WEBVTT - S4 – 4: Sheep's Clothing

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<v Speaker 1>Welcomed Unobscured, a production of I Heart Radio and Aaron Minky.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a note before we begin. This episode includes discussion

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<v Speaker 1>of sensitive topics. Listener discretion is advised. Anna had met

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<v Speaker 1>Rasputin a few years before his fanatical follower Olga had

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<v Speaker 1>made the introduction, and in the year since, Anna had

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<v Speaker 1>frequently opened her home to Resputant and his zealous believers

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<v Speaker 1>as they gathered to pray and read the Bible. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it was Grigory's turn. He was going to host Anna

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<v Speaker 1>at his home in Pokrovsko. In fact, Alexander herself had

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<v Speaker 1>sent a whole party of women to stay with Grigory,

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<v Speaker 1>learned from him, and share his teaching with her. She

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to better understand how the man lived and the

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<v Speaker 1>weight of the things he taught, more than his few

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<v Speaker 1>visits to the palace had allowed. With the Empress behind it,

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<v Speaker 1>the trip gave Anna a thrill. Something told her this

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<v Speaker 1>was a turning point and that soon, like Olga, she

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<v Speaker 1>would be in rest Mutant's inner circle. But the closer

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<v Speaker 1>the trip came, the less certain she got that his

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<v Speaker 1>inner circle was where she wanted to be. She had

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<v Speaker 1>seen the way that Olga and his other followers treated him.

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<v Speaker 1>They threw themselves on him in rapture. They kissed his

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<v Speaker 1>feet with joy. Olga bundled up hairs from his beard

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<v Speaker 1>as sacred relics. Once Olga even said that Grigory was

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<v Speaker 1>transformed into Jesus Christ himself, Anna wasn't so sure. When

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<v Speaker 1>they arrived at away station between Siberia and the capital,

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<v Speaker 1>Gregory joined the group to escort them the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the way. To seat everyone, they split the party into

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<v Speaker 1>two different compartments. Three of the women made themselves comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>and waved to Grigory as he led Anna and another woman, Yelena,

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<v Speaker 1>to a different compartment, where he ushered them inside. So

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<v Speaker 1>as Anna settled herself into the train car beside Grigory

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<v Speaker 1>and Yelena, she had a task before her. It was

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<v Speaker 1>time to make up her mind about who this man

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<v Speaker 1>really was. Not to mention the whispers in the group

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<v Speaker 1>that spending time with Grigory would mean more attention from

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<v Speaker 1>the Empress for Anna, the trip would certainly clarify things,

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<v Speaker 1>because as it got later and the train rattled on

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<v Speaker 1>into darkness, Anna saw that Yelena was hanging on Grigory's

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<v Speaker 1>every word. She was in a state of religious ecstasy,

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<v Speaker 1>not Anna, though. In fact, she felt sleep coming on,

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<v Speaker 1>so she looked to the bunks in the sleeper car.

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<v Speaker 1>There were just two beds, and Anna settled herself onto

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<v Speaker 1>the lower one. Elena and Grigory followed her lead, but

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<v Speaker 1>they climbed into the upper bunk together. For Anna, the

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<v Speaker 1>red flags were raised and she spoke up too. She

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<v Speaker 1>called up that what they were doing wasn't right. Yelena

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<v Speaker 1>should come down, she said, and share the lower bunk

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<v Speaker 1>with her, but Yelena refused. Despite how incredibly uncomfortable she

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<v Speaker 1>had gotten, Anna was eventually lulled to sleep by the

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<v Speaker 1>rocky of the train, until that is, something woke her

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<v Speaker 1>up in the darkness, something scratchy against the skin of

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<v Speaker 1>her face. It took her a moment to realize what

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<v Speaker 1>it was, a man's beard. Shocked, Anna rolled off the

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<v Speaker 1>bunk and spun around. There was Grigory rasputin on her bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Anna was ready to defend herself. She screamed a furious

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<v Speaker 1>question at him. If he was such a holy man,

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<v Speaker 1>how could he possibly justify what he was doing? He

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<v Speaker 1>said nothing in silence. He simply crawled back up onto

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<v Speaker 1>the top bunk where Yelena lay waiting. Anna stayed alert

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the night. In the morning, Yelena gave

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<v Speaker 1>Anna a talking to. She said Resputant was only trying

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<v Speaker 1>to commune with her spirit. It was a divine act,

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<v Speaker 1>she said. But Anna knew a covering lie when she

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<v Speaker 1>heard one. There was nothing holy or divine about what

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<v Speaker 1>Grigory had tried to do. For the rest of the trip,

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<v Speaker 1>Anna kept her eye on him, and she paid for

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<v Speaker 1>it too. When they got to his home in Siberia,

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<v Speaker 1>he brought them all inside, but throughout the week he

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<v Speaker 1>treated Anna as the butt of a joke. He mocked

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<v Speaker 1>her and whispered about her to the other women in

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<v Speaker 1>the group. But this meant that Anna saw what the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of them missed. Be side I from the locals.

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<v Speaker 1>As they went past the way, Grigory used his charm

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<v Speaker 1>to disarm the people around him. He even tried it

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<v Speaker 1>against her. On the train back, he tried again to

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<v Speaker 1>close in on her for a kiss, but she was ready.

