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Speaker 1: Jack, name some of your favorite foods that you've eaten recently,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to see Zoe react to those foods.

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Speaker 2: So this morning, I sausa jad and cheese humble little bit.

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Speaker 2: So for lunch, I'll probably do like a Jimmy John's

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Speaker 2: O subway turkey sandwich with extra male.

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Speaker 3: This processed meats man. It's all process it hurts his soul.

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Speaker 3: I don't eat meat man at all. But listen, listen, listen.

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Speaker 1: What other favorite foods?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so can't you cheat those no more? Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: that's awful. Bron lemon oreos.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I do a pig big, big, can pull me to win.

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Speaker 4: I do a pig, big, big, singing a cat. I

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Speaker 4: do a big, big big com put me to win.

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Speaker 4: I do a big, big, big singing a cat.

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Speaker 5: I do a.

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Speaker 6: Pig big sing it again, I do.

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Speaker 1: A big What is up? What is good? How you living?

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Speaker 1: How you feeling? How you doing? And welcome back finally

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Speaker 1: to the Shahookah Lounge. It has been some time. It

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Speaker 1: is the big podcast with Shaq where we always do

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Speaker 1: it big and we have a very special guest. His

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Speaker 1: name has come up on so many podcasts that we

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Speaker 1: have done. He and Tim. I don't want to give

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Speaker 1: too much away. Can I give him the full introduction?

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Speaker 1: When it comes to the famed heat culture, this man

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Speaker 1: set the tone from body fat percentage to block shots.

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Speaker 1: He truly stands alone, from hoyas to hornets to heat.

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Speaker 1: His opponents would get down and beg and you do

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Speaker 1: not want to fight this man, or you'll be like

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Speaker 1: Van Gundy clinging to his leg, A champion on and

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Speaker 1: off the court, a warrior and life, a man who

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Speaker 1: has overcome and brought a message through the strife. Give

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Speaker 1: it up for a lot.

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Speaker 3: Morning he had him Shaq, my brother, I appreciate you

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Speaker 3: having me and thank you.

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Speaker 5: Who wrote that poem? Man Angelou?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I left, but it has always come up

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Speaker 1: because when Shaq went to the heat Man, they tested

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Speaker 1: my body fat and Alonzo didn't have none. I've heard

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Speaker 1: that story so many times.

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Speaker 3: Tell you what, tell you what he used to do

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Speaker 3: on body fat days? Okay, I'm happy I brought this up.

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Speaker 3: So he used to put baby on all on his

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Speaker 3: body so the strength coach couldn't pinch his fat and

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Speaker 3: do so.

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Speaker 1: What what what was his strategy? What was your body fat?

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Speaker 1: You were like a six percent.

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Speaker 5: He looked like a heat man though he put your

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Speaker 5: shirt on show.

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Speaker 1: Was anybody doing it like Zoe was doing it at

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Speaker 5: No, Listen, the way I looked at it is.

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Speaker 3: I was in an era where I was giving up

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Speaker 3: two three five seven inches and sometimes thirty forty fifty pounds. Sure, okay,

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Speaker 3: in with sinners. So we grew up in the area

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Speaker 3: where it was sinners. It was big guys every night.

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Speaker 3: Rick Smith's but Noid Benjamin Yeah, Uckworth, duck Worth.

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Speaker 5: I mean he's a big dude.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, who my man that his son is playing in Sacramento.

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Speaker 1: There's another one. He was big, you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Then you had David Robinson, then you had Patrick, he

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Speaker 1: It was all big man. So you had to be

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Speaker 3: So I figured, look, I wasn't getting any taller, so

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Speaker 3: I had to get faster and I had to be strong.

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Speaker 3: So that was my advantage. Yeah, and then Shack came

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Speaker 3: and was like he was another the wrestled with his

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Speaker 3: ad I can't even imagine. Almost definitely, And then when

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Speaker 3: we practiced him, I mean ironically, we ended up being teammates,

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Speaker 5: That's what was fat.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at everything to realize they went one two.

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Speaker 1: They're both in the Hall of Fame, which is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Right then, later in your career, you had said too,

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Speaker 1: you didn't wear thirty three in Miami because there was

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Speaker 2: Yes, and no, I didn't wear thirty three out of

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Speaker 2: respect to him because they felt we didn't like each other,

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Speaker 2: and we didn't, but not really always said Alonso and

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Speaker 2: Carl Malone made me realize I was a hypocrite in life.

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Speaker 2: Tell you why. First day I see him in the

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Speaker 2: So we never said anything. So I'm like, okay, we

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Speaker 2: was talking this man out for nothing. A lot of

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Speaker 2: it was marketing media and all that stuff. But Alonzo

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Speaker 2: is a nice, nice, nice fella. Thank you, brother.

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Speaker 5: It might be the nicest thing you ever said about.

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Speaker 2: No, it's true, and you know I'm quick to brag

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Speaker 2: about how I got four rings. I played terrible in

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Speaker 2: the finals. I was going through the divorce. This man,

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Speaker 3: It was nice shock. Well, listen, you know, teamwork makes

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Speaker 3: the dream work. And at that particular time, we had

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Speaker 3: a lot of guys that stepped up two thousand, but.

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Speaker 5: You stepped up. Yeah, appaciated.

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Speaker 2: Ye. The crazy thing is I'm going to the Bears

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Speaker 2: looking like that and passed it token in so looked

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Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, which made me feel even more like

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Speaker 2: Alonso want to come. I said sure because I know

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Speaker 2: he was with Jersey and like, I don't feel like

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Speaker 2: to say thank you. We're really good friends. Now I

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Speaker 2: I also want to give you a condolences. Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: both lost a brother, but you know him a lot

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Speaker 2: yet more than I did. Can you explain to the

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Speaker 5: Uh? Well, first of all, thank you for that.

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Speaker 3: You know, for the past two years, you know, I

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Speaker 3: That's what he was about, you know, That's how he

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Speaker 3: reason because of how pure his heart was. Nobody had

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Speaker 3: he bought joy laughter and he had this deep belly laugh,

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Speaker 3: And he was fun to be around. And he was

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Speaker 3: he wanted to continue to do that around the globe,

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Speaker 1: To him all around the world, and you.

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Speaker 3: Know, it's just incredible the impression he left on the world.

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Speaker 3: You know, when you think about Deep man, you know,

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Speaker 3: you talk about that we don't see anymore. We really don't,

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Speaker 3: you know. But the game has changed tremendously, you know,

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Speaker 1: You know. To kembe in college, do you have like

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Speaker 1: a moment when you guys first met each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was twenty two first of all New

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Speaker 3: Deep for thirty six years.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I met it when I was eighteen years old, baby, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he was twenty two.

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Speaker 3: We were always kind of joke with him about he

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Speaker 3: And he taught himself English, you know. So they sat

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Speaker 3: That's I guess that's what they did in his country.

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Speaker 3: They just cooked me cook. I mean, he's just experimenting

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Speaker 3: It's like, no, I'm going to cook this stricken and

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Speaker 1: I just imagine there's all this and then he's wearing

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Speaker 1: like a chef. I don't know why, why so much smoke?

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Speaker 1: That age?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: What a what a time? You know, Yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: you got John Thompson. So you're you're, you guys are experiencing.

