WEBVTT - Draft Show: LIVE @ Senior Bowl 2017 - Day 3 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:18.040 He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, Dallas Cowboys 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:24.320 selectee Elliot and now your host Dane Brugler, David Hellman 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:28.479 and Brian brought us. Well, welcome to the Draft Show, 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:32.599 the third edition and the final edition this week from 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.520 the Senior Bowl Immobile, Alabama. Brian brought us from Dallas 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:40.479 Cowboys dot Com. David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. No, Dan, 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:44.360 the brain tonight. Now the smart scout flew the coop. Yeah, 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:46.440 the guy with all of the knowledge and the guy 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:48.519 with all the knowledge, that's absolutely right. But we'll bring 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.040 you some knowledge. And as we always do, we like 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.600 it to investigate and educate. And we got a chance 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:57.120 to see both teams practice today and what was surprising, 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:01.840 David was the fact that pads. I wasn't expecting that. 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.120 I was expecting, as you know, I was kind of 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:07.560 thinking the NFL procedural how teams, you know, with the 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.399 Cowboys a Wednesday full pads, then shoulder pads and shorts 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:13.880 and then you know that kind of the shells look. 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:16.200 But they went full pads today. I'm glad you mentioned 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:19.000 that because we said last night, oh, I point the 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:20.880 finger at mid that's you know, and I mean, I 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.240 trust you with that. You're the old personnel guy. So 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:25.400 we got to the stadium. I was working on a story, 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:27.919 wasn't really looking at practice, and I look up fifteen 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.720 minutes in and I'm like, well, hey, they're they're in 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:34.720 pads full pads. Yeah, and I just assumed I misheard you. No, 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:36.880 I you know what, No, you did not misheard me, 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.319 but I will. I mean, you're here for five days 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:44.880 to evaluate sixty seventy summer odd draft prospects, right, and 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.119 they're not going to play another football game until July. 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:50.520 So yeah, I was okay with that because I thought there, 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.440 I thought the practice and did you notice today everybody's 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:57.040 complaining about the practices that with the difference between the 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:59.440 Bears and the Browns, But you see what I was 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:03.640 talking about with the Browns appear to be doing more teaching. Yes, 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:05.960 and then there was more, but there was some good periods. 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.440 I thought both teams, you know, had some good I 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:10.720 you know me, I get so much out of all 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.960 the one on one stuff actually, and you know what's 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.080 I'm glad you said that. And I don't know, maybe 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.480 I'm just biased because I watched the Cowboys so much more. 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:23.440 People when they go to Dallas, players like rave about 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.320 how competitive and Garrett loves to put his guys in 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.919 competitive situations. I didn't feel like I saw as much 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.600 of it. I mean, like a Cowboys training camp practice 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.680 features a lot of one on one, right, there's the 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.400 compete period where everybody goes in front of the team 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.080 and kind of stretch their stuff. You saw there was 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.920 some of that, but it wasn't one the one on 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:47.000 one the receivers. Yeah, things that we would and are 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.080 back in the day. And by the way, Kent Garrison 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.520 executive producer of this thing, because it brings it up 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:55.640 because Kent's idea about you know, training camp, live, Ota live, 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.440 all those things, you know, when we used to show that, 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.520 because you're always right in the middle of it. I 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.720 think if we were filming there, like last year, we 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.799 had some basically some Senior Bowl live on the field 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:08.959 that was one on one, and I think we would 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:12.799 always I always find myself going towards that direction of 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:14.600 watching those. I would have liked to have seen some 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.280 more of it today, honestly, at least that's the impression 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.160 that I got. Yeah, but yeah, so well, you know, 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.200 what we were again, it's the it's the Cleveland Browns 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.880 or one of the staffs, and then the Chicago Bears 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:29.720 or the other. This was the final real practice, so 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:31.800 they've kicked this out now. We don't get to watch 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.960 the walkthrough tomorrow, and then the game will be on 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:38.920 the NFL Network on Saturday at one thirty, So if 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:40.960 you want to check that out, please feel free to 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:42.800 do so. They will be all over that coverage and 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.800 then we'll probably break it down a little bit for you. 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.760 We get the tape in from one of these teams, 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:50.080 and then we'll be able to sit and watch it 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.440 and then have some really some follow up about it 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:56.040 on the Draft show come next Thursday. Okay, I always 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:57.640 like to ask you this. I don't mean to make 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:01.080 it a broad question, but with the guys today, is 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.600 there anybody different? Are we starting to see or is 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:08.360 it not starting? Is it the same guys that the O. J. 