Speaker 1: Welcome in walch Draight with the great episode three seventeen,
Speaker 1: fresh off a wild NCAA Tournament championship game and maybe
Speaker 1: wilder Western Conference playoff bracket as we head into the
Speaker 1: final five days of the season, and we have right
Speaker 1: now five teams all with thirty two losses both of
Speaker 1: those topics. Shortly on the show, and then as promised
Speaker 1: last week, we will do our annual NFL Over Unders
Speaker 1: NFL Win Total show. These these are not locked for us.
Speaker 1: We will do our preseason gambling show post draft. Obviously
Speaker 1: it's post free agency, late in training camp where we
Speaker 1: actually make these bets. Now the heads up for the
Speaker 1: gambling stuff we're doing shortly. There might be a few
Speaker 1: that we like so much that we just say we're
Speaker 1: gonna bet them right now. We will if we say that,
Speaker 1: we will mark those down and count those toward our
Speaker 1: season long ledger that we you know, do the accounting
Speaker 1: for at the very end of the football season. But
Speaker 1: some of these are just leans in one direction or another.
Speaker 1: We'll do all of that, uh, before we get to that.
Speaker 1: Welcome in, Demanse, Demanse, how are you I know this
Speaker 1: is the single most banal topic of any phone call
Speaker 1: or even a podcast. But I am curious. What is
Speaker 1: the weather like in Los Angeles right now?
Speaker 2: It's pretty amazing, pretty good, I'd.
Speaker 1: Say it is. Still It's April eighth. The Masters starts Thursday.
Speaker 1: It's forty something degrees in New York. I am. It
Speaker 1: has gone on long enough that your mother came downstairs
Speaker 1: today and just said to me, I think I need
Speaker 1: to go away for a month. Not me, her, She's like,
Speaker 1: I just I just need to go somewhere warm for
Speaker 1: a month. She said, the weather is just sapping my energy.
Speaker 1: So at some point the way, it's gotta get warm
Speaker 1: in New York. At that point, deep, it's man. Usually
Speaker 1: April's like a top tier New York month. Whatever. Nobody cares.
Speaker 1: All right, here's what missed the cut. Alex Ovechkin breaks
Speaker 1: a record that I did not think was breakable, the
Speaker 1: Gretzky scoring record. Now, let me also say something else
Speaker 1: I don't. I think it's very important on this show
Speaker 1: to not pretend to be an expert on everything. People
Speaker 1: get themselves in trouble. You pretend to be an expert
Speaker 1: on everything, you might all of a sudden find yourself
Speaker 1: talking lebron in the morning, Govetchkin in the afternoons, and
Speaker 1: the Gaza Strip at night. No one would do that
Speaker 1: and then seriously say they're gonna run for president and
Speaker 1: then be wrong about all three. I try not to,
Speaker 1: you know, pretend that I know to mix some tariff
Speaker 1: stuff in there as well be an expert on everything.
Speaker 1: But I'm a diehard sports fan, and I'm enough of
Speaker 1: a diehard sports fan to know Wayne Gretzky is the
Speaker 1: only athlete I've ever seen that if you go to
Speaker 1: his Wikipedia page, even though the Internet is endless and
Speaker 1: a page can just scroll forever, and you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: what records does Wayne Gretzky have, you have to go
Speaker 1: to a separate Wikipedia page where it's like, actually, all
Speaker 1: of Wayne Gretzky's records are here. So I just assumed
Speaker 1: this was unbreakable. And then when I heard Ovechkin broke it,
Speaker 1: or when I obviously I knew he was going to
Speaker 1: break it the last month or so it's been in
Speaker 1: the news, and I just said, again, folks can say
Speaker 1: bad sports fan, Nick for not knowing this. I assumed
Speaker 1: Ovechkin must be like a Bobby Ors style guy that
Speaker 1: played until his mid forties, and then I saw alex
Speaker 1: Ovechkin after he broke the record, and I was like, oh, confirmed,
Speaker 1: this guy played until his late forties. Turns out alex
Speaker 1: Ovechkin is thirty nine years old. That is a hard
Speaker 1: thirty nine for alex Ovechkin. He's younger than me now
Speaker 1: and and incredibly wealthy. Say it again, No, it's not
Speaker 1: just the it's not just the greay. It just like
Speaker 1: and maybe it's the you know, the the that coming
Speaker 1: up you know in Russia is tough. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: but alex Ovechkin, for a guy that rich and that successful,
Speaker 1: you know, that's a hard thirty nine. But unbelievable. He
Speaker 1: breaks s Gretzky's record. Everyone thought it was unbreakable. Here's
Speaker 1: something almost as unbelievable. Gino Wriama Demonse has coached in
Speaker 1: thirteen National Championship Games. That in and of itself is remarkable.
Speaker 1: He's twelve and one in those games. Twelve and one
Speaker 1: in the National Championship Games. I'm so happy for Paige.
Speaker 1: I think she you know that her recruiting class, the
Speaker 1: top five for her high school class page, Angel Caitlin,
Speaker 1: Oh the Bank, Cameron Brink Yes. And then Cardosa. Those five,
Speaker 1: all of them champions, oddly except for Caitlyn and Page
Speaker 1: had to stick around a year longer because she blew
Speaker 1: out her knee. She got her title. Hopefully Juju can
Speaker 1: have the same trajectory gets delayed because you blew out
Speaker 1: the knee, goes and win the title. And then the
Speaker 1: other big game this weekend that didn't miss the couple.
Speaker 1: We'll do it quickly and then we'll get to it more.
Speaker 1: In the West playoff push segment was the Lakers dog
Speaker 1: walking the Thunder and my what, what's your little woe?
Speaker 2: Thunder?
Speaker 1: They weren't in that game. I mean, they played all
Speaker 1: their guys and the I said on the TV show
Speaker 1: Friday that the perfect weekend for the Lakers was beating
Speaker 1: the Thunder. I'm sorry, beating the Pelicans, beating the Thunder
Speaker 1: and then sitting everyone Tuesday and when they play the
Speaker 1: Thunder again tonight. And I don't know if you've seen
Speaker 1: the points spread in that game, but it's okay see
Speaker 1: minus fifteen because Vegas thinks that's exactly what the Lakers
Speaker 1: are gonna do, and basically denying the Thunder the opportunity
Speaker 1: for any get back, leaving in the back of their head.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Luca knocked us out of the playoffs
Speaker 1: last year. They just crushed us this year. Luca's team,
Speaker 1: we still have no one to guard him. That to
Speaker 1: me is absolutely ideal, particularly when the other reason I
Speaker 1: said they should rest guys is they play they being
Speaker 1: the Lakers the MAVs tomorrow. So the Lakers since Saturday
Speaker 1: will have played the Thunder the Thunder again and then
Speaker 1: the MAVs. The MAVs have not played since Saturday, so
Speaker 1: the Lakers it would be their third game in four nights.
Speaker 1: The MAVs would be their first game in four nights.
