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Speaker 3: deal with other issues. I've got, by the way, a
Speaker 3: five week old baby sitting here till so you might
Speaker 3: hear him cooing and grabbing for his child. Okay, but
Speaker 3: I do love these viewer emails. Plus I want to
Speaker 3: talk about my struggle to find the perfect family car.
Speaker 3: I've been driving a lot of SUVs. I haven't caved
Speaker 3: to the mini van never yet, and I probably never will.
Speaker 3: But I'm finding there's a lot of interesting stuff going on.
Speaker 3: I've driven the new GMC Acadia. I'm driving the old
Speaker 3: Dodge Durango, but with the three ninety two. I have
Speaker 3: been looking around the Lexus offerings like the g X
Speaker 3: five point fifty, and obviously I still am partial to
Speaker 3: my Nissan Armada, so we'll see. We'll talk about that
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 1: And upcoming and Pebble Beach is coming up next week.
Speaker 1: This is Monterey Car Week. On Monday, I will have
Speaker 1: a piece going live online and it will also be
Speaker 1: in the September issue of the magazine. And the piece
Speaker 1: is really about the transition that is happening at the
Speaker 1: actual Pebble Beach concor which happens on the Sunday at
Speaker 1: the end of Car Week, where we have Sondra Button,
Speaker 1: who has been the chairman of Pebble Beach for forty years.
Speaker 1: She's actually transitioning out and she will be replaced in
Speaker 1: October by Vince Finaldi, who is a very successful lawyer
Speaker 1: and owns a restoration shop in Monterey former Marine and
Speaker 1: they are both wonderful people. They are both very different people,
Speaker 1: and I spent time with each of them in Carmel
Speaker 1: for this piece, and I think it was really fun,
Speaker 1: and I think this piece really gets at this sort
Speaker 1: of changing of the guard that is happening and maybe
Speaker 1: even a generational change too. At Pebble Beach's.
Speaker 3: Let's kind of kick it off with that, Hannah, because
Speaker 3: I think it's really interesting that Vince is. Well, it's
Speaker 3: annoying that he's in his early fifties and so successful
Speaker 3: because what he was in the marine, so he served
Speaker 3: the country. He's a learned lawyer, so he's a super smart.
Speaker 2: Guy.
Speaker 1: He is the type of lawyer that does like cases
Speaker 1: to protect from child abuse, to really go after child
Speaker 1: abusers and especially educational systems that were sort of a
Speaker 1: safe haven for child abusers.
Speaker 3: Okay, so again in the service of our nation and
Speaker 3: our great society, Thank you so much for that.
Speaker 2: Plus, he owns a Lamborghini store.
Speaker 1: He owns a restoration shop where they they primarily work
Speaker 1: on Lamborghinis and Ferraris. He's got some serious porschas. I
Speaker 1: actually took a drive with him in his nine eleven
Speaker 1: career MFI. And this he comes to it very authentically
Speaker 1: because his father was a mechanic straight from Italy with
Speaker 1: the last name Finale. You might have imagined his father
Speaker 1: was truly a mechanic who had a restoration shop and garage,
Speaker 1: and so he grew up around it, and he also
Speaker 1: did a lot of work on like rebuilding diesel and
Speaker 1: sort of heavy machinery as well. So yeah, he's very accomplished.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is pretty amazing, and it'll be interesting to
Speaker 3: see what he does with Pebble Beach, right, because until
Speaker 3: a few years ago, or maybe the last decade, I've
Speaker 3: always thought of the concore as dealing with i mean
Speaker 3: pre war cars or like at the youngest, like sixties.
Speaker 2: Ferraris right, and just the kind.
Speaker 3: Of stuff that our parents would have been into, if
Speaker 3: our parents were par people, or that you know, like
Speaker 3: the blue chips of the And this guy seems like
Speaker 3: he's going to bring a little bit more of a
Speaker 3: kind of a radwood flayer to the thing.
Speaker 1: That is very very perceptive with you. And that is
Speaker 1: really the crux of the story, because yes, Pebble Beach
Speaker 1: has made its name on being a showcase of the
Speaker 1: world's most expensive and most significant cars, and typically those
Speaker 1: have been pre war and you know, cars from the fifties, sixties,
Speaker 1: some seventies, but really the core is the older cars.
Speaker 1: Sondra of course is older. She I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say her age, but she's you know, she's been doing
Speaker 1: it for a long time, and her advantage really has
Speaker 1: been that she knows and is friends with all of
Speaker 1: these people who own these very significant older cars there.
Speaker 1: They tend to be, as you know, wealthy people can
Speaker 1: be rather discreet, and Sondra has really become very powerful
Speaker 1: in the way that she is friends with them. She
Speaker 1: convinces them to bring their cars and show their cars,
Speaker 1: and all of that is is as it has been. Vince, yes,
Speaker 1: he is a newer generation. He's a younger generation. When
Speaker 1: I spoke with him, he definitely said, we need to
Speaker 1: shake it up a bit. This is it's a getting
Speaker 1: a little bit fuddy duddy. It's a little bit long
Speaker 1: in the tooth. We need to bring some real life
Speaker 1: to it, including, you know, doing things like improving social media,
Speaker 1: improving the parking, improving the merchandising at the show. So
Speaker 1: there is sort of a tension between how much do
Speaker 1: we celebrate and maintain the beautiful prestige that made this
Speaker 1: show what it is versus it does need to evolve
Speaker 1: and stay up with the times or it will become irrelevant.
Speaker 1: So there is you're exactly right, there is a push pull, Matt.
Speaker 1: That will be very interesting to see how it plays out.
Speaker 3: So what can you tell us about You're getting ready
Speaker 3: to go to Monterey, right, You're gonna get in your
Speaker 3: Lamborghini and fly up there, but at a reasonable speed
Speaker 3: this time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what can you I mean?
Speaker 3: You also happen to know a lot of stuff that
Speaker 3: is still under embargo, so you can tell our listeners
Speaker 3: everything that you're going to cover. But what kind of
Speaker 3: preview can you share with us about the highlights you're
Speaker 3: most excited about.
Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you that, you know, we have
Speaker 1: discussed with Singer. Singer will be bringing some very interesting,
Speaker 1: unprecedented work that they've done. Singer, of course, is the
Speaker 1: Porstcho reimagined company out here in California. In fact, next
Speaker 1: week we've got an interview with Maz and Rob who
Speaker 1: run Singer, about these new prop I expect it they
Speaker 1: will make quite a big splash and will be polarizing
Speaker 1: even and then we'll also see new debuts from Lamborghini,
Speaker 1: from Bugatti, from Bentley, and you know, basically every major
Speaker 1: automaker will have something to show on the new side,
Speaker 1: and many of those things will be at the Quail,
Speaker 1: this big show at the Peninsula hotel called the Quail.
Speaker 1: But Honestly, I really love going to the auctions. And
Speaker 1: something that maybe is overlooked is that during Car Week
Speaker 1: there are five major auction houses doing sales throughout the
Speaker 1: week of these amazing cars, and you can go to
Speaker 1: the auction for free. This is one of the great
Speaker 1: things about Car Week. And yes, there are some very
Speaker 1: expensive things happening during Car Week, but there are also
Speaker 1: plenty of free or inexpensive things to do, and just
Speaker 1: going to the auction preview and looking at all of
Speaker 1: these amazing cars close up is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: things to do. So that's what I'm actually looking forward to.
Speaker 3: By the way, you cover this event and have been
Speaker 3: for many many years as a journalist.
Speaker 2: But are there.
Speaker 3: Are there any organized, you know, gatherings that a normal
Speaker 3: enthusiast can take part in, Like would you be able
Speaker 3: to bring one of your.
Speaker 2: Cars there to show?
Speaker 3: Uh? Is there like a you know, a sort of
Speaker 3: an elevated cars and coffee. Does Magnus ever rock up
Speaker 3: in one of his creations there? You know that's not
Speaker 3: necessarily like a gto, but is still a cool car.
Speaker 1: He has in the past and there, And the short
Speaker 1: answer to your thing is yes. For instance, the Porsche
Speaker 1: Works Reunion, which happens every every year. It's on the Friday.
Speaker 1: It actually happens during the Quail. This is a big
Speaker 1: Porsche show where there are hundreds of Porsche cars of
Speaker 1: all types, all variety. That. Yes, if you you can
Speaker 1: enter your car in to this show. It happens on
Speaker 1: a golf course in Monterey. It's awesome. So that's just
Speaker 1: like the first thing that comes to mind. Yes, there
Speaker 1: are many ways you can bring your own cars. There
Speaker 1: are lots of different rallies. There's a thing called Cavelino.
Speaker 1: Uh oh wait, edit that out, don't say cavalino. Don Patrol, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do love a Don Patrol. Now. Down Patrol is
Speaker 1: when you wake up very early, at like four point
Speaker 1: thirty the day of the Pebble Beach Concord, anyone can
Speaker 1: go down and watch the cars that are going to
Speaker 1: be displayed later, go down to the Pebble Beach Golf
Speaker 1: Club in the early morning fog and watch as they
Speaker 1: bring each car onto the golf course. It's kind of
Speaker 1: painful because it's so early and it's always cold, but
Speaker 1: it is worth it.
Speaker 2: I love it that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we used to have that at my at
Speaker 3: camp Kawani and well Maine. You could be in the
Speaker 3: Polar Bear Club, which meant you had to wake up
Speaker 3: and go for a swim in the lake at like
Speaker 3: six o'clock in the morning and it was ice cold,
Speaker 3: and if you did it like ten times, then you
Speaker 3: got a white stripe on your canoe paddle, which actually cool.
Speaker 1: Did you have any sort of like bonfire, Oh yeah
Speaker 1: for you when you got out and like no.
Speaker 3: No, not not when you got out, not when you
Speaker 3: When you got out, you had to go to the
Speaker 3: mess hall and get your food and get started on
Speaker 3: whatever you were doing for the day like rifle range
Speaker 3: or water skiing or woodworking or whatever it was. But
Speaker 3: we had huge bonfires at that camp every week. I
Speaker 3: had some really interesting boys going to camp with me,
Speaker 3: including Julio and Enrique Iglesias.
Speaker 1: They went to your they went to my camp.
Speaker 2: My camp.
Speaker 3: My camp in Maine was was kids from the Columbus,
Speaker 3: Ohio area, some kids from New Jersey, and then some
Speaker 3: kids from Madrid, including at the time Prince Philip of.
Speaker 2: Family who is now the King.
Speaker 1: This is called Camp Kiwani.
Speaker 3: Camp Kiwani great. This is the main reason I'm excited
Speaker 3: to have had a boy. Now I just had my
Speaker 3: third kid for listeners who don't know, and my first boy.
Speaker 3: The first two I had were girls, and I'm I
Speaker 3: love that more than anything. But I've always been so
Speaker 3: bummed that they can't go to my camp.
Speaker 2: And now I finally.
Speaker 3: Have a little legacy here that I can send to
Speaker 3: Camp Kiwane, which is pretty cool. Let's get to the
Speaker 3: to the to the family car comparison I've been doing,
Speaker 3: because I had a GMC Acadia last week for the week.
Speaker 1: It was a press car. This was a press car.
Speaker 3: Press car, Yeah, And I was kind of prepared to
Speaker 3: be disappointed because I always want the.
Speaker 2: Extreme of things.
Speaker 3: So if I'm gonna have a GMC SUV and I
Speaker 3: love the brand, as listeners know, and I love the
Speaker 3: Yukon especially, I want the biggest one, right, I mean,
Speaker 3: not necessarily the Yukon XL, but the big body on
Speaker 3: frame truck with the big the biggest V eight motor
Speaker 3: they make. They make two right now, the five to
Speaker 3: three and the six point two liter V eight, and
Speaker 3: I would always when I'm configuring mine on the internet,
Speaker 3: I always go for the six to two. By the way,
Speaker 3: I can't wait for that to be a six point
Speaker 3: seven liter V eight, which is gonna happen, I think
Speaker 3: for the twenty twenty eight model year. But the Acadia
Speaker 3: only has a little four cylinder motor. It's like a
Speaker 3: turbocharge two point four leader four cylinder, and it's a
Speaker 3: unibody vehicle. And I thought, you know, this is gonna
Speaker 3: be a bummer and I probably won't yeah drive it
Speaker 3: very much.
Speaker 2: But it is so room first of all, so roomy
Speaker 2: on the interior.
Speaker 3: It has more room in it than my Mercedes GLS,
Speaker 3: which is the biggest suv Mercedes makes, And it looks
Speaker 3: genuinely cool.
Speaker 2: I mean it looks kind of rugged.
