1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: It is Monday, November tenth. This is Jeckuars Happy Out. 2 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by Jet Home Loans. 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 3: And now a guy who thought the dryer was shrinking 4 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: all of his clothes, turns out it was his refrigerator. 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Jay p Check, Welcome in. It is a Jaguars Happy Hour, 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: our first hour, presented by Jet Home Loans. Well, we 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: got some things to get to today after week ten, 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: and our show is presented and our coming up is 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: presented by Deep Eddie Vodka, handcrafted with real fruit, proud 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Yes, a nineteen point blown 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: lead is the largest enfranchise history in the Jaguars allowed 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: twenty six unanswered points to the Houston Texans, who won 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: thirty six to twenty nine. With all that, and we 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: will get to all that, the Jaguars are still in 15 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: the AFC playoff rate, says the seventh seed as it 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: stands today, we'll keep it real about quarterback play. 17 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 4: For the Jaguars. 18 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: Fan questions and there were a ton of those, and 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: they're still rolling in. In fact, we'll go around the 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: National Football League. We've got a busy show ahead. CBS 21 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: Sports senior writer Pete Frisco with us down in South Florida, 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: former Jags defensive in Austin Lane with me here in 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: studio and. 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 4: Hi, Austin good after that? What's up man? Hi doing? 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 5: Yeah? Listen, I have a lot to get off my chest, 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 5: a lot of emotion because I didn't get a chance 27 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 5: to do it during the game. Made the mistake of 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 5: watching the game with my girlfriend of like three months now, 29 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 5: and it was her first football game ever. She grew 30 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 5: up in Australia, didn't understand the rules. So I had 31 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 5: to make the decision of well, do I just let 32 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 5: her see the full fledged Austin Lane and all my 33 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 5: unhingedness in the fourth quarter, or I just do I 34 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 5: just kind of play it cool and be like, eh, 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 5: it's football. 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 4: Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 5: And I went with the latter so stone relationship, but 38 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 5: I felt like Jigsaw was going to come out when 39 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 5: it's little like a tricycle and say, hey, do you 40 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 5: want to play a game? Because the mental gymnastics I 41 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 5: had to go through from well do I let the 42 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 5: expectives fly here on that fourth quarter collapse or do 43 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 5: I just keep it cool? Because she has the perceived 44 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 5: notion of who I am now didn't. 45 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: Want to show the real Jags fan. Austin, Well, not yet. 46 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: Maybe tonight tonight for that, Austin Pete, how are. 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 3: You so he's a fraud, then. 48 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: Maybe she's tonight? 49 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 5: How it is? 50 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: Man? 51 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 5: We know those like those fresh relationships where you kind 52 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 5: of got to turn it on a little more, right, Yeah, 53 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 5: turn on that charm. 54 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 1: Yeah? 55 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 6: Yeah, what I say to that, Austin, You're good enough, 56 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 6: You're right. 57 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: People like you. 58 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 4: Here's fine. Here come that bomb sounds good? 59 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, this show not in this show yet. 60 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 3: But no, not here. 61 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 62 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 63 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 6: Look, I watched that game yesterday and I could feel 64 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 6: it coming, you could, you could sense it was coming. 65 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: And look it's it's just a great one choke job. 66 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: That's what it is. You want to describe it any 67 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: other way, go ahead, but it's a choke job. I mean, 68 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: you lead nineteen by nineteen, should have been twenty by 69 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: the way, we'll get into that too, but it should 70 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: have been twenty. You lead by nineteen and you lose 71 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: to Davis Bills. Are you kidding me? 72 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 6: I mean, we'll dissect it every which way imaginable. I 73 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 6: watched the tape today and threw up again watching it. 74 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 6: That's how bad it was. It's awful. 75 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: It was fourth quarter, obviously, all hell broke loose, where 76 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: the Jaguars offense couldn't do anything. They had one first 77 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: down on the whole quarter, a couple of three and outs, 78 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: and then on the other side, the Texans couldn't stop 79 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: moving the football and the Jags couldn't get off the 80 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: field defensively, and Davis Mills caps it off, by the 81 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: way with his legs fourteen yard are on third and 82 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: goal for the go ahead score, which is just a backbreaker. 83 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of things that built up to 84 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: this in the fourth quarter, but for me, it kind 85 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: of felted after that first touchdown on the two pointer. 86 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, wait a minute, it's a two score 87 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: game all of a sudden. There's a lot of football 88 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: left here, and if they have just moved it offensively, 89 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: we can go both sides here, and we're gonna go 90 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: both sides. Offense and defense had. 91 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 4: A hand in this thing. 92 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 5: No without offensive defense definitely had a hand in this, right, 93 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 5: I mean, towards the end, it seems like the defense 94 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 5: is game to win, to go out there and stop 95 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 5: a quarterback of Davis Mills, which doesn't really strike fear. 96 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: I feel like in anybody. 97 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 5: But the way I look at it like this, because 98 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 5: there's so many there's so much finger pointing to go around, 99 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 5: and no one's really safe from it. And we can 100 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 5: say offense, defense, special teams actually played pretty well. But 101 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 5: the way like where I want to start at least 102 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 5: where I start at it is if you go around 103 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 5: every single NFL roster and you see the top five 104 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 5: highest players, and then you go, Okay, how are they contributing? 105 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 5: The good team's gonna be okay, top five highest players, 106 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 5: they're playing pretty well or they're contributing. If you get 107 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 5: on the list of the top five highest page Axel 108 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 5: Jaguars right now on this franchise, and you see how 109 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 5: they did yesterday, you. 110 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 3: Have Trevor's one not literally not playing work the money. 111 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 4: No. 112 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 3: Number two is who heins Allen? 113 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 4: Right, Josh heines Allen was a no show? Miss mmma. 114 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 6: I mean there's no look, we all like Josh, and 115 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 6: Josh has had some good games and Josh probably frustrated 116 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 6: by the fact that he gets a lot of chipping, 117 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 6: but he was a no show on Sunday and that. 118 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, and. 119 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm going down cap hit here. Okay, Lawrence won hinds 120 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: Allen to Treyvon and Walker actually is the third highest 121 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: cap hit No show Foyer Luikin. 122 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: Uh, just a guy and he makes a lot of tackles, 123 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: but no where the impact plays. 124 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: Devon Hamilton, he's the fifth highest paid by cap hit. 125 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 6: He actually, by the way, he actually plays. Uh, he's 126 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 6: playing the pretty well. He's actually one of the few 127 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 6: guys that's actually played. 128 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: Okay, then up there you got Diami Brown, then he 129 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 1: got Armstead, then he got Walker little by the way. 130 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, who is abyssmal with a capital A? 131 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 6: I mean one one thing though, Morris the tight end 132 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 6: gave up one sack to Daniel Hunter. It wasn't It 133 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 6: wasn't on Walker though, and Anton Harrison gave up one 134 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 6: sack to Daniel Hunter, so they weren't all on him. 135 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: But he's not good either. 136 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: It means they were more for Walker though, what's that? 137 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: It means there were two more left for Walker little? 138 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, and he wasn't good. He's not good. I 139 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: mean he isn't. 140 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 6: The offensive line and the defensive line were whipped. Both 141 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 6: of them whipped and you can't win that way. 142 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: You know. 143 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 6: It's funny when you look at this team and you say, 144 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 6: and I've been around that organization. 145 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: For a long time. 146 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 6: I covered the teams in the beginning in ninety five, 147 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 6: in ninety six when they went on they went on 148 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 6: a little run the end and made the postseason, And 149 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 6: you said, Okay, is it real? 150 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: Is it accident? What is it? But they had building blocks. 151 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: They had building blocks. 152 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 6: They had Selliot left tackle, they had Leon at right tackle. 153 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: You had you know, the quarterback you could count. You 154 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: had Jimmy and Keenan, and you had you know, on 155 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 3: the other side of the ball, you had Brackens and Hardy, 156 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: and you had building block. 157 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 6: Where are the building blocks on this team right now? 158 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 6: If I asked you right. 159 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: Now, who are the guys you can count on with 160 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: one certain to be building blocks for the future. 161 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 5: Well, and this is my point, right because those highest 162 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 5: paid guys on this roster should be those building blocks. 163 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 5: Like to me, it goes hand in hand, right. So 164 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 5: if we're on the conversation right now of Okay, Trevor Lawrence, 165 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 5: you know, not his best game yesterday. Josh aanz Allen 166 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 5: didn't really show up and by the way, against the 167 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 5: Houston offensive line, that was makeshift takes the stakes, that 168 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 5: was makeshift. 169 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: Rookie left tackle, two backups on the other side with 170 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback. 171 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: Well, and the backup backup went out and they brought 172 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: another backup yeah, at right guard. 173 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 5: So like if these I mean, this is where you 174 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 5: got to start from. Right, Like, listen, you can go 175 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 5: top to bottom and say, okay, this guy. You got 176 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 5: to start with the top of who's making the most 177 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 5: money and what it's coming down to. And right now, 178 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 5: with that list that you said, JP, I don't think 179 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 5: anyone's really playing above themselves. 180 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: Well, I know the number one guy is not going 181 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: to go anywhere for a while. 182 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: The quarterback, well, you could get rid of him in 183 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: a couple of years next not next year, but the 184 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: year after. 185 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 6: And technically I think if you wanted to, you could 186 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 6: trade him now. I think he has no trade clause 187 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 6: in that contract though, I think, and you could trade 188 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 6: him now and a lot of the option bonus money 189 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 6: would be off the books for going forward and you would. 190 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: Have to pay that. So we take it. But if 191 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 3: you cut, you could never get rid of them. Just 192 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: get rid of them. That couldn't happen because there's so 193 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: much there be one hundred and twenty million or one 194 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen million dollars of acceleration. They could do that, 195 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 3: and this is what are you playing with? If you 196 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: get rid of them. 197 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: Right, this will be a conversation for keeping it real 198 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: in the second hour about the quarterback play and how 199 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: hell they might need to approach this. 200 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 6: More than anything, Okay, the quarterback play wasn't good, but 201 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 6: more than anything, the lines got beat up. 202 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: Well you hey, the defense for these Texans, let's give 203 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: them credit. They are the number one defense in. 204 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: That's a great defense. But little was bad. 205 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 6: Van Lannon struggled in his start. The center was okay, 206 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 6: the right guard was okay. He wasn't as bad as 207 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 6: he's been. 208 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 3: And then he went out, and then the right tackle 209 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: got hurt, and they bring a dog in and those 210 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: those big tight end for me, he's awful right now. 211 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: He's he can't block anybody, and he gets penalties out 212 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: all over the place, and so you go to the 213 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball. No pen by the way, 214 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: the sack that Trayvon Walker had, yes, where he had 215 00:09:58,920 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: the penalty, you. 216 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 6: Know what that was Trent Brown tried to cut him 217 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 6: because it's supposed to be a quick. 218 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: Throw and he jumped over the cut. It wasn't like 219 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: he won. He didn't win. He jumped over him. And 220 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: the other one where he pressured him the one time 221 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 3: they didn't block him. He's not winning against anybody. They 222 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 3: picked that man over Aiden Hutchinson. Think about that. 223 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and listen, and he'll always be compared to 224 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 5: Hutchinson too, I guess, just the fact of the matter. 225 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 4: And he didn't well previous the previous didn't. 226 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, I think, I mean, there's a 227 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 5: lot of frustrating things to take away. You saw this 228 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 5: offensive line at home against Houston. Hold up there in 229 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 5: the bargain right, Like, I understand that the offense wasn't 230 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 5: on full display, you know, game one against Houston here 231 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 5: in Jacksonville. But I thought the offensive line that game 232 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 5: did a fantastic job. So I'm not sure what changed 233 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 5: from then until yesterday because it wasn't like Houston out 234 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 5: schemed you like, did this thing about that Houston Texas defense. 235 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 5: They have so many big names, so many like star players. 236 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 5: They don't have to blitze you. They don't have to 237 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 5: throw these crazy schemes and variations at you. They just 238 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 5: rush for and get home. So I want to know 239 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 5: what changed from the first Houston game to the second 240 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 5: Houston game, And I wish I had an answer for it. 241 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: Well, they ran the ball in the second half of 242 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: the first Houston game. They did do that, correct, Yeah, 243 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: so they I mean they got put and I think 244 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,599 Speaker 3: they showed signs of running the ball on Sunday and 245 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: then they kind of got away from it. They didn't 246 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: run it. I mean I would have run it more, 247 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: try and use the clock. When you got a nineteen 248 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: point lead, you got to run the ball more. 249 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean it's almost I don't want to say run 250 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: it three times and just kill a minute and forty, 251 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: but like you know, I almost run. 252 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: You can't put this one on the offense. When you 253 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: got a nineteen point lead, you gotta not to mention 254 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 3: the game winning drive. You got that guy gid it 255 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 3: to seven. You got to stop them and get off 256 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: the field and win the game. 257 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 6: But that's on the defense even up that those nineteen 258 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 6: Now it's not like the offense scored a boat lo 259 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 6: to points, but you scored twenty nine. 260 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 3: Whatever way you got them, you're supposed to win. 261 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 5: Well, your special games helped out to a twenty nine. 262 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 5: It wasn't just the offense putting up twenty nine points 263 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 5: like special teams had a lot to do with that 264 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 5: as well. 265 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: And the game. 266 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 5: No, and I agree with you, but this is where 267 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 5: complimentary football comes into play. Yes, this is on the defense, 268 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 5: hands down, without a doubt. But me and this is 269 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 5: the former player speaking now, it fell on defense and 270 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 5: I'm watching the offense in the second half, flesh in 271 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 5: that fourth quarter, go three and out, three and out, 272 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 5: three and out. I'm gonna feel a certain type of 273 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 5: way about it. I'm already exhausted as it is, and 274 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 5: you guys can't, you know, sustain a drive like that's 275 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 5: what complimentary football is. And we didn't see complimentary football 276 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 5: from that offense in that fourth quarter, and it put 277 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 5: the defense behind the eight ball. Like we can sit 278 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 5: here and say that, you know, in terms of what 279 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 5: you have in the roster, what he haves in the 280 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 5: defense right now, injuries and all this stuff. Yeah, maybe 281 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 5: they don't have the best names, maybe aren't the most 282 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 5: confident in the secondary, but it does not help things 283 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 5: when guys are exhausted because your offense is going three 284 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 5: and out, three and out, three and out either. 285 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 6: No, but Austin, if I told you, as a defensive player, 286 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 6: you're gonna have Davis Mills ninety eight yards away from 287 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 6: going to win the game and the closing minutes, would 288 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 6: you take it? 289 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 5: I would have said, how do you get this this 290 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 5: close in the first place? 