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Speaker 2: a few headlines here, Mavericks at the Lakers, and the
Speaker 2: Lakers got the win, but the Lakers did not cover.
Speaker 2: The line was nine and nine. That's all I cared about.
Speaker 2: It was weird. I wanted to know, like, how inspired
Speaker 2: were the Lakers going to be and the Mavericks going
Speaker 2: to LA without Anthony Davis in uniform, and what was
Speaker 2: Luca going to do? So Luca didn't have a great
Speaker 2: night shooting, but you know he filled up every other category,
Speaker 2: had a triple double there. They win one O seven
Speaker 2: to ninety nine and the line was nine and a half.
Speaker 2: I just want to see the rest of the season,
Speaker 2: how much defense they'll play. It's weird to say when
Speaker 2: you have two of the greatest players with Luca and Lebron,
Speaker 2: they're going to mesh. They're going to work. They're going
Speaker 2: to work because Lebron will make this work. He's too talented,
Speaker 2: too smart to not make this work. But watching last
Speaker 2: night Luca deferred, you know you wasn't he didn't have
Speaker 2: a shot, and he wasn't hitting threes. But you know
Speaker 2: you have a triple double there, and you forget just
Speaker 2: how great a passer he is. Lebron is an all
Speaker 2: time great passer, but Luca is really good. It's just
Speaker 2: when you're scoring thirty three a game, you may not throw,
Speaker 2: you know, passes to your teammates. You know, as Jordan
Speaker 2: once said, why would I throw it to you when
Speaker 2: I have a better chance of making the shot? I mean,
Speaker 2: he actually did say that about his teammates. Why would
Speaker 2: I throw it to a wide open Judd Bushler when
Speaker 2: I might be double teamed. I like my chances better.
Speaker 2: But you know his fun last night. At one point,
Speaker 2: Luca mean mugs the Mavericks bench, which I don't understand
Speaker 2: unless they were chirping at him, but they were all
Speaker 2: lovey dovey pre game, and I'm, I mean, you want
Speaker 2: to mean mug, then do that when you go to
Speaker 2: Dallas in April, and then look for the GM Nico Harrison.
Speaker 2: If I'm Luca, I look for him and I give
Speaker 2: him a handshake and say thank you, thank you. You
Speaker 2: put me in one of the basketball capitals of the world,
Speaker 2: my brand. I got a chance to be the face
Speaker 2: of this franchise. It's fun. It's la thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: I mean, Dallas is great and maybe that's his lifestyle,
Speaker 2: but I would be like, thank you. But last night
Speaker 2: it was fun. It was fun to watch just you know,
Speaker 2: sort of the I guess the body language going on.
Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin Nico Harrison was there last night, so maybe
Speaker 3: he was looking in the direction where Nico man have
Speaker 3: been sitting. Okay, so I did see him at the
Speaker 3: game last night. I don't know why he would be there,
Speaker 3: but hey.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give him credit to be, you know,
Speaker 2: front and center, like, Okay, yeah, we made this deal
Speaker 2: and I'm going to sit right here. But if if
Speaker 2: Luca is singling out the ga and mean mugging, I
Speaker 2: don't think you need to, like, let me remind you
Speaker 2: of how great I am. I don't know if Luca
Speaker 2: needs to do that. Now, you want to do that
Speaker 2: when you go to Dallas. I get that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Pauline, I'm not gonna go too much credit to
Speaker 4: Nico Harrison. He probably doesn't want to go to home
Speaker 4: games for a while. And he's like, I'm going to
Speaker 4: hit the road a little bit. I want to get
Speaker 4: away from the home fans. They don't love me right now.
Speaker 2: NFL Combine going on this week and yesterday coaches in
Speaker 2: GMS they had to answer questions, well, they had to
Speaker 2: answer them in the best way they could answer them
Speaker 2: without really answering them. And you don't want We're so
Speaker 2: gullible as this sports society. We're just jones and for anything. Hey,
Speaker 2: these coaches are going to talk about their their draft,
Speaker 2: what they're going to do in the draft without really
Speaker 2: telling you what they're going to do in the draft.
Speaker 2: Are they gonna talk about the uh tush push without
Speaker 2: really saying too much about or maybe a player who
Speaker 2: may be on the trading block without really saying too much.
Speaker 2: But we sit there and we eat it all up,
Speaker 2: scoop it all up. It's like, oh my god, that's great.
Speaker 2: But it's one of those if you say, coming up
Speaker 2: on Sports Center, we'll sit down with Sean McDermott and
Speaker 2: he'll give his thoughts on the tush push. Then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden you have a question to Sean, you know,
Speaker 2: and he'll be like, hey, you know, it's a part
Speaker 2: of the game and whatever the league does, and be
Speaker 2: on whatever, and then you go, okay, alrighty, that was great.
Speaker 2: Like you don't even we're not even listening to the
Speaker 2: answers as much as the topic.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 2: Like I saw the topic again on Sports Center. Chador
Speaker 2: Senders not throwing at the Combine. What's it mean for
Speaker 2: his draft status? Nothing, it doesn't mean anything. He'll do
Speaker 2: a pro day at Colorado. His dad gets all this attention.
Speaker 2: The wide receivers who are there at Colorado get some
Speaker 2: national attention. Come on, the players have the power. It's okay.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm surprised when it goes the other way.
Speaker 2: Cam Ward, I wouldn't be throwing. You want to do
Speaker 2: something where you know it's a controlled environment, You have
Speaker 2: your receivers, you get some attention for some players, your
Speaker 2: coaching stet whatever. But we make it a big deal
Speaker 2: because we allow it to be a big deal. We
Speaker 2: click on these stories and it's just silly. And I
Speaker 2: told you this was going to happen with Shador Sanders.
