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Speaker 1: Hello guys, and welcome back. This is episode two of

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Speaker 1: and everybody. And let's get on into this episode, episode two.

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Speaker 1: So today I'm actually here. I have family in my

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Speaker 1: But as all of this was happening, so as my

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Speaker 1: I got an alert. I'm still subscribed to all of

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Speaker 1: TMZ's alerts. I also get breaking news via Twitter from

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Speaker 1: MSNBC N like all these different place uh places, My

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Speaker 1: phone like never stops with the notifications. And they released

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Speaker 1: the audio a nine to one one call from the

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Speaker 1: night that young Scooter UH, the ATL rapper UH that

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Speaker 1: He was running from police and UH towards something or

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Speaker 1: After there was a phone call made to police. So

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Speaker 1: now we have more information. So the nine one one

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Speaker 1: call was about a four minute, eight second audio. There

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Speaker 1: her saying, hey, I'm neighborhood watch. There are about seven

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Speaker 1: for you guys who first of all, do not know

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Speaker 2: So he spent well over two thousand dollars that night,

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Speaker 1: And then he made it clear this money would have

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Speaker 2: He gotta pay his light bill? I know I did.

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Speaker 2: Some people were saying, Yo, what bills does he have

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Speaker 1: But I don't think that it mattered y'all care about

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Speaker 2: Or no? No, you didn't.

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Speaker 1: He instructed the ushers to lock the doors or to

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Speaker 2: But let me tell y'all, Okay, I go to church.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I take my shots, Yes, I you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I have a good time, but I do go to church.

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Speaker 1: I've never felt like you needed to lock the doors

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, if you know, Marvin sat thought

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Speaker 2: Their iPhones and their WiFi.

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Speaker 1: But I don't understand what security breaches he thought thought

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Speaker 2: It's like alter call.

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Speaker 1: Like you know, if you were raised in a church,

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Speaker 1: you know there are certain times where you don't just

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Speaker 2: And I can understand that.

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Speaker 1: But I do think the whole oh, I was trying

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot after I say this, being

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