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Speaker 1: What's that at bed? It's spooky? Hey, juky, I'm really

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Speaker 1: I said, days please, Hey boo, it's me Raz and

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Ghosted by Raz Hernandos, the podcast where I

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Speaker 1: like to talk to people that I like about things

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Speaker 1: eat chewable Melatonins like their gumdrop. I get to talk

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Speaker 1: to you a hilarious comedian named Megan Gaily today. But

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Speaker 1: before we get to that, I was looking through my

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Speaker 1: email ghosted by Ras at gmail dot com and I

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Speaker 1: found a story from Victoria Victoria Rights. So for context

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Speaker 1: and a backstory. I grew up in a wickan slash

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Speaker 1: pagan household, which means, for those who aren't familiar, my

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Speaker 1: family practiced witchcraft, and it wasn't always white magic. They practiced.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, okay, what was that. I just

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Speaker 1: turned into the kool aid Man's transistor for a second.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, they didn't always practice white magic. Not

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Speaker 1: my thing, but I'd love to hear about it. Many

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Speaker 1: years later, I found out that all the paranormal experiences

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Speaker 1: the magic attracting negative spirits. So at the time this

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Speaker 1: parents forbid me from practicing or doing anything spiritual unless

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Speaker 1: it was with them, because they said I wasn't mature

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Speaker 1: me the stubborn tourists, I couldn't help but want to

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Speaker 1: get involved. My friends knew my parents practiced witchcraft and

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Speaker 1: spoke to spirits, and they thought it was cool in

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Speaker 1: a spooky way. So I had a few friends sleep

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Speaker 1: over one night and we decided to sneak into my parents'

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Speaker 1: craft room and borrow their Wigi board. Also backstory on

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Speaker 1: the board, my parents talked about how the board had

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Speaker 1: a spirit attached to it that was a joker and

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Speaker 1: wanted to cause mischief. I love this gossiping Wigi board

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Speaker 1: to start and shit. Okay, So anyways, me and my

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Speaker 1: ghost told us our death was near. As you can imagine,

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Speaker 1: we were very disappointed. Well, my parents caught us using

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Speaker 1: and that the spirit attached to the board wasn't a

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Speaker 1: My friends were sent home and I was sent to bed.

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Speaker 1: That night. I went to sleep and I was awoken

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Speaker 1: what you would expect as a stereotypical ghost like the

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Speaker 1: sound if that makes sense, Oh it does. I thought

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Speaker 1: But eventually my mom came charging through the door. She

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Speaker 1: I explained to my parents what I saw, and they

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Speaker 1: That is interesting. I love that your parents are like,

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Speaker 1: what I would do. I would whooo, look at me.

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. Thank you for sending me that. You know what,

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Speaker 1: All last month I was talking about the TV show

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Speaker 1: I'm on Living for the Dud on Hulu, and I

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Speaker 1: This one's from Abigail. Abigail also emailed this to me.

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Speaker 1: Abigail says, after graduating high school, my brothers and I

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Speaker 1: in Meek No's Okay Lindsay Lohan, about to hop on

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Speaker 1: Fortunately I was wrong, as we were escorted to our table.

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Speaker 1: This is not the restaurant now, I noticed a woman

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Speaker 1: doing absolutely nothing else came together. Could it have been

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Speaker 1: in true baby of the family fashion, I brought this

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Speaker 1: I'm going to need you to stop messing with me,

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Speaker 1: because I had a dream two nights ago that our

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Speaker 1: to her about everything that has happened since she died.

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Speaker 1: My back was turned during dinner, so I didn't know

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Speaker 1: I wonder in these scenarios, like do you think everyone

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Speaker 1: a table or whatever in this restaurant, don't you think

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Speaker 1: a server would be like, ma'am, you have to order something, ma'am,

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Speaker 1: have to leave. I'm sorry. Miss. Also, if she's like

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Speaker 1: be knocking into her? Like I have so many questions.

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Speaker 1: But either way, I'm obsessed with this story. I love

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Speaker 1: a Granny ghost and I appreciate you sending this to me,

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Speaker 1: so thank you. Abby. Okay, it's time to talk to

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Speaker 1: a comedian that I absolutely adore. She's got a last

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Speaker 1: Megan Gaily on with the show. Oh my God, Hi Megan,

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Speaker 1: how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm good? How are you?

