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That'd be this podcast, and that would be me. 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: Hopefully everyone is having a good week, and we're going 35 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: to talk a little football story, the little old story. 36 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: But I haven't had a chance to talk about it yet. 37 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, I don't play football for the money, and 38 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't even think he's lying. Something Mike Zimmer said today. 39 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: A lot of Cowboys talk actually that I think you've 40 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: got to be very careful about when you're hiring a 41 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: new coordinator in the expectations that come with the scheme 42 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: that you're looking for. The NFLPA wants to revamp the offseason. 43 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: Why it's a moronic idea and Lincoln Riley does not 44 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: want the smoke. Pretty embarrassing story if you're a usc 45 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: Trojan fan. And honestly, this Lincoln situation in USC is 46 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: I got a big red flag over it. Moving forward, 47 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on. We'll discuss it, and 48 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: then it's a couple other little things as well as 49 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: the Middlecoff mailbag at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff is 50 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: the Instagram fire in those dms, and we will read 51 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: some mailbag questions today. 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Like any 88 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: little kid, you emulate the stars on television. When I 89 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: was a kid in little league, everyone had a batting 90 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: stance that was like Ken Griffy Junior. I personally batted 91 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: like Jay Buhner. Didn't even know it was gonna be 92 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: bald at the time. Didn't work. I was terrible at 93 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: baseball or in basketball. You tried to be like Michael 94 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: Jordan or Penny Hardaway or whoever the cool players were 95 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: in the mid nineties, and it's no different now. You 96 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: emulate the stars on television. It's why Steph Curry and 97 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: basketball everyone shooting threes. If you were a golfer in 98 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: the early two thousands, you wanted to be just like 99 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods, but you wanted to play like them. You 100 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: didn't think about like, oh, this guy makes all this money, 101 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: because that's not usually how little kids think. Even through 102 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 1: junior high and high school. You just want to emulate 103 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: the best players because it was fun playing sports. You're 104 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: playing with your buddies. You may be good, you may 105 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: not be good. It's just enjoyable. You truly are playing 106 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: for the love of the game. And that is basically 107 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: how every athlete starts playing for free. It's just enjoyable, 108 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: and if you're good at it, colleges start recruiting you. 109 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: You can go play Division one college sports. It's even 110 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: that much more enjoyable now in this modern time with 111 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: nil money starts immediately. But in my era, and honestly 112 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: previously to like three four years ago, it was just 113 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: like I'm really good at sports. I want to keep playing. 114 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: I enjoy this. So I think most athletes at the 115 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: professional level all have the same baseline. I started playing 116 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: because I was good at it, I enjoyed it, and 117 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: I love the game. Now, as you get older, like 118 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: in any business, you become jaded and elements of money 119 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: come in. But at your core, probably more than all 120 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: of us in all of our given jobs, where money 121 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: and revenue is a huge part of our daily vocabulary 122 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: in how we operate. It's not really like that in sports, 123 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: especially if you play professional baseball, professional basketball, or in 124 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: the NFL, because you're not worried about the revenue growth 125 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: it's flowing. So Dak Prescott who polarizing player for sure, 126 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: because he makes a ton of money and is in 127 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: line for another large contract, whether the Cowboys end up 128 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: extending him or whether they let him play this year 129 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: out and he hits free agency. We've just seen Kirk 130 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: Cousins get a lot of money. Dak would get more. 131 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: He's younger and he's healthy, assuming he doesn't get injured 132 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: this year, So the money's gonna be there no matter what. 133 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: And at this current time in twenty twenty four, Dak 134 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: Prescott has generational wealth. He's made hundreds of millions of dollars. 135 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: He's made one hundred and sixty million dollars on his 136 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: last contract alone and then being the Cowboys quarterback. Give 137 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: it how many commercials we've all seen him and I 138 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: can't even imagine how much he's made off the field. 139 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: So whether he played another snap in football ever, again, 140 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: money's never going to be an issue. So when Dak 141 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: Prescott said I don't play for the money, that is 142 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: not the reason I play football. I do at his 143 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: core believe him. Here's the problem, Like I don't believe 144 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning started playing football for money, like I just said, 145 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: idolized his dad, was good at it, became a star. 146 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: But by early on in his Colt's career, Tom Condon 147 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: representing him, they took every penny possible because money for 148 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: a player does equate to respect, right, And he's looking 149 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: at all these other players. Let's use Jared Goff as 150 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: an example. I want more money than that guy, but 151 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: that's not the reason these guys play. And I think 152 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: you go all over the NFL with guys making a 153 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: ton of money like did Nick Bosa and Christian McCaffrey 154 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: and Jason kelcey and Travis Kelcey and Patrick Mahomes and 155 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: Josh Allen list off all the Pro Bowl elite players 156 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: do they play football for money? Patrick Mahomes is a 157 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: good example, signed for four hundred and fifty dollars several 158 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: years ago, is making a boatload off the field, has 159 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: more money than he ever dreamed of having. Yet when 160 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: you watch him play, you go this is this guy 161 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: looks like he's playing for a contract. His effort, his 162 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: energy clearly, how hard he works, how serious he takes 163 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: his craft. So I think most good players in the NFL, 164 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: at their core don't play football necessarily for money. But 165 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: the way the businesses, the setup of player contracts, it 166 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: is based on respect. So most of these guys once 167 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: they get to their mid to late twenties and are 168 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: on their second contract, have an unlimited amount of money, 169 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: where especially at the high end guys where they never 170 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: think about it. They want this house, they could get it. 171 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: They want to take this vacation, they can do it. 172 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: Their family can do basically whatever they want. This private school, 173 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: we can do this, we can do that. But like 174 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to contract time, I want to be 175 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: paid more than this guy. It's really no different than 176 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: all of our jobs. If all this information was public, 177 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: if you knew the dude next to you at the 178 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: cubicle that you are better than at your job you 179 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: make more money for the company was making twenty five 180 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: percent more than you, you'd probably have an issue with it. 181 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: But if you don't know and you're highly compensated, and 182 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: business as well, you're fine. Part of the issue here 183 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: is everything's public. Everyone knows how much everyone makes, which 184 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: is not normal basically in every industry. Yet in football, 185 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: with the players, everyone knows to the penny what the 186 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: other guy is making, how much their bonus is, how 187 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: much their guaranteed money is, what their cash flow is, 188 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: what their actual contract is, word for word, line for line. 189 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: There was an article on The Athletic within the last 190 00:11:54,400 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: three or four months about the uphill battle assistant coach 191 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL have had to fight to learn what 192 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: other assistant coaches are making, and they have got together 193 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: doing this thing at the combine where they kind of 194 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: huddle up and tell each other their salaries so they 195 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: know when they're negotiating for themselves, because without it, you're 196 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: kind of flying blind. You're like, yeah, they're offering me 197 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: four hundred grand, it's incredible. Well, it's like the average 198 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: position coach with your level of tenure in the National 199 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: Football League who's having success makes six hundred and fifty grand. 