291 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: What do you mean. 292 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 6: Get drove down again? Earlier of the thing they had 293 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 6: when he hit Schultz in the back of the end zone, 294 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 6: he had a month. 295 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 3: To stand in the pot. 296 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 5: There's that, and then there's a scramble for me like 297 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 5: that that play was that can't happen. 298 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 4: That scramble for I think was fourteen fourteen, and then. 299 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 3: And watching it today, they get you know, Josh heinz 300 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: Allen gets caught inside, so he goes out or he 301 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 3: went inside of him, he went up the field, he 302 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: went inside of him. And then when he went up 303 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: the field, what was Devin Lloyd doing? I couldn't figure 304 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: out what he was doing. He has his back to him. 305 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 6: And then Newsom got caught inside and couldn't for whatever 306 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 6: reason and couldn't get back outside. It was just a 307 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 6: It was a horrible defensive and you let that guy 308 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 6: run for the game winning touchdown. 309 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: That should never act. 310 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: That was one of the first things Liam Cohen said 311 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: in the postgame interview was like, we let their guy 312 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: run for third and fourteen game winning touchdown. It was 313 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: one of the first things on his mind was that. 314 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: Comes inside of him. What is Devin Lloyd doing? 315 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: He's getting blocked out like a rebound. What and he's 316 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: getting blocked out like a rebound like the guy he. 317 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: Wasn't he was he had his back to turn it 318 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: to run that again. 319 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: You know when he finally turned around. The guy's got 320 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: his hip on him. 321 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, but here he is. 322 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying he should have read through there. 323 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: He is turn turned back to him right right, and 324 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: he's got it. He's got to help over the top. 325 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: He didn't need to do that. That's just it. When 326 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: you really dissect the defense, the palin at that great, 327 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: Let's be real, it's just not. 328 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 6: You can't rush the passer with four so you gotta 329 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 6: try and blitz, and your safeties can't cover a lick. 330 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: I mean, one can't run and the other one never. 331 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 6: In position because he doesn't know what he's doing. I mean, 332 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 6: Antonio Johnson gets so caught out of position all the time. 333 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: It's unreal. You saw in the game last week, he 334 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 3: should have it. 335 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 6: If they don't bat the ball down, he's his guy's 336 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 6: wide open to the back of the end zone. 337 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 3: They should have won the game. 338 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 6: So then he can't He gets out of position and 339 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 6: the other guy can't run at all, so you can't 340 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 6: really blitz and expose those guys. Monterrek Brown can't run, 341 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 6: so he can't cover anybody a man the man situations. 342 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: So what do you do? I mean, Campanelli's he's caught 343 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: between a ruck and art place unless those pass rushers 344 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 3: start doing something. 345 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 5: I always try to err on the side of the 346 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 5: players here, being a former player myself, but it's there's 347 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 5: no scheme, there's no magic thing that you can drop 348 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 5: to try to be successful. 349 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: Right now in defense, you simply cannot. 350 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 5: And you know, I think a lot of it, and 351 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 5: I talked about this in the preseason. 352 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 4: We talked about it during you know, week one. 353 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 5: Week two, until your defensive line is an issue and 354 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 5: I get right now, you're your quarterback, you're leading quarterback, 355 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 5: socker is Eric Armsteadt and everything, but interior defensive line 356 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 5: right now is an issue, and it was something that 357 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 5: wasn't addressed in free agency. You trade it for Colin 358 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 5: Saunders and we haven't really seen a lot of him. 359 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: We've played yesterday. We haven't seen a lot of Austin Johnson. 360 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 5: And you know, reports are saying that Quinn Williams was 361 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 5: maybe on the table for the Jaguars to get him, 362 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 5: but he goes to Dallas. Nonetheless, this was a problem 363 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 5: all you know all preseason and now we're here, and 364 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 5: what you have is what you have, and unfortunately you 365 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 5: can't scheme out of this. 366 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 4: It's just. 367 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 5: You gotta do with what you got. 368 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: Guys gotta play better, and that. 369 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 6: Actually played pretty good football on Sunday. I gave him 370 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 6: that he was actually better. 371 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: And we'll dig deeper onto the defense coming up in 372 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: just a little bit. We're gonna flip it back to 373 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: offense and that offensive line when we return and some 374 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: of the injuries and what happened in the fourth quarter 375 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: or didn't happen in the fourth quarter offensively, not much 376 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: happened in the fourth quarter offensively for the Jaguars. A 377 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: busy two hours ahead and if you want customized Jaggs furniture, 378 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: for your home. Check out zipcare dot Common browse all 379 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: customizable options, Zip Chair Furniture for fans. 380 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 4: We've got a. 381 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: Long list to get through. 382 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 4: Tonight. 383 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: It is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans. 384 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,239 Speaker 4: You know, give all the credits them there. 385 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: They are really good defense. 386 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 7: So they made some plays today where you know, good 387 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 7: good defensive, good teams are going to make plays. But 388 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 7: also feel like we left some stuff out there that 389 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,719 Speaker 7: we had some opportunities and we just have to be 390 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 7: better and make those moving forward. 391 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: We need them. 392 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 7: You know, we got to play better offensively, We got 393 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 7: to move the ball better, got to score more. Had 394 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 7: a lot of short fields today and we just got 395 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 7: to take advantage of that and be able to, you know, 396 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 7: put a team away when you got them, when you 397 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 7: got them down that much, and you gotta be able 398 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 7: to finish and put the game away. 399 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: That is the quarterback Trevor Lawrence after the game in 400 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: Houston yesterday. Collapse the largest in Jaguars history, thirty six 401 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: to twenty nine final score Texans. With the victory, they 402 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: improved the four and five Jaguars fall to five and four, 403 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: and we're on tenen XL Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. 404 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: It is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans 405 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: plenty to get to. We'll dig deeper on the defensive 406 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: side of the football coming up in just a little bit, 407 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: but we'll stay on the offensive side here, and we're 408 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: gonna dig deeper into Trevor Lawrence's day and keeping it real. 409 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna fake it the first hour and a half 410 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: and then we'll get to keeping it real just a 411 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: little bit. We've talked through this offensive line, but let's 412 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they had some players down right. Ezra Cleveland 413 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: was out left guard. They were down to two tight 414 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: ends again yesterday, Hunter Long was out, McCarry goes down 415 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Harrison left the game. They were 416 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: missing some obviously. Brian Thomas Junior did not play in 417 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: the game. Parker Washington had I think one of his 418 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: better days obviously with the touchdown, a punt return touchdown. 419 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: But you know where are they with the skill guys 420 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: right now on this team in the running back Like 421 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: you said, they only ran for fifty eight yards for 422 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: ETN on sixteen carries, and you know, you could argue 423 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: they could have run it a little bit more in 424 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. 425 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, And if you're asking where they're at with their 426 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 5: skill guys, I mean, and we've been preaching this. I 427 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 5: feel like the past couple of games in terms of 428 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 5: what the game plans got to be, who your identity's 429 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 5: got to be. And I get you're paying your quarterback 430 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 5: a lot of money, but you want to see Travis 431 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 5: etn carry the workload and you want to see more 432 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 5: of running the football. And that's in the first half, 433 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 5: and that's the second half as well, you know, I think, 434 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 5: and I spear this before a little bit, I always 435 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 5: feel like sometimes in the second half, when the Jaguars 436 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 5: are up, it seems like Liam Cohen wants to get 437 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 5: his quarterback some more confidence and make him feel better 438 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 5: about everything. And I think in doing that sometimes you 439 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 5: lose back to the big picture of trying to win 440 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 5: a football game. And I think yesterday, you know, it 441 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 5: should have been winning the football game. Run the ball 442 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 5: in the second half, and they didn't really do that, 443 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 5: and then they went three and out, three and out, 444 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 5: three and out, and you put your defense up in 445 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 5: a bad position. 446 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 6: Well, here's the other thing you get the I can't 447 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 6: remember if it was after the turnover. 448 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: But they had a third and two. 449 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 6: And he ran a zone read and he handed it 450 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 6: to Etn and. 451 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 3: He got stuffed. If he pulls it, he walks in. 452 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 3: Do you remember that play? 453 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 5: Absolutely, he walks in. 454 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 3: What would lead you to hand that ball off and 455 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 3: not pull it and run with it? 456 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 6: I mean, those are the little things that are missing. 457 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 6: What was the penalty on the goal line when it 458 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 6: was it was a legal shift or illegal formation? Which 459 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 6: one was that when they threw the ball to Myers 460 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 6: on a member would have been a touchdown? 461 00:20:58,640 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 5: Start fall start? 462 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go another one, yeah, yeah. I mean 463 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: those are the little things they just kill you. I mean, 464 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 3: the prestaft penalties. Look, I'm with you. To run the ball. 465 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 3: They need to run the ball more, particularly with the 466 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: way the skill group is now, you know, constructed. But 467 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 3: I don't think they like in the second half when 468 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: they got they didn't have the ball that much in 469 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: that fourth quarter. But when they got the ball back 470 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 3: when they were when they had just scored to make 471 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 3: it twenty nine, what do you make it twenty nine? 472 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: Twenty four? 473 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 5: Yes? 474 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? What was that? Three three place seats? 475 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: I got you right here, Pete. It is twenty nine 476 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: twenty four Jaguars and the Jacks. 477 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: After the return the long return by tooting right. 478 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get the forty one yard return to the 479 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: Jaguars forty five yard line for twoton. So seven to 480 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: twenty nine to play and the Jags are up five. 481 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: So Trevor Lawrence scrambles left in he ran out of 482 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: bounds for three yards. 483 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 3: So they called it. They called a pass play. 484 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: Of course. Now etn left tackle for three yards. 485 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 6: On the ground should be by the way, he should 486 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 6: have been about a five yard game or seven yard 487 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 6: game because he they remember, they kind of ran a 488 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 6: crossbuck on that play where they run. 489 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: Him from from the wing and he came. 490 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 6: He missed, he missed, and there was a block that 491 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 6: needed to be held a little longer. 492 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: It would have been a bigger run. So it can't fall. 493 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 3: I mean that one wasn't on him, but it could 494 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 3: have been a better game. 495 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: Sets up third down and four at the Houston forty 496 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: nine right incomplete short left to Parker Washington. 497 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was getting pressured though, if I remember correctly. 498 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 6: So look, so you go pass, run pass, and you 499 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 6: use about what thirty five seconds in the play for 500 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 6: a minute. 501 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: They punted it back with six sixteen to go, so. 502 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: That that's something you got to look at that. Now. 503 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: I could also look at it from the standpoint, and 504 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 3: you got the ball at the forty four right and 505 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 3: that way, they were forty. 506 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 4: Five forty five yard on their own. 507 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 6: So even if so, you're in the back of your 508 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 6: mind you're saying, Okay, get me twenty, I'm getting a 509 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 6: field goal and make it eight. 510 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 3: Or if you don't get it, I'm gonna pumped them 511 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 3: back in and guy's gotta go to ninety three yards 512 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 3: to go beat me. 513 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 6: Well he did, he did, so that could also impact 514 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 6: the play call in there, you know what I mean, 515 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 6: You're not just trying to burn clock. You're trying to 516 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 6: get points out of that to make it an a 517 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 6: point game. And by the way, if you had kicked 518 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 6: the extra point, you would have been trying to make 519 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 6: it a nine point game. 520 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to that. 521 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: By the way, the I don't understand it. 522 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: Is you make the point, then they can't just get 523 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: a field goal. I mean you're right, I mean. 524 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you're see to me once again that see 525 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 5: that that play call in that moment, and I don't 526 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 5: know what the analytics say. 527 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: You know, I feel about analytics. 528 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 5: It seemed like they're say, hey, let's let's try this out. 529 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 5: Like it was almost like they're thinking, like, hey, they're 530 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 5: gonna come back and score a bunch of points on us, 531 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 5: so we better get this two point conversion. 532 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 4: Like you can't think like that. 533 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 5: So what understand that. 534 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 4: We go fight it again? 535 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 5: Hang on the third quarter? 536 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's see. Yeah they made it twenty three. 537 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: Oh that was the field goal. Oh here it is 538 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: twenty nine. Yeah, so it was one thirty seven ago 539 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: in the third. 540 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 6: Okay, so you're sitting there thinking, see here, here's where 541 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 6: I have a problem with it. 542 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 3: Twenty one points. You want to get it too, twenty one. 543 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 6: So the best case scenario is they tie if they 544 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 6: get three touchdowns. See the way I look at it 545 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 6: that way, if you kick your field you kick your 546 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 6: extra point, you still have the momentum. 547 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: By not getting the two point play, you kind of 548 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 3: flipped it a little gave them some life. That one 549 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 3: made no sense to me, And I don't know what 550 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 3: the analytics say either, Pete. 551 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 5: What did the analytics say about Davis mill Is going 552 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 5: to lead them to a fourth quarter comeback? Right down 553 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 5: by nineteen. Like, what did the analytics say about. 554 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: The Jaguars in franchise history, I've never lost a nineteen point. 555 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 3: So what would you have done? You would have kicked too. 556 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 5: I'd have kicked it absolutely, Yeah, you kick it, get 557 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 5: your point. 558 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 3: Make it twenty, yes, make it twenty. And if they 559 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 3: had that point, then you go get a field goal 560 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: in the. 561 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 6: Game's over because it'd be nine. Yeah, So I mean 562 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 6: you gotta always spin it forward a little bit. I 563 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 6: didn't understand that one at. 564 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 3: All at all. But but the bottom line is they 565 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: didn't burn clock. Even having done that, you're still supposed 566 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 3: to stop Davis Mills. You're still supposed to. 567 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 6: The third down play where they hit the cross to 568 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 6: Scholtz and they blitzed. That was a blitz, and they 569 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 6: got manned the man across the field they beat a 570 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 6: lua kon and. 571 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: And that was a That was a blitz blitz right there. 572 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 3: Nobody got home. 573 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: Well, we're going to dig into the defense again when 574 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: we come back and figure it out. 575 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 3: And one quick thing, the interception. 576 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 6: If he hits Trammel in front of him, he runs 577 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 6: for about twenty five yards. 578 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 3: By the way, it's a bad throw. It's a terrible 579 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: great play by Stingley throw. 