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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, hi all look cute as a new style?

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Speaker 2: I like this? Is it two shirts?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Just one? Oh it's so cute. Thanks, I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's so new. You don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I'm not like it's like she's got a T shirt

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Speaker 3: on the hesitation is that I didn't invent it. It's

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Speaker 3: it's been I'm like, I like, I done it, I

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Speaker 3: pieced it together.

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Speaker 2: But this is just one. I think it's cute.

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Speaker 1: It's so cute.

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Speaker 3: Jeans too structured. Pant means I have business to do today?

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Speaker 3: Do we have anything done? Just a little lunch? Gemini

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Speaker 3: season is upon us, so listen.

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Speaker 2: I think we just need to get right into it.

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Speaker 3: Uh. Kristen has something she wants to talk about and

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Speaker 3: she's pulled to me, and it's really pissed me off,

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Speaker 3: actually for just you know, because I always say, save

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Speaker 3: it for the podcast, save it for the podcast, you know,

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Speaker 3: And so the other day she was like, I'm saving

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Speaker 3: it for the podcast. I was like, oh, doesn't want

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Speaker 3: your genuine reactions. I want your like, I want your

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Speaker 3: unfiltered And and this is we've talked about this a

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Speaker 3: lot on our group chat. People wouldn't know this part,

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Speaker 3: but we want to share our authentic experiences. But it

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Speaker 3: is tricky because we're living a life where maybe some

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Speaker 3: of these people also listen to the podcast. So I'm

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Speaker 3: hesitant because I don't want to throw anyone under the bus.

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Speaker 3: But it is a story, it is factual. It happened

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Speaker 3: to me, and it's the truth, and I think this

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Speaker 3: is this is the piece where it gets tricky because

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Speaker 3: we have I have spoken about things. It has then

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Speaker 3: been made public to the people and listen. I chose

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Speaker 3: to speak about it sure knowing that it very well

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Speaker 3: might go back to that person, and I have to

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Speaker 3: be okay with that either a conversation with that person,

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Speaker 3: like you too, Catherine, She's like, well, my mom called

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Speaker 3: me the other day, you know.

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Speaker 2: So it's like we have to be okay with sharing.

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Speaker 3: But it's too hard to go thirty thousand feet above

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Speaker 3: is so it's like you have to come down and

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Speaker 3: then you have to be okay with it this person

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Speaker 3: if it gets to the person, because these salutes that

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Speaker 3: just listen to pick us apart, well, then find the

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Speaker 3: person to then send it to the person you know,

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Speaker 3: and it's like, okay, yes, I said that. So I

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Speaker 3: have to either a own it and be have the

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Speaker 3: conversation or be fine with maybe a relationship not like

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Speaker 3: with okay, with a relationship falling apart. But I've actually

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Speaker 3: had positive conversations from when that's happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think we're usually pretty avoid your mom.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she shaid something again old and I pushed her

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Speaker 2: to voicemail. I was like, wait to handle it.

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Speaker 4: She said something again the other day that didn't have

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Speaker 4: but it made me know that she heard.

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Speaker 1: Off that and I was like, oh, okay, we're just

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Speaker 1: going to keep avoiding. No I did. I avoided, but.

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Speaker 3: It's your truth, and so you either going to spark

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Speaker 3: a conversation or listen to your mom. So it's not

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Speaker 3: like she's going to disown you, right all.

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Speaker 4: The other things. I feel like we're usually pretty like, hey,

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Speaker 4: this is what happened, this is how I felt.

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Speaker 1: This is and I think that that's all fair.

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Speaker 4: Whether we're ready to have that conversation like I wasn't,

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Speaker 4: or we you know, I still think it's okay to

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Speaker 4: talk about it and say that this is how I felt.

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Speaker 4: Knowing that there's always another side to a story. There's

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Speaker 4: always feelings on the other side, you know, all those things.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we're doing anything bad, but it is

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Speaker 4: hard to like even our social thing.

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Speaker 1: For today, I was like, ooh, it was.

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Speaker 4: A little like a little obvious to that person, probably

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Speaker 4: who I was referencing. But I was like, but that's

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Speaker 4: okay because I've talked to her about it. She knows

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Speaker 4: that's how I.

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Speaker 2: Feel, same at this situation. So I think it's okay.