Speaker 1: So now they're letting their guys rest and be ready
Speaker 1: for that game knowing and again more on this in
Speaker 1: the Western Rammicks playoff bracket stuff, if the Lakers go
Speaker 1: two and two in their final four, they lock up
Speaker 1: the three seed. If we just chalk tonight up as
Speaker 1: a loss, what it means is MAVs Rockets Tanking Blazers
Speaker 1: final game of the year. If you win two of
Speaker 1: those games, you lock up the three seed, which is
Speaker 1: gold for the Western Conference. My other takeaway for thunder
Speaker 1: Lakers before we get to last night's championship game. The Thunder,
Speaker 1: more so than any team the Western Conference, have so
Speaker 1: much depth defensively, and even the Thunder found themselves in
Speaker 1: a spot where it's like, hold on, if my best
Speaker 1: wing defender is on Luca and my second best wing
Speaker 1: defender is on Lebron, then who the hell is guarding
Speaker 1: Austin Reeves. And when you look at the Western Conference
Speaker 1: playoffs and you look across every team the Lakers could
Speaker 1: play and say power rank their wing defenders, all of
Speaker 1: these teams have at least one really good one, a
Speaker 1: couple have two pretty good ones. Only the Thunder have
Speaker 1: three really good ones. Everyone else, Austin Reeves is just
Speaker 1: going to be feasting on a meeting bad defensive player.
Speaker 1: And the Rockets have two awesome ones in Amen Thompson
Speaker 1: and Dylan Brooks, But who's the third? And so that's
Speaker 1: going to be a sneaky, huge edge for the Lakers
Speaker 1: in any series. As far as I am not going
Speaker 1: to act as if because of that game, oh there's
Speaker 1: you know, systemic issues with the Thunder, and Thunder gonna
Speaker 1: win sixty seven games, they're awesome. The concerns, however, would
Speaker 1: be as follows. The youth is just never seeing a
Speaker 1: team this young make the finals, much less win it.
Speaker 1: Everyone has said that is your second best guy good enough?
Speaker 1: That's a Jalen Williams chet Holmgren question. We'll see how
Speaker 1: will the playoff whistle impact Shay? He seemed to get
Speaker 1: it this weekend against the Rockets and the Lakers and
Speaker 1: it impacted them a bit. And then this is the
Speaker 1: last piece of it that I have not heard enough
Speaker 1: people make the point of when it comes to handicapping
Speaker 1: the Thunder for this championship. One of the reasons the
Speaker 1: Thunder have this insane point differential is they are legit
Speaker 1: twelve quality NBA players deep, and so even when they
Speaker 1: have guys out, and certainly when they go to their bench,
Speaker 1: their bench is so much better than the other team's
Speaker 1: bench in the playoffs. How good your ninth, tenth, eleventh,
Speaker 1: and twelve guys are is mostly irrelevant because you're really
Speaker 1: just playing seven or eight guys, So will that edge
Speaker 1: be muted a bit? Those are all legitimate questions. Remember,
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Speaker 1: But now to the championship game last night Demon Day.
Speaker 1: I was pulling for Houston because of our ties to Houston.
Speaker 1: I also like Kelvin Sampson, tell us what happened?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean Houston went from winning that crazy
Speaker 2: one against Duke on Saturday. I mean we have I've
Speaker 2: been pulling for Houston, but that rep should be investigated
Speaker 2: from that game on Saturday. Okay, but yeah, so they
Speaker 2: lost the crazy one to Florida yesterday off of the
Speaker 2: potential double drib or whatever. What are your thoughts on
Speaker 2: the tournament and how it ended.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have a lot of thoughts here. Houston
Speaker 1: did not get a shot up, not on the final possession,
Speaker 1: on their final four possessions. They didn't hit the rim
Speaker 1: seemingly for the last two minutes of that game. And
Speaker 1: somebody had a tweet that I wish I could give
Speaker 1: them credit because I thought it was really funny and
Speaker 1: actually pretty kind of profound almost talking about Houston's style
Speaker 1: because they're just such a ferocious, relentless, tough defensive team.
Speaker 1: Where they said, I imagine Houston's practices are just three
Speaker 1: hours of suicides and punching each other in the face,
Speaker 1: and that kind of is how they played. But there's
Speaker 1: downside to that, which is they never you never felt
Speaker 1: like they were against a great team going to be
Speaker 1: able to definitively put them away. And they had opportunities
Speaker 1: against Florida to put them away when that defense was
Speaker 1: just giving Florida fits, and Florida's you know, stuck around,
Speaker 1: just like Houston did against Duke, just long enough to
Speaker 1: where you see the college kids tighten up and Houston's
Speaker 1: kids tightened up. Walter Clayton Junior, you know, had a
Speaker 1: great final flourish in this game after you know, with
Speaker 1: five minutes left in this game, it looked like this
Speaker 1: was gonna be the first game in two years he
Speaker 1: had a sixty one game streak of hitting a three.
Speaker 1: He didn't hit one until late in the game. He
Speaker 1: obviously didn't score his first basket until late late in
Speaker 1: the first half or was it early second half, I
Speaker 1: don't even remember, but Florida was able to stick around
Speaker 1: and then steal it at the end. Not getting a
Speaker 1: shot off in that spot is just the stuff of
Speaker 1: apps nightmares for a coach. But they didn't get a
Speaker 1: shot off like it was if you just look at
Speaker 1: what Houston did over the final two minutes, because one
Speaker 1: of the possessions they did get a shot up, it
Speaker 1: was essentially an air balled layup. They were getting no
Speaker 1: good looks. And when you go to the waning moments
Speaker 1: of the game, after LJ. Cryer made missed a layup
Speaker 1: and then tipped in his own miss with two thirty left,
Speaker 1: here were Houston's possessions. Made a free throw, then missed
Speaker 1: a free throw, badly missed the three offensive rebound miss jumper,
Speaker 1: offensive rebound, turnover, turnover, turnover, turnover. To not get a
Speaker 1: shot on the rim in the final two minutes of
Speaker 1: the ninety seconds of the game is just so crushing
Speaker 1: and you feel so sick for Kelvin Samson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but my I mean.
Speaker 1: Because again, yeah, seventy say it again that Oh yeah, well, no,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the coach LJ. Cryer. LJ. Cryer the
Speaker 1: back to back turnovers and then Emmanuel Sharp had the
Speaker 1: back to back turnovers late. I mean both there. But
Speaker 1: for Kelvin who was a great coach, got a show
Speaker 1: cause penalty and got run out of college basketball for
Speaker 1: a while, came back and what he's done at Houston
Speaker 1: is remarkable since he's been there. It's our buddy. Buddy's
Speaker 1: probably too strong. But the kid we root for, Quinton Grimes,
Speaker 1: you know, was there and they were a legitimate contender
Speaker 1: since he's been there. So Calvin Sampson took over a
Speaker 1: mediocre team. His first year, they're thirteen to nineteen. His
Speaker 1: next two years they're in the NIC and then since then,
Speaker 1: this is what they've done. Twenty seven wins, and they
Speaker 1: won a tournament game, thirty three wins, and get popped
Speaker 1: in the Sweet sixteen, then COVID year, then twenty eight wins,
Speaker 1: Final four, thirty two wins, Elite eight, thirty three wins,
Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen, thirty two wins, Sweet sixteen, thirty five wins,
Speaker 1: lose the championship game by two, and you know, you
Speaker 1: you hope he has another great shot. You don't know
Speaker 1: if he's gonna have another great shot. He turned seventy
Speaker 1: next season, he'll keep coaching. But man, oh man, it
Speaker 1: as much as they stole one from Duke, they absolutely
Speaker 1: let one get away. And so I had two recurring
Speaker 1: thoughts in that game. One was Duke had to be
Speaker 1: watching this game, like, you gotta be fucking kidding me,
Speaker 1: Like the we we should be in this game. And
Speaker 1: you know they they their collapse was different than Houston's. There.
