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Speaker 1: the NFL. I'm Dan Kansas Heroes to my left, Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal and Mark Sessler. Oh yeah, what's up? Boys? Heroes

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't see you're you with a huge circle, Greg, Like, buddy,

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Speaker 1: Let's hear from a voice that's very near and dear

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Speaker 1: Stafford with with Sean McVeigh from the archives of around

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Speaker 1: the NFL. It's the legend Chris Westling And that was

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Speaker 1: dated September six, two thousand nineteen, Week one preview, Uh,

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Speaker 1: In other news, the cults, you know, there is a

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Speaker 1: cycle now. Maybe maybe he came up with this plot

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Speaker 1: to begin with. Finally in the news. This happened early

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Speaker 1: in the holiday weekend. But um, we got a lot

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Speaker 1: of people that wanted our reactions, so let's listen to

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Speaker 1: uh And I know we have a guy built rodal World,

431
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Speaker 1: brick by Brick, I myself and my former NFL fantasy

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Speaker 1: commissioner for well over a decade. So here's uh, Giants

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Speaker 1: outfielder Jack Peterson discussing what happened with Tommy fam A.

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Speaker 1: I guess he's a Red he's a Cincinnati read Tommy fan.

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Speaker 1: They were in a fantasy league together that involved multiple

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Speaker 1: major league players, and Tommy Fan before the game approach

437
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: Jack Peterson and slapped him in the face Will Smith style. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And it was about a fantasy football rules dispute. Jack Peterson,

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Speaker 1: when approached by the media for the story, did not

440
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Speaker 1: spare any detail. Hit it just in a fantasy fantasy

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Speaker 1: league together. Can pause it for one second. I want

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Speaker 1: you Greg as a brick by Brick guy, to try

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Speaker 1: to really kind of let's parse his words and tell

444
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Speaker 1: me who you think you get to the bottom of this. Okay.

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00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: I put somebody a player on the andrew reserved when

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00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 1: they were listed as out, and um added another player. Uh.

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00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 1: And then um uh there's a up message in the

448
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Speaker 1: group saying that I was cheating because I was stashing

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Speaker 1: players on my bench. And then uh, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I looked up the rules and send a screenshot out

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Speaker 1: the rules out It says that when the players ruled out,

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Speaker 1: you're allowed to put him on the I R. And uh,

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Speaker 1: that's all I was doing. And then, uh, it just

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Speaker 1: so happened that he had a player, uh, Jeff Wilson,

455
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Speaker 1: who was out, and he had him on the I R.

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Speaker 1: And I said, he's around the reporters on your team, storyteller.

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Speaker 1: And then I guess he was in two leagues he

458
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Speaker 1: was on the iron one of them he wasn't, so

459
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: maybe that was a confusion. But on the US family

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Speaker 1: we were in, it was listens out. So it's like

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Speaker 1: it's it feels very similar to what I did. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And that was basically all of it. There's not much

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Speaker 1: more to it. Um okay, alright, Um. I'll give my

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Speaker 1: take first, Greg, then I want to hear yours and

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Speaker 1: market any thoughts you have the failure here. Well, first

466
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Speaker 1: of all, some lunatics slapping a guy in the face

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Speaker 1: in the outfield over fantasy football league. I also know

468
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Speaker 1: that though, because I was in a fantasy football league

469
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Speaker 1: in my twenties, like these guys are, and it's really

470
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of bad blood in fantasy leagues. When

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Speaker 1: you got a bunch of like twenty eight year old

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Speaker 1: guys that are way too much invested in it emotionally

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Speaker 1: and financially. Um. But the failures of the commissioner, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, greggy, because he um set an i R

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Speaker 1: rule that could be easily manipulated. You've got to set

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Speaker 1: this thing hard and fast. You could say, you only

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Speaker 1: go onto the I R unless you're actually on real

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Speaker 1: life I r UM. If you allow people to slide

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Speaker 1: and guys that are simply out, it invites issues exactly

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Speaker 1: like this. Well, I didn't even need to hear him

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Speaker 1: say anything. The guy who slaps another man for a

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Speaker 1: fantasy football crime in the outfield, you're I don't care

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Speaker 1: what happened, and then, oh, by the way, I hate

484
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Speaker 1: the other guy didn't do anything wrong. The rules are

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Speaker 1: the rules. That's totally typical of a fantasy league. That

486
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Speaker 1: you can put guys on I R if they're out.

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Speaker 1: That's not right, it's not. It's not a strange rule

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Speaker 1: at all. If the commissioner, if the system lets you

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Speaker 1: do it, you can do it. It's not even like

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Speaker 1: he was looking for some sort of loophole. He was

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Speaker 1: just playing the game. When he sent the screenshot of

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Speaker 1: how the league is being run and he didn't work.

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Speaker 1: And the other issue slapping alone is just like you,

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Speaker 1: you are admitting you're in the wrong, And how he

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Speaker 1: knew that he was never going to face each other

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Speaker 1: on the diamond at some point. How long does the

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Speaker 1: slapper in his mind say to himself when I go

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Speaker 1: visit when I go into this game situation January? I

499
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: mean Fantasy Football ended in January, Greg, So this sounds

500
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Speaker 1: like there has to be more to the story. But well,

501
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 1: there there's a gift involved where um, the Giants, Dodgers

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Speaker 1: and Padres. There was like a weight thrown in the

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Speaker 1: air and the Padres guy that's where fam was playing

504
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: for at the time, got crushed by the weight. So

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00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: there was some you know, making fun of the Padres

506
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: as well. But he also that guy, the slapper also

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Speaker 1: quit the league over that issue in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the season, which is the biggest no no you do.

