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Speaker 1: All right, how are you doing? Once again, everybody, I

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Speaker 1: am Russ Salzburg. Today I'm joining with my partner Mr

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Speaker 1: Jeff Eagles form a Super Bowl champion. How are we doing? Jeff?

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Speaker 1: And as always, we are here with you the fans

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Speaker 1: yourself amazing Giants prizes throughout the season. And uh, it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a different Thursday because we got

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Speaker 1: different Wednesday because we got a game coming up tomorrow

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Speaker 1: night on Thursday against the Philadelphia Eagles. And you know what, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: you've been down this road several times before. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know the discussion that that you listen. I get it

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Speaker 1: every move I make from from fans and people on

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Speaker 1: this week, Well, you know, Russ, I mean it's right

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Speaker 1: there because everybody's lost last week. And but Pat Sherman

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Speaker 1: he said it best when he said, we can't worry

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Speaker 1: about what anybody else is doing. We gotta we gotta win.

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Speaker 1: We gotta win a game. That's what we gotta do,

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Speaker 1: and then we gotta win more games. I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: You can't. Don't worry about the schedule to do you

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Speaker 1: get your house in order exactly, and you know this

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Speaker 1: is the week to do it. Short week. You know,

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Speaker 1: I discussed it. It's um. You know, as a player,

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Speaker 1: The good side about a Thursday game is that you

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Speaker 1: it's it's even better when you win a game. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: which even makes it better having that ten days off.

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Speaker 1: But more importantly, in the locker room, you gotta believe

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Speaker 1: at this point when the team is won in war,

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Speaker 1: still believe that they can turn the season around, and

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Speaker 1: believe it or not, the Giants are one and a

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Speaker 1: half games out of first place. If you can believe it,

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Speaker 1: which is ridiculous. Um, I think if we if we

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Speaker 1: rewinded this and everybody was talking about this six weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: jip them. Giants scored thirty one point what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: You know, we were talking about, like you said, it's

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Speaker 1: with Matt. Matt, how you doing? Buddy around with Russ

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Speaker 1: and Jeff Good? What's going on? Guys? How are you now? Much? Hey? So,

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Speaker 1: All right? All right? Um, hey to two things. The

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Speaker 1: looking at for it now, all of a sudden, you're

427
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: kind of it's in your rear view mirror. You're kind

428
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 1: of you're looking around and and he's not picking up

429
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,479
Speaker 1: receivers and this and that. So you know, no one

430
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: he won't ever tell you that, and no coach is

431
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: ever gonna come out and say that. But the fact

432
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: of the matter is the defensive coaches love it. Hits

433
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: on the quarterback. Is their humtive over and over and

434
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: over before you know what, the mistakes aren't happening. Well,

435
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: isn't that a fact that anybody's gonna tell you? Isn't

436
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: how they beat how the key to beating Mr Brill? Absolutely,

437
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: you hit him in the mouth. And I will tell

438
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: you this and this is this has nothing to do

439
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: with with throwing the football, but I will tell you

440
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: it has a direct relationship to what I'm gonna say

441
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: in punting. When a team is constantly rushing you, okay,

442
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: and you normally get the ball off in one point

443
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: nine seconds or two seconds, it's literally the opt time

444
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 1: that we do. If a team is constantly constantly rushing

445
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: you and they're in your face, you are going to

446
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: start to feel that pressure over and over and it

447
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: changes your technique and fundamental so you're no longer sitting

448
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: back there waiting and you know to hit these perfect kicks.

449
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, it's on your mind if these

450
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: guys are trying to block it every time. So I'm

451
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 1: just saying you can see the correlation there. It happens,

452
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: It gets in guy's heads if he's on on pace

453
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: with it's gonna have that they can stand a g

454
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: That's that's It's sixteen and five games. That's a lot. Okay,

455
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: what do you say we go? Where are we We're

456
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: in the Poconos. Let's check in with Atticus. What do

457
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: you say, Atticus? Your own with Russ and Jeff? Hey, guys,

458
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: how are you today? How you do? Good? Good? Thanks

459
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: for taking my call. This is the first time I

460
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: got through to both of you, guys, and it's good

461
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: to finally be able to thank you. Welcome aboard. Appreciate

462
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: all the memories. Jeff appreciate it, and I'm glad I

463
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: can help him. Always count on you. So I want

464
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: to talk so quickly about man, you know, who would

465
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: have thought wanting four to start this season and still

466
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to salvage the season, at least within

467
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: our division, you know, going in, I mean there was

468
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: just a lot of hyphen for good reason, you know.

469
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: But the division overall is just real perplexing right now, totally.

470
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the Super Bowl champions are in the division. Okay,

471
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 1: everybody thinks the Cowboys we're gonna get better. Um, everybody

472
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: a little bit outside chance that the Eagle or excuse me,

473
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: the Red Skin. Nobody really knew about the Giants. But

474
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: here the division sits in in a complete quandary. You're

475
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: sitting there going so if I had to ask you

476
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: at it at this point in five games, okay, just

477
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: a little bit less than a third of the season

478
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: through Who's Who's your team? Out of the NFC East?

