1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This is a team that, for whatever reason, just is irrelevant. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: They just seem to kind of spin their wheels and 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: operate in their own little world. Welcome everyone to the 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Monday edition of Fair Territory. We have a lot to 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: get to today. I'm going to talk about a number 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: of different items. Three teams to start the show. One 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: that hasn't done much of anything, one that has done 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: some things but probably not enough, and a third team 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: that just keeps adding and adding and adding. I'm also 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: going to get to my Hall of Fame ballot, my 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: discussion and column today that is about why I voted 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: for CC Sabathia and not Andy Pettitt. And of course 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: we'll get to your questions as well. But I want 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: to start off talking about those three teams, starting with 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: one that a lot of people have asked me about 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: listeners and readers and viewers in the past couple of weeks. 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: Why hasn't this team done enough? Or why hasn't this 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: team done much of anything? Really, I'm talking, of course, 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: about the Atlanta Braves. There's a team that started off 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 1: the offseason cutting payroll. If you remember, they traded Jje 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: Sohilaire to the Angels declined, Travis Darnault's option, restructured, the 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: contracts of Aaron Bummer and Ronaldo Lopez non tendered, Rama Lareano, 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: and Griffin Canning. And this is all on top of 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: not bringing back Max Fried and Charlie Morton. The expectation 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: was that the Braves would just kind of restructure things 26 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: a little bit, and they had a little bit of 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: an unusual scenario as well, because they know that Spencer 28 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: Streyder their ace, and Ronald Acuna Junior, their best position player, 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: will not be ready to start the season, and yet 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: the Braves have done really nothing. They've added Brian Delacruz 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: on a split contract, but that's about it. So what's 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: going on here? Why haven't they the Atlanta Braves, a 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: team that normally is aggressive, done more this offseason. Well, 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: it kind of goes back to Strider and Acunya a 35 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: little bit. Streider is someone who is coming off obviously 36 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: a major injury, but at the same time the Braves, 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: he has told them that he's going to be ready 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: for spring training. He's going to have a normal spring, 39 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: he's going to pitch in games, and while he probably 40 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: won't be ready for the start of the season, he 41 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: won't be ready for the start of the season. He 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: might return sooner rather than later. So let's look at 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: the Braves rotation how it shapes up for opening day 44 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: as of right now without Strider, because it's still a 45 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: pretty good group when you look at it, headed by 46 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: the National League, say young winner Chris Sale, you see 47 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: it right there, Sale, Ronaldo Lopez, Spencer Schwellenbach coming off 48 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: that great rookie year, Grant Holmes who they are really 49 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: high on, and Ian Anderson coming off surgery. Who knows 50 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: what he'll be, but at one time for the Atlanta Braves, 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: he was pretty good in the twenty twenty playoffs and 52 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: they expect that he can at least be a number 53 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: five starter. And then when Stryder comes back, the group 54 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: looks even stronger. In my estimation, they still need one 55 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: more just to protect themselves, but that's where they stand now. 56 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: With Akunya, it's sort of similar. If you go back 57 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: to Acunya's first knee injury. He injured himself around the 58 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: All Star break. That's when he had his surgery and 59 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: came back the following April April twenty eighth. If you 60 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: follow the same timeline, now that he has the opposite 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: in the same injury he got hurt last season in 62 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: the end of May, so theoretically he's six weeks ahead 63 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: of where he was the last time. He came back 64 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: April twenty eighth last time, should be ready for opening 65 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: day this time. By that timeline, if you're following the 66 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: same path, well, they're not going to rush him. They're 67 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: going to take their time because if you remember last time, 68 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: he wasn't right. Even though he came back, he really 69 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: wasn't right that whole season. So the expectation with Acunya 70 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: is that he too will be back sooner rather than later, 71 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: not to start the season, but maybe early May. Something 72 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: along those lines, borrowing those setbacks. So when you're looking 73 