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<v Speaker 1>It was her fist that met him. After that, Rasputin

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<v Speaker 1>kept his distance. Anna had his number. Though Rasputin wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a holy man, he was a fraud. That's what She

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<v Speaker 1>told Alexandra she was grateful that the Empress had sponsored

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<v Speaker 1>the trip, but Alexandra shouldn't waste any more time or

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<v Speaker 1>attention on a man who wasn't trustworthy. If only Alexandra

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<v Speaker 1>had listened, The other women didn't agree, though, and that

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<v Speaker 1>put Alexandra at ease. She ignored Anna's testimony. After all

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<v Speaker 1>other holy men vouched for Resputin, Alexandra thought maybe Anna

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<v Speaker 1>just wasn't able to grasp the saintly innocence of simple

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<v Speaker 1>folk like the Siberian peasant Gregory. I can only imagine

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<v Speaker 1>how frustrating it was for Anna. Resputant was hardly an

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<v Speaker 1>innocent rustic. There's no doubt that Anna was rightly furious

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<v Speaker 1>with him and with Alexandra for ignoring her. She must

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<v Speaker 1>have wondered if he could somehow be sidelined in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of someone else who wouldn't use his place in Alexandra's

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<v Speaker 1>affections to get his claws into the women around her.

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<v Speaker 1>After all, Resputen wasn't the only one making a play

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<v Speaker 1>for royal favorite. There were other men who might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to jostle him out of the palace. Take, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>the man who would first befriend Resputant and then bedevil him.

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<v Speaker 1>The man who came to be known as the Mad Monk.

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<v Speaker 1>This is unobscured. I'm Aaron Mankie, the Mad Monk. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a name he embraced, he relished it, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>later years when he was trying to sell his life story.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was some truth to it, some violent truth.

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<v Speaker 1>He was born Sergei Trofanov, but he would come to

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<v Speaker 1>be known as the Monk Iliador, and he was a

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<v Speaker 1>man who would buy for power in the royal court

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<v Speaker 1>of the Romanovs as they slid through the shadows of

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<v Speaker 1>history towards their end. And if we had to credit

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<v Speaker 1>just one person for the myths and legends that make

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<v Speaker 1>the true history of Grigory Rasputin so difficult to nail down,

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<v Speaker 1>that person is Iliador, first one of Resputant's most ardent

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<v Speaker 1>friends and then his most bloodthirsty foe. Born in a

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<v Speaker 1>Cossack fanly in southern Russia, Eliodor was the son of

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<v Speaker 1>a deacon and set on a path into the church

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<v Speaker 1>from his earliest days. He entered church training in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>oh one, just a year before he would meet the

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<v Speaker 1>wandering Rasputant. Like grigory. Eliodor found that he had a

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<v Speaker 1>powerful way with words. But while Rasputin's quiet intensity gave

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<v Speaker 1>him power in drawing rooms in prayer circles, Eliodora's booming

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<v Speaker 1>voice was born for the public square. His gift was oratory,

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<v Speaker 1>and soon he made the crowds who would gather to

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<v Speaker 1>hear him into a resounding instrument. His outlook and Rasputants

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<v Speaker 1>were aligned. What did he teach about when he made

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<v Speaker 1>his first impression? The divine power of the czar, the

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<v Speaker 1>holiness of Russia, the need for the people of the

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<v Speaker 1>empire to stand up and be counted. Here's historian Douglas

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<v Speaker 1>Smith to tell us more. Eliodorus a fascinating and utterly

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre character. He's one of these figures you really couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>make up even if you tried. He was again one

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<v Speaker 1>of these sort of popular preachers who, unlike Resputant, does

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<v Speaker 1>go to theological seminary and does get an actual training

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<v Speaker 1>in theology and religion and becomes an an Orthodox priest.

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<v Speaker 1>As a preacher, Eliador counted himself a doctor to a

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<v Speaker 1>sick empire, but his diagnosis was about as toxic as

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<v Speaker 1>any illness could have been, because While Eliador was a

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<v Speaker 1>man of intense ambition, he was also an extremist and

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<v Speaker 1>a deeply racist one. He pinned Russia's problems on his

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish neighbors, and he wasn't alone. The undercurrents of anti

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<v Speaker 1>Semitism were strong in Russian culture, and he stirred them

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<v Speaker 1>up across the Empire, growing more and more extreme as

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<v Speaker 1>he went. Soon enough, Eliodora was blaming the changes in

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<v Speaker 1>the Russian state on Russian Jews, and he said it

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<v Speaker 1>was his support of the Empire that made him criticize

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<v Speaker 1>the Czar. When Nicholas go of autocratic rule and established

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<v Speaker 1>the new Parliament in nineteen o five, Eliodora said the

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<v Speaker 1>only way to stand up for the Czar was to

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<v Speaker 1>stand up to him the Czar, Faith and fatherland where

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<v Speaker 1>Eliodora's rallying cries, but he turned that into a recruiting

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<v Speaker 1>tool for the violent nationalist group known as the Black Hundreds.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted to decide who was and wasn't Russian, and

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<v Speaker 1>to kill or sideline anyone who didn't meet their definition.