Speaker 2: None of the first round quarterbacks last year threw at
Speaker 2: the Combine. It didn't lead Sports Center so I know
Speaker 2: we are gullible, we're easily led, but now there are
Speaker 2: times when I go, no, you're not going to get
Speaker 2: me on this one. And I spent eighteen years of
Speaker 2: my career trying to do this to you, Like, how
Speaker 2: do we get people to stay at Sports Center? I
Speaker 2: don't know, come up with a tease coming up on SportsCenter?
Speaker 2: You won't believe what Charles Barkley just did. And then
Speaker 2: he didn't do anything, you know, like I don't know,
Speaker 2: I didn't see the highlight yet. Yes.
Speaker 4: What I love about the combine is when they ask
Speaker 4: a real direct question to a GM or coach and
Speaker 4: he has to ignore it, like, I'll give you exactly
Speaker 4: you be the coach or you be the GM of
Speaker 4: the How about the Browns?
Speaker 2: Okay, Andrew Barry ye, Andrew Barry O. Yes, yes, Paulie Andrew.
Speaker 6: What's the plan with Nick Chubb?
Speaker 4: What are you guys going to do to keep him
Speaker 4: or not keep him?
Speaker 2: In the off season? Man, do I love that guy?
Speaker 2: I really do. I mean, uh, you know, when I
Speaker 2: think of a running back, I think of him and
Speaker 2: he's really special guy. And you know, we we appreciate
Speaker 2: all the great things that he did for.
Speaker 4: Us that said, what are your plans for?
Speaker 2: Wait? I thought I just said, didn't I just answer
Speaker 2: that without answering that when they say, man, I really
Speaker 2: love that guy, that guy's gone gone. Yeah, Hey, what
Speaker 2: do you think of.
Speaker 4: Man when they start prematurely thanking him for everything they've
Speaker 4: done for a franchise?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 2: How about your Sean McVay.
Speaker 7: Okay, coach, what's the situation.
Speaker 4: Right now with Matthew Stafford and your plans for his future?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, that's a great question, Paul, that really is.
Speaker 2: It's a great question, stalling, stalling, stall. I love him.
Speaker 2: I mean you cannot write the history of the Rams
Speaker 2: without Matthew Stafford. I mean hall of famer, hall of
Speaker 2: famer in every sense. Really well for what are your family? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just I love that guys real quick. What are
Speaker 2: your plans? Yeah? I mean you know, my plans are
Speaker 2: to just make sure I appreciate every day, every moment
Speaker 2: I have with Matthew Stafford, because you know what, he's
Speaker 2: a special player and uh, you know, on and off
Speaker 2: the field. Did I mention that? Yeah, And you can't
Speaker 2: write the history of the Rams. Did I mention that too? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I really love him. Yes, Todd, it's.
Speaker 8: That tell when they say did when they're talking to
Speaker 8: past tens as opposed to and what.
Speaker 5: He will be doing in the future.
Speaker 8: If you're already talking in the prediate tents, is like
Speaker 8: that means that kind of closing the chapter.
Speaker 5: On this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you give me past tense, it just feels
Speaker 2: like like Nick Chubb. Let's be honest, older got injured
Speaker 2: and maybe not affordable. See ya, that's it? Uh, what
Speaker 2: are your plans for Miles Garrett? Man? Now, if you
Speaker 2: say we're not taking phone calls, we don't want to
Speaker 2: hear from anybody, We are not trading him, we have
Speaker 2: no plans or no intentions. When you say that, that
Speaker 2: means you're open for business. They can say all the
Speaker 2: right things. This is February, late February. Let's wait till
Speaker 2: we get to April. Let's wait till we get to
Speaker 2: the draft. Teams are going to do their due diligence
Speaker 2: on all these draft picks, and then they're going to say,
Speaker 2: is that guy somebody that we can invest in as
Speaker 2: a first round pick and we don't have to pay
Speaker 2: him thirty million dollars. Miles Garrett is going to cost
Speaker 2: you that and then so and you got to give
Speaker 2: up draft picks. So I think you got to be
Speaker 2: fair to the teams in a situation like this. First
Speaker 2: of all, the GM is not going to tell you anything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what do you guys plan on doing with the number
Speaker 2: one pick? Oh, I'm glad you asked. You know what
Speaker 2: we're taking Travis Hunter? Oh? I mean we could take
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter. Hey, how about And by the way, the
Speaker 2: NFL won't let you say what you're doing with the
Speaker 2: top pick, even though you may know who you're taking.
Speaker 2: Do you plan on playing Travis Hunter at defensive back
Speaker 2: and or wide receiver? Well you can say, oh, I mean,
Speaker 2: if we take him, he's going to be a cornerback
Speaker 2: and we hope to use him as a wide receiver.
Speaker 2: But we're so hungry for football. It's only been a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks removed from the Super Bowl. We're already fixing.
Speaker 2: I need a fix. But it's still the combine and
Speaker 2: it takes up a week of our attention because there's
Speaker 2: nothing really else going on.
Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin, and that's the beauty about being a sport fan,
Speaker 3: stuff like the combine in the NFL Draft. If you're
Speaker 3: a fan of a team that's bad, you're thinking to yourself,
Speaker 3: a art, we can get better next year. So there's
Speaker 3: always hope no matter how bad your team is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So for the past couple of months, the good
Speaker 2: teams have been playing, the bad teams are just sitting
Speaker 2: there going all right, let me look at mel Kiper's
Speaker 2: latest mock draft here and see who we're getting. Because
Speaker 2: there's hope. You have hope right now in late February,
Speaker 2: you have hope. Free agency coming up in a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks, the draft coming up, you've got hope. Even
Speaker 2: off season, the schedule, you've got hope. And then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden reality sets in and it's middle of
Speaker 2: October and you go, damn, thought we were going to
Speaker 2: be good. No, you're the Jets. Yes, Paul.
