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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we never use air quotes

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Speaker 1: about our championship drought.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal here.

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Speaker 1: In the Chris Westling podcast studio, so excited on Tuesday

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Speaker 1: as usual to be joined by my friends Jordan Rodrigue

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Speaker 1: of the Athletic and Colleen Wolf of the NFC champion

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Speaker 1: Oh Ghiladelphia Eagle.

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Speaker 3: What is up?

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Speaker 4: I've been listening to Too Short for like I don't know,

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Speaker 4: seventy two straight hours.

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Speaker 2: It is really exciting.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just you two guys. This week we

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Speaker 1: have a special guest from across Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: Let's welcome her in as well.

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Speaker 1: Yes, hey, it's Mina Chimes from the Mina Chimes Show

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Speaker 1: Worthy featuring Lenny ESPN, NFL Live, all of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Mina.

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Speaker 5: Is this the most women ever?

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Speaker 2: Greg?

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Speaker 6: Are you a heroic ally today? Are you making history?

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Speaker 2: I'm loving it.

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Speaker 1: I always feel a little more comfortable, you know, with

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Speaker 1: female energy around me. I have been accused of maybe

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Speaker 1: not you know, the most masculine guy, but no, we're

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Speaker 1: just we're just talking ball here. That's what we're doing today.

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Speaker 1: And we're celebrating Colleen because she is gonna be celebrating me. Amazing.

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Speaker 1: She is gonna be on the field at Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: fifty nine. If you are lucky enough to be in

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Speaker 1: the stadium. I don't know if any of our listeners

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Speaker 1: are going to be there, reach out to us, let

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Speaker 1: us know. You'll be seeing Colleen on the big screen

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Speaker 1: super Dome kind of going in and out, which I

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Speaker 1: think is like the coolest gig ever. And the fact

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Speaker 1: you're doing it with your team playing.

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Speaker 7: Is really cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Joe Thomas and Ronde Barber, so it's like

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Speaker 4: a fun group too. And it's just it's nice that

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Speaker 4: the last time I worked a Super Bowl with the

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Speaker 4: Eagles were in was in Minnesota.

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Speaker 7: I didn't work in Arizona.

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Speaker 4: So it's nice that, like, I feel like it's a

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Speaker 4: it's a good location that's not freezing cold.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, Minnesota, I know, I guess.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if you were.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, it was literally so there was the

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Speaker 6: kind of cold where you walk outside and you feel

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Speaker 6: like you're being punched in the face the second you

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Speaker 5: And walk outside. It was insane.

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Speaker 6: But that was one of my favorite Super Bowls to ever, honestly,

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Speaker 6: because I was in the end zone. Yeah, I was

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Speaker 6: covering as a writer and I was in the end

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Speaker 6: zone where the Philly Special happened, and it was like

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Speaker 6: one of those football memories I'll never like, Yeah, tell

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Speaker 6: me about it, but I will never forget seeing leak

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Speaker 6: out and then just and you know, you're not supposed

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Speaker 6: to cheer in the press box, and I mean it's

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Speaker 6: not let's be real. I was cheering us the Patriots

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Speaker 6: every super Bowl possible, but the press box went nuts

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Speaker 6: just because it was such an insane, insane play. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it was just such a cool moment and we're literally

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Speaker 7: Oh I love that.

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Speaker 1: And the guy who ended that game for the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Graham, might be playing.

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Speaker 2: He might be coming back.

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Speaker 7: How about that?

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Speaker 8: I really hope So any inside intel I gave us

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Speaker 4: No, but as soon as I find out, I will

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Speaker 4: let you know, I will let everyone know.

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Speaker 1: Well, we have we have a lot of work to do,

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Speaker 1: not just today, but before we leave for New Orleans,

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Speaker 1: we've got a bunch of NFL daily shows. Jordan and

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Speaker 1: I are going to talk some all pros, but we

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Speaker 1: also have a live show that Jordan and I will

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Speaker 1: be involved with, which Mina Kimes is hosting Monday, February

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Speaker 1: third at the Belasco Theater in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: Tickets are available now.

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Speaker 1: You can go to minapodlive dot com and every dollar

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Speaker 1: of the ticket that you spend will be spent to

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Speaker 1: support the wildlife disaster relief efforts of the California Red Cross.

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited about this Monday night. Mina has like

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Speaker 1: the anxiety of putting together this show quite yet.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been a bit of a scramble, but we've

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Speaker 6: already sold a lot of tickets.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, it's I it's dollars.

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Speaker 2: This is a lot.

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Speaker 6: But not only does all that go to wildfi relief,

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Speaker 6: Omaha Productions is matching it. So you're basically donating one

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Speaker 6: you get limited edition merch showed you guys the hats,

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Speaker 6: You get snacks and this is this is not. The

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Speaker 6: graphic has been updated to reflect this. There's another guest

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Speaker 6: on top of you two and Chris Ryan and Andy

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Speaker 6: Greenwall the Eagles fans is calling knows all too well.

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Speaker 6: Kobe Turner of the rams so Ms Ramily in Los

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Speaker 6: Angeles Jordan. You know him, You've interviewed him, you spent

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Speaker 6: a lot of time with him. How excited should people

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Speaker 6: be to see Kobe Turner?

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Speaker 5: He is just a.

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Speaker 8: Wonderful person first and foremost, and like also, by the way,

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Speaker 8: he was Goo on Mass Singer this year, so people

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Speaker 8: who are fans of that show should come out and

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Speaker 8: meet Goo from the Mass Singer. Kobe Turner is an

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Speaker 8: awesome dude, and it's no surprise to me that he

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Speaker 8: and wanting to get in the community. Great dude happens

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Speaker 8: to be a pretty badass nose tackle as well, by.

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Speaker 6: Thee Oh, by the way, yeah, let all rookies and

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Speaker 6: sacks last.

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Speaker 8: By the way, I was eighteen sacks in two seasons.

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Speaker 8: Was a nose tackle, by the way, just just throwing

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Speaker 7: I'm so sad that I'm missing this. By the way,

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, he tiktoks there. You're going up against Opening Night.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, well that's an over rate, but I.

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Speaker 7: Will still donate.

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Speaker 5: Competition makes this better.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: I remember when you first read you reached out to

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Speaker 1: me at first, and you were like, hey, you guys

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, it was this great place. It

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Speaker 1: I was like, it wasn't too big though, probably like

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Speaker 1: that's that's big. That's great. And then I start asking me, Okay,

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Speaker 1: these are big ass spears. We gotta fill this place up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we gotta please. Yeah, please buy tickets by for

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Speaker 6: all your friends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tell you.

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Speaker 8: I have to tell you too, Mina. So I was

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Speaker 8: like very excited about this. Obviously, this NFL Daily and

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Speaker 8: Mina Chimes pod featuring Lenny Crossover is like really, I

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Speaker 8: did take a while to respond when you sent us

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Speaker 8: the original flyer showing that it was indeed at the Blasco,

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Speaker 7: Oh I guess, I hope most.

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Speaker 8: I was like at the wear now, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the great things about Los Angeles, though.

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Speaker 1: I really love La and we've all been really affected

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Speaker 1: everyone listening that's in La, come out. We don't ask

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Speaker 2: It'll be really fun. All Right, we are going to

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Speaker 1: We have not really gone over all the crazy amount

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Speaker 1: last full show, I did like an emergency topper on

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Speaker 1: everything that was going on with Liam Cohen because It's

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Speaker 2: The drama that led up to that.

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Speaker 1: But we haven't talked about the Raiders hiring Pete Carroll,

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Speaker 1: because all four of those coaches had press conferences on Monday,

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Speaker 1: Structure here other than I will order it in terms

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Speaker 1: the Pete Carroll Seahawks one is maybe the best opening

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk at the time. I was like, I'm in,

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Speaker 1: these four press conferences in terms of vibes. We'll go

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Speaker 1: on the Playmakers podcast, so you are a kingmaker the player.

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Speaker 5: Now we know how I got that job.

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Speaker 2: I'll start with you, Mina.

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, less about the press conference for now and

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Speaker 1: maybe more just do you think this can work?

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Speaker 6: We know that about Pete Carroll, so that mystery is

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Speaker 6: the Raiders are probably gonna go in that direction at

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Speaker 6: some point soon, if not this season. He is a

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Speaker 6: the Raiders obviously need. I think if I have any hesitation,

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Speaker 8: I don't feel like, as a total roster that they

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Speaker 8: We've seen this a couple years in a row, one

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Speaker 9: We're going to start right now to go after it

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Speaker 1: First of all, shout out to Pete for being the

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Speaker 2: He just went quarters. Zip. I do have a similar

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Speaker 2: Pete Carroll. I'm we're around the same age at this point.