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<v Speaker 1>But it didn't take long to mutate from nationalist vigilantes

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<v Speaker 1>into right wing terrorists. Eliodora snared the racist zeal of

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<v Speaker 1>the Black Hundreds and whipped it into a frenzy, and

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<v Speaker 1>he began to preach merciless racist violence. He hated all

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<v Speaker 1>the influences coming into Russia from Europe, and he believed

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<v Speaker 1>that bloodshed was the only way to beat Russia back

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<v Speaker 1>into submission. And they followed through. His right wing terrorists

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<v Speaker 1>gunned down a Jewish member of the new Parliament one

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<v Speaker 1>evening while he was walking with his daughter. Eliodor sheltered

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<v Speaker 1>the assassins right inside his monastery. The Eleiodor's role was noticed,

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<v Speaker 1>but hardly punished. Yes, he was pushed out of the

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<v Speaker 1>church academy where he taught, but easily went to another

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<v Speaker 1>until he was fired again. That is, he bounced around

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<v Speaker 1>until he finally landed under the supervision of a like

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<v Speaker 1>minded priest who supported Eliodora's calls for violence. Here's Douglas

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<v Speaker 1>Smith again. He is the nastiest of anti semites. Um

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<v Speaker 1>is constantly um denouncing Jews as an evil influence as

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<v Speaker 1>the destroyers of the Russian Orthodox people. Denounces Nicholas and

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<v Speaker 1>his government for not doing more to come down hard

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<v Speaker 1>on the Jews and the Empire. He denounces intellectuals he

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<v Speaker 1>had denounces socialists and liberals and the intelligentsia and what

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<v Speaker 1>have you. And he he establishes the fairly large following

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<v Speaker 1>in the city of sadits in Uh, quite a ways

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<v Speaker 1>outside the capital. But he becomes a thorn in the

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<v Speaker 1>side of the regime because he's he's constantly denouncing it

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<v Speaker 1>and calling for violence um and early on respute, and

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<v Speaker 1>is drawn to Eliador and another one of these sort

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<v Speaker 1>of right wing priests by the name of germ Again,

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<v Speaker 1>and the three of them Krum becomes sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>trike threesome of these um upstart preachers, if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, this new priest, germ Again, was such a

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<v Speaker 1>supporter of the Black Hundreds and their violent politics that

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<v Speaker 1>when they battled with police in the streets during the

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<v Speaker 1>summer of nineteen o eight, germ Agin used the power

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<v Speaker 1>of the church to shelter Eliodor from consequences. But Elodor's

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<v Speaker 1>most powerful ally was the man with the ear of

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<v Speaker 1>the Empress, Grigory Rasputin. In fact, when it seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>Eliodor might face consequences for his role in provoking violent

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<v Speaker 1>terrorism and anti Semitic violence, gregg Or arranged a private

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<v Speaker 1>meeting between Eliador and Alexandra. Not that it was an

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<v Speaker 1>easy meeting. In fact, it seems like Alexandra had her

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<v Speaker 1>own impression to make. When she sat down with a

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<v Speaker 1>mad monk. She wasn't just going to bow to his teaching.

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<v Speaker 1>She commanded him to stop attacking the tsar's ministers, and

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<v Speaker 1>what's more, he needed to reign in his wild provocations.

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<v Speaker 1>No more preaching violence. It needed to stop. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>if Eliodora is to be believed, she even told them

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<v Speaker 1>that he needed a new spiritual adviser, someone who would

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<v Speaker 1>curb his wild teaching and bring him back onto the

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<v Speaker 1>strait and narrow. But maybe you can see where this

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<v Speaker 1>is going. The person Alexandra told him to follow was

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<v Speaker 1>none other than Rasputin himself. It's not clear exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>she hoped would happen, whether Nicholas and Alexandra were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get Rasputin to bring the mad monk to heal,

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<v Speaker 1>or whether Rasputin was trying to bring Alexandra under the

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<v Speaker 1>influence of a violent nationalist zealot. There's one thing that's clear.

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<v Speaker 1>In the midst of a political firestorm, the Empress had

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<v Speaker 1>looked to Grigory Resputin for answers, and it was only

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning. He came and went unannounced. In fact, one

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<v Speaker 1>day in August of nineteen o eight, Nicholas arrived home

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<v Speaker 1>and was surprised to find Grigory talking with Alexandra. Not

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<v Speaker 1>that this troubled the Czar. No, he sat down and

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<v Speaker 1>joined them, and he wrote in his diary that he

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<v Speaker 1>talked for another half hour. But the fact that Resputin

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<v Speaker 1>and Alexandra were meeting alone shows us just how trusted

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<v Speaker 1>Resputin had become, and how thoroughly Alexandra had dismissed any

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<v Speaker 1>concerns about rest Sputan's reputation and how it might make

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<v Speaker 1>her look. After all, she was the Empress. Why should

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<v Speaker 1>she care what other people were saying, especially when he

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<v Speaker 1>offered the family something they so deeply desired. One high

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<v Speaker 1>ranking naval officer who served on the Romanov's imperial yacht

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<v Speaker 1>would later remember that one day, when he was chatting

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<v Speaker 1>with Alexandra, their conversation turned to spiritual city and the church.