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Speaker 1: And that's the other thing about guys like you. You

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Speaker 1: understand that you guys can relate to each other that

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Speaker 1: no one else can understand. You walk through the quad

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Speaker 1: eyes like that except for Deeke. You know you want

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Speaker 1: you guys walk in the airport. No one else you

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What the difference is that I'm still walking through the airport,

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Speaker 3: he's still flying private very true. Walking through no damn man,

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Speaker 3: But you imagine I can't walking walking through Atlanta Heartfield.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys going seven and one and they're gonna make a

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Speaker 1: I even think back to when you guys played, the

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Speaker 1: rivalries felt heated. Like I mentioned Jeff Fang, you can

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 3: I remember in the playoffs when you know, Scottie and

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Speaker 3: So now as everybody's hugging coombye, yeah, hey man, get

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Speaker 1: You guys get called like old heads or haters for that,

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Speaker 3: As nineties basketball, and I continue to get feedback from folks.

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Speaker 5: They miss it.

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Speaker 3: You know, they missed the physicality of the game they

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Speaker 2: So I have a witness. My cousin Kenny was in

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at him over here is deanding. So my mom,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, you know what the best of me?

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Speaker 2: I don't what the best to do that? And that's

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Speaker 1: I know for you, you're like we're rivals. Were you like

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Speaker 5: You know? It was this every time we played both.

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Speaker 1: First team All rookie both twenty and ten.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if I don't know if white

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Speaker 2: people we know when we don't like it. You other

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Speaker 2: he looking at me and like he signs me up

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Speaker 5: Obviously, he had a great college career. Zach Edy. You

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Speaker 3: He plays big, you know, set good screens, roll hard

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Speaker 3: To answer your question, do I see anybody EMBD ANDB.

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Speaker 1: Know, dominating in the paint. You know, if he stays healthy.

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Speaker 2: You know, he said the other day, he's not playing

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Speaker 2: That's the only problem I ever. Like you shoot a

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Speaker 2: it seems like we hate each other. I remember I

496
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Speaker 2: got the news like everyone else. But you have to

497
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Speaker 2: retire kidney problems? Can you elaborate on that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You know, health is everything, big fella, especially what you

500
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 3: think about our careers.

501
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Speaker 5: You know. And you know when I got.

502
00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 3: Struck with the news that that had this retired from

503
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: the game of basketball because I had this rare kidney

504
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 3: disorder and it was deflating, it really was, you know.

505
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: And I don't know why you wasn't on the Olympic team.

506
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 5: Then in two.

507
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 3: Thousand Sydney, Sydney. Why weren't you the on the Sydney team.

508
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 5: I was shooting Kazam, but don't worry about it. Were

509
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 5: shooting Kazz shooting.

510
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: Cassem prevented you f that was a Hollywood hit.

511
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 5: Yeah it was.

512
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 2: It was.

513
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: Kazza.

514
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 5: I was don't tell me about it. Oh Jesus Christ,

515
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 5: you know.

516
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: So I thought you're gonna be like I had already gone.

517
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: It was no Kazza. That's incredible.

518
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Speaker 3: So anyway, I know why I wasn't on the team

519
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: in ninety six because I had I had a foot

520
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 3: problem at that I was supposed to be on the

521
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: Olympic team with y'all. So I was on the one

522
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 3: in two thousands, you know. But anyway, long shortly that

523
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 3: I noticed, you know, that I had swelling in my

524
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: legs that was getting taped during the metal round of

525
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: the game.

526
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 5: The metal round about to.

527
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 3: Go out there and play, and we're about to play

528
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: friends in the medal and the gold medals, sure, and

529
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 3: I noticed they were taping my legs.

530
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 5: I was like, man, what is going on?

531
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: And then the trainer was like, yeah, you've been You've

532
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 3: been flying a lot, you know, this summer and on

533
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: and off of planes. I had to fly back for

534
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 3: the birth of my my second child in the middle

535
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: of the Olympics, you know, fly all the way back

536
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: to Miami, then fly all the way back to Australia.

537
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: You know. The inflammation, yeah, yeah, you know. And they

538
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: blamed it on that. Then I started feeling real tired,

539
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: but I still finished the game, ended up getting the

540
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: Olympic Player of the Year, Basketball Player of the Year,

541
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: all of that stuff, you know, we went the gold medal,

542
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: all that stuff.

543
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: Get back home or fly back home. I'm on the plane.

544
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: My mom was like, I mean, your legs look a

545
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: little swollen.

546
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: And I was like yeah, mom, And I got to

547
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: get it checked that when I get back, got back,

548
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: did the routine physical with the team, preseason physical, and

549
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: they noticed some abnormalities in my body. Chemistries and come

550
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 3: to find out, they said, look, you know, creating level

551
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: had increased. Creating is the blood level that they gauge

552
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 3: in the tests to regulate your kidney function. And then

553
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: come to find out, they said, look, man, we're gonna

554
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 3: have to send you to a neprologist. I didn't even

555
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,239
Speaker 3: know who a neprologist was.

556
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's a kidney doctors.

557
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: A kidney because I had never heard that. Yeah, So

558
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 3: I went to the nephrologist. They did a biopsy. So

559
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: I had a rare kidney disease called focal segmental mari looscrosis.

560
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: It's a disease that slowly scars the filters in your kidney,

561
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: you know. And and come to find out, I realized

562
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: that it's an actual form of kidney disease called a MKD,

563
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: a pole l one mediated kidney disease.

564
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 5: Wow. And it's a.

565
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 3: Rapidly progressing genetic form of kidney disease caused by two

566
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: variants of the apo l one gene. You know, at

567
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: that particular time, the doctors didn't really know that.

568
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: I have to imagine you're sitting there going excuse me. Yeah, man,

569
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: Like I am mister four percent body fat. I missed

570
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: her best basketball player in the world. Yeah, and you're like,

571
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: you got to run that by me one more time.

572
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, And I'm glad we're talking about

573
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: this because you know, at that particular time, I was

574
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: the picture of health, and I was in great shape

575
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: what have you, you know, and just a routine physical

576
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: identified that I had this. I would have probably continued

577
00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 3: to ignore this. It's just plain swelling, little swelling. Yeah,

578
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: maybe from all the travel, you know, maybe I'm a

579
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: little tired, I need to rest up, what have you,

580
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: you know. But immediately once I found out, man, you know,

581
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: I was shocked simply because I felt like I was

582
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: in the best shape of my life.

583
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 5: How could this happen to me?

584
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: You know, So when you think about it statistically, you think,

585
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: after educating myself on kidney disease over the years, you know,

586
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: there's almost thirty seven million Americans who suffered from crime

587
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: to kidney disease.

588
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: And probably most don't even realize.

589
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: That, and most don't even realize and I'm glad you

590
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: said that, you know, because one of the things that

591
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: we encourage, you know, and when I say we, you know,

592
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: through my partnership with Vertex Pharmaceuticals and we have, you know,

593
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: created this initiative where we would try to go around

594
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 3: the country and educate as many people as we can

595
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 3: about being proactive with their health.

596
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 5: You know.

597
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: We created this website called power Forward Together, you know,

598
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: which has allowed us to kind of educate the community

599
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: and help them to know what steps they need to

600
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: take forward towards being proactive with their health. And it

601
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: starts with obviously going to the doctor and getting the

602
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: checkup and not ignoring the little symptoms like I had

603
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: a lethargy, maybe a little swelling, you know, feeling really

604
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 3: fatigued and what have you. You know, So you think

605
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: about these particular symptoms. There's people that have these symptoms

606
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: on the regular, every day, yep, and they ignore them.

607
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 3: So we're trying to encourage people to be a little

608
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: bit more proactive with their health because there could be

609
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: some underlying reasons why that they're having these particular symptoms.

610
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: So you talk about being proactive, man, I don't like

611
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: going to the doctor, so when you say, go to

612
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: the doctor once a month, once a year, right, once

613
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: a week.

614
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: I well, that's what I recommend. First of all, I

615
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: recommend you go to the doctor at least once a year, okay,

616
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: at least full checkup, especially men.

617
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 5: You know.