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Speaker 1: You never quit a league in the middle of the

510
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Speaker 1: year unless something heinous went down. It sounds like the

511
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Speaker 1: slapper should be the slappy on some level because he's

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Speaker 1: quit the league. He's he's a hothead, he's probably so

513
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: that's the problem here, Like like, what is what are

514
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: we missing here? Oh? The guy Tommy Fans is a lunatic.

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Speaker 1: It's gotta big. Come on, all right, before we take

516
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: a break, It's time once again for it came from

517
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Speaker 1: the internet. All right, So here we go, Mark, you

518
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: love that old CBS pregame with Brent Musburger. Uh and

519
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Speaker 1: for a while in in the studio with him was

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Speaker 1: Brown's great Jim Brown. All right. Here is a excerpt

521
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Speaker 1: of a telecast that I believe was mid eighties, round

522
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Speaker 1: eighty four. So grave digger, let's listen it have It

523
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: amazes me that the big sacks in the league were

524
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Speaker 1: able to take as much punishment as they do. I

525
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: mean they get whacked coming up the middle of there.

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Speaker 1: What amazes me too, because well a lot of them

527
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Speaker 1: getting hurt now because I think the conditioning program is great. Yet,

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Speaker 1: as I said earlier, and I hate to say it,

529
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Speaker 1: there is a cocaine problem within the league. We cannot

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Speaker 1: play the influencial cocaine. What was that, Jim, There is

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Speaker 1: a cocaine problem within the league, and you cannot play

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00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: und influenzal cocaine. No, Jim Brown, probably not wrong. In

533
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Speaker 1: the early eighties. And it wasn't just an NFL problem.

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Speaker 1: You you look at the NBA, which was basically torn

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00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: apart by cocaine use the NFL, I'm sure it was

536
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: a thing MLB. You at Keith Hernandez and a try Society.

537
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: I was listening to an interview and they were talking.

538
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: It was like a director their like their parents would

539
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: just openly do cocat parties in front of kids back then.

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00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: But like the Brett Brent Musberger was like, oh uh,

541
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: this just took a different turn than I was expecting.

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00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: So I did a little like research Jim Brown, He's

543
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: he's a legendary player. His his off the field life

544
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: not always sterling, but he's a very fascinating individual. And

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00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: I have to say he is someone if you dig

546
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: into this period of his life the the eighties. He

547
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: was on the cover of Sports Illustrated on December twelfth,

548
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: three and a full Raiders uniform. Uh. He wanted to

549
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: come back at age forty seven, but he hadn't been signed.

550
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: But he just did his photo shoot wearing a Raiders

551
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: uniform and uh, he he had something he had He

552
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: had an issue with the modern game at that point.

553
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe he thought it had changed. Here's

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00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: a quote, uh, and it connects to the dialogue with Musburger.

555
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Speaker 1: Where are the heroes the gladiators? He's also asking, whatever

556
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: happened to you know who? Absolutely, we need more Jim Plunketts,

557
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: Ted Hendricks's, Lyle Alzado's, Jack Lambert's, John Riggins's. They are

558
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: throwbacks to the old old days. Today's heroes are insulated

559
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Speaker 1: by their money. They're more worried about their women and

560
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: their drugs. The lady Cocaine he's referring to, and the

561
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: ladies go together. Cocaine is the prettiest lady of them all.

562
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Speaker 1: Like he was on this like it was right right.

563
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean, well, you know he's part of I mean,

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Speaker 1: the most consistent thing in human history is there's always

565
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: someone telling you that it used to be better. People

566
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: used to be tougher, the world used to be better.

567
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: The generation before we're better people. That's like consistent. In

568
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: this case, Coke was part of it, right. It just

569
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: kind of interesting. He could not help but shoehorn into

570
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Speaker 1: every conversation was having about the modern football player. Um.

571
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: Also also, um, you should know that Frank o' harris

572
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: at that at that this time was trying to who

573
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: was very close to the NFL rushing record. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Jim Brown retired after nine seasons with the record. Uh.

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00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: So that's why he was planning to come out of

576
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: retirement because he thought it was a great injustice that

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Speaker 1: frank O Harris, a man that ran out of bounds,

578
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: uh and didn't take punishment whatever, break his record. So

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00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: he wanted to go back and distance the record, which

580
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: was broken anyway by Sweetness Walter. It was about two

581
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: years later that big back Kevin Mack was actually nailed

582
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Speaker 1: from cocaine. So you know, Jim Brown, Uh, right on

583
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: topic there. All right, Well that's uh, that's it for

584
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: It came from the internet, and we'll be right back.

585
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: All right, here we go, we're back again. Turn it

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Speaker 1: off right now, turn the volume off. At least give

587
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: us the download data, give us that metadata that we want.

