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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 3: Friday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 3: kicks off right now. I cannot believe it is December,

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Speaker 3: but here we are some big things to talk to

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Speaker 3: you about today. The Red state Blue state throwdown last night,

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Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis versus Gavin Newsom. Big props, high five, and

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Speaker 3: kudos to Sean Hannity for pulling it all together there

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Speaker 3: on Fox and getting these two guys together. I watched

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Speaker 3: the whole hour and a half of it. I thought

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Speaker 3: it was generally interesting. Clay and I are going to

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Speaker 3: break down both the substance of that exchange and then

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Speaker 3: some of the policy fights and disagreements that came from

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Speaker 3: it over the course of this hour with all of you.

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Speaker 2: Just also some news.

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Speaker 3: Justice Santa Day O'Connor passed away ninety three years old,

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Speaker 3: passed away today, So there's that first woman on the

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court. And we also have George Santos is now

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Speaker 3: a former Republican member of Congress, and I have some

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Speaker 3: slightly uh well, we'll see different sense of this, different

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Speaker 3: analysis on this than some people I think might have

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Speaker 3: based on the realities of what this means politically, the

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Speaker 3: precedent that it sets. But Clay, let's start if we can.

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Speaker 3: If we can, let's begin here with the biggest takeaways

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Speaker 3: from last night's debate, which are for me, Ronda Santis.

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Speaker 3: I'll start with this one. I thought Ronda Santis overperformed

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Speaker 3: relative to expectations based on what I've seen from him

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Speaker 3: and other debates. I think Gavin Newsome underperformed because he

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Speaker 3: didn't even manage to be fun evil Keanu. He kind

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Speaker 3: of turned into a slimy, disingenuous and kind of nasty

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Speaker 3: lib politician. So I mean, for me, it was a

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Speaker 3: big win for DeSantis just in terms of what it was.

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Speaker 3: Will it move the needle for eye or anything, I

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Speaker 3: think probably not. But what we saw was Ron de Santis,

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Speaker 3: he is even his fellow Republicans on a debate stage,

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Speaker 3: and Gavin Newsom really with a very weak defense of

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Speaker 3: what he has done in his state.

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Speaker 4: I thought that Ron DeSantis slaughtered Gavin Newsom, and earlier

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Speaker 4: this week full disclosure, I thought I was wrong. I

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Speaker 4: thought Gavin Newsom would be very likable. I thought he

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Speaker 4: would come across as intelligent. I thought he would filibuster

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Speaker 4: the attacks. Remember, the facts are all on Ron DeSantis's side.

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Speaker 4: He has done a better job as governor of Florida

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Speaker 4: than Gavin Newsom has of California. And I thought from

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Speaker 4: the opening moment, DeSantis just massacred him. And I don't

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Speaker 4: know if you've seen this, Buck And by the way,

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Speaker 4: I'm curious to hear from our listeners out there eight

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Speaker 4: hundred and two eight two two eight eight two, UH,

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Speaker 4: if they want to call in and be able to

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Speaker 4: react to what they saw.

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Speaker 2: But I thought.

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Speaker 4: DeSantis came out and immediately put Gavin Newsom on his

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Speaker 4: back foot with UH, with this line, if we play

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Speaker 4: cut six. This happened in like the first five minutes

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Speaker 4: fact that Gavin Newsom's own father in law had left

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Speaker 4: California for Florida. Listen to cut six, And I thought

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Speaker 4: this basically epitomized the entirety of what the debate went

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Speaker 4: went and sounded like for both men.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 5: So I was talking to a fella who had made

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Speaker 5: me that Florida is much better govern safer, better budget,

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Speaker 5: lower taxes, all this stuff, and he's really happy with

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Speaker 5: the quality of life. And then he paused and he said, oh,

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Speaker 5: by the way, I'm Gavin Newsom's father in law. So

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Speaker 5: we do count Gavin's in laws as some of the

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Speaker 5: people that have fled California and come to the state

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Speaker 2: And so from that moment, Buck, I just I.

