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Speaker 1: He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: selectee Elliot and now your host Dane Brugler, David Hellman

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Speaker 1: and Brian brought us. Well, welcome to the Draft Show,

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Speaker 1: the third edition and the final edition this week from

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl Immobile, Alabama. Brian brought us from Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com. David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. No, Dan,

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Speaker 1: the brain tonight. Now the smart scout flew the coop. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the guy with all of the knowledge and the guy

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Speaker 1: with all the knowledge, that's absolutely right. But we'll bring

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Speaker 1: you some knowledge. And as we always do, we like

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Speaker 1: it to investigate and educate. And we got a chance

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Speaker 1: to see both teams practice today and what was surprising,

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Speaker 1: David was the fact that pads. I wasn't expecting that.

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Speaker 1: I was expecting, as you know, I was kind of

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Speaker 1: thinking the NFL procedural how teams, you know, with the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys a Wednesday full pads, then shoulder pads and shorts

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Speaker 1: and then you know that kind of the shells look.

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Speaker 1: But they went full pads today. I'm glad you mentioned

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Speaker 1: that because we said last night, oh, I point the

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Speaker 1: finger at mid that's you know, and I mean, I

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Speaker 1: trust you with that. You're the old personnel guy. So

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Speaker 1: we got to the stadium. I was working on a story,

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Speaker 1: wasn't really looking at practice, and I look up fifteen

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Speaker 1: minutes in and I'm like, well, hey, they're they're in

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Speaker 1: pads full pads. Yeah, and I just assumed I misheard you. No,

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Speaker 1: I you know what, No, you did not misheard me,

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Speaker 1: but I will. I mean, you're here for five days

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Speaker 1: to evaluate sixty seventy summer odd draft prospects, right, and

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Speaker 1: they're not going to play another football game until July.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I was okay with that because I thought there,

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Speaker 1: I thought the practice and did you notice today everybody's

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Speaker 1: complaining about the practices that with the difference between the

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Speaker 1: talking about with the Browns appear to be doing more teaching. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and then there was more, but there was some good periods.

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Speaker 1: I thought both teams, you know, had some good I

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Speaker 1: you know me, I get so much out of all

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that. And I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm just biased because I watched the Cowboys so much more.

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Speaker 1: People when they go to Dallas, players like rave about

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Speaker 1: how competitive and Garrett loves to put his guys in

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Speaker 1: of it. I mean, like a Cowboys training camp practice

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Speaker 1: back in the day. And by the way, Kent Garrison

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Speaker 1: they've kicked this out now. We don't get to watch

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Speaker 1: the walkthrough tomorrow, and then the game will be on

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Speaker 1: the NFL Network on Saturday at one thirty, So if

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Speaker 1: then we'll probably break it down a little bit for you.

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Speaker 1: We get the tape in from one of these teams,

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Speaker 1: on the Draft show come next Thursday. Okay, I always

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Speaker 1: like rain Dakota. He's quote unquote a gamer, sure, and

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Speaker 1: I gotta defend my boy. Yeah, well I thought you

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Speaker 1: We got plenty of questions. Absolutely, And I also want

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Speaker 1: Ron Leary. So that means, I mean, the line is

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Speaker 1: They want to know, how do you how much do

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Speaker 1: you think that Cooper Cup has elevated himself and has he?

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Speaker 1: I mean has he to you? He's the best receiver

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Speaker 1: that's been here in my opinion, is he the best

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Speaker 1: receiver that's been here this week. Well, I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: seen with with Cooper cup Uh. You know, coming in,

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Speaker 1: I'd seen him when I was watching Youngstown State. I

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Speaker 1: They put him on the outside. He's a he's an

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Speaker 1: outstanding route runner. He knows how to get open. Someone was,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of comparing there was a kid game

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Speaker 1: Cole Danny Cole that they drafted here, and was he

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Speaker 1: Danzy Danny Cole. No, he's a better route runner. He's

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Speaker 1: a more savvy route runner. He's a I think he's

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Speaker 1: He could beat separation. He's really good along the sidelines too.

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Speaker 1: Coming back for the football, he understands how to get

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Speaker 1: his feet and bounce. These are all things very positive.