Speaker 4: As a Bear fan, my season is February, March, and April.
Speaker 4: That's when I get to talk and chop it up
Speaker 4: and see what they're doing. Then it goes away.
Speaker 8: Yes, John, there's something about that fresh enthusiasm of a
Speaker 8: new head coach that doesn't have a record of any
Speaker 8: wins or losses just yet, where this is the time
Speaker 8: where you can get all excited about things until it
Speaker 8: starts going off the rail.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a honeymoon. Oh she's wonderful. Oh I love
Speaker 2: her so much. Oh we were inseparable. We can't stand
Speaker 2: to be apart from one another. Then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden season starts and then all of a sudden things
Speaker 2: start to fall apart. All right, Seaton poll question today,
Speaker 2: what are we going to start out with?
Speaker 7: Is the NFL combine still useful? Yes or no?
Speaker 2: It is because of the medicals and the interviews, And
Speaker 2: I'm going off what you know. My source says that
Speaker 2: what he gets from being in those interviews when you
Speaker 2: get the medicals, now you see how hot, you know,
Speaker 2: tall somebody is, you know how much they weigh. He
Speaker 2: doesn't get caught up in the forty, but he does
Speaker 2: get He really focuses on the medical an He focuses
Speaker 2: on the interviewing process.
Speaker 5: Are you a dog or a cat?
Speaker 2: Ye? Yes, I've asked him. I said, do you ask
Speaker 2: stupid questions like that? And he goes no, because if
Speaker 2: I ask you if you were would you rather be
Speaker 2: a dog or a cat? I don't care. I just
Speaker 2: want to know are you a football player? That's that's
Speaker 2: the most important thing.
Speaker 7: Are you a football player or a guy who plays football?
Speaker 2: Andrews for football players here. I asked Andrew luck that
Speaker 2: I asked him, and you know what, he he had
Speaker 2: a long pause because I always felt that he was
Speaker 2: a guy who was really good at football.
Speaker 4: Still pausing, still thinking, pondering, good question.
Speaker 2: DP, Yeah, man, what else do you have there? See?
Speaker 7: I think we're going to combine for our one. Well,
Speaker 7: there's another slight tweak on that, which is the NFL
Speaker 7: combine is great football filler or useless?
Speaker 2: And I still watch, well, I don't watch as much
Speaker 2: as I once did, but it's only because I kind
Speaker 2: of figured out what I need to be aware of
Speaker 2: instead of, gosh, did you see that offensive lineman from Auburn?
Speaker 2: I don't know what it means. And there's gonna be
Speaker 2: a center, there'll be a guard, and there'll be a
Speaker 2: defensive tackle where we'll look back on the draft and
Speaker 2: you go, damn, that guy became an All Pro. But
Speaker 2: we don't care about that. I mean, we should care
Speaker 2: about it, because look at what the Eagles did with
Speaker 2: a great offensive line and a great defensive line. But
Speaker 2: you know, the draft always, you know we're gonna talk
Speaker 2: about Travis Hunter, the quarterbacks, Ashton Genty, what the Cowboys do?
Speaker 2: Anybody trade up? Anybody trade down? What trades happened prior
Speaker 2: to Matthew Stafford, Kirk d Cousins, Sam Darnold. How do
Speaker 2: they affect the I mean, that's really what the presentation
Speaker 2: is going to be, at least that first that first night.
Speaker 2: Remember a couple of years ago when Chefty breathlessly was
Speaker 2: trying to tell us that, you know, Aaron Rodgers was
Speaker 2: going to be traded, and you had all of this
Speaker 2: programming about Aaron. I was like, Aaron Rodgers, He's not
Speaker 2: going to be traded. But it was one of those
Speaker 2: where he had Adam I think had heard from somebody
Speaker 2: who had some information, and therefore, all of a sudden
Speaker 2: it became ESPN's programming. All it takes is one little
Speaker 2: thing like Laramie Tunsel and changes a draft. You know,
Speaker 2: somebody's rising, somebody's falling, and if you're you know you're
Speaker 2: carrying the draft. So ESPN is looking for those stories.
Speaker 2: They don't want predictability. They want to have something where
Speaker 2: somebody goes, oh my god, mel, what's your thought? That's
Speaker 2: what they want. You don't want this to go where
Speaker 2: you go okay, and then okay, you want to the
Speaker 2: New York Jets have traded up. Yes, John, But.
Speaker 8: That's part of the problem too. When we watch the combat,
Speaker 8: we get so reactionary in the moment. Just because someone
Speaker 8: runs a fast forty we already got them going to
Speaker 8: the Hall of Fame. Or someone gets their feet tied up,
Speaker 8: or they hit a cone by accident, that means they're
Speaker 8: gonna be a bus and they have no chance of
Speaker 8: having a great NFL career. That's what's silly, because we're
Speaker 8: so fixated on every little number that that's gonna determine
Speaker 8: their future in the pros.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you, Jock, thank you.
Speaker 2: Now we can put a bow on this segment. Yes, exactly,
Speaker 2: We've just tripped over the cone.
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Speaker 6: Hello, hell everybody again, here to get my car serviced.
Speaker 6: And thought I'd stop buy and just hang out, and
Speaker 6: then I get roped into being a broadcaster with you Okay,
Speaker 6: let's do it.
Speaker 2: Well, you don't have to.
Speaker 6: I mean, I know, but you're my friend.
Speaker 5: Okay, got it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to put you in.
Speaker 6: Well I had luckily, I got the notes beforehand what
Speaker 6: they were, so I can okay, so I could be
Speaker 6: prepared and not just some you know Dunce who showed
Speaker 6: back up from the beach and said, oh yeah, I
Speaker 6: know what's going on in football.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Seton, you are the host of in or out? Okay,
Speaker 2: So what does that mean that I do right now?