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00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: We crave it. Uh, we're going to give you. We're

589
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: gonna give you everything you need to know. And these

590
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: were these were questions sent in from the listeners on Twitter. Uh.

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00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: These are questions, uh that we will get to pose

592
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: to one another. If you have one that's not from Twitter,

593
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: feel free to throw it out there. So, um, one

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00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: of our own making, of your own making. Why don't

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00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: you get it going? Mark, Why don't you ask me

596
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: a question? And again, if you do not want to

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Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen in two NFL season, turn it

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Speaker 1: off now, volume down this one, Um, I I'd be

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00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: interested to see what what you think about this? Is

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Speaker 1: there a quarterback that you could see getting benched before

601
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Speaker 1: Halloween that nobody is talking about? Not you know, someone

602
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: that's out there in the midst from the wilderness that

603
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: would shock us right now? There is, Yeah, there is

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Ah. He plays in the a f C. H.

605
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Speaker 1: He's connected to a team that people are very high on.

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Speaker 1: He's the first round pick with a journeyman behind him.

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00:33:55,240 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: And yet there's too much smoke, Ah, too much smoke.

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00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: His struggles will lead to a change that will make

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00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenhal very excited to a dunga Bloa will be

610
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Speaker 1: benched by Halloween. I could see that. So it's like

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00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: a Miss Cleo situation. You're just like wiping away the

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00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: cobwebs in a way. I don't I don't want to.

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Speaker 1: We do not Endora magic, We do not endorse the

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Speaker 1: dark Arts. Uh, we are not time travelers as far

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00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: as anyone knows. That's accurate, but we have done NFL

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00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: podcasts and with that comes a level of clarity that,

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Speaker 1: like Greg says, if you think hard enough into the abyss,

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00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: the answer presents itself. And that's what happened. And I see, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: two is not happy on the sideline. Wow, it's a

620
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Speaker 1: little spicy. You're really asking for two and on to

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Speaker 1: come after you? You have, You have put it out

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Speaker 1: there that TOA is not gonna make it until October.

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Speaker 1: He'll make it to October, but not to November as

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Speaker 1: the starting quarter as a human. Yes, I am almost

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Speaker 1: certain he will. Wait. Yes, he will also make it

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Speaker 1: ad that's very good. But Teddy Bridgewater is exactly the

627
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: level of backup that the head coach, who you know,

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Speaker 1: first year head coach who's seeing an offense maybe not

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Speaker 1: go how he wants it to go. Maybe two is

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Speaker 1: a little banged up to That's just that's what's happening.

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Speaker 1: She might not be a permanent benching, but I could

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Speaker 1: totally see new coach an owner that I don't think

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Speaker 1: it is totally sold on to A when they could

634
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Speaker 1: have had justin Herbert that if you have Teddy, you

635
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Speaker 1: want to give to a break if he gets into

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Speaker 1: one of his little too a slumps, and you could

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00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: come at me right now. And Alphenson was like, oh man,

638
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: he was talking about the other thing last week with

639
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: ownership and all the things behind the scenes. Uh, that's

640
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to do that. That was a question

641
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: presented to me. I didn't know what was coming. That

642
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: was the answer that came to me. First four games

643
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: home to New England at Baltimore, home to Buffalo, at Cincinnati.

644
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: To your point, seeing seeing the future, here Ta has

645
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: to play at a at a very high level to

646
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: help the Dolphins start off well, it eases up after that,

647
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: but if you get into ohen four or one in

648
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: three whole, I don't think it's been that controversial to

649
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: say this team might not have as much patience as

650
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: as they're going to be out there. Expectations are so

651
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: high now, especially with the Tyreek Hill acquisition. If he

652
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: doesn't get off to a typical Tyreek Hill start, who knows,

653
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: he might talk as well. There could be some bad

654
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: vibes there. So a lot of pressure on two to

655
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: come out of the gates fast. I will now turn

656
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: my attention to Greg. Let's say, look, and you know

657
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: what you need to do here, Greg, You're gonna tell

658
00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: people what's gonna happen. What well Baker Mayfield NFL season

659
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: look like. I'm looking at this, dig it, baby, Oh

660
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: that's so clear. It's so easy. He's starting week one

661
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: for the for the Carolina Panthers. It's so easy, so

662
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: that the clouds parted me. I don't have to go,

663
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: like go think about all this. It's like, oh, yeah, hey,

664
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: we're going into the season with Sam Darnald as our quarterback.

665
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: It's the most claire you know, it's I don't need

666
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: to be clairvoyant to see that. It's just um, it's

667
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: a manufactured joke that Matt Rule would feel comfortable going

668
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: into the future after almost getting fired because Sam Darneld

669
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: almost got him fired with no other option, and they're

670
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: playing this little game here that they don't have to

671
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, look at They don't have to pay Baker

672
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: Mayfield salary hopefully in their mind, and they're only gonna

673
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: pay a worship of it. And that's all fine. They're

674
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: in no hurry. I just see it. I just don't

675
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: see him sitting on the bench, and I actually think

676
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: under Matt Rule he would be a pretty good uh fit.

677
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: They would have to get the ball out of his

678
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: hand a little quicker, but it's a lot of short throws.