Speaker 1: I know you put it on that you hate. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a bad call. Bad college drafts are bad, and
Speaker 1: the review process in college basketball is truly truly awful.
Speaker 1: And what nobody ever acknowledges when they're like, oh they
Speaker 1: have to get it right and oh, we've got the
Speaker 1: tenths of a second could matter. And I bring up
Speaker 1: every time, you know what also matters fatigue and these
Speaker 1: this idea that being the better conditioned team should you
Speaker 1: should lose all edge from that in the final two
Speaker 1: minutes of these games, because every out of bounds call
Speaker 1: there's going to be a one to four minute break
Speaker 1: to review it. I hate it so much, But set
Speaker 1: that aside. My other takeaway from really this entire tournament,
Speaker 1: but certainly the final four. We had four number one seats.
Speaker 1: We had by kin Palm rankings, four of the best
Speaker 1: college basketball teams of the last decade all playing. And
Speaker 1: despite that, you've never seen a better illustration for the
Speaker 1: glaring and massive gap between the talent and skill level
Speaker 1: between guys who are good enough to be starters and
Speaker 1: big time players for the best college basketball teams in
Speaker 1: the country and guys who are good enough to play
Speaker 1: in the NBA. Like college basketball in the modern era,
Speaker 1: where guys don't stick around typically for that long, the
Speaker 1: best players never do, and teams don't stick together. The
Speaker 1: gap between that and the skill and talent and ability
Speaker 1: it takes to play in the NBA is the widest
Speaker 1: it's ever been, and it's why a guy like Walter
Speaker 1: Clayton junior, who is going to be goes into the
Speaker 1: tournament a fringe first round pick, can just dominate and
Speaker 1: when most outstanding player like it is. I know there
Speaker 1: are some people, particularly where I'm from in the Midwest,
Speaker 1: that swear and I always thought this was an odd
Speaker 1: stance to hold love college basketball hate the NBA. Now
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you have to like the NBA more
Speaker 1: than college basketball. Again, they're different sports to teach their own.
Speaker 1: But that was always felt to me a more than
Speaker 1: a little racially charged opinion. The love college basketball hate
Speaker 1: the NBA take because you simply never hear that in
Speaker 1: college football. Certainly have people that like college football more
Speaker 1: than the NFL, but I've never once met a single
Speaker 1: person who's, like, I love college football, can't stand the NFL.
Speaker 1: But you do hear that sometimes College basketballt least where
Speaker 1: I grew up, used to all the time, and I
Speaker 1: always thought that was a little quizzical. But they're they're
Speaker 1: just so vastly different products. Throughout this tournament, when guys
Speaker 1: made open shots, you were impressed. In the NBA, if
Speaker 1: a guy misses an open shot, you are shocked. And
Speaker 1: this game, being stuck in the forties late into the
Speaker 1: second half, just a vivid reminder of how incredibly difficult
Speaker 1: it is for the guys who actually can make it
Speaker 1: to the league. But congrats of Florida. Walter Clayton junior
Speaker 1: going into this year, Demonse on most mock drafts was
Speaker 1: not even a second rounder going into this tournament. In
Speaker 1: most mock drafts, was a fringe first second rounder. And
Speaker 1: now he's probably gonna be a late lottery pick. He's
Speaker 1: a little older. He's not that athletic man, old man
Speaker 1: that say it.
Speaker 2: Again, late lottery pick.
Speaker 1: No, it's awesome, it's great. What he has working against
Speaker 1: him is he doesn't have the great athleticism and he's
Speaker 1: played for five years and so or four years. So
Speaker 1: people are always, you know, twenty two to twenty three,
Speaker 1: how high is the ceiling? But I wonder if he
Speaker 1: could have a Dalton Connects style draft day where when
Speaker 1: he gets he gets drafted by a decent team or
Speaker 1: a good team and people are like, oh man, he
Speaker 1: can maybe help you immediately, even if he doesn't have
Speaker 1: like all star potential. All right, let's go to the
Speaker 1: NBA before we get to our NFL over unders.
Speaker 2: So things are gonna come down to the wire. On
Speaker 2: the West side, everyone from the three to eight seed
Speaker 2: are separated by max of two games, and then everybody
Speaker 2: from the four to eight are basically tied and losses.
Speaker 2: So how do you think it's gonna go?
Speaker 1: So, first of all, credit to the Rockets for removing
Speaker 1: themselves from this group. The Rockets are I I thought
Speaker 1: the Rockets were about to get punched in the face
Speaker 1: by the schedule because and I think we talked about
Speaker 1: it last week, their final five games were Thunder Warriors,
Speaker 1: and then and they played those two already and won them.
Speaker 1: And then it goes Clippers Lakers, Nuggets. But it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter now because and this actually could work in the
Speaker 1: Lakers favor. I don't know if what the Rockets will do,
Speaker 1: but the Rockets just need to either win one or
Speaker 1: have the Lakers lose one and they lock up the
Speaker 1: two seed. So because the Lakers max out at fifty
Speaker 1: two wins, the Rockets already at fifty two wins, so
Speaker 1: if the Lakers. So here's why I say this could
Speaker 1: work out in the Lakers favor. If the Lakers lose
Speaker 1: tonight to the Thunder, which they will, the Rockets lock
Speaker 1: the two seed. No matter what. Will that make the
Speaker 1: Rockets in Game eighty one against the Lakers rest some
Speaker 1: people I don't know now, maybe they would feel like
Speaker 1: they don't need to. But set that aside. Credit to
Speaker 1: the Rockets for handling their business. Now to the three
Speaker 1: through eight, and we can throw it on the screen
Speaker 1: the Lakers. The reason that Lakers two game lead is
Speaker 1: actually a three game lead is this. They have the
Speaker 1: tiebreaker over literally every single team on the screen. There,
Speaker 1: Nuggets are the four, Clippers, of the five, Warriors, of
Speaker 1: the six, Timbrelves of the seven, Grizzlies of the eight,
Speaker 1: Lakers forty eight and thirty, Nuggets forty seven and thirty two,
Speaker 1: and then Clippers, Warriors, Timberlves, Grizzlies all forty six and
Speaker 1: thirty two. The Lakers have the tiebreaker with every one
Speaker 1: of those teams. That is a symptom of the fact.