Speaker 3: This one was the Dnale version, so it has big wheels,
Speaker 3: and I just think that they got the styling so
Speaker 3: right that it kind of looks like it would be
Speaker 3: maybe a Broncho competitor.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, what color is the one you had?
Speaker 3: I got It was a dark silvery gray, really nice
Speaker 3: paint job and really cool interior.
Speaker 2: Because it's the Denali version.
Speaker 3: I don't think I would pick that version for myself
Speaker 3: because I had twenty two inch wheels, which is like,
Speaker 3: I feel like that's already too much for a big SUV.
Speaker 3: So for the midsize offering, it's a little crazy.
Speaker 1: You think they're too big at twenty two.
Speaker 2: I think they're too big.
Speaker 3: Like what I want smaller wheels so I can have
Speaker 3: bigger sidewall.
Speaker 2: So I'd rather have eight.
Speaker 3: Teens and then I could have more sidewall to absorb
Speaker 3: the uh the impacts of the Northeast Highway system here.
Speaker 2: But it looked, it looks great, right.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 2: I was. I was working it out.
Speaker 3: Now, I have three car seats right, one of them
Speaker 3: is still rear facing, the other one is still ginormous,
Speaker 3: and then the baby's car seat is My wife insists
Speaker 3: on not just the car seat, but like a platform
Speaker 3: that has a third leg, so it takes up so
Speaker 3: much space. And I was hooking it up so that
Speaker 3: the two older girls could sit in the third row
Speaker 3: and I could put Freddy in the middle, and then
Speaker 3: one of the middle seats they're both captain's chairs in
Speaker 3: the middles in the middle could be folded out so
Speaker 3: that you can easily climb in and out of the
Speaker 3: of the people, you know. And I just had so
Speaker 3: much fun with this thing. And I didn't go on
Speaker 3: any long trips. I wasn't you know, going up to
Speaker 3: the Catskills or out to Fire Island. I was just
Speaker 3: tooling around Westchester. And for that I have to say
Speaker 3: the little fore banger, the turbocharge fore banger.
Speaker 2: Was more than enough.
Speaker 1: And the pricing on this is like under sixty.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you can get it for well under well
Speaker 3: under sixty. Obviously if you get the Denali version and
Speaker 3: like check all the boxes, it's gonna climb. But I
Speaker 3: don't think, frankly, that you need that. And I started
Speaker 3: looking at this thing and saying, like to myself, why
Speaker 3: do I always want the like ninety five thousand dollars
Speaker 3: Yukon or the herd thousand dollars Mercedes or BMW equivalents
Speaker 3: when I could get a mid size and it still
Speaker 3: has I guess because of its unibody construction, so much
Speaker 3: space inside and fair. I didn't take it on a
Speaker 3: longer trip, so I probably would have thought it was
Speaker 3: underpowered on the highway. But honestly, this engine, I've had
Speaker 3: it in the past in the Colorado and some other
Speaker 3: GM vehicles. It really has a lot of pep like.
Speaker 3: It really doesn't feel too weak.
Speaker 1: So here's my question to you for something like a
Speaker 1: big family suv, which ultimately what you need is the
Speaker 1: space and the practicality. Why would you ever get something
Speaker 1: that is a luxury brand for that type of thing.
Speaker 1: Other than ego.
Speaker 3: It could be styling, right, Although none of them are
Speaker 3: very attractive. I don't think that the X seven or
Speaker 3: the Q nine that you just went and saw from Audi,
Speaker 3: or the gls I don't find them very good looking.
Speaker 2: But I also don't on.
Speaker 3: The Escalade very good looking either. Frankly, if you're if
Speaker 3: you're going based on looks alone, I much prefer a
Speaker 3: suburban or Yukon honestly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that that's also what I'm getting at like
Speaker 1: these honestly, in a way, these are kind of work horses, yes,
Speaker 1: and you don't buy a workhorse for it to be
Speaker 1: pretty anyway. So if you're truly just if you like,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of realizing and your reality is so different
Speaker 1: from mine. When you talk about three children's seats, it's
Speaker 1: hilarious to me to imagine.
Speaker 3: That it will smell like diapers, it's covered in fuke,
Speaker 3: and there are in every crevice there's.
Speaker 1: It would be very hard to make a real argument
Speaker 1: for why you would spend thirty grand more on something
Speaker 1: that has a luxury badge at the end of the day, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, the truth is when we when we when we
Speaker 3: just bought our latest suv, my wife was still mourning
Speaker 3: the loss of her g Wagon, which is too small
Speaker 3: for a growing family, and she refused to go to
Speaker 3: because the truth is, the Tahoe, the Yukon, the Escalade,
Speaker 3: they are ginormous. I mean, they are absolutely massive, especially
Speaker 3: for she's from Spain, so for a European woman to contemplate.
Speaker 3: And by the way, by the way, she also loved
Speaker 3: my Raptor, so it's not like she's averse to large
Speaker 3: American vehicles, but for her daily she just didn't want,
Speaker 3: you know, one of the big American truck based SUVs,
Speaker 3: and she loved her previous experience with Mercedes and the
Speaker 3: Mercedes the Mercedes had more interior space, especially in the
Speaker 3: second row, which at the time I thought was the
Speaker 3: most important of its competitors. But now I'm realizing that
Speaker 3: a lot of these other, you know, offerings, like the Acadia,
Speaker 3: actually even though they're not bigger in the exterior dimensions,
Speaker 3: they're packaged better than at least at least the GLS.
Speaker 3: I still would rather have at the end of the
Speaker 3: day a Yukon or a suburban.
Speaker 2: Yeah, frankly, but probably knocking to get that.
Speaker 3: For some reason, she liked the Armada, so maybe that
Speaker 3: would be an option. But this a Katia really really
Speaker 3: impressed her as well, So.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I've switched it out on Friday for a Dodge Durango, which,
Speaker 3: you know, the build quality just isn't there for me
Speaker 3: with the Drago, but at least they have the kahonas
Speaker 3: to put a six point four liter V eight in it,
Speaker 3: and I don't understand why GM and Ford can't do
Speaker 3: the same thing with these. With these vehicles, I imagine
Speaker 3: if Ford made a Bronco that was a three row,
Speaker 3: like a bigger Bronco that was a three row and
Speaker 3: had a beat, it would be.
Speaker 1: The Bronco. Daddy, do you ever toe anything in the
Speaker 1: would you ever toe any like? Would you tow a
Speaker 1: motorcycle behind any of these or like? Care about towing
Speaker 1: capacity at all?