618
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: And you know when when you think about the general population,

619
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: uh of folks, you know, many are the ones that

620
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: are a little bit more hesitant to going to the doctors.

621
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 5: Yeh out.

622
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 3: We've been told as when we were younger, to suck

623
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: it up, be a man, You'll be okay, you know. Uh,

624
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 3: And you know, there's also a certain level of fear, anxiety,

625
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: a there's a there's a lack of trust when you

626
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: go to the doctor, you know, because unfortunately, you know,

627
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 3: when when people do go to the doctor, you know,

628
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: they feel as though that, okay, I feel great, so

629
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: I don't need to be here, right. So therefore when

630
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: they're in the room, that when they're in the room,

631
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: they fail to have the conversation that they need to

632
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: have with the doctors in order for them to do

633
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: maybe identify, you know, some underlying causes of or obstacles.

634
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: Does anything wrong, No, I'm great, Yeah, your leg has

635
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: been swelling.

636
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 5: Out yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

637
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: So the longest short of it is is that you

638
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: know a lot of these particular diagnoses, ah really you

639
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: don't feel the symptoms into it. It's way too it's

640
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 3: way too worse, you know, and you know a lot

641
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: of times that's when it's too late, you know. So

642
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,959
Speaker 3: getting out in front of it, being proactive with your health,

643
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 3: finding a doctor that you trust, developing a relationship with

644
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: your doctors, which is extremely important.

645
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 5: You know.

646
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: It's the routine physicals, the the medical procedures that you

647
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: might need to have, finding somebody that you need that

648
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 3: you can develop a relationship with, and sometimes that might

649
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: have to take not just one visit to that. Now

650
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: you might have to find another doctor, and then you

651
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: come to conclusion of who you can.

652
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: I remember when that happened with you, the retirement. That

653
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: was the first time I had ever heard of kidney

654
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: diseases in that way, right, Like you kind of became

655
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: the face of that, and I'm curious. So you do

656
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: all this testing, you experience all of this, and then

657
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: you came back and won a championship when they diagnosed

658
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: the kidney issue that you had, and then they started

659
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: to take the necessary moves afterwards, did you start feeling better?

660
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: Like how quickly when it was addressed did you get

661
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 1: back to healthy zone?

662
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: Adam, That's a great question, you know when you when

663
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: I was diagnosed, immediately, I had to retire until I

664
00:35:53,160 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 3: got my medical situation under control. This was new to

665
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: a lot of my doctors because they had never worked

666
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 3: with a professional athlete that had a poor L one

667
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 3: mediated kidney disease. Right, so I was fortunate enough for

668
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: them to diagnose. I had found some doctors that I trusted,

669
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 3: and it was very well experienced, you know. So they

670
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: were which allowed me to get back on the court

671
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: several months later, and they had, you know, prescribed some

672
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: drugs that slowed the progression of my disease down at

673
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 3: that particular time. And ultimately I needed a transplant three

674
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 3: years later. But initially the initial mythologist told me that,

675
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: you know, I was going to be on dialysis, that

676
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: I don't need a transplant within a year.

677
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 5: Wow.

678
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 3: But I ended up playing three more years before I

679
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: even needed to transplant, you know. So that's why it's

680
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 3: so important for you to get a second and third opinion.

681
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: Sometimes when you're dealing with a lot of your medical obstacles,

682
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: especially as it pertains to kidney diseases. It's important to

683
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 3: try to do your research and get get multiple opinions,

684
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 3: you know. But it's a great question because I didn't

685
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: think I was going to come back.

686
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 5: And play again.

687
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: You really thought you were done.

688
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 5: I thought I was done, you know.

689
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: And that was my question, Like, at one point you

690
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: get the news, you thought you're gonna be done, Right,

691
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: at what point did it switch for you to say,

692
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm not done, I'm gonna come back.

693
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: Well, my doctor in New York shared with me that

694
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 3: there could be an opportunity for you to come back

695
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 3: and play. But I had to keep myself hydrated, which

696
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 3: is extremely important, and to this day, since I've had

697
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: my transplant, the importance of hydrating my body is extremely.

698
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: Hence a liquid death. Hence the liquidam of the day.

699
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 5: Two gallons of day.

700
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: I drink a gallon of water. I saw you walk

701
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 3: drink drinking water. Yeah, but you gotta drink water, man,

702
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: I mean you.

703
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: Don't like drinking water.

704
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 5: Rink I have a question.

705
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: I treat my body like gas tank. I'll go until

706
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: I feel dehydressing, and then I drink two gallons to

707
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: the head. That is that okay to do? No, it's

708
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: not okay, No, not at all. And I'm not a doctor.

709
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 3: You're right, you should go and talk to about big fella.

710
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 3: Big fella drinking water when I wake up in the morning.

711
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: The first thing I do, I drink eight ounces of

712
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: water as soon as I wake up in the morning.

713
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 5: Orange juice.

714
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: I don't drink any orangejuice. Too much sugar in it. Listen,

715
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: you know what I've gotten rid of.

716
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: The difference in body fat?

717
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, hey, you know what I've gotten rid of.

718
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 3: I'm tell you what I've gotten read of. I've gotten

719
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 3: rid of anything that causes inflammation in my body.

720
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 5: You don't breakers no more.

721
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I eat vegan burgers. Yeah, I eat plant

722
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 3: I eat plant based burgers. But anyway, the long and

723
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 3: short of it is sugars, all right, animal products, dairy,

724
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 3: All of that stuff causes milk for your cereal al

725
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: the milk or oat milk, oat milk.

726
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 5: I do oat milk. Drink coffee.

727
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 3: I drink a lot of tea from heat. I drink tea.

728
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: I drink green tea. I have a question, Can I

729
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: put two scoops of sugar and green tea two scoops

730
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 3: of sugar. No, just drink it as is. You sip

731
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 3: on it and you drink it is sweet. I give

732
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 3: you a little bit of honey, A little bit of

733
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: honey sugar.

734
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: What good tea? You're a mind? I mean, he gets

735
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: a tea aid for him when we're on set. Right,

736
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: if you saw the ingredients of this tea, come on, man,

737
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: you can't he will stare at a camera and just

738
00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: turn the sugar over.

739
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 5: That's not cool now, now that all Now.

740
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: This is why you used for your body. And so

741
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: it was like wherever you want, brother.

742
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 3: Look all right, so you know what so so so

743
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: listen at this particular stage in our lives, you know,

744
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 3: we got more behind us than we're do in front

745
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 3: of us. Okay, all right, so we got to be

746
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 3: a little bit more proactive because we ain't running up

747
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: down to court anymore and burning.

748
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 5: All of that.

749
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 3: You know, we're not burning the the calories like we

750
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: used to. So when you think about that, you gotta help,

751
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: you help yourself.

752
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 5: Since we're great friends.

753
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: Was that you tell me something you want me to

754
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: stop doing it, and I'll stop doing it today.

755
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: If you just lay off all dairy that's.

756
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: That's that's too easy because I don't do a lot

757
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: of I don't do a lot of milk. Hold on,

758
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: what about cheese? I can't put no cheese on, So.

759
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: Please pick some butter and cheese. But they have plant

760
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: based butter and cheese. No cheese, no, Ma, you just

761
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: ask me, You just asked me.

762
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, what were you hoping?

763
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 5: He was gonna say burgers like the meat and all that.

764
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: But I don't aries number one and I don't no deal,

765
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 3: no dirt, No, I'm serious, all right.

766
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 5: Dairy, no dairy, no butter, cheese or milk milk. I

767
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 5: don't really frust the flegs. I want to poast you.

768
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: To have oat milk, rabb and milk with your milk, or.

769
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 5: Oat milk unsweetened almond milk.

