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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, Mark, this is Checklise Happy Hour. And

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Speaker 1: now the guy who originally posted pizza rat, J P. Shadre,

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Speaker 1: we might be posting a new one at this rate.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: My name's J. P. Shadrick. We've got a program for

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Speaker 1: you today, busy show ahead. Jaguars analyst Jeff Logaman coming up.

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Speaker 1: He's in studio with a free agency review. He has

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Speaker 1: been doing a deep dive into the tape and he'll

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Speaker 1: have some answers on what these new free agents bring

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Speaker 1: to the table. We'll hear from Pro Football Focus Director

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Speaker 1: of Content Austin Gale, coming up at four thirty. PFF

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Speaker 1: has a podcast series coming out in April following Aiden

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Speaker 1: Hutchinson through his run at Michigan, with like over fifty

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Speaker 1: interviews and volved in this podcast series. We'll hear from

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Speaker 1: Austin and get his take on putting that together at

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Speaker 1: least so far, and maybe some other thoughts about the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft, and we'll go around again NFL. Another week

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Speaker 1: of big time, massive moves in the NFL, involving a

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Speaker 1: couple of quarterbacks. Wide receivers are moving now and there

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Speaker 1: are draft picks and money flying all over the place.

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Speaker 1: Jeff log'men joining us now and we've got a Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll today. We want your input on this logs. UM

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Speaker 1: did this earlier today on the Twitter poll. Yeah, okay

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Speaker 1: at j P. Shadrick. Check out the Twitter poll. It

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Speaker 1: was a conversation. Vote well, but not on my phone.

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Speaker 1: You have a phone of your own. You can do

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Speaker 1: it on your own. I know you're a big Twitter guy.

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Speaker 1: So we had a conversation in the office today. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you have some insight to this. UM. You know the

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Speaker 1: move the change chan at the game, the Jaguars games,

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Speaker 1: move the chains, moved the chains, moved the chains. What

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Speaker 1: is the word at the end? The options are move them? Uh,

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Speaker 1: who are or huh? And right now we've got four

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Speaker 1: votes of them say move them. But there's a caveat here.

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Speaker 1: A bunch of responses say it's just move single word move.

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Speaker 1: What do you think there's a chant at the stadium

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Speaker 1: move those chains, move the chains, move the chains whatever. Move.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard that. Well, you have headsets on. Probably

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Speaker 1: so that I can participate in your Twitter poll. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean you can, you can participate. So you're asking

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Speaker 1: if you haven't heard, am I trying to? Here's the

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Speaker 1: thing is it? Is it a is an opinion or

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Speaker 1: is it a trivia question? I think it's an opinion

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Speaker 1: it a lot of different ways. So you're saying, move

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Speaker 1: those chains, move those chains, move those chains move, is

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Speaker 1: in here outside move Yeah, okay, great, thanks Lougs appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: So are we Are we having this as part of

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Speaker 1: your own Twitter account? Okay? If it's good for me,

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Speaker 1: it's good for me. Where the hell's this going? Yes?

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Speaker 1: I work with Pete Priscoe too much. That's what happens

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Speaker 1: you work with Pete. So that's why do I need

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Speaker 1: to start having Twitter polls on my handle? I mean,

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do that JP. I'll I'll do some JP

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Speaker 1: trivia and actually be opinion. I'll draw man let's get

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Speaker 1: Move those chains. Move move you think it is okay,

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Speaker 1: with the biggest money name of them all. Christian Kirk

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Speaker 1: came in for thirty seven million guaranteed dollars. Former second

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Speaker 1: dot comedy. But but but I'm not my twitter count

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Speaker 1: excellent receipts. Jander Hopkins, A J. Green was still there, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: see that he's got a pretty good job of anticipating.

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Speaker 1: He's got great speed, and I don't know that that

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Speaker 1: he that he does a great job of film study.