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: for an outfielder, as the Braves are, it's got to 74 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: be a guy who can fill in for like a 75 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: month and then accept a backup role. Those aren't guys 76 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: who are necessarily jumping at offers right now. Those are 77 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: guys who are seeing if they can get something better, 78 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: and then if they have to take what the Braves 79 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: are offering, they will. The Braves, of course, also lost 80 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: Joe Jimenez for pretty much the season, and they need 81 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: to replace him. He's one of their valuable late ending relievers, 82 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: and I do expect they will sign a reliever. So 83 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: that is why the Braves aren't really active or haven't 84 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: been that active. They'd still like to add a starter, 85 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: and they'd like to add a good starter, someone that 86 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: could start a playoff game. But to this point, nothing 87 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: in their minds has arisen that's satisfied what they are 88 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: looking for and what they were willing to pay in 89 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: trade or free agency. All right, that's the Atlanta Braves. 90 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: Now let's get to a team that signed one of 91 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: the former Atlanta Braves pitchers just the other day. I'm 92 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: talking about the Baltimore Orioles. Now, the Orioles started the 93 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: off season knowing that they were going to either lose 94 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: Corbin Burns that was the likely scenario, or need to 95 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: replace him with a front of the rotation starter. They 96 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: have not acquired a front of the rotation starter. They've 97 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: picked up two pitchers, one of whom is thirty f 98 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: Tomoyuki Sugano. The other, Charlie Morton, is forty one. Now 99 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: they have a number of rotation options and we can 100 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: take a look. Now, it's a lot of guys. I 101 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: don't know if it's good enough guys. Let's put it 102 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: that way. You start off with Grayson Rodriguez and Zach 103 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: Eflin at the top, that's pretty good, then Segano and 104 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: Morton and Dean Kramer. Albert Suarez was pretty good in 105 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: twenty five starts last year. He can be a swingman. 106 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: Kyle Bradish and Tyler Wells coming off surgeries, maybe they'll 107 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: be ready in the second half. I don't know that 108 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: you can count on Kyle Bradish being an ace coming 109 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: off an elbow reconstruction, so you have to be really 110 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: kind of cautious about the way you look at it. 111 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: And then the group on the right, Chase McDermott, Kate Povich, 112 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: Trevor Rodgers, Brandon Young. These are guys with minor league options, 113 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: guys who could fill in at some point. Could the 114 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: Orioles still make a move, Yes, they could. They could 115 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: conceivably trade for a Dylan Ceze, Luis Castillo or someone 116 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: else who might spring free. But while they're still looking 117 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: for upgrades in both trades and free agency. I would 118 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: not be surprised if their next move is for a 119 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: reliever and that they kind of go into camp with 120 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: this rotation as it stands, Ideally you want one more. 121 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: But it gets to the point also when you've already 122 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: added Sigano and Morton, that you're backing up the younger guys. 123 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: You're blocking them off. And I don't know that the 124 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: Orioles want to do that. So they're in an interesting spot. 125 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: They're in a weak American league. They're a team with 126 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: an extremely talented group of young position players. In my thought, 127 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: they haven't done enough. Tyler O'Neil. Okay, he effectively replaces Santander. 128 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: Let's hope he stays healthy for the Oriol's sake. Gary 129 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: Sanchez backup catcher. Fine, the two pitchers, and they are 130 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: still going, still trying to do some things. The Yankees are, 131 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: in my view right now, clearly the class of the 132 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: American League. A lot of the other teams have gone 133 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: backwards or have not done much. The Orioles have an 134 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: opportunity here, and the way I see it, they are 135 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: kind of letting it go to waste. They need to 136 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: do more now. Maybe it's at the deadline, but the 137 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: deadline opportunities are going to be difficult as well. There'll 138 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: be competition for the starting pitchers, and who knows where 139 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: that's going to go. So the Orioles, all right, they've 140 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: done some things, but again the way I see it, 141 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: not enough. And finally, let's talk about the Los Angeles Dodgers. 