770
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: Just to wrap up a lot of what we were

771
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: saying though, go to your doctor, yes, get checked, and

772
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 1: then ask questions and be honest.

773
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 5: Yeh yeah, listen.

774
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: You know, first of all, I'm so committed to raising

775
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: awareness of a mk D because I know how many

776
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 3: lives that it affects, you know. So this website that

777
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: we've created with Vertex called Powerforward Together dot Com is

778
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: an educational to help people understand the impact of kidney disease.

779
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 5: Okay, check and check it out.

780
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: If you're feeling a little bit, you never know.

781
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 3: And more importantly, you know, when people go to the doctor,

782
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: and we spoke about this earlier, they don't know how

783
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 3: to communicate with the doctor while they're in the office,

784
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: well not to talk to the doctor. So we talk

785
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 3: about on the website. You know, you know how to

786
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: engage in a dialogue with the doctor when you're in

787
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: the doctor's office. You know, so you can be a

788
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: little bit more proactive with your health and get the

789
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 3: things checked that you need. And you got to be transparent.

790
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 3: You have to be trans More importantly, you know, you

791
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: got to find a doctor that you can develop a

792
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: relationship and that you can trust.

793
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: I actually went to the website and I was looking

794
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: and the downloadable discussion guide kind of caught my eye.

795
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, I'll go, I'm someone that when I

796
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: go to the doctor, I keep like a note and

797
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: anytime I'm feeling something, I put in there for when

798
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: I go talk to the doctor. But the discussion guy

799
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: on the website was great. I'm also curious I saw

800
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: that it disproportionately impacts is it men of African descent

801
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: or people of African descent.

802
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: So these variants can be found in those of us

803
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: that are African Afro Caribbean wow descent, you know. And

804
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: it is massively underdiagnosed in the black community. So unfortunately,

805
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: you know, when you think of it being underdiagnosed, you know,

806
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: you can actually go to the doctor. A lot of

807
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: times they're not even looking for it, and they're not

808
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: looking for it, which is why we have this website

809
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: so you can go to so you can talk to

810
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 3: your doctor.

811
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: Discussion guy was good for that because you might not

812
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: know what to say, but just use.

813
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 3: Those power Forward Together dot com, All Forward Together dot com, Yeah,

814
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 3: all Ford Together dot com. Yeah. And you know what,

815
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 3: I just want to change the narrative. I really do,

816
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: you know, because especially you know, people don't go to

817
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: the doctor until it's too late. Health happens to them.

818
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, you know, and if you don't have your health,

819
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: you have nothing, man, you really don't, you know. And unfortunately,

820
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 3: you know, especially men and men of color, these this

821
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: particular kidney disease APO L one mediated kidney disease is

822
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: rampant in the African American African American community. And with

823
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 3: that said, with that said, because we don't go to

824
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: the doctor, we don't find out until it's too late.

825
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 5: You understand what I'm saying. You know, So we want to.

826
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: Encoura everybody be a little bit more proactive with your health.

827
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 3: But but again, we want to change the narrative as

828
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: it pertains to uh people not going to the doctor

829
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: until it's too late.

830
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: We're talking about men a lot. This disease also affected women.

831
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: Of course, it affects women. Yes, this disease affects males. Females,

832
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 2: make sure you go to your doctor and get your Yes,

833
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: it does, and and and I will tell you this.

834
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 3: And I always use this analogy as well. You know,

835
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 3: when we're driving our cars and the check engine light

836
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: comes on, a lot of times we're like, oh, you

837
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 3: let me see how far I can get. Yeah, you

838
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 3: understand what I'm saying. Yeah, see how far I can go?

839
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: I can definitely takes it to the shop. Yeah, as

840
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 3: soon as my check engine light comes on, I go

841
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: to the to the shop.

842
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: You guys are so opposite in so many Yeah.

843
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, let me see how much father I can go? Like, no, man,

844
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 3: I'm scheduling it tomorrow, I'm dropping it off, you know.

845
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: But I want people to kind of start taking care

846
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: of their bodies because because a lot of people take

847
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 3: care of their cars better than they take care of

848
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: their bodies. You know, they put the proper fuel in it.

849
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: You know, they wash it, they clean it, they take

850
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 3: care of it. We don't do that to our bodies.

851
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 5: You know.

852
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 3: We put trash in our bodies. Like I said, you know,

853
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: we put all these inflammatory foods and sugars and everything

854
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 3: in our bodies, and we don't just do you feel bad?

855
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 5: Cheese?

856
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: Put cheese on everything, and sugar your tea and your

857
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 3: green season a cab.

858
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 5: Can I make a can I make a dietary trade? Okay?

859
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 5: What is that?

860
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 3: You don't want me to go dairy? Can I trade

861
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 3: the dairy for sugar? Come on, sugar is the worst

862
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 3: one or the other, all right? If you just stop

863
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: eating sugar completely, and you know what this is going

864
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 3: to require, you're looking at the ingredients you stuck.

865
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 5: You got it.

866
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 3: The only sugar that you can have is in plants

867
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 3: and fruits and vegetables and stuff like that.

868
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 5: That's the only sugar you can have. And I can.

869
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 5: You can't add white sugar to stuff.

870
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: You can't do that, And I can use a dove.

871
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 5: The only sugar I'm allowing you.

872
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: To use a cave wow, Stivia, honey.

873
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 5: The only sugar I'm allowing you to use is honey.

874
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: Oo.

875
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: Okay if I if I do that, then I can

876
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: go back to having cheese and butter. Just say, we

877
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: gotta make a trade, a fair trade turkey sandwiches.

878
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm back. So, my my wife is in she's a

879
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: licensed pharmacist, and so she's always trying to help people

880
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: with lifestyle changes because that's how you can handle the symptoms.

881
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: But sometimes I know this can stem genetics. Like you're

882
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 1: you're mentioning African heritage, and that is this also something

883
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: that even if you're living a health life like you were,

884
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: you could be born with us.

885
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah you can't, you know, which when we talk about

886
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: you know, knowing your family history, that's extremely important, Okay,

887
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 3: knowing that if you have kidney disease in your family,

888
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: just like if you know if you have diabetes, hypertension,

889
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 3: all of that stuff. You do your due diligence, Okay,

890
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 3: and understand your family history, which is something that's very

891
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: taboo and a lot of the African American families, well,

892
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 3: we don't talk about our family history with our medical history.

893
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 5: You know, we just don't talk about it.

894
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's generational.

895
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 5: You can change, yes, you can, you know you can't.

896
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: And you know, the long short of it is that

897
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: when I found out, immediately I thought it was something

898
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 3: that I did.

899
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: You know, but you're eating now falfa sprouts and race exactly.

900
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: Well, I'm taking good care. I'm taking care of myself.

901
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 3: It wasn't quite our full.

902
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: Cheese sugarhead over.

903
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 5: The genetics are different, you know, but one brain of salt.

904
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 5: But when I.

905
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 3: Found out that my kidney disease was linked between the

906
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: APO L one genetic variant and kidney the's disease, it

907
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 3: had not been discovered yet at that particular time when

908
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 3: I was diagnosed, and then as time progressed, I found

909
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: out that through my nepthrologists, he said that we're looking

910
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: for some additional testing and samples from people who had

911
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 3: this kidney disease. And after kind of talking with him

912
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 3: a little further about this, you know, he talked to

913
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: me about doing a biopsy them taking a sample and

914
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: through that they did a study and you they did

915
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 3: a study. Yes, wow, that was published, you know, and

916
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 3: they made tremendoustras over over the years, and I worked

917
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 3: with the nephrologists to participate in the study that that

918
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 3: actually helped lead to the discovery of what is now

919
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: known as the Apo l one.