200 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: So you are vastly underpaid relative to your job. But 201 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: if you don't know that, it might be a lot 202 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: of money to you, and the players don't have to 203 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: worry about that because they know exactly how much everyone makes, 204 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: so it gets complicated. Business is complicated, it's emotional, it's cutthroat, 205 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: and for most of us, right like, money matters because 206 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: you got to pay the bills, you got to feed 207 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: your children, like with inflation, most human beings. I mean, 208 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: the medium income in America is like sixty grand, sixty 209 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars, and depending on where you live, you 210 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: could make one hundred and fifty grand and it be 211 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: equivalent to that because you live in San Francisco, you 212 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: live in Los Angeles, you live in New York, you 213 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: live in some of these places that are very, very expensive. 214 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: I've always said this money's all relative. But in the NFL, 215 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: with the highest paid positions, when you're a Pro Bowl 216 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: level player, it's about ego because you don't necessarily need 217 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: the money to live. When you're talking about a third contract, 218 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: you've already made a ton of cash. But it is 219 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: about respect. So I saw a lot of takes flying 220 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: around that he's full of shit, he's dis ingenuous. How 221 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: do you believe him? I think Dak Prescott, like the 222 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: majority of good players in the NFL, play football one 223 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: because they're good at it too. They enjoy it. It's 224 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: fun to do what you're good at, especially in a 225 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: public forum where millions of people watch and everyone knows 226 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: your name. Even if when you have shitty games, everyone 227 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: has a negative take and a criticism toward you, it 228 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: still beats being a plumber. As Belichick said, But this 229 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: is all about ego, and this is all about respect 230 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: relative to his peers, right, And that's what I think 231 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: this comes down to, and why it makes it a 232 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: pretty complicated case. And when you're not an elite guy, 233 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: which Dak is not, which Cousins is not, and your 234 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: team is not winning big, they think twice. It's why 235 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: Minnesota ultimately let Cousins walk. It's why Dallas is kind 236 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: of in this predicament with Dak Prescott. You know, teams 237 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: that don't think twice, the Bills with Josh Allen, the 238 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: Chiefs with Mahomes, You're like, well, the Ravens did with Lamar. 239 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: Not really, they gave him like two hundred million dollars, 240 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: so it's like they ultimately cut the check and probably 241 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: a little more contentious than some of these other contracts. 242 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: But it was a you know, unique situation, especially after 243 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: he got injured that last year, and I bet they 244 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: do regret it playing it out the way they did, 245 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: because they probably could have got him a little cheaper 246 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: if they had done it earlier, but ultimately got done. 247 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson was never going anywhere else, and that's usually 248 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: the case with the high high end guys. Everyone else like, yeah, 249 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: do I really want to pay you fifty million dollars 250 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: when we can't win a playoff game and you don't 251 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: play well in those spots, Like it's a legitimate conversation. 252 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: But whether the Cowboys pay him or whether another team 253 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: pays him, he's gonna be a rich guy who gets 254 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: even richer. Mike Zimmer had a comment today and the 255 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: headline was clipped by a lot of people because he said, 256 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: we've got to do it the way I want it 257 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: done in terms of the way they run the defense, 258 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: and everyone's like this old curmudgeon, ego maniac Mike Zimmer. 259 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: When you hire a veteran coordinator offensive or defensive, you 260 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: can't expect them if they're inheriting a really good unit 261 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: on offense or defense, to do when they run a 262 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: different scheme and have for a long time to do 263 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: what the previous coordinator did that is a recipe for failure. 264 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer is not dan Quinn, and Mike Zimmer also admitted, 265 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: usually when I've been hired in the past, it's an 266 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: awful unit. It's bad, so I get to basically start 267 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: from scratch. That's not the case here. This unit for 268 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: years now has been very successful, minus the playoff game, 269 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: which was pretty ugly. But I'm not dan Quinn. I 270 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: don't run his defense, and I'm not going to try to. 271 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: It's not what I was hired to do. I was hired, 272 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: as Mike Zimmer to run this unit. Now. Obviously, if 273 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: there are similarities in some of the concepts that were 274 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: successful for Dallas, he would be a bad coach to 275 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: not continue running some of those things. But you can't 276 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: expect a new coordinator to do what the old coordinator 277 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: did when they don't have the same football philosophical beliefs 278 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to defense. So the moment dan Quinn left, 279 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: unless you were going to hire another Pete Carroll disciple, 280 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: the defense was gonna look different schematically. It doesn't mean 281 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna take a step back in terms of their production, 282 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be the same, and the players 283 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: are gonna have to learn new terminology, new ideas, new uh, 284 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, responsibilities. Welcome to football. Now. Is it gonna work? 285 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: It's obviously not an easy transition. But here's what I'd say. 286 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: Mike Zammer's good, just like Vic Fangio's good. I've seen 287 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: it for a long time. When when you see good 288 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: older coaches, you go, this can work. Now. It's also 289 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: incumbent on them to adapt as football adapts, and change 290 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: philosophies that might have worked in twenty sixteen or seventeen 291 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: or eighteen that no longer are as applicable as they 292 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: are in twenty twenty four. So it's on them to 293 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: change and make adjustments. But when you hire new coordinators, 294 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: you hire them to run their stuff. I just saw 295 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: it with San Francisco. They hired Steve Wilkes, who was 296 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: not a Pete Carroll disciple, who did not come up 297 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: running this defense, and essentially said, hey, you know what 298 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: Robert sol and Dmiico Ryans did, can you kind of 299 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: do that? And of course he wanted a job. He 300 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: said yeah, I'll do it, and it didn't work, and 301 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: then he got shit canned after the Super Bowl. So 302 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: like you, if you're going to hire a guy, you 303 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: have to trust him to run their stuff. And I 304 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: think that's a good philosophy to life. If you're willing 305 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: to hire in football, if you're hiring coordinator, you're paying 306 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: him seven figures. So in any industry, if you're willing 307 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: to pay a guy one million, two million, three million, whatever, 308 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: you'd better be willing to not micro manage them. And 309 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: there's a reason you hired the guy. If you have 310 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: any hesitation or question marks once he's there, you've obviously 311 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: hired the wrong guy. And I like the Mike zimmer Hire. 312 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: I watched him for years with the Bengals and then 313 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: obviously with the Vikings. He's a good defensive coach. Is 314 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: he great working with quarterbacks? And is he a sensitive guy? No? 315 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: When all he has to worry about is the defense, 316 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: I'd feel pretty confident. Something I thought was pretty stupid. 317 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: The NFL calendar has been pretty similar for a long 318 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: time now, right, if you're a player and your season 319 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: ends if you miss the playoffs. So now at the 320 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: seventeenth game, it's let's just pick January fifth is the 321 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: last game of the season. You then have a break 322 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: from Jai January fifth till your offseason starts somewhere early 323 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: to mid April, so that is January, February March, and 324 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: then a week or two in April. That's like a 325 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: three month plus break and then OTAs in twenty twenty four. 326 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: I got news for you. But relative to the sport 327 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: of football, are kind of a country club. There are 328 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: no pads, there are practices three days a week, and 329 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: you basically just work out, which you would do anyway, 330 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: And a lot of these guys have bonuses in their contracts, 331 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: so you get a three month break. You can go 332 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: to anywhere in the country if you want to leave, 333 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: you know where you live. For your team, go home. 334 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: If you play in California, you go to Florida, you 335 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: go to Texas, you go wherever, and then you come 336 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: back for like two months to work out and train. 