WEBVTT - Mo'Nique Interview

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<v Speaker 1>Real people, real celebrity joined the Breakfast Morning. Everybody is

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Mvy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the

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<v Speaker 1>Breakfast Club. We have a special guest with us this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know, just calling one of the queens

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<v Speaker 1>of comedy. You seem like you do so much more

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<v Speaker 1>than that. Now, hey baby, good morning. She came in

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<v Speaker 1>here on nights. I thought she was gonna come in

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<v Speaker 1>and yell at us or something. Wow, Now I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, your reputation procede you. Everybody think you're difficult

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<v Speaker 1>and angry all the time. For the folks that know me,

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<v Speaker 1>they know that's that's truly a joke. Absolutely, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>simming this baby, don't know me too well kidding, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you were going to really do that. Actually, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen a lot of your interviews lately, yes, and it

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<v Speaker 1>does seem a little odd that people would act like

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<v Speaker 1>you were so difficult and angry all the time. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>we know you as a comedian first, you know, always

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<v Speaker 1>pretty funny, and then we've seen you do some great

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<v Speaker 1>acting roles. We've seen your you know, your own TV show,

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<v Speaker 1>your own stock show. So I was like, where did

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<v Speaker 1>this come from? You know, well, angry is the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I've heard that word, and that's that's new for

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<v Speaker 1>me this morning. The difficulty, I think comes in when

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<v Speaker 1>they're used to hearing people say yes, and the moment

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<v Speaker 1>you get that no, that can be considered difficult aboutely

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<v Speaker 1>because if we're normally getting the yes and we run

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<v Speaker 1>into the person that says no, that could be a

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<v Speaker 1>little difficult that I'm not going to change my note

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<v Speaker 1>toy yes, So I can see how people would say

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<v Speaker 1>that absolutely that what you're saying no, you said you

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<v Speaker 1>got that actually from Martin. Martin gave you some great advice.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. When we did Roscoe Jenkins, that brother pulled

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<v Speaker 1>me in his trailer and he said, Monique, don't ever

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<v Speaker 1>let them tell you what you can't have. Now his

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<v Speaker 1>trailer was a three floor penhouse. Okay, baby laid out,

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<v Speaker 1>and as we were talking, that brother was just giving

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<v Speaker 1>me that kind of brotherly and sisterly love, saying, they

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you no, they will tell you it's impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't let them tell you what you can't have. As

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<v Speaker 1>I'm standing in his three story penhouse trailer, now, let

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<v Speaker 1>me ask you question as as our people black people

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<v Speaker 1>say black people were scaring say black say black black

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<v Speaker 1>people people. It feels like we're scared to say no.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like sometimes that when we get something, it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like entitlement. You see that a lot with us,

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<v Speaker 1>because no matter what it is, it seems like if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody gives us something, we're like, okay, thank you, instead

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<v Speaker 1>of saying no, that's not my value, that's not my worth. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think historically we've done that, you know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that when you come from a place where we've never

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<v Speaker 1>gotten any money to then we're gonna get a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of money and we're just grateful for that little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of money. Then you have the people saying, well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we need our worth, and you still have those people

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<v Speaker 1>saying we should just be happy with what we're getting.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not something that's new, it's something historically that

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<v Speaker 1>has always happened. So to say do I see it now, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we've always seen it. If we've been paying attention. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a problem with like you say no, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then another comedian who's doesn't care about their value

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<v Speaker 1>or that's really just trying to trip you, we'll say

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<v Speaker 1>yes and get that job, and that could have been

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<v Speaker 1>something that maybe you could have got or something that

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<v Speaker 1>would have been big for you, but you said no

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<v Speaker 1>when they undercut you. Does that happen a lot to you? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's a thing of undercutting. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>If you read Lewis Gotsi's book, Lewis goots said, what

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood does understand what one won't do, another one will.

