WEBVTT - The Fat Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another episode of Big Money Energy, where

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<v Speaker 1>we talked to super successful and self made people to

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<v Speaker 1>find out exactly how they did it, how they went

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<v Speaker 1>from nothing to something. I'm Ryan, sirhand, and today I'm

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<v Speaker 1>joined by the one and only Fat Jewish also known

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<v Speaker 1>as Josh. True story, I haven't been able to read

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<v Speaker 1>his name off a piece of paper without laughing. This guy.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about what it was like to be the

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<v Speaker 1>world's first influencer crowdsourcing his baby's name, how he manages

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<v Speaker 1>to have a private life despite being a walking media brand,

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<v Speaker 1>and how he went from posting memes on Instagram to

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<v Speaker 1>revolutionizing the liquor industry and changing it forever. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into this. You're gonna like it. Welcome to another episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Today is super special because I'm sitting down with one

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<v Speaker 1>of my most favorite, favorite favorite people. He is an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute legend and is an amazing entrepreneur as well, And

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<v Speaker 1>I know he probably doesn't want to talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>that way, but but I definitely want to get into

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<v Speaker 1>the details of how good of a business person he

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<v Speaker 1>is and how he's not just a guy who's a

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<v Speaker 1>social media personality who's built an entire kind of empire

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<v Speaker 1>based on humor and making people laugh. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>know how to describe him, so I'm just gonna say, welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph Strowski a k a. The Fat Jewish. Just close

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes and like what comes to your mind? Your body? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you most of the time. And then Amelia is like,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you making that face? I'm like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if kick gets guy all the time. Appreciate that

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<v Speaker 1>a few details because they're important for for this business podcast. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know, Josh is in every sense of

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<v Speaker 1>the word, a master entrepreneur. He's a social media mogul, actor, influencer, investor,

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<v Speaker 1>plus size model. Are you are you about to have

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<v Speaker 1>a baby? Yeah? Is that real? That's okay, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that. Uh. If you know him from his Instagram account,

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<v Speaker 1>The Fat Jewish before, like everyone had an Instagram account, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like boom, like you I think you invented it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you invent Instagram? I think I was the first influencer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so, which like sorry, but also not not sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what have I done? Yeah? Like this thing has

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<v Speaker 1>gotten really out of control. Yeah, you're such a dick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's also the co founder of Swiss beverages that you'll

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<v Speaker 1>know from Babe and White Girl Rose, which was then

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<v Speaker 1>acquired by Anheuser Busch in BEV in two thousand nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>which I definitely want to talk about. You're super funny,

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<v Speaker 1>You're super influential everyone. I feel like people have now

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. Is it weird to know that people

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<v Speaker 1>have grown up with you? Yeah? Oh definitely. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>do people come up to you and they're like, oh, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I was following you when I was seven. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of them have like children now, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, can you hold this baby? Let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>photo with you know, it's not just like the girls

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<v Speaker 1>and the dudes in college anymore. They have jobs. No,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a couple in Brooklyn will be like, we

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<v Speaker 1>take a you know, we please take a photo of

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<v Speaker 1>my son at Kiss and my other son adicis Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they both the children have beards somehow. Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>likely to super expensive. They look they all of like

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<v Speaker 1>they're all of Mumford's sons. Yeah, and they're just like

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<v Speaker 1>they can take a picture, and I'm like, wow, this

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<v Speaker 1>is these people are really growing up. This is this

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<v Speaker 1>is scary. Yeah, you're You're not fat anymore. I'm still big.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still big. I'm still like like bone because that's

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<v Speaker 1>your like just your body type. Yeah, that's true. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like a thick Rushian. But when we first met, there

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<v Speaker 1>was more of you. I was like, oh, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was the less Now I'm like clinically obese. I think

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<v Speaker 1>at the time I met you, I was I was

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<v Speaker 1>actually obese. Yeah, so I was a lot more Shrek then. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was more Shrek, which was kind of working for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I would like, you know, get winded getting

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<v Speaker 1>out of a car, and you know, I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>is this too much? Has like cancel culture come after

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<v Speaker 1>you at all? I mean because you a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>your following is you know, part of like the meme culture,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you personally, have you gotten any pushback because

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<v Speaker 1>things have been so real and so serious, Like why

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<v Speaker 1>would you be funny at a time like this? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I actually was worried about that people are gonna be like,

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<v Speaker 1>how could you be such a big fucking stupid, funny

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<v Speaker 1>idiot while there's real like use your platform, But like

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<v Speaker 1>my thing is like if you want real ship from

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<v Speaker 1>like you people and like heart, Like there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>outlets for that. I'm gonna give you some dumb ship

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<v Speaker 1>to like take you out of it for a second

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<v Speaker 1>and like make you forget about it. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>mostly like I tried to do as much as I could,

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<v Speaker 1>Like when the fucking when it first hit, we gave

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<v Speaker 1>like I gave away like a million dollars worth of

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<v Speaker 1>babe worth of wine to like fucking I was giving

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<v Speaker 1>out who because like everybody deserved to get fucked up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Your nail salon truck was

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest thing socially, distance manicure truck, glory holes for

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<v Speaker 1>your hands, if you will, totally you can get a

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<v Speaker 1>social and it was all free. We sent that thing

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<v Speaker 1>like around the fucking country. You know, the meme of

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<v Speaker 1>like the large naked black dude with his dick hanging.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a deep dive on him, and actually I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up getting in touch with his brother, and now

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<v Speaker 1>I've been speaking to like his whole family and we're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out like how to kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>monetize like all this success with him. So these are

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<v Speaker 1>the ways in which I get, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like dig really deep on Wordy's You Bear

