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Speaker 1: Welcome in walch Draight with the great episode three seventeen,

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Speaker 1: fresh off a wild NCAA Tournament championship game and maybe

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Speaker 1: wilder Western Conference playoff bracket as we head into the

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Speaker 1: final five days of the season, and we have right

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Speaker 1: now five teams all with thirty two losses both of

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Speaker 1: those topics. Shortly on the show, and then as promised

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Speaker 1: last week, we will do our annual NFL Over Unders

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Speaker 1: NFL Win Total show. These these are not locked for us.

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Speaker 1: We will do our preseason gambling show post draft. Obviously

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Speaker 1: it's post free agency, late in training camp where we

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Speaker 1: actually make these bets. Now the heads up for the

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Speaker 1: gambling stuff we're doing shortly. There might be a few

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Speaker 1: that we like so much that we just say we're

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Speaker 1: gonna bet them right now. We will if we say that,

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Speaker 1: we will mark those down and count those toward our

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Speaker 1: season long ledger that we you know, do the accounting

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Speaker 1: for at the very end of the football season. But

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Speaker 1: some of these are just leans in one direction or another.

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Speaker 1: We'll do all of that, uh, before we get to that.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in, Demanse, Demanse, how are you I know this

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Speaker 1: is the single most banal topic of any phone call

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Speaker 1: or even a podcast. But I am curious. What is

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Speaker 1: the weather like in Los Angeles right now?

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Speaker 1: Say it is. Still It's April eighth. The Masters starts Thursday.

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Speaker 1: It's forty something degrees in New York. I am. It

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Speaker 1: has gone on long enough that your mother came downstairs

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Speaker 1: today and just said to me, I think I need

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Speaker 1: a month. She said, the weather is just sapping my energy.

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Speaker 1: So at some point the way, it's gotta get warm

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Speaker 1: in New York. At that point, deep, it's man. Usually

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Speaker 1: April's like a top tier New York month. Whatever. Nobody cares.

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Speaker 1: All right, here's what missed the cut. Alex Ovechkin breaks

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Speaker 1: a record that I did not think was breakable, the

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Speaker 1: Gretzky scoring record. Now, let me also say something else

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Speaker 1: I don't. I think it's very important on this show

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Speaker 1: to not pretend to be an expert on everything. People

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Speaker 1: get themselves in trouble. You pretend to be an expert

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Speaker 1: on everything, you might all of a sudden find yourself

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Speaker 1: talking lebron in the morning, Govetchkin in the afternoons, and

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Speaker 1: the Gaza Strip at night. No one would do that

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Speaker 1: and then seriously say they're gonna run for president and

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Speaker 1: then be wrong about all three. I try not to,

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Speaker 1: you know, pretend that I know to mix some tariff

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Speaker 1: But I'm a diehard sports fan, and I'm enough of

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Speaker 1: a diehard sports fan to know Wayne Gretzky is the

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Speaker 1: only athlete I've ever seen that if you go to

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Speaker 1: his Wikipedia page, even though the Internet is endless and

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Speaker 1: a page can just scroll forever, and you're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: what records does Wayne Gretzky have, you have to go

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Speaker 1: to a separate Wikipedia page where it's like, actually, all

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Speaker 1: of Wayne Gretzky's records are here. So I just assumed

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Speaker 1: this was unbreakable. And then when I heard Ovechkin broke it,

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Speaker 1: bad sports fan, Nick for not knowing this. I assumed

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Speaker 1: Ovechkin must be like a Bobby Ors style guy that

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Speaker 1: Ovechkin is thirty nine years old. That is a hard

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Speaker 1: thirty nine for alex Ovechkin. He's younger than me now

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Speaker 1: and and incredibly wealthy. Say it again, No, it's not

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Speaker 1: breaks s Gretzky's record. Everyone thought it was unbreakable. Here's

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Speaker 1: something almost as unbelievable. Gino Wriama Demonse has coached in

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Speaker 1: thirteen National Championship Games. That in and of itself is remarkable.