580 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: All right, Well, get back onto the offensive side of 581 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: hour number two and take a deeper look at the 582 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: quarterback play. But we return. Yeah, we'll dig deeper into 583 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: the defense as well. And an awful fourth quarter for 584 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars resulting in a loss. Maybe we'll get 585 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: better next week when the La Chargers come to town Sunday, 586 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: November sixteenth, The Angles salute the service game and join 587 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: us as we honor and celebrate the brave men and 588 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: women of our military all game long. Get your seats 589 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 1: now at Jaguars dot com. Slash tickets are called nine 590 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: oh four six three three two thousand on Tien Tex Lam, 591 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com and Jaguars YouTube. This is Jaguars Happy 592 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: Hour presented by Jet Home Loans. 593 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 2: The whole message was to squeeze the life out of 594 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 2: these guys in the second half and go take it, 595 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 2: go take it. And it's been a frustration for a 596 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 2: while now, obviously the combination of lack of getting to 597 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: the quarterback and when we do finishing it, but it 598 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 2: definitely needs to continue to get it evaluated and see 599 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 2: who can help us. 600 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: Do those things too, that is the head coach. After 601 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: the game yesterday we heard again from Liam Cohen today, 602 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: we'll hear some of those comments coming up a little 603 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: later on Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans 604 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: on this Monday, after the Week ten collapse, Jaguars fall 605 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: in Houston thirty six twenty nine, the final score after 606 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: carrying a nineteen point lead into the fourth quarter of 607 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: the Jaguars collapse twenty six unanswered points for the Houston Texans, 608 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: and the aftermath today and the defense under the microscope 609 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: again here on Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwrick Austin Lane 610 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville and Hundai Studios, and Pete Prisco's CBS 611 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: Sports senior writer down in South Florida. Two sacks yesterday, 612 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: one from Antonio Johnson, one from Eric Armstead, but not 613 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: much when it mattered late in those passing situations when 614 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: they're down by three scores and trying to climb back 615 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: into a game with the backup quarterback and backup offensive lineman. 616 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: So you know, what else can they do on the 617 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: defensive line? Do you start sitting guys down and giving 618 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: some younger guys a chance. Strigo bj Green, Like, what's 619 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: that's all that's left? 620 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 3: Right? 621 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 4: I mean that? 622 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: Yes, go ahead, Yeah, No, I was gonna say, Strigo 623 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 3: plays hard and he's tough, like when the polar comes down, 624 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 3: he'll blast the polar. 625 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 6: I mean he's that kind of player. But what are 626 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 6: you gonna get from him as a pass rusher? That's 627 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 6: not what he is. You see any twitchiness from him? 628 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 3: I mean, do you see any twitch nists from Green? 629 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 3: Have you seen that? 630 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, well, I mean we haven't had a 631 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: lot of time on task either, by the way, so. 632 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 6: The only thing you can I think something they can 633 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 6: do is make Walker play inside. 634 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: More travon Walker, Yeah, yeah. 635 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 3: He ain't winning outside. 636 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. But then comes the question, Pete, then who do 637 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 4: you replace him with? 638 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: Like? 639 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 4: Is smooth going outside? 640 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: He's see Smooth looks like me, And I think Smooth's 641 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: age is impacted him. 642 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 6: He doesn't play a ton of snaps. I think that's 643 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 6: impacted him a little bit. He also looks like he's 644 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 6: gotten heavy. 645 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 3: When you watch the tape at times when you if 646 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: you don't see the number, you go, is that soln 647 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 3: Ners or is that Smooth? 648 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: Oh? 649 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 4: Come on, that's aggressive? 650 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: He's gotten look at him. If you ever noticed he's 651 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: bigger than he's been. 652 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, yeah, he does appear a little bit bigger. 653 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 5: I mean if the question, though, is like, what can 654 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 5: you do jp to to try to put a band 655 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 5: aid on this? 656 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 4: I guess. 657 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 5: I mean, first you have to look at it and say, okay, 658 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 5: well you can't get home with four like, it's simply 659 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 5: not gonna happen. And unless you're playing a very porous 660 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 5: offensive line, which I thought the Texans were, so I 661 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 5: don't know, give me a worst offensive line than Texans 662 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 5: were yesterday, I don't know. If you're gonna face it, 663 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 5: we'll see. But unless you face that, you have to blitz, 664 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 5: you have to send the house. But I think you 665 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 5: can go about it and ser in ways. I think 666 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 5: when this defense was playing at its highest level was 667 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 5: when they brought everybody in the box and then they 668 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 5: drop guys out. You don't know who is gonna rush, right. 669 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 5: I think they've kind of gone away from that a 670 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 5: little bit. I think they simplified things a little more, 671 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,239 Speaker 5: just because with the players that you have, right, like, 672 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 5: you've lost some starters in the back end, so you 673 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 5: can't probably do your full play with what you want 674 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 5: to do. And there's some defenses that specialize the Houston 675 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 5: Texans and just running their base defense because they have 676 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 5: the skill positions to do that. The Jaguars don't have that. 677 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 5: So you have to disguise things you have to, you know, 678 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 5: give a certain look and then do something completely opposite 679 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 5: or that. And I'm not sure the players can handle 680 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 5: that right now, but you gotta at least try to 681 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 5: because it's it's not working with what you have. 682 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Liam Cohen today said the status close is not 683 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: an option in this area. So something's gonna happen mm hm, 684 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: whether it's scheme or having different guys up or down 685 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: or whatever. 686 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 3: Look, you gotta change what you do. I'm with Austin, 687 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 3: go after them if you get beat, I mean, you know, 688 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 3: and they're going to get beat because the two safeties 689 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 3: can't run. I mean what you know. I'm not gonna 690 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 3: say Antonio Johnson can run. He just gets caught out 691 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 3: of position all the time. Winger can't run, and so 692 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: that's a problem. 693 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 6: Montarek Brown can't run, so you're not fast, and that 694 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 6: that's where you have issues when you try and do 695 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 6: all the things that you know. Look, everybody would like 696 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 6: to be able to go attack the quarterback and blitz 697 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 6: the hell out of them. 698 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: The problem is is the people that hold up on 699 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 3: the back end, and they don't. But they're tied for 700 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 3: what They're tied. 701 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 6: For thirtieth in the league with one point three sacks 702 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 6: per game. 703 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah that's not good. 704 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 705 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 3: How many sacks do the expensive edge rushers have. 706 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: Let's see, I'm going to look around the NFL right now, 707 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: the top sack guys. Miles Garrett has eleven sacks right now. 708 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 3: No, no, I'm talking about on this team. How many 709 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 3: does Dravon Walker and Josh Hinzell. 710 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 4: It's not much. 711 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: It's four and a half for Armstead, two for hinds Allen, 712 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: two for Walker. 713 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: You have four sacks in nine games from your edge rushers. 714 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, think about this. Miles Garrett has eleven sacks. The 715 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: Jags have twelve as a team. 716 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 3: And here's the other thing. 717 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 6: The selling predicted last year that those two guys would 718 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 6: have twenty five. 719 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 3: Remember, and he was, he was, He got it right. 720 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 3: They ain't getting twenty five this year under his watch. 721 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 3: Maybe he wants to go back in that seat. He 722 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 3: ended up getting twenty five this year. 723 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 5: No, Well, I mean, yeah, go ahead of you. 724 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 3: Well they're not. 725 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 6: I mean they're which one who on that team? Do 726 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 6: you have to come to the line of scrimmage and go, 727 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 6: that's it? He's in And look. 728 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 3: I think Jiss finz Allen is a really good football 729 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 3: player and a good pass rusher, But twitchy is not 730 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: what he is. He's you know, he's just he would 731 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 3: be great if he had somebody. He'd be great, great 732 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 3: if he had somebody on the other side that could 733 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 3: give them For example, imagine how could he be if 734 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 3: Hutchinson was on the other side from him. 735 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think that they're in complete desperation 736 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 5: mode in terms of getting their quarterback because there's kind 737 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 5: of a couple of unwritten rules. As a defensive lineman 738 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 5: when the balls like on the seven or inside the 739 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 5: seven yard line and your opponent's going in the red 740 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 5: zone and everything they're going in to score, you don't 741 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 5: run games when you're that close to the goal line 742 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 5: because everything comes out quicker right, and games take time 743 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 5: to develop. If you go back and watch yesterday, watch 744 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 5: how many times guys were trying to set screw you know, 745 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 5: picks in and run games where the exits Texas when 746 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 5: the ball is like on the two yards, like, you 747 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 5: can't do that, And then they were trying to do 748 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 5: that just because they feel like they can't get home. 749 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 5: Watch what Houston was doing yesterday where if they couldn't 750 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 5: get home, what are they doing. They're getting their hands up, 751 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 5: They're trying to fleck the ball down like It's just 752 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 5: it's basic principles of a defense that you're not really 753 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 5: seeing with this team right now. And once again, go ahead. 754 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 6: Oh no, I was gonna say, Austin, do you remember 755 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 6: the one play where you talk about stunning and Walker 756 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 6: looped around. 757 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 3: And when he looped around, he ran into three Jaguar players. 758 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: They all were in the middle of you remember, yeah, yeah, 759 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 3: and nobody got near them. Yeah, they ran into each other. 760 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 761 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just there's just fundamental You're right. The 762 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: fundamentals at times are bad, you know. 763 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 6: And heinz Allen does get chipped a lot because there 764 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 6: isn't anything on really on the other side, so they 765 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 6: put the tight end over there and he has to 766 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 6: deal with that on a Sunday though he was handled 767 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 6: by that rookie. That rookie, the rookie he dominated the 768 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 6: last time out handled him on Sunday, which that's. 769 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 3: Not a good look, guys. 770 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: Another concerning thing was the final drive for Houston where 771 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: they're driving down the field. They're running the football on 772 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: this team too. I mean the Jags gave up sixty 773 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: three rushing yards in the fourth quarter, most of that 774 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: on that final Tensions possession to take the leady cashing 775 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: them five seven, ten, two different packs. 776 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 5: And once again, I think that comes down to more 777 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 5: exhaustion than anything. Okay, right, Like if if you watch 778 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 5: that Davis Mills twelve orerever thirteen yard run that touchdown, 779 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 5: watch the defensive line how they react to it. I mean, 780 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 5: the games on the line. Davis Mills is that quarterback, 781 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 5: and I'm not seeing one hundred percent effort trying to 782 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 5: go after I think I'm going to err on the 783 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 5: side of these guys were exhausted. 784 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 4: Now is that an excuse? 785 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 5: I mean, take it for what you want, but I 786 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 5: think guys were tired, man, and and you saw it. 787 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 5: And once again this is an example of complimentary football. 788 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 4: We are not helping your defense out here. 789 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 6: It is Walker put his hands, watch watching watch, I mean, 790 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 6: is that full speed? 791 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 4: I don't think so that's that's not full speed. 792 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 3: But the game there's three seconds you're talking about watch watching. 793 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 4: Here Harry arm Instead, Uh. 794 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, Armstead, and we don't know what Lloyd was doing. 795 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 4: Guys are exhausted. 796 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I mean, if you're going to run 797 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 5: full speed with thirty seconds left with the game on 798 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 5: the line against a divisional opponent who should be one 799 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 5: of your biggest rivals, I don't know what to tell you. 800 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 4: I think guys retired. 801 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: Well, Houston was on the field the same amount of 802 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: plays on offense of that drive too, but yeay, So 803 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: I mean that after the third and ten from the 804 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 1: seven completion for twenty yards, it was five yard run, 805 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: six yard run for a first down, five yard run 806 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: pass for a first down. Twelve couples on that drive, 807 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: twelve yard run from Chubb, seven yard run from Chubb, 808 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: and then they started throwing it around. 809 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 6: There we go and then they then they once they 810 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 6: started throwing it around, nobody blew on them. 811 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 3: They weren't near the right and again narrow, they didn't 812 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 3: get narrow. I mean he stood back there all day. 813 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 3: Well yeah, it's not look, it's it's lack of talent 814 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 3: combined with that talent prevent you from doing things you 815 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 3: need to do. 816 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: Did the takeaways early in the season, Mascal out of 817 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: the these. 818 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 5: Issues, I mean, I think without a doubt because even 819 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 5: when you had the takeaways and listen, take nothing with 820 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 5: from the takeaways pun intended. But like when you talk about, like, 821 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 5: you know, the the Lloyd interception against Patrick Mahomes, Yeah, 822 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 5: like that was a good play on Lloyd, right, Like 823 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 5: he watched Patrick Mahomes eyes, he went to the ball, 824 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 5: caught it ninety nine yard whatever, interception or touchdown, Like 825 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 5: that's a great play, But like that can mask sometimes 826 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 5: the lack of pass rush, right, And I think that's 827 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 5: kind of the story all year, like when they were 828 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 5: winning and we're defensive creating turnovers, well, well a lot 829 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 5: of the turnovers created because the defensive line was getting 830 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,919 Speaker 5: home or were they more of just kind of bad 831 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 5: passes and the safety maybe be in the right spot, right, 832 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 5: they might have rushed. 833 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: The execution of the throw a little bit. 834 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, much though not much. 835 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: I mean the ball is fluttering up there sometimes. 836 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 5: I don't know. 837 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,479 Speaker 3: Hey, I think one guy on defense who did play well, 838 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 3: Jari and Jones played. 839 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 5: Well interception and not just the interception. 840 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 6: He played, made a couple of tackles beyond the line. 841 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 6: He was a great So he played some goods good plays. Again, 842 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 6: it's funny you go to the offensive and defensive side 843 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 6: of the ball and you say, who was the best 844 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 6: offensive player Parker. 845 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 3: Washington, Parker, Yeah, who was the best defensive player? Jarian Jones. 846 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 3: Jorian Jones wasn't even playing in Parker Washington. You expect 847 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 3: him to be the third or fourth option. Parker Washington 848 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 3: is a gamer. He's a gamer. And by the way, 849 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 3: there was a play late in that game, maybe not late, 850 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 3: but third quarter where he has Stingley in a one 851 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 3: on one situation and he beats him off the line 852 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 3: and the ball got batted down in the line of scrimmage. 853 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 3: I think he had him on the inside. And so 854 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 3: Parker Washington best. When Parker Washington is the best player 855 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 3: on your offense and Jarian Jones is the best player 856 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 3: in your defense, that's a problem. 857 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 5: And this's ask the question. Yeah, in terms of saladar 858 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 5: cap where they getting paid, They're done. I mean, don't 859 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 5: look it up, JP, It's it's down the list. 860 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 4: It way down, it's way down the list. Was that 861 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 4: p I on Jarion Pete. 862 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he. 863 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 4: Pulled his left arm, That's what I thought. 