Speaker 1: In one of the craziest stats of the season, the
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City Thunder this year the Western Conference are thirty
Speaker 1: five and thirteen. The Los Angeles Lakers against the Western
Speaker 1: Conference are thirty four and fourteen. So why are the
Speaker 1: Thunder gonna win sixty seven and the Lakers are right
Speaker 1: now sitting at forty eight. Well, the Thunder are twenty
Speaker 1: nine to one against the East and the Lakers are
Speaker 1: They are fourteen and sixteen against the East. So I
Speaker 1: mean that's the difference in the standings, but that is
Speaker 1: given the Lakers the tiebreaker over everyone. So I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna go like this. The Lakers lose tonight, they
Speaker 1: beat Dallas and then maybe they beat Houston. If they
Speaker 1: don't beat Houston, they certainly beat Portland and they are
Speaker 1: the three. And now the interesting piece of it, Denver,
Speaker 1: which is falling apart, has not recovered from the Westbrook debacle.
Speaker 1: Joker can just put up four, forty five, fifteen and
Speaker 1: fifteen every night, it doesn't matter. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if you heard what Michael Malone said the other day,
Speaker 1: when Michael Malone said, yeah, Jamal Murray, we hope he's
Speaker 1: ready for the playoffs. That's concerning. I think Denver is
Speaker 1: going to lose to Memphis. Let's assume they beat Houston,
Speaker 1: because that'll be game eighty two for Houston, and Houston
Speaker 1: likely is not gonna, you know, be playing their people.
Speaker 1: Whether or not Denver falls to the play d will
Speaker 1: likely be determined by how they do against Sacramento in
Speaker 1: Denver when they play on what do they play tonight
Speaker 1: or Wednesday? I should have had that up in front
Speaker 1: of me. I apologize Denver plays tomorrow when they play
Speaker 1: Sacramento tomorrow, the Clippers again, so much of this is
Speaker 1: predicated by what the Rockets do as far as resting guys,
Speaker 1: cause the Clippers play the Spurs tonight, so the Clippers
Speaker 1: will win tonight, and then the Clippers play Houston next.
Speaker 1: But the question is is Houston, assuming the Lakers lose tonight,
Speaker 1: gonna be playing their guys. If they are, then that
Speaker 1: should be a great game. The Clippers after that are
Speaker 1: at Sacramento at Golden State. Golden State has an absolute
Speaker 1: three consecutive layups at Phoenix. I saw Phoenix in person
Speaker 1: at the Garden Friday night that they are cooked, so
Speaker 1: pix Golden State will beat Phoenix, then the Spurs, who
Speaker 1: don't want to win, then the Blazers. So Golden State
Speaker 1: is going to be forty nine and thirty two going
Speaker 1: into the final game against the Clippers, which the Clippers
Speaker 1: are going to need to win potentially to avoid the
Speaker 1: play in, potentially for seeding. So Warriors Clippers game eighty
Speaker 1: two massive. Right. The Grizzlies are at Milwaukee, at Memphis,
Speaker 1: and then home for Brooklyn in Utah. So Minnesota, Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: and Utah are auto wins. Those teams are not trying.
Speaker 1: If they beat Milwaukee tonight, then Minnesota has a real
Speaker 1: chance of not only climbing out of the play in,
Speaker 1: but climbing all the way to the four to five line.
Speaker 1: And then Memphis it likely comes they're at Charlotte. That's
Speaker 1: to win home for Minnesota at Denver, home for Dallas.
Speaker 1: So let's let's do it like this. What are the
Speaker 1: guaranteed victories on teams schedule for the Lakers Just one
Speaker 1: game eighty two against Portland. The Lakers will then need
Speaker 1: to win one other game to lock up the three
Speaker 1: Oka se Dallas, Houston. They're gonna lose Okay sees. They've
Speaker 1: beat Dallas or Houston for Denver, zero guaranteed victories Sacramento, Memphis, Houston,
Speaker 1: So no guaranteed victories for the Clippers. One game the
Speaker 1: Clippers put them at forty seven wins. They have the
Speaker 1: Spurs game, then Houston, Sacramento, Golden State for Golden State,
Speaker 1: three guaranteed victories Phoenix, Spurs, Portland, and then that Clipper
Speaker 1: game for Minnesota. So put Golden State at forty nine wins.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this in the so I can just
Speaker 1: see it. So Denver forty seven with three questions, the
Speaker 1: Clippers forty seven with three questions. As far as the games,
Speaker 1: the Warriors forty nine, one question game Minnesota at Milwaukee,
Speaker 1: at Memphis tof home for Brooklyn and Utah they're at
Speaker 1: forty eight with two questions, and then Memphis at Charlotte
Speaker 1: three questions. Yeah, forty exactly forty seven. So the games
Speaker 1: that are going to determine the Western Conference playoff bracket
Speaker 1: is all of Denver's games against Sacramento, Memphis in Houston,
Speaker 1: the Clippers games against Houston, Sacramento, and Golden State. For
Speaker 1: the Golden State that one game against the Clippers, and
Speaker 1: for Minnesota, they're games at Milwaukee and at Memphis. That's it.
Speaker 1: And so right now I would think the most likely
Speaker 1: seeding is as follows. One Oklahoma City locked, two Houston
Speaker 1: essentially locked, three Lakers close to essentially locked for Golden State, five, Minnesota,
Speaker 1: six the Clippers, Lakers, Clippers around won't be fun. Seven
Speaker 1: Denver eight, Memphis. That's how I think it's gonna fall out.
Speaker 2: Is that ideal for you? Are there any matchups things? Well?
Speaker 1: The ideal for the Lakers well, and by the way,
Speaker 1: that's set the seven eight obviously, then there's a play
Speaker 1: in situation. The ideal for the Lakers. Everybody wants Memphis.
Speaker 1: The ideal for the Lakers is Memphis getting to the
Speaker 1: three line. I don't think that's happening. I would would
Speaker 1: I rather play Minnesota or would I rather play the Clippers.
Speaker 1: I would rather play Clipper's been really tough since Kawhi
Speaker 1: came back, since Kawai has been playing like this, I'd
Speaker 1: probably rather play Minnesota now later in the playoffs, I'd
Speaker 1: take my chances with sadly Kawhi not holding up, but
Speaker 1: in round one with him playing like this, they're dangerous.
Speaker 1: The thing is, everybody's dangerous. But if you're the Lakers,
Speaker 1: you can't worry about round one. If it were to
Speaker 1: play out to where you are on the opposite side
Speaker 1: of the bracket of OKC and round two looks like
Speaker 1: it's Golden State OKC, you sign up for that if
Speaker 1: you you know, if you if you're the Lakers, and
Speaker 1: you're only gonna have to be one of Golden State
Speaker 1: or Oklahoma City, and they have to they play each
Speaker 1: other in a war in round two, while with respect,
Speaker 1: you're probably playing the Rockets. That is the ideal situation,
Speaker 1: and I think it's what they've set themselves up.