Speaker 3: I don't really because if I'm towing anything, it is
Speaker 3: a motorcycle, and I can tell a motorcycle.
Speaker 2: I've towed a motorcycle with my nine to eleven, so
Speaker 2: it's not. It's not an impossibility with with with cars.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit silly obviously, but you can tew
Speaker 3: a motorcycle or two with any capable vehicle. And I
Speaker 3: don't think I'm going to be able to afford the
Speaker 3: boat life if I continue producing children.
Speaker 2: Here, so like, yeah, I know nothing about I mean, I've.
Speaker 3: Been looking at sailboats lately because I want to get
Speaker 3: the kids into it. But I if I get a
Speaker 3: Hobi cat, it's also going to be difficult to tow.
Speaker 3: They're not heavy, So yeah, I don't Towing is never
Speaker 3: a concern for me. And the funny thing is, like
Speaker 3: I look at these unibody vehicles and you know that
Speaker 3: I want. I prefer a truck, a body on frame truck,
Speaker 3: because I think it's more rugged. And so I was
Speaker 3: looking at the Lexus g X five point fifty and.
Speaker 2: It is. It is a.
Speaker 3: Body on frame truck. It's based on the Tundra or
Speaker 3: like the Global land Cruiser, not the you know, the
Speaker 3: little US excuse for land cruiser.
Speaker 2: Like the designing. I like how it looks, Yeah, it
Speaker 2: looks great.
Speaker 1: It looks that cool.
Speaker 2: That thing is truly underpowered and very small, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh, really, I haven't been inside one.
Speaker 3: It's small as it's I mean, even the Lexus is
Speaker 3: probably too small for me, so I have to kind
Speaker 3: of rule that out.
Speaker 2: But otherwise it seems like a pretty great It looks
Speaker 2: so paper, it looks fantastic.
Speaker 3: G X has a bigger, more powerful motor than the
Speaker 3: land Cruiser, has the V six instead of the four.
Speaker 1: But it's also the one shown on the just on
Speaker 1: the website is eighty five to three.
Speaker 2: And that's like if you have a long wait time
Speaker 2: to get one.
Speaker 3: If you if you find a dealer who will sell
Speaker 3: you one, it's going to be months if not. At
Speaker 3: one point it was over a year waiting list. Wow,
Speaker 3: they hold their value. Look at them, look at them used,
Speaker 3: and you'll see you can buy one, uh you know,
Speaker 3: put ten thousand miles on it, and a year later
Speaker 3: sell it for the same same money.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow.
Speaker 1: And here here's a photo of one towing a boat,
Speaker 1: which we've already established you don't need to do.
Speaker 3: I don't need to, but I want the capability to
Speaker 3: do a lot of things in my vehicles that I
Speaker 3: don't necessarily do on a regular basis. The typical sort
Speaker 3: of Starbucks Dad when it comes to that. But the
Speaker 3: Lexus is a truly capable vehicle. The only problem with
Speaker 3: that I think in you know, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: buy one, but theoretically I would always be bummed out
Speaker 3: that they didn't put a more exciting motor in it,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean it's going to turbo charged V
Speaker 3: six even the g Wagon, though the base model has
Speaker 3: moved to a six cylinder.
Speaker 2: I think it's an inline six For the Mercedes.
Speaker 3: It's no longer the turbocharge four la er V eight
Speaker 3: that it was until I think twenty twenty one. So
Speaker 3: if I were going to buy one of those again,
Speaker 3: I would definitely buy one used.
Speaker 2: And not new.
Speaker 1: Does all of this talk mean that you are truly
Speaker 1: considering swapping out the GLS?
Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely, and it's it's pretty much decided that we're
Speaker 2: either going to trade it for My wife wants to
Speaker 2: get back into a Volvo XC ninety, as much as
Speaker 2: I tell her that, clearly the Chinese are spying on
Speaker 2: her if she buys one of those.
Speaker 1: You know, someone on our pursuit's team had a terrible
Speaker 1: time at their dealership with some of the connectivity in
Speaker 1: their Vulbo that they just got, I thinks.
Speaker 3: To Volvo buyers, none of that matters. A Volvo bayer,
Speaker 3: like my wife, she loves the way it looks, she
Speaker 3: loved she had a fantastic ownership experience with hers. We
Speaker 3: leased a XC ninety T eight for two years and
Speaker 3: she simply adored it. And she is a diehard. And
Speaker 3: by the way, people, my mother bought her first Volvo
Speaker 3: in like nineteen eighty four, a baby blue forty gl
Speaker 3: and has since then never bought another car. That's wow,
Speaker 3: two years of I mean, she's bought many other Volvos,
Speaker 3: but she's never bought another brand, is what I mean.
Speaker 3: So she buys Volvo after Volvo. After Volvo went from
Speaker 3: two forty to the seven forty, there was an eight
Speaker 3: fifty in there at some point, and then V seventy,
Speaker 3: XC seventy.
Speaker 2: Now she's on the XC sixty. I think, so like
Speaker 2: the loyalty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, these buyers, you can say what you want about
Speaker 3: Jillie ownership or about software experience. The interior looks kind
Speaker 3: of dated, but they always say, no, that's the Scandinavian
Speaker 3: style and there's nothing you can there's nothing that.
Speaker 2: Can break them from that.
Speaker 3: So I mean that, yeah, I have a feeling that's
Speaker 3: where we'll end up, unless unless I get my Armada
Speaker 3: in there, or.
Speaker 2: Unless Mary Bara and Mark Royce and.
Speaker 3: Jacqueline McQuaid put uh Stalking V eight in the Akkada,
Speaker 3: Like imagine if they put the new Corvette.
Speaker 2: Motor in that.
Speaker 3: The Akkad, honestly is is a very good vehicle the
Speaker 3: way it's set up and with.
Speaker 2: With that engine.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to hear and see what you decide.
Speaker 1: Did you get that it hasn't been two years in
Speaker 1: the gls ish yep? Yeah, all right, So onto the.
Speaker 2: Next, on onto the next.
Speaker 3: With that, I think it's a good jumping off point
Speaker 3: to get into some of our view you were listener emails,
Speaker 3: because one of them from a guy called Franco is
Speaker 3: kind of on this topic to some extent.
Speaker 2: Well, he's very nice about how much he loves our podcast.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: He says, I have two young kids, so the car
Speaker 3: needs to handle daily family duties, but I still want
Speaker 3: something that makes my commute enjoyable. I've always loved performance cars,
Speaker 3: and I'm seriously considered and joining the fast Wagon club.