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Speaker 1: I think that that the scouts knew about him, The

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Speaker 1: learn about him. And yeah, I think that he's done

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Speaker 1: said the stat last night forty something receptions you know

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Speaker 1: of are we is this like the Senior Bowl bump,

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Speaker 1: Like he's a good player, But Braxton Miller at receiver,

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Speaker 1: it was his first yeah, first year been this. This

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Speaker 1: guy's a legitimate Yeah, he's been in There's a bunch

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Speaker 1: of there's a bunch of PAC twelve teams right now

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Speaker 1: that are probably like going, what were we thinking and recruiting.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you when you see a player like

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. It's a quality program. But when you're

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Speaker 1: when you see kids like that, players thinking Okay, why

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Speaker 1: did we not recruit I bet you he's a second

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Speaker 1: take you. Now this this draft is pretty deep for

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Speaker 1: start ranking these guys where they are. So I'm glad.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. It's something It's a

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Speaker 1: question we talked about off the air. Everybody wants defense.

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Speaker 1: That's understandable, Right, would you rather draft like a top

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's gonna be some good receivers there at

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Speaker 1: twenty eight, right, Maybe not pass rushers. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are on board with this,

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Speaker 1: the concept of maybe taking a wide receiver in the

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Speaker 1: first round of this draft, I think there's you know,

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Speaker 1: and and let's do this. One of my questions deals

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Speaker 1: get to that. I'll get to that question. Promise I will. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we talked about Carol Phillips earlier this week. Illinois Johnny

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Speaker 1: just wants to know about his week in general. What

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Speaker 1: more about Smoot. But I'll tell you what. One of

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Speaker 1: guy that was it was. He plays with tremendous passion.

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Speaker 1: He hustles, He's got some really he's got skill, He's

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Speaker 1: the Miami kids had a pick today. Sure, did you

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Speaker 1: know what. I noticed him a little bit. I didn't

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Speaker 1: the fact that he could play on the outside, but

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Speaker 1: also I think he might be a better player inside day.

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Speaker 1: against a lot of quality receivers, especially Miami playing against

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Speaker 1: you can watch the game against, you know, against Clemsons

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Speaker 1: and those types of teams in the world. He can

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Speaker 1: vision Dustin Justin, we're talking about the guys that are here.

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Speaker 1: Um who what pass rusher impressed you? The most this week.

641
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: You know what I think when I look at just

642
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Speaker 1: the overall if you said the Edge Rushers, I really

643
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: really really liked what I saw from Smoot. I really,

644
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Speaker 1: I really do. And I know I talked to him,

645
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: I talked about him earlier. I also I think that

646
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: that was the one we kind of addressed Hall. We

647
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: dressed the kid from Villanova a little bit. I think

648
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: the kid and I wrote about this from about the

649
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: Villanova kid when they were doing the circle drill and if, yeah,

650
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: he did look stiff, didn't It's hard not to be

651
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: stiff when you're that gigantic. But how about though, when

652
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: you see David Urban does David Irban had six seven

653
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: looks stiff? Not really see It's what I'm saying. But

654
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: it's hard, and you're right about that, it's hard to

655
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: not But what I was talking about, folks, if you

656
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: read are my story tonight on Dallas Cowboys dot com,

657
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: the circle drill is actually what it is. It's a

658
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: complete It's like a giant hula hoop, right okay, And

659
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: they put the quarterback bag at one end of the hula.

660
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: Who about and it's all about bending and they did

661
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: a great job of show when the Browns coaches showed

662
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: you about these kids ability to turn the corner and bend.

663
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: And he didn't bend all that well. And so that's

664
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: something you know. And I thought that if you played

665
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: him wide, he has a better chance to rush as

666
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: opposed to playing him tight. But when he played tight

667
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: tight meaning near head up or inside, he was able

668
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: to take the inside gap and do a little bit

669
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: better than when he played why. This is something that

670
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Speaker 1: I noticed while I was writing my story for Friday,

671
00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: The Reddick Guy, Temple Reddick on Reddick, he's small. Yeah,

672
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: he's six one, yeah, two forty seven. Yeah, it is

673
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: like I mean, he and he he was a beast.

674
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: He was great all week. He was well. The fact

675
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: with him, Yeah, the fact with him, I'm talking about

676
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: the defensive ends, the rushers, the pass rushers. He's the

677
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: one guy. Though when you talk about this that like

678
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: if try and find a spot and Nickel play, Like,

679
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: what what would the Cowboys do with him? He would

680
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: be a lot like Damon Wilson. I believe so you

681
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: he would be a stand up linebacker. I think he's

682
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: a stand up linebacker and and he might even be

683
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: a better a better Kyle Wilbur. But Kyle Wilbur is

684
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: always around the ball. How many times spalls on the ground,

685
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: Kyle Wilbur and he's always doing something. But to me,

686
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: this kid is that type of Dai Damian Wilson's plays

687
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: the Sam linebacker. Maybe he played his kid as at

688
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: will and just let him run to the football. I

689
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: just and I don't know. Maybe it's not fair that

690
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli's scheme scares me when it comes to like

691
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: hybrid tweener guys like I just I don't trust that

692
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna figure out what to do with a guy

693
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: who doesn't have a true position like that, you know,

694
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: and that's why you know, I don't see they're never

695
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: drafting like a tired Matthew type or any of those

696
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: linebacker safety hybrids. People ask me today, is this scheme

697
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: just too old school? And I don't know if that's

698
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: the right. I don't think it's too old. It can work.