479
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: Can you tell me one? You'd probably have to pick

480
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: the Eagles just on the fact that they're the defending

481
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions two wins, but other than that, it's

482
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: like ahead, flip a coin, will flip full coin. But

483
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: to your point is, yeah, nobody would have taken argument

484
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: for for any team to be the front runner at

485
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: this point. But you have to go with the eg Yes, yes,

486
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: And I will tell you that, you know, to be

487
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: able to sit here and talk about the way that

488
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: this team has played and still be able to sit

489
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: up and say, by the way, guys were only one

490
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: and a half games out of first place. We we

491
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: got a chance at one and four. I think you

492
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: should be very happy. In fact, that should be a

493
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: motivating factor in the locker room to me right this minute,

494
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: as if I'm a coach, I'm telling everybody right now, yeah,

495
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: our record is what it is. It's coach part Coach

496
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: Parcel has always said that, right. But if I'm in

497
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: the coach and I'm in the locker room, I'm telling

498
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: these guys, don't look at the record right now, look

499
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 1: at going down to the Turnpike and or have them

500
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: come up here and win one game and get us

501
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: in a position to moving forward. We're getting closer and

502
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: closer to that second half of the season by the

503
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: way Attic is, and if you've looked at that schedule,

504
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: the second half is much better than the first half,

505
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: those first eight row. I just want to real quickly

506
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: touch on this Thursday's game if I can too. Yeah,

507
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: is going to be a factor. You know, King Michael

508
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: is freaking havoc down south from what I'm hearing is

509
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: to us. You know what Attic is. I wasn't thinking

510
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: about it until this morning, and when I start hearing

511
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: all the weather reports, I'm really glad Atticus you brought

512
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: it up, because all of a sudden, I'm saying to myself,

513
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: and then I heard the to me the weather report

514
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: that I heard driving in Jeff said the rain tomorrow

515
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: afternoon and maybe thunderstorms tomorrow night. And you know, again, listen,

516
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,479
Speaker 1: these guys have played in rain before. But if if

517
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: you're getting heavy downpours with the thunder who the hell

518
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: knows you that could be a major factor. Kind of

519
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: like things out the window, and I think we'll see

520
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: a lot of running. The Eagles are beat up in

521
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: their run game right now. Their offensive line is a

522
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: shadow of its former self. Lane Johnson is unrecognizable up there.

523
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with them. That's good

524
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: news for us. Our offensive line seems to be getting

525
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: better while there seems to be getting worse. So I'm

526
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: really happy about that. But you know the thing that

527
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: that that really scares me about this game, and I

528
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: believe Blue looked through through life through a set of

529
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: Blue winses and all of that stuff that I'm also

530
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: a much of a realist. I really thought we'd be

531
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: like eight and eight going in. I thought we'd come

532
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: out the first quarter, uh quarter of the season two

533
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: and two, and maybe the second quarter of the season

534
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: two and two or one and three. So I'm not

535
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: too disappointed, though I don't want to have a losing

536
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: record of being one and four right now. But the Eagles, Man,

537
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: the Eagles are that team that we always match up

538
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: and play so hard against and then we end up

539
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: having the worst look ever with them. How many different

540
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: games can be categorized as miracles in the Meadowlands, I

541
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: mean dating back to Petarsac and Herman Edwards, you know,

542
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: and then the DeShawn Jackson thing, and then we were

543
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: fourteen and two and got kicked out of the playoffs

544
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: by the Philadelphia Eagles, and then last year with the

545
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: sixty one yard field goals. Easy there. Now, we're not

546
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: trying to uh, we don't want to mask Harry Carry

547
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: if you will, you know what I'm saying, anybody, you know,

548
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: I really think that we have Listen, you guys were

549
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: talking about the motivation needed to go into tomorrow's game

550
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: and what you could hang it out. Listen, we have

551
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: enough reasons to be highly motivated to go in there

552
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: and just rip stuff up tomorrow. And I really believe

553
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: that the team that we have, the coaches, you can

554
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,239
Speaker 1: look at the interviews and the different things coming out

555
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: of the locker room right now, those guys are still

556
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: as hungry as they've ever been. And on the heels

557
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: of this last game, they did everything too. Now, they

558
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: played poorly in the first half with tackle and that

559
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: was awful to look at, but they regroup, gathered themselves,

560
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: came out in the second half and played extremely well.

561
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: Come out of the come out in the fourth court

562
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: let's get this two minute drift score touchdown. We've got

563
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: this game one. And then you know, I think it

564
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: was Paul the teeno last week said said to God

565
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: only gives those kind of favors once in a lifetime

566
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: with that type of field goal, will it happened to

567
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: us like again? And that's enough to make those guys want, like,

568
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: like Odell Beckham Jr. Said, we want five more minutes

569
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: of playtime for this game. And this is the first

570
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: time that a Thursday night game couldn't come soon enough.

571
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: So I'm still excited. But I think that weather is

572
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: going to be a big factor. I think we're gonna

573
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: see more running than than passing. And i'd love to

574
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: seeing Elon Man in carbook that that terrible secondary in Philadelphia,

575
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens. Alright, Atticas, thank you for

576
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: the call. You know, the bank the point Atticus brings

577
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: up and I really thought about that driving in. You know,

578
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: we tend to forget about it until it's upon us.