142 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: The Dodgers, it seems add a player a week, if 143 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: not more, the latest being the infielder from Korea, Haishank Kim, 144 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: who is going to be a guy that they project 145 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: as a utility man, someone who will play kind of 146 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: all around the infield, middle infield, I should say, and 147 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: they have with him now coming aboard a glut of 148 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: middle infield options. Assuming as they have told us that 149 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: they're going to keep Mookie Bets at shortstop. Let's look 150 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: at this list of players, because it seems to me 151 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: a trade is coming somewhere. Mookie Bets at short Hi 152 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: Sean Kim, we talked about him. Gavin Lux good second 153 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: half at second base. The Dodgers still like him. B 154 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: Gail Rojas, He of course can be a utility guy. 155 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: Edmund most likely will be in center field given the 156 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: way they are currently set up. Chris Taylor, I don't 157 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: know if he has a place on this team the 158 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: way they are looking right now. So could the Dodgers 159 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: trade Lux at some point, Yes, I imagine they could. 160 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: Could they get rid of Taylor, Yes, they could do 161 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: that too. Could they move Betts back to the outfield. 162 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: These are all things that they can consider. As usual, 163 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: the Dodgers have options upon options upon options. It's going 164 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: to be fascinating to see how they organize this all 165 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: and sort through all of the different players they have 166 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: in the middle, infield, in the rotation, and ultimately in 167 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: the bullpen too. 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And this week I 193 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: want to talk about my Hall of Fame ballot, and 194 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: specifically the column I wrote for The Athletic on Monday, 195 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: kind of detailing the most interesting choice that I had 196 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: this year, at least the way I saw it. Now, First, 197 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: I want to show you my ballot. I did not 198 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: vote for ten this year. I voted for only seven, 199 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: and there is a maximum of ten that each voter 200 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: can choose, but you are not required to vote for ten. 201 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: So these were my choices for this year. Of course, 202 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: we start with Ichiro Suzuki. These are an alphabetical order, 203 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: but each row making his first appearance on the ballot, 204 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: he is a no brainer to me. I hope he 205 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: is one hundred percent. My other choices Carlos Beltron, Andrew Jones, 206 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: Jimmy Rollins, C. C. Sabathia, Chase Utley, and Billy Wagner. 207 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: Now you can argue, Ken, why aren't you voting for ten? 208 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: This generation of players is underrepresented. Hey, we need more 209 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: Hall of Famers. This is a fair criticism of the 210 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: voting patterns in recent years. I don't want to say 211 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: that I'm a strict small Hall of Fame guy, but 212 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: I do worry about maintaining standards and keeping the Hall 213 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: as something that is a tribute to the great players 214 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: and not the Hall of very good. Which leads me 215 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: to the biggest question I had this year on my bout, 216 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: the one that I was troubled most by. And you 217 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: see it right there. Y C. C. Sabathie received my 218 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame vote this year. Whoops, I didn't do 219 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: the tweet very good and Andy Pettitt did not. So 220 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: I went through this in the column and I'll start 221 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: off by saying the most difficult thing as a voter 222 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: that I find is comparing players with similar statistics, comparing 223 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: players who might have been teammates and kind of joined 224 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: together in the public mind. Last year, if you recall, 225 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: I wrote about why I was voting for Jimmy Rollins, 226 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: who was making his third appearance on the ballot, but 227 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: who I had not voted for previously, along with Chase Utley, 228 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: and my reasoning basically was I didn't want to see 229 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: another Trammel Whittaker situation develop. Trammell got in through a 230 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: veterans committee, Whittaker fell off the ballot right away. To me, 231 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: they are two great players, both Hall of famers. You 232 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: can make the case that Utley and Rollins are not 233 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: Hall of Famers, there are strong arguments against, but I 234 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: just felt Utley was and Rollins, upon further review, you 235 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: can certainly justify his selection as well. So this year 236 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: with Sabathia and Pettit it's different. Yes, there were teammates 237 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: with the Yankees for five seasons, I believe, but really 238 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: the question the difficulty here is that their statistics, some 239 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: of them, at least for their career, are so similar. 