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<v Speaker 1>As they talked, the Empress became passionate, and the things

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<v Speaker 1>she said stuck with him. Alexander told him that there

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<v Speaker 1>were people whose prayers were particularly powerful, especially people who

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<v Speaker 1>lived lives of strict holiness, and she insisted to him

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<v Speaker 1>that Grigory Rasputin was one of these men. After all,

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't Alexander seen the power of his prayers when her

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<v Speaker 1>little son was suffering so deeply? It seems she had

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<v Speaker 1>been mulling over that experience, and that had drawn some

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<v Speaker 1>conclusions about the kind of man Resputant was. In looking

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<v Speaker 1>to the Bible itself, she found the words pray for

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<v Speaker 1>one another, that you may be healed. The prayers of

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<v Speaker 1>a righteous man are powerful. In Alexander's eyes, Gregory's power

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<v Speaker 1>of healing and his righteousness went hand in hand. If

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<v Speaker 1>he could heal, then he was also righteous. It was

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<v Speaker 1>as simple as that. But it wasn't just the Romanovs

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<v Speaker 1>who were becoming more convinced of rest Sputant. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>if we only think about Resputin as a counselor for

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas and all Xandra during those days, we get the

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<v Speaker 1>man wrong. Here's historian Helen Rappaport to tell us more so,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing with Rasputin was, initially he was a wise

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<v Speaker 1>girl to the family and a wise counselor, and that

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<v Speaker 1>really was a more important function. Almost someone she did

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<v Speaker 1>for alex say, because people have this idea that Rasputin

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<v Speaker 1>was in and out the back door and up the

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<v Speaker 1>stairs and into the Alexander Palace every five minutes, ingratiating

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<v Speaker 1>himself and muttering prayers over Alexey. And that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>He only came when he was invited. He didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>that many visits to the wrong and offs at the

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander Palace, and he often went long periods not seeing

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<v Speaker 1>the family or communicated by telephone with them or by

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<v Speaker 1>letter or telegram. In fact, Grigory was spending more and

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<v Speaker 1>more time among the other wealthy and powerful Russian families.

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<v Speaker 1>House after house, an aristocrat after aristocrat opened their doors

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<v Speaker 1>for him. Let's have historian Douglas Smith tell us more.

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<v Speaker 1>He makes his way from palace to palace, going to

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<v Speaker 1>various aristocratic salons, and these men and women within the

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<v Speaker 1>upper echelons of Russian society are fascinated by these peasant

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<v Speaker 1>holy men, if you will, It's like they're being put

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<v Speaker 1>in touch with creatures from another planet. It's a world

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<v Speaker 1>that they, being part of the westernized urban elite, have

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<v Speaker 1>no real contact with. They don't go to Siberia they

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<v Speaker 1>don't go to peasant huts, and so it it allows

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<v Speaker 1>them to enter this whole world of a Russian society

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<v Speaker 1>from which they're cut off, but which holds great fascination

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<v Speaker 1>for them. And here's the thing, some of what we

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<v Speaker 1>know about resputants teaching actually sounds like good advice. When

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<v Speaker 1>he stepped into these crowded and rowdy salons and got

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<v Speaker 1>to know the wealthy families who were partying their way

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<v Speaker 1>through a period of revolution, Rasputin didn't stay silent. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>he often gave spiritual advice that was simple, practical and

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact. Yes, go to church, but after a service,

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<v Speaker 1>go for a long walk, take a day and get

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<v Speaker 1>as far away from the city as you can. Become

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<v Speaker 1>aware of your smallness and let the pride and vanity

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<v Speaker 1>of your wealth and position of power be wiped away.

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<v Speaker 1>Find God in the world where you are, be humble,

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<v Speaker 1>field tenderness, truly connect with the world around you, rather

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<v Speaker 1>than hiding behind your wealth and power and privilege. He

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<v Speaker 1>often said that his new followers needed to give up

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<v Speaker 1>the glorification of their own passions and instead be of

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<v Speaker 1>service to God. If Grigory Resputant was the only person

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<v Speaker 1>giving advice like this to the families of the princes

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<v Speaker 1>and grand dukes, I'm sure it would have felt like

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<v Speaker 1>a breath of fresh air. In fact, it goes a

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<v Speaker 1>long way to describing resputants charm on when the elites

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<v Speaker 1>in the capital, he talked to everyone informally, He ate

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<v Speaker 1>simple meals. He didn't have even the basic social graces

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<v Speaker 1>that were expected in their circles, and he knew that

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<v Speaker 1>from the beginning that his directness, his rudeness, was part

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<v Speaker 1>of what attracted him to people, and he made sure

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<v Speaker 1>to hold onto it, because, as we know, that attraction

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<v Speaker 1>to Resputin was powerful. One follower of his, Nikolai Jevakov,

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<v Speaker 1>remembered just how much the people let Restputant's prayer meetings

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<v Speaker 1>thirsted to hear what he would say. Even when Gregory

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<v Speaker 1>hardly talked at all, his fanatical admirers tried to read

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<v Speaker 1>the secret meanings behind every word and phrase They trembled

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<v Speaker 1>in his presence, even though Jevakov himself was only a

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<v Speaker 1>minor prince and a powerful official in the Russian Church.

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<v Speaker 1>This kind of reaction was new. Once, when Jevakov joined

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<v Speaker 1>a prayer meeting with Restputant, he watched Olga trembling in

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<v Speaker 1>a corner, screaming out he's a saint, He's a saint,

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<v Speaker 1>until Resputin himself got annoyed and told her to be quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't just these over the top celebrations of

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<v Speaker 1>grigory that made him uncomfortable. There were other things said

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<v Speaker 1>about him too, things he was far less able to control.