679
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: I think he can do it. He can very at

680
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: the very least represent what Teddy did a couple of

681
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: years ago, which which is all they might need for

682
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: a little upgrade at quarterback. I we'll tell you that

683
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: looking at this question, we're on the same party line

684
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: number one. What's juice here in the fact that he

685
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: goes to Carolina Matt Rules under fire Baker Mayfield. It

686
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: solves that position at least for this year, and they

687
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: play Cleveland in Week one. That is the set the

688
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 1: stepping stone to Baker Mayfield guiding the Panthers to nine

689
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: and eight, saving Matt Rule's job, and he wins Comeback

690
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: Player of the Year while the Browns don't make the players.

691
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: Something's coming to me. Ah. The Progressive ad campaign, Oh no,

692
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: who is the new spokesman, not Deshaun Watson. I think

693
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: that's the safe You're a seer, is what you are.

694
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: I bet they're in a tricky spot right now, Progressive

695
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: They're they're waiting they're just waiting for this to happen.

696
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: But I don't know, imagine, I have sympathy for Baker's

697
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: entire offseason, even though maybe he's a little knucklehead or

698
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: he talks too much, whatever, but like he uh, not

699
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: only has he been left out to dry by the Browns,

700
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 1: hung out to dry, the entire football world has said

701
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: we're not so hot on you either. And you've got

702
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: that progressive phone call that's just kind of you're waiting

703
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: for that one because they're probably not looking to do

704
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: business with a guy who's not really a starting quarterback

705
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: or a guy that's seen as a high octane NFL player.

706
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: So it's almost like that the last in dignity of

707
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: the phone call from the progressive higher ups. Counterpoint has

708
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: a nice guaranteed salary coming his way barring other issues,

709
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: and he made a lot of money off of commercials.

710
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: But my clairvoyance that I felt that I had might

711
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: have been a little off with the whole week one

712
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: idea that it would be tricky for him to get

713
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: in there win that job even before playing the Browns,

714
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: and might want to avoid that. But I just see him,

715
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: I see him in that uniform. I see it. It

716
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: all makes sense. All right, why don't you throw them

717
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: out there? Greg? Al right, Mark, I'll ask you a

718
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: question here, all right, which defense we'll be seen as

719
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: the league's most dominant in? Take us there? This is

720
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: not a tricky to me at all. Well you're not.

721
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: You're not using your brain to figure out what the

722
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: answer is. It came to me. It just came to me,

723
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: and it was a beautiful image. So presented itself. An

724
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: NFC squad that has gone through changes but remains a

725
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: team on defense that I think the stamp of who

726
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: they are is zero fear um, immense swagger. And it's

727
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. They've had some changes, you know,

728
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: some this, some faces have vanished, but some you get.

729
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: You have. You put Honey Badger, I think, who is

730
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: one of the best locker room presences in football into

731
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: the perfect spot. And I know the offense maybe hot

732
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: and cold next season we'll see Sean Payton not not

733
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: being there, but the defense has enough carryover. Marcus Davenport,

734
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: Cam Jordan's c G J Marshawn Lattimore. I love these guys.

735
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: So I just think the Saints is my answer, and

736
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: it's very clear to me. There was nothing else that

737
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: came in there. I saw a little vision for a

738
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: minute of the Rams, but I but I that's floated away. Well,

739
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: according to Football Outsiders, as were number three in defensive

740
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: d v O A, behind Dallas, Dallas and Buffalo and

741
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: just ahead of New England. And we're top two of

742
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: the year before too, so that is consistent. And yet, um,

743
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think another team in their division

744
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: was where I'd go. We just signed to keep but

745
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: he didn't go anywhere. Again, I thought we were experts,

746
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: and so after doing this show for so long that

747
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: that it's a little confusing. Look with the Saints defense

748
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: sometimes it's confusing to Dad, lets us know, it's just

749
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: it's just it's not this isn't your opinion. That wasn't

750
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: Mark's opinion. That was it came to him. Can I

751
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: have a different opinion though, or you know it's wrong though? Right,

752
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: Well that's a good point. Yeah, but you can opinions

753
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: the segment to debate, because what we have been given

754
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: are like, you know, a vision from then that's a

755
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: veteran who has done ten seasons with the shows. So

756
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 1: but if you want to share your opinion. That's incorrect. Please,

757
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: I love sharing incorrect opinions. I think the Bucks are

758
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: are the team I would watch out for. There. Well,

759
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: what does the Saints defense due to Tom Brady year

760
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: after year? It's a fair point. All right, let's do

761
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: another round. All right. I want to ask you this one.

762
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if I mentally I'm a little bit

763
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: I think this is a pressing question. I mean, I

764
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: this will test your abilities. The San Francisco Forts and

765
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: what is happening with their quarterback situation. Just take us

766
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: there and tell us what happens. That's the question. So

767
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: many one to know. Where are we by week one? Ah?

768
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: Why does it not hurt you? Guys? I see confusion.

769
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: I see arguments behind the scenes. I see phone call.

770
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: So many phone calls. M John Lynch, he wants to trade,

771
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: he wants to trade, says yes. No one says yes.

772
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: That's a phone calls. Land lines, so many land lines everywhere.

773
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: No one using wireless technology now, ah, speeding through training camp.