579
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: But the weather, you know, like if we give your

580
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: other report, if you're getting really bad weather, we'll give

581
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: me the weather report. Basically, when you come between two

582
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: and six o'clock chance it's going to be raining. So

583
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: there's your there's your pre game. That's prerogating, okay, and

584
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: then after that it starts to drop down. So by

585
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: eight o'clock there's only about a chance of rain. Okay,

586
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: But nonetheless that makes for a different situation. And to me, then,

587
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, we know the cry of every head coach

588
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: is protect the damn football. Well, I think there's gonna

589
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: be a great emphasis on it. Easier said that done

590
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: when the weather is lousy, But that's then that becomes

591
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: an even more important issue about protecting the football if

592
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: the weather conditions allows you. Well, both these teams this

593
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: year are there in the negative categories turnovers, So, um,

594
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: to give you an exact amount, I will tell you.

595
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: I believe the Giants are minus three and um, let's

596
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: say they don't have it on here, they just have it. Uh, okay,

597
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: Well the turnover they're both there in the league. I

598
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: believe that both teams are minus three, So you know, yeah,

599
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: protect the football, and especially when it's wet. If it's

600
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: gonna be wet, you're gonna run the football. Um, you know.

601
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: I I think that when you look at the Eagles

602
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: offense and what they have to do to win this game. Um,

603
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: They're running game is beat up. If you look at

604
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 1: a G H G I, he's out. Okay, they put

605
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: him what I are. Um, they've got two guys you

606
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: don't even recognize their names. And um, their offensive line,

607
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: as Attic has said, is in a little bit of shambles.

608
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: They have. You know, their receivers are good, but um,

609
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't have an offensive line like

610
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,959
Speaker 1: the Giants, it's tough to throw the football. And uh,

611
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, really both this is gonna be I think

612
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: this is gonna be one of those games that's not

613
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna be low scoring, okay, because I just think

614
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: that the Giants defense, this is uh, this will be

615
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: coach Betcher's first go around being a New York Giant

616
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: against the Philadelphia Eagles football team. And and the Giants defenses,

617
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: I think they're okay, you know they're doing they're doing

618
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: They're doing a good job. We'll see. Uh let me

619
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: ask you just I'm just run defense could be a

620
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: little bit better. I'm just throwing this out. Pat Shermo

621
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: was very optimistic yesterday, more optimistic than he's been for

622
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: the past three four weeks about Ovie Olivier vernon being back.

623
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 1: Do you think poor weather, we'll play into his return.

624
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: You know it shouldn't, because first of all, if you're

625
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: to return, you need to be you need to be now.

626
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: If he's not a percent, you know that he will

627
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: be the next game. Who's the next game against Atlanta? Yes,

628
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: Monday night. So actually now you get you get eleven

629
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: days until the next game, which is which if he

630
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: if he's there's just a little bit of doubt of

631
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: him playing in this game, He's definitely playing next because

632
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: you gotta eleven eleven eleven days. So it might be

633
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: it might just be the idea of hey, you know what,

634
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: can we just wait one more game and then we're

635
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: shared a one d O v um. You know one

636
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: thing you got to look out too for is that

637
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: um Evan Ingram is he going to make his return back?

638
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: And read Elson yesterday in the locker room. I mean,

639
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: Ingram certainly seemed optimistic, you know, uh, he seemed fine, good,

640
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: so good. I mean we will see. Well, the more

641
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: the more weapons that Eli has, the better. And I

642
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: will tell you that that offense misses Evan Ingram in

643
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: the middle of field and some of those Uh, you

644
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: know that speed he has in playmaking ability when you

645
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,239
Speaker 1: take that away, I mean he was and even though

646
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: Adele was out last year obviously, um Evan Ingram was

647
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: the number one leading receiver last year for the Giants.

648
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know that the wind, as

649
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: you know he brought up, uh Atticus, the wind and

650
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: the rain well, uh Negate some of those weapons of

651
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: elis you know a little bit. I don't. I don't know.

652
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: I don't think that the weather is going to be

653
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: that big of a factor in my just looking at

654
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: the numbers. But to me, weather is a factor when

655
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: it's when it's raining the whole game. Okay, um, and

656
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: the wind is more than ten to fifteen miles As

657
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: a punter, uh, did that play mind games for you

658
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: before the game going in? Like what are you conscious?

659
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: What do I have to do different? Or you know,

660
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: from a from a punter or field ball kick anything,

661
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: throwing the football and kicking the football when it's windy

662
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: is difficult. And but Wendy is more than fifteen miles

663
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: an hour, fifteen below is it's it's it's something you

664
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: know how to deal with. But at fifteen miles an

665
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: hour or more, it starts to affect things. It starts

666
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: to affect the throw down the field. That starts to

667
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: affect field goals, kickoffs, punts, all that kind of stuff.

