WEBVTT - THE OTP: Steve Underwood's Exit Interview

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<v Speaker 1>We welcome you to the Official Titans Podcast, brought to

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<v Speaker 1>protecting Tennessee And since nineteen forty seven. And he hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been protecting Tennessee And since nineteen forty seven, but he

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<v Speaker 1>did it for a long time in many roles, the

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<v Speaker 1>last of which the president and CEO of this organization

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<v Speaker 1>until just days ago. Steve Underwood, your exit interview on

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<v Speaker 1>the Official Titans Podcast, We welcome. I'm looking forward to it, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>and thanks to our friends at Farm Bureau. That's good stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So we have done interviews with you in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, and we've talked about so much history, and

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<v Speaker 1>if people haven't listened to your ot from twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>we certainly want to encourage them to do that because

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<v Speaker 1>the talk of the move and everything that went with

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<v Speaker 1>it is fascinating, particularly as we enter sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>second stage of the Titans, going into the second generation.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to talk about the most recent incarnation

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<v Speaker 1>of your time with the team and how fascinating. It

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<v Speaker 1>is from the standpoint you retire in two thousand eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>you head back to Texas. You love retirement. Things are

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<v Speaker 1>going well, Texas is good, and life is good, and

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<v Speaker 1>everything's going well, and then in two and fifteen the

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<v Speaker 1>phone starts ringing. Did you consider turning it down? And

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<v Speaker 1>did you think you'd be here five years? I never

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily considered turning it down. I did go to my wife,

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<v Speaker 1>Francis and asked her if she was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>okay with it. Of course, what I've to her, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>was what Amy had pitched me, which was a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months. Francis and I had or I had had

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<v Speaker 1>a project under the way for many years, which was

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<v Speaker 1>to buy a brand new Corvette and take delivery of

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<v Speaker 1>it at the assembly facility and boweling brain, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had put aside the money. It had taken me many

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<v Speaker 1>many years to save the money for the car, and

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<v Speaker 1>because we still had children at home and still going

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<v Speaker 1>to college, I had never committed money to buy the car.

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<v Speaker 1>And Francis said, I'll go along with it, see if

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<v Speaker 1>you'll go ahead, and the order year of car wow,

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<v Speaker 1>which I did, and we she and I picked it

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<v Speaker 1>up in July, after I had started work in Nashville

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<v Speaker 1>in March. Actually started to believe it or not, Mike

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<v Speaker 1>at the NFL's annual owner meetings, which that year were

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<v Speaker 1>in Phoenix at the Billmore and that's where my first

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<v Speaker 1>day on the job was. Of course, I know most

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<v Speaker 1>of all those people I knew, and many of them

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<v Speaker 1>remembered me from other clubs and from the league office

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. Then it was several months later and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, Hey, we're still going through the transition. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you mind staying through the end of the season That

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<v Speaker 1>would have been the twenty fifteen regular season. And again

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<v Speaker 1>I consulted with Francis and we were okay with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But all that time I was trying to help them

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<v Speaker 1>look for someone to be their permanent resident in charge

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<v Speaker 1>executive in charge. And from time to time I would

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<v Speaker 1>send them lists and resumes and this guy might be good,

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<v Speaker 1>you might want to interview this guy, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>never hear anything back from an After several months of that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was still sending things, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of cut off for foreclosed further discussion of

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<v Speaker 1>it by saying, well, could you stay through the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, so we put all that on the hole,

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<v Speaker 1>the search for someone permanent, and kept working on the

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<v Speaker 1>projects that we were trying to address. Now, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to hit something personally about you before we move forward.