774
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: I see two figures. Okay, one is definitely Jimmy Garoppolo

775
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: and yes tray Lands mm hmm, Trey Lances finger looks okay?

776
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: Good Week one it's Tray Lance on the field, but

777
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: by week six it is the veteran Garoppolo who leads

778
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: the offense from San Francisco. Okay, I can't do another

779
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: one of those. It's taxing on you, I can say.

780
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: So that's it seems to really go like inside of

781
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: you in a way that it just doesn't with Mike

782
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: ever see Ghost. Yes, it's very exhausting. Yeah whoop, And

783
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: again we're not seers, were not fortune tellers. But when whoopee,

784
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: when it when she had to like go in and

785
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: see things. I mean, it kind of seems like we're

786
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: sears here when when whoop, when Whoopee was done, she

787
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: was fatigued afterwards. I think maybe that's potentially where this

788
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: is coming from, but I don't know. Not every seer

789
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: goes through the same sort of physical toil. But with you,

790
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: it's very um, it's taxing, it's visible physically. Yes. I

791
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: I also think that this answer that you gave it

792
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: it could have been an answer um to another question

793
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: that you got which quarterback would get bench sterlely, because

794
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: if Trey Lance, when Trey Lance gets benched early for Garoppol,

795
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: unless it's an injury, I guess that's possible here his finger.

796
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: That would be a seismic move. That would be and

797
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: I and I'm I I have no reason to doubt

798
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: any part of your vision. Right there will be a

799
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: seismic move. They have to start Trey Lands. He's gonna

800
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: get all the reps this soft season. You've gotta get

801
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: it ready. And yet can't you just imagine, um, if

802
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: this team doesn't get out to a fast start like

803
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: a year ago, it's the Kyle Shanahan type of thing

804
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: to do. Matters. I think you you heard it time

805
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: and time again. How much of these guys really like Garoppolo?

806
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: He um also, for the record, was not healthy Trey

807
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: Lance that he couldn't throw a spiral last year because

808
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: of his finger. We know Garoppolo obviously was playing banged up,

809
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: and you just, yeah, you wonder because the other part

810
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: of the whole thing the Tray Lance coming out of

811
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: North Dakota State was he had very limited reps. He

812
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: was very raw, and he didn't really get any opportunity

813
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: to really learn the NFL game last year the way

814
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: he was used, the way apparently he was limited. So

815
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: now you didn't even get that first developmental year It's

816
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: a very tough spot for Shanahan and the Niners, who

817
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: have otherwise very much a win now right. Carl Shanahan,

818
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: John Lynch have been relatively bulletproofed through a bunch of

819
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: injury plague seasons. You have the Super Bowl campaign, the loss,

820
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: but a lot of up and down and this would

821
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: be nothing short of a gigantic disaster if trade Lance

822
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: is benched by Meek six. The vision's super imperfect. And

823
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: what the vision What came to me there is they

824
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: really want to make the Lance thing may work because

825
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: of what they invested in him and what he potentially

826
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 1: could bring to that offense in terms of his ability

827
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: to be a two way threat, which Garoppolo is not.

828
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: He didn't he didn't make a lot of plays. That's

829
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: the thing I feel like gets lost a little as

830
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: I was pretty intrigued by the two starts, and they

831
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: were very different, and there were a lot of ad

832
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: plays to like, very negative plays, but his great plays

833
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: were great, um and I thought he looked pretty good

834
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: in that Houston. We brought up West earlier, I'll bring

835
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: it up again, and we brought up Fantasy earlier. I'll

836
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: bring that up again. One thing whenever we did the

837
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: fantasy extravaganza, which of course will be coming up again

838
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: later this summer. Um West. One of the advice, the

839
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: advice he always gave out was don't settle on a

840
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: guy that has a floor and a low ceiling. I

841
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: take the chance and the guy that could really win

842
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: your league. And I think what you could take that

843
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: principle and take it to the Niners. You know what

844
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: you have in Jimmy g Right, but what if Trey Lance,

845
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: healthy in another year in the system, is a stud.

846
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: San Francisco is the best team in the lance. His

847
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: mobility fantasy wise makes him like Jalen Hurts, very high floor.

848
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: Now I'm talking, I'm talking real football, just saying but

849
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: but but it's but his ability to do everything, I

850
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: think I think it gives him a higher floor too.

851
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: I there's a couple and it seems like we're being

852
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: hard on Kyle Shanahan, But I feel like there's two

853
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: moments in his career which he probably will almost never

854
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: get criticized for it, but I'll have it in my

855
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: mind as a criticism. So just he'll know that if

856
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: he listens to his UH number one, you didn't draft

857
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes or any of those guys when you had

858
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: the chance. It's just like traded down. It took Solomon

859
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: Thomas and they sort of got a pass for that

860
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: um when you absolutely need a court. Number two is

861
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: Trey Lance wasn't gonna play worse than Jimmy g uh

862
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: in those last five games it was where the worst.