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Speaker 1: But when you watch certain guys play, when you watch

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Speaker 1: a J boy a play, when a J was here

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Speaker 1: I just remember going, there's no way that this guy

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Speaker 1: doesn't study a lot. And then from talking to the

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Speaker 1: coach that I found out that was the case that

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Speaker 1: a J studied the game and CREDI doably hard and

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Speaker 1: and I think that's the same type of thing that's

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Speaker 1: going on here a young player that's you know when

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Speaker 1: And I've kind of learned this through the years, players

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Speaker 1: long way, right, they have learned a work ethic that

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Speaker 1: somebody like Jaillen Ramsey may not have. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that Jillen doesn't have a great work ethic because

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Speaker 1: I haven't been around much. He's got all world talent

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Speaker 1: and things can't do right exactly. And so guys that

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Speaker 1: work ethic to get to that high level because they've

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Speaker 1: Darius Williams is a guy that you can tell that

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Speaker 1: he's got a good work ech, that you can tell

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Speaker 1: when you watch him play that that he plays the

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Speaker 1: game with a little bit of anticipation, and that's obviously

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Speaker 1: through film Studdy. I think it's gonna be very interesting

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Speaker 1: think that's gonna be one of the big question marks

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Speaker 1: until you see it, you really won't know what it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be. Will be fun to watch whenever they come

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Speaker 1: up with us, for sure, that's the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. And if you're watching us on Jaguars dot com,

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Speaker 1: a scratch pack has shown up on the desk here,

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Speaker 1: and season ticket members who are nude before last week's

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Speaker 1: of it. We're gonna open one up here. Not all

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Speaker 1: but they come with different things. Inside of them, like

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Speaker 1: so memorabilia signed mini helmet here it looks like Leaviscus

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Speaker 1: Duvall season ticket member hatlocks. Yeah, I like that. It's

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Speaker 1: not big enough for my I don't think. And then

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Speaker 1: this might be I'm gonna guess this is probably one

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Speaker 1: got a Trevor Lawrence autograph jersey. And how about that?

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Speaker 1: Not the same you know, don't think you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: a Trevor Lawrence autograph jersey, but somebody will because this

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Speaker 1: one's going out. Unfortunately, it's not going home with me.

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Speaker 1: How about that? I like that. So if you're renewed

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Speaker 1: before the deadline, you are entered to win a scratch pack.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't renewed for season tickets yet, you have

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Speaker 1: until Friday tomorrow before your seats are released, so you're

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Speaker 1: good size. Is that jersey just out of curiosity? It's

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Speaker 1: a good question there, because you know, jerseys that are

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Speaker 1: made for the for the pro players of today. Okay,

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Speaker 1: hold it up one time. Let's just out of curiosity.

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Speaker 1: I want to see if it would fit you. Oh yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: be very tight. But I'm not gonna wear Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: autograph jersey. I'm gonna frame this thing. You kidn't me well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know some people would wear that. But

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Speaker 1: my my point is is that the jerseys of today's

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Speaker 1: time ago because they're they're snug fit and literally sometimes

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Speaker 1: it takes guys ten minutes to get into their shoulder

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Speaker 1: pads with their jerseys of nowadays. Let's say most things

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Speaker 1: are snug fit for me to these days. So if

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Speaker 1: you're not a season ticket, remember Jaguars dot slash tickets

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Speaker 1: in place your deposit. Today we're back in a moment,

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Speaker 1: Austin Gale of Pro Football Focus joins us previewing an

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Speaker 1: upcoming Aidan Hutchinson podcast series on PFF. And this is

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour Thursday afternoon, j P. Shadrick with

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Speaker 1: Jeff Lockman. Glad you're along with us. Today we've discussed

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Speaker 1: the free agent additions for the Jacksonville Jaguars, at least

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Speaker 1: the Big seven, the first seven film little bit we

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Speaker 1: haven't we have gotten him to him too much, not

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Speaker 1: too much. We've got some time for that. We got

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Speaker 1: to that coming up in just a little bit. We

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Speaker 1: got through the wide receivers, the tight ends, and of

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Speaker 1: course the defensive editions for the Jaguars. Let's switch gears,

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Speaker 1: now loogs and go looking forward. Five weeks from tonight,

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft gets underway in Las Vegas. The Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't heard, have the number one overall pick.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to online and a special guest joining us

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Speaker 1: now from Pro Football Focus, Austin Gale, director of content

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Speaker 1: for PFF, launching a four episode podcast series entitled hutch

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Speaker 1: in April, and yes that hutch is Aiden Hutchinson. First off, Austin,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the time. How you doing doing great man?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Yeah, no doubt so for interviewing

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Speaker 1: all these people around Aiden Hutchinson in his time in Michigan,

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Speaker 1: it's been you know, a little bit of rocky road.