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<v Speaker 1>I would bet that the thought about a Corvette started

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<v Speaker 1>when you were a young man coming from You don't

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<v Speaker 1>come from royalty, as you mentioned on many occasions. You

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<v Speaker 1>come from most humble beginnings, right, And many people in

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<v Speaker 1>this country have who have come from humble beginnings have

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<v Speaker 1>a car dream. We are the land of cars. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>they were invented here, and so that that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>factored into the process, is that this had been a

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<v Speaker 1>lifelong dream? Correct? Oh? Well, in high school I worked

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<v Speaker 1>at a gas pumping gas, which is something, of course

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<v Speaker 1>people don't do anymore except in the state of New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was pumping gas and making dollar and a

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<v Speaker 1>quarter an hour, and there was a guy in town

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<v Speaker 1>who had a silver steam Ray of the fastback model

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty three, and I became just totally enamored

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<v Speaker 1>of his car. And then from that point on, every

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<v Speaker 1>time I would see a Corvette while I was I

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<v Speaker 1>would get at least a little excited and became more

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<v Speaker 1>and more in love with the car over time, and

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<v Speaker 1>then finally, some time in the mid eighties, I started

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<v Speaker 1>a secret slush fund to buy a Corvette. I eventually

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<v Speaker 1>told Francis about it after I had a few thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in it, and some weeks I was not able

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<v Speaker 1>to save anything. Other weeks I would stay, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a few dollars. So the savings process for the car

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<v Speaker 1>lasted almost thirty years, and over that time I built

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<v Speaker 1>up enough money to actually buy the car. But by

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<v Speaker 1>then I had two kids at Baylor, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was a little concerned about making sure that we could

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<v Speaker 1>pay for all that. Our son was still living up

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<v Speaker 1>until twenty eleven, so I had had that concern as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But all of those things were pretty much taken care

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<v Speaker 1>of by the time I went back to work, and

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<v Speaker 1>my wife had pity on me and said, we'll go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and order the car and then I'll be okay

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Got I think it's an important part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Steve Underwood story, though, because where you come from,

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<v Speaker 1>how you came up with mister Adams, how hard you

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<v Speaker 1>had to work, how you advanced through the organization, and

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you would save in that way tells

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about your story, which is why I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to bring it out, and I think it also tells

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<v Speaker 1>why she picked up the phone and called you at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, because when you walked back into Saint Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Parks, mess Let's face it. So let me ask you,

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment you walked back into the office in

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<v Speaker 1>the spring of twenty fifteen, what were the first things

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<v Speaker 1>that had to be addressed to get the taiton straight.

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<v Speaker 1>Of all the concerns that Aby and I had at

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<v Speaker 1>that moment in time, the biggest one to me was

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<v Speaker 1>what I was described as among our staff, a sort

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<v Speaker 1>of deep, abiding concern about the direction the team was

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<v Speaker 1>going and our future outlook as an NFL club. Mister

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<v Speaker 1>Adams had passed away, but people there really never gotten

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<v Speaker 1>much of a chance to interact with Tommy and Susie.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy became with the president immediately after mister Adams's death,

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<v Speaker 1>and Susie was controlling owner. We had a relatively new

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<v Speaker 1>head coach in ken wizen Hunt. Now we had another

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<v Speaker 1>new owner that no one really knew, an interim president

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<v Speaker 1>who had just finished being retired for over three years.

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<v Speaker 1>Had to try to be constructive about it. Had not

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<v Speaker 1>really had very competitive football teams for a number of years.

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<v Speaker 1>All those things I think weight on the staff. On

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<v Speaker 1>top of that, there was an owner who seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>be inexperienced about what to do about an NFL team.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you understand this, Mike, and many of our listeners

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<v Speaker 1>will understand. NFL teams changing hands sends a very difficult

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<v Speaker 1>message to your staff because new owners do things like

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<v Speaker 1>fire everybody in sight and start over again. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think there was this sort of overlay among all of

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<v Speaker 1>the people on the football and business side about Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what does all this mean for us and for our families?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are we going and who are these leaders and

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<v Speaker 1>what do we know about them? But to me, the

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<v Speaker 1>single largest concern was getting our staff on board with

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<v Speaker 1>what was going to happen and having a program that

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<v Speaker 1>they could be leaving and could trust, because those are

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<v Speaker 1>the things that make for successful organizations. But that was

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest, single problem in resetting this thing and gaining stability.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably the most important factor to me was people getting

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<v Speaker 1>to know Amy Adam Strunk and for the league totally

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<v Speaker 1>and for everybody. I mean, it seems like that is

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<v Speaker 1>the real story of her success Over five years. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that once people got to know or whether it was