864 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, they were now they were hand jockeying and pushed 865 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 6: it off and stuff against each other a little bit. 866 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 3: But he if he hadn't held on, it wouldn't have been. 867 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 3: But he held on, so it was. But he made plays, 868 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 3: I give it, and that should be encouraging because I 869 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 3: think he lost his confidence a little bit. 870 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, and I like Jerian Jones. 871 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 5: Going back from last year when Trevor got you know, 872 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 5: the cheap hit and everything like that, Jones. 873 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 4: Was the first guy to go after everybody. 874 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and then Doug Peterson, obviously Lamb based 875 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 5: on him, said we don't do that here, which I 876 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 5: completely disagreed with it. 877 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 3: I disagree with you. 878 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 5: That's a that's a guy that you want on the field, 879 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 5: I feel like, and in your locker room. 880 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 3: So he should have scored. He should have scored by 881 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 3: the way. He should have been a yeah. 882 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, but Roker. In terms of that penalty though, it's 883 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 5: funny because when I watched it full speed, I'm like, yeah, 884 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 5: that's a penalty. When they slowed it down a little 885 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 5: more and it's the hand fighting. Then it's like, okay, 886 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 5: that was kind of ticky tack. But yeah, watching it 887 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 5: in real time, I thought, for shure they throw. 888 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 6: It was ticky tack, no question was stick attacked. But 889 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 6: he did kind of hold the arm so he couldn't 890 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 6: get it up. So it was actually most if his 891 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 6: name was Sauce Gardner or Patrick Shirtan or Derek Stingley, 892 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 6: he gets away with that. 893 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, So let's come back in a moment. 894 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 4: We'll take a look at special teams. 895 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: Some big plays there for this Jaguars team yesterday in 896 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: a losing effort though unfortunately, and from the backyard of 897 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 1: the beaches. The Ford F one fifty with available pro 898 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: power on board gives you the power of a mobile generator. 899 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: Ford proud partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. See your local 900 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: Ford dealer today. Coming up in the second hour, just 901 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: a little bit. While the fan questions, we'll keep it 902 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: real about the quarterback, we'll go around the National Football 903 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: League all ahead. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by 904 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: Jet Home Loans. 905 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 8: The very first part return, I was upset. Now I 906 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 8: got tackled because a definitely a big too. So we 907 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 8: got another opportunity. I caught it. I just saw a 908 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 8: whole bunch of guys and I was like, let's make 909 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 8: a miss, let's make. 910 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 3: A long miss. 911 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 8: And I was a funner and it was cool to 912 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 8: make a play. But like, we fell short, but we're 913 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 8: gonna come back. 914 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,720 Speaker 1: In responding Parker Washington, a seventy two yard punt return 915 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: touchdown in the game yesterday opened up a three score 916 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: advantage seventeen to nothing at that point. Jaguars later led 917 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: by nineteen going into the fourth quarter and lost the 918 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: game thirty six twenty nine the final score. Welcome back, 919 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: It is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans, 920 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: JP Shadwick, Austin Lane, Pete Prisco. Final moments of this 921 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: opening hour of the program, and let's end on the 922 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: bright spot in this first hour with Parker Washington. Yes, 923 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: you had the great toe tapping catch for a touchdown 924 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: earlier in the game, which was fantastic in the back line. 925 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,720 Speaker 1: And then his third career punt return score later seventy 926 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: two yards. All three in his career are on deep 927 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: punts that drive him backwards and all of a sudden 928 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: he's got fifteen yards or so. Of space, and this 929 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: one was like a hesitation, let me see what opens, 930 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: and then. 931 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 4: Boom, he's gone. 932 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: And he knew it at about the forty five yard 933 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: line that all the only guy left was the punter 934 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: and this was a fantastic return for Parker. 935 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 4: I thought this was the. 936 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 5: Game right here, honestly, like like when we saw this 937 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 5: in terms of momentum and everything, and you want to 938 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 5: talk about bearing your opponent. I get it was just 939 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 5: in the second quarter to starting it out, but I 940 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 5: thought this was the nail in the coffin right here 941 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 5: in the in the second quarter, like unreal. 942 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 4: And obviously they come back and you know, the Jaguars lose. 943 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 5: But I kind of felt back to Parker in that 944 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 5: interview because I've been there, Ryert, you had the game 945 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 5: of your life, right like, they can't tell you anything, 946 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 5: and you got to keep it reserved because even though 947 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 5: you did your part, your team didn't and it might 948 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 5: have been the worst loss, you know, in franchise history. 949 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 3: You know, he's let's not forget he had one call 950 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 3: back too. 951 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 4: Yeah that's right earlier this year. 952 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's on his way to the Pro Bowl. 953 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 3: I mean, he's the Pro Bowl return now Barbar Turner. 954 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 6: So look the kid, like I said earlier, you give 955 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 6: me guys like him, and I'm gonna win football games. 956 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 3: He plays hard. You could tell he loves it. 957 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 6: You could tell he lives it, and he competes every 958 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 6: single play. 959 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 3: I mean, like this catch was amazing. Yeah, I mean 960 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 3: I watched that play on the twenty two and I'm 961 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 3: trying to figure out shouldn't even have been thrown there? 962 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: Where was the other option? 963 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 3: Well, he could have checked it down. You had the back. 964 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 6: What you gotta do is the corner sunk, So you 965 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 6: got to make the corner and make a decision between 966 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 6: if you look at it. I think you can see 967 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 6: it when you show the overhead one. But he could 968 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 6: have Look, you'll see see you watched the corner. See 969 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 6: how you got seventeen there? You got to you gotta 970 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 6: make him. You gotta make him hold him a little 971 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 6: bit and if he doesn't, then you throw it to 972 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 6: that guy. 973 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 3: If he does and you throw to him, I think 974 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 3: that that was the decision on that play. Well, but 975 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 3: great play. It was a great play. I mean he 976 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 3: made a great and the kid made a great play. 977 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 5: Watching this game back too, was the game plan to 978 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 5: try to pick on Stingley Junior, because last time I 979 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 5: checked around, I feel like he's one of the best 980 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 5: corners in the league, and for whatever reason, they kept 981 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 5: trying to put him to the test. And I didn't 982 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 5: understand why. 983 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 6: The other guy's pretty good, blasted is pretty good and stingy. 984 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 6: But and you know what, though as much as you 985 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 6: we think that the why'd you keep going at him? 986 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 3: They got they got him. I mean Trammel had him 987 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 3: on that throw. Yeah, and he And then I told 988 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 3: you there were plays where Parker Washington beat him with 989 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 3: some quick There's a play where Parker Washington puts his 990 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 3: move on him and you look at it and you 991 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 3: go the footwork was incredible and he left Stingley standing 992 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 3: there and if he was able to throw the ball 993 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 3: in the middle of field, it's going to be a touchdown, 994 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 3: so or not, maybe not a touchdown, but a big play. Yeah. 995 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 6: Look, he's a gamer. Kudos to him. You can just 996 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 6: tell it's important to him. 997 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 3: And you're right. 998 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 6: He wanted to say everything he wanted to say about 999 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 6: him so but he couldn't because. 1000 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 1: He blew ninety so unbelievable. 1001 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 3: Enjoy it, buddy, you did it. 1002 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, seventy three yard of punt return officially. Also, Tooton 1003 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,720 Speaker 1: had a forty one yard kickoff return that we mentioned 1004 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 1: brief you earlier. But Parker Washington the first NFL player 1005 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 1: since Nahem Hines of Indy and twenty nineteen with two 1006 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: punt return touchdowns in a season and the second Jags 1007 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: player in franchise history with a receiving touchdown and a 1008 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: punt return touchdown in the same game. And that was 1009 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: Keelan cole Back in twenty twenty. 1010 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 4: At Green Bay. 1011 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 5: Wow. 1012 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,280 Speaker 4: Okay, a game I don't remember during COVID. 1013 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry, it was a COVID. 1014 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: It was a little weird. It was a weird one, 1015 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: but it worked. So it's yeah, he's doing stuff. It 1016 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 1: doesn't really happen too much. 1017 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 7: Well. 1018 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 4: And then also too, we're talking special teams. 1019 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 5: I mean, props once again to Cam Big as I 1020 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 5: call him now, because dude was money again, you know, 1021 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 5: like lost, lost, lost in all this, lost in the 1022 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 5: horrible loss. But oh and man, they would have aligned 1023 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 5: him up for a sixty one yard or there at 1024 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 5: the end, yeah, to win it. Yeah, if in the 1025 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 5: face doesn't happen, yeah, yeah. 1026 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 6: And then can I just ask one quick question, what 1027 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 6: the hell was that on the third on the final 1028 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 6: play of the game. 1029 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 5: Oh with it. 1030 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 3: By the way, it wasn't a hell mayor. 1031 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,320 Speaker 1: No, No, I think they were trying to go to 1032 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: the boundary again. 1033 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know, but it just it was taking 1034 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 4: too long the boundary. 1035 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 5: I don't know, man, it was like six seconds, right, yeah, yeah, 1036 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 5: I mean you you got to go for the zone 1037 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 5: there like anything you caught in bounds was going to 1038 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 5: be over for you. 1039 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,959 Speaker 6: They didn't run anybody to the end zone. They didn't 1040 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 6: run zone. Yeah, not one person. 1041 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 3: So I think they got caught not realizing what they 1042 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 3: needed to do in that scenario. But the way, but 1043 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 3: did you see the way Liam comed through the headset 1044 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 3: and everything down. 1045 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's some perception out there that that was directed 1046 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 6: as his quarterback. 1047 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 3: I don't buy that. 1048 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: I think it's directed at the nineteen point lead that 1049 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: they blew. 1050 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what that's what I think. 1051 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 5: I think. Since I'm the limb con thing quick and 1052 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 5: at the break, we talked about this a little more 1053 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 5: the press conference, where I felt like he kind of 1054 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 5: put the defense on blast a little bit, so. 1055 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 3: He didn't back down from it today, right, he did. 1056 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 4: So I kind of want to Yeah, I kind of 1057 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 4: want to address that a little bit. 1058 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll dig into all of it when we come 1059 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: back one hour down, one hour to go. We'll keep 1060 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: it real about the quarterback and yes, fan questions as well. 1061 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 1: Shaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans. 1062 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 9: Yeah, we just talked about as a team that you know, 1063 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 9: this game can't beat us again, it can't beat us 1064 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,760 Speaker 9: on Sunday at one pm because we're kicking off against 1065 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 9: the Chargers and I have a very quality opponent coming 1066 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 9: into town. We're back at you know, we're at home 1067 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 9: and uh nothing, you know, nobody cares. 1068 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 3: Nobody cares. 1069 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 9: It's just the next opportunity that we have to go 1070 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 9: try to get an I mean, that's the reality, is 1071 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 9: that we gave up a nineteen point lead in the 1072 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,879 Speaker 9: fourth quarter essentially and didn't get it done. Their back 1073 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 9: was against the wall and they'd played like it. 1074 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: Said coach William Cohen today on a Zoom conversation with 1075 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,720 Speaker 1: the media, the day after a nineteen point fourth quarter 1076 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,919 Speaker 1: lead lost and a game lost in Houston thirty six 1077 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: twenty nine. In the final score, Jags fall to five 1078 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 1: and four and welcome back. Second hour of Jaguars Happy 1079 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: Hour is presented by Mister Chubby's Wings before the game, 1080 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: after the game, and during the game. We're on ten 1081 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 1: to next Lamjaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP, Shadrick with 1082 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 1: you and of course yes, the Jaguars led seventeen to nothing. 1083 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: They took advantage of two early takeaways to build a 1084 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 1: lead and then a punt return touchdown to make it seventeen. 1085 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 1: They led twenty nine to ten entering the fourth quarter, 1086 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 1: but then the Texans outscored the Jags twenty six nothing 1087 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 1: in the fourth for a stunning thirty six twenty nine. 1088 00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 5: Win over the Jags. 1089 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: It was the largest blown lead in franchise history in 1090 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,240 Speaker 1: a losing result. 1091 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 4: The Jags actually lost. 1092 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: A twenty four point lead in London in twenty fifteen 1093 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: against the Bills, but ended up winning the game anyway. 1094 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: The defense couldn't get off the field against the backup 1095 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: O line and backup quarterback, especially late in the game. 1096 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: The offense only one first down in the fourth quarter 1097 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 1: and eleven yards of offense. Parker Washington, though the bright 1098 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 1: spot a touchdown catch seventy four yard punt return touchdown 1099 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: and the Jags Currently though, even after all this, the 1100 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars are the number seven seed in the AFC playoffs 1101 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 1: if it ended today, and it sets up a pivotal 1102 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: AFC matchup this week the number five seed. At the 1103 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,280 Speaker 1: moment the Chargers come to town, they're chasing the Broncos 1104 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 1: in the AFC West, but a winner with the Chargers 1105 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 1: for the Jags would go a long way towards getting 1106 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 1: back on track here and setting things up for the 1107 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 1: stretch run Austin Lane with me here in the Hundai 1108 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 1: Studios in Jacksonville, Pete Prisco down in South Florida. Plenty 1109 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: to dissect in this game, of course, and now moving 1110 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,240 Speaker 1: ahead with eight games to go in the regular season, 1111 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: how do you feel about that playoff graphic? 1112 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 5: Pete? 1113 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,760 Speaker 3: That doesn't look like a playoff team that we saw yesterday. 1114 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 6: You know, it's funny because last week they struggled with 1115 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 6: the with the Raiders, and you said the Raiders aren't 1116 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 6: very good. That's not and then the Raiders go to 1117 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 6: Denver and had a legitimate chance. 1118 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 4: To win that game, right, ten to seven? 1119 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 3: Right? I mean, look, you look at the AMC. Every 1120 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 3: team in that has flaws. Every one of them. You know, 1121 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 3: the Broncos in the two seed right now. The dead 1122 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:33,760 Speaker 3: offense is awful. 1123 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 6: I mean, the Colts have played well, but there's still 1124 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 6: some concerns there. The Patriots haven't really Now, go to 1125 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 6: Tampa and win in on Sunday proves a lot about them. 1126 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,800 Speaker 6: And by the way, they're gonna end up with the 1127 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 6: number one seed in the AFC. Have you seen their schedule? 1128 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 6: Oh my god, the next three weeks. 1129 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 3: It's Jets Bengal, No, Jets, Bengals, Giants before they're by Yeah, 1130 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 3: they're to have a ten game winning stream. 1131 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: Wow. 1132 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 5: And so they lost to Las Vegas week one, plus 1133 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,760 Speaker 5: lost to the Raiders week one and. 1134 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 3: Lost to the Steelers too. I mean that's another one. 1135 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 6: And so when you look at it, every team has flaws, 1136 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 6: but Jacksonville has right now, has a ton of flaws. 1137 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 5: What's good, Well, it's not even what. 1138 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 4: What's their identity? 1139 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 5: Like, I can go to Denver right now and I 1140 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 5: can give you that team identity. 1141 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 3: Now. 1142 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 4: It may not be pretty. 1143 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,919 Speaker 5: Bon Nicks may not be being his best football right now, 1144 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 5: but they have an identity. They play great defense, they 1145 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 5: can run the football, and every once in a while, 1146 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 5: bon Nicks will make a good throw. 1147 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: Right. 1148 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 5: I can go to New England right now and say 1149 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 5: they're gonna pound the rock. Drake May doesn't turn the 1150 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 5: ball over. Their offensive line can be a little poor sometimes, 1151 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,280 Speaker 5: but like they have all the skills to win football games. 