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Speaker 4: So, but I need to know does Janna not know

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Speaker 4: for real or does she know she doesn't know? Okay,

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Speaker 4: so this is like a real one. We saved it

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Speaker 4: for I even.

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Speaker 3: Called her the other day because something happened where Okay,

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Speaker 3: so I had my oblasion.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get to it. Yeah, I always tell

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Speaker 2: this this mine can easily be a little whine about

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Speaker 2: it too. Okay, Well it dat it's a good trans No.

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Speaker 3: So I had So I had my official So I

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Speaker 3: had two test blockers, and then I had my official

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Speaker 3: ablasion on Monday, where they put the needle in your

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Speaker 3: back and then they burn off the specific nerves they

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Speaker 3: think are causing you pain. The funniest piece about this

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Speaker 3: was I've now done the two test blockers, which I've

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Speaker 3: been nervous in them and asked a million questions like

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Speaker 3: will I be able to like what happens if you

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Speaker 3: hit the wrong nerve? Will I then lose all like

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Speaker 3: movement in my legs? And like can I be pairs?

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Speaker 3: All valid questions. I was say, very this is not

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Speaker 3: you being it's your back you so that's right, and

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Speaker 3: I mean all the things of like run and I'm

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Speaker 3: a Googler, so a google. So I go to the

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Speaker 3: appointment and they had said that you like they usually

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Speaker 3: give like a light sedation like a x annex because

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Speaker 3: it's only it takes like twenty minutes, so there's no

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Speaker 3: real point to like go down for like yes, they

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Speaker 3: as anxious. Sure that can just lay there because you're

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Speaker 3: pretty much numby, feel a little bit of the pain.

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Speaker 3: So nurse comes in and she gives me a x ANEX.

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Speaker 3: About two minutes later, she comes in with the second

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Speaker 3: XANX and she goes, here's a second one, and I go.

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Speaker 2: To doctor Todd tell you to didn't tell you to

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Speaker 2: give me a second xanex. She goes he did.

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Speaker 3: I was like okay, I was like, well can I

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Speaker 3: take I was like, I don't like taking things, and

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Speaker 3: I've already taken one, but.

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Speaker 2: I only feel the one. So she's like, take THEA.

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Speaker 3: So I took two, right, which is a lot for me,

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Speaker 3: Like I'm used to taking a half of a half like,

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Speaker 3: also a lot for any human too. Xanax right, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like most normal people that take XANX take like one.

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Speaker 3: it's like my you know, my my water bottle, like

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Speaker 3: it's my companion emotional support Zana. Yeah, just to know

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Speaker 3: it is Lion's birthday and you so I get I

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Speaker 3: So and then it really hit me once the procedure

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Speaker 3: like falling over in the car, fall asleep, and I

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Speaker 3: don't even remember did we talk Kramer? I wish, I said,

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Speaker 3: I am one percent repeating this whole story on the podcast.

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Speaker 3: And because you were drugged, I and I told you

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Speaker 3: that I was going to I still get to because

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Speaker 3: I told you it was going to So she calls me,

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Speaker 3: she's like, hey, so calm because I was like, hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure this out. Well, well, she was

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Speaker 3: trying to figure out her lion's birthday and I don't

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Speaker 3: want to say no. And I didn't tell her about

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Speaker 3: the oblasion because I'm like, you know, it's her daughter's

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Speaker 3: second birthday, and like, yeah, I'm gonna try to make it.

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Speaker 3: And this isn't even a big thing. It was just

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Speaker 3: we had to head to Legends baseball game. I was like,

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Speaker 2: Do I even do it? Is it worth it? So

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Speaker 2: she calls me, don't remember? Oh we were?

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Speaker 3: It was Eastern Jana Oha is.

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Speaker 2: Our favorite Janna.

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Speaker 3: For those of you that don't know, Eastern Jana is

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Speaker 2: Hunting. I was like, that's what they're doing, honey, good job.

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Speaker 2: So she calls me.

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Speaker 3: An Eastern Jana Moe and she goes, I mean, and

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Speaker 3: I don't know that the Ablasian happens. I'm just like,

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Speaker 3: what am I dealing with here? Like I know she's

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Speaker 3: not drinking, Like, what is that in mid afternoon at best,

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Speaker 3: you know, and I I had the Ablasian.

