Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 1: the first two hours, Tom Brady officially announced his retirement.
Speaker 1: By the way, seven years ago tonight, Malcolm Butler had
Speaker 1: the interception against the Seahawks and Tom won the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: but announcing officially that he is going to step down
Speaker 1: at the age of forty four and whatever the next
Speaker 1: chapter is in his life now, Tampa Bay has to
Speaker 1: move on. What do you do at quarterback? Bruce Arian
Speaker 1: says he's coming back, but Tom Brady officially made an
Speaker 1: official and Adam Schefter somewhere is breathing a sigh of relief.
Speaker 1: Jim Harball is flirting with the Vikings. More on that
Speaker 1: coming up. It's college football signing day, boy, that's nice tomorrow,
Speaker 1: so Harball will be in Minnesota reportedly tomorrow, and its
Speaker 1: national signing Day tomorrow. Dawn's Jags, Saints, Texans, Vikings right
Speaker 1: now are coachless eight seven seven three d P Show
Speaker 1: email address DP at Dan Patrick dot Com, Twitter handle
Speaker 1: at DP show. We checked in with Seaton. He took
Speaker 1: a pie to the face and it was a was
Speaker 1: it a skyline pie to the face? Or was that
Speaker 1: gold store. Oh, we're checking. The team's on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but it was definitely chili and cheese.
Speaker 1: Chili and cheese. And now he's got to get into
Speaker 1: the sprinter van and they head to Nashville and then
Speaker 1: they go to Memphis. Hopefully they're in Memphis tonight. Some
Speaker 1: good eating along the way, that's for sure, all right.
Speaker 1: Poll question for the final hour time. Okay, we got
Speaker 1: a fun one. If you ran into Seaton on his
Speaker 1: cross country trip, you'd hit him with a pie or
Speaker 1: bake him a pie? Right now? Fifty three percent rather
Speaker 1: hit him with a pie. Forty seven would bake him.
Speaker 1: One who wrote that that would be me. I thought
Speaker 1: that'd be kind of a fun, especially right after you
Speaker 1: just got hit with a pie. That'd be a fun
Speaker 1: silly final hour poll Okay, uh, I'm gonna let it go.
Speaker 1: You don't like that one, It's okay. It'll be appropriate
Speaker 1: and timely and silly. Why don't want to encourage people
Speaker 1: to go up and hit Seaton with an object here?
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's gonna bake him a pie. Now
Speaker 1: you're encouraging these people, encouraging that. It was worded if
Speaker 1: you happen to write into Seaton on his cross country trip,
Speaker 1: would you rather mad? Which one are you going to do?
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Speaker 1: watch for free. So we spend a little bit of
Speaker 1: time trying to figure out what's going on at Jim Harball,
Speaker 1: Tom Pelicero, the NFL network. He broke the news that
Speaker 1: Harball is going to fly into Minnesota. Like, now it
Speaker 1: gets real. You know, it's one thing if hey, I'm
Speaker 1: hearing maybe he's reaching out to the Raiders or vice versa.
Speaker 1: And now you have him going to Minnesota. Now this
Speaker 1: changes thing feels a little bit more real. But I'm
Speaker 1: don't take my word take Sam Webb's word for it.
Speaker 1: He's the publisher of the Michigan Insider dot com. On
Speaker 1: twenty four seven, sports morning show, host of Sports Talk
Speaker 1: ten fifty the Ticket, Sam joins us. Now, Sam, thanks
Speaker 1: for joining us on short notice. So Jim, Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 1: going to Minnesota means what to you? It means that
Speaker 1: he's serious about this job. You know, you're right Dan,
Speaker 1: that this is different than past sort of I think
Speaker 1: media driven, media driven storylines. I don't think that Jim
Speaker 1: Harbaugh really pursued this in years past. But make no mistake,
Speaker 1: he is going after this job. He could have silenced
Speaker 1: this quickly, he didn't. I think there's a message in that,
Speaker 1: and that this is so public that he is going
Speaker 1: to Minnesota at a time where he is trying to
Speaker 1: hire a defensive coordinator. I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: are making a big deal about him traveling there on
Speaker 1: national signing today. They aren't signing any prospects coming up
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, but it is transferred portal time. There are
Speaker 1: things that you're doing to prepare for spring ball, to
Speaker 1: prepare roster management. Right his focus is on Minnesota. He
Speaker 1: is going there to get this job. That makes this different.
Speaker 1: And everyone that I talked to, whether they be around
Speaker 1: ann Arbor agents in the NFL, that I talked to,
Speaker 1: they all expect that if the Minnesota Vikings offer Jim
Speaker 1: Harbaugh this job, he will take it. I thought Michigan
Speaker 1: was his dream job. He like, what what? What is?
