Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hey guys, hi all look cute as a new style?
Speaker 2: I like this? Is it two shirts?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Just one? Oh it's so cute. Thanks, I don't think
Speaker 2: it's so new. You don't think so.
Speaker 3: I'm not like it's like she's got a T shirt
Speaker 3: on the hesitation is that I didn't invent it. It's
Speaker 3: it's been I'm like, I like, I done it, I
Speaker 3: pieced it together.
Speaker 2: But this is just one. I think it's cute.
Speaker 1: It's so cute.
Speaker 3: Jeans too structured. Pant means I have business to do today?
Speaker 3: Do we have anything done? Just a little lunch? Gemini
Speaker 3: season is upon us, so listen.
Speaker 2: I think we just need to get right into it.
Speaker 3: Uh. Kristen has something she wants to talk about and
Speaker 3: she's pulled to me, and it's really pissed me off,
Speaker 3: actually for just you know, because I always say, save
Speaker 3: it for the podcast, save it for the podcast, you know,
Speaker 3: And so the other day she was like, I'm saving
Speaker 3: it for the podcast. I was like, oh, doesn't want
Speaker 3: your genuine reactions. I want your like, I want your
Speaker 3: unfiltered And and this is we've talked about this a
Speaker 3: lot on our group chat. People wouldn't know this part,
Speaker 3: but we want to share our authentic experiences. But it
Speaker 3: is tricky because we're living a life where maybe some
Speaker 3: of these people also listen to the podcast. So I'm
Speaker 3: hesitant because I don't want to throw anyone under the bus.
Speaker 3: But it is a story, it is factual. It happened
Speaker 3: to me, and it's the truth, and I think this
Speaker 3: is this is the piece where it gets tricky because
Speaker 3: we have I have spoken about things. It has then
Speaker 3: been made public to the people and listen. I chose
Speaker 3: to speak about it sure knowing that it very well
Speaker 3: might go back to that person, and I have to
Speaker 3: be okay with that either a conversation with that person,
Speaker 3: like you too, Catherine, She's like, well, my mom called
Speaker 3: me the other day, you know.
Speaker 2: So it's like we have to be okay with sharing.
Speaker 3: But it's too hard to go thirty thousand feet above
Speaker 3: is so it's like you have to come down and
Speaker 3: then you have to be okay with it this person
Speaker 3: if it gets to the person, because these salutes that
Speaker 3: just listen to pick us apart, well, then find the
Speaker 3: person to then send it to the person you know,
Speaker 3: and it's like, okay, yes, I said that. So I
Speaker 3: have to either a own it and be have the
Speaker 3: conversation or be fine with maybe a relationship not like
Speaker 3: with okay, with a relationship falling apart. But I've actually
Speaker 3: had positive conversations from when that's happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean I think we're usually pretty avoid your mom.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she shaid something again old and I pushed her
Speaker 2: to voicemail. I was like, wait to handle it.
Speaker 4: She said something again the other day that didn't have
Speaker 4: but it made me know that she heard.
Speaker 1: Off that and I was like, oh, okay, we're just
Speaker 1: going to keep avoiding. No I did. I avoided, but.
Speaker 3: It's your truth, and so you either going to spark
Speaker 3: a conversation or listen to your mom. So it's not
Speaker 3: like she's going to disown you, right all.
Speaker 4: The other things. I feel like we're usually pretty like, hey,
Speaker 4: this is what happened, this is how I felt.
Speaker 1: This is and I think that that's all fair.
Speaker 4: Whether we're ready to have that conversation like I wasn't,
Speaker 4: or we you know, I still think it's okay to
Speaker 4: talk about it and say that this is how I felt.
Speaker 4: Knowing that there's always another side to a story. There's
Speaker 4: always feelings on the other side, you know, all those things.
Speaker 4: I don't think we're doing anything bad, but it is
Speaker 4: hard to like even our social thing.
Speaker 1: For today, I was like, ooh, it was.
Speaker 4: A little like a little obvious to that person, probably
Speaker 4: who I was referencing. But I was like, but that's
Speaker 4: okay because I've talked to her about it. She knows
Speaker 4: that's how I.
Speaker 2: Feel, same at this situation. So I think it's okay.
Speaker 4: So, but I need to know does Janna not know
Speaker 4: for real or does she know she doesn't know? Okay,
Speaker 4: so this is like a real one. We saved it
Speaker 4: for I even.
Speaker 3: Called her the other day because something happened where Okay,
Speaker 3: so I had my oblasion.
Speaker 2: We're going to get to it. Yeah, I always tell
Speaker 2: this this mine can easily be a little whine about
Speaker 2: it too. Okay, Well it dat it's a good trans No.
Speaker 3: So I had So I had my official So I
Speaker 3: had two test blockers, and then I had my official
Speaker 3: ablasion on Monday, where they put the needle in your
Speaker 3: back and then they burn off the specific nerves they
Speaker 3: think are causing you pain. The funniest piece about this
Speaker 3: was I've now done the two test blockers, which I've
Speaker 3: been nervous in them and asked a million questions like
Speaker 3: will I be able to like what happens if you
Speaker 3: hit the wrong nerve? Will I then lose all like
Speaker 3: movement in my legs? And like can I be pairs?
Speaker 3: All valid questions. I was say, very this is not
Speaker 3: you being it's your back you so that's right, and
Speaker 3: that you're close to the spine, like what if it's
Speaker 3: like hits the spinal cord and then them paralyzed, like
Speaker 3: I mean all the things of like run and I'm
Speaker 3: a Googler, so a google. So I go to the
Speaker 3: appointment and they had said that you like they usually
Speaker 3: give like a light sedation like a x annex because
Speaker 3: it's only it takes like twenty minutes, so there's no
Speaker 3: real point to like go down for like yes, they
Speaker 3: just want you to not move and most people aren't
Speaker 3: as anxious. Sure that can just lay there because you're
Speaker 3: pretty much numby, feel a little bit of the pain.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 3: So nurse comes in and she gives me a x ANEX.