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.360 Howards of the world and people like that that we 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.720 keep keeps seeing, keeps seeing. But is there anybody that 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:18.880 that is has risen? And maybe not from yesterday but 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.960 into today, there there definitely is one. Let me see 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:23.599 your roster real quick, because I left mine in my 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.479 room ware to be prepared to I know that's my bad. Uh, well, 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.080 there's one that I know right at the top of 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:29.960 my head. I gotta get the other. Okay, I got 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.480 it now. And we talked about him last night. Russeul 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.560 Douglas flashed at me today. I thought he was outstanding. 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:37.440 I thought he'd like the length, the reach and all 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.760 that stuff. The length is awesome, Like he's six two legiti. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.680 That's his that's his way in light, that's nots. Yeah. 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.120 I didn't have a good vision for him initially when 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.280 you watched the West Virginia tape. I thought there were 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.520 some times where he really didn't cover all that well 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.400 eight picks as a senior at West Virginia. He was 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.919 all over his guys today. And the best part I 0:04:57.920 --> 0:04:59.919 wrote about this for a story I'm writing tomorrow. He 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.840 he made like a really athletic play down the sideline 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:06.400 on Zay Jones, where it was like some Byron Jones 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:10.200 Mo Clayborne type stuff where he was over the guy's shoulder, Uh, 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.880 breaking up a pass that I really didn't look like 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.240 he had a chance at getting to. And yeah, I 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:17.520 think you wrote about this a little bit too. With 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.280 the Yukon safety is that you worry about, you know, 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.000 your your movement and your ability and stuff like that. 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:28.240 Uh you want me to say it for obi Obik 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:34.440 safety six four two twenty. Yeah. But and and uh 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.160 uh Rusul Douglas. I don't know why I can't say 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.320 this guy's name. He moved surprisingly well for a guy 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.240 who's as big as he is, I thought, especially he's 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.440 not playing safety, he's playing corner right, So I really 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:48.160 liked him. And then um, Jordan willis the Kansas State 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.400 defensive end. Who I know what you? I know you 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:55.960 said you hadn't noticed him, but Yean was like, yeah, yeah, 0:05:56.000 --> 0:06:00.960 you're right. Yeah he looked fast and losev out there today. 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:05.880 Go okay, specifically, sure, I always talk about left end 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.520 right end. He was playing left end because and the 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.080 only reason folks, I say this out there about left 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.599 in right in is that that's the way that the 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:19.520 Cowboys evaluate their board. They will have a designation of 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.440 all the left ends. They'll have a board with all 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:24.680 or not a board, but a separate category of all 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.760 the right ends, all the one techniques and all the 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:32.680 three techniques, which and I I hate listening to you 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.320 talk about because everybody's a left end. But but that's 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.400 the problem with this foot kid. They don't have mean 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.120 but this kid, based on what we know, I would 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.080 say he's a right end. But he played left end 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.520 his entire college career and right pretty damn good at it. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.080 Right had seventeen and a half tackles for loss at 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.280 left end, and I think he had eleven sacks as 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.320 a senior coming from left end. So I mean, I 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.760 don't know, but I know that he was kicking the 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.000 right tackles. But today he was getting around the corner. 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.080 He wasn't giving the guy a chance. I think you know, 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.760 obviously you don't sack the quarterback in practices like this, 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.400 but if you did, I think he would have had 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.200 three today. Yeah, so that the pressure was definitely there 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.000 for Okay, well from what okay from how would you 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.520 compare him to what you've seen from some of the 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.960 teammates on his on his on that side, though, I'm 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:17.800 glad you asked that question, let me and let me 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.040 ask you this because on that on that particular team, 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:25.240 if you remember, there's Deshan hall Is on that team, 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:29.320 and he's and then uh Past sagon is on that 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.000 team as well, and we talked about him. But and 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.200 I'm not trying to throw anybody under the bus. We're 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.920 a Texas based team and he plays at A and M. 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.200 I'm sure there's a lot of aggies listening. I came 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.760 into the week with him on my radar thinking he 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.320 was going to be because screamer. He's from A and 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.800 M and he's a big name and he played with Garrett. 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.400 I don't remember him doing anything this week, am I See? 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.400 That's the total? I mean, this is this is the 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.640 This is the problem that you really run into when 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.160 you're at the Senior Bowl and you're trying to watch 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.640 so much of the field and you're you're right, and 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.760 you're watching, you're watching a corner cover in one on 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.920 one when Hall might be winning a rep, and then 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.400 it comes back around and you don't see him right. 