699
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: It worked this year obviously not against Aaron Rodgers, but

700
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: like it works. It's just it's very basic, and like

701
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: that's Rod's entire ethos is like simplify it and just

702
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: get guys knowing what they're supposed to do and getting

703
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: to the football, and it can be devastating. I mean,

704
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: the mid two thousands Bears teams kicked button running that stuff.

705
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: So I don't have a problem with the scheme. I

706
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: just don't think you're gonna see any type of overcomplicated

707
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: or like anything you know, like the Todd Bowls and

708
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians type of defenses where there's all these fluid

709
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: formations and maybe sometimes you only have too down linemen,

710
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: like that's not Rod Marinelli's stuff. That's just not that's

711
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: what you were You ever here. You were here for

712
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: you were out here for Rob Rob Royan. See that's

713
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: and Rob's scheme was too complicated, and that that was

714
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: the problem. I kind of like the idea of having

715
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: a really simple scheme that you can plug any idiot into,

716
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: like honestly, and and it especially works if your talent's

717
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: not that great either, I think. So I don't have

718
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: a problem with the scheme. I just think during the

719
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: draft process, I'm just like, oh, that guy's probably not

720
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: gonna wind up here because that's just not the way

721
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli does defense, and that you know, maybe that's

722
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: not great, but it it's just the way it is.

723
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: So Um, what else do we have? What else do

724
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: we have? Oh? I got a Rod Marinelli question for

725
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: you today too, by the way, Oh do you yeah?

726
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: Is it? What is it about? What we were just

727
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: get ready? Yeah? Yeah? So well okay, um, all right,

728
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: here's one and then this is I actually I wanted

729
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: to ask you this, uh droove, And I like this

730
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: because you're always saying this is a this is a

731
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: draft show, not a Cowboys show. So and I know,

732
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: you know it's early in the process, but he's he's

733
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a little drafty with the cowboys though.

734
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: Hearing him, I'm gonna play to your expertise, is what

735
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. What do you think in general based

736
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: on what you know about this quarterback class as it

737
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: compares to other quarterback classes? And this, this guy's asking

738
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: from the Bill's perspective, who pay top ten and have

739
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: to make it? And this is gonna be this is

740
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: gonna be tough because you know, what is what is

741
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: the North Carolina kid? Asking Trubisky? What is he? What

742
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: is the Notre Dame kid? What are any of them? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

743
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: and I know he balled out against Alabama? What is

744
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson, But is Deshaun Watson and you know, and

745
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you, I'm gonna ask you. I'm gonna

746
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: well again, that's another question I have. But but yeah,

747
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: I think that you know, if you're one of those teams,

748
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: from just what I've seen these quarterbacks at the senior ball,

749
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: I don't think any one of these guys can help you.

750
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: The six guys, I don't see any of these six guys.

751
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: So you eliminate those guys. I think Dane even said

752
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: he had like three of them had draftable grades. You know,

753
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: of what he saw. I I would be I would

754
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: be a I would be nervous. I would be really

755
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: nervous just about what I know, the unknown of what

756
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: I was talking about. The North Carolina, the Notre Dame,

757
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: the Clemson. I personally think, I personally think the Clemson

758
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: guy can play. I mean, I absolutely play. I mean,

759
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: but I think he could lead an NFL team. Is

760
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: he a number one pick? And Jordan Dane quoted a

761
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: personnel guy anonymously at the start of the week as saying,

762
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: like Miles Garrett has to be the number one pick.

763
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: I don't overcomplication. Oh no, no, yeah, I agree with him. Yeah,

764
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: I just it's the only the only position that's worth

765
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: unseating him for is a quarterback. And even if Watson

766
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: or if any of those guys are good, I don't

767
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: think they're good enough to merit that. And I feel,

768
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: but every year, every ye Allen do enough for you

769
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: that you would not take Miles Garrett. I like Jonathan

770
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: Allen a lot, Yeah, like a lot a lot. And

771
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: I love the fact, like he can play any position

772
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: on the defensive line, right, But Garrett's just he's not Clowney,

773
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: but he's like that Clowney type of athlete where he

774
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: can just do a lot of stuff. If you compared

775
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: him or Clowney, there's no way I would take Clowney

776
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: every single day. I agree. I don't see Clowney here.