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<v Speaker 1>other owners, whether it was the NFL office, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was our fan base, whether it was the staff, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make any difference. Once that was in place, things

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<v Speaker 1>started to stabilize. Was that the key people getting to

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<v Speaker 1>know her, oh totally. You know, getting to know her

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<v Speaker 1>or anyone else for that matter, is a process that

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<v Speaker 1>takes time. It's just like restoring the confidence of our staff.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to work at any getting exposure because, as

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<v Speaker 1>you suggest, once people get an opportunity to meet her,

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<v Speaker 1>see how down to earth and friendly she is, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, and again without trying to cast as

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<v Speaker 1>versions was those were not necessarily qualities that mister Adams had,

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<v Speaker 1>but his daughter has them richly. So getting exposure to

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<v Speaker 1>the league's staff to lead officials to our own employees

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<v Speaker 1>who never really had much way to know anything about Annie.

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<v Speaker 1>My view has always been that mister Adams left the

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<v Speaker 1>impression and with other owners, that he suspected his children

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<v Speaker 1>would sell the team, and I have reason to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that that's the impression that he intended to leave. But

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<v Speaker 1>as it turned out, Annie had no intention at all

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<v Speaker 1>of so neither did Kenneth and his family for that matter.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted to be successful in our business and make

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<v Speaker 1>a name in a mark for themselves, which is very understandable.

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<v Speaker 1>And once it became clear to everyone that Amy was

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<v Speaker 1>not going to sell, by the way, another process that

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<v Speaker 1>took some time. There were a lot of non believers

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<v Speaker 1>about all that. But once they became convinced not only

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<v Speaker 1>that she wasn't selling, but that she was going to

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever was necessary to be successful in our business

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<v Speaker 1>on and off the field. As you can see, not

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<v Speaker 1>only with our business and with our football, with the

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<v Speaker 1>draft and with improvements at Nissan Stadium and all of

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<v Speaker 1>the other things that have happened, to say nothing of

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<v Speaker 1>our playoff run last year, they became believers in aiming.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was probably the greatest single thing that happened

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<v Speaker 1>during that time period that she made the impression on

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<v Speaker 1>people that it was not time to give up on us,

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<v Speaker 1>it was time to double them. In her time owners,

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<v Speaker 1>she's gone from being an unknown figure almost in oiler history.

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<v Speaker 1>Fairly or unfairly, she was not known by many people

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<v Speaker 1>to where she now has a position of prominence not

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<v Speaker 1>only in this community, but she has an amount of

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<v Speaker 1>respect around the league that most owners don't have as you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm surprised some business school hasn't studied it because

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<v Speaker 1>it really is quite a case study. Why is she

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<v Speaker 1>so good at this? What is it about her that

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<v Speaker 1>allowed her to come from such a different business and

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<v Speaker 1>step into this and do this so well? There are

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<v Speaker 1>at least two or three things, in my opinion. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, Amy has remarkably good instincts about our business.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you sit down an interview five executives who

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<v Speaker 1>have made their own mark in the NFL as player

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<v Speaker 1>personnel directors are in charge of scouting departments, our assistant GM,

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<v Speaker 1>and pick the one person. I'm not saying there weren't

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<v Speaker 1>other people in that group who couldn't have been a GM,

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<v Speaker 1>because Chris Ballard has done a great job at Indianapolis.

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<v Speaker 1>But Amy's decision about John was the product, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>of having great instincts, not necessarily about football, but about people.

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<v Speaker 1>She's very good, I think at reading people, not just

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<v Speaker 1>John Robinson, but all of us. She's very insightful in

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<v Speaker 1>that way. I think another gift of Amy's is that

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<v Speaker 1>she has great and good common sense. She does the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing for the right reason. Almost every time. That

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't exist in every owner that I've ever met. Amy

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<v Speaker 1>is more a student of people and more trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get to know and understand them, and has the ability,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not commonplace Mike, to pick out great people

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<v Speaker 1>from a crowd. Those are some of the qualities that

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<v Speaker 1>I so admired her. It seems like two. She has

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<v Speaker 1>something that a lot of you Texans seem to be

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<v Speaker 1>quite proud of. She has quite a bs meeter. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>she has a be She can identify it from a