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Speaker 4: Didn't really think that there was any kind of reaction

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Speaker 4: I thought that Sean Hannity did a really good job

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Speaker 4: that Gavin Newsom wasn't able to filibuster and respond very well. Well,

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Speaker 4: you know, Gavin Newsom, when he was presented with things

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Speaker 4: a second, are you saying that the CDC data on

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Speaker 3: Being dishonest in the way that he did it intentionally.

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Speaker 3: So that creates a problem for the debate. I mean,

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Speaker 3: for me, Gavin Newsom is addicted to misdirection and lies

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Speaker 2: That's really his skill set.

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Speaker 3: And I think he started to become a little bit

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Speaker 3: what he tries to do is and this we called

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Speaker 3: an advance. I said this was going to happen. This

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Speaker 3: absolutely did happen. He goes, well, California has the fifth

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Speaker 3: great stuff. Yeah, no one's saying that California is in

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Speaker 3: doing and what are the effects and doing in recent years?

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Speaker 3: Or are the effects and what has Florida's government been

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: So, because as I said, yes, it takes a long

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Speaker 3: California is a multi year process. You know what we

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Speaker 3: saw this claim in New York City when de Blasio

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Speaker 3: kept saying, well, the trend is in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 3: To Blasio, the trends and by the time he finished

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Speaker 3: Same thing's true with California. You know, you can't tell

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Speaker 3: me what you inherit. You know, don't tell me that

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Speaker 3: compared to Florida. And you know, I think that this

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Speaker 2: No, I agree.

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Speaker 4: Look, three other things that particularly I thought stood out

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Speaker 2: I thought that was great.

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Speaker 4: I thought the graphic language in books, where DeSantis pulled

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Speaker 4: And the other thing I would say was for those

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Speaker 4: keep going. Gavin Newsom said he would keep going. Politico

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Speaker 4: During that commercial break, Gavin Newsom's wife came out and said, no,

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 4: I thought Gavin Newsom seemed unprepared. I thought from a

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Speaker 4: a bad job. Because so many in the media exists

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Speaker 4: I thought, as a result, he was not prepared to

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Speaker 3: I want to get back into this. We'll talk about

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Speaker 3: a lot of the specifics here, including on crime, immigration,

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Speaker 3: We'll dive into all that this hour. We want to

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Speaker 3: I also do want to share my sense to the

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Speaker 3: Santos thing. But Clay, you know you're up in New

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Speaker 3: York City right now, still my home, It'll always be

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Speaker 3: you to tell everybody about it. Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: we'll take your calls when we come back. Reacting to

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Speaker 2: Buck, I was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton voices of sanity an insane World,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to.

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Speaker 2: Clay and we're gonna get some of your calls.

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Speaker 3: All the lines are lit, more calls will be taken

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Speaker 3: And I was just with my one of my brothers

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Speaker 3: x dot com. All right, Clay, you pick first, sir.

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Speaker 4: Who do who do we go to? Yeah, let's go

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Speaker 4: Thank you for the call, Jesse. We got Brian here

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Speaker 6: The poop man?

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Speaker 7: You love that that was the greatest thing I've ever

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Speaker 3: Well, Cauld, I say that there should be no there

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Speaker 3: You could have an app to show where it is,

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Speaker 2: Clay, It's madness.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and look, there's now a dispute according to Politico.

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Speaker 3: So that was for me a good highlight of it.

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Speaker 5: This is a map of San Francisco. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: And you see how almost the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Then they cleaned up the streets.

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Speaker 5: They lined the streets with Chinese flags. They didn't put

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Speaker 2: They cleaned everything up.

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Speaker 5: So they're willing to do it for a communist dictator,

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Speaker 3: Pacis one of the more memorable shots from Governor Rohn

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Speaker 3: And the answer goes to the heart of this whole debate,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and here's here's something I'm gonna give credit to

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Speaker 4: I obviously think Gavin Newsom is a good spokesperson for

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Speaker 4: There is no way on earth that you're letting Joe

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Speaker 2: What was I right about? Though? I was all excited,

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Speaker 4: If if Biden is the nominee, I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: They couldn't even allow it.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that because I have been saying this for

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Speaker 3: this is they're just gonna try to run the twenty