Speaker 7: Okay, I got you. Okay, let's see question number one.
Speaker 7: Miles Garrett will not be a Cleveland Brown next season.
Speaker 7: Are you in or out on that?
Speaker 2: Uh? Todd?
Speaker 7: Why don't we start with you?
Speaker 8: I am in that he will not be a Cleveland Brown,
Speaker 8: New York.
Speaker 5: In that he will not.
Speaker 7: All right, Marvin, I am in in in in he'll
Speaker 7: be in Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Oh so that means you're out, You're out, You're out?
Speaker 5: Sure?
Speaker 2: Okay, Dan, I am out. I think he'll be in Cleveland.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, And Ryan, I am in. I believe.
Speaker 6: Listening to the general manager Barry the other day really
Speaker 6: talk about it adamantly about how he wants them there,
Speaker 6: the culture and everything like that. There is going to
Speaker 6: be a team that actually overreaches with picks and everything
Speaker 6: that they can possibly get back from that debacle of
Speaker 6: Deshaun Watson in some way, shape or form and start
Speaker 6: building again. So I would suspect Miles Garrett will be
Speaker 6: out of Cleveland.
Speaker 5: So I'm in on that.
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, well let's see why don't we stick
Speaker 7: with Cleveland?
Speaker 5: And there are many issues.
Speaker 7: Deshaun Watson's football career is over.
Speaker 5: Are you in or out on that? Todd In, I
Speaker 5: think he's done. Marvin In, he's out deep Pizzle In.
Speaker 6: I'm in any as well, though I do think it
Speaker 6: should be specific around being a starter.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 6: Think that someone out there may give him a shot
Speaker 6: to be a backup. That's the only thing that would
Speaker 6: I even got a chance of being a back.
Speaker 2: You know, so you weren't accused of what he was. True,
Speaker 2: you did go to jail, but he hasn't gone to
Speaker 2: jail yet.
Speaker 6: That's ironic.
Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin DP, this is in or out. Ryan Leap
Speaker 3: has given us football analysis that's not what.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's an association that that could be paralleled in
Speaker 6: a way that went Why why.
Speaker 2: Is that so? Uh? Next Seaton?
Speaker 7: All right, next question, the Tennessee Titans should trade down
Speaker 7: and get picks. Inner out, Todd.
Speaker 5: I am in on that.
Speaker 8: I think they need to go get a bunch of picks, all.
Speaker 5: Right, Marvin, I'm in they need a lot dp.
Speaker 2: Best player in the draft is right there, most talented
Speaker 2: player in Travis Hunter. Go get him and don't worry
Speaker 2: about that side.
Speaker 5: Of the field. Right.
Speaker 6: That's interesting. I'm I'm traded. I'm I'm in on the
Speaker 6: trading down, but only trading down so far to get
Speaker 6: who I think the best player in this year's draft is,
Speaker 6: and that's Abdul Carter. I think he's an edge rusher
Speaker 6: that is in the vein of Micah Parsons who can
Speaker 6: make a real difference on that defense. But you have
Speaker 6: to make sure you get him. So you go out
Speaker 6: and you dangle that first pick to somebody that is
Speaker 6: just freakishly living in Fomo and needs a quarterback or
Speaker 6: do something silly, but make sure you get Abdul Carter
Speaker 6: in the.
Speaker 5: Picks that you need.
Speaker 7: Let's see next question. I have no doubt that Shador
Speaker 7: Sanders will be a very good NFL quarterback, very good
Speaker 7: is an interesting choice of words, Todd.
Speaker 5: I am out.
Speaker 8: I am uncertain to thee how great he's gonna be.
Speaker 8: I hope he will be great, but uncertain.
Speaker 5: So out, Marvin, imy, you have.
Speaker 7: No doubt he will be a very good quarterback?
Speaker 5: Sure, imy?
Speaker 2: Okay, Dan, I'm out.
Speaker 6: I mean there is only one answer. That's out, Marvin.
Speaker 6: Come on, I mean you don't know anything.
Speaker 2: We have no way to know that.
Speaker 6: You know what if he goes to Cleveland.
Speaker 5: I was in. I thought Peyton Maney was going to
Speaker 5: be a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 6: What about me?
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sorry? What did you think of me?
Speaker 6: When I was coming out?
Speaker 2: We played when we played in or out, and I
Speaker 2: said to you, Ryan Leaf will be a very good
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback.
Speaker 6: Everybody was out on that. I think I think I
Speaker 6: think everybody was in on that. That's the reason why
Speaker 6: I went right. Yeah, So that's the whole point. That's
Speaker 6: the whole point is that no one knows, okay, how
Speaker 6: this is going to play out.
Speaker 2: That's right. We were all in on Ryan being a
Speaker 2: very good quarterback. Yes, okay, you should have been out.
Speaker 7: Dion Sanders will not allow his son to be drafted
Speaker 7: by the Browns.
Speaker 5: In or out. Todd, I am in.
Speaker 8: I think Dean will be very involved with where she
Speaker 8: door goes, and I don't think he wants him going
Speaker 8: to Cleveland.
Speaker 5: Marvin, I'm with Todd completely.
Speaker 6: Okay, Dan, I'm in, I'm out. I Uh, Dog doesn't
Speaker 6: have any leverage in this. The whoever wants to draft
Speaker 6: him is gonna draft him. You know, as much as
Speaker 6: he may believe he has it, he doesn't when it
Speaker 6: comes to this. Otherwise a lot of people would have done.
Speaker 5: He's not.
Speaker 6: He's not the Mannings.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry Matthew Stafford should take less to finish his
Speaker 7: career with the Rams.
Speaker 6: In or out.