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Speaker 1: I am so good. I was just thinking about I

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Speaker 1: know you have this podcast with two of the nicest

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Speaker 1: It's called I Love My Kid, But and I was

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Speaker 1: just talking to Time out for name dropping Patton Oswald

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Speaker 1: about how one of the biggest reasons I don't want

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Speaker 1: have to deal with their imaginary friends. Ooh yeah, checking

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Speaker 1: under their bed for monsters. I mean, how do you

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Speaker 2: I mean, kids inherently are just kind of creepy, and

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Speaker 2: that maybe because they're they're used so often in horror

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Speaker 2: just like, Mammy, why is it that, like it's so scary.

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Speaker 2: We thought our son, My husband is convinced there's a

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Speaker 2: to whoever they are. Our son is a baby still,

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Speaker 2: What a weird thing. And then my friend was over

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Speaker 2: and she was like, that's not what's going on, and

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Speaker 2: so I like pulled up the camera to be like, no,

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Speaker 2: look he's banging his head and he was sound asleep

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Speaker 1: No mm hmm, Okay, that's really scary. I mean, not

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Speaker 1: to scare you, but what makes you think that somebody

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Speaker 2: We are friends with everyone on the street now, and

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of people who have been on this

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Speaker 2: third generation called a sac members, and they always kind

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Speaker 2: But I do believe they were really old, okay, And

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Speaker 2: I think, like white people were sort of notorious for

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Speaker 2: you know? So I'm piecing all this together kind of

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Speaker 2: it was a family. I don't know, like it's always

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Speaker 2: sort of framed very past tense because it is, but

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Speaker 2: I'm also getting died in the house past tense.

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Speaker 1: So you obviously haven't looked into the records or now

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Speaker 1: gone to the point of bringing a psychic in or anything. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now would you?

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Speaker 2: I would if it became an issue. For sure, All

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Speaker 2: this land used to be horse farming and or like

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Speaker 2: its so embarrassed that I but it was like farm

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Speaker 1: And statistically speaking, if ninety women can live there and

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Speaker 1: God, so interesting. I had no clue that so many

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Speaker 1: a little extraw minimum. You gotta ensure that the curse

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00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: is solid. So, as the story goes, the curse was

434
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: then reversed and put back onto the Australian because the

435
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: shaman was like, bitch, better have my money. Good And

436
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: it said that from the moment that he put the

437
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: curse on, everything went wrong for the team. The soccerus

438
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: qualified for just one World Cup over the next thirty

439
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: two years and suffered a series of devastating losses. And

440
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: then in the two thousands there was a guy, a

441
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: TV personality that reversed the curse by being joined by

442
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 1: two shamans. And I guess after he reversed the curse,

443
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: they went back to winning.

444
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, I think all professional teams have a

445
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 2: chaplain or like have a priest that's on staff, like

446
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 2: praise with them or like, you know, these men can't

447
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: just like go to regular therapy, so they need to

448
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: go talk to a priest who's truly never had sex

449
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: with a woman or had millions of dollars. But it's like, yep,

450
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 2: this is who we seek advice from. So I wonder

451
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: if any I wonder if like a team wanted to

452
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: bring in someone of the spiritual realm and a chaplain

453
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: was like, no, I'm shutting that down. Yeah, I could

454
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: see that.

455
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: I could absolutely see that. But it's also like a

456
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: karma thing. I feel like with that story where it's

457
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: like me personally, I don't think that you should like

458
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: wish bad on people like I think.

459
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 2: That's nice of you.

460
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: I could see karmically where it could come back at you. Yeah,

461
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: because you tried to pay someone to basically sort of

462
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: harm somebody else.

463
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm a huge believer in karma, and you know

464
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: the golden rule, do unto others as you want done

465
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: to you. I would say one thing that's really kind

466
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: of shook my belief system in karma is being in

467
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: show business. You do see some terrible people with great lives.

468
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: Oh there's no rhyme or reason.

469
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 2: And you go, maybe cream doesn't always rise.