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Speaker 4: I bet he could beat me.

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Speaker 7: In a race.

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Speaker 4: He is fit, he's in shape, he's fun, his players

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Speaker 9: wait to see what we're all about. Wherever our fans

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Speaker 2: There you go, there, you go.

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Speaker 9: What I'm talking about Mark a little bit.

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Speaker 7: He's whip smart, He's got his humor still.

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Speaker 4: I mean Marshawn Lynch just being there and doing that.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. And the vibes that he had with.

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Speaker 1: The vibes he had with Spy Tech immediately, who they

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Speaker 2: Jokes and they're going back and forth and they're.

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Speaker 1: Having I love that good time. It all makes that

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Speaker 1: You're right, he's younger than he seems. He doesn't have

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Speaker 2: This is a different stage.

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Speaker 7: He was like twenty years oldest.

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Speaker 1: Right, It's very different, but it was it was turned

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Speaker 2: And what do you think do you think you can

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Speaker 1: And now you've got Marsharton Lyne, Like as a Raiders fan,

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Speaker 6: Is there anyone you would want vouching for you more

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Speaker 5: I mean, like he's ultimate vibes.

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Speaker 6: It's not surprising that he ultimately, like immediately had chemistry

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Speaker 6: In fact, I don't know if I've ever told this story.

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Speaker 6: I was talking abou Patrick Peterson. That's it, Patrick Peterson.

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Speaker 6: I was in Florida and I was talking to his

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Speaker 6: Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, oh man.

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Speaker 5: With a legend a working moms. That sounds bad at

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Speaker 6: He would go, he would go into that living room and.

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Speaker 5: You would give him the world.

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Speaker 6: And he is just an unbelievably charismatic person. But as

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Speaker 5: So I think, just like a new group.

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Speaker 5: I really do. I think this was a good hire.

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Speaker 1: I think, especially for this Raiders team where they are

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Speaker 1: but it's a great hire for them. We don't know

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Speaker 1: It's like bo heart Agree has been thrown out for offense.

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Speaker 2: But just the vibes. I like having the rust.

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Speaker 8: I will say one thing something about the Raiders that's

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Speaker 5: That's what he likes to do.

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Speaker 8: And I think Raiders fans can appreciate that hearing that

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Speaker 1: Spy Tech mentioned Brady and Baker specifically saying, yeah, we

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Speaker 5: It was, it's this week.

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Speaker 2: It was this week.

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Speaker 4: All right. I just want to say that in terms

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Speaker 7: Now the fact that you love it so much.

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Speaker 7: I'm man, I don't know if seen to read.

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Speaker 5: I remember, what's your deal?

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Speaker 2: You guys?

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Speaker 6: Do you think like people under the age of twenty

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Speaker 2: No, give him the context, give him the context.

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Speaker 6: I mean the context is Jim Harbon, Pete Carroll, freaking

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Speaker 5: The Niners and the Seahawks hated each other.

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Speaker 6: And it wasn't just like history, and it wasn't just

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Speaker 5: What year was that?

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at it now.

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Speaker 1: It's after the two thousand and nine Stanford USC game,

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Speaker 2: And then and then he goes, what's your deal? It's

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Speaker 1: It's the best part here, And I forgot about this

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Speaker 6: I love the attention again when the Niners and the

446
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Speaker 6: Seahawks were rivals, ultimately like culminating one of the best

447
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Speaker 6: NFC championship games of all time. The tip like after

448
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Speaker 6: every game and Harball, I think Carrol's record.

449
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Speaker 5: Against him was you know, he beat him a lot.

450
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Speaker 6: With Russell Wilson, he just looks so mad.

451
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Speaker 5: For every game.

452
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Speaker 2: I love it.

453
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Speaker 7: I think so.

454
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Speaker 8: I think that divisions are better with coaching beef.

455
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Speaker 2: Yes, and like for Andy Reid to be.

456
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the most successful at least at the in the

457
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Speaker 1: NFL level of the four, but by are the lowest

458
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,400
Speaker 1: ego the three. Not that there's anything wrong with Pete

459
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 1: Carroll and An Harbaugh and Sean Payton all believing in themselves.

460
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Speaker 1: They absolutely should. Those games are going to be in

461
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Speaker 1: prime time. They're gonna be great. I think there's gonna

462
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Speaker 1: be more Jets games in primetime because the NFL is

463
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Speaker 1: not afraid to put a Jets team in primetime. We'll

464
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Speaker 1: find out about the quarterback situation there, but I'm going

465
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Speaker 1: Jets as my number two team. In terms of vibes

466
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Speaker 1: in the building, Aaron Glenn gives great press conference. He's

467
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Speaker 1: couldn't be a more popular pick. I think for Jets

468
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Speaker 1: fans man. He said all the right things. It was

469
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Speaker 1: like a perfect best man speech. It was so short,

470
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Speaker 1: you know, that's that's what you want to do. Like

471
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Speaker 1: he just nailed it.

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Speaker 2: It was short.

473
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Speaker 1: They actually didn't even allow that many questions, and they

474
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Speaker 1: let him break apart and they did the local stuff separately.

475
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Speaker 1: But it was awesome. Let's listen to Aaron Glenn talking

476
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Speaker 1: to the media.

477
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Speaker 7: Put your seatbelt zone and get ready for the ride.

478
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Speaker 2: Put your seatbet zone and get ready for the ride.

479
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Speaker 9: Listen.

480
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Speaker 10: There are going to be some challenges, but with challenges

481
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Speaker 10: become opportunity is opportunity.

482
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Speaker 2: But here's what I do know.

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Speaker 11: We're the freaking New York Jets.

484
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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, And they put that up on the back

485
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Speaker 1: page of the New York Daily News. It's one of

486
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Speaker 1: the things I missed about living in New York is

487
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Speaker 1: just seeing the back page every day and it's just

488
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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn saying, we're the freaking New York Jets.

489
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Speaker 2: We're built for this, Yes, And I.

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Speaker 1: Just like they could not have picked a more popular

491
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Speaker 1: head coach. And I really loved Before I get your thoughts, Colleen,

492
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Speaker 1: let's start with you. I really loved I was watching

493
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Speaker 1: how the owners were involved with with all of these,

494
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Speaker 1: Like Mark davis quick introduction just got to the thing

495
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 1: Whatny Johnson talked way too long. But he has said

496
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Speaker 1: two reporters after the fact that he's learned some things,

497
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Speaker 1: that he's made some mistakes, and at least he's saying

498
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Speaker 1: publicly that he's going to take a step back maybe

499
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Speaker 1: and let Aaron Glenn and their new GM Darren Mujie

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Speaker 1: start taking charge of this organization.

501
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about this? Hired Colleen Well.

502
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Speaker 4: I love Aaron Glenn. Here the Jets choose him for

503
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Speaker 4: select him for a second time. The first time was

504
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Speaker 4: first round in the draft. Now he comes back as

505
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Speaker 4: a head coach and he brings that whole Dan Campbell vibe.

506
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Speaker 4: We saw it with Ben Johnson too, just like I

507
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 4: don't know what that is, but it rubbed off on

508
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Speaker 4: both of them. And I don't know if Aaron Glenn

509
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Speaker 4: was just always like that, and same thing with Ben Johnson.

510
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Speaker 7: But he's perfect for New York.

511
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Speaker 4: He handled all of the reporters and all of the

512
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Speaker 4: questions so well, and that's so important because it's almost

513
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Speaker 4: like you get tested right away, like when you're in

514
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Speaker 4: a new environment. It's true for anything. Anyone starting a

515
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 4: new job at any point or hanging out with new people,

516
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Speaker 4: you kind of like get tested by the group to

517
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Speaker 4: see how far they can go.

518
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Speaker 7: Are you going to break? And he did not. He's

519
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Speaker 7: like he's.

520
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Speaker 4: Perfect, And I can't wait for the Aaron Aaron conversation

521
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Speaker 4: to happen with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Well, they asked him quite a bit about that and

523
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Speaker 1: he just said it will be time.

524
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Speaker 2: I'm open to it.

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Speaker 1: We have spoken with Aaron Rodgers that all seems positive.

526
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Speaker 2: If you want to keep Aaron Rodgers.

527
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Speaker 1: Yes, they were able to reach him on like the

528
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Speaker 1: Packers at this point in the year win. I think

529
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers might take it as a win if they

530
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Speaker 1: wanted to keep him. But we won't know about that

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Speaker 1: probably for a little bit. What do you think.

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Speaker 5: It's a small thing, but it actually does matter.

533
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Speaker 8: And I know there's going to be like some my

534
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 8: roles from listeners being like, Eh, it's not that big deal.