337 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: And if you're a veteran player, you don't even really 338 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: need to practice. A lot of veterans out the league 339 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: just kind of stand on the sideline, especially if you're 340 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: recovering from an injury or whatever, and get paid to 341 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: do so. Play golf in the afternoons, go to games, 342 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: go to dinners. It's really a pretty chill environment till 343 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: about the middle of June, when you get about a 344 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: forty day break till training camp. The NFLPA, which I saw, 345 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: Florio wrote that did they even talk to the players 346 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: about this? Want to change this whole calendar, So basically, 347 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: after the draft there would be no OTAs or whatever, 348 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: and it would start either late June or early July, 349 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: a month ramp up period to training camp. If I 350 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: was one, the coaches and the executives and the gms 351 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: and scouts would hate this fucking idea. I know that 352 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: for a fact. But if I was a player, I 353 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: would hate this idea as well, because one, it's voluntary 354 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: in OTA, so if I'm a veteran player, I don't 355 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: have to show up beside the one mandatory mini camp. 356 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: There's a big V in front of every practice except 357 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: one week. And again it's not even a week, it's 358 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: three days, where a lot of teams don't even practice 359 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: all three days. They cut out the third day and 360 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: let them all go for summer break. But would I 361 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: rather have a three month break and then another month 362 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: break or just like a five month break and then 363 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: I got to come back in late June or early 364 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: July for the rest of the year, because once training 365 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: camp starts, you never leave. You are there for the year. 366 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: And one thing they mentioned is the ramp up period 367 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: for younger players. Well, if I'm a younger player, let's 368 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: just say I'm not a first round pick, so I'm 369 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: not on scholarship. I'm a fourth or a fifth round guy. 370 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: So if I don't perform in training camp, I can 371 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: be cut. Ideally I go to the practice squad, but 372 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: still I don't get a regular season salary that period. 373 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: The moment the draft ends, and starting in rookie mini camp, 374 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: I get all the information from the playbook, which I'm 375 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: going to have to know by when training camp starts. 376 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: So then I get several weeks to be with my 377 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: coaches on the field and in the meeting rooms. Again 378 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: not that hard country club environment. And most coaches now 379 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: and I've watched a ton of these press conferences, go listen, 380 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: these guys have been traveling all over the place. I 381 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: know they're out of shape. We are not looking to 382 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: break any records here in practice. Practice has never been 383 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: easier in the history of the NFL. In the middle 384 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: of May, I'll promise you that, but I get to 385 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: mentally take in all the information. Then I get a 386 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: month break plus where I get to hammer that home. 387 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: So when training camp starts, one I'm fresh, and two 388 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: mentally now I've had about two and a half months 389 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,959 Speaker 1: to have a pretty good feel for what these coaches 390 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: are gonna want me to do. I can't imagine any 391 00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,120 Speaker 1: veteran player wanting any part of this new idea. And two, 392 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: the rookies don't even know what. They don't even know. 393 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: I actually think it behooves them and is advantageous for 394 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: their careers to set up now because mentally physically, whatever 395 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 1: you look good or you look bad in these OTAs, 396 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: no one really cares. You're judged in football at the 397 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: moment the pads come on, and we know, for the 398 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: most part, give or take, August first is when the 399 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: pads come on. But I better for me to look 400 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: good with the pads come on, I'd better know what 401 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm doing, cause if I don't know what I'm doing, 402 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: where I'm going, what the coach is gonna want me 403 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: to do the pace in which we practice, I have 404 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: no chance. So just a couple week ramp up period 405 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: before training camp starts, not everyone learns the same some 406 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: people could be overwhelmed. You feel natural pressure. This allows you, 407 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: gives you a month or so around some veteran guys 408 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: around the coaches get a little bit of your feet wet. See, 409 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: like I'm putting it on an NFL jersey, I'm putting 410 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: on an NFL helmet. And then I get a month 411 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: to kind of decompress, and then I come back with 412 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: a mental ed. Which it's why coaches are so hard 413 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: on people in training camp. Like we've gone over this 414 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: stuff before. Obviously there's leeway you're a young player. But 415 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: this idea is moronic. It is dumb, and it's obviously 416 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: run by people who have no clue how anything works. 417 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: I've said forever the league office doesn't give a shit 418 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: one They're run by business people. They're not run by 419 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: former execs. They're not run by former coaches. For the 420 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: most part, they're not run by former players. All they 421 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: care about is to get the most money possible, which 422 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: is smart, Like that's their job and they do a 423 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: great job at it. But now the NFLPA feels like 424 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: they're run by people that have no clue about anything. 425 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: And when your job is to represent the players, I 426 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: can't imagine if we pulled one hundred players with multiple 427 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: years experience they would think this is a good idea 428 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: or would be on board for this. So to me, 429 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: this feels likeda There was a story that came out 430 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: the USC Trojans open up against LSU in Vegas at 431 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: Mark Davis not a father his allegiance stadium. It's gonna 432 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: be a sweet game Week one Trojans against the Tigers. 433 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: I think it's four point thirty kicks. It's probably one 434 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: of the marquee games of the weekend. And a story 435 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: came out that for two years Lincoln Riley has been 436 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: trying to get out of this game. And in that story, 437 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: there was a nugget about Brian Kelly and Lincoln Riley 438 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: are both represented by one of the big coaching agents, 439 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: Trace Armstrong, who's a former player in the NFL, represents 440 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: a ton of high end coaches in the NFL in 441 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: college and had him broker a conversation between the two 442 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: guys to try to convince Brian Kelly to basically cancel 443 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: this game and let them play other opponents. Obviously USC 444 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: wants an easier opponent. Brian Kelly said, no, there's no 445 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: way around it. This is an embarrassing story to get 446 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: out for USC. I played golf the other day with 447 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: a guy that came in on Reggie Bush's recruiting class 448 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: and was on that for five years, was on those 449 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: Sweet Trojan teams. I mean he's listening off all the players. 450 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: It was incredible the talent that was on those teams. 451 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: And part of hiring Lincoln Riley to USC was to 452 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: get the Trojans back to the glory years, to have 453 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: them be competing for national championships, to have them be 454 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: a top five program every single year in the country. 455 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: When you are that, you are not scared of anybody. 456 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: You will play anybody, anytime, anywhere. And in twenty twenty four, 457 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: you don't need to be one of the four best teams. 