Speaker 3: About two minutes later, she comes in with the second
Speaker 3: XANX and she goes, here's a second one, and I go.
Speaker 2: To doctor Todd tell you to didn't tell you to
Speaker 2: give me a second xanex. She goes he did.
Speaker 3: I was like okay, I was like, well can I
Speaker 3: take I was like, I don't like taking things, and
Speaker 3: I've already taken one, but.
Speaker 2: I only feel the one. So she's like, take THEA.
Speaker 3: So I took two, right, which is a lot for me,
Speaker 3: Like I'm used to taking a half of a half like,
Speaker 3: so like, oh yeah, this is good math. This is
Speaker 3: also a lot for any human too. Xanax right, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like most normal people that take XANX take like one.
Speaker 3: It's like they usually it's like anywhere from a Like
Speaker 3: I'm I'm used to point two five, Like that is
Speaker 3: what I took. Like if I'm on an airplane and
Speaker 3: I'm having me, that is what I have with me
Speaker 3: in my little safety net of a xanax right bottle,
Speaker 3: But I don't take.
Speaker 2: I just keep refilling and I don't years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the one that I have expired in February
Speaker 3: of twenty five, like and I just still have them
Speaker 3: a little baggy like so I actually carry it for
Speaker 3: the same reason, just to I haven't taken it in years,
Speaker 3: but I know it's there. Yes, it's a nice little
Speaker 3: it's like my you know, my my water bottle, like
Speaker 3: it's my companion emotional support Zana. Yeah, just to know
Speaker 3: it's there. I'm never going to take it unless I
Speaker 3: really need it. So anyways, last time I took it
Speaker 3: was actually on my wedding, oh, because I couldn't sleep.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I had just had to sleep. Like that
Speaker 3: was finally. Anyways, Okay, so I take the Tuesday anexas
Speaker 3: it is Lion's birthday and you so I get I
Speaker 3: come home. I am like, thank goodness Alan drove because
Speaker 3: obviously I had to have a driver. I am falling
Speaker 3: over in the parking lot. Like, procedure goes great, everything
Speaker 3: is awesome, and I'm like doctor Todd, I'm so relaxed,
Speaker 3: like this is good news.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So and then it really hit me once the procedure
Speaker 3: was over, because again it's so short, and so I'm
Speaker 3: like falling over in the car, fall asleep, and I
Speaker 3: don't even remember did we talk Kramer? I wish, I said,
Speaker 3: I am one percent repeating this whole story on the podcast.
Speaker 3: And because you were drugged, I and I told you
Speaker 3: that I was going to I still get to because
Speaker 3: I told you it was going to So she calls me,
Speaker 3: she's like, hey, so calm because I was like, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure this out. Well, well, she was
Speaker 3: trying to figure out her lion's birthday and I don't
Speaker 3: want to say no. And I didn't tell her about
Speaker 3: the oblasion because I'm like, you know, it's her daughter's
Speaker 3: second birthday, and like, yeah, I'm gonna try to make it.
Speaker 3: If I can't, I don't know how I'm gonna feel sure.
Speaker 3: And this isn't even a big thing. It was just
Speaker 3: cake and singing, and then I was doing it before
Speaker 3: we had to head to Legends baseball game. I was like,
Speaker 3: it's going to be so quick and tiny.
Speaker 2: Do I even do it? Is it worth it? So
Speaker 2: she calls me, don't remember? Oh we were?
Speaker 3: It was Eastern Jana Oha is.
Speaker 2: Our favorite Janna.
Speaker 3: For those of you that don't know, Eastern Jana is
Speaker 3: a character that was invented at Easter when Jenna had
Speaker 3: her boobs done and she came waltzing in a vallium
Speaker 3: to Easter brunch and we were like, jan Hello, She
Speaker 3: put her sunglasses on, she curled up in a tiny
Speaker 3: little ball snug is a bug on a lawn chair
Speaker 3: in the hot sun, and she just.
Speaker 1: Kids, ran around, ran around the pool. She's like, it's
Speaker 1: all good.
Speaker 2: Hunting. I was like, that's what they're doing, honey, good job.
Speaker 2: So she calls me.
Speaker 3: An Eastern Jana Moe and she goes, I mean, and
Speaker 3: I don't know that the Ablasian happens. I'm just like,
Speaker 3: what am I dealing with here? Like I know she's
Speaker 3: not drinking, Like, what is that in mid afternoon at best,
Speaker 3: real slow, real calm? And she said, well, I just
Speaker 3: you know, and I I had the Ablasian.
Speaker 2: I haven't. Can I share the meeting that you had?
Speaker 2: What meeting? A very important point? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So she goes, I have a Netflix meeting today at
Speaker 3: four And I said, Janna, what's going on? Oh the Ablasian.
Speaker 3: They gave me two xanax. I just woke up from
Speaker 3: my exanax. And I'm like, are you sure you're awake?
Speaker 3: And she goes, well, you know, the Netflix calls at
Speaker 3: four and I go, yeah, that's in fifteen minutes. Like
Speaker 3: I'm starting to get nervous, and she doesn't. She doesn't caffeine.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, how are we going to get this
Speaker 3: chick out of it? Like I feel like I'm watching
Speaker 3: like a really bad after school special, Like you're going
Speaker 3: to lose the gig. And I couldn't cancel it because
Speaker 3: we had canceled on her because of our flight.
Speaker 4: And I've wondered when you said yes to this in
Speaker 4: the first place. I was like, oh, this thing must
Speaker 4: not be a big deal at all, which obviously like,
Speaker 4: but who knew you were going to have Tuesday?
Speaker 2: Oh no, like so Eastern Jamma.
Speaker 3: So then she goes, yeah, I had an as i
Speaker 3: e bowl, fell asleep eating that, so that's all.