Speaker 3: And so he lists his contenders, which are pretty much
Speaker 3: the only things you can buy there the Audi RS
Speaker 3: six Avant, which we both love. I mean, yes, I
Speaker 3: think it's the clear king of that space, and then
Speaker 3: the BMW M five Touring, which we both have just
Speaker 3: driven as well, and yes it's a little actually bigger.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure it looks bigger, but yes. Then I
Speaker 3: was trying to think of what other options you have
Speaker 3: in that space, and there really isn't much. I mean,
Speaker 3: Mercedes used to make the E sixty three as a wagon.
Speaker 3: Here the AMG E sixty three, and that had the
Speaker 3: killer V eight that we had in our G wagon
Speaker 3: in that is basically the basis for what the AMGGT
Speaker 3: sixty three has. But they now only have the E
Speaker 3: fifty three, which I think has the in line six.
Speaker 3: And then Porsha had the amazing Panamera wagon or you know,
Speaker 3: into the Panamera the wagon. I think it was the choice,
Speaker 3: but now they're not going to sell that. So the
Speaker 3: only the competitors you can buy new to the Audi
Speaker 3: R six is the BMW M five.
Speaker 2: Those are the only two in the class.
Speaker 1: Really, right, I mean I guess we don't. We can
Speaker 1: talk about a Subaru outback type thing, or we could
Speaker 1: talk about.
Speaker 2: A performance car.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just I'm just saying or I think Volvo
Speaker 1: still makes that cross country like a V sixty cross
Speaker 1: country type of thing. I'm just saying those for the record,
Speaker 1: there are options. But yes, Franco, we hear you like you,
Speaker 1: you love performance cars and you want to join the
Speaker 1: fast wagon club. It seems like really where we're leaning
Speaker 1: is the AUDI. I mean that is sort of like
Speaker 1: the undisputed.
Speaker 3: I would say, I can't think of anything I would
Speaker 3: choose over it if you're buying a new car. Now,
Speaker 3: that said, I don't think he should dismiss looking at
Speaker 3: older Panama wagons, you know, I think twenty one, twenty two,
Speaker 3: twenty three, And the same is true with older AMG
Speaker 3: E sixty three wagons now, people like Dug DeMuro swears.
Speaker 2: By those things, and.
Speaker 3: I know still find low mileage versions and probably save
Speaker 3: yourself a little money in the in the process.
Speaker 1: Totally agree. And I'm looking at his priorities here. He says,
Speaker 1: genuine family cargo space, engaging in fun to drive, strong
Speaker 1: winter capability because he's in Canada, and good ride quality
Speaker 1: and durability. Yeah, I mean, Franco, you already know, you
Speaker 1: already know you don't need us the answer. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's really fun to think about because we always this
Speaker 1: is sort of like along with the stick shift conversation
Speaker 1: that we always have we know, oh what we would
Speaker 1: like to buy. I would love it if there were
Speaker 1: no more minivans ever, and instead you were forced to
Speaker 1: buy a wagon. I don't understand why we can't federalize this,
Speaker 1: you know, come on, it's for the good of everybody.
Speaker 3: I'm a huge proponent of wagon over SUV, you know.
Speaker 3: And actually I love the Audi wagons. I recently went
Speaker 3: down the rabbit hole looking at the V ten S
Speaker 3: six is that they made back in the day. I
Speaker 3: think they phased those out in twenty twenty or twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one, and you couldn't get in the US like
Speaker 3: the best versions, so you would have to import them.
Speaker 3: But they were very temperamental, and I think cost of
Speaker 3: ownership would be a little bit silly. So yeah, I
Speaker 3: think I think the RS six because I've gone through this.
Speaker 3: I've gone through this exercise countless times on my laptop,
Speaker 3: and to me, the RS six ends up the winner
Speaker 3: every time. I mean, it's pricey and they don't depreciate
Speaker 3: a lot yet, so even if you're looking at one
Speaker 3: from like twenty twenty twenty twenty one, there's still gonna
Speaker 3: be like ninety five thousand dollars and probably not cheap
Speaker 3: to maintain either.
Speaker 2: But they're just such amazing vehicles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone I know who has one loves them and
Speaker 1: is very smug about it in the best way. Like
Speaker 1: they got they got the good thing, and they love it.
Speaker 1: And yeah, So.
Speaker 3: I had one for a week as a test car,
Speaker 3: and I got pulled over three times, said, and two
Speaker 3: of those three times the police officer basically just wanted
Speaker 3: to car.
Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember that you're going through a
Speaker 1: gas station.
Speaker 2: You cut out.
Speaker 3: That was the time when the officer wasn't wasn't happy
Speaker 3: I cut through a parking lot to avoid he was.
Speaker 3: He was alleging that I was simply trying to avoid
Speaker 3: a red light.
Speaker 1: No, you changed your mind halfway through, exactly.
Speaker 3: There was a bagel shop in the parking lot, and
Speaker 3: I thought should we get a bagel? And then my
Speaker 3: wife said, and so we cruised and and cruised out.
Speaker 3: Happen to avoid a red light in the process.
Speaker 1: It happens to all of us. Did you see this
Speaker 1: email from Thomas Matt who from the Buffalo area because
Speaker 1: he's also he was also looking for a mid size suv.
Speaker 1: But the caveat here is it needs to fit inside
Speaker 1: his nineteen sixty nine era garage, which half the ones
Speaker 1: that you've named prior to this I don't even think
Speaker 1: would fit in that garage.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's it's tough.
Speaker 1: I mean the Porscha he Thomas lists Portia gts that
Speaker 1: might be okay.
Speaker 3: So we've gotten a few messages from Thomas's or Tom's. Yes,
Speaker 3: is this the one who said he might consider the
Speaker 3: Lamborghini Urus okay?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: And he has an Irish wolfhound, which personally so cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so cool.
Speaker 3: I've actually been looking like my Instagram algorithm has been
Speaker 3: showing me wolfhounds and deer hounds lately.
Speaker 1: Is that because you're like obsessed with pocket knives and
Speaker 1: somehow they go together?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just love those dogs, And when you like a
Speaker 3: few of those videos or spend the time to watch them,
Speaker 3: they just keep sending him to you.
Speaker 2: And I'm That's what I'm there for, so uh, let me.
