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Speaker 1: Welcome to the jag Xam. I'm kind Hona Stephens, Brian Sexton,

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Speaker 1: John Ozer with me today as the Jaguars are playoff bound.

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Speaker 1: We're preparing for the wild card matchup against the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills this week. As we look ahead to that opponent

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Speaker 1: and also look a little bit about where this team

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Speaker 1: came from about a year ago, let's go over our

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Speaker 2: Three hundred and sixty.

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Speaker 1: Five days ago, the Jaguars didn't have a head coach

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Speaker 1: because they had just released Doug Peterson and there were

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Speaker 1: so many question marks.

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Speaker 2: About three or four weeks after.

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Speaker 1: That, Liam Cohen became the new head coach of these Jags. John,

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Speaker 1: we've kind of talked about this and how far this

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Speaker 1: team has come in a year, but to see what

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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen has been able to do with this team,

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Speaker 1: it becomes even more impressive when you look at it

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Speaker 1: in terms of what he's done in such a short

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Speaker 3: Well, it's remarkable. And you know, as you do this,

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Speaker 3: you be around the NFL for a long long time,

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Speaker 3: you get an appreciation as time goes by of how

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Speaker 3: much structure and belief matter around an organization, and I

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Speaker 3: think that, you know, everything else, Trevor's development, all the

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Speaker 3: very quickly you realize that between Tony Basselli and James

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Speaker 3: Gladstone and Liam Cohen in no particular order there that

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Speaker 3: there was going to be structure, there was going to

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Speaker 3: be doing things the right way, and above all, Brian,

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Speaker 3: the players were going to over time believe strongly in

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Speaker 3: the direction. And I think that's why you have the

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Speaker 3: feeling that you have all the other stuff. But I

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Speaker 4: I mean, what bears that out is the fact that

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Speaker 4: Antonio Johnson, you know, MONTERK.

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Speaker 5: Brown, look at all the players who are.

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Speaker 4: Playing at a really high level who we doubted. Devin

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Speaker 4: at the players who were here who didn't play like

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Speaker 4: they are right now, and you can understand the depth

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Speaker 4: and the breadth of what these men have done. They

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Speaker 4: took what was here and made it better. They brought

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Speaker 4: in some guys and added But the biggest story to

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Speaker 4: the season is the way that guys who were here

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Speaker 4: that didn't play very well are all of a sudden

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Speaker 4: playing their best football, and I think that speaks loudly

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Speaker 4: about the coach, about the general manager, and about what

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Speaker 4: Tony Bisseli has done. They have created a system that

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Speaker 4: took what was here and made it better, and of

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Speaker 4: course thinking forward about what they're going to do, you

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Speaker 4: can see that they could be successful there.

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Speaker 1: Also, Biam Cohen certainly our coach of the year. I

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Speaker 1: think he'll be considered nationally for that as well. As

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Speaker 1: we go into our second big thing today, we're going

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Speaker 1: to look ahead to the Bills game.

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Speaker 2: Wild History.

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Speaker 1: We talk about the two wild card playoff matchups against

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Speaker 1: the Bills in the past. Brian, I know you love

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Speaker 1: to be our history buff here, but they've played the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Listen, a lot of people will remember the twenty

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Speaker 4: was Blake Bortles to Ben Koyak. But if you go

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Speaker 4: back to nineteen ninety six and the Jaguars first ever

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Speaker 5: The list is long and distinguished.

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Speaker 4: And the Jaguars did something that nobody thought they could do,

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Speaker 4: road at Ridge Stadium. This play, to me, signifies as

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Speaker 4: much as anything what the Jaguars did. They got big plays.

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Speaker 4: That's playing above the x as and o's. That's Clyde

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Speaker 5: Kyle.

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Speaker 4: The context here is is that the Jaguars were down

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Speaker 4: he had a brilliant run through the playoffs that year.

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Speaker 4: And they got big plays from Keenan McCart allen, from

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Speaker 5: John, I know you remember the game. You were there

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Speaker 4: It was a day in which the Jaguars played their

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Speaker 4: best football of the year. Here's that touchdown run where

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Speaker 4: And that's Chris Fielman, by the way in there as well.