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<v Speaker 1>So oftentimes you'll see us taking roles because when we

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<v Speaker 1>take a stand and say I can't accept that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to pay me what my resume says I'm worth, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they say, well, you know what another one will. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't fault that other one, whoever that other one is,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't know that situation. So for whatever reason

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<v Speaker 1>someone says yes I will, I can't judge it because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know it. I only know mine. And there

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<v Speaker 1>are certain things that you have to say, we got

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<v Speaker 1>a order line in the sand, because if not, my

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<v Speaker 1>sweet sister, your opportunities wouldn't come to you the way

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<v Speaker 1>that they do and for the next sister. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what this is all bawling down to. You

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<v Speaker 1>have some that will and something that won't. What about

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<v Speaker 1>all the independent movies that people are making that what

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<v Speaker 1>if there's truly no budget, but you think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great script, but they can't pay you your resume? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>then can you say, Okay, you know what, this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually a great opportunity. I love it. I underst and

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<v Speaker 1>that you're a new you know, you don't have the funding.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm down, you know what. That's a great point, says

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<v Speaker 1>And with Blackbird, the movie that's coming out Friday, April

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourth, it's independent and the reason why Sitney and

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to be a part of it was

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<v Speaker 1>number one, the message was amazing and it's amazing. Sitney,

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<v Speaker 1>my husband and we were able to executive produce it.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have real ownership, right So when you're that

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<v Speaker 1>passionate about something and you say, I'll not take the

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<v Speaker 1>full money upfront, but we own some of that. So

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<v Speaker 1>in success, we will reap the benefits. As long as

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<v Speaker 1>you see that movie, wherever you see it, we reap

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<v Speaker 1>the benefits from it. Sometimes what happens is you'll see

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<v Speaker 1>something over and over and over again, but we reap

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<v Speaker 1>the benefit one time, then somebody else continues to reap

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<v Speaker 1>that benefit. So for us, we appreciate the independent route

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<v Speaker 1>because it gives us ownership of our image and our likeness,

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<v Speaker 1>and they should appreciate that too, because and that means

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<v Speaker 1>you believed in it so much that you're like, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to put my name on this, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be involved. I know that my name and my skills

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<v Speaker 1>are going to help take this to the next level,

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<v Speaker 1>and we all get paid. You know. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a mutual respect all the way around. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not one doing something for the other, it's we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>something for each other, and we believe in the project.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get married together in this business deal and

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<v Speaker 1>make it happen. It's easier to do that when you

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<v Speaker 1>got the money, though, it's easier to do be independent. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you're independent, just like anything else, you

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<v Speaker 1>go for funding, You go for investors, just like you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to the studio. The studio is an investor. Now

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<v Speaker 1>they get mostly all and then something back. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you go independently, it's no different. You're going to those investors,

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<v Speaker 1>those people to fund it. Now, what made you want

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<v Speaker 1>to make Blackbird? Do you have somebody like in your

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<v Speaker 1>family that's dealing with sexual identity issues? I think that

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<v Speaker 1>every single person that's listening to every one of y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>every one of us has somebody in our family that's

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with or has dealt with their sexuality. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why Blackbird was so important is because so many

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<v Speaker 1>of our babies are struggling with trying to accept who

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<v Speaker 1>they are and be accepted. Because in this day and age,

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<v Speaker 1>you have people still struggling with something that makes you say,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe we're still fighting with other human beings

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<v Speaker 1>just to be the way they are. So with Blackbird,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a story about a young brother coming up

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<v Speaker 1>in a Deep South seventeen years old in high school

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<v Speaker 1>on a roll student, a really good guy, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>fighting with the sexuality because he's been raised in a

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<v Speaker 1>strict Christian upbringing that it's a sin, you're condemned to hell,

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<v Speaker 1>you are a disgrace if you are a homosexual. So

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<v Speaker 1>you see this baby trying to deal with that. His mother,

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<v Speaker 1>the character that I play, she's one of those women

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<v Speaker 1>that she believes everything in the Bible, she believes everything

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<v Speaker 1>on that pulpit. So to her to find out that

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<v Speaker 1>her baby is gay and then she's still fighting the

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<v Speaker 1>abduction of her daughter. Oh baby, she thinks that little

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<v Speaker 1>boy has disgraced the family, going to hell. He is

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<v Speaker 1>the worst creature on the face of this earth trying

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with fat So you see the dynamic behind

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<v Speaker 1>the duor. Isaiah Washington, who is absolutely brilliant, plays the

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<v Speaker 1>dad in this movie. And only when you see a

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<v Speaker 1>dad on TV plane, a father to a gay son,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the church stereotypical. I hate you how it's the

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<v Speaker 1>exact It is the exact opposent, and Isaiah Washington loves

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<v Speaker 1>his baby through it. So we appreciative to show that

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<v Speaker 1>character and not unique. There are fathers that love their

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<v Speaker 1>sons through it, loved their daughters through it, but we

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<v Speaker 1>just don't get a chance to see it. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those films that we believe will change hearts,

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<v Speaker 1>open minds, and start different conversation, different conversations in our churches. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>my life, what made you want to take on another struggle?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're black, your female, you got your own issues

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<v Speaker 1>in America? What made you want to deal with the

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<v Speaker 1>issue of the issues homosexual homosexual face? You know, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the issue of love. And when I was

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen years old, I was introduced to that culture with

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<v Speaker 1>some beautiful young gay black brothers and they all have

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<v Speaker 1>the same story most of them. Did you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was thrown away the church don't want me no more?