458 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: You just have to be one of the twelve. So 459 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: USC paid Lincoln Riley one hundred and twenty plus million 460 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: dollars when you factor in giving him a free house, 461 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: when you factor in buying his mansion in Oklahoma, it's 462 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: probably well above that. The moment they did that, they 463 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: expected to kick ass and take names, to dominate. And 464 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: now two years later a story comes out that he's 465 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: begging to get out of this game. If I was 466 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: a Trojan fan, I'd be fucking embarrassed. Brian Kelly, who 467 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: is gonna be under some pressure this year year three, 468 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: like Lincoln Riley to win the national championship, Like just 469 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: making the playoffs will not be good enough. And he's like, yeah, 470 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: I want no part out of this game. We're playing 471 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: you and this is not a home and this is 472 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: this is a neutral site. So if anything, USC, which 473 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: in theory, should dominate recruiting on the West Coast, this 474 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: should be an incredible recruiting tool. But it feels like 475 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: he's scared. Now do I think they're gonna win this game? 476 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: I do not. Do I understand where it's like I 477 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: don't want to play a game I'm just gonna lose. 478 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: I would somewhat get it if it was year one, 479 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: like let us get our feet under us. This is 480 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: going on year three, Like by year three in this 481 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: transfer portal world, a school with unlimited nil budget, you 482 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: should be like, fuck, we'll play anybody. I look at 483 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: USC and I told the guy was playing with I'm 484 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: like I told coward this year, I don't think it's 485 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: gonna work. And listen, like most people I was like 486 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: incredible higher and then after watching it kind of Maronite 487 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: marinate and just watching his team play. Lincoln Riley is 488 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: a small town Texas guy who is infatuated with offense, 489 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: knows nothing about defense. And it's shown because last year 490 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: their defense was, I mean, look like a high school 491 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: JV team. It was a joke and in Pete's heyday. 492 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: Just like all the good teams over the last i 493 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: would say fifteen years, dominate on defense. All Saban's teams, 494 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: Kirby's teams, Harbaughs teams, some of the high end Urban Meyer, 495 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: Ohio State teams, Urban Myers, Florida teams. It's a point 496 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: of difference at the highest end of college football. It's 497 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: a downfall. Last year of LSU, a program that usually 498 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: is great on defense, they were terrible. They had an 499 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: elite offense and a below average defense and that's why 500 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: they won, went nine to three. So you look at 501 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, you go, is he a little over his 502 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: head because at Oklahoma, like especially in the Big Twelve, 503 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: he was gonna win ten games a year, and it 504 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: felt like he ran away a little bit because of 505 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: them going into the SEC. Now we could argue Oklahoma's 506 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: gonna struggle a little bit in the SEC. Okay, you 507 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: go to USC, you should have more bullets in the 508 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: gun to show up with an SEC team and look 509 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: the same on the field. Your roster should be every 510 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: bit as good as LSU, Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State and Michigan. 511 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: There's no fucking excuse. And I if you had to say, 512 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,719 Speaker 1: what's your guests on USC's wins this year, Well, they 513 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: went seven and five last year with Caleb freaking Williams, 514 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: so they're gonna go ten to two this year. I mean, 515 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: to me, at best, they feel like an eight and 516 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: four team. And I'm telling you this heat is gonna 517 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: come fast, because if Brian Kelly kicks his ass, then 518 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: he gets Utah State the following week, and then he 519 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: has a bye, and then he goes to Michigan, then 520 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: he plays Wisconsin, then he plays at Minnesota, and then 521 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: he gets Penn State. If all of a sudden, we're 522 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: looking up and we're looking at a three and three 523 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: team or a four and three team, people are gonna 524 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: start to wonder, because when you pay a premium, you 525 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: want results. What are college football coaches talking about all 526 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: over the country? Now that we pay these guys all 527 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: this money, the nil the collectives, we expect you to perform, 528 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: and if you don't, we got a problem. It's become 529 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: very transactional. Well, football coaching's always been that way. We 530 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: pay you to win games. If you lose games, we 531 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: got an issue. When we pay you an unlimited amount 532 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: of money, like the super high end guys, the pressure 533 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: is ramped up. I'm not a huge Ryan Day guy, 534 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: but look at him. This offseason. They doubled down on defense. 535 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: They started cutting huge checks to get elite dudes on 536 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: that side of the ball. And I watched Lincoln Riley. 537 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: I go, I don't even think he understands. I don't 538 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: think he knows. And if you just had a scrimmage 539 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: by year three of Pete Carroll against Lincoln Riley, they 540 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: would have injured them. It wouldn't be fair. And I 541 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: think this is a disaster. There's no other way around this. 542 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: And if you're looking at an eight and fourteen with 543 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: the USC Trojans and you just paid all this money 544 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: for Lincoln Riley, I don't think we're that far away 545 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: from talking about this is just not gonna work out. 546 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: It really isn't and obviously they were at a very 547 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: low point when they hired Lincoln. But once you get 548 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: several years removed from that, like, hey, we're at USC, 549 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: like can we make a run in the playoffs? Or 550 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: do we have no shot on God's Green Earth? And 551 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: now that you're in the Big Ten, even with the 552 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: twelve team playoff, like there's no guarantee they're getting an invite. 553 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: Like they're not better in Michigan, They're not better in 554 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 1: Ohio State. I mean, Penn State's offense is so terrible, 555 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: but their defense is elite. Oregon's way better. Like where 556 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: are they making the playoffs? What an embar? I mean 557 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: to come out at USC and want out of a game, 558 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: I'd understand. It's like, hey, we don't want to play 559 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: the Kansasite Chiefs. Okay, I get it. There shouldn't be 560 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: a team in the country that, if they're on your schedule, 561 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: you don't want to play. If you're an elite program, 562 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: what times the game we'll be there. A couple other 563 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: NFL stories, some wide receivers got contract extensions. Nico Collins, 564 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: who by the end of the season with the Texans 565 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: look like a monster. I mean, now, obviously he had 566 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: a career year. He had eighty catches, he had over 567 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: a thousand yards, and you just watched him, You're like, God, 568 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: this guy's massive. He's making plays, he can run. He 569 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: got fifty two million dollar contract extension guaranteed. I think 570 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: it was seventy five million dollars three year extension, so 571 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: average out twenty five million dollars a year. But when 572 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: it's not all guaranteed, that that number is hollow. But 573 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: he got a lot of money for a guy with 574 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: one season. And I would imagine if you're the Texans, 575 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: you feel pretty good about this because you kind of 576 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 1: get to buy low. And if he keeps banging this out, 577 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: that fifty million dollars probably is more like eighty or 578 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: ninety million dollars when it comes to guaranteed money. So 579 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: I listen. I'd be lying if I said I had 580 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: been watching Nico Collins for years. I didn't know much 581 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: about him till last season, but he was hard not 582 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: to watch and go, that's not a high end wide receiver. 583 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm not talking Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase, but he 584 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: sure looks like he could be a top ten guy 585 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And if you can get a top 586 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: ten guy in the NFL, or even a top fifteen 587 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 1: guy for fifty million dollars guaranteed feels like a steal. 588 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: The forty nine ers love seventh round draft picks as 589 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: much as anybody, and they've had a lot of success. 590 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: And Juwan Jennings, who is probably one of the better 591 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: role players in the NFL incredible story, went to Tennessee 592 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: as a quarterback, immediately moved to wide receiver, went through 593 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: like three different coaches when he was there, falls to 594 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: the seventh round, and has really established himself as a 595 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: very very solid player. Was holding out because the forty 596 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: nine ers had tendered him at a little under five 597 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: million dollars. He wanted more money. They gave him a 598 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: two year, fifteen million dollar contract extension and guaranteed him 599 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: over ten million dollars. So forty nine ers sign a 600 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: seventh rounder this year, They'll sign a seventh rounder next year. 601 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: Maybe they should just skip all the rounds to go 602 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: right to the seventh round. I like Juwan Jennings a lot. 603 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: This type money is NFL standards nothing, and you can 604 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: do this type stuff when your quarterback makes a million 605 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: dollars and this won't last forever last, but not at least. 