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<v Speaker 1>the Third which is that guy's name. But no, like

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<v Speaker 1>no cancel culture within that. I mean I got I

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<v Speaker 1>had canceled ship before, which was like you know about

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<v Speaker 1>like memes and stealing memes and all the ship. But

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<v Speaker 1>like interesting enough when like cancel culture actually came up

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<v Speaker 1>about like sexually harassing people. Like the one thing is

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm an India on the internet, but I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like a nice Jewish guy, so like I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>nothing like that has happened to me. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>got canceled. I was getting canceled before, people like it

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<v Speaker 1>was hot to get canceled. Are you married now or

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<v Speaker 1>are you with somebody? Yeah? I have a I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>I have like a woman, like someone. I asked me

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<v Speaker 1>if someone's cap if anyone's capable of loving me? You

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<v Speaker 1>did get married to a woman and you get divorced

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<v Speaker 1>like the next day, and I remember that. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>was like a corn fed midwesterner, Yeah, with like real

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<v Speaker 1>big shoulders. Yeah that was like for the look. Um No,

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<v Speaker 1>but now I have a real relationship with a human. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am actually having a kid. And obviously I've

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<v Speaker 1>been like trying to turn the whole thing into performance art.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, please don't do this, but I am

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<v Speaker 1>taking baby name suggestions. I'm saying I'm down, Like my

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<v Speaker 1>kid doesn't have to be named like Blender, Like it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be nuts, like the kids name could

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<v Speaker 1>be Bruce. I'm just looking for some fire. Met this woman.

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<v Speaker 1>I met her on the internet. What do you mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how do people have sex with each other? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready to be a dad? Yeah? Like whatever, right, it's good, right,

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<v Speaker 1>good for content? I mean, did you not have a

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<v Speaker 1>kid for content? Yeah? I mean like it was it

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<v Speaker 1>went through my mind. I No, I definitely did not

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<v Speaker 1>have a kid for content? But did A kids show

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<v Speaker 1>is up? And you're like, you're gonna help totally. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm already working on, you know, getting a big piece

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<v Speaker 1>of bread. Put the kid on with lettuce to me

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<v Speaker 1>to over pretend it's like in a fucking sandwich, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I already got all kinds of ship. And she's not

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<v Speaker 1>really complaining because like she knows what she signed up for.

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<v Speaker 1>She's with me willingly, so she knew obviously that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to turn this into something completely dumb. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm ready because I'm like kind of old. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight, so I'm like done a long time since

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<v Speaker 1>you got expelled from all those schools. Yeah, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>dusty as hell, like I'm an excellennial for sure. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm for sure an excellennial. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like pretty much ready because also, like what else

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<v Speaker 1>is there to do? You know, let's have let's have

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<v Speaker 1>a kid talk to me about why did you get

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<v Speaker 1>expelled from college? Sawesome ship classics? You know, like Van Wilder,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the movie you've seen that. Yeah, I kicked

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<v Speaker 1>at high school. I kicked that in of college, just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, having a good time. I'm just a good

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just a fun guy. I'm just a good guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I like having a good time. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>really easy to get thrown out of a liberal art school.

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<v Speaker 1>I got thrown a skin more but skin Moore is

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<v Speaker 1>not fun. They don't do six shift over there. So

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<v Speaker 1>you were doing six ship and they were like, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do that here anymore, and so you yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I went to Sunni Albany and like with a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of like Stan Island guys, and that's when things

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<v Speaker 1>got fall like a bunch of guys who were like

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<v Speaker 1>going to be firefighters with like Foreskin Yeah, great, good times.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like skin Moore was just more like

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<v Speaker 1>Upper West Side, like Priva Sla. It was more of

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<v Speaker 1>those it was who had been hanging out with. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're like shooting the baked potatoes out of a tennis

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<v Speaker 1>ball machine and like, you know, talking to you is

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<v Speaker 1>such a workout, um, because I'm trying to listen and

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<v Speaker 1>like trying to understand like what's real, what's not real,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening? But I guess it's just all part of

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<v Speaker 1>part of who you are. How do you how do

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<v Speaker 1>you separate though? And maybe you don't kind of Josh

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<v Speaker 1>from the fat Jewish or is there no separation because

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<v Speaker 1>I know you came up with that name initially when

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<v Speaker 1>you were part of a rap trio. Yeah we've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen our stuff? Yeah yeah, you showed me. Actually no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you know it's again. I think that like

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<v Speaker 1>the Kid is a perfect example, which is just drawing

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<v Speaker 1>lines of just like you know, not everything can be

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<v Speaker 1>like totally ridiculous and performative, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the Kid's gonna be real. Yeah, right, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm gonna fund the kid up for sure, and

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<v Speaker 1>like land the kid in like six therapy for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But like it's just not everything can be for the internet, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do it all for the Graham. Like some

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<v Speaker 1>people just get like too open. You gotta keep some

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<v Speaker 1>ship off the Internet because for you, is it going

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<v Speaker 1>to be personal family stuff? Yeah, I mean, I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have a kid if I couldn't get content

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<v Speaker 1>out of it, because that would be ridiculous. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta like draw the line, and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to fund the kid up, but not too bad,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so like I try to keep my partner

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<v Speaker 1>like super private. Um, some people are just like it's

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<v Speaker 1>so open, you know what I mean. Like some was

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<v Speaker 1>like influencers who are just like they're just like I

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<v Speaker 1>just hey you guys, Like I just need to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you, like I just like I have ibs, and

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<v Speaker 1>like things just get too intimate and real, and like

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta keep some ship like in the some ship's

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be like kept in the dark, Like we don't