Speaker 2: I think the Rockets are going to be dangerous in
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I know you say, and they're young and
Speaker 2: all that. I think they have a great championships.
Speaker 1: That's fair. They have and they have a great coach.
Speaker 1: Dylan Brook's gonna see Lebron in a playoff series and
Speaker 1: once again be like it's Dylan Brook's time, and I
Speaker 1: don't trust Jaialen Green. Now, Amen Thompson is a monster
Speaker 1: as a young player, and Shingoon's great. Shingoon's great. But
Speaker 1: I again, the West is brutal. None of these are easy,
Speaker 1: but it's you.
Speaker 2: Know it easy. I'm not saying like they can win, Okay,
Speaker 2: I said, I know, I said defense wins championships. But
Speaker 2: I think they can mess somebody's road up, think knock
Speaker 2: a team out early.
Speaker 1: But you but you're kind of treating them demonte like
Speaker 1: they're not the two seed. They're like the two seed
Speaker 1: playing to their seed means they're in the conference finals.
Speaker 1: I don't see that happening. Like now, listen, maybe they
Speaker 1: maybe somebody clips clips the Lakers and they beat them,
Speaker 1: or maybe they can beat the Lakers. But I I
Speaker 1: think Houston, Houston has earned enough for me to wear
Speaker 1: at this point. I will almost assuredly be picking them
Speaker 1: in their Round one series. I don't I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know what I say that I don't know if
Speaker 1: i'd pick them against Minnesota. I think Minnesota could be tough.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I could see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they could win. I just but I think
Speaker 1: I'd probably pick Minnesota. This is always fun. So we
Speaker 1: are going to go division by division all thirty Now
Speaker 1: I am not I will address all thirty two teams
Speaker 1: win totals, but there's what I've already looked at this
Speaker 1: obviously quite a bit. Some of these I'm just like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: that line is right, Like I you know, usually Vegas
Speaker 1: is pretty good at these, And anybody that's gonna give
Speaker 1: you at this point in the year a lean on
Speaker 1: all thirty two, that's too much for me. Shout out,
Speaker 1: by the way, double shout outs. Actually, shout out to
Speaker 1: Zach Lowe for bringing his podcast back, The Zach Lowe
Speaker 1: Show signed on with Bill Simmons and The Ringer, And
Speaker 1: shout out to Bill who last year in his preseason
Speaker 1: Over Unders podcast went twenty seven and five with preseason
Speaker 1: win totals, which is just remarkable. So double shout outs
Speaker 1: to those guys. All right, this is the way too
Speaker 1: Early Over Unders. Start with the AFC East. We'll do
Speaker 1: each division basically from highest projected win total to lowest.
Speaker 1: Demon's a give me each team and then I'll tell
Speaker 1: you if I have a lien or not.
Speaker 2: First we've got the Buffalo Bills other over unders set
Speaker 2: at eleven and a half.
Speaker 1: Over under set eleven and a half, heavy juice minus
Speaker 1: won forty five on the over, and this, to me
Speaker 1: is that number is just right, and I'll stay away
Speaker 1: from it like that. If I had to pick one,
Speaker 1: I would go over. However, minus won forty five's too much,
Speaker 1: and I mean they're smart people expect the Bills at
Speaker 1: this point, with healthy Josh Allen, you're gonna win double
Speaker 1: digit games. It'd be a hard under to go with,
Speaker 1: but I'll stay away from that.
Speaker 2: Next, you got the Dolphins over under at eight and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 1: That's exactly that's the end, with a little bit of
Speaker 1: juice on the under minus one thirty. That is to
Speaker 1: me a exactly right line. I think the Dolphins will
Speaker 1: win eight or nine games. That is perfect. Last year,
Speaker 1: by the way, the preseason total was ten and a half.
Speaker 1: But I am that to me is a stay away.
Speaker 2: Next one, we got the Patriots. They're over unders eight
Speaker 2: and a half, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So this is juice to the under as it
Speaker 1: should be. It's minus one forty to the under. This is,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, an outrageous total. So now I should
Speaker 1: note and I should have done this earlier on it all,
Speaker 1: you always have to look at what divisions each division's
Speaker 1: So everyone has their three strength of schedule games a year,
Speaker 1: but then you also play your own division, and then
Speaker 1: what are the other divisions you play? For the AFC East,
Speaker 1: they draw one of the toughest divisions in the AFC
Speaker 1: North and probably the weakest division in the NFC South.
Speaker 1: So that to me, you basically that's a wash. And
Speaker 1: so the reason I'm saying this is, whenever you're doing
Speaker 1: these preseason win totals, check and see what divisions the
Speaker 1: other uh you know that those teams are playing, and
Speaker 1: kind of power rank the divisions in your own head
Speaker 1: and then figure out, you know, are they do they
Speaker 1: get two of the easier ones two of the harder
Speaker 1: ones or is it like this where you get one
Speaker 1: tough one in the AFC North, one easy one in
Speaker 1: the NFC South and it evens out. So what the
Speaker 1: Patriots have going for them is the last play schedule,
Speaker 1: they're extra games.
Speaker 2: Well maybe side of the Bills.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. They're really bad and I just
Speaker 1: don't know that they have done enough to have a
Speaker 1: competent offense. They upgraded it, coach Drake may should be
Speaker 1: better in year two, that offensive line will still be
Speaker 1: a disaster. They for the third consecutive year, maybe fourth,
Speaker 1: do not have a single draftable fantasy football skill player.
Speaker 1: There is not a single wide receiver, running back, or
Speaker 1: tight end on that team that you would want on
Speaker 1: your fantasy football team. I don't think Stefan Diggs is
Speaker 1: gonna have a big impact. I think the Patriots would
Speaker 1: be thrilled to win eight games. I'm sorry to win
Speaker 1: six games. The fact that this team could win eight
Speaker 1: games and the underhits is outrageous. I love the under
Speaker 1: for the New England Patriots. I will take under eight
Speaker 1: and a half, and that's a bet we can put
Speaker 1: on my season long. I think that thing drops to
Speaker 1: seven and a half before the year, especially when the
Speaker 1: draft plays out and they aren't able to get Abdulla
Speaker 1: Carter or Travis Hunter. Not that a rookie should really
Speaker 1: move a win total. I will take under for the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Last AFC's team, Demantsey.
Speaker 2: Oh We got the Jets. They're over unders five and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will take the over here. So they got
Speaker 1: so much better in from a culture, stability, maturity standpoint
Speaker 1: in the coaching staff. They are not gonna be under
Speaker 1: the spotlight like they were like last year. I think
Speaker 1: that it will be refreshing for that team to not
Speaker 1: have this For everyone on that team who spent their
Speaker 1: whole career with the Jets, every year of their career,
Speaker 1: the only story, the only thing people were focused on
Speaker 1: was the quarterback, whether it was Zach Wilson going to
Speaker 1: get it together, Aaron Rodgers coming to save us, Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers Tours Achilles, Aaron Rodgers last year. This year, it's
Speaker 1: just going to be about Aaron Glenn trying to set
Speaker 1: a culture, running the damn ball, playing good defense. They
Speaker 1: I think that they won five games last year, and
Speaker 1: I think this year they should be better, not necessarily
Speaker 1: better at quarterback, but not worse at quarterback, and better
Speaker 1: a little bit better everywhere else and not have the
Speaker 1: energy constantly sucked out of the room. And I think
Speaker 1: staying out of the spotlight because they are not going
Speaker 1: to be a disgusted team, will be good for them.