777
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: I don't I see I see that a freakish level

778
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: of athleticism though. Oh yeah, but that's what Clowney. I

779
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: just Clowney could and I don't know. And the problem

780
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: I have with with Miles Garrett is the fact that

781
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: I have to I have to sit there and figure

782
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: out when he's healthy and when he's not healthy. Yeah,

783
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: that's the problem I have. Guys telling me all the time.

784
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: It's like, what games you watch? Well, I watched the

785
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: Oh he wasn't healthy. Yeah, he's coming off. I don't know.

786
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's six percent in games, and

787
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's one hundred percent. You watch

788
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: him last year, Well that's what I'm saying. Yeah, no, no,

789
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: it's we're gonna have to do because this year you

790
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: do not get a clear understanding of what he is

791
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: as a player. Maybe he gets the UCLA game, so

792
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: maybe that's the first year. I mean, that's that's the

793
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: healthiest he's gonna be. That's it. And I mean, Jonathan

794
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: Allen's gonna be a top five pick if I had

795
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: to guess. But you think he's better than Garrett? I

796
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: think that teams. I think the teams are gonna I

797
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be some teams that might very well

798
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: have Alan as their top, their top defensive lineman. Where

799
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: do you think he fits better? Alan? Three? Four or

800
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: forty three? Oh, I'm gonna play him in a three

801
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: and a four three? Yeah, because I think he's a

802
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: three technique and I don't. And I'm and what's so

803
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: sad about this is I don't think he's Aaron Donald.

804
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he has that Aaron Donald quickness. I

805
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: think he's got more power than Aaron Donald, but I

806
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: don't think he has Aaron Donald quickness. See that just

807
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: tells you a bit how the draft is. Though for

808
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: some of these defensive line you're looking at pro comparisons

809
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: for Garrett and Alan, what would you say, we gotta

810
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: figure that out. See that's that's the I mean, because

811
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: people are gonna say they're gonna try and compare questions.

812
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: They're gonna come no, No, that's what I'm saying. I mean,

813
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta figure out though, if you do

814
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: believe he's clowney, like I don't think he's clowney, Yeah,

815
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, and I trust me, man, I'm

816
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: gonna sit down and figure him out. Though, Like Kent

817
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: was talking about, if you have to go back and

818
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: look at the junior tape, because the senior tape coming back,

819
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: coming back doesn't doesn't paint the picture really probably what

820
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: the player is. The expectation was just speaking from an

821
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: A and M perspective. The expectation was so high on

822
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett and he got hurt and this was not

823
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: the year he was supposed to have. This Aggie right

824
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: here is just going bad for say he would have

825
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: been if he had been healthy, he would have been

826
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: in New York. You know, he's that kind of player. Wow,

827
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: if he had been healthy, that's not Dane still has

828
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: him as his number one player. I think he's pretty

829
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: been hurt. I think Dane also had Laramy Tunsil as

830
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: his number one player last year. Yeah, well a gas

831
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: mask prevented him. Let me let me tell you this.

832
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: So let me tell you. When you evaluate three hundred

833
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: guys you're gonna have, you're gonna have one or two

834
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: of them when you're not to tappy. Okay, we're gonna

835
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: take our final break and then we come back. I

836
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: want to get into some of these. These are cowboy

837
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: type questions, but I want to use my my my

838
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: colleague here. Here people what they want, Give these people

839
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: what they want. So we'll be right back with the

840
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Speaker 1: draft show. To work this big land, you need equipment

841
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Speaker 1: with values rooted as deep in Texas soil as you are.

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844
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Speaker 1: less so you have more time to do what you love.

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Speaker 1: John Deer was first in the Texas fields, and we're

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Speaker 1: proud to be on the field as the official agg

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Speaker 1: and turf equipment of the Dallas Cowboys. Find Texas sized

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Speaker 1: We love the questions and we hope we're doing a

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Speaker 1: great job for you guys. Okay, speaking of questions, I've

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Speaker 1: got some Draft Show questions and these are gonna be

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Speaker 1: really Cowboys specific because I want to use your expertise here. Okay,

899
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: here we go. Question I'll answer to question number one.

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00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: More likely the Cowboys trading Tony Romo or moving up

901
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: into the first round of the draft, moving into the

902
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 1: top fifteen in the draft. More likely they trade Tony.