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Speaker 1: He's twelve and one in those games. Twelve and one

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Speaker 1: In the West playoff push segment was the Lakers dog

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Speaker 1: They weren't in that game. I mean, they played all

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Luca knocked us out of the playoffs

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Speaker 1: last year. They just crushed us this year. Luca's team,

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Speaker 1: So now they're letting their guys rest and be ready

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Speaker 1: the Western Rammicks playoff bracket stuff, if the Lakers go

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Speaker 1: going to be a sneaky, huge edge for the Lakers

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Speaker 1: win sixty seven games, they're awesome. The concerns, however, would

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Speaker 1: be as follows. The youth is just never seeing a

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Speaker 1: Everyone has said that is your second best guy good enough?

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Speaker 1: will the playoff whistle impact Shay? He seemed to get

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Speaker 1: it this weekend against the Rockets and the Lakers and

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Speaker 1: be muted a bit? Those are all legitimate questions. Remember,

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Speaker 1: But now to the championship game last night Demon Day.

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Speaker 1: I was pulling for Houston because of our ties to Houston.

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Speaker 1: I also like Kelvin Sampson, tell us what happened?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean Houston went from winning that crazy

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have a lot of thoughts here. Houston

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Speaker 1: the Golden State that one game against the Clippers, and

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00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: for Minnesota, they're games at Milwaukee and at Memphis. That's it.

429
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: And so right now I would think the most likely

430
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: seeding is as follows. One Oklahoma City locked, two Houston

431
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: essentially locked, three Lakers close to essentially locked for Golden State, five, Minnesota,

432
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: six the Clippers, Lakers, Clippers around won't be fun. Seven

433
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: Denver eight, Memphis. That's how I think it's gonna fall out.

434
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: Is that ideal for you? Are there any matchups things? Well?

435
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: The ideal for the Lakers well, and by the way,

436
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: that's set the seven eight obviously, then there's a play

437
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: in situation. The ideal for the Lakers. Everybody wants Memphis.

438
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: The ideal for the Lakers is Memphis getting to the

439
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: three line. I don't think that's happening. I would would

440
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: I rather play Minnesota or would I rather play the Clippers.

441
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: I would rather play Clipper's been really tough since Kawhi

442
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: came back, since Kawai has been playing like this, I'd

443
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: probably rather play Minnesota now later in the playoffs, I'd

444
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: take my chances with sadly Kawhi not holding up, but

445
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: in round one with him playing like this, they're dangerous.

446
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: The thing is, everybody's dangerous. But if you're the Lakers,

447
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: you can't worry about round one. If it were to

448
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: play out to where you are on the opposite side

449
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: of the bracket of OKC and round two looks like

450
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: it's Golden State OKC, you sign up for that if

451
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: you you know, if you if you're the Lakers, and

452
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: you're only gonna have to be one of Golden State

453
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: or Oklahoma City, and they have to they play each

454
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: other in a war in round two, while with respect,

455
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: you're probably playing the Rockets. That is the ideal situation,

456
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: and I think it's what they've set themselves up.

457
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: I think the Rockets are going to be dangerous in

458
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I know you say, and they're young and

459
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: all that. I think they have a great championships.

460
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: That's fair. They have and they have a great coach.

461
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: Dylan Brook's gonna see Lebron in a playoff series and

462
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: once again be like it's Dylan Brook's time, and I

463
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: don't trust Jaialen Green. Now, Amen Thompson is a monster

464
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: as a young player, and Shingoon's great. Shingoon's great. But

465
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: I again, the West is brutal. None of these are easy,

466
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: but it's you.

467
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: Know it easy. I'm not saying like they can win, Okay,

468
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: I said, I know, I said defense wins championships. But

469
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: I think they can mess somebody's road up, think knock

470
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: a team out early.

471
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: But you but you're kind of treating them demonte like

472
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: they're not the two seed. They're like the two seed

473
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: playing to their seed means they're in the conference finals.

474
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: I don't see that happening. Like now, listen, maybe they

475
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: maybe somebody clips clips the Lakers and they beat them,

476
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: or maybe they can beat the Lakers. But I I

477
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: think Houston, Houston has earned enough for me to wear

478
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: at this point. I will almost assuredly be picking them

479
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: in their Round one series. I don't I don't know,

480
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: you know what I say that I don't know if

481
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: i'd pick them against Minnesota. I think Minnesota could be tough.