240 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: And I want to show you what I'm talking about here. 241 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: And these are just three categories that I'm going to 242 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: look at to start with. And I know when you 243 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: start talking about wins, people say wins don't matter. Okay, 244 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: we get that, we all understand that wins no longer 245 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: have the value that writers once assigned. But let's look 246 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: at the comparison between Sabathia and Pettit and I'll show 247 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: you what I mean. Those win totals two hundred and 248 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: fifty one for Sabathia, two hundred and fifty six for Pettit. 249 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: You might think they mean nothing, but guess what. We 250 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: might never see a guy get two hundred and fifty again, 251 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm serious about that. Look at the career numbers of 252 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: the active pitchers not happening. Verlander is at two sixty two. 253 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: No one else is even close. E A plus. This 254 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: is a stat that I use quite frequently. I like lot. 255 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: It accounts for era, but when adjusted to league and 256 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: park factors, when you look at that Andy Pettitt seventeen 257 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: percent above league average, c C Sabathia sixteen percent above 258 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: league average, and when you look at the career be 259 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: War very comparable. You see Sabathia and Petit, they're really indistinguishable, 260 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: and the same is true in f War. Now, I 261 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: don't look at war all that seriously for pictures because 262 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: they're rated in different ways. I just don't love it 263 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: as a stat for pitchers as much as I do 264 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: for position players. Okay, so why Sabbathia and not Petit. 265 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: Pettitt did some great things in his career. The postseason 266 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: record two hundred and seventy six postseason innings that is 267 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: an all time mark in Major League Baseball. Yes, he 268 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: got more opportunities because he played for the Yankees and 269 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: three seasons with the Astros, but his postseason the RA 270 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: three point eight one nearly matches his regular season in 271 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: the era. He was a very good postseason pitcher for 272 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: the most part, had some really big moments, and beyond that, 273 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: had a great pickoff movies. You see right there. He 274 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: was a guy that made three All Star teams. He 275 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: certainly was an outstanding pitcher in his time. So to me, though, 276 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: the entire package just isn't quite there. And I look 277 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: at Pettit's three All Star teams c C. Sabathia made 278 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: six c C Sabathia from two thousand and seven to 279 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, won a cy Young Award and finished in 280 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: the top five in the four other years. That's five 281 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: straight years of top five finishes. Pettitt never won a 282 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: cy Young, highest finished was second, had a few other 283 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: top fives, but wasn't ever thought of really as the 284 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: best pitcher in his league. C. C. Sabathia was. If 285 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: you remember C. C. Sabathi in two thousand and eight 286 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: his trade to the Milwaukee Brewers, his incredible performance down 287 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: the stretch, won a number of times he pitched on 288 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: three days rest. He was the guy who carried them 289 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: to their first playoff appearance in twenty six years. Now, 290 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: his postseason resume is not as good as Pettits. He 291 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: hasn't had or didn't have the same kind of era. 292 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't as good period, didn't have as many opportunities either, 293 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: But as I suggest in the column, he carried such 294 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: heavy workloads through the regular season quite often that perhaps 295 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: that affected his postseason performance. Certainly did in eight when 296 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: he made a fourth straight start on three days rest 297 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: in the Division Series against the Phillies and did not 298 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: pitch terribly well at all. Three and two thirds innings, 299 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: five runs something along those lines. So I kind of 300 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: give him a pass for that. Now, some people might say, well, 301 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: pet It, he had the ped situation, admitted to using 302 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: human growth hormone in both two thousand and two and 303 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Some voters probably will ding him 304 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: for that. I do not ding players who had some 305 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: kind of performance enhancing drug issue before Major League Baseball 306 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: established firm rules and penalties. I don't vote for Alex 307 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: Rodriguez and many Ramirez because after the fact, after those 308 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: penalties and rules were established, they still cheated. Okay, that's 309 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: my view of that. So some people might look at 310 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: Pettit that way and say, ah, not for me, But 311 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that that is what's