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<v Speaker 1>And their ruggling to find their place. Now most of

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<v Speaker 1>those brothers are gone today. So during this movie was

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<v Speaker 1>truly my love letter to those brothers saying we hope

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<v Speaker 1>this makes a difference. And the brother playing the character,

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<v Speaker 1>the star of the movie, Julian Walker, when I tell y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>this baby was so brave and so courageous and so

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<v Speaker 1>fearless because to take on that role and he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know to be afraid. It's the first thing he's ever done.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like Gabaree, Citabey and Precious got the same feelings

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<v Speaker 1>with that baby. With this baby, to take on such

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<v Speaker 1>a role and not be concerned about what people might

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<v Speaker 1>think and just give it its honesty. It is something

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<v Speaker 1>to see that you and Lee Daniels cool because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not right his alley. You know, I'm gonna say this,

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Daniels and I are cool. It's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things when you know how you have a friend and

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<v Speaker 1>a friend go to a left a little bit and

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<v Speaker 1>you wait for him to come on back over. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. I'm just waiting for him to come

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<v Speaker 1>on back over. That's come on back over, and you

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<v Speaker 1>would work with him again. Yes, I think Lee Daniels

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the most brilliant visionaries of our generation.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, why did you feel to need to show

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<v Speaker 1>the emails about being offered the role of Cookie because

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<v Speaker 1>they was lying on you because my character was in

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<v Speaker 1>question and I took pride of my character. Now, if

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<v Speaker 1>people who just joined us that they don't understand you

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<v Speaker 1>were offered the role yes, Cookie, Yes, and yet the

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<v Speaker 1>emails to prove it. But you know, on the other side,

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<v Speaker 1>they were saying she was never offered that role. So

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of made you look like girl. Didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>me look crazy, y'all know, Mama ain't crazy. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was it. It was. It was when mister Strong made

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<v Speaker 1>the statement she was never offered the role and that

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<v Speaker 1>never happened. It's like, as I have the communication here, right, so,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to play that game, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say, when you're putting something out that is not

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<v Speaker 1>true and it's an attack on my character, let me

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<v Speaker 1>show you what it is. So explain what happened. Break

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<v Speaker 1>it down. So you got to offer the role, yes, Empire,

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<v Speaker 1>of course Cookie, And then what happened got off with

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<v Speaker 1>the role of Empire for Cookie and normally the way

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<v Speaker 1>Leon I do business. When he called me for Shadowboxer,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a call from Lee. Hey my mom got

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<v Speaker 1>this part. I want you to play, No problem, send

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<v Speaker 1>me the script. That's it. Attorneys get involved, we do

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<v Speaker 1>the deal. Same thing with Prescious. Hey my mom got

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<v Speaker 1>this role, want you to do it? We call attorneys,

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<v Speaker 1>get involved. Deal is done. Well. It was no difference

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<v Speaker 1>with this one. That's how we've always done business. Hey

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<v Speaker 1>my mom got this role for you. It's Cookie for

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<v Speaker 1>this pilot. I'm doing Empire. We laughed and joked about it,

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it, got the size for it. He's sitting there, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to do this technical thing, this screen testing,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's TV and you know I don't know too

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<v Speaker 1>much about TV. No problem, brother, that's my boy. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. While when we were waiting to get

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<v Speaker 1>the date to do the screen tests, that's when all

0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:47.800
<v Speaker 1>the confusion begin to come in. Cauls weren't being returned.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, Hey, what's happening? When I finally get a call,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, listen, Fox said, you're difficult. I said, I'm difficult,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, And I told them, let you be my difficulty.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, brother, while, but you tell them that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not never had any problems with each other. He was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they just want to go with to Rogie p Henson. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>she's gonna knock it out the part, no problem, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't put it out there that your girl is difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, well, you know I can't let you mess

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<v Speaker 1>with my money. Go get it, baby. That was what