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty campaign all over again, which is kind

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Speaker 3: of Biden in the basement. Let the machinery do the talking,

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Speaker 3: let the people around him. Now, I know you think

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Speaker 3: that they're going to try to replace it with somebody.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I would say from last night, Gavin Newsham.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that Gavin Neusam does better. I've never

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Speaker 3: seen polls that would look at this. I don't think

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Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom does better than Kamala Harris does in Georgia.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Gavin Newsom does better than Kamala Harris

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Speaker 3: does in Nevada. You know, I think in a lot

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Speaker 3: of tight states, Newsom is a huge LIB and there's

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Speaker 3: really no reason to believe that I think he would

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Speaker 3: bring over independent voters.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think he's some And keep.

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Speaker 3: In mind, you'd have to push aside Kamala, which looks

453
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Speaker 3: bad for Gavin new pushing aside Kamala for you know,

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Speaker 3: and I get all the emails.

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Speaker 2: For you know, Michelle Obama or for an RFK junior

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Speaker 2: unity ticket or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you could make that, make that case, and just

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Speaker 3: in terms of the raw politics of it, pushing aside

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Speaker 3: Kamala for Gavin Newsom, nah, without him having to even

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Speaker 3: win a primary, without him even being the choice of

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Speaker 3: the Democrats, No, no way, no chance.

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Speaker 4: I think it was a bad night for Gavin Newsom

463
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Speaker 4: to make the argument that he's way better than Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: And here let me build on the Joe Biden argument

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Speaker 4: of not getting on the stage. The one thing I

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Speaker 4: would say to Trump as we get ready, what next

467
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Speaker 4: week is Tuscoloosa, Alabama?

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Speaker 2: And then I don't know what happens after that.

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Speaker 4: I do think getting on a stage at some point

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Speaker 4: and doing a debate if you're Trump, solely to disallow

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Speaker 4: the Democrats to say, well, you didn't show up for

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Speaker 4: the Republican debates, why do we need to show up

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Speaker 4: for the national debates. I do think that is an

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Speaker 4: argument that cuts through and might be able to be

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Speaker 4: used against Trump in a way that if he shows

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Speaker 4: up for a debate or two in the Republican process,

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Speaker 4: actually makes the argument harder to make.

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense.

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Speaker 4: Like if I were sitting out right now and I

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Speaker 4: was watching this and I'm Trump, and I'm thinking, you

481
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Speaker 4: know what, Biden's going to be a disaster on the stage.

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Speaker 4: I want him on the stage for two hours or

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Speaker 4: three hours. I think that's the argument you could make.

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Speaker 4: And you know, Buck, like the whole thing with watching

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Speaker 4: this thing on video. I bet the DeSantis camp right now,

486
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Speaker 4: I bet they got different clips and they're just playing

487
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Speaker 4: them over and over again like you do when you

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Speaker 4: have a play in a sporting event that you like,

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Speaker 4: Like I bet, and I bet they're zooming in on

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Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom's face on some of those things, like when

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Speaker 4: he dropped the line about the father in law, and

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Speaker 4: when he pulled out the poop map, and then when

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Speaker 4: he brought out like the graphic book discussion. By the way,

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Speaker 4: we're going to take some of your calls loaded lines

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Speaker 4: right now. Let you all react to what you saw

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Speaker 4: last night. But I want to tell you know this, Buck,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's almost holiday season and I was just

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Speaker 4: asking you, hey, what are you going to do for Christmas?

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Speaker 4: And I'm up here in New York and I was

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Speaker 4: walking down sixth Avenue and it's beautiful. There's trees up everywhere,

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Speaker 4: there are lights hung everywhere. Everybody's getting in the Christmas spirit.

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Speaker 4: The best thing you can do in the Christmas spirits

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Speaker 4: and make sure you do it today. Andy and Milwaukee,

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Speaker 4: let's get one call before we go to break and

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Speaker 4: then we'll take some more of your calls. Obviously, Wisconsin

516
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Speaker 4: is a toss up state. Andy, what did you think

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Speaker 4: of the debate last night?