Speaker 8: Todd, I'm gonna be in on that. Stay with a
Speaker 8: really good team that can go places he doesn't need.
Speaker 8: He's making plenty of money. He can take a little
Speaker 8: discount and he'll still be fine financially.
Speaker 5: Marvin. I mean, stay with a good team and stay
Speaker 5: in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: I'm in to a certain degree of how much are
Speaker 2: they going to pay you? I think I think you
Speaker 2: gotta maybe meet halfway, because it's weird that you get
Speaker 2: move on from Matthew Stafford and then you're gonna need
Speaker 2: a quarterback. The cow they're ready to win now that
Speaker 2: defense is young and good. You got Pooka Nakua, you're
Speaker 2: gonna get rid of Cooper Cup. You still have a
Speaker 2: good running back. I don't know if it like you
Speaker 2: got a window here of a couple of years that
Speaker 2: you can You were a couple of plays away from
Speaker 2: going to the NFC Title Game, So I would figure
Speaker 2: out how to make Matthew Stafford work.
Speaker 6: Not only going to the NFC Title Game but hosting it.
Speaker 6: That's a big deal and people forget that if it's
Speaker 6: not snowing, they probably don't fumble those two times. That's
Speaker 6: not much different football game against the Eagles, who would
Speaker 6: go on and dominate in the Super Bowl. So I'm
Speaker 6: I'm out on this one. He should be paid as
Speaker 6: a top five quarterback if that's what you expect him
Speaker 6: to be. What are the La Rams going to do
Speaker 6: without a quarterback? This was the guy they went after
Speaker 6: and got to win a Super Bowl. So yeah, you
Speaker 6: have to find a way whether to meet in the middle,
Speaker 6: like Dan says, or just simply pay the guy because
Speaker 6: that's what it's worth. If it's a two year deal,
Speaker 6: these two years are the exact opportunity to win another championship.
Speaker 7: All right, last question. If I was on the competition committee,
Speaker 7: I would vote to eliminate pushing ball carriers aka the
Speaker 7: tush push, the push tush, the brotherly shoved.
Speaker 8: I am in, let's stop the touch push. Let them
Speaker 8: get in on their own that other players pushing or
Speaker 8: pulling them in.
Speaker 7: Marvin, I mean, I hate that play, Dan, I'm out.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 2: Unless you, you know, kind of modify this, tweak it
Speaker 2: a little bit. It's a football play. Everybody everybody can
Speaker 2: run this same play. The Eagles just do it better
Speaker 2: than everybody else.
Speaker 6: That's the best point.
Speaker 5: I'm out on this.
Speaker 6: It's a football play. It's the epitome of a football play.
Speaker 6: Get lower, get leverage, beat them. You can't do it,
Speaker 6: so you want to ban it. And the fact that
Speaker 6: it's Philadelphia is a big reason why to watching them
Speaker 6: hold the Lombardi Trophy and do what they do so well.
Speaker 6: You know, when when Jalen Hurts gets at the one
Speaker 6: inch yard line, the one yard line in any aspect
Speaker 6: of things, they're in for a touchdown period, you're getting seven.
Speaker 6: So yeah, if I'm on the competition committee, I think
Speaker 6: that is The lamest thing that I could see is
Speaker 6: watch the NFL ban this next year.
Speaker 2: All you have to do is take away the guy
Speaker 2: behind in a quarterback. I'm on repeat on this that
Speaker 2: you don't have that. If I just said the Eagles
Speaker 2: are gonna line up for a quarterback sneak with nobody
Speaker 2: behind Jalen Hurts pushing him, They're still going to be
Speaker 2: extremely successful. And then what are we going to eliminate
Speaker 2: the quarterback sneak?
Speaker 6: That's quarterback sneak was so important for so many of us.
Speaker 6: Well Tom Brady, oh, he was so good at Tom
Speaker 6: Brady mastered that.
Speaker 5: Mastered it.
Speaker 6: I was very good at it. Not only that I
Speaker 6: was big, but I was able to get to the
Speaker 6: right gap so many of the times and made it
Speaker 6: so easy for me to do it. So I also
Speaker 6: wasn't afraid of you know.
Speaker 5: I wasn't.
Speaker 6: I didn't like I didn't mind the contact. Let's go
Speaker 6: get let's go get bloody, let's go get dirty a
Speaker 6: little bit here.
Speaker 2: That's it. We've done it. That is in or L seeing.
Speaker 2: You did a wonderful job postings. Yeah, just in case
Speaker 2: if PAULI can't you know, he's not able to complete
Speaker 2: his duties that you will be here to be the
Speaker 2: host of ills huge shoes to killin or I'm glad
Speaker 2: I can step up. Yeah, well we'll take a break.
Speaker 2: How about a round of applause again for Ryan Leeft contested, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he did it, he did it.
Speaker 5: I tried it.
Speaker 2: Yeah Yeah.
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Speaker 2: We started the show talking about the coaches and gms
Speaker 2: at the Combine and they're there to answer questions, but
Speaker 2: really not answer the questions. They want to give you
Speaker 2: sort of the feeling that they answered the question. And
Speaker 2: I was watching yesterday and Judy Bautista, the senior national
Speaker 2: columnist and co host of The Insiders on NFL Network,
Speaker 2: did a great job. And she did a great job
Speaker 2: because she kept it really simple. When you would have
Speaker 2: a coach who would talk about what they need to
Speaker 2: do next year, you know the Bengals, Zach Taylor telling
Speaker 2: telling everybody, hey, we got to get we can't have
Speaker 2: a slow start, and then you know, we've got to
Speaker 2: make sure we don't do that. And then I think
Speaker 2: Judy just said how well, and you could just see
Speaker 2: the look on his face like, wait a minute. We're
Speaker 2: not supposed to ask tough questions like that. And I
Speaker 2: said to Fritzy, reach out to Judy because I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: It was a it was a right to the point question.