Speaker 2: Over the comforter.
Speaker 1: She was over my stuff.
Speaker 4: Well, the funny thing is is I thought you were
Speaker 4: going to come home and go straight straight to sleep.
Speaker 1: I was like, she's napping. I will not bother her, right,
Speaker 1: I did sleep immediately.
Speaker 5: Because she started.
Speaker 1: You started answering emails.
Speaker 4: They were not bad, but I was just like, she
Speaker 4: sleep and you get emailing, and then I saw the
Speaker 4: picture of the assa you bon and then finally you
Speaker 4: were like, okay, I'm going to.
Speaker 2: Say with a bowl on top of me? When then
Speaker 2: the worst over? Yeah? Yeah, man, super fun times. So
Speaker 2: she said, I want to know what happened? Will you
Speaker 2: tell me? And I said, nope, saving it for the podcast.
Speaker 3: Oh BF, that's not fair, but that's okay. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: we what are we doing right now? Twenty wait?
Speaker 1: But did you make it? You made it to lions though, right.
Speaker 3: Well, so here's the thing. So she's like, friend, do
Speaker 3: not worry about it. And the problem is is the
Speaker 3: cake was at six thirty, Roman's bedtime at six thirty.
Speaker 2: I moved it.
Speaker 3: It wasn't it was going to be four o'clock in
Speaker 3: and out a herd out because we had a baseball game,
Speaker 3: but I had the Netflix meeting at four too, so
Speaker 3: I will definitely couldn't have done that time. But she's like,
Speaker 3: we changed six thirty, and I'm like, oh shit. I
Speaker 3: was like, Roman goes to bed at six thirty and
Speaker 3: we were having dinner and I said it to Alan.
Speaker 3: I said, hey, so you know, it's Lion's birthday today
Speaker 3: and they're having this cake thing at six thirty and
Speaker 3: it's going to be in and out real fast. He's like, oh,
Speaker 3: he's got a bedtime and I was like, I know now,
Speaker 3: and I was like, yeah, it's it's too much like
Speaker 3: we had said he made a date twenty five minutes
Speaker 3: there and back, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 3: was like, it's fine, and then I said after dinner,
Speaker 3: I go, no, we're going, Like I was like she always.
Speaker 2: I was like, you showed up.
Speaker 3: To Roman's first birthday with like kids in the car
Speaker 3: panicked as ever, I was like the right thing to do.
Speaker 3: I was like, I will regret not going. And I
Speaker 3: was totally like you don't. Like there's no pressure, I know,
Speaker 3: but it was like in me going like my friends
Speaker 3: would do this for me, and I need to show
Speaker 3: up how they show up for me. Well, Preston was impressed.
Speaker 3: He was like, it's bedtime, and I said, it's best friendship.
Speaker 3: It's this whole nother territory I know. I was like,
Speaker 3: I need to show up because I don't. I haven't
Speaker 3: showed up in the past. Because I'm like, oh nope,
Speaker 3: it's bedtime. At six started, I'm like I have to
Speaker 3: start bending where I haven't bended before for people that
Speaker 3: bend all the freaking time.
Speaker 2: For me, Cramer, this is all moments making me emotional.
Speaker 3: And so I texted her because I was like, what's
Speaker 3: your address again? Because I didn't want to zoom up
Speaker 3: or no, no, no, no, it's time for that, but
Speaker 3: I know it, but like, you know, no please so
Speaker 3: uh and then I just said ETA six thirty two,
Speaker 3: six thirty one, actually six thirty one, and then she
Speaker 3: sent me like a little crying emoji because it's Romans
Speaker 3: really Lion's only friend, kind of like she doesn't she
Speaker 3: just plays the big kids.
Speaker 2: But then I hope that's not going to be upset.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I like I saw it and I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is funny.
Speaker 2: Do you think too? Yeah, we just did neighbors in Romans.
Speaker 2: It was great. It was tiny but funny. I want
Speaker 2: and I wanted to do something on the side to
Speaker 2: be like, hey, just by this, you know it's really small.
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, I don't know. You're not
Speaker 2: doing that. No, that's what I said to you. I
Speaker 2: was like, do I do it? And I was like nope.
Speaker 3: Also, I have hosted so much. That's a life update.
Speaker 3: I hosted the one the most one could host all
Speaker 3: of last week and I did post about it.
Speaker 2: And wine Downers were like, oh that you did it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I did it.
Speaker 3: Well. The funny thing was, is the person that she
Speaker 3: wants to talk about, which we'll go into our segrament
Speaker 3: wine about it is the girl that was at the
Speaker 3: birthday party? And what funny is I trying to get
Speaker 3: sweaty as I even clopped who this person might be,
Speaker 3: and I said, is it this person?
Speaker 2: Because I felt a little something?
Speaker 5: Did you?
Speaker 3: She said me no, okay, yeah, I said not at
Speaker 3: all and she said yes, and I go, oh, I
Speaker 3: can't wait. I was like, why don't you can? I go,
Speaker 3: can you tee me up? And she goes, no, no,
Speaker 3: I can't. I do think this situation probably happens to
Speaker 3: a lot of people, but the most I've heard about
Speaker 3: it is in laws doing this to people grandparents most likely,
Speaker 3: I should say a lot of grandparents do this where
Speaker 3: they kind of like, so I will speed date us
Speaker 3: through it. But Ryan's birthday turning to I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't want to party. I don't want to make this
Speaker 3: a big deal. I love the slowness of days and
Speaker 3: just it being just our family, so I don't need
Speaker 3: any extra.
Speaker 2: I don't ever feel that I do.