Speaker 1: Know when you get one of those.
Speaker 3: A smaller suv, I think, Yeah, the Kayenne to me
Speaker 3: We've had this discussion before because we've talked to Thomas
Speaker 3: or about thomas situation in the past. To me, the
Speaker 3: Kayen is just the benchmark in that category, so that price.
Speaker 1: Yes, I will never not say the the Ears is
Speaker 1: the best of all, but yeah, but it's.
Speaker 2: Just is the Earth not just a dulled up Cayenne.
Speaker 1: No, it's way more powerful, it's way more tuned.
Speaker 2: It's kind of the same.
Speaker 1: Way cooler, it's way more interesting.
Speaker 3: I might rather have an Audi Q eight, Like I
Speaker 3: love the Audi Q eight so much, and I have
Speaker 3: since it came out. I've been obsessed with that shape
Speaker 3: since I first saw it there, and there's still kind
Speaker 3: of there's still kind of rare, like for some reason,
Speaker 3: the URIs, at least in this the New York Woods
Speaker 3: has become ubiquitous like it is everywhere, and the Cayenne
Speaker 3: already was like the Volkswagen Bug of SUVs. So I
Speaker 3: feel like, obviously an X five is not bucking the trend,
Speaker 3: but a Q eight is something that you don't see
Speaker 3: as often. And by the way, they all have the Cayenne,
Speaker 3: the Urus, the Q eight, they all have the same
Speaker 3: basic motor that they all have.
Speaker 2: The four liter V eight.
Speaker 3: Right, So yeah, I guess that would be my choice
Speaker 3: of the bunch.
Speaker 2: I think, I guess. I guess the Kyen though, it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, you can't go wrong.
Speaker 3: It's going to probably have fewer failures, lower bills in
Speaker 3: terms of you have less time in the shop. It's
Speaker 3: just that everybody on your block has.
Speaker 2: One, all right.
Speaker 1: And here's here's another thing that I think about a lot.
Speaker 1: Don't you think that every car you have should make
Speaker 1: you smile?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay? And that applies even to work vehicles like an SUV.
Speaker 1: Like you could say, well, it's just an suv. It
Speaker 1: doesn't need to like bring me joy. It's just a thing.
Speaker 1: But I think you could find an SUV that does
Speaker 1: make you smile and bring you joy. You don't have
Speaker 1: to settle for just okay.
Speaker 2: I don't think Kayen is settling for just okay.
Speaker 1: I think it out might.
Speaker 2: Be did no the Audi.
Speaker 3: I absolutely love the inta area of the Audi two
Speaker 3: and the sound. Did you get the SQ eight? Wow,
Speaker 3: that's a that's a really well executed vehicle. I would
Speaker 3: just be afraid of the bills. I wonder if he
Speaker 3: would consider the Lexus g X five point fifty because
Speaker 3: the shape is going to make you smile.
Speaker 1: Yes, there's an idea, and there's yeah, there's an idea.
Speaker 1: Did you see this email from Gavin who's sixteen.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 3: In fact, if you recall, I'm pretty sure I was
Speaker 3: talking with uh with the We Are Curated guy to
Speaker 3: Marion to Marian about Gavin because to Marion also kind of,
Speaker 3: I mean he started out in a similar business like
Speaker 3: detailing and his mental business and doing that kind of
Speaker 3: thing as this kid Gavin. Now, Gavin wants to start
Speaker 3: eventually his own supercar company, right. I support it, and
Speaker 3: he wants to bring it back to analog, which reminds
Speaker 3: me of the email from Bob that we were talking
Speaker 3: about at the top of the show. We're actually starting
Speaker 3: to see that happen.
Speaker 2: More and more. The Hennessy Blackbird.
Speaker 3: Has come out as John Hennessy's laid at supercar and
Speaker 3: rather than being like some thousand plus horse power like
Speaker 3: zero to sixty and two seconds or less top speed
Speaker 3: of two hundred and twenty like he's made it, the
Speaker 3: Hennessy Blackbird has the six point two liters V eight.
Speaker 3: It's obviously the Chevy small block, but it's been reworked
Speaker 3: by like an indie car mechanic to make eight hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty horse power naturally aspirated. And he's put in
Speaker 3: a gated shifter. So he Hennessy analog back. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: Gavin is thinking along the same lines. And if I'm
Speaker 3: not mistaken, this Gavin kid is in the same area.
Speaker 3: I think he's in the southwest. Yes, southern Utah, he says.
Speaker 3: So he's not next door to John Hennessy, but he is.
Speaker 1: He's close knee energetically their next Maybe.
Speaker 2: Those two guys should get we should connect.
Speaker 1: Gavin and and internship.
Speaker 2: Well, that that's.
Speaker 3: The kind of mentorship that a sixteen year old kid
Speaker 3: in the detailing business needs. Like John to Mary, John Hennessy,
Speaker 3: talk to a couple of these guys, and maybe you
Speaker 3: end up with a supercar company.
Speaker 2: Maybe you end up with your dreams fulfilled.
Speaker 1: Right now, back to this Hennessy Blackbird for a second.
Speaker 1: I love I love how Bob signed his name chronically yours.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start using that. That's great. But Matt, is
Speaker 1: this truly your dream car? Number two? As Bob is
Speaker 1: asking or suggesting, is this a dream car for you?
Speaker 3: Or no?
Speaker 2: I don't know enough about it.
Speaker 3: I only know, you know, I've heard people talk about
Speaker 3: and this is a car and driver story that Bob
Speaker 3: sent us, so obviously I read every word.
Speaker 2: But I don't know about the shape.
Speaker 3: And if we're already going as far as I mean,
Speaker 3: it's gorgeous, you know, but it's it's a crazy wrong.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's aggressive.
Speaker 3: So if I'm going to go this aggressive, and if
Speaker 3: we're talking about dream cars, I might end up with
Speaker 3: PEGANI rather than the Blackbird, or I may I may
Speaker 3: end up with some other kind of supercar that I'd
Speaker 3: never even heard of that goes back to analog, because
Speaker 3: I think this is the Hennessy is a two and
Speaker 3: a half million dollar ask right, Pegani's gonna be in
Speaker 3: the same ballpark, like you have so much money that
Speaker 3: you can afford anything. And I think we're going to
Speaker 3: increasingly see supercar makers go back to a really analog experience,
Speaker 3: not just a manual transmission, but a handbreak and maybe
Speaker 3: that handbrake will be on the left where Asked and
Speaker 3: Martin used to put it, and.