606 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: I saw Robert Sala had an interesting quote because they 607 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: signed Tarik Cohen, the former Bears kind of scat back, 608 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: and he said, listen, the kickoff or turner this upcoming year. 609 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: We envisioned that guy having one hundred touches. And at 610 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: first I saw that, I was like, that doesn't make 611 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: any sense. And then if you just went on average, 612 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: there'd be some games when you only get three. There 613 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: might be some when you get six or seven. Right 614 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,720 Speaker 1: if you if you just did let's just average five, well, 615 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: five times ten is fifty and five times seven is 616 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: thirty five. That's eighty five. And if you factored in 617 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: I guess if he did punts two, it would easily 618 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: get to one hundred, but maybe more. Maybe it won't 619 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: be quite a hundred, but you're talking seventy five to 620 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: ninety ish touches minimum for a kickoff returner. That is 621 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: a new powerful position. Once upon a time, it wasn't 622 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: that long ago. When I was in the NFL, the 623 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: nickel corner was kind of a throw in. It's like, yeah, 624 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: we got a solid nickel corner, but not a lot 625 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: of teams went to like three wide receiver sets that 626 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: consistently in a game. Now, if you don't feel good 627 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: about your nickel corner, you're done. You're gonna get smoked 628 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: every single week because the offensive coordinator in the quarterback 629 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 1: will attack that guy till till the sun goes down. 630 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 1: So this position, I've been saying it for a while 631 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: and I saw justin Fields kind of poo pooed said 632 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: it was a joke in a meeting. But I think 633 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: the point in that special teams meeting is like, this 634 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: is a big position now, and we're gonna be able 635 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: to make explosive plays because, like I've said, we'll see 636 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: how do teams send a couple guys back as like 637 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: safety nets. There's gonna be a lot of experimentation early 638 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: on in the preseason, even early on in the season, 639 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: but we're gonna get a lot of touchdowns. I truly 640 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: believe that, because if you make a guy miss or 641 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: break a tackle, you were out the gate. To score 642 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: a kickoff return in the old setup one you needed 643 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: like sweet blocking right up front. You probably had to 644 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: make a guy miss and break a tackle and then 645 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: outrun another guy. You Really there's a chance if a 646 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: certain angle in a game, you might just have to 647 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: make juke ot one guy, or if your two guys 648 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: get a block, you're out the gates and it's on 649 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: and the kicker's got no shot in the open field none. 650 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: So doing the math, one hundred touches could be high. 651 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: I guess it would depend on the team. But you're 652 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 1: gonna touch the ball a lot, and you're gonna have 653 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: a chance to change field position all the time. I 654 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: mean all the time. So the more and more. And 655 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: I've seen some other Special Teams coaches that have been 656 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: talking during the preseason or during the OTAs like we're excited. 657 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: This is gonna be fun at first, Like most people 658 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: anytime there's anytime there is a major change in anything 659 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: we do, I'm I'm a big creature habit. I would 660 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: imagine many people listening a pretty big creature to habit. 661 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: When a curveball comes in, it can throw you off, 662 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: and if something changes in your business, you're like, Okay, 663 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: I gotta adapt, And at first it can be kind 664 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: of overwhelming, and then once you get a feel for it, 665 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: you're like, I kind of like this more and one 666 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: from a fan standpoint, I think it's gonna be awesome 667 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: as a viewer. I think countless plays are gonna happen. 668 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: We're sitting on our couch on Sundays, and from a 669 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: football standpoint, I think teams that get the most aggressive 670 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: with the player back there. I've been saying for a 671 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,479 Speaker 1: while some of these teams like Tyreek Hill is gonna 672 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: have some touches, Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley, like you could 673 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: do a lot of shit. I'm not saying every single time, 674 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: but like ty game, fourth quarter, throw back your horse. 675 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, Saquon Barkley's taking one seventy 676 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: yards in a TI game against the Cowboys, You're like, 677 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 1: that was incredible. So get ready because I think we're 678 00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: gonna have fireworks at that play. Kay, Let's do a 679 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 1: little Middlecoff mailbag at John Middlecoff Instagram, DMS wide open, 680 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: fire in them, get a question answered here a little 681 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:23,919 Speaker 1: thing called the podcast from Derek. I'm a diehard Ducks fan, 682 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,919 Speaker 1: which is translated into me being a Chargers fan. Once 683 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: they picked Herbert, let's take a look at the coaches 684 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: Herbert has had since his freshman year at Oregon sixteen. 685 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: Helfridge seventeen, Willie Tagger eighteen and nineteen, Crystal Ball twenty 686 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: one through twenty three, Brandon Staley twenty Anthony I skipped 687 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn. You could make an argument that Helfridge is 688 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: the best coach on this list. Has there ever been 689 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: a quarterback to have this much success despite having awful 690 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: coaches every single year in his career. That's pretty wild. 691 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: I mean, that is a terrible list. Think about this, 692 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: Mario great recruiter, averages the day as long as a coach. 693 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 1: I mean, Taggert's a disaster. Brandon Staley pretty well documented. 694 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: If Brandon Staley is your head coach, I mean, that's 695 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: not great. Listen, the defense of Justin Herbert and a 696 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: lot of people push back overrated. He's not that good. 697 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: We're about to find out, because I'll promise you this 698 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: in a couple of years, he ain't gonna be saying 699 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: that you put him with Jim Harball. Maybe all those 700 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: guys had to happen so he could leak up with 701 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh. Because think about the best quarterbacks in the league. Mahomes, 702 00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: Andy Reid, Hall of Famer, Lamar Jackson, John Harball Hall 703 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: of Famer, Josh Allen people are Sean m I don't know. 704 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott wins eleven twelve games every single year. I'd 705 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: say Sean mcdermot's pretty good. I mean, I think he's 706 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: pretty good. I wouldn't put him on John Harbaugh Randy's level, 707 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: but he's clearly a high end coach in the NFL. 708 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford now Sean McVay kicking ass, taking names, So 709 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 1: like who your coach is, it's hard to overcome look 710 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,919 Speaker 1: at Matt Stafford all those years with Alliance, a lot 711 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: of losing. Man, this is not basketball where it's like, yeah, 712 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: I got I got Lebron, I got Stephan his prime, 713 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: I got Whoever. I'm gonna be competitive. If your head 714 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: coach is not good in the sport of football, in 715 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: Power five or in the NFL, good luck, it's probably 716 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: not gonna go. Well. Wish I got this in there 717 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: for the mail bag, but you touched on it and 718 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: there so I wanted to ask anyhow you mentioned a 719 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 1: little bit about working for Howie, mentioned you had worked 720 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: a sort of personal assistant for them. It was a 721 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: lot of work. Could you do some time on what 722 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: those front office jobs entail? What was that personal assistant job. 723 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: Were you writing up spreadsheets for Howie film research? For example, 724 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,280 Speaker 1: you joked about how you're not sitting around now waiting 725 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: for the summer and campus start. Well, what are they 726 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 1: doing right now? What's the type of content context that's 727 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: not out there? I know me and my buddies will 728 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: love well. During this period of time. During OTAs, you're 729 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: kind of just learning the job, right, They're teaching you 730 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: what to look for. You're kind of learning the league. 