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Speaker 1: He was banged up, a little bit, missed some time,

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Speaker 1: comes back last year he's a Heisman finalist. Um, you

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Speaker 1: know how many people did you have to interview for

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Speaker 1: this podcast series? Yeah? I mean I wouldn't say have

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Speaker 1: to interview. I wanted to interview a lot of these people,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of these have been set up by

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Speaker 1: our director Communications, David. So far. We also went to

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Speaker 1: the University of Michigan, so that process has been made

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Speaker 1: easier by him. But we've interviewed over fifty people, right,

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Speaker 1: We've been over fifty people talking to everyone we possibly

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Speaker 1: can to help tell Aidan Hutchinson's story, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of it has been awesome and so consistent as well,

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Speaker 1: but just the type of player and the type of

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Speaker 1: human being Aidan Hutchinson is. I've interviewed pretty much every

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Speaker 1: member of his nuclear family, a lot of media, a

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Speaker 1: lot of draft analysts, a lot of players that he

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Speaker 1: played with, pretty pay Um, you know, Julius welsh Off,

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Speaker 1: his roommate there at Michigan. It's been really, really fun

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Speaker 1: just finding out who Aidan Hutchinson is, right because everyone

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Speaker 1: talks about him. He's just projected number one overall pick,

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Speaker 1: potentially a future Jacksonville Jaguar, and I really wanted to

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Speaker 1: dig into the type of player. He is, the guy

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Speaker 1: on and off the field, and he's had, you know,

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Speaker 1: a wild story, comes to Michigan as a four star

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Speaker 1: recruit where in the same jersey his dad did at

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Speaker 1: the University of Michigan up to live a legacy with

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Speaker 1: how Ensen as his last name, and from there plays

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Speaker 1: right away, does not burn a red shirt gear, plays

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Speaker 1: in that Don Brown defense, up and down with with

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Speaker 1: Shawn Gary Quite pay, Chase Winnivitch, Josh h Cha finally

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Speaker 1: has this opportunity to be the guy on campus. In

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Speaker 1: COVID abbreviated season, also gets hurt, breaks his ankle six

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Speaker 1: snaps into the Indiana game and ultimately was gonna make

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Speaker 1: a decision to go to the NFL Draft instead. With

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Speaker 1: the injury and with the COVID abbreviated season, knew he

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Speaker 1: had more to prove. Came back in for his senior

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Speaker 1: season in Well, the rest is history, and he probably

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Speaker 1: made himself a lot more money. Austin and uh And

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Speaker 1: by the way, out of all these fifty interviews that

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Speaker 1: you conduct, by the way, you know, this is really

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Speaker 1: kind of a vetting process. If you find out any

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Speaker 1: blemish whatsoever, please let us know so that we can

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Speaker 1: pass that on to the people here that make those decisions.

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Speaker 1: Because when you invest the kind of money that the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars are gonna invest in the first overall pick. You

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Speaker 1: gotta know everything. I haven't found a blemish yet. I'll

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Speaker 1: say that it's been tough dude talking to his dad

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Speaker 1: for an hour and a half, his mom for an hour,

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Speaker 1: all these different draft analysts, all these coaches, right. Some

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Speaker 1: of the more fascinating interviews that I've done have been

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Speaker 1: talking to coaches that have coached against him. I talked

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Speaker 1: to the offensive coordinator for the University of Watchington that

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Speaker 1: he went toe to toe within week two and said,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. You talked to Western Michigan,

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Speaker 1: who played him in week one, was watching Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 1: film to get a read on the defensive porter to

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's offense or defense, and he's said, I didn't

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Speaker 1: know what to do. We tried to run away from

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Speaker 1: trying Chip. We try to do all these things, and

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Speaker 1: he's a very difficult player to game plan for. And

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Speaker 1: that's what I found out time and time again talking