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.440 And that's why we you know, I like to sit 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.160 in the press box where we do, because at least 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.640 you have a chance to see the whole field. And 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.720 there's scouts that are just responsible for, Hey, let me 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.640 watch the one on one pass rush stuff. Let me 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.920 watch the one on one wide receiver defensive back stuff. 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.320 Did you see Hall do anything. I tell you what, though, 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.880 there are some things with Hall where I felt like 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.679 and I don't disagree with what you're saying totally. I 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:36.920 mean I think there's a part of me though. I 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:38.880 did see him win a couple of different times, and 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:42.720 I'm sure he did how many times you know exactly? Well, 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.679 when we get back to Dallas and we sit there 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:46.920 at the Star and we have all that practice tape, 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:48.760 you know you'll be able to see him go rep 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:53.000 after rep after rep. I see. I was the opposite though, 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.400 on the on the Willis kid, because I didn't see 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.199 him win like that. And you know, here you are, 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.920 you're you've you've obviously done your homework on the player 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.880 and you know the player, but you but to me, 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:09.880 I didn't see the consistency of winning. And that's and 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.840 that's but that's but that's like you say, you're watching 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.000 you know, separate. That's the fun he was He kicked 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.439 a butt in the spam about fifteen minutes at full 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:22.240 team today. Who I mean, who knows what he did yesterday? 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.040 And that's the tricky part is, Yeah, you're trying to 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.800 watch about sixty guys at once. Is it possible that, 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:31.480 like rain Dakota. He's quote unquote a gamer, sure, and 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.400 I want to see what he does in the game. Yeah, 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.160 I know that you knew that Aggie was gonna speak. 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:37.560 I gotta defend my boy. Yeah, well I thought you 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:39.440 were talking about Willows, So I thought that so he 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.079 was talking about Yeah, let me ask you something, Dave, 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.439 and and and by the way, we're gonna play a 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.560 little game we're gonna do. Uh, we're gonna finish up 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.200 some of our talk here about the Senior Bowl and 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.120 what we saw today. But I also want to do 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:53.600 a little bit more of the twitter on the twenty. 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.080 I want to give people the opportunity if they have 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.880 some draft questions. Uh, we're kind of without our crutch here, 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:04.679 Dame Brugler. You know, we're like sixty guys in He's 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.560 it's like having a super computer. Yeah, exactly. So you know, 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.240 if your questions are about players, we'll try and do 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.040 our best to answer them to the best of our 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:14.679 We got plenty of questions. Absolutely, And I also want 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.160 to play a little game with you, Dave, and can't 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.480 you guys can play along here and at home, maybe 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.280 you will. This is really this is some questions I've 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.839 just called this the Draft Show questions, and a lot 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.080 of them have to do with the Cowboys. So you know, 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.880 I just kind of want to use your expertise on 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.920 this football team today since we're missing Dame, I want 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:37.400 to use your expertise to talk about some draft questions. 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:40.000 I can't positions and things like that. So we're gonna 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:41.640 get into that. We're gonna do. We're gonna do this 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.440 Senior Bowl stuff Twitter on the twenty and then we'll 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.000 do the Draft questions and put a big bow on 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:51.240 this sou But let me ask you this though, any 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.360 running backs and that was a subject that we got into, 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.480 and I'm not going to revisit you know what we 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.839 were talking about. Yeah, we talked about but were there 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:03.600 any running back that stood out to you of this group? 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.800 And you know, I'm and im and I'll let you 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.600 have the sheet right there. If there's anybody that jumped 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:12.120 out at you, I said yesterday for the okay, and 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.560 this actually works perfectly. I loved Hunt and Clement right 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.840 from the North team, Yes right, I thought they were great. 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.040 And then today, Uh, the kid who really jumped out 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.880 at me was this Jamal Williams from Brigham Young there 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.760 you go. H He had a couple of plays. He 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.640 had one today where he cuts, he bounced it to 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:33.120 the outside and beat two or three different defensive backs 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.520 to the corner, didn't just beat him, but then kept 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.960 getting yards like it was a lot like those plays 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:40.400 we saw from Zeke all during football season where you're 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:45.040 just like, there's nothing, there's nothing, yeah, exactly. Uh. And 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.360 he had one of those where I was just like, okay, dude, 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.080 uh so I he was impressive and I kind of 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.320 I did some research on him after that play. I 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:54.080 was like, all right, like this, this guy's a player. 