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Speaker 2: I haven't. Can I share the meeting that you had?

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Speaker 2: What meeting? A very important point? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So she goes, I have a Netflix meeting today at

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Speaker 3: four And I said, Janna, what's going on? Oh the Ablasian.

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Speaker 3: They gave me two xanax. I just woke up from

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Speaker 3: my exanax. And I'm like, are you sure you're awake?

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Speaker 3: And she goes, well, you know, the Netflix calls at

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Speaker 3: four and I go, yeah, that's in fifteen minutes. Like

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to get nervous, and she doesn't. She doesn't caffeine.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, how are we going to get this

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Speaker 3: like a really bad after school special, Like you're going

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Speaker 3: to lose the gig. And I couldn't cancel it because

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Speaker 3: we had canceled on her because of our flight.

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Speaker 4: And I've wondered when you said yes to this in

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Speaker 4: the first place. I was like, oh, this thing must

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Speaker 4: not be a big deal at all, which obviously like,

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Speaker 4: but who knew you were going to have Tuesday?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, like so Eastern Jamma.

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Speaker 3: So then she goes, yeah, I had an as i

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Speaker 3: e bowl, fell asleep eating that, so that's all.

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Speaker 2: Over the comforter.

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Speaker 1: She was over my stuff.

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Speaker 4: Well, the funny thing is is I thought you were

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Speaker 2: Because I felt a little something?

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Speaker 3: She said me no, okay, yeah, I said not at

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Speaker 3: this is cute. She's gonna have all these little people around. Fine, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Never. Okay, where's Easter, Janna? Okay, So.

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Speaker 3: There's a carousel, a new handcrafted carousel that has been

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Speaker 3: We were going to go check it out this coming weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like gorgeous. So I told the family,

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Speaker 3: It's going to be great. Right, we're in and out.

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Speaker 3: She knew, she said, I heard her say it. This

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Speaker 3: And some people will be like it's just a carousel,

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Speaker 3: husband's running tight, pr free. He's like, no, she didn't know,

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00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,080
Speaker 3: and I was like, no, she knew. And then, you know,

433
00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,840
Speaker 3: she came over to me afterwards and was like, and

434
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,240
Speaker 3: I didn't cry. I didn't, but my demeanor changed. I'm

435
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,920
Speaker 3: such a heart on the sleeve, like you can tell,

436
00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,240
Speaker 3: she said. She said, I'm really sorry. I just you know,

437
00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:30,399
Speaker 3: she asked me three times.

438
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:30,840
Speaker 2: She's too.

439
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,560
Speaker 3: She asked me three times, and I just couldn't say no.

440
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,920
Speaker 3: And I'm like, and I couldn't say it was okay

441
00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,360
Speaker 3: because it wasn't okay, and that'd be lying.

442
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,800
Speaker 2: So I didn't say it was okay.

443
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,320
Speaker 3: I said, well, it happened, and I said and it

444
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 3: just hard for me because that's my tomorrow, you know.

445
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 3: And then the comment was made. I don't know how

446
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 3: accurate this was because I was in my like you guys,

447
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,679
Speaker 3: my emotions were like swirling. I hold on to this

448
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,120
Speaker 3: last baby. I've treated every one of them like they're

449
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,360
Speaker 3: the last baby, because they're I'm just never guaranteed, right,

450
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,679
Speaker 3: but like this one specifically is so animated and so

451
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,639
Speaker 3: like intriguing to me, whether it's just my age with

452
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 3: her or whatever. And she goes, well, you know, I

453
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 3: think she would have been nervous the first time. That's

454
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,479
Speaker 3: the good news, because she was really nervous the first time.

455
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 3: But then she said and I was like, and she's like, oh,

456
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 3: I go how many times? And she's like where, you know,

457
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,640
Speaker 3: like like a few And I'm like, what is happening

458
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 3: right now?

459
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,439
Speaker 2: Like I felt, did you say that?

460
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, you guys you know me, like I can

461
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 3: hold it together until I can't hold it together.

462
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,120
Speaker 2: I would also add, I.

463
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 3: Would also add in this ecosystem of what's happening, And

464
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 3: I should have put this at the beginning. There's another

465
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 3: mom at this party that my husband has history with

466
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 3: and so, and she's fine and lovely and that was

467
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 3: a long time ago, but like that's also in my

468
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 3: orbit at this time, and I don't feel any certain

469
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 3: way about it. We've seen each other a million times.