668
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: But um, you know, right, if there's no wind and

669
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: it's raining, it doesn't affect anything. It just affects maybe

670
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: looking up into if it's a night game, looking up

671
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: into the into the lights, because it is raining. When

672
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: you look up, you can see the rain. Um, and

673
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: just gotta you know, you gotta focus a little bit more, alright,

674
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: Two one four five one three is the number. Let's

675
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,479
Speaker 1: go to Scott in New Mexico. Hey, Scotty, what's up? Scott? Hey, guys,

676
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: how are you doing good? How are you doing good? Um?

677
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to some points with you. We

678
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: can't do anything about the record. It's one in four,

679
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: which I don't know if anybody knows, that's the worst

680
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: Giant starts since I think nine when Ray Perkins was

681
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: a coach and we went over five. But hold, hold

682
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 1: the hold on, hold on a second. One of confldence

683
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: teams went onen six, one of conference things went owen six. Okay,

684
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: I was unaware of that, but but negating that for

685
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: just a second, I've been listening to both of you

686
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: and you've made some excellent points about why the Giants

687
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: can win this game, and I believe, as you do,

688
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: that they can correct it. I think there's things that

689
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: are correctable. But I wanted to get both of your

690
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: opinions as to and you've seen a number of iterations

691
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: of Giant teams through the ages, Uh, after five games,

692
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: how would you assess this team? What is the if

693
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: you could take one singular characteristic and change that. Do

694
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: you think that singular characteristic would propel the Giants forward?

695
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: And I know they've been is it beating your man?

696
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: Is it eliminating penalties? And all of this is obviously

697
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: coming into play playing more consistently, But what is the

698
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: one ingredient? And Jeff, you've played the game, rust you've

699
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: seen it. What's the one characteristic Giants to I'm just

700
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: gonna say from a guy on the outside watching, if

701
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: you're asking me on this particular team, I would say,

702
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: on this particular Giants team, familiarity. I mean, the guys

703
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: in particular on the offensive line, or call it chemistry,

704
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: are still getting to know each other. They're still they're

705
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: still working together as a unit, and you know, I

706
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: certainly think you know, by the end of the season,

707
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: I think they will be much better because they'll have

708
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: more games together under their belt, they will be familiar

709
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: with each other, and therefore the chemistry will be better.

710
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 1: I think we've seen some improvement the last couple of weeks,

711
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's where you want it to be.

712
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: You go, Jeff Well, I I think that I think

713
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: consistency is a big word here, and I think it

714
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: comes on both sides of the football and even in

715
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: special teams. I think starting with special teams, you look

716
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: at the way that they played last week. It was

717
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: a disaster, UM. And they've had some good games this year,

718
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: so the consistency hasn't been there. The offense seems to

719
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: go every other game they have a good game, um

720
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden that so the consistency

721
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: is not there. Defensively, look at the first game against

722
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: the uh against the Jacksonville Jacksonville Jaguars. I mean, that

723
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: was a very good game offensively and defensively, but the

724
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: consistency hasn't been there. And why it's because of what

725
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: Russ said. I think that this is a lot of

726
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: it's a new team. You have a new coaches, you

727
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: have new new plays and schemes on both sides of

728
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: the football, and I think eventually it's going to get there.

729
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: But right now, the one word for me to answer

730
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: your question is, it's been the consistency on both sides

731
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: of the ball and on special teams. Right But the

732
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: other question that I have is when the season started.

733
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: I guess both of you remember the original press conference

734
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: that Dave Gentleman had, and I think they asked him

735
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: a question about how long is it going to take

736
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: for this team to, you know, to produce, And I

737
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: believe his quote was this team was built to win now,

738
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: as opposed to you know, what you're saying is going

739
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: to have to develop a consistency just trying to processes

740
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: well well when now? Uh doesn't mean and you know,

741
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: it depends how you're taking it. He didn't say, are

742
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: we plan on winning the Super Bowl this year? Every

743
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: coach will say, I don't care who it is, if

744
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: it's an expansion team, the goal is always to get

745
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: into the playoffs and once, as Parcels used to say,

746
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: you get into the tournament and then you see what happens.

747
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: But when when When? When? Now, that's what he's meaning.

748
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: This is not I don't he was saying, it's not

749
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: a complete rebuild situation. You know, that's why they you know,

750
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: Elies the quarterback and certain guys are there it. It's

751
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: to win now. It's to be a good competitive team now.

752
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: But again, he wasn't doing it with Pixie Does. He

753
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: wasn't going from three and thirteen the thirteen and three.

754
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: If anybody was believing that the they would just fooling themselves.

755
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: My real quickly might take on that is that this team,

756
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: when you look at it on paper, they absolutely were

757
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: built to win now. I mean because because there's no question,

758
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: and that's what he's that's what he means by that.

759
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: They mean the meaning behind this is that hey, by

760
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: the way, uh Eli has got about a year or

761
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 1: two left when what we've figured out, right he said,

762
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: elis I caught it back. We believe in them. Remember

763
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: that quote. Okay, well that's the quace. That's the case

764
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: where they go out and find it. They find a

765
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: left tackle, they get the number two draft pick in

766
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: the in the number the two pick in the draft. Okay,

767
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: they've got a defense that they go out and signed

768
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: uh Martin, Um, I mean Martin? So yes, and so

769
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: where where is the disconnect here? The disconnect is that

770
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: it's been disappointing to this point. And I think that

771
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: that Dave Getleman will tell you that, I mean, for

772
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: God's sakes, that the Giants just cut Eric Flowers, who

773
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: was the number one draft pick four years ago, being

774
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,479
Speaker 1: the eighth or ninth pick whatever it was in the draft.