holding him back. 312 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: He hasn't done well so far in the voting. This 313 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: is his sixth appearance on the ballot. He has not 314 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: gone higher than seventeen percent with seventy five percent required, 315 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: and he regressed last year from seventeen percent to thirteen 316 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: point five percent. Now, if you look at the Hall 317 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: of Fame tracker, which Ryan Thibadeau does every year, it's 318 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: such an invaluable resource for us this time of year, 319 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: just to see how players are trending. Sabbathia is tracking 320 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: really well and Petit not so well. So it seems 321 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: that most of the voters, at least the ones who 322 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: have admitted their ballots publicly so far, agree with me. 323 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: But again, if Sabathia gets in, and it looks like 324 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: he might indeed get in on the first ballot, then 325 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: it seems to me voters are going to have to 326 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: take a closer look at Pettit, voters like myself and say, well, 327 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: if Sabathia is in, why not Petit. These are the 328 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: questions that, again, are so difficult when you are a voter. 329 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: And I'm not suggesting this is a tortuous process or 330 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: anything like that. It's actually a fun process. It's a 331 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: lot of fun to compare players and try to figure 332 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: out which ones belong and which ones maybe don't. But 333 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: it is difficult separating guys I mentioned in the column 334 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: earlier in my career in the two thousands, Burt Bly eleven, 335 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: Tommy John Jim Kott very comparable career numbers. I didn't 336 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: vote for any of them for the longest time. Eventually 337 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: I did vote for bl eleven because I felt the 338 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: arguments advanced by sabermetricians really distinguished him as a candidate 339 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: that was worthy. I didn't vote for the other guys. 340 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: Jim Cott eventually got in by a veteran's committee. Tommy 341 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: John is still not in. To me, it's all or nothing. 342 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: With those three they all should be in or none 343 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: should be in. And with Blyleven certainly deserving, and Cod 344 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: as well, with all those gold gloves and the way 345 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: he pitched over the years, seems to me Tommy John, 346 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: who was the first pitcher to have a surgery that 347 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: transformed the sport, should be in as well. But once more, 348 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: this is the kind of comparison that makes things difficult. 349 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: And last year for me, Sabbathia and pettit this year. 350 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: One last thing. I always stress this when it comes 351 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame ballot, and I mention this 352 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: pretty much in every column I write about it. I'm 353 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: not closed minded, I'm not rigid. I'm not saying because 354 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: I do it this year, I might do it that 355 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: way next year. I kind of give the ballot a 356 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: fresh look each year, and I say, okay, well, let's 357 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: look at this group of players and judge them and 358 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: figure out which ones are deserving. Because I vote for 359 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: one player one year doesn't mean I'll vote for him 360 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: the following year, though That's generally not something I do. 361 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: Once I vote for a guy, I generally do vote 362 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: for him. More frequently I have players that I don't 363 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: vote for, and then eventually I come around to Pettit 364 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: certainly could be that guy for me or one of 365 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: those guys. Again, I'm not suggesting that what I said, 366 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: or what I wrote, or how I voted was right 367 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: or wrong. Everyone has their own opinions here. Everyone is 368 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: entitled to their own opinions. And as I said in 369 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: the column, as I concluded in the column, to tell 370 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: you the truth here torn about the whole Sabbathia Pettit issue. 371 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: Time now for Grill and Ken. Let's get to your questions. 372 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: First question comes from Roughhouse, who asks is there a 373 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: chance that the Blue Jays will shop vlad Junior before 374 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: opening Day? Rough House, the answer is no, at least 375 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: based on everything they have said publicly so far. The 376 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: Blue Jays have been rather adamant that they are going 377 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: into this season with both Vladimir Guerrero Junior and Bo Baschett, 378 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: even though both are eligible for free agency, at the 379 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: end of the season, and the Blue Jays stand to 380 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: get only draft picks in return. I have questioned this idea. 381 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: To me, they need to supplement their farm system, which 382 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: is not very good, and the fact that they have 383 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: not signed