731 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: You're watching some film. But you're also like, you cut 732 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: guys during OTAs, so it's usually your job to go 733 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: grab them. Uh you know you you bring in a 734 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: lot of guys for workouts, undrafted free agents, So who 735 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: picks them up in a van? Me during training camp 736 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: and during the season. And one thing, and I would 737 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: imagine this doesn't happen now with technology and artificial intelligence 738 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 1: and just everything, we had to manually input injuries. So 739 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: I would go on Rotal World during training camp, in 740 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: the season, and in a guy's basically in a profile 741 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: for a player. So let's just pick a guy up 742 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 1: CD Lamb. Let's say, Ceedee Lamb hurts his hamstring in 743 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: training camp and he's out for two weeks you would 744 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: manually write hamstring injury. It sounds archaic now, but that's 745 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: that's something There was a a very serious part of 746 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: the job inputting injuries, and then when guys were cut 747 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: or whatever during the year and during training camp, you 748 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: would have that the draft room with every team and 749 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: their roster on magnets. It would be your job to 750 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: take the magnet on, take the magnet off. When a 751 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: guy got on injured reserve, you would put him on 752 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: injury reserve, and whoever they signed or elevated from practice 753 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: squad you would add that. So a lot of magnets, 754 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: a lot of injury inputting, a lot of picking guys 755 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: up from the airport when you'd sign a player, take 756 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,760 Speaker 1: them to the doctor, take him around all the people 757 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: he had to see with the team. You would have 758 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 1: jobs to watch film as well, and you would just 759 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: try to figure that out throughout the time. You would 760 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: help with advance reports, so during the season, when Lewis 761 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 1: Riddick or the pro scouts were doing the advance report, 762 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 1: you would do tasks for them, whether it was drawing stuff, 763 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,439 Speaker 1: you know, all sorts of random shit. You would help 764 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: coaches out whatever they needed any little project might get 765 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: thrown on your desk. Trying to think it's been a 766 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: long time. A lot of airport runs you make. On 767 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: a given week, you could do several airport runs. And 768 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: obviously during training camp your job was to get the 769 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: guys for cutting them, which sucked, but you had to 770 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 1: do it right. And at the time playbook information, coach 771 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: want to see you. I mean, that's it's it's a 772 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: shitty job. And then obviously during the off season it changes. 773 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: They send you the start sending you out to some 774 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: pro days. You just you're constantly holding lists and just 775 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 1: doing whatever they need. So I'm trying to think of 776 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 1: some other tasks. I helped the special teams coach a 777 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 1: lot identify guys, and it's a lot of pretty low 778 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 1: level tasks. But you better not fuck up because if 779 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: you do, you're gonna yelled at by a lot of 780 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: different people. So one thing I used to do, and 781 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: this is so twenty ten, everyone has a phone now 782 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 1: with the weather, you'd print out the weather all week long, 783 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 1: Monday through Friday and drop it off on the coach's desks. 784 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: So if you're playing at Chicago or Green Bay or 785 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, at Tampa, like how hot's it gonna be? 786 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: How cold is it going to be? Is it going 787 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 1: to rain? So I would do that every week, the 788 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: the daily Wire, when guys are cut, when guys you 789 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: know whatever, it's kind of your job to make sure 790 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: that's distributed. You watch a lot of practice squad guys, 791 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: so you're constantly writing reports on that. They give you 792 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: a couple of teams, so you might get two or 793 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: three teams during the year, and you basically have to 794 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: write up every guy on that team. And then you're 795 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 1: also focused on free agents, on restricted free agents, having 796 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 1: updated reports. You help the college scouts out sometimes do 797 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 1: random stuff. You just any anything that needs to get done, 798 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: you know, go pick up food. You know, like we're 799 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: working on Saturday, go pick up a bunch of sandwiches. 800 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of tasks that Moose people do 801 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 1: when they're the lowest guy in the totem pole question 802 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: for the pod, which five teams do you think that 803 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 1: are set up for the most sustainable success for the 804 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 1: next five to ten years? Why? I think you just 805 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 1: look at coaching quarterback, So you go Andy Reid sixty six, 806 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 1: he's got five more years left in him Patrick mahomes 807 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 1: is twenty seven to twenty eight. They got to be 808 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: the number one draft pick. Jim Harbaugh Justin Herbert, I 809 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: think you're betting on that. Demiko Ryan CJ. Stroud, I 810 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 1: think you're betting on that. To me, it's just combination 811 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: coach quarterback, you know, perty can he be a superstar 812 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,280 Speaker 1: if he becomes like the next version of Drew Brees, 813 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: like the Niners ain't going away. The Rams are a 814 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,800 Speaker 1: good example. Like coach quarterback awesome right now. But Stafford's 815 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 1: thirty five with a lot of wear and tear on 816 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: US tires, you know, so he's got to go around 817 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 1: the league coach quarterback. If you got the coach, you 818 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 1: got the quarterback. I really think it's that simple. It's 819 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: really what the league boils down to. It's like who's 820 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: good in the NBA, Well do you have a top 821 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 1: five to six player, because if you do, you got 822 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: a chance. In football, it's like, well, do you have 823 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 1: a top quarterback and a top coach, then you got 824 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: a shot. Because the contracts and stuff, things change so fast. 825 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: Guys get injured. It's hard to look at the totality 826 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 1: of a roster. But I would say the things that 827 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 1: have sustained, like a lot of turnover in Buffalo. Betting 828 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: on Josh Allen being good. Lamar Jackson like he's kind 829 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: of been good now for five plus years. John Harbaugh 830 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 1: has been pretty consistent for a while. It's like I 831 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: would imagine the Ravens ain't going away. Longtime listener, first 832 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: time direct messenger, love the pot. I'm a displaced Western 833 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,720 Speaker 1: PA Steelers fan that now lives in Philly. You've alluded 834 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 1: to the transition from Kevin Colbert and Con a few times. 835 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 1: Con brings his salary cap expertise to the GM role. 836 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin is definitely a head coach with input to 837 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,879 Speaker 1: the ingredients that he cooks with. Also on the management team, 838 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: Andy Wilde, I don't think your past crossed in Philly. 839 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 1: They did not. What are your thoughts on the influence 840 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 1: of Widel and his team building approach with his ties 841 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: to the Eagles. I think sometimes these cap guys and 842 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: these number guys like to have like a scout scout 843 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 1: as their right hand guy. And I can't tell you 844 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 1: like Andy Widel's right ups, but longtime right hand man 845 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 1: to Joe Douglas. He works for the Ravens for a 846 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,720 Speaker 1: long time. He's a football guy, like he likes to scout. 