903
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: I think that's moving in and do both moving in?

904
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: Oh damn, what get a one more Tony more likely.

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00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: More likely, it's more likely they deal Tony like I

906
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: just maybe I I will be proven to be wrong.

907
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: But something's got to give with that. I think he's

908
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: he's something has to happen. You're not going in the

909
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: next season with things the way they are, with the

910
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: with the with the teams being small, probably Denver, Houston,

911
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: maybe Chicago, if you're on a hometown deal, not you know,

912
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: a home area thing. I think that depends on whether

913
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: Tony thinks they can compete. Yeah. I just threw them

914
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: in there as a but, but but you're you're small,

915
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: if you're Houston or Denver. Do you offer Dallas anything

916
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: or do you just know that Dallas is in such

917
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: a hole with that contract that they're gonna have to

918
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: let him go And you're gonna then you're gonna turn

919
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: into like a Paint Manning situation where you have to recruit.

920
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: Remember Manning headed Opportunity Arizona the number then, and yes

921
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: I do remember that. Sorry to cut you off. The

922
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: number of people who would become interested if he was

923
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: a free agent, I feel like would grow. And that

924
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they could necessarily get him for because

925
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: he wants to go he'll pick and choose. But we're

926
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: going to Tony Romo tour. But yeah, exactly, like I

927
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: think you maybe make an offer to keep the peep

928
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: the other teams out of it. I think the thing

929
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: is is what are the Cowboys expectations of what they

930
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: can get and are they willing to negotiate that? Like,

931
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: let's I mean, Houston would probably give up a third

932
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: round pick for Tony Romo maybe, or yeah, fourth or

933
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: a third and as you know, a third exactly, Brett

934
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: Farb went for a third and he had less left

935
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: in the tank than Tony Romo does, I would argue.

936
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: And so, but is that enough, especially when you're talking

937
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: about the emotion that's involved in this, and Jerry Jones

938
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: is like, that's Tony Romo, that's and he's our he's

939
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: he's in the Ring of honor. We're not getting rid

940
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: of him for a third round pick, No way. Is

941
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: there a chance that neither happened? Of course, yeah, I would.

942
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: I would not put it past Jerry Jones to keep

943
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: Tony Romo. Okay, if he doesn't get what he wants,

944
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: there's a chance that neither happens. I don't see the

945
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys making a trade that big, because that's to move

946
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: into the top fifteen. You're talking about giving up a

947
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: decent amount of stuff to move that many spots, and

948
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're talking about that. That's something

949
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: you do if you think you're one player away. I

950
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: try to make it difficult, Yeah, Eno, training Romo and

951
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: difficult moving up. Okay, I think it's I think it's

952
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: very likely that neither one of those happens. But I

953
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: still think somehow Tony Romo is not on this team

954
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. Let Terrence Williams and Bryce Butler both

955
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: walk and draft or try to resign both. I have

956
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: no interest in resigning both of them. So you want

957
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: a draft? I honestly, and Terrence Williams is better than

958
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: he gets credit for. He is. He's a willing blocker,

959
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: he's a good teammate. He may he's got a pinch

960
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: of for making big plays, but he's not so great

961
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: that I want to pay what I think it's going

962
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: to cost. So I'm already mentally moving on. So him

963
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: Butler gone. You want a draft? Honestly, And like, Butler

964
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 1: did not have a great year, but I'm thinking he's

965
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: good enough and he's cheap. He should not be that

966
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: expensive based on his audio of work. Bring him back

967
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: on a very team friendly deal and then as your

968
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: number four, and then draft a new number two. All right,

969
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on the spot, eyeball test on

970
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: Cup as opposed to the other two, if you could

971
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: have Cup or Williams. I mean, but I love that.

972
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: I love Cooper Cup. I think he's great, and if

973
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: he you need to study him some more. But yeah,

974
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: well not only that, but you're talking about a rookie

975
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: going against other rookies in the Senior Bowl with guys

976
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: they don't know, as opposed to four year pros who

977
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: have played in the playoffs and stuff like that. But

978
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: I think your mind though, you have them both gone, Lances.

979
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: I told you this yesterday. He's white Jarvis Landry, and

980
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry's a stud like he's a I want. I

981
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: would want Cooper Cup on this team, and if he's there,

982
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if I feel comfortable drafting him at

983
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: twenty eight, but I definitely feel comfortable drafting him in

984
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: the second round. He's a very good player. Is Rod

985
00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: Mirnelli's uh? Is Rod mirnillis assuming that we talk is

986
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: Rod Mirinelli's style too particular with the players? I mean,

987
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, we always talk about the orphans, but the

988
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: question is is he too particular when he's evaluating players? Yeah? Maybe?

