1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,399 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: Hi, my name is Robert Lamb and this is the 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: Monster Fact, a short form series from Stuff to Blow 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: Your Mind focusing on non mythical creatures, ideas and monsters 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: in time. This week, I'd like to dip back into 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 2: the Star Wars universe to discuss the beloved blue or 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: Tolin keyboardist known as Max Rebo. Anyone familiar with the 8 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: Tatooine music scene during the late Imperial period would recognize this. 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: Maestro of the Red Ball jet organ. Max Rebo and 10 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: the Max Rebo Band played for some of the most 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: powerful underworld figures of the day, including Job of the 12 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: Hut and later the New Republic era Daimio of moss 13 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: Espa Boba Fet. Now, I intend to mostly focus on 14 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: Max Rebo's fingers in this episode, but in reading up 15 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: on this species in the Star Wars Alien Archive, that's 16 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: an excellent two thousand and nine illustrated book that I 17 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: highly recommend. My entire world was rocked by a startling revelation. 18 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: Max Rebo wasn't playing with his fingers, he was playing 19 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: with his toes. So, first of all, as someone who 20 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: grew up with Star Wars and with those Star Wars 21 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: Kinner toys. This is simply incorrect. I just cannot accept 22 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: this on some level because not only did I have 23 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 2: the Max Rebo action figure with circular organ that he 24 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: got to put him in and he played. It's also 25 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: one of the very few Star Wars toys from my 26 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: childhood that I held onto. It's currently in my son's bedroom. 27 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: And when you pull Max Rebo out of his red 28 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: ball Jet organ, he has legs. He has a pair 29 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: of stocky legs with toes very much like his what 30 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: I took to be fingers, and he's wearing some sort 31 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: of a loin cloth that I always found interesting is 32 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: the same color as his body, so that they didn't 33 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: bother to paint that anyway. I'm not sure if this 34 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: is truly extended universe material, or to what degree you 35 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: could make an argument for it being cannon, but it's 36 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: just too central to my childhood understanding of alien anatomy 37 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: for me to completely dismiss it. Max Rebo may be 38 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: a blubbery, snooted, flipper eared blue alien from the planet Orto, 39 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: but he is clearly a four limbed biped right I mean, 40 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: that's just how we were raised. But not so according 41 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: to the Alien Archive authored by Natalie Club and Katrina Palante, 42 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 2: and also not according to behind the scenes details from 43 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: Return of the Jedi, the first film in which we 44 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: get to see Max Rebo in his amazing band. This 45 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: is discussed by Pablo Hidalgo in the twenty thirteen Star 46 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: Wars dot Com post Star Wars Mysteries Getting to the 47 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: Bottom of Max Rebo. The evidence is just irrefutable, I 48 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: hate to admit, as Hidago shares in this post. When 49 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: one looks at the original art by production designer Norman 50 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: Reynolds as well as the actual creature work by the 51 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: legendary Phil Tippett, Max clearly only has two limbs, and 52 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: they translate more as legs than arms when you see 53 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: the full creature. Maybe, as Hidago explores, those ears are 54 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: actually flippers and would constitute a second set of limbs, 55 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: but I don't know. You really need to check out 56 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: the images in this post. There are also additional sketches 57 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: depicting what the real Max Rebo would look like standing 58 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: on these two legs that he uses to play the keyboard, 59 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: and I found this interesting too, because it brings to 60 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: mind the flightless moa, the extinct flightless moa from our 61 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: own world, an actual exam sample of a two limbed 62 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: organism having gradually lost. In this case, it's wings to evolution. 63 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: So to say, the least depictions of or tolin anatomy 64 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: are inconsistent. Maybe we're ultimately looking at two different species here, 65 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: even I mean it's I'm assuming the planet is fairly large, 66 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: there's enough room for two different variations on the same form. 67 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: I hold out hope for that interpretation, as I can't 68 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: bring myself to throw this Max rebo action figure out, 69 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: or at least throw it out of the cannon in 70 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 2: my mind. Either way, the digits Max uses to play 71 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: his scynth are thick and blunt, ending in apertures that 72 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: his species apparently uses to consume food. After all, they 73 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: don't seem to have a mouth on their snoot or snout. Instead, 74 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 2: they are these little holes or mouths, even at the 75 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 2: ends of its fingers and thumbs. Now, I can't think 76 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 2: of any natural world creatures that closely resemble this, but 77 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: it's worth remembering that you do have things like the 78 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: hagfish that can feed without opening its mouth. It absorbs 79 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: nutrients through its skin, and the hagfish is the only 80 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: vertebrate with this ability, but you have various examples of 81 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: invertebrates sharing the ability. Now, while Max's red ball jet 82 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 2: organ features keys appropriately sized for his thick fingers, it 83 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: did make me wonder about human keyboard players with thick fingers. 84 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: As pointed out on the blog music Drifter, there are 85 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: slight playing style differences for individuals with thicker fingers, different 86 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: ways to attack the keyboard and attack the piano, but 87 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: this hasn't stopped great keyboardists with thicker than average digits 88 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: in the past, including Sergei Rachmaninoff, who famously boasted large, 89 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: powerful hands with long fingers. Beyond this possible example, I mean, 90 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 2: you can look to various examples of human musicians that 91 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: have overcome various physical limitations to play music, including playing 92 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: the keyboard with their toes. So, however he does it 93 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: with feet or hands or alien feeding tubes, there's no 94 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: doubting the musical brilliance of Max Rebo and the Max 95 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: Rebo Band. Long may he play in a galaxy far 96 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: far away. Tune in for additional episodes of The Monster 97 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: Fact each week. 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