482
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, I could see.

483
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they could win. I just but I think

484
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: I'd probably pick Minnesota. This is always fun. So we

485
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: are going to go division by division all thirty Now

486
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: I am not I will address all thirty two teams

487
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: win totals, but there's what I've already looked at this

488
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: obviously quite a bit. Some of these I'm just like, oh, okay,

489
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: that line is right, Like I you know, usually Vegas

490
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: is pretty good at these, And anybody that's gonna give

491
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: you at this point in the year a lean on

492
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: all thirty two, that's too much for me. Shout out,

493
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: by the way, double shout outs. Actually, shout out to

494
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: Zach Lowe for bringing his podcast back, The Zach Lowe

495
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: Show signed on with Bill Simmons and The Ringer, And

496
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: shout out to Bill who last year in his preseason

497
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: Over Unders podcast went twenty seven and five with preseason

498
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: win totals, which is just remarkable. So double shout outs

499
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: to those guys. All right, this is the way too

500
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: Early Over Unders. Start with the AFC East. We'll do

501
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: each division basically from highest projected win total to lowest.

502
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: Demon's a give me each team and then I'll tell

503
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: you if I have a lien or not.

504
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: First we've got the Buffalo Bills other over unders set

505
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 2: at eleven and a half.

506
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: Over under set eleven and a half, heavy juice minus

507
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: won forty five on the over, and this, to me

508
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: is that number is just right, and I'll stay away

509
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: from it like that. If I had to pick one,

510
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: I would go over. However, minus won forty five's too much,

511
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: and I mean they're smart people expect the Bills at

512
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: this point, with healthy Josh Allen, you're gonna win double

513
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: digit games. It'd be a hard under to go with,

514
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: but I'll stay away from that.

515
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: Next, you got the Dolphins over under at eight and

516
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: a half.

517
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: That's exactly that's the end, with a little bit of

518
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: juice on the under minus one thirty. That is to

519
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: me a exactly right line. I think the Dolphins will

520
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: win eight or nine games. That is perfect. Last year,

521
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: by the way, the preseason total was ten and a half.

522
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: But I am that to me is a stay away.

523
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 2: Next one, we got the Patriots. They're over unders eight

524
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: and a half, all.

525
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: Right, So this is juice to the under as it

526
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: should be. It's minus one forty to the under. This is,

527
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: in my opinion, an outrageous total. So now I should

528
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: note and I should have done this earlier on it all,

529
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: you always have to look at what divisions each division's

530
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: So everyone has their three strength of schedule games a year,

531
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 1: but then you also play your own division, and then

532
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: what are the other divisions you play? For the AFC East,

533
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: they draw one of the toughest divisions in the AFC

534
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: North and probably the weakest division in the NFC South.

535
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: So that to me, you basically that's a wash. And

536
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: so the reason I'm saying this is, whenever you're doing

537
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: these preseason win totals, check and see what divisions the

538
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: other uh you know that those teams are playing, and

539
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: kind of power rank the divisions in your own head

540
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: and then figure out, you know, are they do they

541
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: get two of the easier ones two of the harder

542
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: ones or is it like this where you get one

543
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: tough one in the AFC North, one easy one in

544
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: the NFC South and it evens out. So what the

545
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: Patriots have going for them is the last play schedule,

546
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: they're extra games.

547
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: Well maybe side of the Bills.

548
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. They're really bad and I just

549
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: don't know that they have done enough to have a

550
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: competent offense. They upgraded it, coach Drake may should be

551
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: better in year two, that offensive line will still be

552
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: a disaster. They for the third consecutive year, maybe fourth,

553
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: do not have a single draftable fantasy football skill player.

554
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: There is not a single wide receiver, running back, or

555
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: tight end on that team that you would want on

556
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: your fantasy football team. I don't think Stefan Diggs is

557
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: gonna have a big impact. I think the Patriots would

558
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: be thrilled to win eight games. I'm sorry to win

559
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: six games. The fact that this team could win eight

560
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: games and the underhits is outrageous. I love the under

561
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: for the New England Patriots. I will take under eight

562
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: and a half, and that's a bet we can put

563
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: on my season long. I think that thing drops to

564
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: seven and a half before the year, especially when the

565
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: draft plays out and they aren't able to get Abdulla

566
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: Carter or Travis Hunter. Not that a rookie should really

567
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: move a win total. I will take under for the Patriots.