775
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: Team is under is underachieving at this point, and I

776
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: will tell you that they got a lot of things

777
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: stacked against him when it comes to the to the

778
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: schedule that they've been up against. But you look on

779
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: you look at these games, and you can't tell me

780
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 1: that this team they should be better than one and four,

781
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: maybe two maybe three games. Okay, I'm not disagree with

782
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: I agree with it. After you look at the Houston

783
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: and this Carolina game, those should be wins. Those should

784
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: be wins. This team should be sitting in the three

785
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: and two. I'm sorry they wanted Houston excuse Dallas game. Okay,

786
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: so listen, they were right there, and listen, they've been

787
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: in the game, no question, So they're not you know,

788
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: they're getting blown out of this. But My point to

789
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: you is that this team, in my opinion, was built

790
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: to win now and they're underachieving. And if there isn't

791
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: any reason why this team couldn't be better than one

792
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: and four, that they sit here right now, right well,

793
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: I appreciate welcome Scott, thank you, You're welcome, thank you.

794
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: You know, and when you look at the assessment, I'll

795
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: tell you that I give the defense the nod or

796
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: of the offense. This year up to this point, I

797
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: will tell you that the special teams has been not

798
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: that good. The specialists have been real good. I look

799
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: at Riley Dixon and and look at Aldric Rosa's they

800
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: have been very solid, very solid. The other the return

801
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: team has been abysmal. Okay, and the coverage and the

802
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: protection stuff like that, that's all has not been very good.

803
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: But they and then the offense, I think I give them,

804
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, they're they just have been so inconsistent. Well,

805
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know the specialist Rosas is a specialist

806
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: and he is the one with the tweaky uh quad.

807
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: If you will does will the weather be? Do you

808
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: think I'm not asking? Well, if it's cold, you know

809
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like it's still gonna be in the

810
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: sixties and whatever. I mean if it if it's forty degrees,

811
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: it's supposed to. Yeah, so I mean that the answer

812
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: your question, Yes, a hamstring and when it's cold, it

813
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: does that. That wouldn't impact the weather would have an

814
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: impact out there. But it's a warm it's a warm

815
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: supposed pretty weather, you know. Yeah, I mean that kind

816
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: of stinks because you know, from the fans perspective, you

817
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: got a Thursday night game. You know you want to

818
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: go and have a good time. Well, you also you

819
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: want to listen. They're not gonna they're not gonna be

820
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: there as early as they normally are on you know,

821
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: Sunday mornings. But you know, as you say, they want

822
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: to go and um, you know tailgate and wanted to listen.

823
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: If you take an out, take an hour earlier than

824
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: you normally do, you can still be there at four

825
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: thirty in the games at eight, that's still enough time. Yeah, well, no,

826
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: it's I mean maybe not for you. I mean it

827
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: probably takes you a lot longer than that to get

828
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: kind of loaded up, right, Yes, that would be the case,

829
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: you know that not on that Sasparilla, Well, lots of

830
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: Sasaparilla for you US lots of saspall. But no, I

831
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: mean it's a situation that I it bothers me that

832
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: you might be getting lousy weather tomorrow night, because I

833
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: really believe that becomes a factor. And you know, you

834
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: might say, well, yeah, it becomes a factor. But it's

835
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: a factor for both teams. I get that, but I'm

836
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: not interested in in what it does with the Eagles.

837
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: I'm just interested in what it does with the Giants. Lean.

838
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, rust, I'm gonna be the

839
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: host and ask you the question there, so you think it,

840
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: I think it actually plays into the hand of the

841
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: Giants offense if you if it was nasking rather as

842
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: far as running, right, don't you I wouldn't think I

843
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: would think so. The Giants offense running the football is

844
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: uh there seven? Okay, well the Eagles are excuse me,

845
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: the defense is seven and rushing to football. The Eagles

846
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: offenses sixteen. Well, the Giants offense and running the football

847
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: is so both offenses are not They're not the greatest,

848
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: all right, but guess what. The Eagles defense is number

849
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: two in the NFL and rushing defense, so you're gonna

850
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: have to pick your poison. However, you know, I don't

851
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: think that. I think that if I got to put

852
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: up you know, Sequon Barkley over the other running backs

853
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: for the Eagles, I'm to obviously take him, all right.

854
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: Two oh one, five one three is the number again.

855
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: Gotta remind you folks that Big Blue Kickoff live here,

856
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857
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858
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen season. Now, let's go to our girlfriend

859
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, Lisa, Lisa, and how are you jibs doing today? Lisa?

860
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: I know you'll let us know yesterday on Twitter that

861
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: you miss Big Blue Kickoff because you had to go

862
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: to the dentist get some dental work done. Yes, okay, good,

863
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:43,479
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're feeling okay. Information Yeah, happy birthdays. Thank

864
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: you very much, Lesa, appreciate it, my dear. I have

865
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: a great How are you? How are you? Jeff? Fine?