Speaker 1: What is transpired here in the last twelve months. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's it's funny. I get that question a lot. And look,
Speaker 1: I'm I can only try to get in Jim Harbaugh's
Speaker 1: head so much. I don't know him as well as
Speaker 1: his family or his friends that have been around him
Speaker 1: his entire life. But I've gotten to know him as
Speaker 1: as well as a media member could get to know
Speaker 1: him over the past seven years. And what I could
Speaker 1: say is when he came to town, it was like
Speaker 1: he was the princess of Munda. They were throwing the
Speaker 1: rose petals at his feet, right. And you get six
Speaker 1: years into the process, you have real adversity, and you
Speaker 1: you have the people who anointed you from day one
Speaker 1: sort of turning on you, and they sort of remind
Speaker 1: you that while you came home and this is your place,
Speaker 1: this is a job and support kind of road here
Speaker 1: like it a rose anywhere. So being on the prescipice
Speaker 1: of losing your job has a way of sort of
Speaker 1: reminding you or giving you that perspective. I think it's
Speaker 1: that I think that realizing that there might be another
Speaker 1: opportunity that's better for him personally. There might be a
Speaker 1: situation that's better for his family. The window will never
Speaker 1: be wider than it is now. He's coming off his
Speaker 1: biggest success at Michigan. There are slew of teams, or worse,
Speaker 1: slew of teams that he had connections to. The iron
Speaker 1: is never gonna be hotter than it is now. He's
Speaker 1: fifty eight now. It only gets harder to get an
Speaker 1: NFL job after this. So I think the convergence of
Speaker 1: all of those things makes this an ideal time. And
Speaker 1: while I think he's loyal to Michigan, he loves Michigan.
Speaker 1: I think probably in his mind he will say I
Speaker 1: got him back, I got him back to being in
Speaker 1: the picture in the national title Hunt. I left it
Speaker 1: better than I found it. Now I can do something
Speaker 1: that might be better for me personally, might be better
Speaker 1: for my family. I think that's how he's probably looking
Speaker 1: at it. But the irony of this is Sam he
Speaker 1: beat Ohio State, and because he beat Ohio State, he
Speaker 1: became a little bit more of a hot candidate. If
Speaker 1: he loses to Ohio State, then it saw same old story.
Speaker 1: He beats Ohio State, and that might be the reason
Speaker 1: why he's back, you know, on the front burner. It
Speaker 1: is ironic. It's ironic in that you know, his name
Speaker 1: was out there last year like it had never been before,
Speaker 1: and there were no real takers. But again, I think
Speaker 1: it's also the case that in this cycle you just
Speaker 1: mentioned he's this hot name. I think it's all relatives.
Speaker 1: I think it's hot relative to what he was last
Speaker 1: year when there were no takers. Now, I mean, how
Speaker 1: many jobs did you have opened? Eight? And while Jim
Speaker 1: Harbaugh's name was attached to a bunch of these jobs
Speaker 1: in the media, you talk to NFL people and his
Speaker 1: name wasn't like really in the mix for all these jobs.
Speaker 1: Why is this? People keep asking, why is he dragging
Speaker 1: this out so long? You take it out as long
Speaker 1: as it takes for a team to show real interest. Right,
Speaker 1: So this is the team showing real interest. It happens
Speaker 1: to be in the twenty third hour. It's related to
Speaker 1: quessey A Dopo Mensa getting that job, a guy that
Speaker 1: he worked with in San Francisco. So this, I think
Speaker 1: even more so, Even as much as beating Ohio State
Speaker 1: puts you on the radar, it's also I think really
Speaker 1: revealing that it took this. It took to this point
Speaker 1: in this cycle for him to get a real taker.
Speaker 1: I think that's another reason why if you're him, man,
Speaker 1: you better jump on his train while it's here. Is
Speaker 1: Jim Harball coaching Minnesota or Michigan next season? I think
Speaker 1: that's all about what Minnesota wants to do. If Minnesota
Speaker 1: offers him that job, I really believe he will take it.
Speaker 1: I think it's a prime opportunity. I think he's confident
Speaker 1: in where he left it. I think he probably sees
Speaker 1: a successor on his staff. He probably will will speak
Speaker 1: up for one of them, I imagine before he goes so.
Speaker 1: I think he's feeling pretty good about Michigan state and
Speaker 1: about Michigan's state, and then I think with that it
Speaker 1: gives him comfort in moving on to the next thing
Speaker 1: for him. So if because this is what I can't quantify,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're going to offer him the job.
Speaker 1: It seems like it's leaning that way. People I talk
Speaker 1: to say that he's Questiodopho Menza's number one target. If
Speaker 1: that's the case, and he knocks this interview out of
Speaker 1: the park and they're offering the job, he will take
Speaker 1: good stuff, Sam, thanks for joining us, all right, Thanks
Speaker 1: a load. Dan appreciated at Sam Webb, publisher of the
Speaker 1: Michigan Insider dot com, twenty four seven sports and morning
Speaker 1: show hosts of Sports Talk ten fifty. The ticket man.
Speaker 1: The NFL just keeps on giving, and if offered the job,
Speaker 1: does Jim take it. This is what I still don't
Speaker 1: understand about the Dolphins, Steven Ross. If you say I
Speaker 1: don't want to poach him from Michigan, but then Minnesota
Speaker 1: is going to poach him from Michigan. If you want
Speaker 1: him now, you should be saying, hey, Jim, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna leave, then you can be my head coach with
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Because I thought that all along when you've
Speaker 1: fired Flores, that you were hiring Jim Harbaugh and you're
Speaker 1: going to let him go to the Minnesota Vikings. I'm
Speaker 1: surprised if that's the case. Yeah. And here's the other
Speaker 1: side of it. If Jim Harbaugh is using all this
Speaker 1: to play Michigan to get a pay raise, Stephen Ross
Speaker 1: would be involved in that. He's one of the biggest
Speaker 1: boosters for University of Michigan sports. He's covering both sides
Speaker 1: of it. Stephen Roth all right, A couple of phone
Speaker 1: calls phill in Indiana. High Phil, what's on your mind? Hey, Dan,
Speaker 1: always a pleasure. Hey, real quick. When you decide if
Speaker 1: and when you ever decide to retire, please, for the
Speaker 1: love of God, don't tell Adam Stefter. Pick somebody else, Dan,
Speaker 1: maybe Jeremy Shaff or somebody. I don't know, but hey, Dan,
Speaker 1: real quick. So you do think the blueprint now that
Speaker 1: to stop Mahomes is what Cincinnati did. So they rushed, three,
Speaker 1: drop seven, have a spy. I thought that was an
Speaker 1: incredible game plan, extremely effective. I'm just wondering how many
Speaker 1: teams look at that and try and duplicate that next year.