568
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: Last AFC's team, Demantsey.

569
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: Oh We got the Jets. They're over unders five and

570
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: a half.

571
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will take the over here. So they got

572
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: so much better in from a culture, stability, maturity standpoint

573
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 1: in the coaching staff. They are not gonna be under

574
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: the spotlight like they were like last year. I think

575
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: that it will be refreshing for that team to not

576
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: have this For everyone on that team who spent their

577
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: whole career with the Jets, every year of their career,

578
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: the only story, the only thing people were focused on

579
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: was the quarterback, whether it was Zach Wilson going to

580
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: get it together, Aaron Rodgers coming to save us, Aaron

581
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: Rodgers Tours Achilles, Aaron Rodgers last year. This year, it's

582
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: just going to be about Aaron Glenn trying to set

583
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: a culture, running the damn ball, playing good defense. They

584
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: I think that they won five games last year, and

585
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: I think this year they should be better, not necessarily

586
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: better at quarterback, but not worse at quarterback, and better

587
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: a little bit better everywhere else and not have the

588
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: energy constantly sucked out of the room. And I think

589
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: staying out of the spotlight because they are not going

590
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: to be a disgusted team, will be good for them.

591
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: I could absolutely see Aaron Glenn getting there, that team

592
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: finding its way to seven wins. I like the Jets over.

593
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: So for the AFC East, the Bills, I am staying

594
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: away from the Dolphins, I am staying away from I

595
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: am on the Patriots under, and I am on the

596
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 1: Jets over. Let's go Demons to the AFC North.

597
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: We got the Ravens at the over unders eleven and

598
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: a half.

599
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: This is a tentative over for Baltimore. Now, I would

600
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: not bet the under on any year you have a

601
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: healthy Lamar Jackson. Okay, he's an all time regular season

602
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: player and just guarantees you, if he's healthy, double digit wins.

603
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: The reason I'm saying tentative is not because I might

604
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: go under, but I'm not sure if that's a bet

605
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: all actually make, but I do. It does feel like

606
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: last year was kind of a worst case scenario regular

607
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: season for them and they still won twelve games, and

608
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: so that to me is I lean over. You feel

609
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: like they're always gonna be well coached. The defense came

610
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: around by the end of last year. Lamar is unbelievable,

611
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: and you anticipate that they can win twelve thirteen games

612
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: almost every season. The juice is dead even essentially on

613
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: the over of the under. The Lamar injury stuff does

614
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: worry you a bit, so I would just want to

615
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: see him get through the preseason and offseason everything totally healthy.

616
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: I also, before I make any better on the Ravens, Demonse,

617
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: I have to make sure that Health and Human Services,

618
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: if that department still exists, isn't projecting like a bad

619
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: cold and flu season, because that absolutely can cost the

620
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: Ravens a game, because Lamar has the immune system of

621
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: a small Victorian child. As a funny tweet said once, yeah,

622
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: well of course, and so but I lean over for Baltimore.

623
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: Next Bengals over under nine and a half.

624
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: This number is just right. I would stay away from it.

625
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: The juice is heavily heavily on the over and at

626
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: minus one fifty. And I don't know why we would

627
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: think they're going to be a much different team than

628
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: last year. A great offense, a bad defense, score a

629
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 1: ton of points, lose a lot of games they shouldn't

630
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: because defense is bad. And so I that to me

631
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: is a stayaway. Next team, demanse.

632
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: Oh, we got the Steelers. They're over unders eight and

633
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 2: a half.