Speaker 1: I could absolutely see Aaron Glenn getting there, that team
Speaker 1: finding its way to seven wins. I like the Jets over.
Speaker 1: So for the AFC East, the Bills, I am staying
Speaker 1: away from the Dolphins, I am staying away from I
Speaker 1: am on the Patriots under, and I am on the
Speaker 1: Jets over. Let's go Demons to the AFC North.
Speaker 2: We got the Ravens at the over unders eleven and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 1: This is a tentative over for Baltimore. Now, I would
Speaker 1: not bet the under on any year you have a
Speaker 1: healthy Lamar Jackson. Okay, he's an all time regular season
Speaker 1: player and just guarantees you, if he's healthy, double digit wins.
Speaker 1: The reason I'm saying tentative is not because I might
Speaker 1: go under, but I'm not sure if that's a bet
Speaker 1: all actually make, but I do. It does feel like
Speaker 1: last year was kind of a worst case scenario regular
Speaker 1: season for them and they still won twelve games, and
Speaker 1: so that to me is I lean over. You feel
Speaker 1: like they're always gonna be well coached. The defense came
Speaker 1: around by the end of last year. Lamar is unbelievable,
Speaker 1: and you anticipate that they can win twelve thirteen games
Speaker 1: almost every season. The juice is dead even essentially on
Speaker 1: the over of the under. The Lamar injury stuff does
Speaker 1: worry you a bit, so I would just want to
Speaker 1: see him get through the preseason and offseason everything totally healthy.
Speaker 1: I also, before I make any better on the Ravens, Demonse,
Speaker 1: I have to make sure that Health and Human Services,
Speaker 1: if that department still exists, isn't projecting like a bad
Speaker 1: cold and flu season, because that absolutely can cost the
Speaker 1: Ravens a game, because Lamar has the immune system of
Speaker 1: a small Victorian child. As a funny tweet said once, yeah,
Speaker 1: well of course, and so but I lean over for Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Next Bengals over under nine and a half.
Speaker 1: This number is just right. I would stay away from it.
Speaker 1: The juice is heavily heavily on the over and at
Speaker 1: minus one fifty. And I don't know why we would
Speaker 1: think they're going to be a much different team than
Speaker 1: last year. A great offense, a bad defense, score a
Speaker 1: ton of points, lose a lot of games they shouldn't
Speaker 1: because defense is bad. And so I that to me
Speaker 1: is a stayaway. Next team, demanse.
Speaker 2: Oh, we got the Steelers. They're over unders eight and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 1: I'll take the under to me, this is now that
Speaker 1: means I'm betting Tomlin to not continue as well. You
Speaker 1: know what, that's not true. I could win this bet
Speaker 1: and have Tomlin's record extend because it's never at a
Speaker 1: losing season, So eight eight and one keeps that thing going. Uh,
Speaker 1: not that because the tie doesn't count as half a win. Sorry,
Speaker 1: drop some tie doesn't count as half a win when
Speaker 1: it comes to this. But I will go under because
Speaker 1: one of two things is going to happen, Demnsey, one
Speaker 1: of three things. Pardon me. Either Aaron Rodgers is not
Speaker 1: going there and they are starting Mason Rudolph, or Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers is not going there and they are starting rookie
Speaker 1: either Shadoor Sanders or Jackson Dark or Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 1: gonna announce tomorrow on McAfee or sometime in a month
Speaker 1: he is going there and bring that entire circus with him.
Speaker 1: And I think nothing would be more poetic than us
Speaker 1: finding out what's the only thing that can end Mike
Speaker 1: tomlin streak of above five hundred or better years, And
Speaker 1: the answer is bringing in forty two year old diva
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. So I will go under for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now,
Speaker 1: remember last year I was heavy on them, missing the
Speaker 1: playoffs and going under and all of that, and they
Speaker 1: cost me a ton of futures. So I could be wrong,
Speaker 1: but I will go under on Aaron Rodgers or the
Speaker 1: Steelers without Aaron Rodgers. Either way, I think it's time
Speaker 1: for a bit of a reset in Pittsburgh. I'll go
Speaker 1: under there next.
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, you got the Browns. They're over unders
Speaker 2: four and a half.
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know who's gonna be playing quarterback
Speaker 1: for them, we don't know what they're doing in the draft.
Speaker 1: That number is just really a slap in their face.
Speaker 1: A number that low four and a half. You just
Speaker 1: don't see that very often. I'm gonna stay away. I
Speaker 1: can't bet under four and a half. But I also
Speaker 1: obviously A'm not gonna bet on the Cleveland Browns. So
Speaker 1: thus far, through two divisions, I lean Patriot or I'm
Speaker 1: heavy on Patriots under. I like the Jets over. I
Speaker 1: lean Steelers or Ravens over, and I like the Steelers under.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the AFC South.
Speaker 2: Oh, we got the Texans. They're over unders set at
Speaker 2: nine and a half.
Speaker 1: That's just right. I worry about their injuries at wide receiver,
Speaker 1: you know they will. Nico is a guy who's an
Speaker 1: excellent player. He's dealt with injuries in his career. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Tank Dell is going to be out all year. They
Speaker 1: didn't bring back Digs, they traded away Tonsil, so you worry,
Speaker 1: or they just changed offensive coordinators. But the defense should
Speaker 1: be really good and Demiko's excellent. CJ's really good. So
Speaker 1: it feels like a nine or ten win team. Will
Speaker 1: stay away from it.
Speaker 2: Next we got the Colts. They're over under seven and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 1: I you know what, I I don't have a ton
Speaker 1: of Colts opinions this year. I don't really want to
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time thinking about the Colts. I'm
Speaker 1: not that interested in the Colts. Seven and a half
Speaker 1: sounds right. We'll stay away from it. You don't have
Speaker 1: to bet everything shit to.
Speaker 2: Who My co worker he's he's a big fan of
Speaker 2: the Colts, and he always says that everybody says the
Speaker 2: Colts is just like nobody.
Speaker 1: He correct, Yeah, there's there's there. I mean, basically, that's
Speaker 1: this whole division. Both of the Souths just get totally
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Distrigard.
Speaker 2: But next uh got the Jags. They're over under seven
Speaker 2: and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm back, baby Jags. All right over better head, new
Speaker 1: head coach Trevor Healthy, Brian Thomas Junior in year two,
Speaker 1: all of these things.
Speaker 2: I think the right way is definitely go over here.