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<v Speaker 1>all need to know everything. I don't consider myself an

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<v Speaker 1>influence at this point. Also, I'm like getting too old

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<v Speaker 1>for this ship. In the words of Danny Glover ten

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, I was, you know, on a slipping slide

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<v Speaker 1>covered in Marinara, but like that's just not a good

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<v Speaker 1>look for like a thirty eight year old. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>friends with some like older guys who are still just

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<v Speaker 1>like they need constant content, like constant YouTube ship. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just gets crazy. So I've really transitioned into like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of mentoring the next generation of complete and utter morons

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<v Speaker 1>and not doing it myself because eventually you're just like

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<v Speaker 1>the old dude of the party and it's pretty witch.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure that we get to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested also in the business side of what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you can you walk me through that both, like

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<v Speaker 1>the Fat Jewish as a business, what that looks like,

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<v Speaker 1>how many people work for you? Like how do you

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<v Speaker 1>make money? And then when Swish came about and that process. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was basically the first influencer, so brands

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<v Speaker 1>were coming to me and being like, can we pay you?

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't fucking know anything. I would just like make

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<v Speaker 1>up acronyms. I'd be like, I can get you guys

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred million kpm bcs and they were like hell yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pay them, let's go to lunch. Because like guys didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what was going on. But you know, as the

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<v Speaker 1>influencer bubble grew and like it, I just basically was

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't want to do this. This is weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not an influencer. Like I didn't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>part of that. I think that's how I get label old,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not it's not who I am, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think I pretty quickly was like you know what, like

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm like the thing that's different differenally me and

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<v Speaker 1>like other people like that, like being like accounts like

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<v Speaker 1>mine is that I don't like you go up and

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm not gonna name any names, but some of

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<v Speaker 1>these big accounts, they're like in like so like sun Splash,

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<v Speaker 1>Soho Lofts and it's just like people like looking for

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<v Speaker 1>content on computers. It's like the sounds of keys clicking

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like it's like funded by vcs and like

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<v Speaker 1>it's all fucking it's very like corporate and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's find a video. Like you know, it turned out

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<v Speaker 1>like the Kwan was like some like Middle Eastern dude

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<v Speaker 1>who was like working in a content farm but I

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<v Speaker 1>was never like that, Like I was just posting photos

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<v Speaker 1>like while drunk and like in a bed. Like it

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<v Speaker 1>was never like that. So I was like, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like I don't want to do this. But the

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<v Speaker 1>one and the other thing is different is is that

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<v Speaker 1>like those types of accounts, they don't talk to the

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<v Speaker 1>people like I talk to everyone who dms me. I

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<v Speaker 1>answer every d M, you know, not if they're like

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<v Speaker 1>if it's like some weird spam, but anyone who comes

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<v Speaker 1>into me. I'm constantly like talking, which is funny for

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<v Speaker 1>people because people will get like really drunk and talk

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<v Speaker 1>ship to me, you know, and they're they're like, fact

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<v Speaker 1>you act and then I'm like, oh hey, then I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like, what's up, man, didn't think i'd see this, huh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they're like, oh my god, I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>We should hang out. I'm coming to New York, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it's kind of a weird way to start it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you just really told me you fucking hate me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean now I don't really have the time as much,

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<v Speaker 1>but people invited me places like I've officiated like Levin weddings,

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<v Speaker 1>going to like Kinsinera's like if you invited me to

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<v Speaker 1>some ship, like some some like finance bros invited me

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<v Speaker 1>to like fly on a private jet while they like

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<v Speaker 1>did coke and just hang out with them. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I would never be trapped in this like

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<v Speaker 1>sky prison with a bunch of like coked up finance bros.

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<v Speaker 1>I turned that down, But in general, it wasn't about

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<v Speaker 1>the money. Nobody paid me. It's just like if you

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<v Speaker 1>invited me, I was down to chill because like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a real fucking person and I'm trying to make real

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<v Speaker 1>memories and I definitely put myself in like dangerous situations

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<v Speaker 1>where like murder was highly possible, Like just like when

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the South of France and like hung

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<v Speaker 1>out with some weird Saudi guys like on a boat,

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<v Speaker 1>like just they just paid for a plane take and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like fuck it, let's go. And so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all up in the d m s. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>like when you create an audience, like when you create

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<v Speaker 1>like a group of people, that's like kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>you're a real person, it's tight like that. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I should do something better than just

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<v Speaker 1>like taking a check and being like you guys, I

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<v Speaker 1>love this thing, and so we basically just like I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to my audience and just like fucking we just

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<v Speaker 1>like we're just friends. Like it's like one giant sleepover,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like a big sleepover and we're all

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<v Speaker 1>on molly um and some of them hate me, but

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<v Speaker 1>like they're there anyway. And then just kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>through that, I was just like, what the fun do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys want? What should we do? Like I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make a thing. I want to make something like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to just like you know, do these

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<v Speaker 1>weird branded things. And so everyone was sucking drinking rose right,

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<v Speaker 1>Rose is sucking slutty. We always call it like the

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<v Speaker 1>slutty cousin of wine. You drink it cold, you just

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<v Speaker 1>like it doesn't matter. And at that time, like it

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<v Speaker 1>was weird. Like once I started like looking into it,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, you know what, everyone's drinking rose? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>No one's like smelling it and being like, oh the

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<v Speaker 1>nutty notes of like just drink it, like you just

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<v Speaker 1>make it cold, drink it and then like text your

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<v Speaker 1>X three times and I was just like, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we No one knows the name of a brand of

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<v Speaker 1>rosett that's what really got me, Like you're just like

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<v Speaker 1>walking to a store and you were just like, give

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<v Speaker 1>me some fucking rosette, you know, make it, make it cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give a ship Like I'm going to a

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<v Speaker 1>pool party and I'm gonna make terrible decisions with my

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<v Speaker 1>body and my you know, and my self respect. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait a minute, Like why can't we

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<v Speaker 1>like make wine like more fucking popping, because like wine

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<v Speaker 1>is sick, right, It's like the oldest fucking drink, Like

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<v Speaker 1>people are getting sucked up on it for a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of years, but it's got this like dusty you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all dusty. It's like guys in little glasses being

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<v Speaker 1>like like my turtleneck, you know which. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm down. I love charcouterie. I love I'm down with wine. Ship.