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<v Speaker 1>All it was inevitable, really, As Rasputin became more comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded by luxury and truly took a place at court,

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<v Speaker 1>he would also begin to play a role in the

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<v Speaker 1>central drama of court life, the game of whispers. And

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<v Speaker 1>as we know with Gregory, there was plenty to whisper about,

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<v Speaker 1>even if the Empress had already decided that every story

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't like was unfounded slander. In fact, the more

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<v Speaker 1>people who got to know Resputin, the more stories they

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<v Speaker 1>were to tell. If Resputin had a host of followers

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<v Speaker 1>who felt the allure of his teaching about love and

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<v Speaker 1>connection and perhaps even bought into his way of talking

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<v Speaker 1>about God, there were plenty of others who saw through

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<v Speaker 1>his game. After all, they saw just how much he

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<v Speaker 1>was enjoying his new life as a spiritual adviser to

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<v Speaker 1>the rich and powerful. As historian Helen Rappaport says, Gregory

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<v Speaker 1>Resputen was what you might call an opportunist. He became

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<v Speaker 1>very fashionable, and all these society ladies folk ground to

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<v Speaker 1>him and their photographs of him sitting surrounded by admiring women,

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<v Speaker 1>and they brought in gifts, and they gave him beautiful clothes,

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<v Speaker 1>and they fed him and flattered him. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>in that sense he was an opportunist. You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody wanted to give him money or take him out

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<v Speaker 1>for a good dinner, he was more than happy to oblige.

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<v Speaker 1>So he did. He did exploit the fascination there was

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<v Speaker 1>for him initially in Saint Petersburg, and and was wined

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<v Speaker 1>and dined and you know, very well looked after and

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<v Speaker 1>entertained and lived well on it for a while. They

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<v Speaker 1>brought in curious seekers, yes, but the other stories wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>go away either, the stories that let everyone know how

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<v Speaker 1>he treated the women around him. Take the conversation that

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<v Speaker 1>arm and Jeffikov had one day had with one of

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandra's most senior ladies in waiting. She was the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of person who saw everything in the palace, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course she was usually known for her discretion, but she

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<v Speaker 1>was troubled, and somehow one day she found herself complaining

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<v Speaker 1>to this prince that there were some unusual comings and goings.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only was this Grigory rasputant fellow meeting often with

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<v Speaker 1>the Empress, but when he arrived, he was let in

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<v Speaker 1>the back door so as to keep his visits off

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<v Speaker 1>the official guest books. Or at least this is the

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<v Speaker 1>story as Jebikov would later tell it. He says the

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<v Speaker 1>story startled him not because the Empress was talking off

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<v Speaker 1>the record with her spiritual adviser, but most of all

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<v Speaker 1>because her lady in waiting was telling stories about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He warned her that even telling someone like him, a

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<v Speaker 1>church official, was dangerous. She was talking about the private

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual life of the Empress, and at a time when

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<v Speaker 1>the Romanov dynasty was on shaky ground too, she had

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<v Speaker 1>better keep her complaints like these to herself. In the future,

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<v Speaker 1>she risked feeding suspicion of the monarchy itself. Whatever else

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<v Speaker 1>might be threatening the royal family, gossip was the first

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<v Speaker 1>and the worst danger to the throne. Looking back, he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't have been more right, Even though Jevikov probably did

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<v Speaker 1>not realize just how dangerous these rumors about respute and

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<v Speaker 1>really were. Who could blame him. Nicholas and Alexander themselves

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<v Speaker 1>insisted that their meetings with their spiritual adviser were no

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<v Speaker 1>one's business. They believed that they were simply between themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>Grigory and God. But that's where they could not have

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<v Speaker 1>been more wrong. If only the warning from Nicholas's mother

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<v Speaker 1>had continued to echo in his mind. Remember who you

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<v Speaker 1>are for the czar, She had told him, there is

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<v Speaker 1>no private life. Every personal connection, every friendship, every choice

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<v Speaker 1>is made under the weight of imperial rule. She tried

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<v Speaker 1>to make her son understand that famous truism of monarchy,

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<v Speaker 1>heavy is the head that wears the crown. But somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>despite being raised in the royal courts of Europe, neither

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandra nor Nicholas took that warning to heart. They insisted

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<v Speaker 1>that they be allowed the private life of a modern family.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, because nikol List was the czar, he commanded

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<v Speaker 1>it his privacy would be respected. But when has any

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<v Speaker 1>royal ever managed to silence the whispers in their court.

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<v Speaker 1>With the popularity of salon gatherings among the Russian aristocracy,

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<v Speaker 1>privacy and respect were just about the least likely things

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<v Speaker 1>I can imagine, and maids do talk. Soon enough, an

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<v Speaker 1>attendant of one of Alexandra's closest friends was passing around

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<v Speaker 1>the story that a mysterious peasant with a beastly appearance

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<v Speaker 1>was slipping in and out of the royal Palace and

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<v Speaker 1>he was meeting privately with Alexandra. That was enough for

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<v Speaker 1>the first wave of rumors, but the mill was hungry

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<v Speaker 1>for more, and every reseller of a tale wants to

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<v Speaker 1>add something a little juicy to the simple recitation. It

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<v Speaker 1>didn't take long for the beastly visitor to become a

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<v Speaker 1>beastly lover. And so it was in the salons of

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<v Speaker 1>the Russian aristocrats in St. Isaac Square in St. Petersburg

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<v Speaker 1>that the most enduring myth of Resputant was born. Resputant

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<v Speaker 1>was hanged, after all, she was a known revolutionary terrorist,

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Anna Resputant, that is, in February, she was executed in St. Petersburg.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Grigory, she was a peasant, and she had been