634
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: I'll take the under to me, this is now that

635
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: means I'm betting Tomlin to not continue as well. You

636
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: know what, that's not true. I could win this bet

637
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: and have Tomlin's record extend because it's never at a

638
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: losing season, So eight eight and one keeps that thing going. Uh,

639
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: not that because the tie doesn't count as half a win. Sorry,

640
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: drop some tie doesn't count as half a win when

641
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: it comes to this. But I will go under because

642
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: one of two things is going to happen, Demnsey, one

643
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: of three things. Pardon me. Either Aaron Rodgers is not

644
00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 1: going there and they are starting Mason Rudolph, or Aaron

645
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: Rodgers is not going there and they are starting rookie

646
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: either Shadoor Sanders or Jackson Dark or Aaron Rodgers is

647
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: gonna announce tomorrow on McAfee or sometime in a month

648
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: he is going there and bring that entire circus with him.

649
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: And I think nothing would be more poetic than us

650
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: finding out what's the only thing that can end Mike

651
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: tomlin streak of above five hundred or better years, And

652
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: the answer is bringing in forty two year old diva

653
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. So I will go under for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now,

654
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: remember last year I was heavy on them, missing the

655
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: playoffs and going under and all of that, and they

656
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: cost me a ton of futures. So I could be wrong,

657
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: but I will go under on Aaron Rodgers or the

658
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: Steelers without Aaron Rodgers. Either way, I think it's time

659
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: for a bit of a reset in Pittsburgh. I'll go

660
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 1: under there next.

661
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, you got the Browns. They're over unders

662
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: four and a half.

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00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know who's gonna be playing quarterback

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Speaker 1: for them, we don't know what they're doing in the draft.

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00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 1: That number is just really a slap in their face.

666
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: A number that low four and a half. You just

667
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: don't see that very often. I'm gonna stay away. I

668
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: can't bet under four and a half. But I also

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Speaker 1: obviously A'm not gonna bet on the Cleveland Browns. So

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Speaker 1: thus far, through two divisions, I lean Patriot or I'm

671
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: heavy on Patriots under. I like the Jets over. I

672
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: lean Steelers or Ravens over, and I like the Steelers under.

673
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: Let's go to the AFC South.

674
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: Oh, we got the Texans. They're over unders set at

675
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 2: nine and a half.

676
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: That's just right. I worry about their injuries at wide receiver,

677
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: you know they will. Nico is a guy who's an

678
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: excellent player. He's dealt with injuries in his career. Obviously,

679
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: Tank Dell is going to be out all year. They

680
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: didn't bring back Digs, they traded away Tonsil, so you worry,

681
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: or they just changed offensive coordinators. But the defense should

682
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: be really good and Demiko's excellent. CJ's really good. So

683
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: it feels like a nine or ten win team. Will

684
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: stay away from it.

685
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: Next we got the Colts. They're over under seven and

686
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 2: a half.

687
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: I you know what, I I don't have a ton

688
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: of Colts opinions this year. I don't really want to

689
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time thinking about the Colts. I'm

690
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: not that interested in the Colts. Seven and a half

691
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: sounds right. We'll stay away from it. You don't have

692
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Speaker 1: to bet everything shit to.

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Speaker 2: Who My co worker he's he's a big fan of

694
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Speaker 2: the Colts, and he always says that everybody says the

695
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Speaker 2: Colts is just like nobody.

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Speaker 1: He correct, Yeah, there's there's there. I mean, basically, that's

697
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: this whole division. Both of the Souths just get totally

698
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Distrigard.

699
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: But next uh got the Jags. They're over under seven

700
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Speaker 2: and a half.

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Speaker 1: I'm back, baby Jags. All right over better head, new

702
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: head coach Trevor Healthy, Brian Thomas Junior in year two,

703
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: all of these things.

704
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: I think the right way is definitely go over here.

705
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: But if they finished with less than that, what happens

706
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: with Trevor Lawrence after this season.

707
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: Is not great?

708
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 2: Right?

709
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, no, then people start they start talking about,

710
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: you know, how can we get out of the contract

711
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: like all that stuff. It's not great, which is why

712
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. Trevor Lawrence's returned to glory this season.

713
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: He's listen, I know people don't you know, we're sick

714
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: of me saying this, but it is true. Trevor Lawrence.