Speaker 1: Have a great week, Dan, Thank you, Phil. Always great
Speaker 1: to hear from you. I don't know about that. We
Speaker 1: always talk about blueprints. Remember the blueprint for beating the
Speaker 1: Chiefs was keep everything in front of you. Don't let Hill,
Speaker 1: don't let Kelsey beat you. Nothing over the top there,
Speaker 1: keep it all in front of you. And Mahomes had
Speaker 1: a hard time adjusting to that. Eventually did this year,
Speaker 1: and now you have this where you have three rushing
Speaker 1: and then you have a spy on Mahomes, and then
Speaker 1: you have seven in the secondary. I thought. I thought
Speaker 1: it was a desperate move by the Bengals, but they
Speaker 1: couldn't solve him. They had, you know, obviously a hard
Speaker 1: time in the first quarter. Here was Mike. I just
Speaker 1: kept thinking, Okay, at what point does Andy Reid offensive
Speaker 1: genius start running the ball? That's all you got Jared McKinnon,
Speaker 1: who I really like, Clyde Edwards as you drafted Mahomes
Speaker 1: can scramble. I would have put the pressure there and
Speaker 1: just said, we're gonna take up all the time on
Speaker 1: the clock. You're not gonna get anytime. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: methodical drives and you eventually are going to bring those
Speaker 1: defensive backs up and now I'm gonna beat you. I
Speaker 1: just didn't understand it. I thought it was it was
Speaker 1: one of those where you're watching a game and you're going, Okay,
Speaker 1: the Bengals countered, Okay, their defense in the beginning didn't work.
Speaker 1: Now what do we do. We're gonna go with this
Speaker 1: kind of gimmicky defense. And I kept waiting for the
Speaker 1: Chiefs to go, oh, okay, we see that and we'll
Speaker 1: raise you, and then they didn't, And I just thought,
Speaker 1: you can run the ball, you can run the ball
Speaker 1: all day long if you want to. You can have
Speaker 1: screen passes whatever it is. You can incorporate Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: and those jet sweeps, whatever those things are. But I
Speaker 1: just didn't I didn't understand it. Looking back on it
Speaker 1: and watching, I mean, it was a brilliant decision, but
Speaker 1: it might have been the only decision the Bengals had
Speaker 1: in that situation. Zack and Charlotte joins us on the program. Hey, Zach, Hey,
Speaker 1: but hey, hey, how about that guy Nick right man?
Speaker 1: That dude freaking stinks. Man, I'm out on him. He's great,
Speaker 1: like the way he's kind of going after you there.
Speaker 1: Oh no, anyway, he's a good guy. I want to
Speaker 1: speak with Fritzie if you don't mind, pretty I sure am.
Speaker 1: Hey Fritzie, I know it's been a rough couple of
Speaker 1: weeks since mclovin last, but I want to cheer you up.
Speaker 1: And I've got a joke to do that. So are
Speaker 1: you ready? Sure? I'm let's do it. Seventy nine is
Speaker 1: the new seventy eight. That's Mark Mark Albert, that's Marv Albert.
Speaker 1: There you go, great, keep your head up, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's got Seventy nine is the new seventy eight and
Speaker 1: then you laughed at that, Michael, But that was a
Speaker 1: good line though my mic still on. Yeah. Uh, I
Speaker 1: don't know if Marvin can pull that up sitting in
Speaker 1: there for Seaton, but classic moments in sports radio history. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of the greats of all time. Let me uh
Speaker 1: sneak in Jeff and Detroit. Hi, Jeff, let me know
Speaker 1: when you find that Mark you got it? Okay, here
Speaker 1: it is seventy nine is the new seventy eight? Todd?
Speaker 1: So I might I think that that sounds like we
Speaker 1: scripted it, and and Marv has no idea that Todd
Speaker 1: is on his you know, his microphone is professionally just
Speaker 1: kept going as if no one's talking in the background. Twice,
Speaker 1: Play one more time, n Todd. So I'll be watching it.
Speaker 1: I hope it gets off. I think that so bad. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's just no explanation. Yes, it was. It was horrible.
Speaker 1: I had been kind of doing this for a while,
Speaker 1: you know, being on the air, and you would think
Speaker 1: I would have got the button. Well, the Bill Hayter
Speaker 1: won when you were laughing out when when Bill Hayter
Speaker 1: did as Keith Morrison from Dateline impersonation. Yeah, like you
Speaker 1: left your microphone open during the interview. Uh, Jeff in Detroit?
Speaker 1: Hi Jeff, what's on your mind? He was going on?
Speaker 1: Then what up? No one time for chat row? You got?