Speaker 2: Don't let him reload there. And I loved it. So
Speaker 2: thank you for doing that. Give us your sort of
Speaker 2: thought process of how you're trying to get something out
Speaker 2: of people who really don't want to give you something.
Speaker 11: Well, I mean I really wanted to know the answer myself,
Speaker 11: like because we always talk about like in the case
Speaker 11: of the Bengals slow starts, like we talk about it
Speaker 11: like I feel like every year, and so I was like,
Speaker 11: how do you like you got to get over this,
Speaker 11: this is what's stopping you from getting there, And so
Speaker 11: I mean, why wouldn't you ask that question, like, well,
Speaker 11: what are you going to do? His credit, he answered
Speaker 11: the question right. He said, they're looking at all aspects
Speaker 11: of the off season program and changing training camp and everything.
Speaker 11: So I give Zach a lot of credit for actually
Speaker 11: answering the question.
Speaker 2: Now you were talking to not only Zach Taylor, Andy Reid,
Speaker 2: Omar Khan, Troy Vincent Rich McKay for the competition committee.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that the Tush push competition committee in
Speaker 2: a moment, But what is the number one overriding question
Speaker 2: aside from the tush push at the combine in your opinion, Well.
Speaker 11: Aside from the rules stuff, I think, I mean, it's
Speaker 11: just the quarterback musical chairs. What's going to happen with
Speaker 11: Matthew Stafford? What about Aaron Rodgers? You know, what are
Speaker 11: they going to do with Sam Darnold in Minnesota? They
Speaker 11: going to franchise Tag and they got to trying to
Speaker 11: sign up. So I think just there's so many teams
Speaker 11: that need quarterbacks. There's just not that many of them.
Speaker 11: Especially there's not that many top, top level ones in
Speaker 11: the draft, So how are all of these veteran quarterbacks
Speaker 11: going to move around? Kirk Cousins is another one that's
Speaker 11: really I think the dominant topic here.
Speaker 2: If I'm a RAMS fan, how nervous should I be?
Speaker 11: I think they still want Matthew Stafford. I think the
Speaker 11: question is can they come to an agreement on the money.
Speaker 11: There's no question there is interest in Stafford outside of
Speaker 11: Los Angeles, right, I Mean, there are again, so many
Speaker 11: teams that need quarterbacks, so there will be a market.
Speaker 11: The Rams ideally would like to keep them, but you know,
Speaker 11: the Rams are the Rams and Stafford are like a
Speaker 11: on different timelines. They have an otherwise very young roster
Speaker 11: that is ahead of schedule. I mean they were ahead
Speaker 11: of schedule last season getting into the playoffs, and they've
Speaker 11: got this, you know, older, still very very good and
Speaker 11: productive quarterback, but they're just not aligned on the timeline.
Speaker 11: I still think he will end up staying in Los Angeles,
Speaker 11: but I feel less certain of that than I did,
Speaker 11: you know a week ago.
Speaker 2: Yeh, Because we keep saying or I hear analyst saying, hey,
Speaker 2: a team that's ready to win now needs Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2: I go, well, the Rams are ready to win now,
Speaker 2: so the Rams should acquire Matthew Stafford like I would pay.
Speaker 2: I would say, you know, it's not my money, but
Speaker 2: two years, one hundred million dollars or whatever, right, and
Speaker 2: you keep it friendly and keep him because you're a
Speaker 2: few plays away from being in the NFC title game
Speaker 2: when you would have hosted the title game.
Speaker 11: Yeah, there's no question that the Rams are a better
Speaker 11: team if Matthew Stafford is the quarterback next year than
Speaker 11: if they have practically anybody else that could conceivably be
Speaker 11: their quarterback next year if he goes, right, I mean,
Speaker 11: if he goes, who's their quarterback next year? Everybody keeps
Speaker 11: saying like, well, what about Aaron Rodgers. Well, respectfully, I'd
Speaker 11: rather have Matthew Stafford at this point. He's much better
Speaker 11: and he's been more productive recently, So I agree with you.
Speaker 11: If I'm the Rams, you're looking for a quarterback like
Speaker 11: Matthew Stafford. On the other hand, are they looking at
Speaker 11: it a little bit more long term and saying, you know,
Speaker 11: the capital we could get back if we trade Matthew
Speaker 11: Stafford to you know, the Raiders or the Giants or
Speaker 11: whatever team comes up. Does that help us then fuel
Speaker 11: the pipeline for years and years to come. We'll see,
Speaker 11: you know.
Speaker 2: It's strange when the Colts talked about there's an open
Speaker 2: competition quarterback and the first thing I thought of, Judy,
Speaker 2: was Matthew Stafford play half the season, half your games indoors.
Speaker 2: That's a team that won eight games, they've all they've
Speaker 2: taken a chance on Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers before
Speaker 2: he's he's a better version of those quarterbacks, it feels
Speaker 2: like and he might be worth two wins to get
Speaker 2: you into the to the playoffs. I don't know if
Speaker 2: they've officially bailed on Anthony Richardson, but the fact that
Speaker 2: it's an open competition, is it truly an open competition
Speaker 2: with the Colts, right? I?