470
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 3: She's never acknowledged the history with him.

471
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:57,439
Speaker 2: I know it.

472
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 3: I haven't acknowledged history with her. We've run into each other,

473
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 3: like she's in the same group. You guys are big

474
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 3: fans of her, so she's she's there, I'll you know whatever.

475
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 3: And I made a joke I even meet she was

476
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 3: at your birthday party, So I made a joke and

477
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 3: I was like, hey, guys, good to see you. And

478
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 3: her husband's like, try to introduce some sself and I

479
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 3: was like, oh, you don't recognize me.

480
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 2: I was best actress. It's hard some people.

481
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 3: You know, like we made I was like, very funny

482
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 3: and nice. So but that is swirling in my body

483
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 3: somewhere too that I'm just like here we go, you know,

484
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 3: and I'm feeling super bloated. This has been a hormonal,

485
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 3: weird time, so I'm just not really feeling the greatest everywhere.

486
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 3: And then I have this little emotional like ambush of

487
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 3: now Lyon's first time. So, so how does it end?

488
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 3: I just it doesn't end. I just said, I mean,

489
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 3: I couldn't say it was okay. She apologized again. I

490
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 3: could tell she felt bad, but there was that was it.

491
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 3: And then we ended up all getting lunched together in

492
00:21:54,560 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 3: that same area and that was not So. I brought

493
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 3: it to Amy yesterday because I'm like, am I ridiculous

494
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 3: that this still The problem I'm having a little too

495
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 3: right now is like my hormones are a little bit crazy.

496
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 3: I'm very estrogen dominant, so there's some like I want

497
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 3: to make sure I'm being in my right mind, and

498
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 3: I'm not blowing something up that and I didn't. I'm

499
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 3: not making it try to be bigger than it is,

500
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 3: to minimize your feelings around it, because I feel like

501
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 3: that's kind of what that. I get why you're trying

502
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 3: to cross check it. Yes, reference, yeah, but also it

503
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 3: is important to and here are the reasons why it was.

504
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: Whether it's ridiculous, yeah, it doesn't. People fight.

505
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: It's not about the lamp. They're not fighting over a

506
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 3: lamp shade, right, They're fighting over the Yes.

507
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it doesn't matter what that situation was or

508
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 4: if anyone agrees or disagrees.

509
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 1: It's you.

510
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 4: It's your child, it's your choice, so it doesn't matter

511
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 4: at the end of the day. What are your thoughts, Catherine, Well,

512
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 4: so y'all didn't talk about it after this, Well.

513
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 3: I couldn't say anything other than I said. She was like,

514
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 3: you know, she just kept saying, she was like, I'm

515
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 3: so sorry. Yeah, And I think they operate very differently

516
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 3: than us. They I you know, just in the times

517
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: we've spent with them, they're a family that just they

518
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 3: they are always doing all the things, and you know,

519
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 3: and so we our family has boundaries about like around

520
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 3: buying things, and we don't always get everything. We don't

521
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 3: need to go every time we go somewhere, we don't

522
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,959
Speaker 3: need to get a prize like just for the delayed

523
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 3: gratification of like life, because this is a crazy age.

524
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: So but I and I would say that this.

525
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 3: I felt really conflicted even sharing it because this person

526
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 3: is so nice.

527
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 2: She's just a nice person. But I also was like, gosh,

528
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: I know this is going to resonate.

529
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: With people because I've heard, like I've heard grandma's taking

530
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 3: kids to get first.

531
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,239
Speaker 1: Right that it's definitely a grandmother thing today, Yeah, it

532
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: feels very like something might yeah yeah.

533
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 3: But even then it would have been with someone that's

534
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 3: a grandma. Like I'm just I felt so I feel

535
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 3: I still feel sad. I took her on Monday, we

536
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 3: went back, it was pouring rain.

537
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: And she came to her this person still came to

538
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: her party.

539
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah it already.

540
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 3: I mean I didn't make a huge scene, right, I

541
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: couldn't tell her it was okay, I didn't. I just said, well,

542
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: I said, well it happened, yeah, And I said, and

543
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 3: that was going to be my tomorrow with her, And that's.

544
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: All I can say.