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<v Speaker 1>arrested and convicted for a failed assassination tempt on none

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<v Speaker 1>other than Nikolasha, the Czar's violent cousin and the husband

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<v Speaker 1>of their friends, Stana. It was no surprise to Nicholas

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<v Speaker 1>and Alexandra that the sharp end of the revolutionary energy

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<v Speaker 1>was pointed at them and the other Romanovs. That the

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<v Speaker 1>woman who tried to carry out such a plot shared

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<v Speaker 1>a name with their friend, Gregory, was a mere coincidence

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<v Speaker 1>to the imperial couple, of course, by now they had

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<v Speaker 1>known Gregory for years. But for the aristocrats circling up

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<v Speaker 1>in the capital, especially those just meeting Gregory for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, or worse, just hearing the rumors about him,

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<v Speaker 1>this was no coincidence at all. And it wasn't just

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 1>the society busybodies who smelled something fishy. The execution of

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 1>an arrest sputant put other more steely. I had observers

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<v Speaker 1>on Gregory's tail, the Okrana, Russia's secret police. Despite the

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<v Speaker 1>number of people living across Russia with that name, the

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<v Speaker 1>coincidence was too much for the head of the Okrana

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<v Speaker 1>to overlook, so he followed up on the matter. He

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<v Speaker 1>started by reaching out to investigators in Siberia. He may

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<v Speaker 1>have received reports on Gregory's predatory habits and maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>record of his youthful conflicts with the local magistrates. But

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<v Speaker 1>these weren't the only inquiries the Okrana made. They also

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<v Speaker 1>wanted something a little more current. They set some agents

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<v Speaker 1>to tail Gregory on his rounds through the city. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't find what they were looking for. No links to

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<v Speaker 1>in a no signs of connection to revolutionary terrorism. No.

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<v Speaker 1>Gregory's ties were on the opposite side to Eliador and

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<v Speaker 1>other violent assist monarchists who supported bloodshed in support of

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<v Speaker 1>the czar. But all the same, the Okrana agents found

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 1>plenty to dislike. The man wasn't a terrorist, but he

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<v Speaker 1>also wasn't a saint. Reports came back from their investigators

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<v Speaker 1>that Grigory's life wasn't so restrained after all. His days

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<v Speaker 1>of wandering, poverty and simplicity were left far far behind.

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<v Speaker 1>They took note of his seductions and the way he

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<v Speaker 1>used his teachings on love to pressure women for sex.

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<v Speaker 1>They watched him go from aristocratic salon to salon, getting

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<v Speaker 1>progressively drunker and leaving damning whispers in his wake. All

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<v Speaker 1>of that was bad enough, bad enough that the head

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<v Speaker 1>of the Okrana felt Grigory resput and shouldn't be as

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<v Speaker 1>he said within cannon shots of the Royal Palace. So

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<v Speaker 1>as the head of Russia's secret police, he decided to intervene.

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<v Speaker 1>He sent word up the chain. The report was far

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<v Speaker 1>from public knowledge, but in the end made it all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to the Prime Minister stoy Leapin, the man

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for bringing such a potentially delicate issue to the Czar.

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<v Speaker 1>When he did, though Nicholas didn't take it well. In essence,

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Nicholas told stoi Leapin to mind his own business. Grigory

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<v Speaker 1>Resputin wasn't a political issue, and he wasn't a matter

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 1>for the Okrana. He was a personal connection, Nicholas said.

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 1>If the thing he didn't say was how important Grigory

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>seemed to be protecting the health of their royal heir, Alexei, Well,

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Nicholas wasn't keen on the whole conversation to begin with.

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Stoylepin tried to tell Nicholas that this idea was naive.

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.919
<v Speaker 1>Everything and everyone the Tzar touched was political by nature.

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Every choice he made sent shock waves through the whole empire.

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Nicholas listened, and then he told stoy Lepin what he

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 1>wanted to hear. He would stop meeting with Grigory Resputin,

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Stoi Lepin left satisfied one more triumph in the service

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 1>of the Russian state. After all, soy Lepin might just

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 1>have been the Empire's most effective political force. The only

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>problem was Nicholas had no intention of keeping his word.

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Nothing changed. Here's Douglas Smith on what happened next. Apparently,

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Nicholas told Stileepen, I cannot get rid of respute and

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>because for me, it's better to have one Resputin than

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:18.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, another hundred hysterical fits from Alexandra if I'm

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 1>forced to get rid of this man, So you all

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:23.880
<v Speaker 1>will just need to find your way to deal with

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 1>his presence, with the fact that he's a part of

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:29.879
<v Speaker 1>our life, because I just can't get rid of him.