Speaker 2: They're gonna get, you know, with the handbrake. I love
Speaker 2: the handbrake.
Speaker 3: And and also no screens Like I went to bed
Speaker 3: last night thinking about our conversation with the guys at Singer. Yeah,
Speaker 3: without revealing too much, they were talking about the importance
Speaker 3: of gauges, right, and I totally agree my.
Speaker 2: Nine to nine two you have also a nine nine
Speaker 2: to two nine to eleven.
Speaker 3: It has analog gauges in the of the five in
Speaker 3: the cluster for our analog and one is digital. And
Speaker 3: I thought that was such a brilliant solution with giving
Speaker 3: you the kind of digital access to a digital information
Speaker 3: screen that you need without making it two in your face.
Speaker 3: And if only you know, the center sort of navigation
Speaker 3: screen would have swiveled away, that would be perfect. And
Speaker 3: Bentley now does you'll talk to the CEO of Bentley
Speaker 3: at at at tebl Mi.
Speaker 1: Sure, Frank Stefan Wallacer, Yes.
Speaker 3: I will formerly Yeah, they have uh I think Adrian
Speaker 3: Hallmark brought this in, but they have a swiveling screen
Speaker 3: that disappears like I think the higher end, not just
Speaker 3: supercar hypercar makers, but just luxury car makers are going
Speaker 3: to bring back buttons and knobs and phase out giant screens,
Speaker 3: and probably at some point, when they figure out a
Speaker 3: way to do it, bring back manual and handbrake offerings.
Speaker 1: I'll look at Ferrari. They're you know, they're sort of
Speaker 1: moving in that direction.
Speaker 3: I mean real manual transmissions, though not just DCTs.
Speaker 2: With although you know, maybe that's the right solution. Maybe
Speaker 2: Ferrari's chosen the right solutions.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Do you remember it? I
Speaker 1: think Bulbo and JAG and maybe SOP, maybe not SAB.
Speaker 1: But do you remember the c belts that were connected
Speaker 1: to the frames of the doors that would move as
Speaker 1: you close the door?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Did you like that? Or do? I think? I had
Speaker 1: an Accura legend at one point that had that. I
Speaker 1: mean that was the height of modernity at the time.
Speaker 2: I think it was fun.
Speaker 3: There were so many bad solutions too. It always got
Speaker 3: too far behind you that it had to be like
Speaker 3: Mercedes had this thing that would pull it forward.
Speaker 2: And hand it to you.
Speaker 1: I remember that, remember too.
Speaker 3: I think moving along the doorframe was probably the best
Speaker 3: of those bad solutions.
Speaker 1: But I guess my point bringing it up is like
Speaker 1: not all of the most advanced technology actually answers a
Speaker 1: question we need answered. Yeah, And I think those seat
Speaker 1: belts are the perfect example, because I remember the time
Speaker 1: I thought they were like so cool and luxury, but
Speaker 1: actually they always got in the way. Half the time,
Speaker 1: they never worked, and I would always just end up
Speaker 1: unclipping it because it just was annoying. And that's a
Speaker 1: perfect example of sometimes technology is answering a question that
Speaker 1: no one needs answered and it's actually not necessary. The
Speaker 1: analog thing is the better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and I think a lot of these things.
Speaker 3: We got an email from a guy called Tony who
Speaker 3: says love listening to Show every Friday.
Speaker 2: He agrees regarding electric manual shifting.
Speaker 3: Ferrari like it seems unnecessary even if it works well,
Speaker 3: and it's similar to trying to make electric cars sound
Speaker 3: like internal combustion engine vehicles, he says, when I do
Speaker 3: finally get an electric car, and I love that he's
Speaker 3: I kept thinking about this ever since I read this email,
Speaker 3: when I do finally get an electric car, like he
Speaker 3: knows it's going to happen, It's inevitable at some point
Speaker 3: that he's going to He says, I wanted to either
Speaker 3: silent or sound like George Jetson's spaceship, and I totally
Speaker 3: I totally understand where he's coming from. Like, I think
Speaker 3: at some point we were talking about this before when
Speaker 3: when the car, when the automobile was first invented, they
Speaker 3: didn't make it smell like horse poop to remind you
Speaker 3: of your previous.
Speaker 2: Ride, you know. I think eventually, like.
Speaker 3: Why Mercedes desperately trying to get a V eight sound
Speaker 3: out of an EV or Ferrari, you know, trying to
Speaker 3: mimic the feel of a manual transmission on a DCT
Speaker 3: gearbox is gonna seem silly eventually, Like if you want
Speaker 3: a manual transmission, get a manual transmission.
Speaker 2: If you want to sound like a V eight, why
Speaker 2: don't you just put a V eight in it?
Speaker 3: You know. Otherwise, let's celebrate the positives that evs have
Speaker 3: to offer, Like silent operation is a pretty cool thing
Speaker 3: in a lot of settings.
Speaker 1: Sure, instant torque, seamless acceleration. You know, you don't have
Speaker 1: to go to a gas station, which I don't love doing.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people is, especially women, hate
Speaker 1: going to the gas station. So yeah, there are lots
Speaker 1: of benefits. I and I think too, like I was
Speaker 1: talking with Tom Keen on TV last week, and like
Speaker 1: he said, do people want to buy evs? And I said, well,
Speaker 1: you know, the sales are saying no. But here's the
Speaker 1: real underlying factor. People will adopt new technology when the
Speaker 1: new technology is better and easier and makes more sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah right.
Speaker 1: For instance, no, how many of us have a cell phone,
Speaker 1: an iPhone, a smartphone, everybody. There was no problem getting
Speaker 1: people to adopt using an iPhone, even when they're very expensive,
Speaker 1: and there were no you know, incentives to buy a
Speaker 1: cell phone. People just phonied up and bought it because
Speaker 1: it was so much better, it was so easy to use,
Speaker 1: it made life better. And I I'm not against evs
Speaker 1: at all. I'm just against bad cars who are over
Speaker 1: problems well instance, and I think the American consumer actually
Speaker 1: is probably kind of the same.
Speaker 3: I mean, when we were talking with Kevin Tynan, formerly
Speaker 3: of Bloomberg now the Presidio Group, I listed off a
Speaker 3: handful of evs that I absolutely love, and he said, yeah,
Speaker 3: but those are all one hundred thousand dollars plus cars.