847 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 1: The dude in Minnesota, QUESSI who's his right hand man, 848 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: Grigson a scout. So you know how much they lean 849 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 1: on those guys with the draft. It probably changes from 850 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,879 Speaker 1: place to place, but I think it's pretty consistent when 851 00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,320 Speaker 1: you get you know, Chris Ballard at his chorus is 852 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: a scout, right, some of these got less snat is 853 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 1: a scout. So they are more dependent on the money 854 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 1: analytic guys. Right, So you get these analytical guys or 855 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,280 Speaker 1: the contract guys, they need someone with a large scouting 856 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: background that can help them run the department. They can 857 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: run the pro side, the college side, they can kind 858 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: of oversee everything because really, when you're the GM, you're 859 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 1: not just watching tape all day. I would imagine that's 860 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: kind of a small part of the job. On a 861 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 1: given day, you might not even be able to watch 862 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: that much. I mean, you're dealing with everything from cafeteria 863 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: to the training room to the equipment staff, dealing with 864 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 1: your coach, dealing with the owner, dealing with agent that 865 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: your players issues through agents. Right, You're not just sitting 866 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: there like ranking players twenty four to seven three sixty five. 867 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 1: I would imagine most general managers would say it's a 868 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,959 Speaker 1: small percentage of my job now that in the off 869 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: season during the draft you have to but during the 870 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 1: year probably less and less than ever before. So I 871 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: don't know. I've met wild Andy Widell one time, but 872 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 1: I can't pretend to have a good feel for him 873 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 1: as a scout or anything. I know it didn't end 874 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 1: up great in Philly. Grew up in Scottsdale my whole life. 875 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 1: Glad to hear you are enjoying it. I'm a graduate 876 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 1: from LSU, and as a reward, I'm going to LSU 877 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 1: versus USC opener in Vegas. Use the game time code, John, 878 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,879 Speaker 1: I like the skyl ready. I was never a big 879 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: college football fan before LSU, but this place makes you 880 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 1: a fan. When you Colin Klatt talk about the explosion 881 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: of college football, the only pushback I give is in 882 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: an area like Arizona, where even with a decent team 883 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,879 Speaker 1: here and there, it's no SEC fandom. Do you think 884 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: the conference realignment can grow the game in places like 885 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,280 Speaker 1: Arizona and calif Those marcus always going to be more 886 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: pro focused. Yeah, Cali, Like when USC is good. They're 887 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: a really big deal in southern California. Stanford was a 888 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 1: top five program and they got ten thousand people showing up. 889 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 1: So the Bay area is just going to be overrun 890 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: by the forty nine ers, but southern California. USC can 891 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:27,399 Speaker 1: make a dent. Ucla probably not as much, but USC can. 892 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 1: Living in Scottsdale now for years, I would say Arizona 893 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 1: State might as well just play like Fresno State in 894 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,280 Speaker 1: Boise State. It's never gonna be a big football program ever, 895 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: no matter how cool this place is to live, no 896 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,760 Speaker 1: matter how many babes there are in theory, it should 897 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,879 Speaker 1: be a great place to recruit, it just never will. 898 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 1: It's it's a bottom tier athletic program. It's a baseball 899 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,319 Speaker 1: and golf school. So I think Arizona State has zero 900 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 1: opportunities to ever be a big deal here. None. I 901 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 1: don't believe it's possible, and I believe they'll go to 902 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:11,839 Speaker 1: the Big twelve and get worked and listen. I think 903 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 1: Arizona State should basically be San Diego State, same level, 904 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,799 Speaker 1: you know, try to win eight to nine games and 905 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 1: play those type opponents. I don't believe they should be 906 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 1: playing Kansas State and Oklahoma State, like it's not gonna work. 907 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 1: Maybe once upon a time it could have, but in 908 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 1: present day setup, like, I don't believe they have any chance. Arizona, 909 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 1: like Tucson two hours away, much smaller city. They take 910 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 1: basketball there very very seriously. You are what you take seriously. 911 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,919 Speaker 1: At Arizona State, they take men's golf seriously. They get 912 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,399 Speaker 1: pros every year. They take baseball really seriously. They get 913 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of high end guys. Maybe the program's dipped 914 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,799 Speaker 1: a little lately, but like their emphasis is not in 915 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 1: basketball or football. We're at usc that they pump a 916 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: lot of money in the foot right. At Oregon they 917 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: take sports and football very very seriously. I just don't 918 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,839 Speaker 1: see it ever being possible. I actually think it's kind 919 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 1: of a bad It's just not a great sports town. 920 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,359 Speaker 1: I just don't think that many people care. I think 921 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 1: people like sports, but they're just does anyone care about 922 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks? I mean the Cardinals. You see a lot 923 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 1: of like flags, but it's like this is a Niner 924 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,439 Speaker 1: home game once a year. 925 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 2: So I. 926 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 1: Don't know. I just don't think it's a great sports area, 927 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 1: not great history probably. I mean, there are a lot 928 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 1: of factors, a lot of a lot of you know, 929 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 1: people from out of town. It's kind of a a 930 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 1: lot of older people that retire here from colder states. 931 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 1: I can't tell you. Every time I play golf, it's like, 932 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,800 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm a big Minnesota Viking fan, diehard Chicago 933 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 1: Bears guy, moved here to get out of the cold. 934 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,840 Speaker 1: I love my Packers. Football's huge. I never meet anyone 935 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 1: in Arizona that or play golf with anyone that's not 936 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: a big football fan, but they usually like teams from 937 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 1: other places. I go once a year to watch the 938 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 1: Wisconsin Badgers. Meet a lot of people in from the Midwest. 939 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,840 Speaker 1: What was with all the dudes at the draft wearing 940 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: sunglasses inside at night? Is there something to that. I've 941 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,799 Speaker 1: never understood sunglasses at night ever. Now, granted, I need 942 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 1: to go to the optometrists. I think my eyes are slipping. 943 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,919 Speaker 1: My dad wore glasses. I've always thought I had pretty 944 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 1: good eyesight until I got my driver's license last year, 945 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 1: that my Arizona license, and they made you take the 946 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 1: eye test and I couldn't see, and I was like 947 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 1: reading off the letters and she's like a different letter. 948 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 1: She kind of helped me cheat, they don't care here much. 949 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 1: I was like, God, my eyes, But if you wear 950 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,840 Speaker 1: dark glasses at night, Like, how do you see anything? 951 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,400 Speaker 1: I understand, like, listen, I'm not a fashionista here, but 952 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 1: maybe you think it looks good. I just don't know 953 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 1: how functionally you see anything? But people trying to be cool. 954 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,360 Speaker 1: I really think it's that simple, like just trying to 955 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 1: be cool. But can you see like part of wearing 956 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 1: sunglasses you Ice was on a five hours or not 957 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 1: five hours three hour drive yesterday in the afternoon, sun 958 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 1: barren down at you. Without the sunglasses, you just wouldn't 959 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 1: be able to see the road. But at night in 960 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 1: the dark, I don't know, don't get it. Question comment 961 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,439 Speaker 1: for the pod? Have you seen Deebo's latest Twitter back 962 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:44,479 Speaker 1: and forth with boxer Devin Haney? Can't help but laugh 963 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 1: at the irony of Deebo trying to make fun of 964 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,520 Speaker 1: a multiple time world champion for losing a championship bout, 965 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 1: especially coming from someone who is very outspoken about fans 966 00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 1: withholding criticism and just being fans that aside. If given 967 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,439 Speaker 1: an ultimatum of debo versus IYUK, do the Niners care 968 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,560 Speaker 1: about these off field antics or is it minor comparison 969 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 1: to the factors of on field impact and age. I 970 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 1: got news for you. Nobody with any common sense gives 971 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 1: a flying fuck about any Twitter interaction like that. There 972 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 1: can't be a place that is, honestly or should be 973 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: even more irrelevant to society than it is. The reason 974 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: it gets talked about so much, like on television stuff, 975 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 1: because the media lives on it. They're on it twenty 976 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 1: four seven, three sixty five. It's like their happy place, 977 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 1: even though they are like I'm leaving when Elon bought it, 978 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: like you did not only leave, you guys have doubled 979 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 1: down like I'm going to threads. No, you're not. You 980 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 1: tweet more now than ever. But interactions, I don't think 981 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 1: they probably don't even know what happened. It does now, 982 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 1: it could not matter any less. Yeah, deeb like talking 983 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,200 Speaker 1: shit about that. I always hate when players talk bad 984 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: about the fans, like you guys do know where the 985 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 1: money comes from from? Those guys Now, obviously there's a 986 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 1: line you can't cross. But like if it's booing or something, 987 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 1: I can't believe these guys the stuff they said to 988 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 1: me and my mentions don't check them. I mean you 989 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 1: don't have to sign on and you can't take the 990 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 1: good with the bad. Like you love it when you 991 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 1: dominat and everyone's blowing you