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<v Speaker 1>from a good ways away. And I almost always return

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<v Speaker 1>to this because it's been such an important part of

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<v Speaker 1>the five years that I've been back. John's hiring is

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<v Speaker 1>a great piece of our history and one of Amy's

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<v Speaker 1>boldest moves as an owner. We had assembled a great

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<v Speaker 1>group of candidates, you know. Martin Mayhew was in that group,

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<v Speaker 1>still an executive with forty nine ers, Chris Ballard, who

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<v Speaker 1>is a general manager of great standing in his own right,

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<v Speaker 1>and we spent three or four hours with each of

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<v Speaker 1>the five or six men that he interviewed. Kenneth was

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<v Speaker 1>also in the room, I might add, but when it

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<v Speaker 1>was over, John Bull, I mean, Amy believed that John

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<v Speaker 1>was the best choice, and her instincts had proven to

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<v Speaker 1>be sound, I think is a good word. So picking

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<v Speaker 1>someone out of a group like that, that's a quality that's,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, Mike pretty rare. And while her dad

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<v Speaker 1>did from time to time exhibit a good instinct. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he hired Mike Halliback when Mike was seventy four years old.

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<v Speaker 1>That was another kind of bold thing. I thought Mike

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<v Speaker 1>had worked kind of behind the scenes and labored in

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<v Speaker 1>obscurity for all those many years. Not two other football executives,

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<v Speaker 1>but to the league in general, most most everyone knew

0:15:56.120 --> 0:16:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Michael was a superb football talented later, but getting to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to pass judgment on someone with just three

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<v Speaker 1>or four hours together with them, and you know, John

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really have what I would consider to be you

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<v Speaker 1>use the term bs. He doesn't really mence a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of words about That isn't something that he does. He

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<v Speaker 1>thinks about what his position is, he tries to gather

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<v Speaker 1>as much information as he can, and he makes a decision.

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<v Speaker 1>And he has never tried to lay behind the log

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<v Speaker 1>with me. In our conversations and discussions, they've been very

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<v Speaker 1>direct and very candid, And those are qualities that great

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<v Speaker 1>general managers into it. You immediately put together a team

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<v Speaker 1>of people that you work with on an executive level.

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<v Speaker 1>When you came back at twenty and twenty fifteen and

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<v Speaker 1>you had what you called strategic imperatives, Yes, what were

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<v Speaker 1>the strategic imperatives and why are they important for the

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<v Speaker 1>Titans to establish those? Even if they aren't as sexy

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<v Speaker 1>as trading the first round pick and picking Jack Conklin

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that, But you were trying to lay

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<v Speaker 1>down some things from the business side that would improve

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<v Speaker 1>things strategically and for the fan base. Yes, every executive,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're with the NFL or xon Mobile or the

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<v Speaker 1>flower shop down the street, needs to have a set

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<v Speaker 1>of super priorities that relate to the future of the business.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we need to look at or work on

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<v Speaker 1>to be successful, not just now, but five years from now,

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<v Speaker 1>ten years from now. What we do now and what

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<v Speaker 1>current problems we're facing those matter, of course, but what

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<v Speaker 1>we want our business to look like a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years from now, ten years from now. Those are things

0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.720
<v Speaker 1>that need to be set out and everyone needs to

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<v Speaker 1>get on board about it. So one of the things

0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:05.359
<v Speaker 1>that any leader, a business leader needs to do is

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that his team understands what is most important

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<v Speaker 1>to him and in this case, to our owner, because

0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:15.240
<v Speaker 1>we review those with aiming as well. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>your senior staff on board and people thinking about and

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<v Speaker 1>working on and working toward those objectives, you're likely to

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<v Speaker 1>have a decent chance to meet the need when it

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<v Speaker 1>finally comes. So our strategic objectives were established fairly on

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<v Speaker 1>and they included our local revenue growth. We're in a

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<v Speaker 1>small market. There are teams that have multiples of our

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<v Speaker 1>local revenue. We have to compete with them both on

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<v Speaker 1>the stadium side of the football side. There are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of competitive circuit breakers that the league uses to

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<v Speaker 1>try and ensure equal competition on the field, but you