Speaker 3: And I had never really thought about that, but it's true,
Speaker 3: Like I would like a number of EV's like a
Speaker 3: g Wagon the y I love that, absolutely love it,
Speaker 3: and think of any drawbacks to that thing, Like I
Speaker 3: would have no problem spending twenty five hundred dollars on
Speaker 3: a charger for my garage, and I'd take it in
Speaker 3: every night when I got home, and I would need
Speaker 3: to worry about range or going to the gas station.
Speaker 2: But of course it's, you know, outlandishly expensive.
Speaker 3: A buddy of mine who didn't want to spend too
Speaker 3: much just got a Sierra EV truck. Okay, that actually
Speaker 3: is a figure truck when you get the Dnali version.
Speaker 3: But you know he's coming out of a Cayenne and
Speaker 3: he loves it. It's a different experience. Obviously, it's huge,
Speaker 3: but it's got monster torque and it feels like a
Speaker 3: luxury vehicle on the inside. So I'm sure that, like Tony,
Speaker 3: I eventually will get an EV as well. I actually
Speaker 3: still have my reservation in for the Scout Traveler if
Speaker 3: that thing ever happens.
Speaker 2: Like cool, I really want one, but.
Speaker 1: We need to try a slate. Have you driven a
Speaker 1: slate yet?
Speaker 2: I haven't driven one. I've been offered the experience. I
Speaker 2: would like to try it.
Speaker 1: We should just a reference.
Speaker 2: He scouts about that thing.
Speaker 3: It was supposed to be twenty and then they were
Speaker 3: like mid twenties, and now they're like, it's only thirty
Speaker 3: and so the price is creeping up.
Speaker 2: Fine, I guess inflation does that.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how that is.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I'd be able to put it
Speaker 2: together the way I want.
Speaker 3: You know, I get that the scout I'm pumped about,
Speaker 3: like if they actually put it out, and I'd rather
Speaker 3: have the full be EV version than.
Speaker 2: The silly.
Speaker 3: Range extending four cylinder or whatever, like, I don't need that.
Speaker 3: I'll be pumped if that thing comes out and is affordable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And Tony the second part of
Speaker 1: his question about like, would you recommend a true all
Speaker 1: analog car?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Are you saying would we recommend a true all analog
Speaker 1: car in general? Yes? Or are you saying, would you
Speaker 1: please recommend to me a specific true analog car that
Speaker 1: I should buy?
Speaker 3: I think? He says, what would you and Hannah each
Speaker 3: recommend to someone if they wanted to buy a used
Speaker 3: analog sports car? And I my knee jerk reaction was
Speaker 3: obviously a nine ninety seven. But the truth is there
Speaker 3: are so many options.
Speaker 1: Depends on your budget, depends on what you want to
Speaker 1: use it for, depends on where you live. Honestly, what's
Speaker 1: the weather like, what are the roads, like do you
Speaker 1: have children, do you have a dog? Do you want
Speaker 1: to drive it every day to the office or do
Speaker 1: you want to just drive it on the weekend. It's
Speaker 1: where do you want to keep it? Do you want
Speaker 1: to keep it in a garage or like just out back.
Speaker 1: There's so many factors.
Speaker 3: But by the way, that's my happy place is like
Speaker 3: having a chunk of money dedicated to you know, making
Speaker 3: that kind of purchase and then doing that search because
Speaker 3: you can cast wide wide web. I mean you can
Speaker 3: go from Miata to nine to eleven and everything in between.
Speaker 3: There are cars from the seventies, eighties, nineties, twenty tens.
Speaker 3: I mean there are are even still fairly analog sports
Speaker 3: cars available. They're few and far between these days, and
Speaker 3: I'm not fans of all of them. Now that are
Speaker 3: affordable options, you can still buy like a subrew w
Speaker 3: RX or b r Z, you know, and have a
Speaker 3: stick shift and uh, you know, have a have a
Speaker 3: naturally aspirated.
Speaker 2: Motor, and there they're just a lot of great choices
Speaker 2: that you can make.
Speaker 1: So well, I'd be remiss if I didn't say, you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: the whole span of the Corvette history, every every generation,
Speaker 1: every series you know up till recently, and honestly, you
Speaker 1: know me, I love an old Rolls Royce talk about
Speaker 1: completely analog. Those things are completely analog. But you know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe not for everyone, but yeah, I really you.
Speaker 3: Know what, we have to get Mark Royce back on
Speaker 3: the show from General Motors because I've been thinking lately,
Speaker 3: everyone's revealing pictures of i mean fake you know, mock
Speaker 3: mockups of what a Corvette C nine would look like
Speaker 3: the next generation.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen those. Are they terrible? Are they good?
Speaker 2: Some of them are gorgeous.
Speaker 3: I mean basically they if you think of a C
Speaker 3: eight and then it's refined to be a little bit smoother.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like it. I like what I see.
Speaker 2: At least I love it.
Speaker 3: And now we're starting to see companies come out with
Speaker 3: potential solutions for a manual swap to the C eight,
Speaker 3: and you have the Ferrari idea of basically masking a
Speaker 3: DCT with a digitally UH with a manual sort of
Speaker 3: mimicking transmission. Like I think there's so many options for
Speaker 3: Corvette to bring back a manual transmission, which don't forget
Speaker 3: they had for every single generation from nineteen fifty whatever
Speaker 3: until now.
Speaker 1: So I actually think seeing some of these C nine renderings,
Speaker 1: Corvette's ready to pop. They're ready, there's there's there's room
Speaker 1: and opportunity for a real comeback here. Not that it
Speaker 1: needs to come back, but I always think Corvette is
Speaker 1: always underrated and under respected.
Speaker 3: So I have to think it's less now with the
Speaker 3: C eight because the residual they don't they don't lose
Speaker 3: so much value anymore, not just the C eight, but
Speaker 3: the C seven as well. You look at a C
Speaker 3: seven Z six and it's still pretty pricey, good good
Speaker 3: if I look for I'm always on the hunt for
Speaker 3: an E Ray Ray because I'm waiting for the used
Speaker 3: prices to fall when everybody wants to buy a Grand
Speaker 3: Sport X instead, you know, bigger, bigger gas motors coming out,
Speaker 3: or redesigned interior that a lot.
Speaker 2: Of people like better.
Speaker 3: I'm happy taking last year's E Ray. Yeah, lest over
Speaker 3: amazing car, but they just don't get cheaper. They don't
Speaker 3: get any cheaper.
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