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.400 This isn't this isn't a nobody you know you mentioned 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.640 And that's Kareem Hunt from Toledo. Yeah, and what I 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:01.560 love that? Yeah. And I'll tell you what I like 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:05.640 about Kareem Hunt. You know, not knowing much about him 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.920 until you know Dane had talked about him as a 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.520 guy coming in that Hey you need to watch you 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.160 need to see this guy. What I noticed one with 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.040 Kareem Hunt, I noticed a physical runner with the ball 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.280 in his hands. Today. I saw two things. I was 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:23.319 really happy with him. I saw him as a blitz protector. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.240 You know, they were screaming off the edge. They were 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.160 rushing guys in the middle, and he was stepping up 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:33.600 and taking guys on and and and the specifically Hanson 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:38.160 Riddick from Temple, who has been you know, you know, 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:45.760 exc Hassan Riddick, you know, and I and I and 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:49.079 I think it's get it kind of finally I'll get 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.880 this name, right, Jared Golf, Yeah, Jerry Golf, but no, 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.440 but yeah, with with with with him with Riddick. I 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.880 said it right that time, Reddick. It's fine. Well, the 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:01.720 Temple guy, we got it, the Temple guy, Reddick. But anyway, 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.360 but that's the thing about it is to me, he 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.560 was taking him on and he there was, and he 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:11.560 was difficult to block. I said on yesterday's show that 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.960 his his pre pre Senior Bowl weight was two twenty five. 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.160 He's only like two oh eight. He's I gave him 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.480 too much credit. But he doesn't play he plays big, 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.120 he looks he plays like a load, right. He's not 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.640 afraid to block, He's not afraid to put his pads down. No, no, 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.839 And he caught the ball well today two and the 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.040 one on one stuff as I saw as well, forty 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.720 one receptions for four hundred yards as a senior at 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:35.319 Toledo this year. So so there you go, that complete 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.880 and that's you know, I feel like everybody's looking. Everybody's 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:41.760 looking for that guy who can get in here at 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.080 twenty eight and make a difference and help get this 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.480 team past the divisional round of the playoffs. I get that, 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.400 But that's the type of stuff that excites me. Is 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.880 the guy that's going to be there on Saturday afternoon 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.160 who can sneakily make this team a lot better. Obviously, 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.320 you don't need him to start, you have his Snekuel Elliott, 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:59.560 but a guy like that can make this team a 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.440 lot better. Infused some youth into your running back corps, 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.840 give you some great depth, a versatile guy. But I 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:08.439 mean that you're basically talking about merging the skill sets 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.800 of Darren McFadden and Lance Dunbar into one guy. I 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:12.800 think they're going to have to draft a guy like that. 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.040 I think I think they need to either draft a 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.880 running back or sign a priority free agent. I mean, 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:24.120 you remember Thomas Rawls. Uh, you know, dunch Jarius Jackson 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.680 was a sixth round pick. He probably might have gone undrafted. 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.800 They didn't want to let him get to that point. 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.400 I think a guy like that would be good for 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.120 this team with what the depth behind Zeke looks like. 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:37.880 Disappointing player. I saw you mentioned this. I'll give you, 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.320 I'll give you well, I already said Dashawan Hall. I 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.040 thought I was disappointed based on the hype, based on 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.680 you know, all this season, I've been hearing like, well, 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.400 Garrett's good, but keep your eye on Dashawn Hall. This 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:53.080 guy's a beast. So that was disappointing. And then you 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:57.200 mentioned this Traven Darrell, Ravn Durrell not a great, not 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:01.680 just a everything. Every WAH week seemed like that. Every receiver, 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.480 every time you looked up, there was a receiver where 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:10.520 It's Chad Williams from the Grambling Kid, Josh Reynolds Switzer. Uh. 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.760 We talked about Ross making some plays from my guy 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:17.240 Cup yeah, Cup everywhere. Yeah. I mean these guys were 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:25.000 everywhere making plays. I couldn't. I specifically watched him today 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.640 thinking because I'm like, I haven't seen him, and I 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.800 thought David, I thought he was hurt. I thought he 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.240 was hurt. I didn't see him at all, and then 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.200 all of a sudden, I'm watching Okay, let's find him 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:36.800 wearing the white helmets today, which I absolutely hate. I 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:38.480 know you love. It makes him harder to find him, 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.400 it does. And so I'm watching him and obviously he 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:44.040 needed to wear the gold helmets. I needed to find him. 