470
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: There's this other curse that I thought was kind of

471
00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: funny in the absurdity of it. The Madden video game.

472
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yep, yep, yepm is this one that they

473
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: talk about in the sports community.

474
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So Madden is the NFL video game and

475
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 2: it's sort of regarded as I'm not a gamer, but

476
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: people love it and it's got great graph backs blah

477
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. And there is a massive curse

478
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: that once a player has been on the cover, and

479
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: they're not just throwing like random players on the cover,

480
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 2: it's usually whoever the best player was the year before,

481
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: or someone who's like really on the rise. I mean

482
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: it's a star. They're putting stars on the cover. They

483
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: go on to have a terrible season or suffer a

484
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: brutal injury, and so it's gotten to the point where

485
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: they will show like the Madden cover will be released

486
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: and it'll be Josh Allen, the Bills quarterback, and Bill's

487
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: fans are like, get him up the cover, like it's

488
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: an honor that no one wants.

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00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it says that since nineteen ninety eight when

490
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: the first player was on it, who was this Garrison Hurst,

491
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't know that is well because he was on

492
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: it and then he suffered a gruesome ankle injury in

493
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: a playoff game, and that was the first of a

494
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: series of injuries and poor seasons that seemed to strike

495
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: players appearing on the cover. It says sixteen to twenty two.

496
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: Players selected to appear on the cover through twenty twenty

497
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: one subsequently suffered terrible or shortened seasons, according to history

498
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: dot com. Here. And then there was this fella, Ladanian Tomlinson. Yes, yeah,

499
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: he turned down the cover Yes, in two thousand and eight,

500
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: and he was replaced by quarterback Vince Young of the

501
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, and he endured a quadriceps injury and through

502
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: nearly twice as many interceptions as touchdowns and was.

503
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: Like kind of never the same Ladanian Tomlinson was running back.

504
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: I used to work at the NFL on game days.

505
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: We would have really good food in the green room,

506
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: and once he stared at me while I cleared all

507
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: of the meat off of the chicken wing. Oh that's

508
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: a fun fact about him.

509
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Can I show you a haunted eBay doll?

510
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: Yes? Please?

511
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: All right, it's time for a segment I like to

512
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: call the dolls are Living. So here's what I do.

513
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: I go to eBay or anywhere on the internet where fine,

514
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: very real objects are sold, and I find a haunted doll.

515
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a look. And the great news about

516
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: these dolls is that they usually come with their own backstory.

517
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: So I would like for you to meet Tabitha.

518
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, like reaction one is not an attractive doll.

519
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: Tabitha is a baby with a bonnet on. I'm convinced

520
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: that she's like a grown man like criminal that's like

521
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: posing as a baby with like a fake body. And

522
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: it's just like his head is in the baby where

523
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: the head should be.

524
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 2: Like usually dolls, even if they're creepy, you're like, oh,

525
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: the features are cute, and it's like this nose is bad.

526
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: She's like she's got zero lips, Like it's just like

527
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: a line. Yeah. Her lashes look like a girl who's

528
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: like on Bachelor in Paradise and on like week two

529
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: of the lash extension, and like the ocean has ripped

530
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 2: a lot of them out. Oh yeah, she's got rockabilly eyebrows.

531
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: Like it's not it's not a cute doll.

532
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, this poor thing. And I mean maybe that's a

533
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: reason to buy her. Maybe that's why she's so scary

534
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: and haunted is because what she really needs is a makeover.

535
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: She also looks like a bitch. She has resting baby

536
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: bitch face.

537
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: She does not look friendly at all, so she's currently

538
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: going for twenty dollars, so she's a discount diva thirty

539
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: one dollars. You could buy it now. She has zero

540
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: bids on her. If you can believe her, no one's

541
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: sad for her. Well, let me read you what it

542
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: says about Tabitha. It says Tabitha, the haunted doll, is

543
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: an eerie and enigmatic presence that sends shivers down the

544
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: spines of those who encounter her. With her porcelain complexion

545
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: and once playful demeanor, she now exudes a chilling aura

546
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: that lingers in the air. Tabitha's eyes, once bright and sparkling,

547
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: now hold an unsettling gaze that seems to follow your

548
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: every move. Legends surround Tabitha with whispered tales of her

549
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: mysterious origins and the dark energy that surrounds her. It

550
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: is said that she was once a cherished companion, but

551
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: a tragic event imbued her with a malevolent spirit. Now

552
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: she inhabits a realm between the living and the supernatural,

553
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: haunting her surroundings with unexplained phenomena. It keeps going and

554
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: going with Basically.