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<v Speaker 1>our conversation was. So when I see my brother going

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<v Speaker 1>on TV and he says things that he know it's

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<v Speaker 1>not true, it's like, just tell the conversation that we had.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all. It's not right, wrong, or indifferent. Just tell

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation that we had. You think you should have

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<v Speaker 1>had your back though, you know, I mean you think

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<v Speaker 1>you should have really, because 'all did movies with maybe

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<v Speaker 1>his hands. Though. I don't want to mess with anybody's money.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they're saying, listen, we're not gonna use her,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna do it with her. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to mess with my brother's money, and to Rogie p

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<v Speaker 1>Henson is the baddest Cookie Lions that television could ever see.

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<v Speaker 1>So the person that was supposed to get it got it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it has nothing to do with that. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>principle of you putting it out there that it never happened.

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<v Speaker 1>When you see that road, do you think that you

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<v Speaker 1>could have pulled it off as good as you know? Again,

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<v Speaker 1>my sister is killing it. There's no comparison. She's killing it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like, once you see somebody doing it, could

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<v Speaker 1>anybody else be jj? Could anybody else have been nicky Poker?

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<v Speaker 1>So when you see it, it's like there's no one

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<v Speaker 1>else that could have been Cookie Lions of it than

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<v Speaker 1>to Roger PN's Well, it's great that you've been coming

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<v Speaker 1>out now and letting people know what really went down

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes, because people were thinking, oh, maybe she's difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't want to work with her. So now are

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<v Speaker 1>the offers pouring in? Well, you know the offers. When

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<v Speaker 1>you say they pouring in, they never stopped coming. The

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<v Speaker 1>scripts never stopped coming. Okay, they just didn't make sense,

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<v Speaker 1>So there was no black ball that happened. That's the confusion.

0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:39.560
<v Speaker 1>They say you black ball, But then you getting all

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<v Speaker 1>these scripts offer there was no black I never said

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<v Speaker 1>I was black ball. That was Lee Daniel's perception. And

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<v Speaker 1>I tell people you have to actually Daniels about that,

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<v Speaker 1>because it never stopped on my end. The reason why

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<v Speaker 1>you hadn't seen me is because it just didn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And had I taken those roles and taking those offers,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we leave for the sister coming behind us? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Got it? Go ahead? Monique's been around a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure this is your first time seeing how shady

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<v Speaker 1>the industry is. But you know what, baby, it's life.

0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:21.280
<v Speaker 1>It's not just Hollywood, It's it's across the board, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just deal with it accordingly. And you have to

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<v Speaker 1>ask the question, will you be willing to take a

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<v Speaker 1>stand or will you consider to stay in the shade?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that a lot of black people we

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<v Speaker 1>take opportunity over money because we feel like it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of opportunity out there for us. We say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we at least if I get in this position in

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<v Speaker 1>the next person, you'll get paid. You know. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>a great question, And I think it really depends on

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<v Speaker 1>the situation. You know, again, I can't judge anyone's situation,

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<v Speaker 1>but I really think it depends on the situation at hand.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there was a story about this brother, Kirk

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<v Speaker 1>flood Um baseball player, and I hope I'm saying this

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<v Speaker 1>name correctly. And because of that brother is why we

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<v Speaker 1>have free agency. And doing his time period, he was

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<v Speaker 1>taking a stands in you're not paying us for our worth,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were other players saying just be quiet and

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<v Speaker 1>accepted because we've gotten an opportunity. Well, that man died,

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<v Speaker 1>broke and ill, and then when they did the documentary

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<v Speaker 1>documentary on him, all the players said that was alive

0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.280
<v Speaker 1>during that time and played with him. He was right.

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<v Speaker 1>We was just too afraid that we would get shut

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<v Speaker 1>out and we had to feed our families. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know people's situations, but it's just unfortunate. It

0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.840
<v Speaker 1>takes some of us to leave here for people that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say they were right. Absolutely. Now, when you won

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<v Speaker 1>the Academy award, was that a gift or was it

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<v Speaker 1>a curse? Or was it both? It was appreciated, and

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<v Speaker 1>any award I've ever won, I'm appreciative of it, But

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't the Academy that was that award that made

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<v Speaker 1>me feel like this is that award. And I find

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<v Speaker 1>it interesting because when we speak about what black people

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<v Speaker 1>do and don't do, even when I come to us

