 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:57.560 has I guess because of its unibody construction, so much 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:01.040 space inside and fair. I didn't take it on a 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.159 longer trip, so I probably would have thought it was 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:06.840 underpowered on the highway. But honestly, this engine, I've had 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:08.960 it in the past in the Colorado and some other 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:13.080 GM vehicles. It really has a lot of pep like. 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.639 It really doesn't feel too weak. 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.840 So here's my question to you for something like a 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:24.199 big family suv, which ultimately what you need is the 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:30.320 space and the practicality. Why would you ever get something 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:34.080 that is a luxury brand for that type of thing. 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:35.240 Other than ego. 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.479 It could be styling, right, Although none of them are 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.679 very attractive. I don't think that the X seven or 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.760 the Q nine that you just went and saw from Audi, 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:48.800 or the gls I don't find them very good looking. 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.040 But I also don't on. 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:54.119 The Escalade very good looking either. Frankly, if you're if 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:57.199 you're going based on looks alone, I much prefer a 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.040 suburban or Yukon honestly. 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.199 Yeah, well that that's also what I'm getting at like 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:05.880 these honestly, in a way, these are kind of work horses, yes, 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.080 and you don't buy a workhorse for it to be 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:12.600 pretty anyway. So if you're truly just if you like, 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:16.399 I'm kind of realizing and your reality is so different 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.040 from mine. When you talk about three children's seats, it's 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:20.840 hilarious to me to imagine. 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.680 That it will smell like diapers, it's covered in fuke, 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:26.720 and there are in every crevice there's. 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:31.320 It would be very hard to make a real argument 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.200 for why you would spend thirty grand more on something 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.199 that has a luxury badge at the end of the day, I. 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:39.399 Mean, the truth is when we when we when we 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:43.760 just bought our latest suv, my wife was still mourning 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:47.639 the loss of her g Wagon, which is too small 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:51.560 for a growing family, and she refused to go to 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.720 because the truth is, the Tahoe, the Yukon, the Escalade, 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:59.760 they are ginormous. I mean, they are absolutely massive, especially 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:04.640 for she's from Spain, so for a European woman to contemplate. 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.000 And by the way, by the way, she also loved 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:10.040 my Raptor, so it's not like she's averse to large 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:14.640 American vehicles, but for her daily she just didn't want, 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:18.280 you know, one of the big American truck based SUVs, 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:24.800 and she loved her previous experience with Mercedes and the 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:29.520 Mercedes the Mercedes had more interior space, especially in the 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:31.919 second row, which at the time I thought was the 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:36.720 most important of its competitors. But now I'm realizing that 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:42.119 a lot of these other, you know, offerings, like the Acadia, 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:46.760 actually even though they're not bigger in the exterior dimensions, 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:52.600 they're packaged better than at least at least the GLS. 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:54.960 I still would rather have at the end of the 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:56.600 day a Yukon or a suburban. 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:00.560 Yeah, frankly, but probably knocking to get that. 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:04.159 For some reason, she liked the Armada, so maybe that 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:07.440 would be an option. But this a Katia really really 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:08.880 impressed her as well, So. 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:10.919 I don't know. 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:15.359 I've switched it out on Friday for a Dodge Durango, which, 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:18.240 you know, the build quality just isn't there for me 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:20.520 with the Drago, but at least they have the kahonas 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:23.040 to put a six point four liter V eight in it, 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:27.000 and I don't understand why GM and Ford can't do 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:29.439 the same thing with these. With these vehicles, I imagine 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:32.480 if Ford made a Bronco that was a three row, 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:34.600 like a bigger Bronco that was a three row and 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:36.399 had a beat, it would be. 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:41.600 The Bronco. Daddy, do you ever toe anything in the 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.040 would you ever toe any like? Would you tow a 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:48.119 motorcycle behind any of these or like? Care about towing 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:49.800 capacity at all? 0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:53.159 I don't really because if I'm towing anything, it is 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:56.160 a motorcycle, and I can tell a motorcycle. 0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:58.879 I've towed a motorcycle with my nine to eleven, so 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:03.240 it's not. It's not an impossibility with with with cars. 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:06.200 It's a little bit silly obviously, but you can tew 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:12.639 a motorcycle or two with any capable vehicle. And I 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:15.480 don't think I'm going to be able to afford the 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:18.400 boat life if I continue producing children. 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:25.080 Here, so like, yeah, I know nothing about I mean, I've. 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:26.760 Been looking at sailboats lately because I want to get 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:29.480 the kids into it. But I if I get a 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:32.560 Hobi cat, it's also going to be difficult to tow. 0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:37.840 They're not heavy, So yeah, I don't Towing is never 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:40.359 a concern for me. And the funny thing is, like 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:43.199 I look at these unibody vehicles and you know that 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:46.480 I want. I prefer a truck, a body on frame truck, 0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:48.639 because I think it's more rugged. And so I was 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.640 looking at the Lexus g X five point fifty and. 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:55.160 It is. It is a. 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:57.760 Body on frame truck. It's based on the Tundra or 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:00.720 like the Global land Cruiser, not the you know, the 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.600 little US excuse for land cruiser. 0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.520 Like the designing. I like how it looks, Yeah, it 0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:07.120 looks great. 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:08.600 It looks that cool. 0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:12.760 That thing is truly underpowered and very small, you know. 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:14.640 Oh, really, I haven't been inside one. 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:18.080