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<v Speaker 1>But like there's a low brow wine scene. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>real Housewives fucking ice in your shardon a, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking pouring rose and your eyeball scene that no one

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<v Speaker 1>was really capitalizing on. So I was like, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we do it. Let's put it in a fucking can,

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<v Speaker 1>make it fucking slutty, and we'll just do it. Because

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<v Speaker 1>like why couldn't we I was a huge fan of

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<v Speaker 1>and we ended up doing a deal with with annezer Bush.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was a huge fan of like Bud White,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm a fucking shitty beer guy. I love like

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<v Speaker 1>a foamy, garbage bump piss domestic, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we bring wine to that level? You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Because people are doing it, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>no brand for it. Obviously it was boxed wine and

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<v Speaker 1>like slap the bag and that was White Girl Rose. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we put in a bottle. We didn't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>do a can. No one had put sparkling wine in

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<v Speaker 1>a can. So we were just like, let's put in

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<v Speaker 1>a bottle. We'll get a pop and see if people

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<v Speaker 1>want this. And it's just with your internal team that

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<v Speaker 1>was helping you just kind of run your We like

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<v Speaker 1>call the guy that like someone knew that had some wine.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so I was at that time I was

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<v Speaker 1>writing TV shows and they would like go to a

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<v Speaker 1>pilot and then or not and then like I'd sell

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<v Speaker 1>it and then we move on to the next one

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<v Speaker 1>because none of them were that good. Um, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was fun. You could keep getting checks off that and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like getting paid by Craftsman Tools to like

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<v Speaker 1>sit in a giant you know. Craftsman Tools was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we want you to do a Super Bowl commercials, just

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<v Speaker 1>like in early fifteen, and I was like, I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to because at that time, I was just like funking.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care if I get the brand deals or not,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll just troll them and see how much they'll

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<v Speaker 1>let me get away with. And I was like, build

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<v Speaker 1>me like a huge bowl and fill it with chili,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna sit in it. You can google it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like. And I was just like if they they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say no, and I'll be like fuck it. But

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<v Speaker 1>they were like great sounds like sounds disruptive and experiential

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<v Speaker 1>and like hyperlocal sticky, you know, like a million of

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<v Speaker 1>guys where it's like nobody so super out that time.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like this is a hyper multi vertical like

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<v Speaker 1>cloud iterated, end to end, disrupted, experiential, like multi screen vertical.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever these people say. And so I'm in a giant

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<v Speaker 1>thing at chili. So I was getting checks from that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was trying to get I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>wean off of that teat I was with the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that I was writing TV shows with and the guys

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing stuff like that with, and my partners

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<v Speaker 1>with the guys who wrote um they wrote a book

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<v Speaker 1>called White Girl Problems, which is like about like a

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<v Speaker 1>fictional socialite, but it's just like two good looking, fuckable

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish brothers who write that. And so we were like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's put it in. Let's you know, let's we just

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<v Speaker 1>like found a guy that had wine. We put in

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<v Speaker 1>a bottle, and we just like bought some of our

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<v Speaker 1>own money, just put our own fucking money up, bought enough,

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<v Speaker 1>and then just like everything went crazy. Fresh Direct called

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<v Speaker 1>and bought it all like in a day, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we like we didn't know any of the rules. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to sell it out of the trunk of

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<v Speaker 1>my mom's car with ice in the trunk, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they like tried to suspend it. Like we almost got

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<v Speaker 1>our license taken away like in the first week, because

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<v Speaker 1>like you can't do that much chill ship with booze.

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<v Speaker 1>All the ship that I was doing that was completely

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<v Speaker 1>out of bounds and ridiculous and like borderline somewhat palatably

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<v Speaker 1>offensive liquor. People are like like the nerves you know

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<v Speaker 1>they're not they're not down. So then we from there,

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<v Speaker 1>we put it in a can and it just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of went and that was Babe. That's babe. What was

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<v Speaker 1>the time difference between White Girl Rose and Babe one year?

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<v Speaker 1>What really did you find somebody like another distributor who

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<v Speaker 1>could actually create the same kind of partect wine and

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<v Speaker 1>put it into it? Well, that's the nice thing about Rose, right,

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<v Speaker 1>is like no one gives a ship, like you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like no one knows. So like I

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<v Speaker 1>think we just we found like a different wine because

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<v Speaker 1>like no one really knows. And for us, like the

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<v Speaker 1>thing our Rose is it needs to be good. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need to be that good. Ours is about fucking

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<v Speaker 1>brand and it's about having fun. It's about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about making bad decisions. It's about being part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think we switched batches. As long as it's

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<v Speaker 1>close enough, it's close enough and the wine was good.

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<v Speaker 1>We wanted to make sure the wine was good because

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<v Speaker 1>I think the bar was really low. Right, people were

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<v Speaker 1>like fat Jewish put out a wine right, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be cool. I'll buy it one time. Seems interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>but like it's direct to consumer, so people are just

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<v Speaker 1>doing no no. This was like in Storres, this was Instorece.