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 1>My wife needs him, the Empress needs him, and this

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:36.440
<v Speaker 1>is just how it's going to be. When Stoi Leepin

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>and the Ocrona realized that they had been played, they

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>took a risk. Unsatisfied that this was just the way

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>things would be, they decided to take matters into their

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>own hands. Together, Stoy Leapin and the secret police plotted

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>to capture Resputin and send him into exile. They weren't

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>bold enough to kill him, but their plan was to

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 1>forbid him from ever coming back to St. Petersburg. Even

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>that was a risk. They knew they might face the

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>wrath of the royal couple, but they sided it was

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>worth it. The Akrona agents swept the streets looking for Gregory,

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>but suddenly the party hopping holy man was nowhere to

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>be found, at least not by the police. It was

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 1>almost as if he had been tipped off to the plan,

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>and to be honest, he probably was. From what we know,

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 1>it seems Grigory started to travel by side streets, dodging

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>familiar routes and keeping his head down. He quit staying

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>at his home in the capitol and started lodging in

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>the private guest rooms of his followers. So for a

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>while he slipped the dragnet. Eventually, though, a group of

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>agents hunting Rasputant brought him to the ground. They staked

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>out a house where he was staying and surrounded him

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.719
<v Speaker 1>for three weeks. They watched the exits. Any moment they

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>would have him in their hands, or so they thought,

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>But then they got word from Siberia Grigory Resputant had

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>arrived home in Pokrovsko. Somehow his powerful friends had spirited

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 1>him away. Whatever powers they possessed, The Prime Minister in

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the head of Russia's secret police fell short of putting

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Gregory in chains. Resputin had won, and the secret police

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 1>had received the order to stand down, at least for now.

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>It turns out theo Fan was the first one to turn,

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 1>or maybe the second, but it was no small matter

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 1>that changed his mind. It took a brutal personal testimony

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>from one of Grigory's closest followers to finally shake the

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Our command Right's good opinion and get him to see

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Resputin for who he really was. That testimony came to

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 1>fi a Fan in the form of a letter from

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>a woman who had been with Grigory almost from the beginning,

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:39.239
<v Speaker 1>and what she described with shocking that is, if you

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>haven't been paying attention. She had been living with the

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Resputant family in Siberia, wanting to share life with the

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>preacher and learn his ways. She told Fia Fan she

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>had learned all too much at home, out of the

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>public eye and surrounded only by his family and his

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>most devoted followers. Grigory acted as his own sort of authoritarian.

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't just demanding but violent. He beat his wife,

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 1>his children, and all the women in his home. He

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 1>held them hostage, and when he had them alone, whether

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>in private train cars or in the privacy of his house,

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>he attacked them in every way he could think of.

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 1>It was a testimony of terror. Via Fan used to

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>dismiss the stories about resput And as the foibles of

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>a man that could be overlooked. After all, who among

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 1>God's flock didn't wander from the path of righteousness every

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>now and then. But this was so much more than that.

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Despite for a Fan's friendship with Grigory, and maybe because

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>of it, the weight of all the things he heard

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>about Grigory finally landed. The wool was pulled from his eyes.

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Theo Fan made a copy of the letter, he wrote

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>a note to Nicholas, wrapped it together with the original,

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and sent it to the leaders of the church and

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>to the Czar. Rasputin is a criminal in the religious

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and moral sense of the word, he wrote, and from

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>our vantage today that's perfectly clear. Historian Douglas Smith puts

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 1>it plainly central to who Rasputin was is he was

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>allege what gloss was needed. Grigory Rasputin was a predator.

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>It's the simple truth, and with that conviction now firmly

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>in Theophan's mind, he waited for the Emperor to do

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the right thing. He waited for far too long, because

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>even though Nicholas got the letter from Theophan, the man

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 1>who had served as his personal confessor, he did nothing

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>about it. He seemed to be confused about how theo

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>fan could say these things. After all, he had been

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>a friend of Rasputin and had even introduced him to

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>their household. It didn't seem to cross Nicholas's mind that

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>the accusations could be true. That's all the more infuriating

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>when it becomes clear that other women were saying the

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>same things, including some who were close to the royal family.

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Take the nursemaid of their son, Alexei. She cared for

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the boy and would have been around when Rasputin joined

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 1>the household to pray in the nursery. What exactly she

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>told Alexandra isn't clear, but we do know she told

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>the Empress that Grigory had attacked her, maybe more than once.

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Whatever it was she said, though Alexandra refused to believe it,

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>and to add one devastating wound to another. She told

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the maid never to bring it up again. I can

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>only imagine how much that hurt. It's the sort of

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>terrible injustice that's still all too common. Not that it

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>went unnoticed entirely. The other household staff in charge of

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>caring for the Romanov children started to make some noise.

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Soon enough, the mood around Rasputant's visits went from cordial

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 1>to cold. The governess of the four Princesses, for one,

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>wanted no part of Grigory's visits and wanted him to

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>have no part in the girl's lives. To her, he

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>was a scandal waiting to happen. The safety of the

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 1>girls was at risk, and so the reputation of the

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Romanov family was as well. And she was right that said,

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>this seems like the right time to note one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no evidence that Grigory were attacked any of the romanovs.

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>All the girls, Olga, Tatiana, Maria, Anastasia seemed to like

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and trust him. The official Okrana reports said that when

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 1>it came to the Romanov girls, he behaved properly and honorably.

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that overstates the case, but of course, the children

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 1>were never truly left alone with him. Here's Douglas Smith

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 1>once again. He was allowed access to the nursery where

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the children were being raised. He would help put them

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 1>to bed, he would rough house with them. It's quite startling,

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>and you really question the judgment of Nicholas and Alexandra

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>because there are maids present, there are nursemaids present, and

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 1>they see this and they're they're shocked by it, and

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:47.439
<v Speaker 1>they begin to then talk outside the palace and it's

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>and it starts to spread. Um Again, I don't think

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>there was ever anything untoward that happened at these moments.