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<v Speaker 1>to do the interviews, no one's ever asked me how

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<v Speaker 1>I felt the night that I'm won the Image Award,

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<v Speaker 1>which is ours. No one's ever put value into our award.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always the Oscar and I understand it because we've

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<v Speaker 1>been conditioned to believe that's it. That's what I say

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<v Speaker 1>about the Grammys when I see all these rappers and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff there. I didn't even win a Grammar in the Grammy,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't feel that you don't even show up

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<v Speaker 1>to the the b T Hip hop awards are to be

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<v Speaker 1>when they call your neighbor. That's accept your award for you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the moment we put value into us is

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<v Speaker 1>the moment it becomes valuable. With the elbow point when

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<v Speaker 1>you won out of school, you really was feeling yourself

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<v Speaker 1>like I am the hit right now. No, baby, you

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<v Speaker 1>know being an actress is something that literally fell in

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<v Speaker 1>my lap. But you're from the bottom though, like you

0:15:53.840 --> 0:16:04.960
<v Speaker 1>was a stand up comic. Is that I'm never head, baby,

0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.760
<v Speaker 1>don't make me bring Drake to the show. Don't do

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<v Speaker 1>it from the stage comments, Yes, they come up from

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<v Speaker 1>that stage. Win the Academy award. That's a big big deal,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. To to win any award is a big

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<v Speaker 1>big deal for me because whenever they call my name,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm that little girl standing in my bathroom mirror saying,

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<v Speaker 1>one day with a brush in my hand and a

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<v Speaker 1>tail around my body, I'm that little girl. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care what award it is, but the trophies that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really appreciative of. My son's football trophy. Talk about

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<v Speaker 1>one is twenty five. Michael's eleven, and the twins David

0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and Jonathan are nine. Now, y'all gotta understand why the

0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.680
<v Speaker 1>football trophies are the biggest trophies and the hits residence

0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:55.600
<v Speaker 1>because Michael is a superstar football player. Baby. He runs

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<v Speaker 1>all around these children, touchdowns, tackles. He's getting it. But

0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.960
<v Speaker 1>the twins, okay, they don't. They don't really do it

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So when they got their trophies, we were

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<v Speaker 1>so proud. We were like, these on the trophies right here, baby.

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<v Speaker 1>But now did I show off with those trophies? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I called all my friends and said, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>don't even want to see none of this, baby, the

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<v Speaker 1>Hicks Brothers trophy. Do you ever think about going and

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<v Speaker 1>doing another stand up comedy tour about That's the same

0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:28.399
<v Speaker 1>thing I've never stopped. I've never stopped like a full tour.

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<v Speaker 1>Like before I came here to New York, I was

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<v Speaker 1>in cents a Tucky doing the improfit Censor Tucky. Okay,

0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:40.040
<v Speaker 1>it's Cincinnati and Kentucky, baby, but crossed the street over

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<v Speaker 1>on the other and they call it Censor Tucky. I

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<v Speaker 1>was confused to listen, baby, that don't sound like a

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<v Speaker 1>difficult person to me. Let me tell you, I love

0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:52.359
<v Speaker 1>that circuit because it gives me the opportunity to say

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, and it gives me the opportunity to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to say no to things that just don't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I was listening to Richard Pryor, Richard Pryor's

0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.639
<v Speaker 1>best work and my humble opinion for me, was in

0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the clubs. It was when it was intimate, right there

0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.560
<v Speaker 1>in your face. You could feel that I'm smoking, you

0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.120
<v Speaker 1>can feel I'm drinking, you can feel the waitresses. That

0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.960
<v Speaker 1>was the best for me, and I love that intimacy.

0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.199
<v Speaker 1>I love being on that club stage, and we are

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<v Speaker 1>right there together even after all of that, and they

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<v Speaker 1>say more, why would you come back to the clubs?

0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Because I can and I'm supposed to. And it's my

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<v Speaker 1>way of saying thank you and thank y'all for letting

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<v Speaker 1>me to continue to say no to things that don't

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<v Speaker 1>make sense. That means you're making a lot of money

0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:43.320
<v Speaker 1>in them clubs. This HBO. Bessie said, yeah, what is Bessie?

0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.520
<v Speaker 1>What is this? Blacks? Where the black balling coming from?

0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:52.560
<v Speaker 1>You're getting all his working man? Now, now you could

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<v Speaker 1>day the face that's the playground face. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>They said mean things about me in the sind ybe No,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to get on the sea saw with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I go no. You know again, you know how they say,

0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.880
<v Speaker 1>don't believe everything you hear and half of what you see.