Speaker 3: Love like this baby, specifically because she was one that
Speaker 3: was prayed for for two years and just you know,
Speaker 3: like there's these people that like. She kind of is
Speaker 3: a different kind of kid too, So she kind of
Speaker 3: gravitates towards her people, and there's just certain people she
Speaker 3: loves a lot, which is sweet to me. So I'm thought,
Speaker 3: this is cute. She's gonna have all these little people around. Fine, Okay,
Speaker 3: I want to preface by saying, I understand I'm a
Speaker 3: details person. Details and intention matter excessively to me, from
Speaker 3: the way I style to the way I speak. So
Speaker 3: I know that this I could be considered high maintenance
Speaker 3: in this situation. I did talk to therapist Amy about
Speaker 3: this yesterday. Okay, not about movie and high maintenance.
Speaker 2: Never. Okay, where's Easter, Janna? Okay, So.
Speaker 3: There's a carousel, a new handcrafted carousel that has been
Speaker 3: opened up in Franklin. Yes, it's a factory beautiful, Yeah, stunning,
Speaker 3: handcrafted over thirty years. And when I tell you, you can
Speaker 3: the attention to detail on this thing. It is gorgeous, beautiful.
Speaker 3: We were going to go check it out this coming weekend.
Speaker 2: You should do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like gorgeous. So I told the family,
Speaker 3: my family, Preston and the kids. I said, let's go
Speaker 3: on Lion's birthday. She loves animals. It'll be she's never
Speaker 3: ridden the carousel before. This is going to be like perfect,
Speaker 3: and she'll be in her little tool dress that love
Speaker 3: or on her second birthday and we'll just have the
Speaker 3: you know, we'll just have the Core five and maybe
Speaker 3: Saint Christine like with us, and we'll just go do
Speaker 3: that and we'll do a pretty bakery and just make.
Speaker 2: It sweet and easy. Okay.
Speaker 3: So then fast forward. Another friend of ours has a
Speaker 3: Gemini as well. So she's like, Hey, we're going to
Speaker 3: meet at the factory in Franklin on Sunday and we're
Speaker 3: going to do the carousel and ice cream. And I said, perfect,
Speaker 3: we'll be there, another important family one we will always
Speaker 3: show up for. So we go and on the way there,
Speaker 3: I was like, we're not doing the carousel today, or
Speaker 3: at least lions, not for sure, Like the big kids
Speaker 3: have already done like Disney World whatever, not yourself, but
Speaker 3: I really want to save this one. I want to
Speaker 3: be with her her first time. I think it's cute, right,
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to She loves animals, so sweet, little
Speaker 3: memory and special, and we've done the zoo, so we
Speaker 3: could have done the zoo, but she's done that a
Speaker 3: million times.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So we get to this location and she sees it
Speaker 3: through the windows and she's kind of like, oh, but
Speaker 3: there's so many other things. There's a million kids in
Speaker 3: pretty dresses, and there's milkshakes, and everyone's doing cartwheels in
Speaker 3: the grass in between, and so it's like very easy
Speaker 3: to keep.
Speaker 2: A two year old abbay right. It was like, she
Speaker 2: can even go look at it. I just don't. Just
Speaker 2: not the ride today.
Speaker 3: Okay. So there's another family that comes up that we
Speaker 3: love and do a lot of life with, and they
Speaker 3: are wonderful people and very loving and not malicious. I
Speaker 3: want to make it that, like very clear. These are
Speaker 3: not people that are like shisty. So I say, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're going to come do that tomorrow. I say it
Speaker 3: very clearly to them, We're going to do that tomorrow.
Speaker 3: She's wearing the tool dress. It's going to be precious.
Speaker 2: I'm just for me.
Speaker 3: And it was interesting because even producer wrote to my
Speaker 3: story of lying on the carousel on the birthday and
Speaker 3: was like, this makes me want to cry, and I
Speaker 3: was like, because it's emotional to watch somebody see something
Speaker 3: for the first time ever. It's just why motherhood is
Speaker 3: so miraculous.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So this is lion Eve and it's somebody else's birthday party.
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's also seems like kind of like discounted
Speaker 3: if I take her, you know. So, I'm like, we're
Speaker 3: all aware. I you know, I hear this other mom
Speaker 3: say to Lion, I know you want to go over there,
Speaker 3: but your mom is saving it tomorrow. It's going to
Speaker 3: be special. And I'm like, yep, it's going to be special.
Speaker 3: It's going to be great. Right, we're in and out.
Speaker 3: This is ice cream and we're up, so I take
Speaker 3: Love and their oldest daughter. They have to go potty,
Speaker 3: so I take them in. Takes about ten minutes. We're
Speaker 3: making our way through this little store. We come back
Speaker 3: out and I see Legend. He's drinking his little milkshake
Speaker 3: with a friend. And I look over at Preston and
Speaker 3: I was like, where's Lyon? And the dad says, m M,
Speaker 3: don't say it. She's on the carousel with the other mom.
Speaker 3: And I said, no, no, she's not. Like I was
Speaker 3: so sure, you guys so sure? I said, no, she's not.
Speaker 3: He goes, no, I don't think she knew, And I
Speaker 3: said no, she knew, she didn't.
Speaker 2: She wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3: She knew, she said, I heard her say it. This
Speaker 3: isn't like a lot of times in my life. My
Speaker 3: character flaw is that I have these expectations or things
Speaker 3: mean a lot to me that are so minuscule, but
Speaker 3: I don't say them out loud. So my greatest work
Speaker 3: right now is just making sure I mention when something
Speaker 3: is important to me so that I don't get sad
Speaker 3: when someone hijects it or we don't do it or whatever.
Speaker 2: I said it. She heard it, she repeated it.
Speaker 3: So I'm standing there and I I could probably cry
Speaker 3: again right now. Guys, I'm like, you, ah, still emotional.
Speaker 3: I know this is so dumb to some people, but
Speaker 3: I'm like, this baby is my last first.