535
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Speaker 8: I've had conversations with people who have been either in

536
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 8: the OC job the DC job it didn't work out

537
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 8: and they kind of reflecting, or the head coach job

538
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 8: it doesn't work out and they're kind of reflecting on, like, Ah,

539
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 8: what should I have done differently?

540
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 5: What would I have done?

541
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Speaker 8: How could i've reset the path or really started out

542
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Speaker 8: as strong as possible. And one of those things, particularly

543
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Speaker 8: in that market, is having that little side scrum with

544
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Speaker 8: the reporters, getting FaceTime away from the main live stream

545
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 8: the TV broadcast, and really getting that time with the

546
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Speaker 8: people who are going to be looking at you in

547
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Speaker 8: that room and asking you questions about you single day.

548
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 8: And I know people go, oh, the media, you know,

549
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 8: it's not whatever, but that actually does matter. Winning those

550
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 8: people over first of all, but also connecting with them

551
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 8: immediately and setting a tone and setting a standard that

552
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 8: is super super important. And it actually is one of

553
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Speaker 8: the things that you hear if the jobs you know

554
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 8: of people going back and self scouting if it doesn't

555
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 8: work out like I wish I would have. It's not

556
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Speaker 8: a given that those asides happen. In so many places,

557
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 8: including in Los Angeles, those asides do not happen, and

558
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Speaker 8: so I think that that is super super important that

559
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 8: he did that because he wanted to be directly in

560
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Speaker 8: the mix with all of them, similar to how he

561
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 8: must have been constantly in scrums when he's a player

562
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Speaker 8: and say this is the standard. We are going to

563
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Speaker 8: talk directly face to face as people, and this is

564
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Speaker 8: what I'm about, and I need to show you that

565
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 8: with looking in your eyes right now.

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Speaker 6: I really like that point because I think people hear that,

567
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Speaker 6: and they are probably some folks first responsible. Well, of

568
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 6: course the reporter likes it when the coach talks to

569
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 6: reporters and treats them humans, But that's not what you're saying.

570
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 6: Like it speaks to a level of emotional intelligence and

571
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 6: just iq generally in terms of managing human beings. That

572
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 6: is so important in being a head coach. It's not

573
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 6: specifically about the media. It's about how he is managing

574
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 6: what is a very precarious situation. I was impressed with

575
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Speaker 6: the way he handled the Rogers stuff, Coline, you talked

576
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Speaker 6: about like just even addressing it. He could have been

577
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 6: really defensive or weird or vague about it. He was

578
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 6: just like, we're going to talk figure it out. Which

579
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 6: is I believe accurate to the situation.

580
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Speaker 5: I don't think.

581
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Speaker 6: I don't know, I you know, I have my own

582
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 6: thoughts about that, but I don't think that they've had

583
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 6: their minds made up completely thoughts.

584
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 5: I think they should move on from him.

585
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 6: That's my Financially, if they keep him, they're going to

586
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 6: be tied for another there's a huge, huge, huge financial hit,

587
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 6: not just this year, the next year. I also just

588
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 6: think the vibe shift is necessary. You got to do

589
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 6: what it takes keep Garrett Wilson happy if I'm the Jets.

590
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 6: So that's my take. But let's just like not beat around.

591
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 6: Like the most shocking and perhaps impressive part, he sounds

592
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 6: genuine happy to be a gh.

593
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeh. Was not a foreguy conclusion with this team.

594
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 6: Like when was the last time someone said we're the

595
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 6: freaking New York Jets in a positive quantitation and we

596
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 6: all believed it, Like even the backside of New yorkot.

597
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 6: I'm like, wow, that actually, like you could read this

598
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 6: as a negative if it was coming from anyone else.

599
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 5: But he really seems happy to be there.

600
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Speaker 1: He really stressed that too, that this was the only

601
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Speaker 1: job that he wanted that he made sure to schedule

602
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: those second interviews with it. I think it was the

603
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: Saints specifically after the Jets, because this is where he

604
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: wanted to go and just talked about how he loved

605
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: being there. As a player, and you just can't write

606
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: the story of him being there before. And I think

607
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: I think it's a good spot. They it's different than

608
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: it's been lately. They announced structurally he reports directly to

609
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: the owner and the new GM, Darren Mugie, who great

610
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: job at Darren Mujie, who didn't have a lot of

611
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: pizaz at the podium. You don't blame him his first

612
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 1: spot there, like he was completely ignored, like and he

613
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: loved it. He literally got one question at the press

614
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: conference and he's like the new general manager of the Jets,

615
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: and the one story he told was terrible. He talked

616
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: about how impressive Aaron Glenn was in this interview with

617
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: the Broncos back in twenty twenty two that when they

618
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: were interviewing him, they were like, what are you gonna

619
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: say to you know, the team on your first day?

620
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, you want me to do it now?

621
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: And he said he was the only coach that was

622
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: like yeah, sure, And he actually did the first day

623
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Speaker 1: speech in the and the whole room was like, oh

624
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: my god, this guy is amazing, like and it really

625
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: stuck with us. And then I'm like, yeah, bro, but

626
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: you you hired Nathaniel Hackett. That is not a good

627
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: end to the story, like you totally botched it.

628
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: But I thought that.

629
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Speaker 1: I thought he's gonna have a lot of power. I

630
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: think Aaron Glenn and I like he got Darren Rizzy there.

631
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: Darren Rizzy was at the Ponium coach Rizz is with

632
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: him in New York. And yes, I have to think

633
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn actually had an impact on Woody Johnson saying

634
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: the words quote, I have to look in the mirror

635
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: and be a better owner. I've covered, I've covered, I've

636
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: watched the Jets for twenty plus years.

637
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: That is new.

638
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 8: You have not heard Jerry Jones say that.

639
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: No, just saying good teas.

640
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll be back talking

641
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys, and yes, the Jaguars after.

642
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: The break.

643
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily, And yes, we're talking about all

644
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: the new head coaching hires and the press conferences, ordering

645
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: them by vibes. We'll also talk a little coordinator talk afterwards.

646
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Speaker 1: But number three and vibes was Liam Cohen. I would

647
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: say with the Jaguars, everyone's everyone's seeing the clip that's

648
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: done around.

649
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: All right, let's start with.

650
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 11: That Jacksonville, the community. How do we do this together?

651
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Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, I've seen this like one hundred times obviously,

652
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 6: I think we all have.

653
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 5: It's the facial movement that's the problem.

654
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 6: I've realized it because I think in audio forma, if

655
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 6: it just closed my eyes, it doesn't sound as bad.

656
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: You guys agree, absolutely, it's the but You'm good. It's

657
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: the way he makes you feel when he's moving his.

658
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Speaker 7: Face that is Okay, I have to say no.

659
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 8: So I covered Liam, right, and so okay, every Thursday

660
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 8: coordinators would do the press conference.

661
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Speaker 7: This has bit.

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Speaker 8: I mean like he at least he was himself, you know,

663
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 8: like this is been Lee, this is him, this is Liim.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

665
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Speaker 5: So Liam I said this.

666
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Speaker 8: When I said this, when he got in the room

667
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 8: with Baker, right, I was like, oh I love this

668
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 8: personality fit what a ViBe's room that is right there,

669
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 8: and it's sort of elemental to like Liam is. He's like,

670
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 8: remind you you know those the guy that like runs

671
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 8: the surf shop at the beach and is like, really

672
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 8: you can do as a chiller. You've never done this, yeah,

673
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 8: like you've never done this before in your life? Stand

674
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 8: up on a surfboard, like you got this and you

675
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 8: actually and.

676
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 5: You actually do it?

677
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 8: You I think that's where and and it is like

678
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 8: we got to get that guy to stop moving his

679
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 8: head so much, I think.

680
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 5: But also like it is he is such a vibe.

681
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 7: It is so a head coach.

682
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 8: He was as an oc as an oc in Tampa

683
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 8: Bay with Baker Mayfield specifically, I cannot think of a

684
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 8: more perfect vibes compliment to each other, because you got

685
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 8: this really heck and fired up kid, not kid now,

686
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 8: but Baker Mayfield, who we know is just like so

687
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 8: much dip on his chip at all times. And then

688
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 8: you've got Liam Cohen.

689
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Speaker 2: And the longer I watched it, the more comfortable.

690
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: I thought that was maybe more awkwardness, but maybe that

691
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: is just he always is a litle I have.

692
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 8: A post on my of him talking about playing complimentary

693
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 8: football on my that it's still on my Instagram account

694
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 8: and he goes, we actually played complimentary football, and I'm like,

695
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 8: it's just him, that's wo.