555
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: Someone wrote this on eBay. All of it this must

556
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: be a striking writer. They're like, listen, my screenplay is

557
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: dead because it's kind of the tale and a little

558
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: bit of the look of that villain doll from one

559
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: of the toy stories.

560
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: Yes, this is a Pixar script that wasn't bought right.

561
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: The stories of Tabitha are cautionary tales warning one sheet.

562
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: This is totally a little pitch deck warning against the

563
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: dangers of tampering with the unknown. Some believe that those

564
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: who possess her are cursed, forever, bound to her haunting influence.

565
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: Well, of course there's no bids saying if you buy

566
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: your curves.

567
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: I don't understand. That's why to me it would be

568
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: less ethical. But I would be like, she's great, she's

569
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: not haunted. She's just like she's an antique worth a lot,

570
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: and we'll just we just want to sell her for

571
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: a dollar just because we feel.

572
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I'd say she was like the Lindenberg baby.

573
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 2: You know, I'm like, oh, yeah, we like to picked

574
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: it this after a famous pa You know what, I

575
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 2: just remember what I saw a black cat this morning.

576
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: Well, you said you are superstitious, Well you are with sports.

577
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: It didn't cross my path because that's the really bad.

578
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: But a black cat has crossed my path in the

579
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 2: last six months and I was not pleased.

580
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: Are you superstitious just in life?

581
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

582
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: Character share.

583
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 2: I always knock on wood. When I spill the salt,

584
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: it goes over the shoulder, you know, sort of like

585
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: the the quirks. Yeah.

586
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: Do you have anything like that that you do before

587
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: you perform, like.

588
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: A glass of wine? Not really, because I try and

589
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: be like I would stand up. I try and be

590
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: like I am in control. Yeah, you know, like I

591
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 2: cannot leave this up to the gods because they may

592
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 2: be unkind to me.

593
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: Or you know, they might not. I like that joke, right, John.

594
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: Rivers may smile down and say no, not today, bitch.

595
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: Can I play you some ghost voices?

596
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: Please?

597
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: It's time for EVP or ev please. What I do?

598
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: I go to YouTube TikTok wherever I find electronic voice

599
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: phenomenon EVPs. These are alleged ghost voices that people believe

600
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: they've captured a ghost saying something. And I got two

601
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: of them here for you, and I want you to

602
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: tell me what you're hearing this ghost say. So. This

603
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: first one is from Donna Boyle medium on YouTube. Okay, so,

604
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that Donna Boyle speaks to the dead, and

605
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: what is this dead person saying back to Donna Boyle? Oh,

606
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: it's real quick? Could you hear that?

607
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: Uh huh?

608
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: Okay, we played again? A worse?

609
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: I mean it could be I wish we had like

610
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: the CSI technology to like slow it down, because it

611
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 2: could be like up here, it could also be someone's name.

612
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: It could also just be Donna Boyle playing a trick

613
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 2: on us.

614
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: A well, here's some options. Hey, I'm horny, b uncle Harry,

615
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: see I'm worried or d it's just don A Boil

616
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: playing a trick on us?

617
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 2: Can I hear it one more time?

618
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: Yes?

619
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: A worse I mean I'm horny is the thing. It

620
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 2: sounds the most like.

621
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: She believes it's uncle Harry.

622
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: A worse like okay, a worse Okay doing that? Okay, girl,

623
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: do you have an uncle Harry? Like? Who is Uncle Harry?

624
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: I kind of hear it. Wait, okay, now that we

625
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: know that, here we go, let's tune in.

626
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: A worse of course, of course. But it's sort of

627
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: like when you're Ouiji boarding and you're like, it's spelled

628
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: hold out my birthday. It's like you know, are we

629
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: leading it or are we being led?