545
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 4: I mean, I hate that that happened to you, and

546
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 4: I think your feelings are all very very very valid,

547
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 4: and it's also kind of an unfortunate situation because I

548
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 4: don't know because it's happened. Also really what she can

549
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 4: do at this point, because it took it away from

550
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 4: you no matter what.

551
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

552
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 4: I mean it just like it kind of is because

553
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think, like if I were to accidentally

554
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 4: do that to somebody, you know, what could you or

555
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 4: not accidentally if I did that to somebody, you know,

556
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 4: maybe thinking in my head it wasn't that big, it

557
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 4: wasn't as big of a deal, and then realizing it was,

558
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 4: I mean, what can you do besides apologize? Is really

559
00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 4: all that she can do? But also so maybe really

560
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 4: acknowledging your feelings like maybe you know, like oh my,

561
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know. I just feel like if

562
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 4: I was in that position and I had been the

563
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 4: one who had done it, I would have to just

564
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 4: like fall over profusely like I know, there's nothing I

565
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 4: can do. I took this away from you, and I

566
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,239
Speaker 4: just could not be more sorry. You know, I don't know,

567
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 4: because now it's just kind of feels cozier. Yeah, I

568
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 4: mean I think that's all you can do is just

569
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 4: fall on the sword and go, oh my God, like

570
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 4: I took this from you and I'm so sorry.

571
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: I if I if it was a miss, Like, that's

572
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 3: the part that it's hard for me. If I hadn't

573
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: said that it meant something like. That's where I just

574
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 3: kept going, like, I am I graciously assume about people

575
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: to detriment for myself.

576
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where I think it's.

577
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 3: People need to honor parents requests around things because it

578
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 3: is important to them, Like, for example, I don't want

579
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 3: my kids having X, Y and Z. Please honor the

580
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 3: fact that I don't want my kids to be playing

581
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 3: rollblocks when that is something important to me I don't want.

582
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 3: And so if the parent's like, oh sorry, but but

583
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 3: I voiced it, I said, And it's different than them

584
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: not knowing, right. So, for example, we had something where

585
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 3: Jace had a friend come over and I texted the

586
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 3: mom because other moms are different around this area. With swimming,

587
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 3: I said, can this can your boy swim? And she's like, yes,

588
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: but not well. And I don't allow them to swim

589
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: unless unless I'm present, and I'm like.

590
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: Totally get it.

591
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll make sure the pool thing is closed. But

592
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 3: any other parent would be like, well I was there

593
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 3: and not be like oh sorry, like they really wanted

594
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: to go in, because they did they asked, like when

595
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 3: I was like, no, buddy, sorry, like your mommy has

596
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: to be here and you know so and she said

597
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: she said no. Like bottom line, it's honoring the parents'

598
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 3: request because easily I can be like, oh, yeah, they.

599
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 2: Really they begged me, they wanted to go in.

600
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: But no, that parent does not want there's child doing that,

601
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: and we have to honor what the parent wants because

602
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 3: it's important to them.

603
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it. I'm like, I don't It wouldn't matter.

604
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 3: Whether it was a carousel or swimming in a pool

605
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 3: or you know, do not mean going.

606
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: To care it? I don't care. Well, just let me

607
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: have it.

608
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 4: I know another like very not similar but kind of

609
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 4: similar thing happened to us with and it wasn't intentional,

610
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 4: but my feelings still were there. So that's another side

611
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 4: of it. Like Emmy had found out she was out

612
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 4: of town. When she found out what team she made,

613
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 4: they were going to do a reveal for her. But

614
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 4: I had told the mom's what team, but we knew.

615
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: I I think everyone knew we were doing reveals. But

616
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 4: and her daughter told my daughter what team she made

617
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 4: before her reveal. Now that was a big deal to

618
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 4: me because I wanted her to have her moment her

619
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 4: balloon where she pops her balloon, finds out whatever.

620
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: Did she do it intentionally? No, she did not tell

621
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: her to.

622
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 4: I wish she would have thought about it and told

623
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,239
Speaker 4: her daughter, hey, don't say anything yet because she's going

624
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 4: to have a reveal.

625
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: But she didn't.

626
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 4: But my feelings were still there and it wasn't even intentional.