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Speaker 4: Great players, the Jaguars, big players, made big plays that day,

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Speaker 5: That's what has to happen this year.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, it introduced the football world to

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Speaker 3: Tony and Sally. Yeah, but you're right, if we're going

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Speaker 3: Everybody talks about the Denver game the Buffalo game. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: I'm writing a loss, and all of a sudden, Clyde

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Speaker 3: it's never a one sided game. From that point, Clyde

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Speaker 1: Fun Absolutely hopefully another fond memory from this week's playoff game.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna look ahead. Our final big thing is Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Of course, he's the X factor in many games that

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Speaker 1: he's a part of, and Liam Cohen talked a little

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Speaker 2: Does so well.

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Speaker 6: He's extremely impressive. I remember, you know, twenty we played

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Speaker 6: why he's been an MVP candidate for a long time.

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Speaker 1: John, we talk about this is it's a team game,

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Speaker 1: but Josh Allen is one of those players that you

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Speaker 1: can never count out and he can take over a game.

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Speaker 2: What are the Jags needs to do to prepare this week?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you alluded to what I was gonna say. Guy.

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Speaker 3: You know, the phrase a quarterback lifting a team is

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Speaker 3: the most scary thing is how you can completely defend

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Speaker 7: We've all seen the play.

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Speaker 3: is the X factor. He's so strong and can run

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Speaker 3: be the best in the.

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Speaker 5: NFL at doing you. Yeah, that's why they call him Superman.

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Speaker 4: He puts the team on his shoulders and carries them.

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Speaker 4: When it seems like nothing is working or the situation

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Speaker 4: make a play. You realize, no quarterback in NFL history

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Speaker 5: He has his seventy ninth this season.

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Speaker 7: That's incredible.

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Speaker 4: This is not a guy that you look at and go, well,

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Speaker 4: You think that's a pocket passer, not him, and he

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Speaker 5: But if you can't stop.

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Speaker 4: James Cook, then Josh Allen and has some freedom, right

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Speaker 4: of a sudden, then Josh Allen runs you silly. He

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Speaker 2: Stay with us here in jack ZAM.

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Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, we'll do a little this

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Speaker 1: back into jagxam on this Wednesday. We're gonna play a

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Speaker 1: board material because the Jaguars are home underdogs. They got

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Speaker 1: the three seed. They're hosting the Bills, but dogs at

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Speaker 4: Love it because it reminds me of that ninety six

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Speaker 5: So I love it.

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Speaker 4: And plus jin, I don't think they're gonna be able

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Speaker 5: People know what's here.

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Speaker 4: They understand what Tony and James and Linham are capable of.

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Speaker 5: And with the quarterback in place now and.

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Speaker 4: Looks like he's ready to go, this team will only

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Speaker 4: they have this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll be a favorite most of the year next year. Look,

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Speaker 3: it's fine, it's probably good for this team. They're underdogs.

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Speaker 3: As I wrote in the ozon a couple of times,

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Speaker 3: I've never seen a point spread score a touchdown I've

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Speaker 3: the game's over. Do you ever really remember maybe the

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Speaker 3: Denver game when they were thirteen point hunderdogs back in

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Speaker 3: ninety six. I can't remember what the spread was in

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Speaker 3: any game this year, but leading.

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Speaker 7: Up to it. Sure, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit more about what this matchup

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Speaker 1: is going to look like. We're talking about Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: for weeks now, what he's been doing the past couple

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Speaker 2: But then when you look at Josh Allen and.

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Speaker 7: Got to play them.

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Speaker 3: And the point I'm getting to is in this game,

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Speaker 7: But because Josh Allen plays in this.

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Speaker 4: Listen, when you look at this Bills team, especially compared

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Speaker 7: The key to me in the first half of this game.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're gonna find out how good they are, right

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Speaker 5: Twelve touchdowns.

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Speaker 5: Seventy in the second game.

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Speaker 4: And I think that the Jaguars can do that to

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Speaker 3: I think the interesting factor is the Jayguars team really

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Speaker 7: Hey I got a sack.

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Speaker 3: But this team trips you up at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 7: Or fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: About against the Jaguars, there's a lot of teams that

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Speaker 7: Who you know, really.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's not a game for well adjusted men.

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Speaker 3: You really hit one of you and other teams don't

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Speaker 1: We talk so much about how good the run defense

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I was gonna say Anthony campan Eli was

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Speaker 3: And look, it's a game going into it. Deven Scorings.