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Speaker 1: to these opponent coaches. I think my favorite interview has

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Speaker 1: probably been Penn State offensive line coach Philip trout Wine

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Speaker 1: talking to him about what are you telling your offensive

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Speaker 1: tackles to do when you get in these situations with

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Speaker 1: Aidian Hutsons. They don't block him one on one. Right,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna need a tight end, you're gonna need a

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Speaker 1: running back, and you're gonna need to run the football

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Speaker 1: far and far away from Maiden Hutchinson. Yeah, Austin, you know,

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Speaker 1: I played the position somewhat because he's a stand up

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Speaker 1: more of a stand up type of a guy. And

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Speaker 1: when I was in college, I was a stand up

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Speaker 1: middle linebacker, but when I was in the pros, I

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Speaker 1: was a defensive end. So I watched that position with

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Speaker 1: great interest, and and watching the film on Aiden Hutchinson,

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Speaker 1: I can't find as a guy that played that position.

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Speaker 1: I can't find anything that he does not do well.

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Speaker 1: I don't find any weakness. I don't see any weakness.

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Speaker 1: He's got a tremendous motor. He uh excels in every situation,

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Speaker 1: whether it's something that requires speed, stamina, strength, he does

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Speaker 1: everything exceptionally well. And so many different people probably want

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Speaker 1: to type cast him into a four or three or

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Speaker 1: three four at PFF. What do you guys think he

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Speaker 1: is gonna be or where he should be. I think

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Speaker 1: he can play both positions really well, whether his hands

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Speaker 1: in the ground or it's up. It's kind of up

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Speaker 1: to him and the team that wants to play him.

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Speaker 1: Talking to his agent and talking to Aiden specifically, so

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Speaker 1: he kind of prefers playing with his hand out of

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Speaker 1: the ground, but he said, I'll do whatever it takes.

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Speaker 1: I'll play nose tackle in the NFL if that's what

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Speaker 1: I have to do, if that's a team asked me

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Speaker 1: to do. I do think he's best on the edge

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Speaker 1: and being able to pin his ear back and pin

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Speaker 1: out of the ground. I think that's what's been and

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Speaker 1: really really where he's had the most success. Right, He

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Speaker 1: did a lot of that, that fascility, and I think

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Speaker 1: you're a hundred per set right. You hit the nail

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Speaker 1: on the head. I'm just like the type of player

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Speaker 1: he is. He's a complete player. Talking to head coach

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, he just checks every single box, athleticism, intangibles, production, measurables,

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Speaker 1: all these different boxes you need to check to be

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Speaker 1: a numbered overall pick, to be a top five pick

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's exactly what Aidan Hutchinson checks there

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Speaker 1: at the University of Michigan. There's strength and conditioning, coach

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Speaker 1: Ben Herbert, who's been there since, has molded Aidan Hutchinson's body.

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Speaker 1: They test forty one different key key performance indicators or

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Speaker 1: KPI is like neck inflection, hip abduction, all these different things.

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Speaker 1: He is a plus across the board, the best they've

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Speaker 1: seen over the last two years. Aidan Hutchinson is the

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Speaker 1: freak of nature coming out of Michigan. Austin Gale with

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Speaker 1: us from Pro Football Focus. I don't even want to

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Speaker 1: know what I would grade on those logs. I can't,

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Speaker 1: I can't. You wouldn't do very well, probably would do

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Speaker 1: very well. You know, there's there's a lot of Georgia

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Speaker 1: people around here, Austin, right, So what we hear a

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Speaker 1: lot from at least the Georgia fans is oh, the

643
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: Georgia offensive line ran this guy over. What was his

644
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Speaker 1: response his camps response to that game? And it's really

645
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Speaker 1: just one game and he can't really judge it on

646
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: one performance in one postseason game, can't you. I feel

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Speaker 1: Aiden's response to that game, specifically where he knows he's

648
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Speaker 1: gotten a lot of criticism, has been spectacular and that

649
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: he knows he did not play a perfect game and

650
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: that one but also understands that Kirby Smart and Todd

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Speaker 1: Monk and the opposite coordinator there for the University of