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<v Speaker 1>There was cutting all those deals where the stores just

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<v Speaker 1>coming to you. Stories were coming us Fresh Direct call

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<v Speaker 1>me the first day and was like, we'll buy it all.

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<v Speaker 1>The first day we sold white Girl Rose on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no White gro Rose didn't even exist. We

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<v Speaker 1>photoshopped the label, put it on and they already bought

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<v Speaker 1>it and we were like, oh fuck, we should probably

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<v Speaker 1>get some wine. Because our whole thing was like if

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<v Speaker 1>we put this up and we do this a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>like I do this a lot, Like I'll put up

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<v Speaker 1>something that's photoshopped and be like, do you guys like this?

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<v Speaker 1>And if everyone's like this is dogshit, I'm like, I'm kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never do this. But then if they're like

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<v Speaker 1>we love it, I'm like, good thing because it's coming

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<v Speaker 1>out in two weeks. Like totally just like focus group

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<v Speaker 1>ship and like I just feel like the people who

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<v Speaker 1>follow me think, like feel like I'm not just like

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<v Speaker 1>shilling to them constantly because I'm not. Like Instagram has

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<v Speaker 1>become there's just a lot of shill that was not

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<v Speaker 1>my angle, Like I'm a complete chip bag but not

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I just didn't want you to feel like

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<v Speaker 1>this was a platform. I was just trying to make something,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I was like, do you guys think this

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<v Speaker 1>is cool? Do you want this whatever? I'm gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>it cheap. Um, I'm gonna make it cheap and it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get you absolutely torched. How many people work for

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<v Speaker 1>you at that time, there were like four of us.

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<v Speaker 1>So my office space situations, I always take offices that

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<v Speaker 1>are like I always wanted to be like as like

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<v Speaker 1>conversation where as possible. So before the Wine my office

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<v Speaker 1>was in a nail salon and Queen's so I was

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<v Speaker 1>like in the bed, like I rented out like a

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<v Speaker 1>waxing room, which was sick and then which I love

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<v Speaker 1>those ladies, like shout out to the hole, to the

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<v Speaker 1>whole squad. And then after that, our first wine office

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<v Speaker 1>was we took the office directly upstairs from one Oak,

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<v Speaker 1>the nightclub on seventeen. I remember that, and so like

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<v Speaker 1>the sound check would like shake the floor and like

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<v Speaker 1>bottle girls would be like smoking Newport lights and like

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<v Speaker 1>it was awesome, like because we were right our offices

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<v Speaker 1>right across from there, like changing room like green, like lounge.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really really sick, like there were fist fights

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<v Speaker 1>between like bottle girls. Like I absolutely loved it because

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<v Speaker 1>I want to, you know, let's make it fun. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna like take some office and be like this

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<v Speaker 1>is our office. We're not doing that. So we did that.

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<v Speaker 1>There were like four of us now, so then there

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<v Speaker 1>are four of you managing your business on social all

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<v Speaker 1>the brand deals, you where your calendar, where we're going,

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<v Speaker 1>and also building out a liquor business. Yes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that like to be like serious for a second,

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<v Speaker 1>like that that I think is one of the main

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<v Speaker 1>things I'm kind of transitioning into is that like like

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<v Speaker 1>people on the internet now, like people have amazing ideas, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but no one actually knows how to execute. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think people look at me a little bit inspirationally there,

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<v Speaker 1>just like this this moron did it. I could do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to inspire them like that, but no

0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.080
<v Speaker 1>one actually knows how to build things. Because what happens

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<v Speaker 1>is is what the internet, you end up seeing it

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<v Speaker 1>distilled down into like the final image. So like what

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see is you would end up seeing me

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<v Speaker 1>like pouring rosette myself in a Kiddi pool or whatever

0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.280
<v Speaker 1>completely dumb, disposable content we were doing, but like it

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<v Speaker 1>was horrible. The Internet is an amazing amplification tool. It's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing for fucking you know, for getting the word out there,

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<v Speaker 1>for like getting customer awareness, but like you still got

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<v Speaker 1>to do all the horrible ship. And I think we

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<v Speaker 1>kept it purposely so that people were like, is he

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<v Speaker 1>is he like a brand ambassador? But like we did

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<v Speaker 1>all the ship. Like I was at a fucking meeting

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<v Speaker 1>with like distributors and like Phoenix with like some guys

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<v Speaker 1>and like short ties being like you could the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>with wine, and I'm like, oh my god, you know, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to get into wine also because the bar

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<v Speaker 1>was very low. There were no cool brands, there was

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<v Speaker 1>no cool ship, and like everything in my life, I've

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<v Speaker 1>always tried to set the bar low and step right

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<v Speaker 1>over it. So now we're like the bad Boys of wine.

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<v Speaker 1>But that required us to do a ton of legwork

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<v Speaker 1>to like get the industry to understand what it was

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<v Speaker 1>we were doing, because nobody had done it like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and also no one had really sort of no one

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<v Speaker 1>had really sort of reverse engineered the proposition, which was

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<v Speaker 1>like create the create like the audience first, then put

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<v Speaker 1>out the products. I think the way that people normally great,

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<v Speaker 1>the way people normally do it is is like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they create a product and people come yeah, they're like, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you love this. But I was just like, what's up,

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<v Speaker 1>you fucking maniacs? Like what do you guys want? They

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<v Speaker 1>were all like, Rose, we have a drinking problem. Here

0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:24.600
<v Speaker 1>eight million people at that time. We're like, we all

0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:25.879
<v Speaker 1>have a drinking problem. And I was like, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give you. Like, we also wanted to like reinvent

0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:29.760
<v Speaker 1>wine events, so we like, you know, we have crazy