989
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: And I mean the fact that he doesn't, Oh, just

990
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: give me that guy, Just give me this guy, give

991
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: me that guy. Yeah, you know. I mean, is it

992
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: do you think it's time for Rod Rod Marinelli to

993
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: step up and say give me this guy and it'd

994
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: be a high level draft pick. It'd say it's the

995
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: twenty eighth player I instead of saying, oh, no, you

996
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: can just give me a fifth round guy and I'll

997
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: be okay. I think Rod Marinelli falls into the trap

998
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: of he's like, I want guys who hustle and who

999
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: work hard and bring their lunch pill every day. And

1000
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: that's a great attitude. You want that, but you need

1001
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: talent too, you need guy And that's what we talked

1002
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: about this defense not getting any takeaways. The Bears got takeaways.

1003
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: Charles Tillman got like twelve a year for like all

1004
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: peanut punch, Jeff, they're the DBS. Don't make players on

1005
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: the ball even I mean, can will play and Jerry

1006
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: convince him to do this, then they don't need to

1007
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: convince him to do anything. Don't Lay and Jerry make

1008
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: the calls. And you need to get a list from

1009
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: Rod of the guys that he likes and get him

1010
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: in here. And yeah, yeah, I mean, but he might

1011
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: not like the guys that we're talking about, those high

1012
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: level we're talking about defensive ends that could actually play

1013
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: instead of a guy down the line in the fourth,

1014
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: fifth round. He'll find a way to use them if

1015
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: they're there, and you can never predict it. You don't

1016
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: want to reach. Obviously, drafting for need can be dangerous,

1017
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: but all things being equal, the first player taken by

1018
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in this draft should be on defense. But

1019
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: he's just who knows long term trust? David Charles Tapper

1020
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: or Chaz Green? Are you drafting there at both spots? Um? Okay,

1021
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: well I would draft at both anyway regardless I get

1022
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: long term trust. I trust Chads more because I've seen

1023
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: him play and he played well. Ye you're talking about

1024
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: the health of both. Really, yeah, you trust him? Is

1025
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: the playing ability and the health wise or you letting

1026
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: you now worried because now you're gonna have to probably

1027
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 1: draft to those two spots. Here's the thing. Okay, you're

1028
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: not really counting on Charles Tapper to be a difference

1029
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: maker anyway he was. He was pick one on one,

1030
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: like you're wouldn't you when you wouldn't you expect him

1031
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: to be one on one at one on one. I

1032
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: expect him pick one thirty five, maybe the league ndpick.

1033
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: We were we expecting that, were we you drafted though?

1034
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: But if he goes back to Miranelli, I think once

1035
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: you're talking about fourth round picks, obviously you want all

1036
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: your draft picks to be good, Sure you do, but

1037
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: when you get into the fourth round, you're no longer

1038
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: talking about players that you expect to start and excel.

1039
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: You're not drafting Anthony at at at what d hellmanan

1040
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: d at the fourth The third round is a Dane

1041
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: said it last night. The third round, third up to

1042
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: the third round. You expect these guys to be starters.

1043
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: Everything after that you expect him to not be terrible

1044
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: and hope for the best. So with that in mind,

1045
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: Chaz is a third round pick. I'm expecting him. I

1046
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: need him to be the tackle of the future. When

1047
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: Doug Free is gone, Tapper, you need to fix d

1048
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: end anyway, they need to put resources into that regardless

1049
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: of what Tapper is. Would you agree with that? Yeah?

1050
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 1: I think so? Okay, So honestly, for me, do I

1051
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: sound crazy? Offensive tackle is the bigger concern in the

1052
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: long term because you don't have anything behind Doug Free.

1053
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: If Chas Green's no good whereas you need, you got

1054
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff you gotta fix on the defensive line.

1055
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: You're not looking at Charles Tapper to be your savior.

1056
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: Chaz Green needs to be something or else You're gonna

1057
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: have to draft somebody. So I don't know. Did I

1058
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: answer your question? Yeah, that's good. McDermott and or Banner.