652
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: Georgia specifically created a game plan to where Aidan Hutchinson

653
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Speaker 1: and the other edge there, David A. Java, would not

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Speaker 1: beat them right. A lot of quick game got the

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Speaker 1: ball out quickly ran away from them to really make

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Speaker 1: sure that Aidan Hudson couldn't take over the game like

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Speaker 1: we saw in that Ohio state when they had an

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Speaker 1: inn arbor and talking to draft analyst Dame Brugler of

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Speaker 1: the Athletic Bucky Brooks of NFL Media, Downiel Jeremiah. Everyone

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Speaker 1: has the same reaction when you go back and watched

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Speaker 1: all twoint two. If anything, Georgia tipped their cap. The

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Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson showed a huge sign of respect to Aidan

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Speaker 1: Hutchinson with how they game plan to make sure they

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Speaker 1: he couldn't beat them right and now he could have

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Speaker 1: had a better game there. Obviously is that play against

666
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Speaker 1: Mary Salier where he gets put on his butt, But

667
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 1: like that, in my opinion, is an overreaction or recency

668
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Speaker 1: bias to say that knocks him down a peg or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I've also talked to to Mar Saier that left tackle

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Speaker 1: there for George and he even speaks to just the

671
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Speaker 1: dominance that Aidan Hutchinson was and how hard it was

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Speaker 1: to prepare for a player like him. All Right, Austin, PFF,

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Speaker 1: I think does a great job with the National Football

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Speaker 1: League throughout the year. Love your guys stuff, find ways

675
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Speaker 1: to get different pieces of information, and uh, it's very valuable.

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Speaker 1: P F also does kind of a ranking if I

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Speaker 1: am correct, about the prospects that are coming out in

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Speaker 1: the draft class this year. And Aidan Hutchinson is he

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Speaker 1: at the top, And if you wouldn't mind, please share

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Speaker 1: the top five that you have in order, let's go. Yeah,

681
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Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson right now is the best player on PFF

682
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Speaker 1: draft board. And for good reason. Right he is a

683
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Speaker 1: phenomenal player, like I said, checks all these different boxes

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Speaker 1: that we want to check when we see a player

685
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: that's production, measurables, intangibles, Athleticus is him. It's exactly what

686
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Speaker 1: he is. Forty one different kpi is there at the

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Speaker 1: University of Michigan, according to strength and conditioning coach Ben Herbert,

688
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Speaker 1: and he's a seen every single one number two player

689
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Speaker 1: on PFF. Strafford is Notre Dame Safety cal Hamilton's. There

690
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Speaker 1: are people that think cal Hamilton's might fall outside the

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Speaker 1: top eight, outside the top ten. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: those people are, but they're wrong. Halla Hamilton's is a

693
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Speaker 1: freak of nature. Yeah, he doesn't play a high value

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Speaker 1: position when you look at how much safeties are paid

695
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. He's two dang good to fall much

696
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Speaker 1: further past eight with the Atlanta Falcons. I think there's

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Speaker 1: a legitimate chance he goes number two to the Detroit Lines.

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Speaker 1: I think that's how good how Hamilton's is. At number three,

699
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Speaker 1: we actually have Derek Stickley Jr. Of l s U,

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Speaker 1: which a lot of that is a projection, right. He

701
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: has not had the year or the years that we've

702
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Speaker 1: expected from him since he had that insane true freshman

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Speaker 1: season for l s U in twenty nineteen. But what

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Speaker 1: he is and what he can be if fully healthy,

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Speaker 1: I do think it's truly special. At number four, it's

706
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: the second best edge defender in this class. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: it's Cavon Thibodeau of the University of Oregon. I do

708
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Speaker 1: think that a lot of the narrative around Cavon Thibodeau

709
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: is is exagerated. It's it's exaggerated to a degree. I

710
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: think that he's a very confident player and he believes

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Speaker 1: in himself. And while he does have interests outside of football,

712
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Speaker 1: I think he's a really good football player too. I

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Speaker 1: think what he can be in the NFL could be

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Speaker 1: as special is Aidan Hutchinson right. He has all the tools,

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Speaker 1: he has all the measuables. I'd be absolutely forward if

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Speaker 1: he makes it pass to Jets at number four overall

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Speaker 1: and then at number five kind of surprised to a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, but we have Charles Cross the Mississippi

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Speaker 1: State Office. Tackle is not just the best off of

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Speaker 1: the tackle in this class, but the number five overall player.