866
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering how old Russ is. He looks good

867
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: for eight not no, no, hey, listen, I picked up

868
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: I picked up my well, let's just say I'm not

869
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: wearing depends yet Okay, thank God to take a couple

870
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: of breaks. What do you got alright, guys, I just

871
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: heard that Vernon is a goal and Rojas is a

872
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: goal for the game Thursday, which is good. Okay, Well

873
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: that we need Vernon out there with the weather and

874
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: against the Eagles. Well, I'll tell you what I'm really

875
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: glad is a goal because you know what, that young man,

876
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: Jeff and I were talking about it over lunch, he's

877
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: had an other than that, we'll call it a flood whatever,

878
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, when he kicked the ball out of bounds

879
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: last week. He's had an outstanding Jeff, you used the

880
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: word consistent before for a kid who had a young

881
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: man who had a very shaky rookie season. He's been

882
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: solid as a rock the season. So I'm really glad

883
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: that that he's back in there at least. Yeah as well,

884
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: and it couldn't happen to a nicer kid. I'm so

885
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: glad down back. Yes, I heard Ingram is going to

886
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: be out. Though, how much do you think that's gonna

887
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: affect us? Well, it's alright, if you look at Lisa,

888
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: if you look at the other games, it's already affected

889
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: the offense. I mean it's uh, you know, and again

890
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: we can't we don't we we don't confirm anything on

891
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: the show because we don't know yet. But if it's

892
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: the fact is is that is it done? It's it's

893
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: saying here game status that No, it's it says right,

894
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: we just got it right in front of us. We

895
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: weren't looking at Ingram and Russell Sheppard. And I'll tell

896
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: you what. The Ingram thing really does surprise me because man,

897
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: he was as confident as confident could be yesterday and

898
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: then Pat shermism confident about it as well. So I

899
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 1: guess he just didn't past the test. Yeah, it definitely hurts.

900
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: It definitely hurts because he's such a great playmaker. Um,

901
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, the guy can he can he

902
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: can struct, he can make that, he can make plays

903
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. He's it's just it's

904
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: gonna hurt them, but they just gotta move on. They

905
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: gotta move on. We've done it without him before. So

906
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: in one more week and it's ten days off for

907
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: eleven days off, actually ten days off and they're playing

908
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: on the eleventh day next week. Will help all these

909
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: injuries coming off this little short week of football anything

910
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: else for us, Lace, that's it? All right? Are you

911
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: going to the game? And now my kids do the

912
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: Barkley bop? Oh, it's the How old are the kids now? Two?

913
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: Three and four? From the stray hand stomp? Now we

914
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: do the barley bop. Barkley bop? Sounds sounds good. I'll

915
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: tell you what I wish you and might teacher Lisa. Yeah,

916
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna do the barkley bop from today, tomorrow, at

917
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: tomorrow and the day and we're gonna bop them tomorrow night.

918
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: All right, sounds good? Lace, All right, have a happy birthday, Rock,

919
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 1: Thank you, my dear, and you have a good evening

920
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: and enjoy the game tomorrow. We'll talk next week. Okay,

921
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: thank you, bye bye, bye bye. Today your birthday, Yes

922
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: it is, sir, Yes it is. Well, congratulations, thank you.

923
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: What are you doing for for Christmas? For your birthday?

924
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm doing for my birthday. You're spending

925
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: the day with me. That I'm spending the day with you,

926
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: a guy with no hair, and then I'm babysitting tonight.

927
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: So it's a good birthday. What's better than a babysitting

928
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: for your grandsons? I'm all right, that's perfect. So you're

929
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: your kids can go out on your birthday. I gotta

930
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: remember that one. Yeah, kids are not pulling that on me. Actually,

931
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: the kids got to the parents. Mommies have to go

932
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: to a teacher's preschool teachers conference. These kids are one's

933
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: gonna be four, one's gonna be one, and one's gonna

934
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: be three, you know, two and a half. Whatever. What's

935
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: the conference is gonna be like, Hey, guess what your

936
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: kid made it all the way through the day without

937
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: pooping his drawers. Well, that's the other thing. That's what

938
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: we're going You think you talk about intervieweral points. You

939
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: gotta go through that everyday report when when when a

940
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: kid faceline to this morning? Pops? I pooped when I

941
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: went on on the party. You must now what do

942
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: you want me to do? All right? Two oh one nine, three,

943
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: nine four or five one three is the number? And

944
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: again listen, um, I'm really you know, you're the player,

945
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: and I think it probably gets into fans heads about

946
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: it more than the players do because the players they're

947
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: playing it, so they're used to it. My just concern is, again,

948
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: we've been through several games and I've seen some tremendously

949
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: played games, not just in in rain, but in snow.

950
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: I just worry about you know how you know, like

951
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: you say, if it's winds, we know it's not going

952
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: to be cold. But if it's wind and you know,

953
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: if it's one of those, I think it's gonna be fine.

954
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: What do you call where where it's a going across

955
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: the field? You know the rain, you know, just the horizon,

956
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: whatever you call it? All right, let's go to New

957
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: Jersey and speak with Louis. Yo, Louis, you're on with

958
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: Russ and Jeff. How you doing? How are you doing? Roches? Jeff?