0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.000
<v Speaker 1>We had crazy wine parties, you know, like all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of ridiculous because wine parties now are you know, traditionally

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<v Speaker 1>are charcuterie, which again I love, but like not that lead.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to learn how to do absolutely fucking everything

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<v Speaker 1>and do you get down and there do you do

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<v Speaker 1>the work to all of it? That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what I'm getting at, which is that

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<v Speaker 1>like I think a lot of the like I think

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<v Speaker 1>people don't know that, and a lot of kids come

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<v Speaker 1>to me and are like some of them have really

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<v Speaker 1>really great ideas. I mean, some of them are horrible,

0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.080
<v Speaker 1>but like, also follow your stupid dreams always. But like

0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.240
<v Speaker 1>people people DM me and are like, what are your Like,

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<v Speaker 1>here's an idea that I have, and I'm just like,

0:20:57.920 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 1>all right, well how are you? And again I'm responding

0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:01.520
<v Speaker 1>to the d M, so I'm just like, you know how,

0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how are you gonna? No one actually knows

0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:06.600
<v Speaker 1>how to do anything right, because I think at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, the the older generations like had no

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<v Speaker 1>good ideas. I mean, I guess except for like you know,

0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Steve Jobs, but whatever. Boomers are man stupid kids have

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<v Speaker 1>unfucking believable idea But building things is really hard. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't just slap it on the internet and just be

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<v Speaker 1>like boom, I've got a CBD sock company, Like let

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking millions roll. You gotta do so much fucking

0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:29.840
<v Speaker 1>horrible ship. So we built it brick by brick, like

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<v Speaker 1>I was the stuff that I've had. The stuff I

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<v Speaker 1>had to do to get that wine off the ground

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<v Speaker 1>was truly truly horrible. Like I didn't like blow anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I honestly I might as well have. I

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<v Speaker 1>would have rather actually not thinking back on the things

0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:46.159
<v Speaker 1>I had to do, like going to a meeting with

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<v Speaker 1>like some grocery store and like Ohio and just like

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<v Speaker 1>dancing for them and just being like and then being

0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:53.359
<v Speaker 1>like it's a guy with a head dildo with a wine, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we know about this? We're fucking you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to name. I could probably get in

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<v Speaker 1>so much trouble. I have like eight because now we're

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<v Speaker 1>owned by Anaezer Bush, so they have a media team

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<v Speaker 1>that listens to everything I do. They're like, I take

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<v Speaker 1>a ship and they're like, what's up with that? Tuck?

0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Like a lawyer is calling me, being like, what's up

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:10.159
<v Speaker 1>with Like to be clear that so, I mean, so

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:11.920
<v Speaker 1>it happens when you sell out. But we built it

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<v Speaker 1>brick by fucking brick. We did all the work ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>It's there were no like adults in the room. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like, oh, we like handed it off to the

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<v Speaker 1>grown ups and then we made whacky internet content. We

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<v Speaker 1>did the whole fucking Thingers, did you did you build

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<v Speaker 1>it to sell it? No? I don't think so. And

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, we had gotten other offers from like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like wine companies, and they were going to know

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<v Speaker 1>what to do with the reason we went with Annheuser

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<v Speaker 1>Bush and either Bush approach us in ten So we

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<v Speaker 1>had been doing Babe for like two years and then

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<v Speaker 1>as Bush like they do cool shit, you know, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they fucking you know, they have fucking you know Natty

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<v Speaker 1>and like all these you know they have Bush, they

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<v Speaker 1>do cool stuff. So we were like, we want to

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<v Speaker 1>be the beer of wine. We really do, like we

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:55.920
<v Speaker 1>want that kind of vibe. Um, we want like I

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<v Speaker 1>want some guy in fucking rural Virginia, like some fucking

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<v Speaker 1>toothless party animal drinking fucking pino grig show. That's never

0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:06.160
<v Speaker 1>happened before. So why don't we do that? Why don't

0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:08.320
<v Speaker 1>we bring wine to everybody? We really have been able

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<v Speaker 1>to do that where the official one of the NFL now,

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.639
<v Speaker 1>which is like what an Anheuzer Bushes did that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like been the power of like them being I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you know them being in the room and like

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<v Speaker 1>the people now that are drinking this ship is unbelievable.

0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:22.359
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's I mean, we always had like older

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<v Speaker 1>we always had like like we always had like a

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<v Speaker 1>wide range of democrat They were always older white women

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<v Speaker 1>like drinking our ship being I gotta live your amis

0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:31.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, like don't know what a meme is called.

0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:35.520
<v Speaker 1>But um, now it's just like middle aged men named

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<v Speaker 1>like Rick who were like fuck yeah, like this fucking

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<v Speaker 1>yeah man, what is it? Yeah, we didn't build it

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 1>to sell it. But when ab came along, we were

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<v Speaker 1>like this is fucking perfect because the wine companies weren't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna able to get us into the NFL. And like

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<v Speaker 1>we just became the official sponsor of like Monster Truck Rally.

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<v Speaker 1>So like it's just like you know, for me, you're

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<v Speaker 1>still involved. I'm still involved. That was the deal. The deal. Yes,

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 1>they kept me on and I've been it's been like

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<v Speaker 1>a year and a half now, and like now they

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 1>let me do like my thing, like I now I

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 1>don't have to go to the meetings, like they don't.

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 1>They desperitely do not want me go in the meetings anymore.