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.760 But I didn't think he I think these practices have 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.280 been terrible for him, not great. I really do. And 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.560 for somebody coming in that we thought might have And 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:54.840 there's a lot of names. I mean, this wide receiver 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:59.280 group really stretches, and now you're trying to elevate yourself 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.600 into a position where well, and and I'm not saying 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:04.800 you make he bates everything on the Senior Bowl. I 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:06.800 will say this. Al Davis back in the day for 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.080 the Raiders, he used to draft players off how well 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:10.960 they played in the Senior Bowl. That was something that 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.800 was important to him. I really I like the I mean, 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:15.880 this is the only and Dane, I'm stealing a line 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:17.560 from Dane, but this is the only time during the 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.400 entire draft process where you get to watch people play football, right, 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.640 So I think that's important. Um, And yeah, I mean, 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.480 you don't want to discredit everything. And Travan Daraile is 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.560 probably familiar with this. His quarterback play was not great 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.760 this week wasn't great his entire college. Yeah, but the 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.960 other receivers had to deal with the same issues. I'm 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:37.560 just looking for a guy that, you know, if you 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.360 talk about the measurables, yeah, you talk about the size, 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.920 you talk about you know, at six one two h six, 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.080 and we've seen him make plays and and you know, 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.200 the receiver play, I mean it's gonna be the quarterback 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.560 play at l issue wasn't great, but we've seen these kids, 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:55.480 these kids this week be bad ball catchers. Yeah, he 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.520 couldn't separate and when he did separate, they threw it 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.800 to him and he dropped the ball. So I mean 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:04.200 that that, to me was very disappointing in a group 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.639 of receivers that seemed to have some guys who were 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.800 able to elevate their games. No, I completely agree with you. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.639 I'm trying to think who else, who else disappointed me 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:17.080 that that's okay? There's one that the offensive lineman disappoints you, David. 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.399 I think I'm disappointed that Forrest Lamp didn't get to 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.159 do the whole I was gonna same thing about your 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.400 Davious White, the other LSU kid is I mean, it's 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.560 not his fault. But he didn't get to finish the week. 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:28.880 He's hurt. Ryan Anderson got hurt. He didn't go today. 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:30.919 He's gonna try to play in the game. But so 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.080 you're talking, I mean Ryan Anderson was a leader on 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.280 Alabama and Trey White before your starter at LSU. Lamp 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.560 is supposedly the best offensive lineman here. So you're talking 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.720 about three of your better prospects who kind of faded 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.000 out of practice this week. Yeah. Well, the thing about 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.560 it too, we wanted to see Lamp play some guard. 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.439 That That's where I wanted because it's a projection if 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:52.119 you watch him play at Western Kentucky. Excuse me. He 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.959 is a guy that plays left tackle, so they were 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.080 going to give him an opportunity to play some guard 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.639 this week. I wanted to see how that you know 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.800 is we remember it very well being here and watching 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:06.800 and watching Zack Martin play both tackle and guard. He 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.360 was and play against Aaron Donald, superstar. He like he 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.480 stole the show. And it's hard to steal the show 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.920 when you're an offensive lineman, right because it's not flashy work. 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.560 But he stole the Senior Bowl in twenty fourteen. I 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.280 got one for you, um and we've we've talked about him. 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:24.240 We don't have to get too into it. But twenty 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.359 fifteen Thorpe Award winner, I was hoping to see more 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.920 of something from Desmond King than just you're talking about. 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.960 I mean, I know the board has changed already from 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:35.840 what it was last year. People were saying he might 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.359 he was a he was a big time guy in 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.359 twenty fifteen. Now you're thinking of him as like more 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.160 of a second round I don't know, you know, last 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.320 year he would have been a first round player. Yeah, 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:47.920 he would have been drafted probably, And I don't think 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.119 I saw anything at these practices where I was like, oh, 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.399 this guy's a baller like and that's that's really all 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:55.919 you can look for, Like you're saying, when you're not 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:59.080 you're not watching tape, watching rewind after rewind, you get 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:01.960 one rep and then you move your attention somewhere else. 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:05.600 I didn't see him do anything amazing this entire way. Yeah, 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.560 I'm focused a little bit too on the look the slam, 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.800 a little bit for the offensive line, because you know 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.000 we are talking a little bit about the Walker guy. Yeah, 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.560 well no, I'm just trying to figure out could be 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:18.560 a guy, could there be a guy that the Cowboys, 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.240 you know, and trust me, I've got some questions for 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:24.080 you about that twenty eighth pick. I'm excited, but you know, 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.320 and and you know Zach Banner. We haven't really talked 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:30.600 much about Zach Banner, the massive tackle from USC. Plays 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:34.720 right tackle at USC, and they moved him over to 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:38.119 the left side today, and I to me, I was 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.040 interested to see if he was going to get exposed 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.800 over there. Did he didn't feel like he did? Didn't 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:45.639