959
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: I listened to you every single week for the last

960
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: five years of my life. Very good. This is my

961
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 1: first time calling. I thought it would be much harder

962
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: to get through, but I I want to speak about

963
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: how old the Becam junior should get three touchdowns this week?

964
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: How are you going to get him? Louis? I think

965
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: they need to do another trick play from sa Kuan Uh.

966
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: I think that they should do a running play to

967
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: set Kuan from sa Quan to fake to j has one.

968
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: Then if Eli can get in the middle of the game,

969
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 1: you know, a big play, you know a big long play.

970
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: I think they can get another. You can get it

971
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: if you can not be scared. Like at the end

972
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: of the game last week when they got threty one

973
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: points the first time in two years, he heared it

974
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: out to him. You know, he has to be not

975
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: afraid Eline. You know, I think it's too scared of

976
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: when they get he gets tackled. He's not a running quarterback.

977
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: He's not a mobile quarterback. You know what, louis one

978
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: thing I don't like when because say, listen, Eli is

979
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: the first one I'll tell you. You know, he's the quarterback.

980
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: He with that position comes to praise, comes to glory,

981
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: and it also comes to criticism. But this business, I know.

982
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: But but you know, I don't like there's an amazy job.

983
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: But I just think he's not a He's not an

984
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: amazing running quarterball. No, he's not an amazing running quarterback quarterback.

985
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: He's one of the all time greatest passing quarterbacks we've

986
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: ever had in our in our in our century, we've

987
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: never had a better. Maybe Don Brady is not a

988
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: better when it comes out to getting passing the ball,

989
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: he's a great passer. When he has even three seconds

990
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: he probably gets a ball down the field. Problem is

991
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't move. He doesn't move. I think he doesn't.

992
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: He just doesn't move. Well, okay, so go ahead, all right,

993
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: So you want a trick, but well remember this and

994
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: and thanks for the call, Louis, but remember this on

995
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: the trick plays. Now that they've done one, which it

996
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: works two ways. Now that they've done one, people are

997
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: gonna be thinking about it, so they're gonna prepare for

998
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: it number one now. And the flip side of that

999
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: is then if the conscious of it, well, then you

1000
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: can maybe do other things. So I mean, it's it's

1001
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: it's like if you're in baseball, if you're throwing a

1002
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: ball into someone's chin, you're gonna start thinking about it.

1003
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: So you know you've got other teams thinking about it.

1004
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a great play. Well you also

1005
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: got the Philadelphia Eagles. I'd like to run about a

1006
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: trick place. You better have your your antennas up on

1007
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: defense about about the Eagles too, So you know, I

1008
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: will say this, folks. You know if if you've watched

1009
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: I've watched enough practices, and when you see at the

1010
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: end of practice or sometimes in practice, you know guys

1011
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: are ketting around. Let me tell you something. Odell confived

1012
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: the ball along way as well yards the other day.

1013
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: I mean, and he is an athlete to make no,

1014
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: you know that was not some lobbly garbage pass that

1015
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: he threw. And and he takes too much pride not

1016
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: to want to get it on, you know, on the money.

1017
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 1: The funny thing was um, and he said it yesterday.

1018
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: Somebody asked them and UM. I forget exactly how it

1019
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: came out in the conversation, but the initial might have

1020
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: been too I think he had a choice like um

1021
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: read Ellison, like over the middle of someplace. But he

1022
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: said he had it in his mind where he wanted

1023
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: to go with the ball, and you could I mean

1024
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: when when he turned around and rebbed it up. I

1025
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: mean that that just was exciting in itself because what

1026
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: happened sometimes that the guy is so wide open they

1027
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: screw it up. That's right as well, you know, No,

1028
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: it can't be right now, is what the hell is

1029
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: he doing it? But was standing all by himself. But

1030
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: I will tell you this that this goes to show you,

1031
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: and this is seeking from experienced folks that UM, when

1032
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: you okay, so I always have to I always have

1033
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: to compare anything to punting because it's the only thing

1034
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: I did. Okay, I did kick one field goal in

1035
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: my career, and I missed it against the Dolphins, but

1036
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 1: did it very well though. That's fine. But my point

1037
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: is that I remember her when things would break down

1038
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: in the punt team, that there was a bad snap

1039
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: and I'd have to get up and run it, or

1040
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: we had a we had a fake few, or a

1041
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: fake punting. I was throwing it. When you're when you're

1042
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: at a certain position, you're you're used to how the

1043
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: game goes and the speed wise, because that's just what

1044
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: you do all the time. Odell Beckham is used to

1045
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: running routes and knowing the speed of linebackers and safeties

1046
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: and things like that. When you ask him to throw

1047
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 1: the football, that's a different that's a different mindset in itself.

1048
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: So when he's out there, the game is a different

1049
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: speed to him. Well, number one, he's the fastest most

1050
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: of the guys are out there, But I'm saying it's

1051
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: a different situation. So now you have people coming at

1052
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: him like they normally don't. He's now a passer. So

1053
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: that just goes to show you how how even greater

1054
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: that that throw was that he made, even though it

1055
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: was wide open. Yeah, but I will tell you my circumstances.