Speaker 1: Sam Webb is right on something. They slighted him when
Speaker 1: they took away his salary, and I guess it made
Speaker 1: Jim Harball think that, you know, by them reducing the salary,
Speaker 1: he wasn't doing a good enough job. Now he's, you know,
Speaker 1: a hot commodity around town real quick. There's been a
Speaker 1: national joke going around about my city. And the joke
Speaker 1: is by Matt Staff are going to the super Bowl
Speaker 1: and eminem playing the super Bowl. That's the closest that
Speaker 1: Detroit will ever be to a super Bowl. They're wrong,
Speaker 1: You're wrong, bettterst winning the Super Bowl was the closest
Speaker 1: when the actual Super Bowl was here. So just to
Speaker 1: let them know, if you're gonna dog me out, make
Speaker 1: sure you got the right collar and leash for me. Wow,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? All right, Thank you, Jeff.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break. Bill Plashkey, the pomputer columnists for
Speaker 1: the La Times, get his thoughts on the Rams, the
Speaker 1: Rams of the Road team in the Super Bowl. Really Yeah,
Speaker 1: the designation. Yeah, the NFC team was going to be
Speaker 1: the road team in the Super Ball, so the Rams
Speaker 1: are the road team against the Bengals. All right, we'll
Speaker 1: take a break. More phone calls coming up back after this.
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Speaker 1: calls coming up. Fritzie has a new poll question. Is
Speaker 1: that what we're going with In the final forty minutes
Speaker 1: of the show, why not? Who's the best available head
Speaker 1: coaching candidate? Eric b Enemy thirty nine percent, Jim Harbor
Speaker 1: twenty two, Ryan Flores seventeen, other thirteen percent, and then
Speaker 1: it's Leftwich, Zimmer and Kellen Moore under that. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting to see if Byron Leftwich is going
Speaker 1: to get this Jacksonville John because it felt like it
Speaker 1: was inevitable last week. But and then Hardball go into
Speaker 1: the Vikings tomorrow. They talk to them. Bill Plashki, the
Speaker 1: great columnists for the La Times, Around the Horn contributor,
Speaker 1: and he joins us, now, Bill, will what will you
Speaker 1: miss most about Tom Brady? I miss the fact that
Speaker 1: you hated him. He's a one athlete in American culture
Speaker 1: where you I hated him for ten or fifteen years
Speaker 1: and and now I love him. I mean, he's I
Speaker 1: missed the fact that you the conflicting emotions around this guy,
Speaker 1: or no athlete has ever been so reviled and then
Speaker 1: so and then come through it and then been so loved.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's amazing the journey he's taken in
Speaker 1: our in our conscious. What made you hate Brady? He cheated? Well,
Speaker 1: let's don't forget let's don't forget this. He was arrogant.
Speaker 1: He was part of the Belichick arrogant era. People knew
Speaker 1: anybody come on Dan, anybody outside New England for years,
Speaker 1: Lord Brady. And then he goes to Tampa Bay and
Speaker 1: he does it without Belichick, and he does it on
Speaker 1: his own. He doesn't on his own terms. And now
Speaker 1: everybody loves him. And I think that's cool. But do
Speaker 1: you think that cheater label? How big is that label?
Speaker 1: Was it in capitol letters here? No? I think I
Speaker 1: think it got I think it became over. He won
Speaker 1: three super Bowls after that, so I think I think
Speaker 1: that became lowercase. But it's still part of his resume, right,
Speaker 1: and I'm amazed that some of these stories about his
Speaker 1: retirement don't have that in there. I mean, that's part
Speaker 1: of his legacy, for Pete's But again, he did. He
Speaker 1: was able to overcome and that's that's That's what I'll remember,
Speaker 1: is that he was able to overcome a whole most
Speaker 1: of the country outside of New England really not liking
Speaker 1: the guy, to everybody loving him and respecting him. What
Speaker 1: was that feeling like when the Rams winning to advance
Speaker 1: but putting maybe an end to Tom Brady's career. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I was there. It was amazing, It was It was
Speaker 1: amazing to me. I didn't think that, no way he
Speaker 1: was going to retire. The last he threw a fifty
Speaker 1: five yard touchdown pastor Mike Evans, We're watching the game
Speaker 1: and like, this guy's unstoppable. He's gonna come back and
Speaker 1: beat the Rams. He's a great he's still the greatest
Speaker 1: ever and it walks away. So it was it was
Speaker 1: watching the game, I thought, this guy's got five more
Speaker 1: years left in him. I mean, he was every bit
Speaker 1: as good as he's ever been. The whole press box
Speaker 1: was hushed watching this guy work. We wouldn't think we
Speaker 1: were watching a guy in the version of retirement. As
Speaker 1: that's another cool thing, all right. He walked away at
Speaker 1: the very very top of his game. He's as good
Speaker 1: he was good on when I saw him that final game.
Speaker 1: He's as good as that is when I saw him
Speaker 1: in his first game. Um, what would have happened if
Speaker 1: the Rams had lost that game the same day? That's
Speaker 1: gonn happen with the Lewis a Super Bowl. Dan, They're
Speaker 1: not done yet, buddy. It was interesting you said you
Speaker 1: sounded surprise that the Bengals were the Rams were a
Speaker 1: visiting team in the Super Bowl. They're there, visiting team
Speaker 1: every game. They don't yet have this town, but they're
Speaker 1: working on it, and it will be. If they lost
Speaker 1: that game, it'll be a devastation, but it'll be similar devastation.
Speaker 1: They've got to beat the Bengals. They have to in
Speaker 1: order to ensure their place and try to get on
Speaker 1: the pecking order with Lakers and Dodgers and SC football.