920
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: So that thing you keep mentioning april l one because

921
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: they took your like, they studied your genetics. Yes, you're

922
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 1: part of the reason why we even know this thing exists.

923
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 5: Yes, wow.

924
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 3: And my doctor at the time, through my relationship with him,

925
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: you know, I trusted that this was the right thing

926
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 3: to do and we started the process, you know, and

927
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 3: medical advances have been made because of it. You know,

928
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 3: now we have more knowledge about this particular disorder and

929
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 3: also understand that there's strong genetic ties to it and

930
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 3: we can actually actually do genotyping now to find out.

931
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: So you've it's something that happened to you, and now

932
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: I feel like you've taken ownership.

933
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 5: Yeah.

934
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the most important thing is just educating

935
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 3: the community, because once we're educated on it, then we

936
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 3: can actually take the necessary steps to being proactive with

937
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: our health from that perspective, you know, especially if you're

938
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 3: of African American descent, you can say, you know what

939
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 3: I mean, go to my neprologists or go to just

940
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 3: go to my regular general practition and just ask questions.

941
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 5: Just ask the questions.

942
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, I saw Until Morning on the Big

943
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: Podcast Doctor, and I brought these questionnaire. I like that, Well,

944
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: you're doing everything I've heard about you at Alliance, that

945
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: you're trying to lead the way. I am curious though,

946
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 1: the way that you guys see life so differently. When

947
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: you were on the same team. How often were you like,

948
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: come on, big fella, and then how often were you like,

949
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: leave me alone all the time.

950
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: So it's funny that you ask that. And I'm gonna

951
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 3: bring this one up, and I'm sure you to remember this.

952
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 3: I'm sure you remember this. We're in the middle of

953
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 3: a drill and it was a tough ass drill in practice,

954
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 3: real was intense. This is when Roles was coaching, right,

955
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: So practices we're intense. Okay, So we're in the middle

956
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 3: of this drill and he taps me on the shoulder.

957
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 3: He's behind me. He said, Man, slow down a little bit.

958
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 3: You're going too hard. I gotta go hard too. I

959
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 3: looked back at him. I said, I had some choice words.

960
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 3: Say it just saying No, I had some choice words.

961
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 3: I said, when you're big ass getting foul trouble, I

962
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 3: got to come.

963
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 5: In for you, so I gotta be ready.

964
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 3: So I said, I don't play the minutes you play,

965
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 3: so I get my I'm getting in shape so when

966
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 3: you do file out, I gotta you know. So he

967
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 3: looked at me, you know, put his head down. He

968
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 3: started going hard too. So so he was telling me

969
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 3: to slow down in the drill because.

970
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: My thing is, and like coaches don't under sentence, I

971
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: gotta get beat up by him in practice, then you

972
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: want to get beat up in the game. No, let

973
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 2: me relax and practice because I know what I got

974
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: to do in the game. You know what I got

975
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: to do. But I'm not gonna be wrestling with him

976
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: all day. And they got to go rest with somebody.

977
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 3: But you think about our practices, okay, used to you and.

978
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 5: To beat us up too. Man, you're big motherfucker what

979
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 5: each other about.

980
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: To beat us up? Talking about I can definitely see

981
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: you say something like, oh yeah, elbow.

982
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 5: So we used to trade blows.

983
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 3: Okay, practice, But the thing about it is is that

984
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 3: we made each other better. We did, we made each

985
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 3: other better, and more importantly, the way we practiced. The

986
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 3: games were easy. The games were easy with the way

987
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: we practiced. Oh, the games were easy.

988
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: I always hear when a new guy gets to the Heat,

989
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: how will they assimilate the Heat culture? Has anyone fought

990
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: for their individuality and he culture as much as this

991
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: guy from your three decades with the franchise?

992
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna tell you what, if he would have

993
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 3: started his career with us, he would have a different mentality. Okay,

994
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 3: he said, Nope, he would He would have had a

995
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 3: different mentality.

996
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: So you think it's different if someone starts with the

997
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: Heat versus someone joining. You develop a mentality because you

998
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: get them when they're young.

999
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

1000
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: He development mentality that he wouldn't be fun shack.

1001
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got the AI practice. I'm talking about practice, man,

1002
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 5: We're not talking about the game. Well, practice practice.

1003
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: When he came there was there a part of you

1004
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: that was like, this isn't.

1005
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 3: Gonna work, you know what. He fought back, but he

1006
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 3: drained the kool aid eventually, and look what happened. We

1007
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 3: won the championship. You know what, I'm saying he fought

1008
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 3: back a little bit, yeah, because he was so stuck

1009
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 3: in his ways. He had always run three.

1010
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: So this is the most imanted player ever back championship.

1011
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: How do you tell somebody sweet tarts on his How

1012
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: do you listen? How do you tell somebody that just

1013
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: one back to back to back? Yes, championships? Okay, three?

1014
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: Pe all right?

1015
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: Then he comes to us and then we're forcing him

1016
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 3: to do it a different way.

1017
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: You know, did you feel like Pat would use you

1018
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: to get points across?

1019
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 5: Yes? Yes?

1020
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: What is it like being the guy that more like Zoe?

1021
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: Exactly what he did? He was like, come here, take

1022
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: your shirt off? Looked like he man. I was like,

1023
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 2: he looks.

1024
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: I've heard his perspective where he's like, what is it

1025
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: like when the coaches use it? Because then you're kind

1026
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: of like the class pet, you know what I mean?

1027
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: Like you don't want to be the suck up?

1028
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't be in the suck but I did listen.

1029
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 3: I didn't do a whole lot of talking. You didn't

1030
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 3: talk a lot.

1031
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: I let my effort in my play do all the

1032
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: talking for.

1033
00:55:58,640 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 5: Come here, take your shirt off?

1034
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: Was like impressive? Yeah, so you were followed you and

1035
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,479
Speaker 1: also you'd be in room.

1036
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 5: But he listen.

1037
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 3: His credit, he came, He made a commitment, He got

1038
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 3: itself an amazing shape with us. He did that shape

1039
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 3: of your career, oh for sure, other than when you

1040
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 3: were in Orlando. Come on, now, I never work out

1041
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 3: in the summer. But you know, let me tell you

1042
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: on the bike, your big ass on the bike, that's

1043
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 3: because I had to. But that's what I'm saying. You

1044
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 3: drink the kool aid. Does know what I'm saying. You came,

1045
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 3: you did what we asked. You can't drink anymore, No, sugar,

1046
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 3: don't beat.

1047
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 5: Me so much. Beat me up so much.

1048
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 2: During the season, I was taking the summer off because

1049
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: what people don't understand. I only had to prepare for

1050
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: two people, him and maybe David robson him or maybe

1051
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: he can't. So if it was like twenty cents, I

1052
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 2: had to compete for like so I adman. I used

1053
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: to take all somewhe off and then just working my

1054
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 2: way into shape. But before I got to Miami, pat

1055
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: I kind of told me what I needed to do,

1056
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 2: so I got traded. I was I had a little

1057
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 2: chipp on one shoulder, so I came in kind of

1058
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: you know, skinny. But then Pat was always to me,

1059
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 2: as you go down, like Pat for real.

1060
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 3: Get down there, you get down to like three hundred, right,

1061
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 3: two ninety three. But he was man, you were two

1062
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 3: ninety brother. He wanted me to go from fifteen to

1063
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 3: eleven percent. Body fact. Yeah, well you were sick a

1064
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 3: long time. Come in here, take your shirt off.

1065
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: What is something that because you had this draft night

1066
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: rivalry and talk to me, you're always going to be

1067
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: linked together. Yeah, but when you became teammates, what was

1068
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: something that maybe you didn't know about him that you

1069
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: grew to appreciate and then the same thing for you.