715
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: He's just twenty five man, twenty five years old. He's

716
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: been saying, age's bo Nick's basically like. He had a

717
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: brutal rookie year his second year, led them to win

718
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: the division and a great playoff comeback. His third year,

719
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: they were eight and three until he suffered injuries to

720
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: three different parts of his body in three consecutive weeks

721
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: and had to miss time in their season fell apart

722
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: and last year season from hell, I'm not quitting you,

723
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: Trevor over Jaggs put it in pen. I'm betting that one.

724
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: They are getting back in the playoff mix. That's all

725
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Just in the playoff mix and Liam going,

726
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: I don't care if you said Duval weird, you got

727
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: the best out of Baker. I like you. I am

728
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: with the Jacksonville Jaguars over seven and a half.

729
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: Next with you there, you got the Titans. They're over

730
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: unders five and a half.

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Speaker 1: See with plus one twenty five on the under, and

732
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna be starting a rookie quarterback from day one.

733
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: Give me the under, Like, give me the under with

734
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: cam Ward even if he's good. I think that that

735
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of growing pains. I don't

736
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: know that I trust Brian Callahan. It's and I'm getting

737
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: plus money on it. Like now this one, I will

738
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: admit I am going to bet this, but I am

739
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: going to wait to bet this because since it's minus

740
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: one point fifty on the over all these lines. Obviously,

741
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Speaker 1: by the way, courtesy of our friends at DraftKings, I

742
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: should have been saying that earlier. Uh plus one twenty

743
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: five on the under. This might move to six and

744
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: a half, and I love it at six and a half.

745
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: I like it a lot at five and a half.

746
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: I will bet this at some point, just not this moment,

747
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: but starting a rookie quarterback, shakey head coach, and oh,

748
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: by the way, line is an odd subject to change.

749
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: I need to tell you guys, but you guys all

750
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: know that you're Titans.

751
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 2: Get six wins, can war you mean he said, I

752
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: mean they can was going to go to the super

753
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: Bowl last year. He's a rookie quarterback.

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00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the so a couple things. The Bears were

755
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: coming off a seven win season, not three and fourteen.

756
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: I was wrong about the Bears coach. The Bears ended

757
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 1: up having a dufus coach and Calb's way way, way,

758
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: way way better.

759
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: Than cam Ward.

760
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not even close. All right, finish it off

761
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: on the AFC West.

762
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: So we got the Chiefs. They're over runners eleven and

763
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 2: a half. This is insulting, insulting. The highest win total

764
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: projected wind total.

765
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: Yeah it should be twelve and a half. They won

766
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: seventeen games last year. They won fifteen in the regular season,

767
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 1: and everyone told me they weren't that good. They they

768
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: they could. They went fifteen and one last year in

769
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: games mahomes play because they sat out Week seventeen. The oh,

770
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: I haven't been giving you guys the division stuff. Darn it.

771
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing that I really like for the

772
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: whole AFC West. They're division games, as they get all

773
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: four teams in the AFC South awesome, and they get

774
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: the NFC East, which is only as in my opinion,

775
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: one great team in the Eagles. Now, obviously the chief

776
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: strength of schedule games are brutal their strength of schedule,

777
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: So they get their own division plus the AFC South

778
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 1: and the AFCAS and then the strength of schedule games

779
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: are Baltimore, Buffalo, Detroit. So that's the strength of schedule

780
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: is you know, outrageous. But the Chiefs have games against

781
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: Texans called Jags Titans, and then four more games against

782
00:53:53,200 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: or two more games I should say, Cowboys Giant. There's

783
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: six games they win. They go five and one in

784
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: the division. Every year, there's your eleven games. And so

785
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: then let's say they only go four and two in

786
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: the division this year, so now you're at ten. That

787
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: would mean of the following games, Detroit Baltimore, Buffalo, Philly, Washington.

788
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: He's got to win two of them, and so I

789
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: the betting the Chiefs over every year since Mahomes has

790
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: been there, hell, since Andy's been there. But it's been

791
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: super profitable since Malomes have been there. They've hit it

792
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: six of seven years. The only year they didn't hit

793
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: it was two years ago and they made up for

794
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: that by winning the Super Bowl. So yeah, I'm not

795
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs stats an over.

796
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: The Chiefs faced the Eagles next year and it's going

797
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: to be in Kansas City winning the season. Would you

798
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 2: want to see that game?