Speaker 2: Time with everything.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: And some people will be like it's just a carousel,
Speaker 3: but it's so much more than just a caress. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's why I feel dumb for even saying it, and
Speaker 3: like I had this, like I felt the way I'm
Speaker 3: feeling right now. And then I texted Preston because I
Speaker 3: didn't want to make a scene, and I said, I
Speaker 3: want to go home. I said, she knew, and the
Speaker 3: husband's running tight, pr free. He's like, no, she didn't know,
Speaker 3: and I was like, no, she knew. And then, you know,
Speaker 3: she came over to me afterwards and was like, and
Speaker 3: I didn't cry. I didn't, but my demeanor changed. I'm
Speaker 3: such a heart on the sleeve, like you can tell,
Speaker 3: she said. She said, I'm really sorry. I just you know,
Speaker 3: she asked me three times.
Speaker 2: She's too.
Speaker 3: She asked me three times, and I just couldn't say no.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, and I couldn't say it was okay
Speaker 3: because it wasn't okay, and that'd be lying.
Speaker 2: So I didn't say it was okay.
Speaker 3: I said, well, it happened, and I said and it
Speaker 3: just hard for me because that's my tomorrow, you know.
Speaker 3: And then the comment was made. I don't know how
Speaker 3: accurate this was because I was in my like you guys,
Speaker 3: my emotions were like swirling. I hold on to this
Speaker 3: last baby. I've treated every one of them like they're
Speaker 3: the last baby, because they're I'm just never guaranteed, right,
Speaker 3: but like this one specifically is so animated and so
Speaker 3: like intriguing to me, whether it's just my age with
Speaker 3: her or whatever. And she goes, well, you know, I
Speaker 3: think she would have been nervous the first time. That's
Speaker 3: the good news, because she was really nervous the first time.
Speaker 3: But then she said and I was like, and she's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I go how many times? And she's like where, you know,
Speaker 3: like like a few And I'm like, what is happening
Speaker 3: right now?
Speaker 2: Like I felt, did you say that?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, you guys you know me, like I can
Speaker 3: hold it together until I can't hold it together.
Speaker 2: I would also add, I.
Speaker 3: Would also add in this ecosystem of what's happening, And
Speaker 3: I should have put this at the beginning. There's another
Speaker 3: mom at this party that my husband has history with
Speaker 3: and so, and she's fine and lovely and that was
Speaker 3: a long time ago, but like that's also in my
Speaker 3: orbit at this time, and I don't feel any certain
Speaker 3: way about it. We've seen each other a million times.
Speaker 3: She's never acknowledged the history with him.
Speaker 2: I know it.
Speaker 3: I haven't acknowledged history with her. We've run into each other,
Speaker 3: like she's in the same group. You guys are big
Speaker 3: fans of her, so she's she's there, I'll you know whatever.
Speaker 3: And I made a joke I even meet she was
Speaker 3: at your birthday party, So I made a joke and
Speaker 3: I was like, hey, guys, good to see you. And
Speaker 3: her husband's like, try to introduce some sself and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, you don't recognize me.
Speaker 2: I was best actress. It's hard some people.
Speaker 3: You know, like we made I was like, very funny
Speaker 3: and nice. So but that is swirling in my body
Speaker 3: somewhere too that I'm just like here we go, you know,
Speaker 3: and I'm feeling super bloated. This has been a hormonal,
Speaker 3: weird time, so I'm just not really feeling the greatest everywhere.
Speaker 3: And then I have this little emotional like ambush of
Speaker 3: now Lyon's first time. So, so how does it end?
Speaker 3: I just it doesn't end. I just said, I mean,
Speaker 3: I couldn't say it was okay. She apologized again. I
Speaker 3: could tell she felt bad, but there was that was it.
Speaker 3: And then we ended up all getting lunched together in
Speaker 3: that same area and that was not So. I brought
Speaker 3: it to Amy yesterday because I'm like, am I ridiculous
Speaker 3: that this still The problem I'm having a little too
Speaker 3: right now is like my hormones are a little bit crazy.
Speaker 3: I'm very estrogen dominant, so there's some like I want
Speaker 3: to make sure I'm being in my right mind, and
Speaker 3: I'm not blowing something up that and I didn't. I'm
Speaker 3: not making it try to be bigger than it is,
Speaker 3: to minimize your feelings around it, because I feel like
Speaker 3: that's kind of what that. I get why you're trying
Speaker 3: to cross check it. Yes, reference, yeah, but also it
Speaker 3: is important to and here are the reasons why it was.
Speaker 2: Whether it's ridiculous, yeah, it doesn't. People fight.
Speaker 3: It's not about the lamp. They're not fighting over a
Speaker 3: lamp shade, right, They're fighting over the Yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it doesn't matter what that situation was or
Speaker 4: if anyone agrees or disagrees.
Speaker 1: It's you.
Speaker 4: It's your child, it's your choice, so it doesn't matter
Speaker 4: at the end of the day. What are your thoughts, Catherine, Well,
Speaker 4: so y'all didn't talk about it after this, Well.
Speaker 3: I couldn't say anything other than I said. She was like,
Speaker 3: you know, she just kept saying, she was like, I'm
Speaker 3: so sorry. Yeah, And I think they operate very differently
Speaker 3: than us. They I you know, just in the times
Speaker 3: we've spent with them, they're a family that just they
Speaker 3: they are always doing all the things, and you know,
Speaker 3: and so we our family has boundaries about like around
Speaker 3: buying things, and we don't always get everything. We don't
Speaker 3: need to go every time we go somewhere, we don't
Speaker 3: need to get a prize like just for the delayed
Speaker 3: gratification of like life, because this is a crazy age.
Speaker 2: So but I and I would say that this.
Speaker 3: I felt really conflicted even sharing it because this person
Speaker 3: is so nice.
Speaker 2: She's just a nice person. But I also was like, gosh,
Speaker 2: I know this is going to resonate.
Speaker 3: With people because I've heard, like I've heard grandma's taking
Speaker 3: kids to get first.