1059
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: We talked about two pac twelve guys. Yeah, we look

1060
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: at tackles. I don't think it would be a bad

1061
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: idea to draft an offensive tackle in this draft. If

1062
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: I mean basically, I guess I could have summed up

1063
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: that way. Name a position you'd be surprised that the

1064
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: Cowboys would draft in the first round. I said this, Okay,

1065
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: they have no business drafting a quarterback, a running back,

1066
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: and I think a center. I forgot center. Yeah, no

1067
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: need for a center and a lineback. Linebacker, Yeah, I

1068
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: think those are the four where I would really be like, huh,

1069
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: Although now that I mean if something crazy happened, if

1070
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: if Leonard Fournette was sitting there at twenty eight and

1071
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: they just I mean it would It's not necessary, but

1072
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I mean, you're talking about BPA right. If

1073
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: injuries pushed Dalvin Cook to twenty eight and they draft

1074
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: would I would get it. I might not agree with it,

1075
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: but I would get it. But those four, those four positions,

1076
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: no go away. I don't give me a position you'd

1077
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: be surprised though they would draft any other one. No,

1078
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 1: I mean quarterback, running back, center, linebackery, everything else. Everything

1079
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: else is open. Kicker and punter obvious, Like, get that

1080
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: out of here. You're not drafting that long snapper. I

1081
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: think guard would be surprising, but I don't. The offensive

1082
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: line is your bread and Butter's the reason they're good

1083
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: in the first place. So I'm not gonna jump down

1084
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: their throats for doing that. Why what about you? No,

1085
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: I I think that to me. Every other position I

1086
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: think is you can you could talk me into doing it.

1087
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: You could talk me into a safety, a corner, an end,

1088
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: a d tackle, an offensive tackle, a wide receiver. What

1089
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: am I missing, I'm gonna get you. I didn't. This

1090
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: didn't then follow up with this question. Then here's my

1091
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: other question. Do you draft another mid round quarterback or

1092
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore? Or do you work out Johnny Manziel. What's

1093
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: gonna say? Get Johnny Manziel away from me. We've talked

1094
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 1: about this off the air. He might deserve another chance

1095
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: at the NFL. Work I said work out. I didn't

1096
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: say sign I said sorry, I said, draft a mid

1097
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: round quarterback Kellen Moore or workout Johnny Manziel. I think

1098
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: a young quarterback should be on this team, the same

1099
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: thing I said about the running back. Okay, draft me

1100
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the sixth round or sign a guy

1101
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: in me fall back up. Then what if that Clemson

1102
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: kids there at twenty eight Deshaun Watson? Yeah no, no,

1103
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: if if if Deshaun Watson's there at twenty eight, you

1104
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: leverage that into a trade with somebody who needs a

1105
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: quarter But you don't want to go back because you

1106
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: don't want to use to lose the fifth year option.

1107
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: That I'd rather have the picks than a quarterback that's

1108
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: gonna not do anything at all. He's not gonna do

1109
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: anything he's gonna sit behind freaking MVP candidate Dak Prescott.

1110
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: There's no neat no, And yeah, you lose the fifth

1111
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: year option. I'd still what if you what if I

1112
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: told you, all right, they go back from twenty, I

1113
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: think you'd be a pretty good fit for how they

1114
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: play offense. Now, what if I told you you could

1115
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: have two top fifty picks instead of Deshaun Watson. Oh,

1116
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: then and there's a fifth year option. Is gonna help

1117
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: him on Zach Martin? Here two top fifty picks and

1118
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: then your second round picks, So you get three picks

1119
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: in the top sixty or so as opposed to a quarterback.

1120
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: You need to learn the whole draft, though, before I

1121
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: think I know, I don't. It would suck to lose

1122
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: the fifth year option. It doesn't make even a lick

1123
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: of sense to draft Deshaun Watson. I'd rather have Leonard

1124
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: Fournette collecting cobwebs behind Zeke than Deshaun Watson. Just that

1125
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: doesn't know that was not going to be there or not.

1126
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: It's January. We're just quarterbacks so much in the first round,

1127
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: you have to trade that pick if that's what happens.

1128
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: If it's any quarterback if and you said BPA, right

1129
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: them the Broncos or the Seahawks just did this, didn't

1130
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: they Are they traded back to thirty two though, Yeah,

1131
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: they traded back and then they took the tackle the

1132
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: tackle guard? Fine, tex I mean you want the fifth

1133
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: year option. But in that case, I would trade Pat

1134
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: Mahomes interest you mid round guy maybe Texas Tech. Absolutely.

1135
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: If I mean we don't have a fifth rounifth round, yeah,

1136
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: we don't have a fifth round pick right now, but

1137
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: if we did, yeah, I would draft that guy in

1138
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: a heartbeat in the round. Kaya Kaya, Sure, I would

1139
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: rather have Davis Webb as a priority free agent than

1140
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: give Johnny manziella workout. I know that you would. Do

1141
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 1: you think Johnny Man's is going to get a work out?