799
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: When?

800
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 2: Would you want that?

801
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: Great question?

802
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: First game of the season.

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00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: No, because it's just like no, because the Chiefs don't

804
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: get to Well, first of all, that can't happen because

805
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: the Eagles are the defending champs. They get to host

806
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: the you know, a season opener on Thursday, so it

807
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: can't be the first game of the year. Here's what

808
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: I don't care when it is. I just want both

809
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: teams to be on regular rest. I don't want one

810
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: team to be coming off a weird schedule. I you

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Speaker 1: know what, the whatever it is. There are some rumors,

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00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: uh the the that the Chiefs could start the year

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Speaker 1: in Brazil, but I so I don't know, but just

814
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: I just want both teams on regular rest, all right,

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Speaker 1: co slash b ball. All right, demonse, let's go back

859
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: to the AFC West. We just did the Chiefs over

860
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: eleven and a half. Give me the last few.

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00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 2: Oh, we got the charges that are over UNDERDS nine

862
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: and a half, so and I'm gonna.

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00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: Lump the Ronco's in with them as well. They're also

864
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: at nine and a half. To me, both of these

865
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: are stay aways. I think both of these are gonna

866
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: be very trendy bets. I think a lot of people

867
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: are going to like either or both of these teams

868
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: to hit double digit wins. They both hit it last year,

869
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: they both made the playoffs last year. I now they

870
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: have the same benefit the Chiefs have, which is the

871
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: AFC South and the NFC East. But I think people

872
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: are a little too high on the Chargers, who I

873
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: don't think are going to have the turnover numbers they

874
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: had last year. And I think people are a little

875
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: too high on bon Knicks. Now again, if I thought

876
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: people were way way off, I'd be saying go under.

877
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: But I think both. I think both those teams are

878
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: gonna be hovering around at the end of the year

879
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: eight nine to ten wins, so I would stay away,

880
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: and then that gives us the Raiders Demons.

881
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 2: And they're over under six malf.

882
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: I love the over for the Las Vegas Raiders. I

883
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: know that probably shocks people, but when you combine the

884
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: following things. They had a bottom three coach last year,

885
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: they replaced him with a top ten coach in Pete Carroll.

886
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: They had a bottom three quarterback situation. They replace him

887
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: with top twelve quarterback and Gino Smith. They have a

888
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: last place schedule. They are going to be able to

889
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 1: draft an impact player at number six. Pete, I think

890
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: maybe Ashton Genty. Pete Carroll wants to win. Right now,

891
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: everyone is gonna be all over the Broncos of the Chargers.

892
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: I think it's the Raiders that could finish second in

893
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: the AFC West. I think Pete Carroll has the Raiders

894
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: fighting for the final wild card spot in the AFC

895
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: in year one. I like the Raiders over six and

896
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: a half. So my AFC bets that I like Patriots

897
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: under eight and a half, Jets over five and a half,

898
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: Steelers under eight and a half, Ravens over eleven and

899
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: a half, Jags over seven and a half, Titans under

900
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: five and a half, Chiefs over eleven and a half,

901
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: and the Las Vegas Raiders under six and a half.

902
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: In the least surprising news ever, Demon's a I went

903
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: way too long, and we're gonna do the NFC on Thursday,

904
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: so I don't want to rush through the NFC. But uh,

905
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, we have a

906
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: ton more to go. So well, I liked how we

907
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: did this. Do some NBA news and everything Thursday to

908
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: start the show, do the over unders for the second

909
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: half of the show. I thought that worked well, and

910
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: so AFC we just gave them to you. NFC we

911
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: will do on Thursday. Let's ask some listener questions demands.

912
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: You have a question?

913
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean I saw on Twitter that they

914
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 2: were bringing back dire Wolves. I hit Daniel up about

915
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 2: this and said that should go somewhere else in the show.

916
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 2: It was really bad take, But I think it's what's

917
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 2: going on.

918
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: Know what's the take? Let me hear your take.

919
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: I think that's insane that they're that they're messing with

920
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 2: stuff like that. I don't know what reason we would

921
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 2: have for it, unless it's like beneficial for the I

922
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 2: don't know.