Speaker 1: Right that it's definitely a grandmother thing today, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: feels very like something might yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: But even then it would have been with someone that's
Speaker 3: a grandma. Like I'm just I felt so I feel
Speaker 3: I still feel sad. I took her on Monday, we
Speaker 3: went back, it was pouring rain.
Speaker 1: And she came to her this person still came to
Speaker 1: her party.
Speaker 2: Yeah it already.
Speaker 3: I mean I didn't make a huge scene, right, I
Speaker 3: couldn't tell her it was okay, I didn't. I just said, well,
Speaker 3: I said, well it happened, yeah, And I said, and
Speaker 3: that was going to be my tomorrow with her, And that's.
Speaker 2: All I can say.
Speaker 4: I mean, I hate that that happened to you, and
Speaker 4: I think your feelings are all very very very valid,
Speaker 4: and it's also kind of an unfortunate situation because I
Speaker 4: don't know because it's happened. Also really what she can
Speaker 4: do at this point, because it took it away from
Speaker 4: you no matter what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I mean it just like it kind of is because
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think, like if I were to accidentally
Speaker 4: do that to somebody, you know, what could you or
Speaker 4: not accidentally if I did that to somebody, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe thinking in my head it wasn't that big, it
Speaker 4: wasn't as big of a deal, and then realizing it was,
Speaker 4: I mean, what can you do besides apologize? Is really
Speaker 4: all that she can do? But also so maybe really
Speaker 4: acknowledging your feelings like maybe you know, like oh my,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know. I just feel like if
Speaker 4: I was in that position and I had been the
Speaker 4: one who had done it, I would have to just
Speaker 4: like fall over profusely like I know, there's nothing I
Speaker 4: can do. I took this away from you, and I
Speaker 4: just could not be more sorry. You know, I don't know,
Speaker 4: because now it's just kind of feels cozier. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean I think that's all you can do is just
Speaker 4: fall on the sword and go, oh my God, like
Speaker 4: I took this from you and I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: I if I if it was a miss, Like, that's
Speaker 3: the part that it's hard for me. If I hadn't
Speaker 3: said that it meant something like. That's where I just
Speaker 3: kept going, like, I am I graciously assume about people
Speaker 3: to detriment for myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where I think it's.
Speaker 3: People need to honor parents requests around things because it
Speaker 3: is important to them, Like, for example, I don't want
Speaker 3: my kids having X, Y and Z. Please honor the
Speaker 3: fact that I don't want my kids to be playing
Speaker 3: rollblocks when that is something important to me I don't want.
Speaker 3: And so if the parent's like, oh sorry, but but
Speaker 3: I voiced it, I said, And it's different than them
Speaker 3: not knowing, right. So, for example, we had something where
Speaker 3: Jace had a friend come over and I texted the
Speaker 3: mom because other moms are different around this area. With swimming,
Speaker 3: I said, can this can your boy swim? And she's like, yes,
Speaker 3: but not well. And I don't allow them to swim
Speaker 3: unless unless I'm present, and I'm like.
Speaker 2: Totally get it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll make sure the pool thing is closed. But
Speaker 3: any other parent would be like, well I was there
Speaker 3: and not be like oh sorry, like they really wanted
Speaker 3: to go in, because they did they asked, like when
Speaker 3: I was like, no, buddy, sorry, like your mommy has
Speaker 3: to be here and you know so and she said
Speaker 3: she said no. Like bottom line, it's honoring the parents'
Speaker 3: request because easily I can be like, oh, yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Really they begged me, they wanted to go in.
Speaker 3: But no, that parent does not want there's child doing that,
Speaker 3: and we have to honor what the parent wants because
Speaker 3: it's important to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it. I'm like, I don't It wouldn't matter.
Speaker 3: Whether it was a carousel or swimming in a pool
Speaker 3: or you know, do not mean going.
Speaker 2: To care it? I don't care. Well, just let me
Speaker 2: have it.
Speaker 4: I know another like very not similar but kind of
Speaker 4: similar thing happened to us with and it wasn't intentional,
Speaker 4: but my feelings still were there. So that's another side
Speaker 4: of it. Like Emmy had found out she was out
Speaker 4: of town. When she found out what team she made,
Speaker 4: they were going to do a reveal for her. But
Speaker 4: I had told the mom's what team, but we knew.
Speaker 4: I I think everyone knew we were doing reveals. But
Speaker 4: and her daughter told my daughter what team she made
Speaker 4: before her reveal. Now that was a big deal to
Speaker 4: me because I wanted her to have her moment her
Speaker 4: balloon where she pops her balloon, finds out whatever.
Speaker 1: Did she do it intentionally? No, she did not tell
Speaker 1: her to.
Speaker 4: I wish she would have thought about it and told
Speaker 4: her daughter, hey, don't say anything yet because she's going
Speaker 4: to have a reveal.
Speaker 1: But she didn't.
Speaker 4: But my feelings were still there and it wasn't even intentional.
Speaker 4: So I think it's important for you to know that,
Speaker 4: like those feelings of disappointment and something you missed out
Speaker 4: on for you your daughter are still valid, whether it's intentional
Speaker 4: not intentional. They're sorry, not sorry, like it's just such.
Speaker 3: A nice person like I this is not a person
Speaker 3: that I think would have done that on this is
Speaker 3: right in my experiences with her, she is not the
Speaker 3: person that's and it's probably she just was like so.
Speaker 4: She doesn't want you to and okay, okay, let's go,
Speaker 4: Like she doesn't want to say no to the two
Speaker 4: year old. I mean, I see that, but your feelings
Speaker 4: are still there around it, and it's just all very fair.
Speaker 2: They are there. The feelings are still really there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's my girl, and you know now kind of
Speaker 3: this mom's m O with it, and whether or not
Speaker 3: you want to continue strong friendship with her is your
Speaker 3: choice because your feelings are valid in it. We had
Speaker 3: and let's all go in a curse.