627
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 4: So I think it's important for you to know that,

628
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 4: like those feelings of disappointment and something you missed out

629
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 4: on for you your daughter are still valid, whether it's intentional

630
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 4: not intentional. They're sorry, not sorry, like it's just such.

631
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 3: A nice person like I this is not a person

632
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 3: that I think would have done that on this is

633
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: right in my experiences with her, she is not the

634
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 3: person that's and it's probably she just was like so.

635
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 4: She doesn't want you to and okay, okay, let's go,

636
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: Like she doesn't want to say no to the two

637
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 4: year old. I mean, I see that, but your feelings

638
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 4: are still there around it, and it's just all very fair.

639
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: They are there. The feelings are still really there.

640
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's great.

641
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's my girl, and you know now kind of

642
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 3: this mom's m O with it, and whether or not

643
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: you want to continue strong friendship with her is your

644
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: choice because your feelings are valid in it. We had

645
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: and let's all go in a curse.

646
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 5: I'll ride.

647
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: That'd be fun.

648
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 3: Fun.

649
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take I'm gonna pin. The other thing.

650
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: I there's a second part of this where I can

651
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: see the pattern of behavior, and I'm usually the one

652
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: creating the magic. So that was the thing that was

653
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 3: the tears I had with Amy yesterday. I said, I'm

654
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: always the one trying to create the magic, and I

655
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: feel like I keep missing now, like that's the stuff

656
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: that matters most to me, you know. So my if

657
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: I was watching, you know, I was watching from my

658
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: I'm coming out of my exaics, you know, blur. This

659
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 3: person just felt like they wanted to be the star

660
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: of the show. Is the reaction kind of what I

661
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 3: felt from this person. That's what you thought, That's what

662
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: I felt. Okay, See, I don't get the vibe honestly

663
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: of that, but I did.

664
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: I went.

665
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: You guys, when I tell you, this is why I didn't.

666
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 3: I was afraid to even bring it up. But I know,

667
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 3: just in the grandparent area, that people have felt these

668
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: kinds of things before. I've just never felt that because

669
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: I don't have grandparents really available and people that would

670
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: do that. So I just I tried to think of

671
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 3: it that way too. I was like, Gosh, it matter

672
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: to her that she was the one, But I don't, really,

673
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think so. I just think

674
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 3: it doesn't. I don't know that I carry a certain

675
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 3: amount of weight with things that I don't know that

676
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 3: that weight probably again.

677
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 4: I don't think it does that it might not have

678
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 4: mattered to other people as much.

679
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, Summer is the season of love, Summer loveing, Here

680
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 5: we come. If you're old enough to remember Summer Loven,

681
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 5: you're old enough to find and I do Part two.

682
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 5: Listen each week as our hosts make it their goal

683
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 5: to find you the next true love of your life.

684
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Speaker 5: Jenny Garth, Jana Kramer, Alexia Napola, Cheryl Burke, Jen Fessler,

685
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Speaker 5: Kelly Ben Simone, Amy Robock, and TJ holmes are dedicated

686
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Speaker 5: to helping you fall in love again. It's time to

687
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Speaker 5: make it hot, hot hot this summer.

688
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Speaker 3: Listen to I Do Part two on the iHeartRadio app,

689
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 3: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Glenn Powell's

690
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: ex GG Paris breaks her silence on the Sydney Sweeney

691
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: romance rumors after their public split. She says, I hope

692
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 3: they're in love. She goes, I just wanted respect, especially

693
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: if it's going to be public. She continued, like, don't

694
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: make an ass out of me, Like, just don't make

695
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: a fool out of someone you've been with for over

696
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: three years, talking about forever with. Just have some decency,

697
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: you know. At the end of the day. It was like, well,

698
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: work comes first, and if that's the case, power to you.

699
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: That's your priority. I gotta walk away. What sucked was

700
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: how it was handled. I felt like I was just

701
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 3: fed to the dogs. It was serving them for their

702
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: it was serving them for their pr Later on it

703
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: turned out that it was all I don't know if

704
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 3: there was a relationship there or not, but then it

705
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: came out to say it was all a pr a

706
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 3: scheme at the expense of our relationship, like it was

707
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: just crazy just to sell a movie or not.

708
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: Who knows.