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Speaker 7: You need to do.

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Speaker 3: The reason the Jaguars can win this game is because

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Speaker 7: If they could. But I always use it forraid.

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Speaker 3: You know, you have to break serve against a player

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Speaker 3: this time, you're third and seventeen. Don't let him pick

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Speaker 4: We talked about them being the number one running offense,

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Speaker 5: Well, why is that a problem because it.

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Speaker 4: Shrinks the number of possessions you get, so you can't

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: I mean you can't have back to back three and outs.

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Speaker 4: You've got this, as John mentioned, keep pace with this

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Speaker 2: Many Stay with us here on jag Zam.

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Speaker 1: We're going to look ahead at a little bit at

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Speaker 2: Go Jags, Welcome back in.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna look around a little bit, not get ahead

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Speaker 1: They're gonna get that first round by and potentially the AFC.

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Speaker 2: Will run through Denver at this point, obviously the Jags

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Speaker 1: It's kind of cool to at least have that measuring

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Speaker 2: If that's where they end up going. If they continue

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Speaker 5: They can cause they've done it before.

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Speaker 4: Uh, it will be much more difficult this time around.

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Speaker 4: That you're not gonna get a sixty degree day in

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Speaker 5: That's a place to play.

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Speaker 4: It's a tremendous advantage to play at that altitude.

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Speaker 5: And the Jaguars are not gonna sneak up on them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, there's some years where home field feels like

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Speaker 1: Exactly we should fair to mention because I kind of

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Speaker 1: And he's going up against that Texans defense that we

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Speaker 2: This week as well. That's a matchup we're gonna see

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Speaker 4: I don't know what to make of the Steelers. They

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Speaker 5: I mean they I think they're very good. With t J.

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Speaker 3: and it can overcun their offensive deficiencies. Anything can happen

444
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Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Maybe Aaron Rodgers gets hot. To me,

445
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Speaker 3: this feels like a game where the ten and seven

446
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Speaker 3: record of the Steelers against the twelve and five record

447
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Speaker 3: of the Texans. By the end of the game, I think, Okay,

448
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Speaker 3: that really was the better team. Because the Texans they're super.

449
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Speaker 7: Power to use that word I hate.

450
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Speaker 3: They can rush the passer on any offensive line, and

451
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Speaker 3: they can beat double teams, and they can out physically.

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Speaker 7: They're scary in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: Scary. I think they can force turnovers to get you

454
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Speaker 2: some points.

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Speaker 1: So that Texans defense is definitely gonna be a tough matchup.

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Speaker 1: And then the other ASC matchup is going to be

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Speaker 1: the Patriots hosting the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: There's a little movement.

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Speaker 1: We didn't know who was gonna be where, kind of

460
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Speaker 1: the top were set, but just who's gonna be playing where.

461
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Speaker 1: So now we know the Chargers are gonna head out

462
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Speaker 1: to New England, and it's hard to tell what that's

463
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Speaker 1: gonna look like because the Patriots haven't played a super.

464
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Speaker 2: Tough schedule as of way.

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Speaker 1: Obviously they play the Bills, but otherwise in opponents, they

466
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Speaker 1: haven't played a really high caliber team, and where they

467
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Speaker 1: match up against the Chargers will.

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Speaker 5: Make it interesting.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, this is real a really interesting game.

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Speaker 3: The Chargers have not been great in the postseason in

471
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Speaker 3: recent years. Herbert's got that thing on a playoff Herbert,

472
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Speaker 3: whatever that is. I don't buy that. I think Herbert's

473
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Speaker 3: really really good in this Patriots team. Kai you follow

474
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Speaker 3: the Patriots when you're growing up, they have to kind

475
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Speaker 3: of prove, probably even to their fans and themselves, where

476
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Speaker 3: this we deserve this number.

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Speaker 7: Two seed.

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Speaker 3: Because they are in a situation and I'm sure they

479
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Speaker 3: know it. They lose this game, everybody nationally is going, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they played bad schedule.

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Speaker 7: Aren't that good? I mean.