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>They were always being watched by the parents or by nurses,

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 1>what have you. But it does become the sore for

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>gossip and rumors. We have letters that have survived that

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 1>rispute and wrote to the children and they're they're, you know,

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>they're they're very innocent and they're very you know, they

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>don't suggest anything nefarious. So there aren't signs that Gregory

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 1>hurt the children. After all. As a predator, Gregory was

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>an opportunist. It was his close connection to the Romanov

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>family that made him feel powerful and that gave him

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the chance to bring other vulnerable people into his clutches.

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Targeting the Romanov sisters would have put his hunting grounds

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 1>at risk, but there's no question that he was on

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>the prowl, and he set his clause into other members

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>of the household. But when the governess brought her concerns

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 1>directly to Nicholas, he once again turned a blind eye.

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 1>He said to her, I have survived all these difficult

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:50.880
<v Speaker 1>ears only by his prayers. Her answer was that he

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>had survived by the prayers from all of Russia, but

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>it didn't get through to him. Nicholas told her that

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:59.280
<v Speaker 1>he didn't believe the stories that she was telling him.

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 1>You're two pure of hearts, your majesty. She told him

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 1>to see the filth that surrounds you, but Nicholas refused

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 1>to be swayed. If he believed her, he said it

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 1>would make him an enemy of his own children, and

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that could never be true. Like Alexandra, he said that

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 1>that was the end of it and told her to

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>never bring it up again. And under the silence of

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 1>that command, the dark future of his entire family continued

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 1>to fester and grow. There's no doubt the gossip hurt

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Nicholas and Alexandra were frustrated that the other nobles at

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:38.359
<v Speaker 1>court wouldn't leave well enough alone. They wanted all those

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:42.359
<v Speaker 1>prime eyes to turn away, to look elsewhere, if only

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 1>they had been willing to do a little prying of

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 1>their own. Despite the about face from theo Fan, despite

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the investigations of the secret police and the urgent warnings

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>from the Prime Minister, they held onto their connection with Rasputin.

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>He continued visiting them, counseling them, and behind their backs,

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>using their relationship for his own purposes. If you think

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 1>back to an earlier episode, it's a bitter irony that

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 1>it was thea Fan himself who had convinced them not

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 1>to listen to the concerns. Remember, when he conducted his

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:14.879
<v Speaker 1>earlier investigation, he was too concerned with how it might

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 1>make him look if Rasputin's real life didn't match up

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 1>with his appearances. But by convincing the royal couple that

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 1>criticisms of the Siberian peasant preacher were just jealous, slander

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:27.959
<v Speaker 1>and backbiting, he helped them shut the door on any

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>legitimate criticism, even when it later came to himself. And

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 1>of course, the legitimate criticism was also being mixed in

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 1>with even more poisonous lies. Were the courtiers whispering that

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 1>Resputant and Alexandra were lovers. No one knew better than

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Alexandra how false that accusation was, and if that was false,

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 1>the rest must be false as well. And there's one

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>more layer going on all the way back to their

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:57.479
<v Speaker 1>French spiritualist, Mr. Philippe. Here's Douglas Smith one more time.

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>The more Respute and iss is criticized by powerful men

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 1>within the government, within the army, within the church, the

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>more Alexandra doubles down that she is not going to

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>let them take resputing away from her. I think she

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 1>always regretted the fact that she had allowed members of

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the Romano family and within the government circles to force

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:26.839
<v Speaker 1>her Nicholas to get rid of Monsieur Philippe, and she

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.400
<v Speaker 1>was she was determined that that was not going to

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>happen again. So Alexandra's arms were wrapped tightly around Grigory

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Rasputin and her maids, her friends, her confessor, or the

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 1>backbiters at court couldn't say anything that would change that,

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 1>no matter how right they were either about Rasputin or

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 1>about what it would mean for the Romanovs and the

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.320
<v Speaker 1>power of the throne when words started to get around.

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:54.319
<v Speaker 1>Because if Nicholas and Alexandra thought that gossip in aristocratic

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>circles hurt, they only had to wait until early March

0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen That's when the Oscow Gazette made sure that

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:06.839
<v Speaker 1>everyone in the Russian Empire knew the name of Gregory Rasputin.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for this week's episode of Unobscured. Stick around

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:17.800
<v Speaker 1>after this short sponsor break for a preview of what's

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 1>in store for next week. The spiritual touring actor Grigory Rasputin.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the Moscow Gazette called him, But that was

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 1>just the headline. Things only got worse for Gregory from there.

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Apparently the writer knew all the favorite talking points from

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 1>the elite salons. He was a cunning Siberian charlatan, a

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 1>predatory letcher, a hypnotist, and a false teacher who used

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>his ideas about Holy love to get far too up

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:52.759
<v Speaker 1>close and personal with his followers. They called him a

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 1>pseudo prophet and damned him for teaching spiritual delusions that

0:39:56.800 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 1>were opposite of the traditions of the Orthodox Church. But

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 1>the article didn't stop at condemning resputants, delusions, and false holiness.

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 1>It also attacked other areas of his life. It accused

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<v Speaker 1>Grigory of being a lazy, deadbeat, a man who had

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<v Speaker 1>abandoned his family in Pokrovsko, whose children were fatherless and unruly,

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<v Speaker 1>and the author even said that in investigating his piece,

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<v Speaker 1>he had spoken with a church leader who called Gregory

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<v Speaker 1>a heretic and a sexual predator. Unobscured was created by

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<v Speaker 1>me Aaron Manky and produced by Matt Frederick, Alex Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>and Josh Thayne in partnership with I Heart Radio, with

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for listening