0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:07.520
<v Speaker 1>And like Phoenix with like distributors, they have like tons

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 1>of like really smart people who do ship like that

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 1>that like aren't me we got it done. Um, but

0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:15.000
<v Speaker 1>now they let me build like you know, Glory Hollmanicure

0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Trucks and like sponsor fucking you know Monster truck Rally.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a babe monster truck with a woman like

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 1>she's in a full baby uniform and she just like

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 1>straight crush. It's amazing. It's so fucking sick and like

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, guys in all real tree or like crushing

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 1>rose and it's really it's very funny. Um, And I

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>get I get something out of that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the point is, like I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>probably think that I was just there to like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just be like in the banana suit, just being

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 1>like drinking ah while like someone builds it, but we

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 1>really built it. And now I'm trying to pass that

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<v Speaker 1>on because I just like the kids. Really, I get

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 1>bombarded with d ms of just such good ideas. I

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<v Speaker 1>put it out there a lot. I'll be like, who's

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 1>got an idea? Like Shark tank night, you know, like

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm I want to I'm either gonna help you or

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:56.120
<v Speaker 1>give you money, tell me your idea. But what's become

0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:57.879
<v Speaker 1>very clear is that like no one actually they're just

0:24:57.920 --> 0:24:59.879
<v Speaker 1>like here's my fucking idea, And I'm like that's fire.

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<v Speaker 1>But then what what next? Like how do you actually

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:05.879
<v Speaker 1>get started? Like what do you do? You know? Um?

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think I guess now I'm sort of the

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 1>adult in the room and that's really fucking scary, and

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.440
<v Speaker 1>you're about to have a baby. Yeah, so now it's like,

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:15.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't have an official next thing that

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing, but I'm like, really, I've really started moving

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>to the space of like helping the kid, even like

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the influencers, like no one knows how to do deals,

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 1>no one knows how to do anything, like we're old enough.

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:25.960
<v Speaker 1>But like, well, if you thought about starting an agency,

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:28.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I think at one point I thought

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 1>about starting like a VC. But at the moment, my

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of obsession is just like giving tools to like

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:35.159
<v Speaker 1>entrepreneurs and ship honestly like dead ass, which I know

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:38.399
<v Speaker 1>sounds like super but like the people who do that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and again I don't want to name I've gotten it's

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:42.120
<v Speaker 1>just so much hot water for just constantly calling people

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 1>out and I don't want to call people out, like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to name names, but like Gary V,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying people who do this entrepreneurial kind of

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:50.959
<v Speaker 1>ship like they're just like none of it's done right.

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 1>They're just like get out there and like find a

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>baseball card in the gutter and sell it, like get

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<v Speaker 1>off your ass, and like it's also weird and like

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.159
<v Speaker 1>none of it really reson it's and like so and

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<v Speaker 1>I just think everyone fucking wants to do killer Ship

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:05.439
<v Speaker 1>and like nobody wants to work at a normal job anymore.

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 1>And I think that that's fine if in fact you're

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>actually gonna be down to do the hard work. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of like sort of right now just like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like working in that space and like trying

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<v Speaker 1>to help in anyoney, can these kids don't pay me?

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, fuck it, I've given I've already given

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:18.359
<v Speaker 1>away a bunch of money to kids who just had

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:20.160
<v Speaker 1>fire ideas. I was like just keeping in the loop.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll v see it. I'm not even taking a cut.

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I just got lost in your teeth

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 1>for a second. Great Jesus, how much funny did you

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>spend uh setting up the wine business? Do you remember

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:33.639
<v Speaker 1>you're spending all did you say you're spending all your

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 1>own money? Like? What was your initial investment? We bought

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<v Speaker 1>seven so we bought literally like we bought seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars worth of rose from like some guy that's

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<v Speaker 1>some other guy knew in like Central California, like in

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<v Speaker 1>like Meth Country, which I guess also has vineyards, And

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<v Speaker 1>we bought seventy five thousand dollars worth of rose and

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<v Speaker 1>then we flipped it for a hundred and fifty and

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<v Speaker 1>then we like we created a hundred and fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars worth of more rose and just kept on flipping.

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<v Speaker 1>That was it. It was. It was seventy five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars like five dollars of the actual alcohol. What about

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<v Speaker 1>what about the bottling and all that? Where that that

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<v Speaker 1>was a total cost. That was a total cost to

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<v Speaker 1>like buy the juice, put it in the bottle and

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<v Speaker 1>just be like who wants it? And get a separate

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<v Speaker 1>company that would bottle it and spots it. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>had we found like some little Italian man and like

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<v Speaker 1>um again in like Meth Country, you know, somewhere really

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<v Speaker 1>cute just outside Fresno. You know, it's beautiful up there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really beautiful. It was funny when we went to

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<v Speaker 1>our winery the first time, like I'm used to like

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<v Speaker 1>a Hampton's winery, you know, where you're like you're a

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<v Speaker 1>like Channing daughters, and people are like riding tandem bicycles

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<v Speaker 1>and like eating like you know, people eating avocado toast.