Speaker 2: But if they finished with less than that, what happens
Speaker 2: with Trevor Lawrence after this season.
Speaker 1: Is not great?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, no, then people start they start talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, how can we get out of the contract
Speaker 1: like all that stuff. It's not great, which is why
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. Trevor Lawrence's returned to glory this season.
Speaker 1: He's listen, I know people don't you know, we're sick
Speaker 1: of me saying this, but it is true. Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: He's just twenty five man, twenty five years old. He's
Speaker 1: been saying, age's bo Nick's basically like. He had a
Speaker 1: brutal rookie year his second year, led them to win
Speaker 1: the division and a great playoff comeback. His third year,
Speaker 1: they were eight and three until he suffered injuries to
Speaker 1: three different parts of his body in three consecutive weeks
Speaker 1: and had to miss time in their season fell apart
Speaker 1: and last year season from hell, I'm not quitting you,
Speaker 1: Trevor over Jaggs put it in pen. I'm betting that one.
Speaker 1: They are getting back in the playoff mix. That's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Just in the playoff mix and Liam going,
Speaker 1: I don't care if you said Duval weird, you got
Speaker 1: the best out of Baker. I like you. I am
Speaker 1: with the Jacksonville Jaguars over seven and a half.
Speaker 2: Next with you there, you got the Titans. They're over
Speaker 2: unders five and a half.
Speaker 1: See with plus one twenty five on the under, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna be starting a rookie quarterback from day one.
Speaker 1: Give me the under, Like, give me the under with
Speaker 1: cam Ward even if he's good. I think that that
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of growing pains. I don't
Speaker 1: know that I trust Brian Callahan. It's and I'm getting
Speaker 1: plus money on it. Like now this one, I will
Speaker 1: admit I am going to bet this, but I am
Speaker 1: going to wait to bet this because since it's minus
Speaker 1: one point fifty on the over all these lines. Obviously,
Speaker 1: by the way, courtesy of our friends at DraftKings, I
Speaker 1: should have been saying that earlier. Uh plus one twenty
Speaker 1: five on the under. This might move to six and
Speaker 1: a half, and I love it at six and a half.
Speaker 1: I like it a lot at five and a half.
Speaker 1: I will bet this at some point, just not this moment,
Speaker 1: but starting a rookie quarterback, shakey head coach, and oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, line is an odd subject to change.
Speaker 1: I need to tell you guys, but you guys all
Speaker 1: know that you're Titans.
Speaker 2: Get six wins, can war you mean he said, I
Speaker 2: mean they can was going to go to the super
Speaker 2: Bowl last year. He's a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the so a couple things. The Bears were
Speaker 1: coming off a seven win season, not three and fourteen.
Speaker 1: I was wrong about the Bears coach. The Bears ended
Speaker 1: up having a dufus coach and Calb's way way, way,
Speaker 1: way way better.
Speaker 2: Than cam Ward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not even close. All right, finish it off
Speaker 1: on the AFC West.
Speaker 2: So we got the Chiefs. They're over runners eleven and
Speaker 2: a half. This is insulting, insulting. The highest win total
Speaker 2: projected wind total.
Speaker 1: Yeah it should be twelve and a half. They won
Speaker 1: seventeen games last year. They won fifteen in the regular season,
Speaker 1: and everyone told me they weren't that good. They they
Speaker 1: they could. They went fifteen and one last year in
Speaker 1: games mahomes play because they sat out Week seventeen. The oh,
Speaker 1: I haven't been giving you guys the division stuff. Darn it.
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing that I really like for the
Speaker 1: whole AFC West. They're division games, as they get all
Speaker 1: four teams in the AFC South awesome, and they get
Speaker 1: the NFC East, which is only as in my opinion,
Speaker 1: one great team in the Eagles. Now, obviously the chief
Speaker 1: strength of schedule games are brutal their strength of schedule,
Speaker 1: So they get their own division plus the AFC South
Speaker 1: and the AFCAS and then the strength of schedule games
Speaker 1: are Baltimore, Buffalo, Detroit. So that's the strength of schedule
Speaker 1: is you know, outrageous. But the Chiefs have games against
Speaker 1: Texans called Jags Titans, and then four more games against
Speaker 1: or two more games I should say, Cowboys Giant. There's
Speaker 1: six games they win. They go five and one in
Speaker 1: the division. Every year, there's your eleven games. And so
Speaker 1: then let's say they only go four and two in
Speaker 1: the division this year, so now you're at ten. That
Speaker 1: would mean of the following games, Detroit Baltimore, Buffalo, Philly, Washington.
Speaker 1: He's got to win two of them, and so I
Speaker 1: the betting the Chiefs over every year since Mahomes has
Speaker 1: been there, hell, since Andy's been there. But it's been
Speaker 1: super profitable since Malomes have been there. They've hit it
Speaker 1: six of seven years. The only year they didn't hit
Speaker 1: it was two years ago and they made up for
Speaker 1: that by winning the Super Bowl. So yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: the Chiefs stats an over.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs faced the Eagles next year and it's going
Speaker 2: to be in Kansas City winning the season. Would you
Speaker 2: want to see that game?
Speaker 1: When?
Speaker 2: Would you want that?
Speaker 1: Great question?
Speaker 2: First game of the season.
Speaker 1: No, because it's just like no, because the Chiefs don't
Speaker 1: get to Well, first of all, that can't happen because
Speaker 1: the Eagles are the defending champs. They get to host
Speaker 1: the you know, a season opener on Thursday, so it
Speaker 1: can't be the first game of the year. Here's what
Speaker 1: I don't care when it is. I just want both
Speaker 1: teams to be on regular rest. I don't want one
Speaker 1: team to be coming off a weird schedule. I you
Speaker 1: know what, the whatever it is. There are some rumors,
Speaker 1: uh the the that the Chiefs could start the year
Speaker 1: in Brazil, but I so I don't know, but just
Speaker 1: I just want both teams on regular rest, all right,
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Speaker 1: co slash b ball. All right, demonse, let's go back
Speaker 1: to the AFC West. We just did the Chiefs over
Speaker 1: eleven and a half. Give me the last few.
Speaker 2: Oh, we got the charges that are over UNDERDS nine
Speaker 2: and a half, so and I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Lump the Ronco's in with them as well. They're also
Speaker 1: at nine and a half. To me, both of these
Speaker 1: are stay aways. I think both of these are gonna
Speaker 1: be very trendy bets. I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: are going to like either or both of these teams
Speaker 1: to hit double digit wins. They both hit it last year,
Speaker 1: they both made the playoffs last year. I now they
Speaker 1: have the same benefit the Chiefs have, which is the
Speaker 1: AFC South and the NFC East. But I think people
Speaker 1: are a little too high on the Chargers, who I
Speaker 1: don't think are going to have the turnover numbers they
Speaker 1: had last year. And I think people are a little
Speaker 1: too high on bon Knicks. Now again, if I thought
Speaker 1: people were way way off, I'd be saying go under.