1152 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 5: I can go top and down on that list and 1153 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 5: give you each identity. 1154 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 3: And they stop the run. 1155 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 5: And they stopped the run. 1156 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 1157 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 5: I go to Jacksonville, I say, I don't know. I 1158 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 5: guess they can run the football. It's about it when 1159 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 5: they on the football, when they run the football. 1160 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,800 Speaker 3: But that's the other part. What do they do well? What? What? 1161 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 3: What does that team do well? 1162 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 4: Return punts? 1163 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 1: Really? Yes, yes, really well? 1164 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:12,919 Speaker 3: Right? 1165 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 6: But what else? They don't rush? They're one of the 1166 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 6: worst pass rushing teams in the league. The offensive line 1167 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 6: isn't great in run blocking or protecting. 1168 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 3: They have no skin. 1169 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 6: You know, Parker Washington is a nice player, but he 1170 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,320 Speaker 6: should be your number one option. And I mean the 1171 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 6: quarterback's not playing very well. So what do they do? 1172 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,919 Speaker 6: They don't cover very well? What do they do well? 1173 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: They're a top ten run defense, but when it mattered yesterday, 1174 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:39,879 Speaker 1: they weren't on the last drive. 1175 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 3: And I'm going to give Hamilton credit. 1176 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 6: Like I said earlier, I think he's actually played pretty 1177 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 6: good for them. 1178 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 1: Other than that, you know, I you know, I think 1179 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: you're right. What do you hang your hat on right now? 1180 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? Now there's is there? 1181 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,399 Speaker 1: Is it too late in this season to find things 1182 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: to hang your hat on? No, there's eight games. 1183 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 5: You have to find something, right if you're a coach, 1184 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 5: if you're Liam Cohen, you got to find something. But 1185 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 5: this kind of goes back to what I teased going 1186 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,799 Speaker 5: in the break a little bit, where you know, I 1187 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 5: feel like Liam Cohen's been pretty harsh on the defense, 1188 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 5: and now the media person of me loves this because 1189 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,919 Speaker 5: he's not like it is the defense lost him the game. 1190 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,879 Speaker 5: I mean, we can all sit here and say that's 1191 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 5: the truth. We got an issue with that, But the 1192 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,720 Speaker 5: player in me goes, okay, yes, if I'm on that defense, 1193 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 5: we lost the game, and you're already feeling, you know, 1194 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 5: a certain type of way about it already. But then 1195 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 5: as a defender, I can go, okay, but what did 1196 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 5: the offense do to help us? Out? Right? And when 1197 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,280 Speaker 5: you're an offensive oriented coach, when you're the play caller, 1198 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 5: I feel like and Pete, you know, this. An NFL 1199 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 5: locker room is a delicate ecosystem, and it's even more 1200 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 5: delicate when you lose a football game. The last thing 1201 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 5: you want to do is just put somebody in the 1202 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 5: corner and say this is kind of the reason why 1203 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 5: we lost, even though it could be the truth, even 1204 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 5: though the fans, media people will be yeah, he's not wrong. 1205 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 4: You gotta be carefu with how you come across to 1206 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:01,720 Speaker 4: your players. 1207 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,400 Speaker 5: This is why a lot of coaches in the NFL 1208 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:08,800 Speaker 5: give you the the boring answers, give you the vanilla answers, 1209 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 5: because they're protecting what they say from players. I don't 1210 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 5: think Liam Collen cares about that, and I celebrate we 1211 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 5: all celebrate him because of that. But you kind of 1212 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 5: have to teeter titter that line and say, Okay, if 1213 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 5: you want to put this all on the defense, just 1214 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,439 Speaker 5: be careful because there's guys in there that you're paying 1215 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 5: a lot of money to that might take it the 1216 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 5: wrong way. 1217 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,239 Speaker 1: So you do think you don't think you saying the 1218 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:32,439 Speaker 1: same thing behind closed doors? Yes, I mean I hope, so, yeah, 1219 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,320 Speaker 1: closed doors. What's the difference without saying in the meeting. 1220 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 5: Because there's the thing I don't know what he's saying 1221 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,800 Speaker 5: behind closed doors. I didn't get to see the video 1222 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 5: after the game when they lost. 1223 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 4: Correct, I see it when they win. I don't know 1224 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:45,720 Speaker 4: what it's like when he loses. 1225 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 6: Here's the other part of the thing, though, of all 1226 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 6: the other places, offensive line, wide receiver, defensive backfield, the 1227 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 6: four guys that were supposed to start to see so 1228 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 6: that defensive line are playing true, true, And that's where 1229 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 6: I think the frustration comes from. You have a high 1230 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,840 Speaker 6: paid pass rusher who was a first round pick in 1231 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 6: heinz Allen. You have a high paid number one overall 1232 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 6: pass rusher in Trayvon Walker. 1233 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 3: You have Armstead who makes a good chunk of change 1234 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 3: as a veteran interior player. And you have Hamilton who 1235 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 3: was a third round pick and we look now he 1236 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:28,320 Speaker 3: makes pretty good money. 1237 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,439 Speaker 6: So that's where I think the frustration comes in more 1238 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 6: than any You know, you don't have your skilled people. 1239 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,800 Speaker 6: There's no skill people that impacts the quarterback. The offensive 1240 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,520 Speaker 6: line had guys banged up in and out, and then 1241 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 6: Walker has been playing with a club. But the club 1242 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 6: is now his hand out of it now and basically 1243 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 6: he can use it. And even when he didn't have 1244 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 6: a club before he wasn't doing much, so I think 1245 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,839 Speaker 6: that's where the frustration comes in. 1246 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes players got to play us. 1247 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 5: No listen, I get players got to play it. But 1248 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,799 Speaker 5: like I said, it's a delicate ecosystem, especially after a 1249 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 5: loss like that and hopefully hopefully that once again j 1250 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 5: because I don't know what the message is behind the scenes, 1251 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,840 Speaker 5: because I don't get to see it. I get to 1252 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 5: see it when you win, I get to see all 1253 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 5: that everyone you know, giving praise all it sounds great 1254 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 5: and everything. That's fun. Yeah, you're winning football games. Put 1255 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 5: the cameras in there, put out a good scenario, fantastic. 1256 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 5: But when you're losing, I don't know what it looks like. 1257 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,880 Speaker 5: All I have to judge off of is what I 1258 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 5: see on the field, and right now, what I see 1259 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 5: on the field is an offense that doesn't know who 1260 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 5: they are. I see a defense that gives up way 1261 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,319 Speaker 5: too many points, and a special teams that's pretty good. 1262 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 5: Like that's that's what I have to go off of 1263 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 5: because I don't get the access when you lose. 1264 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,280 Speaker 1: This is the most important week of Liam Cohen's first 1265 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 1: year as a head coach because how they respond to 1266 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 1: this collapse and go into this Chargers game, and honestly, Pete, 1267 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 1: you know, you know how talented the Chargers are. I 1268 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 1: mean in Austin. I mean it's a good team. They're 1269 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 1: they're competing for the AFCs. 1270 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 3: If you can't rush the panzer against that offensive line, 1271 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:01,399 Speaker 3: then you gotta at home. 1272 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,400 Speaker 6: Then you got major problems. So they're banged up across 1273 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 6: the board. 1274 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: There's every incentive to go out and perform well this 1275 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: week and bounce back and have the right approach this 1276 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 1: week because this is two playoff caliber, you know, two 1277 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 1: playoff teams right now in the standing. So we'll see 1278 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 1: can Liam Cohen get him off the deck and get 1279 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: him back playing again. 1280 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 5: And this is gonna, I think, speak a lot on 1281 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 5: coaching and getting his guys ready, because I'm gonna be honest, 1282 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 5: The whole narrative the entire week from every player in 1283 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 5: that locker room was Yeah, it's Houston, but you know, 1284 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 5: like we're not getting We're not gonna get bogged down 1285 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 5: with like it's a rivalry. We're not gonna get bogged 1286 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 5: down with like the emotion of the game. They every 1287 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 5: player sounded like they're just treating like another game. What 1288 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 5: they took your quarterback out last year. This this they 1289 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 5: beat the. 1290 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 1: Hell out of this franchise for fifteen years. 1291 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 5: Exactly Like, I don't know what more incentive you need 1292 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 5: to go And I get maybe you're just trying to 1293 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 5: sound good for the microphone. Maybe it's different behind the scenes. 1294 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 5: Once again, I didn't see it behind the scenes, so 1295 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 5: maybe it is. But just going on off of what 1296 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 5: I based off of in terms of every player interview 1297 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 5: is like, yeah, that's just another game. 1298 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 1: Well no it's not. 1299 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 5: It's against the Houston Texans who took out your quarterback 1300 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 5: last year, who didn't really apologize for it, who just 1301 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 5: kept on doing their thing. You play player then the. 1302 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 6: Most important week for him and everything. Yeah, I would 1303 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 6: tend to agree with you, guys. And maybe that's what 1304 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 6: this first solve A was send it out there. This 1305 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 6: is his first first message to the team. I'm going 1306 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 6: to put it out there in public. You are on notice. 1307 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 6: Now when I get in behind closed doors, i'll tell 1308 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 6: you the exact reason why I said it. 1309 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 3: Because you are on notice. 1310 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, and we're going to change the way we play 1311 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 6: on defense. We're going to get to the We're going 1312 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 6: to get to the quarterback they don't have their number 1313 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 6: one left tackles. As a result, they moved their number 1314 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 6: one right tackle to the left tackle. Now they don't 1315 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 6: have the number two left tackle, and they have all 1316 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 6: kinds of missions protective the quarterback. So you better get 1317 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 6: him on the ground. And if you don't, and. 1318 00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 3: We're going to start making changes where we put people 1319 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 3: in that line. 1320 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 5: I know. 1321 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 1: You see how it all goes down this week. We've 1322 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 1: got plenty ahead. Let's come back and keep it real. 1323 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 1: Was that a first Okay? Okay, up until right now. 1324 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 3: They faked it. We take it. We got through it, 1325 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 3: like Austin did with his girlfriend. 1326 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 5: He don't don't quit that. 1327 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 3: Now. 1328 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 5: That sounds way worse than it was. Man, that sounds 1329 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 5: way worse. 1330 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 1: Than it was. 1331 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:30,919 Speaker 3: Didn't mean that. That's like who he was. I didn't show. 1332 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 5: I got some of the chamber. Don't worry about it, man, 1333 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 5: we can go back and forth next break. It's all good. 1334 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 1: Man. 1335 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 3: You don't have, you don't have. You didn't show who 1336 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 3: you were. I feel bad. 1337 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 5: Did you want to see who it was? After that 1338 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 5: lost Pete me? 1339 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 6: You you showed your son when you cursed in front 1340 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 6: of him. 1341 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:55,439 Speaker 1: I did, mister Duffy's Wings pulled the game after the game. 1342 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 5: He has no choice to see every day. 1343 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 1: Sorry game learning more about Austin Lane by the moment, 1344 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 1: and this is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings. 1345 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1346 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,880 Speaker 9: I think, you know, we'll open up that window this 1347 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 9: week to get him going, you know, get him practicing 1348 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 9: a little bit here this week and see what that 1349 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 9: looks like Wednesday Thursday, specifically to see how he's feeling, 1350 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 9: see how he's looking. I know he's very eager to 1351 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 9: get out there and compete and play and make an 1352 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 9: impact on our offense like he was doing before he 1353 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 9: got banged up. So, you know, trying not to put 1354 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 9: a ton of huge expectations on him, you know, different pressures. 1355 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 9: It's more so just hey, let's get you out there 1356 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,200 Speaker 9: and get practicing again, get catching the ball from the 1357 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:46,200 Speaker 9: quarterback again. 1358 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 1: Seam Cohen, Jaguars head coach today discussing tight end Britain Strange. 1359 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 1: They're going to open the window this week and he 1360 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 1: could be back out there this Sunday against the LA Chargers. 1361 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 1: That would be a boon for this offense. Looking for 1362 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: some consistency and some pass catching ability and some run 1363 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 1: blocking all the above. If they could get him back. 1364 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with Brian Thomas Junior this week 1365 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,160 Speaker 1: as well. He missed last week's game. Welcome back in 1366 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 1: this Jaguars Happy Hour JP Shadwick Austin Lane here in 1367 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:20,920 Speaker 1: Jacksonville from the middle of Electric Center at the Undie Studios, 1368 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 1: Pete Prisco down in South Florida, and Austin has been just. 1369 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 5: Gotta be yourself, squirming all break It's got to be yourself, man. 1370 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 5: I don't have the luxury to wear Hurley shirts like 1371 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 5: you do. Man, I have to wear this Jaguars polo 1372 01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:35,960 Speaker 5: shirt and show up to my business. You're not in 1373 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 5: a Hurley shirt like you're in a Blink one A 1374 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 5: two cover band at a hospice Squint Squint one A two. 1375 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,919 Speaker 5: I guess we can call you. It's all good man. 1376 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 6: These these are comfortable, by the way, That's why, Yes, 1377 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 6: he's getting all mad. 1378 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:55,919 Speaker 3: I didn't mean you were finking it. Show who you are. 1379 01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 4: I know, I know, I appreciate your Pete. That's an 1380 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 4: all timer right. 1381 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 3: There, but it did come out. 1382 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 5: I may have typed in your address on my ways 1383 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 5: after just to see how far away you were if 1384 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 5: it was. 1385 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 3: Worth thinking that is she still in town too? 1386 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 1387 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,320 Speaker 3: Okay, she's not listening to the show though. 1388 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I would hope that's what you think. 1389 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 5: Maybe she is. 1390 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah yeah. 1391 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 5: Then then she may not be home when I get back. 1392 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 1: Which is getting the real Austin tonight. Uh, time for 1393 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 1: keeping it real, spiking up. Yeah, presented by nobody again. 1394 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 3: Seasons half way over and we still have presented by nobody. 1395 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:48,160 Speaker 1: Eight games left, yeah, or maybe nine or twelve? 1396 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,120 Speaker 3: Lockdown nobody else? 1397 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 5: Man, not quite. 1398 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 1: Let's get to the quarterback we mentioned Britain Stranger. That 1399 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 1: would be a helpful thing for the soft certainly for 1400 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,600 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence if he can get back the numbers in 1401 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 1: the game for Trevor thirteen to twenty three, passing one 1402 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty eight yards, touchdown, interception, seventy four point 1403 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 1: two rating, the last drive of the game, sacked for nine, 1404 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:20,080 Speaker 1: scrambled for twenty one, passed to Washington for twelve at 1405 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,480 Speaker 1: the Houston forty three. It would have set up about 1406 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 1: a sixty one yarder, but the Adoga penalty for a 1407 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 1: legal use of hands negated it. With seven seconds left, 1408 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 1: final place sacked fumble. Hey, he executed the throw and 1409 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 1: put him in a position for a long field goal. 1410 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 1: Never a gimme on those. But and there's also earlier 1411 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 1: in the game where they didn't execute on offense and 1412 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 1: he didn't unleash some throws down the field that he 1413 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,000 Speaker 1: in hindsight, probably should have. So let's keep it real 1414 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 1: about the quarterback right now. How are you feeling about 1415 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 1: him and this offense moving forward? Let's start with this 1416 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 1: season before we go long term. 1417 01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 4: How about that go Ahid Pete. 1418 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 3: Look, I've defended him a lot, and I got guys 1419 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 3: that I work with that just destroy him on a 1420 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,000 Speaker 3: regular basis, And and they. 1421 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:14,000 Speaker 6: Don't think he's worth the money, worth being a guy 1422 01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,800 Speaker 6: that can put the game on his shoulders. And I've 1423 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 6: defended him against that. Well, it's hard to defend him anymore. 