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<v Speaker 1>still have to pay everyone. You still have to have

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<v Speaker 1>money to do that. Another objective that we have worked

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<v Speaker 1>on very hard is stadium security. I realized from time

0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:13.760
<v Speaker 1>to time we've irritated some fans about the links we

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<v Speaker 1>go to to try and make sure there are no

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<v Speaker 1>weapons in the stadium. But stadium security has been a

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<v Speaker 1>long time strategic objective of ours, and when I have

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<v Speaker 1>been asked about it in other settings, yeah, we do

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<v Speaker 1>go through a lot of effort about screening, and I

0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:37.720
<v Speaker 1>realize nobody thinks anything is very likely to happen. There

0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.960
<v Speaker 1>are also very few people who thought that terrorists were

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<v Speaker 1>going to fly airplanes into skyscrapers. You know, we want

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to say about our stadium security. We

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<v Speaker 1>did everything we knew to do and everything the experts

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<v Speaker 1>told us to try and keep everybody safe. And if

0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:59.600
<v Speaker 1>there's never an issue, great, you won't find anyone happier

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<v Speaker 1>about it than I am. But if there is an issue,

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<v Speaker 1>I want us to be able to say, hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>were given a list of things to do, protocols to follow,

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<v Speaker 1>objectives to achieve, and we did everything that we could

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<v Speaker 1>within reason to get that done. Capital spending at Nissan

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<v Speaker 1>Stadium is another strategic objective of ours, not only because

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<v Speaker 1>we're spending so much money to try and make the

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<v Speaker 1>stadium better and more fan friendly, but also because we

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<v Speaker 1>have a metropolitan government and sports authority to think about.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course we have many things waiting in the

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<v Speaker 1>queue to get done, and they fit into a number

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<v Speaker 1>of categories, but it suffices to say they are something

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<v Speaker 1>that we have to look at strategically because we care

0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:49.159
<v Speaker 1>what the stadium is going to look like and be

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<v Speaker 1>like in terms of the fan experienced five and ten

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<v Speaker 1>years from now. The physical growth of our facilities is

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<v Speaker 1>another strategic objective of ours. As you know, we have

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<v Speaker 1>added a net of eighty incremental people since I came

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<v Speaker 1>back to work five years ago. All those people need

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.000
<v Speaker 1>a place to work. I mean they're all working from

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<v Speaker 1>home at the moment, or most of them are, but

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<v Speaker 1>they do have to have a place to be in

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<v Speaker 1>a workspace. I think that's something that is important to

0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:24.119
<v Speaker 1>every employee and every staff person. Well, we had to

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<v Speaker 1>get a new building, and it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>forty thousand square foot building, and it's going to take

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of planning, a lot of effort, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money to get it built and get it

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<v Speaker 1>furnished and occupied. Those are some of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we've worked on. The twenty nineteen NFL Draft and Nashville

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<v Speaker 1>that we hosted was another strategic objective of ours. It's

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<v Speaker 1>off the list now, but there'll always be something to

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<v Speaker 1>try and take its place, because you need four or

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<v Speaker 1>five or six things that everyone is dialed into and

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<v Speaker 1>working on pretty much all the time at every NFL club.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not a static enterprise, and we have to continue improve.

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<v Speaker 1>When Phil Brettison wanted to bring pro sports to Nashville,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons was the infrastructure that it would

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<v Speaker 1>help to bring to finish off his downtown plan. The

0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:19.400
<v Speaker 1>arena and the stadium as part of that infrastructure. Obviously,

0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:23.800
<v Speaker 1>the arena is used for many different dates. People may

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<v Speaker 1>not realize the stadium Nissan Stadium last year was used

0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:34.040
<v Speaker 1>for over four hundred different dates. And that's something that

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<v Speaker 1>has been expanded greatly in the last five years. Is

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<v Speaker 1>the nine football use of stadium on a regular basis,

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<v Speaker 1>and that relates to our strategic objective about local revenue.