Speaker 1: They have to win this game. I mean, this game
Speaker 1: is set up for him. If they can't winning their
Speaker 1: home mess. I was just talking with with others about it,
Speaker 1: it'll be it's not gonna be. Well. They got this
Speaker 1: far good for them, you know, well tried, well hale
Speaker 1: and hardy guys. No, it'll be devastation. You blew it.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get ripped because they've got it. Because that's
Speaker 1: where they're at this town. They have to win a
Speaker 1: super Bowl championship to really forge their place in this
Speaker 1: community's landscape. If I said you could pick the Rams
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl or the Lakers to win
Speaker 1: another NBA title, oh, I think I'd picked the Rams
Speaker 1: because it's I like more teams and more fun and
Speaker 1: more variety. And I'm getting so sick of the lake
Speaker 1: Lebron's knee. Oh my god. The Lakers are just Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis makes me, oh my god. So yes, I think people,
Speaker 1: I think people would would rather be something different, something new.
Speaker 1: I mean, would they have a parade? Would anybody come?
Speaker 1: I'm sure there would be people parade. There'd be a
Speaker 1: lot of forty nine ers fans booing there. What do
Speaker 1: you what do you think the town's gonna be like? Though?
Speaker 1: Next week it's gonna be crazy because the Super Bowl's
Speaker 1: never about who's playing in the game anyway. I mean,
Speaker 1: Shack's got this big shock rented out the shrine or
Speaker 1: auditorium downtown. He's got this big party. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be huge. It's gonna be it's gonna be nuts
Speaker 1: and no COVID restrictions or anything. I mean even now
Speaker 1: you can go to like a Laker or a Clipper game,
Speaker 1: nobody's wearing mask. Nobody wears mask anywhere any you know,
Speaker 1: and at these biggest sports events, it's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 1: The rams, not with the Rams, are gonna be the
Speaker 1: smallest part of it. Everybody's crazy just because it's a
Speaker 1: super Bowl. It's la and it really it belongs here.
Speaker 1: It started here. I say, the super Bowl, welcome home.
Speaker 1: It should be here. It should be here every year.
Speaker 1: It's a perfect spot for As far as the trade
Speaker 1: for Matthew Stafford, can you can you give a final
Speaker 1: grade on that trade or do you have to let
Speaker 1: this play out a little bit longer. Jared Golf got
Speaker 1: him to a super Bowl, Dan he didn't win. Matthew's dad.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I know it sounds like we're being
Speaker 1: tough on these guys, but they welcome that. They welcome that.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, the pressure they haven't got no Matthew's Difford.
Speaker 1: It's unwritten. Yet, if you know, if he blows it
Speaker 1: against the bengalsten they've got to beat the Bengals. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs might have been a little different. They've got to
Speaker 1: beat the Bengals and Matthew's difford has to have a
Speaker 1: good game and then I think the whole thing on
Speaker 1: him is rewritten. But if not, then again, Jared Golf
Speaker 1: got him this far too, So that's I think the
Speaker 1: trade is still. I think you still have to hold
Speaker 1: your breath on that, because that's just again, Golf got
Speaker 1: into the big game too. Odell more likely to stay
Speaker 1: if they win or if they lose, well, that's it.
Speaker 1: I think if they lose it out of here, I think.
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's really happy. And I
Speaker 1: was wrong. I ripped him for Simon O'Dell. I thought
Speaker 1: it was a huge mistake. I thought he'd be a
Speaker 1: prima don. I thought he would demand the ball. I
Speaker 1: thought he'd lost this this step. I was dead wrong
Speaker 1: on him. Man, he's really been unbelievable. He's been the
Speaker 1: difference in the last I don't think they did here
Speaker 1: without him. I know Cooper cups the best receiver in football,
Speaker 1: but Odell clears it. You look at Cooper Cup, nobody
Speaker 1: regards him. Isn't amazing to you? You watch these games.
Speaker 1: Nobody's ever recovering Cooper Cup. I don't understand that. Maybe
Speaker 1: I don't know if about football, but I think Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham takes a lot of the attention away from him.
Speaker 1: He's been great here. I think if he wins, I
Speaker 1: think he stays because I think he does love the
Speaker 1: Hollywood life and he loves the spotlight. But he's been
Speaker 1: really good for this team, and I was really wrong
Speaker 1: about him. It's interesting when you talk about Odell liking
Speaker 1: the city and everything that goes with it, Cooper Cup
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like that's the city for his personality. No,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. He's so straight and narrow and so you know, understated.
Speaker 1: He's like some mountain man. It's weird. He loves Ambish
Speaker 1: and he seems he seems very reticent. I mean he's
Speaker 1: very He's a reluctant star. He's a absolutely is and
Speaker 1: that's what makes me so great. But still, how come
Speaker 1: nobody guards him? How come nobody's ever covered him? How
Speaker 1: come he's always open? I just don't came for you.
Speaker 1: But yes, he's very after the game to see Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup to be so excited he's done such great things.
Speaker 1: To see Cooper how did that great? You know, eighty
Speaker 1: eight seven year our Trushaun pass Field? It felt okay,
Speaker 1: that's a great quarterback. He's really boring. But it goes
Speaker 1: back to and I don't like making a white wide
Speaker 1: receiver reference to Cooper Cup, but Steve Largent was such
Speaker 1: a precise route runner and you would watch and you go,
Speaker 1: how is that guy open all the time? And I
Speaker 1: think route running is probably maybe a lost art because
Speaker 1: we just feel like it's just you get out there
Speaker 1: and you just go, you're athletic, five wide, let's go.