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Speaker 9: Good afternoon, fellows. It confirmed for me a suspicion that

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Speaker 9: Ron DeSantis is a machine. This man is a liberal

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Speaker 9: terminator down to the end of the debate and him

521
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Speaker 9: saying I'll come back. He you put anything liberal in

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Speaker 9: front of this man, and he destroys it. Policy process,

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Speaker 9: company people, he destroys it.

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Speaker 3: And I can tell you something as I was watching

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Speaker 3: this last night, because it did feel like it was

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Speaker 3: a more energized and a slightly more ferocious decantist than

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Speaker 3: we had seen before it. And I think it's because

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Speaker 3: he's a DeSantis is a true conservative and he doesn't

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Speaker 3: despise U. Interesting it doesn't um you know, he doesn't

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Speaker 3: despise any of those other Republicans. He has tremendous respect

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Speaker 3: for Donald Trump. He is he has respect or even

532
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Speaker 3: the you know, for the other Republican candidates on that stage.

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Speaker 3: He views them as all on the same team. So

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Speaker 3: I think he doesn't have the same kind of, like

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Speaker 3: I said, ferociousness with Gavin Newsom.

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Speaker 2: He's like, this guy is.

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Speaker 3: A slimy, lying comie and I'm gonna light him up,

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Speaker 3: and that's what he did.

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Speaker 4: I also think DeSantis benefits from fewer people on the stage.

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Speaker 4: I think you're right about that. I think in general,

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Speaker 4: you get a better debate. And I thought Sean Hannity

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Speaker 4: did a good job. I think in general, you get

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Speaker 4: a better debate when there are fewer people on stage.

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Speaker 4: I said, last call, before we get a break, let

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Speaker 4: me take one more. Tracy, also in Wisconsin, what did

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Speaker 4: you think of the debate last night?

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: So the one thing, and I've heard this happen a

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Speaker 10: few times in different situations, is when they bring up

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Speaker 10: the immigration mess and the border mess. Like Gavin Newsom said, well,

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Speaker 10: the Democrats wanted to pass policies and it's the Republicans

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Speaker 10: holding back. And I didn't really hear the Santas say why.

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Speaker 10: I know, like what I've heard is that there's other

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Speaker 10: things thrown in it that's nonsense and wasteful. And I

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Speaker 10: didn't hear the Santus come back and say that. And

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Speaker 10: I've heard it not just in the debate, but in

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Speaker 10: other times. It's the Republican's fault because they won't help

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Speaker 10: pass policies to help at the border. But then the

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Speaker 10: Republicans need to come back and say, well, why aren't

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Speaker 10: they passing that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's interesting, Buck, I'm cure. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for the call. Tracy.

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Speaker 4: My fifteen year old who I had watched the debate,

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Speaker 4: said that he was willing to buy into that argument

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Speaker 4: from Gavin Newsom because it wasn't really addressed and I

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Speaker 4: think Republicans can do a better job than it makes

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Speaker 4: you get into weeds. Right, we've talked about this, You've

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Speaker 4: been talking about it quite a lot, where really it's

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Speaker 4: just Democrats want to keep policies the same. They don't

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Speaker 4: want to erase the asylum issue, which is really what's

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Speaker 4: driving so many people.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely that's the case. So we'll come back.

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Speaker 3: We'll take more of your calls here in a second

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Speaker 3: eight hundred and two eighty two two eight a two.

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Speaker 3: What were your responses last night? Also top of the

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Speaker 3: next hour, I think the seventh ever expulsion from Congress

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Speaker 3: has just occurred. A Republican George Santos, he is out.

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Speaker 3: What do we think of this vote? What are Republicans doing?

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Speaker 3: We'll make sense of that coming up. Stick around.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do

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Speaker 1: a lot of it with the Sunday Hang Join Clay

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Speaker 1: and Buck as they.

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Speaker 11: Laugh it up in the Klay and Buck podcast beat

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Speaker 11: on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 11: A lot of you wanted to were reacting to Gavin

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Speaker 11: Newso verses Ron DeSantis the red versus Blue state debate

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Speaker 11: that I thought Sean Hannity did a very good job

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Speaker 11: moderating last night. Lots of fireworks. Many of you want

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Speaker 11: to weigh in, were also in the next hour going

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Speaker 11: to talk about Santos expelled from Congress.