0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:12.960
<v Speaker 1>It was so easy to jump to the negative. It

0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.879
<v Speaker 1>was so easy. And people said, Monique, how do you

0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.879
<v Speaker 1>feel that some of your peers or people were saying

0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.040
<v Speaker 1>this and that. I said, y'all, I'm no different than

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<v Speaker 1>the sister that working the burger king. Somebody started a

0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.080
<v Speaker 1>rumor and it kept spreading and it went to all

0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the burger kings in that region, and no one came

0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:31.680
<v Speaker 1>to the sister that was frying to god dag on

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<v Speaker 1>burgers and asked her, what really happened? Did you really

0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:36.840
<v Speaker 1>drop the burger on the floor and put it back

0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:38.399
<v Speaker 1>in the bun and give it to the president of

0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:41.320
<v Speaker 1>the company. No one ever took the time out to ask.

0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:45.320
<v Speaker 1>So it's just being able to say for what really happened.

0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.520
<v Speaker 1>And I appreciate the brothers and sisters to say, mo,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened instead of jumping to that place of this

0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:58.159
<v Speaker 1>is what went down and we know it. Bessie Smith

0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:02.520
<v Speaker 1>was one of the greatest blue singers of our time,

0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:09.040
<v Speaker 1>of that time, and Queen Latifa plays Bessie Smith. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I tell y'all that, in my humble opinion, it

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<v Speaker 1>is her best performance to date because she is Bessie Smith.

0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:23.679
<v Speaker 1>Remember how Jamie was Rachel. Queen Latifa is Bessie Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>It's scary. I mean, this sister is so amazing in

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<v Speaker 1>this role that you. As I was watching her, I'm like,

0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:34.520
<v Speaker 1>go here, girl and do your thing. And it just

0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:37.040
<v Speaker 1>tells her life story. And I get the opportunity to

0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:39.720
<v Speaker 1>play a character named my Rainie and I never heard

0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.200
<v Speaker 1>of this woman until I read the script. Just goes

0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.439
<v Speaker 1>to show you that we gotta dig for our history

0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:47.240
<v Speaker 1>because they don't tell her to us in schools. My

0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Rainie was Bessie Smith's mentor. And you get a chance

0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:53.919
<v Speaker 1>to see this amazing friendship between these two women that

0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.720
<v Speaker 1>we don't often get a chance to see anymore. And

0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you watch just the ups and downs and how this

0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:03.280
<v Speaker 1>group of people during that time was able to make

0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:07.960
<v Speaker 1>it through Mike Apps, Charles Dutton, Candy Alexander, Tiki something.

0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:12.080
<v Speaker 1>It's It is just absolutely something to watch sixteenth on HBO.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever just want to scream out, like when

0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:17.000
<v Speaker 1>they say things like Monique was black, bitch, I'm working

0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:22.320
<v Speaker 1>come to the show, and I was going to pass

0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:24.480
<v Speaker 1>that with your husband. You and your husband are so tight, Yes,

0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:26.160
<v Speaker 1>do you ever have to check him and be like, baby,

0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:27.800
<v Speaker 1>don't go punch that man in his face because you

0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:30.119
<v Speaker 1>know it's this is you know you was baby and

0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:33.440
<v Speaker 1>this is a partnership. Now you know my husband has

0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:40.200
<v Speaker 1>to check me. Okay, my husband, I've been best friend

0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:43.520
<v Speaker 1>since tenth grade, since we were fourteen years old, and

0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:46.199
<v Speaker 1>he's probably the only human being on the face of

0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.560
<v Speaker 1>this earth that knows me better than I know myself.

0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:51.520
<v Speaker 1>So when I hear people saying that Monique and her

0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:54.840
<v Speaker 1>husband are these difficult people, it makes us both laugh

0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.720
<v Speaker 1>because we're so far from that. What we are a

0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:01.080
<v Speaker 1>very honest people and we hold you to your words

0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:04.680
<v Speaker 1>and your conversations, and people can have a difficult time

0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:07.920
<v Speaker 1>with that. And again, that's why people will say they're difficult,

0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:11.400
<v Speaker 1>because we ask questions that normally aren't asked, and they

0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:14.439
<v Speaker 1>haven't practiced the answer, so before we'll get an answer,