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Speaker 3: On that kind of a team that is kind of

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Speaker 3: a season. Everything you've done gets sort of thrown away

484
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Speaker 3: if you don't win this game. Somehaw it's not fair,

485
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Speaker 3: but that'll be somebody's narrative about the Patriots if they

486
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Speaker 3: lose this.

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Speaker 4: Justin Herbert got some rest, right they sat him in

488
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Speaker 4: the season finale.

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Speaker 5: Now can he get some help?

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Speaker 4: Watching him try to beat the Texans, it seemed like

491
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Speaker 4: he was trying to do it all by himself, and

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Speaker 4: Johnny you just extolled the virtues of what the Texans

493
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Speaker 4: can do the offensive line for the Chargers missing five

494
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Speaker 4: or six offensive tackles, including their two starters for most

495
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Speaker 4: of this season. But the one thing the Patriots don't

496
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Speaker 4: do well, they don't rush the pastor role that well.

497
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Speaker 4: So it would seem to me that Justin Herbert, who

498
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Speaker 4: has a big boy arm, if he can get some

499
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Speaker 4: help down the field, whether.

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Speaker 5: We're talking about Keenan Allen, or whether we're talking.

501
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Speaker 4: About the young Gadsden, the tight end, the rookie from

502
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Speaker 4: Syracuse or Quinton Johnston, if he can get some help,

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Speaker 4: I think the Chargers can pull the upset. And if

504
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Speaker 4: the Chargers pull the upset, Jaguars could be hosting a

505
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Speaker 4: divisional game.

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Speaker 3: And I think there is a little bit too. Remember

507
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Speaker 3: the Titans were top seed with Rabel as the head

508
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Speaker 3: coach few years back, lost that game, So there's definitely

509
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Speaker 3: going to be a storyline for him. He will I

510
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Speaker 3: don't think he'll feel it, but about him. Okay, you've

511
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Speaker 3: got what many people think of the best team. Can

512
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Speaker 3: you go back that up? Or did you pretend your

513
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Speaker 3: way into this fourteen and three record? I don't buy that.

514
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Speaker 3: Nobody pretends they're way to fourteen and three, but that'll

515
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Speaker 3: be the narrative if they lose.

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Speaker 1: You play the schedule in front of you, so you

517
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Speaker 1: don't want to knock anybody for who they're playing. I

518
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Speaker 1: think it's more the Jaguars will speak from experience with them.

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Speaker 2: It feels like they're.

520
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Speaker 1: Battle tested, feels like they know what a playoff game

521
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Speaker 1: is going to feel like. And I'm just saying, in

522
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Speaker 1: terms of who the Patriots have played as of late.

523
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Speaker 2: If the Chargers can come out ready.

524
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Speaker 1: To go at the beginning of that game, that might

525
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Speaker 1: be a little bit of a surprise battle test.

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Speaker 4: Sued is the right phrase, kai, because even though they

527
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Speaker 4: weren't necessarily looking at the standings every week or at

528
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Speaker 4: least they said they weren't.

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Speaker 5: They had the Texans nipping at their head.

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Speaker 4: The Jaguars won their last eight games, and they had

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Speaker 4: to win every single one of them, Otherwise they would

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Speaker 4: be on the road this week, playing in Pittsburgh on

533
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Speaker 4: Monday Night football. Instead, they're getting ready to play here

534
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Speaker 4: in front of their crowd with a standing room only

535
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Speaker 4: audience in attendance because they won each one of those games. Listen,

536
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Speaker 4: we found out in nineteen ninety six to go back

537
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Speaker 4: there for a moment that that hardened you for the playoffs,

538
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Speaker 4: when it feels like you're playing for your life every

539
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Speaker 4: single week. The Jaguars will not this will not seem

540
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Speaker 4: too big to them. They've already been doing this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this Jaguars team, you know, I put it there

542
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Speaker 3: with ninety nine in terms of going into the postseason

543
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Speaker 3: as ready and as capable of winning it as any

544
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Speaker 3: I've seen, just mainly because of what you just said.

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Speaker 7: Eight straight games, Remember how it started.

546
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Speaker 3: Every looks back on that thirty five to six over

547
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Speaker 3: the Chargers and things, Oh why they beat the chart.