Speaker 11: That is my question, because who is coming in to
Speaker 11: provide that open competition with Anthony Richardson. They want it
Speaker 11: to work with him. He was their draft pick, so
Speaker 11: they are invested in him. Many people in that building
Speaker 11: are invested in him making it. And so I do wonder,
Speaker 11: you know, when you look out there again, who are
Speaker 11: they going to bring in as the veteran they had
Speaker 11: Joe Flapoli, who are they bringing in who is a
Speaker 11: real competitor to Anthony Richardson. And keeping in mind that ultimately, yes,
Speaker 11: maybe it's an open competition, but what they really want
Speaker 11: is to spur Anthony Richardson to raise his level. So again,
Speaker 11: who do you bring in who can spur Anthony Richardson
Speaker 11: to raise's level? But not really supplaned to Anthony richards
Speaker 11: In big picture.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Judy Bautista, NFL Network co host of
Speaker 2: the insiders on NFL Network how awkward is the situation
Speaker 2: asking the Ravens about Justin Tucker.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I have to say, Eric DaCosta, the general manager,
Speaker 11: said more than I expected. I thought they would defer
Speaker 11: completely to the NFL. You know, there's an NFL investigation,
Speaker 11: so we're not going to say anything. It's an active investigation.
Speaker 11: We're not going to say anything. And for him to
Speaker 11: say the number of allegations is concerning was frankly further
Speaker 11: than I expected him to go. They obviously know that
Speaker 11: those questions are coming, so I don't feel particularly bad
Speaker 11: for them that they're getting questioned about it. It is,
Speaker 11: you know, it's troubling because it just came out of nowhere,
Speaker 11: it feels like, and now it has ballooned. The number
Speaker 11: of allegations just is growing and growing and growing, and
Speaker 11: again the NFL is investigating. And I mean, as a
Speaker 11: football player, he is an all time great, maybe the
Speaker 11: greatest kicker in the game ever. But certainly this has
Speaker 11: cast a pall over the Ravens. It sort of makes
Speaker 11: you go back and think, like when he was struggling
Speaker 11: on the field in the middle of the season, like
Speaker 11: is this why you know we don't know the answer
Speaker 11: to that, but you do wonder what the Ravens are
Speaker 11: going to do because he was struggling at kicking. Now
Speaker 11: there's this. Does this give them the opening to move
Speaker 11: on from him? Do they stick with him? Do they
Speaker 11: think that this will all be resolved and that will
Speaker 11: also resolve his struggles on the field. Very interesting, and
Speaker 11: again I thought Eric Depasta went further than I ever
Speaker 11: expected them, even just admitting that it's concerning.
Speaker 2: This isn't justin Tucker from five years ago where he
Speaker 2: was not expendable. He's expendable now. And the fact that
Speaker 2: John Harbaugh said, hey, we're looking at kickers should tell
Speaker 2: you everything about this. It got to you know, recently
Speaker 2: where it was uncomfortable awkward. You're trying to ask the
Speaker 2: Browns about Deshaun Watson. I don't even know if that's
Speaker 2: a topic anymore with the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 11: It's not really a topic. He tours achilles, as you know,
Speaker 11: and then he retore it, you know, in the middle
Speaker 11: of his rehab process, so that essentially, we think keeps
Speaker 11: him out for this season. It's not really a topic.
Speaker 11: They picked very high in the draft, number two. They
Speaker 11: are they need a quarterback. Whether they take a quarterback
Speaker 11: at number two is a different question, or get one
Speaker 11: in free agency. But it's impossible to imagine that Deshaun
Speaker 11: Watson will play again for the Cleveland Browns. And I
Speaker 11: think a bigger question is, like, then what happens, you know,
Speaker 11: the Browns are even if he stays on roster, If
Speaker 11: the Browns move on from him, who takes him on?
Speaker 11: If anybody?
Speaker 2: Is there a place in the league for Russell Wilson
Speaker 2: as a starter?
Speaker 11: I think so, And it could still be Pittsburgh. I
Speaker 11: think so. Omar Khan, the general manager, told me yesterday that,
Speaker 11: you know, first of all, they don't have a quarterback
Speaker 11: under contract right now, so everything's on the table for them.
Speaker 11: They got to get one, they got to get two,
Speaker 11: but he said their preference is to have it be
Speaker 11: one of those two guys, Russell Wilson of Justin Fields.
Speaker 11: And so, you know, there was a lot of sentiment
Speaker 11: for Justin Fields coming at a training camp early in
Speaker 11: the season, even when Mike Tomlin made the switch and
Speaker 11: it paid off initially, you know, and that the Steelers
Speaker 11: really took off when they went to Russell Wilson. There
Speaker 11: was still a great deal of centiment that Justin Fields
Speaker 11: hasn't yet reached his ceiling. So I do think there
Speaker 11: is a role for Russell Wilson somewhere, and it may
Speaker 11: very well be in Pittsburgh. Again.
Speaker 2: All right, Titian Committee, you're well versed with this of
Speaker 2: what's the process? If you know, the Green Bay Packers
Speaker 2: bring it to the competition committee, I'm guessing to say,
Speaker 2: we want to outlaw the Toush push. So what's the
Speaker 2: process now?
Speaker 11: So teams can submit rules proposals and those go before
Speaker 11: the owners. The competition committee can sort of endorse it,
Speaker 11: can put their weight behind it. No pun intended in
Speaker 11: the case of the Tush push, but they you know,
Speaker 11: so they can sort of say to the owners, yeah,
Speaker 11: like we agree with this, we think you should go.
Speaker 11: Here's the thing about that play. There is no real
Speaker 11: injury data on it, which is a good thing. There
Speaker 11: haven't been injuries. It's just not run that often, so
Speaker 11: there's not a wealth of injury data on it. If
Speaker 11: there were serious injuries happening on that play, there's no
Speaker 11: question the league would say we got to get this
Speaker 11: play out of the game, the same way as you've
Speaker 11: seen other plays get removed from the game because of injuries.
Speaker 11: So if quarterbacks were getting blown up every time they
Speaker 11: run this play and you know, dislocated shoulders, you would
Speaker 11: certainly see a push from the league to get it
Speaker 11: out of the game. Right now, I think it's sort
Speaker 11: of more based on the possibility that there could be injuries.