1056
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: There's been times when there has a been a ball

1057
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: in the ground and I've had to pick it up

1058
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: and run, and I've looked out to my rider. I

1059
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: looked out to the left and there's a mile of

1060
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: what I could run for a mile And the next

1061
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: thing you know, you take three steps and they're all there,

1062
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: and you know, and you're saying to yourself, oh, this

1063
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: is gonna hurt. And it did well, but I'm gonna

1064
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: saying that. So it's it's a very difficult to do

1065
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: something out of what you normally do. You know, in

1066
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: all our years together, I don't think I've ever asked

1067
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: you this. How many you punted it in the league?

1068
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: Twenty two years? Yeah? Three years? How many fake fakes

1069
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: were you involved in over the years? Could you? Could

1070
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: you remember? Not enough? We should have ran more. But

1071
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: but unfortunately my passer rating is thirty nine point six,

1072
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: which tells you that's a number that they just kind

1073
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: of give to the person that has like six attempts

1074
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: and zero completions. So not good, not good. And I

1075
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: think I have a negative rushing record too, because I've

1076
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: already started fifteen yards behind the line of scrimins. Yeah,

1077
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: not good. So it's none none of your fakes everyone

1078
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: for actually two of them, two of them I threw

1079
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: to two fake punts over two because the other ones

1080
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: were where there was a bad snap appen. I just

1081
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: threw it out to No, I'm I'm talking about over

1082
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: to one of them. My last one was in Um

1083
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: when Jim Finn was here to remember Jimmy, and uh

1084
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: he ran it. We had it was called a rappah

1085
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: If you want to spell it out, it's it's it's

1086
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: a run, a pass, a hit. Okay, it's a rappah

1087
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: um hit on the end. That was from Mike Sweatman

1088
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: you to go back to. And so he he was

1089
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: wide open and I put it out there and he

1090
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: had alligator arms, I call it, and he he didn't

1091
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: reach out for it and gave me one of these

1092
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: right here, and and it was incomplete passing. And but

1093
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: I did throw a I did throw a touchdown on

1094
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: a fake field goal really against when I was with

1095
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,439
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Okay, it was preseason, but it's still still

1096
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: it was a touchdown. You know that's another thing. I

1097
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: we're talking, then we just got a couple of minutes left.

1098
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: That is one maybe because I'm out there, I'm not

1099
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: the athlete doing it, but it shocks me that there

1100
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: aren't more screw like we've seen enough. It's because of

1101
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: the distance, extra points being missed, but it's shocking to me.

1102
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: Like I think a holder is such a it's minimized

1103
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: how important that job is. Because if you ain't getting

1104
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: a job, you want to talk about a thankless like

1105
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: they talk about like you know, nobody talks about the

1106
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: offensive line, you know, I mean, and well, certainly the

1107
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: players do, but you know you don't hear the name,

1108
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: but the holder, I mean, you're like that, you know

1109
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: what it's like. It's like the guy that works in

1110
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: the stable that picks up the horsepoop. Nobody talks about

1111
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: him until he doesn't pick it up one day. I don't,

1112
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: I don't until he screws it up one day. That's

1113
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: when they start talking about it. Than that, it's just

1114
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: a gifing. Well, I really don't think. I think you're

1115
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: being a little difficult on yourself. I think to to

1116
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: compare a holder to the guy who picks up the

1117
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: horse poop in a barn. I'm just being a little extreme.

1118
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: Just as far as people paying attention to it, there's

1119
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: more than I know that. I know that the skill

1120
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: is probably a little bit more. But like I'll give

1121
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: you a game is on the line, let's rain is

1122
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: coming down, game is on the line. How about this one?

1123
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,959
Speaker 1: How about game is on the line. It's below zero

1124
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: and it's in the NFC Championship game in Green Bay,

1125
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: and it's a high snap and you get it down

1126
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: and you go to the super Bowl. Now that's that's

1127
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: something else right there. There you go, there you go.

1128
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: That's that's what we talked about holding, right, I mean,

1129
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: those are the things that, like you say it, think

1130
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: it for granted. And I never would have associated you

1131
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: with a guy carrying a bucket. I will. I will

1132
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: tell you that one thing, one thing that that makes

1133
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: it easier for a holder is your snapper. And those

1134
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: guys are so good because when they when they do

1135
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: snap it and you catch it, the laces are where

1136
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be, and you just set it down

1137
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: nice and neat for the kicker and he makes it

1138
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: and then it goes. It goes both ways. So I

1139
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: have a great respect for the for the snapper. I

1140
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: love the snapper, the kicker loves this holder. It just

1141
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: goes all right down through it. Well, let's hope we're

1142
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: talking about next week, a big Blue victory over the

1143
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: Eagles tomorrow night at Medlife Stadium. But right now it

1144
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: is time to bid you all a farewell. So our

1145
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: thanks to our producer here today, Brandon Roth, my thanks

1146
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: to my partner Jeff E. Eagles, and as you always

1147
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: you the fans. So until next time, it is I R.

1148
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: Salzburg saying to all of you people out there, bye bye,

1149
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: so long and farewell. Enjoy the game tomorrow night,