Speaker 1: But I think both. I think both those teams are
Speaker 1: gonna be hovering around at the end of the year
Speaker 1: eight nine to ten wins, so I would stay away,
Speaker 1: and then that gives us the Raiders Demons.
Speaker 2: And they're over under six malf.
Speaker 1: I love the over for the Las Vegas Raiders. I
Speaker 1: know that probably shocks people, but when you combine the
Speaker 1: following things. They had a bottom three coach last year,
Speaker 1: they replaced him with a top ten coach in Pete Carroll.
Speaker 1: They had a bottom three quarterback situation. They replace him
Speaker 1: with top twelve quarterback and Gino Smith. They have a
Speaker 1: last place schedule. They are going to be able to
Speaker 1: draft an impact player at number six. Pete, I think
Speaker 1: maybe Ashton Genty. Pete Carroll wants to win. Right now,
Speaker 1: everyone is gonna be all over the Broncos of the Chargers.
Speaker 1: I think it's the Raiders that could finish second in
Speaker 1: the AFC West. I think Pete Carroll has the Raiders
Speaker 1: fighting for the final wild card spot in the AFC
Speaker 1: in year one. I like the Raiders over six and
Speaker 1: a half. So my AFC bets that I like Patriots
Speaker 1: under eight and a half, Jets over five and a half,
Speaker 1: Steelers under eight and a half, Ravens over eleven and
Speaker 1: a half, Jags over seven and a half, Titans under
Speaker 1: five and a half, Chiefs over eleven and a half,
Speaker 1: and the Las Vegas Raiders under six and a half.
Speaker 1: In the least surprising news ever, Demon's a I went
Speaker 1: way too long, and we're gonna do the NFC on Thursday,
Speaker 1: so I don't want to rush through the NFC. But uh,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, we have a
Speaker 1: ton more to go. So well, I liked how we
Speaker 1: did this. Do some NBA news and everything Thursday to
Speaker 1: start the show, do the over unders for the second
Speaker 1: half of the show. I thought that worked well, and
Speaker 1: so AFC we just gave them to you. NFC we
Speaker 1: will do on Thursday. Let's ask some listener questions demands.
Speaker 1: You have a question?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean I saw on Twitter that they
Speaker 2: were bringing back dire Wolves. I hit Daniel up about
Speaker 2: this and said that should go somewhere else in the show.
Speaker 2: It was really bad take, But I think it's what's
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 1: Know what's the take? Let me hear your take.
Speaker 2: I think that's insane that they're that they're messing with
Speaker 2: stuff like that. I don't know what reason we would
Speaker 2: have for it, unless it's like beneficial for the I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: So it's not a bad it's not a bad take.
Speaker 1: It's first of all. Second of all, hand up, not
Speaker 1: afraid to admit things. I thought dire wolves were always
Speaker 1: make believe. I didn't know that was a thing. I
Speaker 1: knew they were in Game of Thrones, but I thought
Speaker 1: they were make believe like dragons, like I thought it
Speaker 1: was just something from fantasy. I didn't know, like I
Speaker 1: obviously knew. Well, that's a separate discussion there is did
Speaker 1: dragons ever exist? Is not as dumb of a question
Speaker 1: as some people think. I will say that, but set
Speaker 1: that aside. I obviously knew, like you know, like wooly
Speaker 1: mammoths existed and the Megalodon existed. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: horse sized wolves existed. I thought that was purely from
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones. So I know that this is a
Speaker 1: little Jurassic Park ish, and that didn't go well, but
Speaker 1: I think it would be sick man if we could
Speaker 1: reanimate some of the giant animal life from world history
Speaker 1: and put it on an island somewhere and let them
Speaker 1: and like see it. As long as they can't fly, man,
Speaker 1: as long as they can't fly and can't swim, I
Speaker 1: think i'd be I'd love to see a dire wolf.
Speaker 1: I think it'd be awesome. I don't know they existed.
Speaker 1: I get it's a little scary. I understand, yeah, And
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily for the dinosaurs coming back.
Speaker 2: I mean I just saw, like, I don't think it
Speaker 2: was a terrordacty. There was a specific name for it,
Speaker 2: but the beak was probably about as long as this room,
Speaker 2: and like just to imagine that thing was in the air,
Speaker 2: like people have not grown up.
Speaker 1: The producer asking that I was stop watching Jurassic Park
Speaker 1: after forty minutes. They made a lot of grievous errors
Speaker 1: there and creating the ones that can fly obvious the
Speaker 1: fly and swim ones are. To me, that's a big mistake.
Speaker 1: But we if we had I keep reading about these
Speaker 1: islands that no people live on that we just added
Speaker 1: tariffs to I didn't even know about these islands Head Island,
Speaker 1: in the place all the penguins live or whatever. There's
Speaker 1: these islands that no one lives on. What if we
Speaker 1: reanimated them there? I'm not against it. Hayes asks the
Speaker 1: question that you know people have been wondering.
Speaker 2: So going, Hey, Nick, are you still training for the triathlon?
Speaker 2: And if so, what is it scheduled for? That's over?
Speaker 1: It's not yet scheduled. It's not over. It's not over.
Speaker 1: My training has hit a hiccup, I will admit, but
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of time. I've got a lot
Speaker 1: of time. And so am i as gung ho as
Speaker 1: I was not quite? But all your mom has been
Speaker 1: bullying me because we have this family trip scheduled for
Speaker 1: early July. Yeah, and she's been going to the gym
Speaker 1: every single day and she just comes home and body
Speaker 1: shames me. And her latest thing is she is just
Speaker 1: convinced that she is stronger than me, like we were.
Speaker 1: I know, I know. So like yesterday we just bought
Speaker 1: a new couch and it's getting delivered today. So yesterday
Speaker 1: we reorganized the living room and so I had to
Speaker 1: like move around the chairs and everything, and every chance
Speaker 1: she got, she was just like, oh, do you need
Speaker 1: me to move? That is that for you? Like just
Speaker 1: constant bullying right.
Speaker 2: For the manhood? That that is all blow the belt.
Speaker 2: But you know what's what's new with with my mother?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, all right, go to Chris's question.
Speaker 2: Chris is how do you predict win totals of the
Speaker 2: schedules ain't even out yet. You got a factor in
Speaker 2: weeknight games, can say in a road ships, et cetera.
Speaker 1: No, so that's fair, Like we know who people are playing,
Speaker 1: we don't know when they're playing. So that's why I
Speaker 1: said these are I think there were only two that
Speaker 1: I said I'm betting right now. One is the Patriots.
Speaker 1: I don't care if the Patriots got seventeen home games,
Speaker 1: they're not winning nine, and so I like the Patriots
Speaker 1: under But you're right, you do have the factor like
Speaker 1: rest advantage things like that. But we do know who
Speaker 1: everyone's playing, we just don't know when those games are,
Speaker 1: so I think, but it's you know, so it's a
Speaker 1: fair point. But I think NFL has done a really
Speaker 1: good job of making schedule release feel like a huge
Speaker 1: event even though we already know who everyone's playing. All right,
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