Speaker 11: And there's also just people who feel like this doesn't
Speaker 11: really look like a football play. Maybe it looks too
Speaker 11: much like rugby. Why are we letting, you know, the
Speaker 11: quarterback get pushed from behind? We don't really let that happen.
Speaker 11: So it's more sort of based on nebulous stuff rather
Speaker 11: than like hard and fast data. You need twenty four
Speaker 11: votes from ownership to change rules. That as a high
Speaker 11: bar for everything, even things that you think are no brainer.
Speaker 11: Rules changes twenty four votes to get them agree on
Speaker 11: anything as hard. So I think that's a very high bar.
Speaker 11: I'd be surprised if they fan it. And there's also
Speaker 11: the sentiment from a lot of teams that it's just like,
Speaker 11: well stop it, like if you want to end this play,
Speaker 11: figure out how to stop it, and I the darkness
Speaker 11: in me says like, if you want to see this
Speaker 11: play go away, like the first time a quarterback gets
Speaker 11: really injured on that play, that will be the end
Speaker 11: of that play.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't understand why the NFL brought back that you
Speaker 2: could push somebody from behind what in two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the impetus was for that.
Speaker 11: I don't either. You're not You're also not allowed to
Speaker 11: pull somebody right, like if running back has stopped, you
Speaker 11: can't grab his jersey by the chest and pull him
Speaker 11: over the goal line. Look, I mean, the Eagles found
Speaker 11: found a niche in the rules that they could exploit,
Speaker 11: and they're outstanding at it. And let's be honest, part
Speaker 11: of the reason the teams want to get rid of
Speaker 11: it is a their defenses can stop it and be
Speaker 11: their offenses are not adept at running it themselves. You know,
Speaker 11: if more teams were good at this, I'd bet you
Speaker 11: would not see more teams calling for it to go.
Speaker 11: But I think when you talk to defensive coaches, a
Speaker 11: lot of them are just like, listen, we got to
Speaker 11: figure out a way to stop it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Judy, if the Eagles weren't a good team
Speaker 2: and they were the Titans, nobody would care about this play.
Speaker 11: That is correct. The fact that it is so effective
Speaker 11: and that they are scoring so many touchdowns on it
Speaker 11: is why it has attracted attention. And again, if other
Speaker 11: teams could do it as successfully as they do it,
Speaker 11: I don't think you would you know, you'd be hearing this.
Speaker 2: If the Buffalo Bills could run it as successfully, they
Speaker 2: would have played in the super Bowl.
Speaker 11: And the reason other teams don't do it is because
Speaker 11: they don't practice it the way the Eagles do. First
Speaker 11: of all, the Eagles have unique personnel, right, I mean,
Speaker 11: you know, Jalen Heards squats whatever he spot six hundred
Speaker 11: punds something ridiculous, so he is uniquely built to execute this.
Speaker 11: They have linemen who are outstanding, they have a gray
Speaker 11: offensive line, and they practice this, right, I mean, this
Speaker 11: is a play that they run, so you know. I again,
Speaker 11: if other teams were as successful, I don't think you
Speaker 11: would hear this. You know, Hugh and cry about we
Speaker 11: got to get rid of it. And certainly if defenses
Speaker 11: could were stopping it, nobody would care.
Speaker 6: If I gave you over under three and a half
Speaker 6: quarterbacks first round, you would take the.
Speaker 11: Probably the under, I guess, which is so low for
Speaker 11: you know, for a draft. But you know the too
Speaker 11: cam Ward and Schadur Sanders are. So when you talk
Speaker 11: to people who know this much better than I do,
Speaker 11: for sure, there's so far ahead. Cam Ward seems to
Speaker 11: be ahead of everybody right now. I don't know how
Speaker 11: many more you're going to get in the first round.
Speaker 11: But again, there are so many teams that are desperate.
Speaker 11: I think we'll probably have a better sense after the
Speaker 11: pro days, when we, you know, when we see these
Speaker 11: guys throw to familiar targets and you can really see
Speaker 11: how they are. And certainly after free agency, when we see,
Speaker 11: you know, if the quarterback veteran market gets scrambled, then
Speaker 11: see who's left. But I don't, you know, I don't
Speaker 11: have a great feel about this class beyond those two.
Speaker 2: Is Tom Brady going to be at the combine?
Speaker 11: I have not seen him. He is very from everything
Speaker 11: everybody has said. He's very involved though in Raiders' decision making,
Speaker 11: which is exactly what Mark Davis said he wanted when
Speaker 11: he brought him on as a minority owner, that he
Speaker 11: wanted him involved in decision, especially selecting the next quarterback.
Speaker 11: So I don't know if Brady's actually going to be
Speaker 11: up in the stands with his binoculars, you know, watching
Speaker 11: the bench press. I don't know if we're going that far,
Speaker 11: but certainly his voice is loud in that building.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would think the interviewing process, you know,
Speaker 2: being involved in that, I don't know.
Speaker 11: I would bet when they bring in the kids for
Speaker 11: the thirty visits kids guys, you know that for the
Speaker 11: visits to the building, I would bet that Tom Brady
Speaker 11: will take part in some way in those meetings.
Speaker 2: Do you think Brady will still be the best quarterback
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas this season? Yes, yes, I still.
Speaker 11: I mean I don't. I'm happy he's you know that
Speaker 11: he's happy in retirement and he's doing well. But like
Speaker 11: you know, if Brady put on a uniform right now,
Speaker 11: would you bet against him? I would not.
Speaker 2: I would not. Judy, keep asking how and why and
Speaker 2: just simple questions. One word great, but thank you for
Speaker 2: joining us.
Speaker 11: Thank you, Dan, my pleasure.
Speaker 2: That's a Judy Batista, senior national columnist, co host of
Speaker 2: the Insiders on NFL Network.