863
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: I would say that's the worst four game stretch of

864
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: Jimmy G's entire career. They made it to the NFC

865
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: Championship Game and a quarter away from the super Bowl

866
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: despite him, and in some way, I think that got

867
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: people to believe that's like why I guess it was

868
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: the right move. It's like, no tray Lance could have

869
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: given you a pretty low baseline there and not made

870
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes, and who know, they might have

871
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: been in the super Bowl, they might have won the

872
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: super Bowl. That's I think it tracks back to the

873
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: fact that I'm not convinced Kyle Shanahan really ever wanted

874
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: Trey Lance and probably prefers Jimmy G. And ways that

875
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: is problematic for the look at the Niner schedule because

876
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: it is also important, yes that the tray Lance does

877
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: get this job, that he starts well at Chicago, Okay,

878
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: home Seattle at Denver Sunday night football. I like that,

879
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: tray Lance Russell Wilson, Let's give me something. And then

880
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: Monday night football home against the Rams, that's you know

881
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: with and then you've got a nice little at Carolina

882
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: at Atlanta. They call that the like NFC South, like

883
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: layup machine, just like, hey, you guys need some help.

884
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: Let's play the Panthers and Falcons and back. But this

885
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: Panthers team is gonna have Baker. Maybe we've already discussed

886
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: the Panthers, but in because it's been seen that means

887
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: in that stretch they're going to go something along the

888
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: lines of three and three, two and four, leading to

889
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: a change against the Chiefs in Week seven. So unbelievable.

890
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: And I hope, I hope everyone uh is holding onto

891
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 1: their butts because we're not done yet. Greg. All right,

892
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 1: this is another topic. Everyone wants to know. Everyone wants

893
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: to know who is the rightful victor of the Davante

894
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: Adams trade. Wow, what everybody wants to know? It feels

895
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: like an opinion. But okay, okay, I mean yeah, is

896
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: that the future? Is it the past? Oh? Yes? What jeez,

897
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: not there, Michael Pittman seeing a lot seeing pain. I'm

898
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: seeing suffering um, and I'm seeing a lot of happy

899
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders fans. The Las Vegas Raiders are the

900
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: victor of the Davante Adams trade. You want to know why,

901
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: just look at the name of the trade. It's not

902
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: called the future picks trade. It's called the Davante Adams trade.

903
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't think that the Packers are going to fall

904
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: apart because they got rid of Davante Adams. I think,

905
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: considering where they were in their team building cycle and

906
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: Davante Adams wanted out, they got enough and that they're

907
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. But I believe that a wide receiver

908
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: that changes everyone around you. I did uh the PF

909
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: podcast last week or they put up this week. Steve

910
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: Palazzolo would call it a force multiplier. I believe in

911
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 1: that a top wide receiver makes everyone around him better,

912
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: including his quarterback like Derek Carr. And they're just they

913
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: are going to be the winner of that trade. And

914
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: you want to know why. I know they're gonna be

915
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: the winner because the Packers didn't want to make it.

916
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: Davante Adams made them make it. Okay, No, that's that

917
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: sound theory there that I wanted to be controversial to

918
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: have him back, and now they're in a position where

919
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: they're scrambling and they didn't make a big move on

920
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: draft the Packers to try to replace him. So I think, yeah,

921
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: I think it makes sense that this is how it's

922
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: going to play out. Now, will Adams be well, you

923
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: answer this is good? Greg, You're still in the headspace.

924
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: I hope if physically you can handle it. Um Davante

925
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: Adams does he have a hundred catches with Derek Carr

926
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: looking at the final Oh, that's I'm gonna have to well,

927
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to talk to people about anything because

928
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: this this would be a true advantage in Vegas. If

929
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: I knew that, I would say probably. But I did

930
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: look at the final standings for receptions. Davante Adams only

931
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: came in fourth, but it's with a hundred and three

932
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: catches seventeen weeks. He's got that extra game. Famously, terrible

933
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: gets over a. Greg is still going to use this

934
00:53:53,440 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: power for ill right to line his pockets for Raphael

935
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: Nadal has won the two French Open check out courts

936
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 1: of thunder its Um the last four years for Adams,

937
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: or say the last three years he's played at least

938
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: fourteen games, he's had a hundred and eleven, hundred and

939
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 1: fifteen and a hundred twenty three catches, So even he'd

940
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: be down twenty catches or he is going to be

941
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: down twenty catches, and yet I think the Raiders would

942
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: sign off on that. In a second. I do worry

943
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: about Josh McDaniels kind of is in a funny spot.

944
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a little off topic, and just because he's

945
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: taking over a team that I think overachieved and made

946
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and I feel like they could be like

947
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: the Davante Adams trade could make sense. They could have

948
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: had pretty good offseason moves. They could be good, and

949
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: they could still not make the playoffs. And then people

950
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: think the Backards won that trade. But I don't care.

951
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: It's still the right their own division. They play the

952
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: NFC West. That is thorny. Alright, one more look, what's

953
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: the juiciest one out here? Which one? Thank you to

954
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: all the listeners who contributed, who wanted the answers, and

955
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 1: we have provided them, whether you're happy about it or not. Again,

956
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with us. This is not

957
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: an opinion piece. Don't come at us, it's our ability.

958
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: Will we see the return to glory for Monday Night

959
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 1: Football as an entity now that Troy and Buck are there.

960
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: And I asked this, I I want to learn some

961
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: real details about how this Monday Night and great question

962
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: because Mark famously is turned on by Troy Aquman in

963
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: so many ways, and yet this answer that's coming to

964
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: him will have nothing to do with that, because it's

965
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: not about Mark's opinion. This is a perilous one for

966
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: me because he might He's in a position now Greg

967
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: where he might have to say something negative about a hero.