on there, it's like whoo. 992 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 1: And then you have a bad game and everyone's shitting 993 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 1: on you. It's like, these fans are such assholes. They 994 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 1: only care about me one of the fantasy team. Well, 995 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 1: you love the last two weeks when you have three 996 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 1: touchdowns and you're retweeting and liking. It's a problem with 997 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 1: social media. It's like everyone loves the good, but they 998 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 1: hate the bad. I didn't see it, and yeah I don't, 999 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 1: i'd be lying. I'm not Chris mannics here to uh, 1000 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: I know know nothing about Haney. Well, I don't even 1001 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: know why Deebo would. Does he not like the d 1002 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Was he rooting for the other fighter? I don't. I 1003 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 1: don't get it. But I just think they want Deebo 1004 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: to be in shape and get open on down the 1005 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 1: field routes. I mean he could not get open in 1006 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. The Chiefs clamped him down like it 1007 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: was me. It was honestly an enlightening experience. I think 1008 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 1: for Kyle that's why they drafted a wide receiver in 1009 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 1: the first round and Debo is it's kind of a 1010 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 1: one of one, right, Like he's a dominant player behind 1011 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, but he is a wide receiver, 1012 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 1: so it's like, can you run some routes? And sometimes 1013 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 1: he can, like he can go over the middle, but 1014 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't stretch the field, doesn't make any place down 1015 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 1: the field in terms of it's not really his game. 1016 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 1: So they're also they've already paid him like he's on 1017 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 1: the team because of his contract if he if like 1018 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 1: all things were equal and they could have gotten rid 1019 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 1: of one, they would have gotten rid of Deebo Samuel 1020 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 1: and just signed Brandon Nyuk. But the problem is Deebo 1021 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,920 Speaker 1: makes twenty, brand Ayuk wants thirty. It just gets very 1022 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 1: expensive for a team that doesn't even pass that often, 1023 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 1: Like they're never gonna have one hundred catch wide receiver. 1024 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 1: So first thing, they do not care at all about 1025 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 1: anything back and forth on Twitter or Instagram. Obviously there 1026 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 1: is a line like certain things you can't do or say, 1027 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 1: but just like talking shit to someone else, nobody cares. Okay, 1028 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: last one, with all the contract talks recently regarding wide receivers, 1029 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 1: I'd love to know your thoughts on AJ Brown's three 1030 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 1: year ninety six million dollar extension and DeVante's three year 1031 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 1: seventy five million dollar extension. Did Howie smartly jump the 1032 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 1: market and overpay well it? AJ Brown's a lot like 1033 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 1: Dak Right, the Eagles initially gave him a large extension 1034 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,960 Speaker 1: and then he bawled. So he's due for a big race, right, 1035 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 1: So it's he's an expensive player. He was an expensive 1036 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,160 Speaker 1: player the last couple of years. So if you're gonna 1037 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 1: give him extension, you're gonna have to come up. I 1038 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 1: don't have the numbers in front of me, but you 1039 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 1: start talking thirty million dollars a year range. He was 1040 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 1: just making what was he making twenty two? So when 1041 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 1: you factor in multiple years, the inflation of the of 1042 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 1: the position, kind of the cost of doing business. Like 1043 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 1: if A. J. Brown was hit the free agent market, 1044 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 1: someone would have given him four year contract for what 1045 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five million dollars? You know, DeVante, 1046 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 1: this is the thing, Like, they're gonna be a passing team. 1047 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:48,840 Speaker 1: I know they're gonna want to run the ball again. 1048 01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: In theory they will because they have Saquon now, but 1049 01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,440 Speaker 1: the Eagles like passing it they always have and always 1050 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,840 Speaker 1: will because that's what the owner likes doing. So you 1051 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,480 Speaker 1: have one of the better number two wide receivers in 1052 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 1: the NFL and same type thing, like, ideally, do you 1053 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 1: want to be paying two wide receivers one hundred and 1054 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 1: seventy five million dollars of combined contracts? I mean it's 1055 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 1: it's a lot allocated to two guys. But if you 1056 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,439 Speaker 1: pass it all the time and they're both worth it, yeah, 1057 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Let DeVante walk? You drafted them, 1058 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,440 Speaker 1: you love them just I just think it's the cost. 1059 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,640 Speaker 1: I yeah, good contracts. I never have a problem with 1060 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 1: paying a guy a lot of money. He's a good player, 1061 01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,640 Speaker 1: especially when he's your own guy and you can win 1062 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 1: with him. It's just expensive. And now they are. They 1063 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 1: spend a lot of money on the offense. That's why 1064 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,439 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of pressure on Kellen Moore. 1065 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 1: Quarterback makes a ton line. Left tackles paid, the right 1066 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 1: tackles paid, guards paid, running backs paid, tight ends paid. 1067 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,080 Speaker 1: Wide receivers are paid. I would say anything, but like 1068 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,600 Speaker 1: a top five offense next year is gonna be viewed 1069 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 1: as a disappointment Eagles. I think there's a ton of 1070 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 1: pressure on the productivity to a lot of the players. 1071 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 1: And same thing with defense Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter, 1072 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,919 Speaker 1: Like there's gonna be tangible pressure on those two guys 1073 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 1: the ball, especially Jalen Carter top ten pick. You have 1074 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,479 Speaker 1: all the talent in the world Vic Fangio, what he's 1075 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 1: done with defensive linemen turned him into stars and had 1076 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl impact guys. You've invested a lot of capital 1077 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,560 Speaker 1: and all these players paying them a lot of money. 1078 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 1: I think the Eagles, everyone and probably including myself, I'm 1079 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:36,680 Speaker 1: gonna pick them to win the division. But I don't know. Man, 1080 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,720 Speaker 1: We'll see. Because you start paying a lot of money, 1081 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,439 Speaker 1: the expectations go even higher. And coming off a down year, 1082 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 1: I can't a. J. Brown's really good, DeVante Smiths really good. 1083 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,600 Speaker 1: It's kind of the cost of doing business, right. The 1084 01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 1: hard part is, you know, when you have a number 1085 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 1: two wide receiver and you have a clear one like 1086 01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 1: AJ Brown clear one, Jamar Chase clear one, how much 1087 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 1: is your number two like the Bengals, do you want 1088 01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,840 Speaker 1: to give t Higgins that type deal? Clearly they're hesitant 1089 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,960 Speaker 1: to do it. Now. I would say DeVante is a 1090 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 1: better player in t Higgins. But that's the Niners problem. 1091 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 1: It's like Deebo's not even a number one. Ayuk is 1092 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,000 Speaker 1: probably not a number one, but he's like DeVante, he's not. 1093 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 1: He's better than a two, but it'll never be like 1094 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,600 Speaker 1: a top five or six guy in the league. It's 1095 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,160 Speaker 1: just conundrum. And then how do we play the Eagles. 1096 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 1: We want to pass. We want to pass a lot. 1097 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,080 Speaker 1: It drives people nuts sometimes, but they do. It's who 1098 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 1: they are. I don't think it's gonna change much. Saekau 1099 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:41,520 Speaker 1: One's gonna touch the ball a lot, but I bet 1100 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,160 Speaker 1: they throw them the ball a lot, a lot of 1101 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,080 Speaker 1: wheel routes, a lot of screens. Get the ball to him. 1102 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 1: Don't expect him to have twenty carries a game. That 1103 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 1: is not the way the Eagles play. They get their 1104 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 1: dynamic running backs the ball, they get them their touches, 1105 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 1: but they do in the passing game. So I think 1106 01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,440 Speaker 1: Eagles are one of the more fascinating teams in the 1107 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,360 Speaker 1: league because of their talent, because the new coaching staff 1108 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:07,680 Speaker 1: or new coordinators, same head coach. And I think the division. 1109 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,120 Speaker 1: You know, Cowboys have won the Division two of the 1110 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 1: last three years. I don't think There are many people, 1111 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 1: including in Dallas, that feel that good about that squad. 1112 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening. You guys are good people. All my 1113 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 1: people behind the scenes, James doing video, Adam doing audio, 1114 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 1: Daniel new to the squad. We got a crew here that, uh, 1115 01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,760 Speaker 1: not just it's not just your boy here. We have 1116 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 1: a operation at the Volume that helps put this together. 1117 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 1: So thank you to everybody and have a great day 1118 01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 1: The Volume