Speaker 1: And Cooper Cup is you provide good athleticism and route running,
Speaker 1: great hands size, you know. That's That's the one thing
Speaker 1: Nation trouble. McVay says a lot of things that I
Speaker 1: have no idea what the hell he's talking about. I
Speaker 1: don't understand half what he says. But he does say
Speaker 1: that Cooper Cup works the edge. Say he says exactly
Speaker 1: what you said, that he runs exactly precise routeses. It's geometry.
Speaker 1: It's why he's open. He said, he keeps he works
Speaker 1: the edges. He works the angles, he walks the fine line.
Speaker 1: He does it exactly the perfect way. And that's what
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what trauma explains it. I still don't
Speaker 1: understand it. Double team him, triple team him. Why why
Speaker 1: is he even getting Why is he not on the
Speaker 1: ground every time? It's just amazing to me. Do you
Speaker 1: like Sean McVay. I love him. Yeah, he's he's so
Speaker 1: energetic and he's so willing, whether it's real or not,
Speaker 1: to fall on a sword. You say, Sean, that was
Speaker 1: a terrible call. Yeah, I know, it's terrible calls my fault,
Speaker 1: but I lost the game every game he says, I
Speaker 1: lost the game. He who else admits moments after the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl that he got out coached. Everyone knew Belicheck
Speaker 1: out coached him, and he admitted it and he said
Speaker 1: he was numb. Yeah. Yeah, I love the guys. His
Speaker 1: energy is great for the town. But he's got to
Speaker 1: win too. He's this boy genius, but he's had game
Speaker 1: management difficulties, some play calling, questionable things, had the tough
Speaker 1: breakup of golf. He's gotta He's like Stafford, he's got
Speaker 1: to win the winning In two weeks two did he
Speaker 1: fall on his sword with a Jared Goff situation, because
Speaker 1: I don't know if I heard him. Oh no, not
Speaker 1: not Darley. We kind of polished the sword for it.
Speaker 1: I thought they handled that terribly. I thought they really
Speaker 1: Jared Goff was took such accountability and was such a
Speaker 1: stand up guy, and they just threw him under the
Speaker 1: bus repeatedly. I thought that they had on that port
Speaker 1: very poorly, and they've never really acknowledged that. And that's
Speaker 1: and then so that's part of the part of his
Speaker 1: past and then getting McVey. We've got to win a championship.
Speaker 1: Oh good stuff, Bill, Thanks as always, we appreciate your time. Thanks,
Speaker 1: this is great. See that's Bill Plashki. How many times
Speaker 1: columnists around the Horn contributor. Yeah, Sean McVeigh. You you
Speaker 1: know when after that Super Bowl he did admit it
Speaker 1: was like I got out coach. I think he was
Speaker 1: in awe of Bill Belichick. It was just weird, like
Speaker 1: I'm on the same stage with Bill Belichick, and then
Speaker 1: you know, Belichick is not there to acknowledge you in
Speaker 1: Doorshoe anything. I'm here to win, couldn't care less. Bill
Speaker 1: might not even known who the coach was on the
Speaker 1: other side. The way he is. I don't know his
Speaker 1: name is. Yeah, Paul you yeah, you with a nice hair. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think like you'd be great to do like
Speaker 1: a funnier die with Cooper Cup putting him, put him
Speaker 1: in a T shirt, jeans and a baseball hat, having
Speaker 1: at a gas station and just see if people recognize him.
Speaker 1: But he's probably what six one pounds, very normal looking guy.
Speaker 1: He was walking down by. I don't even think he
Speaker 1: got to put a baseball hat on him, but put
Speaker 1: him in his uniform. I think guy with eye black.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't he plays. It's weird you play a
Speaker 1: position like that where we expect you to bring it
Speaker 1: be at a be about yourself, bring the attention to yourself,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't. He will just make a catch and
Speaker 1: that's it. Uh. It seems like he's a little taller.
Speaker 1: Yeah then I mean, yeah, he's a physical receiver. We
Speaker 1: always try to make white wide receiver shorter like Edelman. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a habit. The first time I saw
Speaker 1: Edelman a person, he's a small person like Aedlman's not
Speaker 1: even he can't be even five eleven. But he's solid.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh, I wouldn't mess with him. Now he's
Speaker 1: he's a he's a solid little receiver like Amon Dola,
Speaker 1: feels a little bit uh less sturdy. Did we accidentally
Speaker 1: work into white Cooper Cup? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Steve Large
Speaker 1: at least that was a yes, Marvin. All those guys
Speaker 1: are scrappy. Yeah, but you're not allowed to say that.
Speaker 1: We can say that all those guys are scrappy. Sorry
Speaker 1: about that guy. They're probably coach his sons. You know,
Speaker 1: we have these code words for white wide receivers. He's gritty,
Speaker 1: possession guy, scrappy, first one to arrive, last one. I
Speaker 1: always love that because you don't even have to know
Speaker 1: who somebody's talking about. But when they say he's got
Speaker 1: a high high I Q he got a really high
Speaker 1: high motor. Like no, no black players have a high motor, right,
Speaker 1: apparently not white guys. We got high motors because we
Speaker 1: have to. That's that's the way we play. You gotta
Speaker 1: have a high motor. Yeah, and he can't be fast.
Speaker 1: He's got to be fast unexpectively deceptively more quick than fast.