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<v Speaker 1>The stadium has been underutilized, in my opinion or much

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<v Speaker 1>of its existence. We have two beautiful clubs, one of

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<v Speaker 1>which overlooks downtown and the other overlooks the confluence of

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<v Speaker 1>three interstate highways. Maybe not quite as appealing as the

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<v Speaker 1>river and downtown, but still something people enjoy being part of.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we have a bunch of other discrete spaces

0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:12.880
<v Speaker 1>inside the building where you can have smaller meetings. But

0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:17.880
<v Speaker 1>we also have the parking lots and so many places.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people love to go down to the sidelines

0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:23.840
<v Speaker 1>and stand on the field kind of do the tour.

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<v Speaker 1>We're also have a growing tour business. All of it's

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<v Speaker 1>been sidelined at the moment because of COVID nineteen, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think all that'll be back, and the venue business

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:38.119
<v Speaker 1>in Nashville generally is growing, mostly because Nashville is such

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<v Speaker 1>a great town. There's so many things to do there

0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:45.480
<v Speaker 1>on the entertainment side, so many world class restaurants, attractions,

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:51.160
<v Speaker 1>things to do downtown, all of which got super viewed

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:56.480
<v Speaker 1>during the twenty nineteen NFL draft, and the events. But

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<v Speaker 1>the events business is yet another reason why we need

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<v Speaker 1>to continue looking for ways to grow our businesses at

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:07.680
<v Speaker 1>the stadium and utilize what is one of Nashville's greatest

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:11.879
<v Speaker 1>public works. This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau

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0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:18.320
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0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 1>They've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Underwood, some questions to conclude, what are you most

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<v Speaker 1>proud of that the organization has accomplished in the last

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<v Speaker 1>five years. You know, there are lots of accomplishments mine,

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 1>but I almost always go back to this. We're a

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:43.160
<v Speaker 1>football organization first, so winning playoff games on the road

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:48.879
<v Speaker 1>when you are a huge underdog, that is an enormous accomplishment,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly when you haven't done well for so long. This

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>past season is the greatest season that we've enjoyed competitively

0:24:57.080 --> 0:25:00.879
<v Speaker 1>in fifteen years or so ever. Anybody who should have

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<v Speaker 1>their hats off to our head coach, our coaching staff,

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:07.920
<v Speaker 1>our general manager and his staff about what that means

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:13.120
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the phrase you use accomplishment, And because

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>we are a football organization, I'm not sure you can

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<v Speaker 1>have anything bigger than going deep into the playoffs if

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you're an NFL team. But there have been some other

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 1>accomplishments that I think are worth mentioning. One of those

0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 1>is four winning seasons in a row. Very few teams

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:35.360
<v Speaker 1>accomplished that over and over again, and I think it

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:37.639
<v Speaker 1>needs to be viewed in the light of where we

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<v Speaker 1>came from. What were the four eight twelve seasons like

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>that before? I think we did have one nine and

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 1>seven season during Mike Munchack's ten years head coached, but

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 1>it was not a playoff season. Another great accomplishment is

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>the twenty nineteen NFL Draft that we hosted in Nashville.

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<v Speaker 1>I still believe that's easily the largest sporting event in

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the history of Tennessee and left so many positive impressions

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>all over the country, not just about Nashville, Tennessee in

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 1>general and our franchise. I thought it was a great

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 1>thing too for solidifying our relationship with the League that

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:25.199
<v Speaker 1>somehow gets a little overlooked in that mix because you

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>have six hundred thousand people and great TV ratings and

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 1>everybody having a good time. But the league also saw

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:38.919
<v Speaker 1>firsthand what Amy's management means and how committed she is

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 1>to being a successful owner. So there was another knock

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:45.920
<v Speaker 1>tied in that somewhere that needs to be mentioned that

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't get said very often. I think the designation of

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.679
<v Speaker 1>Nissan Stadium under the Safety Act is another under the

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:58.879
<v Speaker 1>radar thing that has happened that has benefited our club

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 1>and stadium and each and every person that walks into

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:08.639
<v Speaker 1>that build. It gives me a comfort knowing that the

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Homeland Security Department has looked at that building and said,

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 1>you guys are doing everything correctly, We're pleased about the

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>direction that you're going, and we're going to designate you

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:25.679
<v Speaker 1>under the Act. Again. It doesn't sound like something that's spectacular,

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 1>but we devoted millions of dollars and huge resources to

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:32.480
<v Speaker 1>getting that done. My hat is still off all of

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:37.400
<v Speaker 1>our security folks, John Albertson, Floyd Hide, Bob Flynn, all

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>of the people that contributed to that. It's a huge accomplishment.