1424 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 6: You know, we had the Urban Meyer year. You could 1425 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 6: defend him for that. You had the injuries, you could 1426 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:27,280 Speaker 6: defend him for that. 1427 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 3: He had the Doug Peterson horizontal offense, you could defend 1428 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 3: him for that. But he's got an offensive mind in 1429 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:40,200 Speaker 3: Liam Kohne who knows what to do with quarterbacks. And 1430 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 3: from what I've been told he Trevor handles every bit 1431 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 3: of it. He's great with the offense. He knows the offense. 1432 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 6: He doesn't you know, there's a perception out there that 1433 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,640 Speaker 6: he doesn't work as hard as all other quarterbacks. 1434 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:58,360 Speaker 3: That's not true. But something happens from point A to 1435 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 3: point B that something short circuits the play call. 1436 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,840 Speaker 6: Come then the play call always lasts way too long. 1437 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,960 Speaker 6: He's too slow at the lone of scrimmage. There's always guys. 1438 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,080 Speaker 6: He's lining them up and trying to change a play 1439 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 6: and all that. But more than that, little things, and 1440 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 6: we'll use the travel play. Trammel is on a cross 1441 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,240 Speaker 6: against Stinglo, who's one of the best corners in the league, 1442 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 6: and he actually has a beat. You've got to put 1443 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,960 Speaker 6: that ball either on the far away where he has 1444 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 6: to go get it to the sideline, or to his 1445 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 6: right where he could just catch it and keep running. 1446 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 3: He did neither. He put it behind him to the 1447 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,520 Speaker 3: left and allowed Stingling to make a play on him. 1448 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 3: Those are the little things. 1449 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 6: And then you see him throw a shot to myers 1450 01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 6: for a first down that most quarterbacks, a lot of 1451 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 6: quarterbacks can't even throw that ball. 1452 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 3: And so that's the maddening part of Trevor Lawrence. He 1453 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 3: can he teases the. 1454 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,760 Speaker 6: Hell out of you, and then he makes some of 1455 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,320 Speaker 6: the worst decisions. And I think his pocket presence has 1456 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 6: gotten worse, and now it's in fairst to him. 1457 01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,440 Speaker 3: He got hit, he got beat up a little bit. 1458 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,400 Speaker 3: They aren't protecting him very well. But at times he 1459 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 3: just doesn't have that feel in the pocket. So from 1460 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,440 Speaker 3: the time the plague gets in, he knows the play, 1461 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,840 Speaker 3: he knows what to do, and he doesn't do it. 1462 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 3: Just like on that zone read. The zone read is 1463 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:28,240 Speaker 3: it's clear as day hand the ball off if they 1464 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 3: doesn't crash, pull it. If he crashed, and if you 1465 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 3: watch it on a tape, he could run for he 1466 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 3: might have run for a touchdown. Don't do it. 1467 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:41,360 Speaker 5: So you know, Trevor Lawrence is the biggest hot button 1468 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 5: topic amongst all Jaguars fans. As my mentions on Twitter, 1469 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,480 Speaker 5: I have seen it for the past couple months or so. 1470 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 5: But here's the people that can't really grasp or comprehend it. 1471 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,120 Speaker 5: It's that you can't be on the fence with this. 1472 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 5: Either he's a franchise quarterback or either he's like the 1473 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 5: worst thing never happened to organization like no one's in 1474 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 5: the middle. Two things can be true here. Did Trevor 1475 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 5: Lawrence play a bad game yesterday? Absolutely? Does offensive line 1476 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,800 Speaker 5: help them out? No, they didn't. Was there some drop balls? Yes? 1477 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,720 Speaker 5: And that's been the story this year. I feel like 1478 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 5: of Trevor's career, it's been Okay, well you have drop balls, 1479 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,800 Speaker 5: will you have injuries? Well, your offensive line, well, you're 1480 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,600 Speaker 5: defense not helping you out. Those things can all be true. 1481 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,000 Speaker 5: But at the base of it is Trevor Lawrence playing 1482 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 5: good right now? And the answer is no, he's not. 1483 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 5: So both things can be true. And listen a couple 1484 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,280 Speaker 5: segments ago, I'm sitting here saying, run the football, Run 1485 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,840 Speaker 5: the football, run the football. How many teams with franchise 1486 01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 5: quarterbacks making top five money do we have to go? 1487 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 5: All right, run the football. Let's take the ball out 1488 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 5: of our quarterback's hands. That's the conversation right now with 1489 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence. That doesn't sound too good. That to me, 1490 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 5: doesn't really sound like a franchise quarterback. That sounds more 1491 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 5: like a game manager, where it's like, okay, you know, 1492 01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 5: let's go up a little bit and then when it 1493 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 5: comes time to win the game. We'll take the balldy hands. 1494 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 5: I don't want Trevor to be a game manager. I 1495 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,760 Speaker 5: want him to be a gunslinger because we've seen the good, 1496 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,800 Speaker 5: we've seen the great throws, even this year. The problem 1497 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 5: is that we don't seem enough. And it's a roller 1498 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,400 Speaker 5: coaster of up and down. So when we see that, 1499 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,639 Speaker 5: then we have to revert to Okay, well we can't 1500 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,759 Speaker 5: see any more of the bad hand the ball off 1501 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,960 Speaker 5: and that's where we're at right now. But once again, 1502 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,559 Speaker 5: both things can be true. Trevor can be playing bad 1503 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 5: and the team can't help him around them. 1504 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 6: And I mean, you got to take the contract out 1505 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 6: of the equation if you're gonna have VO I mean 1506 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,880 Speaker 6: why they rushed to do it as a whole other issue. 1507 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 3: They didn't have to. They did. They can't get out 1508 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,719 Speaker 3: from underneath it. They're stuck with them for a year 1509 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 3: at least, and so take that out of the equation. 1510 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,080 Speaker 3: You know what I would do with them this week? JP? 1511 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:47,600 Speaker 5: What's that? 1512 01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,920 Speaker 3: I go get the old Chargers tape out. 1513 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:55,519 Speaker 6: The last time the Chargers were in Jacksonville, Okay, and 1514 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:56,840 Speaker 6: when was that? 1515 01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,679 Speaker 4: It was the wild Card playoff game. 1516 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,679 Speaker 1: Four picks and I get that second and half out 1517 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,200 Speaker 1: there we go second half, and. 1518 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:06,600 Speaker 3: I'd say, here you go, this is who you can be, 1519 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 3: This is who you were that night. It was a 1520 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 3: magical night for you. It wasn't. 1521 01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,439 Speaker 6: It wasn't The defense was bad that night. It was 1522 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:21,120 Speaker 6: a magical night for him. Has it been magical in 1523 01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,439 Speaker 6: any point since then? It hadn't been. 1524 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,960 Speaker 3: No, Well, that's the time you got to start proving 1525 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:31,800 Speaker 3: that you're that guy, the guy you know there the contract. Look, 1526 01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:33,479 Speaker 3: because we got other quarterbacks in this league. 1527 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 6: Kyler Murray getting basically benched makes that kind of money 1528 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 6: to you have all these you have these toua So 1529 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:43,439 Speaker 6: you have these questionable quarterback contracts where you're almost damned 1530 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:44,719 Speaker 6: if you do and damned if you don't. 1531 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 3: Well, right now they're damned they did because they're they're 1532 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:51,920 Speaker 3: found by it. 1533 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,639 Speaker 6: And so it's up to him to prove that they're 1534 01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,880 Speaker 6: not damned that they did. Go out and play. Go 1535 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,280 Speaker 6: out and play. I think he plays tight, I think, 1536 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,960 Speaker 6: and he wasn't always like that. Something happened to change that. 1537 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,759 Speaker 3: He needs to go out and play free and loose 1538 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 3: and turn it loose and take the second level throw 1539 01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,200 Speaker 3: and take the shot in the middle of the field 1540 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,080 Speaker 3: and be you know, those are the ones if he 1541 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:20,760 Speaker 3: if he's taking a shot in the middle of the 1542 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,599 Speaker 3: field and a guy jumps the ball, makes a great 1543 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 3: play to get an interception, you're okay, Okay, the guy 1544 01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:28,519 Speaker 3: made a great play, But he took the shot in 1545 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:29,200 Speaker 3: the middle of field. 1546 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,200 Speaker 6: Whereas if you look at him in the end zone 1547 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,280 Speaker 6: and he throws these dumb like okay, in the screen 1548 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:35,559 Speaker 6: pass yesterday, what. 1549 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:36,679 Speaker 3: The hell was that? 1550 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:42,800 Speaker 5: But Pete so right, remember that it was a volleyball serve. No, 1551 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 5: I know what you're saying, But Pete, let me ask 1552 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,280 Speaker 5: you this. Then you say, like he's playing he's playing timody, 1553 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,800 Speaker 5: he's playing tense. I thought this suit would be the 1554 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 5: defining year of Trevor Lawrence because he's getting the coach 1555 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:55,600 Speaker 5: and Liam Coln that was gonna let him kind of 1556 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,360 Speaker 5: turn it loose. At least that's what I thought. That's 1557 01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 5: when I saw a Baker mayfield where it seemed like 1558 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,639 Speaker 5: Trevor was a system quarterback under Doug Peterson. It seem 1559 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,000 Speaker 5: like Doug Peterson kind of had to take him by 1560 01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:05,479 Speaker 5: the hand a little bit and tell him, cause you 1561 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,840 Speaker 5: gotta throw over here, then throw over there. I feel 1562 01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,800 Speaker 5: like Liam Cohen's kind of letting him be like, hey, 1563 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:11,920 Speaker 5: you have a couple of reads here, do what you 1564 01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,840 Speaker 5: feel his best, and he's not doing that, so they. 1565 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,639 Speaker 3: Agree with you. So that he was he must blaming 1566 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 3: the offense, not blaming him. 1567 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,600 Speaker 5: No, no, And so my people, what I'm saying is 1568 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,200 Speaker 5: if he can't turn it loose with this offense, with 1569 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,640 Speaker 5: this head coach and everything, despite who you're throwing to 1570 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,280 Speaker 5: and despite the drops and everything, but if you're looking 1571 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,639 Speaker 5: Timid in the pocket, is it not even a skin? 1572 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,760 Speaker 5: Is this mor Son? This is who Trevor is well? 1573 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:36,599 Speaker 6: And that's that's what he has to prove to people 1574 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,400 Speaker 6: over there and prove this team over the next eight 1575 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,400 Speaker 6: games if he doesn't turn it loose. And by that 1576 01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:46,400 Speaker 6: I mean the checkdown. We've talked about this all the time. 1577 01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:47,280 Speaker 6: We talk about it. 1578 01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,880 Speaker 3: He takes the checkdown where he can throw to the 1579 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,760 Speaker 3: next level if he takes the chance. And so there 1580 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,639 Speaker 3: was a play the other day, the other yesterday where 1581 01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:01,080 Speaker 3: Tim Patrick was on an inbreaker and he didn't throw it. Now, 1582 01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:02,479 Speaker 3: it would have been a yet to make that throw. 1583 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 3: It's a good throw, you gotta make it the but 1584 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,920 Speaker 3: he didn't throw it. Those are the throws you gotta throw. 1585 01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,759 Speaker 6: He needs to put the tape on from the Chargers 1586 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,360 Speaker 6: game and look at that and say, look at what 1587 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:12,800 Speaker 6: he did. 1588 01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:17,000 Speaker 1: Now, I'm looking at the game book from that Chargers 1589 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 1: game twenty twenty three wild card playoff after the twenty 1590 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,280 Speaker 1: two season. Four touchdown passes in that game for Trevor Lawrence, 1591 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,759 Speaker 1: after the four picks by the way, Evan Ingram mister reliable, Yeah, 1592 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk mister reliable, Zay Jones, who had a level 1593 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:37,439 Speaker 1: of reliability on the field, and Marvin Jones, who was 1594 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,400 Speaker 1: the ultimate like catch and go down guy, like he 1595 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,720 Speaker 1: was confident that those guys were where they were going 1596 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 1: to be. 1597 01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, in the that's not exactly like a who's who 1598 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:47,920 Speaker 6: of wide receivers. 1599 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:48,760 Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be. 1600 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,840 Speaker 1: That's the point, Pete. They don't have to be five 1601 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,400 Speaker 1: star blue chip players all around them. They need to 1602 01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 1: run the right routes and catch the football. And those 1603 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,240 Speaker 1: guys ran the right routes and caught the football in 1604 01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:58,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. 1605 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,120 Speaker 6: Right, And does he right now what he has to 1606 01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,200 Speaker 6: throw to Is it really that good? 1607 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,720 Speaker 3: No, But you could find a way to make it 1608 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:07,559 Speaker 3: work and you can. 1609 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,400 Speaker 6: Take because, like I said, Patrick, he's not a great 1610 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,639 Speaker 6: receiver now, I mean he never was a great receiver, 1611 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:13,519 Speaker 6: but now he's older. 1612 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:15,680 Speaker 3: But he was open. You got to throw that. 1613 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,640 Speaker 1: You have to throw it and make sure. 1614 01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,920 Speaker 6: If I if I were coaching him this week, I 1615 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,439 Speaker 6: put that tape on, I'd watch it. 1616 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 3: I say, you need to turn it loose. 1617 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,439 Speaker 6: It's almost like they've preached into his mind that he 1618 01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:31,559 Speaker 6: can't turn the ball over. 1619 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,080 Speaker 3: Where he ends up turning it over anyways, So turn 1620 01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:39,120 Speaker 3: it loose. Throw the damn ball, get it out of 1621 01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,320 Speaker 3: your hands. Take the second level shot. 1622 01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, don't don't be a game manager, like, don't man 1623 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 5: like you're We've seen throws him this year, the Brian 1624 01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,080 Speaker 5: Thomas junior throw against the Chiefs, Like we've seen him 1625 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,400 Speaker 5: make throws that. Only four or five quarterbacks in this 1626 01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:55,360 Speaker 5: league can make. 1627 01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,840 Speaker 1: More of that. Please, yes, please, there you have it, 1628 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:04,720 Speaker 1: keeping the loose, keeping it real. We should just call 1629 01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,040 Speaker 1: it the turn it loose sem. 1630 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,519 Speaker 3: Next week. If you don't turn it loose, will obviouly 1631 01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,720 Speaker 3: sit near saying wonder if people will be wondering when 1632 01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:13,800 Speaker 3: it's time to turn in loose? 1633 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,680 Speaker 5: Oh wow, not me. 1634 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:18,960 Speaker 3: I'm just saying people. 1635 01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:19,559 Speaker 4: People out there. 1636 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,040 Speaker 1: People say, people say a lot of things. 1637 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,000 Speaker 3: You can't get rid of them. 1638 01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 6: Okay, you cannot get rid of them. 1639 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,240 Speaker 1: That was keeping it real. PR Productions, the Southeast full 1640 01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,599 Speaker 1: service event company, has everything you need to bring your 1641 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,800 Speaker 1: next idea to life. Visit PR Productions dot com and 1642 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:41,680 Speaker 1: learn more. We're back with fan questions. Oh boy, this 1643 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,320 Speaker 1: was a trip today after Jaguars lost in Houston as 1644 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:56,880 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings, Welcome back. 1645 01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,040 Speaker 1: It is Jaguars Happy Hour JP Shadrick, Austin Lane and 1646 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:04,720 Speaker 1: Pete Priscotay. After Jaguars loss in Houston, it's time to 1647 01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,759 Speaker 1: turn the Microsoft co pilot helping us with this week's 1648 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:11,280 Speaker 1: matchup and asking co pilot what is the all time 1649 01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:16,760 Speaker 1: series record between the Jaguars and the Chargers. Click the 1650 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,880 Speaker 1: button and here comes the answer. The La Chargers lead 1651 01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,360 Speaker 1: the all time series against the Jaguars nine to five, 1652 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:26,040 Speaker 1: including one postseason matchup. And of course we've just talked 1653 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,000 Speaker 1: about that one postseason matchup, the AFC Wildcard Playoff game 1654 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 1: after the twenty twenty two season. It was the last 1655 01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,360 Speaker 1: meeting between the teams. The third largest comeback in playoff history. 1656 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,880 Speaker 1: Jags were down twenty seven nothing, and let's not get 1657 01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,680 Speaker 1: in that position this week. The Chargers Jaguars game this 1658 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,759 Speaker 1: weekend is delivered by CSX and welcome back. It's Jaguars 1659 01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,519 Speaker 1: Happy Hour, the Second Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings. 1660 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,400 Speaker 1: And it's time now for fan questions. And you can 1661 01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,240 Speaker 1: only imagine, well, I mean, I guess you don't have 1662 01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,040 Speaker 1: to only imagine. You can look at your own Twitter page. Pete, 1663 01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,519 Speaker 1: you're off. Your mic is off, Pete, your mic is off. 1664 01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure what you had to say was hilarious. Now 1665 01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:04,639 Speaker 1: you're back your back, Pete. 1666 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 3: Why why I've seen him today? By the way, it's 1667 01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:09,160 Speaker 3: been nasty. 1668 01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:09,960 Speaker 4: I'm huge. 1669 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,080 Speaker 1: What you would expect when you blow a nineteen point 1670 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:16,360 Speaker 1: lead in the fourth quarter. Yeah, here's here's the best 1671 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:20,360 Speaker 1: we've come up with today at lever Torrance. Where's the spark, gentlemen? 1672 01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,920 Speaker 1: Great teams will themselves to a win. Which player is 1673 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,680 Speaker 1: going to step up and create the juice? 1674 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:29,559 Speaker 4: Maybe the quarterback? 1675 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,200 Speaker 3: Well yeah, well the quarterback first and foremost, but it 1676 01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,639 Speaker 3: also you know where juice comes from when you get 1677 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:39,360 Speaker 3: a sack too, Yeah yeah, yeah, And they don't get sacks. 1678 01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,639 Speaker 3: So that's part of the reason they'll how much juice. 1679 01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,519 Speaker 3: If you're a defense that gets sacks, you get a 1680 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:44,240 Speaker 3: ton of juice. 