1070
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 5: I didn't know he get wrapped like that that blew

1071
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 5: me away?

1072
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: Was he doing in the locker room?

1073
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 5: Hey?

1074
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: One of his tracks on his rap album? I was like,

1075
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: oh that's tight.

1076
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 5: Uh? Who was doing?

1077
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: Don't dum doom dum.

1078
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 5: Got so many you can't start, you can't start? The

1079
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 5: yeah was tight. Yeah, he was flowing with it in

1080
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 5: it too.

1081
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah he got.

1082
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 5: He's no reggas, but it was.

1083
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: I was. He went so then so then you were

1084
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: you had like this beef with him kind of in

1085
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: your head. But then when you became teammates, What did

1086
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: you appreciate about.

1087
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 5: Being I didn't realize he was that funny and that

1088
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 5: nice and that stuff.

1089
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: He does the funniest things ever. Did I've heard your pranks.

1090
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Speaker 2: It was just funny. It wasn't about being praised. Just

1091
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 2: he has a great such of humor, gotcha. And I

1092
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 2: didn't know what he was doing in the community. You

1093
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: don't talk about it a lot, but he has this

1094
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: amazing Alonso Morning Center that looks like a damn lifestyle

1095
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: fitness gym. They got everything in their classrooms, food courts.

1096
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 7: You know.

1097
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 2: But like he's he's a community got similarly like me,

1098
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: Like I'm liued with it. Hey look like that. I

1099
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: never know he did until he called me there and said, hey,

1100
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: come by, and I checked it out. Was very impressed,

1101
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: but just fortunate enough through our.

1102
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 3: Brotherly friendship that we've established over the years, you know,

1103
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 3: Shock came over and visited our center, fifty six thousand

1104
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: square feet facility, charter school, in school, after school, summer programming.

1105
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 3: We provide services to over four thousand children and families,

1106
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 3: all holistic services, educational service.

1107
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 5: And what have you. And he got one.

1108
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 3: Of his corporate partners to write us a big check

1109
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 3: and now we have the.

1110
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 5: Icy hot court in the o you know.

1111
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: You know, so he came over and visited us, and

1112
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 3: it was pretty nice. It was you know, we spent

1113
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 3: he spent a day and we did some media and everything,

1114
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: and yeah, it was nice.

1115
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 5: Man. I appreciate you for that. I appreciate it. Yeah.

1116
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: What percentage of NBA players do you think can handle

1117
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: the way that you guys used to work and the

1118
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: way how physical and how demanding. How many NBA players today? Zero?

1119
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: Oh players, You're not not regular.

1120
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 2: It's a couple that got the end of us, like

1121
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: Lebron and KD and those guys. But new ones, I

1122
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: don't know, hard to say, big guys. Maybe a joker,

1123
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: maybe joker joker. You know what, Yanness, you think you're honest?

1124
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: I think just how hard he goes.

1125
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 3: He goes hard. Yeah, but yeah, but you don't think

1126
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 3: you're too late. I think he would have. Yeah, I

1127
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 3: mean he still takes a beating though. You don't know

1128
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, he takes a beating. I

1129
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 3: think Janni's man, he's so, I mean, he's cut up

1130
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 3: like I was. You know what I'm saying so, yeah,

1131
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 3: I can see that. Yah. Yeah, But let me tell

1132
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:12,959
Speaker 3: you what Terry Cummings Oak, Anthony Mason, Uh remember hey,

1133
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 3: you letting them boys lay that wood on you. They

1134
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 3: take you out of the air.

1135
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 4: Horn.

1136
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 5: I mean the list goes on season two. Yeah, I

1137
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 5: don't have that no more. Oh, don't had that no more.

1138
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 3: I mean those guys, the guys in this area have

1139
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 3: not felt physicality until they felt those guys. Wow, oh

1140
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 3: my god, Buck Williams, are you kidding me? I mean,

1141
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 3: come on, man, the physicality of the game back then

1142
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 3: it was unreal, you know, which is another reason why

1143
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 3: I stayed in the weight room.

1144
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: Man.

1145
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 3: I mean I had to stay strong otherwise they will

1146
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 3: break you down.

1147
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 2: That's another thing we do after three hour practice as

1148
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 2: be in the weight room versa climber, versa climbing curls

1149
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: and peppy that you need to get in the weight

1150
01:01:58,600 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: room like I'm like, now.

1151
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 5: Go to the crib, me and Burger. Hey, listen, my

1152
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 5: body was a business. I don't do that no more.

1153
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 3: I just maintain. Now I watch what I put in

1154
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 3: my body. Now, the stories I've heard. Tea with no

1155
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 3: sugar tea, Man, you sit on a man, little green

1156
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 3: tea man, this.

1157
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: Is actually funny. I want to do.

1158
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 5: Can I just.

1159
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 3: Listen a little bit of honey? Can I just now

1160
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 3: a little bit of honey? Why you pick sugar? It's

1161
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 3: like it's sweet, man, and that's why you walked around

1162
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 3: so your knees hurting every day?

1163
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 5: My need, my heip. Give me your prediction. Who's coming up?

1164
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 5: I know you?

1165
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:35,959
Speaker 1: Hold on? Hold on. I want to say all food

1166
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: really quick, because this is actually really funny.

1167
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 5: Shack.

1168
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: Name some of your favorite foods that you've eaten recently,

1169
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: and I just want to see Zoe react to those foods,

1170
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: like what like we went to it TJ's rib shack.

1171
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, I just said the name of the place.

1172
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 2: I'm a creature of habit right, So this morning I

1173
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: had sausage, EG and cheese humblet go to bed.

1174
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: Joe.

1175
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 3: You're my boy. I'm not giving the mamelet. I'm let

1176
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 3: you know that right now. Let's let's switch it up. Okay,

1177
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 3: find what you having the omelet, but get you some

1178
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 3: plant based cheese and you can do turn sasage. No

1179
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 3: plant based sausage. They have plant based sausage. The whole

1180
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 3: foods and get it.

1181
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 5: I got that.

1182
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 3: You can get that stuff out of there. I'm finding

1183
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 3: what you're doing and do an egg white omond. How

1184
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 3: about you do that?

1185
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: Okay? What other favorite?

1186
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 5: And if you got to do pan cakes like that okay?

1187
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 3: Or if you got to do bread, just make sure

1188
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 3: you do multi grain hole we bread all right?

1189
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 5: Bread is the worst. No butter.

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01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 3: You can get some plant based, brother, but it's pretty good.

1191
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 3: It's actually much better for you. It's made out of

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01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 3: oat milk.

1193
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 5: I sell them. Okay. Yeah.

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01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 2: So for lunch, I'll probably do like a Jimmy John's

1195
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 2: on subway turkey sandwich.

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01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 5: With extra male.

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01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: Well, that's sess meats man, it's all process. It hurts us.

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01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 3: And then for dinner, I do steak, steak or chicken.

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01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 3: You don't need meat, yeah I don't. I don't eat

1201
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 3: meat man at all. But but listen, listen, listen.

1202
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: One of my favorite moments was we were on TV

1203
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: and a commercial for Burger King came up and he

1204
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: looks at me and he goes, I need a whopper

1205
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: right now. When's the last time? Now? Now opposite, when's

1206
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: the last time you.

1207
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 5: Ate fast whopper? Oh?

1208
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: Man, Jesus, how many years. We got to be over

1209
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Are you ever and that looks really good?

1210
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: Would you ever be like, I'll spit it out. I

1211
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: just want to taste it. That cight it? No?

1212
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 3: Because I can make me a nice, appetizing, tasty plant

1213
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 3: based burger.