Guerrero or Burshett indicates to me that they 384 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: are not going to sign Guerrero or Burshett, though they 385 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: have been negotiating with Guerrero. As I've reported the Blue Jays, 386 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: they are a team that clearly wants to spend money, 387 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: wants to be good this year. They've got Russ Atkins 388 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: and Mark Shapiro, their two leading executives, kind of under scrutiny, 389 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: at least from the public. I don't know if ownership 390 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: is looking at them the same way. But they're entering 391 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: the final years of contracts and certainly they are trying 392 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: to win. That is the impression that they're giving. So 393 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: they're still trying to add rather than subtract. Add An 394 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: Anthony Santan, Derek perhaps who knows, and Alex Bregman. But 395 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: this is a team that is kind of going all 396 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: in in twenty twenty five, or at least not pulling back. 397 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: I don't expect them to Tray Guerrero before the season starts. 398 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: If they fall out of it, maybe at the deadline. 399 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: Next question comes from Mike, who asks what's next for 400 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: the Giants. They have been pretty quiet since the Willie 401 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: Adamas signing. You're absolutely right, Mike, they have they need 402 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: another starting pitcher, and they need some kind of offensive player. 403 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: That offensive player could be Pete Alonso, who would fit 404 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: in that ballpark. I don't know that the Giants are 405 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: terribly interested in going there, and they could use a 406 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: starting pitcher, maybe someone along the lines of Jack Flaherty. 407 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: They've already lost their second and fifth picks for signing 408 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: a damis make the case that they should keep going 409 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: for qualifying offer. Guys blow up their entire draft. The 410 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: next qualifying offer free agent, if they signed one, would 411 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: cost them the third and sixth pick. Granted, you're losing picks. 412 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: It's not great, but to contend in the National League West, 413 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: which has gotten better this offseason with the Dodgers doing 414 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: what they've done with the Diamondbacks adding Corbyn Burns, the 415 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: Padres have kind of been stagnant, but I still expect 416 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: them to do some things. If you're the Giants, what 417 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: they've done so far not enough. Finally, the last question 418 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: from Jacob, who asks, why does it seem like that 419 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: in every conversation about teams that lack ambition or don't 420 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: do much, the Rockies always get a free pass to 421 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: avoid responsibility. It's even more egregious because their owner is 422 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: always on labor relations committees. Jacob, I gave this one 423 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: some thought, or I've given this one some thought over 424 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: the last I don't know, a year or so. Back 425 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, the spring of twenty twenty one, 426 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: I combined with a writer from The Athletic, Nick Roke, 427 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: on a long story worry about the Rockies and their 428 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: ownership and at the time their general manager, Jeff Bridage. 429 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: That was three years ago. I really haven't written much 430 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: about them since, and I can only speak for myself here, 431 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: but you're right, no one in the media is really 432 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: going after the Rockies. And you're right also perhaps we should. 433 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: This is a team that, for whatever reason, just is irrelevant. 434 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: Well you know the reason. The reason is they just 435 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: seem to kind of spin their wheels and operate in 436 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: their own little world without regard to what else is 437 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: going on in the sport, and rarely are they even 438 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: competitive now? They have an interesting group of young players coming, 439 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: but every team can say that, And with the Rockies, 440 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: you just wonder if they're ever going to put it 441 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: together in a logical, methodical way. So far hasn't happened, 442 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: at least in the last time I don't know, ten 443 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: years or so. Do they warrant further examination? Yes, I 444 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: believe they do, and maybe it's something I should get 445 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: on the spring or I don't know, some point this season. 446 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: Because we do look at other teams rather critically, the 447 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: White Sox, the Pirates, all of these other teams that 448 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: are kind of in this weird place, they do warrant 449 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: and receive criticism. The Rockies because they're so irrelevant, seemingly 450 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: escape and yeah, they are deserving of a better look, 451 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: a more intense look, no question. I want to thank 452 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: everyone for their questions, everyone for watching, for listening. 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