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Speaker 1: Guy that's graded super well for PF as a pass

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Speaker 1: protector in that Mikey jo offense ATMISSFIC Mississippi State. And

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Speaker 1: another guy too that is a very smooth moving athlete

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Speaker 1: at the position. I agree with with your rankings, with

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Speaker 1: the exception of your number five, I would change the

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Speaker 1: tackle from MENCI State and put him at number five.

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Speaker 1: I love that Ikey Kwana is my guy. I'm a

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Speaker 1: huge fan of Iki Kuana nsy State, who's the highest

729
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Speaker 1: grade of run blocking opfitie tackle according to PFF this

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Speaker 1: past season, and everyone talks about Trevor Penning, right, Trevor Penning,

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Speaker 1: the University of Northern Iowa officite tackle being this nasty,

732
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Speaker 1: gritty player. Ikey Kwanu is exactly that man. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to he just doesn't have the penalties that Trevor

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Speaker 1: Penning does have. I think Fonder doesn't get enough credit

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Speaker 1: for how nasty of a player he is. I think

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Speaker 1: there's room to improve as a pass protector, but it's

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Speaker 1: another really explosive athlete that has vastly, vastly improved of

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Speaker 1: the course of his career at nc States. Another player

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Speaker 1: I've talked to Autan. He has the same agency, same

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Speaker 1: marketing agency, Radian Sports with Aidan Hutchinson, a guy that

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Speaker 1: I've talked to a ton. Aiden has talked to a

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Speaker 1: ton in this process. A super nice guy that I

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Speaker 1: do think has all the tools on and off the

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Speaker 1: field to develop into a phenomenal player in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Austin Gale from Pro Football Focus. The podcast series is

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Speaker 1: entitled hutch Following Aiden Hutchinson through his journey at Michigan.

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Speaker 1: When does It Drop? When's the first one? Come out, Austin,

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Speaker 1: that will be scheduled for April or excited at least

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Speaker 1: all episodes on the same day the date tv D

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Speaker 1: but it will be in April. Okay, all four in

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Speaker 1: one day. I mean, this is this is a Stranger

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Speaker 1: Things drop here, this is a Netflix style drop. We're

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Speaker 1: going all in there making sure you guys can you guys?

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Speaker 1: Can you guys can binge watch all night long with

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Speaker 1: the popcorn? All right? Give him a follow Austin Gale,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the time and thanks for the insight. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you again down the line. Absolutely, thank you

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Speaker 1: Austin Gale from p f F. And there's no great

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Speaker 1: Like I said when I and I was being perfectly

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Speaker 1: honest with him, is that during the season when I

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Speaker 1: can get ahold of a PFF report, there's always some

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Speaker 1: kind of nuggets of information that you wouldn't even have

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Speaker 1: the NFL when we return. It's Shaghuar Happy Hour on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: And if you're watching us on Jaguar's YouTube Twitter, it's

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Speaker 1: the County. Oh no, no, no, no no. It is

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Speaker 1: the foot front of the Football Performance Center outside t

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Speaker 1: i A bank Field and it's muddy. Let's put it

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Speaker 1: that way. It's been raining for two days straight. There's

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Speaker 1: not a lot of work being done today, a lot

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Speaker 1: of sitting around and waiting for the sun to shine

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Speaker 1: again and things to dry up. They have poured some concrete,

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Speaker 1: some foundational work over the last weeks. When the County landfill,

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Speaker 1: I mean you've got a lot of dirt, and you've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of holes and piles of dirt, and

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Speaker 1: so I mean I'm not trying to be funny or anything.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying at first, when you look at it,

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Speaker 1: you got equipment and a bunch of stuff laying around,

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Speaker 1: so it doesn't look exactly like it's any kind of

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Speaker 1: gonna go in any direction. Well, I think it is

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Speaker 1: supposed to be open for business free training camps, so