1214
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but come on, there isn't like an ice cream

1215
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: that you've even thought about a piece of cake and

1216
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,439
Speaker 1: apple pie. Well, you can get ice cream from Whole

1217
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: Foods that's made out of oat. Gosh, I totally totally made.

1218
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 5: Out of oat oat milk.

1219
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 3: Or if I want some ice cream, I get some sobey,

1220
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 3: some lemon so obey.

1221
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 2: So okay, give up one of those things. But I

1222
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 2: can't give up.

1223
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: Like this too.

1224
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 5: No put pats that like this?

1225
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: What is Pat? What's Pat's vices? In terms of like food?

1226
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 3: Man, I've seen him heat chocolate chip cookies every now

1227
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 3: and then. I've seen them eat those. Will you ever

1228
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 3: go to him and be like, hey, man, they got

1229
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 3: vegan ops with him? He's seventy he's seventy nine. Brother,

1230
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 3: what wait? Listen when she reached his age.

1231
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 5: You know.

1232
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 3: He got a lot more behind him than he does

1233
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 3: in front of him. Enjoy yourself, brother, You earned it.

1234
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 3: You enjoy yourself. I don't mess with him. So can't

1235
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 3: you cheat those no more? Oh my god, brother, that's awful, brother,

1236
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 3: lemon oreos. I want you to look at the ingredients

1237
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 3: can't even pronounce, and you're putting it.

1238
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: In your body?

1239
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 5: Man?

1240
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 3: All right, okay, yeah, you start me with the ded

1241
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 3: that you use and the notions that you use.

1242
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 2: Oh man, but I smell good. You want me to

1243
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: be must in the club. I'm gonna help you out,

1244
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 2: all right. So how about this? Usually I'll grab a

1245
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 2: sleeve of oreoles. What if I just take two?

1246
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 5: Okay? No, none, whatsoever? Now? Yeah? Fine? Healthy options?

1247
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: All right? So I think now's the perfect time to

1248
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: bring a pack of sugar on stage.

1249
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 5: Candy.

1250
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, our producer Shane has an idea.

1251
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's not gonna play, So me and you

1252
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 5: gotta play.

1253
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: Uh so Shack. I believe producer Shane wanted to see

1254
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: how many words that we could rhyme with shot candy

1255
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: named after you.

1256
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 5: Brother.

1257
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 3: That is pretty impressive. It's crazy, boy. You know what

1258
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 3: I made this for all the people that don't like me.

1259
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 3: Bite my head off, all right, you go.

1260
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: First, Okay, hold on, So I have the sour one.

1261
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: There's a truck which is eaesel. This is the big cactus.

1262
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: There's also the big shamrock. But we have to see

1263
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: how many words we can rhyme with shack delicious. So

1264
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: I will go with delicious.

1265
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 5: Okay, I will go with superstitious.

1266
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: Lonzo, you're on it's sour. Uh staticitious, that's not a

1267
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: word I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Alonso doesn't think

1268
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:35,959
Speaker 1: these are nutritious. It ain't that chee.

1269
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 2: I'll go, oh my, what you say nutritious? Yeah, but

1270
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 2: they're delicious.

1271
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: Already said that.

1272
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 5: He's ambitious. Very nice.

1273
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: I would say a lot of Shack stories are fictitious.

1274
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, but when I bite my own head, vicious, very

1275
01:07:55,720 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 5: nice shout. And if you don't like his in, he'll

1276
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 5: give you stitches.

1277
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what my mama would smack me if

1278
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: I said the word.

1279
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 2: I'll say it for you. Like Denzel said, I'm putting

1280
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: casoes on all you bitches.

1281
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 1: That's where ending.

1282
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 2: These are good, putting cases on all you one.

1283
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, to eat one of those? Would you do it?

1284
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 5: No?

1285
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: He thought about it, which is more.

1286
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 3: I don't need a million That's what I'm saying yeah,

1287
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 3: but I don't need it. If you donate it to

1288
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 3: my foundation, then yes, you donate one million dollars.

1289
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: You would eat a gummy.

1290
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 3: I'll eat one of those gummies because because our detox

1291
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 3: for a full day and get it out.

1292
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: Of my What is alonzo detox? I mean sauna, steam.

1293
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 3: Fresh juices, man carrat beet, celery, juices, salads.

1294
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 5: That's oh yes it is.

1295
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 2: What's their drink? I always drink citrus magnesium. It says

1296
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 2: drink one drink too. That's how your detox.

1297
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: No, there's a reality show. You two on a road

1298
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: trip beaten.

1299
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 5: Celery with a little ginger.

1300
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 3: With some wet grass shots. Wha, oh brother, that'll run

1301
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 3: at This is a reality show, no doubt.

1302
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: Like you guys go to dinner and it like one

1303
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: meal is all Lonzo foods and then one meal is all.

1304
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna tell you this, with all of the

1305
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 3: medical options I've had to deal with, Okay, I had

1306
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 3: a kidney transplant, I've had nine surgeries. Well, I've had

1307
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 3: seven basketball related five knee surgeries. I've had a broken finger.

1308
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 3: Here got caught in Dennis Robins jersey and it got

1309
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 3: ripped and got ripped out of the socket. I was

1310
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 3: remember Andrew the clerk. I was diving on the floor

1311
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 3: for a loose ball in Old Miami Arena and the

1312
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 3: top of his head hit me in the side of

1313
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 3: my head, so it broke bones in the side of

1314
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 3: my face. So I had to get that fixed, had

1315
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 3: an appendectomy. I just recently seven months ago, had process

1316
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 3: cancer surgery. So you're clear though, right, I'm cancer free.

1317
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 5: He ain't telling me. Yeah.

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01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 3: And that's another thing, man, I mean I found you

1319
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 3: know how I found that out through a routine physical

1320
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 3: I had. I had no symptoms. So go to your doctor, man,

1321
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 3: on a regular at least at least once.

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Speaker 1: You were saying, you've been through all the stuff, all of.

1323
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 3: That stuff, okay, And I'm still here. And the reason

1324
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 3: why I'm here because I'm so proactive with my health

1325
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 3: and worried about the things that helped heal my body,

1326
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 3: you know, because I mean, it's a lot of people,

1327
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 3: it's a lot of people that if you if they've

1328
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 3: gone through the things that I've gone through like that

1329
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 3: with surgeries and health obstacles.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, it wouldn't be here to talk

1331
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 5: about it.

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01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 1: You know, Can I talk about one thing that I

1333
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: appreciate about you, which is just that you you love

1334
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: the game so much and you're willing to sacrifice for

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01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: the betterment of the team. Yes, and I think that

1336
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: in this day and age where people watch highlights more

1337
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 1: than full games, people are so afraid this is a

1338
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: bad subject to get dunked on. Sorry, you think Shack

1339
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: was afraid to get dunked on?

1340
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he used to file just to keep him.

1341
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 3: You know, you took.

1342
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 5: The file man. You like, nobody ever dumped on me except.

1343
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 3: For some person Eric Coleman, you know, used to just

1344
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 3: file something.

1345
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 1: Used to take him my day. You should just file.

1346
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,759
Speaker 1: So that's what his advice to you would be. Okay,

1347
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: So I'm not afraid you did go for.

1348
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:55,879
Speaker 5: I met him at the rim.

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01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: But the time I'm outside of that, the downs that

1350
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 1: you get dunk don't that man, I've been dumping Carter

1351
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 1: went into the Hall of.

1352
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 5: Fame, Vince Carter.

1353
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 3: You you how many times if I blocked Vincy shot,

1354
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1355
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you a few times. So

1356
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: they only like that you're a gangster because you're like,

1357
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: I don't care if you got me.

1358
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 5: Got me?