696
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: And he got more comfortable as the press conference went on,

697
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: and it was a totally find press conference and the

698
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: vibeses actually in the room.

699
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: I think we're quite high jack.

700
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 4: We shall have him on the next the next time

701
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 4: we do. Things were getting too high on I think

702
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 4: that maybe we should talk.

703
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: To him then.

704
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: That was a controversial segment that we did and I

705
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: don't know if it'll be brought back, but I would

706
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: love Liam Cohen would fit on.

707
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 5: That maybe sometime in April. And I'm not sure.

708
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: The day people were people were happy, like people there

709
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: happy that they got him, like that was their guy. Yeah,

710
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: And I thought as I watched the whole thing, it

711
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: was a totally normal press conference. It was a little

712
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: awkward when they were asking him about leaving Tampa, and

713
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: I didn't really buy what he was selling there about that.

714
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: He just didn't answer the questions and was like it

715
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: was a great opportunity and it's just all about the

716
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: people here and it's like, no bro like the like.

717
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: He basically he completely denied that Trent Balki getting fired

718
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: had anything to do with him event taking the job, which,

719
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: right so got a little bit like a lie, but

720
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: also a normal coaching lie that I didn't really care about.

721
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: In the room, I think they were all excited. Are

722
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: you excited, Mina about the Liam Cohen era in Jacksonville?

723
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 10: Yeah?

724
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 5: I think I really liked the football fit. So let's

725
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 5: start there.

726
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 6: I mean, Jordan just talked about the work he did

727
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 6: with Baker Mayfield, which is I think.

728
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 5: You know why, I think we can all safely say

729
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 5: why he has that job.

730
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 6: But what struck me watching the Bucks offense this see

731
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 6: her was just how quarterback friendly it was. Baker always

732
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 6: had good answers quickly. He played the fastest football of

733
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 6: his career in terms of time to throw. And then

734
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 6: the run game. You know, some of the lot I

735
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 6: had to do with the investment they made on the

736
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 6: offensive line, no doubt, but you saw that run game

737
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 6: evolve over the course of the season in a way

738
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 6: that suited the talent of the players. And when I

739
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 6: look at Jacksonville and I think about this offense, you

740
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 6: can't run the football well. You had a quarterback who

741
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 6: at one point was playing like a top five quarterback,

742
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 6: even though it was just two years ago. Nobody remembers

743
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 6: it when he was playing fast. It feels like a

744
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 6: good match between what we saw for the Bucks offense

745
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 6: and what we know you need to get out of

746
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence in the future.

747
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Baker reportedly told him not even reportedly Liam

748
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: Cohen said it Baker was one of the people he

749
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: talked to in this weird process.

750
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: In Baker was like, go get it, Go get that job.

751
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you know the Bucks front

752
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: office was feeling the same. I definitely heard reportedly not yeah,

753
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: that the Bucks front office and the Bucks ownership was

754
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: not thrilled because they thought they had a verbal agreement

755
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: that was going to make him the highest paid coordinator,

756
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: and he was part of that agreement was he wasn't

757
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: supposed to even take a second interview, and then he

758
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: goes without telling him.

759
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: I don't really care about all that stuff. In the end.

760
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: Coaches do that sort of stuff all the time. They

761
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: do it to players. It's not great, it's not ideal,

762
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: but I like it. I don't like the setup that

763
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: he has. I'm a little worried about everything beyond the

764
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: play calling, which I thought was fantastic last year, Like

765
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: it was so exciting. He was that kind of hot

766
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: coreator that is going to bring I think a schematic

767
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: advantage if he can bring that over what he did

768
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 1: in Tampa. I don't know who the GM is going

769
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: to be there, but here's what they didn't do in

770
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: that press conference, they didn't deny that Tony Boselli is

771
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: like quietly running the team, just a former player who

772
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: does the radio there and has Shod Khan's ear what

773
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: and like Trent Balki's not there anymore, and he was

774
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: the guy who kind of had Shot Cohn's ear, And

775
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: they asked him, like, is Bacelli, who I think was

776
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: the most important person in this head coaching search by

777
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: the sound of it, what type of job he has?

778
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: And Shod Kan's answer was, well, we have to check

779
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: with the league what we're allowed to do, but he

780
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: will have some sort of position, So I'm not sure

781
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: on the personnel side and the organizational side. The Jaguars

782
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: have been pretty bad for the most part for a

783
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: while and there are systemic reasons for that and that

784
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: he might be pushing against that.

785
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 8: Liam Cohen, yeah, also his agent played for the Jaguars

786
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 8: once time briefly, but stayed connected with the organization, so

787
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 8: there's obviously a knowledge of how it works there and

788
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 8: how now everything is structured, and a clear understanding of

789
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 8: really what you're getting into. If you're Liam Cohen, this

790
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 8: is going to be interesting to me because when I

791
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 8: watched his offense in Tampa Bay this year, which I loved,

792
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 8: absolutely loved it, wouldn't shut up about it.

793
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 5: You know this well, Greg and Collen, But.

794
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 8: I saw shades and variations of the Rams offense from

795
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 8: previous iterations of that offense before, you know, Kevin O'Connell

796
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 8: came in and changed the things, and then before Michael

797
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 8: Floor and Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford changed even more

798
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four. And I

799
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 8: saw a Chris Godwin who was being deployed a lot

800
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 8: like Cooper Cup in the Z role, but in a

801
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 8: very much expanded version of what another team would call

802
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 8: a slot receiver, being able to do a lot of

803
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 8: things autonomously. Really saw his target share increase. I saw

804
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 8: a better run game than the Rams had had when

805
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 8: Liam Cohen was the OC for LA in twenty twenty

806
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 8: two and only twenty twenty two. And I also saw

807
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 8: that they had a great offensive line. To your point, Mina,

808
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 8: and these are all things. You know, he's going to

809
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 8: have a really great offensive line as well. He's got

810
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 8: the quarterback in Trevor Lawrence. I've always wanted to see

811
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 8: Trevor Lawrence in this type of system. For me, though,

812
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 8: and I've sort of said it seemed like Liam was

813
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 8: pretty open all year about the fact that.

814
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 5: Maybe he was a year away.

815
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 8: I think this is a really friendly market to onboard

816
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 8: as a head coach as in that division. Absolutely yeah.

817
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 8: And also it's a and like you have an O

818
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 8: line and you have a quarter.

819
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think they feel like they

820
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: have an O line necessarily.

821
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 5: But I think pieces of it right.

822
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 8: But I also think that for me, this is going

823
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 8: to be what does the next version of this offense

824
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 8: look like after you put on tape, what probably is

825
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 8: going to look functional and cohesive in twenty twenty five.

826
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 5: I have no doubt that they'll come out firing.

827
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 8: Nobody's going to know really what to expect from Trevor

828
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 8: Lawrence in this system, and they'll put enough pieces around.

829
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 8: But similar to like a Bobby Slowick after one year

830
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 8: trying to move this offense into the next phase even

831
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 8: though he had not actually been part of the process

832
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 8: of doing that, I'm very curious as to what Liam

833
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 8: Cohen is going to do beyond this year, what his

834
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 8: offenses are going to look like in the two point

835
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 8: zh three point oh four point zero versions of what

836
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 8: Kyle Shanahan of what Sean mcfay, who he specifically the

837
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 8: latter was very connected to in his press conference and

838
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 8: thanking him for his guidance and all of that. And

839
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 8: so I'm curious about what that's going to look like

840
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 8: after they come out hot, probably in twenty twenty five.

841
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 8: What is two point oh three point oh? How do

842
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 8: you evolve this forward? If you're Liam Cohen? To me,

843
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 8: that's what this job actually is.

844
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 2: Yeah?

845
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 9: Is he is?

846
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 8: He?

847
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 2: Like the leader of men type of guy too?

848
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: Is something I'm thinking about, like and just being able

849
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: to organize an entire organization that's going to need some organizing.

850
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 5: You weren't convinced by the Duval?

851
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 8: You can do agree?

852
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: Well, you know what he what's underrated about part of that?

853
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: And let's get to the cowboys after this, But let's

854
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: listen to one more time. It's the intro to it.

855
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad because the four second clip that went around

856
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: Twitter for the most part and Blue Sky it was

857
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: just the Duval. But I really like that it kind

858
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: of came out of nowhere that you can almost hear

859
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: what the PR director said to him right before he

860
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: got on the podium about talking about Jacksonville and the

861
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: community's let's listen.

862
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 11: Again, Jacksonville the community, douvall, how do we do this together?

863
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 4: And his eyebrows, he's got the eyebrows that kind of

864
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 4: switched during it too. I got it.