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.199
<v Speaker 1>I think our new building is also going to be

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:47.479
<v Speaker 1>another huge accomplishment. You may be able to see it

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 1>up your window if you're in the building or if

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 1>you're driving and buy. That's going to be a great

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 1>thing for our franchise and for Amy's heritage. But all

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 1>of those, as good as they are, all of those

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 1>things taken back seat to being in the conference championship

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>last game, a game we could have won, by the way,

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think everybody should take huge pride. What's the

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>biggest change in the NFL from your start in the

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies until now. I don't know where I read this,

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 1>but sometime in seventy seven the league made a new

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 1>deal with the three networks, so DLA negotiated at the

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>same time. Because our business relies so much on live attendance,

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people don't think about the media and

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>entertainment outside of the stadium context. So that deal with

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the three networks was for five hundred and seventy six

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>million dollars. That was the year. By the way, I

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 1>started with the team as an outside lawyer some forty

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 1>three years ago now, and five hundred and seventy six

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>million dollars sounds like a lot of money. It is

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money, and it was a very big

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>deal at the time. I think there were a lot

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 1>of people surprised. At the time. The league had just

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>finished a sort of aboarded strike player strike, John Mackey

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 1>lawsuit and so forth, and so the numbers looked huge then,

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>but nothing in comparison to what they are now. Those

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>numbers now are ten times that size, thousand percent growth

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>even over forty three years as being something small. But

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<v Speaker 1>among the other facets of that that have to be

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<v Speaker 1>considered are that NFL games on television, along with a

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<v Speaker 1>few other sporting events, are really the only thing growing

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<v Speaker 1>on network television. People more and more people are watching.

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<v Speaker 1>There was the set back in the election year, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the next two years it was up by

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<v Speaker 1>in one case of double digits in terms of ratings.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not the only way people are consuming our

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment offers. They're watching it on digital devices, they're streaming

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 1>things on mobile devices, they're listening on satellite radio, on

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 1>terrestrial radio, and they are of course also going to

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the games in person. But another facet of watching our

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 1>games in person is the fact that virtually every person

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<v Speaker 1>walking in that stadium is bringing in a handheld digital device,

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<v Speaker 1>and while they're watching our game, they're also looking at

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<v Speaker 1>other things on their cell phones iPads. What if they're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing in with That's the reason, by the way, that

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<v Speaker 1>we had to install a new eight and a half

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar Wi Fi network over the past yes, eight

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<v Speaker 1>and a half million dollars. But that's because the fan

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<v Speaker 1>experience is changing. People are watching more than one thing

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<v Speaker 1>at a time. And that's true whether you're at home

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 1>or in an NFL stadium, or on the subway or

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>an airplane or whatever you're doing. People are doing more

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<v Speaker 1>than one thing at a time. It's a huge indisha

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<v Speaker 1>of modern society. So I think the biggest change that

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<v Speaker 1>has happened is how many different ways pete because nobody

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<v Speaker 1>was watching anything in their seat except the game in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy seven when I first began, that was all

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>that was going on. Handheld digital devices were something that

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty twenty five years away. So the media landscape

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<v Speaker 1>is really what has changed the most. Yeah, our players

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid more money, you bet? Is the quality of

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<v Speaker 1>play better? Yes? Are we facing problems that relate to

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<v Speaker 1>the health and safety of players? Sure, all of those

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<v Speaker 1>things matter and all of them represent changes. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy seven, when I started at the orders,

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<v Speaker 1>there was about twenty people that were employees of the

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 1>football team only as a half dozen coaches. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a general manager and an assistant GM, handful of scouts

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<v Speaker 1>and a few of the people that are working in

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<v Speaker 1>the ticket office. Maybe get total of twenty five or thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know, we've got two hundred people on our

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<v Speaker 1>business side. So growth, however you want to measure, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>metrics you want to use, is something that has happened