Speaker 1: But no quick twitch doesn't have any quick twitch. But
Speaker 1: you watch Cooper Cup, and I still go back to
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice from Jerry ran a four six forty, but
Speaker 1: Jerry Ever seemed like you could catch him. He had
Speaker 1: a grace to him. Lance Alworth was one of my
Speaker 1: favorite wide receivers, Bambi. He had this grace about him,
Speaker 1: Like there's certain wide receivers that you know they run
Speaker 1: with power or you know everything about them. It feels
Speaker 1: like it's. Odell Beckham had that grace to him when
Speaker 1: he first came into the league, that ability to just
Speaker 1: make it look effortless. But if you're looking at Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham's career recovery, it's been pretty incredible. I mean, the
Speaker 1: Brown's got to be watching this, Giants watching this. I
Speaker 1: couldn't help but think of the Packers, because the Packers
Speaker 1: could assigned him and if you could get him for
Speaker 1: that amount of money or make it incentive driven, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I thought that Rogers would push more for it.
Speaker 1: But if you look back two and a half months,
Speaker 1: three months ago in October, and this was a house
Speaker 1: and I didn't think that he was the right player
Speaker 1: for Baker Mayfield, in large part because it felt like
Speaker 1: he could say to Baker, hey, I'm open all the time,
Speaker 1: and Baker probably wanting to be his friend and develop
Speaker 1: that relationship, sort of acquiesced to him. And people remember
Speaker 1: that first game without Odell Beckham and we're like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: Baker doesn't need OBJ. And then you're like, no, Baker
Speaker 1: probably needs OBJ. But having an established quarterback I think
Speaker 1: helps immensely because ob J and you know, you're not
Speaker 1: the number one receiver on your team, like you know it,
Speaker 1: you see it. It's not one of those Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: just as good as he is. And he probably thought
Speaker 1: I'm just as good as Jarvis Landry in Cleveland. He
Speaker 1: knows it's Cooper Cup. Then what do you need me
Speaker 1: to do? And he's done that. To his credit, he's
Speaker 1: done that. Not the biggest fan, but you know when
Speaker 1: he plays and plays at a high level, that's elite stuff.
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Speaker 1: for phone calls. What we learn fund the results of
Speaker 1: the poll question this day in sports history. No school
Speaker 1: on Super Bowl Monday, Cincinnati Public Schools taking the day off.
Speaker 1: Now I like it because either way, you know, you're
Speaker 1: either going to be excited celebrating or you're going to
Speaker 1: be devastated and you don't want to go to school.
Speaker 1: Either way, I understand it. But I guess they put
Speaker 1: out Was this a tweet that they put out? Paul
Speaker 1: Yes from the Cincinnati Public Schools official Twitter? I guess
Speaker 1: there was a grammatical error. Oh is that right? The yeah?
Speaker 1: In honor of the Bengals first Super Bowl appearance since
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, but then they had the apostrophe on Bengals.
Speaker 1: Was that the problem here? It's supposed to go after
Speaker 1: the s and they had it before the sh Bengals
Speaker 1: is already plural or plurally. Oh okay, this is kind
Speaker 1: of mcleven's wheelhouse here. Yeah, that'll give you an idea
Speaker 1: that I didn't realize that it was wrong. And you're
Speaker 1: a Cincinnai public school kid, right, yes, I am. Any
Speaker 1: chance they posted that to test the children to see
Speaker 1: if you notice the grammaclair, I don't know. It feels
Speaker 1: like you should go to school on Monday if you're
Speaker 1: not aware of that. Yeah, Pol's Cincinnati Eastern time zone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so the super Bowl goes to you know, that's
Speaker 1: pretty cool for like six seven eight year old kids
Speaker 1: can step to the end of the game. Several other
Speaker 1: tri state superintendents have heard the cries as well, let's see,
Speaker 1: including Mason City School Superintendent Jonathan Cooper that's where I went.
Speaker 1: I went to school, responded to a few requests for
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Monday off. I guess there's schools in Kentucky
Speaker 1: that are asking for this. They want to make sure
Speaker 1: that it could be the Super Bowl flu. But that's
Speaker 1: what's happening in Cincinnati. Win or lose. Yeah, pol If
Speaker 1: I'm the superintendent of the Cleveland School District, I have
Speaker 1: school on Sunday. We're gonna be in school on that day.
Speaker 1: Nights night school. We don't watch a game. A couple
Speaker 1: of phone calls in here, Robin Key, West Florida. Hi,
Speaker 1: Rob would sign your mind. Hey, but the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: I'm a fan, and as Harball, here's the great thing.
Speaker 1: It's a wonderful ride. But after he leaves, the hangovers off. Okay,
Speaker 1: And as a Marvin I called because I saw Marvin
Speaker 1: there supporting the color. So that's my comment today about
Speaker 1: Jim Marball. You want to as your coach, but afterwards
Speaker 1: it's awful, all right, Well, thank you Rob. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he had problems with Trent ball Key, but then he's
Speaker 1: not the only coach who said problems with Trent who's
Speaker 1: now with Jacksonville Sumo in Missouri. Hey, the reason the
Speaker 1: Bengals won the game is because Andy Reid didn't have
Speaker 1: a plan. There was no plan for if they started
Speaker 1: coming back, if they made adjustments, if anything happened. The
Speaker 1: whole Bengals team offense and defense or just as cool
Speaker 1: as Joe Burrow. But you look on the other side,
Speaker 1: Tyrn Matthew when they started catching up, he's throwing, he's
Speaker 1: yelling at his guys on defense, they were not as cool.