Speaker 5: I'll ride.
Speaker 2: That'd be fun.
Speaker 3: Fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take I'm gonna pin. The other thing.
Speaker 3: I there's a second part of this where I can
Speaker 3: see the pattern of behavior, and I'm usually the one
Speaker 3: creating the magic. So that was the thing that was
Speaker 3: the tears I had with Amy yesterday. I said, I'm
Speaker 3: always the one trying to create the magic, and I
Speaker 3: feel like I keep missing now, like that's the stuff
Speaker 3: that matters most to me, you know. So my if
Speaker 3: I was watching, you know, I was watching from my
Speaker 3: I'm coming out of my exaics, you know, blur. This
Speaker 3: person just felt like they wanted to be the star
Speaker 3: of the show. Is the reaction kind of what I
Speaker 3: felt from this person. That's what you thought, That's what
Speaker 3: I felt. Okay, See, I don't get the vibe honestly
Speaker 3: of that, but I did.
Speaker 2: I went.
Speaker 3: You guys, when I tell you, this is why I didn't.
Speaker 3: I was afraid to even bring it up. But I know,
Speaker 3: just in the grandparent area, that people have felt these
Speaker 3: kinds of things before. I've just never felt that because
Speaker 3: I don't have grandparents really available and people that would
Speaker 3: do that. So I just I tried to think of
Speaker 3: it that way too. I was like, Gosh, it matter
Speaker 3: to her that she was the one, But I don't, really,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think so. I just think
Speaker 3: it doesn't. I don't know that I carry a certain
Speaker 3: amount of weight with things that I don't know that
Speaker 3: that weight probably again.
Speaker 4: I don't think it does that it might not have
Speaker 4: mattered to other people as much.
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Speaker 3: Listen to I Do Part two on the iHeartRadio app,
Speaker 3: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Glenn Powell's
Speaker 3: ex GG Paris breaks her silence on the Sydney Sweeney
Speaker 3: romance rumors after their public split. She says, I hope
Speaker 3: they're in love. She goes, I just wanted respect, especially
Speaker 3: if it's going to be public. She continued, like, don't
Speaker 3: make an ass out of me, Like, just don't make
Speaker 3: a fool out of someone you've been with for over
Speaker 3: three years, talking about forever with. Just have some decency,
Speaker 3: you know. At the end of the day. It was like, well,
Speaker 3: work comes first, and if that's the case, power to you.
Speaker 3: That's your priority. I gotta walk away. What sucked was
Speaker 3: how it was handled. I felt like I was just
Speaker 3: fed to the dogs. It was serving them for their
Speaker 3: it was serving them for their pr Later on it
Speaker 3: turned out that it was all I don't know if
Speaker 3: there was a relationship there or not, but then it
Speaker 3: came out to say it was all a pr a
Speaker 3: scheme at the expense of our relationship, like it was
Speaker 3: just crazy just to sell a movie or not.
Speaker 2: Who knows.
Speaker 3: And I honestly hope they'd end up together because I
Speaker 3: was like, well, at least it would have made it
Speaker 3: worth it for me. She goes, I hope they're in
Speaker 3: love or whatnot? Do you guys think that? So are
Speaker 3: they still together? I don't know if they ever were together,
Speaker 3: that's the thing. So so she was with him. I
Speaker 3: love the fact that she said something, because it's gotta
Speaker 3: been eating her up that all of this, I mean,
Speaker 3: her relationship imploded because of essentially this all the talk
Speaker 3: of the movie.
Speaker 2: So I love that she was able to find her
Speaker 2: voice in this. Yeah, for long. They were together for
Speaker 2: three and a half years. What's her name is, Sydney.
Speaker 3: I always want to call her Sunday And I don't
Speaker 3: know why they do the movie together and after the
Speaker 3: movie again my favorite romantic. I love the movie so much.
Speaker 3: I think it's great. I think they're so cute. I
Speaker 3: would love for them to be together. I hate that
Speaker 3: it might have been on the brink of sure and
Speaker 3: cheating or whatever. But I don't think what she said
Speaker 3: confirms one way or the other, whether it's right now ye,
Speaker 3: I don't either. Yeah, I think it was like, in
Speaker 3: my mind, what I make up from that was it
Speaker 3: was hard to deal with all the chatter of someone
Speaker 3: possibly having an affair, you know, and maybe he didn't
Speaker 3: do a good enough job making her feel comfortable right
Speaker 3: in that moment. So that's why I'm like, more power
Speaker 3: to you for peacing out, especially with I mean not
Speaker 3: to sound like this, but like Glenn Powell, he's a
Speaker 3: really big I mean, he's he's a big actor, he's
Speaker 3: you know, good looking dude. Like that must have been
Speaker 3: really hard. So I'm like, oh, yeah, that girl's super
Speaker 3: strong to walk away from that. Yeah, I agree, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I just I hate it.
Speaker 2: I hate it for her.
Speaker 3: I also just feel like it's worth saying that if
Speaker 3: you have to question where you stand ever the fair
Speaker 3: decision to end it. Yeah, and maybe there was issues
Speaker 3: before too that, you know, and this was just kind
Speaker 3: of lateral damage of all the.
Speaker 2: Pr for the movie.
Speaker 3: Hurtful, But yeah, I gotta imagine that would be incredibly
Speaker 3: hurtful because they were I wouldn't be able to do it,
Speaker 3: I can say that for sure. Which part to watch
Speaker 3: them go be whatever, whether it's publicity or not.
Speaker 1: That ant with all the chatter of all of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: I mean I think we talked about that at some
Speaker 3: point during one of them where I was like, I mean,
Speaker 3: that would be so hard because I'm like, what is
Speaker 3: the truth, and they're so good together in the.
Speaker 1: Mid that would be so hard hard we had a girlfriend.
Speaker 2: I thought, these two.