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>But we went it looked like a you know Ukrainian

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<v Speaker 1>factory where people work until they die. Yeah, it was horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where our wine game from. So we just like

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<v Speaker 1>found a guy. We just made it work because like

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<v Speaker 1>no one has the answers, That's what I'm saying. Like

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<v Speaker 1>we could have just like turned the keys over to

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<v Speaker 1>some like you know, wine guys, but like they don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the funk they're doing. Nobody knows what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I've learned. Seriously, there are no fucking rules,

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<v Speaker 1>and like I know that's easier said than done. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like not telling you to quit your job, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not telling you to like don't start your like

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<v Speaker 1>CBD Monaco company tomorrow because that maybe a really bad deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what Cebe Monocle is, but like

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta like think this through. But like really, no

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<v Speaker 1>one has all the answers. You can bait, Like if

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<v Speaker 1>I can start a fucking wine company, like you can

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever, right, sure, I mean think about that, I

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<v Speaker 1>started a wine company company, Like anyone can do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point? Is the deal about public? Like how

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<v Speaker 1>much you guys sold for That's the one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>had to be quiet. Yeah, they've let me do a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>a brush lets me do a lot. But you bought

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<v Speaker 1>a cool place in Miami. Yeah, so there's that about

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<v Speaker 1>a sexy about a sexy place in Miami. Yeah. Or

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I can need fucking you know Philadelphia Roles sexy sushi. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, No, it was good. It was good, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think for us it was also more about creative

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<v Speaker 1>control because I didn't want to like just sell it off,

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<v Speaker 1>and like I wasn't trying to like just break out

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<v Speaker 1>and just be like alright, guys, like here you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still like super involved. I mean the company has

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<v Speaker 1>like a hundred employees. That's wild. That's wild. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have to like speak at things like I speak at

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<v Speaker 1>the Anti Oh yeah yeah, not really like I come

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<v Speaker 1>in and I'm just like yeah, like they don't like

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<v Speaker 1>actually listen to me, but they just like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good time. I planned like the Christmas party, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I do certain things that keep it you know, um.

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<v Speaker 1>But I speak at like the Anheuser Bush National Conventions,

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<v Speaker 1>so like, you know, I try to keep it fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm coming out and sucking asseless pink chaps

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, like here's the guy we gave all

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<v Speaker 1>this money to totally. And then I speak to like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, four thousand like distributors from like North Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>who are just like fuck yeah fat you Like they're

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<v Speaker 1>just like, oh ship, they probably hate Jewish people, but

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 1>they love me um. And so you know, they sort

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>of they trapped me out as needed, but it's been

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<v Speaker 1>like really good. They let me do wild Ship, They're

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 1>letting me do you know, They're let me do manicure

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>trucks and whatever I want. Um, So that's fucking cool.

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, like we really I think we purposely kept

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<v Speaker 1>it under wraps that I was like very much involved

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<v Speaker 1>with like the brick brick and like the real like

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>brick on brick like that. That's not a saying, um

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>of like building it brick by brick, but um, because

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want it to. I wasn't gonna be on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram being like yo like rise and grind baby, like

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<v Speaker 1>another day on the grind, like we're at the office.

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, I want to be fun. But

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<v Speaker 1>then now that we've like sort of like I've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gotten some distance from it. I've I've been sort

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<v Speaker 1>of kind of talking about how I actually did the

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<v Speaker 1>work and I'm not as stupid as you thought. Um uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The last thing before you go, uh, when when I

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>asked you to do this podcast, You're like, oh, that's

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>that realistic guy, right, And I said it was. It

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>was called Big Money Energy. What did you think? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you think about the title at all? Or you just

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<v Speaker 1>show up and go where your counter it tells you

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<v Speaker 1>to get No, I thought it was sick. I think

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 1>you do awesome ship. I do. I think almost everyone

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<v Speaker 1>does terrible ship, but you do really really good stuff. Um,

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>which is why? And you know we again, we can

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to say that no, I would open the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We should actually go look for a place. Can you

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>get me on the show? Yeah? Of course that's the

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>only I know. That's the only way you'd ever actually

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 1>buy something if there's content attached to it. Yes, yeah, yeah,

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>they're a good price in the market is totally terrible.

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>It has to be right. Yeah, it's a pandemic because

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>people were like we're going to m against it and

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>like we're gonna pod with into Miami with you. Yes,

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>but like then people like, don't want to be because again,

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<v Speaker 1>like we were talking about before read or maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>were filming the city is I love this. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is really good for New York. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a cultural reset. Don't agree with me, you know what

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>it is? No, I tell everybody like, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>worst thing ever. I'm like, the board has just been

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<v Speaker 1>wiped clean totally. It was going to be slow and

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<v Speaker 1>painful for the next five years or boom, because I'm

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>telling you, man, like I grew up here, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>you just don't see the stuff you like when I

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<v Speaker 1>you just didn't. You don't see the stuff that I

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>saw growing up anymore. And some of that stuff is

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 1>really enriching, you know. You don't see If I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a homeless man on Prince and Bowery, he shipped into

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<v Speaker 1>a suitcase and then he zipped it up and he

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<v Speaker 1>just matter of factly rolled it away, and I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was two o'clock in the afternoon on a Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, and it was in front of

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<v Speaker 1>like some like you know, over priced like brunch spot

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<v Speaker 1>that has now closed, and it's like covered in graffiti.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, this is good. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>we need. This is what New York needs because the

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<v Speaker 1>thing was just getting weird. There you go. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>great way that we should end this. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for coming on, man, you were the best. And

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<v Speaker 1>then and also like, I'm gonna should I read this book?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't read a book in like eleven years? Should I?

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<v Speaker 1>Should this be the first book? I mean like eleven years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll send it to you. Yeah, listen, if anyone who's

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>listening watching has a really really terrible, crappy, shitty idea,

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the fat you has just made a lot of money

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<v Speaker 1>by selling beer wine, and so he'll give you his money.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an idea, santom. Thank you so much for coming,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for having me. If you're ready to take

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<v Speaker 1>action today based on the Fat Jewish is entire blueprint

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>for how he got to where he is. Go to

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<v Speaker 1>Big Money Energy dot com slash podcast to download an

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<v Speaker 1>action plan and I put together for you as well

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<v Speaker 1>as the show notes. That's Big Money Energy dot com

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<v Speaker 1>slash podcast. Find more podcasts like Big Money Energy on

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<v Speaker 1>by Lindsay Hoffman.