Speaker 1: And certainly Patrick Mahomes was in a school so that
Speaker 1: but having a plan in your back pocket, knowing you
Speaker 1: can make the adjustment, makes everybody feel better. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just shocked that Andy Reid didn't have a CounterPunch like
Speaker 1: slow the game down, run the ball, run the clock,
Speaker 1: and you could you could sense that the Bengals were
Speaker 1: gaining confidence. It almost felt like every drive or every
Speaker 1: other drive that they were gaining confidence. And then that
Speaker 1: defense was going huh okay, got a spy, seven defensive backs,
Speaker 1: three guys rushing, and because when you're watching, you're going, God,
Speaker 1: you can't give Mahomes that much time. Well, apparently you can,
Speaker 1: because I think he was confused. It wasn't that he
Speaker 1: had all the time. It was just he was confused
Speaker 1: and having all that time. Casey la hey, case what's
Speaker 1: on your mind today? Yo? Was krack Elec and GP.
Speaker 1: But you know, it was it interesting on that game
Speaker 1: that the actual the Kansas City Chiefs actually outran the
Speaker 1: Bengals one thirty nine to one sixteen, but it was
Speaker 1: at the wrong time of the game that they did that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you talked about Cooper Cup. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you you have Plashy on great Flashy's old
Speaker 1: school great to hear Plashky. But Cooper Cup just runs
Speaker 1: the absolute most precisional routes maybe I've ever seen. He
Speaker 1: has no wasted movement. You know, he inside his point
Speaker 1: to the football. That's why he's open, because he's not
Speaker 1: really that open. But the difference between golf and and
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is Stafford puts that ball where Cup can
Speaker 1: catch it, and that's why he gets the yak. Golf
Speaker 1: balls were sometime a little behind, a little late. You
Speaker 1: still make the catch, but you don't get all the
Speaker 1: extra yards. In my opinion, Cooper Cup could be the
Speaker 1: envy of the entire league with what he's done. Is
Speaker 1: you forget the postseason but regular seasons. And the Rams
Speaker 1: do have to win this game, and they have to
Speaker 1: finish because they've had a problem finishing during mcvay's run,
Speaker 1: so they got to finish this off. It's unacceptable that
Speaker 1: they lose to the Bengals, A thank you, Casey. Don't
Speaker 1: fall into this trap like Kansas City did. These aren't
Speaker 1: the same old Bengals. I just don't. You can't get
Speaker 1: to this point and underestimate somebody. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that Sean McVay or Matthew Stafford's going to but I
Speaker 1: would go the opposite, like, take him seriously, that's all
Speaker 1: because if not, then you're gonna look up and go, wait,
Speaker 1: they're still in the game or they're leading, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, momentum is changed. But I would
Speaker 1: imagine that Sean McVay is going to say and repeat
Speaker 1: over and over, guys, do not take them lightly. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: I just saw this with Tom Brady retire today. His
Speaker 1: last touchdown pass was to Mike Evans. I think they
Speaker 1: cut the game against the Rams. Guess where that ball
Speaker 1: is from Tom Brady's final career touchdown pass in somebody's hands.
Speaker 1: That's right, fan, Mike Evans threw it into the state.
Speaker 1: Yes he did that, didn't He almost yes, And they
Speaker 1: had to tell him no, no, don't, don't throw it
Speaker 1: into the stands. Also, when he the last touchdown, they
Speaker 1: scored was the handoff to Fournette. Fournette threw that ball
Speaker 1: into the stands as well. Yeah, I wonder what that boy,
Speaker 1: that football is going to be worked a little bit,
Speaker 1: a little bit of coin. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: big coin, maybe bitcoin. Did you see where it's somebody
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to buy or bid on Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown's glove that he threw into the stands at the
Speaker 1: Jets game. Why would someone want? They're auctioning off the
Speaker 1: glove during his MetLife tantrum. I don't know people bid
Speaker 1: on Michael Jackson's one glove actually compared to those two.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they were both meaningless gloves. Michael Jackson's glove. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's go around the room. That final results of the
Speaker 1: poll question who's the best available head coaching candidate Brian
Speaker 1: Floor is thirty four percent, Jim Harboard twenty one, Eric
Speaker 1: the Enemy twenty and then Byron Leftwich fourteen percent. This
Speaker 1: day in sports history, Paulie dan jes, when you think
Speaker 1: we have enough Tom Brady coverage? In twenty fifteen, Tom
Speaker 1: Brady set the Super Bowl record with thirty seven completions.
Speaker 1: He also increased his career Super Bowl touchdown record to
Speaker 1: thirteen passes, and he's added a lot more since then.
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety five, John Stockton the Jazz became the NBA's
Speaker 1: all time career assist leader with nine two assists. By
Speaker 1: the way, you know what to happened on this date
Speaker 1: two thousand and four wardrobe malfunction. Oh yeah, yeah, halftime show.
Speaker 1: I remember we were we had to slow down the video.
Speaker 1: So I was at the ESPN compound and somebody's like,
Speaker 1: justin Chimberlake just ripped off Jennet Jackson's top and I go, yes, top,
Speaker 1: and then they had to slow it down frame by frame.
Speaker 1: We're like zapruder film here. What did you What did
Speaker 1: you learn today, miss Jackson? If you're thought hipster looking
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