865
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: Jacksonville the community as time wears on is becoming a

866
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: bigger and better part of that. For me, it's really

867
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: like an underrated gem. I had a whole other normal quote.

868
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking about going out there to.

869
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: Show that it was actually pretty good.

870
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: It actually was totally fine. It was a totally good,

871
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: normal press conference. It was not Adam Gase with the Jets.

872
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: I promise I watched the wow because that was a time.

873
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 9: Yeah.

874
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 6: Imagine though, if he had hit him with like we're

875
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 6: going to take it to the limits, like a little

876
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 6: real throwback.

877
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 5: I do want to plan who would have won over

878
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 5: the internet? Yeah?

879
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 8: True, I do want to say, though, it's it's interesting

880
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 8: the juxtaposition. I wonder what you guys think about this.

881
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 8: Between Ben Johnson's opening press conference when he adamantly and

882
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 8: very specifically was like, I don't care that I you know,

883
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 8: I never had a famous last name. I didn't I

884
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 8: wasn't basically making these sort of references not so subtly

885
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 8: to the mcveigh's, the Shanahan's saying overtly who wants to

886
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 8: beat Kubiak's saying overtly he couldn't. He enjoyed Matt Lafleur specifically.

887
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 8: I think that the juxtaposition was very interesting to me

888
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 8: because you know, Liam Cohen came out and was like

889
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 8: very Sean McVay heavy, right, And so I think that juxtaposition,

890
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 8: I'm just I'm I'm tracking it.

891
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: Yes, Liam Liam Cohen made a point over and over

892
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: to give Sean McVay a ton of credit, saying like

893
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: he would be honored to be considered part of that tree,

894
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 1: and that that was graduate school and his whole life

895
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: was changed by being in the RAMS building and was

896
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: loving up his old boss. Let's go to Dallas where

897
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: yes it's fourth and vibes because Brian Schottenheimer was very

898
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: happy to be there and was tearful, and I thought

899
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: did a good job, and I thought had a had

900
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: a real head coach haircut like it was a good

901
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: Shottenheimer sort of like either like haircut with kind of

902
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: like like a little fate like it was good.

903
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 9: It was.

904
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, all right. He was great, he was emotional,

905
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: he did what he could. But his bosses, Jerry and

906
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: Steven Jones, were so incredibly defensive that it felt like

907
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: the whole press conference was settling scores. And the tone

908
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: was set early even by the reaction that that they

909
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 1: got starting the press conference.

910
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: It's our new Dallas Cowboys head coach, Brian Schottenheimer.

911
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 7: This is amazing.

912
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: And chief operating an officer, executive vice president, player of

913
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: personnel and co owner.

914
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: Stephen Jones, all.

915
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 6: Right, we'll clap for you.

916
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

917
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: It's like a strange hire from the outside looking in,

918
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: because people aren't excited about what they've seen out of

919
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: Brian schottenheimer offenses. And I do believe he is planning

920
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: to call plays, by the way, Aaron Glenn is not

921
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: going to call places. Liam Cohen is going to call plays.

922
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: If we're tracking that, I think Brian Scheinenheimer could be

923
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: a better head coach than he was an offensive coordinator.

924
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: They actually made a fairly compelling case once you got

925
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: past a lot of the.

926
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: Just defend Jerry.

927
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: I actually think I think that they made a compelling

928
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: enough case that they wanted to have continuity and a

929
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: change at the same time, which is confusing. But the

930
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: case that he made that like, look, we've never met

931
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: these people. Want us to bring guys from out of

932
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: the building and hire them, and we've never met them,

933
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: and that seems crazy to me.

934
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 5: That's part of the point.

935
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: I do get that, But I also.

936
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: Kind of get that that seems crazy to them too,

937
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: because that's not how like most businesses work. And I

938
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: don't think that's that crazy that you could have a

939
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: broad spectrum of people that you at least know within

940
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: the NFL and you would have a feeling and he's

941
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: in your building every day. I don't think like that's

942
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: necessarily that crazy of a way to hire a coach.

943
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: It's more of the Schottenheimer of it all.

944
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: Mena.

945
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: And you watched him as the offensive coordinator in Seattle.

946
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: He was up and down there. He's had some pretty

947
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: rough years as a coordinator. He's had some okay years.

948
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 2: What did you make of all this? And that he's

949
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: getting his first chance here at each.

950
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 5: He's no longer just Brian. He's the head coach of

951
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys.

952
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 6: Jerry said, I guess the familiarity thing I think would

953
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 6: resonate with me more if it was a successful organization

954
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 6: and you could say, well, the Cowboys have been successful recently,

955
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 6: but you know, the offense felt really stale last year,

956
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 6: even before Dek Prescott got hurt, it has felt like this.

957
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 6: This is I think there are some teams where you're like,

958
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 6: I understand why they're sticking with got someone in the

959
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 6: organization maybe, or someone people are excited about.

960
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 5: This is not one of those teams.

961
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 6: This is a team that I thought felt like really

962
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 6: needed to be shook up in some ways, and they

963
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 6: went in the obvious office direction.

964
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 5: Pardon me.

965
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 6: I did find something very interesting about what Schottenheimer said, though,

966
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 6: and I'm curious to hear you.

967
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 5: Guys' thoughts on this.

968
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 6: He when he spoke, and he was I thought, fine

969
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 6: and normal and presented well, but he was oddly specific

970
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 6: about the offense.

971
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys heard that part. He

972
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 5: is not the great buzz words.

973
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 6: Yes, he was like, we're gonna use cut splitsend motion

974
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 6: and we're going to improve the run, and I was like, WHOA.

975
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 5: First of all, that never happens, right, That's why it

976
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 5: jumped out to me. Usually it's buckle up your seat belts.

977
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 6: You know, this is Jet's football, is much more normal,

978
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 6: but also made me think he might be distancing himself

979
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 6: from the Mike McCarthy offense because you guys, remember he

980
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 6: didn't call plays. McCarthy took over play calling after Kellen

981
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 6: Moore left. So I do wonder if Schoenheimer is trying

982
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 6: to signal, hey, we're going to go in a different

983
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 6: direction here, and if I was a Cowboys fan, that

984
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 6: might be the glimmer of hope I'm finding in all

985
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 6: of this. Maybe because Greg you talked about like John

986
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 6: in Seattle, he did call an incredibly explosive offense that

987
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 6: kind of hit a wall for a litany of reasons.

988
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 6: But there's a possibility that we might not have seen

989
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 6: from him the kind of offense he actually wants to call.

990
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: In Dallas, Supposedly, Clayton Adams of the Cardinals is the

991
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: favorite to be the offensive coordinator. And Clayton Adams is

992
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: one of those guys who's kind of known as a

993
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: run game you know, creative savant. He's an offensive line coach,

994
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: which is an interesting thought and very creative and has

995
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: a great reputation as kind of one of those guys.

996
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: And yeah, to your point, I think that would be

997
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: introg resting. And then you have Eberflus. Is that probably

998
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: going to be the defensive court. It's not the higher yet,

999
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: like you better be careful heartedly alleged I believe it.

1000
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: Edward or your old co.

1001
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: Put it out that they are hiring him, and then

1002
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: like minutes later Edwarder put out another two It was like, actually,

1003
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: they have to comply to the Rooney rule. They are

1004
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: learning now and they will be interviewing people. So that's

1005
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: unfortunate that it's that all seems like a sham and

1006
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: that Eberflus is getting that job.

1007
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 5: But that just that's that sucks.

1008
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 8: That's that's that's the other thing about the Jacksonville situation

1009
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 8: that really was grimy, like too, by the way, just

1010
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 8: to yeah, anyway, I think.

1011
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: What you said about the scheme specific stuff was interesting, Munich,

1012
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: because I really got the sense that Dak Prescott had

1013
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: a big role in this hiring.

1014
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: He's very close to Schottenheimer.

1015
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: Well, Jerry Jones and Schottenheimer kind of talked about how

1016
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: much support Dak caster for him. He talked a lot

1017
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: about tempo very specifically, like we want to be a

1018
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: tempo team, and it's Dak Prescott's team.

1019
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: And Jerry was.

1020
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: Funny though, just talking about like, well, when I was

1021
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: in the meeting and it would be sad in there

1022
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: on a lot of those Mondays, but then someone in

1023
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: the corner would say something.

1024
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: I'd say like, oh, yeah, that's a pretty good point.

1025
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: Who was that? And it was my guys shotting.

1026
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 7: He also called him a puppy. He's fifty years old.