923
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: So it's not a bad it's not a bad take.

924
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: It's first of all. Second of all, hand up, not

925
01:02:55,240 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: afraid to admit things. I thought dire wolves were always

926
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: make believe. I didn't know that was a thing. I

927
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: knew they were in Game of Thrones, but I thought

928
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: they were make believe like dragons, like I thought it

929
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: was just something from fantasy. I didn't know, like I

930
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: obviously knew. Well, that's a separate discussion there is did

931
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: dragons ever exist? Is not as dumb of a question

932
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: as some people think. I will say that, but set

933
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: that aside. I obviously knew, like you know, like wooly

934
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: mammoths existed and the Megalodon existed. I didn't know that

935
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: horse sized wolves existed. I thought that was purely from

936
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones. So I know that this is a

937
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: little Jurassic Park ish, and that didn't go well, but

938
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: I think it would be sick man if we could

939
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: reanimate some of the giant animal life from world history

940
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: and put it on an island somewhere and let them

941
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: and like see it. As long as they can't fly, man,

942
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: as long as they can't fly and can't swim, I

943
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: think i'd be I'd love to see a dire wolf.

944
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: I think it'd be awesome. I don't know they existed.

945
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: I get it's a little scary. I understand, yeah, And

946
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily for the dinosaurs coming back.

947
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 2: I mean I just saw, like, I don't think it

948
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: was a terrordacty. There was a specific name for it,

949
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 2: but the beak was probably about as long as this room,

950
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 2: and like just to imagine that thing was in the air,

951
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: like people have not grown up.

952
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,439
Speaker 1: The producer asking that I was stop watching Jurassic Park

953
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: after forty minutes. They made a lot of grievous errors

954
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: there and creating the ones that can fly obvious the

955
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: fly and swim ones are. To me, that's a big mistake.

956
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: But we if we had I keep reading about these

957
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: islands that no people live on that we just added

958
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: tariffs to I didn't even know about these islands Head Island,

959
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: in the place all the penguins live or whatever. There's

960
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: these islands that no one lives on. What if we

961
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: reanimated them there? I'm not against it. Hayes asks the

962
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: question that you know people have been wondering.

963
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,919
Speaker 2: So going, Hey, Nick, are you still training for the triathlon?

964
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 2: And if so, what is it scheduled for? That's over?

965
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: It's not yet scheduled. It's not over. It's not over.

966
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: My training has hit a hiccup, I will admit, but

967
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of time. I've got a lot

968
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: of time. And so am i as gung ho as

969
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: I was not quite? But all your mom has been

970
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: bullying me because we have this family trip scheduled for

971
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:04,959
Speaker 1: early July. Yeah, and she's been going to the gym

972
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: every single day and she just comes home and body

973
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: shames me. And her latest thing is she is just

974
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: convinced that she is stronger than me, like we were.

975
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: I know, I know. So like yesterday we just bought

976
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: a new couch and it's getting delivered today. So yesterday

977
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: we reorganized the living room and so I had to

978
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: like move around the chairs and everything, and every chance

979
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: she got, she was just like, oh, do you need

980
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: me to move? That is that for you? Like just

981
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: constant bullying right.

982
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 2: For the manhood? That that is all blow the belt.

983
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 2: But you know what's what's new with with my mother?

984
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, all right, go to Chris's question.

985
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 2: Chris is how do you predict win totals of the

986
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 2: schedules ain't even out yet. You got a factor in

987
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 2: weeknight games, can say in a road ships, et cetera.

988
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: No, so that's fair, Like we know who people are playing,

989
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: we don't know when they're playing. So that's why I

990
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: said these are I think there were only two that

991
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 1: I said I'm betting right now. One is the Patriots.

992
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: I don't care if the Patriots got seventeen home games,

993
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: they're not winning nine, and so I like the Patriots

994
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: under But you're right, you do have the factor like

995
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: rest advantage things like that. But we do know who

996
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: everyone's playing, we just don't know when those games are,

997
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: so I think, but it's you know, so it's a

998
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: fair point. But I think NFL has done a really

999
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: good job of making schedule release feel like a huge

1000
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: event even though we already know who everyone's playing. All right,

1001
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