1681 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,400 Speaker 5: You know, when when Liam Cohen first got the Jacksville 1682 01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,559 Speaker 5: asked him how his like, how is he able to 1683 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,120 Speaker 5: rally his offense when they lose Godwin and Evans for 1684 01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:53,840 Speaker 5: an extended period of time. You lose two of your 1685 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,439 Speaker 5: captains on offense down Tampa. Yeah, down in Tampa, and 1686 01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,800 Speaker 5: they still were able to have some success. Baker maythicile 1687 01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,439 Speaker 5: play at a pretty high level still, and he simply said, 1688 01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,240 Speaker 5: because we had the leaders in the locker room. To 1689 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,720 Speaker 5: willis to those victories, you know, because a lot of 1690 01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,160 Speaker 5: those guys had played with Tom Brady and that Super 1691 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,519 Speaker 5: Bowl run. So when you look at okay, if it's 1692 01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,360 Speaker 5: not going good, who are the guys that can really 1693 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,080 Speaker 5: take the team by their you know, then that can 1694 01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:20,000 Speaker 5: just say follow me, let's go. I can't make. 1695 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,600 Speaker 6: A dude in Baker who will grab you by the 1696 01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:24,040 Speaker 6: neck and take you. 1697 01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, you have worfs. You have guys in that Tampa 1698 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,559 Speaker 5: Bay defense, like you have a bunch of guys. I 1699 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,880 Speaker 5: don't know who the guys, right now on the Jacksonville Jaguars, 1700 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,880 Speaker 5: Like no, I want to say josh ainz Allen, I 1701 01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,840 Speaker 5: want to say Trevor Lawrence. But like I think, to 1702 01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,120 Speaker 5: be a true leader in a locker room, you have 1703 01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,320 Speaker 5: to number one, you can be vocal, you can lead 1704 01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,320 Speaker 5: by example, but you have to have to play to 1705 01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,920 Speaker 5: back it up. And right now, I don't really see 1706 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,600 Speaker 5: a lot of guys on this team like having the 1707 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,640 Speaker 5: play to back it up and say, hey, follow me, 1708 01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:53,120 Speaker 5: let's go. 1709 01:17:53,960 --> 01:18:04,840 Speaker 10: No, they aren't there, sweet man, man, that's what it is. 1710 01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:06,599 Speaker 5: We're still keeping it real. Yeah. 1711 01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,639 Speaker 1: Certainly at Peter and Tracy ninety two, Why does Cohen 1712 01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,240 Speaker 1: not call players to combat elite pass rush? Get the 1713 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,840 Speaker 1: ball out? How much is this play called? 1714 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,439 Speaker 6: I think he combats the pass rush probably more than 1715 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,600 Speaker 6: he would like to be honest with you. You know, 1716 01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,679 Speaker 6: you tell how many times do they throw those quick 1717 01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,400 Speaker 6: little tunnel screens and stuff like that, particularly when Travis 1718 01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:27,200 Speaker 6: Hunter was around. 1719 01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:28,720 Speaker 4: You love screens, Pete, I know you do. 1720 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,080 Speaker 3: I mean I like screen I love the screen game, 1721 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,800 Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but the screen game has to 1722 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,160 Speaker 3: be complimented about the down by the down the field 1723 01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:38,559 Speaker 3: game and the down the field game is non existent. 1724 01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:44,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. I think Brenton's Strange coming back, hopefully 1725 01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,240 Speaker 5: against the Chargers, would open some things up a little 1726 01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,200 Speaker 5: more in terms of in terms of the passing in 1727 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:49,640 Speaker 5: but also if you've got to keep him in as 1728 01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,840 Speaker 5: an inline blocker. I mean, you know, the guys one 1729 01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,400 Speaker 5: of the best blockers they have, so hopefully that helps 1730 01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,080 Speaker 5: it out if you have to block a guy that. 1731 01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:57,839 Speaker 4: Khalil Mack or somebody from the Chargers. 1732 01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,400 Speaker 5: So I think getting Strange back and give you a 1733 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,400 Speaker 5: little boost not only in the past game in terms 1734 01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,840 Speaker 5: of blocking, but also in the receiving game as well. 1735 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,320 Speaker 3: Here's one I couldn't figure out. 1736 01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,839 Speaker 6: I didn't know if anybody asked this question, but Milam 1737 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:13,960 Speaker 6: played on special teams yesterday. He played six snaps when 1738 01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,200 Speaker 6: when the right guard went out, Why didn't they put 1739 01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:17,880 Speaker 6: him in a right guard? They put Monheim in it 1740 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:18,639 Speaker 6: right guard. 1741 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:20,280 Speaker 4: It's a great question. 1742 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,280 Speaker 1: Curious are they I wonder if they're still maybe waiting 1743 01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,120 Speaker 1: for like full go, he's full. 1744 01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,160 Speaker 6: Go, he's up, he's on the field team. 1745 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:31,280 Speaker 3: Something's wrong there. 1746 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:32,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what's up with that. 1747 01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:33,040 Speaker 5: That's a weird. 1748 01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,559 Speaker 6: Unless they're waiting working him at left tackle. To take 1749 01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:39,080 Speaker 6: over that spot. Oh boy, really he didn't get he 1750 01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,479 Speaker 6: didn't get work at left tackle in the preseason if I. 1751 01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 3: Remember correct, remember that and and so I don't know, 1752 01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:51,120 Speaker 3: you can't I mean experience, right, Yeah, he could play 1753 01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,240 Speaker 3: left tackle, and you could play Milam at left guard 1754 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 3: if Cleveland's not there. 1755 01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it. 1756 01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,240 Speaker 5: I was gonna to say too. In terms of the 1757 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,120 Speaker 5: play call and everything, I think we're all set with 1758 01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,520 Speaker 5: like the wildcat formation against solid defensive. 1759 01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,280 Speaker 3: I know you can get that. You can throw that 1760 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:08,719 Speaker 3: in the garden. 1761 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:10,280 Speaker 5: It worked good against the Raiders. I get it for 1762 01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,120 Speaker 5: a couple of looks. But when you play an elite 1763 01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,200 Speaker 5: defensive line and then your big tell is, oh, hey 1764 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,720 Speaker 5: we have a running back under center and shotgun, it's 1765 01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,760 Speaker 5: probably going to be a run. I don't want to 1766 01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,400 Speaker 5: tip the defense anymore than I already am. 1767 01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1768 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,160 Speaker 3: Then they can put that in the in the in 1769 01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,760 Speaker 3: the receptacle over there, just try I think I think 1770 01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:27,919 Speaker 3: that play from last. 1771 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:29,640 Speaker 5: Week, yeah, I mean I think that the beauty of 1772 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,479 Speaker 5: having Trevor Lawrence in those situations is can he pass it? 1773 01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,320 Speaker 5: Can he take off and run for a touchdown? Or 1774 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:35,920 Speaker 5: can he hand the ball off? I think it keeps 1775 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,559 Speaker 5: defenses on their heels a little more. Good defenses on 1776 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:39,320 Speaker 5: their heels a little more. 1777 01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:43,360 Speaker 6: That that little inside handoff that atn made to the 1778 01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,200 Speaker 6: who was it Washington? 1779 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:46,519 Speaker 3: It wasn't that worked? Really well? 1780 01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:47,120 Speaker 5: We're all set. 1781 01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, wait till the deers passing play. 1782 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:51,400 Speaker 5: He'll throw one here. 1783 01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:52,519 Speaker 3: Why you play quarterback? 1784 01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,000 Speaker 1: He has three career touchdown passes in the NFL. 1785 01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:57,599 Speaker 4: We'll see if they just. 1786 01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,519 Speaker 3: Don't make him throw it back to the quarterback because 1787 01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:00,800 Speaker 3: we don't want to se that play again. 1788 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,240 Speaker 1: No, uh at duval hoops? 1789 01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:03,800 Speaker 4: Was it just me? 1790 01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,040 Speaker 1: Or did strigaut hop a few times? Give it a 1791 01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,360 Speaker 1: rest with the washed vets to continue to show you 1792 01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,160 Speaker 1: they are washed, are no longer productive? 1793 01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:11,679 Speaker 5: Wow. 1794 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:17,160 Speaker 3: So so basically he's calling out. 1795 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,439 Speaker 4: Oddba Yeah, I guess so right. 1796 01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Iba has done nothing. Let's be real, he's 1797 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,679 Speaker 3: done nothing. Uh, strig out. 1798 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,280 Speaker 6: When you watch the tape the other day, there's a 1799 01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:32,080 Speaker 6: couple plays and Austin you know this how we play 1800 01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:32,800 Speaker 6: defensive end. 1801 01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:36,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, when a puller comes your way, you gotta take 1802 01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,080 Speaker 3: that puller on and blow him up in that hole. 1803 01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,639 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, too many guys, too many guys don't do it. 1804 01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,559 Speaker 5: Business decisions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1805 01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,920 Speaker 6: He took on one on Sunday and he blasted that guy. 1806 01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,920 Speaker 3: He made a play. Yeah, I think that tells me 1807 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,439 Speaker 3: there's want to there, there's toughness there. He actually got 1808 01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,000 Speaker 3: around the corner on one play and made made a 1809 01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,639 Speaker 3: little rush. Maybe you start playing him more. 1810 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,639 Speaker 4: Strigo I'm is pronounced it, strig goes his name. 1811 01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,679 Speaker 5: Literally took the words out of my mouth though, where 1812 01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,479 Speaker 5: he seems like a willing player right now, like he's 1813 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 5: willing to do all the dirty work. He's willing to 1814 01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,960 Speaker 5: get his hands dirty. And if if you're trying to 1815 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,040 Speaker 5: make some changes, if you're trying to get that spark, 1816 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,720 Speaker 5: you need those types of players like Parker Washington on 1817 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,960 Speaker 5: offense who seems to be playing hard and love the 1818 01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,439 Speaker 5: game of football. I get the same vibe from this 1819 01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:24,439 Speaker 5: guy on the defensive end, Sash defensive ad line. 1820 01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,559 Speaker 3: Any any play stand out from both the whole season? 1821 01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:28,479 Speaker 3: Any anything? 1822 01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,800 Speaker 1: Did you have a he hawked a half sack off 1823 01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:31,960 Speaker 1: Hi Tallen last week? 1824 01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:33,360 Speaker 5: Didn't he? Yeah? Yeah? 1825 01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,040 Speaker 6: But you have any plays where he like whips the 1826 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,080 Speaker 6: tackle and knocks the guy down and there's nothing Yeah. 1827 01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,960 Speaker 1: I'll give you Ogoba's numbers for the season if you'd 1828 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:47,360 Speaker 1: like them pete twelve tackles, half a sack, two tackles 1829 01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,400 Speaker 1: for loss, and three quarterback hits. 1830 01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:54,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. Like I said, what is the problem grade though? 1831 01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:56,680 Speaker 5: J Because I think they mean come on now, you know, 1832 01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:57,960 Speaker 5: let's let let's be fair here. 1833 01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:00,720 Speaker 6: You know the other one, the other one, the part 1834 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,040 Speaker 6: of the problem on the defensive line. 1835 01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:03,599 Speaker 3: The second round pick does nothing. 1836 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,479 Speaker 6: Mason Smith, I can admit when I'm wrong. Well, I 1837 01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,840 Speaker 6: was wrong about him when he came out. I thought 1838 01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:12,920 Speaker 6: he was going to be really good. 1839 01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,720 Speaker 5: He isn't well, and I think we're excited for this offseason. Right. 1840 01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,800 Speaker 5: He gets hurt a little bit, but all I heard 1841 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:20,800 Speaker 5: was how hard he's working, how great that he looks, 1842 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:22,880 Speaker 5: and then nothing. 1843 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:27,479 Speaker 3: He doesn't disengage. You know what I'm talking about. You 1844 01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:32,920 Speaker 3: know when gets a guy, he doesn't disengage. 1845 01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:34,840 Speaker 4: Yep. 1846 01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,160 Speaker 1: Three more questions that Sean thirty two fifty three. If 1847 01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:41,000 Speaker 1: you only watch one team, can you claim to love 1848 01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:45,120 Speaker 1: slash no ball or does a ball lover slash knower 1849 01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,880 Speaker 1: have to watch any team with excitement to understand what 1850 01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:48,920 Speaker 1: football really is? 1851 01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:51,880 Speaker 3: What the hell does that mean? 1852 01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,559 Speaker 1: Are you a ball knower? If you only watch one 1853 01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,200 Speaker 1: team or you have to be watch all the teams 1854 01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:58,120 Speaker 1: to be a ballner. 1855 01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:02,400 Speaker 3: Pete, consider you why would you watch all the teams? Anyways? 1856 01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:04,559 Speaker 3: You understand what the question is. 1857 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:04,760 Speaker 7: You do. 1858 01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,559 Speaker 6: There's like, there's a game on tonight the Eagles play 1859 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:08,200 Speaker 6: the Packers. 1860 01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,680 Speaker 3: Would if you're a balld lover? Do you watch that? 1861 01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:12,479 Speaker 3: Of course you do? 1862 01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:15,600 Speaker 4: But are you not one? If you just happen to 1863 01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:16,040 Speaker 4: miss it? 1864 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:19,880 Speaker 3: In my world, you're not a ball lover. 1865 01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:22,840 Speaker 1: You're a ball You're not a ball knower, right right, 1866 01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:24,680 Speaker 1: But you have to watch every game you're a ball No, 1867 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:25,120 Speaker 1: I do? 1868 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:25,920 Speaker 5: I do? 1869 01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:26,639 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1870 01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,200 Speaker 5: I mean I think where the questions going and saying 1871 01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,040 Speaker 5: like if you just watch Jaguars games, right, and then 1872 01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:31,960 Speaker 5: that's all you watch? 1873 01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,920 Speaker 4: Like do you know ball? And and and I think. 1874 01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:40,599 Speaker 5: This is the thing, right, I think, I think ball 1875 01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,120 Speaker 5: you have to watch multiple offenses, multiple defenses to try 1876 01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,479 Speaker 5: to get a baseline of what you're seeing and what's 1877 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,840 Speaker 5: good and what's bad, right like you? 1878 01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,439 Speaker 4: I think that's the obvious answer that makes. 1879 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,479 Speaker 3: Sense to And I'll be honest, there's a lot of 1880 01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,800 Speaker 3: bad ball being played around the NFL too, sure, a 1881 01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,400 Speaker 3: lot of pre snaff penalties not just in Jacksonville. A 1882 01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,080 Speaker 3: lot of a lot of mistakes. It's just it's not 1883 01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:01,839 Speaker 3: very crisp. 1884 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:06,960 Speaker 1: Who's the crispest, most crisp whatever, best cleanest team in football? 1885 01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:07,479 Speaker 4: Right now? 1886 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,559 Speaker 3: Who's the you're asking me who the best team. 1887 01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,639 Speaker 1: Is, or I'm asking you the cleanest team. 1888 01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:17,840 Speaker 6: The Rams are the cleanest team. Okay, the best team? Yeah, 1889 01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:21,600 Speaker 6: we'll find out. Sunday they play each other, Seattle and 1890 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,240 Speaker 6: the Rams. Seattle's really good, really good. 1891 01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:27,880 Speaker 3: They get after that. You talk about a team that 1892 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,160 Speaker 3: can rush with four, they get after the quarterback. 1893 01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,400 Speaker 1: Two more questions, Let's get through them fast. These Black Gatsby, 1894 01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,880 Speaker 1: if Sunday happened a week before with Gladstone, have made 1895 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:37,559 Speaker 1: more deals. 1896 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,639 Speaker 3: They tried to make deals. From what I heard around 1897 01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,439 Speaker 3: the league, they tried to make deals. They just couldn't 1898 01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:46,040 Speaker 3: make them. 1899 01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:47,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it takes two to tanks. 1900 01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:49,840 Speaker 5: I don't think that Raiders got anything to do with it, 1901 01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:53,160 Speaker 5: because once again, it wasn't the prettiest game either. Right, So, 1902 01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,280 Speaker 5: if the narrative is that you're always trying to, you know, 1903 01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,880 Speaker 5: build a roster, always trying to hold guys accountable, and 1904 01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,000 Speaker 5: we saw with Tyson Campbell, right, So like I I 1905 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,000 Speaker 5: don't think like just because they won against the Raiders, 1906 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,320 Speaker 5: they kind of pulled back the reins in terms of 1907 01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,760 Speaker 5: trading for people they tried to this didn't work out, 1908 01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:11,760 Speaker 5: didn't have the right capital, whatever the case may be. 1909 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:13,880 Speaker 4: But I don't think it's not anything to do with it. 1910 01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,839 Speaker 3: Or and here's the other part. If if they weren't 1911 01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,920 Speaker 3: the number seven seed, they were one in whatever or 1912 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:21,639 Speaker 3: two and whatever, would they have been sellers? 1913 01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,240 Speaker 4: Probably maybe? Yeah, I'd probably say right. 1914 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:25,800 Speaker 3: But who would you have sold who? 1915 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:26,640 Speaker 1: Like? 1916 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,320 Speaker 6: Okay, for example, Devinnoyds could be could have been as 1917 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,040 Speaker 6: you could if you were weren't good, you would have 1918 01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:32,320 Speaker 6: you would have got rid of him because you're not 1919 01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,240 Speaker 6: going to have him probably next year unless you decide 1920 01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:34,720 Speaker 6: to keep them. 1921 01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,599 Speaker 3: And for what you know he's going to be asking. 1922 01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:38,760 Speaker 3: I can't imagine they will. 1923 01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:43,680 Speaker 1: One more question at j Fix eighty eight made me 1924 01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:47,160 Speaker 1: feel better about the Jaguars. Give something positive to look 1925 01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:47,640 Speaker 1: forward to. 1926 01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,320 Speaker 4: This is actually my burner account because I. 1927 01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:52,519 Speaker 3: Need this more than you burner account. 1928 01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,599 Speaker 5: Okay, I need this more than anybody too. 1929 01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:05,120 Speaker 3: Well, go watch the Chargers table when they won the playoff. 1930 01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:06,120 Speaker 3: You'll be excited about it. 1931 01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:12,080 Speaker 5: Answer with uniforms, right though, do we have the Prowlers 1932 01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:16,120 Speaker 5: coming up again or not? Maybe not that division games 1933 01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:17,439 Speaker 5: Division already played. 