968
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: He really put him in a tough spot. He has

969
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: no choice. I am not getting painful physical vibrations. I'm

970
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: getting the opposite because let me tell you what I've seen,

971
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: Uh what vehicle on television football providing vehicle. It's been

972
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: more lamb based by this podcast than Monday Night Football

973
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: that's been telecast that we've been hard run. Two words,

974
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: problem solved. We already know they can do it. I

975
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: would say this about Troy Aikman. Yes, he is a

976
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: handsome man. But one of the reasons that I gravitate

977
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: towards Troy Agman is just that he was like at

978
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: the centerpiece for me football wise growing up. And he's

979
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: one of those last Cowboys quarterbacks. You've got the Tony

980
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: Romo thing that he has done it with Buck for

981
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: so long. Uh, they've got great chemistry. I think that

982
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: Buck is unfairly critiqued by people. Troy Aikman has gotten

983
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: better the last couple of years. Reason Lily, he you know,

984
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: he get a little edgy, to get a little bit

985
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: uh flustered and angry at what he sees on the field.

986
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: I think this is going to take Monday night football

987
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: and turn it back into something special. It has not

988
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: been special in a very long time. They're not taking

989
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: a risk. They're not rolling the dice with people we've

990
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: never heard of. They're not sticking a player in the

991
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: booth that's getting overpaid and never announced a thing that

992
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: we talked about. The floor and fantasy. The floor here

993
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: is extremely high. But I think they're going to start

994
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: to gravitate towards better matchups for Monday night football. I'm

995
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 1: giving it it got solid grade. Here's the thing why

996
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: this surprised me, and it's obviously it happened so it

997
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: is now going to be a huge story. Andrew Marshahn

998
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: is gonna be writing endlessly about how huge the ratings are.

999
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: And what really surprised me that that could be even possible,

1000
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: because it's kind of like this idea that Monday Night

1001
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: Football has to return to glory, like it needs to

1002
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: be a conversation, it needs to be you know, we're

1003
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: around the water cooler on Tuesday and we can't stop

1004
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: thinking about what Joe Buck said to Troy Aikman and

1005
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: like it. This is not the seventies anymore. The idea

1006
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: that Monday Night Football is an important quote unquote telecast

1007
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: is such a product of a bygone era that I

1008
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: think they go ahead. This isn't George This is not

1009
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: George Bush. With the mission accomplished, banner on the aircraft carrier.

1010
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 1: They can do it, ESPN. Put up the barrier, put

1011
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: up the put it up on the wall on the carrier.

1012
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: The mission is accomplished. I have one vision though that's

1013
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: disturb Well, let me just finish. Like but at the

1014
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: same time, what they accomplished was they have an A

1015
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: plus booth. But it's not gonna be changing the world.

1016
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be something that the America is talking.

1017
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: There is one disturbing element. Oh and this does this

1018
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: does make me, This does cause me a problem inside

1019
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: um because I think there's a reverse what was happening before.

1020
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: I think that the cat like this, it's as it

1021
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: on its own product will be very successful. And I'm

1022
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: with you on the on the status of television and

1023
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: the fact that it's not the biggest thing on the planet.

1024
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: But you're still dealing with the Manning Cast, which I

1025
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: think is the future of how so many people want

1026
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: to a big chunk of people want to experience football.

1027
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: And I think right away that takes away from bucking ACU. Wait,

1028
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: we're connecting. They said it couldn't be done. Will we

1029
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: see a return to glory from Monday Night Football? It

1030
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: is parts of two telecasts that are creating the best

1031
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: night of analysis and play by player. You've got it all.

1032
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: It is glory if you look at it from that,

1033
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: and it isn't. It isn't just a boomer take on

1034
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: things like the way that they've set it up. They

1035
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: have actually gone and created a type of broadcast that

1036
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: didn't exist a year ago. They've already done it with

1037
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: the Manning cast. I think that we're looking at something special. Well,

1038
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: they were. They were all together like at this Dog

1039
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: and Pony show at the ESPN like I don't know

1040
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: if it was ad sales up front whatever, and the

1041
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: four of them were together, Eli Peyton. So they're all

1042
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: looking at it like they're on there on the same team.

1043
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure they look at it like the money makes

1044
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: any sort of um rivalry or eyeballs that are being

1045
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: taken away, you know, not a problem. And I do

1046
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: think Monday Night for I think it matters materially because like,

1047
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: what are we talking about? It needs to return to

1048
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: some glory. NFL's dominant. It's already there. We are talking.

1049
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: Everyone is talking about Monday night football on Tuesday. But

1050
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: there is something that the schedule looks better on paper

1051
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: this year. I don't know if they had to do

1052
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: with Aikman and Buck or if that had to do

1053
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: with Thursday night not getting as good games vision Okay,

1054
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: it did have something to do with with it felt like, uh,

1055
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: they you know, they took some from Thursday gave it

1056
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: to Monday. Uh. And it most importantly is the game.

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Speaker 1: And this is partly why we talk about it so much.