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:18.200
<v Speaker 1>they're just these difficult people. And it's understandable. What did

0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:20.440
<v Speaker 1>you think when you read about the Sony leaks, you know,

0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:22.720
<v Speaker 1>where the emails were leaked from all the executives back

0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:24.560
<v Speaker 1>and forth, and they were talking about all the actors,

0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.040
<v Speaker 1>and you know, we were not in Hollywood, so we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how executives talking. We were like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe they said that, and all this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is coming out. Were you surprising, I can't believe that,

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<v Speaker 1>you said, I can't believe they said that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the average person, the average person is just like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>why are they talking like this about? You know, these

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<v Speaker 1>famous actors are talking about Angelina and Jolie. They're going

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<v Speaker 1>in on Kevin Hart because they're people and they do

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<v Speaker 1>what we do as people. We talk about people, we

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<v Speaker 1>put people to a different esteem, we hold them to

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<v Speaker 1>a different level. Well, they're executives, but executives are what

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<v Speaker 1>they people. It's just like that sister in the burger king,

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<v Speaker 1>just that bank accounts are different. That's it. So once

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<v Speaker 1>we start realizing they're just people and they do what

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<v Speaker 1>people do, we don't put so much weight and be

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<v Speaker 1>so shocked. How could they say that, because they just

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:14.680
<v Speaker 1>people and that's what people do. Now everybody's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this influxible black folks on TV right now. They see

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<v Speaker 1>it's looking like the nineties. He thought my vib that

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<v Speaker 1>he was saying it. Do you think it's a trend

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<v Speaker 1>or something that's gonna last? Just do yourself a favor today.

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<v Speaker 1>Start your TV on channel zero and go all way

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<v Speaker 1>to one hundred and see how many of people of

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<v Speaker 1>color you see, and then react that question. So, do

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<v Speaker 1>we think it's an influx due? But when you just

0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:47.680
<v Speaker 1>count the numbers, you'll answer your own question. True. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Blackbird, why do you think homophobia is still

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<v Speaker 1>so prevalent in the Black community. You know what, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>I used to think that it was only prevalent in

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<v Speaker 1>the Black community. And I used to think it was

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<v Speaker 1>only our churches that were, you know, the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>were saying put them out no more. Until we started

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<v Speaker 1>taking this film to the festivals around the country, and

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 1>what we realized was, it's not just in the Black

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<v Speaker 1>community at all. It's in the Asian community. It's in

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<v Speaker 1>the Latin community, it's in the Italian community, it's in

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<v Speaker 1>the Jewish community. It's come on, now, it's in every community.

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<v Speaker 1>Because again, it's just people. I only felt like it

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<v Speaker 1>was in the Black community because that's the community that

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<v Speaker 1>I deal was mainly. So I only saw the pain

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<v Speaker 1>in our community. But then when you go out, you

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:36.159
<v Speaker 1>see that pain in all communities. True, now, you awful

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<v Speaker 1>lot of week. Yes, it was like a hundred pounds, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard you said you was the champion of big girls.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like you're abandoning them? Do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm a small girl? You're small? Yeah, here's what's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>I am still two hundred pounds. And for y'all to

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<v Speaker 1>look at me and say you're not big? Oh how big?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God? And no one said a damn thing to

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<v Speaker 1>me until one time, thing, Sasha, I watched the Parkers

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<v Speaker 1>one time and rerun okay, and I saw Nikki's ass

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<v Speaker 1>going to the door. I said, no one said anything.

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<v Speaker 1>No one said And here's the thing. By no means

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<v Speaker 1>am I ever gonna be a small woman ever. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I do want to do is be a big,

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<v Speaker 1>healthy woman. My husband liked the curves, he likes the roundness.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to be around so we can enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>each other for a lifetime. So never will I get

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<v Speaker 1>to be a two or four, six, eight, ten, twelve.

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Right now, I'm in a fourteen w sixteen, and depending

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:45.639
<v Speaker 1>on how it's cut, baby, I might need an eighteen.

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:47.960
<v Speaker 1>But okay, but I'm not trying to be that. All

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to do is be around as long as

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<v Speaker 1>I can, and to say to my big sisters, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going nowhere. I'm still right here, but we can be

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>big healthy women. True. But you know what it was.