Speaker 1: Like everyone wants them to be together.
Speaker 2: So that's fun. You know, it's like we want to
Speaker 2: Kate McConaughey to be a thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, have you all noticed anything different? Getting older in
Speaker 3: the sex in the bedroom?
Speaker 1: Graver?
Speaker 2: Because halle Berry.
Speaker 3: Is chatting about it, going through menopause, the you know,
Speaker 3: vaginal dryness of things, and talking to her to her
Speaker 3: doctors about it. I don't think enough women talk about it.
Speaker 3: So I've heard that is how old is she?
Speaker 2: She's fifty? Oh, oh geez, and she's just is.
Speaker 1: That so we've got a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well there's talking menopause.
Speaker 1: Like actually going through menopause.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have heard, though, I have heard the dryness
Speaker 3: becomes a thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think during menopause.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I haven't experienced the dryness yet. I did get my
Speaker 3: labs back. I'm not in perimenopause totally fine, which is
Speaker 3: just so strange. Having said that, a lot of people
Speaker 3: did tell me, though, that they did start skipping even
Speaker 3: before they were in perimenopause.
Speaker 2: So I mean, listen, I'm forty one years old. Sure
Speaker 2: it's coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: And my mom, I don't know if it's genetic, but
Speaker 3: she went through menopause at thirty four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whoa, I know.
Speaker 2: That's why.
Speaker 3: That's why I rushed into having kids. Yeah, not that
Speaker 3: like I always wanted to have kids, but also I
Speaker 3: was like, thirty four. That was always my clock because
Speaker 3: I was terrified.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's fair.
Speaker 4: Hey, if we can skip a period and not have
Speaker 4: the like side effects of menopause, I'm all for it. Insane,
Speaker 4: give me a skips weird, I would love that.
Speaker 2: I'm more sad that Halle Berry's not having good sex. Guys.
Speaker 2: I think she is. She's just I don't know if
Speaker 2: she is.
Speaker 3: She found her she finally found her person. You know,
Speaker 3: she goes, I finally found my person, And now the
Speaker 3: worst joke in the world happened to me. But listen,
Speaker 3: there is there is lube for reasons. Having said that
Speaker 3: that shit's sticky, I don't use it. I mean, like,
Speaker 3: you know, one time I probably have miss unfortunately at
Speaker 3: this age, and you know, all I hear in my
Speaker 3: head is Miss Rachel stick yek yek yecky bo's.
Speaker 2: I think of that. Well now I have as you.
Speaker 3: If Miss Rachel pops into your mind when you're in
Speaker 3: bed with your Scottish God. No, I'm just saying, when
Speaker 3: it comes to Loube God, mercy s better not be
Speaker 3: a headline.
Speaker 2: But that is just what I think about Sticky.
Speaker 3: I did, I had, I did have lunch or dinner
Speaker 3: last week of the friend.
Speaker 2: I hadn't seen it in a really long time.
Speaker 3: She's in her fifties and she's always been this like
Speaker 3: very vibrant sexual, like like energy hippie, like she just
Speaker 3: is this. She's so wonderful to me and I really
Speaker 3: love her. But she's always been overly sexual, not in
Speaker 3: a way that you like are you know, you know,
Speaker 3: hide your husband kind of feeling, just that she's always
Speaker 3: loved it because it's coming edge.
Speaker 2: I do it.
Speaker 3: So but it was interesting because I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: like we were just talking about marriage and they've been
Speaker 3: together for a really long time, and she was like yeah, no, no,
Speaker 3: we haven't had sex since like nineteen, I think twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, I mean I must have just
Speaker 3: I couldn't hide it, you know. And I said, no,
Speaker 3: you need that, like you know. I was like, are
Speaker 3: you okay? Is that okay with you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And she said yeah. I think it's fine that
Speaker 2: I'm in a sexless marriage.
Speaker 3: And I I don't know how to feel.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not there yet at fifty.
Speaker 3: Listen, I have a friend that has not had sex
Speaker 3: with her husband ever, ever, ever, what? And it's been
Speaker 3: something where I have through so many times asking like
Speaker 3: how does this work?
Speaker 2: Do they have other sexes? Other people?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Like do they have a kind of there's sex?
Speaker 1: Is that we need to pick up?
Speaker 2: Like different kinds of sex? Do they? I feel like
Speaker 2: it doesn't work. He mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Well so he could certainly pleasure her in other ways,
Speaker 3: but I don't ask because it got to a part
Speaker 3: where I had asked it was hard for me to understand.
Speaker 2: It's not hard for him too soon, it's too soon.
Speaker 3: And she was like, we find other ways to connect
Speaker 3: emotionally and physically. So I think for some people, and again,
Speaker 3: let me listen, I think on the couch. You're the
Speaker 3: least active of us all, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And it's like, I mean, you've talked about that, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like that, she was like, I
Speaker 2: didn't want to talk about today. You don't like talking
Speaker 2: about sex.
Speaker 3: I do not, so like we do like se more
Speaker 3: so I think somebody but I only did talk about
Speaker 3: it as much I get.
Speaker 2: So I'm sweating right now. Really, I have no problem.
Speaker 3: I know you Samantha, Samantha, so.
Speaker 2: I do miss being on the road with you.
Speaker 3: Guys. This is the stuff we like to just make
Speaker 3: each other wildly uncomfortable, so I think, and that works
Speaker 3: for y'all's relationship. You guys have found a rhythm I
Speaker 3: think where we might not understand someone that has a
Speaker 3: sexless marriage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not judging it.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, I'm just saying it might just work
Speaker 3: differently for other people, of course, Like oh, sure, it's
Speaker 3: the rides on carousels look a little different.
Speaker 2: Some of them aren't riding at all. It seems some
Speaker 2: are just a love for the joy. Lord. Anyways, take like.
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Speaker 2: Good luck, good luck, Bye bye bye