630
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: Right right? Well, that's why I like to not have

631
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: too much context and just try to listen and see

632
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: if we can hear it without you know, the options first,

633
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: Like that wouldn't be fun, right, Okay, So let's see

634
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: this next one. This one is from Manny Patsy eighty

635
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: two ninety three. What is this one saying? This is

636
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: more of a.

637
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: Whisper Jesus, Jesus, Jesus or Jeesus.

638
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: Definitely chees its.

639
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: I mean now I am hearing Jesus Jesus?

640
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: Is it a who is this? B? Give me a kiss?

641
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: See sorry? Sis? Or d girl? I'm pissed.

642
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: Okay, one more time, all right, I think it's Jesus.

643
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: They believe it is. Who is this?

644
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: No, I hear a jay, I hear a j sound.

645
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: It could be Jesus. The video is a cute little girl,

646
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: maybe this person's daughter or something, just like sitting in

647
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: a chair and then you just hear like a voice

648
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: say that whisper it right by the camera, and they

649
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: believe it is who is this? Okay, let's do one

650
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: last thing, Megan Gale, Okay, I'm just gonna list off

651
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: some unexplained phenomenal and I want you to tell me

652
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: if you believe in it, if you have a story

653
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: about it, just anything that comes to mind. Okay, great, Okay,

654
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: you grew up Catholic. What do you think of demons?

655
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: Do you believe in that sort of a thing still?

656
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: Or currently?

657
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: The world is filled with so many demons that I

658
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: find it hard to believe there's like a spirit worse

659
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: than Ted Cruz. So it's like, yes, I believe in demons,

660
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: but I believe they walk amongst us and most of

661
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: them are in Congress.

662
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: Okay, but you don't think that there's like a supernatural

663
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: thing that could possess a human.

664
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 2: Or oh yes, oh yes, I do believe that, but

665
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: like you know, like Resputant, Like I fully think Resputant

666
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: was doing some crazy stuff, but like I don't know

667
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: this concept of like we go down into hell. That's

668
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: murky for me. But I absolutely believe in demons, but

669
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: I think I think demons are.

670
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: With us quiet. What about psychics?

671
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: Yes, totally?

672
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: Have you been?

673
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love a psychic?

674
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: How does that go for you? Have you had like

675
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: accurate readings?

676
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: I have? I've also had ones that like are probably

677
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: not that accurate, but vague enough that I'm like, yes,

678
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: that works. I also went to a woman who was

679
00:39:54,680 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 2: fully nuts and really expensive, so it's like I've the gamut.

680
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 2: But once I was like on kind of a I

681
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: went to visit a guy in New Orleans and we

682
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: stopped at a psychic and we were dating, and I

683
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: was asking her about, like, you know, romance stuff, and

684
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 2: I was like, is this the guy? And she was like,

685
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: oh no, and she was right. So I do believe

686
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: in them.

687
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: Oh guy, Sometimes the best ones you can find are

688
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: just like a fifteen dollars for fifteen minutes or whatever. Yeah,

689
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean, who's to say was super expensive means that

690
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: you're more accurate every time. I don't know, I'm into it.

691
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: I've literally been to over one hundred psychics in my life. Wow,

692
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: I love them. Yeah.

693
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 2: A lot of real housewives have like their go to,

694
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: like they're like, this is my gal. They've had them

695
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 2: on the show, and that's really fascinating when you get

696
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 2: enough money to be like I have an like an

697
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: in house psychic.

698
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: And I want that, And in some ways I feel

699
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: like I kind of have that because I've been to

700
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: certain psychics so many time that I'm like, that's my psychic,

701
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: But are you a Beverly Hills person?

702
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:05,479
Speaker 2: Yes?

703
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so yes, that iconic scene from early Alison Dubois,

704
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: the e cigarette smoking psychic that predicted that Kyle Richards

705
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: would never be emotionally fulfilled by her husband Marie Theo

706
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: true and people were like, there's no way they are

707
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: the Hollywood it couple. When it comes to these housewives,

708
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: they're the ones that will make it to the end

709
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 1: and then they just split up. And how people are

710
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: like Alison du Blas was.