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>You lived your truth, and when you live your truth,

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:02.879
<v Speaker 1>nobody can use your truth against you. That's why nobody

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:04.679
<v Speaker 1>ever said anything, because you owned it. If you were off,

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 1>it was mine, it was mine, baby, Nobody, it was

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<v Speaker 1>all mine until my husband was brave enough to say

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<v Speaker 1>to me, Hey, Mama, I love you. I don't want

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>you to be here. He he asked me how much

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I weighed. Well, no one ever said that, And when

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 1>he said it, I knew it was three hundred pounds,

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>but I couldn't say it, so I said two hundred

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:31.719
<v Speaker 1>and sixty six pounds, trying to be real sexy with it.

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 1>He said, that's too much, and I want you for

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<v Speaker 1>a lifetime. That was the changing point in my life

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 1>because no one had ever spoken to me like that.

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 1>And how did you lose the weight? Was it eating better, exercising,

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to eat things that I can pronounce. If I

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>can't pronounce it, I try not to eat it. No,

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't always win because them damn wings at Virgiles.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you something. I don't know what they're

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 1>putting on them wings, baby, but they are delicious. But

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 1>as Sydney said to me, because when I first got

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 1>into it, I wanted to happen right away. I wanted

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>to quick. And after three weeks, I'm looking in the mirror, baby,

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:09.199
<v Speaker 1>and I'm naked. I said, Daddy, do you see a difference?

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>He said, No, that wasn't what I was looking for.

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:15.400
<v Speaker 1>But what I understood was the moment he said yes,

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 1>I knew that he really saw something different. So you know,

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>when I say to the sisters, save your life, I'm

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>not saying get a surgery. I'm not saying starve yourself.

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 1>All I'm saying is save your life and be the

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>healthiest that you can be. You have you used to

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 1>do radio? Do you miss radio because you can get

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 1>on the microphone every day and clear of any misconceptions.

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I miss it. I miss I miss my family. I

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>miss you know, I miss my family. And I enjoy this,

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, because being behind this microphone, and I must say,

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you look really nice. Because I've done radio with some

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.479
<v Speaker 1>sisters and I'm like, listen, if they could see you,

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:55.679
<v Speaker 1>if they could see you, baby, they would they wouldn't

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>want to listen to you anymore. Because did you even

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>comb your hair? So? Yes? Because vote TV? So you

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>know that's like that. It don't be like this at home. Yeah,

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 1>but I enjoy it. I've always enjoyed it absolutely. But

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>we appreciate you joining us, right yeah, man, I mean

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>you know what it was. You know, people they were saying,

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>you're a difficult but I got told him, I've seen

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 1>you before and you gave me one of the someone

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>said to you, I was just tell me who them

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:34.679
<v Speaker 1>Vade like Bernie Max, say who is they? Because what

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>happens is it goes back to the playground, and I've

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>always been in a little girl in the playground, Monique.

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:41.959
<v Speaker 1>Somebody said, if you ain't gonna tell me who said it,

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<v Speaker 1>then don't even bring it to me, because what it

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>says is you're not courageous enough to say. What I'm

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 1>not gonna do is is he says. She say, I'm

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna be your friend, and I'm gonna say, listen, someone

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>who this is their name? They said it? So maybe

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>those two people can get together and clear it up.

0:28:57.920 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>So if you're not gonna say who said it, then

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>don't do it because we've grown absolutely I said that

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>they're not okay. You've been get some more movies as

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>well after Blackbirds. That's something that you're like, let me

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>get some more opportunities if it makes sense. If it

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 1>makes sense, yes, would you paid me one of the

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>highest companies one time because I let you and your

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>your home girl go out to the the elevator first and

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>you said, thank your mama and your grandma for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So when everybody, when people saying to me and said

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>you was difficult, I was like, well she was nice

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>to me. When I matter. You remember that you ain't

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>doing me. I wouldn't nobody, don't, no, no, no, I'm

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 1>saying you remember that, Yeah, right, so do I. And

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 1>when you say I'm a nobody, you're everybody to me.

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>You're somebody to me because you're saying go. His sisters say,

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't care about you. I don't care about nothing.

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 1>You do what that set was your mama and your

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>grandmama and your daddy. There were some folks to say,

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 1>when you see some mother's sisters, you make sure you

0:29:55.520 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>protect them enough to let them step on. I appreciated that. Absolutely.

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 1>We gotta bring Lee Daniels only ask him about black Boss,

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>black Boy. You know what this is trash. This is

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>trash New York. That's why I love him. Trash ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>Monique is the breakfast club Gamdi