1027
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 4: He's a puppy, So I mean that makes Pete Carroll

1028
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 4: look pretty young as well, just a young dog at

1029
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 4: that point. But the continuity, I think is important because

1030
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 4: those relationships are already in place. And Brian Schottenheimer has

1031
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 4: been waiting for an opun intended his shot for a

1032
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 4: while now, and he even said that he was not

1033
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 4: ready years ago, and of course he's gonna say now

1034
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 4: he is. But think about all of the notes that

1035
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 4: he's been taking and just watching how everything works in

1036
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: that building and probably noting anything that is dysfunctional and

1037
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 4: knows what needs to be changed. Now it's a matter

1038
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 4: of will they have the resources to actually do the

1039
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 4: things that need to be done and will it work.

1040
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 7: Does he have the right ideas he is like.

1041
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: A people person that is better maybe at that aspect

1042
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: of the job, which is kind of what the cowboys

1043
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: job is, because they have so little power. Like you

1044
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: were hearing, Mike McCarthy essentially complained he didn't have enough

1045
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: power over his own schemes some of the times, like

1046
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: so that's a that's a rough situation.

1047
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: Let's actually let's listen to one thing. Jerry said that

1048
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 2: he liked.

1049
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: About Brian Schottenheimer, like, you know, sometimes it's cool to

1050
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,959
Speaker 1: have a guy who's been around the block.

1051
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 10: I like his baggage. I like his baggage.

1052
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 9: I like that experience.

1053
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 10: And one of the things he said to his mama is, Mama,

1054
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 10: I'm gonna get what daddy didn't get a chance to get.

1055
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 10: Got a chance but didn't get it, and I'm going

1056
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 10: to go to souper Bowl if it kills me. And

1057
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 10: his mother, of course, was emotional. This one will be

1058
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 10: for daddy, The first one will be for him.

1059
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 8: I appreciate Shoddy's facial expressions through that entire like, I

1060
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 8: felt he struck the right balance between uncomfortable, appreciative, and

1061
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 8: stoic all at the same time.

1062
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: It was a lot of Mommy, Mama and daddy and

1063
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: it was a lot of crying and it reminded me

1064
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: so much Mina of that that land Man speech.

1065
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 2: The whole thing it was all about Daddy. I was

1066
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: actually moved. I was like, do it for Marty, you can.

1067
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 6: I mean, Jerry Jones probably says daddy on a daily

1068
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 6: basis more than any of us.

1069
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: They're comfortable.

1070
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 6: Sorry, I don't know this, you know what watching we

1071
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 6: aired that a lot of the Jerry presser and there's

1072
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 6: other parts where he's basically he's just nagging him.

1073
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 2: Half the time was.

1074
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 5: The head coach not much of him?

1075
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 6: He kept saying, this is the biggest risk I've ever

1076
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 6: taken a man without head coaching experience.

1077
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 5: We were like, that literally happens all the time.

1078
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 6: It felt like, have you guys ever been at a

1079
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 6: wedding where like the brother in law or someone's giving

1080
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 6: a toast and it's like fifteen minutes in and they're

1081
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 6: still like he's a real piece of shit?

1082
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 5: Are you going to get to like the nice stuff soon?

1083
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 6: Like he cheated on his last girlfriend, he didn't even

1084
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 6: finish college. Mom and dad hated him, and you're just

1085
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 6: sitting there like, oh my God, because it's gonna turn

1086
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 6: positive at some point.

1087
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 5: That's how I felt watching.

1088
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 7: That a full roast.

1089
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 5: Can't wait for Tim Wolfe's wedding.

1090
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 10: It was, it was, it is.

1091
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: It was sort of the opposite of what I said

1092
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: with the Jets.

1093
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: Remember I said that was like fifteen minutes long and

1094
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: the opening speech was short, and the Cowboys thing went

1095
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: on for like eighty minutes.

1096
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 2: I made this thing.

1097
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna work while having these on

1098
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: in the background. I was like, I gotta get on

1099
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: with my day. Jerry, it's like still going. We had

1100
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: to go off on NFL network like it'd been too long.

1101
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 8: That's pretty classic of when he holds court at the

1102
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 8: league meetings too. He'll say multiple, make multiple points, and

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Speaker 8: then counter his points and then make a new point.

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00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 8: You have to stay the whole time to make sure

1105
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 8: you get the full picture of what it was. He

1106
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 8: just holds you hostage. Yeah, and he knows it. He

1107
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 8: holds court like he has the floor and not surprised

1108
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 8: to see the acting chops by the way. For that reason,

1109
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 8: So this I had a buzzword that really like set

1110
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 8: off a flare in my brain, and I did you

1111
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 8: just I just went back and I remembered some of

1112
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 8: the shots of his face when the Green Bay Packers

1113
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 8: put up forty eight points on him, and when shot

1114
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 8: he said, marry the run and the pass. That is

1115
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 8: something that I remember when Matt Lafleur was first kind

1116
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 8: of getting his feet under him, and then further after him,

1117
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 8: Kevin O'Connell was getting his feet under him. The talk

1118
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 8: and the conversation about marriage of the run in the past,

1119
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 8: specifically as it pertains to making everything look the same

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00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 8: run or pass out of the same pre snap looks,

1121
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 8: getting your motions and your timing correct on those running

1122
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 8: play action and getting your passing game deployed out of

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Speaker 8: establishing play action. I just thought back when he said

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00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 8: that to Jerry Jones, his face and there were many

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00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 8: shots of him sitting up there as his team got

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00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 8: their butts kicked by an offense that does that extremely

1127
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 8: well and is known for that type of thing, and

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00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 8: also further whose coaches are known for using that exact language.

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Speaker 8: And you talked about his notes, Colleen, I have no

1130
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 8: doubt that shot he's been sitting back and taking notes

1131
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 8: over what works in the league. Now, Will he has

1132
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 8: let's go, Will you have the runway, the autonomy, the support,

1133
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 8: Will you get the play? You know, will all of

1134
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 8: it work?

1135
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 9: We don't know.

1136
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 8: We just never know with any of these guys. But

1137
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 8: that was definitely a buzzword, a flare word for me.

1138
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: Said, off, some let's have a quarterback. He's got Ceedee

1139
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: Lamb and Michael Parks. I mean, he's got some things.

1140
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: It'll he has a chance, we'll see. I'm not like

1141
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: writing him off. I think people have been a little

1142
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: too crazy just because how they've presented. It is understandably

1143
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: getting picked apart because is so defensive. And again it's

1144
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: a lot of daddy. It's a lot of wife talk too.

1145
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: Emica was sitting next to me while this was happening.

1146
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: It's too cold in the garage right now to go

1147
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: out there, and so I had it on.

1148
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 7: She's like, what do you mean do you usually go

1149
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 7: to the garage?

1150
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I go watch go work in the garage or whatever,

1151
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: and and it's a lot of like She's like, why

1152
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: doesn't he just tell his wife at home how much

1153
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: is he loves her? Why does he have to do

1154
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: it up there. It's a lot of wife and mom

1155
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: and dad talk up there.

1156
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 2: The podium.

1157
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like, hey, thanks for thanks for sticking

1158
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: with me when I'm never home. All right, Oh no, men,

1159
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: we've taken up a lot of your time. Wanna I

1160
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: do want to get your thoughts quickly on your new

1161
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: Seahawks coordinator before we let you go. That was it

1162
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: for the head coaching hires, but an interesting hire another

1163
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: familiar name. Clint Kubiak is the Seahawks offensive coordinator. Was

1164
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: with Minnesota and then was with the Broncos briefly was

1165
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: the play caller there when Nate Hackett got fired, and

1166
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: was with the Saints last year. Now he's going to

1167
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: be Gino's guy. Do we think he's the right guy

1168
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: to steward the next era of Gina.

1169
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 6: I just realized his brothers are Clay and Kleine, and

1170
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 6: they all all their names start with K A kub It's.

1171
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 8: A kettle of Kubiaks. I'm trying to make that stick

1172
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 8: all year.

1173
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 5: I know, right, it's like, we're to take your risks

1174
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 5: in the NFL. Brian Schwenheimer, Quent Kubiak, all.

1175
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 6: These Yeah, I think I'm optimistic, but cautiously I think

1176
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 6: the Sants offense was really hard to evaluate because of

1177
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 6: all of the injuries, obviously quarterback being primary, but really

1178
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 6: I thought they were tanked by the offensive line. And

1179
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 6: I think that's that does concern me because we all

1180
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 6: know that's the weakness of the Seattle offense. I think

1181
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 6: they're going to try to fix it this offseason, but

1182
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 6: I think that would be my biggest question is can

1183
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 6: he find a way to adapt, because you know, Duran's

1184
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 6: talking about running. Everybody wants to marry the run the past,

1185
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 6: but it's a lot harder when you can't run the football,

1186
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 6: and it's hard to run the football when you don't

1187
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 6: have a good offensive line. And this is nuke basically

1188
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 6: nuke to the Seattle offense, right and nukeda this year

1189
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 6: for Ryan Grubb who went from calling it offensive Washington

1190
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 6: with one of the best offensive lines in football to

1191
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 6: a very bad one and couldn't adjust. And I think

1192
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 6: that's gonna be the challenge for Clint Kubiak. That said,

1193
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 6: I think some of the principles he's from the Shanahan

1194
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 6: Tree shocker, I guess it's his dad is, so it's

1195
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 6: not really I.