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Speaker 2: The sixth member. I don't want to.

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Speaker 3: I think I might have said he's a different number,

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Speaker 3: the sixth member of the House of Representatives to be expelled.

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Speaker 3: Twenty one total, stretching back to the Civil War, from

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Speaker 3: both Senate and House have been expelled to Clay and

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Speaker 3: fourteen of those were all for.

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Speaker 2: Being members of the Confederacy, I believe.

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Speaker 4: Which they're trying to use the Confederacy Statutes, by the way,

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Speaker 4: to tie this all in as well, to try to

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Speaker 4: get Trump kicked off of several ballots, like they tried

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Speaker 4: to get Marjorie Taylor Green kicked off in her North

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Speaker 4: Georgia congressional district. But a lot of you went a

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Speaker 4: way in with what your big takeaways were all over

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Speaker 4: the country. Right now, Debra's on the one oh one

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Speaker 4: driving down the California coast. I believe, what did you

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Speaker 4: think Debra of the performance of Gavin Newsom, your governor

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Speaker 4: last night.

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Speaker 12: Oh yeah, we refer to him as gruesome. Here. I'm

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Speaker 12: coming up over the hill looking at the Bolden Gay Bridge.

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Speaker 12: I got to tell you, the city looks beautiful from

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Speaker 12: a distance. I'll let you know how much poop and

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Speaker 12: how many all this looks like you when I get there. However,

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Speaker 12: I'm just as appalled watching him as I always am.

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Speaker 12: He never answers the questions directly. He's a flexs on

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Speaker 12: his opponent, criticizes his opponent because he can't possibly substantiate

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Speaker 12: any of the things that he says he stands for

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Speaker 12: as a native bear in California, there's a lot of

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Speaker 12: us that feel like I do. He lies about everything.

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Speaker 12: We're sitting at home watching this. Our jaws are dropping.

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Speaker 12: How can you possibly stand there and say that things

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Speaker 12: are better and he's done all these good things? And taxes,

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Speaker 12: our taxes are out of control. We don't get anything

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Speaker 12: for our money. And I have to tell you, I

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Speaker 12: travel a lot, and everywhere I go I tell people,

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Speaker 12: they always say, oh God, you're from California, how is it?

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Speaker 12: I say, Well, be careful, he's coming for your stay too.

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Speaker 12: So be careful how you vote, because I do believe

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Speaker 12: he's going to try to parachute in make an appearance.

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Speaker 12: Why else would he be entertaining his best friend in China.

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Speaker 12: I mean, it was amazing how beautiful the city looks.

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Speaker 12: Now it's back to, you know, looking awful again.

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Speaker 2: San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's not just you know we talked about

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Speaker 3: thank you, thank you so much for calling in and

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Speaker 3: drive safely San Francisco. With the poop map and all

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Speaker 3: the other stuff that we've been talking about. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think you could argue that as a physical city,

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Speaker 3: San Francisco maybe the most beautiful city in America. You

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Speaker 3: could make that case. I'm just based on the geographic

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Speaker 3: location of it everything else. I'm not talking about what

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Speaker 3: it's like downtown. I just mean as a physical infrastructure

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Speaker 3: and geographic location, San France is an amazingly beautiful city.

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Speaker 3: And that that's the one that they've ruined through stupid

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Speaker 3: policies really hammers at home. I think Portland's a beautiful city. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was in Portland ten years ago. We were talking

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Speaker 3: to that caller about it, and I remember thinking, Wow,

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Speaker 3: this is really cool place. But already you know there

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Speaker 3: were some encampments downtown. You could see that it was

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Speaker 3: trending in the wrong direction. And it's gone way far too,

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Speaker 3: way too left.

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Speaker 4: Buck La, San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle are among the

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Speaker 4: most beauty to full cities anywhere in the world. I

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Speaker 4: mean when you really think just natural geographic settings.

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Speaker 2: It was funny.