709
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: And I honestly hope they'd end up together because I

710
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: was like, well, at least it would have made it

711
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: worth it for me. She goes, I hope they're in

712
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: love or whatnot? Do you guys think that? So are

713
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: they still together? I don't know if they ever were together,

714
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 3: that's the thing. So so she was with him. I

715
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 3: love the fact that she said something, because it's gotta

716
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: been eating her up that all of this, I mean,

717
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: her relationship imploded because of essentially this all the talk

718
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: of the movie.

719
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: So I love that she was able to find her

720
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: voice in this. Yeah, for long. They were together for

721
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: three and a half years. What's her name is, Sydney.

722
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: I always want to call her Sunday And I don't

723
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: know why they do the movie together and after the

724
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: movie again my favorite romantic. I love the movie so much.

725
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: I think it's great. I think they're so cute. I

726
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: would love for them to be together. I hate that

727
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 3: it might have been on the brink of sure and

728
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: cheating or whatever. But I don't think what she said

729
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: confirms one way or the other, whether it's right now ye,

730
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: I don't either. Yeah, I think it was like, in

731
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: my mind, what I make up from that was it

732
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: was hard to deal with all the chatter of someone

733
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: possibly having an affair, you know, and maybe he didn't

734
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 3: do a good enough job making her feel comfortable right

735
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 3: in that moment. So that's why I'm like, more power

736
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: to you for peacing out, especially with I mean not

737
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: to sound like this, but like Glenn Powell, he's a

738
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 3: really big I mean, he's he's a big actor, he's

739
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: you know, good looking dude. Like that must have been

740
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: really hard. So I'm like, oh, yeah, that girl's super

741
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: strong to walk away from that. Yeah, I agree, Yeah,

742
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: I just I hate it.

743
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: I hate it for her.

744
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: I also just feel like it's worth saying that if

745
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: you have to question where you stand ever the fair

746
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 3: decision to end it. Yeah, and maybe there was issues

747
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: before too that, you know, and this was just kind

748
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: of lateral damage of all the.

749
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: Pr for the movie.

750
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: Hurtful, But yeah, I gotta imagine that would be incredibly

751
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: hurtful because they were I wouldn't be able to do it,

752
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: I can say that for sure. Which part to watch

753
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: them go be whatever, whether it's publicity or not.

754
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: That ant with all the chatter of all of that.

755
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

756
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: I mean I think we talked about that at some

757
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: point during one of them where I was like, I mean,

758
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: that would be so hard because I'm like, what is

759
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: the truth, and they're so good together in the.

760
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: Mid that would be so hard hard we had a girlfriend.

761
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 2: I thought, these two.

762
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: Like everyone wants them to be together.

763
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: So that's fun. You know, it's like we want to

764
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: Kate McConaughey to be a thing.

765
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

766
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, have you all noticed anything different? Getting older in

767
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: the sex in the bedroom?

768
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: Graver?

769
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: Because halle Berry.

770
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: Is chatting about it, going through menopause, the you know,

771
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: vaginal dryness of things, and talking to her to her

772
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: doctors about it. I don't think enough women talk about it.

773
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 3: So I've heard that is how old is she?

774
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: She's fifty? Oh, oh geez, and she's just is.

775
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: That so we've got a while.

776
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well there's talking menopause.

777
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: Like actually going through menopause.

778
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have heard, though, I have heard the dryness

779
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 3: becomes a thing.

780
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think during menopause.

781
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

782
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: I haven't experienced the dryness yet. I did get my

783
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 3: labs back. I'm not in perimenopause totally fine, which is

784
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: just so strange. Having said that, a lot of people

785
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: did tell me, though, that they did start skipping even

786
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: before they were in perimenopause.

787
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: So I mean, listen, I'm forty one years old. Sure

788
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: it's coming.

789
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

790
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 3: And my mom, I don't know if it's genetic, but

791
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: she went through menopause at thirty four.

792
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, whoa, I know.

793
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: That's why.

794
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 3: That's why I rushed into having kids. Yeah, not that

795
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 3: like I always wanted to have kids, but also I

796
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: was like, thirty four. That was always my clock because

797
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 3: I was terrified.

798
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 2: Yeah that's fair.

799
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 4: Hey, if we can skip a period and not have

800
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: the like side effects of menopause, I'm all for it. Insane,

801
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 4: give me a skips weird, I would love that.

802
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: I'm more sad that Halle Berry's not having good sex. Guys.