1142
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's talk about the draft. Not thought

1143
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: about him, but he was on their board pretty high

1144
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: one time. He's got a lot more work to do

1145
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 1: than just admitting he was a douche on Twitter before

1146
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: I buy that he's like ready to get to work

1147
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: in this offense would be good for him. He's got

1148
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: a lot of work to do. Stop he could play

1149
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: in this offense. Stop here we go running out of time.

1150
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: Here's my last question for you. When it comes to

1151
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: picking players, who has the most influence over Jerry Jones?

1152
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: Take Stephen out of the equation, Will McClay or Jason Garrett.

1153
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: How can you take Stephen out of the equation? Well,

1154
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: just take him out of the equation. I'm just trying

1155
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: to take can't though, it's all, It's all. I'm just saying, Okay,

1156
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: it's going to Stephen and Jerry both. Who has the

1157
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: most influence over the Joneses, Will McClay or Jason Garrett

1158
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: picking players? Will? It should be Will. If it's not.

1159
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: This is Will's job all year round, and he's got

1160
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: a pretty damn good resume. You're not gonna give Jason

1161
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: credit for the right kind of guy? Man, the right

1162
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: kind of guy tred goes out the window on occasion.

1163
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: So not really, I don't I don't know. I don't

1164
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: necessarily buy that. No, I seem to remember it by

1165
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: the way I seem to of course, of course they

1166
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: don't need to give him any gear at the Pro Bowlers.

1167
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: I seem to remember some defensive ends joining this roster

1168
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Who, Yeah, we're good football players,

1169
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: but not the right kinds of guys. Um, do you

1170
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: think do you think looking back at Randy Gregor, do

1171
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: you think that Jason Garrett was talked into that one?

1172
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: And DeMarcus Lawrence? And I mean, I know he's not

1173
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: drop pick, but Greg, are you too? Um? Probably? Yeah,

1174
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: if I had to guess, probably, And that I mean,

1175
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: and that's I mean, that's the m of the draft.

1176
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: So you're talking about yesterday. He got a lot of problems,

1177
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: but he's a hell of a talented football player. And

1178
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: sometimes it works out for you and sometimes it doesn't. Um,

1179
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 1: I think Will, I think the brain trust of Will

1180
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: and Stephen is the engine that drives Cowboys. I agree

1181
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: with your draft strategy. I agree with you on that.

1182
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: So all rightfully they can keep it going. We're about

1183
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: to be done here. Some just some final thoughts, So

1184
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: thanks for playing with the game. Yeah, I hope we

1185
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: got you guys thinking a little bit at home. Still

1186
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 1: want a draft? I mean I always tie all these

1187
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: free agent moves into and you can't. You can't draft everybody. No,

1188
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: but you know what, I'm interested to see at the

1189
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: bottom of the board if they if we do see

1190
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: a surprise pick. I mean, that's that's the prime and

1191
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: maybe it's not going to be a quarterback, but I

1192
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: that's the prime territory to do something like that, because

1193
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: at twenty eight we couldn't pass up this guy. At

1194
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: twenty eight, you're talking about a guy who either fell

1195
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: or a guy who's not a first round grade. Like

1196
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: that's so it's the prime time to do something like that.

1197
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: I hook Travis Frederick at thirty. Not many people thought

1198
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: that they were going to do that. I support it,

1199
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: and honestly I wrote about this today. I know we're

1200
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: running out of time, but last year it was we

1201
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: are screwed without a quarterback. We gotta do this, we

1202
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: gotta fix this. We won four games right this year,

1203
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: I know the pass rushing help, I know the cornerback

1204
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: situation is iffy. But this year, I think you're coming

1205
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: into this with a different mindset, is like, all right,

1206
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: let's just take stock. We've got we got some holes

1207
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: to fill, but this is a good core and we

1208
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: can We've got some freedom to kind of play around here.

1209
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna make it interesting. I like what

1210
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: you said, Okay, well that's gonna do it for us

1211
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: here in Mobile, Alabama, I want to thank everybody out

1212
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: there once skin for watching us, for listening, for tweeting,

1213
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: for being involved again. I hope we educated you a

1214
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: little bit more today. For my buddy David Hellman, for

1215
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: Dave Burglar, who's not here, hopefully safely back in Dallas.

1216
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: For Kent Garrison executive producer Ed Khill, Thank you, Derek Eagleton,

1217
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: thank you, and Taylor Stern thank you for always pushing

1218
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: out our stuff. You've been listening to the Draft show.

1219
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: We'll see you next Thursday. From the Star in Frisco.

1220
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: Take care, guys,