1934 01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,479 Speaker 6: Even if they wore the Prowler uniforms and the Chargers 1935 01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:24,840 Speaker 6: wore the Baby Blues, it wouldn't the white Baby Blues. 1936 01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,519 Speaker 6: It would be second best uniform on the field, because 1937 01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,120 Speaker 6: those Baby Blues are sweet Pete. 1938 01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,240 Speaker 1: The Jags are five and four, they're the seventh seed. 1939 01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:33,120 Speaker 1: What give us something? 1940 01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:33,720 Speaker 4: Positive? 1941 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:38,040 Speaker 3: They're the seventh seed. There's positive and the schedule is favorable. 1942 01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:42,160 Speaker 3: You two hour Titans. You got two with the Titans, 1943 01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:46,679 Speaker 3: you got two with the Colts. You have the Jets, 1944 01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:47,559 Speaker 3: who are terrible. 1945 01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:49,840 Speaker 6: The Jets won a game yesterday with the quarter with 1946 01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,840 Speaker 6: receivers catching passes for a grand total of seven yards, 1947 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,639 Speaker 6: I think, And so you could win. 1948 01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,840 Speaker 3: The games are winnable. Can't you see this though? Could 1949 01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,840 Speaker 3: you see them beating the Chargers and the Cardinals and 1950 01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,880 Speaker 3: also losing to the Chargers and the Cardinals. I mean, 1951 01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:06,080 Speaker 3: that's who they are. 1952 01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:08,720 Speaker 4: Yes, it sounds like somebody wants to lock it in. 1953 01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:10,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm not locking it in. 1954 01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:12,960 Speaker 6: By the way, the Broncos game, we looked at that, 1955 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,280 Speaker 6: we circled that as a brutal, tough game. 1956 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:15,840 Speaker 3: That might not be. 1957 01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:19,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's December week before in Denver. 1958 01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:20,320 Speaker 4: I think it's tough. 1959 01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:25,839 Speaker 3: It's tough, but that offense does nothing true true. 1960 01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:28,160 Speaker 1: So you're looking at the eleven wins, Pete, so you're 1961 01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:29,120 Speaker 1: looking at no. 1962 01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:34,200 Speaker 6: I wouldn't say eleven right now. They could lose two 1963 01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,639 Speaker 6: games to the Titans for the I mean they could. 1964 01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,880 Speaker 6: What what about the team gives you optimism? 1965 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:41,240 Speaker 3: JP? 1966 01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,360 Speaker 1: If you were on a good run there you were 1967 01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:48,080 Speaker 1: cooking there for a sect in the kitchen in the 1968 01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:53,720 Speaker 1: seventh seed, there's eight games. Have to figure something. 1969 01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:57,160 Speaker 3: Good right now? What's good right now? What is good? Passing? Game? 1970 01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:58,240 Speaker 3: Not good bro game? 1971 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:01,880 Speaker 4: I go back to the punt returning. 1972 01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,200 Speaker 6: And you know what, if you have to look at 1973 01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,320 Speaker 6: special teams and say that's the something that's good, then 1974 01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:07,200 Speaker 6: you got problems. 1975 01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:13,360 Speaker 1: There's your fan questions for the night. Thanks for the submissions. 1976 01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:15,479 Speaker 1: There were a lot we left on the floor, just 1977 01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:17,160 Speaker 1: like Pete left that segment on the floor. 1978 01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. I killed that segment because I was keeping it real. 1979 01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,519 Speaker 1: That was one segment later, yeah, yeah, delaying your real 1980 01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,880 Speaker 1: keeping there. Donate blood and save lives on the big 1981 01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:31,240 Speaker 1: red bus of the annual Tealgate Blood Drive November twenty 1982 01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,519 Speaker 1: second at Daily's Place. Blood donor score a free Jags 1983 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,760 Speaker 1: home game ticket and for more info go to d 1984 01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,160 Speaker 1: one blood dot com. Slash Jaguars, We'll take a look 1985 01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,720 Speaker 1: around the NFL when we come back as Jaguars Happy Hour, 1986 01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:54,320 Speaker 1: presented by Mister Chubby's Wings. 1987 01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:57,800 Speaker 5: Washington field it at the twenty nine yard line, gets 1988 01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:58,880 Speaker 5: up the field thirty. 1989 01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,679 Speaker 1: Five forty yard line ru for Parker Washington. Forty five 1990 01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:05,800 Speaker 1: forty thirty hold on the right sideline, Parker Washington. He's 1991 01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:06,679 Speaker 1: gonna bring it back. 1992 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:12,799 Speaker 3: Parker Washington touchdown, Jacksonville. They're are no flat the jackson 1993 01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:14,520 Speaker 3: extended the league. 1994 01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,240 Speaker 1: That's Frank Fransie with a call of the game presented 1995 01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:20,559 Speaker 1: by Coyle Fence. Since nineteen twenty seven, they've been around 1996 01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:24,160 Speaker 1: the block and fenced at two seventy three yard hunt 1997 01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:27,719 Speaker 1: return touchdown for Parker Washington, the third in his career. 1998 01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:31,880 Speaker 1: Second of the season. Opened a seventeen to nothing lead, 1999 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,840 Speaker 1: but the Jags blew it. They had a nineteen point 2000 01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:37,439 Speaker 1: lead in the fourth quarter and lost the football game, 2001 01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:41,280 Speaker 1: largest blown lead in franchise history. And welcome back, Saguars 2002 01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,599 Speaker 1: Happy Hour. JP Shadwick, Pete Prisco and Austin Lane. We've 2003 01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:49,000 Speaker 1: dissected it all tonight except week ten in the National 2004 01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:53,320 Speaker 1: Football League, and let's go round the NFL and four 2005 01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:58,040 Speaker 1: teams on a bi Bengals, Chiefs, Cowboys, Titans Thursday, Broncos 2006 01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:00,320 Speaker 1: over the Raiders. We mentioned that game ten to having 2007 01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,599 Speaker 1: the Colts in Germany over the Falcons. Won a game 2008 01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:07,559 Speaker 1: for Jonathan Taylor, and the Colts are on a roll 2009 01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,080 Speaker 1: right now, and they don't want the bye week at all. 2010 01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:11,040 Speaker 5: I don't think, Pete. 2011 01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:14,280 Speaker 6: Well, they lost the week before to Pittsburgh, and the 2012 01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,759 Speaker 6: reason they lost to Pittsburgh the week before was because 2013 01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,200 Speaker 6: they only gave the ball to Jonathan Taylor four times 2014 01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:20,479 Speaker 6: on the first three drives. 2015 01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:22,519 Speaker 3: Give him the damn ball. They gave the ball and 2016 01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:23,360 Speaker 3: he had a great. 2017 01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:24,599 Speaker 5: Day, great day. 2018 01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:26,920 Speaker 1: And then we'll see how sustainable it is after their 2019 01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:27,280 Speaker 1: bye week. 2020 01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,400 Speaker 3: Kevin Hill, by the way, he's still the second best tailor. Whoever, 2021 01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:32,160 Speaker 3: we're number twenty eighth the way. 2022 01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:38,080 Speaker 1: See I see what you did there, Pete. Yeah. The 2023 01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:42,840 Speaker 1: Saints over the Panthers seventeen to seven, the Bears over 2024 01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:46,280 Speaker 1: the Giants, Little snow Globe action, Austin and Chicago. 2025 01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,240 Speaker 5: Little snow globe accident and Brian Dabele. Actually I think 2026 01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,639 Speaker 5: I released to Eric got whacked. 2027 01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:51,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you guys. 2028 01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:53,439 Speaker 5: At surprised about that. I felt like they had their 2029 01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:55,640 Speaker 5: quarterback now in Jackson Dart. Why not set him up 2030 01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,080 Speaker 5: for success? Keeping that dable offense for another year and two? 2031 01:31:58,080 --> 01:31:59,960 Speaker 1: You can do well. 2032 01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:02,080 Speaker 3: I would agree with you on that. But they blew 2033 01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:05,559 Speaker 3: four leads in the fourth quarter, and he's exposed him 2034 01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:09,759 Speaker 3: to some really strange situations like taking shots and running 2035 01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:12,200 Speaker 3: them when they're in blowouts, and so I think that 2036 01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:13,719 Speaker 3: had a lot to do with it, to be honest 2037 01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:14,080 Speaker 3: with you. 2038 01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,960 Speaker 1: Dolphins beat the Bills thirty to thirteen. What the hell 2039 01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:17,680 Speaker 1: happened down there? 2040 01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:18,200 Speaker 5: Pete? 2041 01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,880 Speaker 3: You know, I asked, guys, and you played in the 2042 01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,200 Speaker 3: league to Austin, how does that happen? You beat the 2043 01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,439 Speaker 3: Chiefs and then you go on the road play Miami 2044 01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:28,680 Speaker 3: and you're just lifeless? 2045 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,280 Speaker 5: How does that happen any given Sunday, Pete, any given Sunday? 2046 01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:33,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what it is. 2047 01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:35,640 Speaker 6: You look around and you go, oh, no, we're in 2048 01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:37,479 Speaker 6: a game and they can't get out from underneath it. 2049 01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:38,360 Speaker 6: That's what that is. 2050 01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:42,000 Speaker 1: Ravens have found their sea legs twenty seven nineteen over 2051 01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:45,120 Speaker 1: the Vikings. Are the Ravens They're real, right, I mean 2052 01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:45,800 Speaker 1: they're back. 2053 01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:49,160 Speaker 3: Maybe they're going to win a division because their schedule 2054 01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:52,080 Speaker 3: is favorable. And does anybody really think the Steelers are 2055 01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:52,479 Speaker 3: very good? 2056 01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:53,160 Speaker 1: True? 2057 01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:54,920 Speaker 4: No, they're fading. 2058 01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:59,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretend us Jets over the Browns twenty seven to twenty, 2059 01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,800 Speaker 1: Patriots over the Buccaneers twenty eight to twenty three, and 2060 01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:07,240 Speaker 1: the Patriots are winning games In the quarterback play Drake. 2061 01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:10,240 Speaker 3: That game run Austin. They're gonna go in a ten 2062 01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:10,960 Speaker 3: game winning streak. 2063 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:12,200 Speaker 4: You got talk abt offensive lines. 2064 01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:15,280 Speaker 5: Drake Man I think is the second highest sacked quarterback 2065 01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:15,920 Speaker 5: in the NFL. 2066 01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,639 Speaker 4: An MVP conversation doesn't even matter. 2067 01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:24,320 Speaker 1: Seahawks over the Cardinals forty four to twenty two, Rams 2068 01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:26,559 Speaker 1: over the Niners forty two to twenty six. Setting up 2069 01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:29,560 Speaker 1: that Ram Seahawks game coming up next, it's gonna be 2070 01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:30,240 Speaker 1: a bloodbath. 2071 01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:31,559 Speaker 3: Well think about it. 2072 01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:33,920 Speaker 6: Both of them throw the ball down the field, which 2073 01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:37,280 Speaker 6: most teams don't do anymore. You know, Darnold's average went 2074 01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,719 Speaker 6: in a Sunday average in nine point six per attempt, 2075 01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:41,320 Speaker 6: and both of them could rush the passer. 2076 01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:44,680 Speaker 3: They got good, fierce defensive lines. That's what do you 2077 01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:45,599 Speaker 3: want in this league. 2078 01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:46,960 Speaker 6: You want to be able to throw the ball and 2079 01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,320 Speaker 6: get the big plays and knock the other guys down. 2080 01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:50,320 Speaker 3: Guy down when. 2081 01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:52,160 Speaker 6: He so he can't throw the ball and get big plays. 2082 01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,360 Speaker 6: And they can both do that. They are the two 2083 01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,000 Speaker 6: best teams in the league right now, with. 2084 01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:00,519 Speaker 1: One of them winning the Super Bowl. Is one of 2085 01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:01,840 Speaker 1: those teams gonna win the Super Bowl. 2086 01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,679 Speaker 6: Let me ask you this, though, I think Seattle's better 2087 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:06,880 Speaker 6: right now. But in the end, would you rather have 2088 01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:08,200 Speaker 6: Stafford over Darnold. 2089 01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:13,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, if he's healthy, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, salty vett. 2090 01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,760 Speaker 1: He's thrown for what four touchdowns or more? And how 2091 01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:17,680 Speaker 1: many games down in a row, like five or. 2092 01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,519 Speaker 3: Something, and and he's won a Super Bowl already. Yeah, right, 2093 01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:22,080 Speaker 3: so you know he's in a big moment. He's gonna 2094 01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:22,439 Speaker 3: show off. 2095 01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:22,920 Speaker 4: He gets it. 2096 01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,599 Speaker 1: Lions are going to show up too. Seems like forty 2097 01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:26,559 Speaker 1: four to twenty two. 2098 01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:29,320 Speaker 3: Over the They call it change. They got rid of 2099 01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:33,760 Speaker 3: old Jaguars White Lightning, Johnny Lightning, Johnny Morton took away 2100 01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:35,600 Speaker 3: his play. That's what his nickname was. When he was 2101 01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:36,160 Speaker 3: in Jacksonville. 2102 01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:40,360 Speaker 6: White, and they took away his play calling duties and 2103 01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:42,080 Speaker 6: Dan Campbell took it over and they look like a 2104 01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:42,799 Speaker 6: better offense. 2105 01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:45,439 Speaker 1: Did you get to scout the Chargers last night and 2106 01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,920 Speaker 1: they're twenty five to ten win over the Steelers Austin I. 2107 01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,280 Speaker 5: Did, Yeah. I mean you see a tight end right 2108 01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:52,879 Speaker 5: now that plays like Antonio Gates. You see Lad McConkie 2109 01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:54,559 Speaker 5: is going to cause problems if he's in the slot. 2110 01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:57,200 Speaker 5: You see Keenan Allen still depend them only then have 2111 01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:59,200 Speaker 5: good game last night, but like he stilled the Pennama 2112 01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,160 Speaker 5: receiver and they can run the football every once in 2113 01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:03,120 Speaker 5: a while with uh the die down. 2114 01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:07,680 Speaker 3: So and they played good defense on that. That was 2115 01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,720 Speaker 3: the thing that stood out to me was they got 2116 01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:11,320 Speaker 3: after the quarterback and played good deep. 2117 01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:13,320 Speaker 5: They're getting better on defense that it was kind of 2118 01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:15,240 Speaker 5: their achilles heel for the first part of the season. 2119 01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:17,200 Speaker 5: They seem to figure some stuff out. Now Khalil Max 2120 01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,840 Speaker 5: back getting healthier, so it'll be a challenge for the 2121 01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:20,519 Speaker 5: jug Wars. 2122 01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,360 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lock anything in doors off the hinges 2123 01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:25,479 Speaker 4: until doors off the hinges till further. 2124 01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:32,120 Speaker 3: Notice, there there will be no lock zero. Okay, team 2125 01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:37,680 Speaker 3: twenty six points in the fourth quarter. Gonna lock that day, No. 2126 01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:41,000 Speaker 1: Way, not right now. It's a home game, Pete, it 2127 01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:41,599 Speaker 1: is a home. 2128 01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:43,960 Speaker 5: It's a it's a home. 2129 01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:45,439 Speaker 3: And anything you have to watching that. 2130 01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,960 Speaker 1: Craft Monday Night Football. It's a massive game in the 2131 01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:51,720 Speaker 1: NFC and a battle of first place teams. Jalen Hurts, 2132 01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:54,439 Speaker 1: Saquon Parkley and the Philadelphia Eagles at six and two, 2133 01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,599 Speaker 1: visit Jordan Love and the five two and one Green 2134 01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,880 Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Who you got it? Lambeau Field at the. 2135 01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:04,519 Speaker 5: I'm taking the team that knows who they are a 2136 01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:05,679 Speaker 5: little more of than another team. 2137 01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:06,639 Speaker 4: I'm taking the Eagles. 2138 01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:10,360 Speaker 5: I think Matt Lafleur with Jordan Love, they don't really 2139 01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:12,440 Speaker 5: know what they want to do sometimes with their wide receivers. 2140 01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,080 Speaker 5: It's more of the Josh Jacobs show. I think they're 2141 01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:16,680 Speaker 5: confuser now what they're going to do on offense. Go 2142 01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:18,439 Speaker 5: and give me the Eagles who are gonna pound the 2143 01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:20,600 Speaker 5: rock with Saquon, and then give Devonte Smith and A. J. 2144 01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:21,320 Speaker 4: Brown some love. 2145 01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:24,599 Speaker 3: I'm gonna think the package I think this is they're 2146 01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:27,360 Speaker 3: gonna put. It's just like last week they looked ahead, 2147 01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:30,160 Speaker 3: lost the game. They put so much into this and 2148 01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,559 Speaker 3: remember they're the team that called, and they're the ones 2149 01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:35,519 Speaker 3: who wanted the tush push band. 2150 01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:39,320 Speaker 6: They put the proposal before everybody. They're also bitter about 2151 01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,920 Speaker 6: the fumble in the playoff game, remember that one on 2152 01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,560 Speaker 6: the opening kickoff when they recovered it and they said, no, 2153 01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:45,160 Speaker 6: they didn't. 2154 01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:48,040 Speaker 3: They they're bitter. They don't like the Eagles, and I 2155 01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:49,519 Speaker 3: think they're gonna find a way to win the game. 2156 01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:51,160 Speaker 3: Micah Parsons has a big day tonight. 2157 01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,280 Speaker 4: Ooh, I like that. A big night tonight. 2158 01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:56,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, big night tonight, big game tonight, big game tonight. 2159 01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:59,960 Speaker 1: Whatever he's gonna play. Well, that's the prediction from Pete. 2160 01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:04,719 Speaker 1: That's a lock certain, Pete Prisco, Austin Lane, I'm JP 2161 01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,559 Speaker 1: Shadwick and yeah the Jags are five and four and 2162 01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:10,559 Speaker 1: now they're back home next week. LA Chargers salute the 2163 01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:15,560 Speaker 1: service game one o'clock kickoff time. Spiroditas and Adam Rchalletta 2164 01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:18,840 Speaker 1: and Aditi Kinkawala, the Jaguars TV network folks are back 2165 01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:20,759 Speaker 1: for a big ball game. Should be a good one. 2166 01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:22,720 Speaker 5: I'm hoping you're right back in. 2167 01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:26,200 Speaker 3: You go win it. You got good feelings all over again. 2168 01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:27,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's loose. 2169 01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:29,559 Speaker 3: Trevor play loose. 2170 01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:31,920 Speaker 5: It's gonna be a tough game, and worst comes the worst. 2171 01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:33,760 Speaker 5: If it is a bad game for the Jaguars, let's go. 2172 01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:36,200 Speaker 4: To the fair, right next dog, so I can just 2173 01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:38,080 Speaker 4: walk on and go to the fray. That would be. 2174 01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:44,720 Speaker 1: For that game. I might no funnel cakes for it. 2175 01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,880 Speaker 1: I'll go funnel cakes for me. It's Pete Prisco, Austin Lane. 2176 01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm JP Shaddick. Thanks to our entire crew, Joe fortuneight O, 2177 01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,200 Speaker 1: Brent Reaver, and thanks to you for watching and listening. 2178 01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:54,360 Speaker 4: Jaguars Happy Hour