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<v Speaker 1>to the NFL in huge is not a big enough

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<v Speaker 1>word to describe it, but it includes huge changes in

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<v Speaker 1>the media landscape that you would know, Mike oh so

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<v Speaker 1>well from your perspective in the media business, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest single change that has happened is

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<v Speaker 1>how our entertainment is being consumed and by how many

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 1>people on how many different platforms there used to just

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<v Speaker 1>be the one and now there are many. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's wrap up with this. Five decades in the National

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Football League for Steve Underwood. You go from pumping gas

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<v Speaker 1>in Baytown, I got it right, Baytown, right right, pumping gas,

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 1>trying to find money to go to University of Texas,

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 1>dreaming of owning a corvette someday, taking out loans or

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, paying fifteen dollars a quarter whatever, and you

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 1>advance all the way to become president and CEO of

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<v Speaker 1>an NFL team. It's a great country, right, oh gosh?

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<v Speaker 1>So and maybe best of all, you get to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Bowley Green to pick up your corvette after you

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<v Speaker 1>save in your own modern day piggy bank, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, it's an American dream type story. It's

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>an American success story. It's something that I know you

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>and your family are proud of, the people who have

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>worked with you are proud of it. What is your

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 1>overriding memory of your time with Bud Adams, the Houston Oilers,

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the Tennessee Oilers, and on two occasions, the Tennessee type.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Mike of all the questions you've asked today.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the easiest. My fondest memory of all of that

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.759
<v Speaker 1>are all of the great people that I got to

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<v Speaker 1>work with. I don't care what kind of leader you are,

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you have to have a great supporting cast. And the

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 1>people that I've had the honor and privilege of working

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>with over the last forty years just some of the

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 1>greatest folks in the world. And that includes, by the way,

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 1>all of our honors. I would not be where I was,

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>where I am if it were not for them. I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have these memories and the privileges that I have

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed but for our owner. So all of the people

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.799
<v Speaker 1>that I have worked with, having those experiences with them,

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing like going through a crisis with somebody that

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 1>you know and trust. And there's a bunch of those

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.400
<v Speaker 1>people that I have gotten to work with over the years.

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 1>For example, I've worked with Randy Schofield, who is the

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 1>president of our parent company. I've known Randy within weeks

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>of the time that I first came to work there.

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Janine Kaufman, I've worked with Janine for over twenty years.

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Russ Hudson again over twenty years, Robbie Boring over twenty years. Well,

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>you go through enough episodes of life and business people

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:49.839
<v Speaker 1>like that, and you develop a respect level, friendship level

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>that just there's really nothing else like it, Mike, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I'm concerned, I would do anything for the

0:35:57.640 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 1>people that I have gotten to know and work with.

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I've just mentioned a handful. You know, Burt. I hired

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Burt almost five years ago. He's just been a huge

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>friend and co worker and so many of the things

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 1>that we've done, so you. I have to say this, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>since I have the floor at the moment, there isn't

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<v Speaker 1>anyone that works for us that I have enjoyed working

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 1>with any more than you. You're such a probe and

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>always dependable with everything that we've asked you to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know we throw a lot or have thrown

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot at you. Thank you for what you have

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:42.879
<v Speaker 1>meant to our organization. I'll always be glad and respectful

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 1>of our friendship. Well, thank you, and I'm so glad

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that five years ago you decided to come back for

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 1>a couple of months and it lasted sixty one months.

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I think so a Texan is a Texan all his

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 1>or her life. No matter what. Once you're a Texan,

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:05.439
<v Speaker 1>you're always a Texan. We'll just remember this too. You're

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 1>also a Nashvillion and so you have both honors. And

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.959
<v Speaker 1>we are most glad and most glad that you took

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<v Speaker 1>this time with us for what we'll call the exit

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<v Speaker 1>Interview on the OTP. The privilege, husband mine, Michael, thank

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you for staring us for it. Steve Underwood part of

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 1>this organization now and forever with us on the OTP,

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 1>sponsored by our great friends at Farm Bureau Health Plans

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 1>for Steve. I'm Mike Keith. Thanks for joining us for

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<v Speaker 1>this edition of the