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00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 1: it's got a little while to watch it grow. Yeah,

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00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: but here's the thing. You know, it's gonna be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see the time frame because you're trying to get

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Speaker 1: this ready for But look, also, you're you're on a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a deadline as far as getting some

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Speaker 1: fields back up and ready and ready to go for

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Speaker 1: a season in two So I mean, how is all

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Speaker 1: of that gonna work? I mean, I'm not on the

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Speaker 1: on the planning board of that, but I would be

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Speaker 1: curious to know at some point, how are they gonna

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Speaker 1: you know, because you have the indoor facility, you have

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Speaker 1: the field here inside of the stadium, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously they will use some some of those components to

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Speaker 1: get them through some of the stages they're gonna be happening,

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Speaker 1: but by training camp, you would think that that, okay,

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Speaker 1: those fields need to be ready and hopefully they will be.

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Speaker 1: Let's uh here from all people, Fred Taylor. He was

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Speaker 1: a surprise guest yesterday morning on Good Morning Football on

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Speaker 1: NFL Network. It was Maurice Jones Drew's birthday yesterday. Take

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Speaker 1: a listen. I remember Fred before all the media stuff.

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Speaker 1: Now he's a media mogul. You know, I had listen.

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Speaker 1: I just want to know when can I get on

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Speaker 1: the Pivot? I want I don't you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be like a b and put the mask on.

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Speaker 1: I just want to sit back and chill, maybe have

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Speaker 1: some koon yak is something and kick back, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean talking, you know, whatever it is. I

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Speaker 1: got your birthday bottle on deck. Uh. You know our schedules,

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Speaker 1: Din allow us to cross paths when you were just

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Speaker 1: recently here in South Florida. But we'll we'll get it

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Speaker 1: lined up. Certainly, we'd love to have you on this show,

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Speaker 1: Fred Taylor. Of course, Sarah cost on Postgame Radio and

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Speaker 1: has fairly recently started a new podcast. Ryan Clark is

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Speaker 1: a part of that as well, called The Pivot. It's

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Speaker 1: on their YouTube channel and they do a great job.

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Speaker 1: They just had to steve to day Smith a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, they had Antonio Brown on the show.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they get some big time names that come

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Speaker 1: in and sit down. It's three guys interviewing the one.

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Speaker 1: It's having having Antonio Brown's a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: clown show. It was something that was quite an episode.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, so that was good to see on on

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Speaker 1: NFL Network yesterday. Let's go around the NFL. Let's do that.

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Speaker 1: Let's there's been a big money a lot of people

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Speaker 1: moving around the NFL, including DeShawn Watson. Big money with

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. How about that. I just think it's

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Speaker 1: it's crazy. I I can't see how a team would

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Speaker 1: commit that much and guaranteed money to a player that

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Speaker 1: has this this cloud of suspicion, this unresolved civil cases, slash,

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Speaker 1: unresolved possible indictment in a different county besides Houston, the

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Speaker 1: second grand jury that could charge him. That story came

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Speaker 1: out just a few hours. I think it just it

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00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: just goes to owe you that you'll do anything to

847
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Speaker 1: get a quarterback and how important that position is, including

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Speaker 1: making maybe a deal with the devil. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying he's the devil. I'm just saying is that you

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Speaker 1: can't guarantee that kind of money for a player that

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Speaker 1: that has those issues, in my opinion, shocking the player

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Speaker 1: who does not have those issues, as Matt Ryan. He's

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Speaker 1: heading to the Indianapolis Colts after fourteen years in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Of course, has an m v P Trophy. He was

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Speaker 1: three lead in the Super Bowl that slipped away as

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Speaker 1: they kept throwing the football around. But Matt Ryan, after

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Speaker 1: that really nice career in Atlanta, Let's let's see if

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Speaker 1: Indy um it's the move Indy needs. And well, they

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Speaker 1: guaranteed the rest of his contract. I'm not happy about

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Speaker 1: that because I think the Colts have seriously upgraded their

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Speaker 1: quarterback position from Carson Wentz. I was kind of hope

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Speaker 1: and that they would be stuck in no quarterback lane.