1196
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 5: Don't even know he's from kubi X Tree.

1197
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 6: Then I guess.

1198
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 5: Literally physically he is.

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00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 8: Keep sharing.

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00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 2: Yes, how does that work exactly? How did the tree start?

1201
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 7: Yes, well, Jerry Jones can tell you, yeah, he kind

1202
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 7: of is the.

1203
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 4: Colleen.

1204
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 5: If you're a Kubiak, you'd be calling with a K weird,

1205
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 5: super weird.

1206
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 7: Never it's never been done. I don't think I've never

1207
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 7: seen a colleen with a K.

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00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak is sort of the most direct uh baby

1209
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: possible because because he really because he really started with

1210
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: his dad, and then the organization that his dad won

1211
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl four kind of picked him up after that,

1212
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: and then when he needed a better job, Kyle Shanahan

1213
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: gave it to him, because Kyle Shanahan got his first

1214
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: job from his dad.

1215
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: And now here he is in Seattle, venturing out on

1216
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: his own.

1217
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 8: I think there's another Kubiak still on the forty nine ers. Yep,

1218
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 8: Clay Kubiak is still on the nine ers stat too.

1219
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 6: By the way, I'm looking at photo from the same TREEA.

1220
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.

1221
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 2: If you want to hear more about the kettle of Kubiak.

1222
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 5: Wait, wait, wait, come to the no.

1223
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 4: I have one more thing for MENA Mina is Nick's

1224
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 4: family hitting you up for a ton of tickets?

1225
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 7: For the Eagles.

1226
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 6: No, but this is the thing that we can maybe

1227
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 6: end here that I wanted to say about Colleen, which

1228
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 6: is I love doing podcasts with her because.

1229
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 5: This is by far the most credibility I get with

1230
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 5: my in loss.

1231
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 6: Is when I do anything, Like most people, Yeah, like

1232
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 6: usually the number one thing I get asked about were

1233
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 6: he Andespans?

1234
00:55:58,840 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 5: Do you know Stephen A. Smith?

1235
00:55:59,840 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 4: Right?

1236
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 6: I'm telling you though, if it's people from Philadelphia, do

1237
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 6: you know Colleen Wolf? Does she smell?

1238
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 5: Goodness?

1239
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 6: My in laws were like crazy like silver linings playbook style.

1240
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 6: Eagles fans talk about Colleen.

1241
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 2: Like like, oh, no, I love they knew her.

1242
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 6: They're like, she's come up, so there's they're like, legitimately

1243
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 6: so proud of you because you like came up through

1244
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 6: the local Philly anyway, so they're going to be so impressed.

1245
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 5: There's they think it's so cool that.

1246
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 9: I know you.

1247
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 7: That's really funny.

1248
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 4: And the fact that we lived in the same neighborhood

1249
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 4: growing up, I did, and Nick and her his family

1250
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 4: lived in the same exact like development. So yeah, kind

1251
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 4: of a small world, weird, right, It is a small

1252
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 4: I love.

1253
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, Colleen is hosting Colleen's hosting me to tell them

1254
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 8: she's hosting the Super Bowl.

1255
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 5: Like the Super Bowl Super I'm going to tell them.

1256
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say, but don't watch you opening day because

1257
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 6: there's a more important show going on, and you can

1258
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 6: watch it because you're in Philadelphia.

1259
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 5: If you're in LA, you're in La. Come people Live podcasts.

1260
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 5: Screw Colleen Wolf perfect.

1261
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 2: Yes, the show is I Love your in laws.

1262
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 7: Tell them I said Hi.

1263
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: Seven to nine pm on Monday, February third, the day

1264
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: before we get on a flight to go down to

1265
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: New Orleans. Doors open at six point thirty. And yes,

1266
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, all proceeds from the ticket price will

1267
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: go to support the Red Cross California Wildlife Disaster relief.

1268
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 2: I can't wait.

1269
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: Is going to be really fun, Mina. What are we

1270
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: gonna do? Well, we'll have to talk about it. We're

1271
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: gonna make it great.

1272
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 6: Get probably get into some football. I suspect that'll be

1273
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 6: a dabble.

1274
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: That's a good fun.

1275
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: Mina chimes everyone and check out her podcast, The Minachimes

1276
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: Show featuring Lana We NFL Live Say.

1277
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 6: Goodbye in the manner of Liam Combe. Dude, you're so

1278
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 6: creeped out right now right, You're so creeped out.

1279
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: I am creeping out. It's the movement that does it.

1280
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: The great mina times we will wrap up our show.

1281
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna actually tie a few loose ends here, the

1282
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: three of us all right after. We're gonna talk like

1283
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna get yep. I am surprising you a little bit.

1284
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: We're going to talk the coordinators just to like, I

1285
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: just feel weird that we haven't mentioned Robert Salad is

1286
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: back with the forty nine ers. That's weirdly, of all

1287
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: these moves, maybe the one that is going to have

1288
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: the most impact.

1289
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 6: I like it.

1290
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: Who wins the Super Bowl next year?

1291
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: Like of all these like, can't you imagine this time

1292
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: next year being like sala returned to the forty nine

1293
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: ers and here they are back in the big game,

1294
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: like they figured it all out.

1295
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: Like I can totally see that happening. That's kind of

1296
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: a massive move for them.

1297
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 7: I think the players too, are like really excited about it.

1298
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're going to be fired up. I am excited

1299
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 8: about this because three years after this move has been made,

1300
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 8: something new will have been formed or shaped between the

1301
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 8: battles that practice. Those two famously got into between Kyle's

1302
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 8: offense and Bob Sola's defense, and like the clashes and

1303
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 8: the yelling and then the brainstorming that happened after that,

1304
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 8: like is legendary and new things will come out of that.

1305
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 8: I think that is what Kyle Shanahan's most looking for,

1306
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 8: if you sort of read the tea leaves in San

1307
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 8: Francisco right now, is new ideas and re finding that

1308
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 8: person who helped set you on a course with some

1309
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 8: new ideas.

1310
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: He sucked all the life out of Mike McDaniel and

1311
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: he's gone, and all you know, Robert Salah and he's

1312
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: got Shanahan.

1313
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 5: Horcruxy have been spread.

1314
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 2: He has been there a while.

1315
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,479
Speaker 1: I was thinking about Kyle Shanahan when Mina said about

1316
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: the message getting stale, maybe a little bit for Pete

1317
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: Carroll it is a bit of a danger peep. Bill

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Speaker 1: Barcels always thought it was like eight years.

1319
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 2: I thought was his number.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was ten years, But there is it's hard

1321
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: to like reinvent yourself as you go, and that's that's

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Speaker 1: what they're trying to.

1323
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Speaker 7: There's a cycle.

1324
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Speaker 8: Who knows if any of us will even be alive

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Speaker 8: on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's something I would say, maybe they'll hire his

1327
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: old friend Bobby Slowick because we hadn't mentioned that he

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01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: was let go by the Texans. Not a surprising move

1329
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: to me based on what they looked like on paper,

1330
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: but is surprising in the sense that Demiko Ryans is

1331
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Speaker 1: going to be a third year head coach and his

1332
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: team has made the divisional round back to back years,

1333
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: and so you don't want to celebrate a firing. But

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Speaker 1: I think that showed something from Jamiico Ryans, and I

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01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: think it made sense. So we'll see who's going to

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Speaker 1: be the option there. The Bears announced that their offensive

1337
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: coordinator is going to be a man by the name

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01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: of Declan Doyle, who Ben Johnson spent time with in

1339
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: New Orleans in Sean Payton's staff, and Sean Payton took

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Speaker 1: him to Denver.

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01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 7: He straight from Dublin.

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01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: This marriage, I don't think because his dad was a

1343
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: strength coach at Iowa who ran into some controversy and

1344
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: was fired for making racist comments. When Urban Meyer tried

1345
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: to hire him Jacksonville, and I was like, oh wow,

1346
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: but that's his dad. It's not Declan. For Ben Johnson

1347
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: to choose this guy and say that's the guy I

1348
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: want running eight.

1349
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,919
Speaker 8: Years old too. He was born in nineteen ninety six.