1359
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

1360
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 2: So I was at that game because I was on

1361
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 2: the team. So when he got dunked on, he came

1362
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 2: back the bitch like that, he said, fuck you.

1363
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: Ship. Shaq would just put a four arm and oh

1364
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: he would have caught him.

1365
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 5: And then in the third row, no doubt he would

1366
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 5: have called him. He would have knocked the wind out.

1367
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: Of But if Vince was here, Shaq would go, you

1368
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: were one of my favorites. I would never put my hands.

1369
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: So you think it was fear. I always thought Shaq

1370
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: was being here forser.

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01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: No, it's not fair. Let me tell you something. I

1372
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 2: deal with something worse than critics, Ken Dog, uncle Jerome

1373
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 2: and my father. I don't want to hear that ship.

1374
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 2: So he wouldn't let you. Oh no, no, no, you

1375
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 2: know I don't. I don't want to hear none of

1376
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 2: that when I know so, you know, so I'm laying

1377
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 2: them out.

1378
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: Is there ever a time where a block feels as

1379
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 1: good as dunking on someone? Like, were there any blocks

1380
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: in your career that you're like, those were my best blocks.

1381
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 3: I mean the six that I had in two thousand

1382
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 3: and six Finals Game six, those six blocks, those were

1383
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 3: most fulfilling.

1384
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, and so then afterwards, that's because you

1385
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: definitely took pride in.

1386
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 3: It, Oh for sure, most definitely, you know. I mean

1387
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 3: I listen, I took pride in defense period.

1388
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 5: You know.

1389
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you're not going to shut people down,

1390
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 3: you know, but you can make it a lot more

1391
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 3: difficult for him, which in turn, you know, helps the team,

1392
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 3: you know. I mean it was all about doing what

1393
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 3: I could to help the team, you know, and that

1394
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 3: if that, you know, turned into wins for us, then

1395
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 3: so be it.

1396
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: You know.

1397
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 3: But that's what it was about, you know. That's why

1398
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 3: we complimented each other.

1399
01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:58,719
Speaker 5: So totally.

1400
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think each other have to ask about is

1401
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 1: because it's I still see it on social media all

1402
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: the time. Is you sitting on the bench and then

1403
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 1: going that meme? I feel like is everywhere.

1404
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 5: It is to this day.

1405
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: But you know what that means? What was the moment

1406
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: did you see the score? You guys down like thirty,

1407
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 1: were down like forty against Chicago? We got to ask kid,

1408
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 1: that was the next year. No, you all got your ask. Well,

1409
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:34,719
Speaker 1: you was on the team. I have that guy crazy.

1410
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: You remember what we were thinking.

1411
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 3: I mean, it was ring night and we got to

1412
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 3: ask kid. Yeah, and then that is won championship and

1413
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 3: it was ring night and they came in and whooped

1414
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 3: our ass.

1415
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: And so were you sitting there being like, well, at

1416
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: least we have the ring, Like, do you remember what

1417
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 1: you were thinking?

1418
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 3: I remember I was thinking, you know, but it was, uh,

1419
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 3: it was it was a deep thought.

1420
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: It was when you get you literally convinced you yourself.

1421
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, ten seconds.

1422
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 3: I mean because you think of the emotions in the beginning, Hey,

1423
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 3: I got my red yeah, and then we get the

1424
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,959
Speaker 3: dog thrashing she live thrashing by Chicago.

1425
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 2: You know, I've been a part of a lot of

1426
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 2: championship teams, but that team after we won, every day

1427
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 2: after after the parade was a party.

1428
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well South Me was a party. No, no,

1429
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 5: every doll. You know what I'm saying.

1430
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 1: Every day I don't understand.

1431
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 2: Soyday you walking like so you win in June, so

1432
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 2: like in August, you walk in the restaurant, September you

1433
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 2: walk in the mall like it was just a party.

1434
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 1: It wasn't like that in La No.

1435
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 5: No La was you do the parade And.

1436
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously they were used to winning in that. This

1437
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 3: was our first man we was June twenty two, thousand

1438
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 3: and six, you know, took the franchise thirteen years and

1439
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 3: thirteen years.

1440
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 5: And imagine if you drink it. See I don't drink,

1441
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 5: so imagine if you drink at those parties.

1442
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: So you don't drink either.

1443
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 5: I love my veno brother. You know wine's veno. I

1444
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 5: don't think Oh yeah, wow.

1445
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: Bino is like the Italian or Spanish word for wine.

1446
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 5: Okay, got it? Yeah yeah, yeah yeah it is. Yeah.

1447
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 5: But that hookah though, no hookah? Man, give me a

1448
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 5: good give me, give me good?

1449
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 3: Uh you the moderate and a glass of wine and

1450
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 3: we good to go?

1451
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 1: Gummy bears and hookahs and alonzo.

1452
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,600
Speaker 5: And cigars and what about what about you?

1453
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 3: Give me a I was just call last yeah, I

1454
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 3: mean yeah, sorry? What about a Padrone twenty six is

1455
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 3: one of the most exquisite cigars in the world?

1456
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 5: Really, what about the padrone twenty six? Padron? Oh?

1457
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: Do you like hey padrome?

1458
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1459
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh hey, yes, yes, yeah, yeah you know

1460
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 3: about droles man, that's all Miami Dad brother used to

1461
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 3: living man.

1462
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 5: You still living by love you guys.

1463
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: I just want to say that I could tell that

1464
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: you guys are so different in so many ways. But

1465
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 1: I could also tell that you love each other, and

1466
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 1: I think that's really beautiful. And you're in the Big

1467
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 1: Man alliance. I know you got G fourteen classifications.

1468
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,480
Speaker 5: But listen. One of the things that.

1469
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 3: I did not know how he felt about me, but

1470
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 3: he showed me when he got inducted into the Hall

1471
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 3: of Fame, you know, and when he asked me to

1472
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 3: be there on stage when he got inducted. That hit

1473
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 3: home with me, you know. So that left a place

1474
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 3: in my heart. Man, And I appreciate you, big fellow.

1475
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 3: I really do you love you?

1476
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 5: Man?

1477
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 2: You understand when you're coming into eighteen nineteen, you don't

1478
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 2: know a lot. Yeah, a lot of stuff I was

1479
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 2: doing was very silly, but coming from where I come from,

1480
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 2: when you make certain gestures, you let me know it

1481
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,600
Speaker 2: was on. It was me, Jerome and Ken Dog. He

1482
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 2: had a couple of boys in the elevator and see that.

1483
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 2: Look how you're looking at it up? He look look.

1484
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: So he didn't saying us, I figure, okay, it's hard. Yeah,

1485
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 2: like we we played hard. We never spoke like we

1486
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 2: you know, like if I see my dogs, but we

1487
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 2: never had that way. I love his mama never had dinner,

1488
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 2: man anything. Yet when he went through that thing, I

1489
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 2: was like, man, I felt for him. But then when

1490
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 2: he came back, and then when Pat said, hey, man,

1491
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 2: we got a chance to get him, I was like,

1492
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 2: you know what, he could help me. When I can

1493
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 2: help him win, go ahead and bring my home. But

1494
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 2: when he got in the locker room, I didn't realize

1495
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 2: he was as nice as he was because, like you know,

1496
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 2: when he came in the locker room, like you know,

1497
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 2: the same damn look he got. No he look, I look,

1498
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 2: and then he said, what's up d you? Then we've

1499
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 2: been cool of it. And next time you go to

1500
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 2: the hospital, tell him and put these hands on you.

1501
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:44,719
Speaker 2: Now you I appreciate you.

1502
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 1: Everybody.

1503
01:18:49,080 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he got dog Joe, he can't act the

1504
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 2: bench mis call like that, he said, fuck you shit

1505
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 2: h