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Speaker 4: You remember when NewsOne was like, don't say something bad

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Speaker 4: about La Now. I thought that was one of the

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Speaker 4: funniest parts of the of the whole debate, like where

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Speaker 4: he suddenly got bristly about about that commentary. But leave

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Speaker 4: aside the governance. If you just visit those cities and

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Speaker 4: you look at their natural beauty, those are four of

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Speaker 4: the most incredible cities, not just in the United States

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Speaker 4: but in the world when it comes to their physical settings.

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Speaker 3: Oh, the Pacific Northwest is amazing, and I it's it's

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Speaker 3: sad that some of the great cities up of the

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Speaker 3: Pacific Northwest have been ceded to the Communists, because these

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Speaker 3: should be places where everyone's you know, going to visit

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Speaker 3: all the time, right, I mean we you know you

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Speaker 3: live in Nashville area, Clay people are going to Nashville

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Speaker 3: for their birthday parties for the bachelorette parties all the time.

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Speaker 3: Same thing with Charleston, South Carolina. I never hear anyone

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Speaker 3: be like, Hey, I'm gonna go do my bachelorette in

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Speaker 3: Seattle or in Port And I know that sounds weird,

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Speaker 3: but they're great food cities. They're beautiful, like they should

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Speaker 3: be destinations where people want to show up all the time.

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Speaker 2: But they are problems, yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: Adrian, also in California, what did you think of the performance?

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Speaker 4: You're a native Californian, You've been dealing with Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 4: for a long time. What did you What was your

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Speaker 4: impressions of the debate?

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Speaker 8: Hi, I'm seventy five years old, native California, and actually

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Speaker 8: I almost turned it off, not because of DeSantis, but

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Speaker 8: because of Newsom's presentation. I'm a person who kind of

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Speaker 8: tends to watch body language, and actually I think he

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Speaker 8: tries to impress the audience not by what he's saying,

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Speaker 8: but by his demeanor, trying to charm people, and I

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Speaker 8: found it very discussed. You know, almost turned it off

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Speaker 8: after the first response to Hannanyw's question, which you never

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Speaker 8: really got around to answering, but at one point when

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Speaker 8: DeSantis had brought up the book that Newson was trying

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Speaker 8: to mandate in these schools. I wish DeSantis had brought

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Speaker 8: up a point where Newson was going to withhold funds

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Speaker 8: to one of the school districts if they didn't carry

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Speaker 8: the books that he was mandating. Eventually, the school district

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Speaker 8: came in and I think they accepted to carry the books.

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Speaker 8: But I don't know how Newsom could stand there and

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Speaker 8: lie about everything when the facts are in front of him,

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Speaker 8: and yet he could still lie. And that's the way

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Speaker 8: I saw it. I just think he tries to charm people,

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Speaker 8: and to me, that's very disgusting.

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Speaker 3: And it got so bad for Gavin Newsom last night, Clay.

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Speaker 3: At one point, I thought maybe he was just going

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Speaker 3: to unbutton the shirt two or three more buttons. You know,

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Speaker 3: I've ruined, I've ruined California. But look at all this

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Speaker 3: man flush.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you thought maybe he was gonna flash and nipple,

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Speaker 4: just distract from everybody and show them how good looking

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Speaker 4: it is shirtless.

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Speaker 2: That was I do think we.

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Speaker 4: Haven't mentioned it yet, and we'll take more of your

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Speaker 4: calls throughout the course of the show.

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Speaker 2: But I thought when.

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Speaker 4: Ron DeSantis hit Newsome on. You say you care about parents' rights,

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Speaker 4: but if somebody goes to the state of California you

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Speaker 4: allow them to get, if they're underage, treatment to change

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Speaker 4: their gender. That's the very essence of being anti parents' rights, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's one thing if you're over eighteen and

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Speaker 4: you make that decision, But for someone to flee to

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Speaker 4: California to start to get drugs to change their gender,

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Speaker 4: and that's permissible under California law, that's monstrous in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: So we're down a Republican member of Congress, George Santos,

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Speaker 3: third vote, he's out.

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Speaker 2: This is a history making moment.

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Speaker 3: A precedent has been set, I would say, a troubling one.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about this. We come back,