1350
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 8: My mask's probably off, but it's crazy how younger some

1351
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 8: of these coordinators are going to just.

1352
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 7: Keep getting younger and younger, and we keep.

1353
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: Paging Denver staff keeps getting picked apart like some position coaches.

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01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: That's that's another one, Darrenmuji. I believe it is Moji.

1355
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: The GM of the Jets was from Denver as well,

1356
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: so Sean Payton. That's a that's a credit to him.

1357
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: And then who am I forgetting here? I think that's

1358
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: I think you got them all.

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01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 2: I think we're good. I think we're good.

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01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, offensive coordinators. We'll announce them as they are official.

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01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 8: We've talked about these guys enough. Now we have to

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01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 8: actually see them.

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01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: Yes, the apparently this really young guy, Tanner Engstrom is

1365
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: supposed to be Aaron Glenn's offensive coordinator with the Jets,

1366
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: but that's not official yet.

1367
01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 2: We'll see. He is the favorite.

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01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: People thought he was going to get the job with

1369
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: the Lions, and Dan Campbell decided to go with John Morton.

1370
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: That was who I was thinking of, who is fifty

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01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: five years old, not a young gun, and has been

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01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: around a lot and was also on that Denver staff.

1373
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 7: So like, is ck Cayley in the mix too for

1374
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator for the Jets?

1375
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're in it there.

1376
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: Supposedly the reports this guy Tenner Engstrom, who's very young

1377
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: and I think maybe was surprised.

1378
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 2: People were surprised that he didn't get the job.

1379
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 8: And to my knowledge, Jets haven't requested Kaylee yet as

1380
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 8: of this, you know, as of yesterday when I looked

1381
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 8: into it, but this was it doesn't mean it's not coming.

1382
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 8: But McVeigh was noting publicly that they haven't sent that

1383
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 8: over yet. But you wanted to talk about Dennis Allen, right, yes, yes,

1384
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 8: who That's what I was on my phone for, right

1385
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 8: in front of you, rudely just now, just trying to

1386
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 8: make sure we got that's a.

1387
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Speaker 2: Good staff there.

1388
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: I think Ben Johnson, I think he had an idea

1389
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: of what he was going to do and he put

1390
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: it together. I think Dennis Allen can be a good

1391
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator again in the NFL. I wanted to mention

1392
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: something that started way back at the beginning of the

1393
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: season and we made a promise to our listeners when

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01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,439
Speaker 1: we did the Tiny Table that we would circle back

1395
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: at the end of the year and we would decide

1396
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: who had the best picks. And it was supposed to

1397
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: be a committee of people. I think only one of

1398
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: those people that we announced as part of the committee

1399
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: is sitting back there right now.

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01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 2: That's Eric Roberts.

1401
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: So Eric Roberts is going to decide who won the

1402
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: tiny Table competition of twenty twenty five. I'm surprising everyone here.

1403
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: I meant to go over the over unders with Mina,

1404
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: but we were running long.

1405
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 3: It's not we've made eye contact something ready, and I'm like,

1406
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 3: I don't know enough, none of us do.

1407
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 2: Here are our picks.

1408
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you my take on it before

1409
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: we even start. We all were pretty mixed like it.

1410
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: It's going to be tough for you to pick, Eric.

1411
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: Some good ones had some bad ones. My mine were

1412
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: that the Seahawks will win the division and that the

1413
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys will collapse.

1414
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 2: Those are mine.

1415
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: Jordan's were the Texans are going to the Super Bowl

1416
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: and a starting quarterback will get traded before the deadline.

1417
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: Colleen had some vague one, a vague one to start

1418
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: which was that perfect, but it was so right. The

1419
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: Bills will run the football well all year long and

1420
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,959
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence will have a career best season. It didn't

1421
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: go to We also had a speed Round. By the way,

1422
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: I said, Kyler Murray will get some MVP votes. That's

1423
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: not going to happen, and that Chris o' lobby was

1424
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: gonna have a monster season.

1425
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 2: That's not gonna have. That didn't happen because of injuries.

1426
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: Jordan had Max Crosby winning Defensive Player of the Year,

1427
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: not so much Jackson Smith and Jigba being the number

1428
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: one receiver in Seattle. And then the Colleen had the

1429
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: Falcons winning the division and the AFC South getting three

1430
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: teams into the playoffs.

1431
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 7: Sooo, all right, the Speed Round. I don't think I

1432
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 7: really prepared for that one.

1433
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,479
Speaker 8: You you skimmed right over this too. We've texted about

1434
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 8: this all year.

1435
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 7: Greg.

1436
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 8: Is that your one of your big regrets ye season

1437
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 8: is that you were so right about the Cowboys, but

1438
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 8: you moved off your tips the second week.

1439
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I guess after they won big in

1440
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: Week one and the second week of the show, I

1441
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: was like, I guess I was wrong about my tiny table.

1442
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: Now I was right. You got to stick with it.

1443
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, we weren't we didn't exactly cover ourselves

1444
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: in glory here, Eric, but you get to decide who

1445
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: is the winner, and the winner was supposed to get steaks.

1446
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 3: Yes, actual's what Jordan pointed out, will be the deciding

1447
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 3: factors that you were wishy washy about your Cowboys take

1448
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 3: and I want the Bills to win something this year.

1449
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,919
Speaker 2: Colleen's take the ball.

1450
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 9: Look at that.

1451
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 7: I didn't and I did not know that you would

1452
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 7: be the judge of this. I also forgot that this

1453
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 7: was a competition, So thank you. I am honored we

1454
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 7: saw that becoming speech.

1455
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: Anyone you'd like to know.

1456
01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 4: I love coming in here on Tuesdays. My see you

1457
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 4: next Tuesday. Crew has been awesome all season long. This

1458
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,919
Speaker 4: has been really fun this year. And I can't believe

1459
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 4: we're all going to New Orleans to watch the Eagles

1460
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 4: in the super Bowl.

1461
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 2: This is the last one, yeah, in the studio. So

1462
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 2: I'm glad we did it, and I'm glad you ended

1463
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 2: up a champion.

1464
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 7: I thank you.

1465
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 8: I'm glad we all sniffed out Greg's attempt at manipulating

1466
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 8: the contest time.

1467
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: Okay, since she's pushing me to it, I meant to

1468
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: mention the over under draft with Mina back in the day.

1469
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: But it just felt like that was such a nice

1470
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: vie that we went out on and I didn't want

1471
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: to bring that up awkwardly.

1472
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 2: It's a little awkward.

1473
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: He did any but I went four and oh for

1474
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: the and went undefeated for the third straight year.

1475
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 7: There he is.

1476
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 5: He just cannot help him.

1477
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 2: The Bills over.

1478
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: Nine and a half, I mean they had that early.

1479
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: The Bears under nine and a half nailed it. Forty

1480
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: nine Ers didn't even sniff. Eleven and a half got

1481
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: that under. The Texans came down to the very last

1482
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: week and Davis Mills got it done for me.

1483
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 2: Wooro.

1484
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: People are saying this is one of the most unbreakable

1485
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: records in sports, Colleen, because we've heard that we did

1486
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: this on the Around the NFL podcast as well. I'm

1487
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: just straight Ears undefeated. It's a total eleven and zero.

1488
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 8: I just want to say speech, I said that was

1489
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 8: your speech. I sent my stop watches to make sure

1490
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 8: that you and Colleen had equal time. You didn't have

1491
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 8: equal time. You had more time than I do.

1492
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 3: Want to give your son some credit. Oh that's right,

1493
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 3: Walker made picks too. How did his over unders go

1494
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 3: back and listened and you were going to you said

1495
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 3: that you were going to bring him into that over

1496
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 3: under show. But he went kind of chalk and just

1497
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 3: picked the overs for last year's championship game teams. Okay,

1498
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 3: and we talked a lot of tree talk here and

1499
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 3: your tree performed pretty well.

1500
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,959
Speaker 2: He went three and one live, who Wow, good job

1501
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: by Walker.

1502
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: He went over on the Chiefs Baltimore, the Lions, and

1503
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: the forty niners, all Daddy did their numbers to stop.

1504
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 5: Saying the word Daddy.

1505
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: Please, for the love of God, I've never been more

1506
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: proud play the music. He nailed three of those forty

1507
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: nine ers didn't come through with the Let's get out

1508
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: of here. Kevin Clark went three and one as well,

1509
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: with two and two with her picks, but she had

1510
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: a great first pick over Broncos by six wins. Yes,

1511
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: when we're circling our bets from the beginning of the season,

1512
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: when it's the last time for see you next Tuesday,

1513
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: you know football's back. Brom Locker