803
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: I think she is. She's just I don't know if

804
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: she is.

805
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 3: She found her she finally found her person. You know,

806
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 3: she goes, I finally found my person, And now the

807
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 3: worst joke in the world happened to me. But listen,

808
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 3: there is there is lube for reasons. Having said that

809
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: that shit's sticky, I don't use it. I mean, like,

810
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 3: you know, one time I probably have miss unfortunately at

811
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: this age, and you know, all I hear in my

812
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: head is Miss Rachel stick yek yek yecky bo's.

813
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: I think of that. Well now I have as you.

814
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: If Miss Rachel pops into your mind when you're in

815
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: bed with your Scottish God. No, I'm just saying, when

816
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: it comes to Loube God, mercy s better not be

817
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: a headline.

818
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 2: But that is just what I think about Sticky.

819
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: I did, I had, I did have lunch or dinner

820
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: last week of the friend.

821
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,959
Speaker 2: I hadn't seen it in a really long time.

822
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: She's in her fifties and she's always been this like

823
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: very vibrant sexual, like like energy hippie, like she just

824
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: is this. She's so wonderful to me and I really

825
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: love her. But she's always been overly sexual, not in

826
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: a way that you like are you know, you know,

827
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 3: hide your husband kind of feeling, just that she's always

828
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: loved it because it's coming edge.

829
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: I do it.

830
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 3: So but it was interesting because I was like, you know,

831
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: like we were just talking about marriage and they've been

832
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: together for a really long time, and she was like yeah, no, no,

833
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: we haven't had sex since like nineteen, I think twenty eighteen.

834
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, I mean I must have just

835
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: I couldn't hide it, you know. And I said, no,

836
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: you need that, like you know. I was like, are

837
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: you okay? Is that okay with you?

838
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? And she said yeah. I think it's fine that

839
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: I'm in a sexless marriage.

840
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: And I I don't know how to feel.

841
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not there yet at fifty.

842
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: Listen, I have a friend that has not had sex

843
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: with her husband ever, ever, ever, what? And it's been

844
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: something where I have through so many times asking like

845
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: how does this work?

846
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 2: Do they have other sexes? Other people?

847
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: No?

848
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 2: Like do they have a kind of there's sex?

849
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: Is that we need to pick up?

850
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 2: Like different kinds of sex? Do they? I feel like

851
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't work. He mm hmmm.

852
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: Well so he could certainly pleasure her in other ways,

853
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 3: but I don't ask because it got to a part

854
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 3: where I had asked it was hard for me to understand.

855
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: It's not hard for him too soon, it's too soon.

856
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: And she was like, we find other ways to connect

857
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 3: emotionally and physically. So I think for some people, and again,

858
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 3: let me listen, I think on the couch. You're the

859
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 3: least active of us all, you know what I mean.

860
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: And it's like, I mean, you've talked about that, you

861
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like that, she was like, I

862
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: didn't want to talk about today. You don't like talking

863
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: about sex.

864
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: I do not, so like we do like se more

865
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 3: so I think somebody but I only did talk about

866
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: it as much I get.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sweating right now. Really, I have no problem.

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Speaker 3: I know you Samantha, Samantha, so.

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Speaker 2: I do miss being on the road with you.

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Speaker 3: Guys. This is the stuff we like to just make

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Speaker 3: each other wildly uncomfortable, so I think, and that works

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Speaker 3: for y'all's relationship. You guys have found a rhythm I

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Speaker 3: think where we might not understand someone that has a

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Speaker 3: sexless marriage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not judging it.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, I'm just saying it might just work

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Speaker 3: differently for other people, of course, Like oh, sure, it's

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Speaker 3: the rides on carousels look a little different.

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Speaker 2: Some of them aren't riding at all. It seems some

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Speaker 2: are just a love for the joy. Lord. Anyways, take like.

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Speaker 3: We are escaping today's listening advice. But if you need

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Speaker 3: advice or a girlfriend's take on something, d m us

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Speaker 3: on Instagram, or send us an email at Winddown Podcast

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Speaker 3: gmail dot com. After that last conversation, we're not sure

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Speaker 3: that we're qualified to answer, but we would love to

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Speaker 3: hear from you anyways.

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Speaker 2: Good luck, good luck, Bye bye bye