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Speaker 1: It's the one game of the week where we're just

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Speaker 1: watching and there's no distraction. On Sundays, there's no podcast

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Speaker 1: we have to do. We're doing immediately after, like on

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Speaker 1: Thursday's potentially, or like finishing certain columns we're writing that

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Speaker 1: night and all no, I mean, it's it's the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you are. I I mixed it up there. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: it's fine. Sorry you're doing over there, Dan. I want

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Speaker 1: to do something real quick before we say goodbye, because

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Speaker 1: we are really it has been and a seismic offseason.

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Speaker 1: In the booth, I want you guys to there are

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Speaker 1: five different teams here ESPN, Fox, CBS, NBC, in Amazon.

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Speaker 1: Five points to your favorite booth, four to your second favorite,

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Speaker 1: three to your third, too, to your second to last,

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Speaker 1: one to your least favorite booth. Well, this is this

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Speaker 1: is tricky because I also need preseast in power rights

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Speaker 1: been okay, how about a use a blue pen? I

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Speaker 1: never used blue man. This is tough, All right, here

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Speaker 1: we go. I want to give a four way tie

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Speaker 1: for first. Sure, here we go, but you can't Greg,

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Speaker 1: you just can't remember. Five points to your favorite. Oh

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Speaker 1: it's tough, Oh tough, okay, not for me. I got mine,

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Speaker 1: all right, turn in your cards. Do you want me

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Speaker 1: to add him up? I think I think I could do. Wait,

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Speaker 1: Number one is the one we like the most, right,

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Speaker 1: the least, the least. I mean, it's so clear, repeated

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Speaker 1: it like three times, so three. The people need to

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Speaker 1: know how it went. All right, here we go, because

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Speaker 1: when I saw Mark's list, I was like, huh, you

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Speaker 1: have him first. All right, you guys speak amongst yourselves

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Speaker 1: while I handle the tabulation. I mean we could. We

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Speaker 1: are edited program after the fact. We are on YouTube though,

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Speaker 1: handling the math. Just do it. Check us out on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: How are things Gregg with you personally? Pretty good? Pretty good?

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Speaker 1: How are things with you personally? By the grave digger?

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Speaker 1: Let it slip the name of his paramore. You can

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Speaker 1: believe it. And that's that's actually kind of what I

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Speaker 1: imagine the name to be. Yeah, that's that's that's that's

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Speaker 1: in the wheelhouse. I feel like you guys knew that. Okay, See,

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Speaker 1: well you don't know how the old zeus are driving

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Speaker 1: the show here. It's getting a little dry and conversated

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Speaker 1: by watching you add the numbers. But I'd like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta know strengths and weaknesses of the personnel.

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Speaker 1: It's why I tried to volunteer. I thought you would

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Speaker 1: see what I was doing there. It's not that complicated,

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Speaker 1: like it was a test. But Greg, you would have

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Speaker 1: added it wrong, you would have done it in the opposite. Well,

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Speaker 1: I I flipped it once I realized, all right, we're

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Speaker 1: coming up now, So here we go. We're coming up right.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's really close, really close? Are there stark differences

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Speaker 1: between I guess we can get into that, but okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Here the final bring that music back,

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Speaker 1: let's get the tension. Um. Here we go. The power

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Speaker 1: of preseason power rankings of the Red Jigger Boots number one,

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Speaker 1: thirteen points. I already changed my mind, and I want

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Speaker 1: to change my CBS Nansen Romo number two twelve points.

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Speaker 1: Oh so close, Fox, excuse me, ESPN Yeah, okay, three

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Speaker 1: ten points, so very close, which is a good sign

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Speaker 1: that they did a nice job here, Tariko and Collinsworth

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Speaker 1: after that Fox, the Burkhardt Olsen team seven points, and

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Speaker 1: this one hurts al Michaels Car curb Street Amazon three

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Speaker 1: points total. We all were in lockstep. I'm not surprised

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Speaker 1: by then. We just don't know it's like, al um

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Speaker 1: and Greg's gonna do the map. Now, that's fine, I

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Speaker 1: wanna change my answer already, let's do it. Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: I was higher on Buck Aickman, not surprisingly. Then that's

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Speaker 1: of you. That actually makes sense that um, that all

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Speaker 1: adds up to me, maybe incorrectly. All right, good stuff,

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Speaker 1: good app I mean Mark voted Tariko and cons were

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Speaker 1: second to last. I was wondering how they didn't win.

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Speaker 1: My issue is I put it first? You don't like

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Speaker 1: collins Worth. Collins Worth is too folksy for me. I

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Speaker 1: don't find him funny. I used very good at what

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Speaker 1: he does, but it's just taste, right, and you that's

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Speaker 1: your opinion, and that's fine. Right now we're back in

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Speaker 1: the realm of opinion. It seems to differ from the

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Speaker 1: from how the hell YouTube feel, which is, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll have to reconcile that on my own. No, I

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Speaker 1: would say, there's gonna be a lot of private introspection

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Speaker 1: you'll have immediately following the show. All right, we'll be

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Speaker 1: back on Thursday. Uh so make sure you check that out.

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Speaker 1: Be there and thank you everybody for listening. Great hear

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling's voice there I love it. Until Thursday he

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Speaker 1: the call. See two