711
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 2: Right, and apparently the show Medium was based on Alison Duglas.

712
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: Right, and that must be really tough for her to

713
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 1: sit there and deal with people. I mean, she also

714
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: seemed awful in that episode.

715
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie, she's really leaning into like this

716
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 2: moment again and it's like you predicted a couple in LA.

717
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: Wasn't happy you did it all in there, Dubo. But

718
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: I love that she has like a French name and

719
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: is fully just a regular sounding bitch from Kansas City.

720
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: Du wah. So what do you think about Bigfoot real?

721
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 1: I think, so, why would you say that, because like.

722
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem that out of the ordinary or that

723
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: far fetched, that there is some sort of animal that

724
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 2: we just can't spot or identify. Like the world is

725
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: just so big that I'm sure Bigfoot could elude us. Now,

726
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: do I care about Bigfoot? No, But like if you

727
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: brought me a photo and we're like, oh this, you know,

728
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: drunk guy was hunting and found bigfoot, I'd go, yeah,

729
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: I believe it.

730
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: You know what's so funny is you saying that is

731
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: something that I have been saying a lot about so

732
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: many things the past few years. Yeah, more and more

733
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: pressing serious issues have come up in life where I'm like,

734
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: that is not something that I care about or don't

735
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: care about. It doesn't really like I What it comes

736
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: down to is certain things I'm like, I just don't care.

737
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: Like someone else could deal with that. Yes, I got

738
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: other things I'm looking for right now, and it's not

739
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: including Bigfoot. Go off and do that.

740
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 2: Everybody needs a cause Bigfoot is not mine exactly. I

741
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 2: also think that, like the last few years have shown

742
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: us that like anything can happen, you know, like yeah,

743
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: mostly for bad. Also if we're good in some ways,

744
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: my whole body ripped open and a baby came like

745
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: I grew a baby and then he came out of me,

746
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: and that's less crazier than Bigfoot.

747
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah what about UFOs?

748
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah, mm hmm. You know, some people think

749
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 2: that they have been abducted by aliens, but what they

750
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 2: actually are remembering is their birth. Really, I don't know.

751
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: Someone told me that, and I think it was my nanny.

752
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: I think my nanny told me that. And I was like, yes,

753
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 2: I think you fo's for sure.

754
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: So if you currently you could take your child, you

755
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: could take your husband. And they came down and they're like, listen,

756
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: it's better where we're at. Trust us. Would you go No, okay, I.

757
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: Would go visit. You know. I do a walk through

758
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: like it's a school, right, I want to meet some residents.

759
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: I'm not just blindly taking my whole I'm like, listen,

760
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: I just brought property here. Also, I'm thirty seven, like

761
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: I've already lived a lot of places. I don't know

762
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: that it can start a new life in a new

763
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: galaxy exactly. I'm a Midwesterner in LA like that already

764
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: fields like I'm an alien. So yeah, Also, space seems

765
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: douchey right now. It's really only the billionaires that have

766
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: gone that. I'm like, I would almost like see who's

767
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: going too and go that's my crew, or I'm happy

768
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: right here exactly.

769
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: So what about past lives? Last? Do you believe in

770
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: past lives?

771
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: One thousand percent?

772
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: Really?

773
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: Yes? I used to believe and now I've you know,

774
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: sort of softened on it. That I died on an

775
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 2: escalator in a past.

776
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: Life because you're scared of them or what?

777
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, because I was really scared of them.

778
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: That's me.

779
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 2: With snakes, well, snakes are terrifying.

780
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: I think I was eaten alive by a snake or something,

781
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: or bitten by one or something because I'm so deathly

782
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: afraid of snakes.

783
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 2: Wow, I absolutely believe in in past lives. I'd also

784
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: like to throw in I believe in the loch Ness Monster.

785
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: Oh okay, why sort of Bigfooty again. If we've learned

786
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: anything about the ocean in the last bit, she's a

787
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: bit like she's so big. I think that the animals,

788
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 2: especially the aquatic animals, might be what ends us, because

789
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: the whales are justifiably pissed and the ocean is just

790
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: so vast and so oh crazy. We know less about

791
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: the ocean than we know about the space. I think

792
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: there's a lot of deep, dark corners and things happening

793
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: in the ocean that we have no idea about.