548
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Speaker 3: They were five and four at that point and playing

549
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Speaker 3: the Chargers, who I thought, you know, could really I

550
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Speaker 3: was not thinking that was a w I had to

551
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Speaker 3: win that one. And you know, every game has been

552
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Speaker 3: a test of some sort.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 3: They're ready, they're relatively healthy, they're playing well, and they

555
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Speaker 3: have an elite quarterback.

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Speaker 7: This team has a chance.

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Speaker 2: Sure do stay with us here on jag Zam. I'll

558
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Speaker 2: tell you what's coming up the rest of the week.

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Speaker 2: It's nicer here.

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Speaker 6: All my high school buddies text me and they all

566
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Speaker 6: reach out to him too and stuff, And you know,

567
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Speaker 6: I think it's kind of cool that we have the

568
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Speaker 6: same you know, I that I kind of took that on.

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Speaker 6: It was the same exact you.

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Speaker 5: Know deal he did.

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Speaker 6: We were pretty good when I was when I was playing,

572
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Speaker 6: so we said it a lot. But he's been doing that.

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Speaker 6: He was doing that, I think since since college and

574
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Speaker 6: when he came to coach me in high school he

575
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Speaker 6: did the same thing. So kind of took that one on.

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Speaker 1: In Koon taking a little bit about his how's that

577
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Speaker 1: feel post game? Came from his dad coaching in high

578
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Speaker 1: school and Salan Province. They did win all the games,

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Speaker 1: so that makes sense. But it's a pretty cool tradition

580
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Speaker 1: for him to take on. And his dad's here all

581
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Speaker 1: the time. You see him out of praxfield.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting because he said that his dad always came

583
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Speaker 4: in swinging up and he comes in swinging down.

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Speaker 5: So he's put his own spin on it.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Hopefully no one gets injured and we'll be all set.

586
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Speaker 5: So far, so good.

587
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Speaker 2: Here are you guys talking to this week?

588
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Speaker 1: What are you looking forward to or kind of figuring

589
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Speaker 1: out as they get ready for the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: I've talked to most of the assistant coaches this year.

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Speaker 4: I'm hoping to connect with Shane Waldron, longtime associate, an

592
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Speaker 4: ally confidant of the head coach, and.

593
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Speaker 5: Talk to him.

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Speaker 4: He's one of those guys that also does a lot

595
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Speaker 4: with time management and strategy and the Jaguars have he's

596
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Speaker 4: the guy and Lamb's ear, Yeah, they have been.

597
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Speaker 5: He has been excellent. They have been excellent at that

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Speaker 5: this year.

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Speaker 4: So just he's not going to give me any of

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Speaker 4: the insight, but the insight about how you prepare for

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Speaker 4: an opponent.

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Speaker 3: I think it'd be fascinating. Hoping to connect with him.

603
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Speaker 3: I'm talking to Jian Jones. I'm fun know on the

604
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: ozone podcast. I probably should have done it multiple times

605
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 3: this season, but he's a terrific story. Was out of

606
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Speaker 3: the lineup early and has had to persevere and he's

607
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Speaker 3: now come back and he's playing about as high level

608
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Speaker 3: as they have in the secondary. He's one of those

609
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Speaker 3: stories we talked about of guys who there's five or

610
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Speaker 3: six guys in this team he didn't think anything about

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Speaker 3: in week two.

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Speaker 7: They wouldn't be.

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Speaker 3: Here without guys like this, and uh plus he's a

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Speaker 3: lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Is he gonna bring you a grill? Though?

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Speaker 7: I'm sure that'll be part of it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I hope.

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Speaker 5: So I want that story behind what it took to

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Speaker 5: get that done.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Marissa was involved in that a

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Speaker 1: little bit for Trevor's So.

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Speaker 5: That's my favorite piece of video for the whole year.

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Speaker 4: I just love the way that those players react to

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Speaker 4: Trevor and you can just see the love in that room.

625
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Speaker 4: And this time of year, you've got to have that

626
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Speaker 4: level of connectedness and not everyone does.

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Speaker 2: That's the most relaxed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, not that Trevor is ever uptight, but he's

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Speaker 1: never been more chill and relaxed than he is right

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Speaker 1: now playing go football.

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Speaker 2: It's the perfect time on JACKXAM.

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Speaker 1: We will be back here tomorrow to dive into that

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Speaker 1: Bills matchup even more as we get ready for wildcard weekend.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you then,