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Speaker 1: But kudos to them for because Matt Ryan. Obviously, with

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Speaker 1: the situation with the Atlanta Falcons courtship of Deshaun Watson themselves,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that the ship had sailed when it came

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Speaker 1: to Matt Ryan and uh and he's as good of

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Speaker 1: a quarterback as you could get at this point of

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Speaker 1: the game. So the one guy that's kind of still

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Speaker 1: floating out there now is Baker Mayfield. I think he

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Speaker 1: is the next quarterback domino to fall at some point,

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Speaker 1: But where I don't know. I think I think that's

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Speaker 1: a great question. Seattle. Possibly, Yeah, yeah, possibly Seattle. I

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Speaker 1: think that would be a good fit for for him. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The reports are people are saying that Baker Mayfield needed

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Speaker 1: a big slice of humble pie. Could this be it

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Speaker 1: for Baker Mayfield? They felt that he was getting a

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Speaker 1: little bit too big for his bridges in Cleveland, and

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Speaker 1: uh needs a little bit of a dose of reality.

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Speaker 1: Well this is certainly a big dose of reality because

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Speaker 1: they gave a guy that has a big cloud over

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Speaker 1: his head a ton of guaranteed money. And uh, the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts, who who Baker Mayfield wanted to be traded to,

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Speaker 1: traded for Matt Ryan. So if that doesn't do it,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what else would. And then Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 1: to the Dolphins money? How about this scain big money?

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Speaker 1: I mean the draft picks that the Browns gave up

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Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson, the draft picks that the Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 1: gave up for Tyree Hill, and then not to mention

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Speaker 1: the amount of money that they're having to pay these guys.

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Speaker 1: It's it's that there There has never been a free

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Speaker 1: agent period in NFL history like this year. Never, never.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback position almost never changes shape, and it changed

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Speaker 1: across the league this year. Big name players, big name

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Speaker 1: players changing team and they're all coming to the a

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Speaker 1: f C too, you be, And it's and it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's not as if these are free agent moves. These

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Speaker 1: are are guys in our contract that are getting traded away.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady comes back, Yeah, he's back, And that was

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Speaker 1: That's like way down the list of storyline. It's really

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Speaker 1: it's just faded into oblivion now with all the recent happenings.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's the Rams model though, right they they

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Speaker 1: said forget them picks, except use a different word, and

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Speaker 1: you can say that when you stink at picking. If

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Speaker 1: you're good at picking, keep the picks. And the key

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Speaker 1: is that you're gonna be like the Ravens, the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, the teams that are perennial winners. Oh, by

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Speaker 1: the way, what do they do. They take the picks

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Speaker 1: and they pick good player and development. And okay, so

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Speaker 1: if you want to be a winner year after year

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Speaker 1: after year, keep those picks and make good selections. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I look around the NFL our thanks to and it's crazy,

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Speaker 1: crazy Tyree. And here's here's the thing. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: two guys that don't exactly have pristine backgrounds. And Shawn

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Speaker 1: Watson has the big cloud of suspicion over his head.

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. Let's not forget not long ago had a

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Speaker 1: major issue. There's a couple of INFID instances in his past. Yes, So,

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Speaker 1: and these guys are getting the kind of contracts that

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Speaker 1: they are. Wow, what you got this week? Clogs? What's

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Speaker 1: coming up? You got the video series? When's that happening? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Next week we're probably gonna do some filming. And so

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Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks, some uh, some video

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Speaker 1: stuff on the free agents. And then you know, I

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Speaker 1: started watching some of the prospects. Uh, Aidan Hutchinson watched him,

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Speaker 1: Thibodeau watched him, and we can talk about them at

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Speaker 1: some point. Your guy from Alabama, the left tackle Evan Neil,

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Speaker 1: who I'm not a big fan of. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he is even in the cam versation about being the

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Speaker 1: first overall pick of the draft. Cross from Mississippi State,

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Speaker 1: and uh, and I do want to say his name,

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Speaker 1: the guy from NTY statement Ikuana. Alright, that'll do it.

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Speaker 1: We'll got three more shows until the draft. And for

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Speaker 1: Joe Fortunado, Brent Reeber and Jeff Logman, I'm J. P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour on the

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