794
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, which could be aliens.

795
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: Interesting.

796
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: People always think that aliens are coming from above. Wow,

797
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: I think that they could be in the ocean. And

798
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: there are certain places, even like Lake Michigan, people believe

799
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: that they see lights underneath the water. One of my

800
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: mom's friends say, is she's seen it. According to my mom,

801
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: she's seen lights underneath as if there's something going on

802
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: down there.

803
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: Well and goes definitely to live in water. One of

804
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: my favorite movies is What Lies Beneath Oh my god,

805
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: you know the ghosts are in the water. Definitely.

806
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: That is so scary to think about. Yeah, when you

807
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: think about you know, people die in the water, yep,

808
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: and you could encounter them. You could be in the

809
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 1: ocean and someone could grab your foot.

810
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 2: I grew up on a lake and the lake it

811
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: was the reservoir. Actually, the reservoir used to be a town,

812
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: and the legend is one day they said everybody get

813
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: out of the town, and then they flooded the town

814
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: and made it a reservoir.

815
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: Wait, is it like a famous haunted place because there

816
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: is one like that. No, No, I.

817
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: Don't think so. Okay, but when the water got low

818
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: enough you could see a church steeple. That's what we

819
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: always said.

820
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: I have heard about something like this. I wonder if

821
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: that's the one I've heard about that's terrifying. Yeah, before

822
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: we leave, is there any last ghost related spooky stories

823
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: you have?

824
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: I would just like to say that I am a

825
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: friend of ghosts and that I am not mad at

826
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: any of you. I hope you're not mad at me.

827
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: If you need to be around me, I hope you

828
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 2: come in peace, because I come in peace to you.

829
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: That is so sweet, because for some reason, a lot

830
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: of people aren't that way, and I get it because

831
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: they're scary.

832
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

833
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: So I think that people have a lot of different

834
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: reactions to being terrified. Some of them, you know, yell

835
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: or call them names or whatever. And I think that, yeah,

836
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: if you tell them like I'm not going to hurt you,

837
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: then it should be fine. But yeah, I have been

838
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: known a time or two to be like, listen, if

839
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: there's anyone here and you're trying to scare me, I

840
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: have a whole drawer of shit I could light that

841
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: would smoke you out and you'd never come back, So

842
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: enjoy it. Be nice here. If you want to stay

843
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: a ghost, be nice.

844
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: Well. I mean I have never threatened them, but now

845
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: that I have a child, I may come too. I

846
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 2: also think like salt works. I'm sure it doesn't, but

847
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 2: when in doubt, I'll just make a circle of salt

848
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: to around myself.

849
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: There you go, Hey, where can people find you? What

850
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: do you got going on?

851
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 2: I would love for people to listen to the podcast

852
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: you mentioned at the top. I love my kid, but

853
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: zero advice parenting podcast. We mostly have blacks and talk

854
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: shit about how hard it is to be a parent.

855
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: And then I have a sports podcast called Meghan Fun

856
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: of Sports and I'm going to be on the road

857
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: this fall, so you can follow me at Better Megan

858
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: Gaily on Instagram and I will have all of those

859
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 2: dates and ticket links.

860
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: Amazing. Thanks so much for doing this.

861
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank.

862
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: You so much to Megan Gaily. Oh that was fun.

863
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: Oh I've missed talking to comedians. Guys. I love you

864
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: so much. Thanks for listening and doing all those things,

865
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 1: seeing me live and following me and watching the TV

866
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: show I'm on. You guys have been so supportive and

867
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Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if

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Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Okay,

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Speaker 1: by this has been an exactly right product. Want to

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Speaker 1: out loud and sometimes I'll even call you, so email

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Speaker 1: me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. You

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Speaker 1: you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram at roz

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Speaker 1: Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez.

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Speaker 1: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer

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Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

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Speaker 1: sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker

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Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the

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Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by

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Speaker 1: the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky

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Speaker 1: Vanessa a Lilac photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive

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Speaker 1: produced by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the spookky Georgia Hard Start,

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Speaker 1: and the frightening Danielle Kramer